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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, let's bring in our WOR White House correspondent
- 0:07Speaker 1: and Washington correspondent John Decker, because there's so much going
- 0:11Speaker 1: on right now. Of course, we have a new government
- 0:14Speaker 1: coming in. We have J.D. Vance also getting out there
- 0:18Speaker 1: talking about what was the cause of the Republicans losing
- 0:23Speaker 1: in a landslide. And you have the president. that was
- 0:27Speaker 1: out in front of the construction of the ballroom, very
- 0:31Speaker 1: oddly happy yesterday considering what happened.
- 0:34Speaker 2: And you know, I'm going to do a complete pirouette
- 0:37Speaker 2: on this because I was very critical of all the
- 0:40Speaker 2: self-improvements for D.C. that the president is engaged in. He
- 0:45Speaker 2: said this relaxes me. And the president is better when
- 0:49Speaker 2: he's relaxed than when he's aplactic. But I think we
- 0:53Speaker 2: got John Decker on the line now. We do have
- 0:56Speaker 2: John Decker on the line. And since you started off
- 1:00Speaker 2: with that, let's ask John Decker about it. John, were
- 1:03Speaker 2: you out there by the construction site with the president yesterday?
- 1:07Speaker 3: No, I wasn't in the pool yesterday. I was watching
- 1:10Speaker 3: it in real time. And it was the president initially
- 1:15Speaker 3: not speaking about the The elephant in the room, and
- 1:18Speaker 3: that is the historic losses that Republicans suffered in the
- 1:21Speaker 3: midterm elections on Tuesday. The president did take questions on
- 1:25Speaker 3: that ultimately, but he really wanted to talk about all
- 1:28Speaker 3: the progress that has been made concerning his ballroom more
- 1:31Speaker 3: than anything else.
- 1:32Speaker 2: But, John, you know me, I've been very critical about
- 1:36Speaker 2: not just the ballroom, but all the other fixing up
- 1:39Speaker 2: in D.C. When he said to the gathered press, you know,
- 1:44Speaker 2: this relaxes me. I said to myself, John, I'm in
- 1:48Speaker 2: favor of this now because when Trump is relaxed, he's
- 1:52Speaker 2: really good. When he's aplectic, he's over the top. He's
- 1:55Speaker 2: out of control.
- 1:56Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:58Speaker 3: I never thought about it that way.
- 2:01Speaker 1: You might be right.
- 2:02Speaker 3: But look, it is something that is ongoing. Every day
- 2:07Speaker 3: that I enter into the White House complex, I look
- 2:10Speaker 3: around and I see all of the projects that the
- 2:13Speaker 3: president has either completed or or that are ongoing, and
- 2:17Speaker 3: you can't miss them. I mean, he really has made
- 2:19Speaker 3: his mark in just two years at the White House
- 2:22Speaker 3: with beautification projects that will last well beyond his presidency.
- 2:27Speaker 3: But that being said, there are other big problems that
- 2:30Speaker 3: the president is dealing with, and the problems start with
- 2:33Speaker 3: the war in Iran. They continue with the affordability issue,
- 2:37Speaker 3: which isn't going away, and those are the big issues
- 2:41Speaker 3: that the president will have to contend with for the
- 2:43Speaker 3: remainder of his presidency.
- 2:45Speaker 1: It was interesting yesterday, almost immediately, Burnham in Great Britain
- 2:50Speaker 1: and also a spokesperson for the EU was out in
- 2:54Speaker 1: front talking about how they hope that the United States'
- 3:00Speaker 1: attitudes towards Ukraine change after this. So it was fascinating
- 3:06Speaker 1: to me because it seems like that was the most
- 3:09Speaker 1: important thing for them. They came out and actually made
- 3:12Speaker 1: statements to the media yesterday. Do you think that's going
- 3:17Speaker 1: to happen, that the attitudes toward Ukraine are going to
- 3:20Speaker 1: change because the Democrats took over?
- 3:24Speaker 3: You know, I think that what we saw yesterday from
- 3:27Speaker 3: the incoming Speaker of the House, Hakeem Jeffries, talking about
- 3:31Speaker 3: the focus for Democrats once they take over. The focus,
- 3:35Speaker 3: he says, in terms of legislation is going to be affordability.
- 3:39Speaker 3: But there certainly are members of Congress of both political
- 3:44Speaker 3: parties that want to increase America's commitment, its resolve in
- 3:49Speaker 3: terms of supporting Ukraine. And I think that's going to
- 3:51Speaker 3: come out. I think there are certain Republicans that during
- 3:55Speaker 3: the course of the president's first two years in office
- 3:58Speaker 3: were reluctant to speak out, to defy the president. And
- 4:01Speaker 3: I think you're going to see more of that. And
- 4:03Speaker 3: that indeed could put pressure on the president. He's the
- 4:05Speaker 3: decision maker, however. He's the person who speaks on behalf
- 4:09Speaker 3: of America, on behalf of our foreign policy. So it's
- 4:12Speaker 3: really up to the president in terms of whether to
- 4:15Speaker 3: increase that commitment.
- 4:16Speaker 2: John Decker, I have a way that the president who
- 4:20Speaker 2: said there were some subjects he would be open to
- 4:22Speaker 2: sitting down and have conversations with Democratic leadership. Immigration was one,
- 4:27Speaker 2: a few others. Remember in that first term, He was
- 4:31Speaker 2: sitting in the Oval Office. He had Pelosi to his
- 4:35Speaker 2: right with Schumer, and he had McConnell and Paul Ryan
- 4:38Speaker 2: to his left. He was ignoring McConnell and Paul Ryan
- 4:41Speaker 2: to their distress. He was so happy with Schumer and
- 4:44Speaker 2: Pelosi because they were within millimeters of getting a deal
- 4:49Speaker 2: on the Dreamers, which suddenly fell apart. I think if
- 4:53Speaker 2: he were to revive that and sit with all four
- 4:57Speaker 2: of the leaders now and then look to Chuck, you know,
- 4:59Speaker 2: New Yorker to New Yorker and say, Chuck, there's one
- 5:02Speaker 2: thing we have in common. We're both hated in New York.
- 5:04Speaker 2: You're the most hated Democrat. I'm the most hated Republican.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Let me give you a gift. The dreamers. You go
- 5:11Speaker 2: back with that. All of a sudden you'll be king
- 5:13Speaker 2: for a day. And that will show that the president.
- 5:16Speaker 2: is really trying to negotiate some things that should have
- 5:21Speaker 2: been already in place.
- 5:26Speaker 3: President, initially in the first 24 hours after having those
- 5:31Speaker 3: results sink in, did speak about an area he believes
- 5:35Speaker 3: of common ground. And he actually did mention, to your point,
- 5:38Speaker 3: he mentioned immigration, which is pretty interesting. Usually the area
- 5:42Speaker 3: that comes to mind when you think of bipartisanship and
- 5:44Speaker 3: common ground is infrastructure. But the president mentioned immigration. So
- 5:50Speaker 3: maybe we could see that as an area in which
- 5:53Speaker 3: Republicans and Democrats could come together and have some sort
- 5:58Speaker 3: of an agreement. As you know, so many presidents, have
- 6:01Speaker 3: tried moving in this direction before, and they have not
- 6:05Speaker 3: been successful. So maybe the president with this Democratic-controlled Congress
- 6:10Speaker 3: will be successful in moving that kind of measure forward.
- 6:13Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think Curtis has a wonderful idea. I
- 6:16Speaker 1: kind of hope the president or somebody from his staff
- 6:19Speaker 1: is listening this morning, because that would be a wonderful idea,
- 6:22Speaker 1: and it would set an agenda rather than have them
- 6:25Speaker 1: make the agenda themselves. I do know that Jeffries yesterday
- 6:29Speaker 1: had a press conference. The expected incoming speaker and the
- 6:33Speaker 1: expected incoming majority leader in the Senate both said the
- 6:37Speaker 1: same thing. Chuck Schumer said the same thing, that no,
- 6:41Speaker 1: there's none of our members that came forward talking about impeachment.
- 6:45Speaker 1: We're not just going in there with impeachment. It's affordability. Well,
- 6:48Speaker 1: a lot of the Democrats disagreed with that, including the
- 6:52Speaker 1: incoming chairman of the Oversight Committee, Robert Garcia, who tweeted out,
- 6:58Speaker 1: lawyer up. So it seems like there's going to be
- 7:02Speaker 1: some disagreement about going after the administration.
- 7:07Speaker 3: Well, when Congressman Garcia said lawyer up, I think he's
- 7:12Speaker 3: talking about all of the investigations. that will be taking
- 7:16Speaker 3: place with Democrats in control of all of the investigative
- 7:19Speaker 3: committees and oversight committees. And they will be doing investigations
- 7:23Speaker 3: into certain business deals being done by the Trump family
- 7:27Speaker 3: and how it's alleged they've enriched themselves. I don't think
- 7:32Speaker 3: that he was referring, however, to this idea of another
- 7:35Speaker 3: impeachment of President Trump. You know, that was not why
- 7:39Speaker 3: Democrats and independents came together and some Republicans came and
- 7:43Speaker 3: handed the keys over to Democrats to control Congress. It
- 7:46Speaker 3: really was this issue of affordability, high gas prices. I
- 7:51Speaker 3: think that was the overriding issue, and they were not
- 7:54Speaker 3: sending a message to those Democrats that will control Congress.
- 7:58Speaker 3: Now we want you to impeach and remove the president.
- 8:01Speaker 3: I think if Democrats move in that direction, they won't
- 8:05Speaker 3: be holding on to Congress for very long.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Now, John, in this new spirit of being cool, calm,
- 8:10Speaker 2: and collected, the president, was asked yesterday by reporters, did
- 8:14Speaker 2: you okay Vice President J.D. Vance's posting on his social
- 8:19Speaker 2: networking that the war in Iran was a mistake and
- 8:23Speaker 2: that we have to redo our relationship with Israel, which
- 8:26Speaker 2: was really his first semi-official shots for the 2028 nod,
- 8:33Speaker 2: GOP nod to run for president. And the president said, yeah,
- 8:36Speaker 2: he ran it by me. I didn't have a problem
- 8:38Speaker 2: with it. Although later on he went back and he said, no, no, no, no,
- 8:43Speaker 2: if left to do it again, I would have the
- 8:45Speaker 2: war in Iran. Can you explain that?
- 8:49Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think that the president doesn't really
- 8:52Speaker 3: ever go back on the decisions that he makes and
- 8:55Speaker 3: ruminates and considers whether he made the right decision or not.
- 9:00Speaker 3: He feels that his gut has always worked well for him. And,
- 9:04Speaker 3: you know, to a certain extent, you don't win the
- 9:05Speaker 3: presidency twice, by going against your gut. And so the
- 9:11Speaker 3: president has that. Now, as it relates to the vice president,
- 9:15Speaker 3: I think you're right, Curtis. This is the beginnings of J.D.
- 9:21Speaker 3: Vance moving away from President Donald Trump as he embarks
- 9:25Speaker 3: on his own path to the White House for 2028.
- 9:27Speaker 3: And will this be enough? just separating him himself from
- 9:33Speaker 3: the policies of the administration on the war?
- 9:36Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 9:37Speaker 3: I mean, the point person in terms of negotiations to
- 9:40Speaker 3: end the war, it's a guy named J.D. Vance.
- 9:43Speaker 1: And now J.D.
- 9:44Speaker 3: Vance putting out this lengthy social media post saying the
- 9:47Speaker 3: reason we lost is the war. Well, you know, the
- 9:50Speaker 3: vice president has a role in that in the sense
- 9:53Speaker 3: that he traveled all the way to Islamabad, met with
- 9:56Speaker 3: Iranian negotiators for 24 straight hours and came away with nothing.
- 10:01Speaker 3: So that's going to be around his neck as he
- 10:04Speaker 3: considers his run for the presidency in 2028.
- 10:07Speaker 1: You're absolutely right that that was the unofficial start of
- 10:11Speaker 1: the 2028 election, and many of the Democratic governors that
- 10:16Speaker 1: are said to be in the front of the pack
- 10:19Speaker 1: for running for the Democrats, including Shapiro and Moore, who
- 10:23Speaker 1: says he's not running, but we will see. And Pritzer
- 10:26Speaker 1: all won substantial elections, and they were all out there flexing.
- 10:30Speaker 1: But among the Republicans, someone that we kind of forgot
- 10:34Speaker 1: about with the Republican race was DeSantis, who was all
- 10:39Speaker 1: over the place yesterday and was one of the last
- 10:43Speaker 1: standing Republicans. I think he's running.
- 10:47Speaker 3: Oh, he is absolutely 100% running. He won his second term,
- 10:52Speaker 3: as you may recall, by 20 points in the state
- 10:54Speaker 3: of Florida. And, you know, he's carved out this place
- 10:58Speaker 3: for himself. He believes in the Republican Party as someone
- 11:01Speaker 3: who is not afraid of, you know, speaking his mind
- 11:05Speaker 3: in the primary process and in that election in which
- 11:10Speaker 3: he ran against President Donald Trump. He wasn't afraid to
- 11:12Speaker 3: go up against Donald Trump. He lost that nomination. So yeah,
- 11:16Speaker 3: I agree with you, Larry. I think there's no doubt
- 11:18Speaker 3: that he will be among those Republicans seeking the nomination
- 11:21Speaker 3: in 2028.
- 11:22Speaker 1: And he has a good story to tell right now
- 11:24Speaker 1: of being the last man standing among the Republican governors
- 11:27Speaker 1: in the big states.
- 11:29Speaker 3: Well, and it's interesting, Larry, because he may have a
- 11:33Speaker 3: decision to make. And that decision is whether to be
- 11:38Speaker 3: a part of the Trump administration. The reason I say that,
- 11:41Speaker 3: there's talk about Pete Hegseth moving on one way or
- 11:45Speaker 3: the other from his position heading up the Pentagon. And
- 11:48Speaker 3: the name that I hear most often in terms of
- 11:50Speaker 3: replacement for Pete Hegseth is a guy named Governor Ron DeSantis.
- 11:55Speaker 3: So we'll see if that happens.
- 11:56Speaker 1: Oh, he shouldn't take that job. If he wants to
- 11:58Speaker 1: run for president, I think you're right. If he wants
- 12:01Speaker 1: to run for president, he should avoid that job. Thank
- 12:04Speaker 1: you so much, John Decker, WOR White House and Washington
- 12:08Speaker 1: correspondent and host of the podcast, The White House Briefing
- 12:11Speaker 1: Room with John Decker. which can be found on the
- 12:14Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app.