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Ferrari vs. Freedom: Who Really Owns Your Car? · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  As part of Ferrari Fridays, William Ross from the Exotic Car Marketplace
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  This week we are going to be talking about Ferrari's latest,
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  I don't want to say onslaught.
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  God, how would, I'm trying to think of what the right word would be to say this.
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  Their latest thing to rail against, I guess you could say, and attacking
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  owners and what someone's allowed to do with their car after they buy it.
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  Now they put out a presser in regards to stating, and I'm sure they were
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  kind of doing this, but I don't know how wild they let people get, but
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  in their personalization program.
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  Obviously, those lucky few that are in that little, uh, family or
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  whatever, they get to choose and customize their cars from the factory.
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  Ferrari says they're going to tighten the reins, so to speak, on what someone's
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  going to be allowed to do, can't do, or what they're going to let someone do.
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  Now, obviously, I don't think they're going to let him come out of the factory
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  like in polka dots and stuff like that.
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  But as the YouTube generation and Instagram, TikTok and all that gets
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  bigger and more influential and people needing to stand out from
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  the guy next to him, so to speak.
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  So they're doing stupider, wilder, crazier things with their car.
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  Ferrari's just not going to let you come out of the gate swinging for the fences.
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  with the car from the factory that's customized to the tilt.
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  So they're going to get really stringent and strict in regards to
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  what you're going to be able to do.
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  And it's going to, and this is going to come down to color combinations too.
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  I don't think they're going to let someone go nuts with the color interior choice.
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  Like even if you're doing a solid exterior.
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  Then, you know, your interior colors, they're not going to let someone go
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  with a yellow exterior, red interior with green stripes, you know, something
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  stupid that makes it look like it's a hamburger topping on it, you know, just
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  like with lettuce, tomato, ketchup, mustard, and all that kind of stuff.
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  So they're going to get a little more strict in regards to that.
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  Cause I think they're, you know, looking at obviously resale side of it.
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  And I would say, you know, looking out for that purchaser, because you get more
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  and more individualized with your options and choices, which what you do for your
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  guys from the factory, or even after the fact, I mean, you really narrowed down.
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  You're buying audience when you go to resell that car.
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  I mean, and it's with any car.
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  Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini, any car.
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  Chevy, doesn't matter.
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  You know, if you get stupid with some combos and stuff like that, you're
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  buying pool gets very, very small because now you're talking about
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  someone's personal preference and taste.
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  And let's face it, you know, and to try and remedy some of those
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  things, even though you're working with a great solid base, you're
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  working with a 296 or 488, whatever.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah, you can go back and you can change it.
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  It's one thing to do it on, say, a Chevy Corvette or something like that, where I
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  say it's relatively cheap, so to speak.
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  You know, you got your Ferrari tax, so it's gonna be a lot more expensive to
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  get stuff back to either original or factory or what have you on a Ferrari
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  than it is, say, on a Chevy or a Ford.
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  So, you gotta look that way.
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  Now, of course, people that are buying these things got the checkbooks
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  and the pocketbook, you know, to be able to remedy these things.
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  But surprisingly, and I'm sure a lot of you probably do know this or are aware of
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  this, rich people are very, very cheap.
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  Very, very cheap and stingy.
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  Uh, I don't know, maybe that's the way they, you know, they are rich.
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  They hold onto the money because they just are very, very cheap.
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  I mean, I can tell you horror stories.
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  People trying to save, you know, a hundred bucks or something like that and the guy's
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  worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
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  He wants to save a hundred dollars and cheapen out.
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  This kind of goes back to the shipping situation in regards to someone Trying
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  to go with the cheapest route for someone shipping their million dollar car.
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  Why would you do that?
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  So, and that's a scenario too is they're going to go the cheapest route or they're
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  going to expect it for free or like that.
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  Cause as also rich people kind of anticipate the figure everyone
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  should just give them everything because, Oh, I have all this money.
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  Just give me stuff for free.
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  Their mentality and the way they view the world is so different from
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  actual people that live in the real world compared to where they are.
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  But anyways, and this kind of goes back to my last episode in regards to.
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  These annoying YouTubers and their statements they make about
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  what they do with their cars.
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  Ferrari's getting more and more tricked, I guess, I guess you could
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  say, in regards to setting out cease and desist letters and telling
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  people, Hey, you can't do that.
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  Hey, you're diminishing our brand value because you're doing this to your car.
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  Some of the people that I was referencing in my last episode, it's like, they're
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  just waiting, counting the days till they get the cease and desist.
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  Well, they get it.
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  Who knows?
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  On one side of it, they're worried about their brand and value and all that.
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  Also is another side, when you got someone that's got four or 5 million
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  subscribers and they get, you know, half a million views per video, as soon as
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  it drops, that's pretty good marketing.
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  That's not costing you a penny.
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  So it's kind of like.
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  All right, where do you draw that line?
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  And, you know, I've heard the stories, you know, people fiddle with it and they
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  do certain things to it, but then they remove the badging, and if they don't
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  refer to it as a Ferrari XYZ, whatever you want to call it, then, you know, they
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  kind of will leave you alone, but they get a little prickly when you start fiddling
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  with Something and you throw the Ferrari name in there and they put some other
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  name or something to it But then the car is like absolutely horrendously gaudy
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  and ugly nothing against I like some of the stuff Liberty Walk does Don't get me
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  wrong, you know some of the stuff that their kits and stuff are pretty nice.
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  They're pretty cool.
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  Again though, I'm a purist.
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  I don't like things too obscene or too crazy because some of the things they put
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  out there are just like way over the top.
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  Now I will say what they just did with that Lamborghini Miura is outstanding.
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  That looks gorgeous.
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  Subtle, but what they did was instead of like just doing some bolt
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  on stuff to the fenders and that kind of stuff, they actually made.
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  Whole clamshell the whole thing and whatnot.
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  So it's all one piece.
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  So it all looks like it was almost from the factory Not so much.
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  Okay, you just went down to AutoZone and bought yourself some mud guards and
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  screwed them on with some tap screws You know that kind of scenario sad to say
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  some of this stuff does look like You get some of these guys that you know again
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  trying to get views is I'm gonna buy something off of Timu and get it On there.
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  Obviously you good.
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  Well, no, I mean any kid you can buy anything from anywhere
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  high end low end whatnot It's never always going to fit 100%.
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  You're always going to have to fiddle with it.
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  You're going to have to have body work done to it.
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  It's just plain and simple.
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  It's just, it's the way it is.
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  I mean, unless you build each kit specifically for each car, like you
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  do a 3D scan of it, you got your ferro arm or whatever you're scanning, you
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  scan that specific car, then you get it all made specifically for that car.
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  They're okay, but you still got to do some tweaks to it.
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  But, going back to this fiddling with It's the brand and image and
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  what Ferrari's doing and Porsche is notorious for this as well.
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  I have a little back story on that for a project that I was involved in for a
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  period of time, but the lawyers got ahold of the one person that was involved in
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  this kind of got the whole thing hatched.
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  And you know, they got their panties in a bunch because the way the
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  verbiage were title was like that.
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  Of course, then they got mad at me because I was out there trying to promote it a
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  little bit and I was using exactly what.
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  They had put out there in regards to the website, everything.
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  So they get mad at me.
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  It's like, well, they're going to find out some point in time.
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  So why are you mad at me?
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  You know, I don't get it.
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  But again, it's always those people.
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  They point fingers at everyone else.
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  So looking in the fricking mirror and say, Oh, you know what?
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  I effed up my bad.
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  Oh, well, we got it taken care of.
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  You know, that kind of nonsense.
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  But anyways, back to Ferrari.
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  You're finding it more.
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  I would say with four or five eights are being that's a notorious.
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  But those are the ones you're seeing a lot.
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  That's so much a four, eight, eight.
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  458s, there's a lot of aftermarket kits out there for those cars.
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  Now the one very high profile celebrities that do some obnoxious, really
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  obnoxious things with their car, i.
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  e.
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  there's one Canadian person that got blacklisted by Ferrari because he did some
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  absolutely obnoxious things to his car.
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  So I mean, given blacklist, what's that going to do?
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  Okay.
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  You're not going to be able to buy a new one, but you can
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  buy a used one, obviously.
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  But they went so far and I guess, and it's all how this person is using that
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  vehicle in regards to image and branding and how Ferrari is perceiving it.
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  Yes.
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  They did some.
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  Absolutely obnoxious, totally just horrendous.
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  I mean, this thing looks horrible to the car.
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  So kudos to Friar say, no, you can't do that.
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  You can't have our emblems on there.
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  You can't have any Ferrari branding on that car.
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  And you cannot say anything saying that it is a Ferrari because that is
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  not the Ferrari that left our factory.
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  So you cannot say that.
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  So that's kind of the big thing is like, look, if you're going to do it, you just,
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  you cannot put it out there that this is a Ferrari, or this is my Ferrari.
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  blah, blah, blah.
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  Bieber model.
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  There you go.
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  I said his name, you know, that kind of scenario.
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  So they keep track of that pretty tight.
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  Again, it's gonna be interesting to see how far they're going to go with it.
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  Cause I've been on the side that once I buy something, it's mine.
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  I can do whatever the F I want with it.
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  You can't tell me.
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  As a matter of fact, that's what commerce is.
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  You make something, you sell it, it's mine.
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  I own it.
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  You don't own it anymore.
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  You have no say in this situation.
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  It's interesting, this day and age, I don't know, the lawyers are very
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  good, how things are interpreted from, you know, one country to the next,
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  I don't know, but I think it's rude.
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  Plain and simple.
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  I just think it's wrong.
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  You should be able to do what you want with your car after you buy it and you
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  can't have the manufacturer coming in dictating to you after the fact that oh
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  you can't do this you can't do that it's like hey I just spent half a million
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  dollars on this car from you even after the fact you know it was a 10 year old
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  car I bought it used for 200 grand and you're trying to tell me after the fact
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  that I can't bolt this on I can't do that I mean and everyone knows what brand it
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  is everyone can 200 Plainly see what it is, unless you're doing something crazy,
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  you know, doing a complete new body shell or front clip, rear clip, quarter, rear
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  quarter, you're doing something totally outlandish with this car turned into
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  a four by four or something, you know, jacking up an F40, making it off road,
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  buy it, you know, that kind of stuff.
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  People will know exactly what that car is and what brand it
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  is and how it started life out.
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  I don't see what their point is in trying to come after that fact and doing it.
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  Plus the fact that if you're going after someone that's like a YouTuber, Instagram,
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  whatever, TikToker, they're just going to take that and that's just fodder for their
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  followers and what they can put out there.
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  It's almost like they want to get that cease and desist because you want to talk
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  about content that's good for four or five episodes and talk about stuff in the
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  future because you can always go back and reference it and drop it in their own.
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  If you haven't seen that, go back and watch this video,
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  you know, that kind of stuff.
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  So it's almost like they're daring.
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  Ferrari to send them the cease and desist because they want it and again like these
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  one gentlemen that are doing that Supposed as they like to say the only one in the
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  world They mention it quite often in their videos when they're talking about this car
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  that you know Oh, we haven't got it yet.
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  Why not and they even use the tease that they've gotten a cease and
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  desist supposedly But then it's something completely different you
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  know that clickbait shit doing the bait and switch stuff on you to get
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  you to watch the video and Oh, we got to watch all the way to the end.
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  It's a 40 minute video.
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  Yeah, well you know what you can do?
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  You just fast forward the video.
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  You don't have to sit there and watch the whole damn thing.
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  Because it's basically always the same stuff.
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  There's really nothing ever new in it.
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  You know, you got to wonder about the life of these.
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  Because, you know, look at it as, you know, a show.
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  A sitcom.
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  On, well, I guess it used to be on regular TV, but now wherever.
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  It's got a life to it.
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  Because it runs its course, because you only can repackage and regurgitate
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  something so many times, so many different ways, then you're done.
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  So, unless you get real creative.
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  And again, that's when these YouTubers, they start going nuts
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  and start doing stupid crap.
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  They totally deviate away from what they actually Started the channel
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  out at as an automotive channel look at some of these really big ones
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  I got a lot of followers look at whistling diesel how you start out.
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  Okay, so what are you doing now?
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  What was his latest one someone gave him?
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  I think it was more advertisement for his lawyer or whatever it was But
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  you know they took this guy's Rolls Royce and beat the shit out of it in
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  LA then Vegas And that's all I did was just go out and destroy the car
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  just driving like an asshole I just started watching Cletus McFarlane.
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  I never really got into what he was doing, but after his little NASCAR
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  stuff, running the ARCA race, stuff like that, I started watching it,
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  and you know, he's not a bad dude.
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  Guy's super smart.
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  I'll give him that.
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  I mean, super intelligent guy.
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  He knows what he's doing, but kind of getting away from his Freedom
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  Factory and race stuff like that, because from my understanding,
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  because he was just on Dale Jr.
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  's Dirty Mo Media's podcast, and Job the Bomb, that their thing is to build the
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  shortest, Smallest aircraft boat carrier.
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  I guess you could say that's only gonna be three pontoon boats long So it's
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  like 60 or 70 feet because I guess you know, he's a really good pilot Garrett
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  Mitchell is his real name So I guess Garrett's a super talented pilot and
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  he does stall competitions And though you know stall competition is take
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  these single engine prop planes Cessnas Whatever and you're able to take off in
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  like 50 60 feet and land them short and all this kind of crazy stuff It's very
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  I would say But it's really cool stuff.
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  I mean, it takes a lot of talent to do it, you know, because it's one thing to
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  kind of fiddle around on the ground with a car and stuff like that, you stall
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  whatnot, but when you're up in the air in a plane, you're 500 feet in the air,
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  even a hundred feet in the air, you know, some screws up, you're falling a
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  hundred feet flat straight to the ground.
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  Yeah.
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  You're dead.
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  So again, now you're talking, he's deviating away from what he originally
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  doing the freedom factory, doing the races, doing that kind of stuff.
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  Cause he's got to get the audience.
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  Okay.
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  I just sidetracked way off of what I'm supposed to be talking about
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  again, and Ferrari and branding and image and stuff like that.
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  So it goes back to his.
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  You know, my argument is how can the manufacturer instead, not just
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  Ferrari, how can they come back at you for something, especially
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  if you're like the fourth, fifth, sixth owner of that said car.
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  Cause let's face it, people do not keep these cars for five, six, seven, 10 years.
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  They keep them for a year, six months, get their use out of it, get
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  their peacocking done to go out and look at me, puff out their chest.
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  Oh yeah, I'm so cool.
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  I got to show all their friends off.
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  Then they turn around and they sell it.
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  A, you know, they stretched themselves too thin or B, they
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  got bored of it or who knows.
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  You look at Carfax or history on these cars, a good majority of them have had
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  multiple owners in their short lives.
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  Now, okay, if you got a 10 year old car, three owners, okay, that's not bad.
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  But when you have a five year old car and it's gotten six
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  owners, what's that telling you?
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  You know, and you look at this, it's going to tell you mileage,
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  everything like that on it too.
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  But how can you go after someone who's like, I'm the
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  fifth person to own this car.
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  So it's traded hands four times prior, but you're still coming at
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  me saying, I can't do this with my can't do what I want to the car.
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  I don't understand it.
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  And again, that's, you know, how the law works and everything like that.
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  And I think it boils down to basically is deep pockets.
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  You know, let's face it, who's really going to go back and try and battle
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  Ferrari in the open court system because they got nothing but time and money.
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  Now, okay, if you're a billionaire or whatnot, you're the same position.
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  You got nothing but time or money, but is it really worth it to drop
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  millions and millions of dollars to try and prove your point?
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  Now, ego gets in the way for some of these people.
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  I can see him doing it, but you don't hear about people battling this.
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  Now you do hear some people battling in regards to like that one.
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  It was just with these Jaguar D types.
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  They were building the replicas of, you know, they start out,
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  they built one for themselves.
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  And again, then it blows up because someone sees it.
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  Hey, can you build me one?
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  Dah, dah, dah.
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  And you know, actually built in like 60, 70 of them.
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  All of a sudden Jaguar comes after him saying, you know, it's
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  copyright infringement, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff.
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  They lost at first, but then they came back around and appealed and all that.
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  And so they ended up winning.
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  So then final cost, all this crap, he added up, but you know, Jaguar had to.
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  Pay everything because these people won so it's kind of again, where's that line get
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  drawn and what legal right and recourse does a manufacturer have to go after
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  someone because let's face it, you have these multi billion dollar corporations
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  going after a little mom and pop to do it.
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  You know, 500, 000 a year.
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  I mean, They know that they're just going to basically intimidate them and freak
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  them out and scare them enough away that they're just going, okay, we'll stop.
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  We'll stop.
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  All right.
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  Yeah.
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  Hands up.
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  Okay.
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  I got it.
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  We'll get rid of everything.
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  But to those people with the Jags, I mean, that was a huge financial.
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  Basically, bury them beyond broke in the poor house.
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  They would have basically ended up in the end losing completely.
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  But I think these manufacturers, they don't give a shit.
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  They're like, you know, they'll go in and just look who we are, flex their muscles
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  and say, Raaah, we're gonna scare you!
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  RUN!
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  That kind of scenario.
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  Being a bully.
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  Instead of embracing it, now they said, you have those smaller manufacturers.
• 17:20
  They embrace it.
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  No, do that because it's your own car.
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  See what we can do because think about it.
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  When a car is designed and built, you're getting the vision of who's ever
• 17:30
  employed by that builder, manufacturer, that group, those people, that person,
• 17:35
  whatever, the outside entity, yada, yada.
• 17:37
  You see it all the time, but someone's looking at a car and
• 17:40
  say, well, I would have done this.
• 17:41
  Well, I might've tweaked this.
• 17:42
  I might've taken this line this way.
• 17:43
  You know, everyone's going to view something differently.
• 17:45
  The manufacturer's trying to make a, build a car that I want to say appeals
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  to a large audience instead of just like.
• 17:52
  F you, I don't care.
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  This is what I like.
• 17:54
  And if you don't like it, then don't buy it.
• 17:56
  Well, no, they got to sell vehicles.
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  They're going to stay in business.
• 17:58
  So again, it's going to see how this plays out because if they can get
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  away with it and bullying people and making it stop, everyone else
• 18:07
  is going to fall right in line.
• 18:08
  Look at what has been happening in regards to a lot of these manufacturers
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  coming out with these halo cars and basically making these owners sign.
• 18:16
  Documents stating that you cannot sell this for two years or their legal
• 18:21
  action will be taken against you.
• 18:23
  Now, Ford did this and they lost against John Cena against
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  his Ford GT, the new one.
• 18:29
  You know, he bought it and within two months turned around and sold it.
• 18:32
  He only made half a million dollars on it, but Ford went after him, but Cena won.
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  So what does that kind of tell you?
• 18:39
  What does that say?
• 18:40
  It's only worth what it's written on.
• 18:41
  That's the value of it because, you know, lawyer, you know, it doesn't matter.
• 18:44
  Contracts, what not.
• 18:45
  Contract may be broken.
• 18:46
  If you got a good enough lawyer, they can work your way around it and get
• 18:48
  you out of, you know, everything.
• 18:49
  Again, it all boils down to money.
• 18:51
  That's why it's unfortunate you get some of these people that are innocent
• 18:54
  that end up going to jail because they can't afford proper representation
• 18:57
  and they get screwed and then they're in jail and it takes 30 years.
• 19:02
  for them to finally get acquitted and then, you know, then they don't
• 19:05
  get any money or it gets capped.
• 19:06
  I mean, that kind of stupid shit.
• 19:07
  But anyway, back to the point is again, my, uh, ADD, OCD, whatever, all that
• 19:12
  stuff makes me go on these sidetracks.
• 19:13
  My brain works out that way.
• 19:15
  And I know some of you understand that, but anyways, back to my final
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  point here, to what point does a manufacturer have the right?
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  To dictate to someone.
• 19:25
  Now I agree when someone comes in, they're building a brand new car and order it
• 19:29
  from the factory, Ferrari and whoever else can say, no, we're not going to do that.
• 19:34
  No, no, no, no.
• 19:35
  That's no, we're not going to put that color combination.
• 19:37
  No, we're no, we can't do that.
• 19:39
  No, no, no, no.
• 19:40
  That's fine, because, hey, they're building what, their control,
• 19:42
  because they still own that car.
• 19:44
  The sale has, the transaction has not been completed.
• 19:47
  After the fact, I buy it, I own it.
• 19:49
  And especially if I'm like the fourth, fifth, sixth owner of said car, how
• 19:53
  can you come at me and tell me what I can and can't do with my car?
• 19:56
  Good taste, bad taste, whatever.
• 19:58
  If I'm going to put pink ponies all over it, polka dot, whatever.
• 20:01
  I, that's my car.
• 20:02
  I can do whatever the F I want with it.
• 20:04
  Like I said, it's going to be interesting to see how far they take this.
• 20:07
  And you know, Ferrari is very uppity and you know, they got
• 20:10
  their nose up in the air so I could see them pushing this real far.
• 20:13
  I mean, they got very deep pockets and yes, they have their own entity
• 20:17
  in the public trade, but you know, they got fiat money behind them.
• 20:19
  So, I mean.
• 20:20
  Trust me, it's a battle that I don't think you want to get into because
• 20:23
  it's a battle you, I don't know.
• 20:24
  Again, it just boils down to how good your lawyers are.
• 20:27
  That's what it is.
• 20:27
  So, but anyways, that's my viewpoint on it.
• 20:30
  Be curious to see what you guys think.
• 20:31
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• 20:35
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• 20:36
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• 20:38
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• 20:39
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• 20:41
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• 20:42
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• 20:44
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• 20:44
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• 20:47
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