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UK Column News Podcast 4th December 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon.
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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, the fourth of December twenty twenty four, just
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Speaker 2: after one o'clock.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the UK Collin News.
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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Mike Romson joining me today in the studio.
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Speaker 2: It's Charles Mallett. Welcome to the program. Charles, thank you
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Speaker 2: all right, and Vanessa Billy from Damascus. And we're going
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Speaker 2: to be coming on to Syria in the second but
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Speaker 2: later on we're going to be talking well, lots of hoaxes,
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Speaker 2: Charles meathin hoaxes and all kinds of other hoaxes. But
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Speaker 2: let's start off with something which absolutely is not a hoax,
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Speaker 2: and that is the invasion into Syria of the terrorist
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Speaker 2: groups that were expelled from there a few years ago.
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Speaker 3: Vanessa, Yeah, First of all, I would like to reassure
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Speaker 3: people that the situation in Syria, while it is very serious,
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Speaker 3: it's nowhere near as alarm as as it's being presented
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Speaker 3: to be, particularly on social media but also in Western
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Speaker 3: media that are talking of course about the fall of Aleppo,
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Speaker 3: the fall.
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Speaker 4: Of Syria at the end of President Bashola.
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Speaker 3: So I just wanted to quickly demonstrate to people what's
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Speaker 3: going on on the ground, because it's probably very confusing
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Speaker 3: to many people to be hearing all of these place
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Speaker 3: names and not be able to understand where they.
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Speaker 4: Are in relation to both the region.
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Speaker 3: And to the capital Damascus, where I am, of course.
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Speaker 3: So first of all, on the twenty seventh of November,
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Speaker 3: a few hours after the ceasefire came into effect between
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Speaker 3: Lobanon and Israel, terrorist groups from land and from the north.
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Speaker 3: In the north, of course, it's the former Free Syrian
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Speaker 3: Army now known as the Syrian National Army under the
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Speaker 3: control of Turkey laden attack into Aleppo. There was a
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Speaker 3: lot of confusion at that time. There was a loss
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Speaker 3: of communication between the Syrian Arab Army folk, partly because
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Speaker 3: the technology provided by Ukraine, according to Russian experts in Syria,
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Speaker 3: was being used to jam communications during the attacks.
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Speaker 4: So that was the beginning of the attack in Aleppo.
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Speaker 4: As you can see circle there in purple. The real
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Speaker 4: hot zone now is.
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Speaker 3: To the north of Hamma, between Aleppo and Hamma there,
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Speaker 3: as you can see. I'll shire more detailed map in
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Speaker 3: a second talk more about the areas that are under
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Speaker 3: threat there and the circle to the northeast around Alhasseger
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Speaker 3: that has also come under attack by the US Kurdish
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Speaker 3: separatist proxies actually fighting alongside not the Turkish proxies but
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Speaker 3: some of the terrorist groups.
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Speaker 4: That joined them from.
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Speaker 3: Inland in that area, and there the agenda is to
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Speaker 3: take control. There are seven towns that are basically under
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Speaker 3: the control of the Syria and that's what they're attempting
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Speaker 3: to take. The Red Arrows Albu Gamal, which is where
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Speaker 3: the Iraqi resistance forces. Again, I'll talk about that a
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Speaker 3: little bit later on, but that's where the resistance forces
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Speaker 3: from Iraq are gathering with the potential for them to
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Speaker 3: enter Syria and come to the assistance of the Syrian
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Speaker 3: Arab Army. And also in the Hama areas, where basically
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Speaker 3: the Syrian Army has sent massive reinforcements to basically prevent
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Speaker 3: the terrorists reaching Hamar and then being able to carry
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Speaker 3: on down the main roads heading for Homes and Damascus.
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Speaker 3: So also in the Hasco area, if we can just
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Speaker 3: go to the next slide, the Syrian tribal factions and
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Speaker 3: clans have affirmed their support for the Syrian Arab Army,
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Speaker 3: so they are joining the defense of Syria.
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Speaker 4: Alongside the army.
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Speaker 3: And if we look at the next slide, where I've
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Speaker 3: taken kind of zoomed in on the map a little
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Speaker 3: bit so you can see their Hamar and the two
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Speaker 3: red dots that I've pointed out there are the Syrian
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Speaker 3: Christian towns of Mahade and Skiedbeer that were under attack
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Speaker 3: for around six years before their full liberation in twenty twenty,
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Speaker 3: and some of the fiercest battles are being fought around there.
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Speaker 3: Of course, is the terrorists too are managed to break
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Speaker 3: through into these towns, we are looking at a blood bath.
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Speaker 3: They were defended successfully for the years that they were
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Speaker 3: under siege and surrounded pre twenty twenty. And of course
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Speaker 3: the M five is I mentioned, which is the main
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Speaker 3: road that goes from Aleppo to Damascus, is also being
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Speaker 3: fiercely fought over Messieur. As you can see, they're circled
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Speaker 3: in blue as the location of one of the biggest
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Speaker 3: Syrian research and development centers where weapons are developed that
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Speaker 3: are sent to pisboal Iron to the Palestinian resistance. And
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Speaker 3: just a very quick reminder about scale. I was there
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Speaker 3: multiple times. If we can just move to the next slide.
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Speaker 3: I was there multiple times during the attacks from the town.
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Speaker 3: At one point the Nusra Front terrorists were only around
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Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty meters away from the town, in
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Speaker 3: an area called Kalapmadik, which has actually in the last
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Speaker 3: few days fallen and retaken fallen and been retaken by
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Speaker 3: the Syrian Arab Army. So that's how great the threat is.
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Speaker 3: This is a Nabel al Abdullah, the commander of the
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Speaker 3: National Defense Forces from the Syrian Christian towns. This is
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Speaker 3: a quote that he often provided to various media outlets
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Speaker 3: that visited the town. We confirm that we always carry
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Speaker 3: the candles of love and peace in one hand and
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Speaker 3: in the other hand, and the other hand is on
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Speaker 3: the trigger of our gun, and we will never leave
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Speaker 3: this land.
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Speaker 4: Familiar words.
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Speaker 3: And if we look at the next section of the map,
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Speaker 3: so again we mentioned mess Yes Messieaf, where much of
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Speaker 3: the weapon production is carried.
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Speaker 4: Out, not any production, but also development.
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Speaker 3: As you can see, if the terrorists managed to break
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Speaker 3: through the Syrian Army lions at Hama, it's then a
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Speaker 3: relatively short distance to Massiaf. And of course this is
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Speaker 3: to a degree demonstrating that the terrorists are working in
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Speaker 3: allegiance with Israel, because Israel's priority is to both prevent
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Speaker 3: supply lines to hays Blar in Lebanon, but also to
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Speaker 3: prevent the resupply of weapons by occupying or taking control of.
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Speaker 4: The research and development centers.
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Speaker 3: So that gives you an idea of how the terrorists
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Speaker 3: are working on Israel's agenda. And then also if you
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Speaker 3: come down from Homes you see an area called Alcus,
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Speaker 3: which was heavily fought over by hez Bala back in
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Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, and again that is a major supply line
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Speaker 3: from Syria to the Lebanese resistance. And finally, the last
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Speaker 3: matt will just give an idea now of basically the
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Speaker 3: threat areas in Syria. So we've been talking about the
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Speaker 3: lines of battle north of Hamma, the threat to the
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Speaker 3: areas to the south of Hamma, the threat from Israel,
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Speaker 3: because of course what's happened is the Syrian Arabami has
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Speaker 3: been redirected in force to the north of Hamma battle lines,
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Speaker 3: the threat from Israel that has been we've seen unusual
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Speaker 3: movements from Israel in the occupied Golan territory, which of
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Speaker 3: course is Syrian territory, which is the red arrow there
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Speaker 3: also from Dalla and Alsuedo circled there to the south
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Speaker 3: of Damascus that Alsuedo.
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Speaker 4: We've seen the Sacon protests.
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Speaker 3: That again have been backed by Israel and the US
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Speaker 3: and NDADA.
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Speaker 4: There are still i believe.
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Speaker 3: Some UK and US special forces operating alongside the armed
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Speaker 3: groups that are still causing some issues in that A itself,
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Speaker 3: despite it having been to some degree taken under control
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Speaker 3: back in twenty eighteen. And then of course on the
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Speaker 3: border with Jordan and Iraq, you have the biggest US
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Speaker 3: military base at Altanev and the rock Band refugee count
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Speaker 3: just to the south, and those areas are recruitment centers
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Speaker 3: and holding centers for many.
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Speaker 4: Of the terrorist groups that could at any moment.
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Speaker 3: Be released to begin another front against the Syrian arabar.
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Speaker 3: So as I said, it's a serious situation. The Syrian
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Speaker 3: army and its allies are handling it at the moment,
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Speaker 3: but I won't pretend that it's coming up roses by.
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Speaker 1: Any means, no date.
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Speaker 2: And I mean, we we've got to reinforce this point
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Speaker 2: that when we see in the mainstream press the use
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Speaker 2: of the term armed factions are armed or rebel groups,
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Speaker 2: these are terrorists. These are people that have literally come
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Speaker 2: out of al Qaeda at Isis who we our governments
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Speaker 2: have always said we are fighting, but in fact we've
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Speaker 2: got to remember that we have funded, we have armed,
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Speaker 2: and we have supported these groups from the from the
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Speaker 2: beginning of this conflict.
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Speaker 1: And you know we were showing in the first map
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Speaker 1: there you were.
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Speaker 2: Showing it lived to the west of Aleppo and Ghasian
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Speaker 2: Tap in Turkey to the north, and Ghasian Tap was
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Speaker 2: one of the main training areas for these groups.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely.
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Speaker 3: And another thing to add, of course is that Ukrainian
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Speaker 3: intelligence and special forces have been and offering training and
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Speaker 3: drones to the terrorist groups, so Ukraine is also involved
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Speaker 3: in this.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, more this later on. Thank you for that, Vanessa,
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Speaker 2: and I let's come back to the UK and well,
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Speaker 2: I've been trying to talk about this particular bill in Parliament,
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Speaker 2: the Climate and Nature Bill, for at least a week
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Speaker 2: and a half now, and it has never made the cut.
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Speaker 2: So I've been receiving emails about it, so I thought
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Speaker 2: it was about.
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Speaker 1: Time we did actually cover it.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: It is a private member's bill, so whether it has
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Speaker 2: any chance of success, well, we'll see in a second.
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Speaker 1: But this is a bill to.
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Speaker 2: Require the United Kingdom to achieve climate in nature targets
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Speaker 2: and so on.
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Speaker 1: So it's all about trying to force.
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Speaker 2: The government of the day to meet the so called
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Speaker 2: climate change targets. So we should note that this is
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Speaker 2: just the latest iteration of it. So twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 2: this is ros Savage, who's lived them, has put this
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Speaker 2: in as a private member's bill. In twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 2: Alex Saville Labor and Cooperative Party attempted to get it
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Speaker 2: through and it didn't.
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Speaker 1: It failed.
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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two Olivia Blake from Labor failed and
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Speaker 2: also in twenty twenty two Lord reddis Ill lib them
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Speaker 2: Hereditary Peer tried to get it through and it failed
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. Caroline Lucas, the Green Party MP
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Speaker 2: at the time. In twenty nineteen she tried. So that's
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Speaker 2: six times it's been attempted. This is the sixth time
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Speaker 2: at the moment. But it's not just MPs that are
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Speaker 2: behind this whole thing. There's a whole group of people,
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Speaker 2: as we'll see in the second So there's just one
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Speaker 2: example from South Gloucestershire Council. Council signs up to Climate
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Speaker 2: and Nature Bill. By sign up they mean support because
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Speaker 2: of course they can have no direct influence on the
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Speaker 2: bills progress through Parliament except through campaigning and so on.
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Speaker 2: But the campaign itself seems to be being run by
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Speaker 2: this organization zero R, and they say that they can
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Speaker 2: apparently because of course that's upon on Climate and Nature bill.
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Speaker 1: So there you go. So they're going to they're attempting
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Speaker 1: to do this.
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Speaker 2: They're basically saying that because this is going for a
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Speaker 2: second reading in early January or mid January, we'll check
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Speaker 2: that in a second that MPs are going to be
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Speaker 2: debating the bill, one hundred and two supporting votes are
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Speaker 2: needed for to progress. So in other words, that'd be
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Speaker 2: one hundred actual votes plus the two tellers to.
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Speaker 1: Get it to go through.
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Speaker 2: But they're worried that this is going to happen on
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Speaker 2: a Friday, and as usual with things that are happening
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Speaker 2: on a Friday, most people won't turn up for the
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Speaker 2: private member's bill, and so they're worried that people are
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Speaker 2: going to need to get in contact with their MPs
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Speaker 2: to put some pressure on them to make sure they
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Speaker 2: stay there for this vote. That's there, very concerned that
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Speaker 2: that's what happens. So let's just look at zero R
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Speaker 2: and their supporters because it's all kinds. So they have
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Speaker 2: one hundred idiot MPs supporting them. Apparently, they have fifty
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Speaker 2: four from the House of Lords. They have six mayors
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Speaker 2: and metro mayors around the country involved in supporting this bill.
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Speaker 2: They've ate MSPs, three ms fifteen political parties signed up
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Speaker 2: to three hundred and seventy three councils around the country
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Speaker 2: signed up to support this, two hundred and thirty one scientists,
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Speaker 2: and they say thirty two fifth leaders all fifths involved
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Speaker 2: here Protestantism, Catholicism, Jewish, Muslim The whole lot is in there,
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Speaker 2: apparently seven hundred and ninety nine NGOs and other organizations. So,
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Speaker 2: as I said, this is going for its second reading
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Speaker 2: on the apologies end of January twenty fourth of January
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, and so they need to get a
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Speaker 2: vote to get it to go to committee stage. But
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Speaker 2: even then I would suggest that with the Assistant Dying
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Speaker 2: Bill getting all the sort of headlines and the pressure
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Speaker 2: at the moment, I don't think there's really much hope
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Speaker 2: for this to.
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Speaker 1: Progress.
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Speaker 2: Nonetheless, this is a well supported campaign and so anything
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Speaker 2: could really happen, and I would just sort of finish
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Speaker 2: this I went by saying, you know, people look at
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Speaker 2: this website, at the zero our website, and look at
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Speaker 2: the number of councils that are involved.
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Speaker 1: Perhaps you might.
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Speaker 2: Want to get involved with various campaigns to put pressure
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Speaker 2: on councils to change their minds on this issue. And
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Speaker 2: of course Rachel Matthew's the really, i guess, the leading
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Speaker 2: voice in this area and an absolute inspiration if anybody
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Speaker 2: needs inspiration to get involved in a campaign.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've got any thoughts.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, well, it's absolutely right that people should
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Speaker 5: be picking holes in this because it's just yet another
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Speaker 5: example of totally unfounded targets plucked from nowhere to apparently
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Speaker 5: satisfy the planet's desire for this, that and the other.
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Speaker 5: But of course, since the world can't speak for itself,
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Speaker 5: at least environmentally, it's left to these people to make
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Speaker 5: it up as they go along. Of course, the penalty
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Speaker 5: falling upon us, the taxpayer and the people that want
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Speaker 5: to access you know, what is now being called nature
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Speaker 5: or indeed natural capital. So absolutely, even if it doesn't
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Speaker 5: go through, it should it should be seen as a
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Speaker 5: as a sort of bellweather for the way in which
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Speaker 5: things are going on a target basis.
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Speaker 2: Of course, on the net serial issue methane is a
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Speaker 2: big thing. But I mean perhaps rather than worrying about
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Speaker 2: farm animals, we should be worried about the amount of
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Speaker 2: methin that's coming out of the highest of commons and
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Speaker 2: the various councils around the country.
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Speaker 1: Perhaps we should.
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Speaker 5: And it turns out that Are, the large food cooperative
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Speaker 5: formed by a murder of a Swedish and Danish agricultural business,
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Speaker 5: has put out a proposed use of a new feed
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Speaker 5: additive which has caused quite a stir on social media.
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Speaker 5: So we'll just have a look at their promotional video
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Speaker 5: to see what you make of it.
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Speaker 6: I'm Jane, I'm Adam, and we run a family dairy
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Speaker 6: farm with four hundred and twenty cows.
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Speaker 3: We've been OURA members for the last ten years and
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Speaker 3: we've been in the innovation farm for.
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Speaker 4: The last five.
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Speaker 6: The latest innovation we're looking at is beauvair Bovare's a
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Speaker 6: feed additive developed by Dutch company DSM that allows farmers
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Speaker 6: to reduce enteric methane emissions from our dairy herbs, and
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Speaker 6: enteric methane being what the cow's produced during their natural
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Speaker 6: digestive process. Today, we've been working with ARLA and DSM
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Speaker 6: as part of the Beauvair set up process, learning about
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Speaker 6: what's involved and how we can make the parlor to
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Speaker 6: as successful as possible. So the reason we're so excited
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Speaker 6: about BOVA is it's not just some fairy dust that
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Speaker 6: somebody thinks might make some improvements, but it's been really
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Speaker 6: rigorously and extensively tested. Trials like these are really important
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Speaker 6: to help reduce our carbon footprint. We're really pleased that
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Speaker 6: customers are joining us in investing in sustainability on farm.
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Speaker 1: Has it been more regulously tested than the COVID vaccine?
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Speaker 5: I would imagine not, but I wasn't there, so I
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Speaker 5: don't know. What I can say is that safety data
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Speaker 5: sheet again has caused a lot of concern because there
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Speaker 5: were notices about certain adverse impacts on people handling it
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Speaker 5: and indeed on cows, and the fact that it was
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Speaker 5: only suitable for dairy cattle and no other There are
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Speaker 5: a host of other things which wasn't really time to
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Speaker 5: go into today, But the first thing to look at
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Speaker 5: is the supposed science underpinning the claim that methane from
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Speaker 5: cattle is indeed such a problem, and we go into
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Speaker 5: the technical side of it, which is that hydroxical radical
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Speaker 5: plays a central role in tropospheric chemistry. Basically, that is
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Speaker 5: what is breaking down the methane that does escape. And
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Speaker 5: this rather worthy paragraph which says that these observations are
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Speaker 5: sparse and it's highly variable in space and time essentially
17:43
Speaker 5: means that all of this cannot really be measured. So
17:46
Speaker 5: they say that they're not a viable way to map
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Speaker 5: the variability and trends, which means that it all comes
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Speaker 5: down to modeling, like everything else that concerns the climate agenda. Nonetheless,
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Speaker 5: the company that have put it out, DSM, have put
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Speaker 5: out that it's the proven solution for methane reduction, and
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Speaker 5: very quickly they've had to stick out another statement about
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Speaker 5: misinformation because the reaction to this has been quite so strong,
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Speaker 5: And their statement starts by saying that the recent announcement
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Speaker 5: of the BOVA trials in the UK has caused mistruths
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Speaker 5: and misinformation about it safety. We would like to bring
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Speaker 5: you the fact and spell any misconceptions. Both air is
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Speaker 5: safe for use and effective in reducing emissions. Now, my question,
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Speaker 5: I think, Mike, would be are people really going to
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Speaker 5: believe this sort of thing as a counter or is
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Speaker 5: this going to be sort of spun in the kind
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Speaker 5: of climate denial sense.
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Speaker 2: Well, if an effect of Charles, I can't think of
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Speaker 2: any better recommendation.
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Speaker 5: Well, exactly, so, we've seen how that's gone down in
18:55
Speaker 5: the past. Now this isn't an isolated example of a
18:58
Speaker 5: sort of loan company producing a product where no other
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Speaker 5: effort has gone into it. This in fact goes back
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Speaker 5: to at least twenty twenty two. Suddenly, as far as
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Speaker 5: the UK government is concerned, we have defa calling for
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Speaker 5: evidence on what are called the sort of the genus
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Speaker 5: here is the methane suppressing feed products. And within their
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Speaker 5: statement they're talking about how to effectively galvanize people into
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Speaker 5: actually using these things, and of course marketing is that
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Speaker 5: the center of it, and how uptake best be driven
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Speaker 5: and whether it would be by government, industry or voluntary
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Speaker 5: led solutions, and what might these interventions entail. Now, those
19:37
Speaker 5: of you thinking ahead won't be entirely surprised to think
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Speaker 5: that this man here, who has absolutely no qualifications or
19:44
Speaker 5: indeed the physique to suggests that he eats healthily, has
19:48
Speaker 5: of course been playing a central roles we'll just have
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Speaker 5: a look at a video of Bill Gates speaking about
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Speaker 5: methane and cattle.
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Speaker 7: In terms of the cows we actually have. We pursued
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Speaker 7: many solutions. So one is to vaccinate the cows in
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Speaker 7: a way that their gut bacteria that emit the methane,
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Speaker 7: which is also called natal gas or stage four, which
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Speaker 7: is the second most important greenhouse gas. You can vaccinate
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Speaker 7: them and that species of bacteria isn't there. Their stomachs
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Speaker 7: are very special because they can eat grass, you know,
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Speaker 7: it's a three stage fermentation process. Basically, there's another way
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Speaker 7: you can change what they eat, and you could either
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Speaker 7: put that in their water or their feed. There is
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Speaker 7: a drug to change the microbiome, not a vaccine, but
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Speaker 7: a drug that looks very promising. And then there's a
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Speaker 7: solution where you stick a sort of a metal thing
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Speaker 7: into the skin of the cow and it actually burns
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Speaker 7: the methane. And all of these look to be quite
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Speaker 7: cheap and implemental, even in Africa. And so i'm you know,
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Speaker 7: this is one where I wasn't hopeful when I got
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Speaker 7: started a decade agoing. Now it's just question which solution
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Speaker 7: for which country.
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Speaker 5: Now this should cause people to question all sorts of
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Speaker 5: feed additives and indeed the way that their food comes
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Speaker 5: to them, or indeed milk or any product that is
21:27
Speaker 5: consumed in something that's been a theme over the last
21:29
Speaker 5: few weeks. But certainly what Bill gates and he's not
21:32
Speaker 5: an isolated example, but what he does demonstrate is how
21:35
Speaker 5: he has first of all manipulated the agenda itself, but
21:38
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21:41
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21:43
Speaker 5: up vast tracts of farmland and continues to do so.
21:47
Speaker 5: He's now pushing the agenda to ensure that meat and
21:51
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21:55
Speaker 5: But of course he has the other side of it covered.
21:57
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22:00
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22:04
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22:09
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22:13
Speaker 5: And of course, when there are no cows and no
22:15
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22:18
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22:25
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22:28
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22:47
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22:52
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22:55
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24:20
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24:28
Speaker 1: So watch that at one pm.
24:29
Speaker 2: I think that's an extremely interesting conversation one pm tomorrow
24:33
Speaker 2: on the usual places. I want to remind everybody that
24:36
Speaker 2: on Friday this week Sandy Adams is taking part in
24:41
Speaker 2: Agenda twenty thirty. How will it affect You? This is
24:44
Speaker 2: a presentation at a workshop at Chiswick Memorial Hall details
24:47
Speaker 2: in the show notes and on screen at the moment,
24:51
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24:54
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24:57
Speaker 2: the VET saw question everything with Roger Mika, and he's
25:00
Speaker 2: covering a range of issues here, but one of the
25:03
Speaker 2: things he talks about is the inappropriate use of PCR
25:06
Speaker 2: tests in animals, and I think we're just going to
25:10
Speaker 2: deal with that question at least towards the end of
25:13
Speaker 2: this report.
25:13
Speaker 5: Absolutely we are, and something that we've covered a lot
25:17
Speaker 5: over the last year or so, which is bird flu.
25:20
Speaker 5: But before I launch into the latest developments, we're just
25:23
Speaker 5: going to wind the clock back a little bit to
25:25
Speaker 5: the twenty second of May this year and see what
25:28
Speaker 5: was reported by UK column at that point, turn to
25:34
Speaker 5: avian influenza and in particular the preparation for this autumn's pandemic.
25:42
Speaker 5: So again, please stay tuned because this very much refers
25:46
Speaker 5: to humans. The guidance on reporting dead birds has just
25:52
Speaker 5: been updated, which has happened very infrequently since it was
25:55
Speaker 5: first to introduce over a decade ago. But specifically they're
25:58
Speaker 5: saying this is how you should use the service and
26:02
Speaker 5: it'll help you to understand how diseases are spreading, so
26:05
Speaker 5: they'll ask you where you find the dead birds and
26:07
Speaker 5: all the rest of it. But the point of this is,
26:09
Speaker 5: of course that they may be collected and tested for
26:12
Speaker 5: bird flu or another cause of death. Well, I can
26:15
Speaker 5: tell you absolutely for sure that they will only be
26:17
Speaker 5: testing for bird flu because that's all they want to find.
26:20
Speaker 5: They're not in the least bit interested in any other
26:22
Speaker 5: environmental factor because I wrote a freedomation request and had
26:26
Speaker 5: that in black and light that that.
26:27
Speaker 1: Is all they test for.
26:29
Speaker 5: So of course it's no great surprise to learn that
26:31
Speaker 5: they have a bird flu vaccination task Force. Now what
26:35
Speaker 5: do you think they're up to, Well, the Health Security
26:37
Speaker 5: Agency are pushing the boundaries of vaccine research and development.
26:42
Speaker 5: Sounds a bit ominous, but what they say is that
26:45
Speaker 5: they have an agreement with CSL Sequorus, who will be
26:49
Speaker 5: on standby to produce over one hundred million influenza pandemic
26:53
Speaker 5: vaccines tailored to the specific strain of course, if needed. Now,
27:01
Speaker 5: so there we go, and yesterday DEFRA announced that they
27:04
Speaker 5: have secured five million doses of a vaccine, but specifically
27:08
Speaker 5: for humans, as that is where they're predicting. And I
27:13
Speaker 5: use the word in well in very much inverted commas.
27:17
Speaker 5: Of course they have tweeted it. No government announcement is
27:20
Speaker 5: really true unless it's been tweeted, And there are some
27:24
Speaker 5: chickens explaining that we're all in mortal peril from avian influenza.
27:30
Speaker 5: Now they say that they've grewed a contract for more
27:32
Speaker 5: than five million doses of human H five influenza vaccine
27:36
Speaker 5: to boost the country's resilience in the event of a
27:39
Speaker 5: possible H five influenza pandemic. From statement, also, the purchase
27:43
Speaker 5: has been made as part of a long established plans, yes,
27:46
Speaker 5: of course, to boost the UK's access to vaccines for
27:49
Speaker 5: a wider range of pathogens of pandemic potential. Now, how
27:53
Speaker 5: can they guarantee that they have the science right on
27:56
Speaker 5: this or will come to that? But first of all,
27:58
Speaker 5: they say that the a H five N one virus
28:01
Speaker 5: has been causing a prolonged globe black break, primarily in birds,
28:04
Speaker 5: and it is only if this virus were to start
28:08
Speaker 5: spreading among humans, of which there is no evidence at
28:11
Speaker 5: this stage that the human H five influenza vaccine would
28:15
Speaker 5: be used. And yet of course they have just bought
28:17
Speaker 5: five million doses of it, which is what they're announcing.
28:19
Speaker 5: The procurement will strengthen the UK's preparedness for an influenza
28:23
Speaker 5: originated pandemic by ensuring that vaccines are immediately available while
28:27
Speaker 5: a pandemic specific vaccine is made ready. And this is
28:29
Speaker 5: the point they're trying to make, which came out of
28:32
Speaker 5: the sort of ludicrous premise that the COVID vaccine was
28:36
Speaker 5: a vaccine and was meaningful and could be produced in
28:39
Speaker 5: such a short space of time. Effectively had opened the
28:42
Speaker 5: door for this sort of tailoring business to be done
28:46
Speaker 5: immediately once the specific strain had been identified. Now I'm
28:51
Speaker 5: going to go back again to the twenty ninth of
28:53
Speaker 5: May of this year to talk about the choreography of
28:57
Speaker 5: a pandemic as it was seen by UK column at
29:00
Speaker 5: that point.
29:02
Speaker 2: HEDI Now in the meantime Ivian Flew Charles.
29:07
Speaker 5: Yes, yes again, but this time there is rather more
29:11
Speaker 5: to talk about, I think, because what we see is
29:14
Speaker 5: the slow march towards a well choreographed move into the
29:19
Speaker 5: creation of a pandemic. And I will just go through
29:23
Speaker 5: this sort of step by step. This morning, the Human
29:27
Speaker 5: Animal Infections and Risk Surveillance Group, part of the UK
29:30
Speaker 5: Health Security Agency published a document called Avian Influenza in
29:35
Speaker 5: Livestock the Risk Statement. Now I'm not going to go
29:38
Speaker 5: through the specific details of it, but the point is
29:40
Speaker 5: that you put the suggestion out there that there is
29:43
Speaker 5: a defined risk or threat and you allow that information
29:47
Speaker 5: to circulate whilst admitting at the same time that there
29:50
Speaker 5: are evidence gaps. So they admit that the source of
29:53
Speaker 5: infection to the index farm is a gap of gap
29:56
Speaker 5: in evidence, so is the severity of clinical signs, critically
30:00
Speaker 5: the risk to other ruminants and mammalian livestock. And also
30:03
Speaker 5: there's uncertainly around the transmission risks to humans in contact
30:07
Speaker 5: with affected cattle, risk factors associated with increased susceptibility and
30:11
Speaker 5: disease severity in human cases. So the government they're preparing
30:17
Speaker 5: the ground for what is being rolled out now, which
30:20
Speaker 5: is effectively the suggestion that humans can indeed get a
30:25
Speaker 5: disease that has apparently been identified in birds and then
30:29
Speaker 5: in mammals, but of course the identification is where this
30:33
Speaker 5: all hangs. Now, the UK Health Security Agency has said
30:38
Speaker 5: what is bird flu and how are we're protecting people
30:40
Speaker 5: against it in the UK, And this is really the
30:43
Speaker 5: nub of it. They say that the concern is that
30:45
Speaker 5: these changes in the virus may at some point allow
30:47
Speaker 5: it to spread readily between people. So they are running
30:51
Speaker 5: a surveillance program in order to improve what they're calling
30:55
Speaker 5: scientific understanding of the threat of alien influenza to humans.
30:59
Speaker 5: They run zoonotic Influenza Surveillance program in humans. Now, what
31:03
Speaker 5: they mean by that is the use of the PCR test,
31:06
Speaker 5: And that's exactly what Mike was just talking about in
31:09
Speaker 5: so far as introducing the Roger Meekock interview and now
31:14
Speaker 5: the PCR test. Rather than taking my word for it,
31:16
Speaker 5: let's listen to Carrie Malis, the inventor of the PCR test,
31:21
Speaker 5: who died in twenty nineteen.
31:25
Speaker 8: Oh And with PCR, if you do it well, you
31:28
Speaker 8: can find almost anything in anybody. It starts making you
31:31
Speaker 8: believe in the sort of Buddhist notion that everything is
31:34
Speaker 8: contained in everything else, right, I mean, because if you
31:37
Speaker 8: can amplify one single molecule up to something that you
31:41
Speaker 8: can really measure, which PCR can do, then there's just
31:45
Speaker 8: very few molecules that you don't have at least one
31:48
Speaker 8: single one of them in your body. Okay, So that
31:50
Speaker 8: could be thought of as a misuse of it just
31:52
Speaker 8: to claim that it's meaningful.
31:57
Speaker 5: So I would say that there's absolutely no doubt that
32:00
Speaker 5: if APHA and the UKHSA set out to find what
32:04
Speaker 5: they're calling bird flu in humans, they will undoubtedly find
32:08
Speaker 5: it with the use of the PC artists. Now that
32:10
Speaker 5: does not suggest that such a thing as bird flu
32:14
Speaker 5: in humans exists, but as Carrie Malice says, you only
32:17
Speaker 5: need to find the specific molecule that you're testing for
32:21
Speaker 5: and that you're going to amplify in order to confirm
32:23
Speaker 5: the bias that you insert into the system. So that's
32:27
Speaker 5: how we look at it at the moment. As I said,
32:30
Speaker 5: the contract for this has gone to CSL Securus, and
32:34
Speaker 5: their share chart is worth looking at, I think at
32:37
Speaker 5: the moment, because of course there's not really any change
32:40
Speaker 5: to it. This is the last year's worth of their
32:43
Speaker 5: stock price, but one might expect that to change depending
32:46
Speaker 5: on how the optics on this situation pan out. Now,
32:51
Speaker 5: in so far as this is looked at by the sensors,
32:57
Speaker 5: the World Counts for Health has just announced that they
32:59
Speaker 5: have been deplatformed by a venue in Stroud, The Lansdowne Hall,
33:05
Speaker 5: have refused to allow them to show Andrew Wakefield's latest film,
33:11
Speaker 5: which is called Protocol seven and if you would like
33:14
Speaker 5: to have a look at that for yourself and see
33:16
Speaker 5: what all the fuss is about, which I can highly recommend.
33:18
Speaker 5: It is Protocol figure seven, Protocol seven dot movie and
33:22
Speaker 5: I will be sharing clip of it in extra and I.
33:25
Speaker 1: Watched that yesterday as well. It is superb. It is
33:28
Speaker 1: absolutely yes.
33:29
Speaker 2: Okay, now let's come back on to more international issues
33:33
Speaker 2: and the Foreign and Conwealth and Development Office. Now they
33:38
Speaker 2: have We've mentioned this before, but they have been publishing
33:41
Speaker 2: up until twenty twenty two, every month they published or
33:46
Speaker 2: at least every month they published a separate spreadsheet of
33:49
Speaker 2: their spending over twenty five thousand pounds. So if we
33:53
Speaker 2: look at this, it's all did on Foreign Comwealth and
33:57
Speaker 2: Development Office departmental spending over twenty five thousand pounds. Make
34:02
Speaker 2: it read that again, all data over twenty five thousand pounds,
34:06
Speaker 2: and you can see there that now as of the
34:10
Speaker 2: first of September, actually sorry, first December, twenty twenty three
34:15
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty four have been added and that is
34:17
Speaker 2: the result of my efforts because I've been as we'll
34:20
Speaker 2: see in a second, pursuing this through the Information Commissioner.
34:26
Speaker 2: But let's have a look at one of the spreadsheets here,
34:30
Speaker 2: and this is the form that it comes just in
34:32
Speaker 2: a standard spreadsheet with a list of dates, a list
34:35
Speaker 2: of what they call vuture numbers, a ligne amount in
34:38
Speaker 2: terms of the amount of money that they've spent, the
34:40
Speaker 2: supplier that they spent it with, and the account name.
34:43
Speaker 2: And if we just zoom in on that on a
34:45
Speaker 2: couple of lines we see their Art Group DMCC. We
34:49
Speaker 2: see article nineteen. Article nineteen is a very interesting organization.
34:54
Speaker 2: We'll mention it again the second. So if we just
34:56
Speaker 2: look at Art Group for example, here we can see
34:58
Speaker 2: that they have received over the years thirty one million
35:02
Speaker 2: pounds from the Foreign Come, Wealth and Development Office.
35:04
Speaker 1: And of course we're not allowed to know what.
35:06
Speaker 2: That money was specifically used for because as you can see,
35:09
Speaker 2: the account code that that goes against is something called
35:12
Speaker 2: program Spend and brackets Oracle Projects Control account and so
35:17
Speaker 2: of course that's an Oracle database, but it's just listed
35:20
Speaker 2: as programs spend and you can not find out specifically
35:24
Speaker 2: which program or which project this any particular tranche of
35:28
Speaker 2: money went towards. If we look at article nineteen and
35:32
Speaker 2: we've got to remember that this organization n NGO and
35:35
Speaker 2: International NGO, one of these or organizations that may be
35:39
Speaker 2: Russia and other countries would consider to be an organization
35:42
Speaker 2: of foreign influence, because not only does it get money
35:44
Speaker 2: from the Foreign Come Wealth Development Office, it gets money
35:47
Speaker 2: from the Bill Gates Foundation, it gets money from the
35:49
Speaker 2: Open Society, It's she gets money from the Hewlett Foundation,
35:52
Speaker 2: and a whole bunch of these Ford Foundations, a whole
35:54
Speaker 2: bunch of these other types of foundations.
35:58
Speaker 1: So, as I say, I've been pursuing this.
36:00
Speaker 2: For quite some time, because in twenty twenty two, the
36:03
Speaker 2: Foreign Office just decided to stop publishing this data, and
36:08
Speaker 2: I put in a freedom information request, which of course
36:12
Speaker 2: was refused. The request for an internal review was refused,
36:18
Speaker 2: and it was refused on this basis. So it said,
36:21
Speaker 2: I'm writing the confirm we've now I completed the internal
36:24
Speaker 2: review and we're upholding the original response to the freedmom
36:27
Speaker 2: of information request. The information you've requested an exempt from
36:30
Speaker 2: disclosure under section twenty two the Foyer as the information
36:35
Speaker 2: is intended for future publication, and you'll notice the inappropriate
36:38
Speaker 2: use of full stops and capital letters there and so
36:41
Speaker 2: you've got to question the capability of English of the
36:46
Speaker 2: person that was writing this. But they say that Section
36:49
Speaker 2: twenty two does not require that the authority give a
36:52
Speaker 2: specific date for the publication of the information request. And
36:55
Speaker 2: now the truth here is that it doesn't do that.
36:58
Speaker 2: But the Information Commissioner absolutely clear that organizations like this
37:04
Speaker 2: cannot use.
37:04
Speaker 1: Section twenty two.
37:05
Speaker 2: Is that get out of GEO free card where they
37:07
Speaker 2: basically say, well, this is scheduled for future publication. We
37:10
Speaker 2: won't tell you when it's going to be published in
37:12
Speaker 2: the future, so we're not going to give you the
37:14
Speaker 2: data and it might not be published for fifty years.
37:17
Speaker 2: I mean, they simply have been That's what the Foreign
37:20
Speaker 2: Office has been trying to do in this case. So anyway,
37:22
Speaker 2: we set up a website fcdo spending dot UK colum
37:26
Speaker 2: dot org. We've talked about it before to try to
37:29
Speaker 2: highlight or to put this data in a more accessible
37:32
Speaker 2: form for people. And one of the things on that
37:35
Speaker 2: website is we show a graph, a bargraph showing the
37:37
Speaker 2: monthly spending of the Foreign Office. And as you can
37:41
Speaker 2: see if we look here at this is going back
37:44
Speaker 2: to April twenty sixteen. At that time it was about
37:48
Speaker 2: two hundred million pounds spent that particular month, and as
37:51
Speaker 2: you go across the As you go across this graph,
37:54
Speaker 2: you can see it ranges from two hundred from let's
37:56
Speaker 2: say one hundred million pounds up to eight hundred million
37:58
Speaker 2: pounds or nine hundred million in a month spent. But
38:02
Speaker 2: then we get to July twenty twenty two, which is
38:05
Speaker 2: the first of the new spreadsheets that have been released
38:08
Speaker 2: following the intervention of the Information Commissioner at my request,
38:12
Speaker 2: and you can see that, in fact, there's almost nothing
38:14
Speaker 2: in it, and so well, what's going on. Well, let's
38:18
Speaker 2: look at the July twenty twenty two to one and
38:21
Speaker 2: we find that instead of it being full of spending
38:25
Speaker 2: over twenty five thousand pounds, it's full of spending of
38:28
Speaker 2: amounts like two pounds fifty or three pounds or three
38:32
Speaker 2: pounds sixty. In this case, this particular screenshot I'm showing
38:38
Speaker 2: is money all going to to UK Limited, so I
38:41
Speaker 2: guess for mobile phone bills. So they what they have
38:44
Speaker 2: done is because the Information Commissioner was attempting to force
38:48
Speaker 2: them to release this information, they have released information, but
38:52
Speaker 2: not the information that they It is certainly not all
38:55
Speaker 2: the spending above twenty five thousand pounds, so they're lying
38:57
Speaker 2: about that and it's not even over it's not even
39:00
Speaker 2: any spending over twenty five thousand. There are some line
39:03
Speaker 2: items that are over twenty five thousand pounds, but it's
39:05
Speaker 2: clearly this is an obfiscatory effort to stop us getting
39:10
Speaker 2: access to this data.
39:12
Speaker 1: And I will we'll talk a little bit more about.
39:14
Speaker 2: That in a second, but I just wanted to run through,
39:16
Speaker 2: very briefly as sort of almost the timeline of free
39:20
Speaker 2: information requests that I've made to the Foreign Office over
39:23
Speaker 2: the years. So beginning in twenty seventeen here quarterly White
39:26
Speaker 2: Helmets financial statements. Vaness will be very interested in this one,
39:30
Speaker 2: of course, that was refused. And then in twenty eighteen
39:33
Speaker 2: review of funding for the White Helmets that was refused.
39:37
Speaker 2: Then I wanted to find out about Andy Price and
39:39
Speaker 2: his kind of disinformation and mediate development team that was refused.
39:43
Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, I wanted to find out about Russian
39:45
Speaker 2: troll factories. In twenty twenty two, that was refused. I
39:48
Speaker 2: wanted to find out more about Russian troll factories in
39:51
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three that was refused. I wanted to find
39:54
Speaker 2: out about funding for OCCRP that well, that has never
39:59
Speaker 2: been answered. That's long overdue expenditure. And so we're now
40:02
Speaker 2: into the Foreign Office expenditure and this is beginning in
40:05
Speaker 2: August twenty twenty three, refused more about Foreign Office spending,
40:10
Speaker 2: in March twenty twenty four, refused more about Foreign Office spending,
40:14
Speaker 2: in March twenty twenty four, refused, August twenty twenty four, refused,
40:19
Speaker 2: and so on. So clearly there is, you know, refusal
40:23
Speaker 2: on the part of the Foreign Office with respect to
40:26
Speaker 2: any freedom information requests. There are others as well that
40:29
Speaker 2: I put in, and I would ask whether I have
40:31
Speaker 2: been blacklisted in particular, or whether maybe the questions I'm
40:35
Speaker 2: asking are too hard. Vanessa, I don't know what you've
40:37
Speaker 2: got any thoughts on this, but what they've clearly decided
40:40
Speaker 2: to do is to release information in order to try
40:42
Speaker 2: to deflect the Information Commissioner. But it's basically bogus.
40:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and you know there's absolutely no transparency about
40:52
Speaker 3: the spending by the British government on what is effectively
40:56
Speaker 3: a foreign policy of igniting walls globally, and that's clearly what.
41:03
Speaker 2: They're trying to hie it is indeed, and I cannot
41:07
Speaker 2: separate the fact that this happened within a couple of
41:11
Speaker 2: months at the beginning of the Ukraine War. I believe
41:14
Speaker 2: that the reason they're officscating this, the reason that they
41:17
Speaker 2: do not want to tell us this information, is because
41:19
Speaker 2: they do not want us to know how much money
41:22
Speaker 2: is being spent through the Foreign Office on that conflict.
41:25
Speaker 2: But we will keep you posted as this goes. Do
41:29
Speaker 2: have a look at fcdo spending dot UK column dot org.
41:33
Speaker 2: I would encourage everybody to be putting pressure on everybody, media,
41:39
Speaker 2: civil servants, anybody you know in government to get.
41:43
Speaker 1: This information released.
41:44
Speaker 2: We need to know what people can't complain about twenty
41:48
Speaker 2: billion pint black holes if we and the fact that
41:52
Speaker 2: we're saying government spending cut back on benefits and so on,
41:55
Speaker 2: if we're not prepared to stand up and say, well,
41:57
Speaker 2: what is the money actually being spent on?
42:00
Speaker 5: I think specifically not just how much, but also where
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Speaker 5: it's gone and what that will tell us about what
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Speaker 5: the government knew and what the government were deciding Back
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Speaker 5: in early twenty twenty two.
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Speaker 2: Vanessa, let's come back on the Syria and who's giving support.
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Speaker 3: There are many countries obviously coming to the aid of Syria.
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Speaker 3: But I, first of all just wanted to show a
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Speaker 3: reduced video footage of myself driving into the center of
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Speaker 3: I wasn't driving, but being driven.
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Speaker 4: Into the center of Damascus.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned the traffic rules or the fact that there
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Speaker 3: are none of mine, but just to demonstrate that Damascus
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Speaker 3: was peaceful and carom. The day after that, let's say,
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Speaker 3: the terrorist affiliated social media accounts were pushing out the
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Speaker 3: idea that there had been clashes between two different army brigades,
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Speaker 3: that there was a coup ongoing inside Damasca, and that
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Speaker 3: the I think even in Israeli media, they were putting
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Speaker 3: out the line that Syrian in inverted Corima's rebels were
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Speaker 3: storming the presidential palace, et cetera. So I just basically
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Speaker 3: took this video so I drove into to show people
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Speaker 3: that no, everything is as normal in Damascus.
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Speaker 2: I just wanted to make a couple of comments serving
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Speaker 2: as first of all, it's a beautiful city. Second of all,
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Speaker 2: the roads have no potholes.
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Speaker 3: No no, And that's despite when was it completely liberated
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Speaker 3: and the he's twenty eighteen, so that's despite six years
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Speaker 3: of mortars and missiles and rockets being flung and logged
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Speaker 3: at Damascus City Center by the terrorist groups back by
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Speaker 3: the UK and US alliance.
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Speaker 4: I just wanted to put this up because clearly what is.
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Speaker 3: Going on is collaboration between ADUAN and Natan Yahoo.
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Speaker 4: As I pointed out from on the ground.
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Speaker 3: Information, the terrorists are achieving what Israel wanted to achieve
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Speaker 3: inside Syria.
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Speaker 4: And I'll mention that again in a minute.
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Speaker 3: First of all, the ambassador al the Haak talking about
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Speaker 3: the terrorist attack on northern Syria is carried out with
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Speaker 3: a green light and a joint Turkish Israeli operations order.
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Speaker 3: The full speech will be available in the show notes.
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Speaker 4: But then this is what I'm talking about.
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Speaker 3: Of course, there's a history of Israel supporting the terrorist
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Speaker 3: armed groups in Syria with weapons, with funding, with medical treatment,
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Speaker 3: with covering artillery fire in certain situations, particularly in the south.
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Speaker 3: This is an article in the Cradle extremist clashing with
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Speaker 3: the Syrian army ready for peace with Israel, as said
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Speaker 3: by an ex Israeli intelligence official.
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Speaker 4: So let's say see what that actually means.
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Speaker 3: So this is an ex military intelligent Lieutenant Mordechai Kedar
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Speaker 3: stated in an interview with one of the Israeli media
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Speaker 3: art that Israel is on the side of the so
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Speaker 3: called rebels in Syria, explaining that the Syrian opposition fights
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Speaker 3: against a sad Iran and Hazbolara, aligning with Israel's interests.
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Speaker 3: He noted they will continue to support them if they
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Speaker 3: are well behaved. He also claimed that leaders of the
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Speaker 3: Syrian opposition factions have conveyed to Tel Aviv that they
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Speaker 3: are planning to open an Israeli embassy and Damascus, and
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Speaker 3: favorite he's in constant contact with the leaders of the
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Speaker 3: Syrian factions and their current impression is that they do
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Speaker 3: not consider Israel an enemy.
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Speaker 4: And he added that the armed.
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Speaker 3: Factions meant from Israel and they are ready for a
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Speaker 3: peace agreement with Israel after taking control of Syria and Lebanon.
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Speaker 3: So I don't think it can be much clearer than that.
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Speaker 3: And he's not some nutcase, you know, platforming this information
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Speaker 3: on the media. Is provided this information to the leadership
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Speaker 3: in Israel. China come out with some very strong language
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Speaker 3: actually for them, vou support for Syria. Beijing is willing
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Speaker 3: to aid Damascus to prevent the situation from deteriorating.
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Speaker 4: This is in RT. So what did the Foreign minister
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Speaker 4: actually say in his statement.
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Speaker 3: China is deeply concerned about developments in Syria, where Jahades
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Speaker 3: militants launched a surprise offensive last week. Foreign Ministry spokesman
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Speaker 3: Lin Jan said on Monday, as Damascus's friend, Beijing is
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Speaker 3: prepared to take steps to prevent a further deterioration of
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Speaker 3: the situation. We remain to it remains to be seen
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Speaker 3: what those steps will be. The Iranian Foreign minister, President
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Speaker 3: has said visited Moscow last Friday for about twenty four hours,
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Speaker 3: and shortly after the Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas actually came
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Speaker 3: to Damascu. Iran is ready to consider sending troops to Syria. Basically,
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Speaker 3: they're waiting for the request, the official request from Syria,
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Speaker 3: and this is quite an interesting development.
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Speaker 4: Almost immediately after a Sad's visit to President Putin in Moscow.
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Speaker 3: The former commander of the Russian forces in Syria was
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Speaker 3: basically dismissed at the request of President Asad, Sergey Kessel.
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Speaker 3: He was sent back to Russia and Alexander Jaiko returned.
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Speaker 3: Jaiko was the commander of the Russian forces prior to
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Speaker 3: Kessel coming in, So there is a suggestion there that
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Speaker 3: perhaps school was not going as well as expected with
47:41
Speaker 3: Russia military relations in Syria prior to the attack, and
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Speaker 3: I also mentioned the build up of the Iraqi Popular
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Speaker 3: Mobilization Forces.
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Speaker 4: On the border with Iraq.
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Speaker 3: There has been a lot of talk about them having
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Speaker 3: entered Syria to come to the aid of the Syrian
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Speaker 3: Arab Army front lines, but.
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Speaker 4: As far as I know, it hasn't happened yet.
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Speaker 3: But of course what they are doing is preparing for
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Speaker 3: a spillover of the terrorist groups into Iraqi territory and
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Speaker 3: a potential triggering of the ISIS factions that the US
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Speaker 3: has been training, transporting from Syria and training in Iraq itself.
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Speaker 4: So you know, we're in a Verria, as I said,
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Speaker 4: precarious situation.
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Speaker 3: Just while we were on air, I received information that
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Speaker 3: some of the defense lines in Hama have actually fallen
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Speaker 3: and that the Syrian Army has been forced to withdraw
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Speaker 3: having made gains yesterday.
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Speaker 4: So I think the message is not to panic. This
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Speaker 4: is a war.
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Speaker 3: There is going to be loss and victory for some time,
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Speaker 3: and this is going to be an extremely long war.
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Speaker 4: But Syria does have the sport.
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Speaker 3: I mean also spoken to Algeria Venezuela. Russia is speaking
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Speaker 3: very strongly on behalf of Syria in the UN Security Council.
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Speaker 3: So it's as I said, it's going to be an
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Speaker 3: extremely long war.
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Speaker 2: Vanessa, I've just a couple of questions. The first is
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Speaker 2: the high experience star of the current Syrian military. So
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Speaker 2: these new blood that hasn't didn't experience the war school.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's a mixture of elements.
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Speaker 3: First of all, there were a number of Syrian Arab
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Speaker 3: Army brigades and soldiers.
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Speaker 4: Who were demobilized because.
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Speaker 3: Since twenty twenty there has been relative peace in side Syria,
49:44
Speaker 3: and now of course they've been remobilized, so there's a
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Speaker 3: degree of fatigue.
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Speaker 4: The Syrian army.
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Speaker 3: Has been fighting for fourteen years now pretty much NonStop.
49:54
Speaker 3: There are of course new recruits and conscripts, and that
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Speaker 3: I think was one of the problems in a LEPOW.
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Speaker 3: I think one of the parts in the line of
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Speaker 3: defense cave there also, and it could easily have been
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Speaker 3: rookie soldiers that weren't prepared for that sheer number of
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Speaker 3: terrorists involved in the onslought from the north and the northwest.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, that does that is an element to take
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Speaker 3: into consideration.
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Speaker 2: And then the final thing is, you know, why on
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Speaker 2: Earth was EdLib not just simply flattened. Why were they
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Speaker 2: given the opportunity to even get organized like this?
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Speaker 4: Very good question.
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Speaker 3: That's completely down to the Ceasfar agreement broken by Russia
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Speaker 3: and Turkey back in twenty twenty that basically prevented any
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Speaker 3: further military campaign to fully liberate all of EdLib territory. Sadly,
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Speaker 3: Russia trusted Turkey, and Turkey has now portrayed russ now,
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Speaker 3: of course that it remains to be seen to what
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Speaker 3: degree Russia now reinforces its positions in Syria and to
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Speaker 3: what degree suffers the consequences of his actions.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, thank you for that. For NASA, we're going
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Speaker 2: to stick with the topic. But we're going to come
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Speaker 2: back to the UK and John Healey, our sacary State
51:21
Speaker 2: for War has relaunched or newly launched the new Defense
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Speaker 2: Industrial strategy.
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Speaker 1: Let's just have a lesson here.
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Speaker 9: Defense should, can, and must be an engine for jobs
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Speaker 9: and growth in Britain in the future. That's why we'll
51:42
Speaker 9: develop our new industrial strategy for defense. We'll develop it
51:46
Speaker 9: with industry, We'll develop it with the innovators. And I
51:48
Speaker 9: want to develop it also with investors, and my message
51:52
Speaker 9: is this, invest in defense and send a strong signal
51:57
Speaker 9: to Putin and other adverts series that would do as harm.
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Speaker 9: With a stronger UK defense sector, we can make Britain
52:07
Speaker 9: more secure at home and stronger abroad.
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Speaker 2: So, of course, the first Defense Industrial Strategy was released
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Speaker 2: by the previous government a couple of years ago twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty one. The current regime has decided to issue a
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Speaker 2: statement of intent on what they're going to do. But
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Speaker 2: the thing that strikes me here, Charles, is that, of course,
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Speaker 2: if you are trying to rebuild your economy based on
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Speaker 2: weapons of war, then lots of jobs become reliant on war,
52:39
Speaker 2: and therefore there becomes absolute support for that war.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely does yeah, I mean, and that's sort of how
52:46
Speaker 5: the real turns. And I think this will be great
52:48
Speaker 5: relation to what the FCDA have actually been spending their
52:51
Speaker 5: money on, because it's all very much part and parcel
52:53
Speaker 5: of it.
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Speaker 2: So, you know, I think we've got a question what
52:56
Speaker 2: kind of jobs we're applying for, And so I realized
52:59
Speaker 2: that people are are struggling financially, of course, but you know,
53:03
Speaker 2: we get taking government jobs, being reliant on government, taking
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Speaker 2: defense jobs, being reliant on warfare for your livelihood is
53:11
Speaker 2: perhaps not the best way to go about living. But anyway,
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Speaker 2: that's not my decision in many cases. Now, let's bring
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Speaker 2: ourselves on to another issue of war, and that is
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Speaker 2: sexual violence in war. And this has been something that
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Speaker 2: Barbara Woodward has been arguing about in the UN Security
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Speaker 2: Council for many, many years.
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Speaker 1: This is going back a couple of years. She had
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Speaker 1: to say this.
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Speaker 2: She had this to say, President, Conflict related sexual violence
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Speaker 2: is not an inevitable consequence of war. The UK remains
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Speaker 2: committed to tackling conflict related sexual violence. I would absolutely
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Speaker 2: disagree with this woman with this statement. Conflict related sexual
53:50
Speaker 2: violence has been an inevitable consequence of war since there
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Speaker 2: ever was a war. It has been a feature of
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Speaker 2: warfare for thousands of years and so any but he's
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Speaker 2: suggesting that sexual violence can be removed from the battlefield
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Speaker 2: or the remains of the battlefield is off their heads.
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Speaker 2: You cannot say to people that have gone to fight
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Speaker 2: in a warfare, yet kill those people. Do that thing,
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Speaker 2: but don't do this thing over here. It isn't going
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Speaker 2: to happen. So anyway, she's been talking about in the
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Speaker 2: Security Council about this again, and this time she's announced
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Speaker 2: their newly appointed Prime Minister Special Represented Special Representative on
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Speaker 2: Preventing Sexual Violence and Conflict, Lord Collins, and he will
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Speaker 2: drive international action to tackle this issue. Well will he,
54:38
Speaker 2: because let's just have a look at a little bit
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Speaker 2: of video here. This is from NATO in twenty eighteen,
54:43
Speaker 2: so we're going back six years. Twenty eighteen was released
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Speaker 2: and nothing has changed. So let's just have a look
54:50
Speaker 2: at this.
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Speaker 10: Our role of defense and security means that we have
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Speaker 10: to address those areas which could be the root causes
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Speaker 10: of ongoing conflict. If you don't address head on the
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Speaker 10: violations against populations and be it broader violations are that
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Speaker 10: of sexual violence, it does add to the ongoing continual conflict.
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Speaker 11: The conflict are no more states together states. It's civilio centric.
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Speaker 11: We need to identify who are the victims and who
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Speaker 11: are the perpetrators if we want to establish this process
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Speaker 11: or even to be more effective in the delivery of
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Speaker 11: our mission.
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Speaker 2: So, Vanessa, I don't know if you've got any thoughts
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Speaker 2: and now, but correct me if I'm wrong. The only
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Speaker 2: way to stop sexual violence as a weapon of war
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Speaker 2: is to stop the wars, and it seems to me
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Speaker 2: that that should be pretty obvious to everybody.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I would agree to an extent, but I would
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Speaker 3: also say the worst should stop arming, funding, and let's say,
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Speaker 3: igniting wars and being on the side of factions, extremist factions,
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Speaker 3: whether it's Nazis in Ukraine, the Zionus in Israel, the
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Speaker 3: terrorist groups here in Syria and elsewhere in the world
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Speaker 3: I mean in Sahel and Swan that are way more
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Speaker 3: likely in the situation of war to carry out the
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Speaker 3: crimes that we're talking.
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Speaker 2: About, and we should we should not ask underestimate that
56:47
Speaker 2: these are crimes but just another one of many war
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Speaker 2: crimes that are happening at the moment, and I would
56:53
Speaker 2: like to see a lot more pushback against us. But
56:57
Speaker 2: let's come back to the UK Charles and the gender
57:03
Speaker 2: issues that we were talking about last week.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, yes, last week I was reporting on the ongoing
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Speaker 5: or current event in the Supreme Court which was for
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Speaker 5: women in Scotland versus the Scottish Ministers, which was wrapped
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Speaker 5: up on that day, and without going into enormous amount
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Speaker 5: of detail, it's reported as being essentially a qualified success.
57:25
Speaker 5: Nick Wallace, who I mentioned was covering it sort of
57:28
Speaker 5: minute by minute. Put this on x or Twitter. He said,
57:33
Speaker 5: it used to be you could lose your job, livelihood,
57:35
Speaker 5: and friends by disagreeing with the slogan trans women are women.
57:40
Speaker 5: Yesterday the Supreme Court the Scottish government, as part of
57:43
Speaker 5: its relentless ongoing attempts to redefine the word woman, declared
57:48
Speaker 5: that the only people who are entitled to be called
57:51
Speaker 5: women are biological women and men with gender recognition certificates. Now,
57:58
Speaker 5: I think at that point, reading that out makes one
58:02
Speaker 5: question an awful lot of things about the society we
58:04
Speaker 5: live in. I think, Vanessa, my question to you is,
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Speaker 5: to what extent does the population in Syria even consider
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Speaker 5: this narrative?
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Speaker 4: Zero? Absolutely, it's not even a thing here. I mean
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Speaker 4: Syria is not a good case because obviously we're facing
58:27
Speaker 4: a major war here.
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Speaker 3: But I mean even in the unsettled peace times.
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Speaker 4: No, I mean, this isn't this isn't an issue. It's
58:35
Speaker 4: not even not even really talked about.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think I think it really does. You know,
58:41
Speaker 5: here's a question that's worth asking about all the parts
58:43
Speaker 5: of the world, because this is entirely fabricated narrative. Reinforced,
58:47
Speaker 5: of course, because it points people in a particular direction.
58:51
Speaker 5: It Swy's division and all the other things that distract
58:54
Speaker 5: people and frustrate them in their efforts to live the
58:56
Speaker 5: lives they want to live. Now, in terms of the
59:00
Speaker 5: specifics of the Gender Recognition Certificate itself, we look to
59:04
Speaker 5: the Rainbow Project just to remind ourselves for as to
59:09
Speaker 5: what it is that is sort of being done here
59:13
Speaker 5: and how Now. I appreciate the text is a bit small,
59:16
Speaker 5: but the reason I've drawn it up from the original
59:19
Speaker 5: document is that, either by accident or design, a crystical
59:22
Speaker 5: pass bit appears to being crossed out. But they say
59:24
Speaker 5: when you apply for a Gender Recognition Certificate currently you
59:27
Speaker 5: need to provide a medical report written by a doctor
59:30
Speaker 5: or psychologist specializing in gender dysphoria. Doctors must be registered
59:36
Speaker 5: with the General Medical Council, and if you can't see
59:38
Speaker 5: the screen, then oddly enough that it's been crossed out
59:41
Speaker 5: and have a license to practice. And then they go
59:43
Speaker 5: on to qualify that by saying if your medical report
59:45
Speaker 5: was written before November two thousand and nine, they only
59:48
Speaker 5: need to be registered with the General Medical Council and
59:52
Speaker 5: so therefore they don't have to have a license to practice,
59:54
Speaker 5: and that might just be because they may have retired,
59:58
Speaker 5: but nonetheless there are many loopholes with all of this.
1:00:02
Speaker 5: And then, just to clarify that what they call the
1:00:05
Speaker 5: standard route you're in order to do this. You're over eighteen,
1:00:08
Speaker 5: you've been diagnosed with what is called gender dysphoria. Now
1:00:15
Speaker 5: there's not enough time to go into the specific detail
1:00:18
Speaker 5: as to how that comes about in terms of diagnosis,
1:00:21
Speaker 5: but they describe it briefly as discomfort with your birth gender.
1:00:24
Speaker 5: You've lived in your required gender for at least two years,
1:00:27
Speaker 5: and rather perplexingly, bearing in mind the outcome of getting
1:00:31
Speaker 5: a certificate, you intend to live in your required gender
1:00:34
Speaker 5: for the rest of your life. So essentially you get
1:00:37
Speaker 5: one hit. And what exactly the penalty would be for
1:00:40
Speaker 5: deciding that you don't want to do this is not
1:00:43
Speaker 5: very clear, at least by the Rainbow Projects, but perhaps
1:00:46
Speaker 5: somebody does have an answer about that. And as far
1:00:49
Speaker 5: as UK column content goes, I can recommend the interview
1:00:53
Speaker 5: with Susan Smith, who's been involved with for Women in
1:00:55
Speaker 5: Scotland for considerable period of time to great effect, under
1:00:58
Speaker 5: the heading women Won't Wished, and that was from just
1:01:02
Speaker 5: every year ago.
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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you Charles and thank you Vanessa. We've got
1:01:07
Speaker 2: to leave it there for today. Thanks to everybody that's watched.
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