Latest / Cuff’s Basement / Hygge
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- 0:57Speaker 2: Talking always like a chaos.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Where that builds the glass. Oh man, all right, welcome
- 1:21Speaker 1: back to cuss basement. How are you doing, Ryan?
- 1:24Speaker 2: Oh?
- 1:25Speaker 1: Sorry, you're on mute? Say that it is good?
- 1:27Speaker 2: How about you?
- 1:28Speaker 1: I'm well? So whose side do you have in the
- 1:32Speaker 1: Trump versus the Pope? Beef? Okay, hello, I said, whose
- 1:41Speaker 1: side do you have.
- 1:42Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you said besides the Trump beef.
- 1:46Speaker 1: No, I said, whose side do you have in the
- 1:48Speaker 1: Pope versus Trump beef?
- 1:51Speaker 2: I have to go with the Pope on that one.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Really. No, Actually, I think it's absolutely hilarious that every
- 1:59Speaker 1: day there's something happens that doesn't like it seems like
- 2:02Speaker 1: it's fake.
- 2:03Speaker 2: I'll be ready with it. I didn't know this happened
- 2:04Speaker 2: until you just told me.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Oh you did not know this? Oh my god.
- 2:08Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:08Speaker 1: The other day I was visiting I was visiting somebody's
- 2:12Speaker 1: office for work, and they had the news on in
- 2:15Speaker 1: the lobby and it was just about Trump beefing with
- 2:17Speaker 1: the Pope and like talking shit about the Pope, which
- 2:19Speaker 1: I loved. And then today, like the daily podcast, the
- 2:23Speaker 1: New York Times Daily, the episode today was called Trump
- 2:26Speaker 1: versus the Pope. You just like because I guess the
- 2:30Speaker 1: because Pete Hegseth said that we should pray in Jesus
- 2:33Speaker 1: christ name that we should win the war in Iran
- 2:36Speaker 1: and defeat them, and then some cardinals or somebody, maybe
- 2:41Speaker 1: the Pope said you shouldn't pray in Jesus's name to
- 2:44Speaker 1: like kill your enemies in war, because that's not really
- 2:47Speaker 1: what Jesus is about. And then like Trump started shitting
- 2:50Speaker 1: on him and taking shots in him publicly. Yeah, it's
- 2:55Speaker 1: it's just what a wacky, wacky time we live in.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Did you see that Trump cat door Dash McDonald's he
- 3:01Speaker 1: pulled to him and Ryan, I did see that.
- 3:05Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, I saw him. He gave the person one
- 3:08Speaker 3: hundred dollars tip. Oh wow, I didn't really.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Buy it because of the door dash t shirt the
- 3:14Speaker 2: person was wearing. That threw me off a little bit.
- 3:16Speaker 1: Well, so I always like like people who are I mean,
- 3:19Speaker 1: I'm I'm very liberal, but people that are like dishonestly
- 3:23Speaker 1: liberal are like just too extremely liberal. Won't even admit
- 3:27Speaker 1: that Trump is intentionally and unint intentionally funny, because you
- 3:32Speaker 1: have to admit he's unintentionally funny. If you don't think
- 3:34Speaker 1: anything he does is unintentionally funny, then I have no
- 3:37Speaker 1: interest in being your friend. But he also is very
- 3:39Speaker 1: intentionally funny at times, like he is funny. And when
- 3:42Speaker 1: he opened so that the DoorDash driver goes and knocks
- 3:45Speaker 1: on the White House back door and then Trump opens
- 3:48Speaker 1: the door and it's like oh hello, and they say,
- 3:50Speaker 1: mister President, we have your McDonald's door dash order and
- 3:52Speaker 1: then Trump goes this doesn't seem staged at all. I
- 3:58Speaker 1: really liked that.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Oh my god, I was gonna say that made sense
- 4:03Speaker 3: because of the T shirt, that something was going on there.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what we're talking about.
- 4:08Speaker 4: Well sorry, go ahead.
- 4:09Speaker 2: Oh good, that's.
- 4:10Speaker 1: What we're talking about today. We're talking about politics. Okay, No,
- 4:16Speaker 1: So Ryan, this is a surprise podcast, my favorite once
- 4:21Speaker 1: where you do not know what the subject matter is,
- 4:25Speaker 1: and this is one. This is one of those things
- 4:27Speaker 1: like we don't have any ideas, we have nothing in
- 4:28Speaker 1: the can. Let's just throw something together and see what happens.
- 4:32Speaker 1: But yeah, throws show at the wall the episode. But
- 4:37Speaker 1: I was reading this book called hold On. It's called
- 4:44Speaker 1: The Danish Way of Parenting. It is by Jessica, Joel Alexander,
- 4:49Speaker 1: and Ibben Dissing sand All what the happiest people in
- 4:53Speaker 1: the world know about raising confident and capable kids. And
- 4:56Speaker 1: it's basically about how like the Danish are always is
- 5:00Speaker 1: consistently one of the highest happiness levels in the world
- 5:03Speaker 1: in some poll that is regularly done, and they have
- 5:07Speaker 1: very happy children. So I was reading this because I
- 5:10Speaker 1: listened to an interview with the author, and I just
- 5:12Speaker 1: thought she was like everything about this was fascinating, And
- 5:16Speaker 1: I opened a chapter where years ago, well maybe not
- 5:22Speaker 1: years ago, maybe like a year ago, Sarah fan of
- 5:25Speaker 1: the pod told me about higi. So we've been talking
- 5:29Speaker 1: about hige for a year, but I actually found out
- 5:32Speaker 1: by reading this book. It says the Danish concept of
- 5:35Speaker 1: hige pronounced hooga, so it's spelled h y g g e.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Hence we thought it was higie, but it's actually huga.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of this term before?
- 5:47Speaker 2: I'm not from that, but that would've been being much
- 5:52Speaker 2: bigger trouble.
- 5:53Speaker 1: What's harga?
- 5:54Speaker 2: That's the holiday from midsommer from.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Oh and we'd be in a lot of trouble. So
- 6:05Speaker 1: heigi or sorry, Hooga literally means to cozy around together,
- 6:11Speaker 1: and there is this So Shannon hates like trivia games
- 6:15Speaker 1: games in general, board games games where you ask people questions,
- 6:20Speaker 1: but this hooga game is a concept about enjoying a
- 6:28Speaker 1: nice and cozy conversation with friends. There are no winners
- 6:31Speaker 1: or losers. The goals to simply make it as hooga
- 6:35Speaker 1: as possible and everyone wins. So basically these questions are
- 6:40Speaker 1: like they're not softball questions, but they're just very cozy,
- 6:43Speaker 1: relaxing questions that are not really controversial for the most part,
- 6:48Speaker 1: or challenging. But it's just ways to start conversation between
- 6:53Speaker 1: a group of people that feel comfortable around each other
- 6:56Speaker 1: and get to know each other better. Okay, so this
- 7:00Speaker 1: is sort of like I said, it would be almost
- 7:02Speaker 1: like a mail bag. I have hooga cards.
- 7:07Speaker 2: What a bag?
- 7:09Speaker 1: A hooga bag? Yeah, there you go. I have hooga cards.
- 7:13Speaker 1: And because sometimes we've talked about you, you've told me
- 7:17Speaker 1: you don't like being on the spot. So I'm going
- 7:20Speaker 1: to read questions from the hooga bag. I will answer
- 7:24Speaker 1: the question, and that will give you time to think,
- 7:26Speaker 1: so you can answer the question after I give my answer.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Is that fair?
- 7:31Speaker 2: Sure?
- 7:32Speaker 5: And I'll give you Did we do these cards on
- 7:37Speaker 5: the five hundredth episode?
- 7:39Speaker 2: One? Am I thinking of different cards?
- 7:44Speaker 1: Oh? You know what we did? We did do these cards?
- 7:46Speaker 1: I think we I think I read a couple of them. Okay,
- 7:49Speaker 1: I think they might be the same cards. But you
- 7:51Speaker 1: know what, whatever, shut up, Ryan, We're gonna edit that out.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Who's we in this scenario? Okay, So not counting your
- 8:10Speaker 1: spouse or your family members, who in your life has
- 8:13Speaker 1: been the kindest to you. So that's an example. This
- 8:16Speaker 1: isn't This is a fascinating question, but it's not gonna
- 8:20Speaker 1: ruffle any feathers or piss anyone off. It's not really
- 8:23Speaker 1: challenging to answer it. So my spouse would not be
- 8:26Speaker 1: even in the consideration, so she doesn't need to be
- 8:28Speaker 1: automatically disqualified. But honestly, I would say Ryan. I would
- 8:33Speaker 1: say Ryan probably has been the kindest to me in
- 8:35Speaker 1: my life. And I don't mean this to kiss his
- 8:38Speaker 1: ass or I don't expect Ryan to say me as
- 8:41Speaker 1: his answer that I'm.
- 8:43Speaker 2: Not gonna scratch out and change it.
- 8:46Speaker 1: I'm not setting I'm not setting you up for that.
- 8:49Speaker 1: I just think Ryan is We've never really gotten in
- 8:52Speaker 1: a fight, you know, Like if Ryan ever dislikes something
- 8:57Speaker 1: I did or said, he would just calmly talk to
- 8:59Speaker 1: me about it. He's very very nice. Jesus Christ, Chucky,
- 9:04Speaker 1: he's a very nice people.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Chuck, you heard fights be came right down. He came
- 9:08Speaker 2: right down exactly.
- 9:09Speaker 1: He would not be on the list either. You're very helpful.
- 9:12Speaker 1: You always offer, like if I needed to move a
- 9:15Speaker 1: really like a grand piano up a staircase, and no
- 9:18Speaker 1: one wants to help me. I feel like Ryan would
- 9:21Speaker 1: be kind enough or a sucker enough to actually come, yeah,
- 9:26Speaker 1: to come over and help me. Like the time Mike
- 9:28Speaker 1: Ma asked you to help him remove a floor and
- 9:30Speaker 1: you like worked an entire day of construction for free.
- 9:35Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:35Speaker 3: So yeah, a great day. Learned a lot that day.
- 9:39Speaker 1: So do you know, not counting your partner or family members,
- 9:43Speaker 1: partner being podcast partner or family members, who in your
- 9:47Speaker 1: life has been the kindest to you.
- 9:49Speaker 3: Been the kindest to me? Oh my god, just sheer frequency. Jesus,
- 10:02Speaker 3: this is really hard. I mentioned I know a lot
- 10:05Speaker 3: of mean people.
- 10:06Speaker 1: That's true. I mean there are a lot of mean
- 10:08Speaker 1: people in this world.
- 10:09Speaker 2: Okay, just out the gate.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Oh boy, this was a mistake.
- 10:24Speaker 2: It probably was.
- 10:25Speaker 3: Yeah, this is really hard.
- 10:28Speaker 1: No one has been kind to you.
- 10:30Speaker 3: A lot of people have, That's what I'm trying to say.
- 10:32Speaker 3: It's like, it's like, who has done like the sheer frequency?
- 10:36Speaker 3: I you know, i'd say Mike really and truly.
- 10:40Speaker 1: Mike Mas, Mike Mack.
- 10:43Speaker 2: I would never accuse Mike Mass of being kind ever.
- 10:46Speaker 4: I know.
- 10:46Speaker 1: I was like shocked by that answer.
- 10:49Speaker 3: No, just because just little things like similar deal. Always
- 10:54Speaker 3: wanted to help out, just like a great caretaker as
- 10:59Speaker 3: a person in general, let alone as a friend. Yeah,
- 11:05Speaker 3: just alously. I live with the guy, so it was
- 11:07Speaker 3: just sheer frequency. M hmm, so just the most But.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Okay, okay, if if you had an extra room in
- 11:18Speaker 1: your home, that was entirely it just magically appeared. You
- 11:21Speaker 1: have an extra room, and you can do whatever you
- 11:24Speaker 1: want with it. It's entirely going to be your decision
- 11:26Speaker 1: and not shared. What would you do with that room?
- 11:30Speaker 3: Definitely the DVD storage room, that's my.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would be like a walk in DVD library.
- 11:38Speaker 2: Yeah, they need to get I need, yeah, need more space.
- 11:42Speaker 1: With this space. Is that your room is running out
- 11:45Speaker 1: of space? Yeah, that's that's uh, that's very fair. Yeah
- 11:51Speaker 1: I think that. And again, some of these answers are
- 11:55Speaker 1: going to make me seem like I'm I chose these
- 11:57Speaker 1: questions to look like a good person, and that's not
- 11:59Speaker 1: at all the game. My room. If I had an
- 12:01Speaker 1: extra room, I.
- 12:02Speaker 2: Did email me the answers to say earlier that is.
- 12:04Speaker 1: What I did. I would give Shannon an office because
- 12:08Speaker 1: she doesn't have an office space in my house. I
- 12:10Speaker 1: have an office because I had a job where I
- 12:13Speaker 1: was entirely working from home, and then she after the fact,
- 12:17Speaker 1: she got a job where she was working from home
- 12:19Speaker 1: all the time, but she doesn't have an office space,
- 12:21Speaker 1: so she like works in the in the bedroom, but
- 12:23Speaker 1: sometimes on the couch, and I just think it kind
- 12:26Speaker 1: of sucks.
- 12:28Speaker 3: I would agree. I think that's what it's like. Part
- 12:31Speaker 3: of the reason I would also like like to do
- 12:33Speaker 3: like a separate DVD room is because like this is
- 12:36Speaker 3: where sleep if I work from home, this is where
- 12:38Speaker 3: my desk is where I am now, and then these
- 12:40Speaker 3: things so there's just no change. I think it's part
- 12:43Speaker 3: of the reason why I like going to the office,
- 12:44Speaker 3: because it's just some change.
- 12:45Speaker 2: From this in somewhere. Okay, I like that, But great answer.
- 12:52Speaker 1: If you could take a week long vacation anywhere in
- 12:54Speaker 1: the world by yourself, where would you go? That's the
- 12:59Speaker 1: top one for me because it's by yourself.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
- 13:03Speaker 1: By myself, like it was with Shannon or with CC
- 13:07Speaker 1: would be a much different answer. Yeah, by myself.
- 13:15Speaker 3: Because I feel like when you go to like other countries,
- 13:19Speaker 3: it's only been once. Someone who knows their way around,
- 13:22Speaker 3: I feel is crucial. So we did meet that guy
- 13:26Speaker 3: who was just here on his own, the guy from
- 13:29Speaker 3: and think he was from California met at that breakfast place.
- 13:33Speaker 2: Well, yeah, came here.
- 13:35Speaker 1: I think that that's true and not like if somebody
- 13:37Speaker 1: dropped you in Ireland, you'd probably be okay. If somebody
- 13:41Speaker 1: dropped you into rural China, then that would be more
- 13:45Speaker 1: of a problem.
- 13:46Speaker 3: I feel at least though, like they would like show
- 13:48Speaker 3: you things to do, like curate the experience.
- 13:52Speaker 2: You wouldn't feel like.
- 13:53Speaker 3: I was dropped in the middle of Ireland, I was like,
- 13:55Speaker 3: how the fuck did I get here? I just wanted
- 13:56Speaker 3: to go home. I didn't really use the trip for Ireland.
- 13:58Speaker 3: Well did I get here?
- 14:10Speaker 1: I would the bunny ranch in Nevada?
- 14:13Speaker 2: Okay? Interesting? All right?
- 14:18Speaker 1: No, not choose that? Were you gonna answer?
- 14:20Speaker 2: For real?
- 14:22Speaker 3: Anywhere Italy? I just always wanted to go there.
- 14:29Speaker 1: There it is awesome. I would love I mean, I
- 14:34Speaker 1: don't think it would be as fun by myself, like
- 14:35Speaker 1: I'm tempted to say Galway. But what would be fun
- 14:39Speaker 1: by myself? You know what I would do is if
- 14:42Speaker 1: it was by myself for a week, I would find
- 14:45Speaker 1: some like really beautiful but completely remote location where there's
- 14:51Speaker 1: I would not see another human being.
- 14:54Speaker 3: Okay, so it's like double down on like the alone.
- 15:01Speaker 3: So yeah, that's like soul experience.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I would, honestly if I could just like do
- 15:05Speaker 1: if we had a magic wand I could do anything,
- 15:08Speaker 1: I would probably go to a place that was safe
- 15:12Speaker 1: but there's no other people and I'd be alone in
- 15:16Speaker 1: a safe environment that I felt comfortable with, and I
- 15:20Speaker 1: would like heavily take loucinogenic drugs like I would take
- 15:25Speaker 1: peyote or acid or something like that. I think that
- 15:28Speaker 1: would be a very interesting experience that I genuinely would
- 15:31Speaker 1: want to do.
- 15:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:33Speaker 3: I think it's like it's it's so much better with
- 15:37Speaker 3: people alone.
- 15:40Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a great call out.
- 15:43Speaker 1: Actually, Bunny Ranch as well. That's what Ryan's thinking.
- 15:47Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you got me get my wheel spinning here. Now, hedonism,
- 15:53Speaker 2: what do you?
- 15:54Speaker 1: What would you hedonism? The Hedonism Resort in Jamaica?
- 15:58Speaker 3: Is that what you're talking about Workaholics when they go
- 16:01Speaker 3: and it's just disgusting.
- 16:02Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that that was even an episode
- 16:04Speaker 1: of Workaholics, Like I knew about the Hedonism Resort. Hedonism
- 16:08Speaker 1: is a nude resort in Jamaica, and I like me
- 16:12Speaker 1: and Colin in college used to read the online reviews
- 16:16Speaker 1: and because we just thought it was hilarious, and some
- 16:18Speaker 1: of them were like overwhelmingly positive, like they loved it.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Food is amazing.
- 16:25Speaker 1: No, but some people would legitimately be like, the food's
- 16:27Speaker 1: not that good, and I'm like, what why are we
- 16:29Speaker 1: even talking about the food?
- 16:34Speaker 2: You knows me off.
- 16:37Speaker 1: It's like that's like going to Taco Bell and saying
- 16:40Speaker 1: like they didn't have molay. It's like, well, we're not,
- 16:43Speaker 1: We're not. That's not what this is. You know what
- 16:45Speaker 1: I mean exactly here for unfortunately, But what what would
- 16:50Speaker 1: you if you were to ask your parents, what would
- 16:53Speaker 1: they likely answer? What was the craziest thing Ryan did
- 16:57Speaker 1: as a child or Tim did as a child? Crazy
- 17:00Speaker 1: thing I did as a child. That would be tough,
- 17:03Speaker 1: I think to answer. I would say, one time, when
- 17:08Speaker 1: I was really really angry at my parents, I punched
- 17:10Speaker 1: a hole in the through the drywall. Oh wow, in
- 17:13Speaker 1: the basement. I punched a hole through the drywall.
- 17:15Speaker 2: Did you hurt your hand?
- 17:17Speaker 1: No? No, because I got lucky, because like if if
- 17:22Speaker 1: I was, because I don't know where the studs are.
- 17:26Speaker 1: But if I punched where a stud was located. I
- 17:28Speaker 1: probably would have broken my hand, but I managed to
- 17:32Speaker 1: punch in between studs and I went through. It probably
- 17:35Speaker 1: wasn't that thick of a sheet of drywall, but I
- 17:38Speaker 1: went through the sheet of drywall in between studs.
- 17:41Speaker 2: Wow. Wow.
- 17:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not I'm not bragging about that. I mean,
- 17:46Speaker 1: it was not a great way to handle your emotions.
- 17:49Speaker 1: But I think that actually may have happened twice. Yeah,
- 17:54Speaker 1: I think once was my my I think once was
- 17:59Speaker 1: Mike Barbo asked me to go to Cape Cod with
- 18:01Speaker 1: his family and my mom said no for no reason,
- 18:04Speaker 1: just like there was no explanation, we had no plans.
- 18:08Speaker 1: She just said, no, you can't go. And I was
- 18:10Speaker 1: so mad. I thought, like I need to punish them.
- 18:13Speaker 1: It's almost like in jail, where you have to let
- 18:17Speaker 1: them let people know, Okay, like you can try to
- 18:20Speaker 1: do this again, but is it gonna be worth it.
- 18:22Speaker 1: That's honestly the way I would look at some of
- 18:25Speaker 1: the things my parents would do that I would think
- 18:26Speaker 1: were so unfair. I would think, Okay, I need to
- 18:29Speaker 1: I need to let them know that doing this in
- 18:34Speaker 1: the future is going to be a mistake. That's what
- 18:38Speaker 1: was my thinking at the time, and then another time
- 18:40Speaker 1: I punched a hole in the drywall was unrelated to
- 18:43Speaker 1: my parents. It was it was a girl lady troubles,
- 18:46Speaker 1: I'll put it that way. Lady troubles caused me to
- 18:49Speaker 1: punch a hole in the drywall and also in my basement.
- 18:53Speaker 1: But yeah, do you do you have any answer? I
- 18:55Speaker 1: was thinking about when you covered your dad's eyes, which
- 18:57Speaker 1: you've told so, yeah, go ahead tell that.
- 19:01Speaker 2: So we were driving on a family vacation.
- 19:04Speaker 3: We were all in the car and I don't know,
- 19:08Speaker 3: I don't know why. I know I was mad at
- 19:11Speaker 3: about something. So my dad was driving and I threw
- 19:15Speaker 3: I said, shut up, you stupid muppet baby, and I
- 19:20Speaker 3: threw a blanket over his head while he was driving.
- 19:24Speaker 1: Well, he was on the highway, right on the highway.
- 19:26Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he got out and he my mom.
- 19:31Speaker 2: Drove, and he made me and him.
- 19:33Speaker 3: Walk along along the highway to wherever we were.
- 19:37Speaker 1: Going, just out of sheer anger and determination.
- 19:41Speaker 2: Just just you need to pay for this. Yeah.
- 19:44Speaker 1: So he was all just like me in this scenario
- 19:47Speaker 1: pretty much.
- 19:48Speaker 2: I can't really think of like.
- 19:52Speaker 3: The little thing, but that was probably the craziest where
- 19:54Speaker 3: it's like, wow, I think about it, not like, wow,
- 19:55Speaker 3: that was pretty dangerous.
- 19:56Speaker 1: That could have been bad, very bad, very bad, very
- 19:59Speaker 1: dangerou to walk along the highway my father one time,
- 20:02Speaker 1: because he's.
- 20:03Speaker 2: Also just spin off and drive off the road and
- 20:05Speaker 2: kill us. All. Yeah, he could have.
- 20:07Speaker 1: Killed your entire family with your with your little muppet
- 20:10Speaker 1: baby prank. My father went through a phase this is
- 20:12Speaker 1: like when he was younger, I mean ten, ten to
- 20:15Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, where he was constantly losing because once
- 20:18Speaker 1: he once he had keyless cars and you don't physically
- 20:23Speaker 1: need keys. He would lose his keys all the time
- 20:25Speaker 1: because as long as the car would start, he would
- 20:28Speaker 1: leave home without the keys. But what he was always
- 20:32Speaker 1: doing is he was always leaving the keys on the
- 20:34Speaker 1: roof of the car. And if you need a physical
- 20:37Speaker 1: key to start the car, that's never gonna happen. But
- 20:39Speaker 1: he would just start the car and drive away. And
- 20:41Speaker 1: then he realized, I think a couple of times he
- 20:45Speaker 1: left his key, his keyless keys, his fob on the roof,
- 20:49Speaker 1: and one time he was walking up and down ninety
- 20:54Speaker 1: five looking on the road, like on the shoulder, looking
- 20:59Speaker 1: in the road to see if he could find his fob,
- 21:02Speaker 1: which he luckily he didn't because he would have run
- 21:05Speaker 1: out into the road to try to grab it on
- 21:07Speaker 1: ninety five. And this is people like, people are like, Oh,
- 21:12Speaker 1: your dad's so great, Why do you get so frustrated
- 21:14Speaker 1: with him? You have no idea what it's like. You
- 21:15Speaker 1: have no idea what it's like to truly explain to
- 21:18Speaker 1: him why it's dangerous to run out into ninety five
- 21:21Speaker 1: to look for your keys. And it's not worth it.
- 21:24Speaker 1: Just pay even if it's five hundred dollars, it's not
- 21:26Speaker 1: worth it. Just replace the keys. And he looks at
- 21:28Speaker 1: you and think and thinks you're so wrong, like you're
- 21:31Speaker 1: not even a remote one percent sliver of regret, like
- 21:36Speaker 1: you know, he just thinks, wow, Tim is so wrongo.
- 21:41Speaker 3: Can't they also like arrest you for doing that? Like
- 21:43Speaker 3: can't you be arrested?
- 21:45Speaker 2: Walked?
- 21:45Speaker 4: Yes?
- 21:45Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, he should have arrested him. I would have
- 21:48Speaker 1: loved that. And eventually he lost his keys like two
- 21:52Speaker 1: or three times, and Jeff Iken worked at the Toyota dealership,
- 21:55Speaker 1: so my dad would try to like not pay for
- 21:58Speaker 1: a key replacement and ask Jeff, I can for keys again?
- 22:01Speaker 1: And I think the second or third time my dad
- 22:04Speaker 1: came in for new keyfob. Jeff had tied a long
- 22:07Speaker 1: ribbon around the keys and put it over my dad's neck.
- 22:13Speaker 1: It was like, Bill, Bill, don't you lose these.
- 22:17Speaker 2: These are tied and go straight home.
- 22:20Speaker 1: Oh man, that's incredible.
- 22:22Speaker 2: Wow.
- 22:24Speaker 1: Uh okay. Another question, speaking of my parents. As you
- 22:27Speaker 1: get older, do you find that you act more and
- 22:28Speaker 1: more like your parents? I would say definitely yes. When
- 22:31Speaker 1: I was younger, because my dad was never home. My
- 22:34Speaker 1: dad would work every single day until like nine o'clock,
- 22:37Speaker 1: and on the weekends my dad was also working all
- 22:40Speaker 1: the time, and he would work like at least one
- 22:43Speaker 1: weekend day. And this is the he said, this is
- 22:46Speaker 1: the meanest thing I've ever said to him, which says
- 22:48Speaker 1: a lot. One time he asked me to go to
- 22:51Speaker 1: dinner or something and I said, like, no, I just
- 22:53Speaker 1: I don't really want to. And he said, you know,
- 22:55Speaker 1: when I'm dead, You're going to regret that. And I said,
- 22:59Speaker 1: and I said, oh, really you were. You worked every
- 23:03Speaker 1: day till nine pm, and then on weekend days. I
- 23:06Speaker 1: remember you working in your office in the basement and
- 23:08Speaker 1: I would come in and say, like, Dad, can we
- 23:10Speaker 1: go out for ice cream or go to the park
- 23:12Speaker 1: and play baseball? And he would you would say no,
- 23:14Speaker 1: sorry to him, I have to work, so don't talk
- 23:16Speaker 1: to me about deathbed regrets and how he didn't spend
- 23:20Speaker 1: enough time together and my dad. When after I finished
- 23:23Speaker 1: saying that to him, he looked like I had just
- 23:25Speaker 1: torn his heart out of his body. But to answer
- 23:29Speaker 1: the questions, so sorry, what real talk? Real talk exactly,
- 23:33Speaker 1: so like, yeah, up, yours buddy. When I was when
- 23:37Speaker 1: I was little, because I was around my mom all
- 23:39Speaker 1: the time and I was never around my dad, I
- 23:41Speaker 1: feel like I was a lot like my mom. And
- 23:43Speaker 1: then once I moved out of the house and I've
- 23:45Speaker 1: gotten older, I feel like I'm less and less like
- 23:48Speaker 1: my mom and more and more like my dad. Like
- 23:50Speaker 1: not not willingly more and more like my dad. But
- 23:54Speaker 1: it's just it sort of happens. And Shannon points it
- 23:57Speaker 1: out all the time. She goes like, okay, Bill, when
- 24:00Speaker 1: I say or do something, yeah, so you know it's anyways,
- 24:08Speaker 1: But do you feel like you're more and more like
- 24:10Speaker 1: your parents?
- 24:12Speaker 2: I think so.
- 24:13Speaker 3: I feel like I definitely adopted more of my stay adopted.
- 24:21Speaker 3: Remember it's just a kid. If we were ever doing anything,
- 24:24Speaker 3: it was even beyond that. My dad was always like
- 24:30Speaker 3: let's just do it so we can be done, meaning
- 24:32Speaker 3: like oh, if like something was wrong with a car
- 24:37Speaker 3: we were using or something like that, it was like, Okay,
- 24:40Speaker 3: look at it, fix it, try and fix it, figure
- 24:43Speaker 3: it out. But we need like it needs to be done,
- 24:45Speaker 3: Like I don't want to have this that's not my
- 24:46Speaker 3: just a ten part project. And like I was always
- 24:52Speaker 3: like I'll start this and i'll finish this in June.
- 24:56Speaker 3: That was always my mentality. And now I feel like
- 24:59Speaker 3: I think a lot of this got sped up with
- 25:00Speaker 3: like during like lockdown, where like you were just finding
- 25:02Speaker 3: things to do that I'm like, if I bought like
- 25:05Speaker 3: a new shelf or a new piece of equipment or
- 25:08Speaker 3: something like that, I am like, the second I get it,
- 25:11Speaker 3: I'm opening it, turning it on, seeing if everything works,
- 25:17Speaker 3: instantly trying it, kicking all the tires possible, which I
- 25:20Speaker 3: would never do before.
- 25:21Speaker 2: It's just very bizarre.
- 25:22Speaker 1: But I think it's funny you say that because I'm
- 25:25Speaker 1: the same way. When I was younger, I was the
- 25:27Speaker 1: ultimate procrastinator. And even when I was working when I
- 25:30Speaker 1: was in my twenties, like somebody would send me an
- 25:31Speaker 1: email and I wouldn't really know what to say, so
- 25:34Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, I'll respond to their email tomorrow,
- 25:36Speaker 1: and then that email would never be responded to ever.
- 25:38Speaker 1: And Shannon now gets mad at me because of the opposite,
- 25:42Speaker 1: Like she says, I'm the least patient person ever. Where
- 25:45Speaker 1: I'll be like, hey, you know, we're sitting around watching TV.
- 25:49Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, we've been talking about hanging that painting
- 25:52Speaker 1: for a week, and I just remember, I'm going to
- 25:54Speaker 1: hang it right now. Where do you want it to go?
- 25:55Speaker 1: And then Shannon's like, I don't know. I don't know
- 25:57Speaker 1: where I wanted to go. I don't feel like figuring
- 25:59Speaker 1: this out right now. I'll tell you another day. And
- 26:01Speaker 1: I'm like, no, we've been We've been doing this for
- 26:05Speaker 1: over for weeks. Let's figure it out right now. Like,
- 26:08Speaker 1: once I get it in my head, it's like, let's
- 26:10Speaker 1: do it or it's never gonna be done. And I
- 26:14Speaker 1: think that that's I did it. For the most part.
- 26:15Speaker 1: That's good, but it's also annoying for other people.
- 26:18Speaker 3: I think so, and I think it's I feel like
- 26:21Speaker 3: I he with him. It was very much for almost everything.
- 26:26Speaker 3: I feel like it's just much more like I bought
- 26:29Speaker 3: like a new blind set for our front doors window,
- 26:34Speaker 3: and I was just like, I want to go like
- 26:38Speaker 3: ordering it was only available online. I was like, nope,
- 26:40Speaker 3: I'm willing to sort of buy this. This project needs
- 26:42Speaker 3: to end today, like I will. I will drive twenty
- 26:46Speaker 3: five miles out of the way to get this thing.
- 26:48Speaker 3: This is when I'm doing it, and it's done today,
- 26:50Speaker 3: And it's like it's just it's also just done. My mentality,
- 26:54Speaker 3: it's like that never existed until the past, like literally
- 26:56Speaker 3: five years.
- 26:57Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you, it was just never the case.
- 27:00Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if I, you know, like maybe once a
- 27:02Speaker 1: year in the summer, I do landscaping in my backyard
- 27:04Speaker 1: and trim the bushes and stuff. And you know, if
- 27:08Speaker 1: I if I could do it from nine to four
- 27:12Speaker 1: and then do the rest of it another time, I
- 27:14Speaker 1: would rather do it nine to nine just to just
- 27:16Speaker 1: get it done that day. Just let's just be oh,
- 27:19Speaker 1: let's not worry about this ever again.
- 27:21Speaker 3: I feel like you kind of become a combination of
- 27:24Speaker 3: them besides your own self.
- 27:26Speaker 2: You kind of become a combination.
- 27:27Speaker 3: And also, I mean, you and I both have two
- 27:29Speaker 3: older siblings, and I feel like that also, in a
- 27:33Speaker 3: weird way, kind of rubs off on you.
- 27:36Speaker 2: Two.
- 27:36Speaker 3: I think sibling behaviors that way.
- 27:39Speaker 1: So I'm gonna just just quick fire gun to your head.
- 27:44Speaker 1: Is Mark your brother? Mark more like your dad or
- 27:46Speaker 1: your mom?
- 27:48Speaker 4: I take that, Sandy.
- 28:00Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess she's more like your mom, just because
- 28:02Speaker 1: I know that your mom and her butted heads and
- 28:05Speaker 1: a lot of time if you're just like somebody you
- 28:07Speaker 1: butt heads with them.
- 28:08Speaker 3: That's a great call out. And definitely now i'd say
- 28:13Speaker 3: my mom definitely. Now, yeah, I would say that, Okay,
- 28:17Speaker 3: And Kelly is combination. I can just tell, like, because
- 28:24Speaker 3: I'm seeing her as she's a parent now, she's seeing
- 28:27Speaker 3: those things come out as she parents her own kids.
- 28:29Speaker 3: I'm sure, yeah, you see it too with Megan and yourself.
- 28:34Speaker 3: It's it's both because I think like it's that, but
- 28:39Speaker 3: also I think Kelly is truly just kind of like
- 28:43Speaker 3: her own thing entirely too with that, which is really funny,
- 28:45Speaker 3: Like her parenting style is just not it's funny.
- 28:49Speaker 2: My parents think her parenting style is.
- 28:51Speaker 3: Different than theirs. But we're all like, the fuck are
- 28:53Speaker 3: you two talking about? It's like shoot, because they're like,
- 28:56Speaker 3: she can't expect them to be adults.
- 28:57Speaker 2: We're like, really, you sure about that. Think Ryan, stop rapping.
- 29:03Speaker 3: No people, people don't wrap other people up in tenfoil,
- 29:07Speaker 3: or you're doing well.
- 29:10Speaker 1: I think that may well. I don't think it's possible
- 29:12Speaker 1: to be zero percent like your parent, of course, but
- 29:16Speaker 1: I would say a man is like one percent of
- 29:18Speaker 1: my mom and ninety nine percent my dad.
- 29:21Speaker 3: Uh.
- 29:21Speaker 1: And then Bridget. I think Bridget's more of a combination.
- 29:24Speaker 1: But if I had a gun to my head, if
- 29:26Speaker 1: I had to choose, like fifty one percent for one
- 29:28Speaker 1: or the other, I would say fifty one percent like
- 29:30Speaker 1: my mom. But I think she's a I think she's
- 29:33Speaker 1: a combination.
- 29:34Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:35Speaker 3: I think also when people when you look more like
- 29:38Speaker 3: an individual parent, I think people then kind of associate
- 29:43Speaker 3: you more to them too in their head.
- 29:44Speaker 2: That kind of thing too.
- 29:47Speaker 1: Okay, This question is sort of related. Is life easier
- 29:50Speaker 1: for children or adults? Now? It depends on the child
- 29:54Speaker 1: and the adult, Like what was your life as a child?
- 29:56Speaker 1: What is the life as an adult? Some people have
- 29:59Speaker 1: really bad luck and one or the other. For me,
- 30:01Speaker 1: without question, my life is easier as an adult than
- 30:05Speaker 1: a child. And my dad and I got in an
- 30:07Speaker 1: argument about this once when I was an adult. He
- 30:10Speaker 1: was like kids have it so easy, And I said,
- 30:11Speaker 1: totally disagree, totally disagree. Why is my life better as
- 30:15Speaker 1: an adult? I know, like I'm struggling. I have lots
- 30:18Speaker 1: of responsibilities. I own a home, I'm paying a mortgage,
- 30:21Speaker 1: I'm paying for daycare. I'm poor because I'm paying for daycare.
- 30:24Speaker 1: My life is still waysier. First of all, I am
- 30:27Speaker 1: I am free, like I'm a free American citizen to
- 30:31Speaker 1: make decisions. And when you're a kid, you're in fucking prison.
- 30:35Speaker 1: Your parents dictate everything you do. You don't get to
- 30:38Speaker 1: do what you want. You know, your siblings. I love
- 30:42Speaker 1: Megan a bridge it now, but I'm living with two
- 30:44Speaker 1: roommates I didn't particularly like as a child. I'm going
- 30:48Speaker 1: to a forty hour a week job that I don't
- 30:50Speaker 1: get paid for, which is school. School is the worst
- 30:54Speaker 1: job on earth and you don't get paid for it.
- 30:57Speaker 1: But then also it's just about perspective. Like when I
- 31:00Speaker 1: was six, or even older than that, when I was eight,
- 31:05Speaker 1: I thought legitimately, like monsters could exist or ghosts could
- 31:10Speaker 1: exist and kill me, like you know, like I would
- 31:14Speaker 1: watch a scary movie and I'd be like, I'm going
- 31:16Speaker 1: to die. There are monsters under my bed I'm going
- 31:18Speaker 1: to die. And I used to get so anxious about
- 31:21Speaker 1: plane crashes. So I think that like, you know, just
- 31:26Speaker 1: becoming an adult and just wisdom, like wisdom and learning
- 31:29Speaker 1: about life and even I think my life is easier
- 31:31Speaker 1: now than it was twenty years ago or ten years
- 31:34Speaker 1: ago because I know so much more about life. I
- 31:36Speaker 1: can judge people so much better, and I know, like, oh,
- 31:40Speaker 1: this person is probably gonna act like this in the
- 31:42Speaker 1: future based on my life experience. You just have so
- 31:44Speaker 1: much more life experience, and you know, if you want to,
- 31:48Speaker 1: you can. I mean it's not good, but you can
- 31:50Speaker 1: just like hang out naked and drink whiskey all night,
- 31:53Speaker 1: like you can't do that.
- 31:54Speaker 4: As a child.
- 31:56Speaker 1: But finally, uh uh, you know. School. Another reason why
- 32:01Speaker 1: school sucks is if I'm not gonna go to my
- 32:04Speaker 1: job and be harassed and called gay or physically assaulted
- 32:09Speaker 1: at my job. When you're a kid and you're going
- 32:12Speaker 1: to your job that you don't get paid for, people
- 32:15Speaker 1: can steal from you. They can shove you into a locker,
- 32:18Speaker 1: they can say you're gay, they can you know, throw
- 32:22Speaker 1: a spitball at you, and they don't get fired, and
- 32:25Speaker 1: you don't go to hr, So I think my life
- 32:29Speaker 1: is way better as an adult. But anyways, what is
- 32:31Speaker 1: your answer, Ryan.
- 32:33Speaker 2: I would say adults as well. I had a blast
- 32:36Speaker 2: as a kid.
- 32:36Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, I can't remember not having not
- 32:40Speaker 3: having fun in a weird way, just because I was
- 32:43Speaker 3: just in my head out of control. I would it's
- 32:50Speaker 3: so funny you say it that way too. Because I
- 32:52Speaker 3: took Root twenty to work this week and I drove
- 32:56Speaker 3: on the road I was taking to get to work,
- 32:58Speaker 3: I drove by Whale End High School and I was like,
- 33:02Speaker 3: could I sit in the classroom for seven hours today
- 33:08Speaker 3: and just taking all this stuff and do homework?
- 33:11Speaker 2: I'm like I could barely.
- 33:13Speaker 3: Then I was thinking of writing a paper in college,
- 33:15Speaker 3: and I was like, I just got like shippers thinking
- 33:17Speaker 3: about it. I was like, I couldn't. I didn't even
- 33:20Speaker 3: think like memorizing stuff. And I was just like, oh
- 33:22Speaker 3: my god, I can barely do this shit Like this
- 33:24Speaker 3: would be awful to do this now, it would be awful, awful, awful.
- 33:30Speaker 1: Well sorry, no, no, go ahead, Ohm.
- 33:32Speaker 3: Saying I think that's the point where like you can
- 33:34Speaker 3: go through those things when you're younger, and then when
- 33:36Speaker 3: you're older, it's like yeah, you gain that experience, like
- 33:38Speaker 3: you wouldn't kind of relive those certain things. I think
- 33:42Speaker 3: it's just kind of the point of the whole spectrum.
- 33:46Speaker 1: And never mind kids now, kids now that are dealing
- 33:49Speaker 1: with like Instagram and you know, cyber bullying and social
- 33:53Speaker 1: media and cell phones and bullshit. Like, I don't envy
- 33:56Speaker 1: kids today at all. I don't think kids have it
- 33:58Speaker 1: easier today, though.
- 34:01Speaker 3: I think every generational group has their definitely has their
- 34:07Speaker 3: hurdles fetching that school life.
- 34:09Speaker 2: I think.
- 34:11Speaker 3: It's just so it's so different every time. But I
- 34:13Speaker 3: feel like, what if, like families talking about it or
- 34:18Speaker 3: whatnot a friend they're talking about. I'm always like, I
- 34:20Speaker 3: get people being frustrated by it, but I'm also like,
- 34:22Speaker 3: I remember my parents being like not understanding why we
- 34:26Speaker 3: did certain things, like certain things acted certain ways.
- 34:29Speaker 2: I'm like, I think that's just what it is. It's
- 34:30Speaker 2: just like products of time in the time.
- 34:33Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, okay, next question, describe a time when
- 34:39Speaker 1: you felt like a terrible person. I can think of
- 34:42Speaker 1: a few. I can think of a few, probably the
- 34:46Speaker 1: worst I've ever felt about myself in my life, because
- 34:48Speaker 1: I do you know, I always talk about a man's
- 34:51Speaker 1: got to have a code. And I always say, doing
- 34:54Speaker 1: the right thing is always harder than doing the wrong thing.
- 34:57Speaker 1: So I feel like I'm more held by my own
- 35:02Speaker 1: code than many of my friends. I know, like I
- 35:04Speaker 1: care more about my own moral compass more than a
- 35:08Speaker 1: lot of my friends. The shittiest I ever felt about
- 35:11Speaker 1: myself was I was in a long term relationship and
- 35:14Speaker 1: I was living in Baltimore, and let's say, let's call her.
- 35:18Speaker 1: I'm looking at the copy of The Great Gatsbie, so
- 35:20Speaker 1: let's call her Zelda for Zelda Fitzgerald. So I was
- 35:23Speaker 1: dating Zelda for five years and I was living in Baltimore,
- 35:27Speaker 1: and things were like falling apart. We were fighting all
- 35:29Speaker 1: the time, we were doing long distance. It was not
- 35:31Speaker 1: going to work out. Not to make excuses, but I
- 35:34Speaker 1: had a coworker that was really, really hot who had
- 35:38Speaker 1: just moved to Baltimore, and we would hang out and
- 35:41Speaker 1: one time we and I thought she was so hot
- 35:43Speaker 1: that she would never be into me, or like this
- 35:46Speaker 1: was never going to happen. And one time I got really,
- 35:49Speaker 1: really really drunk and we made out, and I remember
- 35:53Speaker 1: the next morning was the Aaron Rodgers. It was a Saturday.
- 35:57Speaker 1: The next morning was the Aaron Rodgers Ben roeth was
- 36:00Speaker 1: Burger Super Bowl. I believe that's what it was. And
- 36:03Speaker 1: they said at the time, if Roethlisberger wins, he will
- 36:06Speaker 1: have as many Super Bowls as Tom Brady. And I
- 36:09Speaker 1: remember thinking that the Steelers were going to win because
- 36:12Speaker 1: God was going to punish me for doing that. But
- 36:15Speaker 1: the Packers ended up winning, I believe, or maybe I
- 36:20Speaker 1: don't remember, but this is you know this. I was
- 36:22Speaker 1: much younger, I'm a much different person now. I was
- 36:24Speaker 1: so rattled and felt so horribly guilty that there was
- 36:28Speaker 1: a Polish language, yes, Polish language Catholic church in Baltimore
- 36:33Speaker 1: near me, and I found out when they were giving confession.
- 36:36Speaker 1: And I went to the Polish language church and gave
- 36:39Speaker 1: confession and confessed that I had done that.
- 36:41Speaker 3: To the priest, what was the recompense for that?
- 36:47Speaker 2: Like, what was the reconciliation for that?
- 36:49Speaker 1: He was, honestly way more concerned that I wasn't going
- 36:51Speaker 1: to church every Sunday. He was like, you just got
- 36:53Speaker 1: to go to church every Sunday. That's basically was his message.
- 36:56Speaker 1: And from that day forward, I did, wow, really wow,
- 37:02Speaker 1: what's the time that you felt like a terrible person Ryan.
- 37:08Speaker 3: One time when I was working at Star, there was
- 37:16Speaker 3: a woman had come to the front desk and she
- 37:20Speaker 3: had dropped a hundred dollars bill.
- 37:23Speaker 2: I heard this and I was like, I gotta fucking
- 37:25Speaker 2: find this.
- 37:27Speaker 1: She said, I dropped a hundred dollar bill. She told
- 37:29Speaker 1: you guys that.
- 37:30Speaker 3: She asked like the front desk and she was like,
- 37:34Speaker 3: can you help me, like find it? And they're like, sure,
- 37:37Speaker 3: I scoured the store and found it. I kept it,
- 37:42Speaker 3: and then she could not.
- 37:44Speaker 1: You found it.
- 37:45Speaker 2: Wow, I found it where they kept it? Kept it?
- 37:49Speaker 2: No bad kept it? And then she.
- 37:53Speaker 3: I was bagging and she went to the front desk
- 37:58Speaker 3: because she's like, I couldn't afford to pay the stuff
- 38:00Speaker 3: she was shopping for.
- 38:01Speaker 2: And She'm not kidding you. She cried and went home.
- 38:05Speaker 1: You told so you found it and told her you
- 38:07Speaker 1: couldn't find it. Yeah, and then she cried and went home.
- 38:11Speaker 2: Wow.
- 38:11Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine.
- 38:13Speaker 2: We told her that's fair.
- 38:15Speaker 1: You didn't share it with anybody. You just kept this
- 38:17Speaker 1: to yourself.
- 38:18Speaker 2: Because of myself.
- 38:20Speaker 3: I told Geane about it once at Liberty, which was hilarious.
- 38:26Speaker 2: Is this one?
- 38:26Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure he didn't care?
- 38:28Speaker 2: Oh yeah he was. You're a monster. I your mom.
- 38:30Speaker 2: I knew it. It's like you're a monster.
- 38:32Speaker 4: I knew it.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 38:35Speaker 1: Wow, okay, wow, that's yeah, that's dark. You should have
- 38:37Speaker 1: taken that to your grave. The cops are going to
- 38:39Speaker 1: show up now.
- 38:41Speaker 3: Actually, Sean, I see Sean dialing right now because especially
- 38:44Speaker 3: because it's stark, not because of not because of but no,
- 38:48Speaker 3: I was like, I can say no. I was like,
- 38:51Speaker 3: I think I was like fifteen at the time, but
- 38:53Speaker 3: it was like, yeah, I think about that a lot. Actually,
- 38:55Speaker 3: to be honest with you, as sad as that sounds, uh.
- 38:59Speaker 1: So, oh I this is recording. Okay, No, I haven't
- 39:05Speaker 1: hit record yet. Let me know when you feel comfortable
- 39:08Speaker 1: and I'll start recording. Okay, this is a great question,
- 39:11Speaker 1: in my opinion, what age should a person be. Should
- 39:15Speaker 1: a person be considered one hundred percent responsible for their actions?
- 39:19Speaker 1: I would say, and my answer is never. I don't
- 39:21Speaker 1: think a person is ever one hundred percent responsible for
- 39:23Speaker 1: their actions one hundred percent And I'll explain what I
- 39:26Speaker 1: mean because that might sound crazy. So this has to
- 39:28Speaker 1: do with the concept of free will, and Sam Harris
- 39:32Speaker 1: has talked about this a lot. He doesn't believe that
- 39:34Speaker 1: there's any free will he thinks we're all like zero
- 39:37Speaker 1: percent responsible for our actions. I'm not saying I agree
- 39:40Speaker 1: with that, but like, let's say there's a child that
- 39:45Speaker 1: is horribly, horribly beaten and abused and screamed at by
- 39:50Speaker 1: their parents. That child's gonna be fucked up. They're gonna
- 39:53Speaker 1: be a dickhead, and they go to school. They're in
- 39:56Speaker 1: fourth grade and they're bullying, bullying people and shoving girls
- 39:59Speaker 1: down and like just being an asshole. Okay, so if
- 40:03Speaker 1: they're so, I'm asking you Ryan, not rhetorically. So there's
- 40:06Speaker 1: this kid that was beaten and horribly yelled at it
- 40:08Speaker 1: and whatever, and he's six years old and he's an asshole.
- 40:11Speaker 1: Do you think he, at six years old, is responsible
- 40:13Speaker 1: for his actions?
- 40:16Speaker 2: No?
- 40:16Speaker 3: And I think also just being a child too, I
- 40:18Speaker 3: think you're very it's much different. You're so much more
- 40:20Speaker 3: open for influence and you not have a lot of control.
- 40:24Speaker 1: But let's say that he never finds he's always with
- 40:27Speaker 1: his parents until he's eighteen or older. He never has
- 40:30Speaker 1: another adult role model model or anybody that's trying to
- 40:33Speaker 1: help him, or anybody that's saying he should go to
- 40:35Speaker 1: therapy when he's twelve. Is he responsible for his actions
- 40:40Speaker 1: In my opinion, no, would you agree.
- 40:43Speaker 3: I would agree because I think he has a very
- 40:47Speaker 3: tunneled view of how to handle anything.
- 40:50Speaker 2: Right.
- 40:50Speaker 3: If he's only at home and he only has his education,
- 40:55Speaker 3: his only repercussions for his behavior are the the tunnel
- 41:00Speaker 3: vision he has of it.
- 41:03Speaker 1: Correct. So the question is what day does that change?
- 41:08Speaker 1: Because if you're saying that eventually he is responsible for
- 41:10Speaker 1: his actions, then there must be a day where that changes.
- 41:14Speaker 1: So is it like his eighteenth birthday is the day
- 41:17Speaker 1: that that changes?
- 41:19Speaker 3: I'd say where that grows into though? Is that like many,
- 41:23Speaker 3: like many people adults, when you get older, you start
- 41:27Speaker 3: to I think, just feel like you either want something
- 41:32Speaker 3: more or need something more, or need to change. And
- 41:35Speaker 3: I feel like in that specific circumstance, it's kind of
- 41:40Speaker 3: hard to say, I guess if this person has a
- 41:41Speaker 3: truly tunnel of life. But like, I feel like there's
- 41:44Speaker 3: a lot of people have that upbringings who break themselves
- 41:46Speaker 3: out of it, and it's like hard where they kind
- 41:48Speaker 3: of like you know what I mean, Like they kind
- 41:51Speaker 3: of see a way out or they see like this
- 41:52Speaker 3: is not how it's done. That usually comes through experiencing
- 41:55Speaker 3: other things obviously, right, So.
- 41:57Speaker 2: It's a little bit harder when the kid lives in
- 41:58Speaker 2: a tube.
- 41:59Speaker 1: But you know, and that's that's like I think that
- 42:04Speaker 1: so much of I don't believe in fate, But if
- 42:06Speaker 1: you use the term fate to just describe what happens
- 42:10Speaker 1: to happen to us, there's so much luck involved. Like
- 42:14Speaker 1: I don't believe there's self made men, you know, people
- 42:16Speaker 1: that pull themselves by their up by their bootstraps, like
- 42:19Speaker 1: Elon Musk might be a trillionaire soon. Do you think
- 42:22Speaker 1: luck is involved with that at all? Of course it
- 42:25Speaker 1: is like where he was born, who his parents were,
- 42:28Speaker 1: people he met, people he met by by happenstance in
- 42:31Speaker 1: his life. So you know, I am able to be
- 42:35Speaker 1: self aware and realize I'm acting a certain way or
- 42:38Speaker 1: being an asshole, and because because I have tools that
- 42:41Speaker 1: I learned over time that were taught to me by
- 42:44Speaker 1: either people I happened to meet in life or podcasts
- 42:47Speaker 1: I happened to find, or YouTube videos or books I read.
- 42:51Speaker 1: And somebody that just has never given the tools is
- 42:53Speaker 1: never going to get any better. Now, that's not to
- 42:57Speaker 1: say that we should just let people do whatever, Like
- 43:00Speaker 1: I'm not saying that at all. If somebody is so
- 43:03Speaker 1: like like Saddam Hussein's son was never going to be
- 43:05Speaker 1: a good guy, it's never gonna happen that he would
- 43:09Speaker 1: have turned down. So I think that I don't think
- 43:13Speaker 1: that there's a day where you become responsible for your actions.
- 43:19Speaker 1: But that is to say, you know, and really the
- 43:21Speaker 1: term is one hundred percent. I think because of our
- 43:24Speaker 1: upbringing and our genetics and our brain chemistry and the
- 43:28Speaker 1: luck we've had or did not have in our lives,
- 43:31Speaker 1: I don't think anybody is one hundred percent responsible for
- 43:36Speaker 1: their own actions. What number is it, I don't know.
- 43:38Speaker 1: Maybe it's ninety, but it's definitely not one hundred. But
- 43:41Speaker 1: that that's not to say that if there's a murderer
- 43:44Speaker 1: like Ted Bundy. You know he Ted Bundy, he had
- 43:47Speaker 1: a horrible brain injury when he was a kid. Maybe
- 43:49Speaker 1: that's what made him Ted Bundy. I don't think that
- 43:52Speaker 1: we should just let Ted Bundy go because it's not
- 43:54Speaker 1: his fault. I'm not saying that. I think like, if
- 43:56Speaker 1: somebody took Ted Bundy in an alley and shot him
- 43:58Speaker 1: in the head, I would be fine with that. I
- 44:00Speaker 1: think it would be doing the world a favor. But
- 44:02Speaker 1: at the same time, even though I want a Ted
- 44:04Speaker 1: Bundy removed from society, I think that there may be
- 44:08Speaker 1: factors that were out of his control that made him
- 44:11Speaker 1: who he is.
- 44:12Speaker 2: If that makes sense, I'm sure it does make sense.
- 44:14Speaker 3: It's just the idea of, like, when your actions now
- 44:17Speaker 3: affect others who were like in that in that example
- 44:20Speaker 3: right there. I mean, obviously that's an extreme circumstance, but
- 44:23Speaker 3: we're seeing it more and more with a lot of
- 44:25Speaker 3: the milent activity in the US, right like when are
- 44:28Speaker 3: we holding people responsible?
- 44:30Speaker 2: When can we hold them responsible?
- 44:32Speaker 3: And it's an idea that Okay, well, now your actions,
- 44:36Speaker 3: regardless of their you know, nature versus nurture, cause or circumstances,
- 44:42Speaker 3: have cost someone else. And that's where the whole punished
- 44:46Speaker 3: mask that comes into play, I think too, which we're
- 44:48Speaker 3: probably leaking into something different. We're like, okay, maybe you
- 44:52Speaker 3: like I watched that truly really hard to watch, but
- 44:57Speaker 3: that Hulu series, the three part series about the screen murders,
- 45:02Speaker 3: the two kids who wanted to mimic scream and they
- 45:04Speaker 3: murdered a girl in their class, and like, I think
- 45:06Speaker 3: it was two thousand and six or seven, and they're
- 45:10Speaker 3: both they interview them after and they're both still in prison,
- 45:15Speaker 3: and they both like, I feel like I've changed, Like
- 45:17Speaker 3: I feel like I shouldn't Like one of them is like,
- 45:20Speaker 3: I feel like I really shouldn't be like held here
- 45:22Speaker 3: because I've changed since I was that agent to what
- 45:24Speaker 3: I am now. And there's this kind of argument of
- 45:28Speaker 3: like not giving people who perpetray crimes under the age
- 45:33Speaker 3: of eighteen life without parole. But they made an example
- 45:37Speaker 3: of because it was very premeditated, they recorded themselves doing it,
- 45:40Speaker 3: stuff like that, and now in their thirties, they're like,
- 45:44Speaker 3: I'm a different person, Like we're all different people from
- 45:46Speaker 3: who we are. But the problem is, like your actions
- 45:49Speaker 3: cost someone else. I think that's the interesting thing is
- 45:52Speaker 3: like maybe that comes into the idea we're talking here
- 45:54Speaker 3: about the responsibility aspect of it. We're like, you have
- 45:58Speaker 3: to be held responsible now for your actions.
- 46:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree with that, But I wasn't to
- 46:08Speaker 1: be honest with you. I wasn't paying attention. So if
- 46:10Speaker 1: you if you if you agree with what I said,
- 46:13Speaker 1: then whatever you just said was right. But if you
- 46:15Speaker 1: happen to have disagreed with what I said, then what
- 46:17Speaker 1: you just said was wrong.
- 46:19Speaker 3: Yeah, just and please remember to keep showing the cards
- 46:22Speaker 3: up on the video so I can read my answers.
- 46:25Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, oh I like this one Ryan. This is okay.
- 46:35Speaker 1: What part of your body do you like the best? Now?
- 46:38Speaker 1: I would say for Ryan his calves. But the question
- 46:41Speaker 1: is that you're supposed to self evaluate Ryan, I've talked
- 46:44Speaker 1: about before. I was mesmerized by Ryan has calves that like,
- 46:49Speaker 1: remember that guy on MTV True Life who got calf
- 46:52Speaker 1: and plants?
- 46:53Speaker 2: I do.
- 46:54Speaker 1: Yeah, that guy would fucking murder his family member to
- 46:57Speaker 1: get your calves. Ryan. I'm not even kidding. I'm not
- 46:59Speaker 1: being funny, like you should see Ryan's fucking calves.
- 47:02Speaker 3: Well it's too bad though, because I am on the
- 47:05Speaker 3: episode MTV True Life. I'm a genetically engineered shark, so
- 47:10Speaker 3: I don't have the calves anymore.
- 47:13Speaker 5: As a side effect, and a side effect, the shop's
- 47:16Speaker 5: got bigger calves. But what part of your body do
- 47:19Speaker 5: you like the best? I would say, Now, again, this
- 47:22Speaker 5: is gonna make me sound conceited, but there's most, like
- 47:25Speaker 5: most of my body I hate.
- 47:27Speaker 1: So let's this is. You know, you're supposed to point
- 47:29Speaker 1: out the one part of your body you think is good.
- 47:32Speaker 1: I think that genetically, I was not gifted in it
- 47:34Speaker 1: in any way. Physically, I'm not tall, i'm not lean,
- 47:39Speaker 1: I'm not naturally muscular. But however, the one part of
- 47:45Speaker 1: my body that would always actually like grow and look
- 47:49Speaker 1: good when I tried would be my arms, so specifically,
- 47:52Speaker 1: like my biceps and triceps. When I was lifting weights
- 47:56Speaker 1: all the time, I would not really develop a chest
- 47:58Speaker 1: or develop anything that was like enviable in any way.
- 48:03Speaker 1: But I think I legitimately at times had awesome biceps
- 48:06Speaker 1: and triceps.
- 48:07Speaker 2: Wow.
- 48:10Speaker 3: Wow, I've never I'm in the same mentality boat as.
- 48:15Speaker 2: You are, where I'm like, this thing is this That's
- 48:19Speaker 2: why I call it.
- 48:21Speaker 3: I just I just remember, like I when I threw
- 48:24Speaker 3: my back out and in the hospital, the nurse who
- 48:28Speaker 3: was so nice, they were giving like a pain killer
- 48:31Speaker 3: shot and she's like, okay, I have some bad news.
- 48:34Speaker 3: And she's like, I actually give you like this shot
- 48:36Speaker 3: like in like above like your ass cheek.
- 48:39Speaker 2: I said, I got some bad news for you. You have
- 48:40Speaker 2: to fucking look at this thing. That was my concern.
- 48:43Speaker 3: I was like, I'm sorry, like whatever, but I would
- 48:47Speaker 3: say neck weirdly.
- 48:50Speaker 1: Your neck interesting? What about it?
- 48:52Speaker 3: I always felt that it was very strong, like if
- 48:55Speaker 3: I've been doing like when I was always like, if
- 48:58Speaker 3: you're like moving stuff and whatnot, need use your.
- 49:00Speaker 2: Head to move it.
- 49:01Speaker 3: I'll put it that way where that happens, I just
- 49:06Speaker 3: say that I can't as similar to you, I don't
- 49:09Speaker 3: think about this.
- 49:09Speaker 2: It's way more of a shame aspect. Yeah.
- 49:12Speaker 1: I also I do like my neck, not in the
- 49:15Speaker 1: sense that it looks good. I think my neck is
- 49:17Speaker 1: very fat, but I have like a thick neck. And
- 49:20Speaker 1: being an MMA fan, being an MMA fan, I know
- 49:23Speaker 1: that there are people like Cabbage Carrera or Chris Leebin,
- 49:26Speaker 1: like people who have these really big heads that develop.
- 49:30Speaker 1: Because I have a very large head. I'm seven and
- 49:31Speaker 1: seven eighths hat size. It makes you develop, it makes
- 49:34Speaker 1: you you're seven and seven eighths as.
- 49:36Speaker 2: Well, not the same measure, it's just large head.
- 49:38Speaker 1: Yeah, large head.
- 49:39Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 49:39Speaker 1: It makes you have a muscular neck because your head
- 49:41Speaker 1: is so large. And as a result, it's very hard
- 49:43Speaker 1: to knock those people out because their muscles are so
- 49:46Speaker 1: strong because like the snapback effect of a weak neck
- 49:49Speaker 1: and like rattle you to knock you out. So when
- 49:52Speaker 1: I was in college, I mean the pep always has
- 49:54Speaker 1: said this about me that it would be impossible to
- 49:56Speaker 1: knock me out. I don't actually believe that that's true,
- 49:59Speaker 1: but I'm just saying it would more difficult than maybe
- 50:01Speaker 1: the average person. Somebody, somebody ran at me in college,
- 50:06Speaker 1: ran at me at full speed from like thirty yards away,
- 50:09Speaker 1: and while they were yelling, while they were running, they
- 50:12Speaker 1: cocked back and haymakered me in the back of the
- 50:14Speaker 1: head as hard as they could. And the back of
- 50:17Speaker 1: the head is a really dangerous place to get punched.
- 50:19Speaker 1: It's actually illegal to do it in boxing an mma
- 50:22Speaker 1: because it can cause serious brain damage. Not only did
- 50:25Speaker 1: I not get knocked out, I didn't get knocked off
- 50:28Speaker 1: my feet. And the person who punched me running at
- 50:31Speaker 1: full speed shattered his hand on the back of my head,
- 50:36Speaker 1: shattered it because he went to my He went to
- 50:38Speaker 1: my college, and I found out through other friends that
- 50:41Speaker 1: he had to get surgery to reconstruct his hand, and
- 50:44Speaker 1: for like months he walked around campus with a cast
- 50:48Speaker 1: and a sling that I like, I witnessed it. I
- 50:51Speaker 1: saw him with the cast in his slang.
- 50:52Speaker 3: Damness the toughest kid at stone Hill, did you hear?
- 50:56Speaker 1: I mean, I have the toughest back of my head
- 50:58Speaker 1: of any kid it's own. Hell, they're probably true. I mean,
- 51:00Speaker 1: I'm I wasn't tough, I couldn't fight.
- 51:01Speaker 2: No, I was I would think.
- 51:03Speaker 3: I imagine like suddenly colleges middle school, Holy shit, no
- 51:07Speaker 3: one messes with them.
- 51:08Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, I have Well so wait, hold on, Rod,
- 51:15Speaker 1: I'm gonna pause for a second. All right, Well, we
- 51:20Speaker 1: decided to do two parts for this. That was TBD,
- 51:23Speaker 1: but we're gonna do it. I'm gonna ask this. I'm
- 51:29Speaker 1: gonna switch this question. So the question is what is
- 51:31Speaker 1: something you do differently from most people? But this is
- 51:34Speaker 1: really hard to self determine. So I'm gonna flip it.
- 51:37Speaker 1: I'm gonna flip it, and I'm gonna ask you and myself.
- 51:41Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask myself what what does Ryan do differently
- 51:44Speaker 1: for most people? And then you're gonna be asked what
- 51:47Speaker 1: does Tim do differently for most people?
- 51:49Speaker 2: So?
- 51:50Speaker 3: Okay, can we have for this one question?
- 51:54Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 51:56Speaker 1: Oh, as Shannon turns, Shannon say she always does this,
- 51:59Speaker 1: she takes a ship during the podcast just to fuck me.
- 52:06Speaker 1: I would say, what if Ryan do different than most people?
- 52:08Speaker 1: Ryan is just so calm and kind, and I think
- 52:13Speaker 1: that that's different from almost everyone I know. He just
- 52:17Speaker 1: like doesn't get offended, doesn't get defensive, is calm, very
- 52:26Speaker 1: kind to everyone, respectful. Like when you told me the
- 52:31Speaker 1: story about how you were kind of like a brat
- 52:33Speaker 1: as a kid or did crazy shit like almost kill
- 52:35Speaker 1: your family. I was shocked by that because I couldn't
- 52:37Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine Ryan being that way. So that's how
- 52:40Speaker 1: I would say Ryan is different than most people.
- 52:43Speaker 3: It was beaten out of me by nuns in retail.
- 52:45Speaker 3: That's what I tell everybody, or just say beaten. But
- 52:47Speaker 3: it was just riddled out of me by nuns in retail.
- 52:51Speaker 3: But it was a fun time. Yeah, it's a weird, uh.
- 52:57Speaker 3: I think of it a lot of times. I remember
- 52:59Speaker 3: just I was just saying this to Mark. I remember
- 53:01Speaker 3: one time I was in our Elementarchyol library and I
- 53:03Speaker 3: was just screaming. And I remember just screaming as loud
- 53:05Speaker 3: as I could, and I'm the teacher missed the library.
- 53:10Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
- 53:11Speaker 3: Miss Research came over and she was like like she
- 53:13Speaker 3: was talking to a wild animal.
- 53:14Speaker 2: She's like, what are you doing?
- 53:16Speaker 3: What I was? I remember not even acknowledging that she
- 53:19Speaker 3: was there. I remember like just not even like taking
- 53:21Speaker 3: it in what tim does be better than most people.
- 53:26Speaker 1: No, not better, it's differently doesn't necessarily.
- 53:28Speaker 2: That people okay better, it was gonna be a lot
- 53:32Speaker 2: shorter list. No.
- 53:35Speaker 3: I think you definitely make a lot of effort to
- 53:39Speaker 3: be in people's lives. And I think that's a huge thing,
- 53:43Speaker 3: because I think as we get older, it's really it's harder.
- 53:46Speaker 3: Even if you I don't know, I feel like as
- 53:49Speaker 3: we get older, we just like that kind John mulaney
- 53:51Speaker 3: joke of like you love when people cancel plans when
- 53:54Speaker 3: you're thirty, but you hating people do when you're twenty,
- 53:56Speaker 3: and like it's just easier for things to drift away.
- 53:59Speaker 3: And I think you do a very good job of
- 54:00Speaker 3: keeping people in your life, especially where a lot of your.
- 54:04Speaker 2: You do a really good what a fucking horror way
- 54:06Speaker 2: to put that, I.
- 54:07Speaker 3: Think you're extremely good at because like a lot of
- 54:11Speaker 3: your truly close best friends are in four corners of
- 54:14Speaker 3: the country, and you talk with them daily, individually and
- 54:18Speaker 3: in group texts, which I think is really really incredible
- 54:21Speaker 3: because I have people I was best friends with for
- 54:25Speaker 3: fifteen plus years who will live two miles away and
- 54:28Speaker 3: I haven't spoken to them in two years.
- 54:29Speaker 2: It's just like this weird thing.
- 54:32Speaker 1: So that's very good, that's very kind. I feel like
- 54:35Speaker 1: I'm still thrilled when people cancel the plans Ryan, so
- 54:38Speaker 1: I will say that. I like if somebody, if I
- 54:42Speaker 1: was going to a Celtics game with somebody and they said,
- 54:45Speaker 1: oh I can't go at the last minute, why don't
- 54:47Speaker 1: you sell the tickets? I would think thank God. But
- 54:49Speaker 1: that's more like that's more just being tired and being
- 54:52Speaker 1: a parent. It's not that I don't want to be social.
- 54:55Speaker 1: I'm just so tired.
- 54:57Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have any good reason. But like I
- 55:02Speaker 3: was actually thinking, like when I first moved in here,
- 55:06Speaker 3: every Friday, Saturday, Sunday we were out either all day
- 55:10Speaker 3: at night just never. We were rarely ever here on
- 55:12Speaker 3: weekends actually in the building. And I'm just thinking of
- 55:16Speaker 3: it now, like oh I class week, I'm like I
- 55:17Speaker 3: have nothing to do. This is great, and just be
- 55:20Speaker 3: like wow, like this the interests have just changed.
- 55:25Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember there was a peppal can attest to this.
- 55:27Speaker 1: So like Andy was like this, he was like a
- 55:30Speaker 1: forty year old when he was twenty two, and there
- 55:33Speaker 1: was one night where he was gonna hang out with
- 55:35Speaker 1: us and we were waiting for him in Charlestown, me
- 55:37Speaker 1: and Pepper waiting and we were drinking and pregaming in Charlestown.
- 55:40Speaker 1: We're gonna go out with Andy, and Andy's getting delayed's
- 55:44Speaker 1: I'm texting you, where are you? He's not here yet.
- 55:47Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I'm gonna be a little bit. And
- 55:49Speaker 1: then it's like it's seven, it's eight. Now it's nine
- 55:51Speaker 1: to thirty, and he's like, oh, yeah, I'm not gonna
- 55:54Speaker 1: make it out tonight. And I just called him and
- 55:56Speaker 1: I was like, this is not acceptable, Like you can't know.
- 56:00Speaker 1: This is not okay, but you can cancel. If you
- 56:03Speaker 1: canceled six hours ago, you'd be shitty, you'd be a
- 56:06Speaker 1: shitty friend. But doing this, this is not acceptable, Like,
- 56:10Speaker 1: get your ass over here. So but like I kind
- 56:15Speaker 1: of now am what I mean. I wouldn't do that
- 56:18Speaker 1: to somebody. I wouldn't string them along and then bail.
- 56:20Speaker 1: But I'm now more like what Andy was when he
- 56:22Speaker 1: was twenty two.
- 56:24Speaker 3: What if you think, like, do you think Andy's gone
- 56:26Speaker 3: the other way now? Do you think maybe he's more alike?
- 56:29Speaker 1: I definitely do. I think Andy's changed a lot for
- 56:31Speaker 1: the for the better. Honestly, I think that Ashley has
- 56:35Speaker 1: changed him for the not not completely changed him for
- 56:37Speaker 1: the better. But I think that he's worse. Everybody's worse
- 56:40Speaker 1: and better in some ways. But I'd say overall, Andy
- 56:43Speaker 1: has mostly changed for the better. And I think he
- 56:46Speaker 1: appreciates friendship more, especially having moved to San Diego, So
- 56:52Speaker 1: I think that he really I think he really values
- 56:54Speaker 1: our friendship. And like I text Andy every day, but
- 57:00Speaker 1: I don't talk to him on the phone a lot,
- 57:02Speaker 1: like I don't see him. So so you know, recently
- 57:06Speaker 1: Andy texted me was like, Hey, I want to call
- 57:08Speaker 1: you and check in. We haven't talked on the phone
- 57:10Speaker 1: a lot, and I was really impressed. I was really
- 57:12Speaker 1: impressed by that. I was like, I should have done that. Stereotypically,
- 57:15Speaker 1: I would have done that when we went to college.
- 57:18Speaker 1: Like I know people that have a standing Sunday call
- 57:21Speaker 1: with their mom in college. I had a stand I
- 57:23Speaker 1: had a standing Sunday call with Andy in college because
- 57:26Speaker 1: I said, I know you're gonna make no fucking effort
- 57:29Speaker 1: to ever talk to me again, and I'm not allowing
- 57:32Speaker 1: that to happen. So we have to have a weekly
- 57:34Speaker 1: call because I want to hear what's going on in
- 57:36Speaker 1: your life. So but I'm bad. I feel like I'm
- 57:39Speaker 1: the worst about it now. Just was I'm so busy
- 57:42Speaker 1: with work and having a kid and just being fucking
- 57:44Speaker 1: exhausted all the time.
- 57:47Speaker 3: You know, do you feel like they're like texting has
- 57:49Speaker 3: kind of like I think I feel like I do
- 57:52Speaker 3: like this kind of like fraud mentality of like if
- 57:55Speaker 3: I'm texting with a person, whether it's frequently and frequently,
- 57:58Speaker 3: I'm like, Oh, we are in some kind of flow here,
- 58:02Speaker 3: and then you don't realize that, Oh, I haven't seen.
- 58:03Speaker 2: This person five months. I don't know where I don't know.
- 58:07Speaker 1: I agree. So for example, Colin Colin. I text Colin
- 58:10Speaker 1: almost every day and Colin I rarely see him and
- 58:14Speaker 1: we literally never talk on the phone. So I'm kind
- 58:18Speaker 1: of like, could I be better? Like should I see
- 58:20Speaker 1: I feel like I should see Colin more. But at
- 58:22Speaker 1: the same time, you know, texting him every day is great, Like,
- 58:26Speaker 1: you know, texting is I'm a pretty prolific texter, and
- 58:29Speaker 1: there's definitely things that are lost in text and it's
- 58:32Speaker 1: not like the best form of friendship. But I think,
- 58:36Speaker 1: you know, texting somebody every day goes a long way
- 58:39Speaker 1: if you don't have anything otherwise, it's better than doing nothing.
- 58:42Speaker 3: Exactly, And there's some consistency in there, and the fact that, like,
- 58:46Speaker 3: especially if you're almost a close one, if you're doing
- 58:51Speaker 3: nice that kind of like everyday texting where you're just
- 58:54Speaker 3: kind of sharing random ass things or whatnot, Like there's
- 58:58Speaker 3: a comfort in that and that I feel like that's
- 59:00Speaker 3: the closeness that it's not just like making an event
- 59:04Speaker 3: out of it. So I think I feels a little
- 59:06Speaker 3: bit more forced when you're kind of like actively doing
- 59:09Speaker 3: it that way.
- 59:09Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 59:09Speaker 3: To me, it kind of feels that way, but I
- 59:12Speaker 3: still should do it because there's a lot of people
- 59:14Speaker 3: I should see that I haven't.
- 59:16Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're pretty I think you're pretty
- 59:18Speaker 1: decent at it, especially if somebody has a plan that
- 59:22Speaker 1: nobody else really wants to go to, Like if somebody's like,
- 59:27Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm doing this thing with I can't
- 59:31Speaker 1: think of an example, but I was like, Oh, I'm
- 59:33Speaker 1: doing this thing. Do you guys want to like come
- 59:35Speaker 1: and stop by? And we're all thinking, no, I don't
- 59:38Speaker 1: really want to do that, but I kind of feel
- 59:39Speaker 1: like I should. I feel like you're always the one
- 59:41Speaker 1: to go.
- 59:44Speaker 2: I number one.
- 59:46Speaker 3: I think they asked me because they're like, well, he's
- 59:48Speaker 3: doing nothing, so what's his excuse if he doesn't.
- 59:51Speaker 1: Come you out of pity? Really like, let's give him
- 59:54Speaker 1: something to do, you.
- 59:55Speaker 2: Know what, We'll have him bring some stuff to No.
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: But I always feel like, and we talked about this, I.
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: Think maybe in real life outside of this, but like
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: I always feel like if I'm hesitant to do something
- 1:00:10Speaker 3: and you kind of give into it, I always feel
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: like that pitfall comes into play of like okay, that
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: that avalanche of just not trying it.
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: And again, it's that's the thing. It's not like it's
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: like someone's asking me.
- 1:00:20Speaker 3: Hey man, we're going fucking sky off it with no marriage,
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: let's do it.
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: It's not like that.
- 1:00:25Speaker 3: It's more like, oh, do you want to come meet us?
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: We're gonna do like like actually, so speaking of like
- 1:00:30Speaker 3: your birthday like that if you guys like, we're gonna
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: go to this karaoke bar. I don't personally love karaoke.
- 1:00:35Speaker 3: I have no problem doing it. I just don't love it.
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: I would never actively do it on my own. But
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: like I was like, okay, right, is this that is
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: this that hard of the thing to do no, and
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: like I feel like also, it's just kind of this
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: thing where you never know a lot of times the
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: great stuff comes out of those moments or comes out
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: of those situations that you wouldn't expect.
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: I agree with that. I agree, well, I think that
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: we should bring it to a part two. I really
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: like this. This is almost like I'm going to therapy
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: for free. So I'm spilling the beans so.
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: We will catch what's what's in here? Tim, what's in here?
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: Tell me what's in here.
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna flip this hooga bag over and
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: catch you on the hohoga flip