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Club 520 - Shawn Michaels on WRESTLEMANIA 42, Sexyy Red, The Undertaker, HBK's origin · Club 520 Podcast

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  Speaker 4: What's going on? You know what it is?
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  Speaker 1: Club five twenty Live and wrestle Mania Las Vegas, Nevada. Man,
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  Speaker 1: interviews this week. We got a legend in the building.
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  Speaker 1: You know how it goes here. We're gonna introduce the
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  Speaker 1: last to my far lit if we got my dog
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  Speaker 1: Bishop be hearing out the prailes, how you were, sir,
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  Speaker 1: cool and nasty.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get to it. I'm excited for this and I
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  Speaker 2: got a couple of questions. He defeated one of my
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  Speaker 2: dogs back in the day, so I got all.
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  Speaker 1: You got to pay. Yeah, the best thing about this
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  Speaker 1: is me. He's a little bit new with to the
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  Speaker 1: wrestle world. Now, he's a little bit to it, but
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  Speaker 1: he been locked in last couple of years to be
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  Speaker 1: the acne mom.
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  Speaker 4: So for about this, he's definitely tapped it for sure.
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  Speaker 5: I always remember you from back in the day that
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  Speaker 5: show because it was back.
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  Speaker 4: Legend for sure, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: To my right, we got my dog young Nato Fatigue
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  Speaker 1: the restlers of in the building.
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  Speaker 3: How you feeling, I'm geek y'all know this is one
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  Speaker 3: of my top five wrestlers of all time.
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  Speaker 4: So to have him in the building and sit down.
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  Speaker 1: With us, yeah, excited now listen, man, know but I
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  Speaker 1: know I keep it very professional on the show, but
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  Speaker 1: today I am not doing none of that.
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  Speaker 4: Ship Man. We got my favorite rest of all time.
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  Speaker 1: The reason why I got in trouble in middle school,
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  Speaker 1: the reason why I thought I could practice wrestling moves.
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  Speaker 4: Ah, my friends, man HBK.
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  Speaker 1: One of the best champions of all time, Sean Michael's
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  Speaker 1: in the build a big dog.
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  Speaker 4: We appreciate you having this, man.
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  Speaker 5: I thank you guys.
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  Speaker 6: Very much for having me, and I'm honored to have
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  Speaker 6: contribute to your delinquencies.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, listen, do you need this right right here?
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  Speaker 1: This caused the wave right here? This was middle school times.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody walking down the hallway with this. We had no
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  Speaker 1: business doing that at eleven twelve years old. And I
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  Speaker 1: know while we got in trouble for it, I don't
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  Speaker 1: care anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Man. We got a lot to talk about with you.
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  Speaker 1: But what's that moment like when y'all had some of
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  Speaker 1: the craziest merch ones of all time that was pre
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  Speaker 1: social media.
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  Speaker 4: To be in the crowd and see all the d
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  Speaker 4: x rs, what was that like?
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  Speaker 6: Well, again, for us, back back then, you didn't really
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  Speaker 6: mark sales.
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  Speaker 5: I mean they were a big part of me.
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  Speaker 6: You didn't focus on that. It was just something that
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  Speaker 6: they kind of made shirts here and there. But we
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  Speaker 6: just knew we were onto something special with the dx
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  Speaker 6: you know, sort of attitude era in general, and it
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  Speaker 6: was it was all derived out of very much you know,
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  Speaker 6: kind of anger and bitterness and yeah, you know, bucking
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  Speaker 6: the system, so to speak. And it turned out obviously
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  Speaker 6: in a very positive way for us. But at the beginning,
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  Speaker 6: if it makes feel any better, we were getting in a.
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  Speaker 5: Lot of trouble to his left shows.
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  Speaker 6: Stuff we were doing was not technically okayd Before we
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  Speaker 6: went out, we just did it anyway because it was
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  Speaker 6: live television and it was much easier to come back
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  Speaker 6: and say, oh sorry that it was to ask for permission.
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  Speaker 1: That legendary song man and used to ring out in
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  Speaker 1: the halls, But it was the light hearing that growing
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  Speaker 1: up and see Shaw Michael now Mann, this.
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  Speaker 2: Is crazy to really just sitting next to you, man,
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  Speaker 2: I really discovered you. You defeated my dog, British Bulldog
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  Speaker 2: in the match back in the day.
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  Speaker 5: You kicked his ass.
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  Speaker 6: Man, Well, Yigga's ass might be a little a little loose.
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  Speaker 6: Fortunate enough to again to get to work with Davy,
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  Speaker 6: who was an unbelievably talent dude. Yeah, he and I
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  Speaker 6: actually were on live events.
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  Speaker 5: He and I were married to each other for years.
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  Speaker 6: For having sakes, and he was always just a fantastic
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  Speaker 6: dude to work with. Fortunately, one of the guys that
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  Speaker 6: helped me begin to you know, ascend the rosters, so
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  Speaker 6: to speak.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: I never would have known to be here with her.
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  Speaker 4: Was a British bulldog fan.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I told you early.
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  Speaker 2: On, I was like, y'all, yeah, it took me to
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  Speaker 2: about eleven or twelve to you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: Switch over just a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: As I'm a huge wrestling fan, so I know pretty
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  Speaker 3: much everything. I know your story from day one, But
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  Speaker 3: I want to talk about when you was with the
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  Speaker 3: Marty Jeanetti and y'all was a tag team. But that
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  Speaker 3: moment where you were able to go solo, you threw
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  Speaker 3: them through the glass, messed him up, hit him with
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  Speaker 3: the sweecham music, all that good stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Like, what was that moment for you like in your career, Like, well, you.
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  Speaker 6: Certainly at the time, we never everything was so in
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  Speaker 6: the moment and.
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  Speaker 5: You weren't thinking about the future.
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  Speaker 6: You were never thinking about anything from the standpoint of
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  Speaker 6: I hope this is something that's memorable, will go down
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  Speaker 6: in history, is one of the greatest turns ever.
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  Speaker 5: You never certainly didn't.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't have the mental capacity to think about things
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  Speaker 6: from the perspective of a sixty year old man I
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  Speaker 6: was at.
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  Speaker 5: That time in my life.
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  Speaker 6: I never thought I'd even lived a sit so but
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  Speaker 6: it was an idea, really, it was an idea that
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  Speaker 6: I had for both Marty and I as the.
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  Speaker 5: Rockers, to do with the Nasty Boys.
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  Speaker 6: That was a whole idea that I was going to
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  Speaker 6: try to pitch, you know, to Pat Patterson Vince McMahon
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  Speaker 6: at the time for a storyline because we were just
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  Speaker 6: kind of existing the Rockers, you know, we kind of
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  Speaker 6: had had our peak and we're just kind of plateauing
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  Speaker 6: at that time.
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  Speaker 5: So I was just trying to think of different ideas
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  Speaker 5: for storylines.
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  Speaker 6: And then the opportunity, you know, came up to go singles,
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  Speaker 6: and I just shifted the idea to doing it with
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  Speaker 6: Marty and I and now all these years later has
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  Speaker 6: become one of these iconic terms turns. And also I
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  Speaker 6: knew that the glass shattering was going to be a
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  Speaker 6: big impact moment.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the turn and everything.
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  Speaker 6: Was special, but at that time tag team, and it's
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  Speaker 6: not like Marty and.
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  Speaker 5: I were the main tag team or anything.
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  Speaker 6: So to do and angle that serious and that impactful
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  Speaker 6: at the time, was a big deal.
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  Speaker 5: He you know, he.
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  Speaker 6: Bled and everything else said for us to be able
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  Speaker 6: to have that kind of moment on television just highlighted
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  Speaker 6: for us turned out to be much bigger, I think
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  Speaker 6: than both of us ever imagined.
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  Speaker 3: No, definitely one of my best hill of times. I
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  Speaker 3: would say johnsena recently turned the hill. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: Johnson is like, but sure number one for me, Like
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  Speaker 3: that moment was crazy.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it's like again that that is something that I
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  Speaker 6: think over time has really gotten more special. And to
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  Speaker 6: be honest, yeah, because you do you realize how impactful
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  Speaker 6: it was, and my career was, you know, has just
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  Speaker 6: been so fortunate then to be a part of some
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  Speaker 6: really big moments. To be a part of the first
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  Speaker 6: Ladder match, and you know, you know, the first Iron
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  Speaker 6: Man match, the first tell in a sound match. There
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  Speaker 6: were so many aspects in my career that I'm very
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  Speaker 6: fortunate to have been involved in. The degeneration next come
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  Speaker 6: on man, you know, collaboration with all of us. Those
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  Speaker 6: things are just absolutely huge things in the in the
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  Speaker 6: scope of the ww.
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  Speaker 5: And I was fortunate to be a part of a
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  Speaker 5: lot of them.
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  Speaker 1: Now I know we are wrestle may I want to
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: ask you this question two times back to back, Royal
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: Rumble winner, what was more funck you?
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  Speaker 4: Royal Rumble or Medium?
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  Speaker 6: So from a pure fun standpoint, the Rumble is more
• 7:30
  Speaker 6: fun because it's not as pressure filled and one focused
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  Speaker 6: on you. It's more about the entire match and just
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  Speaker 6: the idea. I'm very happy. I feel like the Rumble
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  Speaker 6: has gotten bigger than it was in our day. I
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  Speaker 6: think it's become so much more special over time, and
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  Speaker 6: people have really began to appreciate the Rumble and everything
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  Speaker 6: that goes on with them.
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  Speaker 5: But at that time it was.
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  Speaker 6: Certainly I think from a guy, if you're working in
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  Speaker 6: the ring and you look at it and you go,
• 8:04
  Speaker 6: that's an easier thing to have to do because you're
• 8:08
  Speaker 6: part of a much bigger segment, so to speak. When
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  Speaker 6: it's one on you, I get is at WrestleMania, that's
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  Speaker 6: when the doing of the stress, the anxiety, pressure of
• 8:20
  Speaker 6: making sure you go out there and deliver, and as
• 8:23
  Speaker 6: you go up in the card and then you're foolish
• 8:26
  Speaker 6: enough to call yourself mister WrestleMania after a while, then
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  Speaker 6: the spotlight really gets focused on you and as enjoyable
• 8:33
  Speaker 6: as that can be. On one hand, that means everybody's
• 8:37
  Speaker 6: going to be looking at you, and the minute you
• 8:40
  Speaker 6: don't perform at a really high level, you're kind of screwed.
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  Speaker 6: But fortunately for me, that was something that I was,
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  Speaker 6: nine times out of ten pretty dark capable of living
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  Speaker 6: up to.
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  Speaker 5: The name, and I was good about it.
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  Speaker 6: I always do look at I see things by Michael Jordan,
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  Speaker 6: and he was so com competitive, and he was somebody
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  Speaker 6: with very little time on the clock. He wanted the pressure,
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  Speaker 6: he wanted the moment, and that's something that I realized
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  Speaker 6: back then that I had in common from that standpoint.
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  Speaker 6: It was it was even though it drove me crazy
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  Speaker 6: from a stress and anxiety standpoint, I wanted that kind
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  Speaker 6: of pressure because I felt like that's without those kinds
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  Speaker 6: of things on me, I'm not motivated enough to do
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  Speaker 6: it just on my own.
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  Speaker 4: There's dope and obviously it makes sense. Oh yeah, it
• 9:32
  Speaker 4: makes a lot of sense. Shout outs to the dude
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  Speaker 4: documentary lovel pakout right now.
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  Speaker 1: I'll watched that before here, so to see like how
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: you perform and like how you balance what was.
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  Speaker 4: Going on your personal life. It's a still get out
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  Speaker 4: there and do what you did.
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: There's nothing but respect because obviously you had a hell
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: of a work like balance, but you got out there
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  Speaker 1: every night and put it on the line. Memorable moments
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  Speaker 1: for everybody. And it's funny because he's been taped back
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: in to wrestling recently and the first thing we went
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: to was Roy Rump. Yeah, that was gonna He was
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  Speaker 1: just like, it's a huge difference, but it was, like
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: you said, the two different types of pressure between us
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  Speaker 1: two was real.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and you know, obviously.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know. It's it's very strange for me at
• 10:09
  Speaker 6: the time. All these years later, I think everybody looks
• 10:12
  Speaker 6: at it as if it was it was always going
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  Speaker 6: to happen.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Very early on, I was just always thinking to myself,
• 10:20
  Speaker 6: if I don't do well each and every time I
• 10:24
  Speaker 6: go out there, I'm going.
• 10:25
  Speaker 5: To lose my spot.
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  Speaker 6: I was at somebody that the company kind of looked
• 10:32
  Speaker 6: at and said, hey, let's go with him. It was
• 10:35
  Speaker 6: something that sort of fell into my lap. Fortunately, and
• 10:39
  Speaker 6: then after that I just felt like at any moment
• 10:43
  Speaker 6: it could be taken away.
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  Speaker 5: So it made me just make sure even a live
• 10:47
  Speaker 5: events I didn't take.
• 10:48
  Speaker 6: I didn't take many nights off live events, because I
• 10:52
  Speaker 6: just it was something that I felt like if I
• 10:54
  Speaker 6: slipped at any time, I was going to lose that opportunity,
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  Speaker 6: And again, probably put way more pressure on myself early
• 11:02
  Speaker 6: on than I needed to, And then as I got over,
• 11:05
  Speaker 6: I was able to balance it in a much more
• 11:07
  Speaker 6: positive way.
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  Speaker 5: Now And how did you even join the sport wrestling mass?
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  Speaker 6: So I again, I watched it when I was twelve
• 11:14
  Speaker 6: years old, way back San Antonio, Texas. At twelve o'clock
• 11:17
  Speaker 6: on Saturday night, Southwest Championship Wrestling was on, and just
• 11:22
  Speaker 6: the montage at the beginning of the show, you know,
• 11:24
  Speaker 6: you see everybody jumping off the ropes and doing all
• 11:27
  Speaker 6: this cool stuff, and I was just, oh my god,
• 11:29
  Speaker 6: this is the coolest stuff ever. And it was McDaniels, Tully, Blanchard,
• 11:35
  Speaker 6: Gino Hernandez, Andie Mansfield, Scott Casey. Every now and then
• 11:39
  Speaker 6: Nick Bockwinkle or Bruise and Brodie would come through, and
• 11:43
  Speaker 6: it just I just thought it was the coolest thing
• 11:45
  Speaker 6: in the world. And then talk about age and yourself.
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  Speaker 6: Then cable television camera and then you're exposed to world
• 11:53
  Speaker 6: class wrestling and ron ericson the Freebirds and then WTBS
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  Speaker 6: with Rick Flair and so many other people, Harley Race,
• 12:02
  Speaker 6: w o R t V in New York back then
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  Speaker 6: Jimmy super Fly snooker diving.
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  Speaker 4: Off the cage on a legend.
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  Speaker 6: And so it was just captivating. It was absolutely the
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  Speaker 6: coolest thing I'd ever seen. And it looked like a
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  Speaker 6: job that took a lot of athleticism. And I was
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  Speaker 6: an athlete, you know, my entire young life. The linebacker, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I was. I went to a y you know, I
• 12:26
  Speaker 6: was on the base. It was in a high school.
• 12:28
  Speaker 6: It is a small school, so I never got off
• 12:30
  Speaker 6: the field. I was an offensive tackle and an outside
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  Speaker 6: linebacker on d Yeah, well I was.
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  Speaker 5: I was.
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  Speaker 6: For me, I was a chubby kid. Ah so I
• 12:43
  Speaker 6: was two hundred pounds in our school.
• 12:45
  Speaker 5: That was big. So I was, Yeah, I was. I was.
• 12:48
  Speaker 6: I was a right tackle and like I said, an
• 12:51
  Speaker 6: outside linebacker. You know for sure, stuff like that, you know,
• 12:56
  Speaker 6: to give you on the kickoff teams, return team.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody, yeah, almost everybody played this said it didn't come
• 13:02
  Speaker 5: out of the field though.
• 13:03
  Speaker 4: I guess who's out about Travis Hunter Corner.
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  Speaker 6: I think they had I want to say, eighteen to
• 13:12
  Speaker 6: twenty two guys on the team.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, so you had to play.
• 13:18
  Speaker 6: We fluctuated between two A and three A focal time.
• 13:23
  Speaker 6: So and that's when five A was I think the biggest.
• 13:25
  Speaker 6: So there was a small school. So yeah, you never
• 13:27
  Speaker 6: got off the creeld man.
• 13:29
  Speaker 5: That line backer background makes sense now, no what I guess,
• 13:34
  Speaker 5: believe it or not. I was.
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  Speaker 4: I was.
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: I had footwork.
• 13:37
  Speaker 6: That was the thing that helped men, and that put
• 13:39
  Speaker 6: ended up helping me so much in wrestling, is that
• 13:43
  Speaker 6: I had really good footwork and I was very coordinated,
• 13:47
  Speaker 6: and thankfully there, I was not smart enough to be
• 13:51
  Speaker 6: careful about anything I did not you know, going out
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  Speaker 6: there with reckless abandon seemed fun to me. So getting
• 13:59
  Speaker 6: up the ladders or you know, jumping off the cages
• 14:02
  Speaker 6: and things like that. Yeah, it seems like a lot
• 14:04
  Speaker 6: of fun. They never once started about getting hurt.
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• 15:18
  Speaker 1: call one day hundred and eight my reset gambling problem
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: called one day hundred Gambler in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Michigan,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: New Jersey, Tennessee, and Virginia. I want to ask you
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: this question. One of my favorite finishing moves of all
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: time sweetchen music. How did that come about?
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: So that I was watching World class wrestling and a
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: guy by the name of Gentlemen Chris Adams, he did
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: the super kick, and I just that was a move
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: that I didn't see a lot of people do, and
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: when he would do it, he did it so quickly,
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: and the guy would take a great snap pump, and
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: I just thought, that's a really cool move and it
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: was one of those you.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: Didn't see everybody doing.
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: And and so that was something that once I got
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: into wrestling, I certainly put in my arsenal, and then
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: Marty and I would use it in tag team matches,
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: and then I eventually when I went singles. It was
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: something early on that I did to set up. You know,
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: I'd gone singles, and you always feel like, well, I've
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: got to I've got to have a finishing maneuver. And
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: so I started doing this, uh side suplex is sort
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: of like a double underhook and you know a crotch,
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: you know, uh bellied back, so to speak. And it
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: was okay, but I would set it up with the kick,
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: and then eventually Pat Patterson.
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: Came to me.
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: He was like, and you just do the kick better,
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: and and I thought okay, and so I started doing that.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: And then one time I just sat in the corner
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: and it was taking a little bit, so I felt
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: like I needed to do something, so I started stomping
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: and everything, just for me in my career, they just
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: sort of naturally happened. Doors kind of opened that I
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: kind of walked through, and I would stumble into something
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: pretty innovative, and uh, none of it was ever by
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: plan or by straight out execution.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: I was fortunate enough to come about most.
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: Of this stuff organically, and I think that's what made
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: it feel so real to the people because it.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Was now My favy one of all time is we
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: have a thelm minute show tipic we say lay you
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: to death.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Typically at bath and it comes after that when you
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: hear we're flairing with that I love you.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what was that moment? Like man especially worked
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: for somebody you was tapped in early.
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well that again, that that's one that I'm thinking
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: about it and the match on an emotional level for
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: me and Rick and I were so close and you
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: are now finding yourself friends with this guy you watched
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: for so many years. And I remember it was probably
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: a week before the match, and my buddy from high school, Kenny,
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: calls me and he was saying, like, oh my goodness,
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: I can't believe you're wrestling Rick Flair WrestleMania. You've ever
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: thought about that when we were fifteen in my mom's
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: house watching him on TV, And that just took me
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: back to that time. And you know, later on that night,
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: I wake up in the middle of the night and
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: this idea of the end of the match just comes
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: to me and I start writing it down, and all
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: of a sudden, I know, it's very weird because it's
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: you know, it's pro wrestling.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know lives.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: I don't know, like, you know, the world's not waiting
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: for the professional wrestling business to save it, you know,
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: you know, to show it the future, but it was
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: so personal and emotional to me.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: I thought it was really cool and special.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: But sometimes you worry that you're the only one thinking that,
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: And I wasn't sure if at that time time that
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: would tap into the emotion of all the wrestling fans
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: out there. But thankfully, at that time, I think in
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: that moment, we took every person in the crowd back
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: to when they first fell in love with wrestling in
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: that moment, and that's what made it work, and that's
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: what made it resonate so much. But the people is that,
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: no matter how cynical we can all get, in that moment,
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: they all remembered the first time they became a wrestling fan,
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: and it meant something to him.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a huge moment of vulnabilly despite everything
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: that was going on in the moment where that was
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: an iconic thing that happened, especially when it happened.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: No, we talked about this all the time. One of
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: my favorite matches from you, You and Bray hart Man. Yeah,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: iconic match.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: What was that like? Man at high stage?
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Everybody, Yeah, especially at that time period, I was two
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: of the most regardinated the business.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Do you remember much from that situation.
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, so the first thing is there's nobody you
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: want to be out there with him. You're having to
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: do an hour. No better person to be out there
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: with than Brett Hart. So he and I felt very
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: comfortable about doing it. The thing that I'm most proud of,
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: and I say this all the time, is that we
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: were willing to take the risk. That was sort of
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: a time in the business where you were kind of
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: feeling like things were going to change.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: But also and it's sort of moving towards that more fast.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: Paced type match idea, and here we are having to
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: go out there and do an hour and it's not
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: as if, very different than the match. The hour match
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: I had with John Cena many years later. People didn't
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: know that one was going an hour, and so you're
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: able to suspend the disbelief in a different kind of way.
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: Your match psychology can be different when they don't know
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: you're going an hour, but when they know it's going
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: to go an hour, it's very difficult. And it was
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: a big risk at that time. So I was very
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: proud of the match just from that standpoint, and there
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: was nobody that I would rather be out there doing
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: that with the Brett Hart, and so we knew that
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: we'd be able to. We wanted to put on what
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: we felt was a wrestling clinic, and to this day,
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: some people will argue it's not their favorite, but uh,
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: I'm still very proud of that matches. I thought what
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: he and I did was really special. We went, you know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: we went the full hour and then had the overtime
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: in it, and it was just something that again first
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: time guys, first time doing that kind of match on
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: a pay per view.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Very proud of everything and how it turned out.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard for us to our episode, let
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: alone to wrestle for an.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: Hour through torture. Bro, that is crazy.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: I gotta I love the some of my favorite measures
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: when you you know, you went away for a while,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: you came back and you're an Undertaker, had some of
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: the greatest wrestling matches I ever seen, man, and some
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: of the rise that you took that were the crowd
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: on the Undertaker and tapping out and kicking out at
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: certain times.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: It was an amazing experience to watch that.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: And recently I went back and watched some of those
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: matches cause you speak about someone those wrestlmating in moments
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: with the Undertaker.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: Sure, well, it all started early on in our career.
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: Both of us were you know, he was obviously had
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: this unbelievable character. I've got easily a polar opposite character,
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: and unbeknownst to us at the time that we found
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: out later in our careers, but at one time, it
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: was spoken within the creative forces at the time that
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: Shawn Michaels and the Undertaker would never wrestle because people
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: just won't They won't be able to believe that there's
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: no way that the heartbreak kid could hang with the Undertaker.
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: But then from a company standpoint, you sort of get
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: yourself into a situation where, well, that's one of the
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: only places we haven't gone. And so back in well,
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: you know, i'd say early or late ninety six ninety seven,
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: we start to have a few matches, and man, anytime
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: he and I got in the ring with each other,
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: natural chemistry, it was just magic. Every time, you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: I got in there and matched up with one another.
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: And again, unbeknown to us, we didn't know that they
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: didn't ever want that, well, we knew.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: It was like holy cow. Every time we're in the
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: ring together.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: It's not only fantastic, but it's a piece of cake
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: to do because the story is just so darnise. He's
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: for two characters that they didn't think would match up,
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: meshed together seamlessly, and and then we you know, so
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: we had it culminated with the Helen a Cell match
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: early on and that was just.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Blast.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: It was just it was so so much fun. We
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: went out there, We had like fifty some odd minutes.
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: I can I can remember before we went out. You know,
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: at that time, it's pay per view and you have
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: to make it to the end of the pay per
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: view time, and we had way more time left in
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: the pay per view than we were supposed to have.
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: And I can remember looking at Daker and from a
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: distance and going, we've got like fifty five minutes left
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: in pay per view time.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Damn.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: We're like, what are we gonna do? And he looked
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: at me, I'll walk slough.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: Then I was like, I you know, it was like
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: another that was his way of saying, don't worry about it,
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: We're gonna do our thing. And and yeah, we went
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: out there and just had a fantastic match. You fast
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: forward and I'm sorry I'm long winded here, but you
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: fast forward all the years later to the WrestleMania matches. Again,
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: both he and I personally and professionally very different early
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: on and then later on in our careers, just absolutely
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: adored one another, a friendship that you know, I value
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: so much. So we were just at such a different
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: place personally with one another, and it's crazy to think
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: that the chemistry could get better than it once was,
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: but it did, and we went out there and had
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: those two WrestleMania matches, and again, between both of those,
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: those were the ones that let me know it's okay
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: to go. It's it's you know you can. You've done
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: everything you needed to do, and Uh, and what I've
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: learned in all those years past, that's the best send
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: off you can get to be at peace with yourself
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: when you leave this stuff, as I'm sure you guys
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: are leaving anything. If you feel complete with what you've done,
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: you know what you've given, you've received out of it
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: what you want, and you can walk away peacefully. It
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: was the best gift I ever got. And Uh, like
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: I said, it's something that we're both extremely proud of
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: to this day. And and proud of the fact that
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: it's something that people remember for a long long time.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Absolutely made and it's crazy like you as an individual,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: you as a part of a conglomerate. We was always
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: talking about the culture, like wrestling. The culture has been
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: so synonymous recently, but for you to be like, for
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: you to walk out and see people your merch, like,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: what's that feeling?
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Light?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Still to this day people still hold you out a
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: hoigh regard. Maybe kids don't even know who you are,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: but they know who HdK is.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: What's that light? Especially an event like this where everybody
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: endors you, Well.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: It is you really.
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: So with social media and dreaming, and I would have
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: never imagined at sixty going on sixty one that, for instance,
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: somebody like a sexy red make me seriously, would make
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: me relevant. Yet sure, just late in my life. You
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: know again, I'm an old man and I'm I'm and
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: I'm I had some swagger and some aura, as you
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: kids say back in the nineties, real aura. But it
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: was but it was because I was app you know,
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: I was. I was an absolute train wreck and I
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: was a menace that played well thankfully on television. Well,
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: but but I came back in two thousand and two,
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: and everything, Oh, I was just a I'm a nerd, I'm.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: A dad, I'm boring, I'm all of those things. And
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: the idea that he's still cool, that character is still
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: cool all these.
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: Years later, and sometimes arguably maybe even cooler. I mean,
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: it's amazing to me. I have to be honest, I didn't.
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: I didn't realize that HBK and that swagger and that
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: cockiness and that confidence resonated so well.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just so many people.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: I guess I just you know something, I guess when
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: you're in it, you're not you know, you're sort of
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: in this bubble and you don't have the opportunity to
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: see beyond that. And now I, at least I'm able
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: to take the time, I guess, to be that and
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: to notice that. And you go you think to yourself, like, well, damn,
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: that's pretty cool.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: You hope to see you get your firelight.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: It's a video you walking down the ramp, obviously get
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: ready for a match, and somebody likes drink at you.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: You just kind of flick her here.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: They were just like kids, I know this is real,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: or like this is not stage? Is just what he
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: was on every day. So to see that, like you say,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: you got kids and they buy it with HBK in
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: front of that, like you and their birth. The generation
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: of people with that type of swag.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Man, how does that say? How did that sexy red
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: link up happen? Man? How do you even cross paths? Bro?
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: It was just from from her social that she put out.
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: It was just I think the first one was her
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: playing my song in the background and the h and
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: smoking one while she was doing it.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: It's great marketing standing.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: I don't know, will not condone.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: The show, but.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: Uh, and yeah, it just sort of went from there.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: And and then of course, uh, you know, she would
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: play highlights of me, you know, doing my spret and
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: doing my taking stuff like that during so many of
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: her songs.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: And after that, we just thought we got to reach
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: out to her and I needed.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: I was just curious if she was if it was
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: just something she did out of fun or she was
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: really a fan. And after that, I don't know, she said,
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: we invited her, We had a great time. She was
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: just wonderful with us, and we continue, you know, she
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: continues to include me just out of the goodness of
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: her heart. I guess and I don't know. It's absolutely
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: a fun little uh partnership that we have.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: That's burden of the gap right there.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know me.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: Again, and it is those are things once again, never
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: tried to execute. It wasn't a plan. It's just one
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: of those things that's falling you out and I feel
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: like it's a door open and it is. It's all
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: very genuine.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because I'm.
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: I'm I'm you know, I'm almost sixty one, but I
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: am still a kid at heart, absolutely never grown up.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: That's why I feel so good about what I do
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: with NXT.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: Again.
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: I still have a you know, a joyful spirit in
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: my life. Uh and uh, you know those kids keep
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: me young and you know they're they're passionate. What we
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: do in NXT is still the purest form of what
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: it is we do. It's before you know, it's before
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: it becomes all of this. It comes, you know, business
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: and making money, which is all understandable because this is
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: life changing stuff that can go on. But in NXC,
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: it's the responsibility that we take seriously, but we have
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: fun while we're doing it and do our best to
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: equip them to be ready for moments like this and
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: weekends like this or wrestle Amima.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you that I know some of
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the AST fans a little mad right now, they trying
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: to get sect you were in the Mets.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, I hope this stuff is not not
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: easy to do.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: I think there.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: I think somebody might have actually asked her about it
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: at one time. But no, I we would never uh
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: I would. I would never encourage her to to try
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: this stuff just because it isn't the easiest stuff in
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: the world.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: Non Oswell work, What hobbies did you have outside of wrestling?
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: Man? Like?
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: How did you balance like home life and the wrestling life.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: That was one of the problems early on.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: I didn't have anything one my focus right, and I
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: had no idea who I was away from it. Thankfully again,
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: when I when I met my wife and our children,
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: they obviously became a huge part of that. But also,
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: you know, believe it or not, hunting, fishing, getting out
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: doing just that. Learning life, how to live to have
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: something outside of that outside of this was a learning
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: process for me. It was something that I had to
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: do and it's something that to this day I still
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: make sure that I, you know, take time for that.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: You know again, it's something.
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: You know, we go on little vacations as a family,
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: My wife and I go to the beach.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: I'm very much into you know, true crime and drama
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: and stuff like that.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Happy what's all you be watching?
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: Man?
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Say? True Carl? What what some of I SBK Fight
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: Resulting TV?
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  Speaker 5: All right?
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  Speaker 6: I watched I watched almost non stop the I V
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  Speaker 6: Channel Walk out to my house, you know, the snap
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  Speaker 6: Donat Oh yeah, yeah on h L and the forensic yeah,
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  Speaker 6: everything that. I'm yeah, I just think that's I don't know. Uh,
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  Speaker 6: it's like you just gotta tell that, you know, the
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: husband's out there. I gotta look at you first, stop
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  Speaker 6: doing You're not gonna You're not gonna get away. And
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: then you can't you can't fill out the big life
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  Speaker 6: insured and then do something like seven days later. Still,
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  Speaker 6: I'll be damned if they still try to give it
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  Speaker 6: a world because they're going to be the ones that
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: can get away with that.
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  Speaker 4: Now. I'm fine, Sorry, I'm joking. No violence.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: It's crazy, but I would have loved HBK long order
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: came out. That would have been crazy as a huge.
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  Speaker 4: HBK would have been fired for sure.
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  Speaker 5: For sure. Well you be nice to be on the
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  Speaker 5: good site.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. I got to ask you before we get
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: out of here about the click.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: So I was a skyhall raising my mom fan, come
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: on man all the time, favorite wrestler. But you know
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Kevin Nash, big sexy, the Diezel, you got a triple
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: h you also got X pox.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: What was that connection like? Being part of the click?
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: And so that was real friendship really when and here's
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: the thing.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: It might have helped. Hunter was probably the only one
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: that was.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: Uh more so grounded than who he was. But he
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: wasn't preachy and he would never judge any of us,
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: and who knows, I don't know that we would have
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: listened even if he did. But they were at least
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: the people that I could talk to about the things
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: you might have been struggling with. You could get real
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: with those guys and talk about for me anyway, I
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: don't know some of the fears, the you know, vulnerabilities,
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: And they didn't mock or make fun of me to
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: try to you know, at the very least, I don't
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: know we would. They helped me escape from him, and
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: maybe not in the healthiest way, but they were still
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: my friends. Kevin Nash didn't know me from Adam and
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: he went in, you know, kind of exaggerated the truth
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: to get his release from w CW and picked up
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: and came up and hitched his wagon to me without
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: ever knowing me, not speaking a word to me, and
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: about one trust in me, you know, for his career
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  Speaker 6: and his livelihood, and was a buddy to me from
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: day one.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: And and so I don't know, that just meant so
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: much to me.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: And then Scott and I we knew each other in
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: Kansas City, that's when we first met and then got
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: to re establish our relationship in WW and you know,
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: we were you know, two train wrecks, but we were
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: also two guys again, very emotional and guys kind of
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: you know, struggle with some of the maybe I don't know,
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: more common things in life that people struggle with.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: So we could at least drown our sorrows with each other.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: And and like you said, Hunter was just a guy
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: that again he liked the idea that we were one hundred,
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: all of us dedicated to the business and getting better.
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: And because he was, as everyone says, a student of
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: the game. We that's all we all thought about. We
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: were with each other more than we were with anybody else,
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: and we all just leaned on each other when you know,
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: when we were doing this, we were on the road
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: three hundred days at that time in our teams, and
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: we were with each other. Waltman came in at a
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: young age. We snatched him up right away. I didn't
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: even know that we gave.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: Poor kid a choice, perfectly honest.
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: He came in, you know, on one time and we said,
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: you're riding with us, and I think he was probably
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: just afraid to say no. He guys stuck with us
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: ever since. But I'm I'm so honored that it's, you know,
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: to be I don't know, to have a friendship like that.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: That still goes on to this day.
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: And even though you know, you know the types of
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: friends you have, but you don't have to see each
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: other all the time. But when you do, you pick
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: up right where you left off as something that you
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: know last for the you know, eternity and for the
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: rest of your lives.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: I well said, the which you being over n x T.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Was it, like you said, you pouring into those young
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: guys to see them come to this stage of some
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: of those guys being able to be at WrestleMania.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: What's that like for you? Obviously putting in the work
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: to see those guys flours and.
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: That's that's why you do it. Yes, it really is.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: This is the biggest reason. I I mentioned it on
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: another interview. Kind of done a lot of these, done
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: a lot of WrestleMania's always honored to come out and
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: certainly represent an XT, But the most enjoyable part is
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: watching Lash and Jordan trick mellow Oba and watch them
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: not just be a part of WrestleMania Weekend, but be
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: a big part main WrestleMania Weekend and watching them go
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: out and enjoy that that moment out there and know
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: that this is just the beginning. Yeah, very excited for them,
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: And it really is. That's it's the reason when we
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: do that, because they do they put a lot of
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: trust in us at the Performance Center in Orlando, and
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: it's so awesome when we see the fruits of our
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: labor and the fruits of their labor go out there
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: and culminate in something that is this big and the special.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now listen, two things we're excited to let be
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: here attacking with Alba. Yeah, that's for Brock Lesnar. He's
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: not too from Maria, so I'm excited for him to
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: see that specially came up.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: Through the n XC.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was one.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: Of you guys.
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was a shot putterer at the University of attlmanmaw.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: Picture of him.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: He should have been playing.
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: Well, but again and Oba Trick and Javon Wi all
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: very different but all so special and unique.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: And I don't know.
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: To me, it's just great because it's such a diverse
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: but accurate representation of NXC. And then you've got Lash
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: and Jordan over there with the l eighties. That is
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: also a great representation because you have these people that
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: some had some indie experience, but that others just came
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: straight from college. They're all just and none of them
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: are the same. They're not cookie cutter, all very different
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: and but all still equally a special and the Skuy's
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: the limit for all of them. And we're very excited
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: that this WrestleMania uh is kind of going to be
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: their launching past.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Now listen, last wrestle may we try to like it
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: in now we got you here. We're trying to get
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: be here in the world experience in Orlando man, were
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: trying to get be here in the rock.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: They get some training. How we feel it?
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, I need I need to get in there, man,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: get my body together.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Well, look all you have
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: to do. You know we have we have people here,
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: give us, give us a call.
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys are welcome and invited anytime to come on.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I always wanted to know what that experience is like.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: And then how do you choose, like, I don't know.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: How do you know when they reached, they peak and
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: n they seed to send them over this way.
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: Well that's that's a a collaboration between uh, you know
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: one hundred and nine main Roster and and NXC. A
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: lot of it is the week. We can have people
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: that aren't ready, maybe we feel but they need people,
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: They need a certain so weird it's it all depends
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: on if if there's a role they need to feel
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: sort of like you know, no different than any sport.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: Holy cow, I need a quarterback. One of our guys
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: went down. I need a quarterback to have so many quarterbacks.
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: But if our linement went down, you know, what do
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: you what if you guys got who do you think
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: is ghost ready swere. There could be times when again
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: they just feel like we want something fresh, something new.
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: They are they can they can come in kind of
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: like what they just did recently. And I don't want
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: to say clean us out, but it's a you know,
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: maybe a spring clean.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: It's not not a not a total overhaul. It very
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: but we have to be ready.
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: Uh short of like the Marines. You gotta be ready
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: whenever they call you. You gotta jump on a jump on
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: a plane and get ready to go.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Gotcha, man, this has been a special moment for us.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Man, legendary mom for me and my guys as well.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Shout to our family at boost Mobile. Shouts to stock
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  Speaker 1: x Man, shout the hard rock back our guys, h
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: b K. We appreciate you. You got something before we
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: got out here.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: They want to do the TikTok dance. Is a TikTok
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: dance supposed were going on. Man, oh oh, malk corner.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Now he's a wrestling love right here. My god, Malo, man,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: he would have happened with cose it if possible.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Man, crying right, some of the stupid stuff right here.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: Clearly I'm not a good judge of anything, so I
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: try anything one you like, The club five.
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  Speaker 1: The volume