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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Ranking Bryce Among NFL QBs · Mac & Bone Podcast

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Speaker 1: That's right, baby.
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Speaker 2: This Tina Turner anthem was required for our next guest,
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Speaker 2: who is now bone, not just our Iron Man, and
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Speaker 2: he truly is America's long snapper because as of Sunday,
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Speaker 2: he holds the games played from the long snapper position
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Speaker 2: all time the way it should be. Trey Junkin, it's
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Speaker 2: been real. You had a run, baby, but J.J. Jansen
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Speaker 2: has passed you in the way. Why was Trey Junkin
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Speaker 2: not there? You thought there should have been a ceremony
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Speaker 2: involving J.J. and Trey? When McGuire was passing the record
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Speaker 2: in 98. Roger Marris' family was there to salute him.
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Speaker 2: Where was the Junkins? And you are passionate. You believe
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Speaker 2: the Eagles should have stopped that game after J.J.
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Speaker 1: 's first snap. Other moments are stopped. Game ball? How
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Speaker 1: are we doing here?
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Speaker 2: Eagles can't even figure out, Bone, if their player is
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Speaker 2: allowed to sleep 36 hours before a game because he's
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Speaker 2: got blood clots.
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Speaker 1: Holy crap, that's a mess.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, let's bring him on. J.J.
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Speaker 1: Jansen, another record down for J.J. Jansen.
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Speaker 2: J.J., congratulations, brother. What's happening?
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Speaker 3: Well, I want to let you know that they did
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Speaker 3: stop the game after, after I broke the record for
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Speaker 3: two and a half minutes for a Bud Light commercial
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Speaker 3: and I'm sure some gambling website. We'll let you know, every,
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Speaker 3: everything worked out just fine for me.
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Speaker 1: That is hilarious, man. That is hilarious.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 2: So JJ, I I respect the fact when I said, hey,
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Speaker 2: we want to do Snapchats and we want to celebrate you.
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Speaker 2: We want to congratulate you. And I respect the fact
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Speaker 2: you texted back. Let's just talk about the win. You
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Speaker 2: know what I mean? Let's just talk about the win.
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Speaker 2: But I do think it's freaking amazing. that you have
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Speaker 2: done this for this long. And like, we have jokes
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Speaker 2: all the time and I'm sure there's going to be
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Speaker 2: text jokes, all the textures. And I'm sure we might
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Speaker 2: tell some of them in the next 10 minutes as well.
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Speaker 2: But like, it is amazing that you like have wanted
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Speaker 2: to go to training camp this many years, work on it,
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Speaker 2: be in the trenches. Like, I mean, dude, you've got
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Speaker 2: so many things you could do and you will do
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Speaker 2: post football that you don't have to do this stuff, man.
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Speaker 2: Like why, why is it worth it to keep doing
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Speaker 2: this year after year, man?
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Speaker 3: Playing football with your friends is the absolute best. And
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Speaker 3: I have a ton of fun playing the game. Also
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Speaker 3: locker rooms. Anytime you talk to any player that's retired,
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Speaker 3: they all talk about the locker room and the the
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Speaker 3: feelings of being on a team. And yes, when I'm
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Speaker 3: done playing, I'm going to find my team again. There'll
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Speaker 3: be things that I'll be doing and I'm always going
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Speaker 3: to be about being on teams and building teams, but
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Speaker 3: there is nothing better in the world than playing in
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Speaker 3: front of your home crowd. And the only thing that
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Speaker 3: may beat it is what we just did on Sunday,
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Speaker 3: which is go into a hostile environment and No one's
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Speaker 3: rooting for you except for a smattering of whether it's
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Speaker 3: roaring riot or this small smattering of Carolina process blue
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Speaker 3: and quieting an entire crowd over the course of three
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Speaker 3: hours that those two feelings are the best. And so
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Speaker 3: you can't beat this adrenaline rush, but it was, it
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Speaker 3: was a lot of fun. I was glad. I was
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Speaker 3: glad we got it over quickly. We went right down
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Speaker 3: and scored, got, got a big field goal to start
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Speaker 3: the game. And we could go on about our day,
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Speaker 3: which was beating the Eagles and getting the three and two.
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Speaker 2: What's the, what's the key do you think to your
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Speaker 2: longevity in this league?
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Speaker 3: Well, if I'm being completely honest, the Lord has just
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Speaker 3: blessed me tremendously with good health and being a part
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Speaker 3: of an organization that wanted me around. That is not
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Speaker 3: always the case. I've been very fortunate in that regard. I,
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Speaker 3: as we've talked about a few times, I had to
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Speaker 3: navigate a few things a few years back, but other
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Speaker 3: than that, I've been very, very well taken care of
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Speaker 3: by everyone around. I think the other part was I
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Speaker 3: was just really well mentored when I was a young
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Speaker 3: player in terms of what the job required, how to
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Speaker 3: be a professional, not only on the field, but off.
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Speaker 3: And I've done as best I can to, to mirror
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Speaker 3: those things in my own career and then pass that
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Speaker 3: information along to the young guys. I was having a
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Speaker 3: conversation with someone yesterday and I said, my entire career, my, my,
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Speaker 3: teammates have always been 23 to 28 years old. That's,
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Speaker 3: I don't see my teammates as anything different than when
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Speaker 3: I was.
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Speaker 1: A young player.
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Speaker 3: It's just, they view me very differently because we've got
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Speaker 3: an older family and older kids, but it's been fun
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Speaker 3: as the years have gone on. I get to do
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Speaker 3: more of the teaching and mentoring and be a part
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Speaker 3: of the, the veteran leadership of the group.
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Speaker 2: Somebody tipped us off, by the way, on this South Park. See,
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Speaker 2: I didn't see this. This is from like three weeks ago.
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Speaker 2: South Park Magazine story about J.J. written by Ron Green,
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Speaker 2: the great Ron Green Jr. This is like when Coach
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Speaker 2: K got in the Garden Magazine. So I start reading
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Speaker 2: about it. I didn't know the thing about Charlie Weiss,
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Speaker 2: your coach at Notre Dame, was the first person to
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Speaker 2: make it clear to you, like, dude, you're good enough
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Speaker 2: to do this in the NFL. But my favorite part, JJ,
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Speaker 2: is when you, and I don't know, I don't think
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Speaker 2: you told us this, where you say Nick Scorton came
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Speaker 2: up to you last year and said, how old are you?
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Speaker 2: You said 39. And he says, damn, my mom's younger
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Speaker 2: than you are.
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Speaker 3: Speaker 0 5,000 I think there were a few Mr.
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Speaker 3: Jansen's and sirs in there too, which made me feel
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Speaker 3: particularly old. Yeah, that was, that was a new one. I,
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Speaker 3: you know, there's a few milestones as you get older
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Speaker 3: in the league. The first is typically you're playing for
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Speaker 3: coaches that are younger than you. The second one is
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Speaker 3: you're playing with the sons of people you played against
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Speaker 3: earlier in your career, but that one was an all
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Speaker 3: time milestone. You are older than players parents. That was
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Speaker 3: a new one for me. And, but, but again, Nick
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Speaker 3: is such an awesome kid that he was incredibly respectful,
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Speaker 3: which actually made it worse. Nice to me about it
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Speaker 3: actually felt like he was cutting me even deeper.
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Speaker 2: JJ, one of the storylines the other day that we've
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Speaker 2: talked a lot about was the return of Taylor Moten.
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Speaker 2: What did you think of him coming back and not
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Speaker 2: missing a beat? And just from your perspective, Taylor Moten,
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Speaker 2: the person and what he means to the Panther organization?
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Speaker 3: Well, it was awesome. You know, the special thing about
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Speaker 3: Taylor is he doesn't say a whole lot. He is
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Speaker 3: incredibly consistent in his work ethic. And then for just
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Speaker 3: about every game of his career, you sort of forget
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Speaker 3: that he's out there because he does his job so well,
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Speaker 3: something that I hopefully can appreciate. You don't really want
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Speaker 3: to notice if your right tackle is out there a
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Speaker 3: whole lot. Same with the left tackle. if they're just
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Speaker 3: shutting people down and there isn't a lot of noise
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Speaker 3: over in their area, that's a good thing. And of course,
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Speaker 3: coming off the bench after three months and blood clots
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Speaker 3: and the whole thing, of course he draws Jalen Carter and,
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Speaker 3: and that pass rush. And he just did an awesome job.
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Speaker 3: a model of consistency. He's become the grandpa of the
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Speaker 3: locker room. He's the one telling us to pick up
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Speaker 3: our mess. And it's a good thing. I don't have
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Speaker 3: to do that. Those grandpa duties. That's more of a
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Speaker 3: Taylor Moten thing, but it's so good to have one
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Speaker 3: of our leaders, one of our captains, one of our
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Speaker 3: guys back with us. It's a stabilizing force for the
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Speaker 3: offense and the offensive line for sure.
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Speaker 2: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>.
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Speaker 3: <HAL> I haven't seen him yet today, but we will
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Speaker 3: let him know. It's the happiest of birthdays. For those
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Speaker 3: that don't know, we often give a happy birthday shout-out
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Speaker 3: to Taylor Moten. So he's had about 500 of those
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Speaker 3: over the course of his career.
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Speaker 2: I love that bit. Jalen Phillips did it behind him
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Speaker 2: in the locker room during an interview the other day.
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Speaker 2: I love that bit.
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Speaker 3: J.J.
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Speaker 2: Jansen with us, talking about a big Panthers win to
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Speaker 2: get over 500, game-and-a-half lead in the division, of course.
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Speaker 2: Talking about his record-setting day. Let's talk about another one
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Speaker 2: of your teammates, Tommy Tremble. What a game he had.
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Speaker 2: And the touchdown catches were nice. They were awesome. But
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Speaker 2: I loved the catch he had on the sideline there.
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Speaker 2: where he was fighting like he wasn't getting dinner if
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Speaker 2: he didn't get that first down. He got really close
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Speaker 2: to it. I want to talk about some of the blocks.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that block he had on Chuba's fourth and
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Speaker 2: one run, the block, dude, the block he had on
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Speaker 2: Cooper Dejean, where he just planted him with all his
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Speaker 2: body weight into the turf in Philly. Like, how nasty,
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Speaker 2: how savage is Tommy Tremble, man?
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Speaker 3: Well, the first thing I have to say is, everyone
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Speaker 3: should get somebody that blocks for you the way that
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Speaker 3: Tommy blocks for tuba. Those two are two peas in
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Speaker 3: a pod. But if we, we should tell Tommy, no
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Speaker 3: matter what the play that you was getting the ball,
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Speaker 3: that is number one. If Chuba's got the ball, Tommy
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Speaker 3: is going to go murder somebody on the other side
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Speaker 3: of the field. So there's a, there's a special bond
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Speaker 3: between those two. And you know, They pro they provide
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Speaker 3: so much energy on the field. You see it. It's infectious.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, Tommy is hitting people so hard
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Speaker 3: that Felipe Franks has got to get into the action
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Speaker 3: and Felipe inadvertently hits Tommy.
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Speaker 2: Oh my hit him hard too. That was crazy.
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Speaker 4: Standard.
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Speaker 3: That's the standard that guys like Tommy are setting that
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Speaker 3: the tight end room is just hitting everybody, including their
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Speaker 3: own people. So that's how those guys roll, which is awesome. Tommy,
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Speaker 3: you had a fantastic day. As anyone that has watched
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Speaker 3: our team closely, that has always been him. and where
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Speaker 3: I think he's been underappreciated by the fan base for
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Speaker 3: a long time is he does so many things for
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Speaker 3: our team, multiple phases of special teams. He's in line.
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Speaker 3: He's off the ball. He's in the backfield, like a fullback.
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Speaker 3: We ask him to be our Swiss army knife when
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Speaker 3: it comes to, uh, blocking and receiving. You can call
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Speaker 3: him a fullback. Sometimes he's sometimes the tight end. He's
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Speaker 3: great in space. He certainly has jumped over every corner
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Speaker 3: that's ever tried to tackle him low. And he just
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Speaker 3: provides such an infectious energy for us on the field,
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Speaker 3: in the, in the huddle downfield. He's awesome. And you know, it's,
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Speaker 3: it's fun that he was able to also celebrate with
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Speaker 3: a couple of touchdowns, but like you said, that play
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Speaker 3: on the sideline fighting for every extra yard, knowing the
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Speaker 3: game situations, And that's just Tommy Tremble to a tee.
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Speaker 2: JJ, at this stage of the franchise's growth and rise,
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Speaker 2: how important is it to win games when not everything's
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Speaker 2: going your way? There's a lot of penalties. It's not
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Speaker 2: your best day. But winning in different ways, how important
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Speaker 2: is that for the future of this franchise?
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Speaker 3: I think it was fantastic. And, and, you know, it
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Speaker 3: was just one of those games when it came to
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Speaker 3: the penalties, there was, there were some silly mistakes and whatnot.
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Speaker 3: I'm convinced that those officials all had a late flight,
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Speaker 3: so they could throw as many flags as they wanted.
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Speaker 3: They were throwing stuff left, right? Both teams. It just
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Speaker 3: felt like one of those days. We certainly were, we
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Speaker 3: were certainly committing fouls. There's no doubt about it, but
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Speaker 3: sometimes you're just in one of these types of games
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Speaker 3: where things get a little physical and then the officials
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Speaker 3: start getting ticky tack. They had a lot of fouls too.
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Speaker 3: I know we've, we've set some records, which isn't necessarily
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Speaker 3: something you want to do, but when you're controlling the
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Speaker 3: game and controlling physicality, you'd maybe take a little of
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Speaker 3: the good with the bad. I, although I gotta be honest,
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Speaker 3: will Lee, there's no penalty for panting. So I think
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Speaker 3: that one should have been called off. There's no foul
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Speaker 3: against that. So again, sometimes these officials just get a
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Speaker 3: little flag happy. There's no rules against that. I, I,
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Speaker 3: I think it's good to win ugly. I think it's
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Speaker 3: good to win clean. The reality is in the NFL,
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Speaker 3: every single game is hard. And we see it every Sunday.
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Speaker 3: Good teams we think are good lose to teams we
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Speaker 3: think are bad. Every game is a battle. And so
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Speaker 3: to go on the road in Philadelphia against that team,
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Speaker 3: and especially that defense in particular, and play well, score
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Speaker 3: 25 points. And really, it felt like we were in
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Speaker 3: control of the game the whole time. That was what
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Speaker 3: was most encouraging. We'll have plenty of stuff to clean up.
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Speaker 3: A lot of the penalties, sometimes it's mental mistakes, sometimes
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Speaker 3: it's technique. And then sometimes it's just the officials get
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Speaker 3: a little flag happy. And I think there was a
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Speaker 3: little bit of all three of those on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: Do you know, you now play for the Carolina Panthers?
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Speaker 4: Me?
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Speaker 3: What'd I say?
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Speaker 1: That's good.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm saying the pants, Will Lee pants in Goddard.
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Speaker 2: The Carolina Pantsers. New branding, baby. I missed it. It
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Speaker 2: was very highbrow humor.
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Speaker 3: I'm older than some people's parents.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to keep it to us young folk,
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Speaker 2: those kind of hip jokes. Jeff DeBray's fan, two texts here.
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Speaker 2: He says, first one is, one's a legitimate question. We'll
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Speaker 2: get to that in a second. His first one, his
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Speaker 2: first one is, is JJ kidding? The Panthers will have
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Speaker 2: to get a restraining order against him to keep him
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Speaker 2: away from the team at some point. And then his question,
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Speaker 2: his question is, what did JJ think about Felipe Frank's
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Speaker 2: near clothesline? And I don't even know if that was near,
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Speaker 2: that might've been a clothesline. And the best part about
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Speaker 2: it on the coverage team, the play he made is
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Speaker 2: that two dudes were blocking him. And he fought off
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Speaker 2: two dudes blocks to make that freaking play ridiculous.
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, that, that was a fantastic play that got, that,
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Speaker 3: that got under, underappreciated in large part because there was
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Speaker 3: a foul. Rochelle was downfield. He got blocked in the back.
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Speaker 3: So that, or maybe it was a whole, so that
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Speaker 3: play was going back. Anyways, So after Thomas income got
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Speaker 3: injured in the game, they were trying to figure out
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Speaker 3: who to double Thomas TI, as we call him, it
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Speaker 3: was catching all their attention. So they turned their attention
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Speaker 3: to the Felipe. And let me tell you, whenever the
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Speaker 3: other team turns their attentions to Felipe, he's not only
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Speaker 3: going to beat them. He's going to tell them about
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Speaker 3: it and then they'll make the play. So we watched
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Speaker 3: that one on film. That is a full on clothesline
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Speaker 3: while he's being held. in a double team. And nobody
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Speaker 3: was happier than Ryan Fitzgerald, who let's just say, we
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Speaker 3: all agreed. We were lucky that we were all wearing
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Speaker 3: dark pants because the R the return man was running
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Speaker 3: right at Ryan. And there was a lot of white
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Speaker 3: flashing before his eyes. So Felipe not only did it,
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Speaker 3: did a great job for us, but he protected our
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Speaker 3: kicker from having to get engaged in any sort of tackle.
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Speaker 3: So hats off to Felipe. He hits their team. He
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Speaker 3: hits our team. He's just a flying missile, and that's
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Speaker 3: why we love him.
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Speaker 2: That shot on Tremble, I couldn't believe how hard he
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Speaker 2: hit his own guy. Friendly fire. All right, last thing.
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Speaker 2: 704 number says, as a fellow Golden Domer, can JJ
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Speaker 2: please light up the Big 12 officials and their replay officials?
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's that big of a deal. I'm just,
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Speaker 3: I'm just waiting for the last second of the game
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Speaker 3: to be played. This will all be figured out quite,
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Speaker 3: quite easily. Once we go back to Provo to play
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Speaker 3: the last second, I'm assuming there was just like a
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Speaker 3: lightning delay or something's going on that just pause the
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Speaker 3: game briefly. I don't understand why, in college football, or
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Speaker 3: I don't think we've had as many issues in the NFL,
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Speaker 3: how they, the clock stuff is getting so messed up. I,
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Speaker 3: it'd be, it's beyond me, but, but look, it, that
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Speaker 3: was a, that was an awesome environment. It was a
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Speaker 3: great game. We did not play our best brand of
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Speaker 3: football for the majority of the game. And yet we
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Speaker 3: still had a shot and, and really should have had
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Speaker 3: one more shot at it, but hats off to BYU.
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Speaker 3: They're a very good football team as well. I think
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Speaker 3: I've now, said all the niceties I have to say
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Speaker 3: for Brady Christensen. So at that point, forget about BYU
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Speaker 3: and we're on to next week, but it was a
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Speaker 3: good game. And when we finish it, it will be
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Speaker 3: even better.
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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.
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Speaker 2: All right, JJ, appreciate you, brother. Congrats again. Keep wrecking
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Speaker 2: up these records and the winds too, man.
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Speaker 1: Good luck against Tampa.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I think we're out of records. It's
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Speaker 3: just over now.
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Speaker 1: Oh, we'll find one.
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Speaker 2: No, you, I want you to be the player that
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Speaker 2: plays the most games in NFL history. You're like 23rd now,
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Speaker 2: I think. I need you to get to number one, JJ.
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Speaker 4: Who's number one?
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Speaker 3: Do we know?
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Speaker 2: I saw the list over the weekend, but I didn't
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Speaker 2: really look.
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Speaker 3: Probably Morton Anderson. It's probably Morton Anderson.
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Speaker 1: All-time games played record? Yeah, it is. Morton Anderson.
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Speaker 3: Morton Anderson.
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Speaker 2: 382. So how many do you have to play to
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Speaker 2: get there? You're at 282? I'd play 100 more.
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Speaker 3: I'd play 100 more games.
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Speaker 1: What is that?
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Speaker 2: Six seasons plus?
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Speaker 1: If you want to count postseason, Adam Vinatieri's got 397.
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Speaker 3: Oh, jeez.
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Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 3: Well, at this point, why don't we just go for 400?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, make it around 400, J.J., and then walk off, baby,
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Speaker 2: after that game. All right, man. You got some work
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Speaker 2: to do, J.J. You got 100 games, all right?
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Speaker 1: Get to it.
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Speaker 5: I do.
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Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate it, guys.
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Speaker 2: All right, be good.
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Speaker 6: Thanks so much.
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Speaker 2: There you go, J.J. Jansen, our Iron Man, folks. That
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Speaker 2: number five is Jeff Philadelphia Fegels. So who is the
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Speaker 2: highest non, like, I guess George Blanda, who was a kicker,
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Speaker 2: but obviously a quarterback. Are we counting Brady? The top
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Speaker 2: four are all specialists. Are we counting postseason two or
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Speaker 2: just regular season? Just regular season games. Morton Anderson is one.
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Speaker 2: Vinatieri's two.
17:58
Speaker 1: Gary Anderson three.
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Speaker 2: Gary Anderson three. Jeff Philadelphia, Fiegel's four. Blanda five. Brady six.
18:04
Speaker 2: Jason Hansen seven. Phil Dawson eight. Jerry Rice is crazy
18:09
Speaker 2: as a wideout on this list.
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Speaker 1: He's nine. And then John Connie. So many kickers. And
18:14
Speaker 1: Brett Favre of our team. So many kickers on this list, man.
18:17
Speaker 2: When we come back, Adam Gold from 99.9 to fan
18:21
Speaker 2: in Raleigh. Mac, we're going to try this again. Does
18:24
Speaker 2: he think Wake is a playoff team this week? Will
18:26
Speaker 2: he laugh this week?
18:27
Speaker 1: Ooh. We're going to test him. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
18:40
Speaker 2: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ, Mack and Bone with you. Cruising
18:55
Speaker 2: through a Tuesday morning here on the aptly named Mac
18:59
Speaker 2: and Bone Show. Our boy Fitty is hanging as well,
19:02
Speaker 2: as always, ladies and gentlemen. We got a Bryce conversation
19:06
Speaker 2: to have. Of course we do, Bone, coming up at 845.
19:09
Speaker 2: We will get into it. How well is he playing? Like,
19:12
Speaker 2: if we're being honest and not being total homers, maybe
19:15
Speaker 2: just being minor homers about it, like, how high up
19:18
Speaker 2: should he rank on baseball? the list of quarterbacks this year.
19:22
Speaker 2: And where does he fall in all the time with
19:24
Speaker 2: other Hall of Famers? Montana or Bryce? We will talk
19:29
Speaker 2: about it later. Joe Montana, is he a poor man's
19:32
Speaker 2: Bryce Young? But right now, let's bring in Adam Gold.
19:37
Speaker 2: He's a Bryce fan. I know he's going to enjoy
19:39
Speaker 2: talking about Bryce Young, who might have had his worst
19:42
Speaker 2: game of the season and still 91 quarterback rating, 281 yards,
19:46
Speaker 2: two touchdowns and no picks. Adam Gold joins us. You
19:48
Speaker 2: know we got college football to talk about after that
19:51
Speaker 2: wild weekend of college football. And you know we got
19:53
Speaker 2: to talk about the Canes with Goldie. Adam Gold, 99.9
19:56
Speaker 2: The Fan in Raleigh and most importantly here in Charlotte.
19:59
Speaker 2: You can hear him weeknights, 7 o'clock on WFNZ. Goldie,
20:02
Speaker 2: how you feeling this week, man?
20:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel great.
20:08
Speaker 1: Glad to hear that. You sound great.
20:09
Speaker 2: I know you sound pumped up and ready. You said
20:11
Speaker 2: you're raring to go today. You were full, full energy
20:13
Speaker 2: on the, off the air.
20:15
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Let's do it.
20:17
Speaker 1: I like it.
20:18
Speaker 2: Now, are you, are you enjoying Bryce? Cause you had
20:20
Speaker 2: always been in Bryce's corner, you know, when people were,
20:24
Speaker 2: you were bashing him and when he was having, you know,
20:26
Speaker 2: rough stretches, how much are you enjoying seeing him play
20:30
Speaker 2: the way he's playing and, and get the, you know, and,
20:33
Speaker 2: and get the, get the press and the pub and
20:35
Speaker 2: the recognition and respect that he's now getting.
20:38
Speaker 4: From everybody not named Chris Sims, obviously.
20:43
Speaker 3: Exactly.
20:45
Speaker 4: Look, I don't take any personal, like it's not, I
20:50
Speaker 4: told you so, because I'm not the expert. I'm just
20:54
Speaker 4: trying to read the room and in his draft year,
21:00
Speaker 4: There were more people that were Bryce fans than C.J.
21:04
Speaker 4: Stroud fans. I didn't even realize when Bryce was playing
21:08
Speaker 4: at Alabama that he was small. I mean, not even
21:11
Speaker 4: a lot. I didn't realize that he was small. All
21:14
Speaker 4: I know is that he was good. And to me,
21:18
Speaker 4: he doesn't play like a small quarterback. He plays.
21:22
Speaker 4: I mean, Drew Brees was small. He was about six foot.
21:24
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson. I watched Russell Wilson for his whole career.
21:28
Speaker 4: He's 5'11. There's nothing that says that a small quarterback
21:31
Speaker 4: can't be successful. Nothing. And he does all the things
21:36
Speaker 4: that you want a great quarterback to do. And I
21:40
Speaker 4: actually thought that I think the biggest problem that he
21:44
Speaker 4: had on Sunday was just that His timing was off
21:49
Speaker 4: with his receivers. I mean, he was probably more inaccurate
21:54
Speaker 4: than we've seen him all year. But I remember there
21:58
Speaker 4: was one thing. I'm a big Ross Tucker fan as
22:01
Speaker 4: an analyst. And I think it was right before the
22:04
Speaker 4: first half ended where he said, we're going to find
22:07
Speaker 4: out now how much they trust Bryce Young. And I
22:11
Speaker 4: love Ross, but he hadn't watched the Panthers, I guess,
22:14
Speaker 4: this year because they trust him. And, I mean, even
22:17
Speaker 4: in his own end zone, he dropped back and he
22:19
Speaker 4: threw that first down strike to Ted Arroyo and McMillan.
22:24
Speaker 4: It was like third and 14. Like, in years past,
22:27
Speaker 4: they would have handed the ball off and punted the
22:32
Speaker 4: ball away. But, man, we got one of the best
22:35
Speaker 4: quarterbacks in the league right now. To me, he has
22:40
Speaker 4: arrived as.
22:43
Speaker 4: Again, we have different categories and tiers of great quarterbacks,
22:48
Speaker 4: but he is a top 10 quarterback in this league
22:53
Speaker 4: absolutely right now. I think it bodes well for not
22:57
Speaker 4: only the short-term, but the long-term future.
23:00
Speaker 2: With that, what do you think we're looking at contract-wise
23:02
Speaker 2: with Bryce?
23:04
Speaker 4: A lot.
23:06
Speaker 1: Back to you, Beck.
23:08
Speaker 4: Well, you don't have to pay it. You're good.
23:10
Speaker 1: That's true.
23:11
Speaker 2: I'd be willing to, though, if they asked me. You
23:14
Speaker 2: go get up to $ 55 million.
23:15
Speaker 1: I can help, but we can all help out. Penny's
23:18
Speaker 1: a day. You've seen the commercials.
23:20
Speaker 4: It could be more. It probably will be more than
23:22
Speaker 4: $ 55 million.
23:22
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
23:25
Speaker 4: The captain's going to be about the same, whether the quarterback,
23:29
Speaker 4: whether he's making 62 or he makes 57.
23:34
Speaker 6: It's going to be about the.
23:35
Speaker 4: Same because they're going to, first of all, he's got
23:37
Speaker 4: the 50-year options already been picked up. That's part of it.
23:45
Speaker 1: That'll be part of the contract. Yeah, you're right.
23:48
Speaker 2: The extension part would start after that year, so that
23:52
Speaker 2: kind of helps a little bit, too. We're talking with
23:54
Speaker 2: Adam Gold from 99.9 The Fan in Raleigh. He knows
23:58
Speaker 2: a little something, Bone, about $ 60 million contracts in Raleigh.
24:03
Speaker 2: That's the rumor I'm hearing.
24:05
Speaker 4: I have never had a contract. Do you know that? Oh, really? Never. Never. Dang.
24:10
Speaker 2: Okay. They're paying you, right? It hasn't been a hobby
24:16
Speaker 2: now for 30 years, has.
24:19
Speaker 3: It?
24:19
Speaker 4: Yes. I'm an at-will employee.
24:22
Speaker 1: All right.
24:24
Speaker 2: Please don't tell them here that we can work without contracts.
24:27
Speaker 2: Don't tell them that's an option.
24:28
Speaker 4: Did that unsettle you guys?
24:30
Speaker 3: Uh-oh.
24:30
Speaker 1: Uh-oh.
24:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep that quiet.
24:32
Speaker 1: Goldie. You just signed out of an employee like two
24:34
Speaker 1: weeks ago.
24:35
Speaker 2: The college football weekend was freaking amazing. Ridiculous. It was
24:41
Speaker 2: insane with the five top seven teams losing most of
24:44
Speaker 2: all time and just the drama and the way it
24:46
Speaker 2: was done. And Urban Meyer said something yesterday. I am
24:49
Speaker 2: very rarely agreeing with Urban Meyer. But he said to
24:51
Speaker 2: Colin Coward, he was like, man, I was wrong. He said,
24:54
Speaker 2: I thought this NIL thing with the portal was going
24:57
Speaker 2: to make the rich richer. He says it has created
25:00
Speaker 2: so much parody, and I just believe it has. I
25:03
Speaker 2: believe once we get past injunction, junction, and all that
25:07
Speaker 2: annoying stuff with the contracts and the court and the eligibility,
25:11
Speaker 2: I just believe the on-the-field product and the parody has
25:14
Speaker 2: made Saturdays even better. Do you agree with that?
25:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, what we don't have are, I mean, super dominant–
25:25
Speaker 4: you know, teams that go two and three deep, like
25:28
Speaker 4: the old Alabama team. So when, if you go back
25:32
Speaker 4: and you look at the rosters of the Alabama team,
25:35
Speaker 4: the players that didn't play during that Saban era, just
25:40
Speaker 4: because they had, you know, future top 10 draft pick
25:43
Speaker 4: in their way at every position, those players are playing elsewhere. So, yeah,
25:49
Speaker 4: there are problems. I was talking about this with one
25:52
Speaker 4: of my good friends. I know you've talked to him,
25:54
Speaker 4: Chip Patterson. And the rosters for college football teams now
26:00
Speaker 4: are a little thinner. They're still great, but they're a
26:03
Speaker 4: little thinner. So they don't have as much depth because
26:06
Speaker 4: that depth is playing elsewhere because people are going where
26:10
Speaker 4: the money is if they're going to get paid. You know,
26:12
Speaker 4: you can't get paid as the backup left, you know,
26:17
Speaker 4: left quarterback. You're going to go somewhere else and get paid.
26:21
Speaker 4: The third wide receiver isn't making, you know, a million
26:25
Speaker 4: and a half bucks to stay at Ohio State. That
26:28
Speaker 4: guy is going somewhere else. And, yes, so we've got
26:31
Speaker 4: parity everywhere. There's still a lot of good football, but
26:36
Speaker 4: it has made the field– bigger which justifies unfortunately their
26:44
Speaker 4: 2014 stupid playoff have you guys seen the sec shorts
26:50
Speaker 4: uh latest.
26:51
Speaker 7: Video no no oh you gotta watch it you gotta
26:55
Speaker 7: watch it because it's funny because it's all about this
26:58
Speaker 7: past weekend and it's an it's a college football emergency
27:01
Speaker 7: room it's so good.
27:03
Speaker 6: Uh and it's that it steps outside of.
27:06
Speaker 4: The sec for the not for the first time but
27:08
Speaker 4: it It incorporates everybody who had struggles this weekend. The
27:12
Speaker 4: Miami part in the beginning is hysterical.
27:15
Speaker 2: I saw the AI video while the losing coaches were
27:17
Speaker 2: playing in a music group, Matt.
27:19
Speaker 1: We saw that one yesterday. That was impressive. Marcus Freeman's
27:21
Speaker 1: on the saxophone.
27:22
Speaker 4: That was very funny. By the way, I didn't realize
27:25
Speaker 4: that Marcus Freeman could play the sax. He's fantastic.
27:30
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
27:31
Speaker 2: What do you think of the 2014 playoff, though, and
27:33
Speaker 2: how does that fundamentally change what we're talking about?
27:37
Speaker 4: It changes it drastically because especially in the middle of October,
27:48
Speaker 4: the results from these games, they don't really mean anything
27:51
Speaker 4: but for seeding. But with a 12-team playoff, frankly, I
27:57
Speaker 4: was a 14 guy. And I've said this 100,000 times.
28:02
Speaker 4: I didn't really like expanding it to 12. But- I
28:07
Speaker 4: will grant you that last year was fun, and the
28:09
Speaker 4: year before was fun, and the year before that was fun,
28:11
Speaker 4: and this year will be fun. 24 is nuts, but
28:17
Speaker 4: what Saturday did was, in a 12-team field, that essentially
28:24
Speaker 4: eliminated some teams. Nobody got eliminated in a 24-team field.
28:31
Speaker 4: There's just no way. I keep having these conversations or
28:39
Speaker 4: monologues about the state of college football. The people who
28:43
Speaker 4: run it don't care about it. They only care about
28:45
Speaker 4: how much money they can pull from it. They don't
28:48
Speaker 4: care about the game. They don't care about the players.
28:49
Speaker 4: They don't care about anything except how much money they
28:52
Speaker 4: can generate. And that's ultimately the playoffs going to generate more,
28:59
Speaker 4: not dramatically more, but more. And that's all they care
29:02
Speaker 4: about is growing the pie. But we won't have a
29:07
Speaker 4: weekend like we just had with meaning in a 2014 field.
29:11
Speaker 4: So that's the tradeoff.
29:14
Speaker 2: It's also going to hurt the other bowl games. What's
29:18
Speaker 2: the weed-eating bowl? The Pullian weed-eating bowl? You worried about
29:23
Speaker 2: losing it? Yeah, I'm just saying, like the weed-eating bowl
29:26
Speaker 2: and the Thompson's water seal bowl, they're all going to
29:30
Speaker 2: be in trouble now.
29:30
Speaker 4: You know how long it took me to know what
29:35
Speaker 4: uh that the bad boy bull whatever that's.
29:38
Speaker 2: Called bad boy mowers took me to realize.
29:40
Speaker 6: That that it was a lawnmower company i have no
29:43
Speaker 6: idea what will lockheed martin sponsor now because we want
29:48
Speaker 6: to go out and we want to buy all these
29:51
Speaker 6: military grade weapons.
29:55
Speaker 1: Oh, of course. I'm going to shop for some later today.
29:56
Speaker 1: I'm always wondering about that advertiser.
29:58
Speaker 2: Like, do we really want to? Do we need that
30:00
Speaker 2: on our every day? Yeah, I'm going to show you.
30:01
Speaker 2: You want to shop with me later? I'm online shopping
30:03
Speaker 2: for some later. Mac needs himself a bad boy mower. Goldie,
30:07
Speaker 2: what did you think? Bone is trying to filibuster so
30:10
Speaker 2: we don't talk about the victory bell. Going to Little Billy.
30:13
Speaker 2: Little Billy has finally achieved his lifelong dream of beating Duke.
30:18
Speaker 2: And it was, bro, it was dramatic, man. The way
30:23
Speaker 2: it looked like it was going to repeat 2024 with
30:26
Speaker 2: the big blown lead, only for them to kind of
30:29
Speaker 2: nut up and make that big drive for Edwards to
30:32
Speaker 2: make the throw on fourth down, McGill's run. That was
30:35
Speaker 2: a pretty damn good game. And the Heels got a
30:37
Speaker 2: little momentum. What do you think about it, Goldie?
30:40
Speaker 4: I think they're doing exactly what Bill Belichick does. I
30:44
Speaker 4: don't know that they were better than Duke. Actually, I
30:46
Speaker 4: think they were better than Duke. And I'm not sure
30:50
Speaker 4: they were better than Pitt, but Bill's going to keep
30:52
Speaker 4: his team in it. They play disciplined football. They play
30:56
Speaker 4: smart football. I don't know if the guttiness was going
31:00
Speaker 4: for it on fourth and five. I still can't figure out.
31:04
Speaker 4: If I'm Bill Belichick, let's just flip it for a second.
31:09
Speaker 4: If I'm Bill Belichick coaching Duke, is there a way
31:12
Speaker 4: on this planet that Jelani Thurman would have been left uncovered?
31:17
Speaker 4: On any planet, no way am I not focusing on,
31:23
Speaker 4: in my opinion, the Tar Heels' best player. There's no
31:28
Speaker 4: way he's open. I don't understand how he got open
31:30
Speaker 4: against Duke, but he did. But look, I said when
31:35
Speaker 4: Bill got the job, I have no idea if this
31:37
Speaker 4: is going to work. But if you give him comparable talent,
31:40
Speaker 4: doesn't have to be better, comparable talent, the best coach
31:44
Speaker 4: in the history of football is going to figure out
31:46
Speaker 4: a way to win more games than you would with
31:49
Speaker 4: the same talent. And that's what he's doing. This team
31:52
Speaker 4: is not a four and two football team based on
31:56
Speaker 4: the schedule that they have already played. But they are
31:58
Speaker 4: 4-2 because they have the best coach that ever wore
32:02
Speaker 4: a headset. No doubt about it.
32:04
Speaker 1: They know how to win.
32:05
Speaker 4: You know how hard it is to do what he
32:07
Speaker 4: did with the Patriots, even with Tom Brady? I mean,
32:13
Speaker 4: they didn't have the best wide receivers, the best offensive line,
32:18
Speaker 4: the best– they didn't have the best. They had the
32:20
Speaker 4: best quarterback, but they didn't have the best talent on
32:24
Speaker 4: the field every year. But, hell, if they didn't win– 11,
32:28
Speaker 4: 12 games every year. That's impossible to do in the NFL.
32:32
Speaker 4: The best coaches don't do that now. Kyle Shanahan had
32:36
Speaker 4: like a six-win season a few years ago. I mean,
32:42
Speaker 4: everybody takes a dip. Not Bill.
32:44
Speaker 3: Yeah. He's that good.
32:45
Speaker 2: Got to give him credit. And the progress is happening.
32:48
Speaker 2: I'm happy for Heels fans. Man, you see the progress.
32:50
Speaker 2: And another winnable game against Syracuse. I ain't locking anything up.
32:54
Speaker 2: But a chance to.
32:55
Speaker 4: They're a touchdown favorite.
32:56
Speaker 2: Okay. That's true, too. They have a great chance to
33:02
Speaker 2: go to 5-2. They really do.
33:03
Speaker 1: Goldie.
33:04
Speaker 6: They could win seven or eight games this year.
33:07
Speaker 2: And that would be a hell of a freaking season
33:09
Speaker 2: after last year. And they got rid of Lombardi. That's
33:12
Speaker 2: like three wins in itself. All right, Goldie.
33:16
Speaker 4: That should get them right.
33:19
Speaker 2: You're the man, Goldie. We'll talk to you next week.
33:22
Speaker 4: Peace, fellas.
33:23
Speaker 1: All right, there you go.
33:24
Speaker 2: That is Goldie. Very spunky Goldie today, man. You know
33:27
Speaker 2: what I mean?
33:27
Speaker 3: Frisky.
33:28
Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going to do an Ask
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33:35
Speaker 2: Where should Bryce really rank among quarterbacks based on play
33:39
Speaker 2: this season? Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
33:56
Speaker 5: I sat here and I watched you, right, as we
33:58
Speaker 5: got ready to start. And I hear you talk about
34:01
Speaker 5: the NFC teams and who has the chance to win
34:04
Speaker 5: and who is in the MVP race. I didn't hear Bryce.
34:08
Speaker 2: Young name once, Kay.
34:09
Speaker 5: I'm disappointed in that.
34:10
Speaker 1: Because Bryce Young is playing.
34:12
Speaker 5: Some of the best football of any quarterback in the
34:15
Speaker 5: NFL right now. And the Panthers are a team that
34:18
Speaker 5: we're going to sneak up on a lot of people because.
34:22
Speaker 5: Nobody is talking about what this team is capable of.
34:25
Speaker 5: Nobody is talking about what this team has gone through
34:28
Speaker 5: from an injury standpoint. Whenever you lose the amount of
34:31
Speaker 5: key players that we have lost and you still have
34:34
Speaker 5: the opportunity to be as competitive as this team has
34:38
Speaker 5: and to win some of the games that we've won
34:40
Speaker 5: so far, I think that this team is going to
34:43
Speaker 5: be a team that's going to sneak up on a
34:44
Speaker 5: lot of people in the NFC.
34:47
Speaker 2: That is Thomas Davis on with Kay Adams. He was
34:49
Speaker 2: not happy with her. Was not happy, Bone, that she
34:52
Speaker 2: went through a list of MVP candidates and did not
34:56
Speaker 2: mention Bryce Young. He also feels damn good about the
35:00
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers' potential as they're getting healthier right now with
35:04
Speaker 2: a game-and-a-half lead in the division. Thomas Davis, another we guy.
35:07
Speaker 2: We said it with Luke and Jake. I love it
35:09
Speaker 2: on these interviews when... It shows what the franchise meant
35:13
Speaker 2: to these guys when they still refer to them as
35:16
Speaker 2: we long past their playing days. That's a cool thing, Mac,
35:20
Speaker 2: when Thomas Davis will defend the franchise still, what it
35:23
Speaker 2: means to him to be a Panther.
35:25
Speaker 1: I love it, man. And what about a guy?
35:27
Speaker 2: He's not weeing about the commanders of the Chargers where
35:29
Speaker 2: he played, is he? No, he's weeing about the Panthers.
35:31
Speaker 1: No, no doubt.
35:32
Speaker 2: What is it when a dude that played one year
35:36
Speaker 2: of football as a kid and wanted to quit a
35:39
Speaker 2: third of the way through the season, but says we
35:41
Speaker 2: like he's on the Carolina Panthers? Is that acceptable behavior, Boat?
35:45
Speaker 2: Let's see, Thomas Davis played with the broken arm in
35:47
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. He passes the list there.
35:49
Speaker 1: And Mac Adler.
35:50
Speaker 2: Jake DeLome is one of the most beloved players in
35:53
Speaker 2: franchise history. He passes the test. Lou Keekly's a Hall
35:57
Speaker 2: of Famer. And then there's Chris McClain, who's put in
36:00
Speaker 2: 23 seasons of Panther football. You've seen a lot of
36:02
Speaker 2: bad stuff.
36:03
Speaker 1: That's true. I went through a lot. I feel like
36:05
Speaker 1: I've earned it.
36:06
Speaker 2: But that football playing thing wasn't quite for me.
36:08
Speaker 1: You went through the 2010 season.
36:10
Speaker 2: All right. So let's talk about this Bryce conversation, man.
36:14
Speaker 3: Like....
36:16
Speaker 2: The MVP chants are awesome. The way he's playing, I mean,
36:19
Speaker 2: I think he should be proving to everybody that he
36:22
Speaker 2: is the franchise quarterback, the guy we got to pay ultimately,
36:26
Speaker 2: the guy we got to build around. But just real talk, Bone,
36:30
Speaker 2: where does he rank right now, in your opinion, among
36:35
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks in the NFL? He is playing like what
36:39
Speaker 2: ranked quarterback? He's playing like a top five quarterback to
36:42
Speaker 2: start the season now. Do I expect the yardage pace?
36:47
Speaker 2: to continue like that. I think that would be pretty
36:49
Speaker 2: absurd to think that he's going to cross the 5,000-yard mark.
36:52
Speaker 2: But even if he finishes in the 7-8 range this season,
36:56
Speaker 2: think about where we thought he was. Did we ever think, Mac,
36:59
Speaker 2: after the way his career started, that Bryce Young would
37:02
Speaker 2: ever end up in a season, you know, anywhere from
37:06
Speaker 2: 5-10 quarterback in the NFL? We thought, hey, if he
37:08
Speaker 2: ends up in the top 12-15, that's a victory for
37:11
Speaker 2: where he started. So, And it's just the beginning, I think,
37:15
Speaker 2: now of where he's going to go. But I would
37:16
Speaker 2: say he's probably top five now. He can finish, though,
37:20
Speaker 2: anywhere from five to seven in this league. I mean, listen,
37:24
Speaker 2: my goal for him this year was to be around
37:26
Speaker 2: the middle, be around 15th. Last year, I thought he
37:29
Speaker 2: was around 20th. 20, 21, 22, something like that. Wasn't
37:32
Speaker 2: consistent enough. Did I think though, bone that he can
37:36
Speaker 2: be a top 10 quarterback in this league on the
37:38
Speaker 2: regular at some point in his career? Yeah, I did. Um,
37:42
Speaker 2: I did not think it was, I did not think
37:44
Speaker 2: he'd be leading the league in yardage after five games,
37:47
Speaker 2: averaging to your point over 300 yards, passing a game.
37:51
Speaker 2: having 280 yards in every game. I mean, Bone, how
37:54
Speaker 2: about this? There's so many Bryce Young stats that show
37:57
Speaker 2: how well he's playing right now. How about this one?
38:00
Speaker 2: First three years in the league, he had four games
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Speaker 2: with 280 yards passing or more. Four games. He has
38:06
Speaker 2: five this year. Like it's the consistency and the way
38:10
Speaker 2: that they are. The thing that really speaks to it, Bone,
38:13
Speaker 2: is the way that they trust him, like the way
38:16
Speaker 2: that they want him to air it out downfield, the
38:19
Speaker 2: way they want to ride Bryce's arm to victory. In
38:22
Speaker 2: the past, I felt like Dave Canales was trying to
38:24
Speaker 2: minimize Bryce. Let's see if we can win with Bryce.
38:28
Speaker 2: We don't want to ask him to do too much.
38:30
Speaker 2: And now, Boney, it's like, oh, yeah, we're going to
38:32
Speaker 2: win because of Bryce. Oh, your O-line's giving up a
38:35
Speaker 2: ton of pressures? Doesn't matter. We're still going to keep chucking,
38:38
Speaker 2: and we're going to win it with Bryce. So who
38:42
Speaker 2: are the guys, Bone, that we're putting up there with him,
38:44
Speaker 2: the way they're playing right now? Well, in a weird way,
38:48
Speaker 2: we're just talking about right now, so that means— Stafford's
38:51
Speaker 2: probably not on the list. Oh, he's playing better than Stafford.
38:53
Speaker 2: I don't even think it's close right now. I'm just
38:55
Speaker 2: making sure we know that, obviously, career-wise, yeah. But right now,
38:59
Speaker 2: it's Stafford's off the list. Like, so far this season,
39:02
Speaker 2: Brock Purdy. I wrote down names of the guys.
39:05
Speaker 1: We'll go through them, okay? Josh Allen. I'm just writing
39:08
Speaker 1: down the names. We can debate them. Josh Allen. Joe Burrow.
39:13
Speaker 1: caleb williams although he's.
39:14
Speaker 2: Been hurt when he's been in there he's been good
39:16
Speaker 2: jordan love is on fire right now uh trevor but
39:18
Speaker 2: jordan love was not on fire to start the season
39:20
Speaker 2: i'm just i know i'm just naming off the guys
39:22
Speaker 2: that could be debated jordan love trevor warrens pat mahomes
39:26
Speaker 2: and we got to give a tip of the cap
39:28
Speaker 2: to brock purdy as well for the year he's out
39:29
Speaker 2: oh yeah brock purdy might be the league mvp right
39:31
Speaker 2: he is he is he's got 14 touchdowns and two
39:34
Speaker 2: picks um averaging eight and a half yards an attempt
39:36
Speaker 2: like brock purdy is on the like i probably start
39:39
Speaker 2: my list with brock purdy to be honest with you
39:42
Speaker 2: um jared goff I think in terms of how they're
39:45
Speaker 2: playing this year, he has 12 touchdowns, zero picks. I
39:48
Speaker 2: think Jared Goff's up there. I think Joe Burrow, 11 touchdowns,
39:51
Speaker 2: three picks, 71% completion. I think he's got to be
39:55
Speaker 2: up there on that list. Mahomes, although he's not the
40:01
Speaker 2: best offensive player on his football team right now. Kenneth
40:04
Speaker 2: Walker is on pace to have the most rushing yards
40:07
Speaker 2: and total yards from scrimmage. in a season in NFL
40:09
Speaker 2: history right now. I, so I may, I may battle
40:14
Speaker 2: you and say, Bryce is playing better than my homes.
40:16
Speaker 1: Honestly. I didn't write.
40:19
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I was, he has to be in
40:20
Speaker 2: the top. Well, I understand. I wasn't necessarily putting in.
40:24
Speaker 2: I was just saying, those are the guys we have
40:26
Speaker 2: to figure out where he falls into those rankings. That was,
40:28
Speaker 2: abc order of the teams of the quarterbacks i think
40:31
Speaker 2: and what i'm trying to do is cut to the
40:33
Speaker 2: chase and be like okay who's the real top five
40:35
Speaker 2: and does bryce fit in the top five i think
40:38
Speaker 2: josh allen does so much for that team i feel
40:41
Speaker 2: like you got to put him in there i would
40:43
Speaker 2: stump for bryce to be top five i i would
40:46
Speaker 2: i would i would battle for that so.
40:49
Speaker 1: Alan burrow and purdy would be the given.
40:52
Speaker 2: Golf i think golf's in there too in there i
40:54
Speaker 2: think then i think bryce is in that then you're
40:57
Speaker 2: debating bryce with By the way, he's not in this
41:00
Speaker 2: particular group, but Stroud's having a hell of a bounce
41:02
Speaker 2: back here as well, by the way, in terms of
41:04
Speaker 2: no turnover.
41:05
Speaker 1: Stroud's doing a good job. I don't think he's in
41:06
Speaker 1: this list, but he's notable.
41:08
Speaker 2: He's in the mix. I mean, he's the PFF number
41:11
Speaker 2: four highest graded passer.
41:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's having a good year.
41:13
Speaker 2: But he ain't playing as good as Bryce.
41:14
Speaker 1: No, he's not. But I'm saying he deserves credit.
41:16
Speaker 2: And the Bryce factor of the pressure that he has
41:19
Speaker 2: faced and what he has done in the face of
41:21
Speaker 2: pressure has to be factored in. So you're grading Bryce
41:24
Speaker 2: for that top five spot here. If it's Allen, Burrow...
41:29
Speaker 2: and Goff and Purdy, then it's Caleb Williams, Jordan Love,
41:34
Speaker 2: Trevor Warrens, and Patrick Mahomes, and how does he fit into.
41:38
Speaker 1: That grouping there?
41:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Caleb Williams has been hurt. I'm going
41:41
Speaker 2: to be honest with you. Jordan Love played like crap
41:42
Speaker 2: for the first three games of the season. Caleb Williams
41:45
Speaker 2: has played two-plus games. That's all he's played. Again, I'm
41:49
Speaker 2: not on here, Bone, saying this is the way the
41:50
Speaker 2: season's going to end. I'm not saying Bryce. I feel
41:53
Speaker 2: pretty strongly that Bryce is going to end the season
41:55
Speaker 2: as a top 10 quarterback. I feel pretty strongly about that.
41:58
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about right now. Like somebody tried to
42:01
Speaker 2: text in Drake May. Drake May's been great for two games.
42:04
Speaker 2: Much like Jordan Love, he was off to a bad
42:06
Speaker 2: start to the season. So Bryce has done it every
42:10
Speaker 2: effing week. Yeah, every week he's top five. It's not, yeah,
42:13
Speaker 2: you're right. But yeah, no, he's top five. Although Mahomes,
42:18
Speaker 2: what do we do with Mahomes on this list, though?
42:19
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Bryce is playing better than Pat Mahomes.
42:23
Speaker 2: I think the Kansas City Chiefs, Bone, are a better
42:26
Speaker 2: running team than passing team right now. Mahomes is right
42:29
Speaker 2: near there. But I honestly believe Bryce, through five games,
42:35
Speaker 2: is playing better than he is. Yeah, and what's that
42:37
Speaker 2: say if Bryce is ahead of Mahomes and Mahomes is
42:40
Speaker 2: playing well? I mean, that's not like Mahomes is having
42:42
Speaker 2: a down year. He's at nine touchdowns, three picks, 1,300 yards.
42:48
Speaker 2: Completion percentage, he's won every game. Yeah, no, I mean,
42:51
Speaker 2: Mahomes is playing well, and Bryce Young would be above
42:54
Speaker 2: Mahomes right now.
42:56
Speaker 1: I'm a homer, though, but that's what I think.
42:58
Speaker 2: You're a Mahomer. It would be fascinating to see where
43:01
Speaker 2: he falls in this grouping as we update this throughout
43:04
Speaker 2: the season, right?
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Speaker 4: Another.
43:06
Speaker 2: Four or five games, where does this list go?
43:08
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
43:08
Speaker 2: Let me read some of these stats. It's a very
43:09
Speaker 2: fluid list, I think, with some of these guys. If
43:11
Speaker 2: there's any jabronis out there, like, he can't be one
43:13
Speaker 2: of the top five quarterbacks. Let me read some stats off. Oh,
43:17
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, but he's also missed some time. He's fifth. Absolutely,
43:20
Speaker 2: he has. He's missed multiple games. So he's played 60%
43:23
Speaker 2: of the season. I wouldn't consider him right now because
43:27
Speaker 2: of that.
43:28
Speaker 1: Some of Bryce's numbers.
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Speaker 2: Fifth in PFF offensive grade, fifth in PFF passing grade,
43:34
Speaker 2: eighth in yards per attempt, first in yards per game.
43:37
Speaker 2: He is, let's see here, second lowest turnover-worthy play percentage,
43:43
Speaker 2: tied fourth lowest in interceptions. Fourth in average distance of target,
43:47
Speaker 2: so he's throwing the ball downfield. Tied for seventh in touchdowns.
43:52
Speaker 2: Ninth in quarterback rating. Let's see here. He is doing
43:56
Speaker 2: this all while being the fourth most pressured quarterback now.
43:59
Speaker 2: It dropped from most pressured to fourth most pressured. He
44:02
Speaker 2: has the fifth best grade under pressure passing and total
44:05
Speaker 2: offense grade under pressure. He has the second best total
44:09
Speaker 2: offense grade with a clean pocket. These are all PFF numbers.
44:12
Speaker 2: the third best passing grade with a clean pocket. He
44:15
Speaker 2: has the second best deep passing grade on PFF. He
44:19
Speaker 2: is second in deep completions. He is number one in
44:23
Speaker 2: offense and passing grade among quarterbacks play action. I mean,
44:27
Speaker 2: just listen to that stuff, man. That's unbelievable. I mean,
44:30
Speaker 2: what stat is he struggling with? I mean, is there
44:32
Speaker 2: one that he's not good at right now? Or near
44:35
Speaker 2: the top, I should say? Little Brycey is all groans up, baby.
44:38
Speaker 2: He is all groans up. He has the most throwaways
44:42
Speaker 2: in the NFL. He's thrown the ball away a lot,
44:45
Speaker 2: but that probably is in line with... He only has
44:48
Speaker 2: two interceptions and three turnover-worthy plays all season. He's protecting
44:52
Speaker 2: the football. I can't really find anything that he's bad at.
44:56
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Everything I gave you there
44:58
Speaker 2: is in the top ten. Sizzle is upset that we're
45:02
Speaker 2: even debating this right now. Keep in mind, he's also
45:05
Speaker 2: the guy that called us cowards September 9th for how
45:09
Speaker 2: bad Bryce Young is, and every year with him is
45:12
Speaker 2: a wasted year. We're lying if we think Bryce Young
45:14
Speaker 2: is good. So now he's not adjusting his take here.
45:18
Speaker 2: By the way, Sizzle might be, I mean this respectfully,
45:22
Speaker 2: one of the dumbest texters that we have. What does
45:23
Speaker 2: he do respectfully? Because he said in one text, Bryce
45:27
Speaker 2: has never had a winning season. Stop these levels of delusion.
45:31
Speaker 2: And then you asked him, where do you put him?
45:33
Speaker 2: He's being sarcastic. What's he sarcastic about? Does he like
45:37
Speaker 2: him or not like him? No, he said he's the go.
45:39
Speaker 2: He's being sarcastic. That part was sarcastic. If you scroll up,
45:41
Speaker 2: it's all. I can't keep track of Sizzle's highbrow humor.
45:46
Speaker 2: Keep in mind, Sizzle has not got a quarterback prediction
45:49
Speaker 2: right here since Jim McMahon entered the league. I mean,
45:51
Speaker 2: we're just talking about the first five games of the season.
45:54
Speaker 2: We're not talking about anything other than that. This dude says,
45:57
Speaker 2: what a couple of moronic homers. September 9th, he was
46:00
Speaker 2: on a run on this show. Guarantee, Bryce will be
46:03
Speaker 2: benched by week number four.
46:05
Speaker 1: That's aging. Bryce sucks. That's not an opinion. It's facts.
46:08
Speaker 2: Bro, those takes are aging worse than I am. I'm
46:11
Speaker 2: going to tell you that right now. And I ain't
46:14
Speaker 2: aging well. He's saying right now that he thinks Bryce
46:20
Speaker 2: is great because he changed his opinion on Kyle's show.
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Speaker 2: Then why did you just say, then why are you
46:27
Speaker 2: yelling about Bryce not having winning?
46:28
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 2: It's almost like this guy, Mac, might be a few
46:32
Speaker 2: meats short of a barbecue platter. A few cheeses short
46:37
Speaker 2: of a charcuterie board. When we come back on the
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Speaker 2: Mac and Bone show on this Victory Tuesday, Joe Person
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Speaker 2: of TheAthletic.com talks Panthers.