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Episode 862 - Jurassic Park Jeep? · Jeep Talk Show

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  Yeah, because the Jeep
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  gets 6,000 pounds pretty easy.
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  Just, just saying.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, even without a big
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  dog, even without a big dog.
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  So, I mean, what's your,
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  what's your feeling on this?
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  If you were buying a new, uh, say a new
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  Rubicon and the, the, the
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  winch option was available, would you,
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  would you go this direction?
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  I don't know.
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  I think it would just
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  depend on what the price is.
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  Right.
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  So, I mean, if it's heavily marked up, I
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  don't want to be paying for that
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  winch for the next however
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  many years you take the loan out.
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  I'm Tony and welcome to the Jeep Talk
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  Show, the premier show for Jeep
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  enthusiasts and hardcore off-roaders.
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  Whether you're new to the Jeep world or a
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  seasoned Jeeper, we've got you
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  covered with the latest news tips, advice
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  to help you get the
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  most out of your Jeep.
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  On tonight's episode, we're going to be
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  talking about limited edition
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  Jurassic Park Jeeps, and
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  this is from Jeep folks.
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  And Larry talks about armor on your Jeep.
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  And in our Gladiator update cabin air
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  your Jeep XJ Cherokee,
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  led side marker lights.
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  Yes.
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  We give the Jeep, the
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  original Jeep Cherokee.
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  They're all screaming right now.
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  Yeah.
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  Some, uh, some, uh, some
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  upgrade, uh, modification love.
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  Are you ready?
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  It's time for the Jeep Talk Show with
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  host Tony, Josh, Wendy, and Chuck.
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  Hi, I'm Larry.
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  And do you like to hit your rocks?
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  Crap.
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  That's all right.
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  That's what you say when
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  you hit the rock, Larry.
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  Yeah.
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  You like to hit your Jeep on rocks.
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  Oh, no, it's just,
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  it's just a coral reef.
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  It's okay.
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  So, uh, but Roman, we'll just
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  remind you guys really quick.
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  No, we're not going to start
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  with the Patreon spiel yet.
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  quick, uh, about our ongoing
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  new episodes of Chick Chat.
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  Yep.
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  A Monday has an episode and it's Chick
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  Chat or I should say Mondays.
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  And, uh, so, uh, we, we
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  had one earlier this week.
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  Hope you enjoyed it.
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  Uh, every other Monday is
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  when those will be coming out.
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  And if you don't already know, Chick Chat
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  is a woman centric, uh, episode
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  And of course the Jeep Talk Show.
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  So it's women talking to women and men
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  about, uh, off-roading Jeeps, all kinds
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  And just a, just a tidbit here.
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  But you know, that's
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  going to happen, right?
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  I mean, that makes sense.
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  All right, Larry.
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  Well, absolutely.
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  Hey, don't forget
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  about the discount codes.
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  Oh yeah.
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  Discount codes.
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  Uh, you get ad free content and, uh, what
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  else you get, uh, exclusive content.
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  Uh, and Larry, I know you are a Patreon
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  subscriber to the Jeep Talk Show.
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  Do you listen to any of the Tony and Josh
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  episodes and you can, you can
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  tell the truth here.
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  You don't have to play it up.
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  Listen to one or two.
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  Is it, is it so far, is it so far in the
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  past that it's not interesting or is it
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  like, Oh, this is just nuts.
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  It's just time and it's
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  just time of the day, actually.
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  Yeah.
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  We had a lot of fun doing that, uh, that
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  the Tony and Josh show and that was a
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  few years back, like a 2016 or something.
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  So, uh, some of those, uh, I mean, the,
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  the, the jokes and the nonsense, uh, are
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  still relevant today,
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  at least I think so.
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  All right, Larry, as
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  teased in the opening.
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  Jeep reveals limited edition Jurassic
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  park appearance package for
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  Wrangler and gladiator.
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  So you can have a Jurassic park gladiator
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  literally years before, when
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  the movie was made in years before the,
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  the, the modern day gladiator came out.
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  It's your big dinosaur on
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  the side of that gladiator.
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  Well, I'm thinking that a nice 50
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  caliber, maybe twin 50 caliber gun on the
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  bed, the bed of the Calico gladiator.
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  Could you imagine the T-Rex chase?
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  If you had a twin 50 Cal in the back of
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  the gladiator, that would have
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  been an interesting,
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  uh, a twist on the movie.
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  Yeah, definitely.
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  It's, uh, the picture in the show notes,
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  definitely, uh, it's kind of got that
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  flavor that goes back to some of the
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  original Jurassic park Jeeps.
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  Yes, it does.
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  And, uh, you know, interestingly enough,
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  uh, this thing is a limit.
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  Well, they say it's a limited edition.
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  But we're talking about
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  really limited as in 100.
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  They're only going to
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  make a hundred of these.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm looking at that picture.
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  It almost looks like it's, it's based off
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  of the Rubicon, uh, at least
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  offenders and
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  everything are Rubicon fenders.
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  Well, you would, you would think so.
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  You'd want to go something
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  that's a hardcore off-road.
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  I mean, if this, this was a fantasy Allen
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  limited edition, then it wouldn't
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  matter because everything was paved on
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  fantasy Allen, but they need lights.
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  They need a set of lights, uh, uh, uh,
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  roof rack lights like they had, and they
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  need to be all misaligned.
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  That still bothers me when I see it.
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  That one light was way off.
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  Well, you never know
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  where the dinosaurs were at.
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  You know, they did the same thing.
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  I think it was a Toyota, uh, in the movie
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  missed, I think it was missed.
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  Uh, you remember that one where they were
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  all in that, uh, grocery store and this,
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  uh, uh, all this fog came in and there
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  was all these wild creatures and, uh,
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  then they went to leave and, uh, he left
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  in his, uh, the, the, the main character.
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  Uh, they all left in his Toyota that was
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  set up for off-road and had the lights.
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  And with all that fog and mist and stuff,
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  um, I thought it was cool.
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  The lights look cool, but
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  the lights were misaligned.
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  I guess it was like those creatures may
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  have come and landed on it and
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  bent it or something
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  is, is what they did.
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  Yeah, that one
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  didn't, didn't end too well.
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  Oh, it really didn't.
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  That was surprising.
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  Wasn't it?
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  I hate movies with bad endings like that.
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  I think it's one of the reasons why I was
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  never a, uh, my Twilight zone fan.
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  My wife, uh, is a big Twilight zone fan.
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  Plus she wears a, where she
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  watches, uh, uh, murder shows.
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  So I'm, I don't know.
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  I'm, it gets a little
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  terrifying around here sometimes.
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  So it was Twilight zone.
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  We taught, are we talking
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  the original Twilight zone?
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  Original ones.
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  No, the original one.
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  Do you know that it's, it's, there's
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  three versions of it.
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  I guess I knew this and had forgotten.
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  There's actually a 2020 version, uh, out
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  and, uh, I think it's
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  available on, uh, Paramount plus.
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  Hmm.
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  I don't think I've ever seen that.
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  Yeah.
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  That's a newer one.
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  Um, I want to say, uh, peel something and
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  peel a couple of, uh, uh, guys
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  that I think were from, um, uh, mad TV
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  days, they're kind of doing something
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  on their Jordan, Jordan
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  peel, I think is who they are.
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  And, uh, they're doing that, that, uh,
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  that new, uh, Twilight zone thing.
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  It was interesting.
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  I watched an episode the other day.
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  Uh, I don't know how much, uh, tick tock
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  and you do, uh, but, uh, I've been
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  getting sucked into watching some shows,
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  uh, just because they're showing clips
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  on tick tock and I saw this, uh, this
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  really interesting concept for a movie
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  or a series or something, and, uh, I just
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  had never seen it and
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  never heard about it.
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  And looked in the comments
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  and it said Twilight zone.
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  I went really, and then I had to do a
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  little digging and I found out it was
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  the, the latest
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  iteration of a Twilight zone.
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  So wouldn't that Rod
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  Serling the original host?
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  Yes, it was.
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  Absolutely.
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  Yeah.
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  So in, uh, we're getting back to the, uh,
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  uh, limited edition, Jurassic park
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  appearance package, and I think that's
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  interesting that they
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  say appearance package.
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  So, uh, I wonder if that means that it's
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  just, you know, like stickers and decals
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  and stuff and nothing, um, mechanically
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  different between the two.
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  Uh, I mean, I think it'd be kind of cool
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  for if it did, we'd come with a, a
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  bit of, uh, Amber with a mosquito, uh,
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  in, uh, embedded in it, you know, hanging
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  from the rear view mirror, you know, just
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  so you could get the whole thing
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  started if you needed to.
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  But in June of 2023, the 30th, uh,
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  anniversary of Jurassic park was hitting
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  theaters, so to celebrate or capitalize
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  all the occasion, uh, Jeep has announced
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  an exclusive limited edition Jurassic
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  park appearance package.
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  Essentially the package is a set of
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  Jurassic park theme decals.
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  Uh, that can be applied to the 2018,
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  2024, a Jeep Wrangler 2021 or to
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  2024, uh, Jeep Wrangler 4XE or 4-by-E or
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  the 2020 to 2023 Jeep Gladiator, uh,
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  for $550 now it should be said that the
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  appearance package isn't a 100%
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  a screen accurate recreation of the
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  design scene in the film, but it does
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  come with some of the most recognizable
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  elements like a Jurassic park logo and
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  doors, uh, and the JP 18 logo for the
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  hood, a Jurassic park theme, transfer
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  case knob is a insert is available with a
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  package and is an option for $650 total.
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  Well, now we understand why it says
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  appearance package because it is a
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  limited edition set of stickers.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  So one of your piece of Amber is in the
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  transfer case shifter.
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  That would be cool.
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  That would really be cool.
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  Well, I mean, if you're into the whole
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  Jurassic park theme, I mean, it's, you
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  know, everybody likes her theme on her
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  Jeep and everybody puts stickers on it.
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  If that's what they like to do.
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  So, eh, you know, it's your own.
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  Well, the cool thing about this is, uh, I
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  initially was thinking that they were
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  actually selling a Jurassic park Jeeps
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  from the factory, but the cool thing
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  about this is, is that, uh, it's, it's
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  not the, you know, 50, 60, $70,000.
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  It's just the, the price
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  for the sticker package.
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  They're limited.
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  Uh, but you know, I don't know, Larry,
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  you play with a lot
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  of stuff over there at
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  your house, you've got
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  all kinds of machines.
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  Do you have the ability
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  to print stickers as well?
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  Well, I don't hear, but I mean, you know,
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  we all know people who do.
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  Right.
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  But I mean, um, if you went to a shop
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  that printed, uh, stickers and stuff,
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  they may not feel comfortable in the
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  copyright aspect of this, but if you
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  have your own, well,
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  let them come after me.
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  You know, I mean, unless you're wearing
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  your Mickey mouse shirt that you made
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  at home to Disney, chances are
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  you're not going to get hurt.
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  So I wonder if you could get those to
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  also at those shops who, who are actually
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  licensed by Jeep to print, uh, you know,
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  use the Jeep fonts and logos for the
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  like Rubicon and that
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  kind of thing for your Jeep.
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  I wonder if they would have that, that
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  sticker package there later.
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  Hey, you never can tell
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  it'd be worth checking.
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  Uh, I mean, of course you
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  can always, and you know what?
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  I was just, I kind of
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  got ahead of myself.
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  I think that it probably would be less
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  than the amount that Jeep is charging
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  because they're probably having to pay
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  some sort of licensing
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  fee to a Jurassic park.
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  Well, I'm sure everybody
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  gets their cut of that pie.
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  Yep.
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  Yep.
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  Um, just curious, uh, not trying to beat
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  up on the movies, but
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  did you watch any of,
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  did you watch the
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  original Jurassic park movie?
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  Yeah, we watched most of them.
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  Did you?
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  What did you think is it?
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  I mean, I'm a big, uh,
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  I forget the guy's name.
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  Uh, Chris, uh, guardian of the galaxy,
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  Chris guy, Chris Pratt, Pratt.
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  Is it Pratt?
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  Uh, I'm a, I'm a fan of his, especially
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  from, uh, his, uh,
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  his hunting and cleaning
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  of, uh, and eating of animals that he's
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  hunted and, you know, the whole, the
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  whole manly man thing that it, that Chris
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  does, uh, um, and he's just fun and, uh,
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  things that he does, but I just never
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  really got interested in iteration after
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  iteration of the Jurassic park.
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  I thought the original one
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  was, was very entertaining.
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  Uh, but I think a lot of it had to do
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  with the actors and
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  their, uh, interaction.
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  Uh, I just didn't see the
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  same thing in the later movies.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm more of a fan of the later movies
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  than the beginning movies.
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  Interesting.
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  Yeah.
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  And it's, you know, it's just one of
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  those, I think more of the actors, like
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  Chris Pratt and them that are in it.
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  It's, I'm not gonna say it's a little
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  more action, but yeah, I
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  like, I like later ones.
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  Yeah.
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  I think there is a lot more action in it.
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  I mean, you know, it's the, that, that
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  all came on the heels of all the
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  Avengers stuff.
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  So it, it had to have a little bit.
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  You know, it's interesting too, talking
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  about the, the Marvel movies.
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  Uh, I was just amazed with
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  the, the first Iron Man movie.
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  It was funny.
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  It was exciting.
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  Uh, and I thought about it later.
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  I actually read something about, uh, Tony
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  Stark, uh, in the, the movie, uh,
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  being a middle aged superhero and it
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  went, Oh, well now I understand why I
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  like this one so much.
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  With the right suit, I could do the same
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  thing, but the follow up movies now, I
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  mean, I just didn't care for the follow
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  ups as much, the Captain America movies
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  were good, the Iron Man
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  movies, one, uh, the one was good.
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  Uh, but, uh, the whole one where they had
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  50,000 superheroes on the
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  screen at the same time.
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  And that's so much.
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  So here you go.
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  What about an Iron Man Jeep?
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  That would be pretty cool.
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  That could be cool.
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  And especially, oh, this
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  is going to be cool too.
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  Whenever AI gets really, uh, really out
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  there, your, uh, your infotainment
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  system could be Jarvis.
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  And there you go.
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  Oh, a million dollar
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  Jeep idea right there.
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  Like nobody else has
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  come up with that one.
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  So I'm going to, I'm going to put you
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  down for a no on the Jurassic
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  park stickers for your Jeep.
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  Well, I might need them before long.
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  Keep getting scratches
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  on mine from wheeling.
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  Um, did you ever look at
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  the, the meek magnet stuff?
• 14:56
  Uh, not yet.
• 14:57
  Not yet.
• 14:58
  But you know about it.
• 14:59
  Oh yeah.
• 14:59
  I know about it.
• 15:01
  Yeah.
• 15:01
  We've had a few interviews here with the,
• 15:04
  with the lady who started it.
• 15:05
  It was Monica as well.
• 15:06
  Right.
• 15:07
  Mm-hmm.
• 15:07
  Uh, yeah.
• 15:08
  I mean, I'm thinking, uh, 50 pictures of
• 15:10
  Duke just all around your Jeep.
• 15:13
  Yeah.
• 15:16
  Duke, uh, transportation vehicle.
• 15:19
  Please do not bought block.
• 15:21
  Um, uh, I don't know if you ever, I don't
• 15:23
  know if this is a, uh, a nation, uh,
• 15:26
  depending on where you are on the nation
• 15:27
  thing, but I've noticed, uh, down
• 15:29
  here in the Southeast Texas area, every
• 15:32
  so often I would see a vehicle, uh, some
• 15:34
  sort of a delivery vehicle or a box truck
• 15:37
  type thing, and they would not have a, it
• 15:39
  wasn't a logo or anything.
• 15:41
  It was just a very simple, um, probably
• 15:44
  10 or 12 inch high letters that said
• 15:47
  fish, and I never understood why it was,
• 15:53
  it was like an official thing.
• 15:55
  Then they would put fish on the outside
• 15:57
  of the, they were usually the back of
• 15:59
  these things, and I don't know if it had
• 16:00
  to do with warning people that they may
• 16:02
  have to, uh, you know, not, not to block
• 16:04
  them in because there's, they're
• 16:06
  carrying fish or what, and it was, I
• 16:10
  never found any information on it.
• 16:12
  Did you ever see anything that just says
• 16:14
  a very simple generic fish on the back
• 16:16
  of the delivery vehicle?
• 16:18
  No, never have it.
• 16:19
  I was at with an F or a pH.
• 16:21
  No, it was, it was not, uh,
• 16:25
  it was not social engineering.
• 16:26
  It wasn't fishing.
• 16:28
  It was a fish with, uh, you know, like
• 16:30
  the proper spelling, the proper word
• 16:31
  four letters and, uh,
• 16:33
  they, it's ever seen that.
• 16:35
  Yeah.
• 16:35
  Maybe, uh, maybe one of our listeners out
• 16:37
  there knows the, uh, the, the, the
• 16:40
  reason for that.
• 16:41
  I mean, there's all kinds of things that
• 16:43
  we can come up with, but the, the
• 16:44
  official reason it wasn't like the same
• 16:46
  vehicles and the, the vehicles were
• 16:48
  nondescript, it wasn't like they were,
• 16:49
  uh, had a brand name
• 16:51
  or anything like that
• 16:52
  on the side, like, you know, sticks on
• 16:54
  the side and fish on the back.
• 16:56
  Uh, it was just a plain panel van.
• 16:59
  Uh, I mean, I think the only way it could
• 17:01
  have been better, uh, if it said
• 17:03
  10 millimeter instead of fish, then, then
• 17:04
  I'm really been interested.
• 17:07
  Yeah.
• 17:07
  Can't say I've ever seen that one.
• 17:08
  Okay.
• 17:09
  Well, uh, we got it out anyway.
• 17:11
  All right.
• 17:11
  This one I picked up from a motor trend,
• 17:14
  which you guys can go over there and read
• 17:15
  more about it from a motor trend.
• 17:17
  But, uh, so it appears, uh, two things I
• 17:21
  learned from this, uh, installing a
• 17:23
  factory winch on the 2024 Jeep Wrangler,
• 17:25
  uh, wasn't as easy as you think.
• 17:28
  And you can actually get a 2024 Jeep
• 17:32
  Wrangler with a winch
• 17:34
  installed from the factory.
• 17:36
  Had you heard about this, Larry?
• 17:38
  I've heard, I've heard that they started
• 17:39
  putting the, the worn winches
• 17:41
  in them now, right?
• 17:41
  Well, and it's not just the worn winches.
• 17:44
  They're specially made worn winches for
• 17:46
  Jeep, you know, cause you can't
• 17:48
  just take something off the shelf.
• 17:50
  Right.
• 17:52
  So, uh, the, uh, it is a,
• 17:55
  the, the winch that you can get.
• 17:56
  Oh, and I'm sure you knew this.
• 17:58
  You used to be able to get a snorkels,
• 18:00
  uh, factory snorkels when you
• 18:02
  ordered your, your Wrangler.
• 18:03
  Were you aware of this?
• 18:05
  No, I didn't know you could buy those
• 18:06
  factory on the, on the jail,
• 18:08
  JT models or earlier.
• 18:10
  Uh, I, I would think that it was the JLs,
• 18:13
  the prior to 2024, uh, based on this
• 18:15
  article, but I could be wrong.
• 18:17
  Uh, but apparently you could get the
• 18:19
  snorkels, uh, but no winch.
• 18:21
  And now you can get a
• 18:22
  winch, but not a snorkel.
• 18:24
  Yeah, I never knew he could snorkel.
• 18:27
  Yep.
• 18:28
  So, um, The 2024 Jeep Wrangler recently
• 18:33
  received a handful of off-road goodies
• 18:35
  and tech upgrades for the mid cycle
• 18:38
  facelift, including one very prominent
• 18:40
  and desirable feature worshiped by four
• 18:44
  by four enthusiasts.
• 18:46
  Uh, no, you can't have the new Wrangler
• 18:49
  with a factory snorkel, but for the first
• 18:51
  time in production history, the Jeep
• 18:54
  Wrangler Rubicon can roll off the
• 18:56
  assembly line with its own unique worn
• 18:59
  winch in the front bumper.
• 19:02
  Hmm.
• 19:02
  Yeah.
• 19:03
  You know, that's always, that's, that's
• 19:05
  always been kind of the thing that most
• 19:07
  people struggle with when they put any
• 19:09
  kind of winch on the, on the front of
• 19:10
  their jails, at least trying to get a
• 19:13
  winch in there and where the, the
• 19:16
  housing isn't hitting the front grill.
• 19:18
  Right.
• 19:19
  Oh yeah.
• 19:19
  Very true.
• 19:21
  So this 8,000 pound, uh, capacity, uh,
• 19:25
  winch appears to be based on the
• 19:26
  Warren Xenon 8S, but Jeep explained that
• 19:31
  the new winch was built specifically
• 19:32
  for the Wrangler, uh, this Warren winch
• 19:35
  features a smaller drum holding 90
• 19:38
  feet of synthetic winch rope compared to
• 19:41
  100, uh, similar rope on the Warren
• 19:43
  Xenon 8S as well as a Jeep specific
• 19:47
  fairlead with the anchor winch hook on,
• 19:51
  uh, to the driver's side.
• 19:52
  We also were told this winch uses an
• 19:55
  automatic grade grease.
• 19:57
  I'm sorry, automotive grade grease, which
• 20:00
  kind of makes more sense, uh, within
• 20:02
  the winch, uh, casting.
• 20:03
  So, um, what do you think?
• 20:05
  I mean, it's, it's 10 feet less.
• 20:07
  It sounds like they may have made this
• 20:09
  thing a little smaller to fit in the
• 20:11
  bumper, uh, better.
• 20:13
  Yeah.
• 20:14
  Well, rarely do you get all the winch
• 20:16
  line out in any way and you can always
• 20:17
  put a, put an
• 20:18
  extension on it if you have to.
• 20:20
  Yeah.
• 20:20
  You don't want, you don't want to winch
• 20:22
  out all the, uh, have all the, the
• 20:24
  cable or synthetic rope out anyway.
• 20:26
  Uh, but, uh, you know, I don't know, a
• 20:28
  hundred feet sounds better than 90.
• 20:30
  I mean, cause you can go 80 and, uh, on
• 20:33
  the hundred and still
• 20:33
  be doing really well.
• 20:36
  Yeah.
• 20:36
  It's kind of interesting that fairly it's
• 20:38
  got that, it's got that post in the,
• 20:40
  in the show notes, you actually clip the
• 20:41
  hook onto and I know they've came out
• 20:44
  with other fair leads like that, that
• 20:47
  where you can slip, uh, the end of a
• 20:50
  synthetic loop over it as well.
• 20:52
  So it looks like it's kind of taken off
• 20:54
  on that a little bit.
• 20:55
  That looks like that would be a really
• 20:57
  simple thing to, to build and add to
• 20:59
  any, uh, uh, fair lead that you had, even
• 21:01
  if it was a, uh, uh, a cable, uh, line.
• 21:06
  Um, so, um, I think it's
• 21:10
  cool that it says Jeep.
• 21:11
  I mean, you kind of expect that if you're
• 21:12
  getting it from the factory,
• 21:14
  it's, it's a nice, uh, factory option.
• 21:16
  Uh, I don't know.
• 21:18
  Uh, I kind of like it, but I don't like
• 21:21
  the idea that it's an 8,000 pound winch.
• 21:24
  I mean, if it's a factory Jeep, okay.
• 21:26
  But what happens when you start lift kit,
• 21:28
  bigger tires, bigger wheels, uh, skid
• 21:30
  plates, maybe a full skid system on it,
• 21:33
  um, a replacement
• 21:35
  rear bumper, maybe, uh, I
• 21:36
  guess you're not going to replace the
• 21:37
  front bumper and that kind of limits you
• 21:39
  there too, because you might want to have
• 21:41
  a, uh, a more robust and don't get me
• 21:44
  wrong, the, the Rubicon boppers, at least
• 21:46
  on the, uh, the, the later model, uh, uh,
• 21:49
  Wrangler is very, is a very nice bumper.
• 21:51
  I mean, the ones that are plastic, the
• 21:53
  steel, the steel ones like, come on the
• 21:55
  Rubicons, um, they are very nice bumpers
• 21:57
  for a factory bumper.
• 21:58
  Uh, but I don't know that I
• 22:00
  would want to be limited to that.
• 22:01
  Uh, I don't, I mean, this, the, the winch
• 22:04
  is limited because it's not a
• 22:06
  standard worn winch.
• 22:08
  Uh, the, I suspect they haven't changed
• 22:11
  anything with the bumper.
• 22:12
  Uh, that, uh, they probably is just a
• 22:14
  standard steel, uh, Rubicon style bumper
• 22:16
  with a winch plate in
• 22:17
  it, but, uh, I don't know.
• 22:19
  It did to me.
• 22:20
  I think it's cool.
• 22:21
  If, if all you're going to do is buy
• 22:23
  something and you're not going to be
• 22:24
  adding stuff to it, uh,
• 22:26
  it kind of makes sense.
• 22:27
  But if you want to modify it yourself and
• 22:29
  put what you want on there, maybe
• 22:31
  have a 10,000 pound capacity winch
• 22:33
  instead of a 8,000, uh,
• 22:35
  this is kind of limiting.
• 22:37
  Yeah.
• 22:37
  Cause the Jeep gets
• 22:39
  6,000 pounds pretty easy.
• 22:40
  Just, just saying.
• 22:42
  Yeah.
• 22:42
  Well, even without a big
• 22:43
  dog, even without a big dog.
• 22:47
  So, I mean, what's your,
• 22:48
  what's your feeling on this?
• 22:49
  If you were buying a new, uh, say a new
• 22:51
  Rubicon and the, the, the winch
• 22:53
  option was available, would you, would
• 22:54
  you go this direction?
• 22:56
  I don't know.
• 22:56
  I think it would just
• 22:57
  depend on what the price is.
• 22:59
  Right.
• 22:59
  So, I mean, if it's heavily marked up, I
• 23:02
  don't want to be paying for that
• 23:04
  winch for the next however many years you
• 23:06
  take the loan out and then, you
• 23:09
  know, and that's because the minute you
• 23:11
  started upgrading, if you peel that
• 23:13
  bumper off there, you know,
• 23:15
  you know how upgrade snowball.
• 23:18
  Yes.
• 23:19
  While you're in there.
• 23:20
  Yeah.
• 23:20
  Now you're still paying for that winch
• 23:22
  and everything else on that loan.
• 23:24
  That, so I guess it would just depend on
• 23:26
  what, what kind of price a factory puts
• 23:29
  on that and, uh, you know,
• 23:32
  well, you know, a lot of people, uh, try
• 23:34
  to sell, uh, like Facebook marketplace
• 23:37
  or, or whatever, they try to sell the
• 23:39
  takeoffs and if it's some sort of plastic
• 23:42
  bumper that came on your Jeep, you're
• 23:43
  probably not going to have a very
• 23:44
  good time selling that, uh, you get the
• 23:46
  right person that they've had the
• 23:48
  right accident than maybe, uh, but I bet
• 23:51
  you this would have a high price tag as
• 23:54
  the, the steel factory bumpers do.
• 23:56
  If you try to buy a steel factory bumper,
• 23:58
  you quickly find out that those things
• 23:59
  are pretty pricey online
• 24:01
  because they're coveted.
• 24:03
  So, uh, the, the first time ever you can
• 24:06
  get a Warren winch, uh, that is
• 24:08
  built into the Jeep bumper.
• 24:10
  I bet you this is fetch a pretty good,
• 24:12
  uh, pretty good paycheck off of a
• 24:14
  Facebook marketplace or, or Craigslist.
• 24:16
  If anybody still uses this.
• 24:17
  Well, yeah.
• 24:18
  I mean, we all build our Jeeps, unless
• 24:20
  you're going to this, this one tons
• 24:23
  and just crazy with it, a lot of us build
• 24:25
  our Jeeps out of takeoffs.
• 24:27
  So, you know, then the steel bumpers,
• 24:29
  when I was looking,
• 24:31
  they were quite pricey.
• 24:32
  Yeah.
• 24:33
  I went out of the market
• 24:34
  just, just for that reason.
• 24:35
  Yeah.
• 24:36
  I liked, I liked the look of that steel
• 24:38
  bumper when you take the
• 24:39
  end caps off and it's the stubby bumper.
• 24:42
  That's good looking bumper.
• 24:44
  I love it.
• 24:44
  One of her, the, uh, the engineers, well,
• 24:47
  and I say the engineers, but also to
• 24:49
  the company, uh, that the
• 24:51
  engineers work for allow it.
• 24:52
  Uh, I really like it.
• 24:53
  Whenever the engineers design something
• 24:55
  that is, is very useful, uh, for, uh,
• 24:59
  for Jeepers, you know, you buy a Jeep and
• 25:01
  you have those, those
• 25:02
  fancy things like that.
• 25:03
  Uh, I mean, that's kind of what a Jeep
• 25:04
  is, is the, the
• 25:06
  ability to take off a top,
• 25:07
  uh, to change the top from a hard top to
• 25:09
  a soft top or no top, uh, all those
• 25:12
  variations, uh, I mean, that had to be
• 25:14
  engineered to start with.
• 25:16
  And it's neat when you see more
• 25:17
  engineering like this
• 25:19
  thing, you would, you
• 25:19
  just mentioned like taking the ends off
• 25:21
  of the bumper so you could make it a,
• 25:23
  uh, more of a stubby bumper and, uh, the,
• 25:26
  the ability to add a winch, uh, without
• 25:28
  having to replace the bumper, maybe just,
• 25:30
  I can't remember if the, the, I don't
• 25:32
  think that the steel factory
• 25:33
  bumpers come with a winch plate.
• 25:35
  Uh, so you probably just have to get a
• 25:36
  winch plate for it, but that's, it's a
• 25:38
  damn sight better than, uh,
• 25:40
  getting a whole new bumper.
• 25:42
  You know, the one thing I noticed in the
• 25:43
  show notes here that that
• 25:45
  2024 bumper, it looks like it's got to
• 25:48
  be, I'm gonna call it
• 25:49
  a snubber or whatever
• 25:50
  you want to call it on the very front of
• 25:52
  it that I don't remember being there.
• 25:54
  On, uh, on the 23 models.
• 25:58
  Do you mean that, that
• 25:59
  thing poking for really far out?
• 26:01
  Right.
• 26:02
  Yeah.
• 26:02
  Uh, that does look a little strange.
• 26:04
  It looks like it sticks out further.
• 26:06
  I wonder if that's to help
• 26:07
  protect the, uh, the winch.
• 26:09
  I don't know.
• 26:10
  Or they put it on there for impact or
• 26:12
  something like that, because you know,
• 26:13
  they've added a few
• 26:14
  other features to the Jeeps.
• 26:17
  Um, if I remember right, if you go into
• 26:19
  wheel well, it's down low in the wheel.
• 26:22
  Well, there's an extra piece in there for
• 26:24
  rollover protection that they've added.
• 26:27
  So I wonder if, you know, pieces like
• 26:29
  that have showed up just for that reason.
• 26:33
  Well, it's very interesting and I like
• 26:35
  this and, uh, I didn't, I don't
• 26:36
  have it here in the show notes, but, uh,
• 26:38
  I did read in the article.
• 26:39
  I think they were alluding to, uh, the
• 26:42
  fact that, uh, Bronco, uh, Ford Bronco
• 26:44
  may be the reason why
• 26:45
  we're seeing things like this.
• 26:47
  Uh, certainly I believe that the V8, uh,
• 26:49
  in the Wrangler is, uh, is
• 26:51
  directly due to the Bronco coming out.
• 26:53
  I don't know that much about Broncos.
• 26:55
  I don't really read up on much
• 26:56
  information, but I suspect based on what
• 26:59
  I saw in the, uh, the article that, uh,
• 27:02
  this is a, an option either currently
• 27:05
  for the Ford Broncos or maybe upcoming,
• 27:07
  uh, being able to have a
• 27:08
  winch from the factory.
• 27:10
  Oh yeah.
• 27:10
  I love it when a Bronco keeps coming out
• 27:12
  with more and more stuff.
• 27:14
  I don't plan on buying one, but it forces
• 27:18
  everybody else to raise
• 27:19
  the game a little bit.
• 27:20
  Exactly.
• 27:21
  Uh, and, and I don't mean any hatred to
• 27:23
  any of the Apple people out there.
• 27:24
  Cause I know there's a lot of Apple, uh,
• 27:26
  fanboys and fan girls out there.
• 27:29
  Uh, but I decided a long time ago, I
• 27:30
  wasn't interested in Apple because Apple
• 27:32
  makes too many decisions for me.
• 27:34
  I want to be able to
• 27:35
  make my own decisions.
• 27:36
  It's like, uh, having a standard
• 27:38
  transmission or, uh, an Atlas transfer
• 27:40
  case where you can decide how you're
• 27:42
  going to do things and you may decide to
• 27:43
  do it wrong, but you may, uh, do it
• 27:45
  better than what the
• 27:46
  automatic stuff would do.
• 27:48
  So I never was interested in Apple, but
• 27:50
  Apple pushes the industry.
• 27:52
  They, they make things, they have made
• 27:54
  things better, uh, and all the other,
• 27:57
  for all the other manufacturers.
• 27:59
  Uh, and it's wonderful.
• 28:00
  And I'm, I am really happy that, uh, Ford
• 28:02
  has done what they've done and, uh,
• 28:05
  continued success, at least enough
• 28:07
  success so we can keep
• 28:08
  getting good stuff with Jeep.
• 28:10
  Absolutely.
• 28:11
  I don't think we have to worry about, uh,
• 28:14
  uh, the Bronco taking over, uh,
• 28:16
  the Jeep market anytime soon.
• 28:20
  Now, if Tesla starts coming out with
• 28:22
  something, uh, we'll
• 28:23
  have to wait and see.
• 28:26
  Yeah.
• 28:27
  I don't think we had to worry about that.
• 28:29
  Uh, well, you know, there's Rivian, uh,
• 28:32
  the Rivian actually has done
• 28:34
  several things to, to enhance its
• 28:36
  off-road capability.
• 28:38
  Uh, it doesn't look very off-roady, but
• 28:40
  then again, a lot of the, uh, Toyotas
• 28:43
  and Suparoos and stuff that are out there
• 28:45
  being taken off-road don't look
• 28:46
  off-roady either, but they, but they have
• 28:48
  a tendency to do just fine.
• 28:50
  That Rivian's a nice,
• 28:51
  uh, that's a nice rig.
• 28:52
  I've actually got the C1 and kind of walk
• 28:55
  around it a little bit and, uh,
• 28:57
  things actually put together fairly well.
• 28:59
  You can walk around some of the other,
• 29:02
  been around some of
• 29:02
  the other vehicles and
• 29:03
  you just look at it and know that this
• 29:06
  thing isn't, isn't going to last, but
• 29:07
  that Rivian was
• 29:08
  actually kind of surprising.
• 29:10
  So, uh, I know that we're going on
• 29:13
  another rabbit hole here, but
• 29:14
  absolutely.
• 29:15
  I was, I saw the inside of a Rivian, uh,
• 29:19
  one night went to a, uh, an
• 29:20
  off-road meeting type thing and, uh, came
• 29:23
  out, uh, with, uh, the guy actually
• 29:25
  went over there to meet and there was
• 29:27
  somebody that was part of that group
• 29:29
  that had a Rivian and of course he had it
• 29:30
  decked out with, you know, the rack
• 29:33
  and all kinds of crap, uh, that were on
• 29:35
  there and then there's nothing wrong with
• 29:36
  that.
• 29:36
  I just don't see that thing being used
• 29:38
  for off-road as much
• 29:39
  as what he put on there.
• 29:40
  But the same thing happens to gladiators
• 29:42
  where people just loaded up all kinds of
• 29:44
  crap and, uh, it looks great going back
• 29:46
  and forth to work every day.
• 29:48
  Um, so, uh, and, uh, they, he said he was
• 29:51
  going to go, go for a ride.
• 29:52
  Would I like to go on?
• 29:53
  I said, no, I'm fine.
• 29:54
  I'm actually going to head home.
• 29:55
  Uh, but I looked in there and the, the
• 29:58
  dash, and I've made this comment before.
• 30:00
  The dash looked like it
• 30:02
  was something from Star Trek.
• 30:03
  It looked like a shuttle, uh, dash, uh,
• 30:06
  but it did have a steering wheel or,
• 30:07
  and I always hated that the shuttle
• 30:09
  should at least have a joystick.
• 30:10
  And it was really cool looking.
• 30:14
  And I know that the, the Cybertruck from,
• 30:17
  from Tesla has not been officially
• 30:19
  released.
• 30:20
  I mean, they do have a
• 30:21
  production model out, uh, in Austin.
• 30:23
  They, that was like two, three weeks ago.
• 30:25
  Um, but, uh, I've only seen very small
• 30:29
  snippets of the interior and the
• 30:31
  interior has pedals, it has a steering
• 30:34
  wheel and it has a screen and seats.
• 30:39
  So it's very, a very Spartan layout.
• 30:42
  I mean, it's fine.
• 30:43
  I mean, what do you,
• 30:44
  what more do you need?
• 30:45
  But if you can sit in a Rivian and go,
• 30:47
  wow, this is like the future, you
• 30:50
  know, did I time travel?
• 30:52
  And then you sit in another one where
• 30:53
  it's just, I mean, it's a truck.
• 30:55
  So yeah, I mean, a truck only needs to do
• 30:58
  what it needs to do.
• 30:59
  And anything else on there, uh, now
• 31:01
  you're starting to talk about, you know,
• 31:03
  modern day, $80,000, uh, forwards and,
• 31:06
  uh, Chevy's and stuff.
• 31:08
  And it's like, is this a truck or is this
• 31:09
  just a big vehicle to cruise around in?
• 31:12
  Uh, and usually that's the ladder.
• 31:14
  So, uh, the, the big thing for the, the
• 31:17
  Cybertruck is going to be, uh, you
• 31:19
  know, how much, how much range it has,
• 31:22
  uh, how, how it holds up and how
• 31:24
  trucky it is, can, how can you use it,
• 31:26
  uh, for actually for a truck?
• 31:29
  Uh, I don't see anything about, uh, like
• 31:31
  a air suspension system, which I believe
• 31:33
  is what the Rivian has that you can use
• 31:36
  to lower or raise it, uh, for like
• 31:38
  off-road capabilities.
• 31:39
  Now I have heard that there, there's
• 31:41
  going to be two, uh,
• 31:42
  two motor, two electric
• 31:43
  motor version, uh, versions and four
• 31:45
  electric motor versions.
• 31:46
  And I would think that the four electric
• 31:48
  motor version is definitely going to be
• 31:50
  more, uh, likely to be
• 31:52
  a good off-road vehicle.
• 31:53
  Uh, the interesting thing is, is that,
• 31:55
  uh, I don't know if
• 31:56
  you've followed this at
• 31:57
  all, I've been following it cause I'm a
• 31:58
  Tesla stock owner, uh, full self-driving
• 32:01
  is being, uh, is coming out, not the
• 32:03
  beta, but the one that
• 32:06
  is full self-driving.
• 32:08
  So it's, it does a lot of people, uh, but
• 32:12
  the, they're, they're shooting for 10
• 32:14
  times safer than what
• 32:15
  people could drive the vehicle.
• 32:18
  Uh, and did you do you remember the movie
• 32:19
  I robot where Wilson Milt takes over the
• 32:22
  control of the car that's doing 300 miles
• 32:24
  an hour and he's being chastised
• 32:26
  about he's not, uh, that's not
• 32:28
  something he should be doing.
• 32:30
  It's stupid.
• 32:31
  I, that's the future.
• 32:33
  That's what's going to be happening.
• 32:34
  The, the insurance company will only pay
• 32:37
  a certain amount if it's proven that you
• 32:39
  were in control of the vehicle.
• 32:41
  Whenever a wreck occurred, mark my words.
• 32:44
  And you may even get a citation.
• 32:47
  Well, it's already happened that, uh,
• 32:49
  there's been a few accidents with some
• 32:51
  of the beta versions of that and a driver
• 32:54
  is still sued because it was up to them
• 32:56
  to disengage it.
• 32:57
  Yeah.
• 32:57
  Well, it makes sense.
• 32:58
  Um, I mean, I was
• 32:59
  already can be Johnny cab.
• 33:02
  Oh, it's so funny.
• 33:03
  There was, I saw one of those, uh, robots
• 33:05
  that, that, that they're working on, not
• 33:07
  Tesla, but another company, and it really
• 33:09
  reminded me a lot of the, the driver, the
• 33:12
  robotic driver in total recall, the
• 33:14
  Johnny cab use reference.
• 33:15
  And I think that would be hilarious.
• 33:17
  I mean, we're looking at very soon that
• 33:20
  being a possibility, I wouldn't be
• 33:21
  surprised if, uh, if Elon didn't build
• 33:24
  one of those things, because then put the
• 33:26
  FSD in it, it's, it would be hilarious.
• 33:30
  We all know that Jeep's been playing
• 33:32
  with, uh, full electric versions of it.
• 33:34
  Yeah.
• 33:35
  And there's, there's been a
• 33:36
  new version at each of the EJS.
• 33:39
  So it's, it's coming.
• 33:40
  Yeah.
• 33:41
  So it's going to be a
• 33:42
  very interesting world.
• 33:42
  And, uh, now I haven't, I did not, I am
• 33:45
  not old enough to remember the early, uh,
• 33:48
  vehicles, but I do remember a lot of
• 33:50
  vehicles, uh, that have come along.
• 33:52
  So it just amazes me that in my lifetime,
• 33:55
  uh, we've gone from, uh, vehicles, uh,
• 33:58
  America made vehicles that might get
• 33:59
  60,000 miles before you need to start
• 34:02
  thinking about replacing it, uh, to
• 34:04
  vehicles that are especially the electric
• 34:07
  ones that should have a very long
• 34:09
  duration, simply because of the, uh, heat
• 34:12
  cycles and the complexity, uh, that isn't
• 34:15
  there like it is on internal combustion.
• 34:17
  Uh, really the only thing being, uh, the
• 34:19
  batteries, how long will the batteries
• 34:20
  last, how many times can you charge them?
• 34:23
  Uh, to, to being full self-driving and
• 34:27
  not anything that requires radar or
• 34:29
  light, our, or, uh, it only works in a,
• 34:32
  uh, an area where you have detailed
• 34:34
  information, uh, the, the Tesla stuff,
• 34:38
  the full self-driving, if you guys don't
• 34:39
  know the full
• 34:40
  self-driving stuff, they use cameras.
• 34:42
  In other words, they're using like eyes
• 34:44
  like we do to drive.
• 34:46
  So, uh, and, and artificial intelligence
• 34:50
  for training so that they can do a bunch
• 34:52
  of training, uh, without having to drive
• 34:54
  the car around and making mistakes.
• 34:56
  So yeah, uh, full self-driving is going
• 34:59
  to be amazing and, and, and getting a
• 35:01
  cyber truck that can drive, um, for you.
• 35:06
  I mean, Larry, you have to go to Home
• 35:09
  Depot or our welding shop or something
• 35:11
  like that, how cool would it be that you
• 35:14
  place your order online?
• 35:16
  You tell your cyber truck to go pick up
• 35:17
  the stuff and the people at the place
• 35:21
  where you're going to pick up your stuff
• 35:22
  already know that they're going to be
• 35:24
  placing the things in the, in your
• 35:26
  vehicle and waving at the camera or
• 35:28
  whatever, when it's okay to go or maybe
• 35:30
  holding up a barcode or something saying
• 35:32
  you're ready to go and then the truck
• 35:34
  drives back home, backs into your
• 35:35
  driveway and you just take the stuff out
• 35:36
  and move it into your garage.
• 35:38
  Yeah.
• 35:39
  Now, how cool would that be?
• 35:41
  Well, I'm going to sound
• 35:42
  like every old guy out there.
• 35:44
  I think when I say no, thank you.
• 35:47
  Oh, I think you're
• 35:48
  going to change your tune.
• 35:50
  I really don't want me or my family on a
• 35:52
  road with a bunch of vehicles
• 35:53
  going every which direction without,
• 35:56
  without some inner, I'll say people
• 35:58
  interaction in that cab.
• 36:00
  It's happening now full
• 36:02
  self-driving is coming out.
• 36:03
  I know.
• 36:04
  There's, and I've, and I've, I've said
• 36:07
  this before, there's going to be a lot of
• 36:08
  fun just picking on the AI because you're
• 36:11
  going to be able to swerve at the, the
• 36:13
  car when you don't see a driver and it's
• 36:14
  going to stop and
• 36:15
  it's going to pull over.
• 36:17
  It's going to be so wimpy.
• 36:19
  So people will be going out on Friday
• 36:21
  nights and messing with the AI is looking
• 36:24
  for AI vehicles and messing with them.
• 36:26
  Yeah.
• 36:27
  That's how a cyberdyne starts, right?
• 36:30
  Yes.
• 36:32
  Oh, that'll be good.
• 36:34
  So Tony, what do you
• 36:35
  think about Jeep armor?
• 36:37
  Well, what do you, what do you mean?
• 36:38
  You mean like skid plates, um, fender
• 36:41
  well type things or that, uh, meek magnet
• 36:45
  stuff where you
• 36:46
  actually put it on the body.
• 36:46
  Maybe it's a, the answer to that is yes.
• 36:49
  Well, that's a little bit of yes, but I'm
• 36:50
  kind of thinking more of, uh, the
• 36:53
  actual body armor that
• 36:54
  wraps around the body.
• 36:55
  Now I know there's been quite a few
• 36:57
  manufacturers out there who's came up
• 37:00
  with the aluminum, you know, new, uh,
• 37:02
  corner pieces and everything there, you
• 37:05
  know, to help protect the tub, your, your
• 37:07
  Jeep so that if you're out wheeling and
• 37:09
  you hit it and or
• 37:11
  camouflage after you hit it.
• 37:13
  Yes.
• 37:15
  It's always great to not have to worry
• 37:17
  about painting it or, uh, getting that
• 37:20
  dent out of there, just
• 37:20
  put something over it.
• 37:22
  Right.
• 37:22
  You know, quite a few were making those,
• 37:24
  uh, really nice bent up aluminum pieces
• 37:27
  that go over those, the, uh, the rear
• 37:29
  corners and then you can, you know, get
• 37:31
  in where it comes all along the, uh, the
• 37:33
  bottom of the tub where you, where you
• 37:35
  smacked it cause you didn't have rock way
• 37:37
  rock rails on it yet or, you know, so
• 37:41
  I've been, I've been seeing quite a few
• 37:43
  of those out there and really nice
• 37:45
  aluminum and it's, I'm going to say it's
• 37:48
  around an eighth or a three 16th thick
• 37:51
  bent up aluminum pieces that, you know,
• 37:54
  I'm really kind of looking at, looking
• 37:57
  at a little bit more of them and Toledo
• 37:59
  for the Toledo Jeep Fest this weekend.
• 38:01
  To see, you know, some of the stuff they
• 38:03
  came out there because I've noticed that
• 38:05
  quite a few of the people who are making
• 38:07
  like aluminum skid plates and everything
• 38:10
  for the under are making all
• 38:12
  that stuff for the body now.
• 38:13
  And that was interesting.
• 38:15
  Yeah.
• 38:15
  If that's anything you
• 38:17
  would ever be interested in or.
• 38:19
  I think the only thing that I was
• 38:21
  interested in, um, uh, I kind of was, I
• 38:24
  kind of jumped a little too quick.
• 38:25
  I think, uh, when I got the, the sliders
• 38:27
  for the gladiator, um, part of that was
• 38:30
  had had to do with price too, cause I
• 38:32
  think it was like 600 bucks, uh, maybe
• 38:34
  let, maybe less for
• 38:36
  the sliders that I got.
• 38:37
  Uh, and, uh, I, I don't think it was
• 38:39
  until I got them that I realized the
• 38:42
  sliders, uh, did not tie into the frame.
• 38:46
  It really just ties into
• 38:47
  the pinch weld, the pinching.
• 38:49
  Right.
• 38:49
  They're very strong.
• 38:50
  I mean, and, and they will hold the
• 38:52
  weight of the vehicle.
• 38:53
  Uh, but, uh, I really, uh, I was not
• 38:55
  looking forward to, uh, breaking those
• 38:58
  bolts loose to hold the,
• 38:59
  uh, the cab to the frame.
• 39:01
  Uh, but that's kind of the,
• 39:02
  the, the best way to go about it.
• 39:03
  At least I think, um, now I did see, I, I
• 39:07
  got those before I started investigating
• 39:09
  the motor built stuff.
• 39:10
  And once I got the front bumper, once I
• 39:14
  got the front bumper for them, I, uh,
• 39:16
  I started looking at more of the other
• 39:17
  stuff that they had.
• 39:18
  And I was really liking those sliders
• 39:20
  that they had and those sliders.
• 39:22
  And I don't know what it's called, but
• 39:23
  it, it goes up on the
• 39:24
  side of the gladiator
• 39:26
  as well, or, you know, the, the Wrangler,
• 39:28
  if you get it from the Wrangler.
• 39:29
  Where it provides protection, um, like in
• 39:32
  front of the door,
• 39:33
  uh, down below the door
• 39:35
  and, you know, all the way back to the,
• 39:37
  but the back of the cab of the gladiator.
• 39:39
  Uh, I thought that probably would have
• 39:40
  been a better thing to get.
• 39:42
  Now I do believe that they make those
• 39:44
  alone where they, you don't have to
• 39:46
  get them along with the sliders, but I
• 39:49
  kind of liked the idea of that
• 39:50
  protection, uh, being, being there.
• 39:52
  The doors are still, uh, available to be
• 39:55
  damaged, which is kind of like, uh, one
• 39:56
  of the reasons why I like
• 39:57
  the, the Miek magnet stuff.
• 39:59
  Uh, there's no, uh, permanent, uh, rivets
• 40:03
  or screws or whatever that you're
• 40:05
  having to do to those doors is just stick
• 40:07
  it on there and peel it off whenever you,
• 40:09
  uh, whenever you need to or want to.
• 40:12
  Yeah.
• 40:12
  And so the motor belt wind
• 40:13
  you're talking about though, you
• 40:14
  got a riven that those on in that, right?
• 40:17
  Um, I'm not sure.
• 40:19
  I didn't, I never went into detail as far
• 40:21
  as figuring all that stuff out.
• 40:22
  Um, there, um, yeah, I'm just sitting
• 40:27
  there looking at the motor belt site
• 40:28
  real quick to see if I could find it.
• 40:30
  It looks like those, uh, the, the, the
• 40:33
  support brackets, um, the, not support
• 40:35
  brackets, the, uh, rocker armor for the,
• 40:38
  the, the Jeep, both of those, they have
• 40:40
  pieces that come up to protect the sides,
• 40:43
  uh, front, middle, and behind the door.
• 40:46
  So that's kind of what the rocker guards,
• 40:48
  but they're, they're all part of
• 40:49
  the steps and stuff as well.
• 40:50
  They're, they're gorgeous, but, uh, I
• 40:52
  think they're, they're a lot
• 40:53
  more expensive than what I bought.
• 40:55
  Yeah.
• 40:55
  Usually you got a riven at those on
• 40:57
  probably, I guess it, yeah, I guess
• 40:59
  this depends too on how, how bad you're
• 41:01
  going to beat on it.
• 41:02
  So if you're really hitting it on the
• 41:03
  rocks, you know, some
• 41:05
  of that would be nice,
• 41:06
  but the meek magnet stuff would come in
• 41:07
  really nice, especially if you're
• 41:09
  running like through the Ozarks with all
• 41:11
  the brush and everything, because
• 41:13
  from that standpoint, you know, right
• 41:15
  after mine was repainted, because I
• 41:18
  had some of that corrosion issue, the
• 41:20
  jails had, it was the week after we
• 41:23
  were beaten on it in, uh, the badlands
• 41:26
  with chip and, uh, and Steve-O.
• 41:29
  And all this nice fresh pinstripes on
• 41:31
  that nice fresh paint, the meek magnets
• 41:34
  would have came in handy.
• 41:35
  Well, and that's, you can still get them,
• 41:37
  uh, and cover that up.
• 41:39
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 41:40
  Same thing we were talking about.
• 41:41
  Yeah.
• 41:42
  Same thing we were talking
• 41:43
  about, but I know what you mean.
• 41:44
  I like the idea.
• 41:45
  Now the, the, those covers that, uh, meek
• 41:47
  magnets, uh, that you can put on your,
• 41:49
  uh, your Jeep and bet you somebody else
• 41:51
  makes them, but meek magnets, the one
• 41:53
  I know about, uh, the one I recommend.
• 41:56
  Um, but those, um, it's, uh, it's better
• 41:59
  to have them on before you pinstripe
• 42:01
  because then you can, I mean, if nothing
• 42:03
  else, it's a great for resale value,
• 42:05
  because you can pull those things off or
• 42:07
  you can sell it with the covers.
• 42:09
  Uh, and if they want to take them off,
• 42:10
  they have really a pristine, uh, door
• 42:14
  that, uh, even though it was taken off
• 42:16
  road, it's, it's still pristine.
• 42:17
  Not, well, probably not the whole thing,
• 42:19
  but at least the majority of it.
• 42:21
  Cause I don't think the, the, the, the
• 42:22
  cover covers the entire door.
• 42:24
  I mean, there's an eighth of an inch or
• 42:26
  something there that make it, uh,
• 42:28
  messed up course that you can always do
• 42:29
  touch up paint on that really easily.
• 42:32
  Yeah.
• 42:32
  I think, I think my next piece of armor
• 42:34
  is going to be, I
• 42:36
  need to get the gas tank
• 42:37
  skid because I've been, I've been looking
• 42:39
  at my factory gas tank skid and, uh, it's
• 42:44
  got all kinds of dents and the corners
• 42:46
  are beat, beat in on it.
• 42:49
  And, uh, you're probably
• 42:50
  down to five gallons now.
• 42:52
  It's not quite that bad yet.
• 42:55
  So I run on the underside, I run at
• 42:57
  quadratec, the aluminum skid system.
• 43:01
  And I got the aluminum engine and
• 43:03
  transfer case set up.
• 43:05
  And I need to put that gas tank skid on
• 43:07
  there for the, because it's, it's a
• 43:09
  little bit lighter
• 43:10
  and I've, I've beat the.
• 43:13
  Tarnations out of those skid plates.
• 43:15
  And, uh, so far so good.
• 43:17
  There's aluminum plates have, uh, have
• 43:18
  held up pretty good.
• 43:20
  I'm really, I'm really hoping, I know
• 43:23
  we're not talking about that.
• 43:23
  I know we're not talking about underneath
• 43:24
  skids, but I'm really hoping, uh, before
• 43:27
  EGS 2024, which ever, all you guys are
• 43:30
  invited to come out there and join us.
• 43:32
  Uh, I think it's just fun.
• 43:33
  Uh, it was just great being out there
• 43:35
  with so many Jeep talk show people and
• 43:37
  Jeep talk to team members,
• 43:38
  uh, for my first time there.
• 43:39
  I'm, I'm very anxious to go back.
• 43:41
  But anyway, I'm going to try really hard
• 43:43
  to get the motor belt, uh, skid plate
• 43:45
  system, uh, for the gladiator.
• 43:47
  I just love the way that looks and with
• 43:49
  all the stuff that I, I drug and, and,
• 43:52
  and I didn't drag that much, uh, with,
• 43:54
  uh, with the, the
• 43:55
  mopar lift, the two inch
• 43:57
  mopar lift and 35 inch tires.
• 43:59
  I just, I drug really occasionally, but
• 44:01
  it's still, it still sounds
• 44:03
  scary, doesn't it, Larry?
• 44:04
  Oh yeah.
• 44:05
  Yeah.
• 44:06
  And I remember the first time taking a
• 44:08
  Jeep across that you hear that grind
• 44:10
  it, you know, you just cringe.
• 44:12
  But anymore it's like, all right.
• 44:14
  I didn't hit it.
• 44:14
  It didn't hit it quite as hard.
• 44:16
  I thought I was going to.
• 44:17
  It was like, well, it
• 44:18
  sounded bad, but I'm still going.
• 44:20
  And that was five days ago.
• 44:22
  Everything seems to be fine.
• 44:24
  It's an experience thing.
• 44:25
  Yeah.
• 44:26
  There's nothing wet
• 44:26
  going on behind me there.
• 44:27
  So, hey, we're good.
• 44:28
  Yeah.
• 44:29
  The seat might be a little wet, but
• 44:30
  that's, that's your own problem.
• 44:32
  Yeah.
• 44:34
  Yeah.
• 44:34
  So, uh, really it's just
• 44:36
  kind of a insurance thing.
• 44:37
  Uh, cause I'm thinking that if I'm
• 44:40
  dragging something,
• 44:41
  uh, underneath, and I'm
• 44:42
  not talking about the, the end, cause
• 44:43
  the, the gladiator back of the gladiator
• 44:45
  you're just gonna, you're always going to
• 44:46
  drag on that one, depending on how, uh,
• 44:48
  what kind of ankle
• 44:49
  you're going up or down in.
• 44:51
  Uh, but, um, it, it, I'm not going to
• 44:54
  worry about this, the scraping noise as
• 44:56
  much as if I got that really nice skid
• 44:58
  system underneath the Jeep.
• 45:00
  So would you put a, a separate skid
• 45:02
  system all the way in the back there?
• 45:04
  Cause they make those for the gladiator.
• 45:07
  Oh, I did not know this.
• 45:08
  Yeah.
• 45:09
  I didn't know this.
• 45:09
  Uh, I, my, I might, uh, but with the, the
• 45:13
  motor built bumper I have back there, I
• 45:15
  think that one of those little shovel two
• 45:17
  inch receiver things, uh, would probably
• 45:20
  be the, I probably would go that
• 45:22
  direction before doing any kind of skid
• 45:23
  system, I mean, I'm covered behind the
• 45:25
  bed, you know, that, uh, that little
• 45:27
  critical area of the bed right behind the
• 45:29
  tires that can get crushed.
• 45:31
  I'm protected there.
• 45:32
  Um, the, the bumper
• 45:34
  is, is very heavy duty.
• 45:36
  Uh, I don't see an issue other than, uh,
• 45:39
  the perhaps getting some skids for the
• 45:42
  lower control arms front and rear.
• 45:44
  Yeah.
• 45:44
  We use our trail vice for a rear skid.
• 45:47
  I know you do.
• 45:48
  It's funny seeing that thing.
• 45:50
  I'm going, aren't you worried about it?
• 45:51
  No, it's a, I'm doing product testing.
• 45:54
  Doing product testing.
• 45:56
  We've got a little bit of weld off the
• 45:57
  bottom of that, but that thing, it, it
• 46:01
  supported the weight of that Jeep
• 46:02
  multiple occasions, drag it across the
• 46:05
  rocks, use it as a skid plate.
• 46:08
  So if somebody made a, uh, aluminum, uh,
• 46:12
  body skid system, uh, and maybe that's
• 46:14
  what you're talking about that they do.
• 46:16
  Right.
• 46:16
  But then you have to rivet it, uh, rip
• 46:18
  nut it on or riveted on.
• 46:21
  Would you, would you drill holes in your
• 46:22
  doors and stuff to put that on there?
• 46:24
  Well, if you want it on, you have to.
• 46:26
  Right.
• 46:27
  And then typically that, that is either
• 46:29
  you've hit it a few times or you're
• 46:30
  getting dangerously close with where
• 46:32
  you're at, but that's always the
• 46:34
  problem with that stuff.
• 46:36
  I mean, you got to, that first rivnuts
• 46:40
  gotta be difficult to put in.
• 46:43
  I mean, you got to be sitting there
• 46:44
  looking at that drill and looking at that
• 46:45
  panel thinking, do I, cause once you
• 46:47
  start, you're committed.
• 46:49
  Measure 25 times drill once.
• 46:51
  Yeah.
• 46:53
  Yeah.
• 46:53
  That first one, that's just got to hurt.
• 46:55
  Yeah.
• 46:57
  Yeah.
• 46:59
  I don't know.
• 46:59
  I don't know if I get, I've looked, I
• 47:01
  keep looking at it, but I'm like, well,
• 47:03
  I don't know.
• 47:03
  It's one of those, it'll probably happen
• 47:06
  after I've damaged it.
• 47:07
  Then it's like, well.
• 47:09
  Yeah.
• 47:09
  What does it matter now?
• 47:10
  You know?
• 47:11
  Yeah.
• 47:11
  Nothing will lose at this point.
• 47:12
  Yeah.
• 47:12
  It's cheaper than buying a new door.
• 47:14
  Uh, that probably the
• 47:16
  color won't match anyway.
• 47:17
  But what do you think you would do as far
• 47:19
  as a finish on the panels?
• 47:21
  Would you, would you go
• 47:22
  with a textured panel?
• 47:23
  Uh, or would you go with a smooth one and
• 47:25
  then just not care about the paint
• 47:27
  matching because you know, the paint's
• 47:28
  not going to match if nothing else,
• 47:30
  just the way it lays on the metal is not
• 47:32
  going to match the way
• 47:34
  it lays on the doors.
• 47:35
  I don't know.
• 47:36
  The doors, I don't know.
• 47:38
  I've seen the, the aluminum ones in the
• 47:40
  rear that usually that's where I see it.
• 47:43
  And those actually look pretty good with
• 47:44
  just the raw finish.
• 47:46
  You know, if you just clear it or, or
• 47:48
  just throw some, you
• 47:49
  know, something on us,
• 47:50
  it doesn't corrode too much, but
• 47:52
  utilitarian, I think is
• 47:53
  what, uh, what that is.
• 47:55
  It's there for utility.
• 47:56
  Yeah.
• 47:58
  We're not messing around here.
• 47:59
  We're not trying to get any kind of
• 48:01
  awards for this Jeep where we're
• 48:03
  using it as a Jeep, dammit.
• 48:05
  I've also seen those where they wrap it
• 48:07
  and, uh, doesn't look too bad either.
• 48:11
  Let's get a big band day.
• 48:12
  You know how those things work.
• 48:14
  They're nothing to see here.
• 48:17
  That's what you need is a police type.
• 48:20
  Move along.
• 48:22
  Get a big Duke wrap for
• 48:23
  the back of that section.
• 48:26
  All right.
• 48:27
  Well, uh, yeah, we'll have to find out in
• 48:29
  future episodes, what you
• 48:30
  do about your Jeep armor.
• 48:31
  Um, well, let's talk a little bit about,
• 48:34
  uh, the Mike Latteater update.
• 48:36
  So Larry, you have a cabin
• 48:38
  air filter in your JLU, right?
• 48:41
  Yes.
• 48:41
  Have you ever changed it?
• 48:43
  Multiple times.
• 48:45
  Um, so, um, did you notice anything or
• 48:49
  was it just a maintenance
• 48:50
  side of thing that you just did it read,
• 48:52
  you know, the regular intervals?
• 48:54
  Well, the last time I
• 48:55
  pulled them out, they were red.
• 48:57
  You can guess where that came from.
• 48:59
  Yeah.
• 49:00
  Uh, I've been thinking about changing
• 49:02
  mine because of that same thing.
• 49:04
  Now, um, there's a couple of ways that
• 49:07
  you can go the air
• 49:08
  filter that's in there.
• 49:09
  And by the way, it's
• 49:10
  behind your, um, uh, glove box.
• 49:12
  So you actually have to take
• 49:13
  the glove box out of there.
• 49:15
  Then it's relatively easy
• 49:16
  to take out and put back in.
• 49:18
  Um, but the, um, you know, I was like,
• 49:21
  why don't I, what do I care?
• 49:22
  I mean, I've never had a vehicle that had
• 49:24
  an air filter in it other
• 49:25
  than the, in the engine bay.
• 49:27
  Uh, never had one that I would, you know,
• 49:29
  that had to be
• 49:30
  filtered air for me in the,
• 49:31
  in the cabin.
• 49:33
  Uh, so I did like a little, uh, a little
• 49:34
  research about why I would even
• 49:35
  care about changing the air filter.
• 49:38
  Uh, and the, the, probably the number one
• 49:39
  that I didn't think of,
• 49:40
  cause I don't have allergies is, uh, the,
• 49:43
  the, the, the problem with pollen and
• 49:45
  stuff that comes in from, from outside.
• 49:48
  Uh, now if you don't have them, have
• 49:51
  allergies chances are somebody that
• 49:53
  rides with you does, or somebody that
• 49:55
  will drive your Jeep beside you, uh,
• 49:58
  does have allergies or are you, do you
• 50:00
  have allergies Larry?
• 50:02
  Yeah, I have a few.
• 50:03
  Then we keep up with it.
• 50:06
  And for no other reason, if, if you're on
• 50:09
  the road a lot, which I am, it does
• 50:12
  make the drive a little bit nicer.
• 50:15
  Yeah.
• 50:15
  You know, how do you notice it?
• 50:18
  Well, I can tell typically when it's, uh,
• 50:22
  when they're plugging up, it doesn't feel
• 50:24
  like I get much airflow through, through
• 50:26
  the, through the cabin itself.
• 50:27
  Right.
• 50:28
  Yeah.
• 50:28
  Do you notice any kind of
• 50:29
  a cooling or heating issue?
• 50:31
  I want to really start
• 50:32
  getting a plugged up.
• 50:34
  Yeah.
• 50:34
  The, usually it just, because the system
• 50:37
  just doesn't blow very hard.
• 50:39
  So, uh, that's the other thing I had here
• 50:41
  on my list is reduce heating and cooling.
• 50:43
  Uh, and, uh, it's always possible that,
• 50:47
  uh, you're making that, uh, motor work
• 50:49
  harder, the, the blower motor work harder
• 50:52
  because it's trying to push air through
• 50:53
  there and the longer you go without
• 50:55
  changing that, that, uh, filter that's
• 50:57
  clogged up, uh, the more than more likely
• 51:00
  that the fan motor is going to
• 51:02
  get hot and stop working.
• 51:04
  I mean, anything you can do to make it
• 51:06
  easier on that fan motor,
• 51:08
  I think will be better.
• 51:09
  Uh, of course you could always
• 51:10
  remove the filter altogether.
• 51:11
  And then, uh, it's really gonna let the
• 51:13
  fan motor go, but
• 51:15
  you're not going to have
• 51:16
  the allergy protection
• 51:17
  that you would normally get.
• 51:19
  Uh, of course, if you're out at Easter
• 51:20
  Jeep Safari, you still get that red
• 51:22
  dust all in the vehicle, but that's
• 51:24
  because you get the windows down or the
• 51:25
  doors off, right?
• 51:26
  Right.
• 51:26
  Oh, exactly.
• 51:28
  And the other part of it is these
• 51:30
  vehicles aren't cheap.
• 51:31
  You know, we're not
• 51:32
  buying $10,000 Jeeps anymore.
• 51:33
  So when you're, when you're buying a
• 51:35
  Jeep, you're in it, $50, $90,000
• 51:38
  depending on what you buy.
• 51:39
  Mm-hmm.
• 51:41
  So you might as well take care of it.
• 51:42
  So, uh, the, from what I looked up, I
• 51:45
  didn't look up, look
• 51:46
  this up in the manual
• 51:47
  or anything, but apparently the
• 51:48
  recommended, uh, filter
• 51:50
  changes every 20,000 miles.
• 51:52
  Is that, is that what you know, Larry, or
• 51:54
  how many miles do you go?
• 51:56
  Yeah, usually it's
• 51:57
  probably around 50 ish.
• 51:58
  I think I've changed it three times ish
• 52:01
  on my Jeep and I've got
• 52:02
  almost a little over 125 on it.
• 52:05
  Mm-hmm.
• 52:06
  So.
• 52:07
  Do, uh, do you just use a, uh, I don't
• 52:10
  want to say cloth,
• 52:10
  but like a fabric type,
• 52:12
  like a, you know, like, like the standard
• 52:14
  ones that are in the air filters under
• 52:16
  the hood, is that the
• 52:17
  kind of that you use?
• 52:19
  Yeah.
• 52:19
  So I typically buy the Wix, the Wix brand
• 52:22
  ones and throw them in there and, uh,
• 52:25
  you know, they're not
• 52:26
  washable or anything like that.
• 52:27
  So I just pull them out, throw them away
• 52:29
  and put the new ones in.
• 52:31
  Cool.
• 52:32
  Uh, oh, and is washable
• 52:33
  anything like washing them?
• 52:35
  But all things where you're from.
• 52:38
  So did you do any looks, uh, for the, the
• 52:41
  ones that you can, uh, wash and, uh,
• 52:44
  replace like I saw the, the K and N, uh,
• 52:47
  premium cabin air filter, uh, washable,
• 52:51
  clean air flow for your cabin designed,
• 52:53
  uh, for the Wrangler JL and a gladiator.
• 52:57
  Yeah, I guess I've never really kind of
• 52:59
  went with the whole, uh, replacement
• 53:01
  filter thing at all, whether it's under
• 53:03
  the hood or anywhere else.
• 53:05
  You know, it's, everybody's got their,
• 53:08
  uh, their thought on that.
• 53:09
  And I've never, I've
• 53:10
  never went that route.
• 53:11
  Not that it's a bad thing.
• 53:12
  It's just never did.
• 53:15
  I just don't, if it's every 20,000 miles
• 53:18
  or more, I have a hard time justifying
• 53:21
  the cost because I looked up and it, uh,
• 53:24
  the, the Amazon recommended is the pure
• 53:26
  flow, uh, cabin air filter, uh, for the,
• 53:29
  the Wrangler and the gladiator.
• 53:31
  It's a, it's $19 and 86 cents.
• 53:34
  Uh, and I mean, if you got to do that
• 53:36
  every 20,000 miles, I've got 17,000
• 53:39
  miles on my 2021 gladiator.
• 53:42
  Now, I think that's a bit unusual, but,
• 53:44
  um, it's, uh, it's, it's, it's,
• 53:47
  this 20 bucks every gosh, two or three
• 53:50
  years, probably, I mean, 20,000 miles.
• 53:52
  You would figure you go at least a year
• 53:55
  and a half, uh, for, for regular driving.
• 53:58
  I think normal driving is around 12 K a
• 54:00
  year, at least that's what they
• 54:02
  think when you lease a vehicle.
• 54:03
  Uh, it's not often necessarily true.
• 54:06
  Uh, but the K and N premium cabin air
• 54:08
  filter is $63 and 99
• 54:11
  cents also on Amazon.
• 54:12
  Yeah.
• 54:13
  Now I will say this, um, I did go, uh,
• 54:18
  more expensive for air
• 54:21
  filters for the house.
• 54:23
  Uh, I think that the air filters that we
• 54:25
  have for up, upstairs and downstairs kind
• 54:27
  of have a little bit of a strange
• 54:29
  dimension and they're kind of pricey.
• 54:32
  Uh, so I got ones that were just like
• 54:35
  metal wire that you can clean.
• 54:38
  And, uh, so you don't have to keep buying
• 54:41
  air filters and replacing them.
• 54:42
  Now the air filters, uh, the fiberglass
• 54:45
  or whatever it's in there, those are a
• 54:47
  lot easier to change
• 54:48
  because there's no cleaning.
• 54:49
  There's no, uh, the wife asking, what is
• 54:51
  this stuff on the ground outside?
• 54:53
  Oh, that's, uh, that's dead skin, dear.
• 54:57
  Nice.
• 54:58
  Yeah.
• 54:58
  So, uh, there's a little bit of work, but
• 55:01
  it's, I think it's a great cost savings.
• 55:03
  So I would say that it's a good idea to
• 55:06
  go with the, the K and N because you
• 55:08
  can wash it and reuse it, but I don't
• 55:11
  know how much money it would save you.
• 55:12
  Uh, but because these are other air
• 55:15
  filters, aren't that expensive?
• 55:17
  Yeah.
• 55:18
  Maybe if you're doing it under the hood,
• 55:20
  where you're going to do it more
• 55:21
  frequently, but yeah, I don't know.
• 55:24
  I guess that typically what I'll do is
• 55:26
  about 20, 25,000 miles ish.
• 55:29
  I'll buy a set of those.
• 55:30
  I'll buy a new, uh,
• 55:32
  filter for the engine.
• 55:34
  Just change it both out.
• 55:35
  And that's a good idea.
• 55:37
  And it's looked pretty simple removing
• 55:38
  that glove compartment and
• 55:40
  getting to the filter, right?
• 55:42
  Yeah.
• 55:42
  You can hold, you can do with one hand
• 55:44
  while you film with the
• 55:45
  other might have done it.
• 55:47
  Would you say a 15, 15
• 55:49
  minute job is about what that is?
• 55:51
  Yeah.
• 55:52
  That's if you were sleeping.
• 55:54
  Yeah, it's, it's, it's pretty easy.
• 55:56
  And it gets the heart and it's simple.
• 55:59
  Yeah.
• 55:59
  The hardest part of that is if your glove
• 56:01
  box is just jam packed full of, of just
• 56:03
  junk, that's, that's the
• 56:05
  biggest job of it right there.
• 56:06
  Yeah.
• 56:07
  Where are you going to put all that stuff
• 56:08
  and where are you going to find
• 56:09
  it to put it all back in there?
• 56:10
  Oh, and not only find it, they put it
• 56:12
  back in there, but
• 56:13
  actually get it positioned
• 56:14
  the same way it was so you
• 56:15
  could close the damn thing.
• 56:16
  Right.
• 56:18
  There's where all the
• 56:18
  labor is at right there.
• 56:21
  Well, that's our
• 56:21
  gladiator update for this episode.
• 56:23
  Hopefully, uh, if you haven't been
• 56:25
  thinking about your
• 56:26
  cabin air filter like me, uh,
• 56:28
  you'll think about it now and find that
• 56:31
  it's very easy to change and hopefully,
• 56:33
  uh, you'll actually notice it.
• 56:34
  I'm going to change mine, uh, very soon
• 56:37
  since I did this, uh, the research for
• 56:39
  this and I'll let you know, I'll put
• 56:40
  posting some pictures up of, uh, the big
• 56:43
  red spot that I'm sure is
• 56:44
  there from, uh, PJS 2023.
• 56:50
  From the mind of Nicky G.
• 56:54
  Hey, this is Nicky G and you mentioned
• 56:57
  that Ford selling the, uh, F one 50
• 57:01
  lightning at a 40% loss, and
• 57:04
  that gives me a great idea.
• 57:06
  If everybody goes out and buys an F one
• 57:09
  50 lightning, it will drive forward
• 57:12
  into bankruptcy and then we can go buy F
• 57:15
  two fifties at the closeout sale.
• 57:18
  Well, that's not why I'm calling.
• 57:20
  I'm calling to ask what the heck was the
• 57:23
  first guy who milked a cow trying to do
• 57:27
  when he discovered you
• 57:28
  can get milk from a cow?
• 57:31
  All right, boys and
• 57:33
  girls, I'll catch you later.
• 57:34
  Can you have a good one?
• 57:35
  Bye.
• 57:38
  He's got a valid point there.
• 57:41
  I asked my wife sometimes when we were
• 57:43
  eating various things, especially
• 57:44
  vegetables, uh, and potatoes,
• 57:46
  potatoes grow on the ground.
• 57:48
  Who dug the thing out of the ground and
• 57:50
  went, Hmm, that looks tasty.
• 57:52
  Looks like a rock.
• 57:53
  Hey, Billy, come here.
• 57:59
  Yeah, exactly.
• 58:01
  Try this.
• 58:02
  Yeah.
• 58:04
  So in the, this week's must
• 58:06
  have stuff pick for your Jeep.
• 58:08
  Uh, gonna be talking
• 58:10
  about the Jeep Cherokee.
• 58:12
  No, not that one.
• 58:13
  The XJ, you know, the one that they made
• 58:15
  3 million of and had the
• 58:18
  4.0 4.0 liter engine.
• 58:20
  Yeah, I know there's some of them had the
• 58:21
  2.5, but we're not
• 58:22
  going to talk about that.
• 58:23
  That's like the bastard child.
• 58:25
  Um, so, uh, one of the things I did on my
• 58:28
  XJ a long time ago, when
• 58:30
  led prices really came down, I started
• 58:32
  replacing all the incandescents on
• 58:35
  my, uh, my Cherokee with LEDs.
• 58:38
  Uh, they were brighter.
• 58:39
  They were much less power consumption on
• 58:42
  them and, uh, they just, they just
• 58:44
  made it a more modern vehicle.
• 58:46
  Well, uh, I found recently that, uh, even
• 58:50
  though, uh, what I did was I bought
• 58:52
  one, a little led bulb to go in the same
• 58:54
  place that the incandescent one went in.
• 58:56
  Uh, they actually have full replacement
• 58:58
  side marker lights that are led.
• 59:01
  And it's a strip, a line of LEDs.
• 59:04
  So not only do you get that one little
• 59:06
  point of bright light, and then the, the
• 59:08
  rest of it kind of shines into the rest
• 59:10
  of the, the not bezel, but the
• 59:12
  refractive light thing, this one will
• 59:14
  give you a nice bright line.
• 59:16
  And the more people that can see you, see
• 59:18
  you while you're driving around at
• 59:20
  night or in a bad weather, rain, and so
• 59:22
  on and so forth, I think the better.
• 59:24
  These things, uh, amber led front side
• 59:27
  marker lights, it's for the 97 through
• 59:29
  2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ, uh, and it's
• 59:33
  basically the front bumper side corner
• 59:35
  markers, uh, turn signal lights, uh, pair
• 59:38
  of them $30 and 99 cents.
• 59:41
  I mean, modernize your XJ and maybe
• 59:44
  you've done the same thing.
• 59:45
  You've put those little led bulbs, uh, in
• 59:47
  there to replacing the incandescents.
• 59:49
  But this is like the next step.
• 59:51
  This is like, um,
• 59:52
  more modern day looking.
• 59:54
  I like them.
• 59:55
  I mean, I haven't driven my
• 59:56
  XJ since I got my gladiator.
• 59:58
  I still want to buy these things.
• 1:00:01
  I'm going to, how many people out there
• 1:00:02
  with an XJ can still get those lights in
• 1:00:04
  there, oh, just to be, just from being
• 1:00:07
  hit and beat on in the trail.
• 1:00:08
  Oh yeah.
• 1:00:09
  I see what you mean.
• 1:00:09
  But did you know that, uh, I've seen
• 1:00:11
  reports that incandescent bulbs are now
• 1:00:13
  illegal to buy in the United States.
• 1:00:16
  I can only guess where.
• 1:00:18
  They just don't like it.
• 1:00:19
  Uh, I guess cause the energy type thing,
• 1:00:21
  but pretty soon all the gas
• 1:00:23
  stoves and, uh, uh, gas dryers and all
• 1:00:26
  that stuff, wouldn't that be funny?
• 1:00:29
  The bulbs aren't carb compliant.
• 1:00:31
  Yeah.
• 1:00:31
  Wouldn't that be funny if, uh, if it did
• 1:00:33
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