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THE HIDDEN TRAUMAS THAT SHAPED OUR GENERATION · Uncluttered and Unfiltered: The Podcast For Women Over 50

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  Welcome to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast urging
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  you to let it go and don't look back.
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  We've nationally acclaimed professional organizer Christine
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  Stone and self-proclaimed Hot Damn Mess radio and TV
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  personality Eden Kendall. Welcome everybody to Uncluttered
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  and Unfiltered with a podcast for women over 50 with me, Eden.
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  And Christine is here too. Christine is a professional
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  organizer and we'll share a random organizational tip at the
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  end of this episode. And I want to tell you right
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  now, this episode may have some trigger, trigger alerts, as they
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  say, but we're going to try not not to make it too deep, too
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  dark. I mean, I think you can't avoid
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  that you. Can't avoid it, so we're going
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  to talk. About trauma and how, because
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  today the release date of this episode is 911.
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  And so that was something that a lot of people who were adults
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  when that happened, like you and I were, it was very traumatic at
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  the time. And then there's a whole
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  generation and then some of people who it's just always been
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  something that had happened. And So what we want to really
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  talk about here or how we're so desensitized, but we're not.
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  In other words, we think that this is just something we've all
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  lived through, but we're not really giving ourselves the care
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  to say, you know, that was a traumatic event.
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  I mean, we weren't there on the scene.
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  Some of us were pretty close. Some of us may have lost people,
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  some of us may. But whether it's 911 and we'll
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  talk about some other newsworthy events that traumatized us all
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  and some that were just more specific to us.
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  But you almost don't give yourself, like if you were to
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  sit down with a therapist right now and talk about your life,
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  you wouldn't include that because we've all been through
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  it. We all did that.
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  But shouldn't you? Because it is something you went
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  through? I mean, you wouldn't think to
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  say it, but you did go through. It, well, you know what, why I
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  agree with you on this because every single year, somehow I
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  don't know if I'm a glutton for punishment or what, but I watch
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  one of the things that's running on National Geographic Channel
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  or wherever on one of the and without fail, I sob
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  uncontrollably. And I'm like, I think I have
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  some unresolved issues on this because it's like, it happened
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  yesterday. Yeah.
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  I mean, I get so emotional on 9/11.
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  I don't, I don't feel like celebrating anything on 9/11.
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  I don't feel like I just feel like it's still a day of
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  mourning for me personally. So yes, I agree with you.
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  I think people just stuff it away like we all do when
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  traumatic things happen and hope it never rears its ugly head.
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  But every 911 it rears its ugly head.
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  And I, I don't know about you, but the younger people who've
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  never lived through 911, you kind of get almost annoyed that
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  they're like blase about it, but it's not their fault.
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  Well, I mean, it's the same way when we heard about things like
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  Pearl Harbor and D-Day and, you know, or.
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  JFK, yeah. We weren't, we weren't grown-ups
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  that had to understand that this literally was happening in the
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  moment it was happening. So, and, and there have been so
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  many things throughout history like that.
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  I mean, tsunamis and earthquakes and the flooding and, you know,
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  recently and I mean, the stories are just horrible.
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  And, and we had, we've both put together some things that I
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  don't think we're giving. I don't want to say credit
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  because credit's not the great word.
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  Because on the one hand we talk about, oh, everything's not
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  traumatic. It's just a bad day.
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  And that is true for a lot of things, right?
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  But then you also have to respect what we've been through.
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  Well, like you were saying when we were talking earlier, it's
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  how did that change everything in your life?
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  I mean, how we go to airports now, it was never like that.
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  You never had to do all the airport things that you have to
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  do now. And that's kind of a big pain.
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  And while it's a big pain and it's inconvenient, when it first
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  started happening it felt so scary.
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  Now it feels like a pain in. The right, right.
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  But right, but at the time you weren't even thinking about it
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  feeling like a pain. I remember once I had to dump
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  some breast milk that I had would brought with me in a
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  bottle. Oh yeah.
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  I mean. Yep.
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  It's just, it was so scary. And also one thing about 911
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  that I don't think enough people when they may talk about it but
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  I just haven't heard about it is how close everyone felt to each
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  other. I remember going to the grocery
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  store like 3 days after 911, everyone looked the same.
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  It was like The Walking Dead. Just sad to you know, they look
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  like they've been crying. Everybody was so nice.
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  Everybody was so friendly and so nice.
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  Almost like a wink of the eye. Like I get ya.
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  I hear ya. I'm feeling it too.
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  It just everyone, there was no politics, you know, everybody
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  was just together and, and we all had a secret that we all
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  knew about together. And you don't get that anymore,
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  you know what I mean? It was a time that where
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  everybody was sad and struggling on how to cope with it, you know
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  what I mean? So I think it changed a lot.
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  Yeah. I think it changed a lot with
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  your innocence for your kids. Like I remember going, Oh my
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  God, what if they were like you started to what if everything
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  because your kids were young and you're like, Oh my gosh.
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  And that kind of brings us to some of these other life events
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  that are traumatic. And granted, they're more
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  traumatic geographically or physically if you knew somebody,
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  but there have been so many school shootings.
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  Obviously, I mean, I'm, I'm trying to pull this out.
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  This isn't pulling this out of the, the deep and dark here.
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  But you know, for, for me, Marjory Stoneman Douglas in
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  Parkland, FL was the, that high school wasn't built when I was a
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  kid. So all those kids went to my
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  high school. So that's a lot of my friends
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  have kids there or had kids there when that happened several
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  years ago because it was a high school and my age had the high
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  school kids. So it was that was a traumatic
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  thing for the country. There's always one in your
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  geographical area, I hate to say.
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  Well, it was in my daughter's school, yeah.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Well, that's one that happened locally here in where we are in
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  Jacksonville, FL. And my daughter was there.
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  And the student shot and killed. His principal.
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  His principal. Yeah, yeah, it was it was the
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  worst day of. I mean, I didn't think anything
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  could talk 911. I really didn't.
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  But you know, I never in a million years thought that would
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  happen at my own daughter's school.
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  Never. If you would have said that, I
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  would have said you're crazy, OK.
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  And to get a text from my daughter saying we're under our
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  desks, they've locked the doors, there's someone outside
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  shooting. And I said, first of all, I
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  thought she was I, I thought. She made a mistake.
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  There's some noises going on, but it's, and I said, if it's a
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  true story, I'm going to turn the TV on and it'll be on the
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  news, the local news. It was on the local news now I
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  had to. I'll never forget this.
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  I had a stove repair guy who'd already pulled the whole entire
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  stove out in the middle of the kitchen and I was so hysterical
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  that I had some random guy consoling me that I've never met
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  in my. Life.
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  Let me ask you when, when you turned on the news, had it been
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  resolved yet or was it still on? Go.
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  No, it was still on go. So in my mind I said I'm just
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  going to get my car and drive, even though I knew they wouldn't
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  let me near there in my mind. But I said I don't care if I
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  have to get out and walk the rest of the way.
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  It could be a 15 minute walk. I'm gonna do it.
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  And you know me, I don't like exercising.
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  I know. So he said you go.
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  I mean, he could have. Stolen.
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  This is the oven guy. Yeah, the oven guy.
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  I'll put it back and I'll fix it and put it back while you're
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  gone. So I jump in my car and I don't
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  even remember driving. That's why you should never
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  drive during traumatic events. And I realized that because you
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  don't even remember doing it. No.
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  Muscle memory got you there. Yeah, I just drove straight.
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  I mean, that's all I knew. Just drive straight.
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  And I was trying to get in touch with my husband, but he was in
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  court where his phone was off, so I got in touch with his
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  secretary. I was an absolute wreck.
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  And then they resolved it not. I mean, you know, it was very
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  sad. And then they let, they escorted
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  all the kids to the parking lot that drove.
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  And she was, she was in 10th grade, so she was, or 11th
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  grade. So she was a driver.
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  So she, I turned around, she said she was already in her car
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  on the way. And I can tell you, you don't.
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  I mean, thank God, thank God none of the students.
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  But that principal was one of the nicest people.
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  You'll believe. Beloved by everybody and and so
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  many people saved the kids that day that are heroes that you
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  know every one of these. I think now, now my daughter is
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  in private security and she was one of, I think five other women
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  doing a video on women insecurity.
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  And part of her video was how she was involved in a school
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  shooting. And she's never forgotten it and
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  how This is why she chose this career is to protect other
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  people. And so I think people don't
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  realize, you know, how these things affect you forever.
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  It's forever. Like, even talking about it, I
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  get choked up because all these kids now come to my house as
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  adults and they have just compartmentalized it.
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  They don't even really talk about it.
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  They don't think about it, they barely remember it.
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  And so I think that's what trauma does to you.
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  It just you can't put 1 foot in front of another if you don't
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  somehow put it in a compartment, you know what I mean?
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  Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
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  And and trauma, you know, nobody is nobody is giving points for
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  who's suffered at the hardest. So trauma is trauma.
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  So on the one hand, you could say, well, you know, she was
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  there, she was there, but that doesn't make it not traumatic
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  for a kid at another school now is worried that it's going to
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  happen there because they saw this on the news.
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  It's traumatic for. Everybody.
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  Millions of people who saw this story when it went worldwide, it
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  was a very big story. Well, and I also think like I
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  remember my daughter the next day when she was very upset,
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  like very upset. And she said if only I would
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  have sat with him at lunch because he always ate alone.
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  Oh, see you. Can't.
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  And I was like, you know what I mean?
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  Yeah, you can't that's you can't second guess that, but that's
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  just another piece of it. That's a piece of trauma.
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  And you know, if we had a, a psychologist or psychiatrist on
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  the show right now with us, we could get into that.
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  But that's not what we're trying to do.
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  We're not trying to solve it, cure it, name it.
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  We're just trying to explain to you that whether you not you, if
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  someone said to you, have you had any trauma in your life?
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  And your answer was no. We're here to say really,
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  really, because I think you have and you're just not even
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  recognizing it as what it really is.
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  I I so. Might not be first degree.
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  But it's. Traumatic COVID was traumatic.
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  It was a life changing, difficult situation.
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  Well, COVID is so traumatic that when I was telling my husband
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  what we were doing for this episode, I read my list and he
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  goes, what about COVID? I didn't even have that on my
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  list because it was so traumatic for me because we were living in
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  a rental that we had to be out of by May 1st.
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  And the girls came. Home and the girls came home.
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  So we're all living in a teeny tiny rental that we thought just
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  me and my husband would be living in for a renovation.
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  They had already ripped out the ceilings, ripped out the walls,
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  ripped out everything. So we're like, uh oh, I don't
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  think they're going to be able to put this back together.
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  And for all you knew is going to be a five year deal.
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  Right. Like, what if everybody goes
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  home and doesn't come back for, you know, whatever.
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  And so then the girls, like 2 adult daughters who you never
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  thought would live with you again are fighting like they're
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  12. I mean, the whole thing was just
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  so true. Oh, absolutely.
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  And I, I remember being here, we were recording this at the TV
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  station where I work. And I remember that first memo
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  saying that we were going to have some work from home time
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  and we're going to spread out more.
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  And I'm like, really, it's that big of a deal.
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  And I'm this is a news station. And I was just like, wait, oh,
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  wow. Like it really this is hitting
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  us. This is.
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  Happening. You know when I really got
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  worried? When my husband got worried.
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  My husband. Doesn't worry about anything
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  that's. My job, he's your person that I
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  have. I have people like that in my
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  life too, that he is. They're not worried.
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  About anything. Nothing.
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  Nothing worries him. Not one thing.
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  But when they get worried, boy. Even 911, he was like, it's
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  going to be OK, You know what I mean?
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  Like. They're your rock.
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  It's. Going to be OK.
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  Yeah. He he knew he had to be like my
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  rock for that because I was a wreck.
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  This. No, he was worried.
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  I mean, and I was like, uh oh. Like then I was really quadruply
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  worried. And then also my mom was older.
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  So then I worried that my mom was going to get COVID and she's
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  elderly. So I'm like, you know, that's
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  not good. And you know, I, I, but what I
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  did, I is what I always do, I go into the mode of just stay busy,
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  busy, busy, busy, busy, busy. So I still worked, I still had
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  to do stuff. How did?
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  You work because you and I, that's so interesting.
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  I know you and I did some things, but you, we did work
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  together. Because you would record them at
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  your house, Yes, and just send them to me.
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  We would put them on TV here. I was recording from my rental
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  house, yeah. So you still work well, What
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  about for your clients? Did you go to their house?
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  Well. You know what's funny?
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  The first five months, like from February 2020 to like June 2020,
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  no, everybody was freaked out. But then all of a sudden, yeah,
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  the seas parted. I don't know why.
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  And I didn't ask because I needed to stay busy.
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  Everybody wanted. And then I figured it out.
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  No one wanted to sit home with all their crap anymore because
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  they could go out. So they're like, I can't do this
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  even another day with my husband home.
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  All our crap in here. It was like double whammy.
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  So they were like, just come, I'm begging you.
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  So then I got the busiest I'd ever been in my whole life for
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  like a year and a half. I mean, just everybody could not
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  stand it. People were downsizing.
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  People were buying new houses. Just, you know, it was crazy.
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  Yeah, the market went. The market went crazy, so I kind
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  of had the PSTPS. TT.
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  Whatever it is, after I was back in my house, everything was put
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  together. All the workmen finally left,
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  which took forever. And I had like a mini meltdown.
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  I was like, I'd never let myself have that moment because I
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  thought if I have it now, I'm in big trouble.
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  And I just gave myself the grace to spend like a few days being
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  really, really glad it was coming to an end, almost like
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  things were turning. And you know, but I, I don't
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  know about you, I always like to give myself a little bit of
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  grace and then I pick myself back up and get on with life.
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  I call them wallower days. Like just gonna wallow and not
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  sad. Let me just be sad today.
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  Let me speak right. And so, OK, so we we've knocked
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  out a couple of life events. What are some of the other
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  things that you feel were like super traumatic that are just
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  maybe newsworthy events where we can all really think, you know
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  what, we were all in that together, we just didn't know
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  each other. I think the challenger.
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  Oh, I remember. Do you obviously remember where
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  you were? I was in class I.
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  Because you're younger than me, I was going to work and I'll
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  never forget. I even thought to myself, it is
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  freezing cold in Florida, which it never is, ever.
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  But it was so it was in the 40s in Florida, and I thought to
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  myself, how is that rocket going to take off when it's so cold?
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  Because they said it had been icing, you know, in the morning
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  that there were ice warnings, whatever, just in the whole
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  state of Florida. It was so cold and I was wearing
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  the cutest outfit. I will never.
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  You remember. What you were wearing?
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  Yes, because you can't wear boots in Florida because it's so
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  hot normally. So I had these knee high boots
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  on with this like cute skirt and a big sweater like heavy
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  sweater. Like it was 20° out.
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  And I, I, I literally got to work and heard about it and I
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  thought this is the most tragic thing.
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  I mean, I don't know about you, but it was just so sad.
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  Yeah. I mean, just the idea, yeah.
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  And, and I see on TikTok all the time you think you have trauma.
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  I was like in 3rd grade and they wheeled out the the projector to
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  watch the teacher go up in space and then it exploded and they
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  wheeled it back out and kept teaching.
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  I mean, that's kind of how it was.
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  Yeah, people just didn't. They didn't understand or what
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  to do with it. Yeah, just the thought of it.
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  I remember sitting in the classroom.
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  I was at University of Florida and a kid in the class had on a
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  radio. He he was, he had headphones on
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  in the class. I don't know why if we were
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  doing something where you why he would do that, but he announced
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  it like he interrupted the class and was like, I just want to
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  tell you guys that the. Challenge.
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  My God, that would be even. Yeah, and I was like, what?
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  First of all, why are you listening to the radio right
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  now? And also, Yikes.
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  Yeah, gosh, I also have Adam Walsh.
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  OK. I'm glad you brought that up
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  because I remember that very clearly.
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  That's really the first time. And that's John Walsh from
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  America's. Most wanted?
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  Yeah, Americans. Most wanted I remember there
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  would be, you know, you'd start seeing signs everywhere for
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  missing kids. That's where you really started
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  to realize this could happen to a child.
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  Because I was a child and I was like, what?
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  Right. And I remember seeing him on
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  like Good Morning America, talking before they knew he had
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  passed away, right? And begging for him to be
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  returned and people trying to find him.
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  What? Year would that have been?
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  Gosh, I was in college, I think. OK, so I was in that.
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  But I was from Florida, so, you know, I still went back and
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  forth, you know, because I was in college.
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  I might have been a freshman, I think in college.
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  Because I remember the news headline was The Head is Atoms.
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  And I, I mean, I still to this day remember that teaser coming
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  up, coming up tonight at The Head is Atoms.
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  And I think that moment of the whole Adam Walsh thing,
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  especially if you lived in Florida, but it was ever, I mean
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  it was everywhere, but they had like the code Adam at all the
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  stores. Now, yeah, but also I remember
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  because leading up to you would see all the signs.
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  Look, you know all the signs, right?
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  He was missing. And then so you felt like you
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  knew him. So then when you heard the news
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  after. Yeah, yeah.
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  That was very. Traumatic.
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  And also I think that was a lot of loss.
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  I wouldn't have mother at that time, but I know moms who were
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  like, they didn't even imagine they'd be going to the mall or
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  whatever. And something that tragic could
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  happen. And I think it really affected
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  America like the world that that you can't leave your kid for one
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  second, not even a half a second, because you never know
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  who's waiting, you know, to just snatch him.
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  And I think that that is a loss of innocence for a lot of
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  America. You know that, you know, that
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  you didn't have before the whole Adam Walsh thing.
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  Not to say it didn't happen, but this was just so public.
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  I mean, really so public. And so many things that happen
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  these days, we are desensitized too, because of the Internet,
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  because of the thing like, you know what?
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  You know what's happening in every community, not just.
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  Your own right? Exactly.
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  But for us, we were in South Florida.
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  I mean, I think living in Florida, you couldn't get away
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  from it and, and the guy that was accused of it was also like
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  a Florida serial killer. So you heard all about him all
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  the time. I don't know.
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  Yeah. Speaking of serial killers.
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  Ted Bundy. Yes, that was another traumatic,
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  traumatic thing for the FSU sorority killings that was
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  affected everybody. I think that life, you know, I
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  was in a sorority in college and everyone's like you have to have
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  your Bundy stick in the in the door.
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  You have to no propping the door or you got a fine, you know, to
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  come in the sorority house like things were different than they
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  used to keep the door propped open.
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  You no one really paid attention until after those sorority
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  killings. And I watched a Hulu documentary
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  over the weekend that just came out on the Ted Bundy tapes when
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  he but they relived the whole Ted Bundy thing with one of the
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  survivors from the sorority. And I mean, Oh my God.
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  I mean, when you're younger and you're busy in your own life and
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  you have young kids, you don't really pay attention to every
• 23:31
  little little detail. But when you're older, I'm like,
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  what, what is going on? I mean, you know, so I think
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  that was life altering and changing for people.
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  And he turned out to be the serial killer too.
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  So anyway, boy, this is a cheerful this.
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  Is a cheerful episode, isn't it? Do we have to do anymore?
• 23:54
  I think we can. Maybe I think we can wrap this
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  up. Yeah, let's just let's just call
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  it cuz. I mean, we could go on with
• 23:58
  these kinds of stories, but but the message is, is this, you
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  know, you we've all been through it.
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  You know, you can have the sunniest life.
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  Yeah, but you know, we've all, we've all, you know, seen,
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  experienced and had our lives changed by things that are
• 24:13
  removed from us at the very same time they get in your head and
• 24:16
  they play with you. So let's, let's, let's clean
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  that out. I do want to ask you kind of
• 24:20
  along those lines. And and this by the time this
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  airs, this is, you know, we we're recording this in August.
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  I'll be honest, but Dateline Live has been announced.
• 24:30
  There's going to be an A live event Dateline happening and
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  you're you've made the choice to be with your daughter as she's
• 24:37
  having a baby instead of doing what you really have wanted to
• 24:41
  do, which is a whole lot to. Do Keith Morrison OK?
• 24:44
  You have a chance to be in the same little room as Keith.
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  Morrison I mean, I really did, but I said no, my daughter is
• 24:51
  having my granddaughter, which nothing Trump's that.
• 24:55
  Even Keith Morrison from Dateline.
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  There'll be another choices were made.
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  Choices were made. All right, let's have that
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  random organizing tip. OK.
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  So since we're like going down kind of the memorabilia path, we
• 25:06
  are going to talk about yearbooks.
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  And this one's very, very fresh, not only for a client that I had
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  who put me on speaker with her son and said, what do I do with
• 25:17
  all your yearbooks? And he asked her if she could
• 25:19
  burn them. And I said, well, that's new.
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  I've never heard that one, but clients do that all the time.
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  They put their kids on speaker with me and I love listening to
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  them say I don't want your crap. I don't know, you know?
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  And then I was reorganizing a closet of mine upstairs and I
• 25:38
  stacked up all the yearbooks from both my kids and it was
• 25:43
  almost up to my waist because my one who was pre Internet had one
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  from early K all the way to 12th grade because that was, you
• 25:53
  know, And the other one, she's of the digital world.
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  So she had four, I think four or five.
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  But I told him that's it. Come get your yearbooks or
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  they're going in a dumpster. I mean, I can't tell you how
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  much I mean to imagine they went up to my waist.
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  That's how much room yearbooks take up.
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  Imagine how heavy that is to move.
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  You were moving homes. Not only that, that didn't
• 26:18
  include my yearbooks from when I was in lower school and I was in
• 26:22
  middle school and I was in high school.
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  So you really have to pick and choose, are you going to be the
• 26:28
  storage unit to all your kids stuff?
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  Because they claim they don't have the room even though a lot
• 26:35
  of over 50 people have downsized and they don't have the room.
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  And really, if they don't want them, why are you holding on to
• 26:43
  them? If they want them, they should
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  come get them. And I mean, I just have a
• 26:48
  feeling like even my own yearbooks, I've already said
• 26:51
  they're going in a dumpster the minute I'm gone.
• 26:53
  They're plank, plank. You'll hear it on the bottom of
• 26:56
  the metal of the dumpster. No one wants my yearbooks.
• 26:59
  I don't really want my yearbooks anymore either, if we're going
• 27:02
  to be quite honest with you. I I really contemplated
• 27:05
  yesterday of dumping them. But I think for us, people used
• 27:09
  to write in them and that's different than the yearbooks
• 27:14
  they get now where no one writes in them.
• 27:15
  At least four of them of my daughter's, nobody had written
• 27:18
  in them because it was now digital time.
• 27:21
  So honestly, look how many yearbooks you're saving.
• 27:25
  Your husband's yours, your kids. And if you've got more than two
• 27:30
  kids, you might as well have a yearbook closet.
• 27:33
  I mean, you know, a whole library.
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  So pick and choose, give away what is not yours and let your
• 27:41
  kids know it's time to come claim your own things.
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  Now, if they're in college, I get it because they still come
• 27:47
  home a lot and they aren't living in their own place.
• 27:50
  But if they're out on their own, they're married, they have their
• 27:54
  own house, their own apartment. Come get your yearbooks please,
• 27:58
  honey. OK, there you go.
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  So you know with a with a heavier than normal episode, we
• 28:05
  close with something bright and perky like dumping your
• 28:08
  yearbooks. So with all of those big heavy
• 28:12
  books full of people, you couldn't tell if they walked in
• 28:17
  the room who they were. Right, who you wouldn't be able
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  to. You can let that go.
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  And don't look back.