Latest / Corie Sheppard Podcast / Episode 151 | Swam Dam
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- 0:20Speaker 2: You know, they go tell me in all their seriousness and all the stuff all the bound to do them people that all the bound to be them white people.
- 0:26Speaker 2: So that's alright, that's alright.
- 0:28Speaker 2: I see only taking it from naked joke at them, kind of thing.
- 0:31Speaker 2: I mean, how we reached, how we reached a fight between some people, how to move a boat and they want to move the boat into reparations for slavery.
- 0:41Speaker 2: How we read so far, how it is read so far, I don't know how that could end up being a settlement for slavery argument that can be used.
- 0:49Speaker 2: But I'll tell you one thing, right, I want to before I get into the mix.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Right, I'll tell you one thing.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Right, it's a one mistake they make One mistake they make.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Right, it was glaring.
- 0:57Speaker 2: You really shouldn't have done that you.
- 1:01Speaker 2: They have a better solution to these kind of problems.
- 1:06Speaker 2: We'll take a lesson from the elders, right?
- 1:31Speaker 4: This is a story, ladies and gentlemen, about two lovely white women traveling all the way to Africa and Alabama found themselves deep in the heart of the Baloova in Montgomery In the hands of my big brother, uber had it been me, I would have taken them back to their husband.
- 1:57Speaker 3: But brother was hungry, hungry, hungry.
- 1:58Speaker 3: Two white women traveling to Africa find themselves in the hands of a carnival head hunter.
- 2:12Speaker 3: He cooked up one and he ate one raw.
- 2:17Speaker 3: They played so good, he wanted more.
- 2:26Speaker 3: I wanted more.
- 2:31Speaker 3: I wanted more, I wanted more, I wanted more, I wanted more.
- 2:47Speaker 2: I wanted more.
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- 12:08Speaker 2: There was a law in the scene to calm down so them looking to arrest the white people, who was the aggressors and anything, and there was basically no one to allow everybody else.
- 12:16Speaker 2: There was no one to just listen to them, call it a day okay, or protect him already or save all the partner.
- 12:22Speaker 2: Let me just get this together.
- 12:23Speaker 2: But my boy who came in with a chair and started to deal people, some chair like if he's wrestling I don't know what got into him because everything was done, settled down, we had the upper hand.
- 12:35Speaker 2: This is he hit that woman so hard for why he do that?
- 12:41Speaker 2: Why he hit the woman.
- 12:42Speaker 2: That was nice.
- 12:42Speaker 2: The woman dancer.
- 12:44Speaker 2: She done went through enough already.
- 12:45Speaker 2: One done, get dumped in the water.
- 12:46Speaker 2: All you notice, one of the fellas on them went floor more than water.
- 12:49Speaker 2: He leave his partner and dive off the jetty and gone back in the water.
- 12:53Speaker 2: That's what I want to do.
- 12:54Speaker 2: But the woman done, she, she done get a portion.
- 12:56Speaker 2: And it had man and woman who come off the boat and boiless and them, woman and them, it's like for everything they would have received.
- 13:03Speaker 2: You know, that's what people saying about everything your ancestors get.
- 13:06Speaker 2: This was the moment and I find we being unfair to our ancestors.
- 13:09Speaker 2: You know, to be honest with you, because people trying to talk and talk about this is what we should do 400 years ago.
- 13:15Speaker 2: I want to tell you that this is exactly what we did 400 years ago.
- 13:18Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
- 13:20Speaker 2: You think the beginning of the slave trade was docile and peaceful and that was a bloody thing which we will never forget.
- 13:28Speaker 2: But we live in an age where we could all try and live in peace.
- 13:33Speaker 2: If the man come and tell him move your boat, why it matter if the man black, white or indifferent, if you had a movie about for the boat to pass, like, no, no, no, just move your boat and let it take pass.
- 13:41Speaker 2: Now, man, let the man park.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Let me keep this thing simple why we had a, why we had a fight the security guard on moving the boat and why we didn't see a boat full of hip hoppers.
- 13:51Speaker 2: You know, I mean them hip hoppers, them feel really flop fellas on them.
- 13:53Speaker 2: Come into park and just let the people think, well, they could have moved all the boat and avoid all this situation.
- 13:57Speaker 2: And if, flip side of this, you know I mean all these noise are a pizza, right, you should notice by now.
- 14:06Speaker 2: We as a race, right, we see this situation, everybody running, which I would probably do too, more like the first fella to probably party fight.
- 14:13Speaker 2: But if it come down to the come down and I had a swing, I would have a swing because we had to defend myself.
- 14:17Speaker 2: Right, you get the upper hand on them.
- 14:20Speaker 2: You're soft mop, everybody.
- 14:21Speaker 2: You're soft mop, daddy and them.
- 14:22Speaker 2: You're soft mop, the two youths and them who start the fight, only soft mop the woman and them, and all.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Alright, that's it, the bell ring, the fight done.
- 14:31Speaker 2: You know, I mean sometimes they had to let the bell ring and the fight done and you crown the champion and they move on.
- 14:37Speaker 2: I still don't understand this.
- 14:39Speaker 2: Will we live in anywhere?
- 14:41Speaker 2: This cancel culture thing that we support?
- 14:43Speaker 2: All they know me.
- 14:43Speaker 2: I don't like it.
- 14:44Speaker 2: I don't like it.
- 14:44Speaker 2: So why are they going close down the people minimad?
- 14:47Speaker 2: So they must make a living, no more.
- 14:50Speaker 2: They make a bad choice.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Right, let me say, alright, they was call them the worst or what they want to call them.
- 14:55Speaker 2: They make a bad choice.
- 14:57Speaker 2: They was race driven.
- 14:58Speaker 2: They say a black security.
- 14:59Speaker 2: They like them.
- 14:59Speaker 2: They make a terrible call and a wicked advantage just move to start the man for nothing.
- 15:05Speaker 2: You know, I mean you physically start the man.
- 15:07Speaker 2: Thank god there's that cameras there too, because you know that story could have go.
- 15:10Speaker 2: It is this, is this you are still talking about, right, but after all that and all they done, soft mop the man.
- 15:16Speaker 2: I see a video come out with the put one of the fellas who's allegedly party bro, and that man face properly wax up.
- 15:24Speaker 2: You know that man face properly wax up, thinking he knows to prevent the bleeding and thing I mean.
- 15:29Speaker 2: So that is not enough.
- 15:31Speaker 2: The men make a wrong move.
- 15:32Speaker 2: We put them in the place and soften them up.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Now we had to find everyone of them, find everybody working for, and no, we can't do that.
- 15:39Speaker 2: We can't do that, we can't do that, we.
- 15:40Speaker 2: I think we had to be beyond the idea of revenge and vengeance on thing a dealer situation, a deal with it then, and there, as far as I can say, the deal with it.
- 15:48Speaker 2: Very well too, them men, I must be open, big when they notice, oh god, all of them coming.
- 15:57Speaker 2: If it's any flashback from the 400 years of separation went through.
- 16:01Speaker 2: It had to be that moment when revolt would have been hate, your revolt would have been Ghana.
- 16:06Speaker 2: When it's time to put man on bodice, oh god is a lot of them.
- 16:12Speaker 2: Well, listen, that is not my world.
- 16:13Speaker 2: And if only, if you allow me to talk about this and I have clients who have clients of Caucasian persuasion and I had voice I was only mad at not me only gonna set me up and make me collect my own coins.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Not me, not I.
- 16:25Speaker 2: I am always here to talk about Calypso and Trinidad and Tobago and the issues that we face in as a nation.
- 16:32Speaker 2: Left them Yankees problem to them right.
- 16:35Speaker 2: But in the spirit of the biggest story of the week, I've lined up a few selections for you, for your listening pleasure, that have to do with beating, because if it's like sand is beaten, all you want to talk about.
- 16:48Speaker 2: Then let me talk about Calypso.
- 16:49Speaker 2: I had to do it beaten right.
- 16:51Speaker 2: And the first song I want to play for you, I want to remind you.
- 16:56Speaker 2: Well, first, I'm not gonna tell you who sing it, because the voice is one that you should know and you should just listen for the voice, good, I'm pretty sure that mostly people listening to this never hear this before, but listen to the voice, good, and you can figure out who it is.
- 17:09Speaker 2: I want to say upfront that this song is not politically correct.
- 17:13Speaker 2: It is not.
- 17:16Speaker 2: It is not of this age, this was a long time ago.
- 17:19Speaker 2: Matter of fact, when you hear the voice, you realize that is one of his earliest songs in his career, right, but it's directly related to this thing when he man hit the woman in the chair.
- 17:28Speaker 2: Man, I ain't like that part.
- 17:29Speaker 2: That man hit a woman hard and while he went on to run up the chairs on the Amazon.
- 17:34Speaker 2: Why we like this?
- 17:35Speaker 2: Why we like this?
- 17:35Speaker 2: We can't just let things live and let things slide, come on, but that man, that woman real hard.
- 17:41Speaker 2: So I had to go and find a song that was along the lines of a man overdoing it where woman is concerned and this is not of this era, though, judge it by today's standard but I were taking the song from her right, taking the sweetness of the song and hear who the song is about and tell me for they could tell me who's singing this song this is my man on the man to retaliate.
- 20:20Speaker 7: They say this girl was really tough.
- 20:22Speaker 7: She make out the real hard stuff Because she stand up there and table 25, pop Shorty, get mad and he pelts her, kick the girl, pop and weep under it and she hold on to it, squeeze it and stand squeezing it.
- 20:37Speaker 7: Oh boy, she's squeezing.
- 20:39Speaker 7: Oh, she's squeezing.
- 20:42Speaker 7: Shorty start a shout.
- 20:44Speaker 7: She say Shut your damn mouth.
- 20:46Speaker 7: She squeeze it and she squeeze it.
- 20:48Speaker 7: Oh, she's squeezing.
- 20:49Speaker 7: Oh boy, she's squeezing.
- 21:10Speaker 2: You want to take our guest as the mood singer Shorty sing about the great Gaffee Blackman, and if the record says it right, gaffee Blackman might write that song too.
- 21:21Speaker 2: I'll tell you.
- 21:23Speaker 2: Maybe you know the voice man, one of the greatest to sing Kaiso and Soka One of the greatest.
- 21:27Speaker 2: So wait to start this week, but wait to start first.
- 21:29Speaker 2: Congratulations to everybody who was involved and is involved in the carry-com.
- 21:37Speaker 2: I was looking at the opening of the carry-com games and it's a.
- 21:39Speaker 2: Am I saying it right?
- 21:40Speaker 2: It's not carry-com games, commonwealth games, commonwealth youth games in Trinidad and Tobago.
- 21:45Speaker 2: The opening ceremony was amazing.
- 21:49Speaker 2: We get to see Tantan.
- 21:50Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask them to see Tantan and Saga Boy, to bring them out, and I just had to go back to this, as I always see right when we talking about museum of Trinidad and Tobago or here talks about building a cannibal museum and thing you know, find Tantan and Saga Boy should be in places that we could see at all times.
- 22:06Speaker 2: Those things should be available for every generation who pass through Trinidad and Tobago, or everybody who call themselves Trinidadian and Tobagonian To be able to go to those spaces and see these costumes with pride.
- 22:19Speaker 2: We should never miss out on this.
- 22:22Speaker 2: If I remember right, the last time I would have seen Tantan and Saga Boy Was in the stadium too, for one of my shell shows, the one that Peter Minchell had arranged, and that might be 2010, when you think about how long ago that was.
- 22:36Speaker 2: And you know these costumes, they're so elaborate, these things are not disposable.
- 22:40Speaker 2: We making our cannibal into disposable thing where everything come a year.
- 22:43Speaker 2: How much people fly back after cannibal?
- 22:46Speaker 2: Do they still have?
- 22:47Speaker 2: A lot of people who got caught back their headpiece and make that a part of the decor in their home.
- 22:52Speaker 2: So look at the Thompson's.
- 22:53Speaker 2: I went by them at the time and I see them have the heart.
- 22:55Speaker 2: They decor from their cannibal over the years as part of the Sorry, the headpieces and pieces of the costumes as part of the home decor.
- 23:01Speaker 2: But is that still a thing?
- 23:03Speaker 2: Or is it completely disposable?
- 23:05Speaker 2: Where they do?
- 23:05Speaker 2: Like me and Troy, by the time I leave the stage, I throw everything that the only thing I go with is what I came with, not the costumes going with me, but certainly the individual pieces, the iconic ones like Tantan and Saga Boy, one from Rat Race.
- 23:20Speaker 2: You all might remember a good bit of them, right?
- 23:23Speaker 2: There's one in particular that I see on a lot of tourism, a lot of tourism magazines and so on, like Caribbean Beat that was played by Peter Samuel.
- 23:35Speaker 2: I believe those things are iconic and will stand out in the memory for a lot of us who would have been here to see it.
- 23:41Speaker 2: But we had to do this thing for generations that are not here yet.
- 23:44Speaker 2: We had to start a plan.
- 23:45Speaker 2: You know they say live for your last name, not for your first name.
- 23:47Speaker 2: We had a plan for those who come in after us and show more of this, because in the opening of the Commonware Games, when these things came out, they made a big splash across social media and we must always remember that they have people.
- 24:00Speaker 2: While we might remember Tantan and Saga Boys, when you look at the crowd in the stadium for the opening, from all over the world people come to support their athletes or the youths in their family who in this and they would have been able to see the best of what we have to display In the midst of what we call any worst times in Trinidad and Tobago, people come here and see the best of what we have.
- 24:22Speaker 2: I think it's an important thing that we must never forget.
- 24:26Speaker 2: Let's go to the news day now.
- 24:27Speaker 2: This is from news day.
- 24:29Speaker 2: Don't ever say who's reporting it.
- 24:30Speaker 2: It just says news day reports News day.
- 24:33Speaker 2: Always short paperblows or something, or they don't want them to know who, or they publish Commonware Youth Games 2020-23, they say.
- 24:40Speaker 2: After years of preparation, the Commonware Youth Games 2023 kicked off with a colorful opening ceremony On Friday, with carnival costumes and soccer music filling the air, as well as 1000 athletes from 70 countries were cheered on by spectators at the Haysley-Grofford Stadium.
- 24:53Speaker 2: Some of the highlights of the day presented by Angelo Marcel.
- 24:58Speaker 2: I will link this in the episode description Because, for anybody who abroad, it would be nice for you to log into this or just check the article.
- 25:07Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
- 25:08Speaker 2: If you just google Commonware Youth Games, you will see some photo highlights presented by the news day here that would go in through the teams Representing themselves, well as visiting teams and team Trinidad and Tobago.
- 25:22Speaker 2: Let out by what's my friend's name?
- 25:27Speaker 2: Again, boy, who's um?
- 25:30Speaker 2: Listen, izaman supposed to record a leaning board.
- 25:32Speaker 2: I is not to record a night.
- 25:34Speaker 2: Free Town Collective Let out by Free Town Collective, who have a special song for the occasion.
- 25:42Speaker 2: It's worth taking a look at and it's worth seeing how the teams represented themselves.
- 25:48Speaker 2: It always reminds me in these, in these global games open, such an important part of the presentation of your culture.
- 25:59Speaker 2: And you know what?
- 26:00Speaker 2: One of the things that is undeniable Is when you, no matter which the games might be, it might be World Cup, world Cup.
- 26:06Speaker 2: Don't do this walkout thing right.
- 26:07Speaker 2: So mostly it's Olympic Open.
- 26:09Speaker 2: When you see the Olympic Open and each team is represented and they track the way they do it, do they?
- 26:13Speaker 2: do that for World Cup, as if now that I'm thinking back about the World Cup Open, the teams just walk by.
- 26:18Speaker 2: For World Cup they say World Cup, olympics, but certainly for the Olympic Open.
- 26:21Speaker 2: You tend to be able to identify some of the teams by the color, by the chance, by the dance, and usually it's the African countries, as well as the Caribbean countries, that usually stand out in a big way In those Open ceremonies, not to the culture of other countries, but the way they present themselves, the costumes they might wear.
- 26:41Speaker 2: It's such an important part Because you know what they're doing.
- 26:44Speaker 2: Right.
- 26:44Speaker 2: When we go into Olympics, we ain't going into much of a race, right?
- 26:49Speaker 2: Let me start to make my own rules here and play games that we can win.
- 26:55Speaker 2: Right.
- 26:55Speaker 2: We don't win too much of a race again.
- 26:57Speaker 2: We don't win too much of a match.
- 26:59Speaker 2: In the Olympics we are looking so great you know what I mean In space of international sports, original sports, so better.
- 27:07Speaker 2: We stick to the.
- 27:08Speaker 2: We should just be the best at the Open ceremony Until they start to give out medal.
- 27:13Speaker 2: For that we go up in medal count.
- 27:16Speaker 2: If we send this kind of delegation we had here, no matter, we are runner-matter.
- 27:19Speaker 2: We don't even want to send the athletes again.
- 27:22Speaker 2: Just send artists and send pan calypso and soca and send costume makers and wire bender.
- 27:29Speaker 2: That might be the better bet for For sportsy where we're going in this country, but it's something that we could use For all benefit to market the country and show what we have, show what kind of values.
- 27:40Speaker 2: Every single time our international team Goes out on them tracks, we should use it as an opportunity to market kind of value.
- 27:46Speaker 2: So when we have the ministry of sports Of our budget center team somewhere, the minister of culture Supposed to say put on some under budget Because we want to make sure we have the best kind of value on display in those countries.
- 27:59Speaker 2: And okay, if it's the beads and tongs mask, the trend that we wear in tongs and only broken.
- 28:04Speaker 2: But if it's the beads and tongs mask or the mincelle type, it don't matter what it is.
- 28:09Speaker 2: Let me just decide, and I keep saying this every time we need a theme for each carnival that we start after the carnival finish here.
- 28:16Speaker 2: So from the time Ash wins, they come.
- 28:18Speaker 2: All you want to spend your lents For religious purposes, and so on.
- 28:21Speaker 2: From time Easter Monday come, we supposed to say here we're going on Launch of Carnival 2024 season is here.
- 28:28Speaker 2: We launching everybody else Carnival through the world.
- 28:32Speaker 2: You see, I was watching.
- 28:33Speaker 2: I think it was Carrie Banner.
- 28:36Speaker 2: This week Carrie Banner looked like you know what I mean it's hatting.
- 28:39Speaker 2: And Tiga Carnival Looking like it's hatting.
- 28:41Speaker 2: So little more mums.
- 28:42Speaker 2: You know, when they take our fat and Tiga Carnival, them looking like they're hatting.
- 28:45Speaker 2: But if after our carnival, we declare the start of the carnival calendar For the next year, so after 2023 Carnival, we come out and say the start of the thing is this year, the theme for carnival for the whole world is X and we basically put pressure on the other countries To conform to that.
- 29:04Speaker 2: Being market leaders, they had to be market leaders, right?
- 29:07Speaker 2: If you Encharge the thing, set the tone for the thing.
- 29:09Speaker 2: So this is what carnival have to give this year and that will last from that moment that we launch it All the way through to Carnival Tuesday and turn that carnival, which is the end of the carnival season, the global carnival season, are talking there.
- 29:24Speaker 2: So that way, we started to get the entire industry following us.
- 29:29Speaker 2: And now is the time to do that.
- 29:30Speaker 2: You know, because as the other carnival stroll the region, get more and more competitive.
- 29:35Speaker 2: They're going to find ways and they're already finding ways To compete with us that we're not going to be able to compete.
- 29:40Speaker 2: We have done a certain size already.
- 29:42Speaker 2: We have a format for carnival that not changing drastically.
- 29:45Speaker 2: We have a music industry.
- 29:49Speaker 2: That is what it is.
- 29:51Speaker 2: We have to take ownership of this whole thing, no matter what direction people go in.
- 29:55Speaker 2: We must dictate it and maybe even consider as much as we do Like.
- 30:01Speaker 2: I have some listeners here who rail against the idea Of allowing foreigners to compete in our carnival right.
- 30:07Speaker 2: But I'll say let us set the competition for everywhere in the world.
- 30:11Speaker 2: So we judge banner the year for caribana, we judge banner the year for why is there nothing here?
- 30:17Speaker 2: For Hollywood, for Miami, every single carnival around the world.
- 30:22Speaker 2: We set the tone, we send the judges, we decide what is your road march, what is your?
- 30:31Speaker 2: Let us become the standard bearer.
- 30:33Speaker 2: This is not an uncommon thing.
- 30:35Speaker 2: So if you look at big industries or you look at the very big companies Plenty of big working big companies and stuff In only big companies Only not ISO certified when you look at ISO certification, it's just basically a standard bearer In the global space For several different production and operation efficiencies.
- 31:01Speaker 2: Let me put it like that.
- 31:02Speaker 2: So what ISO basically saying is that I could certify you anywhere you are in the world, based on a series of standards that I set up, on a series of audits and tests that you must pass on a periodic basis and that will ensure that you compliance with international or global standards of production, of manufacturing, of office setup and safety.
- 31:22Speaker 2: Why we can't just take a minute right and set up an ISO, or do you want to call it ISO?
- 31:29Speaker 2: You can say ISO, me ISO.
- 31:32Speaker 2: You can call it that and say that is what it is for Carnival, and we set up a repository information that says this is what a Carnival is.
- 31:39Speaker 2: If you don't fit into these standards, well, you cannot call it Carnival, you can't call it this is not that, and we consider that that would entail A truck with a thing behind it and just do all the work.
- 31:52Speaker 2: But I don't know if you want to stop to do the work again.
- 31:54Speaker 2: I don't know if we trust we don't seem to trust the private sector and all that.
- 31:59Speaker 2: We feel that the best bet or the best people to do that is the government, which we know how that goes.
- 32:05Speaker 2: I'm planning to talk about them today, but I don't know that.
- 32:08Speaker 2: I don't know that.
- 32:11Speaker 2: Do's you trust the people who would have been in government before to implement any kind of plan like this?
- 32:17Speaker 2: If you see the planners valuable at all I don't know that I do so you would, of course, need investors and private sector and something.
- 32:24Speaker 2: Come up with this.
- 32:24Speaker 2: But, if we have that standard, I think we could go along with.
- 32:26Speaker 2: I think we could go along with.
- 32:29Speaker 2: So, hoping to see more of that.
- 32:30Speaker 2: But the congrats to everybody who was involved in the Commonwealth games.
- 32:33Speaker 2: You all did an excellent job and again I am here To play songs that have to do with it, with beating right, because all they over do the thing with this beating thing.
- 32:46Speaker 2: To be honest and I Join in the train with all you it would be remiss of me.
- 32:52Speaker 2: So attempt to have an episode to talk about badness and beating people Without playing a song off you from the baddest man in Calypso history.
- 33:03Speaker 2: I.
- 33:21Speaker 9: Move, lemme get me sure the beating green area and don't in the square.
- 33:24Speaker 9: I must give a last name.
- 33:26Speaker 9: A game is here, money licking green area and in woodford square.
- 33:29Speaker 9: Since they here, we have federation, all of them back up here in the island, immigration.
- 33:35Speaker 9: Have them on the test.
- 33:36Speaker 9: If you see how they holding this camp and then, friend, you're bound to all.
- 33:43Speaker 9: Some of them could read and spell, but they can't pronounce.
- 33:46Speaker 9: The policeman telling them say big, yes, you're paid man.
- 33:51Speaker 9: Man, as I say, has licks in his plastic.
- 34:15Speaker 9: Of course them Green areas.
- 34:16Speaker 9: You can hear what happened to one hundred.
- 34:18Speaker 9: I woke the man when the sick, the boss, telling him $5 a week.
- 34:23Speaker 9: He said, boss, I tell you flat, I'm not working for that.
- 34:27Speaker 9: All right, $20 a month, he said that's something better.
- 34:31Speaker 9: He woke right away.
- 34:32Speaker 9: If you see how they're holding this camp and them, friends, you're bound to burn.
- 34:36Speaker 9: Some of them could read and spell, but they can't pronounce at all.
- 34:41Speaker 9: The policeman telling them say, put your stupid man and, as they say, pat it leaks in the policeman Bloody hell fast get out of here hey man, them Grenadians making we hoot One just from here, and he started to shoot.
- 35:13Speaker 9: His name is Imaidis Haro.
- 35:15Speaker 9: The man doesn't call him so but I wait in on the children to ring as they finish with he.
- 35:21Speaker 9: If he win the case, I will have no fear of posting him back in a box.
- 35:25Speaker 9: Mark handle with care.
- 35:26Speaker 9: If you see how they're holding this camp and them friends, you're bound to burn.
- 35:31Speaker 9: Some of them could read and spell, but they can't pronounce at all.
- 35:35Speaker 9: The policeman telling them say box your stupid man and, as they say, pat it leaks in the policeman.
- 36:02Speaker 9: Twenty of them live next to me.
- 36:04Speaker 9: They just have a lot of play to do on easy.
- 36:06Speaker 9: When they wait in the morning, see how they're stretching like they're sleeping on slumber king, but inside the house they have a bed.
- 36:13Speaker 9: I wonder where this camp?
- 36:14Speaker 9: They just rest ahead.
- 36:15Speaker 9: So I'm not the Lord.
- 36:16Speaker 9: Play, kick a little peep.
- 36:17Speaker 9: They just hold on to a line and stand up to sleep.
- 36:20Speaker 9: If you see how they're holding this camp and them friends, you're bound to burn.
- 36:25Speaker 9: Some of them could read and spell, but they can't pronounce at all.
- 36:28Speaker 9: The policeman telling them say cross, your stupid man.
- 36:32Speaker 9: And, as they say, cross straight inside the man.
- 36:51Speaker 2: And, as they say, box his leaks in the policeman.
- 36:54Speaker 2: That's the voice of Carlton Joseph, the great Lord Blakey, they say the warlord of Calypso, one of the baddest men in Calypso.
- 37:03Speaker 2: I might have a next one here before we double this episode.
- 37:07Speaker 2: But talking about bad man and thing as we are, bad man thing I want to.
- 37:11Speaker 2: I want to address badness here immediately.
- 37:13Speaker 2: Fort right, the badness in the country gone mad over the weekend.
- 37:18Speaker 2: Everybody see this, this situation with this woman who was leaving her house in Philippine and then get gondong on the same street.
- 37:27Speaker 2: You know, the things just get even more glaring when you see the video of exactly how it happened.
- 37:32Speaker 2: The story came out at first, and then you see a young woman, basically reported as a young business woman, who get murdered on her way leaving home to do something.
- 37:45Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 37:46Speaker 2: The thing that makes it frightening, right, is that it's typical things that any one of us could be doing on any given day.
- 37:52Speaker 2: You get up on morning, you're going to the market, you're going to work, you're going wherever it might be, and then you had a deal with us.
- 37:58Speaker 2: You know, one thing that we could all admit is that that looked very direct.
- 38:02Speaker 2: In other words, they came for something specific.
- 38:05Speaker 2: They didn't come for talk, they didn't come to reason, they didn't come to rub because they arranged over the woman driving and that would be a nice little car to move with, but nobody was interested in her.
- 38:14Speaker 2: You see the video where she leave her home as she drive down the road All right, so you relax she.
- 38:21Speaker 2: They drive down the road and well, she drive down the road and then they block her, they chase her down, she put in a bad review, so a bad driver, and that was the end of that.
- 38:30Speaker 2: So recent pistol and condolences, family first and foremost, but those are the things that make it so glaring and even more frightening.
- 38:37Speaker 2: And it's almost like last week I was saying I wonder if it's any heat at the battle, and he comes, was on the thing and say here we're going on, we're them up, light them up, spark them up, empty the clip and go again.
- 38:51Speaker 2: You know what I mean Sometimes any heat or the ever given a presentation and they started to get wild and just started to talk loose, like I mean, that's happened to me all the time.
- 39:01Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm to you, but I was wondering if it was that she was on, but and I said last week, I was going on monitor to see if this is what it doubling down on.
- 39:10Speaker 2: This is, this is he stands, but this is clearly the stance of the party.
- 39:14Speaker 2: Right, this is the stance of the party, the stance of the UNC, as they contest the local government election.
- 39:20Speaker 2: As far as I am concerned, prep themselves for the upcoming general election, which is is is closer than we think in terms of our planning process, right, and the idea here is that the, the crime has gone too far and, with crime being run away and the state not doing a good enough job of getting that back under control and giving us a safe place to live, the position seems to be give us enough guns, give us access to guns so that we can protect ourselves and wet them up, and empty the clip and them kind of thing.
- 40:01Speaker 2: Right, as I constantly talk about here, I'm still on the fence.
- 40:04Speaker 2: I don't know where's my position on this.
- 40:06Speaker 2: I feel if it legally accessible to people, then people should go ahead and apply and get the weapons.
- 40:13Speaker 2: I also see more and more where the if you look at the process, or what should be a smooth process or what the process should be to get a firearm.
- 40:25Speaker 2: In terms of registering registering your weapon you had a register with one of the gun clubs and those types of things.
- 40:29Speaker 2: I always draw the parallels of the ways done in Jamaica.
- 40:33Speaker 2: It means that somebody with a legal firearm is an easily traceable person so that if there's any issue that comes up with their use or misuse of the firearm, then we could find them.
- 40:44Speaker 2: We saw a case of this recently by Busba, where a man guy maybe had enough of you and he got hot on his cell.
- 40:49Speaker 2: Tell man, hot skull talking.
- 40:51Speaker 2: You know what I mean Everybody like a hot skull talking.
- 40:53Speaker 2: But what he didn't care about the hot skull talk is that the great Mark Bexanto was right there and Mark Bexanto was recording the whole thing, so that went viral.
- 41:00Speaker 2: I assume that he may be penalized and no longer deemed to be a somebody who is fit to hold a firearm in our society, right Because of his actions at that time.
- 41:14Speaker 2: But in the midst of all that and with all the talk you hear and talk about this woman in Philippine have enough firearm.
- 41:23Speaker 2: She's claimed that she's a legal firearm owner.
- 41:25Speaker 2: I'm not sure if she would have returned fire or what it was done.
- 41:29Speaker 2: But I want us to just keep in mind that.
- 41:30Speaker 2: Well, let me talk to myself.
- 41:34Speaker 2: I don't want to live any wild, wild west where I had to protect myself.
- 41:36Speaker 2: I'm not going to put it like that, plain, point blank, right?
- 41:39Speaker 2: I don't want to live in a world where I had to take my protection into my own hand, especially not as my first line of defense, right?
- 41:46Speaker 2: I talked to my boy one day, the other day, and he said, boy, I will do what it takes, I will get dogs, I will build my fence.
- 41:52Speaker 2: If somebody comes to my house, I will blow my air horn.
- 41:54Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 41:55Speaker 2: You know some communities have air horns to blow so that we could scare away.
- 41:59Speaker 2: All those are things that I rather do to protect myself.
- 42:02Speaker 2: And get a alarm system and get camera or whatever it is.
- 42:05Speaker 2: I don't want it to have to come down to a showdown with me and that man.
- 42:10Speaker 2: And now it's a western kind of situation because, again, as a peacemaker, I watch people laugh at the Alabama fight and things and boy, listen, sometimes I just feel sorry for the aggressor, Even though the person is wrong.
- 42:24Speaker 2: I just say we're going to live in that.
- 42:25Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right enough.
- 42:27Speaker 2: One chair good, one chair good, not a whole congregation.
- 42:30Speaker 2: Water chair, teny man, that's me.
- 42:35Speaker 2: Blessing are the peacemakers.
- 42:37Speaker 2: So I don't know if I prepared, even if my life on the threat to live with the fact that I take somebody life.
- 42:46Speaker 2: Of course, great ways called a grievous bodily harm, great, whatever it is.
- 42:51Speaker 2: I don't know if I can live with myself.
- 42:52Speaker 2: I can sleep at night commenting, so that is not necessarily for me.
- 42:57Speaker 2: But again, the call of the opposition is to continue to issue firearms.
- 43:02Speaker 2: Let people get a protection for themselves and if home and the government is doing nothing about home and the government is doing nothing about it, they will get it.
- 43:11Speaker 2: They will get it.
- 43:12Speaker 2: They will get it.
- 43:12Speaker 2: So I think that's the way to go.
- 43:14Speaker 2: But if you have a lot of bad relations, wet them up Again.
- 43:20Speaker 2: Tricky call for me, because they will come back in power and I don't have a whole lot of high expectations about what they're going to do regarding crime and making arrest in the crime situation, so to speak.
- 43:29Speaker 2: I don't have a whole lot of faith in that anyway.
- 43:32Speaker 2: So I am not sure I'm not familiar with these things.
- 43:36Speaker 2: When he came up with a comment to stop payments like answering torture.
- 43:42Speaker 2: What's really coming up of that is a price of 63,000 dollars.
- 43:47Speaker 2: These are actually prices for money rates for Prime Minister.
- 44:04Speaker 2: Dr Keith Rowley said no one needs to be re-traumatized by persons ona political platform who are only intending on using it to create fair mongering among the masses.
- 44:14Speaker 2: I don't know, if, in this country, you had to do too much of fair mongering, I would talk reluctantly.
- 44:20Speaker 2: I would say Avapad knows no more official security advisers.
- 44:25Speaker 2: He advised me not to talk about these things, but I would talk about them lightly because I hear some voice notes and things going wrong and some recordings of phone conversation.
- 44:32Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody has any fair mongering to do here, though, but alright, instead of here, poseidon Bisesel, to give citizens something useful for society to engage in as a response to the criminal element.
- 44:44Speaker 2: But talking about MTDmatic and all the clip all of a sudden a script that somebody wrote for the opposition leader who went off and made a fool of herself.
- 45:03Speaker 2: This is all Rowley said on Saturday night as she responded to questions during the conversation with the Prime Minister at the Lahoya Complex in St Joseph.
- 45:11Speaker 2: Rowley cautioned that there was a problem with the conversation being touched by Poseidon Bisesel elaborated.
- 45:17Speaker 2: In our society, our young people who are fashion conscious know that lingo.
- 45:22Speaker 2: They know what that means.
- 45:25Speaker 2: When you bring that to the center state and bring it on a political platform to be part of the speech and not educating anybody, it's simply given recognized rank to something that is detrimental and deleterious to our well-being.
- 45:39Speaker 2: As I read this, I tend to agree with the star certain extent.
- 45:45Speaker 2: I may be putting too much hope and faith in politicians still, but I'm not sure how comfortable I am with the rhetoric being wet them up and empty the clip and reload.
- 46:03Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
- 46:04Speaker 2: I don't think we should, as the most learned politicians are some of the best and brightest society.
- 46:11Speaker 2: Have Right, for example, no joke, right.
- 46:13Speaker 2: Kamala Pasadbisa herself has done a lot Well educated, exposed, you traveled, you know what I mean.
- 46:21Speaker 2: You have your whole good jobs, you keep good company.
- 46:24Speaker 2: You have a lot of by any measure, of what education is.
- 46:28Speaker 2: You've been exposed a lot of it.
- 46:31Speaker 2: Why do we as leaders in a society need to bring ourselves down to a certain level?
- 46:36Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about Kamala alone, I'm just talking about Kamala in this situation, because we're always the same thing as far as I can see.
- 46:41Speaker 2: We tend to want to bring ourselves down to these levels, especially during campaigners, like we'll say whatever to stir up the masses, stir up the undecided, to appeal to your base or to basically piss off the next side.
- 46:57Speaker 2: You know, I mean it seems as though there's no end to where it goes.
- 47:01Speaker 2: So I think I'm not talking about the standing ground or the way it being described on a political platform.
- 47:08Speaker 2: Empty the clip on them and reload.
- 47:11Speaker 2: I understand the sentiment, I understand the fear.
- 47:13Speaker 2: I live in the same fear, the same issue, but my expectation is that the leaders, when they're talking to the masses, talk differently.
- 47:25Speaker 2: So, for instance, I was going to use a reference about the way I would talk here or the way I would talk on the block when I home.
- 47:34Speaker 2: It stays here talking and aligning and think, versus when I talk into staff.
- 47:38Speaker 2: And that's me, I think.
- 47:38Speaker 2: But I frightened to say anything about business again and frighten, I don't want nobody to know.
- 47:42Speaker 2: I don't have a business.
- 47:43Speaker 2: I work in the ministry.
- 47:45Speaker 2: That's why I don't know me Afraid.
- 47:47Speaker 2: So the rhetoric is what I mean, like the statement.
- 47:52Speaker 2: Empty the clip and reload.
- 47:53Speaker 2: Should that be the statement coming from?
- 47:55Speaker 2: Let's assume that she's vying to be prime minister, how comfortable you are with the prime minister, the country, saying A crime bad, empty the clip and reload.
- 48:04Speaker 2: That makes me a little bit uneasy.
- 48:10Speaker 2: That's just me.
- 48:11Speaker 2: Rowley said, however, that I was unfortunate that the majority of the nation's young people were not entered, that and for those who were entered, they know what they are choosing as their way of life.
- 48:20Speaker 2: Oh sorry, he said, noted that such a law provided a license for our muses clearance to act on without proportionality.
- 48:27Speaker 2: I don't think that's why these idol rollers are not sure that this standard law gives clearance to act without proportionality.
- 48:34Speaker 2: There is proportionality.
- 48:35Speaker 2: The question is, what is proportionality?
- 48:37Speaker 2: Our laws now say I think it's equal and opposite forces, the way it's stated.
- 48:43Speaker 2: So I must prove that I must not overdo with the force that I use to stop somebody.
- 48:48Speaker 2: But boy, listen, fair as hell of a thing.
- 48:51Speaker 2: Yes, why are you supposed to do All like me?
- 48:53Speaker 2: Or like me who call one?
- 48:55Speaker 2: So I close my eyes, turn my face and I squeeze yes, and hopefully best if somebody seen by me.
- 48:59Speaker 2: But I mean he can't say that.
- 49:02Speaker 2: So if a man come here and he put that ice pick, I have to put away my phone.
- 49:06Speaker 2: I speak now.
- 49:07Speaker 2: This is such a tricky thing with our law now.
- 49:11Speaker 2: But you see, somebody issues with standing your ground laws in states in the US that already have issues like racial tension or racial divide or class divide or whatsoever it might be, and a judicial system that might not support or it supports justice Street one.
- 49:29Speaker 2: I close, you know I mean sometimes now everybody get the same kind of justice as the other.
- 49:33Speaker 2: We could, we could, we could debate whether or not this is a good plan for our society, given the dynamic of who is the people doing the wetting and who is the people getting the wet.
- 49:44Speaker 2: We don't want to.
- 49:45Speaker 2: We don't want to have a conversation, but it's an important conversation if you want to put standing your ground laws in place, because then we want to see what justice looks like.
- 49:52Speaker 2: And if justice only had in one direction, you know what I mean, because is it that only certain people allowed to stand the ground, or a certain racial background and so on, or ethnic background, or is it that only a certain class of people is allowed to stand the ground, or is it well, all of you just good standing ground when we have legal firearms?
- 50:12Speaker 2: And again, the biggest issue for me is is that the society that we want?
- 50:17Speaker 2: So this was Ronald's response.
- 50:20Speaker 2: The other article I was reading was basically him coming out and saying Prime Minister, this is from what?
- 50:26Speaker 2: Where?
- 50:27Speaker 2: Here is News memory?
- 50:30Speaker 2: Let's pretend that.
- 50:31Speaker 2: No, this is actually from the Express Leah Sorias.
- 50:34Speaker 2: Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley says standing ground legislation being proposed by the UNC has no place in Trinidad and Tobago, would only create division and an additional problem for the country.
- 50:43Speaker 2: Standing ground legislation standing your ground is legislation that puts one group against what they believe is another group.
- 50:50Speaker 2: That is causing them to be fearful, and it has no place in Trinidad and Tobago.
- 50:55Speaker 2: The society is very fra.
- 50:56Speaker 2: This society is a very fractured society.
- 50:59Speaker 2: We have divisions that could be easily exploited and it is not the government of Trinidad and Tobago's position that we militarize the country and that we give a gun to everybody.
- 51:10Speaker 2: Rowley said during the PNM's conversation with the Prime Minister well, this is at Lahoy.
- 51:15Speaker 2: You're still talking about this, right, if I am.
- 51:17Speaker 2: You said it's something that has to be carefully thought out and properly managed.
- 51:20Speaker 2: He asserted that the standing ground law would create an environment of a free for all, where people should focus and ask questions.
- 51:26Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the truth.
- 51:27Speaker 2: I don't know if they have evidence to provide that anywhere that have standing ground law.
- 51:31Speaker 2: People should first and ask questions after.
- 51:33Speaker 2: I think the issue with the standing ground law is that in the application of standing ground laws, particularly where you have people who already have some kind of divide so called a racial divide or otherwise the application of the law and the enforcement of the penalty or no enforcement of penalty, that is what ends up being contentious.
- 51:52Speaker 2: I don't know that Florida people just walking around shooting at you and Florida all the time and I never see my I mean the man just shooting people because they have a standing ground law.
- 52:00Speaker 2: But the the morality story right, and the core of all of this, we mustn't forget that at the end of the day, you have a citizenry that worried and afraid about crime.
- 52:13Speaker 2: I do.
- 52:13Speaker 2: I don't.
- 52:14Speaker 2: I don't like the fact that the political conversation now going in, going back, or maybe it never moved from a we versus them and we policy, better versus them policy, almost like they forget any outcome.
- 52:26Speaker 2: I tell you, sometimes I realize these people and power them, forget they're working for we, they forget they have a job or they, they, they, they forget us and they only talking to one another.
- 52:36Speaker 2: Sometimes they might make a mistake and talk to the base every now and again, but most of the time the reality is that these, these, these fellows just having a back and forth conversation and them talking to each other and it's a sad thing to see in the face of everything that we know in the society.
- 52:54Speaker 2: But again, I come here, I never hear from no center serious talk, never, no matter how serious thing.
- 53:02Speaker 2: Yet but the idea of standing a ground laws not new to Calypso, you know.
- 53:07Speaker 2: And if we're talking about beat people, we can't leave another, one of the biggest bad young in Calypso either.
- 53:13Speaker 2: I don't tell me friends and family not to worry or fear, or likely it is as first time.
- 53:47Speaker 3: Ok, criminals, beware all you got to hear Mother ras.
- 54:07Speaker 3: Beware this year.
- 54:08Speaker 3: All you got to hear this among the licking dough all over Tom's Dying in so sweet a street.
- 54:15Speaker 3: All you know who to be gonna help me.
- 54:17Speaker 3: I don't tell my friends and my family not to worry Anyone at them in the fair with me take it easy, don't worry to make me truly say the lie of me and if you have any mail, I leave an email to you.
- 54:32Speaker 3: Tell your sister to come down quick, alright, alright, alright, there's enough.
- 54:55Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 54:56Speaker 2: Badness, we come to talk about it's sister.
- 54:58Speaker 2: Come down quick.
- 54:59Speaker 2: When you listen to it you know the calypso is telling a story.
- 55:03Speaker 2: The song just go to show you where the more times change, the more they remain the same.
- 55:08Speaker 2: But it come out a little early from.
- 55:11Speaker 2: I think they just gave out verse and chorus.
- 55:16Speaker 2: That's from a medley, the original song.
- 55:18Speaker 2: I'm not getting a clean enough version of the original song, but I will show you like now in these days it's home invasion and it's gondong gang rivalry.
- 55:27Speaker 2: I see, when they kill you they say immediately it's family feud and the police come out and say they Working on motives for the thing.
- 55:35Speaker 2: But social media then decide it's family feud and they see some old posts.
- 55:39Speaker 2: And so then social media play judge, durian, executioner, but the kind of crime they had then was a different ballgame.
- 55:46Speaker 2: So they cry me out now.
- 55:47Speaker 2: But the song so put and the man say my friend and my family, not to worry anyone of them interfere with me, take it easy, don't worry.
- 55:58Speaker 2: To beg the jury, save the lawyer's fee and if I have any mail I live in the royal jail.
- 56:04Speaker 2: So the story telling the same exact issue we haven't Now, we've been having since back then.
- 56:12Speaker 2: So me knowing the solution is to hand out the gun now and I've heard the front level of crime they had back in the day.
- 56:19Speaker 2: I hear the voice of the leaf out right All around them.
- 56:24Speaker 2: Club used to see them.
- 56:25Speaker 2: They begging for Bob when you pass by straaaan, they stretching their hand Partner, give me something there you don't have.
- 56:35Speaker 2: So you walk away.
- 56:36Speaker 2: Next morning you get up in a ravine your head boss, your pocket clean.
- 56:39Speaker 2: Now tell me how you don't tell my friends and my family, but the song of them telling you that they think at past.
- 56:49Speaker 2: Well, they go and listen to the original song and hear what they are.
- 56:52Speaker 2: They talk about St James.
- 56:53Speaker 2: I don't like that part and I don't like that verse Because St James is still one of the most peaceful, one of the most peaceful and law abiding places they can find in the country.
- 57:03Speaker 2: But go and find Sparrow Royal Jail and listen to the whole song over here.
- 57:07Speaker 2: But in reality the times change and the level of crimes change Again.
- 57:13Speaker 2: The more things change, the more they remain the same.
- 57:16Speaker 2: Going back to my Lady Kamla right, I've had a clip to play for all of you.
- 57:20Speaker 2: I hope all of you hear this by now.
- 57:23Speaker 2: But it's thoroughly Impressive to me that not only are they Talking about who will stand here growing an empty clip and reload and wear them Up and stuff.
- 57:33Speaker 2: The newest development this week is that they are going Head first into a supportive, in other words, they openly stamp in and Supporting the Trinibad movement and the songs that the people singing.
- 57:48Speaker 2: They openly coming out and saying they are supporters of Trinibad.
- 57:52Speaker 2: So little Maca million, who is part of the party, who is maybe the only person who might know Trinibad music and understand what Trinibad is.
- 58:00Speaker 2: He's again what you want to call it manager, producer.
- 58:03Speaker 2: He's in music for a long, long time.
- 58:04Speaker 2: Maybe Arnold Roberts has a liman thing to know a little bit.
- 58:08Speaker 2: I can't tell you anybody in the UNC who I would say of Han Is like a Trinibad fan or anything like this.
- 58:14Speaker 2: But listen to the words Leader have to say.
- 58:17Speaker 2: Don't take it from me.
- 58:18Speaker 2: Take confirmation from the leader of the UNC, the right honorable Kamla Passat Bisesa 2020, we had an artist singing with us His name, prince Swami.
- 58:32Speaker 8: He's now passed away.
- 58:33Speaker 8: May he rest in peace.
- 58:34Speaker 8: That's why they are shocked.
- 58:40Speaker 8: I understand what our young people are saying.
- 58:46Speaker 8: Maca Prince Swami is alive.
- 58:50Speaker 8: Please forgive me.
- 58:50Speaker 8: We will hear him sing again.
- 58:57Speaker 2: Listen to this people, the good special, the properly special, this woman say Prince Swami, and he's now passed away.
- 59:05Speaker 2: This woman is re-reading from piece of paper.
- 59:10Speaker 2: She's watching Swami and saying Swami, but she says Swami then and then she resurrects him immediately.
- 59:19Speaker 2: The most you can hope is to correct your mistakes.
- 59:22Speaker 2: Full of mistakes and flaws should never be pointed out.
- 59:26Speaker 2: I want to give you a quick reminder of what it is.
- 59:31Speaker 2: Prince Swami, if you don't know, prince Swami is one of the top Trini Bad artists easily, but songs that, regardless of where you think about Trini Bad, you go bong to like a few of them they have won this year from Boyboy to.
- 59:51Speaker 2: This is not the first UNC song I've seen from Boyboy.
- 59:55Speaker 2: I wonder if the one they used this year was the one they used from last election A good few Trini Bad artists To do drops or jingles or political things for them Mostly.
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: I'm not sure if at the Corporate level, like at the UNC song or you, could do a song for somebody in a constituency.
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: I know they had a good few people who had gotten songs within the constituency and I guess PNM answer to that was PNM had gotten a right foot, left foot, pnm kind of Trini Bad version Of a song done and it was kind of bad, but UNC had used Trini Bad killer Boyboy and I just want to play for you.
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: Music, music, music, music, music Music.
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: Music.
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: Music, music, music, music.
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: I can't remember, but pretty sure there was not a lot to talk and the campaign about any party supporting the trendy bad movement or coming out openly and saying that.
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: But this week I see people coming out and saying the trendy bad movement is thing and that's what the youths following and they buying into it.
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: Again, it was clearly a playful vote.
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: It was clearly a playful understand.
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: If you listen to what he's saying, if you have a hard time waiting, very, very direct and this is what the youths listening to From the standpoint of the artist.
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: Right, if you are artists or calypso, would you join that, would you sing them kind of songs for political parties?
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: Some artists stay away from it completely, but I remember some Jamaican artists I can't remember who it was or if it was a fan my mind telling them baby, sham, right, but I feel like I wrong about that because I don't remember any political song here.
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: There was a time when, of course, ilp versus JLP, jamaica Labour Party versus PNP, the dancehall artist is a big part of how they campaign now and artists that might be which is surprisingly to me in Jamaica might be frowned upon among the political class or the upper class, or the aristocrats as we call them Among the society.
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: They don't really like the dancehall that much or what dancehall stands for, but boy, they get to like them.
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: Around politics time.
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: I remember Spice being the latest person who was being criticized for doing a political song and the artist at the time was basically saying listen, I'm an artist.
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: If I get approached by somebody from a corporate standpoint to do a song for their business or add or jingle, that's what I do for a living.
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: So if I get approached and they deal right from a political party, I will do that.
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: And he was basically saying that that is not any reflection that I political, I stand for the party and what they do and so on.
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: They call me for a song, I'm gonna do this song and I will perform this song and think, if they want.
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: Now I suppose that you can be directly opposed to the party and still do that.
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: I think anybody who like morally, if you're really against a party, you're not gonna do it, but if you find two of them parties is the same.
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: Like me, I find it's the same like a luck.
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: Luck.
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: Maybe you just take that check and you move forward.
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: You know, I mean, go on with your career, but it will be forgotten because I mean so.
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: I mean he had many, many more hits after this one, so it's not like that badly affect his career or anything.
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: But I find Anticam's needs are I mean, look how he's nice a young boy called Anticamela.
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: I remember killing more for the political platform while they got themselves together that money.
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: And he know who you're using for your song.
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: They support Trini Bad, but the biggest Trini Bad artist they have you getting that name wrong.
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: Of all the people named, of all the people named to get wrong, you will get swan done name wrong.
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: But anyway, I don't mention Jamaica already.
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: I want to go on to Salute in Marshall Montana again, the keys to the city of Kingston, but before I do that I had to get back.
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: I had to get back to the war lord.
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: I had to get back to the baddest man in Calypso to play.
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: If there are a gangster version of Calypso, this man will be singing it to nobody, because this particular song is about what badness used to look like for us back in the day.
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: We have again Salute to people like my guy Alvie and uncle Kenny Ressenpiece Antigotru.
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: These are the people who I go to for this kind of information on Calypso, right, and I'm always talking about Anilope's the other day from home on the base and saying you know it's a real story and all that.
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: The song I'm going to play by Blakey is Steelban Clash and talking to them I started to understand that Steelban Clash was written about a real situation that would have gone with Steelban.
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: You know the Steelban's used to fight often back in the day.
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: So when man are based pattern thing is heavy butto cut last whatever bottle like that in the pan.
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: Thank God we've evolved past that time.
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: And when he heard his stories from the elders who was a part of that back in the day, right, it's make you feel good to know, it's make you feel like because when you see pan now, it have no kind of fight whatsoever in pan.
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: When you look at the faces behind pan, when you watch Chakri and you watch Murgrello and these youths, it have no kind of badness in it as the pan is the most docile thing it have, is the most peaceful thing it could possibly have.
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: So them things is give me hope that we will live to see a Trinidad and Tobago where all this thing about bad we go, look, we'll be looking back at this and you say you remember when they used to talk about standing ground laws and gun and Trinidad, we wouldn't gun.
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: We don't have no kind of guns here.
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: That is not a necessity is give you hope for that, because apparently back in the day when it's Steelban time, steelban time is about fight and chop and bottle and them kind of thing, and no song better embodies that than Steelban clash by Lord Blakey.
- 1:08:10Speaker 4: Why you go to bed in Vedas and Tokyo.
- 1:08:13Speaker 4: Me friend run and left his hat when they hit him a piece ball.
- 1:08:20Speaker 4: But never me again jumping on hey.
- 1:08:27Speaker 4: With a beating sweet.
- 1:08:51Speaker 4: Ah-ha coming up back street, ah-ha, tokyo coming down, beating very slow and friend-22, bang slash bam-ay-oo if you see, caught in lush never meet again.
- 1:09:07Speaker 4: The jumping a steel-burning porcupine, yeah.
- 1:09:22Speaker 4: Ah-ha, ah-ha, let's go when the ting get hot.
- 1:09:35Speaker 4: Ah-ha, if you see men get hot.
- 1:09:37Speaker 4: Ah-ha, lord beg he.
- 1:09:40Speaker 4: Run in a house by a lady white on top the lady bed.
- 1:09:46Speaker 4: They felt a bottle and bust me head never meet again the jumping a steel-burning porcupine.
- 1:09:53Speaker 4: Ah-ha, Ah-ha.
- 1:09:54Speaker 4: Thank you, ladies, and gentlemen.
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: Thank you, friends, live.
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: Great love Blakey.
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, caleb.
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: So done, bad in many ways, apparently bad in many ways.
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: Tough, tough, tough guys.
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: But again, michelle gets keys to the city in Kingston.
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: I think I would.
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: I don't think I would ever live to see this right.
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: There are two sides to this story.
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: But Jamaica honors Soka star during Independence festivities, right.
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: So Jamaica Independence was last week.
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: Happy Independence to Jamaica.
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: Oh, you're not coming up.
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: So King of Soka, marshall Montana, has received keys to the city of Kingston, jamaica, in recognition of his music career, which has positively influenced fans in the Caribbean and in the world.
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: Montana was honored as Jamaica Celebrated Independence Day at the country's national stadium on Sunday.
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: Happy 61st to Jamaica and to Trinidad and Tobago, montana said after receiving the award in front of a packed stadium.
- 1:11:14Speaker 2: So we turned in.
- 1:11:14Speaker 2: 61st to this one, marshall.
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: I'm very proud to say I was born in Trinidad and Tobago, but the first time I ever went to school was in Jamaica.
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: What, hold on, hold on, let me read it.
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: I'm very proud to say I was born in Trinidad, but the first time I ever went to school was in Jamaica.
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: I went to school at Mona Basic.
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: My brother went to Hope Valley Experimental.
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: So Marshall is not just Trinidadian, proud Caribbean, jamaican, proud African.
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: If you're proud, say yeah, yeah, yeah, you're proud and strong.
- 1:11:48Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: What is he saying?
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: Why are you saying this?
- 1:11:52Speaker 2: He first time he went to school.
- 1:11:53Speaker 2: I can't feel about this.
- 1:11:56Speaker 2: I'm missing something here.
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: Anyway, in 1976, at the age of two, marshall and his brother Marcus, who was four at the time, moved to Jamaica with their parents, elizabeth, lady Montana, and their father, winston, monty Montana.
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: The senior Montanos were both former teachers Lady Paseo, a bachelor's degree in education, while Monty took up geology at Mona campus.
- 1:12:15Speaker 2: We took our children with us and we continued to teach them our values.
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: Elizabeth, seriously, there's a manifestation for every action love one another.
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: That this has been Marshall's mission since he was a little child.
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: If you listen to this music, the common thread is always love, unity and peace.
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, I'll get it.
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: I'll get it.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: She said she had it.
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: Marshall has worked with about 25 Jamaican artists, opening them up to Soka music.
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: He also worked with legendary Byron Lee.
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: He continues to work with Jamaican artists another artist around the world.
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: This is a very proud moment.
- 1:12:55Speaker 2: Comment to fruition yesterday, the international entity not only takes his Instagram page and highlights his latest achievement Thank you, jamaica, for the key study city and your hearts, as I definitely felt the love of the 38,000 in the stadium last night.
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: What a proud moment for Caribbean unity.
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: Caribbean culture reggae, soccer, dance, all Afro Asian, all present in celebration of music, he added.
- 1:13:16Speaker 2: Jamaica Prime Minister Andrew Holness presented the citations of Marshall Montana amid screams from the crowd.
- 1:13:22Speaker 2: Prime Minister Holness also highlighted that both Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago celebrated 61 years this year.
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: He said we are part of a Caribbean family and one of the things that joins us together as our people is music.
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: Music is unity and your music is about the unity of Caribbean people.
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: We are so proud of you and it is our great pleasure to have bestowed the keys of the city of Kingston to you as an ambassador of the Caribbean and Caribbean people.
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: God bless you.
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: The CEO of the Kingston municipality says some words to her, so salute to him and I appreciate the fact that, marshall, the reason I say I don't think I would ever see that is because, again, when I was in Jamaica, I don't know that.
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: I don't know that there was such a resounding reception to soccer music that any soccer music or soccer artist could have got the keys to the city.
- 1:14:17Speaker 2: At the time I was there, it would not be Marshall.
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: I remember when I went to Jamaica the first time, really maybe the first time I ever went Jumbie was his song, for what kind of ball at that time.
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: And I remember my friend Simone was playing there for a good friend of mine named Desmond over there and boy, listen, that music was getting Desmond a headache, which I could understand why a foreigner might hear Jumbie and think I was thinking to myself Simone, you choose your own song to play for the man.
- 1:14:49Speaker 2: You have to be of kind of a lot of understanding like Jumbie.
- 1:14:52Speaker 2: Jumbie is a contextual song, if they ever was one right.
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: So to see us reach the point where Keystreet's to Kingston being handed out to a soccer artist is a huge amount of progress in 20 years.
- 1:15:10Speaker 2: And I don't want to disconse, I don't want to act like when I went to Jamaica.
- 1:15:12Speaker 2: It was the first time they ever heard about soccer because, of course, branly and then were there introducing and flying the soccer flag.
- 1:15:18Speaker 2: For a long time They've had this name, lord Laro.
- 1:15:20Speaker 2: I've played here a few times who would have been from Trinidad but living in Jamaica, and if you go back to people like Lentate and so on, they would have talked about people who in Trinidad, who contributed to what is the sound of Reggae now and Reggae coming from Calypso.
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: So I don't want to talk like if 2008-09, whenever I went there, is when things start right.
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: I'm just saying that this, what we call in soccer music, the festival and carnival music, is not what it was there.
- 1:15:45Speaker 2: It's not what it is now.
- 1:15:47Speaker 2: It wasn't when it was back then.
- 1:15:48Speaker 2: So to see somebody getting that and if somebody had to get back then it would be Destro.
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: It definitely was not going to be here.
- 1:15:54Speaker 2: It definitely was not going to be Marshall.
- 1:15:56Speaker 2: Marshall was not as loved as Destro them times, but clearly a lot has changed.
- 1:15:59Speaker 2: Jamaica I saw within the last few weeks Marshall was performing there, not Marshall Bungee and Fehan huge sellout crowds, people singing along with his song, word for Word.
- 1:16:10Speaker 2: You saw it with Marshall as well performing in his stadium.
- 1:16:14Speaker 2: One of the things that I enjoy seeing as well is I can't remember what was the occasion, but I saw Bungee and them on stage and Bunty killer on stage vibing with them and he see it with a lot of dance, all artists vibing with the soccer artists just hyping his song.
- 1:16:28Speaker 2: Marshall Bungee and Bunty killer had no song together but they one of them called out the other one and they do some songs, you know, I mean back and forth and they chant back and forth and that was.
- 1:16:38Speaker 2: That is nice to see because, again, that's not something I thought I would have seen, certainly in my lifetime, at least my lifetime Lyman and thing I still live.
- 1:16:46Speaker 2: But I never thought I would have seen that.
- 1:16:48Speaker 2: And you see, kesson, kesson, shaggy, having one of the bigger songs that cross the genre with, I mean, that mood, that that is one of the bigger songs that they have.
- 1:16:58Speaker 2: So that is great to see.
- 1:17:00Speaker 2: Now my question to this, and I don't want to rain on this in any way or make anything negative about this, but I had to ask how many dance all artists now have keys to the city.
- 1:17:14Speaker 2: I want to Google it.
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: I feel like I am not going to come up with much dance all artists with keys to the city, keys to Kingston.
- 1:17:22Speaker 2: Because, again, from my limited view, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know how well received this would have been in Jamaica.
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: Because if I make reggae music from scratch and that is my genre, that represents me all over the world and I make dance all music out of reggae music right, if you want to call it that and add ska music and so much other genres of music, and not being xenophobic or anything and I don't want to be bad talking to Trini's, I don't want to be the dude who's saying Trini's don't deserve this because, but I will get there too, but Trini's don't deserve this because we had to get Jamaica and that.
- 1:18:12Speaker 2: But I just question it.
- 1:18:15Speaker 2: The attitude towards dance all and reggae in Jamaica sometimes make me worry because, trini, that is a place where love dance all music and love reggae music.
- 1:18:24Speaker 2: Many, many people who travel here, who thought they will be here in Soka year on, will quickly realize that on the radio for many, many years, maybe up to the most recent years, you will hear much more dance all and reggae music on our airwaves so particularly urban airwaves than you would ever hear.
- 1:18:41Speaker 2: Trini dad in music, which used to be a complaint here, right, so we embrace reggae music.
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: Several dance all artists and reggae artists have come here and sold out shows over the years.
- 1:18:53Speaker 2: Right, the bounty killers, the beanie man all the way up to today, wait, and maybe flower gone, and them dad laser and them fellas.
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: Let me start from bounty and beanie all the way up to skilly begging, them who come last week, and those shows Ramasibh, biron, messiah and Yisra Vanity at the end of the day, people, people embrace that and they love it.
- 1:19:11Speaker 2: Right at ground level it is embraced and even if you want to talk about like legacy acts like Boris Godd, not John Holt, all these are Ken Lazarus, the men come here and make a killing on Mother's Day show and things.
- 1:19:27Speaker 2: So we embrace that.
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: And I wonder sometimes about Jamaica's own embracing of their music.
- 1:19:34Speaker 2: And because my one of my first trips to Jamaica was on an Independence Day.
- 1:19:39Speaker 2: In Jamaica make a mess.
- 1:19:40Speaker 2: Well, I booked the flights to get some business done over there, not realizing that their Independence Day was this.
- 1:19:47Speaker 2: When I get up to make moves the morning, I realize the whole of Kingston empty is like what's going on is Independence Day.
- 1:19:52Speaker 2: You see, ignorance, I love nothing and I say, alright, I don't do shipping this already I waste my time here because I waste a whole day on the ground.
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: I must hear three days.
- 1:19:59Speaker 2: I booked the flight for or booked the trip for, and I booked it a wrong holiday.
- 1:20:04Speaker 2: So I say, you know what?
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: Let me make the most of this.
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: And I remember going on not so beloved.
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: At that time I was staying in a hotel called courtly.
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: Right, you could leave courtly and walk up to not so beloved and it was amazing for me to see like the block off not so beloved and the first stage there and the people I was seeing performing there is like Alton Ellis and Ken Bhutan, people who I would know John Holders was there as well, people who I would know from listening to song clash right when it's tuned for tuned them as the men who tune playing.
- 1:20:30Speaker 2: And is the first time I get to see them in real life and I was super excited there to see it.
- 1:20:37Speaker 2: And the people who were there looking at it the whole crowd was enamored by.
- 1:20:42Speaker 2: It is like being in a trend that in crowd watching reggae artists is like the same among the love.
- 1:20:47Speaker 2: So it's like they love for dance or music or reggae music not missing from what you see in only growing in Kingston.
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: But sometimes I wonder what happened with the upper echelons, like the people running the society, the politicians, the business people do they really love reggae music and dance or music and stuff?
- 1:21:03Speaker 2: I'm saying that Marshall, as far as I concerned, deserve keys to the city in any city.
- 1:21:09Speaker 2: He go to any world and that's my bias talking right, because Marshall is one of the greatest artists of all time.
- 1:21:16Speaker 2: The city you could deny Marshall and but it makes me wonder, like you have so many artists you know, was one of the things I saw and I saw somebody talking about this on YouTube, right, I saw Freddie McGregor performing in some first and it's just so funny because Freddie McGregor had a bad experience in our customs or immigration or something here and he's saying never coming back to turn that.
- 1:21:38Speaker 2: But if you know Freddie McGregor, somebody biggest reggae songs were done by Freddie McGregor you Google him right and listen to him on your own time.
- 1:21:44Speaker 2: He good, he's bad, bad, bad artists if you don't know, right, legacy, act right and he come and he gets stroke and you know feeling good.
- 1:21:51Speaker 2: And I saw him performing on the Japan Japan reggae cruise now where he had a sit-down and perform and that must be hard.
- 1:21:57Speaker 2: I mean it's hard to mention for me to see, as I find much less what his family going, going through and his son.
- 1:22:04Speaker 2: I mean them first big ship productions.
- 1:22:05Speaker 2: They have their own thing going on too, but the son traveling them and they help me, backup singers helping them, and you know how it goes.
- 1:22:10Speaker 2: When we saw Spyro go through that right where he had to sit on and perform, and I saw a very emotional Freddie McGregor perform during some fest, doing his big hits and so on, and emotional about the love and everything that he received, which was enormous.
- 1:22:26Speaker 2: So it's surprising to me that somebody like Freddie McGregor don't have keys to the city.
- 1:22:34Speaker 2: But but Marshall Montana, I know you're giving it is.
- 1:22:37Speaker 2: I find it like I wonder if I overthink in this or would you feel disrespected if there is a case?
- 1:22:45Speaker 2: So I don't know, I don't, I can't, I can't, I can't see why people in Jamaica would not be upset about this and I hope we are strength audience who happy for Marshall and everything.
- 1:22:58Speaker 2: I don't want to take anything away from Marshall, but I just want to understand where are the accolades for your own music, like when Bob Marley is not a national hero of Jamaica or or your biggest reggae artist, who might be alien, might be going through things, might be, might be, you know, handing over to the new generation, where they are accolades and they are, why they not hung?
- 1:23:29Speaker 2: Well, actually I say hung hi guys, something good, but why?
- 1:23:32Speaker 2: Why they not revered on where, where their statues are, on Kingston, on where they keys I mean Freddie McGregor, singer, song name keys to the city.
- 1:23:43Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, maybe I overthink in this and I don't know feeling good about this.
- 1:23:47Speaker 2: And I'm happy for Marshall.
- 1:23:48Speaker 2: I don't ever want to be I mean, only know me well enough.
- 1:23:50Speaker 2: Right, I glad for Marshall, but I ain't feeling good about the fact that I don't think there are many reggae artists and probably no dance or artists who will ever get no keys to the city for nothing when Marshall get at, and the argument will be because I see it in his speech that you're promoting love and unity and peace and togetherness and stuff, and I mean I just think it could be a slap in the face.
- 1:24:13Speaker 2: Let me, let me, let me add a layer to it.
- 1:24:15Speaker 2: Right, if tomorrow you were to find out that Marshall, david Rudder, who else you want?
- 1:24:21Speaker 2: Sparrow, blakey, kitchener, voice, go into boy, all our biggest artists, none of them are keys to policy spin, but them men called on a bearish here and say, bearish gang, listen, we gonna be in in that.
- 1:24:37Speaker 2: Not gonna happen that I don't know how that is not going to happen during that.
- 1:24:41Speaker 2: The way I'm gonna play, that way right, because due to a moderate vote, I am not sure you listen that they're, that I happen.
- 1:24:48Speaker 2: You know you're better do as a private ceremony, because that is going to be a huge problem in Trinidad and that ceremony is not going to go on.
- 1:24:56Speaker 2: It's not gonna go no further from the time that hit social media and who is who started to talk about that, that ceremony getting stopped, and they are going to have to pull back that decision.
- 1:25:07Speaker 2: So you see where I come in from right, because I'm surprised that this was done.
- 1:25:13Speaker 2: I'm surprised that people, people in Jamaica there's no more more operabord is and people are seeing it as a slap in the face, and I'm also surprised that so many Jamaicans stand up in.
- 1:25:22Speaker 2: Jamaica was one of the most prideful countries.
- 1:25:25Speaker 2: You know, if that Alabama Boat was pulling up by a Jamaican duck, that would end much worse because listen to Jamaicans so many most prideful people and listen to, but more people are to be swimming coming across that boat.
- 1:25:35Speaker 2: It would be bad.
- 1:25:36Speaker 2: It would be bad.
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: They should thank what is black Americans, who they are.
- 1:25:39Speaker 2: But Jamaicans fly the flag everywhere and things.
- 1:25:41Speaker 2: I was a little surprised that moved to see so many Jamaicans in the stadium just enjoying that show like it's nothing, like all your honor and another genre on.
- 1:25:50Speaker 2: Or learn somebody from our next country before you're on in those in your own land.
- 1:25:55Speaker 2: But again, maybe I overthink it.
- 1:25:57Speaker 2: They say I talk about them kind of thing too long.
- 1:25:58Speaker 2: Sorry, I did talk about it too long, but I feeling good about it so I wanted to make sure that it was said.
- 1:26:04Speaker 2: I find something inherently wrong with our system that rewards and anyway, nearly time for me to get out here and have a whole long list of things in front of me.
- 1:26:14Speaker 2: So I saw article that I want to bring up here that said the great resignation continues as one in four look to change jobs.
- 1:26:24Speaker 2: The great resignation is something that they say during COVID.
- 1:26:26Speaker 2: They are equalizing or a sort of a rethinking of what people really want out of their weekend life and what they can contribute.
- 1:26:35Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:26:36Speaker 2: So I'll read from the from Joel Julian here.
- 1:26:38Speaker 2: This is from late July such a great resignation continues as one in four continue to change jobs.
- 1:26:46Speaker 2: One in every four workers surveyed by PWC anticipates changing jobs within the next 12 months, saying they're feeling overworked and that they struggle to pay the monthly bills.
- 1:26:55Speaker 2: In April, price water or scooper surveyed 53,912 individuals who were in our work, in work or activity labor market.
- 1:27:03Speaker 2: The sample was designed to reflect a range of industries, demographic characteristics and working patterns.
- 1:27:10Speaker 2: The sample was structured across 46 countries and territories, and the sample sizes were scaled to reflect each territory or region share of the global GDP.
- 1:27:18Speaker 2: In other words, the same did the survey good.
- 1:27:20Speaker 2: Right, if it's PWC, it probably good and based on the results of that 2023 hopes and fears global workforce survey, employees say that they are even more likely to quit now than they will last year.
- 1:27:33Speaker 2: Despite softening the global economy, great resignation looks to continue.
- 1:27:37Speaker 2: One in four employees say that it is likely to change.
- 1:27:41Speaker 2: It is likely they will change jobs in the next 12 months, up from 19% last year.
- 1:27:46Speaker 2: Workers who said that they were most likely to change employees included those who feel overworked 44%.
- 1:27:51Speaker 2: Struggling to pay bills 38% and Gen Z 35%.
- 1:27:55Speaker 2: Important to pull out our Gen Z right.
- 1:27:56Speaker 2: We'll talk about it in response to the survey.
- 1:27:59Speaker 2: Pwc Trinidad.
- 1:28:01Speaker 2: Pwc Trinidad and Tobago territory leader, brian Hackett, said the message is clear CEOs must reinvent the workplace to retain and develop employees.
- 1:28:11Speaker 2: With the ongoing economic uncertainty, we see a global workforce that wants more pay and wants more purpose for their work.
- 1:28:18Speaker 2: Addressing these needs will be critical as leaders seek to transform their workplaces, enabling business model reinvention, profitable growth and job creation.
- 1:28:27Speaker 2: So, if you, if you wasn't following the global news, that idea of the great resignation is being discussed globally now because they say that post COVID alluded to it last week where people people see what the world could become and how the world could hold or grinds are stopped and they're looking for more out of their working life.
- 1:28:48Speaker 2: They looking for more to experience more.
- 1:28:50Speaker 2: Spoke about it in terms of travel.
- 1:28:51Speaker 2: Now, right, where flights booked, you're trying to book with miles at a book.
- 1:28:56Speaker 2: I am in advance get everybody looking to travel and enjoy itself.
- 1:28:59Speaker 2: People don't know when the next lockdown will come or when how long they will live, according to what the next pandemic is, or anything like that.
- 1:29:05Speaker 2: Hopefully we don't have anything like that again, right, but it shows us how important the role of businesses in our society where the people are price water or scooper so would be definitely thought leaders in the business spaces telling you that if the employment market is shifting, like what people want out of work, so you see an arise in the gig economy, the gig economy being things like Uber, city rides, shared people just working for is that gig are not taking full-time employment or in addition to my full-time employment, I have some things that do.
- 1:29:36Speaker 2: Other classes started recently as a master's class in digital marketing.
- 1:29:40Speaker 2: Right, and usually when I do the introduction, I spend some time trying to understand the students, introducing myself and so on.
- 1:29:47Speaker 2: And week one and one of the things that I took note of in this class is that most of the people in the class were saying that they did the MBA for upward mobility, which they don't need to find in their own companies.
- 1:30:00Speaker 2: They willing to go somewhere else, and most of them had something else that they do, so some people selling cake, some people the people have their side hustler or something else that they focused on, and you're finding that that is more and more in the workspace and it's becoming more and more prevalent and more relevant in our society.
- 1:30:18Speaker 2: To get that done if the bills and being paid by the eight to five or the eight to four and you need supplemental income.
- 1:30:24Speaker 2: The gig economies are good place to find it.
- 1:30:26Speaker 2: If you buy and sell some things, you drive some Uber, you're going up work and these things and you find work.
- 1:30:33Speaker 2: I spoke about those things some some weeks ago.
- 1:30:36Speaker 2: So when businesses have to adjust because the workforce is looking for something different, I think the idea of meaningful work is critical.
- 1:30:43Speaker 2: It's time to become more and more important for me.
- 1:30:46Speaker 2: Like I don't want to do work that are not finding any joy in anymore, it is more important for me to find benefits out of work.
- 1:30:56Speaker 2: It took me a long time when people used to talk about passion right, like finding a passion and pursue your dreams, and I used to find, like there's nonsense, because I figure out some things I could do and some skills I could have and once I could apply those skills and make money I could.
- 1:31:08Speaker 2: Who needs passion?
- 1:31:09Speaker 2: Who needs purpose?
- 1:31:10Speaker 2: You know I mean I used to say things like that like it shouldn't matter, but I said again more and more important to me and for instance, again, I had 151 episodes.
- 1:31:20Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
- 1:31:21Speaker 2: I appreciate your honor and applause and me make a sense.
- 1:31:26Speaker 2: Nobody in pain me to do this.
- 1:31:28Speaker 2: I doing this because I love doing this.
- 1:31:29Speaker 2: I love the feedback that people give man, the fact that I know I listen to podcasts, often to and radio, and I know how it is to run your radio in the morning and they land to an ear there or blaze and join up.
- 1:31:40Speaker 2: You can come out, and so I try to be as consistent as I could, not because somebody paying me to do it, because I want to do it and I enjoy the results that I get.
- 1:31:48Speaker 2: I feel good when I finish with that episode.
- 1:31:50Speaker 2: I don't feel so good when I realize I have a next episode to do and the amount of time and research is take me to do some.
- 1:31:56Speaker 2: But I feel good overall.
- 1:31:57Speaker 2: I feel much more good than I ever feel bad about this process.
- 1:32:01Speaker 2: Right, and that's what people looking for out of work these days.
- 1:32:04Speaker 2: So as business owners or business people, if you want to continue to attract the best and the brightest, we had a constantly adjust toward the market conditions look like and where we can continue to attract and keep the best people right.
- 1:32:19Speaker 2: So I always talk about business and how important business is as a society.
- 1:32:23Speaker 2: And if your business is not comfortable and they're not growing and they're not allowed to innovate and change because this is just a you'll ever.
- 1:32:30Speaker 2: About pastel factors also, modern classes week.
- 1:32:32Speaker 2: This is just a pastel factor is one of them.
- 1:32:34Speaker 2: Things that we care control.
- 1:32:35Speaker 2: If job market change is just what it is, the society is making macro environment changing and you adjust it so that you could continue to survive, right?
- 1:32:44Speaker 2: So if you live in a country a foot you run in a country and you can't make sure that businesses are allowed to adjust where we need to adjust, then you have a issue, right, and I say no, let's just see.
- 1:32:57Speaker 2: I saw some viral things going on this week that made me very, very uneasy and uncomfortable.
- 1:33:04Speaker 2: Right, if you ain't seen the note before, if you ain't hear the voice note before, go, go and look in your group that like the most back and I'll new WhatsApp group.
- 1:33:13Speaker 2: Finally, I can't play it, but it's basically a business owner responding to people who is extortionist, saying hey, what you want to do, we drop something and we tell you what to do and where you had to pay me and we want to do.
- 1:33:27Speaker 2: And the man basically saying hey, I went to any bank, I went to any hospital like I sick, I tried to think where I get money from to pay all your and that man saying so, you only study in yourself, you in studying your children, and them in studying your children.
- 1:33:40Speaker 2: Safety, and I thinking, boy, listen, we reach.
- 1:33:42Speaker 2: If this is the case.
- 1:33:44Speaker 2: If this is the case we reach because what we don't want to get to is a society where business people, such as a shop, don't shop and flee in the midst of this area, where there's a great resignation and people looking for more purpose and the rise of a gig economy.
- 1:34:00Speaker 2: You don't want to create a society where business people decide whatever I have and whatever I make so far, I done at that.
- 1:34:08Speaker 2: Let me go in a society where may have to worry about these kind of phone call I didn't, I lay on top of that.
- 1:34:13Speaker 2: When you have a police PR, show in beyond the tape, if you ask me, that's where it is is the spread the good word of the police force.
- 1:34:24Speaker 2: When you have one of the most senior and more visible policemen basically saying, yeah, them person, I'm going from jail and it's like I don't know.
- 1:34:34Speaker 2: I don't know what, I don't know what road we going down as a society and where we, where we need to arrest it.
- 1:34:41Speaker 2: But I do feel like our society, now our leaders in our society, we had maybe started to take a page from them.
- 1:34:51Speaker 2: Both people in Alabama and started attack with full force and he was a Joseph Tony because this can be it, that man can be left after getting a phone call like that to just fend for himself and defend himself.
- 1:35:05Speaker 2: And wherever I have map man, he has a seaboard out and wet them up.
- 1:35:08Speaker 2: And so this is this we can.
- 1:35:11Speaker 2: We can.
- 1:35:11Speaker 2: We can leave it to that, because then the society going all the way down the drain.
- 1:35:17Speaker 2: So I mean I don't want to say too much about, I can't say too much more about that and that one.
- 1:35:21Speaker 2: Find that record in yourself and see if you could make sense of that again.
- 1:35:25Speaker 2: I just here to play bad man Calypso tune, right, this is another one I wanted to take in from her.
- 1:35:33Speaker 2: I know I played this recently, right, I played this a few episodes ago.
- 1:35:37Speaker 2: But I wanted to notice something when it comes to badness in Calypso, it's really too men in charge well, well, I'm star to sweat man.
- 1:37:16Speaker 3: I'm soaking wet man, I'm so much wet.
- 1:37:19Speaker 3: That's the night I can't forget.
- 1:37:21Speaker 3: Canada gets me with 50 spectator and the way they come in up like they want to devour, but the heat and the excitement is then.
- 1:37:30Speaker 3: I remember They've been exposed.
- 1:37:33Speaker 3: Fuck it, I forget me wet.
- 1:37:34Speaker 3: Ya, I don't know what to do, but I just can't surrender.
- 1:37:38Speaker 3: I'm just a little cut, ladies, I just can't pretend I don't know what to do, but I just can't imagine what I'm gonna do.
- 1:37:45Speaker 3: I don't know what to do, but I just can't surrender.
- 1:37:47Speaker 3: When I'm out of my mind, I'm gonna get out of here.
- 1:37:49Speaker 3: What's the matter?
- 1:37:51Speaker 3: Can you still out?
- 1:38:38Speaker 3: That night I was really in a fright, me alone against 10, 10 of the vicious men.
- 1:38:44Speaker 3: I remember I had a chicken and a grandma 10 to one for her.
- 1:38:47Speaker 3: Well, I say to myself that was the last time I Was I getting wet on a run till I'm by Josh and Connor.
- 1:38:54Speaker 3: They take off in my tail and big sling and order.
- 1:38:57Speaker 3: Oh, and the colour and fun was a very good filter.
- 1:39:01Speaker 3: But I'm still falling, but no place to shelter it's.
- 1:39:07Speaker 3: Then I hear fuck, no, oh, when you come, set up, scatter, 10 to one for her 10 to one for her 10 to one is murder.
- 1:40:12Speaker 2: Now I start off this episode begging for women not to be hit with chair, so it's only right that I end this episode with a woman who is afraid no chair.
- 1:40:21Speaker 2: Kamala, I am a dangerous woman.
- 1:40:25Speaker 2: So this is from the newest thing from Sean Douglas.
- 1:40:30Speaker 2: Opposition leader Kamala Pasadbisa said that she's a dangerous woman but had to be so to stand up for the victims of violent criminals, whom she accused the government of ignoring.
- 1:40:42Speaker 2: She was addressing the UNC Rally at Pinata Head on Monday's local government lecture.
- 1:40:46Speaker 2: Wait, next week is local government lecture, so we can be okay, so good.
- 1:40:55Speaker 2: This is the last time that Kamala will be my topic for 5 or 6 topics, anything right.
- 1:41:00Speaker 2: So we could be done.
- 1:41:00Speaker 2: My next week we could just report on who in the election and we could move on Back to regularly scheduled program, right.
- 1:41:05Speaker 2: But when the politics in the air are covered, right.
- 1:41:08Speaker 2: After being a dangerous woman to protect you and your family, she what is called that shided that's what we say that she shided and unnamed people who, she said, had suddenly found their fake sense of humanity and seemingly prioritizing the rights of criminals over the rights of victims.
- 1:41:24Speaker 2: They all say nothing about crime.
- 1:41:28Speaker 2: They say nothing about robberies, nothing about rapes, nothing about murders, nothing about brutal home invasions.
- 1:41:33Speaker 2: They keep quiet about the dehumanizing treatment of the victims of crime.
- 1:41:37Speaker 2: They don't complain about how hard this ordinary citizens to live and survive here.
- 1:41:42Speaker 2: But when I say light up the criminals, they turn expert in what is reasonable for us and they're so concerned about the rights of bandits who force themselves into people's homes.
- 1:41:54Speaker 2: She scoffed that her critics were purportedly experts in race relations and are concerned about speech.
- 1:42:01Speaker 2: What about defending the victims of home invasions and crime?
- 1:42:06Speaker 2: Victims suffer from depression, anxiety, constant fear.
- 1:42:10Speaker 2: Victims sometimes commit suicide.
- 1:42:13Speaker 2: Victims, what is called a trigger warning.
- 1:42:17Speaker 2: Families are destroyed, marriages are broken, children are left scarred for life.
- 1:42:23Speaker 2: What about the feelings of the victims?
- 1:42:25Speaker 2: They call me a dangerous woman.
- 1:42:27Speaker 2: Yes, I have to be a dangerous woman Because there are too many weak men and weak women in positions that influence, who do nothing to protect you.
- 1:42:35Speaker 2: I'm not gonna short buck them, boy.
- 1:42:38Speaker 2: The weakest being the dictator.
- 1:42:42Speaker 2: Now, that's a hell of a statement.
- 1:42:43Speaker 2: They call the man dictator for so long.
- 1:42:46Speaker 2: Now, the weakest being the dictator.
- 1:42:48Speaker 2: I have to be a dangerous woman to protect you and your family.
- 1:42:52Speaker 2: Criminals pray unfair.
- 1:42:53Speaker 2: We have to put the fear into criminals.
- 1:42:57Speaker 2: This is something like a partner.
- 1:42:59Speaker 2: I'm not in this somewhere.
- 1:43:00Speaker 2: I know I'm not gonna call names, don't get nervous.
- 1:43:03Speaker 2: We have to put fear into the criminals.
- 1:43:06Speaker 2: I'm always contacted by victims of crime for help, so I understand what they go through.
- 1:43:12Speaker 2: Now that I read in this, you know who is the missing man from this.
- 1:43:15Speaker 2: As they put together the defenders of the UT If you've done her geographic and you've done have Jack Wano, you have Kamla beside Bisesso.
- 1:43:26Speaker 2: I see there's a union, men involved and them kind of thing.
- 1:43:29Speaker 2: But Roger come out and say, well, them involved, me involving, nothing like that at all.
- 1:43:34Speaker 2: Right, but you're putting together your forces, you're putting together your fey no steam, it's fey no.
- 1:43:42Speaker 2: So everybody joined together with them, kind of thing.
- 1:43:49Speaker 2: Nobody in here call themselves because this speech, something like the next person they announce, is Ian Allen.
- 1:43:55Speaker 2: But if it's the next week before the election, they must be incurred the delay.
- 1:43:57Speaker 2: But my prediction is that between now and the next election you'll go here, ian Allen, come back out in yellow to fight seat and all them kind of thing.
- 1:44:04Speaker 2: Because this is Ian Allen, kind of talking.
- 1:44:06Speaker 2: I mean he's the only man missing.
- 1:44:08Speaker 2: But where is he?
- 1:44:09Speaker 2: She say, beside Bisesso, seemingly defending, or?
- 1:44:14Speaker 2: I was always contacted by victims of crime for help, so understand what they go through.
- 1:44:18Speaker 2: I say so beside Bisesso seemingly defended her recent choice of language and advising homeowners facing home invasion to light them up.
- 1:44:26Speaker 2: At least I am trying to reach out and speak the youth language so they can become involved with the political process.
- 1:44:35Speaker 2: As leaders, we must humble ourselves and learn to listen to people we represent Really.
- 1:44:42Speaker 2: Let's explore, let's see if we can pull her back in power and see if she will drive on the ground in motor cars.
- 1:44:48Speaker 2: Anyway, you can't listen if you don't speak the same language.
- 1:44:51Speaker 2: I am trying to engage with them.
- 1:44:53Speaker 2: Every man and woman that was murdered had a son, a daughter, a mother, a father, siblings, a niece, a nephew.
- 1:44:59Speaker 2: We must not push these young people away.
- 1:45:01Speaker 2: It is our responsibility as adults to reach out and help.
- 1:45:05Speaker 2: She suggested most cabinet members ministers have firearm user licenses and otherwise well protected by police escorts.
- 1:45:13Speaker 2: As she accused the prime minister of hypocrisy towards calls to what calls for the general citizenry to also access legal firearms.
- 1:45:25Speaker 2: All police officers and prison officers must be granted a fuel for a personal firearm paid for by the state.
- 1:45:32Speaker 2: Our officers should be able to protect themselves and their family when they are off duty.
- 1:45:37Speaker 2: I also call on government to rescind that wicked 4%.
- 1:45:41Speaker 2: Insult our officers and give them a meaningful raise in salary.
- 1:45:46Speaker 2: This is politics at its best.
- 1:45:48Speaker 2: She quoted as saying when she was a more weak man on week one.
- 1:45:53Speaker 2: They don't see you as being forced out of your home by gangsters.
- 1:45:55Speaker 2: They don't see your children as under self-imposed curfew in hot spot areas.
- 1:45:59Speaker 2: They don't see you being extorted by criminals so they won't burn down your home or your business.
- 1:46:04Speaker 2: They don't see when your sons are forced to join gangs at gunpoint or be killed for refusing.
- 1:46:09Speaker 2: They don't see when your wives and daughters are being raped and being triggered.
- 1:46:13Speaker 2: They don't see when you're struggling with food prices, school supplies, rent.
- 1:46:18Speaker 2: I had to be a politician At some point.
- 1:46:22Speaker 2: I was going to jump in here and say that I become a mother Every time I say that she is calling me.
- 1:46:25Speaker 2: It's joke has been making, but I go and join the Oleg Simona platform.
- 1:46:29Speaker 2: I could say all these things and I feel like I could still up on these crowd.
- 1:46:32Speaker 2: I don't want to join any politics, I just want a chance to talk.
- 1:46:35Speaker 2: This weekend.
- 1:46:36Speaker 2: They should be in a in a wrong way, savannah, and one in Eddie Hart talking on platform.
- 1:46:42Speaker 2: I had to talk on a platform before my time up man and rile up some people and finding to see you know what I mean.
- 1:46:48Speaker 2: So look out for me and I'm looking forward to support.
- 1:46:52Speaker 2: I don't know what's up to.
- 1:46:53Speaker 2: Support the accounting, what I have here, support on a weekly basis All it do embarrass me.
- 1:46:57Speaker 2: Make sure they show up for me when I find my way in the political hustings and on the front line.
- 1:47:03Speaker 2: I just did to make this speech.
- 1:47:04Speaker 2: I'm bound for the votes.
- 1:47:05Speaker 2: I just want people to come and ball and think when you see a mixed speech.
- 1:47:08Speaker 2: But in the spirit of this episode and talking about dangerous woman and so on, I want to leave you with the warlord of Calypso, the baddest, the great lord Blakey.
- 1:47:20Speaker 2: Go and Google sparrow and Blakey stories from jail and all that kind of thing.
- 1:47:25Speaker 2: I want to leave you with my favorite lord Blakey song and a song about a woman who is a dangerous woman too, like Kamla, and I'll talk to you next week look at me cross playing this song, lord Blakey.
- 1:48:18Speaker 4: Oh, what a lovely face she put on.
- 1:48:22Speaker 4: She enjoyed smiling me, gela love you so bad?
- 1:48:30Speaker 5: I don't know what made me love so.
- 1:48:34Speaker 5: What she catch me sweet, what she give me the rough nights.
- 1:48:40Speaker 4: What made me love, so I don't know what to say about her.
- 1:49:12Speaker 4: Every day she do with me what she like.
- 1:49:16Speaker 4: I can't catch me better fry.
- 1:49:18Speaker 4: Who could ask me?
- 1:49:20Speaker 4: Never, mike, it's a vertigo to her.
- 1:49:23Speaker 4: Can't tell it to you because Can't see people go cry, and yet still it has some deceitful one in here.
- 1:49:31Speaker 4: We'll say that love little light, have a balling Maria.
- 1:49:34Speaker 4: Yeah, I love you so?
- 1:49:36Speaker 4: Bad.
- 1:49:37Speaker 4: Maria, if you leave me, now we'll be bad.
- 1:49:45Speaker 4: She somewhere hiding in the back, yeah as I finish it and get me money to take everything.
- 1:49:56Speaker 2: You're running me as somebody else.
- 1:49:57Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:50:18Speaker 4: This thing in me mind.
- 1:50:19Speaker 4: I want to say Holy time, it's blackling, that I miss you All over the nights.
- 1:50:24Speaker 4: She does with me Full spy for what I really don't know, and I can't make no fuss Cause it might be trouble.
- 1:50:31Speaker 4: So you see the position, friend.
- 1:50:34Speaker 4: But the old people have a truck.
- 1:50:36Speaker 4: Better say the longest rope.
- 1:50:37Speaker 4: Have a balling Maria, yeah, I love you so bad?
- 1:50:45Speaker 5: Maria, if you leave me now, we'll be bad Me granny.
- 1:50:53Speaker 4: She don't run and tell me so perfect, a week this all my car went with me.
- 1:50:59Speaker 4: Esa, I'll tell you it's time that some clear send me back.
- 1:51:31Speaker 4: So come before it's too late and don't make a mess and give you my address any woman to come by me.
- 1:51:39Speaker 4: Now, when you leave anyone, your friend want to try to send them by your break of me.
- 1:51:47Speaker 1: Bowling, maria, you better tell them they fuck when you leave me, you're welcome to come back.
- 1:51:57Speaker 4: It's not easy to spend.
- 1:51:58Speaker 4: Leave him money, maria.
- 1:52:02Speaker 4: Let them know the pressure you have to undergo emergency in countries.
- 1:52:08Speaker 4: Thank you, hey, folks we're back.
- 1:52:25Speaker 1: Hey, look at him, hey, look at him.
- 1:52:27Speaker 1: Hey look at him, look at him hello everybody.
- 1:52:54Speaker 2: I wonder if it would be appropriate to play that.
- 1:52:58Speaker 2: I don't play my favorite last one, but since we are done here, we are supposed to come next after that.
- 1:53:02Speaker 2: Let me go with it now, man, that's it.
- 1:53:53Speaker 5: If you see him, if you see him, if you see him, if you see him.
- 1:54:14Speaker 2: If you see him.
- 1:54:30Speaker 4: If you see him, if you see him, if you see him, if you see him.
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- 1:57:00Speaker 4: If you see him.
- 1:57:18Speaker 2: If you see him, if you see him, if you see him, if you see him, if you see him, if you see him.