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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane On Demand. Listen live
- 0:05Speaker 1: every weekday morning from 7 to 10 on Altitude Sports
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- 0:22Speaker 2: So if you do lose tonight, you put yourself down
- 0:24Speaker 2: a game against the team that you're going to be
- 0:26Speaker 2: battling for for the top spot inside the division.
- 0:29Speaker 3: That being said, even if they.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Should lose the football game, talking about the Broncos, I'm
- 0:34Speaker 2: not going to freak at all. Now, how they lose
- 0:39Speaker 2: plays a big part in that. Again, if they get
- 0:41Speaker 2: blasted 34-10, I'm going to be like, what the heck
- 0:45Speaker 2: did I just watch? What the heck just happened? I
- 0:48Speaker 2: will be saying that. Do you feel in a way,
- 0:49Speaker 2: Davis Webb, first game, calm play, maybe let him down
- 0:53Speaker 2: a little bit with the way the offense executed?
- 0:56Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely.
- 0:57Speaker 5: I think the players did not make it easy on
- 0:59Speaker 5: him today. Pretty pitiful, actually, but he was, you know, true.
- 1:05Speaker 5: to me in the headset he treated it like um
- 1:08Speaker 5: you know he was he was a pro with it
- 1:10Speaker 5: he's like hey next play here we go you got
- 1:12Speaker 5: this um he shot it with conviction i thought um
- 1:16Speaker 5: he really i mean we called exactly what we prepared
- 1:18Speaker 5: for and what we wanted to get to and um
- 1:21Speaker 5: we just didn't execute and then we were behind and
- 1:25Speaker 5: just literally i don't think we did um a whole
- 1:29Speaker 5: lot of good consistently enough to win the game at all.
- 1:32Speaker 6: Just as a head coach always, whether you're calling the
- 1:34Speaker 6: plays or you're not, regardless of who's calling the plays,
- 1:38Speaker 6: when you have a game like that and you're the
- 1:41Speaker 6: head coach, it's frustrating, it's disappointing. I don't know that
- 1:45Speaker 6: the feeling is any different whether you're calling them or.
- 1:48Speaker 4: Not, honestly. Basics of football. That's what yesterday was. It
- 1:55Speaker 4: was tackling. Don't commit penalties. Especially don't commit penalties when
- 2:01Speaker 4: it's third and short.
- 2:03Speaker 3: Drive killing penalties.
- 2:06Speaker 4: When you get a ball that starts at the four-yard line,
- 2:09Speaker 4: punch it in the end zone. Throw and catch. Third
- 2:15Speaker 4: and seven. Jalen Waddell, brand new toy. Catch the ball
- 2:18Speaker 4: and get a first down. Commit to the run. Like,
- 2:22Speaker 4: all of this was basic football stuff, and it's part
- 2:26Speaker 4: of the reason why, look, The Broncos come out of
- 2:29Speaker 4: that game in almost every aspect looking terrible. If you
- 2:33Speaker 4: want to point to guys who played well last night,
- 2:35Speaker 4: good luck. It was kind of R.J.
- 2:37Speaker 3: Harvey.
- 2:38Speaker 4: It was kind of Evan Ingram. But the big thing
- 2:42Speaker 4: here is, I don't know if you guys agree with
- 2:45Speaker 4: this or not, if the Broncos just played a clean game, clean,
- 2:50Speaker 4: not as many missed tackles, cut down on the penalties,
- 2:56Speaker 4: don't turn the ball over. I think the win, I
- 2:59Speaker 4: think it would have been enough. Mahomes had nothing yesterday.
- 3:02Speaker 4: He didn't complete a pass over 10 yards. Not a
- 3:07Speaker 4: single one. In the air. He was 2 of 12
- 3:10Speaker 4: to start the game. If you played clean, I think
- 3:14Speaker 4: you would have been fine, but you played so terribly undisciplined,
- 3:19Speaker 4: you didn't have a shot.
- 3:20Speaker 7: Can I make this case? And you guys may disagree.
- 3:23Speaker 7: If you're going to lose, lose big.
- 3:25Speaker 3: I've always said that.
- 3:27Speaker 7: I've always said that. If you're going to lose like this,
- 3:30Speaker 7: get wiped out to where you have to reset everything
- 3:34Speaker 7: to where maybe your pride takes a hit and their
- 3:37Speaker 7: pride took a hit. Let's say they lose 31-30 last night.
- 3:41Speaker 7: Let's say what unfolds is what we discussed yesterday on
- 3:43Speaker 7: the show. Holmes got the ball back with 30 seconds, whatever,
- 3:47Speaker 7: and they got a game-winning field goal. They lose 31-30.
- 3:49Speaker 7: Then we'd be nitpicking whatever took place in the final seconds, right?
- 3:54Speaker 7: Right now, there is no nitpicking.
- 3:56Speaker 3: There's just picking.
- 3:57Speaker 7: Yeah. There's no knits to pick. The entire program looked
- 4:02Speaker 7: like crap. 176 yards of total offense for the Denver Broncos.
- 4:06Speaker 7: You know what that represents? The lowest output since Sean
- 4:10Speaker 7: Payton arrived as head coach.
- 4:13Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:15Speaker 7: I repeat. The lowest output since he arrived as head coach.
- 4:20Speaker 7: And right there on Monday Night Football for all to see.
- 4:22Speaker 3: 176 yards.
- 4:23Speaker 7: Missed tackles. The most missed tackles by a pro football
- 4:28Speaker 7: team in what? 10 years?
- 4:30Speaker 4: I've seen since 2018. At least 2018.
- 4:33Speaker 7: Kenneth Walker last night forced 15 missed tackles, which is
- 4:38Speaker 7: more than the Chiefs lead running back did all of
- 4:42Speaker 7: last season.
- 4:46Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait. Kareem Hunt wasn't breaking tackles?
- 4:50Speaker 4: That was kind of funny.
- 4:52Speaker 2: Geez.
- 4:53Speaker 7: Vic, you just watched the play.
- 4:54Speaker 4: I pointed it out to you. On fourth and one,
- 4:57Speaker 4: I think it was their second fourth down that they
- 5:01Speaker 4: went for, the one that resulted in the 60-yard touchdown
- 5:04Speaker 4: from Kenneth Walker. So the Broncos are all stacked at
- 5:07Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage. There's a missed tackle at the
- 5:10Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. But when you're boxing everybody in, if
- 5:14Speaker 4: you miss one tackle and he's past that line, it's
- 5:16Speaker 4: open space, right? He's running down the sideline. And Brandon
- 5:21Speaker 4: Jones has the angle on him. And he makes contact
- 5:25Speaker 4: with him about the 12. Now, remember, Kenneth Walker has
- 5:29Speaker 4: six inches between his feet and the sideline.
- 5:31Speaker 7: He's tiptoeing the sideline.
- 5:34Speaker 4: And Brandon Jones is coming in full speed at an angle.
- 5:38Speaker 4: Literally has his entire body wrapped around Kenneth Walker and
- 5:42Speaker 4: slides off like he's covered in Crisco.
- 5:44Speaker 7: Like a banana peel. Yeah.
- 5:46Speaker 3: And he's falling right off.
- 5:46Speaker 4: And Walker goes in the end zone. And I go,
- 5:48Speaker 4: even something like that. Think about this. That is potentially
- 5:52Speaker 4: the difference between giving up a touchdown and giving up
- 5:55Speaker 4: a field goal. Like, maybe you hold them. They would
- 5:58Speaker 4: have been 10 yards away from the end zone. Maybe
- 6:00Speaker 4: you do hold to a field goal. Hell, they did
- 6:02Speaker 4: it to you when you started at the four-yard line.
- 6:04Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's... Did you just see it? Yeah,
- 6:06Speaker 3: it's like.
- 6:07Speaker 2: Well, I saw it obviously live when it happened. But
- 6:10Speaker 2: if you see it again, you're like, how did that happen?
- 6:12Speaker 2: How does he stay in balance? First of all, how
- 6:14Speaker 2: does he stay in balance? It's like he had Crisco
- 6:17Speaker 2: all over him.
- 6:18Speaker 7: Exactly. Does he have the strength of 12 men?
- 6:20Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that.
- 6:23Speaker 7: The guys are bouncing off of him and unable to
- 6:26Speaker 7: bring him down. His patience he displayed last night. I mean,
- 6:29Speaker 7: he had a little Le'Veon Bell in him. And then
- 6:32Speaker 7: the speed. He looked like the best running back I've
- 6:35Speaker 7: ever seen.
- 6:37Speaker 4: Hey, look, we've said this before. People are giving us
- 6:40Speaker 4: grief for this. I don't know what else to tell you.
- 6:44Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker is a good running back. Very good running back.
- 6:50Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker also averages 4.3 yards per carry in his career.
- 6:53Speaker 4: It was seven and a half last night. Like last
- 6:56Speaker 4: night was something different. And I think a lot of
- 6:58Speaker 4: it was yes. Kenneth Walker being great. It was also
- 7:01Speaker 4: the Broncos doing it to themselves and you can bring
- 7:04Speaker 4: up Superbowl MVP and that's fine. All I'm telling you is,
- 7:08Speaker 4: would you rather have Kenneth Walker or Bichon or Kenneth
- 7:11Speaker 4: Walker or Gibbs or Kenneth Walker or Derek Henry or Taylor,
- 7:15Speaker 4: but Saquon, whoever.
- 7:17Speaker 7: Let's flip this around a little bit.
- 7:19Speaker 2: Oveke, real quick though, because again, your post-game analysis, all
- 7:24Speaker 2: of you last night, I thought was very good on,
- 7:26Speaker 2: what's it called?
- 7:28Speaker 3: Mile high post-game. Mile high post-game.
- 7:30Speaker 7: You seem to be struggling with the time.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Well, it's, it's, It's just Mile High. It doesn't exactly
- 7:34Speaker 3: flow off the tongue.
- 7:35Speaker 7: It's Mile High.
- 7:36Speaker 4: I think it's called Altitude Sports Radio Post Game on
- 7:39Speaker 4: Altitude Television.
- 7:40Speaker 7: They're not allowed to use the word Broncos.
- 7:42Speaker 4: Right, right, right.
- 7:43Speaker 7: So rather than use the word Broncos.
- 7:44Speaker 3: Mile High Post Game Live. Mile High.
- 7:46Speaker 7: On Altitude Television. Post Game Live. Okay. Carried by Altitude
- 7:50Speaker 7: on Altitude Radio and Altitude Television. Produced by Altitude.
- 7:54Speaker 4: Okay. Could you say Brontos?
- 7:56Speaker 7: If you just did that.
- 7:56Speaker 4: That's a good point. Brontos Post Game Live.
- 7:58Speaker 7: How about Bronx?
- 8:00Speaker 4: Bronx Post Game Live.
- 8:01Speaker 3: Could you do that?
- 8:01Speaker 7: Maybe.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Maybe.
- 8:03Speaker 2: But from the 0-2-1-2, and Mike Sanford brought this up
- 8:06Speaker 2: last night, specifically about Jones, but the 0-2-1-2 says both
- 8:10Speaker 2: safeties look slow or heavy-footed. Coach made the point on
- 8:14Speaker 2: Jones last night, despite having the interception, that.
- 8:19Speaker 3: How did he put it, Brett, Vic, was it he looked,
- 8:24Speaker 3: he played old. He played old. Yeah. You know what
- 8:29Speaker 3: I mean?
- 8:30Speaker 2: And everybody has these games, I think, where they look
- 8:33Speaker 2: slower and older than they really are, and that's not
- 8:35Speaker 2: really them. But that doesn't help. When you're having a
- 8:38Speaker 2: situation like that, it certainly doesn't help.
- 8:41Speaker 7: So let's pretend for a moment that the Broncos learned
- 8:46Speaker 7: how to tackle.
- 8:47Speaker 3: Okay?
- 8:48Speaker 7: Let's just pretend that tackling was part of their formula
- 8:54Speaker 7: because obviously they forgot how to tackle last night. And
- 8:57Speaker 7: let's just say that Kenneth Walker achieves half the yards
- 9:00Speaker 7: he did. Because most of them came after the hit.
- 9:04Speaker 7: And let's just say that the Chiefs score what? Instead
- 9:06Speaker 7: of 31 points, 13 points. Well, guess what? They still
- 9:11Speaker 7: win the game 13-10. And the point I'm getting at here,
- 9:14Speaker 7: I know that the first topic, and it was last
- 9:17Speaker 7: night and it is this morning, is missed tackles. Because
- 9:19Speaker 7: that was the most glaring thing we saw, right?
- 9:22Speaker 3: Glaring.
- 9:23Speaker 7: But I am tired.
- 9:24Speaker 4: In pretty historically past.
- 9:26Speaker 7: Yes, yes.
- 9:27Speaker 3: So that's what drew the headlines.
- 9:28Speaker 7: Missed tackles.
- 9:29Speaker 3: Greased pig.
- 9:30Speaker 7: Missed tackles. I get it. But I just gave you
- 9:33Speaker 7: a scenario. Let's just cut their point total in half.
- 9:36Speaker 7: Their yards in half. Sure.
- 9:38Speaker 4: The Broncos still lose the game.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Yep.
- 9:40Speaker 7: Because their offense is pathetic at times. And it was
- 9:46Speaker 7: pathetic last night. It was trash. Their new toy, Jalen Waddell,
- 9:51Speaker 7: who they thought was going to change everything, one catch,
- 9:54Speaker 7: two yards, one big drop on first down. Their new toy,
- 9:58Speaker 7: Kenneth Walker, was the MVP of the game. That's all
- 10:03Speaker 7: you have to say, really. What is that offense we
- 10:07Speaker 7: witnessed last night? What was that, Moshe? The fewest yards
- 10:11Speaker 7: in Sean Payton's coaching career as a Bronco. It can't be.
- 10:16Speaker 2: Just the new play calling. It's all-encompassing. And again, when
- 10:21Speaker 2: Peyton says at halftime, was he talking to Laura Rutledge?
- 10:24Speaker 3: Yes. When he says, you know, we'd like to run
- 10:28Speaker 3: the ball more, blah, blah, blah. Okay, fine.
- 10:30Speaker 7: Well, what?
- 10:31Speaker 2: I mean, Kansas City, I think you're so right. And
- 10:35Speaker 2: he basically said, I'm sure it went like this. As
- 10:37Speaker 2: I'm watching the game, I'm trying to imagine the meeting
- 10:40Speaker 2: between Reed and Kenneth Walker.
- 10:42Speaker 3: And it's, hey, um. You're going to get the ball
- 10:45Speaker 3: a lot tonight. What did you think was going to happen?
- 10:48Speaker 3: I know, exactly. Hey, Kenneth, glad to have you. Great
- 10:52Speaker 3: that now you're a chief. It's great.
- 10:54Speaker 4: Ready to die?
- 10:55Speaker 3: You're going to carry.
- 10:56Speaker 2: See, this is the pig, and you're going to carry
- 10:59Speaker 2: the pig a lot. I just want to let you know, okay?
- 11:01Speaker 2: And that's exactly what he did. I mean, the first
- 11:02Speaker 2: four plays of the game, it's the Kenneth Walker show.
- 11:05Speaker 2: The whole first drive was the Kenneth Walker show. But
- 11:09Speaker 2: why can't... I mean, and it's frustrating because.
- 11:14Speaker 3: I know that J.K. Dobbins can run the football, but
- 11:16Speaker 3: why aren't you running the football?
- 11:17Speaker 4: Can I present something to you guys and just give
- 11:19Speaker 4: me a reaction to this, okay? Bo Nix last night,
- 11:24Speaker 4: 131 yards passing, one touchdown, one interception, and one fumble lost. Okay?
- 11:32Speaker 4: So one touchdown, two picks, 130 yards passing. Last year,
- 11:37Speaker 4: Bo Nix in week one, 176 yards, one touchdown, two picks.
- 11:44Speaker 4: The year before that, Bo Nix in week one, 138 yards,
- 11:47Speaker 4: no touchdowns, two picks.
- 11:48Speaker 3: That was his first start ever.
- 11:50Speaker 4: Every first week for Bo Nix has been that game.
- 11:55Speaker 7: But this one is worse because he's three years in. Correct.
- 11:58Speaker 4: I'm just saying everything is basically within a very thin.
- 12:01Speaker 7: Margin for error.
- 12:02Speaker 2: Yes.
- 12:03Speaker 7: But I still consider this, Bo Nix, you know, we
- 12:06Speaker 7: talked about this going into the season. Has there ever
- 12:08Speaker 7: been a game that Bo Nix lost? There's other reasons
- 12:11Speaker 7: why the Broncos lost, but has there ever been a
- 12:13Speaker 7: game where he's been the reason they lost? I think
- 12:16Speaker 7: he's a big reason they lost last night. Tackling and offense.
- 12:21Speaker 7: And you can say what you want about play calling.
- 12:23Speaker 7: He was juggling the ball with his feet at times.
- 12:27Speaker 7: Did he look comfortable to you?
- 12:28Speaker 1: No.
- 12:29Speaker 7: That one pass to Ingram, that drive?
- 12:30Speaker 4: That drive he was, yeah.
- 12:33Speaker 2: There were times, though, last year, let's say you didn't
- 12:35Speaker 2: have a good game, not a great game, but they
- 12:39Speaker 2: still found a way to get it done. Brett, this
- 12:41Speaker 2: goes back to, again, what Sean Payton said months and
- 12:45Speaker 2: months ago. This is that, well, maybe you did some
- 12:49Speaker 2: of these things, but you got away with it. And
- 12:51Speaker 2: we're wondering, all these one-score games, and they didn't win
- 12:55Speaker 2: the turnover battle all year long, and they didn't win
- 12:56Speaker 2: the time of possession battle. How are they doing it, right?
- 12:59Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 13:00Speaker 2: Well, this, when you turn the ball over and you
- 13:03Speaker 2: take sacks, this is what it's supposed to look like.
- 13:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 13:07Speaker 2: Not scoring 33 points in the fourth frigging quarter against
- 13:10Speaker 2: the Giants.
- 13:11Speaker 3: You know what's true?
- 13:12Speaker 2: Not having Philadelphia not give the ball to Saquon the
- 13:14Speaker 2: entire second half allowing you to actually come back and
- 13:17Speaker 2: get off your keisters. This is what, this is, when
- 13:20Speaker 2: you have those kinds of games, this is what it
- 13:23Speaker 2: looks like or what it's supposed to look like.
- 13:25Speaker 4: That's a good point, Moshe.
- 13:26Speaker 7: I mean, that is.
- 13:27Speaker 4: Not getting by on the hair, your chinny chin chin.
- 13:30Speaker 4: Minus fourth quarter heroics. That's what a game feels like
- 13:34Speaker 4: when you do this for three quarters because you typically
- 13:37Speaker 4: don't get that opportunity. And you got a bunch last year.
- 13:41Speaker 4: I'd be lying if I were saying this. I'd be
- 13:44Speaker 4: lying if I weren't thinking this last night. Midway through
- 13:48Speaker 4: the third quarter, especially when the Broncos got the pick.
- 13:51Speaker 4: Put it at the four-yard line. Part of me thought
- 13:54Speaker 4: when Brandon Jones is running that ball, returning it, please score,
- 13:57Speaker 4: please score, please score. The other part of me thought, man,
- 14:00Speaker 4: ain't this tailor-made for another Bo Nix comeback? Down 14,
- 14:03Speaker 4: he gets one drive that starts at the four-yard line.
- 14:05Speaker 4: Now you're only down seven. I was thinking it.
- 14:08Speaker 7: Of course you were.
- 14:09Speaker 3: We all were. Yeah.
- 14:10Speaker 7: But here's the deal. I just, you know what I'm
- 14:14Speaker 7: tired of? I'm tired of this. So Kansas City has
- 14:19Speaker 7: been a notorious explosive team, right, with Patrick Mahomes. They
- 14:22Speaker 7: were able to do something last night that everybody and
- 14:25Speaker 7: their mother knew they were going to do. I mean,
- 14:27Speaker 7: if a dumb sports host in a radio show in
- 14:29Speaker 7: Denver could anticipate what Kansas City's offense was going to
- 14:33Speaker 7: look like, we said it all week. They were going
- 14:35Speaker 7: to run the ball.
- 14:36Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 14:36Speaker 7: They were going to run the ball, run, run, and run.
- 14:38Speaker 3: I mean, we said it yesterday morning.
- 14:40Speaker 7: So every week we hear the Broncos say we got
- 14:42Speaker 7: to turn up the run game.
- 14:44Speaker 3: You know what?
- 14:45Speaker 7: I don't believe them anymore. I'm done believing them. The
- 14:49Speaker 7: Broncos are not a running football team. And for whatever reason,
- 14:52Speaker 7: they're not willing to pay the price there. They're not
- 14:55Speaker 7: willing to call the plays there. They're not willing to
- 14:57Speaker 7: To devote the time there? It's not a running football team.
- 15:01Speaker 7: You're not going to get dirty running yards. Not with
- 15:03Speaker 7: this team. You're not going to.
- 15:05Speaker 4: You're going to have a tough time winning. You better
- 15:07Speaker 4: figure it out.
- 15:07Speaker 7: You tell me. They're not a running football team, dude.
- 15:15Speaker 7: Chicago put up how many points?
- 15:16Speaker 5: 59.
- 15:17Speaker 7: How did they do it, Brett?
- 15:19Speaker 4: They had 200-yard rushers, and they had six rushing touchdowns.
- 15:21Speaker 7: Everyone's going to look at Caleb Williams and say he
- 15:23Speaker 7: was the reason. They did it because they could run
- 15:24Speaker 7: the ball.
- 15:25Speaker 3: But they had two different guys rush for over 100 yards.
- 15:26Speaker 3: They did it because they could run the ball.
- 15:28Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes was bad last night, and they put up
- 15:30Speaker 4: 31 points because they ran the football well. That's it.
- 15:33Speaker 7: Denver Broncos are not committed to the run game. They
- 15:36Speaker 7: haven't been for three years.
- 15:37Speaker 3: Also, was it me?
- 15:38Speaker 4: They're not.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Vic, was it me, or was it looking like Travis Kelsey? God,
- 15:44Speaker 2: I was afraid he was going to score there. Thank
- 15:46Speaker 2: God they got him at, what.
- 15:47Speaker 7: The four? I mean, how could.
- 15:49Speaker 3: I mean, that dude's got a piano on his back.
- 15:50Speaker 8: Right.
- 15:52Speaker 7: Moshe, it's third and one. You're down by a tutty.
- 15:57Speaker 7: It's third and one. All you have to do is
- 16:01Speaker 7: gain a yard. It could even be four down territory.
- 16:04Speaker 7: And you're rolling your quarterback out?
- 16:06Speaker 4: I know. No, empty backfield.
- 16:08Speaker 7: On an empty?
- 16:09Speaker 4: Empty backfield.
- 16:10Speaker 3: And you want to, what are we doing? 303-504-0925.
- 16:13Speaker 4: Back after this. Let me ask you guys a question.
- 16:18Speaker 4: Because Vicky brought something up and now I just can't
- 16:20Speaker 4: get it out of my head. The Broncos are not
- 16:24Speaker 4: a running football team. Then why would the Broncos run
- 16:28Speaker 4: the football? Do they do pretty good at it?
- 16:32Speaker 7: They're not a committed running football team.
- 16:34Speaker 4: But that's a different thing.
- 16:36Speaker 3: Last year before JK got hurt, he was pretty good.
- 16:40Speaker 4: No, this is what I'm getting at.
- 16:43Speaker 3: It's a different thing. Damn it!
- 16:45Speaker 4: Are we really having the same discussion that we've been
- 16:46Speaker 4: doing for three years of Sean Payton's offense? I know
- 16:49Speaker 4: it's the first week, but at the end of the
- 16:51Speaker 4: first half in which it was a 7-7 football game
- 16:54Speaker 4: until a minute and 40 seconds left, there's no excuse
- 16:58Speaker 4: not to be running the football then. And the run-pass
- 17:00Speaker 4: ratio was 6-17. 23 plays total. Six of them were runs.
- 17:04Speaker 4: I don't know how many of those, by the way,
- 17:06Speaker 4: were Bo Nix scrambling. Maybe a couple. J.K. Dobbins had
- 17:09Speaker 4: three carries in the first half. When J.K. Dobbins carries
- 17:14Speaker 4: the football.
- 17:14Speaker 7: Wait a minute. So you're featured back. I don't even
- 17:18Speaker 7: know what your featured back is in this offense anymore. J.K. Dobbins,
- 17:22Speaker 7: who is healthy now, had three carries in the first half.
- 17:26Speaker 2: Three.
- 17:27Speaker 7: That's all you need to say.
- 17:28Speaker 4: But here's the thing, Vic.
- 17:31Speaker 3: J.K.
- 17:32Speaker 4: Dobbins, last year on 153 carries, averaged five yards per
- 17:34Speaker 4: carry per which is a pretty good standard in this league.
- 17:42Speaker 4: If you hit five, you're really damn good.
- 17:45Speaker 3: You're doing pretty good.
- 17:46Speaker 7: I'm going to say this again, and I want somebody
- 17:48Speaker 7: to prove me wrong. I want to be wrong here.
- 17:51Speaker 3: I want to be wrong.
- 17:53Speaker 7: The Denver Broncos do not want to pay the price
- 17:56Speaker 7: to be a run team. What is the price?
- 17:58Speaker 4: What do you mean?
- 17:59Speaker 7: The effort, the price. There's got to be failure at times.
- 18:03Speaker 7: There's got to be a one-yard run, a one-yard run,
- 18:05Speaker 7: maybe a three-and-out just running. You have to be willing
- 18:08Speaker 7: to pay the price and do the dirty work. You
- 18:10Speaker 7: have to be willing to run it at practice. Run it,
- 18:13Speaker 7: run it, run it. Are you saying that the line
- 18:14Speaker 7: can't run block?
- 18:15Speaker 3: What are you saying?
- 18:17Speaker 7: I'm making the comment. You tell me what I mean.
- 18:19Speaker 7: That's what I guess I'm saying. The Denver Broncos are
- 18:23Speaker 7: not willing to pay the price to be a running football.
- 18:28Speaker 3: Team.
- 18:29Speaker 4: I don't think there's a lot I can say that
- 18:32Speaker 4: would dispute that. Well, the evidence was right in front
- 18:35Speaker 4: of you. Here's what I push back. When it comes
- 18:36Speaker 4: to the running game, I push back against one thing
- 18:38Speaker 4: and one thing only. When people say they can't.
- 18:42Speaker 3: I don't buy that.
- 18:44Speaker 4: They can. I saw it last year for 10 games
- 18:47Speaker 4: with J.K. Dobbins. I saw it. When you gave him
- 18:49Speaker 4: the football, good things happened. Are there negative yardage plays?
- 18:54Speaker 7: Sure.
- 18:54Speaker 3: Guess what?
- 18:55Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker had like a couple last night. That doesn't
- 18:59Speaker 4: mean you abandon that. But when you say, I'm not
- 19:02Speaker 4: saying you, when anybody says they can't run the football, yes,
- 19:06Speaker 4: they can.
- 19:07Speaker 3: They don't.
- 19:08Speaker 4: And that's a different thing.
- 19:09Speaker 7: You know, it's also a lot of mental stuff. What
- 19:12Speaker 7: crumbles a defense's confidence more, a long run or a
- 19:15Speaker 7: long pass?
- 19:18Speaker 4: Did you notice what happened in the first half? Did
- 19:21Speaker 4: the Denver Broncos look confident when Mahomes dropped back to
- 19:23Speaker 4: pass the football in the first half?
- 19:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 19:26Speaker 4: In really all game?
- 19:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 19:27Speaker 7: He couldn't do it.
- 19:29Speaker 3: Yes. They look confident.
- 19:30Speaker 4: Did they look confident any time Kenneth Walker touched the
- 19:32Speaker 4: football at all?
- 19:33Speaker 7: No, no, no.
- 19:34Speaker 3: Yeah!
- 19:35Speaker 4: Like, it's demoralizing. That is just straight up like, that
- 19:39Speaker 4: is the equivalent of being like, I'm tougher than you.
- 19:42Speaker 7: Right. I'm going to say it right now. I don't
- 19:44Speaker 7: think they teach it enough in practice. I don't think
- 19:46Speaker 7: they did in training camp, and I still don't think
- 19:48Speaker 7: they do during the course of the week.
- 19:49Speaker 3: Technically.
- 19:50Speaker 7: Running. Oh, yeah. Running. I don't think they accentuate it.
- 19:59Speaker 7: Whatever word you want to use here, whatever reason you
- 20:02Speaker 7: want to use, the Broncos are simply not a running
- 20:05Speaker 7: football team. Could they have used a little more running
- 20:08Speaker 7: in the AFC title game? If you're a running football team,
- 20:12Speaker 7: you think that would have come in handy?
- 20:13Speaker 4: You know what's funny? You just hit on something. It's
- 20:16Speaker 4: like a light bulb hit me for a second. They
- 20:19Speaker 4: don't practice it enough. When we watch training camp, and again,
- 20:23Speaker 4: we aren't there at practice, so all I have to
- 20:25Speaker 4: base it off of is what we saw at camp, right?
- 20:27Speaker 4: Even when they're going, quote, live, not in the sense
- 20:30Speaker 4: of tackling and bringing to the ground, but it's like,
- 20:32Speaker 4: it's full speed, we're going 11 on 11, right? When
- 20:36Speaker 4: they call a running play in those... I feel like
- 20:40Speaker 4: it gears down, doesn't it?
- 20:42Speaker 7: It feels like.
- 20:43Speaker 4: So it's like, okay, I stuffed the gap. You would
- 20:45Speaker 4: have been tackled right here. Okay, move the ball, spot it,
- 20:49Speaker 4: move the chains. All right, but when it's a pass play,
- 20:52Speaker 4: it's full speed. I'm going up, trying to knock the
- 20:54Speaker 4: ball down. I'm doing all this stuff. But when they
- 20:56Speaker 4: hand it off, because they can't tackle... It feels like
- 21:00Speaker 4: it's not moving as quickly.
- 21:01Speaker 7: They're not invested in the run game like they're invested
- 21:03Speaker 7: in the pass game. Is that a fair assessment to make?
- 21:05Speaker 7: It certainly seems like it, Vic. When you look at
- 21:09Speaker 7: the play sheet and all the smoke that comes out
- 21:11Speaker 7: of these guys' brains, what do they take great pleasure in?
- 21:15Speaker 1: What?
- 21:16Speaker 7: In passing plays.
- 21:17Speaker 3: In throwing the ball down the field and looking good.
- 21:19Speaker 7: When it comes down to it, football still remains a
- 21:23Speaker 7: Can I move you out of the way? Can I
- 21:24Speaker 7: make you miss me?
- 21:25Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 21:25Speaker 3: That's what it is.
- 21:28Speaker 7: Listen, the only reason Kansas City won last night, you
- 21:32Speaker 7: missed them. You couldn't tackle them. They moved you out
- 21:36Speaker 7: of the way. They didn't wow you.
- 21:38Speaker 3: With, oh, my God, look at that pass over there.
- 21:40Speaker 3: There was no razzle dazzle. No, it wasn't Mahomes.
- 21:42Speaker 4: Firing a dart between two different defenders. Just one quick thing, Moj,
- 21:46Speaker 4: on the training camp thing.
- 21:47Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 21:47Speaker 4: When you're watching, and it's 11 on 11, if— Sertan
- 21:52Speaker 4: or Moss or Hufanga or somebody goes up and makes
- 21:55Speaker 4: a great PBU.
- 21:56Speaker 3: Crowd goes insane.
- 21:58Speaker 4: No, no, no. Forget the crowd.
- 22:00Speaker 3: The team. The team goes insane.
- 22:02Speaker 4: It's hooting and hollering. It's whoo, this, that. Did you
- 22:06Speaker 4: hear that once during run plays during camp? Was there
- 22:10Speaker 4: a hoot nor holler to hear?
- 22:12Speaker 3: There was neither a hoot nor a holler to be heard.
- 22:15Speaker 7: But what I am stunned by this morning is, again,
- 22:19Speaker 7: every human being that knows football... The least bit knew
- 22:23Speaker 7: exactly what Kansas City intended to do today. Last night.
- 22:27Speaker 7: They knew the game plan.
- 22:28Speaker 3: Everybody.
- 22:29Speaker 7: Again, Khalil Benson. Did you guys, by the way, did
- 22:31Speaker 7: you know Khalil Benson's numbers last night? We talked so
- 22:34Speaker 7: much about this young rookie free agent pickup, right? He
- 22:38Speaker 7: wasn't even drafted. Did you know what he did last night?
- 22:42Speaker 7: Take a look at his numbers and tell me.
- 22:43Speaker 4: Well, I don't think he gave up a sack.
- 22:45Speaker 7: This is Khalil... Well, he didn't have to do anything.
- 22:48Speaker 4: I know.
- 22:49Speaker 7: He just showed up.
- 22:49Speaker 3: He did take a penalty.
- 22:50Speaker 7: Last night, Khalil Benson, 32 pass-blocking snaps, one pressure allowed,
- 22:56Speaker 7: and excellent in the run game. He didn't have to
- 22:58Speaker 7: do anything.
- 22:59Speaker 3: You know why?
- 22:59Speaker 7: Because they ran the ball.
- 23:01Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
- 23:02Speaker 2: What's so demoralizing to me about that, Vic, that's the
- 23:05Speaker 2: point I was going to make before you jumped on
- 23:08Speaker 2: in there.
- 23:08Speaker 4: Before I went hooting or hollering.
- 23:09Speaker 3: Hooting or hollering.
- 23:11Speaker 2: Is that we sat here on this program yesterday morning
- 23:15Speaker 2: and last week and said, you know what Andy Reid's
- 23:18Speaker 2: going to do? That old damn football coach, he's going
- 23:21Speaker 2: to run it at you. He's going to get physical.
- 23:24Speaker 2: He's going to smack you right in the face. Ryan
- 23:26Speaker 2: Harris said it yesterday. He reiterated it.
- 23:29Speaker 4: Ryan Harris said it right now. Andy Reid goes full
- 23:32Speaker 4: tackle in training camp.
- 23:35Speaker 3: I mean, Ryan was brilliant yesterday on this program.
- 23:38Speaker 7: They've got to change.
- 23:40Speaker 3: We knew that he was going to smack you right
- 23:42Speaker 3: in the mouth.
- 23:43Speaker 2: And if we knew that, and obviously Ryan played the
- 23:46Speaker 2: damn game, and.
- 23:48Speaker 3: He knows the run game pretty well, the Denver Broncos
- 23:51Speaker 3: had to know that. And it was so demoralizing. You
- 23:54Speaker 3: saw the looks on their faces, Brett.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:55Speaker 3: Because when a guy is across.
- 23:57Speaker 2: From you, Ryan Harris is looking at you, and he
- 24:02Speaker 2: cleans your frigging clock on a run play and.
- 24:05Speaker 3: Blows you out of the gap, blows you out of
- 24:06Speaker 3: the play. Dude, that is demoralizing.
- 24:11Speaker 4: Sure it is.
- 24:11Speaker 3: And they just kept doing it and doing it and
- 24:13Speaker 3: doing it and doing it.
- 24:14Speaker 7: Moj, the Broncos don't win Super Bowl 50 without a
- 24:17Speaker 7: run game and a commitment to it. Do you remember
- 24:19Speaker 7: how many times C.J. Anderson broke loose in big plays, right?
- 24:22Speaker 7: Off-tackle plays to set up play action for Peyton Manning?
- 24:26Speaker 7: And everybody's going to look at that season and say, well,
- 24:28Speaker 7: you know, Peyton was the quarterback. They were a passing team. No,
- 24:30Speaker 7: they weren't.
- 24:30Speaker 3: No, they were not.
- 24:31Speaker 7: They were not. They were a balanced team.
- 24:32Speaker 2: Yes.
- 24:33Speaker 7: This team is not committed to the run game. It
- 24:35Speaker 7: hasn't been. And until you show me you're committed to it,
- 24:38Speaker 7: I'm not going to believe you anymore.
- 24:39Speaker 3: All it took was one first game of the season.
- 24:41Speaker 3: I'm not going to believe you. Switch play callers.
- 24:43Speaker 7: It doesn't matter. It's how you practice it. It's how
- 24:46Speaker 7: you view it. It's how you address it during the week.
- 24:50Speaker 2: Vic, you're making a lot of good points today, including
- 24:54Speaker 2: seven Patrick Mahomes runs. Well, let's even take those out.
- 24:58Speaker 2: Let's take the Mahomes runs out. Let's just go with
- 25:00Speaker 2: Walker and Johnson. 31 rushes last night for Kansas City.
- 25:06Speaker 2: As opposed to 27 passes. When was the last time
- 25:09Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos ran the ball more than they passed it?
- 25:13Speaker 7: In a game?
- 25:15Speaker 3: No, at home for fun.
- 25:17Speaker 4: That's just stupid specific.
- 25:22Speaker 7: Today?
- 25:25Speaker 3: I'm dead serious.
- 25:27Speaker 7: You're such an idiot.
- 25:28Speaker 2: When was the last time they had more rushing attempts
- 25:31Speaker 2: than passing attempts in.
- 25:32Speaker 3: A football game?
- 25:34Speaker 7: When?
- 25:34Speaker 3: I mean, last night, it was like twice as many
- 25:37Speaker 3: passing plays as rush plays.
- 25:38Speaker 7: I don't think they did it once last year.
- 25:40Speaker 2: Takeaway Mahomes scrambles last night, and they still ran.
- 25:42Speaker 3: The ball more than they passed the ball.
- 25:44Speaker 7: When was it?
- 25:45Speaker 3: I don't know. I thought you had the answer. No,
- 25:48Speaker 3: that was rhetorical. Help me. I'm looking for help here.
- 25:52Speaker 7: I had a great point to make, and my stupid
- 25:54Speaker 7: reaction to that question made me forget the point I
- 25:58Speaker 7: was going to make.
- 25:59Speaker 3: In a game?
- 26:02Speaker 7: We were talking about the run game, right? What were
- 26:04Speaker 7: we talking about just now? The run game. Now I've
- 26:07Speaker 7: forgotten it entirely. You guys just completely screwed me up.
- 26:11Speaker 4: Google is telling me it was Christmas Day of 2025,
- 26:15Speaker 4: a 31-24 win against KC. Okay, so they ran the
- 26:16Speaker 4: ball more that day. So last Christmas?
- 26:25Speaker 7: So was that the game? Wait, yeah, that was the
- 26:26Speaker 7: game where the Chiefs had the third-string quarterback. I'm not
- 26:29Speaker 7: talking about more yards or anything. I'm talking about just
- 26:32Speaker 7: a commitment to run the ball.
- 26:33Speaker 2: I'm talking about when you call more running plays than
- 26:35Speaker 2: pass plays in a game.
- 26:36Speaker 4: Oh, it was close. It wasn't quite. 38 pass attempts,
- 26:38Speaker 4: 32 runs.
- 26:39Speaker 7: So it wasn't even that game.
- 26:42Speaker 3: No, they had more rushing yards. I bet what you're
- 26:45Speaker 3: looking up is more rushing yards.
- 26:46Speaker 7: Here's what else is.
- 26:49Speaker 3: Google's wrong.
- 26:49Speaker 7: You're not going to find it. Here's what else got
- 26:52Speaker 7: me last night, and tell me if I should be
- 26:54Speaker 7: concerned about this. Here's what else got me. One quarterback
- 26:58Speaker 7: is coming off an ACL nine months ago. A pretty
- 27:01Speaker 7: devastating knee injury. The other quarterback is coming off an
- 27:04Speaker 7: injury of his own. Ankle surgery. One quarterback ran the
- 27:09Speaker 7: ball for 23 yards, seven times, including a touchdown. Why
- 27:13Speaker 7: isn't Bo ever running the ball in situations like third
- 27:16Speaker 7: and one and Maybe you need a QB sneak or
- 27:19Speaker 7: a QB draw. And I heard last night Aikman say
- 27:21Speaker 7: this on the broadcast. Or maybe it was Peyton on
- 27:25Speaker 7: the Manning cast. Somebody said, well, you know, he's coming
- 27:28Speaker 7: off an injury. You don't want to test it. Mahomes
- 27:31Speaker 7: tested his. Mahomes is just waddling out there. He's running.
- 27:36Speaker 3: Did you see his scramble when they did the reverse cam?
- 27:39Speaker 4: He literally went like this on his knees, like was
- 27:42Speaker 4: jumping back and forth.
- 27:43Speaker 2: You mean when he's touching the back of his offensive lineman?
- 27:47Speaker 7: You know, one of the reasons you got Bo Nix
- 27:49Speaker 7: is because he can move. He's fast. Why are they
- 27:52Speaker 7: not ever utilizing his legs?
- 27:55Speaker 4: Why? I don't know. By the way, Moshe, the answer
- 27:59Speaker 4: to your question was the last regular season game of
- 28:01Speaker 4: last year.
- 28:02Speaker 2: Okay.
- 28:03Speaker 7: Why is it considered... So what happens?
- 28:06Speaker 3: Does it happen once a season?
- 28:09Speaker 7: Is it like my mom's couch that has plastic on it? Mom,
- 28:13Speaker 7: why do you have this couch here if nobody's allowed
- 28:15Speaker 7: to sit on it?
- 28:16Speaker 3: Why is this couch here?
- 28:18Speaker 7: If I can't sit on the couch, what's it for?
- 28:20Speaker 4: For looks?
- 28:21Speaker 7: So you have a quarterback who's got legs that can run.
- 28:25Speaker 7: And you never run him.
- 28:27Speaker 4: But Vic, here's the way I'd put it. Yes, I
- 28:32Speaker 4: would like to see that more. I would. Just run
- 28:36Speaker 4: it in general. Like, third in inches. Empty backfield?
- 28:42Speaker 3: Empty.
- 28:44Speaker 4: Like, not even the threat of a run to the defense.
- 28:48Speaker 4: That makes zero sense.
- 28:50Speaker 7: Zero.
- 28:52Speaker 4: And it's not like you're lighting up the world through
- 28:54Speaker 4: the air.
- 28:54Speaker 3: So it just.
- 28:56Speaker 4: There's so many things from last night and... You know,
- 29:03Speaker 4: talked a lot about the defense and missing tackles and
- 29:05Speaker 4: this and that. Okay, fine. What last night was supposed
- 29:10Speaker 4: to be was the ushering in of a brand new
- 29:14Speaker 4: era of Broncos offensive football. And what's really disappointing is
- 29:22Speaker 4: it looked... All of the things that Sean Payton was
- 29:27Speaker 4: criticized for the last three years of the negatives to
- 29:31Speaker 4: his offensive style, we'll call it, were almost magnified last night.
- 29:37Speaker 4: You're taking delay of game penalties on third and two
- 29:40Speaker 4: because he can't get the play call in on time.
- 29:42Speaker 4: You're taking a run-pass ratio of 6-17 in the first
- 29:49Speaker 4: half of a 7-7 football game. You ran your feature
- 29:54Speaker 4: back three times in the first half.
- 29:57Speaker 7: You committed.
- 29:59Speaker 4: Four three-and-outs on the first six drives of the game.
- 30:03Speaker 4: All the things that we talked about that these need
- 30:05Speaker 4: to be different now with somebody else in charge were
- 30:08Speaker 4: just highlighting the worst aspects.
- 30:10Speaker 3: No, you regressed.
- 30:12Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 30:12Speaker 2: You regressed from even where you were when those were issues.
- 30:16Speaker 7: You know, it's funny because we were coming into this
- 30:18Speaker 7: show and I thought today was all going to be
- 30:20Speaker 7: about missed tackles. That was the keynote, right? And I
- 30:22Speaker 7: get it. But the more we talk, the more we converse,
- 30:25Speaker 7: the more we can exchange information. It comes back to
- 30:28Speaker 7: that offense again and the lack of, I don't know, production.
- 30:32Speaker 7: I don't want to say lack of ingenuity or creativity
- 30:35Speaker 7: because they have one of the greatest play callers of
- 30:37Speaker 7: all time. That's a fact in Sean Payton, who gave
- 30:41Speaker 7: way to Davis Webb. And I don't want to hear,
- 30:45Speaker 7: here's the thing, I don't want to hear you talk
- 30:47Speaker 7: about a run game or balance in the offense anymore.
- 30:51Speaker 3: I don't want to hear it at halftime.
- 30:53Speaker 7: He said it at halftime. We need a more balanced attack.
- 30:56Speaker 7: Until you prove to me you are willing to commit
- 30:59Speaker 7: and invest in the run game, until you show it,
- 31:02Speaker 7: it's all talk.
- 31:05Speaker 2: I'm watching up on the four-letter right now, though. So,
- 31:09Speaker 2: in all, the Kansas City Chiefs broke 19.
- 31:12Speaker 3: Tackles last night.
- 31:13Speaker 2: 11 by Kenneth Walker himself. The Broncos, as a team,
- 31:18Speaker 2: had six broken tackles. I mean, you knew it was coming.
- 31:26Speaker 2: You knew that the freight train, Andy Reid, put all
- 31:29Speaker 2: the coal in the coal bin on his freight train.
- 31:34Speaker 4: But that's, just quickly here.
- 31:37Speaker 3: You knew what was going to happen.
- 31:39Speaker 4: I saw somebody mention this on the text line about
- 31:42Speaker 4: 10 minutes ago, and I just disagree. I disagree with this.
- 31:46Speaker 4: That Kansas City whipped you physically.
- 31:51Speaker 3: I didn't see.
- 31:53Speaker 4: The Broncos' defensive line being moved backwards.
- 31:56Speaker 7: They just couldn't tackle.
- 31:57Speaker 4: They couldn't tackle.
- 31:58Speaker 7: They looked like they were playing with syrup.
- 32:01Speaker 4: When you're making point of contact at the line of scrimmage,
- 32:04Speaker 4: that's what's supposed to be happening. You're doing a good job.
- 32:07Speaker 4: You aren't finishing the play. That's the problem. How about this, Vic?
- 32:14Speaker 4: You get to the rim. Make your defender miss, you
- 32:17Speaker 4: get to the rim, but you don't finish the layup. Moj, it's, hey,
- 32:21Speaker 4: you make a great pass, stretch pass, to get a
- 32:23Speaker 4: guy one-on-one with the goalie. Don't finish the goal.
- 32:25Speaker 7: I'm telling you.
- 32:26Speaker 4: It's that stuff.
- 32:26Speaker 7: Brett, it's like the entire team had feet on their
- 32:31Speaker 7: hands last night. Like, Bo couldn't hold the ball, and
- 32:34Speaker 7: guys couldn't tackle. Instead of hands, they had feet.
- 32:38Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. Well, and sometimes, Vic, they didn't have arms.
- 32:45Speaker 4: Rasheed Rice's touchdown. Jonah Ellis was like, how about a
- 32:48Speaker 4: shoulder 15 yards away from the sideline? Is that going
- 32:53Speaker 4: to do anything? Oh, no, just bounce off and then
- 32:56Speaker 4: waltz in the end zone? I was blown away. So,
- 33:01Speaker 4: a lot more to get to. We'll talk to Adam
- 33:03Speaker 4: Schefter at 920. Oh, by the way, next.
- 33:05Speaker 3: Or as Vic might call it, for your information.
- 33:08Speaker 4: Hang on a second. I know this is, oh, by
- 33:11Speaker 4: the way, we can do some other stories. It's fine,
- 33:13Speaker 4: but I pulled up the highlight tape of this game, Vic.
- 33:18Speaker 4: It's remarkable, just looking back to some of this.
- 33:21Speaker 3: I want to see the L-22.
- 33:23Speaker 4: Third and one. They go empty backfield. There's five guys
- 33:29Speaker 4: split out. Third and one.
- 33:32Speaker 7: Third and one, what was the score at that point?
- 33:33Speaker 7: Was it 14-7? It was 7-7. It was 7-7.
- 33:36Speaker 4: I think so.
- 33:38Speaker 3: That was the first half, right?
- 33:40Speaker 4: Yes.
- 33:41Speaker 7: They're driving right to left on your television screen. Correct.
- 33:44Speaker 2: I mean, why not stack and run it right up
- 33:48Speaker 2: the center's tailpipe?
- 33:50Speaker 4: All right, so here you go. Yeah, 7-7. There's five
- 33:52Speaker 4: minutes left in the game. It's third and one. And look,
- 33:56Speaker 4: the TV screen is showing about 15 yards. Four receivers
- 34:01Speaker 4: are out of frame on third down.
- 34:04Speaker 7: Well, first of all, they go empty. They go empty.
- 34:06Speaker 7: All right? They go empty. They send everybody out. So
- 34:10Speaker 7: they vacate the backfield.
- 34:11Speaker 3: And Troutman runs like a little button hook.
- 34:13Speaker 7: And everybody else runs more than 15 yards.
- 34:15Speaker 3: Everybody else is vert. I don't know, Vic. What are
- 34:19Speaker 3: you doing? I don't know.
- 34:20Speaker 4: And now I'm looking at some other things. And Mosher,
- 34:22Speaker 4: the reason why I wanted to do this, oh, by
- 34:26Speaker 4: the way, is because I want to see where guys
- 34:29Speaker 4: are getting hit. Like, I want to see where the
- 34:31Speaker 4: initial contact is made and where the play ends. You
- 34:33Speaker 4: watched three plays with me.
- 34:35Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:36Speaker 4: It was at the line of scrimmage on plays that
- 34:40Speaker 4: turned into 15, 20-yard gains. That inexcusable. Anyway, if you
- 34:45Speaker 4: got one, Moj, go ahead.
- 34:46Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, hey, Vic, here's a question for you.
- 34:49Speaker 2: How many teams have clinched a berth in the postseason
- 34:51Speaker 2: in baseball?
- 34:52Speaker 7: Well, the Dodgers have and the Yankees. So two? No, three.
- 34:56Speaker 5: Three.
- 34:57Speaker 7: Milwaukee, too, right? Yeah.
- 34:59Speaker 3: There's a couple more. Tampa. Tampa leads the dang American
- 35:03Speaker 3: League East.
- 35:04Speaker 7: Oh, okay.
- 35:07Speaker 4: And?
- 35:07Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 35:09Speaker 3: Well, that's the point. Nobody knows nobody gives a rat's rip.
- 35:12Speaker 7: Are they still partying?
- 35:13Speaker 3: Have we ever talked less about baseball than we have
- 35:17Speaker 3: in the last six months?
- 35:18Speaker 7: What do you mean?
- 35:19Speaker 4: I've tried my best to talk about baseball all the time.
- 35:22Speaker 2: But we don't talk about, there's nothing nationally about baseball
- 35:26Speaker 2: that we even give a rat's rip about.
- 35:27Speaker 3: I mean, I keep an eye on the standings.
- 35:29Speaker 2: I realize Milwaukee's good and the White Sox have had
- 35:32Speaker 2: a resurgent season.
- 35:33Speaker 3: I get all that stuff, but we don't talk about
- 35:34Speaker 3: this at all. What do you want me to do? Well,
- 35:37Speaker 3: it's just weird that you.
- 35:38Speaker 2: Have a national sport and we literally spend not one
- 35:42Speaker 2: second a.
- 35:42Speaker 3: Week on it.
- 35:44Speaker 7: That's not true.
- 35:45Speaker 3: Oh, your little appetizer hour. You play tickle fight with
- 35:48Speaker 3: the seam heads.
- 35:48Speaker 4: You talked about the Dodgers. You talked about the Rockies.
- 35:51Speaker 4: I give you my two minutes of baseball every day.
- 35:54Speaker 7: Will, let's talk about it in a negative form. It's
- 35:57Speaker 7: never anything positive.
- 35:58Speaker 3: Let me confess, Brett.
- 35:59Speaker 4: It's also not true. I don't want to talk baseball.
- 36:02Speaker 3: I don't even care. I don't even care. I'm telling you.
- 36:08Speaker 4: Well, I do. I don't know. What do you want
- 36:09Speaker 4: me to say? I do care.
- 36:11Speaker 3: Anyway, five teams have clinched. Tampa, the Yankees, Milwaukee, the Dodgers,
- 36:17Speaker 3: and somebody else, I think. Okay.
- 36:20Speaker 7: Oh, by the way, I'm going back to the Broncos.
- 36:23Speaker 7: Thanks for your baseball. Going back to the Broncos. How
- 36:26Speaker 7: would you characterize the Broncos offense in the AFC championship game?
- 36:30Speaker 7: What would you call it?
- 36:31Speaker 3: Junk.
- 36:33Speaker 4: Yeah, it was bad. Okay.
- 36:35Speaker 7: Did you know the Broncos in the AFC Championship game
- 36:38Speaker 7: in a winter squall in a near blizzard produced more
- 36:42Speaker 7: yards of offense in that game than they did last night?
- 36:46Speaker 5: Yep.
- 36:47Speaker 2: I think in that game it was, what, 183? Last
- 36:48Speaker 2: night they had 176 yards, the fewest ever in a
- 36:50Speaker 2: Sean Payton Broncos game.
- 36:54Speaker 7: Offense.
- 36:55Speaker 2: Ever.
- 36:55Speaker 3: What was the title game?
- 36:56Speaker 2: 183?
- 36:56Speaker 3: Something like that?
- 36:57Speaker 7: I just know they produced more in that game where
- 37:01Speaker 7: everything was stacked against the offense.
- 37:03Speaker 3: Hold on now.
- 37:03Speaker 2: I'm going to find it. Now you've got my curiosity kicking.
- 37:07Speaker 2: I got you.
- 37:08Speaker 3: I think it had to be like.
- 37:11Speaker 4: They produced 181 yards. 181.
- 37:14Speaker 3: I was so close.
- 37:18Speaker 7: So close.
- 37:20Speaker 4: They had less first downs also yesterday than they did
- 37:24Speaker 4: So you're.
- 37:24Speaker 2: Telling me in an ugly crap game where Mother Nature
- 37:29Speaker 2: unleashed her wrath, they had more first downs and yards
- 37:34Speaker 2: in that game than they did on Monday Night Friggin'
- 37:37Speaker 2: Football against Mahomes on national television.
- 37:40Speaker 7: With everybody healthy.
- 37:41Speaker 3: With everybody healthy. That's insane.
- 37:43Speaker 7: Probably the only time this year that you'll have a
- 37:45Speaker 7: healthy roster.
- 37:46Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, by the way, who's the coach at Virginia Tech?
- 37:52Speaker 3: Oh, it's... The former Penn State guy.
- 37:55Speaker 7: James Franklin.
- 37:56Speaker 3: James Franklin. Yes.
- 37:57Speaker 4: James Franklin has always been sort of a weird guy.
- 38:01Speaker 4: This one is very odd. He's doing his press conference yesterday.
- 38:04Speaker 4: And this interaction takes place.
- 38:08Speaker 7: We'll start with Michael, please.
- 38:10Speaker 5: Hey, Coach.
- 38:11Speaker 3: Michael Howes with the Baltimore Sun. Hey, Michael.
- 38:14Speaker 7: Hey, Michael.
- 38:15Speaker 5: What do you remember about working alongside?
- 38:23Speaker 7: Michael, how you doing?
- 38:27Speaker 3: Can you hear me? Yeah, I'm saying how you doing?
- 38:29Speaker 8: Good, how are you?
- 38:30Speaker 7: Good, good. See, when you let Zoom take over these
- 38:37Speaker 7: press conferences, that was obviously a Zoom thing, right? It
- 38:40Speaker 7: was Zoom. It was muted or whatever. Just hilarity ensues.
- 38:43Speaker 3: It's so stupid.
- 38:44Speaker 2: Well, no, here's the deal. He heard him. He just
- 38:47Speaker 2: wanted him to say how he was doing.
- 38:48Speaker 4: Here's what happened. So Virginia Tech, they started the year 2-0.
- 38:51Speaker 6: So good.
- 38:55Speaker 4: Here is Michael, whoever this guy was, Michael. Evan? Michael
- 38:59Speaker 4: said he thought his Zoom was glitching, so he just
- 39:03Speaker 4: kept kind of trying to power through it. And James
- 39:07Speaker 4: Franklin was being a weirdo that demanded he acknowledge the hello.
- 39:12Speaker 3: Hey, Michael. What do you remember about working alone?
- 39:16Speaker 8: Hey, Michael.
- 39:17Speaker 4: What do you remember about working alone?
- 39:18Speaker 7: Hey, Michael.
- 39:19Speaker 3: How you doing, Michael? Michael, how you doing?
- 39:22Speaker 4: Evan, Evan, Evan.
- 39:24Speaker 3: Can you hear me? Yeah, I'm saying how you doing? Good,
- 39:26Speaker 3: how are you? Good, good.
- 39:28Speaker 4: Why did he do that?
- 39:29Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 39:29Speaker 3: I don't know, but it's awesome.
- 39:31Speaker 7: It's absolutely fantastic.
- 39:34Speaker 4: Should we do that to Schefter when he comes up
- 39:36Speaker 4: with us?
- 39:36Speaker 7: Hi, Adam. Hi, Adam. Hi, Adam.
- 39:39Speaker 4: Hi, Adam. But yeah, James Franklin being a little bit
- 39:43Speaker 4: of a weirdo. How about that?
- 39:45Speaker 7: Oh, by the way, the.
- 39:47Speaker 4: Clippers and Raptors trade officially is done now.
- 39:49Speaker 3: Finally.
- 39:50Speaker 7: Finally.
- 39:51Speaker 4: They've agreed it's the same thing that they agreed upon
- 39:53Speaker 4: before all the investigation stuff. It's Kawhi to the Raptors
- 39:56Speaker 4: for Brandon Ingram, Grady Dick, two unprotected first-round picks, one
- 40:00Speaker 4: first-round pick swap, and two second-rounders, which again leads me
- 40:03Speaker 4: to tell you this. What was the punishment for the Clippers?
- 40:10Speaker 4: Was it five first-round picks?
- 40:11Speaker 7: Correct.
- 40:13Speaker 4: They're getting two back, unprotected. They're getting one swap, which
- 40:18Speaker 4: does that still count as a swap? If those are vacant,
- 40:21Speaker 4: I don't know. And two second rounders. Now that punishment
- 40:26Speaker 4: doesn't seem so strict, does it? Because I get it
- 40:28Speaker 4: that they would have that as extra ones had he
- 40:30Speaker 4: not been punished, but you're still getting picks in return.
- 40:34Speaker 3: Hey, Vic.
- 40:34Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, did you see in regards to that,
- 40:37Speaker 2: the comments of one Danilo Gallinari?
- 40:39Speaker 7: I was going to mention that as a corollary to
- 40:41Speaker 7: that story.
- 40:41Speaker 3: He absolutely excoriated Kawhi Leonard.
- 40:44Speaker 7: They're not fond of one another, apparently.
- 40:46Speaker 3: No, they are not. And it says he ruined his career. Well,
- 40:50Speaker 3: you know, I don't know.
- 40:52Speaker 7: Listen, Danilo is yelling at Kawhi. Don't blame the player.
- 40:58Speaker 7: Blame the system. That's a system problem.
- 41:01Speaker 4: Hang on a second. I heard PhD talking about this yesterday,
- 41:05Speaker 4: and Palembas was saying, I don't blame Kawhi at all,
- 41:09Speaker 4: or Kawhi is not at fault in this. Yeah, he is.
- 41:13Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question. I get that everybody's
- 41:17Speaker 4: trying to make the most money they can make. And
- 41:19Speaker 4: Kawhi's made a ton of it. He knew that this
- 41:23Speaker 4: was against the rules. He can say he didn't all
- 41:26Speaker 4: he wants to. He knew it because he knew his uncle,
- 41:28Speaker 4: who is his agent, was doing some shady things to
- 41:30Speaker 4: get more money. And in doing so, you know you're
- 41:34Speaker 4: putting your team at risk.
- 41:35Speaker 7: And let's not forget some of the other stuff that
- 41:37Speaker 7: was going on behind the scenes in L.A. When Paul
- 41:39Speaker 7: George and Kawhi were teammates, do you remember? The story
- 41:42Speaker 7: came up. They had their own private dressing room. They
- 41:45Speaker 7: had their own private training staff, their own masseuse and
- 41:47Speaker 7: all that. They were treated separate from the rest of
- 41:50Speaker 7: the team. They were like everybody else was beneath them.
- 41:53Speaker 2: The league should have made him stay. The league should
- 41:57Speaker 2: have nullified the trade and made him stay in Los Angeles.
- 42:00Speaker 2: I agree.
- 42:00Speaker 3: Sit in your soil. Yep. That's a big missed opportunity
- 42:04Speaker 3: right there.
- 42:05Speaker 4: Now, the Pablo Torre investigation, I think the reason why
- 42:08Speaker 4: they didn't... I guess the only way that Ballmer could
- 42:14Speaker 4: sue was... Something about having it go through the players' union,
- 42:19Speaker 4: and once Kawhi agreed to his punishment, he couldn't do
- 42:22Speaker 4: that anymore.
- 42:23Speaker 3: That is correct.
- 42:23Speaker 4: And so that let Kawhi pretty much off the hook
- 42:26Speaker 4: with a little bit of a fine.
- 42:27Speaker 3: Only the NBA PA can ask for the arbitration or whatever, right?
- 42:34Speaker 2: Yes.
- 42:35Speaker 3: That's what it is.
- 42:36Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, Todd Monken told reporters that Deshaun
- 42:39Speaker 4: Watson is expected to start on Sunday. Based on his
- 42:42Speaker 4: film review in which he said, quote, he did a
- 42:45Speaker 4: lot of good things....
- 42:48Speaker 3: In which I would reply, such as?
- 42:54Speaker 7: Exactly.
- 42:55Speaker 4: Who's a reporter in Cleveland? Mary Kay Cabot is one
- 42:58Speaker 4: of them, right? She's been there forever. Yeah, follow up.
- 43:02Speaker 3: Like what? Yeah, but you can't be flippant. I mean,
- 43:05Speaker 3: you're not going to be flippant.
- 43:06Speaker 4: But how can you ask that question to get him
- 43:08Speaker 4: to say, can you point to a specific thing that
- 43:11Speaker 4: you would say I watched in film and he did well?
- 43:14Speaker 2: Well, that's the team that you're going to be The
- 43:16Speaker 2: team they played is the team you're going to be
- 43:18Speaker 2: facing this week at home for the Broncos. I mean,
- 43:21Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars saw Lawrence throw four touchdowns and put
- 43:25Speaker 2: up 34 points on the opening weekend.
- 43:28Speaker 4: I got a question, Coach Munkin. Have you considered calling
- 43:31Speaker 4: Drew Brees?
- 43:34Speaker 2: We'll talk to Shefty about that in about 20 minutes, right?
- 43:36Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 43:36Speaker 3: 25 minutes.
- 43:37Speaker 4: Yeah. Nelly, you got one for the way out?
- 43:40Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 43:40Speaker 8: Oh, by the way, I know you guys aren't fans
- 43:43Speaker 8: of talking about baseball, but just quickly, I need your
- 43:45Speaker 8: opinion on something. On Labor Day, we had a baseball
- 43:49Speaker 8: game that lasted one hour and 51 minutes. The Phillies
- 43:55Speaker 8: won that game over the Braves one to nothing, and
- 43:58Speaker 8: with the pitch clock era and the game moving so
- 44:00Speaker 8: quickly these days, took less than two hours. You a
- 44:03Speaker 8: fan of that, or do you want a little more
- 44:04Speaker 8: time at the ballpark?
- 44:05Speaker 4: That's a little too quick. That's too quick. That's too quick.
- 44:09Speaker 4: I need my games like they're hovering around like two
- 44:11Speaker 4: hours and 30 minutes.
- 44:12Speaker 3: I like that.
- 44:12Speaker 4: It's enough time to get yourself a couple of brewskis.
- 44:15Speaker 4: Why is your shoe off?
- 44:19Speaker 3: I just want to throw my shoe at you.
- 44:22Speaker 4: Why?
- 44:22Speaker 1: Nelly.
- 44:23Speaker 7: Why?
- 44:23Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 44:28Speaker 4: So Vic has thrown both shoes now at Nelly at
- 44:30Speaker 4: the glass, and his response to that is, I don't
- 44:32Speaker 4: know why. Which, you know what?
- 44:34Speaker 3: You throw your shoe at Nelly right now.
- 44:35Speaker 4: You know what, Nelly?
- 44:39Speaker 7: Throw your shoe.
- 44:39Speaker 3: You want some flips in the mix?
- 44:41Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 44:42Speaker 8: All right.
- 44:42Speaker 7: Hey, hey.
- 44:49Speaker 3: Hey, Steven.
- 44:49Speaker 4: Why are we doing this? Well, you know. Oh, by
- 44:54Speaker 4: the way.
- 44:54Speaker 3: Take out our frustrations on last night, man.
- 44:57Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, Adam Schefter in 20 minutes. Take
- 44:59Speaker 4: a wrap.