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Vaushawn Johnson: Saved From Addiction & Prison To Glorify God · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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defending biblical Christianity.
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No topic off limits.
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And now, here's your host, David Fierazzo.
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Hey friends, family and Christ, thank you so much for tuning in.
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I've got a special treat for you today, a brother in Northeast Wisconsin that's got
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a wonderful ministry, and it's called Adult and Teen Challenge, Northeast Wisconsin.
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He's going to tell you his story, but let me tell you a little bit about Vashon Johnson.
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He is the director of Adult and Teen Challenge, Northeast Wisconsin.
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And about four years ago, he became the executive director and was crucial in establishing
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the first adult and teen challenge here, pioneering Christ-centered treatment program.
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Having faced a challenging upbringing and personal battles with addiction, which he's
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going to share part of his story today, Vashon completed the Minnesota Adult and Teen
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Challenge recovery program back in 2009.
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So he knows exactly how to minister to other people because he went through it himself.
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And this of course ignited his passion to help others.
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So from 2011 to 2018, Vashon served as program manager in Minnesota.
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From the men's campus, focusing on recovery through discipleship 2018, he collaborated
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with prison fellowship and the Minnesota Department of Corrections.
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We're going to definitely get that part of the story.
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And he managed over 140 inmates annually and successfully just helped these men.
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And so he's in Northeast Wisconsin.
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We're blessed.
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I want to give you the website.
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It is adult and teen challenge.
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It is A-T-C-N-E-W.com, A-T-C-N-E-W.com.
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Vashon, welcome to World View Matters.
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Good to see you, brother.
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It's good to be here, David.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much for coming in and sharing your story.
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I'm sure you've done it a lot.
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Before we do that and get into all that and talk about what we want to talk about, another
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reason I wanted to have you come in is you're going to be speaking at the Men of Iron
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Conference, coming up in Green Bay, one-way Christian Church, October 12th, men.
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You can hear Vashon.
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And also Jonathan Brentner, we've had him on the podcast, Pastor David Rod, he's been
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on, trouble makers for the Kingdom of God, Vashon.
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So you're going to be speaking there.
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It's a great bunch of men.
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They come from all over.
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Yeah.
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It's a blessing.
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I know they're going to be inspired and encouraged.
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The theme being perseverance, so just talk to us a little bit about what, you don't have
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to give it all away.
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Sure.
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But what you're going to talk about at Men of Iron Conference?
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Yeah.
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So what's been burning up my heart?
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I was just talking to Pastor David Rod, last week, as we were all kind of just figuring
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out what the Lord has been speaking to us.
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Obviously, the theme is perseverance, right?
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Persevere for Christ.
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For me, what I'm going to share is just how do we do that as men through brokenness,
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right?
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Like, I think about the scripture in Nehemiah when we think about, I look at our nation,
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right?
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I feel like, man, our nation right now needs Jesus in a major way.
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How far we've fallen as a nation from God, you know, by removing God from the classrooms
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and removing God, right, from politics and all of those things that, that man, our nation
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so desperately needs Jesus right now.
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And it needs men to build the stand up, you know, in our homes and our communities.
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But for me, I believe that the way the Lord has done that is gifted me the ability to do
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that through brokenness, the importance of staying broken and being willing to suffer
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whatever we may need to suffer, to build, to get the gospel out, to a broken nation,
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to our broken city, right, and broken homes.
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So, men need to step up, I think, women have kind of taken the leadership role, sadly,
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in too many homes and in too many contexts in this country, and man, you're right, we
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have a broken country, we have a broken system.
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We have a lot of healing that needs to take place.
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I think brokenness, it's a humbling process.
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And if that's going to bring men, and women, but if that's going to bring men to their
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knees, to God, or back to God, to him be the glory, right, and it sounds like that's
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what happened with you.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So, before we get to your story, Vashon, I want you to share about adult and teen challenge
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North East Wisconsin, it's really relatively new, and I'm excited that it's here, and
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I just want to mention, guys, some of these stats,
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they're on your website, guys, if you go to ATCNEW.com, these are death statistics through
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2022.
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Over the past seven years, it says, due to alcohol, 3,926 deaths due to cocaine, 172,
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opiate, opioid, 148, and meth, 315, that's a lot of people, and that's sad.
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So, talk to us about adult and teen challenges.
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Yeah, so the birth of adult teen challenge North East Wisconsin, well, just say a little
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bit about the organization.
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We are a national, international ministry.
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It started in 1960 by a man by the name of David Wilkerson, Pastor David Wilkerson, maybe
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you've heard that name, crossing the switchblade, you know, in the 60s, that will be the most
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impitiative that came out around back.
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Back now.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's good when I say that because not a lot of people remember that was over 60 years
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ago, but Pastor David, you know, our faithless, faithful founder, really just had a heart
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to go help people in New York.
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He felt called by God to go help the addicted there and help the young trouble youth and
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from their birth, the first adult teen challenge boys adolescent program in Brooklyn, New York.
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Wow.
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I don't think that Pastor David had the intentions that it would grow into this like international
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ministry, but that's what it did grow to.
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We have over 200 men, women and teen centers across the United States, and then we have
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over 1,000 treatment programs around the world.
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So essentially what adult teen challenge is, it is a one year faith-based, intense discipleship,
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residential treatment program that addresses drug and alcohol addiction for men, women
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and teens, and everything in center, all of our curriculum is centered around biblical
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content, biblical counselors.
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And so it's a place, it's a refuge for people to build, to come, to heal, to overcome the
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traumas and the things that are the root causes that have led to their addiction, and it's
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a place man for them to get to know Jesus, man, and it's a remarkable ministry, I'm happy
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to be a part of it.
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It's an honor.
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Well, I've watched a lot of his sermons, man, David Wilkerson, what a preacher.
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And I mean, he would, I mean, sometimes just break down crime, he was so touched by
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the Holy Spirit, the passion, and the faith that man had, and anyway, praise God, that's
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so good to know, I didn't realize that.
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So here we are, it's a year, a year program.
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Tell us how that works, we're going to get to your story, but tell us how that works,
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like parents, their kid is really messed up, let's start with that because there's adults
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and there's teens.
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Correct.
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To start with how someone comes to the ATC.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you know, there's all different walks of life that causes men, women, and teens
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to come through our doors.
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Essentially, it's just people who either grew up in addiction.
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We see a lot of that, we see a lot of traumas, rather if you grew up abandoned, a lot of
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our men that we serve in the Green Bay campus, either have all of his dads, we're bullied.
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There's such a variety of different scenarios and different things that may happen in one's
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life that will cause them to start seeking drug and alcohol to medicate, right?
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We believe that everything is centered around, like we see addiction as sin.
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So like it's really defining what addiction is, first of all, and it's seen as that man,
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it's really a sinful lifestyle, and it's rooted in sin and that the only thing that can
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cure sin, right?
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Because we know addiction is being known, and I would say an addiction sector is, it's
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called a disease, right?
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And so we agree with that.
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We would say, yeah, it is a disease, but let's just define disease that we know that in
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the scripture, it says that sin is a disease, right?
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And an only healer for that is Christ and Christ alone.
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And so, you know, we get calls from men, women, teens, people who are broken.
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One of the things about addiction is that when you're in addiction, you can't separate
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yourself from making bad decisions.
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So think about child protective service.
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A lot of child protective service is geared around people stuck in addiction or have an
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addiction tied to it.
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Criminal activity, there's, you can't get a lot of crimes.
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Actually, over 80%, I believe in Brown County, most of the people incarcerated has some
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type of direct correlation to it, some type of substance abuse.
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So it's just to show you like that in the time we live in today, it says out of one out
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of four people in a home and one out of four people in America, either know someone directly
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struggling with addiction or indirectly that's struggling with addiction.
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So it's grown to a problem that man in our country, right, and around the world that
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it's just becoming such a problematic and it's taking lives, which is just men.
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We know God's hard, right?
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God came to save.
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And so that's the heart of it.
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And the thief comes to kill, steal and destroy, but Jesus said, I come that they may have
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life and have more abundantly.
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By the way, friends, Fashon mentioned Brown County, that's Green Bay, Wisconsin, that's
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Brown County, Northeast Wisconsin, talk about fatherlessness for a minute.
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This is a massive problem and not just in the inner cities, but the divorce rate across
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the country.
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I mean, inner cities is off the charts and in the black community, it's off the charts.
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And I think it's like in the upper 70s, percent of homes have a single mom.
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Can you speak to that for a moment and how that kids, the percentage of, they're more
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likely as teens or kids to go down the wrong path if they don't have a father.
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Go ahead.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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You know, David, when you looked at those statistics that you shared earlier for Brown
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County, or just in Northeast Wisconsin, where you had over 5,000 people, right, that have
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died as a direct result of addiction, 60% more are men are dying at the rate of women
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in Northeast Wisconsin.
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And I would probably say that would be fair across the country that there are a lot more
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men struggling with addiction than there are women.
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Nevertheless, you think about, yes, when you have children who don't have the fathers
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in their homes, right, I think we look at the design of the family, the way God designed
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family.
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And he designed fathers to be the spiritual, you know, heads of their home, right, of
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their wives and their children.
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And I think that the enemy is after, after the men more.
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So right, because if you can get the men, yeah, he gets the leadership, he gets the head
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of the household that God has designed to build elite children and leave families.
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I think that then there's that domino effect, right?
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And so that's one of the reasons why we started with the men's program with our Green Bay
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campus is the man we believe that man, if we can get the men first, that man we can, we
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can stop the generational curse that's on the, you know, that carries down to children
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and grandchildren, right, of people struggling with addiction.
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So okay, we're going to take a brief pause here today, our guest, Vashon Johnson.
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And I want to give the website for men of iron conference.
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He's speaking there along with Pastor David Roth and Jonathan Brentner, who is just on
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the podcast week or so ago, men of ironconference.org, if you are in North East Wisconsin, men of ironconference.org.
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And so the website for adult and teen challenge here in our area, ATC, N-E-W dot com.
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So when we come back after our break, Vashon is going to share his story.
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He went through teen challenge in 2009 in Minnesota.
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Why did he have to go through that?
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What led to his addiction?
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We're going to talk about his story when we come back on World View Matters.
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Back to Vashon Johnson with adult and teen challenge, Northeast Wisconsin.
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So let's go back to Minnesota.
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That's where you're from.
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Yes.
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Go Vikings.
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Go Packers, go Vikings.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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As long as you don't say bears are good.
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I even like the lions, but anyway, so Vashon, take us back.
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You were going through the program.
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You went through successfully.
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I might look at you today.
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Yeah.
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So your story, his glory, God's glory.
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So before 2009, tell us what led to that.
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Yeah, you know, a little bit David about my upbringing, I grew up and I was, I'm the oldest
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of three boys.
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We're all you and a half apart from each other.
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Unfortunately, you know, I was born Galveston, Texas.
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I'm on migrated to Minnesota to get a fresh start.
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The reason for that fresh start is because she struggled with a cocaine addiction for
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my stuff, father.
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Wow.
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So I grew up in an addictive home, saw more things than any child should see, experienced
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homelessness, experience watching my parents, you know, hustle.
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We lived in cars and, you know, just, there was a lot of trauma right with that growing
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up as a young kid, by the grace of God, you know, I still abstain from drugs and
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alcohol.
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Had a lot of aunts, uncles or drug dealers growing up in interstate and many apples, you were
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surrounded by either gangs for me or people using drugs or alcoholics and so needless
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to say, you can become a product of your environment.
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That doesn't happen for everyone, but for me, me and my younger brothers, we gravitated
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to addiction in our teams.
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By the time I was 20, I was full bone alcoholic at this time, 21 drug dealer.
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So I started gravitating to cocaine, selling cocaine, using drugs, had a lot of run-ins
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with the law, high-speed chases, incarceration, DWI's, just really was on the pathway of
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destruction.
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How many years, you just mentioned a lot of things, you know, your addictions and DWI's
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and going to jail, was this like four or five years?
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It was the seven year span for me.
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From the time I started using at the age of 21 to about 28, when I would say that God
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apprehended me, right, by way of law enforcement.
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Was my wake up call, but I had lost my mother at 42 years old, she was 42, I was 22 at the
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time.
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So I had a 20 year old brother and a 18 year old brother who just made 18 and we lost our
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mother who was our world due to her alcohol addiction as such a young age.
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Needless to say, my life spiraled, you know, from 22 to 27.
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Life thinks it's got really dark, selling drugs, using drugs.
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It just became my coping mechanism really too.
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I was a young father.
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I became a teenage father at 19, so I had two kids at the time I was an addiction and because
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of my lifestyle, I became estranged from my kids.
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So there's that level of guilt and shame, right?
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And then feeling trapped in bondage and not knowing a way out.
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One of the things that I would say is that I was exposed to Christianity because my mother
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was a Southern woman.
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So though she struggled with addiction and things, she still exposed me and my brothers
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to church.
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So I understood who Christ was, I understood Jesus, I understood the basics, I did not understand
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relationship, right, which is two different things.
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I almost identified that I had religion, but didn't understand what it meant to have
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a relationship with Christ.
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That didn't come to later in 2008, as we shared that a man, God apprehended me.
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I was apprehended by law enforcement and Northern Minnesota, with a lot of drugs on me,
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a lot of cash on me, and it wasn't a matter of, if I was going to prison, it was how
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long.
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For how long?
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Yeah.
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How long?
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Did you serve the whole sentence or how did God reach me?
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Yeah, so how did God reach me was, you know, typically my story was because I had exposure
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to Christianity because God was a ATM machine, right?
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Like he was the, he was like, I throw a prayer in, I asked him to get me out of trouble,
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I make a promise that I'm not going to do it again.
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And then, you know, if God entered that prayer, which I believe he did a couple times leading
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up to this, this encounter in 2008, I would always go back to him.
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I would always go back to my addiction, but this time was different.
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I was in a world of trouble that no one else can get me out of, but God.
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And that was where I began to like seek the Lord through finding, you know, reading the
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Word.
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I was incarcerated for first degree drug crimes.
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I was looking at 120 months in prison.
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My two children at the time were six and seven.
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And so that would have been 12 years and by the time they would have grew up, if I would
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have got the 12 year sentence, they would have been adults by the time I got up.
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For me, that was my wake up call.
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Oh, my goodness.
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Yeah, I begin to seek the Lord's face and conditionally at first, it was just like, like
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I always had did before, it's like, God, give me out of trouble, please.
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I'm sorry, right?
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But thankfully, I was grateful that a jail minister in the jail will come in weekly and tell
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us it makes about Jesus.
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He, for the first time, he shared the gospel with me in a way that I had never heard it
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before.
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And which was through surrender, you know, and repentance and that if you're going to have
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a relationship with Jesus, that you're going to have the first, like, be willing to repent
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and surrender your life to him, which means that you can't play games.
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You got to be honest.
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You got to walk in truth.
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If you're guilty of the things that you're incarcerated for, you got to fessed up to
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it, right?
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So he's saying all of these things.
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And that's not what you want to hear as an inmate, right?
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Yeah.
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Like, that's not status quo conversation.
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It's happening amongst inmates in jail, especially with someone facing the type of crime
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I am.
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But yet, I hurt the Holy Spirit through those words.
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Wow.
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I felt like, man, I mean, it was seven or eight other inmates in this room as this pastor
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was sharing the gospel with us inmates.
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But I felt like he was talking directly to me, long story short, I went to my back to
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my cell that night.
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I got on my knees and I, man, I surrendered my life to Jesus.
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And I said, God, you know, even if it means you sent me to prison because I was deadly
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afraid of going to prison.
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I've been in county jail before, but this time, this crime was leading me to a for sure
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prison cell.
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And in that county jail, I just said, Lord, I surrender all to you.
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And whatever you want to do with my life, God, I just don't want this anymore.
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I don't want to be a fatherless dad to my children.
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I don't want to live this life anymore.
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Will you take my life?
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And I felt God's presence like never before and I always say this, I woke up the next
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day in the jail.
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So I have to say in that prayer that night, freer than I've ever felt in my life in a jail
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cell, right?
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Encarcerated, freer than I've ever felt in my life, yet still headed in the prison for
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12 years, as it seemed, but yet I had peace, I had the peace of God.
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By the way, I just want to interject powerful story for sure.
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If you guys haven't heard the song by Stephen Curtis Chapman, free, have you heard it?
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I haven't heard it yet.
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You're going to listen to it after this, free, because that's what he ministered.
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He went to the jail and there's someone that was on death row, and Stephen Curtis Chapman,
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the short story is, he was convicted.
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Here's this big contemporary Christian music star.
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He goes to the jail to minister to the guy that was on death row said, I am free.
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In here with Christ, then I ever was on the outside, so true.
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He wrote a song about Stephen Curtis Chapman.
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Look it up.
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Free.
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Anyway, so 12 years, but you didn't, this was 2008, you said you went through adult and teen
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challenges in 2009.
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How did that happen?
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Yeah, so I like to call that my miracle emergency.
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It was a miracle emergency.
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So I had never been a treatment before where I come from, like that's not a conversation
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you have about treatment, right?
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That's for the week.
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But in this situation, when I gave my life to the Lord and jail, another inmate had told
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me about Minnesota adult and teen challenges.
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I was incarcerated in a county jail in Minnesota.
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Never heard of a adult teen challenge, didn't know, again, never went to treatment before.
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He told me it was a Christian program because I had this conversion.
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A lot of the guys in inmates, I would watch, I would get it in the mornings and watch
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TBN, Trinity Broadcast Network and watch my Christian shows and I'm praying and I was fasting
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and they love you and they love you for fasting because you get to get their tray.
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You know, I was given to my tray and so there was a guy who called notice to that and
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native guy and jail and he was just like, hey, man, have you heard a teen challenge?
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I said, no, he gave me an application that he was holding for a while.
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He said, I'm not going.
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Maybe your lawyer can get you in long story short, filled out the application, sent it
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in to Minnesota, they sent me an acceptance letter, said, hey, if the judge would allow
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you to come to our program, we would accept you even though I had some egregious charges.
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Wow.
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And so it was like to me, that was like a miracle that they would accept me, but yet I still
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had a role to head in me where all pathways were leading the prison.
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Like again, I got caught with a lot of drugs and I got caught with a lot of money.
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So it was up to the judge who, I mean, spoiler alert, at this moment, we got four minutes
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left.
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Yeah.
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He gave you favor.
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Yeah.
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Tell that story.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, so, uh, after I got the application, got the acceptance letter, uh, talked to my
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attorney, said, hey, can I get in the teen challenge?
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He said, uh, all signs, he said, I talked to the prosecution.
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He said, they said, no, they want to make an example out of you that you came out up
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and took it.
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I would live the Minneapolis and I went up north to sell some drugs.
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They said, because you came up into this small town, they really want to make an example
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out of you.
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So he said, as much as I'm hopeful for you, it doesn't look like it's going to happen
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unless the judge decides on the day.
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So the best deal they can give me was they went from 120 months, prison time to 68 months
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from first degree to second degree.
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That was the best deal they could give me.
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I accepted that and I received that 68 months as God's grace, because I knew that I deserved
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to go to prison for 120 months.
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I knew I was guilty.
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Yeah.
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Nevertheless, on the day of sentencing, um, I already signed, it was just a formality.
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I was supposed to go to prison on that day, um, the judge decided against the prosecution,
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decided against everything and he decided to give me a second chance and he sent this
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me to adult teen challenge in Minnesota.
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Wow.
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So three minutes left.
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But Sean Johnson, you got to just share a little bit the success of that program in your
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life, because here you are, executive director of adult teen challenge in Northeast Wisconsin.
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Yes.
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Please tell us briefly.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Just briefly.
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So from there, I graduated.
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I walked in the doors of many of the brainer teen challenge in Minnesota, um, December 8th,
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2008, graduated December 30th, 2009, went to ministry school for two years, uh, start
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working at Minnesota adult teen challenge, worked my way up to management, ran a 60 bed
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men's facility in Minneapolis, um, went from there, went into prison ministry.
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So I always say, jail scared me to, uh, as prison scared me to Jesus and Jesus took me to
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prison.
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Yeah.
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Because, you know, and so I ended up working in prison ministry, but a ministry by the
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name of, uh, prison fellowship, Chuck Colson's ministry served their, um, ran a, a pod
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of 140 men, discipled.
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And then, um, in 2020, I got the call that they were looking to plan a adult teen challenge
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in Green Bay.
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Coming to Wisconsin.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And, uh, and I answered that call my wife and I and our two small children, um, praise
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God.
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Yeah.
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Thank you, Vashon.
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Friends, by the way, I don't want to go before I mentioned there is a donate button.
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At adult and teen challenge, ATC any W dot com, um, if you're in the area, great program,
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you can get a lot more information on there.
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But I'm looking at the, uh, success rates, 70%, 78% sobriety, meaning, uh, people remain
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adults and teens remain sober and substance free from eight to 20 months after they graduate,
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um, then 91% relationships reported that their relationships with family have improved.
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92% tell us about that one real quick recidivism rates, right?
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What does that mean?
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Um, that just means that no more legal problems, they don't go back to no more courts.
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Yeah.
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No more committing crimes, right?
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Um, and that's huge, you know, 92% said that they didn't report it.
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They had even more trouble after leaving our program.
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So it's a program that works for those who are willing and, um, and one freedom.
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So it sounds like it's got an incredible success, right?
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Yeah.
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It sounds like you guys do some amazing work.
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Yeah.
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You know, you, you spent three years raising money to get this going here in Green Bay,
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Brown County, North East Wisconsin.
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So, uh, brothers, that the best place to get a hold of you if they want to contact you.
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Yeah.
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So you can reach us at atcnew.com.
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You can put an application there right online or you can reach us at 920 930 2444.
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Perfect.
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Thank you.
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Oh, man.
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Wish we had more time.
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These are the podcasts where we've got an hour or more, but great story.
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God gets the glory.
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Amen.
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Yeah.
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So much for your time for coming in.
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So good to meet you, brother.
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May you too.
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Thanks, David.
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All right.
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Oh, guys, what a great, great story.
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I hope you're inspired and encouraged of what God can do.
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Um, and if you know anyone, um, chances are you might need something like this.
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Go to atcnew.com.
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God bless you.
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And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.