Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Muni Long Talks 'Revenge' Album, Marriage-Split, Motherhood, Music Writing, Tour With Chris Brown + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning, Breakfast Club Morning,
- 0:05Speaker 1: everybody in stej Envy, Jess, Hilarious, Charlamage, the guy we
- 0:09Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren's filling in and
- 0:13Speaker 2: we got a special guest in the building. Her album
- 0:15Speaker 2: Revenge is out right now. Ladies and gentlemen, money no
- 0:18Speaker 2: welcome back.
- 0:19Speaker 3: How you feeling, man, I'm tired. I'm trying to keep.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Up fashion weeks like those honest answers.
- 0:25Speaker 3: No, it's a lot, you know, trying to keep up
- 0:28Speaker 3: trying to entertain. Everybody is sleep. So I could sing
- 0:32Speaker 3: do promo be a mom?
- 0:34Speaker 4: Yeah, be a mom? Wow?
- 0:35Speaker 3: Hello up.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Then this week you had fashion week because you've been
- 0:38Speaker 2: out and about.
- 0:39Speaker 3: Yeah. I did two shows the first day and then
- 0:44Speaker 3: I've just been doing another album promo. That's what I'm
- 0:48Speaker 3: really here for.
- 0:48Speaker 4: Gotcha.
- 0:49Speaker 5: What's your regimen?
- 0:50Speaker 2: Like?
- 0:50Speaker 5: Like when do you sleep or you eat? Do you
- 0:52Speaker 5: eat different when you want runs like.
- 0:53Speaker 3: This or yeah? Like I guess so hyper focused sometimes
- 0:56Speaker 3: I forget to eat.
- 0:57Speaker 5: Oh that's not good.
- 0:59Speaker 3: Yes, to have people remind me, like Greeny, my routine
- 1:04Speaker 3: is all over the place. And one thing I do
- 1:07Speaker 3: make sure I do is wash my face every night,
- 1:10Speaker 3: just kind of.
- 1:10Speaker 5: Like the makeup and practice de compressed.
- 1:15Speaker 3: Sometimes I have to I don't know if this is
- 1:18Speaker 3: a word, but like destimulate, Like if I'm over stimulated
- 1:22Speaker 3: throughout the day I come home, I just don't want
- 1:26Speaker 3: to talk.
- 1:27Speaker 6: Nobody talks about that enough over stimulation, because we're sitting
- 1:31Speaker 6: around with these phones all day. In between text messages
- 1:33Speaker 6: and phone calls and social media, you're constantly, constantly, constantly stimulated.
- 1:39Speaker 3: It's it's more like in the physical worlds, like sometimes
- 1:44Speaker 3: you go in these spaces, they're dusty a lot of
- 1:48Speaker 3: these buildings. But yo, I don't understand how y'all.
- 1:52Speaker 5: No, I'm good.
- 1:53Speaker 3: I'm good. I can bring clearly in here. Okay, I
- 1:55Speaker 3: don't see how y'all don't have dusty y' know, like
- 1:58Speaker 3: me and my friends, we've been in the same place.
- 2:00Speaker 3: They don't have these problems. But I blow my nose up.
- 2:02Speaker 3: You haven't like partic hello dust Yeah, crazy, But it'd
- 2:07Speaker 3: be cold sometimes i'd be hunger. I feel like a
- 2:09Speaker 3: Sims character, you know, if y'all play Sims like they
- 2:12Speaker 3: be cold, tired, hungry, need to take a bath, and
- 2:15Speaker 3: then I gotta talk to people and like smile and
- 2:18Speaker 3: I always take a photo of somebody asks me. So
- 2:21Speaker 3: sometimes I just be like.
- 2:23Speaker 4: I'm tired men. What about them in general? Like you
- 2:29Speaker 4: run across any of.
- 2:30Speaker 3: Those, they'd be scared to talk to me.
- 2:32Speaker 4: They should be if the duty.
- 2:34Speaker 3: Yeah, I make guys nervously.
- 2:38Speaker 5: Someone's told you that, No, I.
- 2:39Speaker 3: Can see it. I see the lips quivering when they
- 2:41Speaker 3: talk to me.
- 2:44Speaker 2: Guy's been trying to hogh.
- 2:45Speaker 3: Let you No, I just be in my presence, like
- 2:47Speaker 3: they don't go outside. So like when they see me
- 2:52Speaker 3: in person, they'd be like, oh shit, she's actually really pretty.
- 2:55Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
- 2:56Speaker 7: How do you feel when people say that to you,
- 2:57Speaker 7: like when they see your person, like, oh my god,
- 2:58Speaker 7: she's so she's really pretty in person.
- 3:01Speaker 3: Because I don't use filters and a lot of stuff
- 3:03Speaker 3: like that. So but I think like I have a
- 3:05Speaker 3: really great makeup artist and glam team.
- 3:08Speaker 5: Give God credit money, loan glow by God, God credit.
- 3:12Speaker 3: Now, shout out to Jesus, but not like I actually
- 3:16Speaker 3: look like my pictures when I show up. So I
- 3:20Speaker 3: think that's surprising for a lot of people. I used
- 3:22Speaker 3: to get offended. I'm not gonna lie, It's be like
- 3:24Speaker 3: what you mean, like you're so pretty impersonal? Was I ugly?
- 3:28Speaker 4: You know?
- 3:29Speaker 3: But no, No, I understand what they're saying is actually
- 3:32Speaker 3: look like my picture?
- 3:33Speaker 7: I posted this on TikTok, Like, how does that make
- 3:35Speaker 7: you feel when people say that? Because I don't know
- 3:38Speaker 7: why I was the top of.
- 3:42Speaker 5: It might be some from there.
- 3:44Speaker 3: I also didn't I didn't have a self concept until
- 3:48Speaker 3: like maybe six or seven years ago.
- 3:52Speaker 5: What does that mean?
- 3:53Speaker 3: I didn't understand how people perceive me? But I didn't.
- 3:56Speaker 3: I didn't know that that was a thing.
- 3:58Speaker 2: How do you think they perceive you.
- 4:03Speaker 3: Like a regal like I don't need any help, Like
- 4:09Speaker 3: I have it all together and.
- 4:11Speaker 4: Because you got money.
- 4:13Speaker 3: It's always been like that, even in high school, you know,
- 4:17Speaker 3: people just kind of just look at me as like
- 4:19Speaker 3: this unicorn.
- 4:21Speaker 4: Probably because you had a level of confidence that they
- 4:23Speaker 4: didn't have.
- 4:24Speaker 3: It wasn't confidence, it was obliviousness. Like I literally just
- 4:28Speaker 3: used to be like did he look a bird?
- 4:31Speaker 4: Yeah? So you basically.
- 4:35Speaker 3: They have a concept of like dark skin, light skin,
- 4:39Speaker 3: like none of that pretty ugly. Yeah. No, I'm lucky
- 4:45Speaker 3: in that regard, where like I never had any confidence issues.
- 4:51Speaker 3: Maybe like some weight fluctuation, like I wish I was skinny,
- 4:55Speaker 3: but then like last time I was here, I was
- 4:57Speaker 3: like super skinny, and I've been that and now I'm
- 4:59Speaker 3: just like and it's not comfortable, Like everything hurts, you
- 5:03Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like sitting in the GYRL when
- 5:05Speaker 3: you don't got no ask.
- 5:07Speaker 5: What you mean because we drag it over here, I
- 5:09Speaker 5: don't know.
- 5:09Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I got a little wagon, yeah, because
- 5:14Speaker 3: it's it's a thing like you know, I know.
- 5:18Speaker 5: You don't got a wagon. I do got a wagon.
- 5:21Speaker 2: I've never looked at, well the revenge, who are getting revenge?
- 5:25Speaker 3: Your money long anybody whoever slept on me, whoever tried me,
- 5:28Speaker 3: whoever tried to stop forward motion. I think the best
- 5:32Speaker 3: revenge is seeing me everywhere. I know I make you itch.
- 5:38Speaker 2: For somebody in particular that you know, people try to
- 5:39Speaker 2: issue you.
- 5:40Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a lot of people. You know, I've been
- 5:42Speaker 3: around for a long time, Like I helped a lot
- 5:45Speaker 3: of people get from you know, with your yeah, just
- 5:51Speaker 3: like showing up, helping come up with like I mean,
- 5:55Speaker 3: I don't just write songs like I come up with
- 5:57Speaker 3: like the theme and the treatment, and you know a
- 6:00Speaker 3: lot of times those ideas get taken and you don't
- 6:02Speaker 3: get compensated for that. I think that just comes with
- 6:06Speaker 3: being a creative. Like I'm an all around creative, so
- 6:09Speaker 3: I can't help but share my point of view. And yeah,
- 6:15Speaker 3: like a lot of people did not think that I
- 6:19Speaker 3: would get to this level. And the reason why I
- 6:23Speaker 3: know that is because they'd be like, man, you really
- 6:25Speaker 3: did it, like you did not give up? Like why
- 6:28Speaker 3: you're saying it like that, Like you do you know
- 6:31Speaker 3: something that I don't know? But also I know a
- 6:35Speaker 3: lot of the people like what they said because the
- 6:38Speaker 3: industry is small, and I just never I never like
- 6:45Speaker 3: I know what you said.
- 6:45Speaker 2: I just feel that this is your way of doing that.
- 6:49Speaker 3: It's just I mean, I don't really care that much,
- 6:51Speaker 3: but like I'd rather see who you actually are rather
- 6:56Speaker 3: than like alert you that I'm onto you, because then
- 6:58Speaker 3: you could change.
- 7:00Speaker 4: Yeah, why did this body of work make you use
- 7:02Speaker 4: that title?
- 7:03Speaker 6: Like, like what about these fourteen songs made you say
- 7:05Speaker 6: I'm gonna name this revenge?
- 7:07Speaker 3: So that was the last song that we did on
- 7:09Speaker 3: the album, One Day Surround Thomas from Rock City, who's
- 7:13Speaker 3: written like so many hits in the last I don't
- 7:16Speaker 3: know five years and then the Dream was there. He
- 7:21Speaker 3: just came. It just came to say hello, and I
- 7:23Speaker 3: looked around the room. I was like, we got tricky.
- 7:26Speaker 3: The dream me to around Thomas and Kukuro, who does
- 7:31Speaker 3: my vocal producer, and I was like, there's no way
- 7:34Speaker 3: I'm about to let you I walk up out of
- 7:35Speaker 3: here and not get a song like this is crazy.
- 7:37Speaker 3: So we was talking about relationships, and you know, Dream,
- 7:40Speaker 3: he liked to argue, so he was talking about just
- 7:43Speaker 3: like the male versus female dynamic and how women are
- 7:47Speaker 3: like bitter sometimes when they don't get their way blah
- 7:49Speaker 3: blah blah, and sorry if I'm messing that up, Dream,
- 7:52Speaker 3: I'm just paraphrasing. So I started talking about just like
- 7:56Speaker 3: I just don't want to spend spend my energy that
- 8:00Speaker 3: I could be putting into accomplishing my goals by engaging
- 8:07Speaker 3: in your whatever it is, like your drama, your A
- 8:11Speaker 3: lot of times people want you to do the emotional
- 8:13Speaker 3: labor for them, like, oh you made me feel like this, Okay,
- 8:19Speaker 3: I apologize, it won't happen again. But I'm also not
- 8:21Speaker 3: gonna sit here and lie to you and tell you
- 8:26Speaker 3: that I'm gonna change anything to make you feel better.
- 8:29Speaker 3: That's your work. You have to do that, and so
- 8:31Speaker 3: I don't want revenge. I'm just gonna continue growing and
- 8:34Speaker 3: developing as a human being, glowing up, and that is
- 8:39Speaker 3: the best revenge or the best get back. You know,
- 8:44Speaker 3: all the petty stuff.
- 8:47Speaker 5: I know you you talked on the Cruise Show a
- 8:49Speaker 5: bit about this, and you revealed there that you and
- 8:51Speaker 5: your uh, I guess it's a strange husband.
- 8:54Speaker 7: I don't know what the title would be. You guys
- 8:56Speaker 7: had separated and it was kind of similar. Like you
- 8:58Speaker 7: you said you just were of dealing with like drama
- 9:01Speaker 7: and people not being happy and things of that nature.
- 9:03Speaker 7: How much of that went into this album? And like
- 9:07Speaker 7: how much of it do we feel when we listen
- 9:08Speaker 7: to these songs?
- 9:11Speaker 3: I think like, as a this was the first time
- 9:14Speaker 3: as an artist that I actually was writing things that
- 9:18Speaker 3: were straight from my brain like a diary. Before it
- 9:22Speaker 3: was like living vicariously or hearing her story from one
- 9:27Speaker 3: of my friends. And it actually it was very scary
- 9:32Speaker 3: because I don't like people in my business and I
- 9:34Speaker 3: also understand that, like if you watch that whole interview,
- 9:39Speaker 3: I was very specifical with what I said. I didn't
- 9:41Speaker 3: say any of the words that were in the headlines.
- 9:45Speaker 3: I did not say that.
- 9:46Speaker 7: I went back and listened earlier because I wanted to
- 9:49Speaker 7: hear your exact words, and I felt like, and correct
- 9:53Speaker 7: me if I'm wrong, but I felt like you were.
- 9:56Speaker 7: You were just a bit exhausted by whatever that situation was.
- 9:59Speaker 3: I'm just exhausted said period of Like anybody or anything
- 10:04Speaker 3: that is trying to pull you into negativity or pull
- 10:10Speaker 3: your focus or bog you down, I just don't want
- 10:13Speaker 3: to do it. Like you could wake up every day
- 10:15Speaker 3: and choose to be happy. Fact, you know what I'm saying.
- 10:18Speaker 3: Every single day is a new day.
- 10:19Speaker 1: But you're left the door open too because you said
- 10:21Speaker 1: you know things can change, he can work on himself
- 10:24Speaker 1: and maybe things could change in the future.
- 10:26Speaker 2: You still feel that way, And have y'all worked on
- 10:29Speaker 2: it at all?
- 10:30Speaker 3: Who is y'all? Okay?
- 10:33Speaker 2: Has he worked on himself? Then I should say I.
- 10:36Speaker 3: Have no idea you you only the only way you
- 10:40Speaker 3: know is results. Like you know what I mean. Every
- 10:43Speaker 3: day you just choose a better action than the day before,
- 10:47Speaker 3: Like you make adjustments.
- 10:49Speaker 4: The best apologies, change behavior exactly.
- 10:52Speaker 3: Yeah, So like the only way I will know that
- 10:55Speaker 3: you won't hurt me is if you don't any way,
- 10:57Speaker 3: I know that you know you are you are gonna do.
- 11:01Speaker 3: What you say is if you do it. Yeah, you know,
- 11:04Speaker 3: actions versus words. And that's for anyone. Like I said,
- 11:09Speaker 3: with my own mama, my granny. The only person who
- 11:14Speaker 3: won't get that kind of attitude for me would be
- 11:18Speaker 3: my child. You know what I'm saying, because my responsibility
- 11:21Speaker 3: to help him grow into a wonderful human, to operate
- 11:26Speaker 3: at his highest level on this planet. Everybody else that's
- 11:30Speaker 3: on you and eventually even him one day, I'm after
- 11:32Speaker 3: loved right.
- 11:33Speaker 4: Do his thing and ain't gonna be too far. You
- 11:39Speaker 4: got about fourteen years.
- 11:40Speaker 3: Yeah, now his birthdays. We have our birthdays on the
- 11:42Speaker 3: same day actually, so next.
- 11:43Speaker 6: Week, when they get about sixteen, that's when they start
- 11:47Speaker 6: to become their.
- 11:47Speaker 4: Own little persons.
- 11:49Speaker 3: He already is now. Yeah, he'd be like, no, okay,
- 11:54Speaker 3: whatever you say.
- 11:55Speaker 6: You know you in the You're in the album with
- 11:56Speaker 6: a song called Ruined Me. Do you feel like a
- 12:00Speaker 6: person can really ruin you?
- 12:04Speaker 3: It depends on like your interpretation of the record. I
- 12:07Speaker 3: think that when I say it, I'm saying that most guys,
- 12:11Speaker 3: and like I'm not an expert. I'm not saying all men,
- 12:14Speaker 3: but it's always a man. They want a dummy. They
- 12:21Speaker 3: want a dummy. They want someone who will not question them,
- 12:26Speaker 3: will not I think that's what they mean by submissive.
- 12:30Speaker 3: You want to be able to continue moving through life, undeveloped,
- 12:36Speaker 3: unmotivated on whatever. You don't want someone to challenge you
- 12:41Speaker 3: and push you, and so a lot of times guys
- 12:44Speaker 3: won't change. They'll just go find someone who will accept
- 12:47Speaker 3: their negative or poor choices.
- 12:50Speaker 6: I think we gotta put a thumb in front of
- 12:53Speaker 6: men and guys, some men, some guys.
- 12:55Speaker 3: Well, no, I said, it's not all men, but it's
- 12:57Speaker 3: always a man, you know. I just think that again
- 13:04Speaker 3: when I say you ruined me, I'm wise now. I
- 13:07Speaker 3: do not believe you when you say, oh, I love
- 13:11Speaker 3: you so much, but your actions are doing something else.
- 13:14Speaker 3: So you're ruined me for everybody else, because now I'm
- 13:16Speaker 3: watching you. Know what I'm saying. It's no more like
- 13:18Speaker 3: blind falling in love loving your dirty draws like m M.
- 13:23Speaker 3: I love myself and you can support that, and I
- 13:28Speaker 3: will allow myself to be in your space and you
- 13:32Speaker 3: can experience me loving myself.
- 13:34Speaker 5: Like you got to meet me where I'm at, Yeah, it's.
- 13:36Speaker 3: My job to love me. Ain't my job to give
- 13:40Speaker 3: that to you? And by me loving me, it will
- 13:44Speaker 3: pour over onto you and you will feel loved.
- 13:46Speaker 4: That's a fact, you.
- 13:46Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. That's what I mean. It's not
- 13:49Speaker 3: about to be. No, I'm dropping everything every time I'm cooking,
- 13:52Speaker 3: on cleaning. Mm hmm.
- 13:55Speaker 5: Does that make it?
- 13:56Speaker 7: I mean, this is I was gonna say, Does that
- 13:57Speaker 7: make it tough for you when you think about trying
- 13:59Speaker 7: to move forward and possibly dating?
- 14:00Speaker 5: But this is all new?
- 14:01Speaker 7: Like are you even in that spaceship where you're even
- 14:04Speaker 7: exploring other men?
- 14:08Speaker 5: I'm tired everybody.
- 14:11Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 14:12Speaker 7: No, Well you said you've always said you didn't like
- 14:14Speaker 7: dating before your husband, So if.
- 14:17Speaker 3: I don't really like people right now, I will say
- 14:27Speaker 3: that I'm just really I'm understanding like the game, you
- 14:32Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Like there's different games being played,
- 14:35Speaker 3: so like there's the relationship game, the marriage game, the
- 14:39Speaker 3: career game, the frequency game, like and I'm just focused
- 14:45Speaker 3: on like getting my foundation right and getting everything together
- 14:49Speaker 3: so that any game I decided to go play, I'm straight.
- 14:53Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I think that as women,
- 14:56Speaker 3: sometimes we get distracted by relationships and we start put
- 15:00Speaker 3: and everything into it. So I'm not saying no.
- 15:04Speaker 2: Money log is fed the Yeah, I feel it, but my.
- 15:08Speaker 3: Life is great even with the things that are challenging.
- 15:13Speaker 3: It's nothing to like be mad or like bitter. But
- 15:16Speaker 3: you just figured out it's just a puzzle to solve.
- 15:19Speaker 5: Uh.
- 15:19Speaker 3: And so anybody who's coming in making me feel unsure
- 15:23Speaker 3: about anything or disturbing my peace, you gotta go. You
- 15:28Speaker 3: gotta go down to a mosquito or fly like gods
- 15:32Speaker 3: just don't have time.
- 15:34Speaker 4: How do you know.
- 15:37Speaker 3: Finish anything anything?
- 15:44Speaker 6: No, I was just gonna say, you know, how do
- 15:45Speaker 6: you know that you're not becoming what you hate?
- 15:48Speaker 4: Meaning like I don't hate anything.
- 15:50Speaker 6: I'm saying, if you're upset about something or relationship or
- 15:54Speaker 6: heard about something that happened in the relationship, how do
- 15:56Speaker 6: you know you're not projecting that onto other people.
- 16:00Speaker 3: I think I've reached a level of self awareness where
- 16:03Speaker 3: I'm always asking questions and I'm still in a very
- 16:06Speaker 3: much in like a discovery exploration childlike like maybe there's
- 16:12Speaker 3: something here that I don't understand. What is this? What
- 16:14Speaker 3: you know? And I'm always inquiring for like even when
- 16:17Speaker 3: I get pissed, like it hapen last night. Somebody did
- 16:20Speaker 3: somebody like. But you know, it's like I'll be like,
- 16:22Speaker 3: are you okay? You need something? You're thirsty? Who you'
- 16:26Speaker 3: here with? Like I'll be trying to figure out because
- 16:29Speaker 3: you got to be out your mind. You're not talking
- 16:30Speaker 3: to me to push you off. But I was a
- 16:33Speaker 3: girl like walk pass and was like she wasn't looking
- 16:37Speaker 3: at anyone, and she just was like, oh, have a
- 16:40Speaker 3: good night. Meanwhile, I'm trying to get a table. We
- 16:43Speaker 3: went to the last lap okay on some restaurant. You know,
- 16:48Speaker 3: they got like three tables in there. I'm trying to eat.
- 16:51Speaker 3: I'm hungry, I'm cold, I'm tired. Uh she said. She
- 16:58Speaker 3: said it out in the no but when she kept
- 17:02Speaker 3: walking past, she and you know I can feel energy,
- 17:08Speaker 3: she said, I guess not. But it was like directed
- 17:11Speaker 3: at me.
- 17:11Speaker 5: Now you ain't say nothing back to it.
- 17:13Speaker 3: But I'm on my phone. I'm trying to I'm like,
- 17:14Speaker 3: maybe I could get a burger, like y'all take it too.
- 17:16Speaker 3: I'm hungry. And I turned around and I looked at
- 17:20Speaker 3: my friend and he started laughing. He was like, your friend,
- 17:23Speaker 3: don't do it. I was like, she can't be talking
- 17:25Speaker 3: to me. I know she's not talking to me. I
- 17:26Speaker 3: don't like that kind of stuff because to me, that
- 17:28Speaker 3: says that you think you could beat me up, You
- 17:37Speaker 3: think you could beat me up, you.
- 17:41Speaker 5: Bully me. I don't like that.
- 17:44Speaker 3: Did you No, she she was walking on us, so
- 17:47Speaker 3: she can't be talking to me. I know she not.
- 17:49Speaker 3: And they just kept walking like I think they was like, yeah,
- 17:52Speaker 3: don't do that because I'm very nice, I'm quiet, Like
- 17:55Speaker 3: you know, people have like a perception of me, I
- 17:58Speaker 3: will beat you up, Like, don't do that.
- 18:00Speaker 6: I said that about somebody last week, Like this person
- 18:02Speaker 6: got to show me, what do you mean the way
- 18:05Speaker 6: this person talking? They got to show me. They got
- 18:07Speaker 6: to show the way you're talking. They got to show
- 18:10Speaker 6: me they can beat me up.
- 18:11Speaker 1: But if the lady said have a good night, and
- 18:12Speaker 1: she thought you heard and you said nothing, she probably
- 18:14Speaker 1: was like she probably felt offend.
- 18:16Speaker 3: She wasn't looking at That's that's like me being like,
- 18:19Speaker 3: good morning, who am I talking to?
- 18:22Speaker 4: Do you know how?
- 18:26Speaker 3: It wasn't that many people, so it was like it
- 18:27Speaker 3: was a section you No, there was other people. She's
- 18:32Speaker 3: walking past and she said have a good night to
- 18:34Speaker 3: the air, like I mean honest to hear what you're saying.
- 18:39Speaker 6: But she's probably not from here, because that's that can
- 18:41Speaker 6: be a coaching shock when you're not from New York,
- 18:43Speaker 6: because you know, I'm from the South. So I greet
- 18:44Speaker 6: people and I say things like can't see you later,
- 18:47Speaker 6: and nobody will respond back. But that's just a New
- 18:48Speaker 6: York thing, like New York is just rude.
- 18:51Speaker 3: No, I would have said something if I thought she
- 18:52Speaker 3: was talking to me. That's the other thing. I'm so nice,
- 18:54Speaker 3: Like I always take the photo, I always speak, I always,
- 18:57Speaker 3: you know, always, because I understand, yeah, exactly.
- 19:09Speaker 2: A fight because you say you can still fight.
- 19:11Speaker 3: Fight no more. I'm too rich for that now, you
- 19:14Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But I never lost one actually
- 19:16Speaker 3: know my first fight I lost.
- 19:17Speaker 5: But I'll be.
- 19:22Speaker 3: I do because I feel it's like you don't want
- 19:25Speaker 3: to fight. You don't want to fight someone who is afraid,
- 19:29Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, because you don't know what
- 19:30Speaker 3: they're gonna do. I'm always cared to get hit, so
- 19:33Speaker 3: I'm gonna make sure you can't hit me. Never lost,
- 19:37Speaker 3: But don't be not fighting anyone. Don't be taking that
- 19:41Speaker 3: as a challenge because you're gonna go to jail. I'm
- 19:45Speaker 3: gonna call those people.
- 19:46Speaker 4: You have a you have a song called thirties. How
- 19:50Speaker 4: much have you learned from your thirties?
- 19:53Speaker 3: Still? Yeah, I I have learned over the last ten
- 19:58Speaker 3: years because I started my self reflection and like internal
- 20:03Speaker 3: journey at twenty six. Over the last ten I have
- 20:10Speaker 3: learned that everybody's on their own individual course and that
- 20:15Speaker 3: you cannot interfere with free will. So no matter how
- 20:18Speaker 3: much I might want something for you, who am I
- 20:21Speaker 3: to take that from you, that lesson or that that
- 20:27Speaker 3: opportunity to grow and learn Because you don't have to
- 20:31Speaker 3: learn through you could choose to learn through joy. You
- 20:33Speaker 3: don't have to learn through drama and trauma. But most
- 20:36Speaker 3: of the time, people are not motivated to change anything
- 20:40Speaker 3: until stuff gets very uncomfortable. And so I've learned to
- 20:45Speaker 3: just like relax and be like, yeah, yeah, we got
- 20:50Speaker 3: all ten fingers and toes were breathing, you know what
- 20:53Speaker 3: I'm saying, Gude, Yeah, gratitude, but also just like a
- 20:57Speaker 3: deep understanding and like, uh, lack of like I'm not
- 21:01Speaker 3: afraid of anything anymore, you know, not afford to lose people.
- 21:06Speaker 3: I understand, like it's probably gonna hurt, yeah, but go
- 21:09Speaker 3: over it.
- 21:10Speaker 4: On thirties.
- 21:10Speaker 6: It sounds like you're singing about the fear of being alone. Yeah,
- 21:14Speaker 6: so that's a fear, right.
- 21:18Speaker 5: No, not for me.
- 21:20Speaker 3: It's like I don't want that, Okay, I don't want
- 21:22Speaker 3: to be alone, like with no companionship. That doesn't necessarily
- 21:28Speaker 3: mean relationship. That could just mean, like, you know, if
- 21:32Speaker 3: I feel like I look cute, sometimes I might want
- 21:34Speaker 3: to talk to somebody. You're like, tell me I'm pretty.
- 21:37Speaker 3: Like what I'm saying?
- 21:38Speaker 5: Yeap?
- 21:38Speaker 2: What makes so cold?
- 21:39Speaker 4: Because do you feel like you got married too young?
- 21:42Speaker 3: No? Okay, I got married at twenty five.
- 21:46Speaker 7: Some people would say that was young, that that was
- 21:49Speaker 7: pretty young, But no, I don't feel like that got you.
- 21:51Speaker 5: Do you think because you spent do you ever look back?
- 21:53Speaker 7: Because you spent from twenty five to now thirty five
- 21:56Speaker 7: married and you guys are figuring out whatever it's gonna
- 21:58Speaker 7: happen next, next or not, that you spent so much
- 22:02Speaker 7: of your time being married that it's like figuring out
- 22:05Speaker 7: this new world by yourself is like it's just like
- 22:08Speaker 7: a space. It's going to be so new that it's
- 22:09Speaker 7: like something that maybe you are not ready to jump
- 22:12Speaker 7: into or you don't know how to jump into it,
- 22:14Speaker 7: like you don't know how to navigate it, because it's
- 22:16Speaker 7: like a new.
- 22:17Speaker 5: Like you've never been, like you've always.
- 22:19Speaker 4: Been in a marriage.
- 22:24Speaker 7: Yeah, we really it's really hard to talk about because
- 22:26Speaker 7: I don't really know like what, like y'all are separated because.
- 22:30Speaker 5: Divorce didn't come out your mom.
- 22:31Speaker 3: You know one thing I'll say about this, and I
- 22:34Speaker 3: know a lot of people are gonna want to ask me.
- 22:35Speaker 3: They're going to want to know, But I know that
- 22:37Speaker 3: my words are very powerful, and I have what I say.
- 22:40Speaker 3: I just want to be careful about what I say
- 22:42Speaker 3: because I don't want to draw things to me.
- 22:43Speaker 5: I love that for you.
- 22:44Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. When I say somebody's name,
- 22:47Speaker 3: they appear, so I don't want to. I mean, I
- 22:50Speaker 3: got you.
- 22:53Speaker 2: I was asking what turns you so cold?
- 22:55Speaker 1: Because it was like, now you're like, I don't care
- 22:57Speaker 1: if somebody's in my life, I'm gonna turn what what
- 22:59Speaker 1: made you cold?
- 23:01Speaker 3: I'm not cold? Just some focus on me, that's it.
- 23:05Speaker 3: I think have decentered men, of decentered relationships and what
- 23:10Speaker 3: the world teaches you your role is as a woman
- 23:15Speaker 3: I'm just here to have fun, to experience the best
- 23:20Speaker 3: that life has to offer, and I will share it
- 23:23Speaker 3: with who I want to, not because I feel like
- 23:26Speaker 3: I need to be with no, you know what I'm saying?
- 23:31Speaker 3: Also too, like what guy can handle this? You know?
- 23:38Speaker 5: Was that a part of it? Because he was your husband?
- 23:40Speaker 7: You guys have done so much together industry wise in this,
- 23:44Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, it seems like it every time it
- 23:46Speaker 7: looks yeah, but also to how you used to talk
- 23:48Speaker 7: about him, like I know you talked about like y'all
- 23:51Speaker 7: working on the label together, and like he helped produce
- 23:54Speaker 7: some of your songs, correct, right, So it just it
- 23:56Speaker 7: seemed like sometimes.
- 23:57Speaker 3: As a wife, you just want to say things to
- 24:00Speaker 3: help encourage things to go in a certain direction. Firm
- 24:05Speaker 3: and uh, what's the word motivate? Mm hmm, gently, pride,
- 24:15Speaker 3: But that doesn't always mean that it's connecting.
- 24:19Speaker 5: Wow in between the lines here, So.
- 24:22Speaker 6: Have any of those these recent interviews prided him to
- 24:26Speaker 6: go start maybe doing the work on himself that he.
- 24:28Speaker 4: Needs to do. See, I haven't spoken.
- 24:33Speaker 6: And why you think a man can't handle you the
- 24:35Speaker 6: same way you're talking about you know, you don't want
- 24:36Speaker 6: to talk.
- 24:37Speaker 7: About all of the stuff that comes with being money
- 24:41Speaker 7: long as your guys.
- 24:42Speaker 6: There's guys you unless you don't want an industry guy,
- 24:45Speaker 6: because gus guys that know exactly what you're dealing with.
- 24:48Speaker 3: As a woman, I understand why industry men behave the
- 24:51Speaker 3: way they behave. I would never date one so easy.
- 24:57Speaker 3: Do you have whatever you want, Get whatever you want,
- 24:59Speaker 3: sleep with whatever you want. You're not about to play
- 25:01Speaker 3: in my face?
- 25:02Speaker 1: What do you think changed because it's been you said
- 25:04Speaker 1: since twenty four you think the fact that you made it.
- 25:07Speaker 1: It's almost like I love you when you're trying to
- 25:09Speaker 1: make it, but now when you make it.
- 25:10Speaker 2: Things change, roles change.
- 25:12Speaker 3: No, I'm only in my head. I only know what
- 25:16Speaker 3: I'm thinking. I'm not trying to be criptic. This is
- 25:18Speaker 3: just really how I think, Like I have no idea
- 25:22Speaker 3: when I'm not trying to figure it out.
- 25:24Speaker 6: Are you picking up that pen while you're going through
- 25:26Speaker 6: all of this, I'm always writing, okay, because some fire
- 25:30Speaker 6: music can come from this. My God, I'm sorry that
- 25:32Speaker 6: you're going through whatever you're going through with Lord, have mercy.
- 25:35Speaker 6: I know you're making some fire records.
- 25:37Speaker 3: I haven't been in the studio, but I'll probably again,
- 25:41Speaker 3: I get what I say, so I want to make
- 25:44Speaker 3: sure I'm saying things that I want to appear versus gotcha.
- 25:49Speaker 3: You know, I'm so mad, I'm not. I wake up
- 25:52Speaker 3: every day so happy, like I've surrounded myself with the
- 25:55Speaker 3: most wonderful, warm, funny like me and my friend group
- 25:59Speaker 3: are hilarious.
- 26:01Speaker 5: That's needed.
- 26:01Speaker 3: Yeah, so like it's just so fun like you know,
- 26:05Speaker 3: we have our own little inside jokes. I laughed through
- 26:08Speaker 3: the pain, like you know what I'm saying. Like I'll
- 26:10Speaker 3: pick up something like a pickle, and like everything reminds
- 26:15Speaker 3: me of you know, just like so funny. Sometimes it's
- 26:24Speaker 3: a big pickle.
- 26:27Speaker 4: Remind me of you know it?
- 26:31Speaker 3: Hey, yo, what size is the story about life?
- 26:37Speaker 6: When you talk about your words and your pin being powerful,
- 26:39Speaker 6: do you ever feel like some of your songs might
- 26:41Speaker 6: be too open and too honest, Like you might be
- 26:44Speaker 6: putting too much out there?
- 26:48Speaker 5: You know.
- 26:48Speaker 3: It's this weird thing that I have this effect on
- 26:51Speaker 3: people where even in real life, I'm only telling you
- 26:55Speaker 3: what I want you to know. There's so much. But
- 26:58Speaker 3: a lot of times people really think that they know me,
- 27:00Speaker 3: like they feel like, oh that's my first my homegirl
- 27:02Speaker 3: is my friend I'll be like I talked to this
- 27:05Speaker 3: one time, Like what, that's crazy? You don't know me
- 27:08Speaker 3: like that? Like if I actually like you, I talk
- 27:12Speaker 3: to you, I open up. But if I don't know you,
- 27:15Speaker 3: or if I don't feel safe around you, I know
- 27:19Speaker 3: how to make people feel welcome and warm and cared about.
- 27:24Speaker 3: And I think sometimes people mistake that for like actual
- 27:27Speaker 3: care and concern speak.
- 27:30Speaker 4: To how important feelings safe around people is.
- 27:32Speaker 6: Because I love when people use that term, because that's
- 27:35Speaker 6: truly what it is. If you can feel safe around people,
- 27:37Speaker 6: you can.
- 27:38Speaker 3: Be yourself, Yeah, to be the I always encourage people
- 27:42Speaker 3: to like be the you that you are when you're
- 27:43Speaker 3: with your family and with you, when you're with your
- 27:45Speaker 3: best friends, or when you're by yourself. Like everybody has
- 27:50Speaker 3: star quality, every person, but it's when you feel safe
- 27:55Speaker 3: that that comes out. And I think a lot of
- 27:58Speaker 3: us spend time in spaces that we don't feel safe
- 28:02Speaker 3: and that we're uncomfortable in, that we don't want to
- 28:04Speaker 3: be in, that we feel exposed, we're not confident enough
- 28:09Speaker 3: to be vulnerable. I think that's part of what makes
- 28:13Speaker 3: a great artist and a great performer, great entertainer actor.
- 28:17Speaker 3: They're not afraid to be naked in front of people,
- 28:23Speaker 3: and they're not afraid to bear their soul in front
- 28:25Speaker 3: of the world. That is a very hard thing to do.
- 28:30Speaker 3: They had me singing in the street buskting yesterday on
- 28:32Speaker 3: the subway. Oh my god, it was so cringey.
- 28:36Speaker 5: On a subway, like singing.
- 28:40Speaker 3: No, it was very dusty down there, just you know,
- 28:43Speaker 3: getting content, content and skin these days. So I got
- 28:46Speaker 3: on the train and I was asking people like, uh,
- 28:49Speaker 3: how did you know your person was made for you?
- 28:52Speaker 3: Giving answers like what makes you feel like a baddie?
- 28:55Speaker 3: Just like questions from the song my album and the
- 28:58Speaker 3: other songs on my album. Yeah. So then they had
- 29:02Speaker 3: me singing, like I started singing to this older couple
- 29:05Speaker 3: they've been together for like forty seven years. But it
- 29:08Speaker 3: was so cringey, girl.
- 29:10Speaker 5: Oh it wasn't all. It wasn't all. I mean New
- 29:12Speaker 5: York subways are a lot.
- 29:14Speaker 3: No, but for me, it was like like the anxiety
- 29:16Speaker 3: I felt in my body. I thought somebody was gonna
- 29:18Speaker 3: hit me in the head and be like shut security. No,
- 29:22Speaker 3: not yesterday. Oh wait, yeah no, he was there, Yeah,
- 29:25Speaker 3: he was there. Yeah, but still this is New York. Yeah, yeah,
- 29:29Speaker 3: it'd be like, shut up. Yeah, that's what I thought
- 29:32Speaker 3: was gonna happen, but it didn't.
- 29:33Speaker 7: But that's because you like really control your spaces. I
- 29:36Speaker 7: mean in the subway. It's like people from everywhere now.
- 29:38Speaker 3: But once I started singing, people was like, is that
- 29:41Speaker 3: really her? That sounded like yeah. I was cringing though
- 29:45Speaker 3: the whole time.
- 29:46Speaker 4: Wow, superpowers? What are your superpowers?
- 29:51Speaker 3: My superpower is detachment, like it really is now. In
- 29:56Speaker 3: reference to the song, what I'm talking about is like
- 30:00Speaker 3: I get what I say, and every aspect of my life,
- 30:03Speaker 3: I'm super successful. Why not here in this you knowship? Yeah?
- 30:10Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 30:11Speaker 3: Why can this not? And that doesn't just mean romantically,
- 30:15Speaker 3: it could be family, you know, but why doesn't my
- 30:21Speaker 3: power work in this area? I really want this? Wow?
- 30:26Speaker 7: So I think so many people in relationships can relate
- 30:28Speaker 7: to that. A lot of people because you date potential
- 30:32Speaker 7: sometimes and you see the potential before the other person does,
- 30:35Speaker 7: and you're like, come.
- 30:35Speaker 3: On, see, I don't I can't relate to that. I
- 30:38Speaker 3: don't know what that means. If I like you, I
- 30:39Speaker 3: like you, all that other stuff don't matter.
- 30:42Speaker 7: Whoa I mean, I think it would be the same
- 30:44Speaker 7: reason why you said that you were speaking things because
- 30:46Speaker 7: you wanted him to kind of like do it or
- 30:50Speaker 7: like catch on or whatever you were just saying earlier.
- 30:52Speaker 7: That's kind of what I'm talking about.
- 30:53Speaker 6: That's an interesting perspective. I never thought about it. People
- 30:55Speaker 6: talk about potential. But if I like you, I like you.
- 30:58Speaker 6: I'm not waiting for you to grow to be somebody else.
- 31:00Speaker 6: I like you you are.
- 31:02Speaker 3: I like you the person that I'm not motivated by
- 31:05Speaker 3: what you do because that could change, Like you could
- 31:08Speaker 3: quit your job and decide you want to be a chef.
- 31:10Speaker 7: Not even like a job though, but like it could
- 31:12Speaker 7: be like how how they talk to you or how
- 31:14Speaker 7: they I don't know.
- 31:16Speaker 3: Like why do you have potential?
- 31:18Speaker 2: Somebody like.
- 31:20Speaker 7: You can like somebody but no, not even that, but
- 31:23Speaker 7: you can like somebody and then get to know them
- 31:25Speaker 7: and you're like, you know what, I love that you
- 31:27Speaker 7: do this, but I don't necessarily like that you respond
- 31:30Speaker 7: this way about certain stuff.
- 31:31Speaker 5: And then you guys have to figure that out and
- 31:33Speaker 5: that take another girl.
- 31:35Speaker 4: That's normally how.
- 31:36Speaker 5: I that's literally what you said earlier.
- 31:39Speaker 4: What you do?
- 31:40Speaker 5: Yeh know?
- 31:41Speaker 3: How do you have potential? In communication? There's no potential?
- 31:45Speaker 5: Don't be putting my business out there like that.
- 31:47Speaker 3: Yeah, no, girl, no potential. You don't like how somebody
- 31:49Speaker 3: talk get a new one.
- 31:51Speaker 5: That's what I'm single.
- 31:54Speaker 7: I mean, I know for me myself, Like because I
- 31:57Speaker 7: started young with that person that I'm talking about. Once
- 32:00Speaker 7: I grew to a certain point, there were certain things
- 32:02Speaker 7: that I was just.
- 32:02Speaker 3: Like, I don't know if I like the Stockholm syndrome.
- 32:05Speaker 5: Oh wow, okay is it that? Would that be that?
- 32:09Speaker 2: Okay?
- 32:10Speaker 5: Back to you?
- 32:10Speaker 4: Okay, No, No, I love when people.
- 32:15Speaker 5: I never thought about it as Stockholm syndrome.
- 32:18Speaker 3: You're just comfortable there, I mean, yeah, your capture chapter
- 32:26Speaker 3: is crazy.
- 32:28Speaker 5: Man.
- 32:30Speaker 3: You know, this is probably the most difficult thing about
- 32:32Speaker 3: me being in a long term relationship is that I see, yeah,
- 32:36Speaker 3: I could see you know what I'm saying. You can't like,
- 32:40Speaker 3: you know, there's a difference between marriage and boyfriend and girlfriend.
- 32:42Speaker 5: Yeah, we can't just walk away when you guys.
- 32:46Speaker 7: So outside of that being a difference, like when you
- 32:47Speaker 7: guys went from boyfriend and girlfriend to marriage, what was
- 32:50Speaker 7: one of the biggest differences for y'all.
- 32:53Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't have an answer for that,
- 32:56Speaker 3: because once I like you, that's it. Oh, ma'am jumping
- 33:00Speaker 3: in until you be like cool and then I detached
- 33:04Speaker 3: that you guys mean my superpower poof you never existed.
- 33:07Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 33:09Speaker 3: You don't know.
- 33:11Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 33:14Speaker 6: When you're writing stuff like every night I've been crying,
- 33:16Speaker 6: I can't fall asleep.
- 33:17Speaker 4: Land in the bed and my diamond. I still wear
- 33:19Speaker 4: my ring?
- 33:20Speaker 3: Are you?
- 33:22Speaker 5: Are you still wearing the ring? Not today but in
- 33:25Speaker 5: this song?
- 33:26Speaker 7: Okay, but you said we were reading your diary, so
- 33:28Speaker 7: we take you at your word.
- 33:31Speaker 5: No, that had nothing to do with y'all.
- 33:34Speaker 6: All right, some things, Remember, words are powerful. You're telling
- 33:37Speaker 6: us you don't let that man no more.
- 33:40Speaker 4: I don't want to be with that man.
- 33:41Speaker 3: No. When you say love, what do you mean by love?
- 33:49Speaker 3: Romantic love?
- 33:50Speaker 5: Or don't look at me girl?
- 33:53Speaker 6: I can't help you with this parenting love spinning to
- 33:58Speaker 6: death to us part love. I want to still be
- 34:01Speaker 6: with you and have a family. Let's figure life out,
- 34:03Speaker 6: do better or worse love?
- 34:05Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
- 34:08Speaker 2: I don't know, but you could fall out of love.
- 34:13Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm very I'm detached from.
- 34:17Speaker 4: Don't you're not You're so tough, you are I'm not.
- 34:22Speaker 3: Didn't we talk about this last time, we didn't. We
- 34:26Speaker 3: didn't talk about me being on the spectrum.
- 34:30Speaker 4: Yes, yes we did.
- 34:32Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, got you. So No, when I say I detached,
- 34:38Speaker 3: I really do. Seriously, Yeah, you are not out of sight,
- 34:45Speaker 3: out of mind.
- 34:47Speaker 5: There's no great area with you.
- 34:50Speaker 6: Is there a reattachment that happens? I mean, I don't
- 34:52Speaker 6: know how that works when you're on the spectrum, I
- 34:54Speaker 6: don't know.
- 34:55Speaker 3: I think with anyone there's a safety and trust issue.
- 34:58Speaker 4: What's that violated?
- 34:59Speaker 3: As I read somewhere, it takes two years to regain
- 35:04Speaker 3: trust once you once it's broken. So just consistent behavior,
- 35:09Speaker 3: which we talked about.
- 35:10Speaker 2: In the beginning, take way longer than that, depend.
- 35:12Speaker 3: On depending on what it is. But if I if I,
- 35:17Speaker 3: if I consistently come up to your house and every
- 35:22Speaker 3: time I come your dog bites me, put the dog up,
- 35:27Speaker 3: or I'm going to assume that you are okay with
- 35:29Speaker 3: that and you don't feel the need to keep me safe,
- 35:32Speaker 3: so I'm not going to come back over here.
- 35:34Speaker 4: He was putting the dog on you.
- 35:39Speaker 3: That was an analogy the headline. By the way, you
- 35:47Speaker 3: know what, I'm would just stay off the internet once
- 35:49Speaker 3: this comes up.
- 35:51Speaker 7: On the find side of things, you do have Glorilla
- 35:53Speaker 7: on the album, but the only feature?
- 35:56Speaker 5: Why is she the only feature?
- 35:58Speaker 3: First of all, I feel like I don't really make
- 35:59Speaker 3: songs that require that. Yeah, And like I really want
- 36:03Speaker 3: to stress the fact that like this project was.
- 36:06Speaker 5: A and R.
- 36:06Speaker 3: It wasn't like just there in the studio freestyle and
- 36:10Speaker 3: making records like I wanted to have certain tones, like
- 36:14Speaker 3: what don't I have here? Does this song need drums?
- 36:17Speaker 3: Does it not? I don't know, you know, so we
- 36:20Speaker 3: really thought about like who could be on my records,
- 36:23Speaker 3: and it's not I don't believe in that. Just throwing
- 36:26Speaker 3: an artist on a song just because they got fifty
- 36:29Speaker 3: million monthly listeners, Like you know what I'm saying doesn't
- 36:32Speaker 3: make sense. I actually really like Glow. She's funny, super talented,
- 36:37Speaker 3: and she's singing on there. So when I first heard it,
- 36:40Speaker 3: I was like, oh, sing Rella, I love this for me? Yeah,
- 36:45Speaker 3: I don't. I don't make songs that If anything, it
- 36:49Speaker 3: would be like a duet male female. But who would
- 36:52Speaker 3: that be? There's not very many active R and B men.
- 36:58Speaker 3: Who is there already? You have a song? Was working
- 37:03Speaker 3: on getting one with Chris. Maybe I just came off
- 37:05Speaker 3: tour with him, fun, super fun.
- 37:10Speaker 4: What did you learn on the eleven eleven tour?
- 37:12Speaker 3: I learned how to push my energy all the way
- 37:16Speaker 3: to the top and to connect with everybody. It was
- 37:21Speaker 3: my first tour, so like looking back at the footage
- 37:25Speaker 3: even now, I'm just like, while I can see like
- 37:28Speaker 3: the the greenness, but when I was in it, it's
- 37:34Speaker 3: just like it was I gotta, I gotta get up here,
- 37:37Speaker 3: like I gotta do it. There was only one night
- 37:40Speaker 3: where it wasn't that great, and that's just because like
- 37:43Speaker 3: the first night in Atlanta, they was like, girl.
- 37:45Speaker 5: Who was you?
- 37:46Speaker 3: We came here to see Christopher?
- 37:47Speaker 5: We do that? I want you?
- 37:50Speaker 3: Yeah, And all the songs and all I mean they
- 37:53Speaker 3: always in the last fifteen minutes of my set, the
- 37:57Speaker 3: arena light up. Everybody's singing as ever, gonna get old.
- 38:02Speaker 3: But like all the songs in the middle that maybe
- 38:05Speaker 3: some people knowing, some people don't. That's where the work is.
- 38:08Speaker 3: It's like for me connecting with them and showing them
- 38:12Speaker 3: who I am, talking to them, showing my personality things
- 38:17Speaker 3: like that. So it was fun. I learned a lot.
- 38:20Speaker 2: Well, what song you want to hear down? Let's get
- 38:22Speaker 2: into a juvene off the album.
- 38:24Speaker 3: One song off the album, we could play Bessie. I
- 38:30Speaker 3: love Yeah, Bessie. Is this a song about? First of all,
- 38:34Speaker 3: this is the first song that I took ever that
- 38:37Speaker 3: I did not write. I tweaked a few things to
- 38:40Speaker 3: make it fit me, but up tempos is not really
- 38:42Speaker 3: my thing. I do ballads and like introspective type stuff.
- 38:47Speaker 3: So when to Ron played it for me, I was
- 38:48Speaker 3: like that, whatever that is, I need that, please, And
- 38:53Speaker 3: then I just changed it because there's a lot of
- 38:55Speaker 3: Bestie songs. I just changed the spelling because that's how
- 38:58Speaker 3: we actually say it on a song that's my Bessie. Yeah,
- 39:02Speaker 3: it's fun, fun record.
- 39:03Speaker 4: You know you don't want to ask you. You made
- 39:05Speaker 4: me think about it.
- 39:05Speaker 6: When you talk about performing on stage, what do you
- 39:07Speaker 6: enjoy more because you've made.
- 39:08Speaker 4: Money doing both being an artist or a writer.
- 39:13Speaker 3: I enjoy being able to say what I want to
- 39:15Speaker 3: say when I want to say it. And I also
- 39:19Speaker 3: really did not have fun as a songwriter just because
- 39:22Speaker 3: of the way that songwriters get treated. So I prefer
- 39:26Speaker 3: to like have my own autonomy.
- 39:31Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, money long money joining us.
- 39:33Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.
- 39:35Speaker 6: Let's get the next project don't get me wrong. Venge
- 39:39Speaker 6: is dope, dusty, Uh, I just am because I came
- 39:45Speaker 6: up on the you know, Marriya j Blige, what's the
- 39:47Speaker 6: four one one my life?
- 39:48Speaker 3: Era?
- 39:49Speaker 6: Can't act like that. That heartbreak music wasn't fantastic. Not
- 39:52Speaker 6: saying you're going through heartbreak. Yeah, I'm saying you're going
- 39:56Speaker 6: through a lot of different emotions. I can't wait to
- 39:57Speaker 6: hear that express through music.
- 40:00Speaker 7: Why do you think that I'm not going through a
- 40:03Speaker 7: bunch of emotions. It feels like it a bit. But
- 40:06Speaker 7: we I mean, you know yourself better than we do.
- 40:08Speaker 7: But yeah, I just can't imagine being in that space.
- 40:10Speaker 7: You know everything and now it's out there in the
- 40:12Speaker 7: public and you gotta do press and you gotta you know,
- 40:15Speaker 7: relive and retalk and all that stuff.
- 40:17Speaker 5: So, you know, if.
- 40:18Speaker 3: Anything is a little bit of like frustration, why y'all
- 40:22Speaker 3: keep bringing this? Why you keep reminding me? Because I
- 40:26Speaker 3: forgot the music that's all not just here like even
- 40:31Speaker 3: in life. Yeah, people be like, I'm so sorry, I'm like,
- 40:33Speaker 3: for what.
- 40:35Speaker 4: Because of the interviews and the music, that's really what
- 40:37Speaker 4: it is.
- 40:38Speaker 6: You write a song called Ruined Me, and you tell
- 40:39Speaker 6: us that you want to sleep with your ring on
- 40:41Speaker 6: every night.
- 40:41Speaker 4: It's like, oh that.
- 40:47Speaker 2: Money, thank you for joining us. It's the Breakfast Club,
- 40:50Speaker 2: Good morning, wake that ass up.
- 40:53Speaker 4: In the morning. Breakfast Club.