Latest / Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast / Why "Home" Matter So Much in Children's Books
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- 4:40Hi,
- 4:40my
- 4:40name
- 4:40is
- 4:41Cody
- 4:41Burke
- 4:41and
- 4:41I'm
- 4:42the
- 4:42author
- 4:42of
- 4:42Take
- 4:42Me
- 4:43Back
- 4:43to
- 4:43Oklahoma.
- 4:44Thanks,
- 4:44Cody,
- 4:45for
- 4:45appearing
- 4:46on
- 4:46the
- 4:46Adventures
- 4:46in
- 4:47the
- 4:47Heart
- 4:47of
- 4:47Children's
- 4:47Books
- 4:48Authors
- 4:48podcast.
- 4:50Cody
- 4:50has
- 4:51written
- 4:51a
- 4:51children's
- 4:52book,
- 4:52as
- 4:52he
- 4:52stated,
- 4:53take
- 4:53Me
- 4:53Back
- 4:53to
- 4:53Oklahoma.
- 4:54And
- 4:54I
- 4:54look
- 4:55forward
- 4:55to
- 4:55the
- 4:55conversation.
- 4:56It's
- 4:57interesting,
- 4:58Cody.
- 4:59Your
- 4:59book
- 4:59got
- 5:00me
- 5:00thinking
- 5:01over
- 5:01my
- 5:01lifetime
- 5:02about
- 5:03take
- 5:04me
- 5:04back
- 5:04to
- 5:05somewhere
- 5:05special.
- 5:06And
- 5:06actually
- 5:07there's
- 5:07two
- 5:07places
- 5:08in
- 5:08my
- 5:08life
- 5:08that
- 5:09I'd
- 5:09love
- 5:09to
- 5:10take
- 5:10me
- 5:10back
- 5:11to.
- 5:11It
- 5:12really
- 5:12got
- 5:12me
- 5:12thinking.
- 5:13I'm
- 5:13hoping
- 5:14that
- 5:14we
- 5:14can
- 5:14get
- 5:14people
- 5:15thinking
- 5:15about,
- 5:16ah,
- 5:17this
- 5:17is
- 5:17interesting.
- 5:18And
- 5:19where
- 5:19would
- 5:19I
- 5:19like
- 5:20to
- 5:20go
- 5:20back
- 5:20to?
- 5:21We'll
- 5:21jump
- 5:21right
- 5:21into
- 5:22that
- 5:22if
- 5:23you
- 5:23could
- 5:23tell
- 5:24me
- 5:26what
- 5:26children's
- 5:27book
- 5:27authorship
- 5:28means
- 5:28to
- 5:29you.
- 5:30What
- 5:30children's
- 5:31book
- 5:31authorship
- 5:32means
- 5:32to
- 5:32me
- 5:32is.
- 5:32It's
- 5:33more
- 5:33than
- 5:34with
- 5:35non
- 5:35children's
- 5:36authorship.
- 5:37I
- 5:37feel
- 5:37like
- 5:37ours
- 5:38comes
- 5:38with
- 5:38a
- 5:38little
- 5:38more
- 5:39weight
- 5:40and
- 5:41I
- 5:42don't
- 5:42want
- 5:42to
- 5:42say
- 5:42important,
- 5:43but
- 5:43important
- 5:44to
- 5:44future
- 5:45generations
- 5:45and
- 5:46the
- 5:46upcoming
- 5:46generations.
- 5:47Like
- 5:47I
- 5:47my
- 5:48word
- 5:48choice
- 5:48felt
- 5:49especially
- 5:49important
- 5:51because
- 5:51I
- 5:52knew
- 5:52that
- 5:52it
- 5:52could
- 5:53impact
- 5:53how
- 5:53children
- 5:54see
- 5:54where
- 5:55they
- 5:55grew
- 5:55up.
- 5:55And
- 5:56for
- 5:56me
- 5:56particularly
- 5:57Oklahoma
- 5:57and
- 5:58can
- 5:58see
- 5:58that
- 5:59our
- 5:59great
- 5:59state
- 5:59that
- 6:00not
- 6:00many
- 6:00think
- 6:01it's
- 6:01great.
- 6:01And
- 6:02it's
- 6:02funny
- 6:02because
- 6:02I
- 6:02interviewed
- 6:03Charlotte
- 6:03Glaze
- 6:04from
- 6:04Oklahoma
- 6:05episode
- 6:0523.
- 6:06She
- 6:06wrote
- 6:07a
- 6:07book
- 6:07called
- 6:07Storm
- 6:08Trucks
- 6:09and
- 6:09it's.
- 6:10And
- 6:10okay,
- 6:11so
- 6:11you
- 6:11can
- 6:11imagine
- 6:12the
- 6:12theme,
- 6:12but
- 6:13she
- 6:13loves
- 6:14it.
- 6:14Yeah.
- 6:15And.
- 6:15And
- 6:16so
- 6:16it's
- 6:17quite
- 6:17interesting.
- 6:18Tell
- 6:18me
- 6:18about
- 6:19the
- 6:19inspiration
- 6:20I'm
- 6:21gathering.
- 6:21Of
- 6:22course
- 6:22Oklahoma
- 6:23means
- 6:23something
- 6:23very
- 6:24special
- 6:24to
- 6:24you,
- 6:24but
- 6:25tell
- 6:25us
- 6:25the
- 6:26inspiration
- 6:27behind
- 6:28your
- 6:28book.
- 6:28What
- 6:28inspired
- 6:29you
- 6:29to
- 6:29write
- 6:29it.
- 6:31Absolutely.
- 6:32I
- 6:32grew
- 6:32up
- 6:32in
- 6:32Oklahoma
- 6:33for
- 6:3318
- 6:34years.
- 6:35My
- 6:35father
- 6:35is
- 6:36a
- 6:36historian
- 6:37of
- 6:37specifically
- 6:38Oklahoma
- 6:39history
- 6:39and
- 6:40also
- 6:40an
- 6:40author.
- 6:41And
- 6:41all
- 6:41of
- 6:41his
- 6:41books
- 6:42are
- 6:42either
- 6:42about
- 6:42Oklahoma
- 6:43or
- 6:43Oklahoman.
- 6:44But
- 6:44growing
- 6:45up,
- 6:45I
- 6:45did
- 6:45not
- 6:45appreciate
- 6:46it.
- 6:46I
- 6:47had
- 6:47a
- 6:47great
- 6:47childhood,
- 6:48but
- 6:48I
- 6:48was
- 6:49dying
- 6:49to
- 6:49move
- 6:49away.
- 6:50And
- 6:51so
- 6:51my
- 6:51parents
- 6:51encouraged
- 6:52me
- 6:52to
- 6:53go
- 6:53to
- 6:53college
- 6:54out
- 6:54of
- 6:54state,
- 6:54as
- 6:55did
- 6:55many
- 6:55of
- 6:55my
- 6:55siblings.
- 6:56And
- 6:57I
- 6:57went
- 6:57to
- 6:57school
- 6:57at
- 6:57Wake
- 6:58Forest
- 6:58University
- 6:58in
- 6:59North
- 6:59Carolina
- 6:59for
- 6:59undergrad.
- 7:00And
- 7:00while
- 7:01I
- 7:01was
- 7:01out
- 7:01there,
- 7:02I
- 7:02got
- 7:02homesick.
- 7:03And
- 7:03as
- 7:04every
- 7:04time
- 7:04I
- 7:05would
- 7:05go
- 7:05home
- 7:05or
- 7:06bring
- 7:06college
- 7:07friends
- 7:07back
- 7:07home,
- 7:07the
- 7:08things
- 7:08I
- 7:08showed
- 7:08them
- 7:09showed
- 7:09me
- 7:10how
- 7:10unique
- 7:11the
- 7:11state
- 7:11is
- 7:12and
- 7:12all
- 7:13of
- 7:13the
- 7:13things
- 7:13that
- 7:13are
- 7:13special
- 7:13about
- 7:14it.
- 7:14We
- 7:14have
- 7:14a
- 7:14very
- 7:14special
- 7:15and
- 7:15unique
- 7:16history
- 7:16compared
- 7:17to
- 7:17other
- 7:17states
- 7:17in
- 7:18that
- 7:18country.
- 7:19Our
- 7:19state
- 7:19has
- 7:20been
- 7:20important
- 7:20in
- 7:20a
- 7:21lot
- 7:21of
- 7:21things
- 7:21throughout
- 7:22American
- 7:22history,
- 7:23and
- 7:23I
- 7:24didn't
- 7:24appreciate
- 7:24that
- 7:24living
- 7:25there.
- 7:25So
- 7:25the
- 7:25book
- 7:25is
- 7:26my
- 7:26love
- 7:26letter
- 7:26to
- 7:27my
- 7:27home
- 7:28and
- 7:28to
- 7:29help
- 7:29other
- 7:29kids,
- 7:30particularly
- 7:30from
- 7:30Oklahoma.
- 7:31But
- 7:31really
- 7:31from
- 7:31anywhere,
- 7:32appreciate
- 7:32where
- 7:32they
- 7:32came
- 7:33from.
- 7:34Unfortunately,
- 7:35it
- 7:35makes
- 7:35leaving
- 7:36to
- 7:36do
- 7:36that.
- 7:36But
- 7:38I
- 7:38hope
- 7:38that
- 7:39kids
- 7:39can
- 7:39appreciate
- 7:39where
- 7:40they
- 7:40come
- 7:41from
- 7:41without
- 7:41having
- 7:41to
- 7:41leave.
- 7:43It's
- 7:43interesting
- 7:44you
- 7:44should
- 7:44say
- 7:44that,
- 7:45because
- 7:45my
- 7:45dad
- 7:46was
- 7:46in
- 7:46the
- 7:46armed
- 7:47forces,
- 7:47so
- 7:48we
- 7:48traveled
- 7:49a
- 7:49lot,
- 7:50and
- 7:50I
- 7:50lived
- 7:51in
- 7:5121
- 7:51different
- 7:52residences
- 7:53in
- 7:5320,
- 7:5421
- 7:54years
- 7:55of
- 7:55my
- 7:55life.
- 7:55But
- 7:55I,
- 7:56during
- 7:57those
- 7:5721
- 7:57years,
- 7:58I
- 7:58did
- 7:59find
- 7:59one
- 8:00place
- 8:00that
- 8:00I
- 8:01had
- 8:01that
- 8:01same
- 8:02feel
- 8:02as
- 8:02you
- 8:03had.
- 8:03And
- 8:03then
- 8:04in
- 8:04my
- 8:04adult
- 8:04life,
- 8:05the
- 8:05same
- 8:05kind
- 8:05of
- 8:05thing
- 8:06happened.
- 8:06So
- 8:07that's
- 8:07why
- 8:07the
- 8:07book
- 8:08resonates
- 8:09with
- 8:09me,
- 8:09because
- 8:09it's
- 8:10it
- 8:10really
- 8:11for
- 8:11anyone
- 8:12reading
- 8:12it.
- 8:12Like
- 8:13you
- 8:13said,
- 8:13they
- 8:13don't
- 8:13have
- 8:13to
- 8:14come
- 8:14from
- 8:14Oklahoma
- 8:15to
- 8:15appreciate
- 8:16the
- 8:16whole
- 8:17meaning
- 8:17behind
- 8:17the
- 8:18book.
- 8:19How
- 8:19did
- 8:19you
- 8:19start
- 8:20it?
- 8:20Here
- 8:20we
- 8:20are.
- 8:21You've
- 8:21gone,
- 8:21you've
- 8:22moved
- 8:22out
- 8:23of
- 8:23the
- 8:23state.
- 8:24You've
- 8:24done
- 8:25your
- 8:25university.
- 8:26You
- 8:26now
- 8:27have
- 8:27a
- 8:27career.
- 8:28And
- 8:30so
- 8:30tell
- 8:30us,
- 8:30how
- 8:31did
- 8:31this
- 8:31all
- 8:31start?
- 8:32How
- 8:33did
- 8:33you
- 8:33start
- 8:33this
- 8:33love
- 8:34letter
- 8:34to
- 8:34Oklahoma?
- 8:37Actually,
- 8:38the
- 8:38year
- 8:38Prior,
- 8:39though,
- 8:39around
- 8:402021,
- 8:45I
- 8:45had
- 8:45the
- 8:46idea
- 8:46to
- 8:46write
- 8:47a
- 8:47children's
- 8:48book.
- 8:48My
- 8:48father,
- 8:49for
- 8:49his
- 8:4975th
- 8:50birthday.
- 8:50So
- 8:50he's
- 8:50written
- 8:51countless.
- 8:52He's
- 8:52written,
- 8:52I
- 8:53think,
- 8:53around
- 8:53170
- 8:54books
- 8:55all
- 8:55about
- 8:55Oklahoma
- 8:56or
- 8:56Oklahoman
- 8:57and
- 8:57many
- 8:57of
- 8:57those
- 8:58Bing
- 8:58biographies.
- 8:59And
- 8:59so
- 9:00for
- 9:00his
- 9:0075th
- 9:00birthday,
- 9:01I
- 9:01had
- 9:01the
- 9:01idea
- 9:02to
- 9:02write
- 9:02a
- 9:02children's
- 9:03book
- 9:03to
- 9:04go
- 9:04into
- 9:04the.
- 9:04There's
- 9:05a
- 9:05series
- 9:05from
- 9:05the
- 9:06Oklahoma
- 9:06hall
- 9:06of
- 9:06Fame
- 9:06called
- 9:07I
- 9:07Am
- 9:07Oklahoma.
- 9:08I
- 9:08can't
- 9:08think
- 9:08of
- 9:08anyone
- 9:09who's
- 9:09more
- 9:09Oklahoma
- 9:10than
- 9:10my
- 9:10father.
- 9:11So
- 9:11I
- 9:11wrote
- 9:11his
- 9:12biography
- 9:12without
- 9:13him
- 9:13knowing.
- 9:14I
- 9:14got
- 9:14a
- 9:14quote
- 9:15from
- 9:15the
- 9:16former
- 9:16governor
- 9:16of
- 9:17the
- 9:17state,
- 9:18people
- 9:18who
- 9:18practice
- 9:19law
- 9:19with
- 9:19him
- 9:19or
- 9:19people
- 9:19whose
- 9:20biographies
- 9:20he's
- 9:21written.
- 9:21I
- 9:21used
- 9:22my
- 9:22family
- 9:22to
- 9:22help
- 9:22and
- 9:23then
- 9:23surprised
- 9:23it
- 9:23to
- 9:24him.
- 9:24Then
- 9:24we
- 9:25got
- 9:25it
- 9:25published,
- 9:25and
- 9:25it's
- 9:26a
- 9:26really
- 9:26sweet
- 9:26book.
- 9:27I
- 9:27loved
- 9:27the
- 9:28process
- 9:28and
- 9:29that
- 9:29was
- 9:29my
- 9:29love
- 9:29letter
- 9:30to
- 9:30my
- 9:30dad.
- 9:30But
- 9:31I
- 9:31felt
- 9:31I
- 9:31owed
- 9:32it
- 9:32to
- 9:32my
- 9:33dad
- 9:33and
- 9:34myself
- 9:35and
- 9:35where
- 9:35I
- 9:35grew
- 9:35up
- 9:35to
- 9:36do
- 9:36something
- 9:37similar
- 9:37for
- 9:37Uncle
- 9:38Homa.
- 9:38So
- 9:39the
- 9:39protagonist
- 9:40is
- 9:40a
- 9:40little
- 9:40boy,
- 9:41and
- 9:41while
- 9:41his
- 9:41name
- 9:41is
- 9:41not
- 9:42Cody,
- 9:42like
- 9:42me,
- 9:43he
- 9:43is
- 9:43me
- 9:44innocent.
- 9:45Oh,
- 9:45good.
- 9:46And
- 9:46so
- 9:47did
- 9:47you
- 9:48wrote
- 9:48your
- 9:48second
- 9:49children's
- 9:49book
- 9:49is
- 9:50one
- 9:50to
- 9:50your
- 9:50dad.
- 9:51So
- 9:51you
- 9:51wrote
- 9:51it
- 9:52after
- 9:52the
- 9:52one
- 9:52you
- 9:53wrote
- 9:53to
- 9:53your
- 9:53dad?
- 9:54Yes.
- 9:56Okay.
- 9:56The
- 9:56idea
- 9:57stemmed
- 9:57from
- 9:57that.
- 9:58All
- 9:58right.
- 9:59You're
- 9:59a
- 10:00published
- 10:00author
- 10:00of
- 10:00two
- 10:01children's
- 10:01books,
- 10:02is
- 10:02that
- 10:02correct?
- 10:03I
- 10:03am.
- 10:04Okay.
- 10:04And
- 10:06tell
- 10:06us
- 10:07a
- 10:07little
- 10:07bit
- 10:07about
- 10:09besides
- 10:11writing
- 10:13something
- 10:14to
- 10:14your
- 10:14dad
- 10:15and
- 10:15then,
- 10:16like
- 10:16you
- 10:17said,
- 10:17a
- 10:17love
- 10:17letter
- 10:18to
- 10:18the
- 10:18state
- 10:18of
- 10:19Oklahoma.
- 10:20Have
- 10:20you
- 10:20thought
- 10:20about.
- 10:21Okay,
- 10:21now
- 10:22how
- 10:22do
- 10:22I
- 10:22build
- 10:23a
- 10:23book
- 10:23business
- 10:24plan
- 10:24to
- 10:25support
- 10:25this
- 10:25book.
- 10:26So
- 10:26what
- 10:27was
- 10:27your
- 10:27intention?
- 10:29I
- 10:29would
- 10:29say
- 10:29my
- 10:29intention
- 10:30was
- 10:31I
- 10:31want
- 10:31it
- 10:31to
- 10:31be
- 10:32in
- 10:32the
- 10:32hands
- 10:32of
- 10:33kids
- 10:33in
- 10:33Oklahoma,
- 10:34but
- 10:34also
- 10:34anywhere
- 10:36and
- 10:36in
- 10:37schools
- 10:38whenever
- 10:39they're
- 10:39learning
- 10:39about
- 10:39their
- 10:40home.
- 10:40I
- 10:40think
- 10:40in
- 10:40Oklahoma
- 10:41a
- 10:41teacher
- 10:41could
- 10:42use
- 10:42this
- 10:42and
- 10:42I've
- 10:43written
- 10:43lesson
- 10:43plans.
- 10:44Oklahoma
- 10:45teacher
- 10:45could
- 10:45use
- 10:46this
- 10:46when
- 10:46they
- 10:46learn
- 10:46about
- 10:47their
- 10:47home
- 10:47state.
- 10:48And
- 10:48then
- 10:48even
- 10:49teachers
- 10:49in
- 10:50other
- 10:50states
- 10:51could
- 10:51use
- 10:51the
- 10:51same
- 10:52way
- 10:52and
- 10:52then
- 10:52they
- 10:52connect
- 10:53it
- 10:53back
- 10:53to
- 10:53the
- 10:53state
- 10:53they
- 10:54grew
- 10:54up
- 10:54in
- 10:54or
- 10:54the
- 10:55country
- 10:55or
- 10:55Providence
- 10:56they
- 10:56grew
- 10:56up
- 10:56in.
- 10:57Oh,
- 10:57neat.
- 10:57So
- 10:58did
- 10:58you.
- 10:58So
- 10:59you
- 10:59said
- 10:59you
- 10:59developed
- 11:00a
- 11:00lesson
- 11:00plan.
- 11:02I've
- 11:02developed
- 11:03a
- 11:03few
- 11:03and
- 11:04have
- 11:04sent
- 11:04them
- 11:04out
- 11:04to
- 11:04some
- 11:05teachers
- 11:06who
- 11:06I
- 11:06know
- 11:06have
- 11:06bought
- 11:06the
- 11:07book
- 11:07in
- 11:07Oklahoma.
- 11:08Has
- 11:08anybody
- 11:09used
- 11:09it
- 11:10in
- 11:10the
- 11:10classroom
- 11:10setting?
- 11:12I'm
- 11:13not
- 11:13sure
- 11:13yet,
- 11:13but
- 11:13I
- 11:14hope
- 11:14they
- 11:14do
- 11:14soon
- 11:14now
- 11:15that
- 11:15we're
- 11:15back
- 11:15in
- 11:15full
- 11:15swing
- 11:16in
- 11:16the
- 11:16school
- 11:16year.
- 11:17Fantastic.
- 11:17What
- 11:18a
- 11:18great
- 11:18idea.
- 11:18And
- 11:18that's
- 11:19the
- 11:19first
- 11:19time
- 11:19I've
- 11:19ever
- 11:20heard
- 11:20anyone
- 11:21use
- 11:21that
- 11:21technique
- 11:22to
- 11:23build
- 11:23out
- 11:23their
- 11:24book
- 11:24business
- 11:24plan.
- 11:25So
- 11:25thank
- 11:25you
- 11:25for
- 11:26sharing.
- 11:26Of
- 11:26course.
- 11:26I'm
- 11:27a
- 11:27full
- 11:27time
- 11:27educator
- 11:28so
- 11:28that's
- 11:28always
- 11:28on
- 11:29the
- 11:29top
- 11:29of
- 11:29my
- 11:30mind.
- 11:30Tell
- 11:31us
- 11:31a
- 11:31little
- 11:31bit.
- 11:31I
- 11:32know
- 11:32your
- 11:32book
- 11:33comes
- 11:33in
- 11:33three
- 11:34formats.
- 11:35A
- 11:35soft
- 11:35cover,
- 11:35a
- 11:36hard
- 11:36cover
- 11:37and
- 11:37an
- 11:37ebook
- 11:38format.
- 11:39So
- 11:39tell
- 11:39us
- 11:39a
- 11:39little
- 11:40bit
- 11:40about
- 11:40each
- 11:41of
- 11:41those
- 11:42formats
- 11:43and
- 11:43where
- 11:43are
- 11:43you
- 11:44selling
- 11:44them?
- 11:46Yes,
- 11:46they
- 11:46can
- 11:47be
- 11:47found
- 11:47on
- 11:48on
- 11:48Amazon
- 11:49or
- 11:49anywhere
- 11:50that
- 11:50you
- 11:50can
- 11:50buy
- 11:50book
- 11:51and
- 11:52on
- 11:52Yorkshire
- 11:53Publishing
- 11:53website,
- 11:54my
- 11:54publisher.
- 11:55But
- 11:55they
- 11:55can
- 11:55be
- 11:56fine
- 11:56anywhere
- 11:56where
- 11:56books
- 11:57are
- 11:57sold.
- 11:57I
- 11:58prefer
- 11:58the
- 11:58hardcover
- 11:59because
- 11:59I
- 11:59love
- 12:00to
- 12:00hold
- 12:00the
- 12:01book.
- 12:01I
- 12:01find
- 12:01it
- 12:01to
- 12:01be
- 12:01durable.
- 12:02The
- 12:03Kindle
- 12:03and
- 12:03Nook
- 12:04versions
- 12:04are
- 12:04great
- 12:05for
- 12:05people
- 12:05who
- 12:06like
- 12:06to
- 12:06read
- 12:06digitally.
- 12:07I
- 12:07personally
- 12:08don't
- 12:08like
- 12:08to
- 12:09like
- 12:09we
- 12:09look
- 12:09at
- 12:09screen
- 12:10so
- 12:10often
- 12:10that
- 12:10I
- 12:10love
- 12:10to
- 12:11just
- 12:11hold
- 12:11the
- 12:11book.
- 12:12I
- 12:12think
- 12:12there's
- 12:12a
- 12:12lot
- 12:13in
- 12:13getting
- 12:13to
- 12:13hold
- 12:13the
- 12:14page
- 12:14and
- 12:14flip
- 12:14the
- 12:14page
- 12:15and
- 12:15draw
- 12:16on
- 12:16the
- 12:16page,
- 12:17interact
- 12:17with
- 12:18it
- 12:18tactilely.
- 12:19I
- 12:19prefer
- 12:19the
- 12:20hardcover,
- 12:20but
- 12:20they're
- 12:20all
- 12:21available
- 12:21everywhere.
- 12:22Good
- 12:22for
- 12:22you.
- 12:23I
- 12:23always
- 12:23mention
- 12:24to
- 12:24people
- 12:24there's
- 12:25really
- 12:25three
- 12:25types
- 12:26of
- 12:26publishing.
- 12:27You've
- 12:27got
- 12:28indie
- 12:28publishing
- 12:28where
- 12:29you're
- 12:29the
- 12:29publisher,
- 12:30you've
- 12:30got
- 12:31self
- 12:31publishing
- 12:32or
- 12:32hybrid
- 12:32publishing
- 12:33and
- 12:34then
- 12:34you've
- 12:34got
- 12:34traditional
- 12:35publishing
- 12:36and
- 12:36I
- 12:36believe
- 12:36you've
- 12:37gone
- 12:37through
- 12:38Yorkshire
- 12:38publishing
- 12:40and
- 12:41they
- 12:41are
- 12:41a
- 12:42hybrid
- 12:42self
- 12:43publisher.
- 12:44They
- 12:45do
- 12:45hybrid
- 12:45self
- 12:46publishing
- 12:46and
- 12:46they
- 12:46do
- 12:47traditional
- 12:48publishing.
- 12:48And
- 12:48so
- 12:48this
- 12:49book
- 12:49is
- 12:49traditionally
- 12:49published,
- 12:50which
- 12:50has
- 12:51been
- 12:51wonderful.
- 12:52Oh
- 12:53fantastic.
- 12:53But
- 12:54the
- 12:54neat
- 12:54thing
- 12:54about
- 12:56even
- 12:56though
- 12:57it's
- 12:57being
- 12:57traditionally
- 12:58published,
- 12:58were
- 12:59you
- 12:59involved
- 13:00in
- 13:01the
- 13:01development
- 13:02of
- 13:02the
- 13:03illustrations?
- 13:05So
- 13:05even
- 13:06before
- 13:06I
- 13:06reached
- 13:07out
- 13:07to
- 13:07publishers,
- 13:08I
- 13:08wanted
- 13:09specifically
- 13:09to
- 13:09have
- 13:09an
- 13:10illustrator
- 13:10from
- 13:10Oklahoma.
- 13:11And
- 13:11so
- 13:12I
- 13:12worked
- 13:12with
- 13:12an
- 13:12illustrator
- 13:13named
- 13:13Camilla
- 13:14Crittenden
- 13:14and
- 13:15we
- 13:15developed
- 13:15the
- 13:15book
- 13:16completely
- 13:16before
- 13:17taking
- 13:17it
- 13:18anywhere.
- 13:19Oh,
- 13:19fantastic.
- 13:20Now
- 13:20I
- 13:20have
- 13:21never
- 13:21talked
- 13:21to
- 13:22anyone
- 13:22that's
- 13:22done
- 13:22that
- 13:23before.
- 13:23So
- 13:24you
- 13:24actually
- 13:25wrote
- 13:25the
- 13:25book.
- 13:26You
- 13:26found
- 13:27an
- 13:27illustrator
- 13:28from
- 13:28Oklahoma,
- 13:28which
- 13:29is
- 13:29pretty
- 13:29cool.
- 13:30Was
- 13:30she
- 13:30born
- 13:30in
- 13:30Oklahoma?
- 13:32Yes,
- 13:32he's
- 13:33born
- 13:33in
- 13:33Oklahoma,
- 13:33but
- 13:33like
- 13:34me,
- 13:34no
- 13:34longer
- 13:34lives
- 13:35in
- 13:35Oklahoma.
- 13:35Okay,
- 13:36and
- 13:36how
- 13:36did
- 13:37you
- 13:37find
- 13:37your
- 13:38illustrator?
- 13:38Like,
- 13:38how
- 13:39did
- 13:39you
- 13:39find
- 13:39an
- 13:39illustrator.
- 13:40From
- 13:41Oklahoma
- 13:43on
- 13:43just
- 13:43search
- 13:44on
- 13:44a
- 13:44search
- 13:44engine.
- 13:45I
- 13:45just
- 13:45did
- 13:46keywords.
- 13:46So
- 13:47Illustrator,
- 13:48like
- 13:48looking
- 13:49for
- 13:49work,
- 13:49Oklahoma
- 13:50and
- 13:50combed
- 13:51through
- 13:51countless
- 13:52number
- 13:52and
- 13:53I
- 13:53really
- 13:53enjoyed
- 13:53her
- 13:53art
- 13:54style.
- 13:55And
- 13:55I
- 13:55am
- 13:56very
- 13:56particular.
- 13:56So
- 13:57I
- 13:57wanted
- 13:57to
- 13:58develop
- 13:58things
- 13:59before
- 14:00the
- 14:00eyes
- 14:00and
- 14:01mouth
- 14:01of
- 14:01a
- 14:01publisher.
- 14:03Wow.
- 14:03Wow.
- 14:04You
- 14:04both
- 14:05collaborated
- 14:05together.
- 14:07You
- 14:07produced
- 14:08the
- 14:08book
- 14:08and
- 14:09what
- 14:09kind
- 14:09of
- 14:09files
- 14:09did
- 14:10you
- 14:10have
- 14:11that
- 14:11now
- 14:11when
- 14:12you
- 14:12took
- 14:12it
- 14:12to
- 14:13Yorkshire
- 14:13Publishing
- 14:14and
- 14:14said,
- 14:15we'd
- 14:15like
- 14:15you
- 14:15to
- 14:16publish
- 14:16this,
- 14:16and
- 14:17they
- 14:17said,
- 14:17this
- 14:17is
- 14:17great.
- 14:18We'll
- 14:18do
- 14:18a
- 14:19traditional
- 14:19publishing
- 14:20deal
- 14:21with
- 14:21you.
- 14:21Explain
- 14:22all
- 14:22that.
- 14:24It's
- 14:24pretty
- 14:24simple
- 14:25process.
- 14:25They
- 14:25did
- 14:25have
- 14:26some
- 14:26things
- 14:26that
- 14:26they
- 14:27thought
- 14:27would
- 14:27be
- 14:27best
- 14:28to
- 14:28change,
- 14:28whether
- 14:29it
- 14:29was
- 14:29colors
- 14:30on
- 14:30a
- 14:30page
- 14:30or
- 14:31words.
- 14:31And
- 14:31me
- 14:32and
- 14:32Illustrator
- 14:32were
- 14:32able
- 14:33to
- 14:33do
- 14:33that
- 14:33pretty
- 14:34seamlessly.
- 14:35I'm
- 14:35not
- 14:35sure
- 14:35of
- 14:35all
- 14:35the
- 14:35file
- 14:36types
- 14:36and
- 14:36everything.
- 14:37I
- 14:37would
- 14:37just
- 14:37pass
- 14:38those
- 14:38along
- 14:38because
- 14:39I'm
- 14:39not
- 14:39a
- 14:39very
- 14:39techy
- 14:40person.
- 14:41Okay.
- 14:41It
- 14:41went
- 14:42really
- 14:42smoothly
- 14:43and
- 14:44it
- 14:44was
- 14:44a
- 14:45long
- 14:45process
- 14:45because
- 14:46of
- 14:46how
- 14:46publishing
- 14:47works.
- 14:47But
- 14:47it
- 14:48was
- 14:48more
- 14:48than
- 14:49how
- 14:49the
- 14:49book
- 14:50was
- 14:50delivered
- 14:50to
- 14:51them
- 14:51is
- 14:52not
- 14:52far
- 14:52off
- 14:53from
- 14:53the
- 14:53final
- 14:53product.
- 14:54Okay,
- 14:55so
- 14:56when
- 14:56you
- 14:56say
- 14:56deliver
- 14:56to
- 14:57them,
- 14:57did
- 14:57you
- 14:58guys
- 14:58deliver
- 14:58it
- 14:59like
- 14:59a
- 14:59hard
- 14:59copy
- 15:00or
- 15:00did
- 15:01you
- 15:01deliver
- 15:01it
- 15:02through
- 15:02a
- 15:02digital
- 15:03copy?
- 15:03How
- 15:04did
- 15:04you
- 15:04deliver
- 15:04it?
- 15:06So
- 15:07we.
- 15:07The
- 15:08COVID
- 15:08and
- 15:08back
- 15:08cover
- 15:09were
- 15:09designed,
- 15:09but
- 15:09we
- 15:10didn't
- 15:10have
- 15:10the
- 15:10publishing
- 15:11page
- 15:11and
- 15:12we
- 15:12had
- 15:12never
- 15:12printed
- 15:13it
- 15:13or
- 15:13anything.
- 15:13So
- 15:14it
- 15:14was
- 15:14just
- 15:15like
- 15:15files
- 15:16of
- 15:16the
- 15:16illustrations
- 15:17with
- 15:17the
- 15:17words
- 15:17on
- 15:17top.
- 15:18Oh,
- 15:18wow.
- 15:20You
- 15:20know
- 15:20what?
- 15:20Thank
- 15:20you
- 15:20for
- 15:21sharing
- 15:21that
- 15:21because
- 15:21I.
- 15:22You're
- 15:22the
- 15:22first
- 15:23one.
- 15:23I
- 15:23think
- 15:23you're
- 15:24my
- 15:2449th
- 15:25or
- 15:2550th
- 15:26children's
- 15:27book
- 15:27interview,
- 15:28and
- 15:28I've.
- 15:29No
- 15:29one's
- 15:29ever
- 15:29said,
- 15:30wow,
- 15:30this
- 15:30is
- 15:30what
- 15:30I've
- 15:31done.
- 15:31Pretty
- 15:32remarkable.
- 15:33Hats
- 15:33off
- 15:33to
- 15:34you
- 15:34and
- 15:34your
- 15:35illustrator.
- 15:37Tell
- 15:37us
- 15:38about
- 15:38the.
- 15:39Are
- 15:39you
- 15:39sharing
- 15:41the
- 15:41book
- 15:42with
- 15:42the
- 15:42illustrator?
- 15:43Like,
- 15:43how
- 15:43does
- 15:43that
- 15:44work
- 15:44with
- 15:44the
- 15:44publishing
- 15:45rights
- 15:45and
- 15:45stuff
- 15:46like
- 15:46that?
- 15:48I
- 15:49am
- 15:49the
- 15:49contract
- 15:50holder,
- 15:50so
- 15:51the
- 15:51book
- 15:51technically
- 15:52belongs
- 15:52to
- 15:53me.
- 15:53But
- 15:53we
- 15:54have
- 15:54a
- 15:54great
- 15:54relationship
- 15:55and
- 15:55we
- 15:55are
- 15:55like
- 15:55still
- 15:56collaborating
- 15:56together
- 15:57on
- 15:57other
- 15:57things.
- 15:58So
- 15:58it's
- 15:59nice
- 15:59there.
- 16:00Terrific.
- 16:00And
- 16:01in
- 16:01terms
- 16:01of
- 16:02compensation,
- 16:02did
- 16:03you
- 16:03pay
- 16:04for
- 16:04the
- 16:04illustrations,
- 16:06or
- 16:07is
- 16:07your
- 16:08illustrator
- 16:08earning
- 16:09part
- 16:09of
- 16:09the
- 16:09revenue?
- 16:10How
- 16:10is
- 16:10that
- 16:10working?
- 16:12I
- 16:12paid
- 16:13for
- 16:13them.
- 16:14Okay.
- 16:14Okay.
- 16:15So
- 16:15that's
- 16:15good
- 16:15to
- 16:15know.
- 16:16I
- 16:16just
- 16:16want
- 16:16to
- 16:16be
- 16:16clear
- 16:17with
- 16:17people
- 16:17as
- 16:17they.
- 16:18Because
- 16:18a
- 16:18lot
- 16:18of
- 16:19our
- 16:19listeners
- 16:20are
- 16:20aspiring
- 16:21children's
- 16:21book
- 16:21authors.
- 16:22And
- 16:22so
- 16:23I
- 16:23just
- 16:23want
- 16:23to
- 16:23make
- 16:23sure
- 16:23I'm
- 16:24clear
- 16:24with
- 16:24them
- 16:24so
- 16:25they
- 16:25understand
- 16:25that
- 16:26in
- 16:26this
- 16:26case,
- 16:27you
- 16:27made
- 16:28sure
- 16:28that
- 16:28the
- 16:28illustrator
- 16:29was
- 16:29compensated
- 16:30for
- 16:30the
- 16:31illustrations.
- 16:33Yeah,
- 16:34I
- 16:34wanted
- 16:34to
- 16:34be
- 16:35sure
- 16:35of
- 16:35that.
- 16:35Okay,
- 16:36great.
- 16:37And
- 16:37so
- 16:38now
- 16:38I
- 16:38can
- 16:38understand.
- 16:39Like,
- 16:39I
- 16:39noticed
- 16:40you
- 16:41and
- 16:41the
- 16:41illustrator
- 16:42share
- 16:43the
- 16:43back
- 16:43of
- 16:43the
- 16:43books
- 16:44where
- 16:44it
- 16:45describes
- 16:45you
- 16:45as
- 16:46the
- 16:46author
- 16:47and
- 16:47your
- 16:47illustrator.
- 16:48Also,
- 16:50like,
- 16:50you
- 16:50got
- 16:50equal
- 16:51billing.
- 16:52Yeah,
- 16:54the
- 16:54idea
- 16:55was
- 16:55mine
- 16:55and
- 16:55the
- 16:55words
- 16:55were
- 16:55mine.
- 16:56I
- 16:56felt
- 16:56she
- 16:56did
- 16:57just
- 16:57as
- 16:57much
- 16:57work
- 16:57as
- 16:58I
- 16:58did.
- 16:59Okay,
- 16:59terrific.
- 17:00And
- 17:00thanks
- 17:00for
- 17:00saying
- 17:01that,
- 17:01because
- 17:01I
- 17:02found
- 17:02that
- 17:04almost
- 17:04to
- 17:04the
- 17:05person,
- 17:05children's
- 17:06book
- 17:06authors
- 17:07are
- 17:07so
- 17:08happy
- 17:09with
- 17:09their
- 17:09relationship
- 17:10with
- 17:10their
- 17:10illustrator.
- 17:11Thank
- 17:12you
- 17:12for
- 17:12sharing
- 17:13that.
- 17:13Tell
- 17:14us
- 17:14about,
- 17:15as
- 17:15a
- 17:15published
- 17:16children's
- 17:16book
- 17:17author,
- 17:17tell
- 17:17us
- 17:18about
- 17:19your
- 17:19website.
- 17:20How
- 17:20do
- 17:21you
- 17:21see
- 17:22developing
- 17:23it
- 17:23with
- 17:24your
- 17:24books?
- 17:26How
- 17:26do
- 17:26I
- 17:26see
- 17:26developing
- 17:27my
- 17:27website?
- 17:27Is
- 17:28that
- 17:28what
- 17:28you
- 17:28asked?
- 17:28Yes.
- 17:30I
- 17:31am
- 17:31not
- 17:31a
- 17:31very
- 17:32online
- 17:32person,
- 17:34and
- 17:34so
- 17:34it
- 17:34is
- 17:34hard
- 17:35for
- 17:35me.
- 17:35I
- 17:36struggle
- 17:36with
- 17:36the
- 17:37putting
- 17:37it
- 17:37out
- 17:38there
- 17:38and
- 17:38promoting
- 17:39it,
- 17:39but
- 17:39I
- 17:40do
- 17:40have.
- 17:40Cody
- 17:40Burke.com
- 17:41is
- 17:41my
- 17:41author's
- 17:41website,
- 17:42and
- 17:42I
- 17:42made
- 17:42that
- 17:43entirely
- 17:43myself.
- 17:44It
- 17:45is
- 17:45not
- 17:45very
- 17:45flashy,
- 17:46but
- 17:46I
- 17:46think
- 17:46it's
- 17:46very
- 17:47functional
- 17:47and
- 17:48I
- 17:48think
- 17:49it
- 17:49looks
- 17:49nice.
- 17:49I
- 17:49would
- 17:50like
- 17:50to
- 17:50say
- 17:50it
- 17:50looks
- 17:50nice.
- 17:51Great.
- 17:51And
- 17:52it's
- 17:52important.
- 17:52Again,
- 17:53I
- 17:53tell
- 17:53everybody,
- 17:54you
- 17:54don't
- 17:54have
- 17:54to
- 17:54be
- 17:55a
- 17:55tech
- 17:55genius,
- 17:57but
- 17:57it's
- 17:57important
- 17:57you
- 17:58have
- 17:58a
- 17:58home
- 17:58for
- 17:58your
- 17:59book.
- 17:59So
- 18:00that.
- 18:01And
- 18:01that's
- 18:01what
- 18:01you've
- 18:01done.
- 18:02You've
- 18:02accomplished
- 18:02that.
- 18:03And
- 18:03it
- 18:03sounds
- 18:04like
- 18:04you're
- 18:04working
- 18:04on
- 18:05some
- 18:05other
- 18:05stuff
- 18:05that
- 18:06could
- 18:06end
- 18:06up
- 18:06on
- 18:06your
- 18:06website.
- 18:08Yes,
- 18:09I
- 18:09am.
- 18:09Okay.
- 18:10And
- 18:10social
- 18:11media.
- 18:12Did
- 18:12you
- 18:12use
- 18:13Instagram
- 18:15to
- 18:15introduce
- 18:15your
- 18:17book
- 18:17to
- 18:17your
- 18:18followers
- 18:18or
- 18:19tell
- 18:19us
- 18:19about
- 18:19that
- 18:20experience?
- 18:20How
- 18:20did
- 18:21you
- 18:21talk
- 18:21to
- 18:22potential
- 18:23children's
- 18:24book
- 18:24readers?
- 18:26Okay,
- 18:26I
- 18:27am.
- 18:27I
- 18:27grew
- 18:28up
- 18:28with
- 18:28Instagram,
- 18:29luckily.
- 18:29So
- 18:29I've
- 18:29had
- 18:30an
- 18:30Instagram
- 18:30more
- 18:30than
- 18:31half
- 18:31of
- 18:31my
- 18:31life,
- 18:31which
- 18:32sounds
- 18:32crazy
- 18:33to
- 18:33say,
- 18:33but
- 18:34I
- 18:34have
- 18:35about
- 18:3514,
- 18:361500
- 18:36followers.
- 18:37Many
- 18:37of
- 18:37them
- 18:37are
- 18:37people
- 18:38I
- 18:38know
- 18:38in
- 18:38real
- 18:38life,
- 18:39and
- 18:39now
- 18:39at
- 18:40my
- 18:40age,
- 18:40many
- 18:41of
- 18:41them
- 18:41have
- 18:41kids.
- 18:41So
- 18:42I
- 18:42rolled
- 18:42it
- 18:42out
- 18:43on
- 18:43there
- 18:44across
- 18:44my
- 18:44stories
- 18:45and
- 18:45a
- 18:45few
- 18:46posts,
- 18:47mainly
- 18:47for
- 18:47either
- 18:48people
- 18:48I
- 18:48know
- 18:48who
- 18:48have
- 18:49children
- 18:49or
- 18:49people
- 18:49who
- 18:50are
- 18:50happy
- 18:50to
- 18:51support
- 18:51me.
- 18:51And
- 18:52I
- 18:52know
- 18:52a
- 18:52lot.
- 18:52It
- 18:52was
- 18:53shared
- 18:53a
- 18:53lot
- 18:53with
- 18:54just
- 18:54my
- 18:55friends
- 18:55or
- 18:55people
- 18:56who
- 18:56know
- 18:56me
- 18:56followers.
- 18:57And
- 18:57so
- 18:57I
- 18:57was
- 18:58happy
- 18:58with
- 18:58the
- 18:58reach
- 18:58from
- 18:59that.
- 18:59Okay,
- 19:00terrific.
- 19:01Did
- 19:01you
- 19:01have
- 19:01on
- 19:01the
- 19:02back
- 19:02of
- 19:02your
- 19:02mind
- 19:03as
- 19:04you
- 19:04started
- 19:05to
- 19:05work
- 19:05on
- 19:05your
- 19:05book
- 19:06that
- 19:06the
- 19:07Instagram
- 19:07approach.
- 19:08Did
- 19:08you
- 19:09develop
- 19:09like
- 19:10a
- 19:10strategy
- 19:11in
- 19:12advance
- 19:12of
- 19:12your
- 19:12book
- 19:13on
- 19:13how
- 19:13you
- 19:13were
- 19:13going
- 19:14to
- 19:14post
- 19:14it
- 19:15to
- 19:15Instagram?
- 19:17Yes,
- 19:17I
- 19:18had
- 19:18planned
- 19:18over
- 19:18a
- 19:19few
- 19:19weeks
- 19:19to.
- 19:20Okay,
- 19:20here
- 19:20it
- 19:21is.
- 19:21You
- 19:21can
- 19:21pre
- 19:21order
- 19:22it.
- 19:22We're
- 19:22getting
- 19:23closer.
- 19:23Here's
- 19:24what
- 19:24it
- 19:24is.
- 19:24And
- 19:24I
- 19:25explained
- 19:25it
- 19:25more.
- 19:25And
- 19:26then
- 19:26the
- 19:26day
- 19:26of
- 19:26and
- 19:27the
- 19:27following
- 19:27week,
- 19:28I
- 19:28guided
- 19:29people
- 19:29on
- 19:29where
- 19:29they
- 19:29could
- 19:29purchase
- 19:30it
- 19:30and
- 19:31what
- 19:31it
- 19:31meant
- 19:31to
- 19:31me
- 19:31and
- 19:32what
- 19:32it
- 19:32could
- 19:32mean
- 19:32to
- 19:32them.
- 19:33Terrific.
- 19:34How
- 19:34does
- 19:35you
- 19:35see
- 19:35it
- 19:35working
- 19:36for
- 19:36you
- 19:36where
- 19:36they're.
- 19:37Did
- 19:37some
- 19:38of
- 19:38your
- 19:38followers
- 19:39get
- 19:41engaged
- 19:42and
- 19:42help
- 19:43you
- 19:43market
- 19:44it
- 19:44even
- 19:44broader?
- 19:46I
- 19:46believe,
- 19:46though
- 19:47I
- 19:47think
- 19:47the
- 19:47share
- 19:48from
- 19:49other
- 19:49people
- 19:50and
- 19:50people
- 19:50I
- 19:51knew,
- 19:51a
- 19:51lot
- 19:51of
- 19:51people
- 19:52and
- 19:52many
- 19:52people
- 19:52I
- 19:53didn't
- 19:53know
- 19:53make
- 19:53posts
- 19:54about
- 19:54it,
- 19:54and
- 19:55that
- 19:55was
- 19:55helpful
- 19:56as
- 19:56well
- 19:56as
- 19:56the
- 19:57publisher
- 19:58did
- 19:58a
- 19:58pretty
- 19:59big
- 19:59rollout
- 19:59for
- 20:00it
- 20:00and
- 20:00continue
- 20:01to
- 20:01post
- 20:02about
- 20:02it.
- 20:03Okay.
- 20:04At
- 20:04the
- 20:04beginning,
- 20:05you
- 20:05talked
- 20:05about,
- 20:06I
- 20:06believe
- 20:06your
- 20:06character's
- 20:07name
- 20:07is
- 20:07Thomas,
- 20:09and.
- 20:09Yes,
- 20:09sir.
- 20:10And
- 20:10you
- 20:10said
- 20:11it's
- 20:12really
- 20:12a
- 20:12reflection
- 20:13of
- 20:13Cody.
- 20:14Yeah.
- 20:15Tell
- 20:15us
- 20:15how
- 20:15you
- 20:16came
- 20:16up
- 20:16with
- 20:16the
- 20:17name
- 20:17Thomas
- 20:18and
- 20:20tell
- 20:20us
- 20:21about
- 20:21the
- 20:21whole
- 20:22motivation,
- 20:24how
- 20:24you
- 20:24saw
- 20:24yourself
- 20:25in
- 20:25that
- 20:26story.
- 20:27I
- 20:27truly
- 20:27believe
- 20:28that
- 20:28everything
- 20:28I
- 20:28ever
- 20:29write,
- 20:29whether
- 20:30that
- 20:30be
- 20:30a
- 20:30novel,
- 20:31children's
- 20:31book,
- 20:31or
- 20:31a
- 20:32play,
- 20:32will
- 20:32be
- 20:32a
- 20:32reflection
- 20:33of
- 20:33me.
- 20:35That's
- 20:35just
- 20:35where
- 20:35all
- 20:36of
- 20:36my
- 20:36ideas
- 20:36come
- 20:36from.
- 20:37Some
- 20:37reflection
- 20:37of
- 20:38me.
- 20:38But
- 20:38I
- 20:39don't
- 20:39want
- 20:39every
- 20:39character
- 20:40I
- 20:40ever
- 20:40write
- 20:40to
- 20:40be
- 20:40named
- 20:40Cody.
- 20:42And
- 20:42so
- 20:43I
- 20:43thought,
- 20:43I
- 20:43tried
- 20:44to
- 20:44think
- 20:44back
- 20:44to
- 20:44the
- 20:45age
- 20:45that
- 20:45this
- 20:46character
- 20:46was.
- 20:47And
- 20:47what
- 20:47I
- 20:47loved
- 20:48more
- 20:48than
- 20:48anything
- 20:48in
- 20:49the
- 20:49world
- 20:49at
- 20:49this
- 20:49age
- 20:50was
- 20:50Thomas
- 20:50the
- 20:50Tank
- 20:51Engine.
- 20:51So
- 20:51he
- 20:52is
- 20:52named
- 20:52after
- 20:52Thomas
- 20:52the
- 20:53Tank
- 20:53Engine.
- 20:53Okay.
- 20:54Thank
- 20:54you
- 20:54for
- 20:55sharing
- 20:55that.
- 20:56Because
- 20:56it's
- 20:56always
- 20:56interesting
- 20:57about
- 20:57how
- 20:58we
- 20:58come
- 20:58up
- 20:58with
- 20:58the
- 20:59different
- 20:59names
- 20:59for
- 21:00our
- 21:00characters.
- 21:01So
- 21:01thank
- 21:01you
- 21:01for
- 21:02sharing
- 21:02that.
- 21:03And
- 21:03as
- 21:04you
- 21:04wrote
- 21:05the
- 21:05book,
- 21:07were
- 21:07a
- 21:07lot
- 21:07of
- 21:08the
- 21:09happenings
- 21:11that
- 21:11was
- 21:11your
- 21:11life?
- 21:13Yeah,
- 21:13they're
- 21:14thoughts
- 21:14I
- 21:14can
- 21:14remember
- 21:15having.
- 21:15I
- 21:16remember
- 21:16being
- 21:16on
- 21:16road
- 21:16trips
- 21:17and
- 21:17thinking,
- 21:17wow,
- 21:18this
- 21:18is
- 21:18so
- 21:18boring.
- 21:19And
- 21:19my
- 21:19father,
- 21:19who's
- 21:20a
- 21:20historian,
- 21:20I
- 21:20did
- 21:21not
- 21:21appreciate
- 21:22when
- 21:22I
- 21:22grew
- 21:22up,
- 21:23every
- 21:23town
- 21:23we
- 21:24passed
- 21:24on
- 21:24a
- 21:24road
- 21:24trip
- 21:25to
- 21:25see
- 21:25my
- 21:25grandma,
- 21:25he
- 21:26would
- 21:26know
- 21:27the
- 21:27population,
- 21:28what
- 21:28famous
- 21:29people
- 21:29were
- 21:29from
- 21:29there,
- 21:29what
- 21:30it's
- 21:30known
- 21:30for,
- 21:30when
- 21:31it
- 21:31was
- 21:31founded.
- 21:31And
- 21:32I
- 21:32could
- 21:32not
- 21:32have
- 21:32cared
- 21:33less.
- 21:34And
- 21:34as
- 21:35an
- 21:35adult,
- 21:35I
- 21:35appreciate
- 21:36all
- 21:36of
- 21:36those
- 21:36things.
- 21:36And
- 21:37I
- 21:37love
- 21:37that
- 21:37my
- 21:37dad
- 21:37knows
- 21:38all
- 21:38of
- 21:38that.
- 21:38But
- 21:39as
- 21:39a
- 21:39kid,
- 21:39I
- 21:39just
- 21:39remember
- 21:40hearing.
- 21:40I
- 21:40heard.
- 21:41I
- 21:41always
- 21:42think
- 21:42that
- 21:42I
- 21:42Know
- 21:42the
- 21:42second
- 21:43most
- 21:43about
- 21:43Oklahoma
- 21:44of
- 21:44anyone
- 21:44ever
- 21:45because
- 21:45I
- 21:45listened
- 21:45to
- 21:46my
- 21:46dad
- 21:46talk,
- 21:46you
- 21:46know,
- 21:47the
- 21:47most,
- 21:48and
- 21:48I
- 21:48thought
- 21:49I
- 21:49just.
- 21:49I
- 21:50didn't
- 21:50see
- 21:50the
- 21:50value
- 21:50in
- 21:51it
- 21:51until
- 21:51I
- 21:51got
- 21:51to
- 21:51see
- 21:52the
- 21:52rest.
- 21:52We
- 21:52were
- 21:52well
- 21:53traveled,
- 21:53but
- 21:53I
- 21:54never
- 21:54lived
- 21:54anywhere
- 21:54else
- 21:55until
- 21:55undergrad.
- 21:56And
- 21:56then
- 21:56being
- 21:56out
- 21:56there
- 21:57and
- 21:57seeing
- 21:58everything
- 21:59made
- 21:59me
- 21:59appreciate
- 22:00it
- 22:00afterwards.
- 22:01Wow.
- 22:02Talk
- 22:02to
- 22:02us
- 22:03a
- 22:03little
- 22:03bit
- 22:03about
- 22:03the
- 22:04character
- 22:04development
- 22:05of
- 22:05Thomas.
- 22:06Tell
- 22:06us
- 22:08what
- 22:08was
- 22:08your
- 22:09approach
- 22:10to
- 22:10Thomas
- 22:11like?
- 22:11How
- 22:12did
- 22:12you
- 22:12develop
- 22:13him?
- 22:15I
- 22:15know
- 22:15you
- 22:15said
- 22:15you
- 22:16drew
- 22:16your
- 22:16own
- 22:16personal
- 22:17experiences,
- 22:17but
- 22:18did
- 22:18you.
- 22:19Was
- 22:20there
- 22:20anything
- 22:20else
- 22:21that
- 22:21motivated
- 22:21you
- 22:22in
- 22:22the
- 22:22development
- 22:23of
- 22:23his
- 22:23character?
- 22:25I
- 22:25wanted
- 22:25him
- 22:25to
- 22:26be
- 22:26relatable.
- 22:27I
- 22:27wanted
- 22:28him
- 22:28to
- 22:28be
- 22:28true
- 22:28to
- 22:28me,
- 22:29and
- 22:30I
- 22:30wanted
- 22:30him.
- 22:31I
- 22:31did
- 22:32not
- 22:32realize
- 22:32as
- 22:32a
- 22:32child,
- 22:33I
- 22:33wanted
- 22:34him
- 22:34to
- 22:34be
- 22:34different
- 22:34from
- 22:34me,
- 22:35but
- 22:35I
- 22:35wanted
- 22:35him
- 22:35to
- 22:36realize
- 22:37and
- 22:37name
- 22:38as
- 22:38many
- 22:38things
- 22:39he
- 22:39could
- 22:39think
- 22:39about
- 22:39that
- 22:40made
- 22:40Oklahoma
- 22:41a
- 22:41unique
- 22:42and
- 22:42special
- 22:42place
- 22:42as
- 22:43he
- 22:43could.
- 22:43And
- 22:44so
- 22:44it
- 22:44all
- 22:44led
- 22:44back
- 22:44to
- 22:45that.
- 22:45So
- 22:45everywhere
- 22:46he
- 22:46went,
- 22:47he
- 22:47takes
- 22:47something
- 22:48back
- 22:48from
- 22:48that
- 22:49and
- 22:49realizes
- 22:50what's
- 22:50special
- 22:51about
- 22:51his
- 22:52home.
- 22:52Did
- 22:52you
- 22:53sneak
- 22:53a
- 22:53little
- 22:53of
- 22:53your
- 22:54dad's
- 22:54personality
- 22:55into
- 22:55Thomas?
- 22:58I
- 22:58think
- 22:58I
- 22:58did
- 22:58at
- 22:59the
- 22:59end
- 22:59there.
- 23:01Yeah.
- 23:03I
- 23:04love
- 23:04how
- 23:05take.
- 23:05Your
- 23:06title
- 23:06says
- 23:06it
- 23:06all.
- 23:07So
- 23:07you
- 23:07could
- 23:07say,
- 23:08take,
- 23:08take
- 23:08me
- 23:08back
- 23:09to.
- 23:10And
- 23:10you
- 23:10could
- 23:10substitute
- 23:12whatever
- 23:13you
- 23:13anywhere
- 23:14that
- 23:14to
- 23:14me
- 23:15that
- 23:15as
- 23:16soon
- 23:16as
- 23:16I
- 23:16read
- 23:16your
- 23:16book,
- 23:17that
- 23:17stuck
- 23:17with
- 23:17me
- 23:18and
- 23:18I
- 23:18thought,
- 23:18ah,
- 23:19this.
- 23:19I
- 23:20took
- 23:20myself
- 23:20back
- 23:21like
- 23:21I
- 23:21described
- 23:22to
- 23:22you.
- 23:23Tell
- 23:23us
- 23:23how
- 23:23you
- 23:25developed
- 23:25that
- 23:26theme.
- 23:27Describe
- 23:29how
- 23:29it
- 23:30became
- 23:30an
- 23:30extension
- 23:31of
- 23:31your
- 23:31life.
- 23:32Yeah,
- 23:33it's
- 23:33pretty
- 23:33simple.
- 23:34As
- 23:34a
- 23:34kid,
- 23:34it
- 23:35was
- 23:35always,
- 23:35get
- 23:35me
- 23:35out
- 23:35of
- 23:36Oklahoma.
- 23:36Get
- 23:36me
- 23:37out
- 23:37of
- 23:37here.
- 23:37And
- 23:37that's
- 23:38first
- 23:38sentence
- 23:39in
- 23:39the
- 23:39book.
- 23:39And
- 23:40then
- 23:40as
- 23:40soon
- 23:40as
- 23:40I
- 23:41became
- 23:41adult,
- 23:41it
- 23:41was
- 23:41take
- 23:42me
- 23:42back.
- 23:43Which
- 23:44is
- 23:44funny
- 23:44because
- 23:44I
- 23:44currently
- 23:45don't
- 23:45live
- 23:45there.
- 23:46But
- 23:47I
- 23:47will
- 23:48always
- 23:48love
- 23:48Oklahoma
- 23:49and
- 23:49I
- 23:49do
- 23:49visit
- 23:49often.
- 23:50Oh,
- 23:50good
- 23:50for
- 23:51you.
- 23:51Good
- 23:51for
- 23:51you.
- 23:53You
- 23:53mentioned
- 23:54you're
- 23:54an
- 23:54educator.
- 23:56I
- 23:56am.
- 23:57And
- 23:58I
- 23:58know
- 23:58you
- 23:59said
- 23:59you
- 23:59made
- 23:59up
- 23:59a
- 24:00lesson
- 24:00plan
- 24:01for
- 24:01your
- 24:02book
- 24:02for
- 24:03other
- 24:03teachers
- 24:04that
- 24:04you've
- 24:04reached
- 24:04out
- 24:05to,
- 24:05but
- 24:06tell
- 24:06us
- 24:06about
- 24:06your
- 24:07how
- 24:07you
- 24:07have
- 24:08you
- 24:08incorporated
- 24:09your
- 24:10story.
- 24:10I
- 24:10know.
- 24:11I
- 24:11think
- 24:11you.
- 24:12Your
- 24:12students
- 24:13are
- 24:13older,
- 24:14correct?
- 24:15Yeah,
- 24:15I
- 24:15teach.
- 24:16I
- 24:16have
- 24:16taught
- 24:17elementary,
- 24:17but
- 24:17Now
- 24:17I
- 24:17teach
- 24:188th
- 24:18grade
- 24:18and
- 24:18high
- 24:19school.
- 24:19Okay.
- 24:20Have
- 24:20you
- 24:21tried
- 24:21to
- 24:21sneak
- 24:22using
- 24:22your
- 24:23own
- 24:23book
- 24:25into
- 24:26your
- 24:27current
- 24:27teaching?
- 24:28I
- 24:29have
- 24:29actually.
- 24:30The
- 24:30first
- 24:30novel
- 24:31I
- 24:31teach
- 24:31every
- 24:32year
- 24:32in
- 24:32my
- 24:32eighth
- 24:32grade
- 24:32English
- 24:33class
- 24:33is
- 24:33the
- 24:33Outsider,
- 24:34which
- 24:34is
- 24:34by
- 24:35S.E.
- 24:35hinton,
- 24:36which
- 24:36is
- 24:36my
- 24:36favorite
- 24:36book
- 24:37of
- 24:37all
- 24:37time.
- 24:37And
- 24:38it
- 24:38is
- 24:38set
- 24:38in
- 24:38Tulsa,
- 24:39Oklahoma.
- 24:40And
- 24:40so
- 24:41on
- 24:41the
- 24:41day
- 24:41that
- 24:41for
- 24:42the
- 24:42first
- 24:42time
- 24:42this
- 24:42year,
- 24:43on
- 24:43the
- 24:43day
- 24:43that
- 24:44we
- 24:44do
- 24:45a
- 24:45deep
- 24:45dive
- 24:46into
- 24:46Oklahoma
- 24:47in
- 24:47the
- 24:471950s,
- 24:48I
- 24:49did
- 24:49show
- 24:50a
- 24:50few
- 24:50excerpts
- 24:51from
- 24:51my
- 24:51book,
- 24:52and
- 24:52then
- 24:52at
- 24:52the
- 24:52end
- 24:53told
- 24:53them
- 24:53that
- 24:53it
- 24:53was
- 24:53my
- 24:54book.
- 24:55And
- 24:55it
- 24:55was
- 24:56pretty
- 24:56sweet
- 24:56to
- 24:56see
- 24:56their
- 24:56reaction.
- 24:57That's
- 24:58fantastic.
- 24:58Do
- 24:59you
- 24:59see
- 24:59yourself
- 25:00continuing
- 25:00that
- 25:01practice
- 25:02as
- 25:02you
- 25:02get
- 25:02new
- 25:02students
- 25:03every
- 25:03year?
- 25:04I
- 25:04think
- 25:04I'll
- 25:05probably
- 25:05do
- 25:05this
- 25:05every
- 25:05year.
- 25:06Good
- 25:06for
- 25:07you.
- 25:07That's
- 25:07that.
- 25:07What.
- 25:08You
- 25:08have
- 25:08a
- 25:08blast
- 25:09teaching
- 25:09this.
- 25:09So
- 25:10that
- 25:10made
- 25:10it
- 25:10even
- 25:10more
- 25:11fun.
- 25:12That
- 25:12is
- 25:13so
- 25:13neat.
- 25:13Because
- 25:13a
- 25:14lot
- 25:14of
- 25:14my
- 25:14guests
- 25:14are
- 25:15either
- 25:15currently
- 25:15teaching
- 25:17or
- 25:17are
- 25:18retired
- 25:19teachers.
- 25:19And
- 25:20so
- 25:20it's
- 25:20nice
- 25:21of
- 25:21you
- 25:21to
- 25:21share
- 25:22the
- 25:22technique
- 25:23that
- 25:23you
- 25:24use
- 25:25incorporating
- 25:26into
- 25:26your
- 25:26classroom.
- 25:27So
- 25:27even
- 25:27though
- 25:28your
- 25:28students
- 25:28are
- 25:29older,
- 25:30you're
- 25:30able
- 25:30to
- 25:30adjust
- 25:31it
- 25:31and
- 25:32give
- 25:32it
- 25:33almost
- 25:33as
- 25:33a
- 25:33gift
- 25:34in
- 25:35their
- 25:35learning.
- 25:36Yeah.
- 25:38Now,
- 25:38tell
- 25:38us
- 25:38about
- 25:39your
- 25:39writing
- 25:40process.
- 25:40So
- 25:41you've
- 25:41written
- 25:41two
- 25:42books,
- 25:43and
- 25:44first
- 25:44of
- 25:44all,
- 25:44share.
- 25:45Share
- 25:45how.
- 25:46And
- 25:47maybe
- 25:47it
- 25:47piggybacked.
- 25:48I'm
- 25:48not
- 25:48quite
- 25:49sure,
- 25:49but
- 25:50share
- 25:50how
- 25:51you
- 25:51wrote
- 25:52the
- 25:52book.
- 25:52To
- 25:52your
- 25:53dad,
- 25:54you
- 25:54said,
- 25:54it's
- 25:54a
- 25:54children's
- 25:55book,
- 25:55and
- 25:55then
- 25:56you,
- 25:57of
- 25:57course,
- 25:57wrote
- 25:58your
- 25:58current
- 25:58book.
- 26:00Tell
- 26:00us
- 26:00about
- 26:00that
- 26:01whole
- 26:01process.
- 26:02So
- 26:02the
- 26:03ideas
- 26:03just
- 26:03both
- 26:04came
- 26:04to
- 26:04me
- 26:04and
- 26:05I.
- 26:06One
- 26:06of
- 26:06my
- 26:06biggest
- 26:07things
- 26:07in
- 26:07my
- 26:07life
- 26:08is,
- 26:08and
- 26:08I
- 26:08tell
- 26:09this
- 26:09to
- 26:09my
- 26:09students,
- 26:10and
- 26:10I
- 26:10don't
- 26:10like
- 26:10to
- 26:11count
- 26:11my
- 26:11chickens
- 26:11before
- 26:12they
- 26:12hatch,
- 26:13so
- 26:13I
- 26:13keep
- 26:13things
- 26:14very
- 26:14close
- 26:14to
- 26:14myself
- 26:15until
- 26:16they
- 26:16come
- 26:16to
- 26:16fruition,
- 26:17though,
- 26:18other
- 26:18than
- 26:18my
- 26:18parents,
- 26:19no
- 26:19one
- 26:19knew
- 26:19I
- 26:19was
- 26:19writing
- 26:20these.
- 26:20And
- 26:20all
- 26:20of
- 26:20a
- 26:20sudden,
- 26:21hi,
- 26:21these
- 26:21books
- 26:22are
- 26:22coming
- 26:22out.
- 26:23Here
- 26:23they
- 26:23are.
- 26:25They're
- 26:25going
- 26:25to
- 26:26come
- 26:26out.
- 26:26Here
- 26:26they
- 26:26are.
- 26:26And
- 26:27so
- 26:27it.
- 26:28I
- 26:28thought
- 26:28it
- 26:28would
- 26:28surprise
- 26:29people,
- 26:29but
- 26:29people
- 26:29around
- 26:30me
- 26:30told
- 26:30me
- 26:30they
- 26:31absolutely
- 26:32saw
- 26:32this
- 26:32coming
- 26:32because
- 26:33I'm
- 26:33an
- 26:33English
- 26:33teacher,
- 26:34I
- 26:35love
- 26:35work
- 26:35with
- 26:35children,
- 26:36and
- 26:37they
- 26:37were
- 26:37surprised
- 26:37I
- 26:38hadn't
- 26:38written
- 26:38one
- 26:38sooner.
- 26:39And
- 26:39so
- 26:40it
- 26:40was.
- 26:40It
- 26:40all
- 26:41happened.
- 26:43As
- 26:43far
- 26:43as
- 26:44research,
- 26:45because
- 26:45of
- 26:45your
- 26:46exposure
- 26:46to
- 26:46your
- 26:47dad,
- 26:47you
- 26:47probably
- 26:48didn't
- 26:48have
- 26:48to
- 26:49do
- 26:49much
- 26:49research,
- 26:50or
- 26:50did
- 26:50you?
- 26:51I
- 26:52had
- 26:52to
- 26:52do
- 26:52a
- 26:52lot
- 26:52because
- 26:53my
- 26:53father
- 26:5350
- 26:54years
- 26:54older
- 26:54than
- 26:54me,
- 26:55so
- 26:55I
- 26:55wasn't
- 26:56there
- 26:56for
- 26:56the
- 26:56first
- 26:5650
- 26:56years.
- 26:57So
- 26:57I
- 26:57had
- 26:58to
- 26:58do
- 26:58a
- 26:58good
- 26:58bit,
- 26:58actually.
- 26:59Okay.
- 27:00And
- 27:00did
- 27:00you
- 27:00use
- 27:01him
- 27:01as
- 27:02one
- 27:02of
- 27:02your
- 27:03research?
- 27:05No,
- 27:05I
- 27:06actually
- 27:06surprised
- 27:07it
- 27:07with
- 27:07him
- 27:07on
- 27:08a
- 27:08family
- 27:08vacation.
- 27:09I
- 27:10surprised
- 27:11him
- 27:11with
- 27:11the
- 27:11finished,
- 27:12completed
- 27:12illustrated
- 27:13book,
- 27:13and
- 27:14it
- 27:14is
- 27:14a
- 27:14nonfiction
- 27:15book,
- 27:15so
- 27:15I
- 27:15guess
- 27:15illustrated,
- 27:16not
- 27:16the
- 27:16right
- 27:16word,
- 27:16but
- 27:17designed
- 27:17and
- 27:17with
- 27:18pictures
- 27:18and.
- 27:19No,
- 27:19he
- 27:19had
- 27:19no
- 27:19idea.
- 27:20I'm
- 27:21shocked
- 27:21that
- 27:22no
- 27:22one
- 27:22told
- 27:23him
- 27:24so.
- 27:24He
- 27:24was
- 27:24never
- 27:25expecting
- 27:25you
- 27:25to
- 27:26embrace
- 27:26authorship
- 27:27like
- 27:27you
- 27:28did?
- 27:30I'm
- 27:30sure
- 27:30he
- 27:30expected
- 27:31me
- 27:31to,
- 27:31but
- 27:31not
- 27:32about
- 27:32Him.
- 27:33Okay.
- 27:34Interesting.
- 27:36And.
- 27:38Success.
- 27:39I'm
- 27:39always
- 27:40interested
- 27:40in
- 27:41how
- 27:42you
- 27:42would
- 27:42measure
- 27:42success.
- 27:43So
- 27:43I
- 27:43know
- 27:44with
- 27:44your
- 27:44dad,
- 27:46just
- 27:46that
- 27:46alone
- 27:47probably
- 27:48was
- 27:48very
- 27:48gratifying.
- 27:50What
- 27:50about
- 27:50the
- 27:50rest
- 27:50of
- 27:51the
- 27:51members
- 27:51of
- 27:51your
- 27:51family,
- 27:52like
- 27:52your
- 27:52siblings,
- 27:53your
- 27:54mom,
- 27:55what
- 27:55was
- 27:55their
- 27:55reaction?
- 27:58Everyone
- 27:58cried.
- 27:59It's
- 27:59a
- 28:00very
- 28:00sweet
- 28:00book
- 28:00and
- 28:01my
- 28:01dad's
- 28:02everyone's
- 28:02favorite
- 28:03man.
- 28:03And
- 28:04so
- 28:04it
- 28:04was
- 28:04pretty
- 28:04great
- 28:05reactions.
- 28:05And
- 28:05then
- 28:06he
- 28:07does
- 28:07a
- 28:07lot
- 28:08of
- 28:08his
- 28:08book
- 28:08signings
- 28:08at
- 28:09the
- 28:09Oklahoma
- 28:09hall
- 28:09of
- 28:09Fame
- 28:10and
- 28:10we
- 28:11did
- 28:11a
- 28:11co
- 28:11book
- 28:11signing,
- 28:12so
- 28:12we
- 28:13both
- 28:13signed
- 28:13it.
- 28:13And
- 28:14that
- 28:14was
- 28:14one
- 28:14of
- 28:14a
- 28:14very
- 28:15special
- 28:15night
- 28:16as
- 28:16a
- 28:16lot
- 28:16of
- 28:17people
- 28:17from
- 28:17both
- 28:17of
- 28:18our
- 28:18lives
- 28:18came
- 28:18and
- 28:19we
- 28:19wore
- 28:19suits
- 28:19and
- 28:20it
- 28:20was.
- 28:21It
- 28:21was
- 28:21really
- 28:21sweet.
- 28:21So
- 28:22the
- 28:22whole
- 28:22process
- 28:22was
- 28:22good.
- 28:23But
- 28:23now
- 28:23I
- 28:23joke
- 28:24that
- 28:24none
- 28:24of
- 28:24my
- 28:24siblings
- 28:25will
- 28:25ever
- 28:25be
- 28:25able
- 28:25to
- 28:26give
- 28:26a
- 28:26better
- 28:26gift
- 28:27than
- 28:27I
- 28:27am,
- 28:27so
- 28:28that
- 28:28I'm
- 28:28the
- 28:28favorite
- 28:29from
- 28:29forever.
- 28:30Amazing.
- 28:31Just
- 28:31amazing.
- 28:32And
- 28:33talk
- 28:33to
- 28:33us
- 28:33now
- 28:34about
- 28:35your
- 28:35current
- 28:35book
- 28:36and
- 28:36how
- 28:36you're
- 28:37trying
- 28:37to
- 28:37measure
- 28:37success
- 28:38with
- 28:38this
- 28:38book.
- 28:40I
- 28:42don't
- 28:43measure
- 28:43success
- 28:43for
- 28:44authoring,
- 28:45at
- 28:45least
- 28:45right
- 28:45now
- 28:45in
- 28:46like
- 28:46monetary
- 28:46terms.
- 28:47I
- 28:48think
- 28:48success
- 28:48for
- 28:49me
- 28:49would
- 28:49be
- 28:52a
- 28:52child
- 28:53in
- 28:54Oklahoma,
- 28:55like
- 28:56appreciates
- 28:56Oklahoma
- 28:57a
- 28:57little
- 28:57more
- 28:57after
- 28:58reading
- 28:58it.
- 28:58I
- 28:58think
- 28:59if
- 28:59that
- 28:59happens
- 28:59once,
- 28:59then
- 29:00I
- 29:00would
- 29:00consider
- 29:00the
- 29:01book
- 29:01a
- 29:01success.
- 29:02Okay.
- 29:02And
- 29:02you
- 29:03said
- 29:03you
- 29:03go
- 29:03back
- 29:04often
- 29:04to
- 29:04Oklahoma,
- 29:05so
- 29:06do
- 29:06you
- 29:06tie
- 29:07any
- 29:07book
- 29:08readings
- 29:09or
- 29:09go
- 29:10to.
- 29:10Yes.
- 29:11Okay,
- 29:11tell
- 29:12us
- 29:12about.
- 29:12Yeah,
- 29:12Yorkshire
- 29:13Publishing
- 29:13is
- 29:14wonderful
- 29:14because
- 29:14they
- 29:15have
- 29:15set
- 29:16everything
- 29:16up
- 29:16for
- 29:16me
- 29:17and
- 29:17they
- 29:17tell
- 29:18me
- 29:18when
- 29:18they
- 29:18ask
- 29:19me
- 29:19my
- 29:19dates
- 29:19of
- 29:20in
- 29:20Oklahoma
- 29:20and
- 29:20then
- 29:21they
- 29:21tell
- 29:21me
- 29:21when
- 29:21and
- 29:21where
- 29:22and
- 29:22I
- 29:22will
- 29:22show
- 29:22up
- 29:22and
- 29:23happily
- 29:24do
- 29:24a
- 29:24reading
- 29:25or
- 29:25a.
- 29:25An
- 29:26author
- 29:26event.
- 29:26And
- 29:27I
- 29:27have
- 29:27enjoyed
- 29:27those.
- 29:28It
- 29:28feel
- 29:28it's
- 29:29not
- 29:29in
- 29:29my
- 29:29nature
- 29:29to
- 29:30ask
- 29:30people
- 29:30to
- 29:31buy
- 29:31something
- 29:31that
- 29:32is
- 29:32a
- 29:32product
- 29:32of
- 29:32mine,
- 29:33but
- 29:33I'm
- 29:34working
- 29:34on
- 29:34it.
- 29:34Good
- 29:35for
- 29:35you.
- 29:36And
- 29:36so
- 29:36when
- 29:37they
- 29:37line
- 29:37up
- 29:38the
- 29:38events,
- 29:38are
- 29:39they
- 29:39primarily
- 29:41at
- 29:41libraries
- 29:42or
- 29:42bookstores
- 29:43or
- 29:43schools?
- 29:44What's
- 29:44it
- 29:44look
- 29:45like
- 29:45when
- 29:45you
- 29:45go
- 29:45back?
- 29:47I
- 29:47would
- 29:47love
- 29:47to
- 29:48do
- 29:48school.
- 29:48Unfortunately,
- 29:49as
- 29:50a
- 29:50teacher,
- 29:50I
- 29:50have
- 29:51not
- 29:51been
- 29:51back
- 29:51to
- 29:52Oklahoma
- 29:52since
- 29:52the
- 29:52book
- 29:52came
- 29:53out
- 29:53at
- 29:53a
- 29:53time
- 29:54when
- 29:54school
- 29:54would
- 29:54be
- 29:54in
- 29:54session.
- 29:55Okay.
- 29:55Because
- 29:56I
- 29:56have
- 29:56my
- 29:56own
- 29:56school
- 29:57in
- 29:57session.
- 29:57But
- 29:57I
- 29:57would
- 29:57love
- 29:58to
- 29:58go
- 29:58into
- 29:58schools.
- 30:00So
- 30:00hopefully
- 30:00I
- 30:01will
- 30:01do
- 30:01that.
- 30:01Primarily
- 30:02store
- 30:02bookstores
- 30:03or
- 30:04libraries.
- 30:05It's
- 30:05been
- 30:05primary.
- 30:07It's
- 30:07been
- 30:07bookstores
- 30:08and
- 30:08library.
- 30:09Okay.
- 30:09And
- 30:10tell
- 30:10us
- 30:10about
- 30:10that
- 30:11experience.
- 30:12They've
- 30:13been
- 30:13good
- 30:13experiences
- 30:14and
- 30:15they've
- 30:15been
- 30:15beneficial
- 30:16to
- 30:16the
- 30:16business
- 30:17side
- 30:17of
- 30:17the
- 30:17book.
- 30:18It's
- 30:18easy
- 30:18for
- 30:18me
- 30:19to
- 30:19talk
- 30:19to
- 30:19people
- 30:19out
- 30:19my
- 30:20book,
- 30:20hard
- 30:20for
- 30:20me
- 30:20to
- 30:22try
- 30:22to
- 30:22get
- 30:22people
- 30:23over.
- 30:23But
- 30:24the
- 30:25for
- 30:25the
- 30:25author
- 30:25event,
- 30:26but
- 30:26for
- 30:26the
- 30:26reading.
- 30:27I
- 30:27read
- 30:27out
- 30:27loud
- 30:28at
- 30:28work
- 30:28every
- 30:29day.
- 30:29And
- 30:29so
- 30:29it's
- 30:30special.
- 30:30It.
- 30:31I
- 30:32really
- 30:32enjoy
- 30:32reading
- 30:33to
- 30:33children.
- 30:34Fantastic.
- 30:36Now,
- 30:37the
- 30:38role
- 30:38of
- 30:38writing.
- 30:39So
- 30:39as
- 30:40an
- 30:40educator,
- 30:40as
- 30:41an
- 30:42English
- 30:42teacher,
- 30:44tell
- 30:45us
- 30:45the
- 30:45role
- 30:46of
- 30:46writing,
- 30:47especially
- 30:47from
- 30:48a
- 30:48children's
- 30:48book
- 30:49author's
- 30:49point
- 30:50of
- 30:50view.
- 30:50Are
- 30:50you
- 30:51continuing
- 30:51to
- 30:51write
- 30:52more
- 30:52children's
- 30:53book
- 30:53stories?
- 30:55And
- 30:56I.
- 30:58More
- 30:58than
- 30:58I
- 30:59want
- 30:59to
- 30:59write
- 30:59more
- 30:59children's
- 31:00books.
- 31:00What
- 31:01I
- 31:01want
- 31:01most
- 31:01is
- 31:02I
- 31:02would
- 31:02love
- 31:02to
- 31:02be
- 31:02a
- 31:03playwright
- 31:04and
- 31:04not
- 31:05necessarily
- 31:05a
- 31:05children's
- 31:06playwright,
- 31:06but
- 31:07all
- 31:07of
- 31:07it
- 31:07comes
- 31:08together
- 31:08in
- 31:08all
- 31:08the
- 31:08aspects
- 31:09of
- 31:09me
- 31:10to
- 31:10make
- 31:11that
- 31:11better.
- 31:11So
- 31:11I
- 31:12think
- 31:12eventually
- 31:13I'll
- 31:14go
- 31:14write
- 31:14plays.
- 31:14But
- 31:15right
- 31:15now,
- 31:15children's
- 31:15book
- 31:16feels
- 31:17home
- 31:18for
- 31:18me
- 31:18with
- 31:19my
- 31:19career
- 31:19and
- 31:20my
- 31:20age
- 31:20and
- 31:20my
- 31:20experience.
- 31:22How
- 31:23much
- 31:23time?
- 31:24Teachers
- 31:24have
- 31:24a
- 31:24very
- 31:25busy.
- 31:25Because
- 31:26people
- 31:26think
- 31:26teachers
- 31:27just
- 31:28whatever
- 31:28hours
- 31:28they
- 31:29spend
- 31:29in
- 31:29school.
- 31:30But
- 31:30teachers
- 31:31put
- 31:31in
- 31:31a
- 31:31lot
- 31:31more
- 31:32hours
- 31:32than
- 31:32that.
- 31:33So
- 31:34where
- 31:34are
- 31:34you
- 31:35finding
- 31:35time
- 31:35to
- 31:36write?
- 31:36What's
- 31:36your
- 31:37writing
- 31:37process
- 31:37look
- 31:38like?
- 31:40I
- 31:40have
- 31:40a
- 31:40very
- 31:41strict
- 31:41rule
- 31:41of
- 31:41not
- 31:42taking
- 31:42work
- 31:42home
- 31:42with
- 31:43me,
- 31:43so
- 31:44I
- 31:44do
- 31:44not
- 31:44bring
- 31:44any
- 31:45teaching
- 31:45home
- 31:45with
- 31:45me.
- 31:46Although
- 31:47I
- 31:47say
- 31:47that
- 31:48I
- 31:48do
- 31:48enjoy
- 31:49grading
- 31:50paper.
- 31:51So
- 31:51I
- 31:51don't
- 31:51plan
- 31:52from
- 31:52home.
- 31:52I
- 31:53will.
- 31:53I
- 31:53do
- 31:53occasionally
- 31:54grade
- 31:54paper
- 31:54from
- 31:54home
- 31:54because
- 31:55I
- 31:55enjoy
- 31:55that
- 31:56and
- 31:56it's
- 31:56gratifying.
- 31:57But
- 31:58I
- 31:58find
- 31:58on
- 31:58the
- 31:59weekends
- 31:59I
- 31:59have,
- 32:00when
- 32:00I'm
- 32:00not
- 32:00spending
- 32:01time
- 32:01with
- 32:01friends
- 32:01or
- 32:02family,
- 32:02I
- 32:02will
- 32:03lock
- 32:03in
- 32:03for
- 32:04a
- 32:04few
- 32:04hours
- 32:04and
- 32:05write
- 32:06or
- 32:06edit.
- 32:07Good
- 32:07for
- 32:07you.
- 32:08And
- 32:08I'm
- 32:09always
- 32:09curious
- 32:11is
- 32:11we
- 32:12get
- 32:12a
- 32:12lot
- 32:12of
- 32:12aspiring
- 32:13children's
- 32:14book
- 32:14authors
- 32:14listening
- 32:15to
- 32:15the
- 32:15show.
- 32:15What
- 32:16advice
- 32:16would
- 32:16you
- 32:17give
- 32:18an
- 32:18aspiring
- 32:19children's
- 32:19book
- 32:20author
- 32:20to
- 32:21get
- 32:21started?
- 32:22To
- 32:23just
- 32:23sit
- 32:23down
- 32:24and
- 32:24do
- 32:24it.
- 32:25I
- 32:25think
- 32:26people
- 32:26get
- 32:26so
- 32:27bogged
- 32:27down
- 32:27with,
- 32:27okay,
- 32:28what's
- 32:28the
- 32:28first
- 32:28line
- 32:28gonna
- 32:29be
- 32:29like?
- 32:30The
- 32:30whole
- 32:30thing
- 32:30and
- 32:30let
- 32:31it
- 32:31be
- 32:31bad.
- 32:32Then
- 32:32go
- 32:32back
- 32:32and
- 32:32worry
- 32:33about
- 32:33that
- 32:33first
- 32:33line.
- 32:35Excellent
- 32:36advice.
- 32:38Student.
- 32:38Student.
- 32:39Can't
- 32:39students
- 32:40struggle
- 32:40to
- 32:40get
- 32:40started
- 32:41more
- 32:41than
- 32:41they
- 32:42do
- 32:42to
- 32:42do
- 32:42the
- 32:42whole
- 32:42thing?
- 32:43So
- 32:43you
- 32:43just
- 32:43have
- 32:43to.
- 32:44You
- 32:44just
- 32:44have
- 32:44to
- 32:44sit
- 32:44down
- 32:44and
- 32:45do
- 32:45it.
- 32:45Thank
- 32:45you.
- 32:47Encouragement
- 32:47for
- 32:48readers.
- 32:48So
- 32:52what
- 32:52would
- 32:53you
- 32:53say
- 32:53to
- 32:54children's
- 32:55book
- 32:55readers?
- 32:55Why
- 32:56should
- 32:56they
- 32:57purchase
- 32:57your
- 32:58book?
- 32:59Yeah.
- 33:00If
- 33:00they
- 33:00have
- 33:00a
- 33:01child
- 33:01in
- 33:01their
- 33:01life
- 33:02who
- 33:03lives
- 33:04anywhere,
- 33:04we
- 33:04all
- 33:04have
- 33:05a
- 33:05home,
- 33:05they
- 33:06should
- 33:06purchase
- 33:07this
- 33:07book
- 33:07to
- 33:08teach
- 33:08them
- 33:09the
- 33:09value
- 33:09of
- 33:09where
- 33:09they
- 33:10come
- 33:10from
- 33:10or
- 33:11an
- 33:11adult.
- 33:11I
- 33:11think
- 33:12anyone
- 33:12can
- 33:12read
- 33:12children's
- 33:13books.
- 33:13And
- 33:14an
- 33:14adult
- 33:14who
- 33:14wants
- 33:15to
- 33:16find
- 33:16ways
- 33:17to
- 33:17love
- 33:18where
- 33:18they
- 33:18come
- 33:18from,
- 33:19I
- 33:19think
- 33:19this
- 33:20is
- 33:20a
- 33:20great
- 33:20book
- 33:20for
- 33:20them.
- 33:21Terrific.
- 33:22When
- 33:22I
- 33:22sign
- 33:23books,
- 33:23I
- 33:23write
- 33:24a
- 33:24message,
- 33:24and
- 33:24then
- 33:24I
- 33:24always
- 33:25end
- 33:25it
- 33:25with
- 33:26Learn
- 33:26to
- 33:26love
- 33:26where
- 33:26you're
- 33:27from.
- 33:28Cody
- 33:28Burke.
- 33:29Nice.
- 33:31When
- 33:31you're.
- 33:32I'm
- 33:32just
- 33:32trying
- 33:33to
- 33:33think
- 33:33back
- 33:33a
- 33:33little
- 33:34because
- 33:34you
- 33:34triggered
- 33:34something.
- 33:35When
- 33:35you
- 33:35do
- 33:36the
- 33:36book
- 33:38signings,
- 33:38do
- 33:39you
- 33:39actually
- 33:40read
- 33:40your
- 33:40book
- 33:42in
- 33:42the
- 33:42store?
- 33:43When
- 33:43Yorkshire
- 33:44Publishing
- 33:45lines
- 33:46up
- 33:46a
- 33:46visit
- 33:46to
- 33:46a
- 33:47bookstore?
- 33:47I
- 33:47actually
- 33:48read
- 33:48the
- 33:48book
- 33:48first.
- 33:50I
- 33:50have,
- 33:50and
- 33:51I
- 33:51enjoy
- 33:51doing
- 33:51that.
- 33:52Okay.
- 33:53And
- 33:53do
- 33:53you
- 33:54as
- 33:55a
- 33:55teacher.
- 33:56So
- 33:56do
- 33:56you
- 33:56review
- 33:57your
- 33:57book
- 33:58with
- 33:58the
- 33:59people
- 33:59who
- 34:00listen
- 34:00to
- 34:01you
- 34:01read
- 34:01the
- 34:01book?
- 34:02How
- 34:03do
- 34:03you
- 34:03engage?
- 34:03I
- 34:04would
- 34:04say
- 34:04this
- 34:04is
- 34:04a
- 34:04strong
- 34:04suit
- 34:05of
- 34:05mine.
- 34:05I'll
- 34:06stop.
- 34:06I
- 34:06do
- 34:06voices,
- 34:07I
- 34:07ask
- 34:07questions.
- 34:09I
- 34:09let
- 34:09kids
- 34:10read
- 34:10an
- 34:10extra
- 34:11word
- 34:11or
- 34:11I
- 34:11ask
- 34:11what
- 34:12this
- 34:12is.
- 34:13That's
- 34:13what
- 34:13my,
- 34:14like,
- 34:14training
- 34:14is
- 34:14in.
- 34:14So
- 34:15it
- 34:15feels
- 34:15very
- 34:15natural
- 34:16to
- 34:16me
- 34:16to
- 34:16where
- 34:16I
- 34:16know
- 34:17from
- 34:17others,
- 34:17it
- 34:18might
- 34:18not,
- 34:18but
- 34:18it
- 34:18feels
- 34:20very
- 34:20easy
- 34:20for
- 34:20me.
- 34:21Okay,
- 34:22so
- 34:22you've
- 34:22got
- 34:23audience
- 34:23engagement
- 34:24going
- 34:24on
- 34:25as
- 34:25you're
- 34:25reading
- 34:26the
- 34:26book.
- 34:27Yeah.
- 34:28Thank
- 34:29you
- 34:29for
- 34:29sharing
- 34:29that.
- 34:29Because
- 34:30it's
- 34:30a.
- 34:30I've
- 34:31never
- 34:31really
- 34:31talked
- 34:32until
- 34:32I've
- 34:33talked
- 34:33to
- 34:33you.
- 34:34I
- 34:34never
- 34:34really
- 34:34thought
- 34:35about.
- 34:35Okay.
- 34:36About
- 34:36engaging
- 34:37the
- 34:38audience
- 34:38while
- 34:39you're
- 34:39reading
- 34:40rather
- 34:40than
- 34:41just
- 34:41engaging
- 34:42them
- 34:42after
- 34:42you've
- 34:43read.
- 34:43It
- 34:44sounds,
- 34:44again,
- 34:45a
- 34:45very
- 34:45unique
- 34:46way
- 34:47of
- 34:47engaging
- 34:48the
- 34:48audience.
- 34:50Final
- 34:50thoughts?
- 34:51Is
- 34:52there
- 34:52something
- 34:52you
- 34:53thought,
- 34:53oh,
- 34:53I
- 34:54wish
- 34:54Rick
- 34:54would
- 34:54have
- 34:54asked
- 34:55me
- 34:55that
- 34:55question.
- 34:56Is
- 34:56there
- 34:56something
- 34:57that
- 34:57you
- 34:58can
- 34:58think
- 34:58of
- 34:58that
- 35:00you
- 35:00know
- 35:00the
- 35:00audience
- 35:01would
- 35:01get
- 35:01value
- 35:02out
- 35:02of?
- 35:02One
- 35:03thing
- 35:03I
- 35:03can
- 35:03think
- 35:03of
- 35:04is
- 35:05working
- 35:05with
- 35:05an
- 35:05illustrator.
- 35:07I
- 35:07think
- 35:07just
- 35:07as
- 35:07much
- 35:08as
- 35:08an
- 35:08author
- 35:09wants
- 35:09to
- 35:09see
- 35:10their
- 35:11vision
- 35:12come
- 35:12to
- 35:12real
- 35:13life,
- 35:13I
- 35:13think
- 35:13an
- 35:14illustrator
- 35:14also
- 35:15wants
- 35:15the
- 35:16author's
- 35:16vision
- 35:16to
- 35:16come
- 35:16in
- 35:17real
- 35:17life.
- 35:17Because
- 35:17I
- 35:17have
- 35:18author
- 35:18friends
- 35:18who
- 35:19have
- 35:19struggled
- 35:20to
- 35:20give
- 35:20feedback
- 35:21to
- 35:21an
- 35:21illustrator
- 35:22or
- 35:22not
- 35:23love
- 35:23the
- 35:24end
- 35:24product,
- 35:24but
- 35:25an
- 35:25illustrator
- 35:25wants
- 35:26it
- 35:26to
- 35:26be
- 35:26what
- 35:27you
- 35:27want
- 35:27it
- 35:27to
- 35:27be.
- 35:28Camila
- 35:28was
- 35:28so
- 35:29great
- 35:29at
- 35:30me
- 35:30giving
- 35:30even
- 35:31little
- 35:31feedback,
- 35:31like,
- 35:32what
- 35:32if
- 35:32we
- 35:32change
- 35:32the
- 35:32color
- 35:33here?
- 35:33Or
- 35:33what
- 35:34if
- 35:34you
- 35:34change
- 35:34that
- 35:34poster
- 35:35to
- 35:35this?
- 35:35Because
- 35:36here's
- 35:36how
- 35:36that
- 35:37connects
- 35:37to
- 35:37my
- 35:37childhood.
- 35:38And
- 35:38she
- 35:38was
- 35:39happy
- 35:40to
- 35:40do
- 35:40it
- 35:40every
- 35:40time
- 35:41and
- 35:41enthusiastically
- 35:42changed
- 35:43it.
- 35:43And
- 35:44I
- 35:44think
- 35:44that
- 35:44level
- 35:45of
- 35:45collaboration
- 35:46meant
- 35:46everything.
- 35:47I
- 35:47never
- 35:47thought
- 35:48of
- 35:48that
- 35:48until
- 35:48you
- 35:48said
- 35:49it.
- 35:49And
- 35:49it's
- 35:50great
- 35:50because,
- 35:50like
- 35:51I
- 35:51said
- 35:51to
- 35:51you,
- 35:51I've
- 35:52talked
- 35:52to
- 35:52so
- 35:52many
- 35:53children's
- 35:53book
- 35:53authors
- 35:54that
- 35:55love
- 35:55their
- 35:55illustrator,
- 35:57but
- 35:57I
- 35:57haven't
- 35:57delved
- 35:58into
- 35:59how
- 36:00deep.
- 36:00Like,
- 36:01in
- 36:01terms
- 36:01of
- 36:03giving
- 36:03feedback
- 36:04in
- 36:04a
- 36:04positive,
- 36:05constructive
- 36:06way
- 36:06to.
- 36:07Like
- 36:08you
- 36:08said,
- 36:08the
- 36:08illustrator
- 36:09wants
- 36:09to
- 36:10take
- 36:10what
- 36:10you're
- 36:11envisioning
- 36:12and
- 36:12bring
- 36:12it
- 36:12to
- 36:12life.
- 36:14Absolutely.
- 36:15Thank
- 36:15you
- 36:15for
- 36:16sharing
- 36:16that,
- 36:18Cody.
- 36:18Thanks
- 36:19so
- 36:19much
- 36:19for
- 36:19being
- 36:20a
- 36:20guest
- 36:20on
- 36:20the
- 36:20Adventures
- 36:21in
- 36:21the
- 36:21Heart
- 36:21of
- 36:21Children's
- 36:22book
- 36:22authors.
- 36:23I
- 36:23really
- 36:24appreciate
- 36:24the
- 36:25generosity,
- 36:25your
- 36:26time,
- 36:26your
- 36:26insights.
- 36:27Wow,
- 36:27we
- 36:28got
- 36:28a
- 36:28lot
- 36:28of
- 36:29nuggets.
- 36:29I'm
- 36:30always
- 36:30looking
- 36:30for
- 36:31something
- 36:31that
- 36:32someone
- 36:32hasn't
- 36:33heard
- 36:33before
- 36:33and
- 36:34you
- 36:34certainly
- 36:34have
- 36:34given
- 36:35us
- 36:35a
- 36:35couple
- 36:36of
- 36:36really
- 36:36great
- 36:37things
- 36:37to
- 36:37think
- 36:38about
- 36:38including
- 36:39I'm
- 36:39so
- 36:39glad.
- 36:40Yeah
- 36:40so
- 36:40am
- 36:41I
- 36:41in
- 36:41terms
- 36:42of
- 36:42the
- 36:42reading
- 36:43and
- 36:43engaging
- 36:44your
- 36:44audience
- 36:44and
- 36:45also
- 36:45with
- 36:45the
- 36:45illustrator.
- 36:46So
- 36:46I
- 36:46hope
- 36:47people
- 36:47find
- 36:48real
- 36:48value
- 36:48in
- 36:49that.
- 36:49And
- 36:50we
- 36:50promise
- 36:51to
- 36:51make
- 36:51sure
- 36:51that
- 36:52we
- 36:52give
- 36:52links
- 36:53to
- 36:53Cody's
- 36:54social
- 36:54media
- 36:54and
- 36:55website.
- 36:56And
- 36:56if
- 36:56you've
- 36:56enjoyed
- 36:57this
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- 36:58please
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- 37:07inspired
- 37:08who
- 37:09enjoys
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- 37:11and
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- 37:12Take
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- 37:13Back
- 37:13to
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- 37:14and
- 37:15the
- 37:15whole
- 37:15idea
- 37:16of
- 37:17putting
- 37:17yourself
- 37:17in
- 37:18that
- 37:18same
- 37:19situation
- 37:20and
- 37:20say
- 37:20take
- 37:21me
- 37:21back
- 37:21to
- 37:22your
- 37:22favorite
- 37:23place.
- 37:23Thanks
- 37:24a
- 37:24lot
- 37:24Cody.
- 37:24I
- 37:24really
- 37:25appreciate
- 37:25that.
- 37:27Well
- 37:27thank
- 37:27you
- 37:27so
- 37:27much.
- 37:28You're
- 37:28welcome.