Latest / The Quark Side - Quantum Physics Podcast / Scientists Prove Atoms Can Exist in Two Places at Once
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the quart Side Quantum Physics Podcast, an exploration
- 0:05Speaker 1: of the fundamental structure of reality where quantum laws govern matter, energy,
- 0:11Speaker 1: and information. Here, uncertainty is a feature, not a flaw,
- 0:16Speaker 1: and understanding begins at the smallest scales.
- 0:27Speaker 2: I want you to try something for a second. Just
- 0:31Speaker 2: sit exactly where you are right now. Feel the weight
- 0:34Speaker 2: of your body in the chair or the ground beneath
- 0:38Speaker 2: your feet, Notice the temperature of the air, the ambient
- 0:41Speaker 2: sounds in the room. You are entirely physically present right
- 0:46Speaker 2: there in that one specific measurable coordinate in the.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Universe reality exactly. Yeah.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Now, I want you to imagine that at this exact
- 0:56Speaker 2: same millisecond, you are also sitting in the next room
- 0:59Speaker 2: over which is and I need to be incredibly precise here.
- 1:03Speaker 2: I do not mean a clone of you. No, I
- 1:05Speaker 2: don't mean a hologram or like a digital projection or
- 1:08Speaker 2: an identical twin. I mean your singular physical body, with
- 1:12Speaker 2: all its weight, its mass. That's atomic structure physically existing
- 1:16Speaker 2: in both locations at the exact same moment.
- 1:18Speaker 3: It creates a visceral sense of cognitive dissonance just trying
- 1:22Speaker 3: to picture it. It really does, because the human brain
- 1:25Speaker 3: simply hasn't evolved to process that kind of spatial paradox.
- 1:28Speaker 3: You know, everything about our everyday survival depends on objects
- 1:32Speaker 3: being in one definite place at one definite time. I mean,
- 1:36Speaker 3: the idea of a physical object occupying two separate spaces simultaneously.
- 1:41Speaker 3: It feels like a fundamental glitch in reality.
- 1:45Speaker 2: It sounds like pure unadulterated science fiction. Yeah. Absolutely, But
- 1:49Speaker 2: as of March twenty twenty six, it is no longer
- 1:52Speaker 2: a thought experiment.
- 1:53Speaker 3: It really isn't.
- 1:54Speaker 2: It is a documented, directly observed physical fact. Quantum physicists
- 1:59Speaker 2: have a fear caught pairs of atoms doing.
- 2:02Speaker 3: Exactly this, which is wild.
- 2:03Speaker 2: They forced physical matter to exist in two places at once.
- 2:07Speaker 2: So we are going to unpack how a team from
- 2:10Speaker 2: the Australian National University, specifically led by doctor Sean Hodgman,
- 2:14Speaker 2: along with lead author yogish Esethreea and some collaborators from
- 2:18Speaker 2: the University Queensland and Olahoma, how they actually achieved this.
- 2:21Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a massive breakthrough.
- 2:22Speaker 2: We're going to break down the sheer mechanical impossibility of
- 2:26Speaker 2: the maze they build to prove it.
- 2:27Speaker 3: The rarity tapster set up, yeah.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Exactly, and why it completely shatters our classical understanding of
- 2:33Speaker 2: reality and how catching these atoms red handed might solve
- 2:38Speaker 2: basically the single biggest, most stubborn mystery in the entire universe.
- 2:43Speaker 3: Which is the clash between quantum mechanics and gravity. Right
- 2:47Speaker 3: for a century, physics has just been staring at this massive,
- 2:51Speaker 3: irreconcilable paradox between how the very small behaves and how
- 2:56Speaker 3: the very heavy behaves, and this experiment is honestly the
- 3:00Speaker 3: first real bridge across that chasm.
- 3:02Speaker 2: I want to focus on that distinction between the very
- 3:04Speaker 2: small and the very heavy because I feel like we've
- 3:06Speaker 2: all read the pop science headlines about, you know, quantum weirdness.
- 3:10Speaker 3: Oh definitely, it's everywhere.
- 3:11Speaker 2: People hear words like superposition and entanglement all the time,
- 3:14Speaker 2: the idea of things being in two places at once
- 3:17Speaker 2: are communicating instantly across space. Hasn't this kind of thing
- 3:20Speaker 2: been done before? Right? Yea? My instinct is that this
- 3:23Speaker 2: isn't the first time scientists have shown something existing in
- 3:25Speaker 2: his superposition.
- 3:26Speaker 3: You're touching on a really crucial caveat there. It has
- 3:29Speaker 3: been done, but almost exclusively with light, photons or you know,
- 3:34Speaker 3: occasionally with atoms that are rigidly locked inside artificial magnetic
- 3:37Speaker 3: or optical traps, like completely immobilized, so they aren't moving exactly.
- 3:42Speaker 3: But doing this with freely moving atoms, atoms that have
- 3:46Speaker 3: actual mass, that are traveling untethered through physical space, that
- 3:51Speaker 3: is a completely different domain of physics. Wow, the A
- 3:55Speaker 3: and U team achieved what previous experiments could really only
- 3:58Speaker 3: vaguely hint at for massive particles.
- 4:01Speaker 2: So if I'm trying to like visualize the difference here,
- 4:04Speaker 2: doing this with light with photons, yeah, feels a bit
- 4:07Speaker 2: like throwing a shadow across a room.
- 4:09Speaker 3: Oh that's a good way to look at.
- 4:10Speaker 2: It, right, because you can split a shadow, you can
- 4:12Speaker 2: make it dance, you can project it onto two opposite
- 4:15Speaker 2: walls at the same time. Sure, it's eerie and it's
- 4:17Speaker 2: not intuitive, but a shadow is weightless.
- 4:21Speaker 3: Yeah, photon has no rest mass.
- 4:23Speaker 2: But doing this with an actual freely moving atom, that's
- 4:26Speaker 2: like taking a physical, leather stitched baseball, throwing it across
- 4:29Speaker 2: a field and demanding that it lands in two different
- 4:32Speaker 2: catchers mits at the exact same time exactly.
- 4:35Speaker 3: The baseball has weight, it has a physical presence, and
- 4:38Speaker 3: that transition from weightless light to a physical baseball fundamentally
- 4:43Speaker 3: alters the mathematics of the experiment. Why is that Because
- 4:47Speaker 3: mass is the anchor for gravity. Photons particles of light,
- 4:52Speaker 3: They just do not experience the universe the same way
- 4:54Speaker 3: a solid piece of matter does.
- 4:56Speaker 2: Right. Okay, when you.
- 4:57Speaker 3: Deal with photons, you are operating almost in highly within
- 5:00Speaker 3: the clean, isolated sandbox of quantum mechanics. Yeah, but the
- 5:04Speaker 3: moment you introduce freely moving atoms, you are suddenly forcing
- 5:09Speaker 3: quantum mechanics the physics of the microscopic, probabilistic world to
- 5:13Speaker 3: play in the exact same arena as.
- 5:15Speaker 2: Gravity, which is the macro world.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Right, which is the physics of the heavy deterministic world.
- 5:19Speaker 2: And those two rule books do not talk to each
- 5:22Speaker 2: other at all. Usually, the physics of the tiny and
- 5:24Speaker 2: the physics of the massive completely ignore one another. Like,
- 5:27Speaker 2: if I calculate the trajectory of a baseball, I don't
- 5:30Speaker 2: need to factor in the quantum superposition of its quarks.
- 5:33Speaker 3: No, you'd be laughed out of a physics class, right.
- 5:36Speaker 2: And if I'm looking at an electrone, its gravitational pull
- 5:39Speaker 2: is so infinitesimally small it doesn't even register in the math.
- 5:43Speaker 3: They are completely isolated regimes. But by taking an atom,
- 5:47Speaker 3: which is inherently a quantum object, and allowing it to
- 5:50Speaker 3: move freely with its mass, which makes it a gravitational object,
- 5:54Speaker 3: you are forcing an overlap. Wow, You're demanding that a
- 5:58Speaker 3: physical piece of matter stop acting like a solid, predictable
- 6:02Speaker 3: object governed by gravity and inertia, and start acting like
- 6:06Speaker 3: a probabilistic ghost.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Which begs the immediate mechanical question, right, how do you
- 6:11Speaker 2: physically force a piece of solid matter to give up
- 6:15Speaker 2: its solidity?
- 6:16Speaker 3: That's the challenge.
- 6:16Speaker 2: If I have a helium atom, and we'll get into
- 6:19Speaker 2: why they used a very specific type of helium later,
- 6:22Speaker 2: but how do I convince it to stop being a
- 6:24Speaker 2: tiny billiard ball and become a wave that can exist
- 6:27Speaker 2: in two places?
- 6:28Speaker 3: You strip away its energy. Ok, you have to subject
- 6:30Speaker 3: it to an environment so extreme that the fundamental classical
- 6:34Speaker 3: nature of the matter just begins to unravel. But freezing
- 6:36Speaker 3: it exactly, You have to freeze it to a temperature
- 6:39Speaker 3: or just fractions of a degree above absolute zero.
- 6:42Speaker 2: Let's bypass the basic idea of cold for a second,
- 6:45Speaker 2: because we aren't talking about ice cubes here. Now, we
- 6:47Speaker 2: aren't even talking about liquid nitrogen. When we say temperature
- 6:50Speaker 2: in physics, we are really just talking about speed, right.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Heat is vibration. If a cup of coffee is hot,
- 6:57Speaker 2: the molecules inside are vibrating in cream into each other frantically.
- 7:03Speaker 2: So when this team takes metastable helium four atoms and
- 7:07Speaker 2: plunges them down to near absolute zero, they aren't just
- 7:10Speaker 2: making them chilly. They are aggressively applying the brakes.
- 7:14Speaker 3: They are draining almost every single drop of kinetic energy
- 7:18Speaker 3: out of the system. I mean, at room temperature, the
- 7:20Speaker 3: atoms in the air around you are bouncing off each
- 7:23Speaker 3: other at hundreds of miles per hour. Their physical identity
- 7:26Speaker 3: as localized particles, as tiny hard dots, dominates their behavior
- 7:30Speaker 3: because they're constantly interacting, colliding, and defining their positions relative
- 7:34Speaker 3: to one another. But as you drain the heat, as
- 7:36Speaker 3: they slow down toward absolute zero, the rules of classical
- 7:40Speaker 3: physics begin to fail.
- 7:42Speaker 2: This is where we hit the wave particle duality, isn't it.
- 7:44Speaker 2: I think the textbook explanation is usually that everything is
- 7:47Speaker 2: both a particle and a wave, but that always felt
- 7:49Speaker 2: kind of abstract to me. I mean, if everything is
- 7:53Speaker 2: a wave, why doesn't my car smear out into a
- 7:55Speaker 2: wave when I park it in.
- 7:56Speaker 3: The driveway because of the de Brogley wavelength. Go on,
- 8:00Speaker 3: ugly wavelength. Every physical object has a wavelength associated with it,
- 8:04Speaker 3: but that wavelength is inversely proportional to its momentum. Oh
- 8:08Speaker 3: so your car is incredibly massive, right, so its wavelength
- 8:11Speaker 3: is unimaginably small, So small it's entirely undetectable. Even a
- 8:17Speaker 3: single atom at room temperature is moving fast enough that
- 8:20Speaker 3: its wavelength is basically negligible. It acts like a localized particle,
- 8:23Speaker 3: like a little dot exactly. But when you slow an
- 8:26Speaker 3: atom down to near absolute zero, its momentum drops to
- 8:30Speaker 3: almost nothing. And as momentum drops, the wavelength expands.
- 8:34Speaker 2: The physical boundaries of the atom literally begin to blur.
- 8:36Speaker 3: Yes, the atom smears out across space. It becomes less
- 8:40Speaker 3: of a thing located at a specific point and more
- 8:42Speaker 3: of a localized cloud of probability. And when you have
- 8:46Speaker 3: an entire group of these ultracold helium atoms confined together,
- 8:51Speaker 3: they're expanding. Waves begin to physically overlap.
- 8:54Speaker 2: I was trying to visualize how this overlapping works, and
- 8:57Speaker 2: tell me if this makes sense, go for it. Imagine
- 8:59Speaker 2: you're standing on a highway overpass at night, taking a
- 9:02Speaker 2: long exposure photograph of the traffic. Okay, at normal speeds,
- 9:06Speaker 2: the cars just look like streaks of light, right right,
- 9:09Speaker 2: You know, they are individual cars, but they're moving so
- 9:12Speaker 2: fast they leave a blurred trail on the camera. But
- 9:14Speaker 2: now imagine the cars themselves are actually stretching out, like
- 9:18Speaker 2: the physical metal of the cars is elongating as they
- 9:20Speaker 2: slow down. If they slow down enough, the front bumper
- 9:24Speaker 2: of one car stretches so far it overlaps with the
- 9:27Speaker 2: back bumper of the car in front of it. Yes,
- 9:29Speaker 2: eventually all the individual cars stretch and melt into one continuous,
- 9:33Speaker 2: unbroken ribbon of metal on the highway. You can't point
- 9:37Speaker 2: to a single car anymore. There's only the collective ribbon.
- 9:40Speaker 3: That is a perfect analogy. That is exactly the phenomenon
- 9:42Speaker 3: occurring in a Bose Einstein condensate.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Oh so that's what a BC is.
- 9:47Speaker 3: Yeah. The individual helium atoms lose their discrete identities. They
- 9:51Speaker 3: merge into a single macroscopic quantum state. The entire cloud
- 9:57Speaker 3: of atoms behaves as one single continuous matter wave.
- 10:00Speaker 2: So the team at A and U has this incredibly
- 10:03Speaker 2: fragile smeared out cloud of helium probability. Right, But just
- 10:09Speaker 2: having a Bose Einstein content state isn't enough to prove
- 10:12Speaker 2: an atom can be in two places at once. You
- 10:14Speaker 2: have to do something with it, right.
- 10:15Speaker 3: You have to force the waves to interact. You have
- 10:17Speaker 3: to create a state of entanglement between the constituent parts
- 10:20Speaker 3: of that wave.
- 10:21Speaker 2: How did you do that?
- 10:22Speaker 3: Well? The scientists took two of these bosones Doune condensates,
- 10:25Speaker 3: two of these smeared out quantum waves of helium, and
- 10:28Speaker 3: they smashed them into each other.
- 10:30Speaker 2: Smashing waves together sounds messy. I mean, I'm picturing two
- 10:33Speaker 2: ocean waves colliding and just exploding into white water and foam.
- 10:36Speaker 3: In classical physics, sure a collision is violent and chaotic,
- 10:40Speaker 3: but at near absolute zero in the quantum realm, the
- 10:43Speaker 3: collision is exquisitely precise. They use what is known as
- 10:47Speaker 3: enswave collision. Because the atoms are behaving as spherical waves
- 10:51Speaker 3: rather than hard spheres, they don't bounce off each other
- 10:54Speaker 3: with sharp angles.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Wait, how does enswave collision work If they aren't bouncing?
- 10:59Speaker 3: What are they think about dropping two pebbles into a
- 11:03Speaker 3: perfectly still glassy pond? Right next, to each other. Okay, Yeah,
- 11:07Speaker 3: the ripples spread outward as expanding perfect circles. When the
- 11:11Speaker 3: ripples from the first pebble intersect with the ripples from
- 11:14Speaker 3: the second pebble, they don't ricochet.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Backward, right, They pass right through exactly.
- 11:18Speaker 3: They pass through each other. As they overlap. They create
- 11:22Speaker 3: a complex symmetrical interference pattern, places where the water peaks
- 11:26Speaker 3: higher and places where it flattens out entirely.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Oh, I could picture that that spherically.
- 11:30Speaker 3: Symmetric scattering is the hallmark of an ouswave collision. As
- 11:34Speaker 3: these two BC clouds pass through each other, individual pairs
- 11:38Speaker 3: of helium atoms scatter out of the collision in a
- 11:40Speaker 3: spherical halo.
- 11:41Speaker 2: Okay, so, out of this incredibly gentle overlapping interference pattern,
- 11:45Speaker 2: individual pairs of helium atoms emerge, flying away in opposite directions.
- 11:50Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 11:50Speaker 2: But because they were born from this unified, smeared out
- 11:53Speaker 2: wave state, they aren't just two independent atoms anymore. They
- 11:58Speaker 2: are tethered.
- 11:59Speaker 3: They emerge in a state of momentum entanglement.
- 12:02Speaker 2: Momentum entanglement. This is what I want to pause, because
- 12:05Speaker 2: understanding this specific type of entanglement seems to be the
- 12:10Speaker 2: entire key to why this March twenty twenty six paper
- 12:14Speaker 2: is such a massive breakthrough.
- 12:16Speaker 3: It absolutely is.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Let's break down the difference because when I hear about
- 12:20Speaker 2: quantum computing or previous entanglement experiments, they usually talk about
- 12:24Speaker 2: entangling the spin of an electron or the polarization of
- 12:28Speaker 2: a photon.
- 12:29Speaker 3: Right, and spin and polarization are internal states. Okay, you
- 12:32Speaker 3: can think of them as internal properties of the object itself,
- 12:36Speaker 3: independent of how the object is moving through the world.
- 12:38Speaker 3: Like if you have a spinning top, whether you carry
- 12:40Speaker 3: it across the room or leave it on the table,
- 12:42Speaker 3: it's internal rotation. Its spin remains its own discrete property.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Makes sense.
- 12:47Speaker 3: Entangling internal states has been done for decades. It's profoundly strange,
- 12:51Speaker 3: but it doesn't fundamentally challenge or understanding of mass moving
- 12:55Speaker 3: through gravity.
- 12:55Speaker 2: But momentum is fundamentally different. Yes, momentum isn't about what
- 12:59Speaker 2: the the atom is on the inside. It's a description
- 13:02Speaker 2: of where the mass is located and how fast it
- 13:05Speaker 2: is traveling through physical.
- 13:06Speaker 3: Space, exactly external motional degrees of freedom, external motional Right.
- 13:11Speaker 3: By entangling the momentum of these massive helium atoms, the
- 13:15Speaker 3: scientists aren't linking a hidden internal property. They are linking
- 13:19Speaker 3: the physical spatial trajectory of matter.
- 13:22Speaker 2: So if atom A and atom B fly out of
- 13:25Speaker 2: this swave collision, their physical journey through space is mathematically
- 13:29Speaker 2: locked together. Yes, but it's locked together in a state
- 13:32Speaker 2: of superposition.
- 13:33Speaker 3: This is the crux of Einstein's spooky action. At a distance.
- 13:37Speaker 3: While those two atoms are flying through the vacuum chamber,
- 13:40Speaker 3: their individual momentum simply does not exist in a definite state. Wait, really, truly,
- 13:45Speaker 3: Atome A is not traveling left at one meter per
- 13:47Speaker 3: second and atom B is not traveling right at one
- 13:49Speaker 3: meter per second. Yeah, they exist as a blur of
- 13:52Speaker 3: all possible momenta within that spherical halo. They don't have
- 13:56Speaker 3: a defined location or.
- 13:57Speaker 2: Speed until you measure them.
- 13:59Speaker 3: Right the instant you place a detector in the path
- 14:02Speaker 3: of Adam A and force it to register a definite
- 14:05Speaker 3: physical hit, its wave function collapses. Okay, it assumes a
- 14:09Speaker 3: specific classical momentum, and at that exact instantaneous moment, regardless
- 14:15Speaker 3: of the physical distance separating them, Adam B instantaneously snaps
- 14:19Speaker 3: out of its superposition and assumes the perfectly correlated opposite momentum.
- 14:23Speaker 2: Okay, here's where my classical brain just force fully rebels
- 14:26Speaker 2: against the physics.
- 14:27Speaker 3: I get it.
- 14:28Speaker 2: It's tough because if I hear that two things fly apart,
- 14:31Speaker 2: and when I measure one, I instantly know the state
- 14:34Speaker 2: of the other, my immediate thought is that there is
- 14:37Speaker 2: nothing spooky happening at all. Sure, let me run a
- 14:39Speaker 2: classical scenario by you. Let's say I have a pair
- 14:42Speaker 2: of gloves, a left glove and a right glove. Okay,
- 14:45Speaker 2: I put them in identical, unmarked boxes. I give one
- 14:47Speaker 2: box to a friend who gets on a rocket ship
- 14:49Speaker 2: and travels to Mars. I keep the other box here
- 14:52Speaker 2: on Earth.
- 14:52Speaker 3: The classic hidden variable argument, Right, If I open my
- 14:56Speaker 3: box on Earth and I see that I have the
- 14:57Speaker 3: left glove, I.
- 14:59Speaker 2: Instantaneously, with absolutely one hundred percent mathematical certainty, that my
- 15:03Speaker 2: friend on Mars has the right glove. The information traveled
- 15:06Speaker 2: faster than light. Sure, but there was no spooky magical connection.
- 15:10Speaker 2: There were a left glove and a right glove from
- 15:12Speaker 2: the exact second I packed the boxes. I just didn't
- 15:15Speaker 2: know which was which until.
- 15:17Speaker 3: I looked exactly So, why couldn't.
- 15:19Speaker 2: These helium atoms just be a pair of gloves? Why
- 15:21Speaker 2: couldn't they have pre agreed on their momentum during the collision,
- 15:25Speaker 2: packed that information away internally, and just flown apart as
- 15:28Speaker 2: perfectly normal definite particles.
- 15:31Speaker 3: You are articulating the exact skepticism that kept Albert Einstein
- 15:35Speaker 3: awake at night.
- 15:35Speaker 2: Really. Oh yeah.
- 15:37Speaker 3: Einstein despised the idea that the universe was probabilistic at
- 15:40Speaker 3: its core, and he hated the implication of instantaneous communication
- 15:44Speaker 3: across space.
- 15:45Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense.
- 15:46Speaker 3: He proposed the exact same solution you just did, that
- 15:49Speaker 3: the particles must carry a hidden instruction manual. In physics,
- 15:53Speaker 3: we call this the theory of local hidden variables.
- 15:56Speaker 2: Leucal hidden variables.
- 15:57Speaker 3: Yeah, local meaning the information is content within the particle itself,
- 16:02Speaker 3: and hidden meaning we just haven't figured out how to
- 16:04Speaker 3: read it yet.
- 16:04Speaker 2: It's the most logical, comforting explanation it really is. It
- 16:08Speaker 2: preserves reality. It means the moon is still there even
- 16:11Speaker 2: when you weren't looking at it.
- 16:12Speaker 3: It does. But the genius of modern physics is that
- 16:16Speaker 3: we didn't just argue about it philosophically. We figured out
- 16:19Speaker 3: how to test it. Okay, we figured out a way
- 16:21Speaker 3: to prove whether the atoms had a secret instruction manual
- 16:25Speaker 3: or if the state truly did not exist until the
- 16:28Speaker 3: moment of measurement.
- 16:28Speaker 2: Which brings us to the maze. Yes, because to prove
- 16:31Speaker 2: they don't have a pre agreed plan, you have to
- 16:34Speaker 2: test the atoms in a way they could possibly anticipate
- 16:37Speaker 2: when they were created exactly. And the A and U
- 16:39Speaker 2: team did this using a mechanism called a rarity tapster
- 16:42Speaker 2: interferometer setup. Right now, I understand an interferometer conceptually uses interference,
- 16:48Speaker 2: but how do you physically build a maze for a
- 16:50Speaker 2: wave of matter? If it's a wave, it's spreading out,
- 16:54Speaker 2: how do you channel it?
- 16:55Speaker 3: Use light to build the walls of the maze?
- 16:57Speaker 2: Light?
- 16:58Speaker 3: Yeah, the rarity test are your parrometer doesn't use physical
- 17:01Speaker 3: mirrors or glass beam splitters like you would use for
- 17:04Speaker 3: a laser beam. Because we are dealing with massive helium atoms.
- 17:08Speaker 3: Physical barriers would just absorb or destroy them.
- 17:11Speaker 2: Oh, that makes sense.
- 17:12Speaker 3: Instead, the team uses highly calibrated pulses of laser light.
- 17:17Speaker 3: When the helium atom encounters the laser pulse, it undergoes
- 17:20Speaker 3: what is called brag scattering.
- 17:22Speaker 2: Brag scattering, Yeah.
- 17:24Speaker 3: The laser light physically kicks the atom, splitting the matterwave
- 17:28Speaker 3: into two divergent paths simultaneously.
- 17:30Speaker 2: Wait, the laser pulse literally cuts the atom's prodability wave
- 17:34Speaker 2: in half.
- 17:34Speaker 3: Essentially, yes, that's insane. The matterwave of the single atom
- 17:38Speaker 3: is now traveling down two distinct physical paths inside the
- 17:41Speaker 3: vacuum chamber. At the same time, the atom is exploring
- 17:45Speaker 3: both routes of the maze simultaneously. And they do this
- 17:48Speaker 3: for both adam A and atom B.
- 17:49Speaker 2: So atom A is split into two pads on the
- 17:52Speaker 2: left side of the room, and atom B is split
- 17:54Speaker 2: into two paths on the right side of the room.
- 17:56Speaker 3: Now comes the critical part, the part that traps the
- 17:59Speaker 3: hidden variables. How while the matterwaves are in transit traveling
- 18:02Speaker 3: down these split paths, the scientists actively change the layout
- 18:06Speaker 3: of the maze.
- 18:06Speaker 2: They change it.
- 18:07Speaker 3: They alter what is called the interferometric phase.
- 18:10Speaker 2: What does altering the phase actually mean in this context?
- 18:12Speaker 2: Are they like lengthening the path?
- 18:15Speaker 3: You can think of phase as the alignment of the
- 18:17Speaker 3: waves peaks and troughs. If you slightly delay one path
- 18:21Speaker 3: relative to the other, perhaps by applying a subtle magnetic
- 18:24Speaker 3: field or tweaking the timing of the laser pulses, you
- 18:28Speaker 3: shift the wave. When you eventually recombine the two paths
- 18:32Speaker 3: at the end of the maze. How those peaks and
- 18:34Speaker 3: troughs align determines where the atom will be detected. If
- 18:38Speaker 3: the peaks align, you get constructive interference and the atom
- 18:41Speaker 3: hits detector one. If a peak aligns with a trough,
- 18:45Speaker 3: you get destructive interference and the atom hits detector two.
- 18:49Speaker 3: By rapidly and randomly changing these phases, while the atoms
- 18:52Speaker 3: are already in flight, the scientists are constantly changing the
- 18:55Speaker 3: questions they are asking the atoms.
- 18:57Speaker 2: Oh, I see the trap. If the atoms we're just
- 19:00Speaker 2: a pair of gloves, their hidden instruction manual would have
- 19:03Speaker 2: been written at the exact moment of the initial collision. Yes,
- 19:07Speaker 2: but there is absolutely no way the instruction manual could
- 19:10Speaker 2: contain the answers to questions that the scientists hadn't even
- 19:12Speaker 2: decided to ask yet. The layout of the maze is
- 19:15Speaker 2: changing after the atoms leave the starting.
- 19:17Speaker 3: Line, precisely if they are operating on hidden variables, their
- 19:22Speaker 3: coordination can only be so good they will inevitably make
- 19:25Speaker 3: mistakes when faced with unpredictable maze configurations. Okay, there is
- 19:30Speaker 3: a strict mathematical ceiling on how correlated their final detector
- 19:34Speaker 3: hits can be if they are relying on prepackaged instructions.
- 19:37Speaker 3: This ceiling is dictated by Bell's theorem.
- 19:40Speaker 2: So the scientists sit at the end of this laser
- 19:42Speaker 2: maze and they record the detector hits for Adam A
- 19:45Speaker 2: and Adam B across thousands and thousands of trials under
- 19:49Speaker 2: all these rapidly shifting phase configurations, and they analyze the
- 19:53Speaker 2: joint probabilities.
- 19:54Speaker 3: Joint probabilities simply means we don't care what Adam A
- 19:57Speaker 3: does in isolation. We only care about the correlation when
- 20:01Speaker 3: Adam A goes to its detector ie, how often does
- 20:04Speaker 3: Adam B go to its detector two? Given the specific
- 20:07Speaker 3: phase settings of both mazes at that exact microsecond and
- 20:10Speaker 3: the results, the correlations blasted right through the classical ceiling.
- 20:13Speaker 2: Wow.
- 20:14Speaker 3: The joint probabilities recorded by the A and U team
- 20:17Speaker 3: exhibited strong Bell correlations that are mathematically impossible under the
- 20:21Speaker 3: framework of local hidden variables.
- 20:22Speaker 2: So Einstein was wrong.
- 20:24Speaker 3: He was. The degree of synchronization between the momenta of
- 20:27Speaker 3: these two freely flying helium atoms was so profound, so
- 20:33Speaker 3: flawlessly correlated despite the random phase changes, that it ruled
- 20:36Speaker 3: out any possibility of a pre existing instruction manual.
- 20:39Speaker 2: Which leaves only one possible conclusion. Yeah, the state of
- 20:43Speaker 2: the momentum genuinely physically did not exist. While the atoms
- 20:47Speaker 2: were flying through the maze, they were a pure blur
- 20:50Speaker 2: of probability. Yep. And the moment Adam A hit the
- 20:52Speaker 2: detector and was forced to choose a physical reality. It
- 20:56Speaker 2: instantly across physical space, forced Adam B to was soon
- 21:00Speaker 2: the corresponding physical reality.
- 21:02Speaker 3: The measurement didn't just reveal the state. The measurement created
- 21:06Speaker 3: the state for both particles simultaneously.
- 21:08Speaker 2: The glove analogy is dead completely. Did It's more like
- 21:11Speaker 2: I open my box and inside is a vibrating sphere
- 21:14Speaker 2: of raw, undefined matter that is rapidly cycling through every
- 21:18Speaker 2: possible shape.
- 21:18Speaker 3: Yeah, that's better.
- 21:19Speaker 2: And the exact millisecond I look at it, it instantly
- 21:23Speaker 2: freezes into the shape of a left glove, and at
- 21:26Speaker 2: that exact precise millisecond, no matter how many miles away
- 21:29Speaker 2: it is, the other chaotic sphere of matter instantly freezes
- 21:33Speaker 2: into a right glove.
- 21:35Speaker 3: That's a great way to picture it.
- 21:36Speaker 2: They coordinate their physical form in real time completely bypassing
- 21:41Speaker 2: the speed of light.
- 21:42Speaker 3: It is a stunning realization. I mean when you scale
- 21:45Speaker 3: this up from weightless photons to massive atoms moving through space,
- 21:49Speaker 3: the philosophical weight of it becomes staggering.
- 21:52Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 21:52Speaker 3: Doctor Sean Hodgman himself articulated this beautifully. He said, it's
- 21:56Speaker 3: really weird for us to think that this is how
- 21:58Speaker 3: the universe works. It's really weird to think that a
- 22:01Speaker 3: particle can be in two places at once.
- 22:04Speaker 2: I love that quote. It strips away all the sterile
- 22:06Speaker 2: academic posturing, doesn't it. Even the researchers who spent years
- 22:10Speaker 2: building this microscopic fun house, who crunched the mathematics of
- 22:13Speaker 2: quantum mechanics every single day, look at the final data
- 22:16Speaker 2: and essentially say this is deeply unnervingly strange.
- 22:20Speaker 3: It really is. And the lead author, Yogish Esathrea, pointed
- 22:24Speaker 3: out that this wasn't just a theoretical victory, but a
- 22:27Speaker 3: monumental triumph of experimental engineering.
- 22:30Speaker 2: Right because other people have tried this.
- 22:32Speaker 3: Many teams have tried to do this with massive particles
- 22:34Speaker 3: before and failed.
- 22:36Speaker 2: Why is it so hard to actually pull off?
- 22:38Speaker 3: Maintaining a superposition of a massive particle is incredibly fraught.
- 22:44Speaker 3: We talked about how fragile a Bose Einstein condensate it is.
- 22:47Speaker 2: Yeah, the smeared out wighs.
- 22:48Speaker 3: A single stray photon from the room, a microscopic fluctuation
- 22:52Speaker 3: in the magnetic shielding, a subtle vibration from the building,
- 22:57Speaker 3: any tiny interaction with the outside world causes e coherence ecoherence. Yeah,
- 23:02Speaker 3: the wave function collapses prematurely. The atom snaps back into
- 23:06Speaker 3: being a classical, predictable billiard ball before it ever reaches
- 23:09Speaker 3: the detectors.
- 23:10Speaker 2: Which is why the specific choice of the atom they
- 23:13Speaker 2: used was an arbitrary You couldn't just throw this experiment
- 23:16Speaker 2: together with carbon or oxygen.
- 23:17Speaker 3: No, definitely not.
- 23:18Speaker 2: We mentioned earlier that the Aight and U team utilized
- 23:21Speaker 2: a clever trick by choosing matastable helium four. Why is
- 23:25Speaker 2: metastable helium the key to keeping this fragile superposition intact
- 23:29Speaker 2: long enough to measure it.
- 23:31Speaker 3: It's all about finding an atom that satisfies a deeply
- 23:33Speaker 3: contradictory set of experimental demands. Okay, First, as we established,
- 23:38Speaker 3: the goal is to observe momentum entanglement in a massive particle. Therefore,
- 23:43Speaker 3: it must have mass, but it cannot be too massive.
- 23:47Speaker 2: Because if you try to push a heavy atom with
- 23:49Speaker 2: a laser, the laser won't have enough force exactly.
- 23:52Speaker 3: The laser pulses act as the walls of our maize,
- 23:55Speaker 3: relying on momentum transfer from the photons to the atom.
- 23:59Speaker 3: If you use the heavy element like rubidium or caesium,
- 24:02Speaker 3: the kinetic energy required to split their wave functions cleanly
- 24:05Speaker 3: becomes really difficult to manage.
- 24:07Speaker 2: Ah, okay.
- 24:08Speaker 3: Helium is the second lightest element in the periodic table.
- 24:11Speaker 3: It possesses undeniable mass, confirming its interaction with gravity, but
- 24:15Speaker 3: it remains light enough to be elegantly and precisely steered
- 24:18Speaker 3: by the brags scattering lasers.
- 24:20Speaker 2: Okay, so it has the perfect Goldilocks mass. But what
- 24:24Speaker 2: does the metastable part mean? What makes metastable helium different
- 24:28Speaker 2: from the helium I put in a party balloon.
- 24:30Speaker 3: A metestable atom is an atom that has been electronically
- 24:34Speaker 3: excited to a higher energy state, but due to strict
- 24:37Speaker 3: quantum mechanical selection rules, it is essentially forbidden from releasing
- 24:42Speaker 3: that energy and dropping back down to its ground state.
- 24:45Speaker 2: So it's like holding its breath.
- 24:47Speaker 3: That's an excellent way to conceptualize it. Normally, if you
- 24:49Speaker 3: pump an atom full of energy and electron jumps to
- 24:52Speaker 3: a higher orbit, and almost instantaneously it drops back down,
- 24:55Speaker 3: spitting out a photon of light in the process. But
- 24:58Speaker 3: in metastable helium, for the excite state is exceptionally long lived.
- 25:02Speaker 3: It carries a massive internal payload of energy nearly twenty
- 25:05Speaker 3: electron volts, and it holds onto it while it flies
- 25:08Speaker 3: through the entire length of the interferometer.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Why is it useful for the atom to carry around
- 25:13Speaker 2: a payload of pent up energy.
- 25:14Speaker 3: It solves the final most critical problem of the experiment detection.
- 25:19Speaker 3: When you are calculating Bell correlations, your detection efficiency has
- 25:23Speaker 3: to be near perfect. If an entangled pair of atoms
- 25:27Speaker 3: goes through the maze and your detector only catches one
- 25:30Speaker 3: of them while missing the other, your joint probability data
- 25:33Speaker 3: is ruined.
- 25:34Speaker 2: Oh, because you can't compare them exactly.
- 25:36Speaker 3: You need to be absolutely certain you are detecting every
- 25:39Speaker 3: single atom that hits the end of the maze, and.
- 25:42Speaker 2: A normal, unexcited helium atom at near absolute zero isn't
- 25:47Speaker 2: going to hit the detector very hard.
- 25:48Speaker 3: It would barely register. It would be a microscopic silent
- 25:52Speaker 3: tap on the detector plate, right, But a metastable helium
- 25:55Speaker 3: atom is different. When it finally strikes the microchannel plate
- 25:58Speaker 3: detector at the end of the inner chrometer, it undergoes
- 26:01Speaker 3: a process called penning ionization.
- 26:04Speaker 2: Penning ionization.
- 26:05Speaker 3: Yes, it violently releases all twenty electron volts of its
- 26:09Speaker 3: pent up energy in a single explosive burst. Oh.
- 26:13Speaker 2: That is brilliant, isn't it. It's essentially a tracer bullet.
- 26:16Speaker 2: It carries so much internal unstable energy that when it
- 26:20Speaker 2: finally makes contact with the detector, it absolutely screams its arrival.
- 26:24Speaker 2: The detector doesn't have to strain to hear a quiet tap.
- 26:27Speaker 2: The atom triggers a massive electronic cascade. It makes single
- 26:31Speaker 2: particle detection incredibly efficient and unambiguous.
- 26:35Speaker 3: It is a master stroke of experimental design. The medestoable
- 26:38Speaker 3: helium has the mass to bridge the gap into gravitational physics,
- 26:43Speaker 3: the lightness to be manipulated by lasers, the internal stability
- 26:46Speaker 3: to survive the maze, and the explosive energy to be
- 26:50Speaker 3: perfectly counted at the finish line.
- 26:52Speaker 2: Wow.
- 26:52Speaker 3: That unique combination is what finally allowed A. THREEA. Hodgmen
- 26:56Speaker 3: and the team to produce clean undeniable data.
- 27:00Speaker 2: So we have established the mechanism. Yeah, we've explored the dpres,
- 27:03Speaker 2: the swave collision, the laser maze, and the brilliant tracer
- 27:06Speaker 2: bullet detection system. The A and U team has definitively
- 27:10Speaker 2: proven that massive particles can exist in a superposition of
- 27:13Speaker 2: momentum and can be entangled across space.
- 27:16Speaker 3: They absolutely have.
- 27:17Speaker 2: But proving Einstein wrong about hidden variables, while historically satisfying,
- 27:21Speaker 2: is really just the starting line for what this means
- 27:23Speaker 2: for the.
- 27:24Speaker 3: Future of physical Oh yeah, this is just the beginning.
- 27:26Speaker 2: Because this opens new possibilities for testing the interface between
- 27:29Speaker 2: quantum mechanics and general relativity. Let's tackle the white whale.
- 27:35Speaker 2: Why is this specific experiment the bridge to quantum gravity.
- 27:39Speaker 3: Well, to understand why this is the bridge, we have
- 27:41Speaker 3: to look at why the two theories fail to connect. Okay,
- 27:45Speaker 3: general relativity, Einstein's masterpiece, describes gravity not as a pulling force,
- 27:51Speaker 3: but as the warping of space time itself. A massive
- 27:54Speaker 3: object like a planet or a star, creates a curve
- 27:57Speaker 3: in the fabric of space, and other objects fall that curve.
- 28:01Speaker 3: It is a smooth, continuous, deterministic theory.
- 28:04Speaker 2: So space time is like a trampoline, and mass is
- 28:06Speaker 2: a bowling ball sitting in the middle, warping the fabric exactly.
- 28:09Speaker 3: But quantum mechanics is fundamentally different. It is pixelated, jumpy,
- 28:13Speaker 3: and probabilistic. It dictates that at the smallest scales, energy
- 28:17Speaker 3: and matter exist in discrete packets or quanta. It says
- 28:20Speaker 3: that objects do not have definite properties or locations until
- 28:24Speaker 3: they are measured.
- 28:25Speaker 2: And when physicists try to take the math of general
- 28:27Speaker 2: relativity and apply it to the pixelated, jumpy world of
- 28:30Speaker 2: quantum mechanics, the equations.
- 28:31Speaker 3: Break, They catastrophically fail, they produce infinities, They output mathematical nonsense.
- 28:37Speaker 3: We just have no working theory of quantum gravity. We
- 28:40Speaker 3: do not know how gravity behaves at the microscopic scale,
- 28:43Speaker 3: or how quantum objects generate.
- 28:45Speaker 2: Gravity, which brings us to the staggering implication of this experiment.
- 28:49Speaker 2: We just spent the last half hour establishing that these
- 28:52Speaker 2: metastable helium atoms have mass. Yes, because they have mass,
- 28:56Speaker 2: general relativity mandates that they must warped space time must
- 29:00Speaker 2: generate a gravitational field, no matter how small.
- 29:03Speaker 3: Correct.
- 29:03Speaker 2: But we also just proved that these massive atoms can
- 29:07Speaker 2: exist in a superposition, they can exist in two completely
- 29:10Speaker 2: separate physical locations at the exact same time.
- 29:13Speaker 3: This is where the physics gets incredibly profound.
- 29:15Speaker 2: If an atom with mass is simultaneously existing in location
- 29:18Speaker 2: A in location B, does its gravitational field also exist
- 29:22Speaker 2: in two places at once?
- 29:23Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 29:24Speaker 2: Does it warp the fabric of space time from two
- 29:26Speaker 2: different coordinates simultaneously? Is gravity itself forced into a state
- 29:30Speaker 2: of quantum superposition?
- 29:31Speaker 3: That is the most important unanswered question in modern physics.
- 29:35Speaker 3: The physicist Roger Penrose hypothesized that the universe might actually
- 29:40Speaker 3: forbid gravity from entering a superposition oh wow. He suggested
- 29:44Speaker 3: that the moment and objects superposed gravitational fields differ by
- 29:48Speaker 3: a certain amount of energy, the universe forces the wave
- 29:51Speaker 3: function to collapse. That gravity itself might be the mechanism
- 29:55Speaker 3: that destroys superposition and forces reality to be solid.
- 29:58Speaker 2: But up until now, we couldn't test Penrose's idea, right,
- 30:02Speaker 2: We couldn't test any theories of chronum gravity because we
- 30:05Speaker 2: could only do superposition experiments with weightless photons that don't
- 30:08Speaker 2: warp spacetime the same way, or with atoms that were
- 30:11Speaker 2: too small and rigidly trapped to measure their gravitational effects
- 30:14Speaker 2: dynamically precisely.
- 30:15Speaker 3: This March twenty twenty six experiment changes the entire landscape.
- 30:19Speaker 3: It provides a proven functional platform for manipulating massive particles
- 30:23Speaker 3: in macroscopic superpositions.
- 30:25Speaker 2: That's huge.
- 30:26Speaker 3: Future iterations of this experiment won't just look at bell correlations.
- 30:30Speaker 3: They will scale up the mass. They will put heavier
- 30:33Speaker 3: and heavier atoms into the rarity taps or interferometer. They
- 30:36Speaker 3: will measure how the Earth's massive gravitational field interacts with
- 30:40Speaker 3: the entangled momenta of falling atoms.
- 30:42Speaker 2: They can literally watch a particle fall through gravity while
- 30:45Speaker 2: it's in two places at once.
- 30:47Speaker 3: Yes, if we can observe how gravitational gradients affect the
- 30:51Speaker 3: phase of an entangled massive particle, or if we can
- 30:54Speaker 3: measure the threshold where a massive superposition collapses under its
- 30:58Speaker 3: own gravitational weight, we will finally have empirical data for
- 31:02Speaker 3: quantum gravity. Wow, we will finally have the clues needed
- 31:05Speaker 3: to write a unified theory of everything.
- 31:08Speaker 2: It is awe inspiring to think that a vacuum chamber
- 31:11Speaker 2: in Australia might hold the key to unifying the entire
- 31:14Speaker 2: universe's rule book. It really is, But the implications of
- 31:17Speaker 2: controlling massive entanglement aren't just confined to theoretical physics. We're
- 31:21Speaker 2: also looking at immediate, tangible applications. If we have mastered
- 31:25Speaker 2: the ability to entangle the motional degrees of freedom of
- 31:30Speaker 2: actual matter, what does that mean for the technology we
- 31:33Speaker 2: are trying to build today?
- 31:34Speaker 3: The most immediate technological revolution will be in quantum computing
- 31:38Speaker 3: and quantum sensing.
- 31:39Speaker 2: Okay, so quantum computers use quibbitts, which leverage superpositions to
- 31:44Speaker 2: be a zero, a one, or both simultaneously right, allowing
- 31:47Speaker 2: them to process complex calculations exponentially faster than classical supercomputers.
- 31:53Speaker 2: But they are notoriously finicky.
- 31:55Speaker 3: They are incredibly fragile. Currently, most quibbits rely on those
- 31:59Speaker 3: internal states we discussed earlier, the spin of an electron
- 32:03Speaker 3: or the polarization of a photon. Because those states are
- 32:06Speaker 3: so delicate, the slightest thermal fluctuation, a stray, magnetic field,
- 32:10Speaker 3: or a cosmic ray passing through the laboratory causes decoherence.
- 32:14Speaker 3: The quibot loses its quantum nature, the superposition collapses, and
- 32:18Speaker 3: the calculation fails.
- 32:20Speaker 2: So how does entangling the physical momentum of a massive
- 32:23Speaker 2: atom help solve the fragility problem.
- 32:25Speaker 3: Because massive atoms are inherently less susceptible to certain types
- 32:29Speaker 3: of environmental noise than internal electron states. Oh really Yeah,
- 32:33Speaker 3: If we can build quantum logic gaits that operate on
- 32:36Speaker 3: the motional entanglement of massive particles using their physical trajectories
- 32:40Speaker 3: rather than their internal spins, we could theoretically construct quantum
- 32:44Speaker 3: systems that are vastly more robust. The mass provides a
- 32:48Speaker 3: stabilizing anchor against certain types of decoherence.
- 32:51Speaker 2: And what about quantum sensing? What could a sensor built
- 32:54Speaker 2: out of entangled massive atoms actually do well?
- 32:57Speaker 3: Because these atoms are in a superposition of moments, and
- 33:00Speaker 3: because they have mass, they are unimaginable sensitive to inertial
- 33:04Speaker 3: and gravitational forces. Okay, imagine a quantum sensor based on
- 33:09Speaker 3: this A and U technology placed inside a submarine. Currently,
- 33:12Speaker 3: a submarine deep underwater cannot use GPS radio waves don't
- 33:16Speaker 3: penetrate the ocean effectively. It relies on classical accelerometers, which
- 33:21Speaker 3: slowly drift and accumulate errors over days and weeks.
- 33:24Speaker 2: But a quantum sensor using entangled massive tarticles wouldn't drift.
- 33:27Speaker 3: It would be absolute. The phase shifts in the matter
- 33:29Speaker 3: wave interferometer are so hypersensitive to gravity that the submarine
- 33:33Speaker 3: could navigate by mapping the microscopic variations in the gravitational
- 33:36Speaker 3: field of the ocean floor beneath it.
- 33:38Speaker 2: That's incredible.
- 33:39Speaker 3: It would know its exact position on the planet without
- 33:42Speaker 3: ever needing to communicate with the satellite. Similarly, these sensors
- 33:46Speaker 3: could detect underground mineral deposits, hidden magma chambers preceding a
- 33:50Speaker 3: volcanic eruption, or microscopic shifts in tectonic plates.
- 33:55Speaker 2: It turns the spoky weirdness of quantum mechanics into the
- 33:59Speaker 2: ultimate geological companies. Basically, yeah, that's incredible, But as fascinating
- 34:03Speaker 2: as the earth bound tech is, I want to pivot
- 34:06Speaker 2: to the largest possible scale.
- 34:07Speaker 3: Let's do it.
- 34:08Speaker 2: Because this experiment also connects to the cosmos. It helps
- 34:11Speaker 2: model the early universe quantum fluctuations that seeded galaxy formation.
- 34:17Speaker 2: How does an ultra cold helium atom in a lab
- 34:20Speaker 2: explain the birth of galaxies?
- 34:22Speaker 3: It's all about scale and origin. If we rewind the
- 34:25Speaker 3: clock approximately thirteen point eight billion years to the immediate
- 34:28Speaker 3: aftermath of the Big Bang, the entire observable universe was
- 34:31Speaker 3: contained in a space smaller than a single atom. It
- 34:35Speaker 3: was unimaginably dense, unfathomably hot, and entirely governed by the
- 34:38Speaker 3: laws of quantum mechanics.
- 34:40Speaker 2: So the entire universe was essentially a giant quantum wave.
- 34:43Speaker 3: It was a chaotic soup of quantum fluctuations, particles and
- 34:48Speaker 3: antiparticles constantly popping into and out of existence, existing in
- 34:53Speaker 3: vast interconnected webs of superposition and entanglement. Energy densities weren't smooth.
- 34:59Speaker 3: They jittered and vibrated probabilistically.
- 35:02Speaker 2: And then cosmic inflation happened. The universe expanded at a
- 35:06Speaker 2: rate faster than the speed of light for a fraction
- 35:08Speaker 2: of a microsecond.
- 35:09Speaker 3: Yes, and when that sudden, violent expansion occurred, it took
- 35:13Speaker 3: those microscopic, probabilistic quantum jitters and instantly froze them. It
- 35:18Speaker 3: stretched them out across millions of light years of space.
- 35:21Speaker 2: Wait, so the unevenness of the early universe, the slight
- 35:24Speaker 2: variations in density that eventually allowed gravity to pull gas
- 35:27Speaker 2: together into stars and galaxies and clusters. Those macroscopic structures
- 35:31Speaker 2: are just stretched out quantum superpositions.
- 35:33Speaker 3: Exactly The only reason the universe isn't just a perfectly smooth, uniform,
- 35:38Speaker 3: boring mist of hydrogen gas is because of the quantum
- 35:41Speaker 3: weirdness that existed before inflation.
- 35:43Speaker 2: That is mind blowing.
- 35:44Speaker 3: The largest structures in the cosmos, superclusters of galaxies are
- 35:48Speaker 3: the macroscopic scars of quantum entanglement. By using this new
- 35:53Speaker 3: platform to precisely study how massive particles behave in entangled
- 35:58Speaker 3: superposed state, today cosmologists can build much more accurate mathematical
- 36:03Speaker 3: models of those primordial quantum fluctuations. We can literally simulate
- 36:08Speaker 3: the seeds of the universe in a tabletop vacuum chamber.
- 36:11Speaker 2: Which is mind bending. But there's also the most extreme
- 36:14Speaker 2: environment in the universe. Oh black holes. Oh yeah, there's
- 36:17Speaker 2: the black hole information paradox involving entanglement. Can we explore that?
- 36:21Speaker 2: Because a black hole seems like the ultimate battleground for
- 36:24Speaker 2: general relativity and quantum.
- 36:26Speaker 3: Mechanics, it is the absolute limit of our current physics.
- 36:29Speaker 3: The black hole information paradox is deeply tied to the
- 36:32Speaker 3: concept of entanglement. Quantum mechanics has a bedrock rule. Information
- 36:35Speaker 3: can never be fundamentally destroyed. Okay, if you know the
- 36:38Speaker 3: exact quantum state of a system. You can always theoretically
- 36:41Speaker 3: rewind the clock and know it's past or fast forward
- 36:44Speaker 3: and predict its future.
- 36:45Speaker 2: But general relativity says that a black hole has an
- 36:48Speaker 2: event horizon, a boundary of gravity is so intense that
- 36:52Speaker 2: not even light can escape. Anything that falls in is
- 36:55Speaker 2: trapped forever and eventually crushed into the singularity.
- 36:58Speaker 3: Right and Stephen Hawking proof that black holes aren't entirely black.
- 37:02Speaker 3: They slowly leak energy known as Hawking radiation, and eventually
- 37:06Speaker 3: evaporate away into nothing over trillions of years. This radiation
- 37:11Speaker 3: is borne from entangled pairs of particles popping into existence
- 37:14Speaker 3: right at the edge of the event horizon.
- 37:17Speaker 2: One particle of the entangled pair falls into the black hole,
- 37:20Speaker 2: and the other particle escapes into space.
- 37:22Speaker 3: Is radiation precisely. Now here's the paradox. We have an
- 37:26Speaker 3: entangled pair, their quantum states are linked. One falls in,
- 37:28Speaker 3: one escapes. Eventually, the black hole evaporates completely and disappears.
- 37:33Speaker 3: The particle that fell inside is gone.
- 37:34Speaker 2: Oh, I see the problem.
- 37:36Speaker 3: So what happens to the entanglement. What happens to the
- 37:38Speaker 3: quantum information that was shared between them? If the information
- 37:42Speaker 3: is destroyed. When the black hole vanishes, Quantum mechanics is
- 37:45Speaker 3: fundamentally broken. If the information somehow escapes, general relativity is broken.
- 37:50Speaker 2: And because we couldn't test quantum gravity, physicists have just
- 37:54Speaker 2: been arguing about the math for fifty years.
- 37:56Speaker 3: Yes, but the Annual Experiment provides a new conception and
- 38:00Speaker 3: experimental toolkit. By successfully entangling the momentum of massive particles,
- 38:05Speaker 3: we now have a physical analog that bridges mass and entanglement.
- 38:09Speaker 2: Wow.
- 38:10Speaker 3: While we can't build a black hole in the lab,
- 38:12Speaker 3: we can begin to design analog experiments. We can test
- 38:16Speaker 3: how the entanglement of massive particles degrades or reacts when
- 38:19Speaker 3: subjected to extreme accelerations or simulated gravitational horizons within the interferometer.
- 38:26Speaker 3: It gives us a physical mechanism to begin probing the
- 38:29Speaker 3: boundary conditions of the information paradox.
- 38:31Speaker 2: It is truly staggering how much ground we've covered. We
- 38:34Speaker 2: started this hour with a simple, almost absurd thought experiment.
- 38:38Speaker 2: We asked you to imagine yourself sitting in two rooms
- 38:40Speaker 2: at the exact same time, and over the course of
- 38:43Speaker 2: dissecting this incredibly profound March twenty twenty six paper, we've
- 38:47Speaker 2: seen how scientists took that absurdity and made it real.
- 38:50Speaker 3: We walked through the deep freeze, stripping the helium atoms
- 38:53Speaker 3: of their heat until their physical boundaries dissolved, turning them
- 38:56Speaker 3: into collective overlapping waves within a bose Einstein and say.
- 39:00Speaker 2: We explore the sheer elegance of the swave collision, allowing
- 39:04Speaker 2: those ways to pass through each other and birth pairs
- 39:07Speaker 2: of atoms inextricably linked by momentum entanglement their path through
- 39:12Speaker 2: the universe, bound together in a blur of probability.
- 39:15Speaker 3: And we marveled at the rarity tapster maze, using laser
- 39:18Speaker 3: brag pulses to split their reality, altering the phase of
- 39:22Speaker 3: their paths in real time. The joint probabilities derived from
- 39:25Speaker 3: the explosive tracer bullet impacts of the metastable helium definitively
- 39:30Speaker 3: proved that the particles didn't carry a hidden instruction manual.
- 39:33Speaker 2: They proved that the measurement of one atom physically instantaneously
- 39:37Speaker 2: forced reality to snap into focus for the other atom
- 39:40Speaker 2: across any distance faster than the speed of light. It's
- 39:44Speaker 2: a mechanism that paves the way for unbreakable quantum sensors.
- 39:47Speaker 2: Unravels the birth of galaxy clusters and might finally reconcile
- 39:51Speaker 2: the physics of the atom with the gravity of a
- 39:52Speaker 2: black hole.
- 39:53Speaker 3: What stands out most vividly is the fundamental re evaluation
- 39:56Speaker 3: of our environment. Entanglement has been demonstrated in photons and molecules,
- 40:02Speaker 3: even in the vibrational states of small synthetic diamonds, but
- 40:06Speaker 3: achieving this with free flying motional atoms matter with mass
- 40:10Speaker 3: navigating through space brings this quantum strangeness one giant leap
- 40:15Speaker 3: closer to the macroscopic world we inhabit.
- 40:17Speaker 2: It really does.
- 40:18Speaker 3: It proves that reality at its deepest foundational level is
- 40:21Speaker 3: entirely probabilistic and densely interconnected. The solid, predictable determinism of
- 40:27Speaker 3: our everyday lives is a macroscopic illusion born from the
- 40:30Speaker 3: sheer scale of the quantum chaos underneath, which brings me to.
- 40:34Speaker 2: The final thought I want to leave you with. We
- 40:36Speaker 2: now know, proven by undeniable data, that the fundamental building
- 40:39Speaker 2: blocks of matter can dissolve into interconnected waves of probability,
- 40:43Speaker 2: they can exist in multiple places at once, and they
- 40:45Speaker 2: can tie their destinies together instantaneously across space. But those
- 40:49Speaker 2: building blocks. Those massive physical atoms are the exact same
- 40:53Speaker 2: components that make up the chair you are sitting in.
- 40:55Speaker 2: They make up the structure of your car. They comprise
- 40:58Speaker 2: every single cell, bone, and neuron in your own body.
- 41:02Speaker 3: We are, in a very literal sense, entirely constructed of
- 41:05Speaker 3: quantum objects.
- 41:06Speaker 2: So the lingering unresolved question is this, at what exact size,
- 41:10Speaker 2: at what specific magical threshold of mass, does the universe
- 41:14Speaker 2: decide to stop being a probabilistic ghost and start being solid.
- 41:19Speaker 2: If the individual atoms in your hand are capable of
- 41:21Speaker 2: existing in two places at once and only choose a
- 41:24Speaker 2: definite state when forced by interaction, why is your hand
- 41:27Speaker 2: doing that? Where exactly is the line between the quantum
- 41:30Speaker 2: blur and the classical world. Think about that the next
- 41:32Speaker 2: time you reach out to grab your keys.