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S3 E26: Trust The Process Still??? · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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Fifteen the Crazy you can see you breath out in the Lake Effect, breaking
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tables like Guto would tree, Where's would you have to be? And to
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Ron Elvis in the lay Pancho, the members that you need to know I
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put you out in now your family, Where's would you have to be?
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Where else would you have be? Welcome into the Nickel City Crew. I
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am your host, Rob Crippen. Please like us on Facebook and follow us
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Yard. We're so glad that you're joining us for some of your Buffalo Bills
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and NFL content again today, and as always, these are my bills thoughts
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set out loud. It's about so ridiculous. Three was sick this show.
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I can let me Where's would you want to be? All right, let's
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get straight to it. I am, I'm I'm excited for tonight's episode for
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different reasons. You know, it's funny because this is actually the first time
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since our sent for the Buffalo Bills, this current iteration of them, and
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since they're a sent where they've been just one of the top offenses in the
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league, they've been one of the top teams. Always talk about that that
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term super Bowl contender. It actually really did fit on this team ever since
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we did kind of make our sent up in the league. And this is
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the first time that I really don't know if we can win a super Bowl
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the way that we are currently constructed. It's a sobering feeling. It's something
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that I don't like to admit, but after Buffalo's really really disappointing twenty four
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to twenty two lost at home Monday Night Football recently this week, it's just
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really where I am. So help me unpack it tonight with me to do
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that. As always my co host riding Shotgun Adam dump Truck Repsick check him
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out on Instagram at Adam Upsick ru Pete c z y k DT. I
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called you pre show. I mean, this is this is not the type
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of conversation I thought that we would be having ten games into the season when
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it started. I'll be honest with you, and it's it's sobering. Like
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I said, to be honest, a lot lots transpired over these last couple
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of days. Oh what's up nic City? What's up? Rob? Gonna
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be back again as always, you know, even if we're h and ten
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right now, it's yeah, it's gonna get on. This has been a
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now part of my life, a part of your life. This is the
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one you know, good thing about the Bills that that is kicking around right
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now is Nickel City crew. So I appreciate it. Let's live on those
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range and you know, and go from there. But yeah, five and
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five. I said it last week, tough to have a must win game
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before you put the Thanksgiving turkey in, And now the must win game is
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a loss, and it's basically turning into the rest of the season being a
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must win you know season as we finish out, so not ideal, not
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perfect, A lot of shake up this week, and you know, I
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think we'll get into it, but can only help this team. So so
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so let's ride the troll, let's face it. And I text you earlier
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in the day, I said, let's you know, half joking, you
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know, yeah I did want to. I did, you know, let's
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let's get this over with and get it done. So let's do it.
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Yeah, I mean I I understood that sentiment. I laughed back at you.
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It's it's kind of a Macob feeling, you know, where you're just
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kind of looking at the team and and wondering if we can really pull it
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out. And now, like you said, you know, we talked about
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it right here last week that we needed these next two wins and then get
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yourself back to seven and four and then kind of take a look up and
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see what the rest of the AC was looking like. And the obviously dropped
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their opportunity to do that Monday night football. You know, I know that
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the big news is obviously door see and we'll get to that, but I
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think, you know, we would be remiss DT to not talk about that
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game, because that was really a I heard WGR talking about you know,
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Jerry White said it was a drought loss, and like that really was a
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busy drought loss for the Bills. And it was crazy because it reminded me
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of the Minnesota game last year, not in particular game script, but just
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like I could not believe what I was watching. I could not believe that
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we had lost the game, and it was a situation where I just they
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didn't deserve to win the game DT, and I and I hate saying that
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about my team, and I you know, I don't even use the word
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hate, but I mean, I can't stand that I feel like that.
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But like, I really don't believe that they deserve to win that game.
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They proved it from the very beginning. I know that James could fumble the
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ball to start the game, but it was just weird even the fact that
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we you know, received the kick and and kind of changing up stripes and
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then you know, they're wondering if that was because of the you know,
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players only meeting and all this other cool weird stuff going on, and just
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all this conjecture because there were just so many litneum mistakes that were made DT
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that kind of just put this team in a situation where they didn't look like
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they wanted this game. I mean, Denver was doing everything that they could
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to make sure that the Bills won that game, and we literally gave it
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back to him all the way up until you know, the last play of
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the game literally where you know, you've got twelve men on the field,
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and like, it's just it's mind boggling that the game even went like that.
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It's mind boggling that, you know, the zero blitz and you're giving
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Russell Wilson another opportunity to just chuck it up there and like just so much,
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just so much dumb shit. I mean, gave Davis you got the
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ball going right through his hands, Like that's what I need for you.
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I needed to make that catch. It's not really cold outside, there's no
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real reason why you're supposed to drop that ball, and like it just it
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seemed like everything was was was really coming to head on the office side of
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the football, and it just had special teams obviously, and it just made
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it for a really shitty night. It really did well really all season,
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especially over the last couple of weeks. You know, I've had a point
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of the kind of the shameless optimism of yeah, we're you know, we're
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making mistakes, we're losing games, but you know we're doing it to ourselves,
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like we're not getting we're not just getting beat. We're beating ourselves.
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Right. But but that's turned into you know, one game, two games
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a month, two months, you know, and now five and five,
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and you know, beating ourselves and not getting beat, breaking it down,
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you're getting doubled up in time of possession, you're getting you know, doubled
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up and plays ran. You're getting you know, all these statistics that you
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look at that you know, win a turnover margins, win and lose games,
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you're getting absolutely destroyed. So yes, it's respectful, and there's games
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we have a chance to win. And you know every game we've lost this
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year, I think we've had a chance to win. But you know,
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on those stats you're looking at getting doubled up in time of possession, double
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plays ran against you, and you know, and that's not the formula obviously
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in any situation. You know, we're we're in the sales world, right
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Rob you start, you want to the biggest two things in a in a
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in a to complete a sale field good about it is the intro and the
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conclusion, right you want to make that first impression, and then you want
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to close the sale. And when you start off fumbling on the first play
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and blowing the game on the last, you know, you literally couldn't have
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done worse in both in the beginning and the end of that game. So
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it wasn't deserving to win. The Broncos didn't even want to win that game.
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It seemed like it you know, I want to know, looking I'm
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actually I don't want to know. But they ran up the goddamn middle,
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and you know, and just stayed on the field and stayed on the field,
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and okay, credit to the deep bend, don't break, but couldn't
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get off the field. Couldn't get off the field. And there's time and
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possessions, and the offense gets on and is sputtering and can't get a rhythm
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because they don't even have plays to run. And it just was horrible in
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all aspects. When you needed the touchdown, they came down and got one.
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But until that happened like this all year, this team just doesn't until
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you actually need it, it's and then it's too late, and and I
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don't know how to get get out of that and get rolling. Maybe this
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is a spark in a new direction. But you know, the optimism I've
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been having are you know, we're we're in these games, are meeting ourselves
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for getting doubled up in time of possession. We fumble on the first play
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and we have twelve men on the last play. It's just not going to
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be successful. You know, culture process, anything you want to say is
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not going in the right direction with any of that Yeah, it's funny because
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you know, the way that you look at the game and you watch it,
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you consume it. You know, everybody you know outside of the defense,
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you know, and I know McDermott's you know, press conference, you
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know, rubbed some people the wrong way, and it rubbed me the wrong
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way too as well, because and we'll get to that a little bit later,
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but you know, with him is kind of assigning blame. But you
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know, you can't say that the defense didn't show up. You can't say
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that the defense didn't do their job, you know, and they're playing depleted.
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We've already talked about that. We've touched on all those different types of
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things. So I don't think that this is a situation where you know,
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it's it's offense verse defense. But I do think that it's all three phases
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and that complimentary football that he loves to speak about McDermott and loves to preach
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about. I think that some of it failed them in each and every phase
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on on Monday night, And I think that there was a situation where I
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don't give a fuck, you know, I don't I don't care about the
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percentages of how much blame the offense deserves, and how much blame the defense
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deserves, and how much blame the special teams deserves. I care about the
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fact that one of your monikers and one of the biggest things that you talk
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about and that you preach is this complimentary football, you know, bullshit and
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and and you preach it and you live on it. And and maybe there's
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a chance that you were reaching over to the office inside of football to get
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it and and for to all kind of crumble down on Monday night, you
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know, with everybody kind of hand of it, having a hand in it
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was kind of truly ironic for me all the way up until, like I
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said, the postgame press conference, which we'll talk about. But you know,
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it's interesting because d T you know, the stats are crazy. McDermott.
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You know, he does a lot of his stuff, and you know,
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right off the bat, you know, he makes James Cooks sit and
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he mad and he and he sends a message and you know, and it's
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funny because you know, we we hear it all the time, you know,
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w g R or even if you're in a text group with your Buffalo
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Bills fans, Josh, Josh is not going to get benched for picks.
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Josh doesn't get benched for fumbles. Josh doesn't get reprimanded or anything like that,
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and that would be insane. So to me, when McDermott does stuff
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like that and he makes decisions executive decisions as the leader of the team to
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bench a guy for a mistake, I just always think it rings hollow because
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of the fact that there's other guys that are making mistakes. You're not benching
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Gabe Davis after that drop, and like, I just don't think that there's
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an equal amount of accountability, to be quite honest, And because of that,
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I think that there could be a you know, if his are in
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the locker room, I think that there could be some type of problems in
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the locker room in the future if they don't get this thing back on track,
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because the way that it's trending now is going to be a disappointing season
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where we just missed the playoffs and maybe we finished in the eighth seed of
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the nine seed, and people are going to want accountability at the end of
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the year. You harken back to thirteen seconds and when he didn't want to
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tell us shit on that podium and he wasn't going to tell us anything.
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And then all of a sudden, you know, magically, the special Teams
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coordinator takes another job in Jacksonville. But that's not going to cut it with
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this team DT this time around. And I just think that some of the
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decisions he makes again, you know, I know it confirms my bias,
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but I just sometimes feel like he is he just doesn't get it, and
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he just doesn't really see the big picture. And because of that, I'm
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really worried, because you know, he's still the leader of this team.
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It seems, like you said earlier, kind of covering tracks and reaching for
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blame and you know, the the cheap shots of what you can do.
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And I'm not saying he fired Ken Dorsey for a cheap shot just to you
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know, get the get the heat off his trail or anything. Maybe in
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a way, but you know, Benja, James Cook to you know,
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see, Okay, yeah, we can't turn the ball, run the first
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play a game, like just trying to create narratives and scenarios of the blame
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is here. The blame is here. Like you know, James Cook isn't
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lie. We're five and five right now, you know, because he fumbled
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on the first play of that game. Right there, goes way deeper and
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into it. Excellent game, they gave him the ball. My biggest thing,
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you know, with that is the trust, the process, and the
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militant attitude and teach discipline and you know, all these aspects of you know,
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what made you a playoff team or whatever. And then you know,
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we're consistently getting penalties, knock it off the field on third down, We're
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have twelve men on the field on the final you know, play out the
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game after two timeouts, literally exact same thing as thirteen seconds. Yeah,
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yeah, every every game. And then it's just okay, we're tight,
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we're not. We don't make mistakes. But then all you're doing is making
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mistakes, and you have this kind of dry, conservative vibe of of everything
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else, and then you're still making those mistakes. So it'd be different,
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like because it just when they weren't making mistakes, they were they were winning,
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and they were you know, the offense looked good and so it's a
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lot harder to pick it out. But you've been saying it, you know,
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for the past couple of years, drop, and you know, I'm
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starting to get closer and closer to agreement with you, Like the breadcrumbs are
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there, the trail is there, and like the winning and the high power
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offense kind of masked a lot of you know, this would have been happening
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two years ago, and we would have seen this a long time ago and
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kind of got out of it and got to roll in and and it really
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is you know, I wouldn't call it a conspiracy at this point. It's
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it's a lot more believable than it ever has been of you know, this
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guy has just left breadcrumbs of being you know, overpowering conservative, not being
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open minded. And you know, now it's when the team's really struggling,
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you really need to pull something out. It's we're firing people and it's not
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you know that you can never say anything in a press conference, never say
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any anything of any sort of Yeah, most coaches are like that. Yeah,
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most coaches are like understand coach speak and stuff like that. But you
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know, he seemed like he was assigning some blame on on Monday night,
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and he seemed like he wanted to get away from a few things and get
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away from some narratives where he was letting him know and he let us know,
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you know that let us know that the defense he was damn proud of.
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And I understand that that's his baby. I understand that that's the side
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of the football that he comes from. But you know, I don't know
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how well that rings in the locker room when you know you're you're praising your
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defense and then you know the offense is just kind of taking the swords.
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I understand that you win and lose as a team, but on those situations,
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either say nothing or just make sure that you're keeping at all a coach.
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He really didn't. He was kind of giving away his hand. And
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I mean, this defense has cost the Stames all year, Like we're giving
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them the benefit of the doubt because you know their beat up and literally have
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you know, more significant injuries than any team in the NFL when it comes
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to the defense side of the ball, Like there's some big players out,
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but the gratitude or the gratitude the magnitude all of our injuries at each level
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of the ball when it was literally all pros everywhere are out is huge,
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you know, So there is credit to this defense that kind of just sticking
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in there. But sticking in there hasn't been good enough. You know when
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they they're when first drive of the game, they're the thirty first ranked team
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in the NFL and yards allowed in points allowed, like they're giving up,
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they're giving up the game script. You know right away these teams are able
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to do what they want that first drive of the game. On this defense
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get behind, then this offense hasn't be able to get it back up.
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And then we finally get to a dead lock late in the game and the
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defense, you know, can't hold on or get worn out or whatever the
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case is. But we're not getting off the field on there down, we're
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not getting pressure. Von Miller's completely completely not there. We're so, and
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we're so, and Leonard Floyd started out kind of hot and we haven't heard
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really anything from them. There's okay, pressure up the middle, they're stopping
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the run. Okay, but they always let that big run out every game.
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And then you know they the Patriots go down score touchdown on the final
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play. Taron Johnson gets beat. They run a zero blitz twice in a
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row. Tarren Johnson gets beat. Like the defense as well is it's it's
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easy for us to be like, oh, well, there's a lot of
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injuries, we're playing well if yeah, yeah, they're gradually eventually falling down
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the ranks and losing in crucial times when and when we need them. So
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there there's literally blame everywhere. Obviously, we know about the offense. We've
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been talking about the offense forever. Defense is starting to you know, as
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as I said a month ago, and we're gonna they're gonna start unrebel just
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the nature of the beast. The offenses are too good in this league except
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Stars. And you know, in special teams, we haven't punted in three
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years, and I guess we never practiced it because our punters sucks. Our
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kickoff team, can't. You know, they're getting to the thirty thirty five
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almost every time Denver. Denver had good field position off their returns all night
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long. And you know, we're punting for barely. You know, we're
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never pinning anybody. We're we're losing the field position battle all the way around,
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Like all three phases are getting beat. And just because we have Josh
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Allen in a high power you know, used to have a high power offense
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and have Josh Allen to win games, I feel like the aura overall we're
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still in these games. But all three phases we're getting beat and you know,
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you can't like look away from that, but double up in time of
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possession and double up and plays like about nineteen plays. But it was still
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bad. I mean, it's it's yeah, it's bad. I mean,
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it's not a recipe to win. And and you know, and like I
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said, I think that that's one of the things the reasons that I don't
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like that complimentary football Jarkin is because of the fact that I think that it's
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coach speak and it's almost way to say that, you know, I would
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love to be you know, fifty to fifty and I you know, and
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I understand that that's not necessarily how it's going to be every game. It
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was this game, but I was just looking for a little bit more on
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the offensive side of football. On the defensive side of the football, we
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do give him passes and I have given them some passes in respect to this.
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I think that you can win that game, like you know, on
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Monday night, even with giving up twenty four points. The problem with me
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is that, you know, I think that McDermott is at the head of
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it all and as we transition, you know, it's you know, that's
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the news of the week. And you know you turn on ESPN on on
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Tuesday or today. I know we record these on Wednesdays, but you know
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we're there, like the biggest topic on any NFL show. We're the number
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one topic. The last two days, they're talking about the firing again.
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Unless you've been under a rock, you know, the Bills did go ahead
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and let Ken Dorshould go with his duties as offensive coordinator. They have named
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in house Joe Brady, who was the quarterback coach for the Bills, as
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interim Oh see, and you know we've been making we've been getting made fun
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of DT, to be quite honest. I mean I heard just Saturday laying
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into us. I heard Marcus Spear talking about Allen and different things in different
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yeah. Yeah, And when you listen to some of the rhetoric on it,
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the problem is that I'm having a tough time, you know, poking
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holes in a lot of their arguments. And I know some of it is
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hyperbolic because it's TV and it's for entertainment purposes, and I get that.
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However, Josh Allen is the one out there throwing those interceptions, and we
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never really called for Ken Dorsey's job or anything like that. Now, we
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were calling for some type of consistency on the offense, and we've been talking
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about that, like I said last week, since last year, we've got
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a whole season calendar now worth of games, almost seventeen games. I think
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last Monday was game eighteen of where this offense just didn't look right. So
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we've been on the trail, we've known that there's been something wrong. I
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wasn't calling for a man's job, because it's very that I would do something
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like that. However, I was calling for some type of change, and
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if he can't get it done, then I definitely advocated some type of change.
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The problem with me and the timing is that the timing makes it seem
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like there's a rat in the house. The timing makes it seem like there's
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a fish. And that's because of the fact that, like, why are
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we firing and Dorsey right after a bad game where you are responsible as the
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head of the as the head of the household, the head of the team,
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you are running things, you're your dad, you're running it, and
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and now all of a sudden you want to blame the kids for problems,
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and it's just like I don't I just don't know if I want. You
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know, you're the war and you're blaming the inmates, and like, listen,
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you get some control over your team, you're running the special teams,
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you're over everything. And because he's got that over arching umbrella, it just
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it just made me start thinking about the past. And we'll get into that.
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But DT speaks to that because I just don't agree with complimentary football and
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I just don't agree with this whole moniker that he is leading, like he
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says that he's leading, and I think that some of the players might be
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picking up on that. Yeah, and well, well I'll ask you this,
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Rob, If if we have eleven men on the field and they missed
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the field goal, we win the game. It's ken Dorsey fired yesterday.
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It's impossible. I mean mad Dogs said it on this Wednesday and that he
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was righting. Yeah, And I was like, yeah, there's no way
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you could fire him. This doesn't make sense. Yeah, you know,
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for for a two time out penalty teen seconds, right, and you know,
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and and and he and he gets fired for that, and Josh Allen
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is going to have you know, the turnovers it's something he it's not new,
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it's not old, it's something that's gonna be here literally the rest of
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his time as a Buffalo Bill quarterback. Gonna have the turnovers. But he
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had the turnovers. He's never had this many, right, you know,
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but he had the turnovers and you know, and mix them in with you
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know, four hundred yards and three touchdowns. So it was a lot easier
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to swallow. Now now he's over. Now it's to two picks, one
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touchdown, two picks, one touchdown, fumble, one touchdown. It's not
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proportional anymore, you know. So there there has to be like the biggest
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the change you know, to come from, has to be with one seven
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of turning that stat around, winning games, getting this offense rolling, and
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so I get you know why you want to maybe a change there. There's
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a lot bigger problems, I think in this organization right now. But you
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know, the biggest thing has to be getting seventeen right. It's got to
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start with that right, Like it's got to be seventeen getting right again,
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and whatever we have to do to get there, like screwed, like you
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said, screw complimentary football, screw the special team, screw the defense.
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We need to get one seven right. That's the nucleus of this team.
21:18
That's the only way we're gonna win a super Bowl is if he's playing at
21:21
elite level. So if Ken Dorsey wasn't able to you know, if to
21:26
do that to rein in and get what Brian Dabel got out of Josh Allen,
21:30
Sean McDermott is proven he's not capable of it. You know, he's
21:34
been through two regimes. If anything, this just proved it even more that
21:38
McDermott isn't capable of doing it. If it was McDermott and Gable in the
21:44
beginning, Dabele leaves Josh kind of goes off the rails. Well, then
21:49
it's a simple answer to the equation. It was Dable like because Dorsey couldn't
21:53
do it, and obviously now McDermott can't do it again. So it's showing
21:59
that nobody in this in this room can can get it right with one seven.
22:03
And that's the skin that's problems I've been looking at right now, is
22:07
you know, like, yes, I'm not gonna we should he should be
22:11
criticized for leading the league and turnovers. He should, like you shouldn't be
22:15
You shouldn't do that, especially in this time of this team, like you
22:18
can get away with turnovers a lot more when you're winning the division and you
22:22
know you're you're hanging forty every week. He should be criticized for that.
22:26
But I think all our focus needs to go into getting one seven playmaker back
22:30
again. And McDermott can't do it, Ken Dorsey couldn't do it, So
22:37
who can you know, Yeah, that's going to be the focus we're about
22:40
to find out because it was it was dismal and offense, I mean one
22:42
hundred and seventy seven yards on offense, I've touchdown two picks. I mean
22:45
he's still you know, he's throwing the same picks on the sideline. He
22:48
loves that honey hole shot and he's not getting it. And I remember,
22:51
you know, it is just funny that he I mean, it's not funny,
22:53
but it's just sad funny that they keep coming underneath, I mean Patriots
22:56
game, coming right underneath and just grabbing that thing. It's nice and he's
23:00
calling calling timeouts to get that ball back aggressively at the end of that half,
23:03
calling timeouts to get that ball back for that Yeah. I mean,
23:07
you know, and I understand that, you know, you've got to show
23:08
confidence, and I understand that, you know, he's got that swag and
23:11
he's got that Brett fire Vinham, but there's got to be some type of
23:14
marriage. And it just again just leads back to my original point from you
23:17
know, forever ago that just like you talked about T. T. Davia
23:21
was able to tap into him some type of way, and there's just no
23:22
way around it for me at this point in time, there's no way around
23:26
the fact and seeing the difference. And one of the things that bothered me,
23:27
you know, was that leading up to the game, you know,
23:30
you know I heard on w g R World there's no evidence that you know,
23:33
Sean McDermott is having his handprints on the office side of the football,
23:36
and I'm just like, are you we kidding? Like he ran Dable out
23:38
of town. They had, they had problems, they had, you know,
23:41
some type of difference of philosophy, and then all of a sudden,
23:45
now everything is not the same, and no one wants to give any type
23:48
of credence to the fact that we might be getting the version of the Bills
23:52
offense in respects of the run game that we that Sean McDermott wanted, you
23:55
know, because I always will contest that he backdoored into Josh. This is
23:57
not the type of football that they were playing with Dabel that he wanted.
24:02
And it's just a little bit it's just a little bit disheartening. Now as
24:04
we transition DT, I've got you know, I put on my investigative hat
24:08
as we begin to kind of try to wrap up a little bit. But
24:11
it was interesting because, you know, the press conference with Sean McDermott made
24:15
me think of the past and I can explains it's you know, I was
24:18
so I was so gut wrenched by thirteen seconds, and then I felt so
24:23
disrespected as a season ticket holder. Now I'll raise my hand member of the
24:27
Mafia Nichols City Crew. I understand that I am not owed anything because I
24:32
have willingly chose to buy season tickets to the Buffalo Bill. So so we
24:36
just paint that of the off the gate that I'm not a dummy. So
24:37
I do understand how it works. However, the fans make the team exist.
24:42
So sometimes the fans need to hear something from the representation of the team
24:47
in order to keep faith in order to keep hope and different things like that.
24:51
After a gut wrenching performance for thirteen seconds, I got nothing, nothing
24:56
at all, and we were just told to take it like it's sometime.
24:59
You know, your mom gives you the meat and she, you know,
25:00
does it taste bad, and she's not telling me anything. It doesn't matter.
25:03
Just take it because because I said so, because I said so,
25:07
and take it. And and it was one of those situations where we were
25:10
forced to accept it. As as Bill's mafia members, we were forced to
25:12
accept it. Nicol said, crewe that listened. Something just happened in front
25:15
of our eyes that I have never even witnessed. Didn't even know we could
25:18
lose a game that fast, and we know nothing. It's all mystery.
25:22
Now Again, we talked about the special Teams coach that was, you know,
25:26
mysteriously not fired but took another job, and we all know how that
25:29
world went and how it was all just kind of kept and swept under the
25:32
rug. However, there were just tea leaves that he was leaving us.
25:36
And I've been talking about McDermott DT and those breadcrumbs that I talked about was
25:40
just that, you know, I could tell that he was getting a little
25:42
bit more squeezing. He understood that that this was a good team obviously,
25:48
you know AFC Championship game. Then you've got the divisional round. You're right
25:49
there knocking on the door. And I felt that he started to get tighter
25:53
even more than he had been before, because all of the actual accusations that
25:57
I have for Shan mc dermott started for thirteen seconds, specifically, because then
26:02
you've got a situation where you tell Leslie Fraser after the next year that he's
26:07
not coming back to make calls anymore. So you've got the divisional round loss
26:11
to Cincinnati. We were all upset about it. But what we're we talking
26:14
about the push and pull and that third and seven and they're all backed up,
26:15
well, who's calling with it? And we always talked about the fact
26:18
that that's thirteen seconds all over again. It doesn't matter whose call it is.
26:22
Make sure that you're making the right call because you're running shit. Make
26:26
sure that you have everybody in line. And I've talked about that and harked
26:29
on that. And then what does he do. He tightens his grip a
26:32
little bit more and says, you know what, Leslie, I'm not gonna
26:34
get blamed for you anymore if that's the truth. And he says, you're
26:37
not calling the defense, I want to call the defense. So what does
26:40
Leslie do? He backs away again, another sweep under the rug, Leslie
26:44
Fraser. They they frame it all nice at one of Bill's drive and they
26:45
make sure that everybody, you know, can accept it in something that a
26:48
form that nobody gets offended. But listen, I'm offended because I knew what
26:52
Leslie Fraser left for. I knew that once I heard that the Mike Florio
26:56
piece was true, that you know, he told me he wasn't calling plays
26:59
anymore. Then I unders like, I'm a grown man and my defense has
27:00
been number one or top three the entire time I've been here. So you're
27:03
gonna blame me for Cincinnati, or you're gonna blame me for you know,
27:07
thirteen seconds, what if the case may be. When we're on the same
27:08
staff. I understood his frustration as a coach, and then this year he
27:14
wants to run the defense and he wants to make sure that he's making the
27:15
calls. And then as soon as everybody goes down on defense, he just
27:18
talks about the injuries, and he talks about how it's hard, and he
27:21
talks about how he wants to just, you know, just commend his defense
27:23
for the effort that they're putting in and different things like that, and I
27:26
get it. Firing Ken Dorsey, to me, was just another example of
27:30
how he is trying to make sure that to the Pagulas on those exit interview
27:36
meetings, that they understand that I can get this back on track. This
27:38
is not my fault. So many different circumstances, and I think that he's
27:42
setting up for his exit interview, not saying that he's punting on the season.
27:47
But you can't blame me for Joe Brady if he doesn't know how to
27:48
do the job. Clearly, Ken Dorsey couldn't do the job. That's why
27:52
I asked you if I could fire him. And now we're sitting here and
27:53
we missed the playoffs, and I'm asking you, you know, Terry,
27:56
I'm asking you, Kim, don't make any decisions about me, because this
28:00
is not me. The process. We still have to trust it. We'll
28:03
be back next year. I'm going to get Josh under control. I'm going
28:07
to figure out and depending on what Joe Brady does the second half of the
28:10
season really determines the fate of the Bills offense for next year going for because
28:14
if he does shitty, then obviously they'll be looking externally for his replacement.
28:18
If he does well, then maybe they'll do the exact same thing they did
28:19
with Ken Dorsey and give him an offer him the job. Which I wasn't
28:22
mad that Ken Dorsey got the job. I was, you know, just
28:25
saying that we'd never done the job before, so I was concerned. And
28:29
I just feel like like McDermott is making sure that every finger at the end
28:33
of it is not pointing on him, like you know, like the game
28:34
of Clue like you talked about, or one of those games with My Kings
28:37
Play, you know what I mean, where they turn out the lights and
28:40
everybody's run around and you got to figure out who done it. I just
28:42
feel like it's one of those situations where he's trying to make sure that his
28:45
set is clean and I'm onto it, man, I just think it's bullshit.
28:48
I'm onto it. Yeah. Yeah, I think we we've been onto
28:52
it right, Yeah, we're probably you know, being the most critical.
29:00
Sean McDermot doesn't go on trial enough, you know, being very you know,
29:04
not calling for his head, but being critical of him and watching watch
29:10
in the past couple of weeks, I'm feeling the vibe kind of shift with
29:12
us, Rob, like it's out there man, like the mafia is is
29:17
starting to feel it, like it's it's not as not as exactly, it's
29:22
not Ash. No, I don't see the support. Yeah, I don't
29:26
see all the support like I did on Twitter, like you know, like
29:27
I used to. I don't see the McDermot was so so in a way,
29:32
like I guess you can't blame the guy for you know, kind of
29:34
feeling like that and being able to sweep things under the rug and get all
29:37
the fingers off of him and keep it moving. And you know, I
29:41
got him out of them, I got him out of the drought. You
29:42
know, I'll be a beloved person in this city forever. And you know,
29:47
not even a losing season. We're just in a five and five stop
29:49
right now in the middle of the year, and and it's hot. It's
29:52
hot, you know, I don't know if it's an actual hot seat for
29:56
him, but the vibe is hot. Like there's a lot of people not
30:00
excited about Sean McDermott and then starting to see you know what we've been kind
30:03
of seeing over the past couple of years, the breadcrumbs, the field,
30:06
the navel and him had beef, Like, no way, they didn't have
30:08
beef. They he really did have beef. And now it's him what did
30:15
what did he have with Ken Dorsey? He fired his ass in the middle
30:18
of the season. You know, there was no there was no goodwill there,
30:21
you know, so it's there. It's self preservation that he's coming a
30:26
little more. And and there's you know, like I said it on the
30:30
show, there's things that you your main premise is discipline, strong militability,
30:37
and we're opening the game of the turnover and and then it with a man
30:41
on the field. Yeah, no, I mean, you're absolutely right.
30:44
You know, there's no where you know, we hadn't even talked about a
30:45
DT. I mean, we go back to the archives, we talked about
30:48
there's nowhere to hide, and now we were specifically talking about, you know,
30:52
the defense and making sure. Yeah, you know, he called out
30:55
Leslie Fraser and you know, and he doubled down, you know, he
30:57
doubled down on himself. What a that? And what did I tell you
31:00
back then? DT, I said, all I can do is respect it,
31:03
I said, but we'll be watching, and everybody is going to be
31:04
watching. And I've just been watching him around this whole situation with Dorsey and
31:08
the firing this week, and I just want to see how he handles it,
31:11
you know, going forward, because of the fact that it's interesting to
31:14
me that, you know, Dorsey is the fall guy, the special teams
31:17
guy wasn't the fall guy, and he definitely wasn't taking any responsibility for the
31:19
Special team's gaff and he definitely didn't take any responsibility for the zero blitz.
31:23
I didn't hear him say anything about the fact that that could have been a
31:26
bad call or anything like that. So I'm just in a situation where I'm
31:29
watching him. I've always been watching him, and now at this point,
31:32
because of this, this, you know, this huge move within the organization,
31:36
he really has either he's either put himself squarely in focus or again he's
31:41
trying to he's trying to duck. He's trying to make sure that he can
31:42
dip and dodge to make sure that no arrow really hits him at the end
31:45
of the year or anything like that. And I know that it would sound
31:48
crazy to fire Sean McDermott, but to some Bill's mafia, some Nicol City
31:52
crew, it's not that it's not that crazy because of the fact that we
31:55
some of us want an offensive coach, some of us want of Ben Johnson,
31:59
some of us want some to give be given an opportunity. And I
32:00
understand that Ken Dorsey didn't work out, but you don't just stop trying like
32:05
you don't just stop, you know, give me an opportunity. So that's
32:07
why, in a sense, the offense was so broken that I'm not I
32:09
don't have a problem with Joe Brady being promoted and Dorsey on the out the
32:14
door. It's just the timing of it, because, as you alluded to
32:16
it, had we made had we not at eleven, you know, twelve
32:19
on the field, then he doesn't get fired this week, and then we'd
32:21
had to go through this another you know, another week, and another week
32:23
and another week. So I want I don't want change for the sake of
32:27
just change, DT, but I do want substances of change, and I
32:30
want it to matter, and I want it to mean something, And I
32:31
don't want you to be in a self preservation mode, because that's how you
32:36
get the Doug Whaley and that's how you get you know, when Nix is
32:38
on the way out of the door, it's like we're drafted a quarterback and
32:40
now you're self preservation and you draft Egypt and you're like, well, that's
32:44
not my guy, Like, let me draft one more guy, you know
32:45
what I mean, Like, that's not my that wasn't my pick. Like,
32:47
it's just anytime a management position gets in a situation where it's self preservation,
32:53
it can be it can be shitty for the employees. And I just
32:57
don't want this guy to lose the locker room because if you lose the locker
33:00
room, you might as well, you know, put up tent right now.
33:02
We might as well just you know, be done with it because of
33:05
the fact that you know, you lose the locker room and that that's pretty
33:07
much it. You need to find yourself into head coach. Well, what
33:10
did Josh say today after packs? He said, this firing is because we
33:15
didn't do our jobs, you know, So so that's a lot of players
33:20
take it. Yeah, the only optimism kind of coming out of this is,
33:23
you know, it sparks the team for accountability purposes like and and it
33:28
sucks that, you know, Ken Dorsey was a sacrificial lamb to do that,
33:31
but you know the offense is way under par way under what you need
33:36
to do. So whatever this is the NFL, you know, like this
33:39
is the winner you die profession. So you know, the only optimism in
33:46
this whole thing is if it sparks some sort of it's it's kind of it's
33:52
real messed up to say you only fired him to spark some to spark some
33:57
fight. You're into this team, you know. But if but if that's
34:00
the if that's what comes out of it, then it's a successful firing in
34:04
my eyes. You know, it's we have to like, it's got to
34:07
give us something. It's got to give us something. If it's the same
34:10
old then it was probably a bad, bad firing and we should have held
34:14
on him for the rest of the season and let the man have his dignity
34:16
and you know, and move on next year. But if it was to
34:21
if it sparks this team and gets us on a run and gets us confident
34:23
again, then it was worth it. Right. But but those are great
34:27
points about kind of getting the blame away from putting more effort into getting the
34:31
blame away from you. You're not putting effort into winning games and making seventeen
34:35
the best you can. And yeah, sooner or later, you know players
34:38
are going to start noticing that and feeling that. And you know, I
34:42
didn't appreciate this, but Stefan Diggs brother, you know, tweeting all that
34:45
stuff like sport out of there and put him in a Raven jersey or whatever
34:49
the case he did. But you know, I didn't appreciate that. But
34:52
the point is he's in the NFL. Yeah, Diggs is in the NFL.
34:54
Like it's not just some dude on the couch like, oh, get
34:58
Digs out of there, like this dude knows like this dude knows right,
35:01
and his brother brother, yeah, he doesn't know that stuff on Biggs wants
35:06
out. I'm not saying, like, you know, it doesn't have to
35:09
mean that. It just means that he knows. It's frustrated. He is
35:13
frustrated, and he's he's saying like, get get him out of this team.
35:16
Like that means there's other players in the NFL and probably in this team,
35:20
in this locker room that they're like, bro, what the fuck you
35:23
know, so it's not just some you know, armchair quarterback like us saying,
35:30
oh we need this is bad offense thinks to tell like these are NFL
35:35
players saying and stuff like this. If it's our team saying stuff like this,
35:38
like you said, then it's a it's big, it's big trouble.
35:40
It's it's unrepaarable at that point. Yeah, no, I mean I think
35:44
that this, you know, if if nothing else for the rest of the
35:47
season, we've got seven games remaining. I think that the rest of the
35:50
regular season will give us an indication on what is going on at one Bill's
35:53
drive and and the biggest thing for me, and it's not a uhaha,
35:58
I told you so because I want my team to win a Super Bowl.
36:00
Said it. I've said it on the record many many times. If Sean
36:01
McDermott took our team to the Promised Land and won Super Bowl, then I'll
36:05
change my damn tune about him, because he would be on the level of
36:07
Marv Levy, you know with me. And it doesn't take four straight super
36:10
Bowls for me. It would just take one, I mean and one.
36:14
I'd be like, you know, that's my coach and nobody would be to
36:15
talk shit about him. So I'm not I'm not telling you that I'm not
36:20
easily dissuaded, and I'm easily persuaded on that on that actual front. However,
36:23
this is going to give us an opportunity at this point in time to
36:27
see if all of those fancy monikers mean shit. And that's being honest,
36:30
and I said that from the very beginning. And when I compare him to
36:34
Dick Jeron more life and less and less you know, playtime than Rex Ryan,
36:37
That's what I meant by that is that that he's got the same type
36:39
of principles, He's got the same type of football philosophy that's bent. That's
36:45
what benching James Cook is. That's some shit that Rex would do. That's
36:47
some shit that you know what I mean, those guys would do back in
36:49
the day, those defensive coaches, defensive mindset of Mike Singletary coaching the forty
36:53
nine ers. I want winners, Like I understand, like doesn't everybody want
36:55
to win? You know what I mean? Like doesn't don't the whole team?
36:58
That's why they're here, given the risking their body, So then why
37:00
would you punish it The man, that's the most explosive player on offense outside
37:04
of the fourteen for one play like it's the first play of the game.
37:07
That should be his saving grace that they didn't score, and you look them
37:08
in the face basket and you tell them, hey, man, you get
37:10
back out there, you hold that damn ball. You're lucky that they didn't
37:13
score on that drive, Like, don't make me look like an asshole.
37:15
And that's how you that's how you handle grown men with giving them opportunities,
37:19
not putting them on the bench like little kids. And I just I just
37:22
don't understand those those types of philosophies. And we're going to get a chance
37:25
to peer into the soul of Sean McDermott the football. So obviously we don't
37:30
know him as a man, but the football soul of of Sean McDermott's going
37:31
to be put on display. What are you about? Do you have the
37:35
same integrity that you've been talking about preaching to your players and growth mindset and
37:38
accountability and all of the different I could just rattle off all of his different
37:43
slogans, and all of the coaches had them, dt, they all had
37:46
them. Rex Ryan had a slogan, and you know, Doug Maroan had
37:50
a slogan, and Chan Gaily had one too, and guess what, Dick
37:52
Jurryan had a slogan too, and they all had something that was used to
37:54
try to galvanize the team trust. The process has worked, It's been great.
37:59
It's been embraced by many members of Bill's mafia. I hadn't you know.
38:01
It's not never been one of you know, my cup of tea,
38:05
but it's always been, you know, it widely accepted that this guy is
38:07
professional and we've always given him that respect. Here DT, I am watching
38:12
him because these next seven games I get to know a little bit more about
38:15
you and really, are you practicing what you're preaching, because I'm gonna be
38:20
watching like a hawk. I don't think I've been calling a fraud since the
38:22
beginning, so for me to back off that would be would be disingenuous.
38:24
I think he's full of shit, and I always thought that he was a
38:28
defensive coach, and I'm not asking Forard to burn to the ground and want
38:30
to go to the playoffs. If it doesn't, I'll be great to see
38:34
what everybody else can see and how he handles it. Well can we kind
38:37
of touched on this earlier, but Homie's running out of shields, you know,
38:40
like Dable was one that was respectful, right, Leslie Fraser was a
38:45
respectful shield to throw out there. Ken Dorsey is halfway there. You know.
38:50
It was a season and a half of kind of pitiful offensive play Like
38:53
okay, we could you could wrap your head around it, right, But
38:57
what's who's the next shield? You know, like where he's completely out of
39:00
shields? Is it one seven? You're gonna start putting one seven out there?
39:04
Saying you know him now, he's not gonna be pulling mini games much
39:08
as he needs to be accountable yet, but I'm saying just you know,
39:10
using him as a shield, Like oh yeah, blame me, Josh.
39:14
No, it can't be Joe Brady because it's not credible. You know,
39:16
if Joe Brady comes in and sucks, it's it's not credible because he's a
39:21
he came in the way through the season. He's not doing it with one
39:23
seven. So is he gonna start doing with the individual players you know,
39:27
like that he's running then Yeah, then you really lose the locker room.
39:30
Yeah, then you really lose the locker room, So it'll be interesting to
39:34
see we all know it, you know, the Bills again. We'll be
39:37
playing on on Sunday. I mean, we just got you got to get
39:39
back to it, like you know, it's crazy. This week has been
39:43
just it's just been seriously depressing to hear how everybody's been talking about our team
39:46
DT And I felt a little bit embarrassed because not because they fired Ken Dorsey,
39:51
because that had been throw floated around in Buffalo and in our circles for
39:54
for weeks on end now, but I just felt embarrassed by the fact that
39:58
they were calling us a dumpsterfire, that they'd be saying that we're disorganized,
40:01
and I thought that that was the hallmark of this so called trust the process
40:06
of McDermott, and he seems like he's grasping for straws. I think that
40:08
other people are noticing, and the most important people that I need to believe
40:13
in him are right there at one Bill's drive the show up to work every
40:15
day. I don't work for this man, I don't need him. I
40:17
don't need to believe in him, but the players sure do. And the
40:20
players definitely need to be galvanized in that locker room. I definitely saw Treyvon
40:23
Diggs on that. It did not make me feel good because you're absolutely right,
40:27
that's his brothers, not just some random Joe Schmoe. So no,
40:30
he did not say that his brother needs is getting out of there, wants
40:32
out of there. But yeah, but he's You don't think that they've had
40:36
their own private conversations. You don't think that they've had their own text messages.
40:38
So I want everybody in the ear of Stefan Diggs telling him how great
40:42
Buffalo is. And that's why we did the mis education episode. I don't
40:45
want him starting to thinking about leaving or anything like that, regardless of contractual
40:49
and if it's possible, and YadA, YadA, YadA. We don't want
40:51
a malcontent on our team. We don't want anybody that's going to disrupt the
40:53
locker room. And he's such a great captain again thirty I mean the three
40:58
targets on Monday night, it was just so the Bills battle the Jets DT
41:01
as we wrap up tonight for twenty five on Sunday right at the Ralph and
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then you know this is it. You know, the the meat and potatoes
41:09
are here. The Bills will travel to play Philly, you know, right
41:14
after Thanksgiving, and then you've got the bye week. Then you've got the
41:15
Chiefs on the road, You've got the Cowboys here, You've got the Chargers
41:19
on the road right before Christmas. You've got the Patriots here and obviously you
41:23
lost to them, so you know that just makes it even more weird.
41:27
And then you've got the Dolphins, who obviously we we have owned them,
41:30
but but they'll be obviously ready to try to win that division by the time
41:32
that game comes up. So you know it's gonna be an interesting stretch.
41:37
Seven games left. D T I am. I'm out of predictions. I'm
41:39
out of things that I think are going to happen. To be honest,
41:43
I do want to believe you that that we'll get some type of jolt from
41:45
Joe Brady, and I do understand a lot of times, you know,
41:47
like the Raiders, you get a jolt when you fire a coach, or
41:51
you get a jolt when you change an OC, but not always. I
41:52
mean, you know, the Panthers changed and OC that didn't make that didn't
41:55
make a difference. Some other teams have changed play callers that hasn't made a
41:59
difference. So you know, I really think that, you know, Josh
42:01
may be right DT it might be mostly on the players. And I don't
42:06
know, you know, if there's all this conjecture about Josh, it does
42:07
he like shotgun and did Kendorsey cater to him too much? And maybe they
42:12
need to put him under center? And Daneloski says he runs play action so
42:15
well and get him under center, And I don't know. I don't work
42:17
there. I just need Joe Brady and the people and the powers that be
42:21
to come up with a solution. I don't care Josh Allen is in shotgun
42:23
a hundred times. I don't care if he's in under center a hundred times.
42:27
I need him. I need him to look good. Like you said,
42:29
I need him to be fixed. Somebody fix our quarterback. Two hundred
42:31
and fifty six million dollar investment. I need, I need him to be
42:36
right. Yeah, I'm bitching before the game and we walking in like to
42:39
I'm thinking of this introducing the whole team bullshit, Let's introduce the offense and
42:45
I want I want them to introduce my three hundred dollars quarterback and run out
42:49
of the tunnel and have him hear what he means to this city. I
42:52
know he knows, but have him feel the mafia, you know, coming
42:55
out of that tunnel and feel what he means. And they did any games
43:00
out and they play like ship and you know, gets fired and you know,
43:07
so so as much as that is that spark, I'm not saying Joe
43:09
Brady's gonna come in and reinvent the wheel, I'm saying the spark from the
43:13
team and the players, like, oh Ship, dudes are getting their heads
43:15
cut off now because of us. So we got to go in and you
43:19
know and end this before our start getting cut you know. So it's it's
43:28
it's I almost feel like grasping its straws are silly to show any sort of
43:34
optimism right now, and that's a horrible place to be, you know what.
43:36
I'm fan as any part, Like they haven't shown us any situation,
43:40
any situation you say like, oh well this could happen, and oh well
43:44
we're really not that bad because we've only lost x Y. It's all just
43:46
it's starting to just sound silly, starting to ring hollow. Yeah, I
43:52
mean, it's it is, you know, I know that the Tailgate report
43:55
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support a great cause with each and every purchase. DT mineus. I just
44:15
I'm really deflated to be on it. I didn't have I was by myself,
44:19
watched the game by myself. I didn't have my kings that night.
44:21
They actually watched it with their mom, and you know, Mondays are not
44:23
my night. So I just stayed alone and I watched the game, and
44:29
I cussed a little bit and cursed a little bit, you know, made
44:31
myself a stake to try to cheer myself up halftime, and then after halftime,
44:36
I still didn't feel better as the game was unfolding. So that was
44:38
really it, man. I did not do much. I was here low
44:40
key by myself, hunkered down, and I'm just glad because my ex wife
44:46
said that my middle sound, Nate, you know, he's my rider,
44:49
died. He you know, had tears in his eyes, cried after.
44:51
And I've already gave him the edict that there's no crying in the regular season.
44:54
So he's just as passionate as his father is. So I can't.
44:58
I can't, I can't help. I raised Bill's maniac as well, so
45:02
I was happy. I was by myself. I was very frustrated. Listened
45:05
to postgame, did not really call the Dorsey firing. Didn't really see that
45:09
coming necessarily. I know that the offense was bad, but again, like
45:13
we talked about earlier in the episode, everybody kind of had a hand in
45:15
that one, and I just didn't see that that was gonna happen. I
45:17
thought special teams coordinator would be fired before he was the next day. So
45:22
that's that's the way I consumed the DT. How how how was Monday Night
45:25
football? Well, how about some night game fatigue? Four and five weeks,
45:34
I'm exhausted. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot all day
45:39
waiting for these games and then you know you're one o'clock. But you know,
45:44
we were, we were out there. You had a decent crew.
45:46
Did a little different this this year. Zach's never coming back on, by
45:51
the way, he was bad. Look, Jack's never coming back on.
45:52
So he could tell him that we get finished record. He's I know,
45:55
he's he's never coming back on. That was that's God straight off. Earlier
46:00
I was walking into I was walking in to get on. He's like,
46:02
oh, you want me to come on for a file up. I said,
46:05
no, you never, you never. You had your time on the
46:07
career, you know, no, no reoccurring, no reoccurring guests. We'll
46:10
see you in eight years when they when they come back to Buffalo. How
46:13
about that. Yeah, we're still doing it exactly exactly. So, had
46:17
a good crew parked a little farther down than usual, down in the motel
46:22
district. The Twin Oak and the Red Carpet in down there, right right
46:25
up Southwestern, you know, past Aba from him. We usually are nice,
46:30
nice tailgate day. It was a little windy right when we got there,
46:34
you know, three four o'clock was a little windy, fell a little
46:36
cool, but got comfortable real quick after. That was a beautiful night,
46:39
you know, forty three I think it was on my watch. No wind,
46:44
very comfortable in the stadium, very good vibe. You know, Broncos
46:47
Broncos Country was out there. There were some Broncos fans as you know,
46:51
as always but you know, still the mafia was was in there and Louder
46:54
Yeah, yeah, it just the you know, the tailgate was decent,
46:59
you know, had just your normal you knowigans. Yeah, and then on
47:07
the tail gate grill and you know, and got it going and and uh,
47:10
you know from the beginning, I not that I wasn't pumped up,
47:13
but I was, you know, business like, this has to be a
47:15
win, this has to be a situation. So like Stevie Johnson giving me
47:20
the the whareoulse would you rather be? Like, I'm I turned to my
47:23
boy next time, I'm like, I don't know if I like, I
47:25
don't know if Seevie's doing it for me tonight, Like I didn't. I
47:30
didn't feel the energy, you know. And then and then you know,
47:32
the team comes out. We turned the ball over in the first play and
47:35
it was like, uh, you got Billy the Buffalo right in front of
47:37
me not even stepping into his goddamn throws. Throw two shirts and the fifth
47:42
row didn't even get him up in the in the ten fifteen bro not even
47:45
stepping in the throws. You know, it was just energy. It was
47:52
the table was set, but but the meal was the meal was shitty,
47:55
so you know, we'll we'll take it. And felt like the the drought
48:00
years or you're going your best time of the day was the tailgate, So
48:04
that's what it was. Late night, took took yesterday off to uh just
48:07
kind of get him back, and it was just a yeah, dark day,
48:12
dark Yeah, no dark day, dark week for us for sure.
48:15
And you know, obviously you know, as you know, as Bills fans,
48:20
we know how it goes, we know how heartbreak goes. So we're
48:22
not gonna, you know, ever bail on our team or anything like that.
48:23
But you know, your expectations can change, and you're you know,
48:28
the way that you're thinking about the team and view with them and some of
48:30
the things that you think that they can attain in a season definitely can change
48:34
and con fluctuate. Mine has for sure. I'm no longer you know,
48:37
accepting, excuse me, expecting a super Bowl or anything like that. I
48:40
would be pleasantly surprised if we make the playoffs. It's going to take a
48:44
miracle. With the AFC record now we got a fifth AFC loss, I
48:46
don't really know how the math really works out on that. You damn near
48:50
are gonna have to run the table. Like you said, d T,
48:51
You're gonna have to be you know, twelve and five or eleven and six
48:54
probably at the best, and and even eleven and sixty better loose to the
48:59
Cowboys. I mean, it could not be an AFC loss because yeah,
49:02
or the Eagles, right, I Forgeteah, I forgot about them. So
49:06
you know, seven games left, two an NSC like you said, D
49:07
two, the rest of the conference, and you better pick up every conference
49:10
win. And like I said, unfortunately, I'm at a point right now
49:14
where I don't I'm not I'm not going to predict anything. I think we
49:16
could lose to the Jets on Sunday. I know that it sounds crazy,
49:20
and I know that, you know, you know, Wilson's been playing horrible
49:22
and the coach refused to pull them, and they're making fun of them in
49:25
Manhattan and everybody's having a good time making fun of Salah. I promise you
49:29
are. Our shit smells worse than their ship right now. They lost their
49:32
Hall of Fame quarterback week one. All the anything that they're doing positively is
49:37
all to the good. They are. They literally started in the red.
49:39
The Bills started out with way different expectations in the in respects to post Roger
49:45
injury and after week one, Yeah, I can't. I can't put anything
49:47
by the Bills. I can't put anything by the Jets. And hopefully that
49:52
we can come out and take Zach Wilson out of the game early, beat
49:53
him up a little bit and maybe you know, you know, get his
49:57
confidence a little bit shaken, and we know it doesn't take much for a
49:59
guy like him, but uh, yeah, I don't, I don't know.
50:01
Hopefully you're right. The joke comes with with Joe bring come back,
50:06
revenge, you know, get it back to week one, whatever whatever you
50:08
want to do to to pump yourself up for this one ever. And yeah,
50:13
I won't do predictions either, but a must you know, the must
50:15
wins are must be six and one. So my my prediction is a must
50:21
record and the must record is six and one's seven seven ain't gonna do it.
50:24
And we just know that mathematically, even though you know, Deshaun Watson's
50:28
out for the year, that might help our chances. With right now we're
50:31
tenth tenth. We got some guys going to do, you know. C
50:37
J. Stroud in the MVP conversation. So it's, yeah, whatever you
50:42
got to do to get up for Sunday, start at one game at a
50:45
time, as cliche and dumb as that sounds and whatever, but just go
50:49
out there four twenty five at home, you know, not as late.
50:52
We did a little more time though Sunday you can ease into your day a
50:54
little bit. But but then, you know, four to twenty five hits,
50:58
let's let's go catch one, you know, get to six and five
51:00
and get into Thanksgiving with with some sort of optimism. Yeah, it would
51:06
be nice, you know it is. It's been a toughest little stretch right
51:08
now. So we'll continue to watch, We'll continue to monitor. I really
51:13
appreciate you taking time out of your night. DT. As always, these
51:15
were my bills thoughts set out live. Please spread love, not hate.
51:19
Hit them with their go bills, DT, please, I mean we we
51:22
are we still were still the mafia, We're still the crew. We're not
51:23
wavering. Football is still the best season. Let's go. We got one
51:30
seven. We're fine.