Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Advancing Patient Flow and Clinical Excellence at Atlantic Health System with Dr. Geralda Xavier
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- 0:45Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the Becker's
- 0:48Healthcare podcast. I'm Mackenzie Bean, associate vice president
- 0:51and managing editor of Becker's Hospital Review.
- 0:55Today, I'm so thrilled to welcome back doctor
- 0:57Geraldo
- 0:58Xavier, who is a regional chief medical officer
- 1:01with Atlantic Health System.
- 1:03Doctor Xavier, welcome back to the podcast. Thanks
- 1:05for joining us today.
- 1:07Hey. Thanks, Mackenzie. Really appreciate you having me
- 1:10on.
- 1:11Hope all is well with you as well.
- 1:13Looking forward to our conversation.
- 1:16Yeah. I know we,
- 1:17got to speak on the podcast
- 1:19last spring. So here we are a year
- 1:21later. So I'm excited to check-in and and
- 1:24hear about some of the progress that you've
- 1:25made and the efforts going on at Atlantic
- 1:27Health System right now.
- 1:29But I'm doing well. Thank you for asking.
- 1:33Before we dive into the conversation, I'd love
- 1:35to turn the floor over to you just
- 1:36to briefly introduce yourself,
- 1:38and tell us a little bit more about
- 1:40your work at Atlantic Health System for anyone
- 1:42who may not have caught your previous episode.
- 1:44Sure. Absolutely.
- 1:46Absolutely. So as you said, I'm a board
- 1:48certified emergency medicine physician
- 1:51and healthcare executive, currently serving as a regional
- 1:55chief medical officer,
- 1:57for Atlantic Health Hackettstown
- 1:59and Newton Medical Centers. We are based in
- 2:02New Jersey.
- 2:03I've spent my career, leading large complex hospital
- 2:06system,
- 2:07through clinical, operational, and strategic transformation,
- 2:11but always with a focus on quality patient
- 2:13safety and health equity.
- 2:16So a little bit about me. My background
- 2:18combines both frontline clinical experience and executive leadership.
- 2:22I began my career in emergency medicine and
- 2:25progressively took
- 2:26on additional leadership roles from medical director and
- 2:30chair to,
- 2:31chief quality officer to now my new, role
- 2:34as the chief medical officer.
- 2:37Those experiences have certainly helped shape my commitment
- 2:40to serve in diverse and vulnerable populations while
- 2:43driving measurable
- 2:45system level improvements.
- 2:47At Atlantic Health, I oversee clinical strategy and
- 2:50operations for new in at Hackettstown Medical Centers,
- 2:54two of our community,
- 2:55medical centers within our network.
- 2:58My responsibility,
- 3:00while varied, includes
- 3:02quality and patient safety,
- 3:04regulatory
- 3:05readiness,
- 3:06clinical outcomes,
- 3:07physician engagement, and care coordination.
- 3:11I really work, it's a matrix organization, and
- 3:13we work closely with our site based and
- 3:16system leadership
- 3:17as well as both employed and voluntary physician
- 3:20to align with strategy and performance.
- 3:22Really, with the key to ensure that we're
- 3:24delivering high quality,
- 3:26high reliable, strong value based care outcomes
- 3:29with exceptional,
- 3:31patient experience.
- 3:33Yeah. Over my career, you have led,
- 3:36significant challenges and work with transforming organization
- 3:41to improve
- 3:42their quality and reputation programs.
- 3:44As we mentioned in the last
- 3:47podcast, one of the work we did is
- 3:49really focusing on how we improve readmissions
- 3:52for these vulnerable cohorts,
- 3:55pulmonary,
- 3:56congestive heart failure, COPD, and acute myocardial infarction.
- 4:00And that program has sustained some while undergoing
- 4:04some challenges, has really sustained good improvements over
- 4:07time,
- 4:08really, which is something we're proud of.
- 4:10Also,
- 4:11really
- 4:13looking forward to ensuring that we are,
- 4:16continue to be a leapfrog aid at our
- 4:18centers.
- 4:19We do see hospital acquired conditions.
- 4:22And really for me, really guiding emergency management
- 4:25responses,
- 4:27while what we did during the pandemic and
- 4:29actually really post pandemic, really trying to strengthen
- 4:33interdisciplinary
- 4:34collaboration,
- 4:36improve organizational
- 4:37key performance indicators.
- 4:39It really advanced for me personally working with
- 4:42physician to advance
- 4:43peer review transparency
- 4:45and enhancing both workforce engagement and satisfaction.
- 4:49So really,
- 4:50I believe sustainable excellence in health care comes
- 4:53from really aligning with physicians and aligning with
- 4:54physicians and frontline teams
- 4:56with executive leadership around a shared vision, delivering
- 5:00safe, equitable, and high quality care for every
- 5:02patient
- 5:04every time.
- 5:05So, really,
- 5:07looking forward to this continued work that we're
- 5:09doing within our health care space.
- 5:12Yeah. I'm looking forward to hearing more about
- 5:14it. I think you paint
- 5:16such a clear strategic vision of this work
- 5:19and and what needs to be done to
- 5:20really move the needle for for
- 5:23patients in your communities.
- 5:25As you mentioned, the last time around the
- 5:26podcast
- 5:28laid out,
- 5:29some information for us in terms of the
- 5:31significant gains you've made in in readmissions, particularly
- 5:34for those vulnerable groups.
- 5:35I'm curious now speaking to you in early
- 5:38twenty twenty six, as you reflect back on
- 5:40the past twelve months, what would you say
- 5:42is the most important initiative that you have
- 5:44led? What did you do, and what were
- 5:46some of the results that you've seen?
- 5:48Yeah. Thanks.
- 5:50As we said, so many different priorities, so
- 5:53many things that are important to the organization
- 5:55for many of the things you talk about.
- 5:58But one of the, one of the important
- 6:00initiative I'll share,
- 6:02that I've
- 6:03led and worked with the multidisciplinary
- 6:05team over the past year is really
- 6:07focusing on capacity management and patient flow,
- 6:11specifically looking to reduce length of stay while
- 6:13improving throughput, safety, and overall experience.
- 6:17We are no different from many healthcare system.
- 6:19We face rising volumes,
- 6:22workforce constraints, and increasing
- 6:24access challenges.
- 6:26And, you know, patient flow is a passion
- 6:29project as well for me because it's not
- 6:31just an operational issue. It is fundamentally
- 6:34a patient safety and quality imperative.
- 6:37As we know that delays in,
- 6:39patient flow or delays in movement creates,
- 6:42risk and is a dissatisfier,
- 6:45for patients.
- 6:47They do affect care transition. It affects staff
- 6:50workload,
- 6:51and ultimately the care experience.
- 6:54So,
- 6:55with that in mind, I organized and led
- 6:57a multidisciplinary capacity management
- 6:58and capacity management and patient flow committee.
- 7:02We brought together stakeholders from across the continuum,
- 7:05such as nurse leadership, physicians,
- 7:08transport, bed management, ancillary services.
- 7:12Really, the key was ensuring that everyone who
- 7:15touches the patient journey
- 7:17had both a voice and a shared accountability,
- 7:20because I believe that flow is not owned
- 7:22by one department or one entity. It really
- 7:24is a system responsibility.
- 7:27With that premise,
- 7:28we really approach this work using a multimodal
- 7:31strategy.
- 7:33We optimize
- 7:34observational level of care management
- 7:37by enhancing collaboration
- 7:38between physicians,
- 7:40physician advisors, case management, to ensure we have
- 7:43the appropriate status designation
- 7:46early in the hospitalization.
- 7:48We partner with our clinical leaders to safely
- 7:51shift appropriate
- 7:52diagnostic testing from inpatient to outpatient setting.
- 7:56This required
- 7:57really meaningful
- 7:59physician,
- 8:00engagement and patient education,
- 8:02but it significantly reduced avoidable inpatient days without
- 8:06compromising quality.
- 8:07As a result, we were able to reduce
- 8:10our observation length of stay from an average
- 8:12of thirty six to forty eight hours to
- 8:15less than thirty hours and have been able
- 8:17to sustain those gains.
- 8:19That improvement alone created earlier, bed availability for
- 8:23patients requiring inpatient level of care and significantly
- 8:26improved our overall,
- 8:28throughput efficiency.
- 8:30One of the other key measures we took
- 8:32on in this approach, in this multimodal
- 8:35strategy is redesigning
- 8:37daily interdisciplinary
- 8:39bedside rounds
- 8:40to improve real time communication
- 8:43and identify discharge barriers early.
- 8:46This helps us to align with the care
- 8:48team around a clear daily plan and reduce
- 8:51communication breakdown.
- 8:53And I think more importantly, it helps us
- 8:55to identify discharge barriers early, whether that be
- 8:59clinical or logistical such as transportation needs so
- 9:02we can address them more proactively
- 9:05than reactively.
- 9:07That focus on daily goals and expected discharge
- 9:10dates
- 9:11directly reduces length of stay and improves throughput.
- 9:14It also supports discharge before noon and some
- 9:17other key performance indicators and ensure beds available,
- 9:21when patient needs it for the inpatient level
- 9:24of care.
- 9:25Equally, though, it does strengthen team engagement. Everyone
- 9:28understands their role,
- 9:30their shared accountability,
- 9:32and everyone's working from the same plan.
- 9:35And really when done right, interdisciplinary,
- 9:37we call IDR rounds, can shift culture from
- 9:41the fragmented care to really coordinated
- 9:43high reliable care that benefits all, including patient
- 9:47and staff.
- 9:48And finally,
- 9:50you know, we talked
- 9:51about the way I really believe in robust
- 9:53process improvement in our last episode. And this
- 9:57is no different in this project where really
- 9:59we use lean methodology
- 10:01to help us streamline direct bedding from the
- 10:04emergency department.
- 10:06We started by just mapping out the process
- 10:08to really understand where the delays in the
- 10:10handoffs and rework occur.
- 10:12And then we standardize that work,
- 10:15therefore reducing unnecessary variation and then eliminating steps
- 10:18that don't add value. The use of lean
- 10:21help us to decrease the variation in workflow
- 10:23between providers,
- 10:25both ED providers and hospitalists
- 10:28that that previously led to delays and redundant
- 10:30handoff.
- 10:31By standardizing the direct communication between those teams,
- 10:35that helps to eliminate the non value added
- 10:38steps and remove barriers to timely bed assignment.
- 10:42We and this also helps us improve transparency
- 10:46around throughput metrics and significantly reduce admission to
- 10:49bedtime.
- 10:50So this process really helped the team to
- 10:52empower their frontline teams
- 10:54to solve problems and shift the culture, again,
- 10:57from just a reactive
- 10:59firefighting to disciplined continuous improvement.
- 11:02Overall, we achieved a measurable reduction in length
- 11:05of stay from our baseline.
- 11:07We improved admission to bedtime.
- 11:10We shortened observation stays, as I mentioned,
- 11:13to thirty hours and under,
- 11:15and we improved some other KPIs such as
- 11:18discharge before noon.
- 11:20And that translated to really improve access and
- 11:23decrease in ED boarding,
- 11:25improving our financial performance, and higher patient and
- 11:29staff satisfaction.
- 11:31But I must say, from my perspective,
- 11:33it really is not just about the metrics.
- 11:36It really is about shifting the culture,
- 11:39moving from reactive crisis management to proactive
- 11:42capacity planning.
- 11:44We really built a high functioning multidisciplinary
- 11:47structure
- 11:48that continues to drive improvement and resiliency across
- 11:51the organization.
- 11:52So that culture share from
- 11:55creating a shared ownership of flow across the
- 11:57different
- 11:58multidisciplinary
- 11:59teams that I mentioned
- 12:01is what we know will sustain the results
- 12:03long term.
- 12:04So this is really exciting work that continues
- 12:07a day to day, but it's really nice
- 12:08to see how that structured approach
- 12:12has allowed the teams to be empowered to
- 12:14continue to ensure
- 12:16that their processes are followed. And whenever there
- 12:18is
- 12:19opportunities where we may shift or,
- 12:22there might be,
- 12:23some, what I call,
- 12:26metrics that may be not performing well is
- 12:28to really look at it through the lens
- 12:30of structural problem solving to say, what's not
- 12:32working? How do we get back on board?
- 12:34What do we need to do to engage?
- 12:36What is it that we're learning from the
- 12:38teams and do we need to pivot or
- 12:40or any of those? So pretty exciting work
- 12:42that, we continue to do.
- 12:46Very exciting work with some significant
- 12:49results, as you said.
- 12:51And I I so appreciate your note about
- 12:54the
- 12:55the descriptive
- 12:56structure being important, but also
- 12:59the the culture really underpinning everything, as you
- 13:02said, patient journey,
- 13:04needing to be everyone's accountability.
- 13:06I think that's such a key part of
- 13:08it.
- 13:09I'm curious now looking ahead and say over
- 13:11the next,
- 13:13you know, ten months of 2026,
- 13:16what would you say are your biggest priorities
- 13:18and headwinds that you're focused on now?
- 13:21Yeah. Great question.
- 13:24It feels like we just came out from
- 13:25the,
- 13:26these respiratory surges that we see across the
- 13:29country. But,
- 13:31really, looking ahead, our focus is centered on
- 13:34events in our organizational
- 13:35key strategic priorities,
- 13:38while navigating some of these real headwinds in
- 13:40health care.
- 13:42A couple I, you know, a couple priorities
- 13:44are is, you know, one is definitely our
- 13:46clinical excellence.
- 13:47It remains our foundational,
- 13:50priority.
- 13:51We are continuing to strengthen our, high reliability
- 13:54practice, reduce preventable harm, and really leverage data
- 13:57to drive consistent evidence based care across all
- 14:00service lines.
- 14:02I will be remiss to say one of
- 14:03the one of the most important,
- 14:06factors as well is really improving our consumer
- 14:09experience.
- 14:10Patient expect access, transparency, and seamless coordination.
- 14:14So we're really working to simplify the care
- 14:16journey,
- 14:18while expanding digital capabilities and improving communication.
- 14:22You know, leveraging workforce experience,
- 14:26or and and elevating workforce experience is also
- 14:29a top priority.
- 14:31I mean, I'm sure in talking to other
- 14:32leaders across the country as you do through
- 14:35this,
- 14:36podcast and other avenues of communicating with healthcare
- 14:39leaders, I'm sure you hear about workforce fatigue,
- 14:43recruitment pressures, and retention challenges.
- 14:46And there remain headwinds across the industry.
- 14:49We are focused on engagement,
- 14:51leadership development, and create an environment where our
- 14:54team members feel supported and heard and empowered
- 14:58to do their best work.
- 15:00And, again,
- 15:01financial stewardship underpins everything
- 15:04with ongoing reimbursement
- 15:06pressures and rising costs. You know, we have
- 15:09to stay disciplined. We have to use data
- 15:11to drive
- 15:12decisions
- 15:13and operationally stay efficient
- 15:16while continuing to invest strategically in quality and
- 15:19innovation.
- 15:20So, while, like I said, the headwinds are
- 15:22definitely our workforce constraint,
- 15:24regulatory complexity, and margin compression,
- 15:28which are real. I believe, organizations
- 15:31that stay anchored in quality, equity, and strong
- 15:34physician alignment,
- 15:36really is best positioned to, withstand 2026,
- 15:40and to thrive beyond that.
- 15:43Mhmm.
- 15:44That focus is really core to everything. Right?
- 15:46Yeah.
- 15:48As you said, there are a variety
- 15:50of headwinds that, not just you, but health
- 15:53system executives across the country are facing right
- 15:55now, obviously.
- 15:56Acknowledging those, what do you think specifically is
- 15:59gonna be the hardest thing that you have
- 16:00to do over the coming year?
- 16:03That's a great question, Mackenzie.
- 16:06I think the hardest thing, in the coming
- 16:09year will be balancing those financial discipline
- 16:12with our commitment to clinical excellence and workforce
- 16:15engagement.
- 16:17As I said, we can healthcare continues to
- 16:19face margin pressures,
- 16:21reimbursement uncertainty, and rise in labor and supply
- 16:24costs.
- 16:25But at the same time, we're responsible
- 16:27for our patients and our teams are having
- 16:29changed. In fact, the expectations
- 16:32are even higher than ever.
- 16:34And so, the challenge is making thoughtful,
- 16:36data driven decision about resource allocation
- 16:40without compromising
- 16:41safety and quality or or access, especially
- 16:44if you're in community hospitals.
- 16:47Access can definitely be sometimes a challenge.
- 16:50Another difficult aspect,
- 16:52in the coming year is leading through continued
- 16:55workforce fatigue.
- 16:56I know that several of my colleagues
- 16:59within emergency medicine field, as well as in
- 17:01leadership, have pivoted away from some of that
- 17:04to other less grueling,
- 17:07opportunities
- 17:08due to, just fatigue.
- 17:10Even as we move toward from the acute
- 17:13phase of the pandemic,
- 17:15I think we still see the emotional and
- 17:17operational
- 17:18toll,
- 17:19that remains.
- 17:20So supporting our teams
- 17:22while also making sure
- 17:24that they can adapt to change,
- 17:26improve efficiency, and embrace innovation,
- 17:30will require a different type of leadership that
- 17:33includes
- 17:34empathy,
- 17:35transparency
- 17:37and steadfast leadership.
- 17:39So I think the ultimately,
- 17:41you know, the hardest part is making sure
- 17:43that we make these tough decisions,
- 17:45but in a way that maintains trust trust
- 17:48and trust with our frontline team, with our
- 17:50physicians
- 17:51teams,
- 17:52with our nursing team and our community.
- 17:55That means that we really have to have
- 17:57really great communication,
- 17:59shared accountability,
- 18:01and really staying anchored in our mission.
- 18:04And I think if we can do these
- 18:05things,
- 18:07while very difficult,
- 18:09that will create opportunities to strengthen the organization.
- 18:13Absolutely.
- 18:15Doctor Xavier, I I'm always just,
- 18:18so impressed that, you know, your your focused
- 18:21approach, your dedication to quality and clinical excellence,
- 18:25and it really shines through in in your
- 18:26remarks today. So thank you so much for
- 18:29rejoining us on the podcast to give us
- 18:31a glance into some of your priorities and
- 18:33focuses right now. We so appreciate it. Is
- 18:35there anything else you'd like to add or
- 18:37end on?
- 18:38No. I think, again, thank you so much
- 18:40for the opportunity for the conversation.
- 18:43I really appreciate and enjoy,
- 18:46you know, these these chats. I think that
- 18:48as leaders, we are all trying to really
- 18:52be supportive
- 18:53and make sure that we are able to
- 18:56provide what's needed for team members
- 18:58in a really, in an environment that is
- 19:01psychologically
- 19:01safe, that empowers them to be their best,
- 19:04that empowers them to work at the top
- 19:06of their license.
- 19:07And, you know, and, and making
- 19:10the environment a great place to work. And
- 19:12I think we, Atlantic Health System, as an
- 19:15organization, have always prioritized
- 19:17being a place that our team members can
- 19:19find a great place to work because we
- 19:21do provide some of these,
- 19:24not just,
- 19:25the ability to feel safe and to, have
- 19:27joined in work, but also focusing really on,
- 19:32succession building, workforce development engagement,
- 19:35leadership support, and really providing the infrastructure
- 19:39so that they can do their best work
- 19:41and work, at the top of their license.
- 19:43So,
- 19:44you know, at this juncture where we are,
- 19:46it really is
- 19:48really enlightening to continue to journey,
- 19:51with an organization that has such a great
- 19:53priority on its workforce. So thank you so
- 19:56much once again.
- 19:58Hope to see you
- 19:59one of these good days as,
- 20:01Yes. I know.
- 20:03We're excited to conferences.
- 20:05Yes. We're excited to have you at our
- 20:06annual meeting in April.
- 20:08Looking forward to it. Wonderful. Well, thank you
- 20:10again so much, doctor Xavier. And listeners, thank
- 20:12you as well for tuning in. You can
- 20:15find more podcast episodes by visiting the Becker's
- 20:17podcast page at beckershospitalreview.com/podcasts.