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Derek Riordan · Not Another Football Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Not Another Football Podcast with myself,
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  Speaker 1: Simon Donley and Jackie mc andhr. I'm a delighted. I've
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  Speaker 1: got a fantastic guest as always, direk Ryerdan oh good
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  Speaker 1: all good looking forward it and as we record this
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  Speaker 1: for two games into the new season. So your reflection
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  Speaker 1: on yesterday delighted.
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  Speaker 2: I delighted. I watched it in my bed, funny enough,
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  Speaker 2: but that was it was a snatched it then, to
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  Speaker 2: be fair, I think obviously Ranger started to battle us
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  Speaker 2: in the second half. Anyway, I folk, but.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see, I've.
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  Speaker 2: Been I've been to the home games. I have been
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  Speaker 2: taking they be man and we girls, so they've got
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  Speaker 2: season tickets so I'm getting dragged along and I'm basically
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  Speaker 2: so it's I don't know. It's been all right, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I think we need improved all obviously, but
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  Speaker 2: as I say, it's a good result. It's a good
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  Speaker 2: result yesterday. So he and.
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  Speaker 3: A few younger ones as well, and he tried to
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  Speaker 3: bid them in the boy fireland all right. I think
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  Speaker 3: boyled and I think the elders he's got a really
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  Speaker 3: good chance.
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  Speaker 2: I think he'll get ill. Did you see the composer
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  Speaker 2: of parsionally out of books. I think he's got a
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  Speaker 2: really good chance.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Cool. So I take you back to the start of
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  Speaker 1: a career. Obviously, Hubs. Did you come through there through
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  Speaker 1: the ranks really young?
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  Speaker 2: When you start I think, I think I maybe wait
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  Speaker 2: and I think it was Martin Ferguson. I think it
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  Speaker 2: was it maybe scouted me or whatever at Granting Sports.
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  Speaker 3: That must have been.
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  Speaker 2: About thirteen fourteen ish maybe, and I started going. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you get holidays at football is different now obviously I
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  Speaker 2: think I was going on the holidays with Donald park Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously Parking was the main one for me. He was
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  Speaker 2: brilliant start going to the holiday is signed at sixteen obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Hank at your pro contracts at sixteen a right for
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  Speaker 2: two years or sudden you get that time. And I
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  Speaker 2: was coming through that Big Gary. Obviously there was a
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  Speaker 2: group piece King Gary to be fair, Tomo and Brunie
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  Speaker 2: and all that. They sortly comes to a bit after
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  Speaker 2: I because I played with Big gask Grant and Sports.
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  Speaker 2: Then he went to Salvey and I went a hutchie Vale,
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  Speaker 2: which normally most end up at Hutchey. They take the
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  Speaker 2: good players with it for the other teams and I
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  Speaker 2: went Hutchey and he went Salvey. Then both of us
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  Speaker 2: ended up at him at the same time, so it
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  Speaker 2: was it was good then obviously Tomo and Brunie and
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  Speaker 2: with current Ai.
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  Speaker 1: That he shows you that, we shows you that broke
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  Speaker 1: Mowbray broke. They want to be fair, but we had
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  Speaker 1: a good way young groups. That difference between you and
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  Speaker 1: the likes of Brunnie and Tom. Think Brunie is maybe
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  Speaker 1: two couple of year two.
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  Speaker 3: Three manus as well want them after that.
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  Speaker 2: Tamas Tamas in before us, hink times a couple of
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  Speaker 2: years older than other time was really involved with us.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think when you came in, Nah, he was older.
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  Speaker 2: He was in the older group. Fe were at sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: He was like in the would have been twenty ones,
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  Speaker 2: I think. But then because we played under eighteens and
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  Speaker 2: they were in under twenty ones. When you played at
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  Speaker 2: stadiums and stuff, it's actually good under twenty one reserve
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  Speaker 2: matches back then. Yeah, there was also the big players
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  Speaker 2: in a minute and you go big crowds and I
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  Speaker 2: remember it was like six or something that tink Castle
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  Speaker 2: remember that's every and all that replace you look forward
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  Speaker 2: to that as you were young, you just touching.
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  Speaker 1: But we were talking about it before we came on here.
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  Speaker 1: The day obviously been the youngsters and getting bled into
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  Speaker 1: the football. But what do you put that down to the
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  Speaker 1: back then? Was that just a stroke color that a
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  Speaker 1: group of used came through it the one time?
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  Speaker 2: I think it is. I don't think you coach it.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, trying to think. I think, obviously say just
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  Speaker 2: hopefully the new batch coming through that. But know for
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  Speaker 2: that many players coming through at the same time, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's hard to get and obviously clubs, clubs would
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  Speaker 2: love that to happen. I signed a five year away McLeish,
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  Speaker 2: so I was stally quite lucky. I think he signed
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  Speaker 2: with Rangels about a week or two after that was
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  Speaker 2: run out my contract that actually went to sell ticket
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  Speaker 2: twenty three so it was at the end of the was.
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  Speaker 3: That five years and five that just let's what.
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  Speaker 2: Must have been because the only pie cheap or whatever
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  Speaker 2: for me just to get me quick or whatever. I
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  Speaker 2: haven't worked, I die. But it was a five year contract,
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  Speaker 2: so I was quite lucky. I got that just before
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  Speaker 2: came in after again, was it Frank was it Frank
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  Speaker 2: or was it Bobby? No, it was Frank Sozy Frank
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  Speaker 2: Sosi go. The joe was now dead quick because he
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  Speaker 2: gave me. He gave me my debut and he only
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  Speaker 2: lasted maybe was that a month?
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  Speaker 3: Three games?
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  Speaker 2: Then Bobby come aby that so having.
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  Speaker 1: That short period, so he gave you your debut. It
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  Speaker 1: was against that's fun enough, and then Bobby came in.
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  Speaker 1: Then Bobby come in.
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  Speaker 2: I had to go a loan. I didn't really hang
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  Speaker 2: me away and loan he killed in beef for three games,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't well scored the hat at the first
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  Speaker 2: game or whatever. Then he called me back and I
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  Speaker 2: was in the stand against Obviously I was the happy.
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  Speaker 2: I was like to enjoying it when you go to
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  Speaker 2: a young playing football or whatever. So done it and
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  Speaker 2: then took me back then left or that. I got
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  Speaker 2: a wee sniff and the team and I don't think
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  Speaker 2: I scored maybe damn it mass come off he fenied
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  Speaker 2: or something, so he exhaustion. I got come on and
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  Speaker 2: scored the free kick that game and that was sly
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  Speaker 2: in the team.
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  Speaker 1: Then onwards did he did he just give you the
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  Speaker 1: license to go and play Bobby? Because he's anytime I
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  Speaker 1: look at that team we are using it it.
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  Speaker 2: Was four of us. I think it was me brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: Was Booney coming as a coming as a striker I
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  Speaker 2: think at the start or a winger or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: He coming later with Mowbray, but Bunny coming as a
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  Speaker 2: obviously a winger a striker. Then he ended up going
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  Speaker 2: to right back and he said mid obviously with Celtic
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  Speaker 2: and Hubs. But to be fair, Bobby was he was good.
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  Speaker 2: He came up being big guys. We're like, well'm up
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  Speaker 2: the boot and stuff. So so he liked that. He
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  Speaker 2: liked to laugh, to be fair Bobby.
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  Speaker 1: So after that, then you met a Celtic at two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and five or soon, I think you're a Celic player.
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  Speaker 1: It never really happened for it's Celtic. But can I
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  Speaker 1: what was the difficulties of what did you find to
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  Speaker 1: be Celtic.
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  Speaker 2: It's Celtic. It was as I said, it's they've all
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  Speaker 2: got good players for a start, so I've never got
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  Speaker 2: to see no good players. But sometimes you didn't get
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  Speaker 2: a fair crack of the whip and mys I think
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  Speaker 2: I did they but it's a I think Aidan was
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  Speaker 2: the left winger at the time, which is I've always
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  Speaker 2: says I would play Aiding in front of me anyway,
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  Speaker 2: as a left midfielder or whatever, because gone past people,
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  Speaker 2: he's brilliant. I see I'm different. I think my better
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  Speaker 2: finisher than then and stuff. But as I said, it
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  Speaker 2: depends what the marger wants and what formations and all that.
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  Speaker 2: But I wanted to play up front by obviously a big,
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  Speaker 2: big guy, which would have been big Yan, which was perfect.
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  Speaker 2: But as I said, Aidan Pooey do it on the left.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it was at Knacko, maybe outing right
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  Speaker 2: there off the center midwark. It was at Boonie And
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  Speaker 2: at the start when I first was hardly partly hardly
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  Speaker 2: went as a sitting different because defensive I.
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  Speaker 3: Had just left and actually the meeting me Gordon a
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  Speaker 3: week before I left, and then he brought us in
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  Speaker 3: and it was like start of June and he asked
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  Speaker 3: me about you, and he asked me about Paul Hartley
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  Speaker 3: and it was like, would you think you think you
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  Speaker 3: could play in the team, And I was like, that's
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  Speaker 3: the best position. I think your best position would be,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a ten or off off the striker of
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  Speaker 3: a striker. I know you played a lot of times
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  Speaker 3: against mysel coming after left, but a good natural finisher
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  Speaker 3: and hardly asked about him. And a week later I left.
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  Speaker 3: My contract was up, but you know I maintained he
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  Speaker 3: didn't want me. You know, you signed Paul Telfa.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, but that.
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  Speaker 2: Was that was Willow was well. I was Willow Mark
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  Speaker 2: Willow and tell for one of the right backs, and
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  Speaker 2: Hink Pinkle Hinkle coming as well.
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  Speaker 3: He signed. The first one was will Virgo.
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  Speaker 2: Was there when I went America and the preseason.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, he was my replacement Virgo to start with.
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  Speaker 3: Comfy was bright and at the time or or something
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  Speaker 3: like that, it was.
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  Speaker 2: Big money as well. I think if it was.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting though that you're saying your top at megid
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  Speaker 1: there because obviously I see Aiden's a totally different player
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  Speaker 1: to you. But is that what is that what you
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  Speaker 1: preferred to play coming in off that left on your
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  Speaker 1: right foot.
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  Speaker 2: It depends what the formation was when I think was
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  Speaker 2: selter count You can play attacking anyways, but they've got
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  Speaker 2: the most of the ball find back in the days anyway,
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  Speaker 2: Definitely back then, I think Celic Rangers were obviously stronger then.
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  Speaker 2: But ay, as I said, I always want to play
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  Speaker 2: at a candy defense. So obviously my main thing was
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  Speaker 2: was obviously scoring goals. I always want to be the
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  Speaker 2: high schoal score, no matter what what to be the
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  Speaker 2: high school score. I set pieces and stuff, so as
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  Speaker 2: I say, as the marger always got the rain things
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  Speaker 2: if they want to play them or whatever. And you've
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  Speaker 2: just got to try and think me. But if you're
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  Speaker 2: not happy enough playing then.
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  Speaker 1: Which you ended up playing? How many games did you play?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even tell you. I can I tell you,
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  Speaker 2: but I think it starts what I'll write for goals wise,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it was all right for coming on
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  Speaker 2: and if that makes sense, because I don't, I will
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  Speaker 2: look at them more starts. And I think he started
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  Speaker 2: me in which was strange that com on that game
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  Speaker 2: when I won the league. Yeah, I think I go
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: cramp and I would never like that go cramp and
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  Speaker 2: in the game and I've never used to get that.
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  Speaker 2: But I just showed you because obviously I was playing
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  Speaker 2: plain enough and I remember getting cramp and it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: even that lay into the game, but.
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  Speaker 3: It would just strange you put me into. Did you
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  Speaker 3: see a big difference like one for Hibs to Celtic.
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  Speaker 2: Of course you do. Obviously you're sixty thousand there for
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  Speaker 2: whatever it is, fifty odds. And then but I think
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  Speaker 2: it's a good thing. I think you need pressure. I
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: think people say thing will be pressure. It's a bit
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  Speaker 2: strange because you do want a bit of it, if
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: you know what, You need a bit of nerves and things,
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  Speaker 2: so because it keeps you on your toes, if that
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  Speaker 2: makes sense. He didn't mean you're not bothered about anything.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I think you need a bit of
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  Speaker 2: pressure on football and stuff and nerves. You definitely need that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously I knew you as a Hibs play at
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  Speaker 1: that time. I just thought the Celtic thing with a
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  Speaker 1: suited you. It just shows you sometimes in football. After that,
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  Speaker 1: then where did you go after the Celtic, back to the.
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  Speaker 2: Back to Hibbs, Hibbs, back to Hibbs. But as I say,
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  Speaker 2: I had loads I think there was loads of offers
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  Speaker 2: with at the time. And obviously Gordon says they needed me.
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: I tend to suggest it never but they wouldn't. He
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  Speaker 2: let me go out alone. And then when you want
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: to do that, you want to go and improve people. You
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  Speaker 2: want to go and brief people, prove people wrong and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was Burnley and stuff that will what
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  Speaker 2: take me doing. And I think they ended up going
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  Speaker 2: a premiership maybe the year after it or the next
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  Speaker 2: again year so you never know how football changes or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Then didn't let me go and end up going back
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  Speaker 2: to Hibbs. It was a bit overweight and obviously I've
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: been a bit skinning it malinky all my days. Way
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  Speaker 2: back back. I'll go back in Scotland squads and that
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  Speaker 2: player of the months and all that again, and back
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  Speaker 2: in the squads top goal scoring stuff and Dumbell again.
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  Speaker 2: Then three year I think I stayed there my contract
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  Speaker 2: in the what you knew me it was obviously lower
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  Speaker 2: and us as well, remember sitting and I end up
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: going to China after that.
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  Speaker 3: Three Scotland caps. You should have a lot more than that.
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  Speaker 3: You must feel it does.
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  Speaker 2: That's the only thing I would say that's sort of
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  Speaker 2: hinglishy is the caps. And you'll see the players that
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  Speaker 2: I've got more than you that in my eyes are
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  Speaker 2: no better than me. If I didn't mind, players are
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  Speaker 2: better me and stuff. But the people that've got mega caps,
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  Speaker 2: I definitely.
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  Speaker 3: Think, but assume we Gas. Yeah, I mean we carry
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  Speaker 3: a corner and it's a position. It's an area where
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  Speaker 3: I think we've always kind of struggled. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 3: getting goals, especially at that level. Yep, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: you should have a lot more than three caps.
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  Speaker 2: Think it was obviously it was the days. It was
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  Speaker 2: like Kenny up front, which to be fair, Kenny done
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  Speaker 2: a good job because it was that type getting your caps.
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  Speaker 1: Who was your caps? One against?
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  Speaker 2: The last cap was funny enough was member Burdley. I
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  Speaker 2: think was the beat five now at Wales and you
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: go to Sack I think then it was Levina coming.
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  Speaker 2: Then that's when I got bombed back at the Scotland squad.
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  Speaker 2: It was weird because I got Player of the Month
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  Speaker 2: when I.
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  Speaker 3: Was with this.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, as I say, it's every manager's got the
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  Speaker 2: rain personas or whatever, the water player, whoever you want
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  Speaker 2: to put it. It was Austria. I think Japan was one,
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  Speaker 2: and Japan it would have been Wills also go beat five.
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  Speaker 2: Now I come on the sub and they go beat five.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was Burdley's last match, but I was
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  Speaker 2: always on the bench all look way water mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 2: Because you didn't get the Caps is only when you
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  Speaker 2: come on, isn't it. So I was always on the
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  Speaker 2: Caps and that.
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  Speaker 1: As well, weren't you yous?
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  Speaker 3: It was thirty three caps, but I must have been
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  Speaker 3: eighty squads.
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  Speaker 2: Ay, well that's I think that's what I was. I
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: was always in the squads and the benches. But obviously
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: it's just never get known. It was always what the runners.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously Kenny was good for these Joe and Nadas because
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  Speaker 2: we weren't. I didn't we were the best they compared
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  Speaker 2: to what we've done now. But yeah, you always needed
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  Speaker 2: their runners up front. I think I don't think I was.
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  Speaker 2: It was a running time anyway.
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  Speaker 3: They wanted the fallards to defend. That's the problem, and
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  Speaker 3: I started the defense started through the front. Yeah, and
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: you know, rather than the creativity and which we really
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  Speaker 3: lacked that ley, I think we have for a number
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  Speaker 3: of years. But it was more get everybody behind the
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  Speaker 3: ball and then seem team in ninety eight Wor'll come
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  Speaker 3: you know everybody there. It was a back say it
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: was a back three, it was a back five. You
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: know it's five at the back, three in midfield and
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: with keV Galla behind the ball and triangle the ball
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  Speaker 3: was up front, then Joky Golden Jury and Jack Gallica,
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: but it was always having the going got your balls
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  Speaker 3: off the start up the top.
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  Speaker 2: Who was who was the manager? Then he tried he
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: tried to sign me a pressing for the enough mm hmm.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: So China, what was the experience? How did that come out?
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  Speaker 2: But it was weird. I was playing golf one enough
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: and it was an agent for Newcastle. He Franz Carr.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: I think his name was. I didn't I didn't know
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: put the forest, I didn't know. I didn't know, but
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: it was it was him a phone me on the
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: golf course and I think it was about two weeks
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: into the hour season or whatever up here yea and
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: asked me about thing. Were it known that obviously that salary,
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: I say, is not for me going to way over
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: there obviously already had big golfers to go to. Yeah, Rush,
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: I know, I didn't know want to go obviously. Then
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: they come back again a couple of weeks later and
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: he says, right, that's that's fine, on the weight ahead
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  Speaker 2: with that and went over there and it was mental.
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  Speaker 3: It was so Jacko went there and I didn't. He
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: lasted a week.
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  Speaker 2: But honestly, the foot I think I think that was right.
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  Speaker 2: I heard that and loss as well, Shank Shanksy chamber
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: that we're called.
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  Speaker 1: But is that the same team as Jacko's.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but Jacko last these teams like they
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: come in and they dissolve and stuff that s meant
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: get food poisoned and became he lost about of stone.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Well I come.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Back, I looked like I was dying. Could be fair
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  Speaker 2: when I come back as well. Just honestly, the food
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: like that, I was like gold even just water and stuff.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: It was Coca Cola was like Christmas. Where we were,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: it was of Disney westernized and I'm thinking, I'll get
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: a chicken. Chicken got that it's basically running about the table.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: The chicken was like basically running a book. That's a
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: bit exaggeration, but it was like you know what I mean,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: It was like a fuel chicken basically where ice at
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: the side and that I was like, fuck s no.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: And eventually you start to find the places that turned
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: the western ice food. But you're like an hour away.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: So I was stalking up on subway subway sandwiches, putting
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: them in the fridge. About seven sandwiches at times it
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: was about an hour walking that the roads and their stuff.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: You just seen a carash every morning. So I sort
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: of stayed next over with Fabio for money. He was
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: leaving as I was gone. So when I signed, seemingly
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: they got riddy like a serfbe and boy we had
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: two Serbian managers. It was honestly, it was like guys
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: for the pub, you.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Just got your cell as well.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I went my cell as well, so I probably should
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: have took some day to be fair, but I didn't
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: quite lost a language. I just so you had to
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: rely on. Eddie was like the translator for you, and
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: he didn't even know what I'm saying all that. So
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I'm I'll be swearing at the matager and stuff because
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to stay out in the extra kind of
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: free kicks and shooting and stuff shouting at me get
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: on the bus and I'm like trying to do a
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: wee bit extra. But even like the grass, the grass
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: length and what that was, like that and stuff and
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: him just just different word was the standard. Like to
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: be honest, right, I wrote them were good day. Remember
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: some ge high he played in my team, so you
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: had to show like it was older people respect it
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: must be like their culture or whatever. Yeah, became amany
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: and obviously moan like mad and it's like did it
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: kind of speak like that to people and stuff? I
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: was like, no, passing the ball like whatever, because it's
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: clear as day, you can see it. But it's like
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: there's no switched stone up there like passing in that.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: But their technical wise was it was really good and
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: number fit as anything old.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Did you last six months?
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Five?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Six months?
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Too bad?
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: But they were trying to get me out over there.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: So I'm on my end and then my agent when
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: they come over and I was like, you need to
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: come over, basically threatening me, which so I remember being
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: in the in the room and had obviously five six
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Chinese people and Eddie's god, no, you better signing that
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: contract and famous almost signing nothing. But then they come
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: into paper that says i'd wear a wall or something
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: that was in the sun. You'd probably see if you
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: searched the back, you would see it. They had been
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: training basically like six in the morning and then two
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: in the afternoon and like nine at night, try to
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: get me out. I'm not going out anyway, And anyway,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: eventually six months or sting after agreement there, I was gone.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I was actually glad to be fair, because it was
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: A bit of relief.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Is really hard over there, like it was totally different.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Just everything was family as well. Had a wee lasting
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: that at the time as well. So they couldn't come,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: You couldn't. You couldn't take them over there. Different planet's
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: five of them on a motorbike and that just the
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: helmets and crashes every two seconds. So we had the
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: driver as well. Me and Fabi used to get driven
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: to train and even then it was still don't you.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Other europe It was other European players.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: It was only Fabio for money. He played at Lazio, so.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Chinese guy, no.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: But the Brazilian so that was so he ever be
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: group and you're two certainly is.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: That when they started like throwing real money.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Ay try to sing. Lampard left for me it was
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty grand a week or something they
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: got offered or something and says, now shows you what
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: type of players they are on or whatever. But they
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: must have thought no, but I think then dropped on
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: all that started coming maybe about six months after TV's
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: and all that they started going because they were chucking
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: scanning money, some of the decisions and all that, the
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: referee and stuff on the pictures and stuff. It just
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: didn't seem right. So I eventually fell out with him.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I was putting the bringing. So there was two Serby
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: and Marger. The first one we were sitting second. We
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: were actually doing well. He seemed he seemed he was
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: a nice guy. Second one coming he was like a
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: really old guy. All we warlord, we said, and that.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: So I ended up arguing me because he was like
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: really angry, really angry type of person, and they eventually
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: started to get used to me what type of person
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I was. Obviously, then they bring enough sacked him sitting Ford.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: So this was only this is only within five months
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: six months I was there, sacked two guys sitting second
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: and Ford, and then they brung a Chinese guy in.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: So obviously you've got to show respect to this culture thing. Obviously.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: So it was rudy for play. Remember, I says, play
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: me ooting the left. Depend on what for me? She
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: was ooting the left or up front bay another striker,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: So she puts me in the right wing, says, I
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: says the left. So anyways, took me off from the
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: one that's cut inside and had the shop goales tipped
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: around the post. We're getting beat one out halftime, I
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: get substituted obviously, so I've sparted dummy and that was it.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Then that was when it all went wrong. So it
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: must be the culture hang with them and that was
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: it basically for there.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: But do you regret going out?
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Nah? Knots. I've tried it. So as I said, I
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: had the choice choice to go.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Your time again like all of it. Yeah, she could
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: say ay and no, So I didn't regret.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: And then because you didn't get bigger than Celtic and
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: that type of stuff. My family obviously, my mum signed
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: the family or Celtic fans, so I never along the
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: road it's perfect for me, but probably gone maybe leads
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: or something when the leads try to sign me. A
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: couple of times Cardiff as well, and I didn't. I
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: didn't fancy at the time. I don't know why when
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: you were at HBBS. That's when I was at HBBS
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: first time and then hand the second time.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: What made you know go for that?
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know the time I didn't kime what was
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: why I didn't go down to them impressed. And obviously
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: that was the other one with Craig Brown and.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Homeboy.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Maybe back then I probably put it into that then
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: obviously my contract was so I could away to handle
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: lect and stuff. I met him actually and a Hoo's
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: and the guy actually.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: And.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: They seemed really distracted. So I didn't fancy that. And
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: what they do is that, you know, to drink and stuff.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: That was the other things told that just yeah, but
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I didn't think you should be doing what that makes
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: sense kind of.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I think we are background with the night clubs in
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Edinburgh and we get banned.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: That's still gone is it's still in the nightclub only
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: getting certain places. I it's mental, but it's ridiculous. Hbbs
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: actually try to sort it for me back in the day,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: so I wannestly I used to go added on. So
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: if you get into somewhere and you were spotted in.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: That place with just any bar or club, it.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Was all nightclubs. It was basically on nightclubs, and I
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: think it got doubled and trebled treble board whatever. So
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: that's what ended up happening.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: So how did that come out? Just a fight one night?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: To be fair, The first one that banned me was
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: a guy in Funny Enough, the guy in a place
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: that you still go. The guy actually got sacked and
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: that was the one that caused the band that start
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: for stealing it the safe the band started for and
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I got caught in like in a nightclub basically where
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: you're not supposed to be. But that's when Hibbs actually
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: had to get a list made up for so it
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: was only certain ones at the time. Then they all
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: started adding on a list of the main ones.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Then would that be.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: It was like the one that got caught for the
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: first one added on an extra three year or whatever
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: it was was. Remember espionage, Yeah, that's where it was espinage.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: What do you mean you get caught?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I've been in it. So it's like if if you
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: were band fit, they added on extra To be honest,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: they were adding things on the Then Billy's Laws place
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: was one of them as well. The more than that,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: so it's a group of like all the owners of
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: the night clubs, basically the groups, and it was hard
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: to walk a book with an actual list once to
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: the list was huge. You's a bigbo as well, so
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I was allowed to go into his place only for
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: the Christmas night, so with one cousin or one part
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: that's always allowed.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: M hmm.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: It was ridiculous. Honestly, the rules were ridiculous.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: What was it to get into a couple of fights?
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I no like what they may cookie be because the
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: millions of people that are a lot worse getting place.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: But I think they just tried tried to basically promote
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: it with the Unite thing.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: It was called I kind of get together though don't
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: need That's what I was at Celtic. I was in
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: one of the places I never really know much, but
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I did. I was and a guy had put the
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: head on me as I was coming a certain area.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: What was that called again in Edinburgh?
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Edinburgh and the bouncil just seen me obviously go down
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: and the marster's out. I had a cut in my eye,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: but I wasn't in an argument of nothing. The guy
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: just it's an opportunity and he's putting the head on us.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: But actually got to the bottom. But it was put
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: it was in the paper and all that as if
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: like I had picked up something, I've done something more
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: you caused it because don't want it to be what
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: was the name of that eros.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Eros was used to go Eros I used to go
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: and was one of the good ones, but.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: I never I don't I went ever went back there
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: after that. I mean I didn't got much anyway, but
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: I was coming to speak to somebody and the v
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I peepa.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Yep, so they just Eros was quite Eros was one
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: of the roughy ones, to be fair, but that was
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: one of the good ones as well. Yeah, and your
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Brannigan's next door, Remember I find a big sty bar one.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: But as I say, I think they just tried to
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: promote all that unite stuff and that nass Tom I says, well,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I'm you can't stop me going out. It's ridiculous obviously
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: obviously I'm fair and brough as well, So what do
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: you expect me to day travel the club?
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Try to do that with you?
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: A couple of couple of all right, to be fair,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: there one of that bad with me lasts well, I
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: didn't even know I'm barred for there. You kind of
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: just kind of guess where I'm bandfait And eventually they
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: come up with that last time lubbish. You still you
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: still get fring me. But the dorm and that are
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: fine because it's all changing now because it's like twenty
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: year ago, but try and still do it now.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: It's still the places you wreck now now that you're oh, you'll.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Still get places like Yean and that I mad just
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: because it will still be the same owner type people.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: That's what was mm hmmm.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: So did you go hubs three times? Did you go
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: back to hubs again twice? Twice? After China?
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: China? After China, I had the chance to go to
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: actually Brentford that's where it was. I think it was Wrostler.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: He was a manager. But I've had enough. My head
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: was always hanging after that China, honestly, and I was
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: like that Instagram over there though snow like Chinese food,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: so Chi Chippy. Last night it was I saw come back.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I think kind I've got Saint Johnston because I was
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: up and I went Saint Johns. I did in the
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: last long to be fair, I got Sack then, so
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I took the huff Who's never played? They played it?
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Tin Castle.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Who's the gaffer there?
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: It was Steve as it was he was ever That
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: group was really good. That was probably the worst drinker
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: and the worst drinking group I've been at a cup.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I think was Saint Johnston, brilliant, all brilliant guys and stuff.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: But what happened is we played Harts and I only
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: had just joined basically, and I think did he put
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: me I can't remember if we put me, start me
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: in sub or whatever and put me on the bench
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I come on or something. Obviously I was getting pure
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: pelt us warming up and they had a Player of
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: the Year night or whatever it was away back at Perth.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: So I've obviously said for I've only just joined, like
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: literally this week or the week before, they pointed me
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: going away back up there. So I was in the
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: half anyway for being on the bench obviously at Hearts
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: and I went out that night and I got lifted,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: So that was probably got how lifted it was, And
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: that was for being in a That was for being
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: in a cub And I got legging the line down
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: the stairs with the doorman.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: And the households.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Beatings and all.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Nah, no really not but that one there they were
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: sitting on me in a puddle kind of like your
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: arms up on loving road to the police come. So
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: they could have actually just let you go, you know
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Because I've never done any wrong. Would
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: want to make a scene by so that's where it happens.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: And if I've done any long obviously I don't. I
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: was always admitted if I've done something.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: But don't a target. Is that an obvious thing is
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: because I've only known you in years, we had you
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: done it touching that the minute. But you don't come
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: across to me as that you matured. You don't come
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: across as a guy that does bother never own guy.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Do you feel as if in your early days because
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: you get into the house team.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: It's probably because you're local as well. It's as I say,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: it's for my pals and stuff, and it is obviously
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: there is obviously bothering stuff when you're you're young in that,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: but certainly know to what the extremes it made it
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: things worth. I mean it's singing. I didn't know what
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: grief anybody played football and stuff, so no, I didn't
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: want that. But that's it. That's what you kind of changing.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: So whatever do you never.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Never came across as like a trouble maker.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: That's what I said. Look of the players that.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Comes to stuff you turned into a maniac way.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: But this is this is what I'm saying though, but
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: you got when like player's go the stories here, you're
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: like pure hannibal lecture and stuff. I was like, I
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: don't know where the comfy was, but that just shows
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: you people talk crap.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: You only like that even a drink, you will that
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: we switched to go crazy.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, not just well you've seen you for
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: a few drinks for use a few times.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. What I'm saying when I look
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: back at it, I think maybe just target of course
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: who you are.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: They didn't arguing that uniting was honestly united. That band
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: last thing was a fast and that just seemed to
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: make the paper all the time. Because I didn't like
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: getting told what to day as well, if you know
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: what I mean, I bought my bard for there had
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: any answers for you to see how you were barred.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: That was the funny thing.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, the definitely if you're going to and causing boy,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: you know, getting steaming and starting fire, somebody.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: May because bother it was maybe because somebody's like yourself,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: somebody has obviously tried to day something that would be it. Yeah,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: but no going because of brother John.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: So many clubs after how long after that you've done it,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: you and your last club.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: No, I went to Edinburgh City Edinburgh Sy I finished it,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: but that was between John. You're just basically watching the boy.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: That was League two wasn't bad.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Sorry, No, I waited Bristol Rovers, Bristol Rovers. It was
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Mark McGee, that's what it was. And there was a
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: few Scotch boys and that we're there. Clarkson was there
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: then a party is it parts him Jim Jim parts
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: and he was there, Garry Kenneth. So there was a
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: few because it was Mark McGee was the marger Well,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: that's what was thought. It was funnier folk. He's what
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: me about. I know it was. It was Gordon's obviously
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: best bower By. As soon as I got in the
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: taxi had to be manas they've got a problem for you.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I was all right, just a bit strange that comes
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: to you and I but I enjoyed it doing there
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: to be for you, and it was quite hard. So
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I just had the mother kids. So I was flying
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: up and I'm never an injury poll and I actually
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: pulled my hamstring well because I was flying up and
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: don because of the kids, and they were brilliant. They
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: actually sent stuff up to the hoose for the kid
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: and all that actually a good company club. I just
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: I think gee got sacked, I think and sees you
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: think that is when the new marger Cos half here
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: and I'll be up the road. I think after Christmas
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: or whatever it was back up the road because of
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: one of them. I was basically playing like left wing back.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: You know what I was like doing in England? Are
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: all big units dias only my head the best big
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: meat heads. I love you. So there wasn't a good
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: football as well. To be fair, they were a week
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: too as well.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I think we.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Played them away.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember playing them away and all the feat I.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Think we were wanting to start.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Let go or they loved the Gary Kenneth and that,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: don't you. So it just showed you what their mentality
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: was for football boys. Yeah, he did it for the yard.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: It was the other end. It was a culture shop.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: But I end up ended a parking me Gary Kenneth.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: So he was telling me how to free kick and
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I was like, so we end up we'll go splap
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: in the chains room through the boys were hudding obviously
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: back and that was Aslortly didn't enjoy it on the
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: rest of that because the football wasn't good and there
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: was loads of arguments in the changing rooms and stuff.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: What made you company up? Then it would be nice
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: to persuade you obviously.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: As I say, it's not even far either. You know,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: it's a nice place to be fair, it's really nice.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I like it. I liked it doing that as well.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Obviously used to use word I went for me, even
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: though I didn't play much. See, I didn't mind it.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: See like if managers and that are good, it's fine.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Obviously I'm coming towards my end trying to get you
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: up to speak.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember I was remembers sitting in the office
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: with the chairman and.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: I was totally a bite before we brought him down.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: But we put his reel on on YouTube. Every goals,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: every goal was better than the last one, and it's like,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: you get this guy done.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: As I say, it's it's getting the chances and stuff
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: as well. You want to take chances when it comes
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: and stuff. And when I say, I told you when
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: I looked at that forty, when I've seen that forty
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: stretching up other beer gut, But then you didn't You've
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: got you.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Know what, so remember me taking you for the shooting
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: thing A didn't wanted it again.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: It was quite runny. That was like the sky they said,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: the sky is running.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: The sky is running. After that, never again did you
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: think they're moved to me? And I'll finish some of the.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: You're seeing you the city. You're the same weight or
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: that as your world when your hobs and with a bit.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: I really like your honesty, but yours. But it was
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: the boxing was on and your flat was right off
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: fifty yards fairls. I think it was like midnight and
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: we were talking about getting you fit. Nor At and says,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I'll take something that shooting you can get decup to speeding,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: or that you will score goals. You'll fucking piss it
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: on this level. I was, I know, I had no doubt.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: You need to get them up and you get them fed.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: You get on there and then you text him. It
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: was like midnight. The boxing, one of the big boxing
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: bouts was on. He is like you, I've just ordered
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: a pizza.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: It was something, but that take away it's because it
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: was in mine. It's will remember. It was like a.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: How we coat had one? It's me you and in
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: one flat, you're another flat. But as he said, the innocence,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: it was the honesty about it, because he also text me.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: One moment I didn't like story line.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I like to tell you, I'm going to the shop.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: You want any fry stuff? Get this guy fat No.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: But as good as I said, the joy that they're
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: obviously was used to it. It helps it over. You
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: get me the coaches, and that's what I meaning.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: So but what I remember as well, because we'd all
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: be other difficulties in that dis room and I'm not
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: going that even a popular boy in that dish room,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I thought.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I way everyone liked. Obviously, it's hard because you think
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: maybe we used and I think maybe I say something that,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: but I say, I'm neverthing like.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: That because of what you've done before and what you've achieved,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: you know, and people look up to that and you're
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: still doing it. I know you're down there.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: But it was just it was quite hard.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: It was just it was a toxic for us, even before,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: way before you came down. It was toxic.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: You know, a few arguments with groups, remember that was
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: to be good things. I remember in arguments at half
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: times or whatever it was. It was like with each
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: other and stuff.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: It was. It's not not a happy time. They talk
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: about regrets and things that you would change for me.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: That would be one thing. I mean, I never never
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: applied for the job going down there. I'd only been
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: a month, but my time again, I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: The only thing it did did stop me doing management again.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: You know that after United was it was quite It
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: was quite tough in the last sort of six months
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: it done United, but we had good moments, yeah, moments
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: at all, and that kind of took my appetite away
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: from doing that being involved in it again. You know,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: the management it was kind of and you and.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: It totally totally just a difficult hard got people that
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: aren you've the room before even step into for other reasons.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: kN that happens. It happens every every club, doesn't matter
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: where where it is.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: But a nice place.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Easy right, the night clubs, you've got any clubs in there?
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: What was the we did? What was the didn't she?
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: And then she ended up jumping into my pals coming
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: back up the road, and that I was just saying
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: coming up and they had up but they hadn't even
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: been sleep back on the training back up your pals.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Once she ended up on the train with them. It
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: was because I stid didn't made Danny and his missus
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: and so they were all right. They were actually quite
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: good for me. They were making the they were making
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: my dinners and I had soap. It was perfect Danny, right.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I forgot, but they did the same block.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: He was ooting the road rollers all the time, Danny,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: and that hight. I'm through putting the computers Chinese the PlayStation,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Oh god, so that's that's what I've done. Basically, was
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: on the Xbox or whatever and watch football night.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: See involved in football in any capacity now to be
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: man just just he playing.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: He's in hibs and now as well as doing well
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: to be fair good left it is all left fed.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: It's all lefty.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: So I think it's left.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Oh I don't know. I mean just something right fight anyway.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: But the left was all right, and I was practicing
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: to be fair. That was all through practice, and left
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: has always looked better as well. I think they do
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: look better left us.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: The stuff you'd pass on to him, would you pass
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: on your bodying?
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I just as long as he works hard. It's probably
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: thinly coming for me for working hard. But I just say,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: as long as you work hard, then's your football. I'll
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: do the talking anyways. Just work hard and I'll be
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: He's only eleven, but is it at that age where
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: his own zook came and you're there's no paying attention
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: and stuff. It's just obviously he's only young, so he's
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: he needs to pick up where he run and stuff,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: just but picking up passes and stuff. The set pieces.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: He does take some corners. Is the left winger plays
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: rooting the right right coming in coming in, but he does,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: he smokes. The boy hits it hard, like does He's
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: got a good good at finishing, to be honest, he's
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: got some some good goals already. But outside of that,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: taking him his football then taking them to Hibs games.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: So you don't have that hankering to get And the.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Only thing I would day would probably be I wouldn't
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: mind going to heights scout players and that's probably what
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I like, or finishing because you did just fish.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: You got that book four agency.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: It's hard pointless as well, Nah, I don't know, just finishing,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: finishing and scouting. I wouldn't mind got to watch players
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: and that because there's players that I've looked at only actually,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: well that's the only thing I would think, but assistant
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: managers and managers and coaching. I'd like to just be
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: in the background having a laugh, like yourself if you're
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: finishing and all that that type and like McCoys would
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: sort of day back in the day way Yeah, it's
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Scotland and stuff, just there for having the laugh, taking strikers.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: And I think there is higher levels now, but there
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: should be room for that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: You've got set piece.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Piece Corges, I know, but you can in the working
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: me young boys and finishing.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Just finishing and stuff. I it's like I already sort
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: of know. It's weird. You should. I think if you're
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: a decent player, you've got sortly roughly know what you're
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: doing before the boy even Yeah, get so you've got
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: that first touch, you can what you're doing. If you know,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: then thinkings are gone.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, would you actually think you like today's football though,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: in terms of the how they got the modern player
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: compare even your your time yea and I will.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Time just I just think the game is I don't know,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: I think football is mega change now. I mean I've
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: got to bring it. Hymns here, and I didn't. I
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: didn't like the whit Hims plays how they play. They
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: play with that back three or five as you want
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: to call it, so and my eyes are so taken
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: and taking a winger route rather than a defender. Do
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So that I'd rather have
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: a winger on and steady a wing back.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: I think when you've seen teams like that, it's because
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: you know you're you're five or your set and a
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: halfs a no mobile enough or good enough to play
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: in a four.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: I just didn't.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't like it. I don't like that. I didn't
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: like a back three or five. It's not for me.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: I prefer a four two or four four one for
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: free free water, while you want to put for two
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: three one preferred me attackers. Obviously, it depends the team
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: you're playing it and what type of as well. Obviously
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: these are the guys.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: That are on the ball the most, as the center
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: halfs and the goalie.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Yep, what I'm saying, just watched it, I'm saying, each
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: other and who's who did him just play last set
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: for Rangers? Well then, and the fans obviously the center half.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I've got the botto non stop. It's just going like
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: that to the wing back, saying back the back that way.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: It's just and they're very rarely having a shot. Fa
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: senter in the patch. Everything is doing there, whipped in
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: and to be honest, it's mostly for the left hand
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: side and whipped in and we've got the boy low.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: It's quite a big gladye came on right still. Even
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: the one we scored for it was it's actually played
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: a bad body.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: And playing behind them exactly I would watching it. I'm saying,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: put it on. They guy manages to get it in
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the class.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: But he looks all right, to be fair, he looks
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: at Ken's watch doing with the ball for the European game?
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Or was it Elder?
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: No?
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I was Elder and the mother well?
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Was it?
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Was it the mother Well? Was Eldon scored or was
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: it the shinder cut team?
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: What do you call him?
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: The European team?
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: No?
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: He scored the first against the Fursday night one and
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I think was it? I can't remember the b boy right,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: come on anyway, he was the one that turned the
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: boy inside. It cut across to he looks all right
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: on the boy kids watch doing I don't know if
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: he's fit enough on the bench.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Big pictures, well start that it's big now.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I've played on the charity marches were there feels like
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: you're running through go for a bit weird tiny I
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Celtic part as well, taking corners in that yachts and
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: a full scalp, a full scalping and just a lot
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: of smaller it was small. I prefer be honest. I
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: prefer the old, the old standing pitch so tight. I
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: prefer tink Castle, I tinkcastles. I pink Castle is the
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: best for your atmosphere. Then dead closeness and that don't
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: even it's probably dead tight, and I love plenty of
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: prefer that. I tink Castle is probably the best because
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: you've got park Heading that it's obviously huge and open,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: and Eyebrocks. I think I think Eyebrocks is louder cause
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: it's mare and closed and obviously park Head is obviously
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: loud when it comes to the Champions League nights on
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: the big games, and yeah, I prefer it. See if
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: you need to have the old firms were basically the
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: the teams in it, you can't you can't have the
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Rangers fans and that, and it just spoils the whole.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Even for players, it spoils it.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: You're playing the game an we're no fans, We're no
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Celtic fans.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: My first, my first game against Rangels. Because the plans
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: selling fans mckela Chenko equalize later on, we should probably
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: have win that game. We did all right. It was
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: it was mad. It was my first experience of that fixture.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: And there was because you played, you playing when the
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: park head was getting the.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Stand and Jackie came as well.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Don't remember that.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: That damp stands behind the goals it was empty. I
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: remember it was building.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: There was nothing behind one then and then the second
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: time it was my first season, I was ten.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: It was kind of trying and you come at the
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: coming to dugout. It was the left one that was nothing.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah nothing, yeah, I remember you scoring, maybe you as well,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: maybe you scored the money them Liverpool Liverpool one.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: But by the pitch I played a few games in
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: the pitch feels bigger, but it's it's age, mate, age,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: and you think back, how did we actually run this
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: pitch before?
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: As it's me but the picture is now our bowling
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: greens as well for the Boss Bobs, I don't find it,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: you go, I go find the week's wages. For the
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: East Road, it was life obviously on sky or whatever,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: but Habs had put green pellets, yeah, kind on the
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: pitch and it would honestly was like soon as you
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: stood on the dough was obviously come out in the
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: press and see his pictures are field outfield. Don't have
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: to go find for that. I seriously find for it.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Only just sau because fans can't really see what looks
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: like because it looks like green.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Wasn't it that game last season when Dundion heated beat Celtic?
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: But if you decide for the camera, I was actually
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: at the game and then after it you're looking it
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: was all like lined eye. It was. It was the
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Bobbles who eye. It was terrible.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: But Grad that's been bad for a bit though, wasn't it.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Mate? You've been a very good guest. We normally do
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: a recommendation of from a previous guest, but the last
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: one was Charlie Moigre. We forgot to do it with Charlie.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: So a last guest for the recommend ndation was comedian
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Corner Buns and it's a film, a song and an album.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: The mean you have spoken about music before. I don't
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: think we've got the same.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: In the guitars and no scoter, you're into your guitars,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: and I mean that I didn't mind it. I wouldn't
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: on if that makes it more dance music. I like
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: my eighties and that eighties eighties.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: So anyway, we've got Corner Bunn's recommendations here. So his
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: films Real Bravo, which I haven't seen.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: It's a classic. I'm going to watch.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: His album is a Guy. It's a country Western Tyler Childers, Childers,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Childers Childers.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: That's his music. That's his album, his album the Country.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: No, really, that's too much.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: People for that are dressed like cowboys at that point,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: money Field thing you like. I like cowboy books.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: I like every tight of music.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: And his song I think this was his coming on
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: song today money for Nothing Dire straight that song. That
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: was his song. So can you give us a recommendation
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: for our next guest? A film, an album, and a song.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Also, I need to pick a pick a film. Yeah,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: favorite film.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: One you would recommend you've seen recently?
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Watch I've watched Molly and Stay series, and that put
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: me on the spot.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Film song and an album your.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Favorite song, favorite song of My favorite song is Armin
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: van Elden. You don't know me. That's my favorite song.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Your pick, but that's quite all dish, that's your song.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Film and an album album.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know what pick album to Stay Serving two.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: I know I didn't know, but I don't know.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: I will do.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't know finishes with a film. Ille's a good film.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: I'll just try to think what your favorite what your
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: favorite film would be?
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: On the comedies, yeah, crime, the action, the ones, because
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: you know so it was like one of these, one
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: of the.
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  Speaker 3: Ones.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I was just about to say. I was on holiday
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: there and I sat with my we man its seventeen
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: and he watched.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Good Fellas, the first holiday ones you could say, you
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: could see it would.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: But I enjoyed that. I was sitting with my dam
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: and does that too much swearing? So me and my
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: boy watched the water after he went to his bed,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: and I said to him, if you like that, go
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: and watch Casino. So they watch that a.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Bit of thing, you know that.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: And he said to me after this is why why
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: does Joe Pesci get killed in them all, so they're
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: two good films because you know why, that's a good choice.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, Met.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: I'm during the probably I think you're ready looking on
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: the tv yet
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Mm hm