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This is he's the Whitfield Report with Sam Whitfield.
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Well McCarthy McCarthy getting elected, you know, back to
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speaker. The house.
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Really fucked up The Narrative of the show tonight because I
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honestly didn't think he was gonna get elected to You know,
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speak of that house, it seemed like he was down.
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I guess they made some more concessions, and so he's back in
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now. Anyway, hi, folks.
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Welcome to the show and death to conspirator Tardes as well.
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So we have shmuly who should be the rightful ruler of the of the
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house and the Senate hell shmuly should be Supreme dictator of
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the u.s. As far as I'm concerned, he is,
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he is the internet son of Max and after all, I would say
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disavow, it's found we don't we don't want death to anybody, all
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right? Don't want death.
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Anybody we just want them fired. Well with Benefits, you know,
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retired, retire for well mate. Well, maybe not death to
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conspirators, but but but Reba, you know, re-education always.
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So, I mean to, if we're just going to jump into that topic to
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be more specific if you're in sort of the internet.
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Sort of right-wing. Well, hell, I wouldn't even say
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right-wing anymore, but just the scene where you have all of
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these conspiracy theorists who are sort of fellow Travelers for
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whatever reason, right? So basically, you've broken away
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from the more mainstream sources, you've looked into
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things a bit deeper, you find these fellow Travelers who are
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talking similar things. However, you start to notice
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that they use some pretty shaky logic, right?
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They use some pretty shaky reasoning that use a lot of
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misinformation. These people are often referred
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to as you know, schizos. Yeah.
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Ever interact with these sort of like it doesn't necessarily mean
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they have to have necessarily schizophrenia but a lot of like
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schizoid personality goes into it, right?
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And these people are the most obnoxious.
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Human beings to to possibly speak to when you just don't
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disagree when you just don't agree.
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I yeah. I spent 45 minutes arguing with
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the with a, with a conspiracy person like earlier today, on
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telegram about somehow 9/11 being an inside job Which may or
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may not be, you know? II feel like the government
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does, a really shitty job of covering up conspiracies and
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this is my, this has always been my mind on my thing on 9/11.
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That if 9/11 was an inside job, do you really think that George
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Bush of all people would be able to keep a conspiracy?
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Well, I think, I think that a good way to phrase this is that
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they underestimate the serendipitous nature of all of
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the different conspiracies. He's running in unison, right?
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911 for George Bush and Dick Cheney in them.
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This kind of serendipitous it happened, it benefited them.
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They used it, right? Yeah.
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Now the CIA had helped Osama Bin Laden build emergent mujahideen
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to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan, right?
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Yeah, so For Al Qaeda out there plotting, right?
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It became kind of, you know, it was convenient to get that that
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8 to get that help. And so, what a lot of the
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conspiracy theorist type of people fail to appreciate, is
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just how complex the world really is and how many of the
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different conspiracies running at unison.
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Create the predicament that we find ourselves in, right?
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Yeah, if you look at like the Twitter files, like what you see
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is it it's a clusterfuck, right? It's this person knows this
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person who works at the White House, and there's an official
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thing. And so, the CIA and the FBI is
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going to tell them to watch out for the story because it
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benefits this guy. And then sometimes Adam shift
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asked him to do something and he gets, you know, cricket chirps
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then it's the kind of stuff you expect and that's how the world
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works. It doesn't work in this like
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pyramid-shaped org chart the yeah.
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Yeah, the thing with the Twitter files because people have asked
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me to go over them on the show and what do I do?
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There's, there's too much. There's no way to cohesively
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organized because the ironic thing on Twitter about the
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Twitter files. Is there disseminating the
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Twitter files on Twitter? Right.
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But the thing of it is, they're all very kind of disjointed.
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If you look at them because there are too many things to
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connect to connect, if they would just release the Twitter
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files as like one continuous thing that would make sense.
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But now they've got to do the whole thing of You know, well,
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tune into Matt TVs account for this thing and oh, go look at
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Bear bar, right? At borrow, why is this account
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for this thing? And what we're up against,
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right? Is an oligarchy.
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And so, what do you see an oligarchy, a clusterfuck of a
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bunch of people vying for power? They all want to protect the
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power that they have, and they'll run like a, like a herd
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towards a narrative or down a path, until something Spooks
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them and they change direction. But look, that's what you see.
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When you see an oligarchy is ruling over you.
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You don't see this like dear Leader's, usually paying tells
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them do this and that and this and that.
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And then they, you know, sieg heil and go off and do it or
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something, right? Like that's not that's not how
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the world works and that's how the world works when you listen
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to these conspiracy theorist types.
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Right? Well well well when I was The
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Conspiracy Theory types, they think that Bill Gates, they
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think that the they think that the rule that the entire world
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is run by billionaire. Pedophiles basically And if you
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ask them who these building are pedophiles, are they don't
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really give a concrete answer of like, you know, of who they are.
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They always say, oh, it's Bill, it's Bill Gates, it's, you know,
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it's Mark, you know? It's Mark Zuckerberg.
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It's all these people. You ask for the receipts and
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then they just say stuff, like, well, they're rich, so obviously
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they're their pet. Fuck pedophiles.
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They get well yeah well because logic follows right?
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Like if you follow and work your way backwards from that point of
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view that all the world is run by billionaire pedophiles,
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right? And you logic it backwards, well
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then anyone who has power and money must be 1.
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Because they control everything right except except for Trump,
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though, which is out. What I've seen.
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A lot of them say he is no. I know, I know I had well, yeah,
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I mean I've, I've seen some of them see though, that's kind of
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Disconnect. Because I've seen a lot of
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people be like, yeah, the world. And then I'm like, what about
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Trump? And to be clear, I don't believe
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that Trump is a billing, a pedophile.
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While, but they'll say the, the entirety of billionaires are
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pedophiles, right? And then you say hmm and then
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you say, oh well then in that case, what a trauma and they'll
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be like, oh, everyone except for him.
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But once again, they're extrapolating out from like one
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data point and then working the logic backwards.
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Whereas, if you look at the evidence then yeah, you can draw
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the conclusion that there. In fact are killing are
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pedophiles, and they, in fact, have a lot of power.
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They have a lot of Influence. But that doesn't mean that the
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entire world is controlled by the right.
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And you definitely means that you shouldn't make inference
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backwards 3 layer 3 3 x, right? So billionaire, pedophiles
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control, the world is starting point, therefore anyone with
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money and status is one right there for like, whatever random
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Authority. I find is just serving the
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interests of the billionaire pedophiles, right?
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Yeah. You see?
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See that you see you see how once you extrapolate out from
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this one data point, it becomes an all-encompassing like
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schizoid worldview and that's really, I think the Crux of the
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problem with a lot of be conspiracy, theorists that one
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will find online is that they have some form of that, right?
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And all they're going to do is seek out confirmation bias.
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If you say that you disagree with them, they will demand a
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level of evidence. That is unreasonable.
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And when you provide them with this evidence, they will not
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change how they act. I've seen this play out with the
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Bill Gates in particular. That's a good example, the
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vaccine sterilization thing. When I read the sources that
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they link me, it doesn't say that when they show me the out
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of context, Bill Gates clip and I post the entire video, it
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doesn't change their mind. And right.
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And if it does change her mind on the specific, they're going
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to circle back and find a new Trail and work backwards from
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the conclusion that they already have.
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Here's, here's my quick. Here's my question because
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because I mean I've been on the internet you and I both have
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been on me for a while. Time or iced I have and I'm kind
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of assuming that you have been to, but why do you think that
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the right wing is? I mean I'm not the wife has its
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conspirator parts to but it seems that the conspirators are
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a lot more on the right than on the left but a I think that's
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just objectively not true. I think what we've seen is a
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polarization of sort of our schizos, right?
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The left death. We has they're paranoid skids
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schizo beliefs. Oh yeah.
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Right and so does the right wing.
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This is this is a this is an issue with the way people think
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is not necessarily a partisan issue.
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A lot of the crossover between the two.
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I think it's fascinating. Yeah, well let me let me
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rephrase, I guess the right wing schizos.
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Get like a fight, a lot more than the than the left turret
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Wing schizos. Know you just encounter them
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more on the networks that you're on.
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Yeah, that's that's that's fair. Go on Twitter and you can like
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like go in Twitter. Go to the reply guys to like
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when Donald Trump was tweeting. Right?
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You will see Paranoid schizos on both sides.
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Well, yeah, I mean, no doubt about that.
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I mean, they're I mean, they're, they're, they're people even
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today on the left who think that Donald Trump wants to like,
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wants to literally have a holocaust of like all
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transgender people, right? That's, that's a, that's a
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schizo purse. So, let me let me put this out,
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right? Like a lot of the people, sort
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of, in the elite, Sort of class, right?
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The manager Elite Class. You know, the New York Times
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readers, let's say right, let's just be pretty broad.
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They would look at sort of The internet spaces and say this is
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terrible. This information is going to run
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rampant, man. People are going to read these
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conspiracies, they're going to become radicalized.
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Now the funny thing is that when we objectively look at the ideas
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that they adopt, the ideas that they follow, they too are prone
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to this sort of paranoid schizo nonsense.
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It's just different conspiracies.
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Usually some form of the peasants are going to come, get
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them with pitchforks, you know, something like that.
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You know what I mean? Well, II read a, I was for some
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reason, I was in the young, I went to YouTube yesterday and I
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don't know how I stumbled upon this, but I stumbled Upon A, A
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Young Turks like video where it was, it was Alec, it was Alex
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Jones. Versus Nick Fuentes on because I
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guess I guess Nick Fuentes debated, Alex Jones at like
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Hitler and whether or not Hitler was like I've seen a guy or
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something like that. I've seen that.
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It was wonderful. Yeah.
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But like so I saw the you I saw the YouTube comments.
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So the video was the video was The Young Turks talking about
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it, right? and, The video itself isn't
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important. So this conversation.
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What is important though? Is in the comments section,
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someone start talking about DeSantis and the left is at
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waste Young Turks viewers, I don't know about the entire DNC,
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but The Young Turks, those idiots.
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They seem to think that DeSantis is more dangerous because in
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their minds, he is quote, unquote smarter than Trump is.
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And quote, well, so therefore that makes them more dangerous.
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Which, in a way kind of makes me like this.
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And just, I mean, I already like this and this, but it makes me
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like him a lot more because he's literally living rent-free and
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like the left-wing conspiracy Tardes heads, even though, Is
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backed by more establishment figures.
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The problem with him is that he's obviously a lizard person
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and he's part of the lizard people with okay.
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Yeah. Well, you know, we have geckos
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here in Florida, you know that, you know, but I mean really are
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the lizard people that bad. I mean, they're a lot better
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than the Cockroach people, they keep them away.
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So yeah, yeah, that's that's true.
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We actually, we need more of those are people actually
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because the Cockroach people are, you know, it's it's a big
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problems. Especially in the summer, one
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point. Yeah, just run my joke into the
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ground. It wasn't even that good to
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begin with. My kidding, you're not running
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anywhere so well. Yeah, there we go.
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That No, see that? That's that's that's a good one.
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Yeah, I'm not I'm not running it at best.
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I might be hobbling a joke and say into the ground but yeah.
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Do we have any people to chat? We have, let's see.
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Whiskey, whiskey wants to. Let's see.
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Which he says we're white because we lack to prop again.
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I said sort of but not really we have fat cake.
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Boy that says please subscribe to the field report on Rumble
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which I appreciate that. Okay, we're not streaming on
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Rumble but we are on there. We have we have agent dipshit
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that says damn lizards. What was that?
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Man. That part of the show where you
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give you give free things away. Yeah.
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Well we're I know we're giving away Balu chew tonight.
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For sure that that's that's one of the things we're giving.
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We're getting way. If you go to Blue to.com slash
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for three months. So Austin, not says, working in
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chat. Whiskey says, where's Apex?
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I'm sending him. The link. so, but Boy, this,
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like I, like I said, I actually had a narrative ran out because
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I thought that McCarthy was going to get btfo died.
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I didn't think he was going to get reelected as speaker and so
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this completely derailed my original.
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Maybe I should have gone into TV writing instead because Justice
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ones. Reality kind of fucked up my
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script because I was sure he was going to get elected speaker.
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And then they made some sort of compromise.
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I guess. I'm not sure what but I'm, I
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guess we're going to find out later on.
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Why didn't you listen to your old pal?
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Shmuly I, I should have. Yeah, so Mark dance, Decatur's
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of prognostication. You were, you were right and you
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were right and I you know, I was like, well, he's going down in
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flames it now P pulled it out of his ass at the last What?
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About course? I was, right.
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I'm smarter than everyone else and better educated than
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everyone else better red than everybody else.
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Okay, okay, to okay next. Okay, next one does.
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Well, I handle it. Well, you know, you know, you
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are from Florida. So that was a plus and you
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don't, you don't come with a flashlight or something.
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Well, unlike him like I'm humble, No, no.
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You are. But but, you know, come to think
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of it any almost. Anyone is compared to that
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faggot? Well, I'm not come hunting.
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You know what I mean? I'm not shining black lights
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over stuff. Looking for it, right?
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I don't I don't invite members of the same gender into my house
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and then like, slowly, like have weird parasocial relationships
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with them. You know, he's a, he's a scumbag
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and a fad and he's never worked hard for anything in his life,
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his mom, he's paid for everything.
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He's a College Dropout and he went down a very bad path and
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he's really just a detestable human being and the fact that
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that anyone still follows him and the fact that he's not in
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prison Is an indictment of our society, or government removal.
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Well, that's that's where a lot of these conspiracy Tardes come
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though, too. Is not not just America First,
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just this whole like online, you know, shit show.
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Then I should honestly, like, just make up.
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I've actually been him to do this.
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I I should you and I should write like the most crazy, you
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know, conspiracy theory that you and I can think of we should put
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it out there and then we just watch as the as the conspiracy
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Tardes, I've done it in chat and in chat, we were we what was it?
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I forget. I think it's Like 79 or
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something and we just spammed this one chat.
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That was talking spear, see with it and like people ask what it
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is. Like it's the answer and stuff.
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But you come back like three weeks later and then there's
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somebody posting about it. And they're still, right?
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Like, 79 is become a meme in these people's heads.
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It's actually not that hard to do that, right?
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That that's, that's all I got. That is hilarious.
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And I mean, once again, In like these people have like no formal
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training in logic. They don't understand how the
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world Works. They've never like really
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involved themselves on a large scale with an understanding of
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like economics or organizational structure or anything like that.
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So it's like very easy for them to work backwards.
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Logically and not come to any Court of them.
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Anything that would lead them to believe.
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Hey, maybe I'm wrong. Or, hey, maybe this isn't
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working the way that I suppose, and it's just I think it's just
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a difference in. Like, cognitive division of
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labor, right? Well, the the other thing too is
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Is, I've noticed thinking and thinking like being so high in
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systemization that you are interested in muffin things that
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you actually want to like understand the broader view of
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how things work I like. Is I don't want to say that.
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That makes you like Weird. Or maybe like, Deranged in the
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head or whatever. But like I do kind of think that
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that's the case. Like I do think that that is a
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deviation from the norm and that like in most cases that's kind
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of maladapted. Thank you.
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You have to have that level of like thinking on a scale that's
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not human. I, ya know, I have that.
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Well, I have that too. But the other thing too is The
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reason why I'm no conspiracy, it hard.
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And why I think you aren't either is even though I'm
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Muslim. Well, even though, I'm on
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Twitter a lot, I don't live my life.
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Chronically online. I can I can, I can step away
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from this shit and like, take a step back and like take a break
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and then I can go back and examine well does this really
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make sense because a lot of this conspiracy stuff Gnu.
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Like what when you look at it, it doesn't make a whole lot of
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sense because take a step back at, like, the whole, can you
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give me a sample? Well, an example would be the
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whole right? When when when the whole covid
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things started like one of the conspiracy theories out there
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was it's not a back. Cenation at all.
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It's you know, everyone's just getting in my courtship to write
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everything. I remember that was a whole that
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was like a whole big conspiracy thing that everyone's getting
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microchip. Well, okay.
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Well, that I asked, well, the now who's, who's making the
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microchips? Like, you know, what evidence do
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you have of You know of their being microchips and they were
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like, oh well you know, Samsung and I'm like, Samsung is making
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microchips now and they were like, well, they're making
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Michael trips for their phones and it's like well yeah no shit.
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They're doing they're just putting cell phone processors
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and do you. Yeah yeah sure Mom.
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Yeah, which I mean so you know you ask them some questions and
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it's like they can't give you a straight answer.
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It's like it goes from like, say like that.
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That's that's the most obvious was that like they were put,
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they were putting like cell, you know, they were putting like 5G
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chips into In to us, right? So that was that was one of
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them. Well, popularized, The Narrative
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form, the world economic Forum as think the primary evil,
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right? Because covid happens.
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And this is once again, understanding how structures
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work like covid happens. All of these governments.
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All of these politicians, get an email.
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So World economic Forum. It is their policy, white paper.
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Build back better. Yeah.
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They all start working from white paper.
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Well this is a bit Discerning ever.
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All of these institutions across the planet following the same
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plan, right? Obviously, this is a conspiracy
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and it's this plane is going to be taken to its logical
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conclusion, Global why, right? So the logic this was what these
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people are saying. The fact of the matter is is
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that when it became politically inconvenient for these different
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places to deviate or create their own And they did.
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So, Right. Hmm, the world economic Forum
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does not control the world. Completely does not have
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lockstep. Not every politician is
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completely and utterly loyal and self-sacrificial to their plans.
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They have quite a few, right? A lot of people, in the
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conspiracy Yang are still into it, because you can't falsify
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it. Because well, what if they
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really wanted these politicians to deviate Or they'll just do it
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at a later time, or wait, for blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
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blah. Thing that they can come up
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with, with no evidence. That's just conjecture to cope
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with the fact that they don't understand how things work.
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They're not coming up with reasonable explanations for
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what's going on because they're less intelligent and less
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educated than me. Well we do have.
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We actually we do have a donate, we actually do have a donation
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by screaming loud. I have no idea why they're not
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playing tonight because I'll I know why, because dream Labs is
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fucking gay, but we do have a donation from That cake boy and
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if I can pull up I will read it. I did see a boy though.
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You're calm and share that he says ROTC is right at this
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point. Fuck voting Federal elections,
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just focus on woke on local in your state only.
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I mean, I have said for a long time, I'm even before I knew of
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Revenge of the cyst that yeah definitely voting and state
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elections you know in your own collections that is where you
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can affect real change. I wouldn't say fuck, you know, I
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went say Fuck voting federally because believe me the federal
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government may still do have power for sure but you know so
30:20
to save your living room, If you live in a place where you know,
30:24
mail-in ballots are sent out unsolicited, you know what I
30:28
mean? Just yeah.
30:29
Just do you know what you feel is, right?
30:35
But yeah, like just just know how the system works, you know
30:41
what I mean? Like You know, it'd be a damn
30:45
shame, you know. So, yeah, well, I mean the
30:49
problem, the problem that we have federally though is, you
30:54
know, this in this is a big problem with politics because
30:59
just in general, but especially at the FED at the at the federal
31:03
level, right? Because now we have like it's
31:06
not even it's not even like 2024 if we have we have Trump running
31:11
but now we always have now, we have You know what I'm hearing
31:19
is that from a very reputable source and in California.
31:25
Is there thinking you that Gavin Newsom is going to run for the
31:31
presidency in 24, it's an awful idea on their part.
31:37
It's the so they should do it. That is what your is.
31:40
What you're saying? No no.
31:43
What I'm saying is for like well See, I don't think that he is a
31:51
good candidate to put up. I think that the Democrats could
31:54
do a lot better, but I don't think they will because I think
31:57
that the people who they put up to have actually win the
32:02
primaries but the super delegate system that they have are people
32:08
who worked inside of the Obama White House.
32:12
Yeah. For sure.
32:13
And I don't think that we've run out of those people.
32:17
And so the idea that Newsom is Going to become think.
32:21
I don't think it's going to happen.
32:23
I don't think that he's particularly that charismatic,
32:26
and I don't think that he's going to have a good thing to
32:30
run. I don't think Gavin Newsom is
32:32
the best I can do. I don't, I don't think he's
32:34
care. I don't think he's charismatic
32:37
either, but I, here's the thing. If Trump runs if Trump gets like
32:45
the, this is my only concern with I'm Trump, right?
32:51
I'm not against Trump running in 24.
32:53
What I am concerned about is normies are is a lot of normies
32:57
are so stupid. Now that they'll be like oh
33:01
Travis Mean Tweets We'll take anyone but Trump and then we'll
33:08
get new new summer or someone. We literally saw that with, with
33:13
Joe, Biden and 24 and granted. There may or may not have an
33:17
election fraud. Again, I can't say for sure
33:20
there was because, yeah, but more people voted like, like
33:24
more people voted for him than have voted for any Republican
33:27
Air Canada ever. Yeah, that's, that's true.
33:32
Again, not saying, Susan, wojcicki that the along and so
33:37
was stolen. But and so why?
33:42
Why would they not run? Oprah.
33:50
But Benjamin been Shapiro's prediction is that they will
33:53
eventually run Oprah running Oprah.
33:57
I don't think they will. Because once again, I think that
33:59
they're correct. I think that they are in inside
34:02
Club so to speak and I think they're very good at keeping
34:07
Outsiders out, but if they were trying to be politically
34:09
expedient, Oprah is a much much better.
34:15
Pick. Because What are you going to
34:20
do? Are you going to be mean to
34:21
Oprah in the debate? Are you going to be nasty to
34:26
Oprah? She starts off as being likeable
34:29
by a large portion of people. Yeah.
34:33
But the women though, is Oprah even like politically my
34:41
question is for anyone who would who would theoretically vote for
34:45
Oprah is is Oprah even Like, political really because and I
34:54
like, I've heard Trump pot talk politics.
34:57
I know that Oprah is a liberal, but she never only seems to dive
35:01
deep into politics anyway, and so perfect.
35:05
And so, for her to become political that would really hurt
35:08
her brand. Also, I did find that can play
35:11
Super Chat time to accept the truth that Ron Sanders. 20:24 is
35:17
going to happen. You and I know it.
35:21
So no point in denying it. Um, I know.
35:26
Well, I know that people wanted to send this to run and 24, but
35:32
I personally think he should stay the fuck here as out as a
35:37
governor. And I'm not even a man, I'm not
35:39
even a native Floridian looky. It makes me sad.
35:43
It breaks my heart, the thought process that he would do that to
35:48
himself, okay? Yeah.
35:51
Running against him, splits his own base, it makes people
35:55
uncomfortable Boy causes a problem, it causes a rift and he
35:59
has to separate his brand from Donald Trump's burnt.
36:04
Now that like, how is he going to do that?
36:07
How is he going to differentiate himself from him?
36:10
He's going to what he's going to say that he was too mean to the
36:12
media. His shtick is being mean to the
36:15
media. To is he going to say that his
36:18
policies are bad, his policies are based on his All he's going
36:23
to be able to do is go while I can hire better people or
36:26
something and that's going to tune into a lot of like really
36:34
political conservative types, people who really consumed like
36:38
content and know about Trump's cabinet picks.
36:42
Most people are not like that it would be much better for him
36:45
politically to wait this election out.
36:50
Then Donald Trump's not going to be able to run.
36:52
Again you can say, Donnie tried hard last time he didn't win or
36:57
Donnie one and he did a great job.
37:00
I'm going to carry on the torch. I'm The Logical pick.
37:04
The man is like, I forget how old he is.
37:07
Like, what 52? I mean, he's not he's a child in
37:11
politics almost, you know. Yeah, not even not even that.
37:14
I think he, let me actually Google house.
37:19
He I because I think he might be in his 40s if I'm not.
37:24
And I see in him. I mean, goes to Harvard Law
37:27
School, right gets into the Navy, does does lawyer stuff for
37:33
the Navy, right? Jack's out gets involved in the
37:37
politic. We're looking at a man who
37:40
seemingly built his life as a young age.
37:43
Oh shit with you and I you and I are both off shmoo, he's only 44
37:48
years old. Yeah, so he's 44 years old.
37:51
He's dedicated his life to building up his resume so that
37:54
he can become president. I really hope that he's
37:59
Machiavelli and enough. To pick the best possible thing.
38:04
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe he's got a great plan and he's going to
38:07
get up there and he's gonna, he's gonna really be able to
38:10
separate his message from that of trump.
38:12
He's really going to be able to convince everybody to go for it.
38:16
Not so sure. Yeah, I I just for me it's not
38:22
it's not even that and maybe maybe you can answer this better
38:27
than I can since you're a Florida native.
38:29
But like my whole thing is if the same I'm just does, like,
38:34
Run for the presidency in. Let's see winds.
38:38
Who here? Is his successor as Governor
38:43
then because I don't, I'm not as familiar with for politics or
38:48
perhaps you are, but it would be the lieutenant governor.
38:51
I forget her name. Yeah, that's, that's my point
38:55
now. No one really?
38:57
No. Well, I mean, I don't from what
39:00
I've heard, she's not like as on top of things as he is, I guess,
39:06
but I don't know. Matt gaetz is a not lieutenant
39:11
governor, he's a he's a congressman.
39:15
I know the lieutenant Governor's, like, oh, they said,
39:19
what are the alternative? Matt gaetz.
39:24
Oh, Matt gaetz is well, if you can clarify front back, kick
39:31
boy. Like let's see.
39:34
Are you talking about 2024? Or you talking about the
39:38
election after coming 24? It was my Matt gaetz could run
39:44
after 2000. Before I he's not going to run
39:47
against the Santa's and Donald Trump.
39:49
I think that would be ridiculous.
39:51
Yeah, that back Matt gaetz is not going to make I would.
39:56
Yeah that would even be more off-brand than DeSantis, right?
40:02
Yeah, I mean, Ted Pete, someone on Facebook mentioned, Ted Cruz
40:12
that only, yeah, that's that's not gonna happen.
40:15
Happen. He's, he will run.
40:18
Oh, you think Cruz will run? Yeah, 100%.
40:21
I think it will. But he's run like a bazillion
40:25
times. Yeah, he's running bazillion
40:28
times and like they that he almost won.
40:31
But Donald Trump trump, everybody defeated everybody.
40:35
But I remember having these debates with people who were
40:41
during the primary 2016, they were enthusiastically Pro him
40:50
and and they act as if he was some sort of like moral
40:55
character that they knew his morality was Superior to that of
40:59
others, right? Which I always find a strange
41:04
thing. I don't know.
41:07
What people do in their family or their private lives by my
41:13
hope, my whole experience with the Ted Cruz people.
41:16
I've been going back like 2012, like back when I was in high
41:21
school and was doing this whole political thing was they were
41:25
like they were saying, Ted Cruz was anointed by Jesus.
41:34
To become president, right? And it's like, well, well how
41:41
how do you how do you know, how do you know that?
41:44
Like, first up, first off to be to be in some War.
41:52
Basically, you saw Jesus like whole, like, holy crap, like,
41:57
can we just talk about that for a sec, like, forget the fact
42:01
that Ted Cruz? You know, got annoyed by Jesus,
42:06
like you saw Jesus Annoying. It's what its logic like that
42:12
where like, where where you start to lose people though.
42:16
And that's like, I'm not saying like, I'm not again, you know,
42:22
the election might may or may not have been stolen, but you
42:27
also get like, you're also getting conspirator or not even
42:30
considered hard, but but like religion, Tardes who like out
42:36
Romper DeSantis or, you know, name your pic was annoying to by
42:40
Jesus and that always drives people to the other side.
42:44
Right? Well, I mean, it's just, it's
42:47
just not where it's at, man. It's it's just absolute cringe
42:53
and like I said pretending like you know that a presidential
43:00
candidate is like a moral good person to the point where like
43:06
you're going to Proclaim it like that just strikes me as like,
43:11
Cringe like, no, you don't. You don't know.
43:15
You don't know if he beats his wife, you don't know if he, you
43:18
don't know me, you don't know? No, there's the and I can tell
43:24
that just from because I have a friend who I have a, I have a
43:31
friend who works in DC as like a as a congressional staffer and
43:37
the thing that DC that a lot of people fail to mention is that
43:43
yeah, like the Republicans and Democrats they are like
43:48
ideologically opposed to each other as far as like politics
43:52
go. Right.
43:53
But it's also like pro wrestling we're like they'll fight each
43:57
other. You know, on like how to whole
44:01
whatever. But then like outside you'll see
44:05
them, they they all got to dinner with each other, right?
44:09
Like they all go to each other's, you know, houses on the
44:13
weekends for barbecue, maybe not all of them, but like the point
44:17
being is they don't all hate each other, right?
44:21
Or as much as so. Yeah, to your point, you don't
44:24
know what what's going on. Yeah, yeah.
44:29
Just it just struck me as Queen. Jamie.
44:31
The other thing was like at the time, it was like, oh well,
44:33
Donald Trump supporters like socialist medicine or something,
44:37
and this was some great slight, right?
44:40
Like, this is a miracle, we don't do that here.
44:43
Just just just like dumb Boomer reactionary like Conservatism
44:50
they like totally lacks any real like moral depth, right?
44:54
No, depth of thought. It's like, no, actually, I
44:57
valued restricting illegal immigration more than I value.
45:02
The Socialist medicine, right? The the possible threat that
45:07
some. Yeah.
45:07
Because in the 80s, he said, maybe we should have a Single
45:10
Payer in an interview, right? And because you were maybe or
45:15
something like that. It's just like what the fuck.
45:21
There's no actual analysis of anything going on at you're just
45:24
repeating like, yeah. Worst tropes from talk radio.
45:28
I mean, and and yeah, just you're going to, you're going to
45:30
eat up with Sean Hannity says really what great intellectual
45:35
is right and Sean Hannity apologized for wanting us to get
45:39
into a war with turkey over a bunch of Communists Kurds.
45:44
Well, Wilbur, remember, when they wanted to put our soldiers
45:47
in between two fucking clashing armies so that we could save
45:51
those poor ypg, terrorists Kurds.
45:56
We need to put our Man In Harm's Way because there was going to
45:59
be a genocide of Kurds. Remember that?
46:02
Yeah. Yeah, I actually do listen, I
46:05
remember, I remember show what happened with that.
46:12
I miss nothing, nothing Donald Trump, pulled the troops away,
46:16
and then Syria the Kurds and the Turks made a deal, they made a
46:22
deal. So so where was the apology?
46:26
Where was the apology from these talk radio, conservative types
46:30
for wanting to get us into an unnecessary war with a NATO
46:34
country? Presumably or have our troops be
46:37
cannon fodder in between the to put our bodies are young men's
46:41
bodies in the way to event to prevent a genocide that the
46:46
never occurred. There was no analysis of like,
46:48
oh, I was sorry. How can I be wrong?
46:51
There was no like deep thought. No one held these people
46:54
accountable. So, you know, when you look at
46:57
these type of people, right? And you see how what they say,
47:01
let's look at their actions. Let's look at the actions of a
47:04
lot of these like conservative people Yeah, no.
47:12
I'm old enough to remember when Sean Hannity was like saying
47:18
that Trump wasn't going to be the candidate, right?
47:21
And then now, I mean to be to be fair, the light Rush Limbaugh
47:27
was the only one who he didn't endorse Trump right away, but I
47:33
will give him credit where credit was due.
47:35
He he gave Trump a fair shot from the from the beginning.
47:39
And I can't speak ill. I can't say a bad thing about
47:43
that, man. I won't.
47:45
I refuse I will. It's a free pass.
47:49
Yeah, well he well, he's the as I've said before, he's the
47:52
reason why this show exists. So yeah, I but, you know, but
47:59
even looking back, I don't like, I tried to go back and see what
48:02
woes Rush ever rush and Ann Coulter.
48:06
From the beginning were like, you know, a trump has Shot.
48:10
Now it's interesting because like Sean Hannity was, Sean
48:15
Hannity went from the anti-trump to just sucking from dick well,
48:21
because he's going to, he's going to go with you every way
48:23
the wind blows and he's going to spread his propagate and done.
48:25
He's going to do a stick. Yeah, his shtick is to repeat
48:30
what he thinks is just the index card allowable opinion on the
48:34
among conservatives. It's all he's ever done.
48:37
He sticks to the talking point. I mean, if you ever tried to
48:40
list do is show its horrendous is the Talking Point again, and
48:45
again, day after day, after day. Well, he's one of those people
48:50
where he, he actually used to be good, believe it or not, like
48:56
like when I started when I started listening to talk radio,
48:59
like, when I was a teenager, he was still, he wasn't rushed.
49:03
No one is, but he was still pretty good and then he, but
49:06
then he just got like more and more milk toes.
49:10
Hannity did like, well, who do you think very good right now
49:16
on, what a great? Well, well honestly, like, I
49:20
think, I think podcasts are the, the podcast for the big thing
49:26
like and honestly, I know he's not, like, really a political
49:29
guy, but like, I do like the fact that Joe Rogan will like,
49:35
He's not right wing but like I like the fact that a lot of both
49:40
people that have both sides on and yeah he might be a bit of
49:43
offensive like he's the only one who could convince me to listen
49:48
to a Bernie Sanders. Even I think Bernie is still
49:54
full of shit even after he went under the Joe Rogan podcast.
49:58
Well that long that long form form at the 101 format is
50:05
fantastic and I think podcasting is definitely Innovative in that
50:09
way. Yeah so I do agree with you but
50:16
like I said my question was more in the talk radio scene.
50:23
I would, I would say that like because I believe firm belief is
50:30
In that scene, Michael Savage and Alex Jones, and I don't
50:37
really like anyone else. I would say, I would say, Alex
50:42
Jones. But I would also, I mean, Buck
50:45
Sexton the guy who replaced not bad, not bad, I not bad.
50:55
I like him more on his own podcast when he's when he just
50:59
did radio show with clay. Travis.
51:01
And by the way, I do. Why clay Travis but let's face
51:04
it. Clay, Travis is Motor Sports guy
51:06
than anything else. I like them both.
51:10
But again, they're not rush and they are more.
51:15
They're not like as established as Hannity is, but they don't
51:21
really push back, but the difference between a Michael
51:28
Savage and a Sean Hannity. So, Sean Hannity is doing the
51:33
talking point, the gay talking points over and over again, and
51:38
we're going to fixate on the political thing that's going on
51:40
right now. And we're just going to could
51:42
keep you hammer it home. And I'm going to say the all our
51:46
bull pinion whereas michaelsavage, like I said, I
51:48
just ruined michaelsavage on the way.
51:50
Lat Ian michaelsavage don't see eye-to-eye on a lot, but the
51:54
difference is that he's a personality and that sometimes
51:57
he'll bring antidotes and other things into his radio show that
52:02
make him, you know, like a fucking human being make him
52:06
relatable. Yeah, he gets frustrated, he
52:10
gets animated. He, you know, does those things?
52:13
And I really like that because the primary problem that I have
52:18
in the podcasting to space. Is kind of being, I think more
52:22
monotone and boring. And so, I try to make sure that
52:28
I bring about enough, like Joe said, things like that, so that
52:32
I can get over that sort of home.
52:34
The, my, my problem, with my problem with talk radio,
52:38
especially in like, conservative talk, radio was kind of the
52:41
whole like a perfect example. Is everyone kind of in the
52:46
conservative space was like, Jose.
52:50
Um, are you gonna hack her? Are you going to talk about the
52:52
about the Twitter files? And I'm like, yeah, I'll talk
52:55
about it. So we have heard it in one week
52:56
and then the second week like I looked I look through them and
53:01
I'm like, well, fuck this is shit.
53:03
We already, we already knew that was good.
53:06
That was going on. Right?
53:07
So why the fuck do I do? I need why the fuck am I
53:12
covering shit that we all that we were talking like five years
53:17
ago? That have happened, I guess?
53:21
I think that it is important. I think that it's important for
53:25
a subsection sub-sect of us to become very fluent in knowing
53:32
all of the sources, you being a site things and being able to
53:35
hit hard, it is important to have a class of people that can
53:39
be like that so that they can go on a show like Joe Rogan so that
53:43
they can enter other spaces and yeah the data and have an
53:48
outside influence, right? Right.
53:50
It's not important for the average person, or people who
53:54
aren't going to go into that endeavor to become completely
53:57
and utterly fluent in it. And I had this when I was doing
54:01
broadcasting, because when I was doing podcasting, I put so much
54:06
effort, like, so much time into show prep and making sure that I
54:09
knew all these things. And I kept it up to date where
54:12
as you kind of grow older we're not even grow older.
54:16
But As I Grew Older rather right?
54:19
I found that it was much better for me to focus on general
54:22
theory. And stop like following the news
54:25
cycle and stop like getting into the trivial thing because I can
54:30
make pretty accurate predictions and have an understanding what's
54:35
going on because of my general knowledge of how things work,
54:37
right. I can just use my intuition.
54:40
I don't have to listen to this week's.
54:43
We got Trump because duh du du du du or, you know what I mean?
54:47
I don't have to listen to this week's, we got him thing or this
54:52
weeks. Transgender Antics right to know
54:59
that it's going on and to make predictions in the world.
55:03
Yeah, well it's interesting, when I, when I started doing
55:08
podcasting, it was essentially read.
55:12
It was essentially reading in the news, the news, right.
55:16
But then like probably Two or three well really since 2016.
55:25
Yeah, I realized that that's like full of, you know, even not
55:30
even on the right like reading reading the news can be boring
55:35
because a anyone can do it but be it's like It's like there
55:40
really aren't any. Hot takes like you, you know,
55:45
Trump's like, you know, Trump's like running again, you know, in
55:50
20 like we knew we knew that was going to happen, right?
55:55
It's not really. It's not really a surprise
56:00
surprise. And I mean, I guess I should I
56:05
should have I shouldn't have been surprised in the car and he
56:10
got the speakership again but again like that's that's another
56:14
example like all that was in the news this week was literally all
56:19
about McCarthy. This is why I'm so much more
56:24
interested in The theory and like we started the show with
56:29
Talk of the conspiracy theorist of like there's so much stuff
56:33
going on in the spaces. That's not going to be covered
56:36
by most people. I mean there's so much going on
56:39
that's that's more more deeper. It speaks to people more and
56:46
it's more novel, right? We're all encountering the
56:51
conspirators would be if you're online and you're right wing.
56:54
Yeah, you're Encountering the skatopia where you're like, no
56:59
and then they get mad at you because you agree with them on
57:04
XY and z. And it's not the allowable
57:06
opinion of CNN but you don't agree that there's like
57:08
microchips or something. Yeah, we're all encountering.
57:15
That's worth speaking about. Well, I'm not yet.
57:22
Getting ready to wrap it up. Okay.
57:26
Yeah, that's fine. I'm I'm ready to kind of Rap
57:33
about as well I guess, you know. Well here's my question.
57:40
No, but I asked us to come other guys, but like, if you were to
57:42
run the, you know, the the conservative movement like as a
57:48
whole, what would, what would be?
57:50
What would be your Doctrine? What would shmuly ISM face first
57:54
and foremost. It's now going to be an app on
57:56
your phone. We're getting rid of the emails
58:01
asking you for money. Every 5 seconds and instead
58:05
you're going to download an app, you're going to give your
58:08
personal information of the town you live in roughly your
58:12
occupation. We're going to put job listings
58:15
up. These job listings are going to
58:18
be positions that need to be filled.
58:22
You're going to go through a process of application, you're
58:26
going to get chosen. Then everyone else on the app is
58:29
going to tell vote for this guy, he's our pick.
58:33
You're then going to be put into that position.
58:36
Duly elected. If you deviate from what you're
58:39
told to vote for and how you're told to vote, if you deviate
58:42
from the edicts that we laid out, you won't get chosen next
58:47
time, you'll be evicted from the app the app can tell You hey,
58:51
you need to donate five dollars to this race.
58:54
That might be of importance to you, where you're at.
58:57
Because lots of people, we have very broad but shallow support,
59:04
lots of people are willing to do something.
59:07
One or two times, they're willing to show up maybe one
59:11
place that's near them. They're willing to spend a
59:14
little bit of money. They're willing to vote for who
59:16
you tell when you tell them to but you got to direct them.
59:21
And it's got to be one time thing.
59:23
You don't want to spam their emails with that.
59:25
You also don't want people in there making their own little
59:29
like their own little Cult of Personality making their own
59:34
little like, Conti, I'm going to represent my people this way.
59:39
So you want it centralized, you want it in the hand to Donald
59:43
Trump. It's going to be a nap.
59:46
And it's going to let us just do whatever he wants us to do.
59:49
All right. I like it.
59:53
Yes. Yeah, because this is a
59:56
political tool for politics in the 21st century rather than the
1:00:02
tools that they're currently using, which are for.
1:00:08
Can I really even say 20th century, like, or is it 19th
1:00:12
century Tech like, I guess what? Yeah, well, yeah, well, we'll
1:00:19
see that. That's, that's the other thing
1:00:21
too, is like I have said this for Since the beginning of my
1:00:26
show in like 2009, conservatives do not know.
1:00:33
Like Trump was trumps the only conservative to really know how
1:00:37
to use. Social media.
1:00:40
Well effectively i-i'm sorry but Turning Point USA like posting
1:00:47
memes like talking about like you know big government spending
1:00:52
is bad. Like that's just cringe like no
1:00:55
shit. Well, I think I think they have
1:00:59
their purpose and I think that they do an okay job.
1:01:02
I did give them a 5 out of 10. They do.
1:01:05
Have they do have their purpose, but it's like, But when you're
1:01:10
saying these people are using social media effectively.
1:01:12
It's like yes and no. Like, yeah, they're using social
1:01:17
media effectively. But are they using social media
1:01:20
in order to create a situation in which they have data on large
1:01:26
swaths of things that allow them to affect the real world in a
1:01:29
practical sense? Do they have a method by which
1:01:32
they can remind everyone to vote that doesn't just become a
1:01:36
fucking Avenue for or give me money.
1:01:39
Give me money. Give me money until you put it
1:01:40
in the spam folder. Yeah.
1:01:44
Which is what the Republican party and Donald Trump's people
1:01:47
and Ron Sanders is people. Do I know because I received the
1:01:50
emails? Oh horrendous.
1:01:52
Oh me too. I I get well, I get the emails
1:01:56
is like that's like and I always get them late at night and it
1:02:01
was like, what I always get? The emails are like last there
1:02:05
are only five minutes left to donate.
1:02:08
And if you donate, now will match whatever your donation is
1:02:12
times 20 and, you know, we're something else.
1:02:16
Hmm, or something like that. Yeah, there it's cringe, it's
1:02:19
week. We know it's cringe.
1:02:21
It doesn't give people a feeling of power.
1:02:23
You want to give people a feeling of power.
1:02:25
You tell them. Hey, go do this thing.
1:02:29
You show up here and protest. Here's the GPS coordinates, all
1:02:33
the other people have also been fucking told to go here right
1:02:36
now. Well yeah.
1:02:37
Yeah. Well, the thing of it is is I
1:02:40
mean, that was a Democrat tactics and I mean I hate to say
1:02:43
it but like we should like start protesting more like the Dem,
1:02:51
the Dems do that and it's like, yeah, I know.
1:02:57
Well, I mean, okay, we shouldn't we shouldn't through Regional.
1:03:01
Like we should start like torching buildings and shit like
1:03:05
that. Like, I'm not I'm not saying we
1:03:06
should go full Antifa, right. But like But like, I don't think
1:03:13
shit. I don't think Jan a 6 on its own
1:03:18
like yeah, like the the retards that went into the cabin and
1:03:22
whatnot. Like that's like that's stupid,
1:03:25
right? I get, I get that.
1:03:28
But okay, but here's here's here's my point, right?
1:03:32
If we're going up against the media and Academia, What
1:03:37
institution are we protesting to make change?
1:03:43
Who are we calling on? Who has power to make change?
1:03:48
Because yeah, the left can do that because they can demand
1:03:50
these institutions make change. And then behind the scenes, they
1:03:54
actually use a bunch of, like, money, status and ngos.
1:03:59
Well yeah, it's only part of one broader point.
1:04:03
So to say that conservatives should protest only if the
1:04:08
resource only if it accomplishes something that is worth three.
1:04:12
Resources and I would argue that, I can't really see that
1:04:16
happening. Unless unless, like I said, it's
1:04:19
app. We can have spontaneously, like,
1:04:25
if Donald Trump gets elected, a department is doing bullshit,
1:04:30
right? He says, FBI is gone.
1:04:32
They go to drag their heels or somebody's disobeying.
1:04:36
Then you have am a swap of the people to fill the streets to
1:04:41
show support. That shows a message that would
1:04:44
actually make sense because you're using your Democratic
1:04:49
energy, you're using the energy of the masses to show your
1:04:53
numbers and for a very specific thing at a very specific time
1:04:58
and place. But it is not good to have our
1:05:02
people go out and hold gay signs thinking that they're going to
1:05:08
change the world when they're not because that's not how
1:05:11
power. Actually works in my estimation.
1:05:15
Yeah. Let's see top bead Coco says oh
1:05:22
hey it's the same with field gaslighting shmulik Schwarz mm
1:05:26
show. How I was that mean how I top
1:05:30
feed? How am I gaslighting?
1:05:32
Shmuly here? Protests are only allowed
1:05:37
because they accomplish nothing. I mean that's that's my point.
1:05:45
My point being with the whole Protest thing is like, is the
1:05:48
right-wing always gets their panties.
1:05:51
And in a tizzy saying that the, that the, you know, the protests
1:05:57
are like a moral right when the left does it.
1:06:01
But if we were to do it like it's called an Insurrection,
1:06:07
right? Then some been Freedom, has
1:06:15
never given voluntarily by the oppressor.
1:06:18
It must be demanded by the oppressed and like a and then
1:06:23
copied offices Democratic energy with some emojis.
1:06:29
Well, in any system, you're going to have the three forms of
1:06:32
government, right? You're going to have basically,
1:06:34
monarchy rule of one, oligarchy role of the many, or you're
1:06:39
going to have timocracy rule of the masses, right?
1:06:42
You never really get rid of the energy of all three in our
1:06:45
system. Yeah, especially is meant to not
1:06:49
really diminish. It's meant to have all three
1:06:52
right? Initially.
1:06:54
I don't think that the protesting is effective and
1:07:00
less. Like I said, you have that clear
1:07:04
and specific fucking thing. You're demanding.
1:07:07
Someone in power do right now, right?
1:07:10
Yeah, put pressure. On him to do it, just by number.
1:07:14
I think violence is counterproductive.
1:07:16
I think that's not a very good strategy and so we're left with
1:07:21
other strategies, right? Well, well what why have you and
1:07:26
I told you my theory on January 6 and the whole like in
1:07:31
Insurrection, quote unquote. I think that like that the whole
1:07:38
queue and on thing was a whole was was a psyop to make Trump
1:07:45
look bad. I think it was a sigh of my
1:07:48
fortune. Yeah.
1:07:53
Well, what if, what if 4chan hear me?
1:07:56
Out was iíve no evidence for this whatsoever.
1:08:00
But if we're going, if we're going to go down the hole, you
1:08:04
know, conspiracy, see Rob whole, what if they can Spirit ards?
1:08:09
We're actually CIA, you know, people willing, knowing or
1:08:14
unknowing to make shrimp look bad.
1:08:19
If I were, if I were to see I I would I would make Trump
1:08:25
supporters all look absolutely batshit insane.
1:08:28
It's possible. I also think it's one of those
1:08:31
things where like it was funny to troll a bunch of like
1:08:38
Boomers. Like these these conspiracy
1:08:43
theory Trump people. So yeah.
1:08:46
And like so Fortune did it and also it benefited all of the
1:08:52
wrong people, right? For sure.
1:08:56
I mean your, it's not impossible, like, like what
1:08:59
you're saying is definitely not something that's completely
1:09:01
impossible. That it was like, a complete
1:09:04
psyop from beginning to end and no.
1:09:07
And, and it was he like, that's the odd thing is, I'm at the
1:09:10
point now where I wear I can wear, I can entertain that 50.
1:09:15
Yeah. 5c. Like I'm at the level where I'm
1:09:18
where, like I'm not a conspirator tarde but I'm also
1:09:22
not like I'm also not Not like completely anti conspiracy
1:09:28
either will see this is this is this is the difference, right?
1:09:32
Like this is difference between like considerate arde schizos
1:09:36
and like reasonable people who are well informed and
1:09:40
unfortunately they view us as fellow Travelers.
1:09:44
I'm saying we gotta we gotta cut them off at the pass.
1:09:49
We gotta tell these guys. Nah fuck you.
1:09:52
Fuck your fly logic. We're going after you We're not
1:09:55
going to sit here anymore and just like entertain your wild
1:09:59
delusions, right? Hmm.
1:10:05
Not going to happen. How is it a full strike on?
1:10:07
Amitabh feed? Go.
1:10:08
Can you expand upon that? I was obviously referring to the
1:10:14
fact that you have Democratic Monarch whole and oligarchy,
1:10:18
willpower, like, I don't see how that's a false trichotomy when
1:10:24
what other power could you have, right?
1:10:29
I mean, I mean, we, I mean, we could be all ruled by
1:10:32
extraterrestrials and I don't think top feed.
1:10:35
Coco is one of those people, okay.
1:10:37
But if we ruled by extraterrestrials, it's their
1:10:39
one extraterrestrial King. Is there an oligarchy of Kings?
1:10:45
Or are they Democratic right? Like that that, you know what I
1:10:52
should I should have had you on, like, I should've had you on a
1:10:56
couple of years ago because I actually had Add some when I
1:11:00
used to be a take to take phone calls along as how to write II,
1:11:04
when I had the aliens run, everything bro, crowd calling to
1:11:10
the show and they were like and yeah shit, I wish I would have.
1:11:15
I wish I would have asked if the little green but now I mean it's
1:11:20
the basis of like Machiavelli ins Political, he really likes,
1:11:27
faces political signs. Yeah.
1:11:30
Like the three types. I mean, II think.
1:11:33
Now they instead of monarchy. They say, like dictatorship or
1:11:38
something. Yeah, because there's something
1:11:42
totally modern and PC and obviously not tilted towards
1:11:49
democracy. Anyway.
1:11:52
Yeah, but yeah. Well, I mean, because don't, you
1:11:57
know, that everyone nowadays, it's far more intelligent than
1:12:01
people in the past. Don't you know, that there's
1:12:04
absolutely no downsides at all ever to democracy and that
1:12:08
there's no real good critique of democracy and everybody who came
1:12:11
Before it's just idiots and, you know, that's him.
1:12:14
Oh, yeah, do I, yeah, I know. I know that fully.
1:12:17
Yeah, I know that my, I know that Machiavelli.
1:12:22
Oh, you know that that's just the, you know, the prince.
1:12:26
That's just an old book that's not relevant today at all,
1:12:31
right. We just, we just want democracy
1:12:34
to work and it's our democracy. And, and that means that, that
1:12:39
some people need to decide who to Because we don't want the bad
1:12:42
opinions, that would be a danger to our democracy.
1:12:45
I'm saying that these there are other possible forms of
1:12:48
government or no government whatsoever, but it isn't in the
1:12:51
best interest of the wealthy owner well-liked.
1:12:56
I mean the anarchist thing Perhaps Perhaps you have me
1:13:00
there but the other forms of government are going to be some
1:13:05
combination or extreme of monarchy will buy one oligarchy
1:13:12
ruled by the, you know, many and then democracy like rule by
1:13:15
everybody, right? Yeah.
1:13:20
What rule by the few rule by the few not.
1:13:23
Yeah. Not true but sorry I said that
1:13:27
and and that was in die in that was in response to top feeds
1:13:32
last comment he says ice I'm saying there are other possible
1:13:38
forms of government. Or no government wants ever but
1:13:43
you know, the no, the no government whatsoever.
1:13:45
I mean, yeah, yeah, I would say that without a form of
1:13:52
government, if you have other institutions like corporations,
1:13:58
private companies or coops, or unions, or what.
1:14:02
However you would have institutions that are Ruled by a
1:14:09
monarch and oligarch or a rule by the many right?
1:14:15
Yeah. Caretaker also says we should
1:14:18
protest by not voting at all which I mean, Maybe but there
1:14:29
are too many people. See, the other thing too is, and
1:14:34
I mean, I hate to bring this up but you have to bring up.
1:14:37
You have to consider the fact that by default, they're always
1:14:41
going to be NPCs, or normies, or whatever you want to call them,
1:14:47
and the end the NPC's caretaker Are just going to vote, not
1:14:54
because they have an opinion on something because the normies
1:14:58
are like, well, it's election time.
1:15:00
You're supposed to vote. Therefore, they always do.
1:15:04
So you protesting by not voting isn't really going to do
1:15:10
anything. I don't think so.
1:15:14
I mean, theoretically, the best way to show, well, if you were
1:15:20
like, I don't know if Jeb Bush got the Republican nomination,
1:15:25
right? Jab exclamation mark, right?
1:15:28
Like, it would be pretty effective to vote for all the
1:15:33
Republicans, except for Jeff, right?
1:15:37
Because then when they're looking at the voter data, the
1:15:39
look at the turnout and the success of all the other
1:15:41
candidates, except for their presidential run, and then they
1:15:44
can draw the opinion that he did poorly with the party.
1:15:47
Right? Yeah.
1:15:49
So that there are ways to protest with vote.
1:15:51
It's I think not voting. It's probably the least
1:15:55
effective one but I mean if you got enough people obviously that
1:15:59
way. Yeah yeah.
1:16:00
Well and yeah well that's what I'm saying.
1:16:02
They're not they're not voting thing only works if you have
1:16:05
enough people but what I'm saying is on the national level
1:16:10
and how even on the state level, you have too many.
1:16:13
You have to any normies in any, in any in any given space that
1:16:19
are just going to vote because they're told.
1:16:21
All they should bow. It's not going to make a
1:16:25
difference. So let's see top feet Cosette
1:16:29
some monarchs never have absolute rule without the
1:16:33
blessing of other powerful wealthy I don't know about all
1:16:40
wealthy but certainly monarchs in the past have had courts and
1:16:45
that's why very rarely. Do you see a pure form of a
1:16:50
Nation rule solely on one of them, they're going to be a
1:16:54
calm, a combination of them to different degrees.
1:16:57
Well, I would say that a monarch having a cord around him, still
1:17:03
insinuates some degree that he has.
1:17:07
Power. And that's why they congregate
1:17:08
around him solely and they do constitute usually an oligarchy
1:17:14
but they're getting their power from the rule of the king.
1:17:17
So I think that that's an interesting combination of
1:17:23
Monarchs have to keep other powerful allies to continue and
1:17:26
be. Yeah, no, absolutely absolutely.
1:17:29
I mean, it's the same thing like Soviet Union fell to democratic
1:17:32
energy right in the end. Yeah, well the thing is, the
1:17:36
thing I Russia is Russia is basically run by oligarchs.
1:17:45
Or was for a long for a long time after the after the, you
1:17:52
know, the post. So that that's why it's so
1:17:56
amusing because it's like Igor who owns the oil there.
1:18:02
Right? Igor sechin.
1:18:05
Yeah, name is like he's the second most powerful man.
1:18:09
The thing that keeps him from taking over is that everyone
1:18:11
else hates him. And what immediately kill him if
1:18:16
he took out Putin, right? Yeah.
1:18:18
But yeah but then who himself is also propped up by you know?
1:18:24
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so in every society, you
1:18:28
have that, in fact, there's a concept called the iron law of
1:18:31
oligarchy which basically says that an oligarchy will form in
1:18:35
every single political system. yeah, because the idea that like
1:18:43
the idea that status and power is going, did we did we lose
1:18:54
family there? yeah, I think we might have
1:19:11
Yeah, we might have we might have washed, but ways we lost
1:19:16
his not. Yeah.
1:19:19
Oh you're back. I don't know what happened.
1:19:22
No, I just was saying that I was just saying that you're never
1:19:28
really going to have a pure form, right?
1:19:31
Yeah. Sorry.
1:19:33
I'm trying to well, well now you would you talk about the theory
1:19:38
of the iron law of oligarchy? Yeah.
1:19:42
So like every society is just going to wind up with some
1:19:44
people. Some small few people holding
1:19:47
more political power than everyone else.
1:19:51
Yeah. I'm gonna like it's kind of like
1:19:55
that with money to. It's like the pre do
1:19:56
distribution, right? Yeah.
1:19:59
Well, you know, if you want to look at it, you know, we have
1:20:03
that with corporations here. I know in America.
1:20:07
Um, yeah, yeah. But like we also have that with
1:20:10
status rightly, those who can influence other people's ideas
1:20:14
or well, how do I phrase this yeah, perhaps yeah yeah could
1:20:23
continue or thought because that's what I was going to say
1:20:25
is that the most powerful institutions In America are the
1:20:30
ones that influence the way, people think, right Academia and
1:20:35
the media? Yeah, well, well, Academia, you
1:20:39
know, big media and then also, you know, big Tech to at this
1:20:43
point, you know, what do I like? And I mean, I guess,
1:20:49
technically, that could be what, you know, combined with like me,
1:20:53
do whatever. But like, you know, your, if you
1:20:56
gone to for me to like your Your algorithms are kind of, you
1:21:01
know, engineered to like Focus you on this pointer that pointer
1:21:08
or whatnot. So yeah, I mean I just think
1:21:13
that I think the founders read Machiavelli, know they did and
1:21:21
there's nothing there's no way I could be convinced the opposite
1:21:24
because the way that they initially designed the federal
1:21:30
government Was in order to have monarchy the executive branch.
1:21:38
Democracy, Congress oligarchy, the Senate.
1:21:44
Yeah, I will do with top feed Coco.
1:21:49
That goddess is that God has a sense of humor and likes to keep
1:21:54
things spicy. I am living proof of that top
1:21:58
feed. Me being me, be me going from
1:22:03
supposedly supposed to be like nonverbal to now being like a
1:22:08
podcast. It won't shut up.
1:22:11
And I think that that's definitely funny in and of
1:22:14
itself. But, yeah, I see badass.
1:22:20
I mean overcoming that hardship, like that's the most fucking
1:22:23
mainly, dude. I know.
1:22:27
I can't tell if you're if you're being funny or being genuine but
1:22:33
I appreciate it. No, I'm being genuine, I mean to
1:22:36
to be basically nonverbal and to overcome that to this degree,
1:22:41
like shows the level of like yeah, fucking perseverance that.
1:22:47
I mean, you have to have built a, you have to have built enough
1:22:50
character to achieve that, right?
1:22:52
Why I do want to point out too that like That, that the, when I
1:22:58
was born and had cerebral palsy, they told my parents that I was
1:23:05
going to be nonverbal and whatnot and basically be a
1:23:08
vegetable and my parents, especially my mom who's based
1:23:13
was like no, fuck that. So like by the time I was like a
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year old. She had me in speech therapy and
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now yeah I can't shut the fuck up.
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the show, man. Yeah, no, it was, it was great
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kind of fucked up the whole shows, you know, plans, but
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So I appreciate it and I guess folks, I'll be back on Tuesday
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So look out for that and I'll be back for the live show.
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Next that, well, I'll be doing three shows this week Tuesday,
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You know, in the meantime, I know I know Ralph Romania is
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get more. I need to get milk or Nation on
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I need to I need to find out what hoax was whole Thing is
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the whole, the whole internet wants to know what makes hoax
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Wars tick, And I'm hoping top feed Coco can help us find out
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