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#485 - Jelly Roll · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yo Bootleg cav podcast, Yes on the Road with Jelly Roll.
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  Speaker 2: Baby The Road with the Role Dude.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, Man, congratulations a new album. I text
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  Speaker 1: you this, but I truly feel I know it's, you know,
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  Speaker 1: coming from the hip hop side of things to say classic.
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  Speaker 1: When I hear a project a couple of times straight through,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like this is a classic body of work.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna come back at this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm super proud of it.
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  Speaker 1: Dude.
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  Speaker 2: It's the most time I've ever spent on a single
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  Speaker 2: body of.
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  Speaker 1: Work and it's twenty eight songs, but it's.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of meat. Dude. I wrote like one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty, one hundred and sixty or something.
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  Speaker 1: It's so crazy because even if like I go back
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  Speaker 1: to like your old school shit, like your songwriting to
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  Speaker 1: me has always been pretty superior in terms of like
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  Speaker 1: your ability to write certain hooks, like you know, thinking
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  Speaker 1: back to like Sunday Morning or smoking section. But it
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  Speaker 1: feels like the song writing has just like it's like
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  Speaker 1: it's hit its peak. Like I feel like you're in
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  Speaker 1: your prime with the pen right now.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm getting close. I don't think I'm there yet.
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  Speaker 3: I think i'm because I'm starting to like learn more
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  Speaker 3: about music too. Yeah, So the more I understand how
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  Speaker 3: the top line, like the lyrics side of what I
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  Speaker 3: do works with the music side of what's happening under it,
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  Speaker 3: the more dangerous I'm getting with understanding how this all
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  Speaker 3: works together.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting too because like I think of a song, like,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, you kicked the album off with winning streak,
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  Speaker 1: which is crazy because I grew up going to NA
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  Speaker 1: and AA meetings. My uncle had a drug rehab and
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  Speaker 1: he is recovering addict. My dad's a recovering addict. So
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  Speaker 1: I some my summer job used to be to sit
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  Speaker 1: in the back of those meetings. Wow, as like a
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  Speaker 1: fourteen or fifteen year old wow, collect people's stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like because it was it was a part of like
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  Speaker 1: a people who are on probation. You know.
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  Speaker 3: Did you understand at that age how impactful what was
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  Speaker 3: happening in front of you was?
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  Speaker 2: Or no?
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  Speaker 1: I think so, man, because you would just see people
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  Speaker 1: break down and like, I know, you know, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I never have touched any like I would say hard. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I've dounch rooms and weed and you know, a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of molly but I've never like putting none up
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  Speaker 1: my nose and shit because of like the I've seen
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  Speaker 1: it with my own eyes, Like right, you know, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know the dangers of you got to see it. It's
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  Speaker 3: absolute worse. It's crazy that you got to see the
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  Speaker 3: impact and understood the impact at that age too, because
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  Speaker 3: something what's happened in those rooms, it's magical at times. Man,
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  Speaker 3: it's also hilarious. I've heard some of the funniest stories
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  Speaker 3: of my life ever in those rooms.
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  Speaker 1: How because I heard you talk about it a little
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  Speaker 1: bit on Joe, But like, how often do you try
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  Speaker 1: to get into a meeting and like, at this point
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  Speaker 1: your jelly roll, So I can only imagine you walking
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  Speaker 1: into a meeting.
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  Speaker 3: Nah, Man, That's kind of one of the cool things
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  Speaker 3: about going to a meeting is they take the anonymous
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  Speaker 3: side of that really serious. So that's why I don't
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  Speaker 3: That's why I haven't talked a lot about it, because
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how much they would want me sharing
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  Speaker 3: what happens in those rooms or not. Dude, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but it's just so magical. But uh, yeah, man, that's
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  Speaker 3: the cool thing is that never bothered at all, man, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: never bothered at all anytime you go, man, just you know,
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  Speaker 3: you're just another addict or just another alcoholic to them.
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  Speaker 2: That's how they look at you.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 4: It just really humiliation, really this thing of humiliation that
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  Speaker 4: happens in there in a way of like humbling, like
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  Speaker 4: in a good way of like, no matter how great
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  Speaker 4: we're doing today, we always reduce ourselves to know that
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  Speaker 4: we're still that addict at heart, so we could that
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  Speaker 4: any moment, this thing could go left for us, and
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  Speaker 4: it is what keeps people in constant gratitude.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, man, but to answer.
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  Speaker 3: Your question, because I hate avoiding questions as much as
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  Speaker 3: I can go right, you know these days a few
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  Speaker 3: a year, you know what I mean, ten a year, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: What has there been, like any specific feedback you've gotten
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  Speaker 1: from that song and just being like wow, someone because
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  Speaker 1: I can't recall someone who's tackled that experience on a record,
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  Speaker 1: let alone kicking kicking off an album.
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  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, it's been cool, man. I haven't I
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  Speaker 2: haven't got I've been sub dude. I hate to admit this.
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  Speaker 3: I've been so in the vortex of this thing right here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hadn't.
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  Speaker 2: Even just today took the time to look at like critical.
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  Speaker 1: Reviews of my album?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean about that?
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  Speaker 3: No, not at all, but it just popped up on
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  Speaker 3: my feed and I actually had time today to entertain it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't go search for it.
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  Speaker 3: I just you know, it's like it's there and it's
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  Speaker 3: album review and then you hit one and you know
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  Speaker 3: how news feeds doing the Google, it just immediately gives
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  Speaker 3: you the role and you're like, well, let me just
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  Speaker 3: what did Pitchfork say?
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  Speaker 2: What did Browne? So?
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  Speaker 3: You know, and more than anything, it's not that I
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  Speaker 3: care about it. I'm just still so new to this.
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  Speaker 3: I care that they cared, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care if you shop on the album.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that you took the time to review a
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  Speaker 2: twenty eight song album that I put out, it's still
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  Speaker 2: fucking insane to me. Did people care enough about what
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing? You know? Yo?
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  Speaker 1: Uh if by the time this comes out.
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  Speaker 2: Think about that somebody got paid.
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  Speaker 1: To listen to your music and give them like a.
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  Speaker 2: Real deal, like well thought out thought like dude, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm honored.
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  Speaker 1: No, Like, I mean shit, growing up like and the
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  Speaker 1: source was such a big deal when you like going
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  Speaker 1: to look at the mics and but but again, it'd
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  Speaker 1: be like just having people give a fuck from Pitchfork
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  Speaker 1: or you know, if someone talked to you fifteen years ago,
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  Speaker 1: ten years ago, shit, eight years ago.
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  Speaker 3: One hunt, I would just be I would be so
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  Speaker 3: excited that the review could have just been a shit
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  Speaker 3: on me. And I've been like I'm getting reviewed, and
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  Speaker 3: that's still how I feel now. So yeah, but I
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  Speaker 3: just now I'm starting to see like the effects of
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  Speaker 3: the music that's happened even past yesterday. I kind of
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  Speaker 3: missed how big that moment was on TikTok. For the
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  Speaker 3: first few days of like twelve fifteen, twenty thousand women
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  Speaker 3: just sharing their story was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's it's crazy too because you the
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  Speaker 1: success of that moment on TikTok is what kind of
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  Speaker 1: it sped up you dropping the deluxe?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: We planned to drop the Deluxe, but it was like,
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna wait a few days or maybe even
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  Speaker 3: a week and see if I needed to come back around.
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  Speaker 3: And I was kind of inspired by post Malone because
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  Speaker 3: remember he dropped F one trillion and it had all
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  Speaker 3: these features, and then he dropped like seven songs called
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  Speaker 3: the Long Bed Edition right after with seven songs that.
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  Speaker 1: Were so low.
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  Speaker 2: I had these five like fire features come in the
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  Speaker 2: bottom of the night.
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  Speaker 3: In it, like people showed up for me, like Halsey,
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  Speaker 3: Russ Keith, Urban Ernest, like all those features showed up
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  Speaker 3: with for me, like within a week of releasing.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy now because I remember hearing you working on some
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  Speaker 1: of these records, like at the beginning of the tour,
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  Speaker 1: just in a room backstage.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like these we're still writing Beautifully Broken on
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  Speaker 3: the Beautifully Broken tour.
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  Speaker 2: I never thought of it that way. Cam. That's right,
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  Speaker 2: that's true.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great way to put it.
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  Speaker 2: That's why you're interview.
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  Speaker 1: If you're watching this, there's a good chance by the
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  Speaker 1: time this is released, that you had the number one album,
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  Speaker 1: your first number one album.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it was either me or Rod Wave and it's
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  Speaker 2: the battle is more than me and I'm happy for him.
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  Speaker 1: But it's crazy to think how far you've come.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Like you know, I always say when I when I
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  Speaker 1: think of music, you are an anomaly in terms of
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  Speaker 1: your career path, Like this doesn't happen, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if it will ever happen again. I think that You've
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  Speaker 1: always heard this from when you know, however many fifty
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  Speaker 1: to one hundred or three or four hundred people cedars
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  Speaker 1: you were doing. But I feel like what's always been
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  Speaker 1: synonymous with you is when people meet you, they love
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  Speaker 1: you right right, And I feel like that's just happening
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  Speaker 1: now on a world worldly stage. Yes, and just talk
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  Speaker 1: like how big of a deal is that?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 1: Because the last album was number five?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? I think last album was five, And I
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  Speaker 2: was blown away that we were in that car. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I was talking to Joe about. And I love
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  Speaker 2: Joe's perspective.
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  Speaker 3: I needed it this week, Yeah, album week when Joe's like,
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  Speaker 3: don't worry about a number one out, dude, worry about
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  Speaker 3: being jelly roll man. I'll stay at the sun. I've
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  Speaker 3: got that'll stick with me forever. But for me, it's
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  Speaker 3: still just like I guess, just.
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  Speaker 2: Being in the conversations are still so new to me.
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  Speaker 3: Like when I read the first time that charge hits whatever,
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  Speaker 3: David double drops and it goes jelly rolling rodwave with
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  Speaker 3: an X amount of thousands of each other for what
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  Speaker 3: could be first week number one, and.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a like enormous road wave man.
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  Speaker 3: He's like a huge rod like and as an artist,
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  Speaker 3: as a human, like how he's handled himself in critical
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  Speaker 3: appeal and the songs and just what he stands for.
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  Speaker 3: And I feel like we're singing the exact same song,
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  Speaker 3: just over two different beds.
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  Speaker 2: Of music, right, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: You know it's a It's like I would say that
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  Speaker 3: we're in the same house, just you know, we're in
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  Speaker 3: different rooms, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: That's what's happening right with Jelly Rolling rod Wave anyway.
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  Speaker 3: So just even being that kind of conversation with him
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  Speaker 3: or Charlie XCX and like these like these.
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  Speaker 2: Are pop stars to me.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, you know this, you're a fucking pop star.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy talk. That's that's crazy weep.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny. Every time we see each other after some time,
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  Speaker 1: we'll be like, Yo, it's getting weird, ain't it.
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  Speaker 3: It's getting weird, and it's getting weird. I'll admit that
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  Speaker 3: to you though on and off camera. It's getting weird,
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  Speaker 3: but like in a good way.
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  Speaker 1: But it's but dude, it's like if if I'm watching
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and you're in a commercial, and then
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching Summer Slam and you're fucking by the way
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  Speaker 1: pulling off what what an amazing choke slamb.
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  Speaker 2: Listen it was I probably up there, Listen.
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  Speaker 3: I hate to say this. I'll get in trouble for
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  Speaker 3: just saying this. I've had one of the best years ever.
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  Speaker 3: If I have a number one album this week, I've
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  Speaker 3: had a number one album Saturday Night Live. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I was invited to the Grammys for the first time
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  Speaker 3: this year.
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  Speaker 2: This is all this year and I'm turning forty forty.
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  Speaker 3: I want to be forty this year, and I can
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  Speaker 3: still tell you that I think Summer slim is probably
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  Speaker 3: the coolest moment of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Oh for sure.
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  Speaker 2: It's just hard to beat. Dude. It's like the listen,
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  Speaker 2: I got slimmed. That's up there.
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  Speaker 1: That was cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But for me, these were big moments for me because
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  Speaker 3: I've talked about this a little bit, but not the
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  Speaker 3: way I really want to. It's like this was like
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  Speaker 3: inner child moments for me, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Like as a kid who grew up in the system,
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  Speaker 3: and everybody knows my story. They're exhausted here and I
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  Speaker 3: don't talk about it no more neither, But just knowing
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  Speaker 3: where I'm from, I was by by some decisions I made, had.
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  Speaker 2: To grow up a little earlier than most people.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so because of that, I didn't you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Like, you bring me back and slim me,
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  Speaker 3: you circle back around and I get to choke slam
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  Speaker 3: somebody and sugget to listen, and they brought me in
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  Speaker 3: full face, just feeling off, just doing what they do best,
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  Speaker 3: just gracing them, just gracing and Austin just wiling people up.
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  Speaker 3: And I get to come in with a chair shot
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  Speaker 3: and then listen, here's the shoot on and I shot on.
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  Speaker 3: I shot on a little bit with Logan, but here's
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  Speaker 3: a real shoot on this. To giv Austin theory is
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  Speaker 3: a hero in this. Grayson's a hero in this. MI
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  Speaker 3: is our truth, dude, our truth. Is one of the
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  Speaker 3: best humans on earth I've heard, one of the sweetest,
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  Speaker 3: most down to earth.
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  Speaker 2: What can I do to help you? Loving dudes? You
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  Speaker 2: will ever meet.
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  Speaker 3: His His character where he confuses stuff is so hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: But like if that wasn't his character, that's a piece
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  Speaker 3: of his soul anyways, Like just that lighthearted.
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  Speaker 2: Spiritedness of who he is. And I realized really early
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  Speaker 2: when I was working with all of these dudes that
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  Speaker 2: they were doing everything they could to make me look
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  Speaker 2: as good as I could.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that whole jealous a little spoof he had. It
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  Speaker 1: kind of sets you up, like like that first appearance
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  Speaker 1: you did and he had the jelly.
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  Speaker 2: It's so good, dude, It's like it was cool man.
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  Speaker 3: So like that watching them rally and when you realize that,
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  Speaker 3: it gives you a whole new respect for wrestling. I
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: always say it to guys when they do when like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I tell Eric Church or guys. They don't know the
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  Speaker 3: language sometimes, but I'm like man in the wrestling world
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  Speaker 3: post Malone, when he put me on his album, I
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: was like, Yo, this is called giving me the rub,
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  Speaker 3: Like you're pulling me.
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  Speaker 2: Over right now. Yeah you know what I mean over
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  Speaker 2: putting me over, dude. It's like you're giving me the
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  Speaker 2: rub right now.
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  Speaker 3: And I realized that that's why that business has stayed
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  Speaker 3: big for so many years. I wish music would steal
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  Speaker 3: that from them, the idea of constantly trying to pull people,
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  Speaker 3: get people, help put people, constantly trying to put people over,
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  Speaker 3: constantly trying to give people the rub, like watching.
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  Speaker 1: I think you know, I think Drake did that for
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  Speaker 1: a long time, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Because even in Austin's shoes, his idea was like, I know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm taking a bump here and listen, Austin is a
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  Speaker 3: world class wrestler. He has no business allowing an overweight
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  Speaker 3: musician choke slamming him on SummerSlam, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: But he's but it's in his mind.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, no, this is what's best for all of
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  Speaker 3: us in this moment, because if we all do this right,
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: this clip could be big for all of us. This
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: could be big for the entire wrestling world. This could
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: be new eyeballs on wrestling. This could like this is
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: how they think of every decision they make back in
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: those locker rooms, and it's I admire it, dude, and
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  Speaker 3: thank you for letting me come on here and get
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  Speaker 3: to shoot on that a little more because it's like I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm also obsessed. I am ready in the backyard.
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  Speaker 1: Rumble in Tampa.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I was just there hanging. Yeah, you was with your son. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we were just there on some like whatever stuff.
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  Speaker 2: That's yo.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting to see.
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  Speaker 3: That's something else I'm proud of. I've never been worked
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: into the show for any reason. But being a fan
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: of the show right because you're just there exactly. It
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  Speaker 3: was never like a media thing or like business is
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: people together. This was real deal, Like, Hey, I'm coming
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  Speaker 3: to Monday night Raw. Anyways, how early am I allowed
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  Speaker 3: to get there?
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  Speaker 1: And who can I meet?
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  Speaker 2: And then when I'm.
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  Speaker 3: There and they see that I'm such a fan, they're like, man,
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: we should work this dude in the show. Randy's the
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: home he sodom. I just met him, but he's just
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: immediately was like, oh this is I love this. Let's
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  Speaker 3: do this, you know what I mean. He immediately was
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  Speaker 3: like drawing into bringing me into the storyline with him,
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  Speaker 3: which was super super cool because he's seen that I
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  Speaker 3: was a fan too, and he told me that afterwards.
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  Speaker 3: Randy was like, uh, He's like, it's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people to come through here that kind of know what
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  Speaker 3: we're doing, but they're not necessarily as He's like, man,
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  Speaker 3: just I admire the grace you showed back here, Like
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: the respect. I mean, you know, I walk around that
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  Speaker 3: think and I had off like yo, I have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of respect for what they do back there.
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  Speaker 2: Man, huge fucking wrestling fan, kah, huge wrestling fan.
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  Speaker 1: Talk to me about this moment we're in where there's
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of uh cross genre happening in the country direction,
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like you're kind of the first person
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  Speaker 1: that I that did it in a serious way. But
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: but but you kind of did it in a way
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: that was a lot a lot different than some of
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: the artists will see it now, Like you kind of
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: did it. You're an underground artist initially, right, like, and
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: then doing country was always something that was natural to you,
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: but it's what changed your life.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: Right do you feel like the.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: Trend of the genre of country music is being like
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: it feels like everyone's doing country. It just kind and
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: like not necessarily from a place of like even being
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: a fan of the music, just it just feels like
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: it's the thing to do, Like, like from your perspective
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: as kind of being the first guy to kind of
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: people would look at you as a rapper initially right
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: to have all this success, Like from how you see it,
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: how do you how do you see what's going on
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: right now with everybody kind of flocking to the genre.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: I think it's country music finally getting's turn.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my perspective, it is like we've actually got to
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: watch every other genre get its turn on critical mass,
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: but never Country. There would be artists here and there
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: that would get big enough that, like, you know, country
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: has always been represented in critical masks, with the Grammys, Amas, VMA's,
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: you know, all these different facets. But it's I think
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: it's just like the natural evolution of like it was
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: just kind of Country's turn. Finally, it was a great
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: time to be there. I think I have. I think
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: that the only thing I have to do with that
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: is luck of just waiting out long enough to be around,
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: long enough to be there, you know what I mean.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: It's kind of the John Cena story. The Seeing Punk
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: stories are kind of John Cena's just like it was
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: just he was just consistently there. You just always show
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: up and you're always there. It's like all of a
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: sudden you can you can eventually become the guys the last.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like you gave Post the rub.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: No Posts gave me the use. Well listen, Post is Post,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: but I.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Feel like in this world like it's you giving him
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: the run.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Well it's a weird thing, man. It's like
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Post and Beyonce.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: What they did was just bringing a bigger spotlight to
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: what was already overwhelmingly like if country couldn't have got
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: any bigger, the two of the five biggest pop stars
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: on Earth was like, Hey, we're gonna go do country
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: albums this year.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: It's like it couldn't.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Man, I sound silly when I talk like this, but
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: I really think when you look back at this ten
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: years from now, twenty years from now, it's going to
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: just continue to stand the test of time more and more.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Like when you look back, we're talking about it in
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: real time and it's kind of blowing our mind. But
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: when they really look at this decade and what happened
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: with country music, and they're just like yeah, and Post
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Malone dropped one of the biggest albums of the year
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: that year, and Beyonce it was a great album. Beyonce
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: got in the genre.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: And just by the way, the biggest song of the
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: year is the country song bar.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Song, Yeah, well two years in a row now last
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: night was last year. The second biggest song of this
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: year was a Morgan Waham song.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Crazy Years in a Row. Speaking of the Bar song
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: boy shameless.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Plug here Shaboozy's coming on tour.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Ka Boozy is on tour with Jelly Rawl. I love you, Shaboozie.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you Booze Man for picking my tour.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: No, that's that's special. You can have the number one album,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: the number one song on toy Man.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Dude, it's like Booze Man, he could have kind of
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: like Warren on this tour. He could they could have.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: These are two guys that are white hot right now,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: especially Booze.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I mean Booze is fish grease hot.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I think eighteen weeks number one.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: It just broke the record for the you know what
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, like just took Little Knaves X record. I
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: mean crazy, It's unreal.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: And uh, he could have did a headliner. He could
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: have went out with anybody. He was like, No, I'm
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: into that jelly Roll tour. It's just awesome.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Just who Shaboozy is though?
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Man, So you reach out to Glorila on Twitter.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I love Glow.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: You guys dropped the same day. She's got a great
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: body and work out. Glorious.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, a lot of people. That's her government name, right,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I believe I think I think I'm serious. I think
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I think or something. No, I think her government name
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: is Glorious.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: That's amazing.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Hold on the coach is looking it up. I bet
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I'm right, Tennessee.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: That sounds about Gloria.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, you was right. It's Hallelujah. That's the part. Always
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I thought it was glorious, but it's because of Gloria Hallelujah.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: That's what a what a name.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I love Glow, man, I'm such a fan of Glow.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I got to meet her at the iHeart Radio Wards.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I got to meet with the iHeart Radio Awards, and
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: I had me and my wife had already posted tiktoks
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: to the song.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: You know, we're huge fans.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: I love Memphis music, growing up three six Mafia and
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: they'm being involved in me so early, and I love
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: a little White and living in Memphis for a few years.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: It's like, I just I'm always watching what's happening in
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Memphis because you can count on a couple of artists
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: a year being in the top ten biggest artists in
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: hip hop every year being Memphis.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're You're synonymous with Memphis forever. Man.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: I'm proud of that too, man, because I love you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: I love Memphis and Gloria's just awesome. Dude, and me
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: and you talked about this off camera, but I think
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: we should give her flowers like this on camera. She
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: is you feel a radiation of gratitude coming off of
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: her that is rare in the music business, like this,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: real genuine, like every step forward for her as a win,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: and she is just in the most graceful place. You
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: can almost tell. She's to the point now where even
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: the bullshit don't get to her no more. She don't
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: get wrapped up and none of that. She is just complete.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: She is floating and you can feel that when you're around.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Her, you know what I mean.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: It's like she just gives off this genuine gratitude and
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: the music is fucking incredible.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: No, she's I just thought, so here's the story. I should.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I should. I'll tell you the story.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Me and Glowyd when we met, we immediately because immediately
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: people in her management camp, you know my relationship with
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Memphis for all these years, we all kind of know
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: each other.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: It's two degrees of separation where that is.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Anyway, So somebody hit me and me like, yo, I'm
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: such a such you remember back then I'm working with Glowe.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I want to get yall together, put us on a
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: text thread and U Every time either one of us
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: have been in La. We've hit the other one and
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: missed each other, but like a couple of days so
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: we were trying to do something anyways. It was like
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: if I look at our text thread right now, it's
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: a constant like I'm in La.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Where are you at?
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: When you hear and it's like a day later she'll
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: be like, ah, I'll be there Friday, and I'm like
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I'm gone, yeah, Or it's like her being like, Yo,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: I'm in La.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Where are you at? Swing By? You know what I mean.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: So it's like we I know, we like each other
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: and we want to work together and she knows I'm
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: a huge fan, and uh, it's been really cool man.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I love that she was like, we got to do
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: this for Tennessee. I've me and my heart smile.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, dude. The Memphis, whole Memphis thing is
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: just crazy. You know, Rest in Peace, Golf, you know
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: that whole case. Some of the details that's getting interesting,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: how I mean it's like for you, like you're such
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: a fan of just everything, Like you know, I kind
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: of look at you as like, let's talk about.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: The doll trail for two seconds. I know you don't
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: want me to get hung up. Here because you're my friend.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Don't want me to get in trouble. But all I
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: want to say about the Doll trail is I was
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: blown away that the doph trial opened and closed open
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: on a Monday, closed on a Friday, and had a
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: deliberated jury.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Return a verdict back in five days. And we have
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: been watching.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey sit down in the the Cave County jail for years.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: It is, man, I don't like to get in the
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: middle of stuff, and some of the stuff that he
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: was accused of is extremely heinous and if it's true,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: he should be held accountable like any other criminal. But man,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: it just seems like one of the greatest injustices I've
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: ever seen happening down there, man.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: And it's getting to the point.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Man, I don't keV. I would tell you something, keV.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: I don't talk about this much, Bubba. But there's something
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: I'm into. When I'm writing music, I don't listen to music,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: so I listened to podcasts and it's somewhere between comedy
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: and true crime. And my preference of keeping up with
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: true crime isn't like the eerie stuff. I like watching
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Law and Crime with Jesse on YouTube or familiar with
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: his channel, or I watched Bruce Rivers. I watch, like,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I got a few of these different kind of lawyer
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: things that I'll watch, these kind of lawyer things that
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I'll go and then if I'm really interested in what
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Jesse Webber's talking about, I'll just go watch that day
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: of the trial. I get that nerded out about like
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: active trials when they're happening. I think it's because my
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: mama used to watch them. She obsessed about them.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: We were I've never talked about Yeah, I've never talked
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: about this one. What do you think?
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: What do you think about the thug thing? Because it
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: feels to me as if it's gonna get thrown out
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: at least it and then he's.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I think they're gonna I think they're just if it
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: doesn't get thrown out, then it actually goes in there,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: they'll either find him guilty or the juri or hang.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: But the problem becomes I think that I think that
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: he's gonna end up getting out of the case, and
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I think he's going to have the biggest class action
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: lawsuit against the Cab County and American history. You know
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: what I mean, Because it's one hundred and twenty some
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: people on that case. I think the da overshot. I
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: think that she was I don't know what she was thinking.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I think she made too. She made a mountain out
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: of a mole hill. And there was some really really
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: really bad stuff that happened. There were bodies involved, There
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: was murders, murder for higher plots.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I mean it.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: It had all the makings of what looked like it
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: should be a big thing.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: My man, Hey, chow chy Bobby, we have we have
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: three dogs, Tim, will you take them out? Tim? Yeah? Hey,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: what about scary gat mad today?
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Because you think at that dog?
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Why am I not going to l as like? Because
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: you got to watch the dogs. He did bring it down.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: It was like he brought a dog, so you got
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: to stay back with your dog. The mean greets seemed
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: to go quick. Huh yeah, fifteen twenty. It felt great.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Kiss Cameron, Kiss, Shots to the Bunny. A pod swap
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: is coming soon, the pop swap, the pods swap. I
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: love that.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: My wife immediately made a sexual cox swah.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: She said, are we cock swapping? What does that mean?
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Man? I love sex? Why am I? Yeah?
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: It is interesting it's interesting too, because like, do you
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: ever get into these. I find myself sometimes watching them,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: but it's it's a little different because I know, I
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: know like a lot of these guys, so I try
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: not to. But like the like Hood documentaries that they
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: be putting out, where they like they'll tackle like the
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville hip hop scene, or how accurate.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Do you think some of that stuff is?
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Who in that scene do you think actually does there?
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Takes their time against their information.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: That's the problem. I just had this conversation.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I will tell you who gets their paper who gets
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: the paperwork right. Jake gets the paperwork right. But I
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: have a lot of respect for him. He takes the
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: time to get it right.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know if I've ever heard him
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: be wrong. And if he feels like the a guy
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: that would have the humility to be like this, this
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: was no.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I think he jump on the grenade. If he was
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: really wrong, he strikes music of would immediately be like
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: those documents, you think.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: He's I got no.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: My old thing is.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: You're in a tight spot here. You can't say you think.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, I think that when you're I just had
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: this conversation. Think about this, like, we're creating a culture
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: of hip hop fans who don't look at hip hop
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: artists people. They look at them as criminal interests on
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: their favorite YouTube channel. Overall, what they're doing is they're
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: not even into the music. Like, let's be honest, right,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: like a lot of the stories the music. Yeah, So
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: it's like when someone like Folio, you know, gets murdered,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: going and looking at the comments on some of these
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: posts are like it's like there's just no humanity like
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: with some of these fans, they just don't give a fuck.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: And so like with Chapel of Ross, like you know,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I know he made like a three and a half
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: half hour long King Vaughan hip hop's first serial killer video.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just if you can't prove that, that's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: a pretty crazy thing to put on someone who's dead, right,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: you know. So I don't know, man, I think that
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: you know, there a lot of that stuff is entertaining,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Like I think Trapple of Ross does a good job
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: of putting together entertaining content.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Now my wonder becomes is from a I think about
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: it as journalism, is that who is actually doing the
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: research to get it right? And it makes you want
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: and I don't know, I've watched some of Trapleo, of
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Ross's stuff.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: He's got entertaining stuff for sure.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: It sucks, man, because I'm such a hip hop fan
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: to watch that part of hip hop. You know, you
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: gotta think in our era when Tupac got killed, there
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: wasn't a bigger news story in the world.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: When Master J you can go on.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: YouTube and watch. I mean, if Tupac died today, you know,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: there'd be so much content to digest about it.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: For sure, it probably his murder probably would have gotten solved.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: No, they would have filmed it all the way to
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: where it happened. They've been able to track back every.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Video taken of that bends coming down the strip, or
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: people waving at each other. All that stuff would have
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: been able to happen in those moments.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Talk to me, man, you know we haven't really talked
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: about this. I've heard you talk about it, but I
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: know how how much of a big deal it is
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: to even have like someone like Eminemic knowledge who the
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: fuck you are, but to have Eminem sample your song
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: and to be able to perform with him, to be
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: able to just I mean, you've been performing, uh loose
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: yourself on stage, yeah.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: For years and years and uh you know.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Can you Like I said, I know, I know you've
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: talked about it a lot, but I just feel like
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: it's such a you know, I just know how big
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: of a deal that was for you, man, So you know,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: just yet like it's.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Getting weird weird, No, dude, Marshall's the who's the goat.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Anybody who says Eminem is.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Not the greatest rapper ever, it's just lie. Just you know,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: they're they're allowing other factors.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if we're talking about the talent of.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Rapping, yes, I don't I would argue to say that,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: A man, I don't know. There's a lot of we'll
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: never see nobody better. I think there will be. I
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: don't think that I'll live long enough.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: To see it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I know what I think lyrically, Yeah,
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: I think, you know, I think I think we've we've
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: had we've I always say, we're in the middle of
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: this era of Kendrick Lamar and it's almost like watching
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: Steph Curry where it's like, well, we just.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Kind of take advantage of Steph Curry and Lebron's on TV,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: but like we we appreciate we lived through the Eminem
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: thing and we're still here, so we knew what it
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: was like. But I think during that era we weren't.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: We didn't look at Eminem as the greatest of all time.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: We just loved I.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Don't know the Kendrick moment. I don't know.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Kendrick's got a unique thing that's happening right now. That's
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: very Eminemish. As far as that dude's been putting out
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: hits a long time.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Now, for sure, it's been ten years.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: He's a decade into putting out real, absolute solified bangers.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Eminem had a decade like that. I think that his
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: follow up to Not Like Us will be one of
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: the most important bodies of work. Whatever he does will
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: be super super important.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: What is it? Also takes a lot of time off right,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: he has big drops and big.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: It takes time. Yeah, what is what is that like?
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: First initial? Is it a text? Is it a call
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: where you find out that a save me remix is
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: on the eminem out?
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: It's Paul Rosenberg. It's Paul Paul Rosenberg. Man, Paul Rosenberg
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: is the dude. So that's ms longtime manager. Anybody watching
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: that doesn't know, absolutely legend been with him day one,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: built the entire business. Around.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: It just one of the He'll go down as one
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: of the greatest ever, do you know what I mean?
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: And him and my manager John and nearly been friends
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: since they did Renegade together back, so they've been friends for.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: All this time. I didn't know I was on M's
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: even radar.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: I just assumed, you know that if I had a
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: chance to be on his radar would have been a
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: decade ago, whenever the Timnute Freestyle might have called it,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: you know. But apparently he dug the record, and when
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: they initially called, they just said send it with no context.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: And for this, fum, I don't need any context.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: You tell me.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Anyone wants something, send them, send them, Send the vocals
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: we didn't use. He wants to go recop, you know
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: what I mean, Like send him everything.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Uh, And you know how rap is.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna send me a verse and
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I was just gonna have a remix of my phone,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this, let me let me slide on. Man.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I just kind of you know the role, I'm gonna
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: get a Rul's gonna throw you one, you know him, Drake.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: They've kind of waned these I've watched these guys do
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: it over the years.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: It's like randomly, just throw somebody one, and I was like,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I might be finn to get one, and were turned
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: out even cooler than getting one. It turned out that
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: end up being for his album. Now, I didn't I
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: didn't hear much about it for a year or eight
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: months or whatever.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: It was a long period of time.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I'm not good at judging time right now, because I
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: think I started this tour eight months ago and it
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: was six weeks ago. I don't know, I'm lost, but
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: it was definitely enough time that I had gotten sad.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: That's the best way to put it. It was long enough
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: that I had come to the conclusion it wasn't gonna happen.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: And then John calls me.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: He's like, EM's, EM's gonna put this on his record,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Like for sure, because when I seen Houdini drop, I
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: was like maybe maybe, I was like, he might be
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: you know this, this could be real, right, because my
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: fear was he just didn't drop at all. But I
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: had a feeling that it was gonna happen, and it did.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Man doing the video with him, he's been nothing but
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: kind man, Yeah, nothing but kind. Yeah, funny, genuine all
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: that stuff.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: How hard is it for you with your come up?
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I always wonder this because I know that we are
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: in a very finicky industry and you've been a part
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: of this industry long before you household name. But to
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: have the success you've had over the last couple of
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: years and to probably have new interactions with people that
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: maybe didn't reply to DMS or big timed you, and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: that is that like does that do you remember all?
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: And I don't think you're a petty guy, but is
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: that like you ever?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: But I also know you don't forget, so like, does
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: that happen a lot for you?
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: No? I remember like.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: The couple of like booking agents that really passed on
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: me that like genuinely just like took the meeting and
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: you just never heard back from and then somebody else
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: come and says they passed Right, those you kind of
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: don't forget because you know you're so desperate that those
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: meetings meet everything right. But I also didn't hold much
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: of a grudge though, because I man, I guess that's
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: how I still look at stuff, keV. Is that even
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: then I would go into those rooms like I don't
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: care how this meeting goes. The fact that I was
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: invited here, lets me know that it was like to
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: me an erow this old fashioned phrase that the arrows
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: are all always pointing us in the right direction. You know,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: you just got to look for him. It's like these
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: were a rows for me, you know what I mean.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: So anytime I got big shot at the fact that
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: I was close enough to something to get big shot.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: At, it was like I'm cooking. I'm cooking.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: I thought about me and Paul talking about Paul Rosenberg.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I met Paul Rosenberg when Yellow Wolf was getting ready
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: to put out Love Story.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, so this is like twenty fourteen, fifteen mm.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: It's probably not right, around a decade ago, and he's
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: it's way before right, probably a year seven eight months
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: for the album came out. He was playing some of
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: the music for like a private Grammy pre listening party
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: for Interscope, and Paul was there and I got blackout
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: drunk on whistle Big never Forget It. And you know,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I met Paul then, and that's but I'm Yellow's plus one, right,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: And even then in those moments, I was like, man,
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: I'm on the right path, Like if this dude likes
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: me enough to invite me to this party and then
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: introduce me to this dude. Like this is more a
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Roe's point in the right way, you know.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I feel like Love Story was so ahead of its
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: time that if that album came out in twenty twenty four,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: it's got a couple of number one records on it.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Dude, it is that it still had a couple of
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: really big reals.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: No, of course. I mean I think I think, uh,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I know it's gone as platinum or gold. I think
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: it was American you on there.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: I think that was a really weird time for Oh
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: dude had the eminem record on there, my best.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Friend yeah, yeah, out of my veins, that one, and
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: the one about about his baby Mama.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, was empty Bottles on that record. Was the next?
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Empty Bottles was on that record? Yeah?
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Man, so many has so many big records. I think
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: that it fell in a weird time. It was somewhere
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: between the tail end of digital. Did you were streaming?
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Wasn't what streaming is yet?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: And and and and the other, the old school way
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: was dying off?
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Was it was all but dead?
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: It was weird. It was a weird limbo it was a.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Super weird time to be putting out because remember Till
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: It's Gone got picked up by the last scene of
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Sons of Anarchy.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Which made that such a bid I remember that, Yeah, I.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Remember said at the house, watching and going this dude's
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: fixing out the biggest moment ever.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I could feel it right then.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: You felt it in Nashville though, Dude him and Clever
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: as DJ running around town on Harley's long hair. It
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: was just such a different feeling that was happening around
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: what he was doing in that moment. But I think
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: it was just a very weird time to be putting
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: out work. It's like buying houses or selling them.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Right now, yo, you are the We kind of went
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: over some of these numbers last night, the amount of
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: physical copies you're actually selling, the true album sales, which
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: to me means way more than streams. Right, streams can
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: be manipulated. Streams could be background music. People could throw
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: something on while they're at the barbershop. Shit just plays.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: If it isn't one hundred thousand, it's close to one
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand actual physical copies of this album were bought,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: which is insane. It's it's it's almost unheard of. I
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: feel like I feel like maybe Nikki still does that,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: but at least, you know, in the genre that I'm
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: familiar with, it's pretty it's pretty damn near unheard of.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: You've grown this like fan base through obviously being unapologetically
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: yourself but speaking for so many people who don't have
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: a voice. But I also feel like you have this
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: other side of your fan base that they just love you.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: They're not even like they like the music's cool, but
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: they saw you on a podcast, right they saw you.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: They just love you. They saw you on you know,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: going and speaking to Congress. Just explain to me that
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: connection with the fans that is, you know, it's anonymally
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: in music right now, to have one hundred thousand physical
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: copies moved in seven days, that's fucking insane.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: No, that's great, man.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: It's it's a support in a way that I couldn't
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: ever dream that of felt. It's like overwhelming, honestly, you know,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: it's I don't know, man, it's crazy just having to
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: me me and you talked about it too, and we
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: talked about it off camera, but I'll say it on
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: camera too. Is that I'm all I'm the grass is
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: greener for me in that scenario where it's like the
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: streaming side though, is such a big consumption side in
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: the new world, because I guess I'm still nervous. I
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: hope that the CDs are translating to people caring about
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: the music because we've watched the street hustlers. I know
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: dudes that have sold tens of thousands of CDs that
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: couldn't sell seven tickets. So the real measure to me
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: of an artist's success truly is if people show up
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: to the building and see on.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Four feet away from the stage.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: That's it. It's like to me, that's the tail tale.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: You sold out?
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: How many people in Wichita, Kansas on a Tuesday?
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, thirteen fourteen thousand.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Cool, great show. We're gonna do it again the night
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: of Springfield. But it's gonna be gonna be a ball
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: down here in Springfield.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Is the like the people will they will they come?
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Is that? Can you build a tour around it? And?
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Uh, you know that's what to me whenever I look,
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: and normally the top two or three albums can normally
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: tell that road Wave is a huge touring act.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Charlie is a huge touring act. You know what I mean,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: it's a but that's where that's where the rubber really
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: meets the road is if you can get somebody to
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: buy a ticket, because listen, man, I tell people, man,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: that's not a ticket stub. That's a soul. That's a story,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: and that's you get thirteen thousand stories. That's a babysitter,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: that's gas money, that's that's a rough day of work.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: I took a day off and drove in, you know
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: what I mean. That's all big stuff. So it's like,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: to me, that's the real tale.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: You've had so many interesting live moments in terms of
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: just your career obviously, many gatherings of the Juggalos opening
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: up for insane clown posse, being in a van with
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: highlight running around this country. What uh you know? Because
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: how many tickets total will this tour move by the end?
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: It's it's seven hundred thousand.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Seven hundred thousand. That's fucking crazy to here. I love
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: as well. What was like for you crazy? Talk to
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: me about the other the other side of your Tory
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: career where you were in the van and I think
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: you guys are trying to track down the van, Bertha, We're.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Trying to find that old van right now. We sticked
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: our guy on it.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: But like for you, like to have seen it on
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: all ends of the spectrum, like take me back, and
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: you kind of shared a story about like a rough
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: a rough life show. You had what was like kind
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: of your your valley of being on the road as
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: an independent artist trying to make it before people gave
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: a fuck.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: I told a story about whenever we played the Boardwalking Sacramento,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: when there was like seven people or something that showed up.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: But the one I told you that was just as
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: funny was we played the Please called the Electric Factory
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Philly right in Philly, right, And I'm open enough for ICP.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: And I'm one of four. So what one of four
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: means is there's four acts. I cps the fourth act.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: I'm the first act, which means I go first of
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: all the four two as mad Child. Three is the
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Mafia six okay, which is three six Mafia their side group, Yeah,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: their side group short of Juicy.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: And and so I'm one of four in Philly at
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: the Electric Factory.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: And every night what I would do is because there
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: was like a change over time between acts, fifteen or
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: twenty minutes, I would say the last song. I would go, hey, y'all,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: I got inside information here, such as Smad Child's not
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: coming on stage for twenty minutes.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: So for the next twenty minutes until his song.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Starts, I want to be back at the merch booth,
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: signed stuff, taking pictures, smoking joints, whatever y'all want to do.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Just come hang. You know.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: It's early, right, And uh I come off stage and
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: I'm like trying to get through the crowd to the
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: you know thing and normally have to put my hood
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: up and kind of get there, and I'll take a
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: picture or two on the way and uh man, I'm
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: looking people straight and the eye nothing. I'm walking right
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: by people. I just remember I just performed for this
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: whole crowd.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: And I go to my merch moove and not a
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: soul is in there, cav not a listen there's and
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: it's so packed that people are standing like they have
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: looked my front of my merch booth has become a
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: common area where like people would come together and exchange
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: cigarettes or like put stuff in a bag.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Even you were sitting there.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody, I'm standing there like you know, like my
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: little stuff behind me. You know what I'm saying, I'm
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: selling my little T shirts. It's like nothing. It was
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: so bad. I watched I watched, Uh, I watched.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: ICP from front of house, but not like front of house.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: I meant like front of house, like you know, I
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: just went out there. Yeah, I just stood next to
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: a guy. You know what I'm saying that look annoyed
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: that I was taking up faces.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Just watch those show.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Those are those stick with you too, because those are
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: the nights you get in the car and really be like,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: maybe I'm driven. You're looking for the arrows, and that's
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: a night where you don't get one.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: You like you getting.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: In fact, arrows go the other way. Net negatives another negative.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: That's funny, Yo. I wanted to you know you and
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: uh whether I don't know if you know this, but uh,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: you know your daughter and my son have something in common.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: They're both as as I heard you describe it on
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: a podcast Victims of Drug Addiction. Because my son's mom,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: her whole life was just I mean, it was like
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: a battle to keep her sober. She left him when
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: he was like two for like a year, and then
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: at the age of ten, I decided to pull the
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: plug on trying to keep the bullshit together. He hasn't
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: seen it. She hasn't seen him. He's nineteen. She hadn't
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: seen since he was ten. Wow, but you know, my
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: wife comes into his life when when he's eleven, and
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: you know his mom now. Yeah, but you know, I
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you, like, how do you deal
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: with you know? And I'm kind of asking for advice
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: here because my son's nineteen. He's a great kid, you know,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: just graduated high school, he's going to college. But I
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: feel like sometimes I see him wearing that that unresolved
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: mom shit.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well he is. There's no way he's not.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: I mean even the toughest, smartest kids that are the
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: most grounded and understanding, when you go through something like that,
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: you can't help but wonder what's going on. And you
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: also got to keep in mind that no matter how
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: smart he is, that brain still developing. Yeah, for sure,
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, he's still even though he's nineteen,
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: he's an he can buy a cigarette now.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: It's not to me. He's not no adult. I wasn't
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: an adulted eighteen.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I mean I had him when I was eighteen.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, so you know that feeling.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: So it's like, I don't know, man, I would I
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: would encourage you to encourage him, or I'll encourage him
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: to reach out and seek real help about that, you
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. There is a book called.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Children of Drug Addict Parents or something like that, children
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: of Alcoholic Parents.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: I'm just not didn't you know whatever, But I normally
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: would have that book on the top of my head.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: But I've read it before. It's a great book. It
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: helped me a lot, just like getting in tune with
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: that and understanding and one him just acknowledging it, that'll
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: be a good step for him just to kind of
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: be like, yeah, man, it does bother me a little
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: bit that, you know.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Do you have to deal with that with Bailey at all?
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Sometimes where you got kind of like, you know, because
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: to get your you were forced to get your shit together.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: And I still had the moments would be where I
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: can tell its way and on and we still allow
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: her to talk. Yeah, and I allowed she I allow
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: her to have space to feel however she feels about
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: her mother. That's a big one because sometimes she's like, yo,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: I kind of want to talk to her and I
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: want to figure this out, and I'm like cool. And
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: then sometimes she's like, I never want to talk to
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: that woman again, and I'm like, I respect that decision too,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: But either decision you make, I think it's important that
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: you continue to get help about it. So, you know,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: she goes and Bay, he's been in therapy for a
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: couple of years about it.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's important.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: They yeah, well, it just will help him to understand
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: why he thinks the way he thinks about things. And
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I would hate for it to affect his relationships later
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: in life by not getting ahead of it now.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like having you know, like the way
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: you had Bunny, the way I have my wife. It's like, man,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know where. I don't know if I was
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: able to even handle like the level of like fatherhood
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: that came with trying to make it while also keeping
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: this kid right on the right tracks. You know what
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? So deep?
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: No, that's deep. Thanks for sharing that. I'll get the
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: name of that book though. Man, that book is it's
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: it's incredible.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: I remember when I first looked at it, I was like,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: this doesn't look like children of adult children. Of adult
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: alcoholics or something like that, adult children of our adult
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: children of alcoholics, is it?
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Or something like that.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: You're on this health kick right now? How many I
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: think I heard you say you lost about sixty pounds?
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Hundred pounds? Well, congratulations, I'm at a legit hundred.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: I'm at a legit hundred from my like kind of
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: a little bit more than a hundred from what my
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: biggest was. I'm down eighty or ninety this year.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: It's amazing. I remember the last time, because I remember
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: was about twenty sixteen, seventeen, you had lost a lot
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: of weight.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Yep, and back this time I got to keep it off.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's it's crazy because I was talking
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: with Big X the Plug about this because I was like, hey, man,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: like you're like Big X the Plug, but like we
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: also want you to be here, right. Do you worry
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: about like your image of what the public knows you
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: as being wrapped into being like a heavier guy.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Man, I'm gonna lose the weight and I'm gonna break
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: the curse.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Because there is a quote.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Actor curse of actors who lost weight that couldn't find work,
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: but there's also actors that lost weight and found more work,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But if that is a
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: quote unquote curse, I'm gonna break it. Me and my
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: wife actually talked about this real deep one night recently,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: because she she knows whenever I get the eye of
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: the tiger in me, she's seen it before. Now we've
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: been together long enough that she's like, oh, I know
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: my husband, he's not gonna stop to his weights off,
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: like when he really dials in this, dude's fixing it
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: completely shed this And she was like, well, you know,
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: do you have a plan sustainable to keep it off?
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: She just being a good woman, you know what I mean,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: just having real conversations with me, And she goes, are
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: you worried about any criticism?
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: And I was like a little bit. I was like,
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I know that, I know how this works. Like they're
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: gonna even though I'm losing the weight in front of everybody,
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: They're still going to like, there's still gonna be some
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: people like, well, of course he took the shot.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I never took a shot. Yeah.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: It's like it's like they're not not that I'm against
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: those in picks. My doctor thinks it's great. I'm just
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: personally not. I'm afraid of stuff like that.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: I did drugs for so long. I like putting weird
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: shit in my body on one fair enough.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: But I'm not saying I won't do it. But you
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: know it's I can still see her. I can imagine
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: that I'm about another seventy eighty pound. I got another
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: goal to lose a lot more weight. And they'll come
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: a point where they'll start saying I look sick, you know,
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: and I'm cool with I'm just me. And her talked
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: about it, and she was so honest. She was like, good,
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to make sure it didn't hurt your feelings.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I was like, no, I'm not.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: The difference is I think a lot of people make
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: the mistake of going and hiding and getting healthy and
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: then coming out healthy, you know what I mean.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Where it's like instead of doing it in front of everybody,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: so they see that.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Like watch the daily rolls and I put them on
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: my Instagram every day. It's like just what we're doing
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: in life. And I'm not going to be one of
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: them weird people that loses a bunch of weight and
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: it becomes my identity.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Neither right, like I feel better.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk about it because it's going to always
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: be the elephant in the room. But it's like, I
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: feel better, I'm thinking clearer, and uh, it's just it's
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: one part of what I do every day is I
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: now eat better, I fight my my food addiction demon,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: and I work out. It's just but it's still makes
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: very little of who I am.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: As a human.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, only making who I am as a human better.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: I'm only becoming a better human as I'm getting healthier.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: What for you like talk about just like because you know,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: for anybody who's friends with you, you've always been at
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: a recreational relationship with certain substances. But for you, like,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: you know, just being around you the last like six
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: seven months, I've noticed like you're like you've like calmed
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: down a lot when it comes to I mean obviously
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: we'll drink sometimes, but was there like a breaking point
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: for you where you're like, yo, I gotta kind of
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: kick back a little.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I could not drink the way I was drinking and
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: keep up with this schedule.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because dude, you're the tequila god.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I drink. I don't drink a lot, but when I
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: drink I drink a lot.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Sure, I am legend with people. It gets it is crazy,
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: but yeah, I just couldn't drink. I just man, I'm
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: so like.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I have one. I started implementing a little like adult
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: forty year old rules.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Now that are like, I don't drink unless I have
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: a full day off the next day, just in case
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: it's the way I like to drink and I haven't.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Had a full day off.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: It.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, backed up to a night that it made sense
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: to drink in a long time night or something like
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: we were we were thinking about it, like the iHeartRadio
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: Awards was like one of those magical nights where we
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: won an award that we're celebrating and had nothing to
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: do the next day.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: It was like.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Score, we know we got blacked out that night.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Buba for sure, because when I like.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: That was wasn't that the name you fell in the pond?
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: I fear of the hotel splashed around? No, It's like, dude,
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: those are the like if I'm gonna go out and party,
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: I party that way and the next day it falls
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: real recovery from Yeah, I gotta drink certain water, drink
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: eat food, get in asana, getting I be I'm old.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: I just don't have it no more. So it's like,
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm just more I'm more in love
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: with the pace of.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: The work I'm doing right now, we're working at a
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: way different pace. Man.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy too, man, just to see the production,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Like how many people are employed on this tour? One
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty something that's insane.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Twenty two trucks, sixteen buses. Bro, Like, it's crazy, huge production.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: That's so crazy, so fun though, Like so many people's
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: livelihoods are in this building and connected to you going
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: on that stage and doing your You're out, And that's.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: Not counting the one hundred plus locals every night, another
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: one hundred vendors.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Right, you know what I mean. So that shit's crazy.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: I'm curious.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Really, you got your bar coming yes in Nashville, which
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: is I can't wait to like how far along is
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: that process?
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Oh it's there, dude, they went the other day. It's
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: framed out, it's ready. We should be open top of
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: the year sometime early.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: So you already got the least together and all that.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Oh no, at least, I mean, dude, this building is
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: being has been getting rebuilt for the last eight months.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Oh wow from scratch.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this has been a.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: They kept the frame of the building because it was
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: an old concrete built in the nineteen twenties concrete style,
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: but then they just framed wood inside of it. But
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: she had no completely remodeled the whole thing. Really really
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: did it the right way.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Yo. This guy and this company we're with is like
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: really really good at what they do. Are you are you?
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: You know them from Phoenix? You know what I'm working with?
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Right the bottle blinde? Oh ship? Yeah, they got a
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: great place. Got they got a bunch of great spots. Yeah,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I'm working.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Oh that's gonna be crazy and they're gonna be great
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: to put everywhere.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah that God? Will you know what I mean? Hey, hey, holler,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: I'd love to expand. I love it.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Man, let me tell you, I want to touch this.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: For a second, I said it. It kind of glossed over
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: and on, Joe. But I'm the first.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Of course, Steve and his son BT owned most of
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Broadway and their locals. They're real Nashville people, like for
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: real Steve Smith and BT. But as a as an artist,
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: I'm the first real Nashville guy to get a bar.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: It's a big deal. Man.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know, I don't feel entitled to
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: very Broadway. Yeah, I don't feel entitled to very much.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: But like being a local, It's like.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I feel like I feel local.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: That was my only complaint when I didn't think I'd
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: ever be in the runnings for one. I'd be like,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: let Chris Young get one or Cadillac three or Ernest Like,
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: let a local get one.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've done the the opry, You've got a
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: bar on Broadway. I think the next thing is owning
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: a piece of the Titans.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: I would love to own. Hey, miss Samy, Me and
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Miss Amy, your friends even hang out with the other day.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Just give me a little skin in the game.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Amy, I'll give you some money and I'll stay out
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: of the business completely. Miss Amy, I just love to
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: you know what's crazy I talk about that. I mean,
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: the only way it happens is if she'd ever let
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: me buy into the team, and I'd take I.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Would take whatever she'd give you. But of course I
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: would have never dreamed of that. Man. But Eric Church
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: is kind of a mentor to me.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: And Eric Church owns a piece of the Charlotte Hornets.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Wow, like a real piece.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: And it's a true story. And I heard Kenny Chesney
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: is trying to work out a deal with a with
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: his dream. I think has been always work out with
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: mister craft. Something for the Patriots from a lifelong Patriots
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: fan got.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Me So Tom brook Brady just brought up a piece
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: of the fucking Raiders.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Tom got him a little piece.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Give me that little deal, you know what I mean?
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: They got him a deal where he's not allowed to nothing.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: He just got a little piece of the team. And
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: that's it, you know what I mean.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Yo. I know there was a lot of big dream
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: big dreams.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I know there was a lot of features that almost
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: happened for the album. Is there anybody who you weren't
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: able to because you have some great features on this album,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Hawsey Russ, Uh shit, I'm forgetting Skylar Gray, Ernest, anybody, Yeah,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: anybody who you're like ya, I got this. I got this,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Like there's two or three of these motherfuckers. I just
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: got to do something with that. Just it just didn't
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: work out this time.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, I mean for me, just like my list of
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: people out want to work with or I still want
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: to work with, like Miley really bad. She's from Tennessee?
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: What not from Tennessee? Always I like make her claim Tennessee.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know she probably you know, but I know
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: that they have Tennessee roots. Of course Sissa. I think
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: Siss is like everything about her Lizzo just what they
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: them is people. And you know what I mean, she
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: is so special. She is such a gift from God. Man,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: she is so grounded and the music is so.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: I hey, how are you.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: There's a special delivery? Sorry sorry, A nice a nice
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: young lady.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: But and you know she's Sciss is great also because
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: of outside of the writing, the music, the rollouts are crazy,
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: the labels I mean, but.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Man, her artistry is just different. Right.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: I love when you know people are putting in the
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: work and you can't watch Sissa do anything thing live,
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: whether it's an award show or an actual concert without
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: it just reeking of her putting tens.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Or hundreds of hours into into it. Yeah you know
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: what I mean. Like not the craft itself, you can
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: tell she spent tens of thousands there, but I mean
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: in individual you see her on an award show, like
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: the Grammys, and you're like, dude, I bet she spent
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: one hundred hours working on this, you know what I mean,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: You're like real hours stand here and working on the court,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, I think we waited for five years.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: For albums and she don't miss man, because if you
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: take that long to put out an album. You know
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: this in our business is inside baseball right here. But
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: there's an old joke that says, uh, the longer you sit,
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: the bigger the hit, you know what I mean, Like,
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: the longer you sit out, you better have that much
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: bigger of a hit, you know what I mean, Like
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: when you do come back. Adele's the queen of that,
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: by the way, coming when she wants but never missing.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Apparently, Dell would be a dream dream scenario. The weekend.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: The weekend would be my true, true, true buck. I
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: think he's the greatest artist this generation.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just, I just, I just not the number
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: one artist in the world for by default. No, he
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: makes my favorite music too, I.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Mean, yeah, great shots of the weekend. I just met
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: him in at the iHeart of iHeart festival and it
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: feels like a fan of my work. Really, he was like, Yo,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I just want you to know, like, uh, like it
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: seems like everything you do is like from a genuine
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: good place. You feel like you got a good spirit.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: If Abel said something like that to me, I know.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: It was crazy because and we just started talking about
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: like we talked for like twenty minutes.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Did you gets a fuck?
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: It was just cool as fuck. And then he was
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: like yeah, he was like, yo, dude, you look like
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: you're like talking.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: If I could have a thirty minute conversation with anybody,
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: it would be be him or James.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Taylor Man or Seeger see.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: One of them three Seager, Taylor, Abel. It's yeah, that'd
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: be a dream feature for me though. Man, I'm a
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: huge weekend fan.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about these you mentioned, adell, these
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: memes that are going around that you're the adele.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: For uh fort Drivers. Man, dude, I'm just glad. I'm
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: just dude. Can you believe I've become a mame?
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I mean you know what they've got so
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: many are they called gifts or gifts?
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: I think it's a gift.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: I think it's a it's a gift.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: So yeah, they got they got gifts of me. Now, yeah,
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: it's really cool.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're You're like I've said this to other people,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: but I'll say to you you are on your way
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: to being And I don't mean musically in any sense,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: because I think you have a lot. You're gonna be
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: like the white Snoop Dogg hope. And I mean that
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: in the terms of, like, oh.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: My god, Snoop Dogg announced I'm on this album. Oh
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: we can.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: Talk about this, Snoops on the album. You're He announced it,
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: so I think I'm allowed to talk about it. We
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: cut this, I'm not okay, but he announced it. It sounds
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: like it should be fair Gun and the records dope, Dude,
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: it is crazy. I won't say anything about the record
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: because he didn't, but man, it's special.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: It's really good.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Him and the Him and Dre shit.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, the Hum and Dre album. Dog, I'm legitimately on
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: the Snoop dog and Doctor Dre outm It's crazy.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Who reaches out for that?
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Ian Oh ship dude.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Jimmy hits John and says, can we get on a
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: FaceTime with Jelly Rowland Drake And I'm like, Doctor Dre.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, so listen, I get on a FaceTime
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: on my back porch. I'm like a kid. Jimmy's there
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: and I'm already like I cannot believe.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: This is Jimmy.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: He goes, oh, there goes on Dre coming.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: There goes Dre now. And you can see that the
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: cameras wiggling a little bit, so you could tell he's
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: walking in the frame, and you could tell that they
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: do that, you know that this is there still. They
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: could tell they're still this close. So it was just
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: super cool.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: And he sits down and they're just like yo, and
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: he's like, I got this crazy idea and.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, dude, this is doctor Dray.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: And then he's like so it gets even cooler and
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: he's like, I can send you something, or you can
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: write something and send it back, or you can come
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: here and we can write something something. When he said that,
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: I was like, I don't there's no way he expected
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: me to do any other option. I was like, if
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: coming and writing with you is the option, I'm coming.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: So you went. I went, and you worked with Dre
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: and person.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: I worked with Dre in person.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: At his house. Yes, yeah, because that's why we were I mean,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: I heard that it's it's.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: We're gonna say at his studio, but yeah, but yeah
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: it was. It was cool.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody I heard the speakers are crazy.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Listen dog.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Now that I've worked with Eminem and doctor Dre, when
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: you work with people that big, they're the only two
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: people I'm scared to talk about, like when it's like
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: how did that go? But I mean like being like
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know what I can and came to you
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, They're that famous and that legendary.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: But uh, it was the most awesome session ever. Dude,
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: I walked in. Dre was just like the biggest, most
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: warm hug. I went by myself completely, So I mean
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: I pull up solo, walk in solo, and then we
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: go down to like the dungeon and it's just a vibe.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: We're in there right and immediately start just like no hesitation,
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: we just start writing it just immediately. Me and the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: people that were already working on the record immediately got
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: it together and you could just feel that like it
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: was really fun because I felt like I earned their
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: respect kind of early in the process.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: So I had a moment where I was like, all right.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: Cool, I'm holding Yeah, It's like because I knew when
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: you walk in those rooms, I'm still the kid that's
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: coming to wrap at the lunch table, like I want
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: to prove that I just deserve to be at the table.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: And uh I came in with that kind of attitude. Man,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: it was really cool. We hung out, wrote stayed there
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: for a few hours. I mean, we chatted. Is he
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: by the way, Kendrick Lamar pop out of just having okay,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: So I'm getting like when I say just happened, I'm
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: his first session.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: After that, I'm.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Getting all getting I'm getting all that energy. You know,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: all these people in the room together for the first
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: time too, So I'm getting all this energy.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: So it was really it was special. Man. Is he directed?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Because I heard he's like a perfectionist dude, so he
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: directed your takes perfectionist.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you about Drey. This dude, he's doctor
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: Dre for a reason. But he's incredible. He's a conductor
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: of a symphony in there, and he hears everything in everything,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: and he hears it twenty different ways. And he'll like
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: put his ears up to these two speakers and you'll
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: start to sing and he'll be like a little sharp
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: you were flat on the word d you were a
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: little sharp on the word, and like he is man,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: it's like not a perfectionist in like a picky asshole
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: way and like a super encouraging like now you got
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: that in your baby just a little bit like right here,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: and I hit it like this, Now give me one
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: choice like this to work with. Like he makes you
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: feel like a rock star too, So you also get
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: why he's good at this because he's clearly correcting me
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: and getting what he wants out of me, but doing
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: it while like making me feel like I'm like Adele.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: I'm over here feeling like for a forklift, you know
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: I'm over here feeling like fucking Frank Ocean right like
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: I'm killing it, you know what I mean.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Snoop was not around.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: Snoop was not there, Okay, saddest part of the whole
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: story is that Snoop wasn't there.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think I could have took it though.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: I just feel like I couldn't.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Have walked into Snoop Dogg and Doctor.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Drape famous in like twenty years where it doesn't matter what,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: like you're just gonna be, You're gonna have five TV shows,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be hosting the Olympics.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: I'll receive that. I would be honored, kind of would
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: love it. Noop is definitely a model, a career after
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: kind of guy.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Yo, it's give me some of the inside baseball on
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: you know, when we talk about the music industry, You've
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: seen so many facets of it. You've been independent, you've
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: done distro deals. Uh, you know, you're you're with your
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: label now, but you still you still own everything, right,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: It's still it's like a partnership. Would it for you
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: would be you know, the like number one thing you
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: could point to that you were able to kind of
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: do in the last two or three years that is
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: like applicable for other artists who are watching this, whether
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: it's like learning something new or changing an attitude towards everything,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: or something on the business side, maybe bringing in the
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: right people maybe, you know, because sometimes as an independent
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: artist you don't think you need as much help as
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: you do. But now you have a team, like a
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: real team, you know.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I could definitely say that the biggest difference
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: was really getting with a label, like honestly, not because
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: of the machine as much as people like I used
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: to be the guy who like rage like the machine, right,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: but more so just having an infrastructure of people who
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: are working all day delicately towards what you're ever.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: We all got the same goal.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: We all got the same goal is to try to
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: get this music in front of as many people as possible.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: And it's been really, really, really cool. But I can
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: also tell everybody this man, that it's I truly believe
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: that what makes music and art so special is that
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: it can be done so many different ways. So do
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: it the way that your heart is convicted to do it.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: Like for me, my heart was convicted to try to
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: get my message to critical mass. Like I felt like
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: what I was saying was so unspoken for in mass
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: media and in critical mass, meaning like the masses quote unquote,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: that I wanted to do whatever I could to try
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: to get that message there, and that the deal, the
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: percentage was worth doing that deal and the stress that
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: comes with it too, also the attention, you know what
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, Like there's a whole new work schedule, Like
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: you know, there's.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Also like a whole new way you have to move.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: Man, Everything about my life is different, Everything about my
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: life is different. I'll be the first one to admit that,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: but it was a sacrifice that I wanted to make
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: to try to get the message out.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? But man that you know
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: there's other artists that do it otherwise.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: Me and you were talking about how much we love
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: the way Rod Waves operates, like he just wakes up
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: and he's like.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: You know what, the album's done, let's put it out.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: And then he puts it out and goes in towards it,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: and then you don't hear from him again until he weekends.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: The same way.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: Able is the I am. We've talked about this privately
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: a bunch, but I love I am such a fan
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: of people that do it different than how I do
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: it because I'm like most people. You know, why this something?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: I'll this this good one. I used when everybody says
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: comparison is a thief of joy. I used to always
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: look at the way other people would do things, and
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: if they did it different than me, I had a
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: natural that was the wrong way to do.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: It, that you were doing it the wrong way. They
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: were doing that.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: Somebody had to be wrong. There's no way that both
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: could be right correct. And now I've realized that there's
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: like I let go that was all ego.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: There's no rules.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Now I look like there's no rules man.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: It's like whatever your conviction is, to do it, whatever
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: way you want to do it.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: That actually works for you. You know.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: It's uh, what the best news I ever heard from
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: a trainer. When I sat down with Ian and Uh,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: we were talking about getting my weight together, and I
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: was like, what kind of diet are.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: We going on? It's like the one that you'll eat mmmm,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: And I was like huh.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, man, all that stuff is like, yeah,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: does keto work for sure? But can you eat carbs
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: and still lose weight?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: For sure?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: Can you do all this? It really comes down to
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: what you will stick to, the moderation you're willing to
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: eat at. If you want to eat nothing but shitty foods,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: we can really make that figure out. You're gonna have
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: to eat a lot less because this is a calorie
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: in calorie.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: But when he put that to me, it's like, I
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: feel that same way I walk through life with that.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: I used to walk through life like this, keV. Everything
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: that I had I held like this, and it served
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: me none at all. It only worked against me. I
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: learned I walked through life like this. I don't hold
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: none of that stuff like this no more, you know
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: what I mean. I don't have none of those I
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: don't have No. I'm not hammered to one ideology. I'm
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: open to listen to any interpretation anybody has of anything,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: to see if I can gain anything from it at
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: any moment. I'm not like that overly committed anything at
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: any point anymore.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think you like you're on a
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: record with Russ. There's a kid named love Russell. Have
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: you heard of the Russell? Yeah, like the Russell's. He's
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: doing this pay what you want live show thing, and
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: it's like, I've never seen anybody do that.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: It's work, dude.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: It's like, go do it the way that you want
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: to do it, the way Russell has done it. I
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: love watching people that do it their own way.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: I chose to write songs about it, stuff that I
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: grew up experiencing, and I chose to go out and
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: beat the drum about it like this. You know, that's
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: just the way I chose to go about it. Yo.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: When you write some of these records, man, like it
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: feels like like you know what I think about like
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: the records you got with Skyler that is going crazy
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: on TikTok right now after you get down recording that,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: like you wear that on you for a little bit,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: Like that's a really like that's a crazy Oh.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, we have sessions. Man, you know you don't
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: You're not writing the right song if you don't leave
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: a piece of it there. Yeah of you there, you.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: Know what I mean, if there's not a part of
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: you that it doesn't stir your soul. The songs that
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: mean the most to me are the ones that sit
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: on my phone and bother me that they're not out,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: Like this was one of those songs. The Skylar record
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: was like the song with Keith Urban Believe it or not,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: was like I just could not quit singing that and
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: don't mean I don't taste and crave it in every
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: corner of my mind right Like that line for whatever reason,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: just stuck with me in such a way that I
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: was like, if we don't put this song out, like
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: one of my favorite songs ever. Look it up from
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: Red Quick Gooch. You always blow the girl's name wrong, Jamie,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: She's got the two Am song at.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: Two am and I'm still away writing this song. I
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: get it all down on paper, it's no longer inside
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: of me.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: Two am song.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called just Breathe two am, Just breathe good.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear it. Yeah. And she has
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: a line that goes.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: The end of the song goes two am. And I'm
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: still awake writing this song. If I get it all
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: out on paper, it's no longer inside of me, threatening
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: the life.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: It belongs to.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: Wow, arguably greatest lyric ever written in a song. I've
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: been arguing this with people all the time, and whatever
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: I mean. There's a lot of other lyric you know,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: I could there's other, but like, as a songwriter, I
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: don't think anybody's ever encapsul how I feel in one
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: sentence ever Better then, like songs like past Yesterday drive
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: me crazy because I know that they belong to someone
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: else and I have to get them out.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: They're not for me.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: I have a lot of songs that are for me
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: that will never make it, that are just wasn't either
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: written well enough, I just never wrote, or just they
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: were for.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Me, you know what I mean. But this song, when
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: it's really not for you, those are those kinds of songs.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Man, yo, because you have this Like you know, when
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: I was watching the Hulu documentary when it came out,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: there was a part where I don't know if it
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: was a grandmother and a daughter, you were approached backstage,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: and I forget the exact interaction that ended up happening
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: between you and these two fans, but it may like
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: brought tears to the minds. It was like so crazy, But
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: I can only imagine for you that's like every day, right,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: like there's people out here with signs of you know,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: maybe a kid that overdose store.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: This is like if I remember that right, that story
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: was a murder suicide, yeah, little girl.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: It was something.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: It was just a lot, but uh, it was one
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: of the one of the hardest stories I've ever heard.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: I do hear that stuff a lot.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: I just feel honored that I can help people in
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: such a moment. I'm very empathic, so I feel it.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: I definitely feel it.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: How do you turn off that because you also kind
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: of like, you know, you have your own shit to
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: worry about, so it's like, you know, you're having all
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: these deep interactions with people, you see, how the whether
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: even if it's online like the TikTok response to your record,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: it's so crazy.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: I'm encouraged by it too, though, because I think that
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: it's like creating conversations.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: Whenever I spoke about Finton all that, Whenever I went
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: to the Grammys two weeks later, everybody on the red
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: carpet want to just tell me their story about a
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: family member they had. You know, it's like that kind
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: of vulnerability because I think once we start letting people
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: tell their stories, like I don't know how many times
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: you share the story about your son and your podcast.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: And it's zero.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you see what I'm saying, Like, now there's somebody
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: who's been watching you for years that's gonna see that,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: and like it's gonna impact them different because they're gonna
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: be like, damn, man.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Him, damn.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Like it's gonna hit different with people.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: So like me, creating that kind of vulnerability where people
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: will have these kind of conversations is Man.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's what I'm actually really here for.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Pose.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: I think that's truly what my purpose is.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: The music and me talking is just a vessel. The
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: music is just a vessel to create these conversations with
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: people that normally wouldn't be had, you know what I mean,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: Because now it's like there's we've You've brought a human
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: element to it.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: So Vester Stallone, you said it was the first person
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: that commented congrats on the album.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: The first person first comments.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: Sulton King slides the best shout out to the Stallone sisters. Systeine,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: Yes they are. They came to the show. Is it
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: Sophia or Sophia. I think it's Sophie Sophie Stallone or
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: is it Sophia Stallone? But it's and Sofia and the
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: sweetest girls ever, so humble. You never think they grew up,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: Sophia Custine and Sophia Stallone. You would never know they
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: were like they just don't act like Sylvester Stallone's kids.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: They just act like two like really humble, cool kids,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I say kids like
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: cause I'm forty and they're in their twenties. Probably you
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. But they were so sweet.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: Sistine loved Bunny. This is how Bunny changes my life.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: As always found me through Bunny. Then seeing they had
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: a documentary about me on Hulu, it was like, oh well,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: this is Bunny's husband, let's see what this is about.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: Loves it, and then like Cistine being a true champion,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: thank you for this forever. Sisteine rallies her family around
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: one night like, hey, y'all gott to watch this. This
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: is a crazy documentary, you know what I mean. And
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: then they watched the documentary too, so from there on
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: they were just like and then how the world works
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: fast forward. David Glasser is a producer for One on
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: One Studios. Met him at State Age Coach. We've been
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: friends ever since, like talk all the time. It was
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: so cool because he was like one of those dudes.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: It was like just super nice and humbly and he's like,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: I know I don't talk to people, but I just
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: want to come say we love your music. And my
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: wife his wife was the sweetest woman ever, and he
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I produced television, man, we should just
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: you know, whatever, man, anything I can ever do to help,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: I'd love to help. We just kind of parted ways.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: I didn't think much about it. I text him and
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: I was like, hey, good to meet you man. He's like, yeah,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: lock me in. I'm David glass for One on one
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: Studios And at that point, I kind of copy and
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: paste and see this guy is and I'm like, he
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: does all my favorite shows. So then I hit him like, yo,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be a super whirdo here, but like,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: I think Mike McClusky is one of I think he's
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: the new Tony soprano. Right, you watch this show The
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: King's Down, Yeah, for sure, I think Mike McClusky is
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: like and then I'm like right, And then he does
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: Yellowstone and.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: Then they do I haven't watched any of I haven't
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: watched any of the Yellowstone spinoffs, but yeah, it's crazy.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: So then we get to talk about Tulsa King and
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: he just can tell I won't shut up about it
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: because I'm just like, this.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: Show is so well thought out. I was like, Sophster
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Stallone is back, like he never left. I'm just like,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: this show it could do. This show is fire.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: It's great show.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: I don't care who you are.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: Now, Plut's got some heat.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: You go sit down and watch fucking Tulsa King and
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: tell me I ain't one of the best shows on TV.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: You're fucking litw you know what I mean? It is
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: so good.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: So he was like yeah, and what's so cool about
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: David was, h go back to our Paul Rosenberg conversation.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: People who just have your back and are men of
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: their word. Paul told me how my back ten years ago,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: and fuck kept over for ten years. David goes, oh, dude,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: we're shooting the next season in Atlanta. Just drive down
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: one day at least come hang out on set. Maybe
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: we'll get you in the show. But I'd love to
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: introduce you to sly. So when he calls Slash, I
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: was like, my daughter, Maam, he watched the show. I
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: love this guy. Put him on the phone right now.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: Let's put him in the show. And immediately, you know it,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: like calls me and U slides such a creative on
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: that show. When he facetimes me, cam Ford him put
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: us on the phone together. As soon as he face
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: times cam Cam hands me the phone. I'm in my
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: Dunkin Donut commercial, so I'm already having a weird day.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: I'm like, this is crazy. I'm doing a Dunkin Donut
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: commercial right now. And Sylvester Stalon's on the FaceTime and uh,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: He's like, this is my idea, and he shoots his
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: idea at me right then on the phone. I'm like,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna like, mistake you for a janitor, and we're
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: gonna like, let me put some egg on my face.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: It'll be funny. I'm gonna set you up to you
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. It was really cool. It was like.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: I hate to keep circling back to previous conversations, but
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: I love podcasts that have themes. It's like Austin theory.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: Like I realized right then that Sylvester Stallone putting you over,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: he just was putting me over, dude. He just wanted
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: me to look as good as I could, you know
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: what I mean, And like he was just in a
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: place where that's what his heart was.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: And I'll forever clip.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: This and send this to me so I can send
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: this to him and his family because thank you forever.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: Selvestro. Acting next, I want to do it so bad. Yeah,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: I want to do it so well.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna just move to LA and try
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: get a little acting coach and stand in line.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: You're gonna get typecasted like a motherfucker.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: And the prison, Oh, I'm gonna be every fucking But
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: you know what I told him, I was like, if
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: they ever knew the prisoner of a Mary Kingstown. I'll
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: be a prisoner for y'all. Oh yeah, Now i'd go
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: to play a cricket cop or real cop.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: A crookeedt cop would be fun.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: Oh I might get in trouble for telling this story.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you ever seen the rookie the ricky? No
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: rookie on a Oh the rookie no like her family.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm aware of the show like a dramed
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: I'm aware of the show. Yeah.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: Me and my wife and daughter watch it all the time.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: I was gonna get to be on this season, dude.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: I had the coolest scene ever. I wasn't jelly rolled.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: I was like something else. I was gonna go get
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: to be on the watch be a part of my
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: favorite show. And I thought. I had a gallbladder attack
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: the night the day before we flew to the point
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: that I went to the hospital and I missed the scene.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, but that's the next thing to try to tackle. Yeah,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: man acting.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, dude, that's like my daughter like, bust my
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: balls about that.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: Now, when you do a twenty eight song project, you
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: have a lot of songs to work, So I feel like,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: is it safe to say that this album is gonna
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: live with us for a little bit.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: I can tell you that I'm not an you know,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: we were talking about the artists that take their time to
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: put out albums.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take my time to put.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Out my next album. Yeah.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: I hope Beautifully Broken can suffice people for a while
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: because I'm gonna go get I'm gonna do some acting.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna really focus on now. M hm, you're getting
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: good stuff today for me.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: My next goal, too, is that the next hundred pounds
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: I want to lose a little different than the first hundred.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: The first hundred was just head down, eat right, drink water, exercise,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: get it off. I want to start lifting. I want
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: to make sure that when I do lose the next
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: hundred pounds out of the body. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: look I don't want to look weird.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: So so that's the next thing.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: That's the next thing. Focus on health, focus on acting,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: and really slow rite the albums.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, dude, it's it feels like an album
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: full of singles.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty crazy to go.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: Just keep working this album, man, take it slow, just
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: keep pushing Beautifully Broken. Festivals only next year and travel abroad.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Yo U would you obviously? And you're not gonna stop
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: doing features though, like the go to feature. I feel
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: like you're becoming like a go to guy.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: Kel told me I was the White Way, and in twenty.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: Eleven, it's what it's feeling that way, That's what MGK said.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: I loved him for it, but uh now, I'm always up.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: I'm a collaborative guy. So somebody, especially if a friend
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: of mine or somebody I really adore sends me a record,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: I'm always in.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: Would you ever do another?
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: Whaling?
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: And Willie would Struggle.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: And Struggling are definitely gonna do another. We got a
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: single coming out next year that we're gonna go to
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: the country radio with his single feature of meat Fire.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: He's I'm proud of struggle Man one. He's just he's
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: putting out a great body of work right now. He's
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: fixing to go out on tour. Struggles just always work
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: and he's been I didn't get him on this album,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: and it was kind of intentionally. I've had him on
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: every album I've ever done, and I think that I
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: wanted to let him have. He toured with me last year, yep,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: and we intentionally was like, Yo, take a year, go
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: out there and you know what I mean.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: And and and kind of like grab grab your people in.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: For sure, like go out there and plan because you
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: haven't even got to go plan this flag yetty and
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: so with and then he'll go do a couple of
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: headliners himself with his artists like Caitlyn Curtis and them,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: but he hasn't, like, you know, I'm such a I'll
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: block off half that dude schedule every year with my
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: ship for sure, you know what I mean. So it's like, dude,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: go go keep building, drop money, Carlo, drop these records
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: that you've been working on El Camino, Drop money Carlo
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: and uh, and then we'll double back around and catch
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: a Weathering and Willy probably in the next year, next
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: couple of years. Could you see he'll go on my next,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: my next, my next American tours a year after the
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: next twenty six he'll be up for me for sure.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take them abroad wherever I can, wherever I
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: can get.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Could you see yourself doing another hip hop album?
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't I don't have If
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: you get you you'd have to probably get the itch
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: right like something I'd have to really, yeah, something would
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: like and I would spend a lot of time thinking
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: about what the subject matter was.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: I wrapped about certain things for so long that I
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: wouldn't even know how to. And I was always so
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: honest in my raps that I don't know if I
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: would even be allowed that kind of honesty right now
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: in my life, you know.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: Yo, I mean, I don't know. I just don't know. Man,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: I don't have the itch at all. Well, we're talking
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: about this some people's hearts out there.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: There's so much money, there's so many deals.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: I would rather do a hook for Big Exes album,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: which I'm working on. Oh so you're I'm working on
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: a Big X record. I would rather do something for
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: Mexican O T. I would rather work with Joiner again.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: I would rather work with him again.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: That makes sense.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: I would rather like keep I think I'm bringing more
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: value to hip hop right now than I ever brought
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: to hip hop.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: And I hadn't wrapped a bar in five years.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: So it's like, I think I just want to keep
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: doing that because I think I'm really I want to
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: do another Tech nine record. I want to make sure
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: that I want to I want to help hip hop
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: and them, I think I don't think I would help
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: hip hop by trying to be hip hop.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Well, and I think too like you're like, like you said,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: you're doctor d calls, You're I mean you're to me,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: you're you're a pretty genrealist man. I feel like you've
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: kind of always been that way.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: So it's like sure, and like that's a big one,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, that's huge, Like to work
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: with somebody like Rod now you know what I mean,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: like goa happen. But yeah, that's my heart. Maybe one
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: day I'd love to wrap on somebody else's stuff for fun.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: I always joke with all my rapper homies like if
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: you ever get one, it really makes sense, you know
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: what I mean, maybe like slide a little sneaky twelve
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: in somewhere and see if I still got it.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: Yo, it's can you can you speak?
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: Struggle could get it out of I mean struggle at him.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: They could get it out of the probably maybe Wolf, Yeah,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: Wolf could get it out of him. Yeah. But but
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: once again, I think I would do Wolf more by like.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: Trailer in the Skyhook, which was great. Wolf wrapped and
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: I did. I just think I bring more value to
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: the song by doing what I do.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is whild Do you still have a ton
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: of those Day One like fans who maybe because you know,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: you are a part of this like underground hip hop
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: uh world that was very niche. It was like and
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: I was a part of that world, you know, with
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: Ritz and Wolf and yourself, and you know, we can
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: go on and on and on. I guess like what
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: would call that kind of like the white the like
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: twenty ten white rapper.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was an air underground like rapper things.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: Everybody was going all the famous white rappers are going
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: at each other. But it's like, like, do you still
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: see those same things because you were talking about back
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: in the day you would give pizza in Knoxville to
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: the people standing outside when you'd sell out, and you're like, yo,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: we should do that again. But like, do you still
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: run into those crazy like Day one fans who?
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah all the time? Man, they're awesome. I went
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: to the DMV. I was home. I've been home two
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: days in the last one hundred days. They were just
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: like four days ago.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: Walking to the DMV, I've been in there thirty seconds, right,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: and I'm just looking for somebody I know to go Hey,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: it's not letting me set this up online. I'm only
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: in town for a day. I need to bring my
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: daughter to get a license, which I am proud to
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: announce on the Bootleg CAF podcast. My sixteen year old daughter,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: Bailey Anne, is now a licensed driver.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Congrats, it's a huge deal. Thank you, A huge deal.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: So I walk in, the first person I see is
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: a dude with a Jelly Roll shirt. Not making this up.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: First dude, I mean. I run into him and I'm like,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: what's up.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: He's like David.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's ghost white. You could tell he's like
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: been with me a long time. He immediately shows me
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: like a a game bad Apple blended tag like my
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: sorry two of like the original brands that we tried
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: to take off. And uh, He's like, I got a
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: brother in the car and you meet him. I was like, yell,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: let me go talk to this person. I meet him
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: on the way out. So I take a couple of
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: pictures and I meet the DMV people are so sweet,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: too many girl I know. Immediately gets with the manager
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: I know, and they hooked me up what I needed.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: I leave and I meet his brother on the way out,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: and his brother goes, now, you don't get me wrong,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: I like this album of years, but when you're gonna
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: drop some.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: Of that good good shit again?
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: And I go, good good shit, you know, and he goes,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about? This stuffs and he shook,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: I need you to do something with Haystack.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: He was like, He's like, I'm talking about it, and
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: I said, listen, man, don't take this wrong, sir. I
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: don't want to sound like Andre three thousand. I'm get
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: in trouble here, but at a forty years old would
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: as soon to be college kid, I'm not sure what
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: I would rap about, you know what I mean. I'm
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: not sure that people would even want to hear what
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: I rapped about.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Right now. It's like, you know what I mean, Like,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna rap about slanging freaking crack, yeah, for sure.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: Like slaming pussy, you know what I mean. Those days are.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: It's like, it's like, you know, I'm not gonna rap
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: about I don't know. I guess I could rap about
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: what's happening in my life now, but I'm kind of
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know. I'm having more.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: Fun telling other people's stories. Yeah, and I don't.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: I've never done that in hip hop. I've only kind
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: of expressed self, so I'd have to find my way
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: into it.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: Are you still when you have you know your background
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: that you have and I'm sure a friend group of
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: a certain you know amount of people who may or
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: may not be up to criminal activities. You know, when
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: you come from that lifestyle, you fall out with people.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: But when you have this meteoric rise to fame, it
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: feels like the people who are closest to you or
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: where you're from, usually in hip hop, of course worse,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: you get the most hate from you know, you didn't
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: bring me up with you, do you?
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: Like, how do you deal with that shit? Doug, Because
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: like even me and on whatever level of success I have,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: I deal with that shit all the time.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: Man. It's it's really hard. It hurts.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: Thanks for bringing this up because it's probably one of
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: the thorns on my side of life that it took
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: me a while to forgive myself for not being able
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: to do everything for everybody. But somebody told me you
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: can't be everything to everybody, you know what I mean?
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: And I just started forgiving myself and giving myself grace
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: you know where it's like. Look, man, if you think
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: that I'm responsible for bringing somebody up, your mentality is wrong.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: Anyways.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I remember been a time where my entire
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: world felt like it relied on the actions of another man.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: You know, does that make sense?
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: That's not the way to go through life.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: If you if your success is dependent on anybody at all,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: you were in the wrong. You're in the wrong area
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: searching for it. So if you're looking for a homie
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: to do this for you, or you got your buddy
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: that's doing this, that he might be able to give
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: you a look, or this guy might be able to
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: do this for you. If you're one of those people,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: that mentality is going to tear you down. That's that
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: street stuff that tourists down for years. It's also the
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: same street stuff that'll have you. I was thinking about
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: this the other day, that the streets will train you
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: to let somebody come in your house and shoot your
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: child and you not call the police on them.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: Think about just now, that I'm an adult, and I
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: even say that back out loud, I go, how did
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: I believe that? How did I buy into that, you
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, how did I even let
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: that become a thought? All that stuff works hand in
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: hand to me. All that is, all of those are
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: the same language. The other languages I look for now
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: that I'm very I pay attention to language now, keV,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: that'll do you know what I mean.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: It's like entitlement words.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Entitlement's the worst, man.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: You know, these are the things that are like or
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: even friends who are like. I had a friend tell
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: me recently, he's like, you change, man, don't act like
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: you're not different. And I'm and I had to really
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: take perspective of that because it hurt my feelings. But
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: then I thought, I was that he's totally right. I
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: have Yeah, well, because there's no way you have this
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: kind of schedule and this kind of clarity and you're
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: working this hard with this kind of a mission and
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: purpose and there just not be changes that happen like yeah,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: I've changed. I've got five hundred and thirty seven unread
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: text messages. If yours is one of them, I'm sorry.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, Like one hundred and
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: eighty people whose mouths I have to feel like.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: There's one hundred and eighty people that are counting on
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: me to make sure everything that stage right. And that's
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: not counting the fourteen thousand people that came here to
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: get served. You know, there's they're like, we look at
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: this like church, man, we're here to serve, dude, that
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: we're not here to do anything but serve. We are
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: here to try to make people leave this building feeling better.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: You're viral to address the Congress I thought was one
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: of the most just beautiful moments, dude, Like it was
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: fucking insane. I know you've talked about it a lot.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: I know that there was a bill that ended up
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: getting passed right.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: That it did the fend dolphin all that was put
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: in the law. I wonder I'll tell you a story
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: about that off camera. Remind me got you?
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: I wonder, like for you, you do have so much
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: good grace, so much influence right now, Like is that
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: like an area in which you're you want to still
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: kind of be active in terms of.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, I definitely want to just I want
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: to go use my ah No, that was the one
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: and done for me unless they need me for something
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: that I'm convicted about. As you can imagine, every Senator
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: on America called me send us an email the next
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: week with the calls, but uh, I'm just wasn't interested. Yeah,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: I'm very specific into I don't like politics.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: I just never have.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can't even vote, right, Yeah, I can't vote.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: I don't have your a feeling. Yes stuff, whoever, somebody
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: giving my right.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: Vote back and we'll start to go, Yeah, that's what
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: we'll talk.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: But I'm an ally in need of things that I know, right,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm just also big about not talking about
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: shit I don't know. Yeah, I knew that particular subject
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: pretty well. There's a couple of other subjects that if
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: it really came up, I'd be willing to go try
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: to speak about. But I just want to make sure
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: that our people had a voice that day. That was
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: real simple for me, you know what I mean?
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think too. It's like, you know, going back
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: to what we're talking about the AA meetings, and you know,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: having family members who are addicts, like legitimately people look
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: at and I just heard you talk about this, but
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: people don't acknowledge addicts who are in a really low
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: places like people. They really dehumanize them. And and you know,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: I think I think that's stat that. Like, to me,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: that was like an important moment to like shake people
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: up and me like, yo, there's like you know the
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: airplane reference you made.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the airplane reference is real. That many people die
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: day as a plane crash. And it's because we've long
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: had this thing in America where we look at everybody
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: as a it's a personal thing.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: We have no sense of community.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: No more is to be more, have more tribalism in
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: America than we've ever had, to have more tribalism in
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: America than we've ever had. I feel like we have
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: less community than we've ever had.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: And you know what's crazy is most of the major
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: shit we all agree on.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it's crazy.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: But think about it, like I don't. I think I
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: think we all agree that like our tax dollars, we'd
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: like to kind of know that they're helping you know,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: us a little, you know, not getting you know, sent
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: over to fight O.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: That's yeah, one percent, it's just you know, but once again,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: it's like back to that point, we've lost our sense
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: of real like community, you know what I mean.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: So divided everybody. It's like, dude, if we don't agree
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: on this one thing. It doesn't mean that we can't
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: agree on this or we can't have beer.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: You can't you know, man, or just say, hey man,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: we just don't agree about that. Let's talk about something
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: we do agree with.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we could. I wish we would just focus a
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: little more to on the things that we do agree about.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: We can make so much more progress.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: All right, let's quit arguing about the stuff we don't
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: agree about for a few minutes, and the four or
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: five things that we all agree about, let's go forward
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: with that. But yeah, back to the addict talk. I
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: say that because we look at them like, ah, they
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: chose to get on drugs. Fucked them, you know what
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: I mean. It's like, but like, nah, man, that's bootleg.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: Kev's son's mother, you know what I mean, Like this
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: is so much more bigger than her.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: Let's think about her son, thinking about how it affected
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: her mother, how it affected keV, how it affected Kev's wife.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: Kev's wife had to marry into a whole situation for Svins,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: an eleven year old young man, to be a mother.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: It's like this is you.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: Then you start seeing the the true impact the you know,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: the uh, the drug addict is is not the victim here,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, that's not and I'm not
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: saying that they're the the the aggressor neither what you know,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: the but saying that, you know, the victims of drug
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: addiction are so much murther further we change that we
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: state this the right way. The victims of drug addiction
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: her so much more than just the just.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: The drug addict.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: It's the family drug addict is a victim of drug addiction.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: So it's like the victim of drug addiction is so
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: much more than just the drug addict.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: How do you how do you because you know, with
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: the last few years, man, I'm assuming like you need
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: your wife more than ever now, right, how do you guys? Like,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: how is your guys' relationship evolved? Uh? With with the
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: new success like that, like and her own success as
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: a as an entity on her own, her podcast is massive.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: Funny's podcast is huge, Bunny's Patreon is huge, Bunny's TikTok
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: is bigger than mine.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: But she's going crazy. I mean, she she really, I mean,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: correct me, I'm wrong, but she kind of broke the sky,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: the gray record. It was her TikTok, right, it was her. Sure.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: What's even cooler about that was I sent Bunny the
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: album and said, if any of these songs touch you
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: in any way that you want to post them and
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: help me out, please, you know. I'm just like, I'm
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: We're that kind of with each other, and buddies like,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: she's like, she's my Wife's like, I'm gonna post something.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: I got you, no problem. And then when she did that,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, man, because you know, Bunny had
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: never shared that side of her story a lot, and
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: I won't either because that's her story to too, of course,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: but I wrote that thinking about her and she knew that.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: So for her to like be like, you know what, man,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna stand on this now. For all we know
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: about Bunny. When her book comes out, we're gonna find
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: out that we don't know about Bunny, you know what
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: She's like, Bunny's been through a lot more than even
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: she tells, so her connecting with the song. But dude,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: we see each other less, but we are communicate more.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: And that's kind of the rule, is that if you're
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: not gonna be able to see each other and spend
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: time together, we got to fill in the communication blank.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: So every night we'll talk for hours if we're on
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: the phone. If we're not together and just catch up.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: We still prioritize making time for each other. It's just
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: important things to do.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: Man, any new brand deals on the way, Hey dude,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: do you see my hate dude shoe?
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: I did not or that with these.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: These are the hate dudes.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: This one was a piss dirty one because I'm wearing it.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: Everyone was great, but dude, I'm sure, hey, dou won't
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: mind me, but you don't worry. On the inside it
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: says made for the beautifully broken. I mean, these are
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: just cool. I love Hey dudes, we wear them anyways
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: or it's just insanely comfortable, and uh, we did a
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: deal with them, but I'm sure they won't mind me
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: saying that we're we It wasn't a one off.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: We got like we're doing a big deal with day Dude.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: Like everybody who's like, we only did a very limited
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: drop for the album. Maybe too limited in hindsight, because
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of people that were upset, and
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: I don't like to upset people. Like I'm not trying
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: to be a rare drop artist. You know, I'm for
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: everybody all the time is how I always want to be.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: But we maybe slightly under anticipated what the demand could
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: be too. But we also wasn't worried about it because hey,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: dude and I know that we're in this for the
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: long haul, like we've got we've got a future together.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: We're we got we got year's worth of plans together
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: already in motion of drops every year.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: So don't worry.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be good, man, it's probably. I mean, I
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: got a lot, you know. The Dunkin donut commercial was cool.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: I don't have a Dunkin.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: Deals tak a donut shit, it's crazy. Well, I feel
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: like they need to give you your own item on
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: the maybe.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: Dunk and holler at me. Y'all know how much I
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: loved working with y'all. It was an absolute ball.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: Or a McDonald's meal.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh listen, you can have your own McDonald's. Oh
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: that's a big one.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: You remember.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: I remember when Travis gott got his first McDonald mill.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: I was like, get out of kas just dropped the
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: flame sent you, I know, and did it with John
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: Cena talking about a big flex. Nobody's bigger than him.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: He had John con to come to his house.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: Dude, come on, what would be that's the only way
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: you go to kind do that is fair? He's the king.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: I would you guys talk to me?
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: No, please intro.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know him.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: Oh I want to know him.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: So he's so funny.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: I think he's hilarious. Dude. I know Aiden. I talked
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: to Aiden every now and then. I think he's funny too.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: I love that whole stream culture. Man.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: It is it's it's It's interesting because the only time
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: I met Aidan Ross I met him at a Dre's
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: I was I was there in the VIP and he
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: was live on the internet and I was there with
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: fifty seven. I was just like, ah, fuck, we're like
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: on the internet right now and with like hundreds of
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: thousands of people, and I'm fucking shroomed out, blowed all.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: The way back with fifty fifty. Such a fifty fan.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: What would be?
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: Anything happened with me and Aidan? By the way, he
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: was at a casino Heland. Yeah, dude, I was playing
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: with Exposed and Nick Nick Marks. Yeah, we were over
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: there gambling together and then they was like Aiden Rosses
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: in the other room. He once you come, say what's up?
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: And I walked in and said hi, just because I'm
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: a fan. And I looked up and of course he's gambling,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: but he's you know, they're they're there's training him gambling.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is crazy. I looked up
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: and he was cool. He's like dub Jelly in the
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: chatch all and everybody gave me the dog.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: Was like, oh cool, cool. Well listen dude, number one album.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: Oh God Willing, Baby, God Willing. If you're watching this,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: we we it's it's for sure beautifully broken. Uh. I'm
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: just proud of you, man.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: I'm glad we do a pot. We hang a short
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: time with a few years.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: So what about the dog? Can I wonder you don't
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: need one of them cameras right now. I wonder if
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: he can be seen just dogging out right?
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: He slept.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: I love this dog, bust dog. Yeah, he's been the
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: star of your your daily.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: Daily roud, He's He's the most love thing on this tour.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm not gonna lie. I'm a little
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: surprised there's no bus dog Merchip dude.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: So we're trying to get it inflatable to put in
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: front of the venues for the last twenty shows. That
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: would be fine dog.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: His fans know about their dogs.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they love bust Dog. Yeah, bust Dog is a
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: big deal. Dude, he's a hit.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: He was on the dunking Donald's commercial. That's the more
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: they knocked on the door earlier.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: He was bringing some men for the Bust Dog. Oh oh,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: that's a Bustdog gift. He gets way more in the
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: Tiffany bag.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: We don't know what's in there.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: Well listen, man, I'm super fucking proud of you, man,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: I'm happy for you. Congrats on everything. You deserve it all, brother,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: Thank you brother.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: Halfway through the tour, yes, sir, halfway through twenty something
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: shows left twenty six.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: If you're watching this, and I will say this, man,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: best best show of the year.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: Who come see it, baby, Yes, sir.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: Jelly Row