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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, January 7 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It's Thursday, January seventh. This is Jack Wars Happy Hour
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Speaker 1: and now a guy who coined the phrase Sean who
0:14
Speaker 1: j that wasn't me? Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on
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Speaker 1: a Thursday. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logaman coming up, left,
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Speaker 1: Tony Basely busy show today, like going on in Jaguar Land.
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Speaker 1: A lot j meetings going on at city Council. Will
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Speaker 1: stay off of that for the most part today, but
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Speaker 1: a lot of football things happening, and yes, head coach
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Speaker 1: and GM searches continue, as does the search for a
0:43
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. That search could be coming to an end
0:46
Speaker 1: in April. We'll touch on the big name that came
0:50
Speaker 1: out for the draft earlier this week, Tony Ball at
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Speaker 1: four thirty today, fresh off a meeting with Snoop Dogg. Yes,
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Speaker 1: we will get his thoughts on that and much more
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Speaker 1: around the Jaguars from the Hall of Fame finalists. And
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Speaker 1: then the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on the
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Speaker 1: network at five o'clock. Jeff Loghman with us now and
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Speaker 1: here we go logs the offseasons here a long season
1:14
Speaker 1: of football, fifteen straight losses, but it's in the rear view.
1:18
Speaker 1: Now we don't have to worry about that anymore. It's
1:20
Speaker 1: all about the future now, Yeah, it is. Everybody's looking
1:25
Speaker 1: forward to the decision making and the positions that are
1:28
Speaker 1: going to be filled with great anticipation. But just to
1:31
Speaker 1: take a moment, JP, I know you and I both
1:34
Speaker 1: have enjoyed working with Doug Moron and UH, and we've
1:38
Speaker 1: had had many many good moments with Doug, and and
1:41
Speaker 1: appreciate his willingness to participate and he was always great
1:45
Speaker 1: to us and UH, and nobody wanted this football team
1:48
Speaker 1: to win more, to win more than Doug. And so
1:51
Speaker 1: I appreciate him, I really do. And I wish him
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Speaker 1: the best. I wish his family the best, and I
1:56
Speaker 1: know that he's gonna land on his feed, okay, But
1:59
Speaker 1: I just wanted to put that out there because, uh,
2:02
Speaker 1: you know, the position that kind of we're in and
2:05
Speaker 1: working with coaches and stuff. I mean, there has to
2:07
Speaker 1: be a relationship and it has to be on on
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Speaker 1: both sides, and we have to give, and Doug has
2:13
Speaker 1: to give to be able to make this entertaining and
2:15
Speaker 1: informative for the listeners, and and Doug was willing to
2:18
Speaker 1: do that. And I really appreciate Doug for that, no doubt,
2:21
Speaker 1: and the best to him and Helen and the kids.
2:23
Speaker 1: And I'm sure I'm gonna guess he's probably on some
2:26
Speaker 1: voyage somewhere just to get away for a little bit.
2:29
Speaker 1: And then, like you said, I think he will end
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Speaker 1: on his feet sooner rather than later as a position
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Speaker 1: coach really whatever he wants to be in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: I think there will be options for him in this league. Yeah,
2:43
Speaker 1: when when you sign up to be a coach, I mean,
2:45
Speaker 1: make no mistake about it that you know that things
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Speaker 1: are are going to change. I mean that's just the
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Speaker 1: nature of the business. And it doesn't matter whether you're
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Speaker 1: at the pro level, whether you're at the collegiate level.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna change. And and so it's not unexpected. But
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Speaker 1: I think the hard part is is being able to
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Speaker 1: adjust and adapt in the family at that at home
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Speaker 1: and because you know, look, uh, kids want to grow
3:11
Speaker 1: up and you've got a lot of uh pure I
3:14
Speaker 1: don't want to say pressure, but pure criticism. Oh, you know,
3:17
Speaker 1: they want to have an opinion about your dad and
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Speaker 1: about the football team, and and sometimes it can be
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Speaker 1: flat out mean. And and so the kids of coaches
3:26
Speaker 1: sometimes have to put up with a lot and and
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Speaker 1: the wives of coaches have to put up with a
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Speaker 1: lot and uh and so a little a little bit
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Speaker 1: of uh kudos to the coaches wives and kids because
3:40
Speaker 1: it's never easy to go through a change and uh.
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Speaker 1: And even though that it's expected at that position, sometimes
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Speaker 1: it's still very hard for the family members. So of course,
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Speaker 1: that was Monday morning. Doug Marone was re lead of
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Speaker 1: his duties about nine o'clock and then around ten thirty
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Speaker 1: Jaguars owner's shot con met with the media for the
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Speaker 1: first time in a long time, discussing everything football related.
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Speaker 1: And now two openings on the football side. The general
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Speaker 1: manager gig has been open for a little bit now
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Speaker 1: and now the head coach uh job is open as
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Speaker 1: well for the Jaguars. And one of his comments will
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Speaker 1: hear a few of them throughout the show here of course,
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Speaker 1: But how will this flow chart work for the Jacksonville
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Speaker 1: Jaguars was Shotgun at the top. A key thing how
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Speaker 1: you know we would be structuring this is that I'm
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Speaker 1: going to have the general manager and the head coach
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Speaker 1: report directly to me. And that way, really, you know,
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Speaker 1: you have the transparency and the needs and the concerns
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Speaker 1: of both parties without really getting filtered or having a
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Speaker 1: chain of command. So um, and that's really what necessitates
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Speaker 1: that you basically hire them about the same time. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And really you have a perfect alignment, which you need
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Speaker 1: in a winning organization. So there you have a Jaguars
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Speaker 1: owners shot con earlier this week on Monday discussing that
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Speaker 1: float chart. And you know, I don't know of many
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Speaker 1: organizations that do it like that. But to have equal
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Speaker 1: conversation with the GM and the head coach equals status,
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Speaker 1: equals say and separately to the owner. Uh, it eliminates
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Speaker 1: any uh finger pointing or any of that kind of thing.
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Speaker 1: If if Shan Khan is the ultimate judge, yeah, JP,
5:26
Speaker 1: I think that that's set up actually exists, uh more
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Speaker 1: than you think in the National Football League because general
5:33
Speaker 1: managers for the most part aren't allowed to just hire
5:36
Speaker 1: and fire the head coach willy nilly or because they
5:40
Speaker 1: wake up on the wrong side of the bed. I mean,
5:42
Speaker 1: they still have to gain approval from ownership. So I
5:47
Speaker 1: think that's probably more common than anything in the National
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Speaker 1: Football League. And for me, it makes sense. You know,
5:52
Speaker 1: if if an interesting statement there when he says that
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Speaker 1: you know, there's no filter that way. Well, I think
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Speaker 1: sometimes is that that What can happen is that if
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Speaker 1: you have a general manager who hires a head coach,
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Speaker 1: and the chain of command works as the coach reports
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Speaker 1: of the general manager and then the general manager reports
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Speaker 1: to the owner, then this filter that I think Shod
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Speaker 1: is referring to can mean that, Look, the general manager
6:19
Speaker 1: might think that the players on this football team are
6:22
Speaker 1: good enough to win and that's the coach's fault, and
6:24
Speaker 1: coaches are not doing a good enough job, and uh
6:27
Speaker 1: coach says that I'm doing a great job with personnel.
6:30
Speaker 1: Well maybe that's not what the coach is saying, and
6:32
Speaker 1: the coach is saying, look, you know, look, I gotta
6:34
Speaker 1: have better players to win, And so the filter is
6:38
Speaker 1: removed because the coach would report directly an ownership. I
6:41
Speaker 1: think it's the only way to set it up. And
6:44
Speaker 1: and most importantly, the owner has to be involved from
6:47
Speaker 1: the standpoint of because if he's not, then there's a
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Speaker 1: lack of accountability. And I think there has to be accountability.
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Speaker 1: And by dividing enough to where the coach and the
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Speaker 1: general manager both report to the to the owner, but
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Speaker 1: both of them now have to be accountable, and so
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Speaker 1: I think it's the only way to set things up
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Speaker 1: in the National Football League to have success. Unless you
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Speaker 1: have a general manager like an Ozzie Newsome, who you
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Speaker 1: completely respect and completely trust and who has a proven
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Speaker 1: track record, the last thing in the world that you
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Speaker 1: want to do is to hire a general manager. Which
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Speaker 1: hiring a general manager is not easy to do JP
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Speaker 1: and what we can get into this a little bit further,
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Speaker 1: but think about it, how do you how do you
7:31
Speaker 1: go about finding out if a general manager is good
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Speaker 1: at what he does when he's never done it before.
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Speaker 1: If you hire somebody that's green, you don't. So why
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Speaker 1: should that general manager have more power than the coach?
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Speaker 1: Which it's a lot easier to find a track record
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Speaker 1: with a coach than it is to find a track
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Speaker 1: record with a general manager, Right, And we saw that
7:56
Speaker 1: last time around with Dave Colde's his first time as
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Speaker 1: the GM, and you know, you just don't know how
8:02
Speaker 1: things are gonna go, how picks are gonna go, and
8:04
Speaker 1: you have to go play the games and the coaching
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Speaker 1: changes and everything that happened here in those what eight years.
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Speaker 1: He was almost almost wish that if if you're if
8:15
Speaker 1: you have a job in personnel. And because we've seen
8:19
Speaker 1: how the management council and the group that they put
8:23
Speaker 1: together and they put recommendations together for guys to get
8:28
Speaker 1: jobs for me, why don't they have a personnel pot
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Speaker 1: When I say a personnel pots, Okay, So everybody that's
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Speaker 1: in the personnel department around the league that has aspirations
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Speaker 1: of becoming a future general management, why don't they put
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Speaker 1: together their own their own separate draft board, put their
8:48
Speaker 1: name on it, Okay, and it just gets put into
8:50
Speaker 1: a file every year and nobody looks at it because
8:54
Speaker 1: you don't want to end up sharing that information because
8:56
Speaker 1: then obviously you could compromise certain draft for But if
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Speaker 1: everybody as an individual, the director of College personnel, the
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Speaker 1: director of pro personnel, the director, the head of West
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Speaker 1: Texas Scouting, I mean, whoever whoever wants to put in
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Speaker 1: their list of the draft and put their draft order
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Speaker 1: on a sheet of paper before the draft, turn it in.
9:18
Speaker 1: And then when the candidates start becoming available, ownership can
9:22
Speaker 1: go and say, you know what we're looking at hiring
9:24
Speaker 1: Joe Schmo. Well, let's pull up Joe Schmo's list over
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Speaker 1: the last five years and how he ranked the draft
9:30
Speaker 1: and compared to how the drafts have turned out. So
9:33
Speaker 1: that way you'd end up having some information about how
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Speaker 1: good personnel people are at number one picking players because
9:41
Speaker 1: the last time I check, that's the most important job
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Speaker 1: description for the position as general managers because it's a
9:47
Speaker 1: player driven league. And so for me uh in in ownership,
9:52
Speaker 1: why wouldn't they help themselves and hiring people and have
9:56
Speaker 1: them do that on an annual basis, And then you
9:59
Speaker 1: can have so type of history to be able to
10:02
Speaker 1: look at and say, this guy really knows his stuff.
10:04
Speaker 1: For this guy he doesn't know anything. He's terrible one
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Speaker 1: of the other. You know how it is though in
10:10
Speaker 1: in the business, it's who you know to get you
10:13
Speaker 1: in the doory stuff, do the job and do it well,
10:15
Speaker 1: but you still have to have those contacts to get
10:18
Speaker 1: in the room. Look at Houston, for goodness sakes, what
10:20
Speaker 1: happened down there because Serio got hired by basically easterby.
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Speaker 1: They had a search firm and everything, and it's the
10:27
Speaker 1: New England connection that got basically that job. From all reports. Yeah,
10:32
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that that's not gonna work for
10:35
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. I mean, maybe it will, right, but
10:38
Speaker 1: that's lie. That's life. That's not just football. That's real
10:40
Speaker 1: life too. That happens everywhere, absolutely absolutely. I mean it
10:44
Speaker 1: may work, it may not. I don't I don't know
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Speaker 1: the answer to that. But it's very odd that you
10:48
Speaker 1: hire a firm to give you a list of names
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the one that you
10:53
Speaker 1: hire is not on that list. I just find that
10:56
Speaker 1: really curious. And uh, I think there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: people in league circles that are looking at that situation.
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Speaker 1: And I don't want to say that the Texans are
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Speaker 1: the laughing stock of the league, because eventually the truth
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Speaker 1: and and the record will speak for itself. But there's
11:12
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the league and that are
11:14
Speaker 1: around the league to cover the league that are looking
11:16
Speaker 1: at that and sitting there kind of scoffing under their breath.
11:20
Speaker 1: I need to start my own search firm. I'd make
11:22
Speaker 1: a lot more money lugs. We'll call it the what
11:25
Speaker 1: should we call it? The JP Search Firm? Right? Right?
11:29
Speaker 1: That's catch up. Let me tell you that'll bring them
11:32
Speaker 1: in right exactly like that. Um, So that's the way
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Speaker 1: it is. So the obviously the interviews are have gone
11:43
Speaker 1: on are going on for both roles really simultaneously. As
11:46
Speaker 1: you heard Mr Khan there say earlier. Ideally you hire
11:50
Speaker 1: them pretty close together, so they are tied together, and
11:52
Speaker 1: they whoever is hired first probably has a little bit
11:55
Speaker 1: of a say and the other person vice versa. That's
11:57
Speaker 1: probably how this will work. Yeah, I think that uh
12:01
Speaker 1: and and Sean talked about that, and he said that,
12:04
Speaker 1: you know, ultimately, do you like to do it together
12:06
Speaker 1: because you if you're a general manager, you want to
12:10
Speaker 1: know who the coach is gonna be, And if you're
12:12
Speaker 1: a coach, you want to know who the general manager
12:15
Speaker 1: is going to be. And you'd like to have maybe
12:18
Speaker 1: some familiarity there to where there's gonna be a real
12:21
Speaker 1: positive working uh. Two guys working together, a little bit
12:25
Speaker 1: of energy and synergy. And so that's the in a
12:28
Speaker 1: perfect world. But at the end of the day, if
12:31
Speaker 1: you have all of a sudden you've got what you
12:34
Speaker 1: think is the best candidate at either position general manager
12:38
Speaker 1: or head coach, and you're not quite sure what you're
12:41
Speaker 1: gonna do with the other and there's another team that's
12:44
Speaker 1: sitting there offering the guy that you love and the
12:47
Speaker 1: guy saying Hey, look, I really want to work for you,
12:50
Speaker 1: but I've got this offer and I've got to take
12:52
Speaker 1: care of my family. So you need either there's a
12:55
Speaker 1: term and it's uh uh kind of pooper, get off
12:59
Speaker 1: the pot. And so if if that happens, then the
13:03
Speaker 1: team needs to move, then you got to move. But
13:05
Speaker 1: in a in a perfect world, like Shot said, you'd
13:07
Speaker 1: like to be able to hire him together so that
13:09
Speaker 1: there is the energy that's created together and one knows
13:13
Speaker 1: who the other is and they're gonna be working together,
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Speaker 1: So obviously you want to have kind of the approval
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Speaker 1: of both of them in that situations. Out and now,
13:20
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13:25
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13:30
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13:34
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13:36
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17:45
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18:03
Speaker 1: looking at it. Welcome back Jaguar's happy hour. That's Jaguars
18:08
Speaker 1: owners shot Khan Monday morning. When asked who is helping
18:12
Speaker 1: you with the search for GM and head coaching J P. Shadrick,
18:16
Speaker 1: with the Jeff Logham, we are we are not among
18:19
Speaker 1: those in that group. I'll say that Jeff, you're looking
18:23
Speaker 1: at it. I love that line. Uh, And and so
18:26
Speaker 1: it should be. Look, he's the owner of the football team,
18:28
Speaker 1: and and that gives him the right to make the decisions.
18:31
Speaker 1: And I think, uh that he has learned a lot
18:35
Speaker 1: and I think he will make a better decision this
18:37
Speaker 1: time around. And obviously the decision was influenced from a
18:40
Speaker 1: lot of input that he got the first time around.
18:44
Speaker 1: And and he's right. I mean, after a while of
18:46
Speaker 1: being an owner in the National Football League, you have
18:48
Speaker 1: a an ability to learn, and he's a very smart man.
18:51
Speaker 1: Otherwise he wouldn't be as successful as he has been.
18:55
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that he's going to apply some of
18:58
Speaker 1: the the recipes that have gotten him where he is
19:02
Speaker 1: in the automotive parts business and apply that to what
19:05
Speaker 1: what he knows now about football and work to make
19:08
Speaker 1: that a success because I look at he wants to win.
19:11
Speaker 1: I mean, make no mistake about it. When you commit
19:14
Speaker 1: any resource that is necessary for the success of a
19:17
Speaker 1: football team, and trust me when I say this, there
19:20
Speaker 1: is nothing that has ever been asked for by coaches
19:25
Speaker 1: or staff that has ever been turned down by Shan
19:28
Speaker 1: Khan as it relates to the success of this team
19:31
Speaker 1: on the field. And that's pretty amazing because that's not
19:33
Speaker 1: how it always is around the National Football League. Actually,
19:36
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19:39
Speaker 1: some of the folks that might be in Ohio and
19:42
Speaker 1: h Cincinnati mainly, and and you will find out that
19:46
Speaker 1: there are other owners that aren't quite as willing to
19:48
Speaker 1: spend to be able to get results. But Shot Khan
19:52
Speaker 1: is not one of them in that category. He is
19:54
Speaker 1: very willing. One of the things that Mr Khan has
19:58
Speaker 1: learned and we all have learned if we didn't know,
20:01
Speaker 1: and now we certainly do know, that you need a
20:03
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback on your roster. And a few times Mr
20:09
Speaker 1: Cohn discussed this on Monday, and if you're watching on
20:13
Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com on the video portion of our broadcast today,
20:17
Speaker 1: you'll see them on your screen a couple of the
20:19
Speaker 1: excerpts from that. Um, you know, they have the ability
20:24
Speaker 1: now to make a choice and it's going to define
20:26
Speaker 1: the franchise moving forward. The last eight years we haven't
20:30
Speaker 1: had a franchise quarterback, So I think that's very important,
20:32
Speaker 1: said Mr Khan, So he he understands that, he gets it. Also,
20:37
Speaker 1: if there was any doubt at all what's gonna happen
20:39
Speaker 1: at number one overall, that's all gone now. Yeah, I
20:45
Speaker 1: think there's still I mean, is there a level of
20:47
Speaker 1: intrigue that could it not be Trevor Lawrence? Could could
20:52
Speaker 1: it be somebody different? I think that possibility is there.
20:57
Speaker 1: Is it likely, probably odd, but the possibility still exists.
21:02
Speaker 1: So the intrigue I think will well stare still carry
21:05
Speaker 1: on for a little bit. But I mean, I think,
21:07
Speaker 1: in my opinion, Trevor Lawrence is the guy. And and
21:10
Speaker 1: I've just started to watch a little film on him
21:12
Speaker 1: this week, and everything that I've seen so far has
21:15
Speaker 1: been JP has been fantastic. He's got the athleticism to
21:21
Speaker 1: move around the pocket, he has the athleticism to move
21:25
Speaker 1: out of the pocket. He has arm strength, he has accuracy,
21:29
Speaker 1: he has a coolness about him. I mean, there's very
21:32
Speaker 1: little that he doesn't do well. Uh. I haven't had
21:36
Speaker 1: the opportunity to watch some of the other quarterbacks, so
21:38
Speaker 1: I will and I will make this kind of a
21:40
Speaker 1: weekly report based on some of the film that I
21:43
Speaker 1: watched as as we head towards the month of April.
21:47
Speaker 1: There's a reason why everybody's been talking about number sixteen
21:50
Speaker 1: for Clemson since before he showed up in Clemson, South Carolina.
21:55
Speaker 1: He was the top high school player coming out and
21:58
Speaker 1: one of the top recruits, but he was going to
22:00
Speaker 1: Clempson the whole time. There was really not much of
22:02
Speaker 1: a debate. And then he gets to a Clemson and
22:05
Speaker 1: performs in a big, big way in National Championship in
22:09
Speaker 1: his first season there in eighteen. He was the offensive
22:13
Speaker 1: m v P of that National Championship game, the Heisman
22:17
Speaker 1: Trophy runner up this year. I don't know of many
22:19
Speaker 1: people that expected him to finish that high in the
22:22
Speaker 1: voting this year, but he did, and Clemson was in
22:26
Speaker 1: the playoff again this year. They lost, of course to
22:29
Speaker 1: Ohio State last week. But um, he's He's lived up
22:33
Speaker 1: to expectations and beyond already throughout his career, and it
22:37
Speaker 1: feels like everybody in the NFL thinks that's going to continue. Well,
22:42
Speaker 1: he's a winner and that's the most important thing about
22:45
Speaker 1: playing the position of quarterback is winning. And so that's
22:48
Speaker 1: what he's done, and he's done it at all levels.
22:50
Speaker 1: I think the thing that also makes him intriguing from
22:54
Speaker 1: a coaching standpoint and so attractive from a coaching standpoint,
22:58
Speaker 1: coaches love to have own quarterback that have mobility, and
23:03
Speaker 1: the reason they like that is that it allows them
23:06
Speaker 1: to do some things with a young quarterback to still
23:10
Speaker 1: have success but without effecting a young quarterback that completely
23:15
Speaker 1: operate from within the pocket. So in other words, look,
23:18
Speaker 1: you got a young player just like uh Kyl Murray
23:22
Speaker 1: is down in Arizona and all of a sudden he
23:26
Speaker 1: can't get to the third progression just because he's not
23:28
Speaker 1: mature enough and he's he's not experienced enough to do so.
23:32
Speaker 1: Then his legs allows him to scramble by time to
23:37
Speaker 1: maybe get to that third option or his fourth option
23:40
Speaker 1: or when it comes to scramble rules and all scheduled play.
23:43
Speaker 1: So coaches like that because it doesn't force somebody to
23:47
Speaker 1: sit in the pocket and to get hammered because they're
23:51
Speaker 1: not ready to get to that third progression yet. So coaches,
23:54
Speaker 1: I think, And if you were to ask any code
23:57
Speaker 1: look and she said, hey, look, you can have your
24:00
Speaker 1: choice of any type of young quarterback. What do you want?
24:03
Speaker 1: I mean, the first words out of their mouth was
24:05
Speaker 1: be I want a franchise quarterback. And then then they
24:07
Speaker 1: would start to talk about the traits and the traits
24:10
Speaker 1: I think arm strength, accuracy, smart, intelligent, and then probably
24:15
Speaker 1: when you get down past some of the obvious things,
24:17
Speaker 1: I think the coach will tell you mobility and the
24:20
Speaker 1: ability to create with the legs to be able to
24:22
Speaker 1: allow this young quarterback to have success while he's learning
24:25
Speaker 1: on the job. And uh, and I think that's great.
24:28
Speaker 1: I mean I think John Elway was a little bit
24:31
Speaker 1: that way and that he was mobile and could do
24:33
Speaker 1: things with his legs and tell he learned. Mark Burnell
24:35
Speaker 1: is another perfect example of a of a quarterback that
24:39
Speaker 1: is young and makes things happen with his legs and
24:42
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you lay over time he
24:44
Speaker 1: becomes more of a pocket passer and then relies more
24:47
Speaker 1: on his arm. And with Trevor, Lawrence the ability to
24:50
Speaker 1: run a lot of the read options stuff right out
24:52
Speaker 1: of the gate and which will get him on the
24:54
Speaker 1: field and plane and will make the offense multiple and
24:58
Speaker 1: multiple threats. Again the defense I think makes him very attractive.
25:02
Speaker 1: And are the other quarterbacks that are available to his
25:05
Speaker 1: level as far as having that type ability, I think
25:07
Speaker 1: they're pretty good, but I don't think they're at that level.
25:10
Speaker 1: Fields in Ohio State has that mobility as well. He's
25:14
Speaker 1: able to doesn't use it as much as Trevors does,
25:17
Speaker 1: but you know, Lawrence ran for five hundred sixty three
25:20
Speaker 1: yards that season. I mean that's that's a pretty significant
25:23
Speaker 1: number for a quarterback. Yeah, and you're and you're look,
25:26
Speaker 1: you're not looking for a guy that can be Lamar Jackson.
25:30
Speaker 1: I mean, it just doesn't mean that those guys don't
25:33
Speaker 1: come along very often. And and I think the expectation
25:36
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson right now is that now, oh my god,
25:39
Speaker 1: he's an absolute threat with his legs, but sooner or later,
25:42
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson has to learn to be better from the pocket.
25:46
Speaker 1: And because right now he has the reputation is that
25:48
Speaker 1: if he does not have a lead, he is not
25:50
Speaker 1: a good quarterback. And it makes him do something that
25:53
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to do, and it makes the offensive
25:55
Speaker 1: coordinator do things that they don't want to do. And
25:58
Speaker 1: so in a of the world like Lamar Jackson, Okay, look,
26:02
Speaker 1: he's running with great success his first two years. The
26:05
Speaker 1: next progression for him is to be better in the
26:07
Speaker 1: pocket and less rushing yards and become twice as many
26:11
Speaker 1: passing yards as as a quarterback. So and I think
26:14
Speaker 1: they look at Trevor Lawrence is athletic and and but
26:17
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of other great skill sets that
26:20
Speaker 1: are going to be very beneficial for any team and
26:23
Speaker 1: will he be a franchise guy. I hope so. I
26:25
Speaker 1: hope so because JP Unfortunately, we've seen first overall pick
26:30
Speaker 1: quarterback that have not worked out in NFL history. So there,
26:34
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything that you would call a
26:36
Speaker 1: sure thing, but he would certainly say that maybe he's
26:40
Speaker 1: as close to a shirt thing as possible, But again,
26:43
Speaker 1: there are no sure things. Well, I'll say this, Justin
26:46
Speaker 1: Fields put on a fantastic performance in the Sugar Bowl
26:49
Speaker 1: the other night, and Alabama will have his handsful if
26:52
Speaker 1: he's ready to go Monday with those ribs, he'll they'll
26:55
Speaker 1: have their hands full against. Justin Fields in the National
26:59
Speaker 1: Championship Game to six touchdowns, fighting through the rib injury
27:02
Speaker 1: and really showed a gutsy effort in that game. And
27:05
Speaker 1: he's flashed obviously all year. The two in that game
27:09
Speaker 1: last Friday. You know that that seems to be because
27:12
Speaker 1: he's throwing down fields so much and hitting all these
27:15
Speaker 1: deep plays. That's kind of where he's been a lot
27:17
Speaker 1: of the year. It's not like he's having to throw
27:19
Speaker 1: fifty times a game because they're they're blowing people out
27:22
Speaker 1: a lot of times when they play well. First off, Uh,
27:27
Speaker 1: give him credit because the year before they got hammered. Right,
27:32
Speaker 1: that's right, And so k you motivate a football team,
27:36
Speaker 1: you motivate an individual, and an individual that the week
27:40
Speaker 1: before didn't play very well and was widely criticized for
27:45
Speaker 1: his level of play the week before, and they come
27:48
Speaker 1: into this game against Clemson and he only has six
27:51
Speaker 1: games under his belt. And as them as a team,
27:54
Speaker 1: they only have six games under their belt. So for
27:57
Speaker 1: them to play how they did, and and I mean
28:00
Speaker 1: as domin as they were for me, the way that
28:03
Speaker 1: Ohio States defense played against Clemson, and then the way
28:08
Speaker 1: which was fantastic, but most importantly the way that Ohio
28:12
Speaker 1: State's offense kept Clemson's defense off balance with with manipulating
28:18
Speaker 1: tempo and changing tempo. That was impressive to me. I
28:22
Speaker 1: thought that the Clemson Tigers defensively, they got out coached
28:26
Speaker 1: the Ohio State's offense. They absolutely put them their foot
28:30
Speaker 1: on their on on Clemson's neck and held it there
28:33
Speaker 1: the entire game. And so credit the Ohio State offensive
28:37
Speaker 1: coaches for dictating tempo and catching the Clemson defense off
28:41
Speaker 1: guarding multiple occasions where Clemson wasn't even get lined up
28:44
Speaker 1: in and and and even even when they had their
28:47
Speaker 1: starting linebacker who eventually got forgot tossed for targeting, which
28:50
Speaker 1: I thought was the proper call recording the collegiate rules.
28:54
Speaker 1: Even though they lost him, even when they had him,
28:57
Speaker 1: they were having a hard time. Was the tempo Ohio State.
29:00
Speaker 1: And it helps when you have a run game, trace
29:02
Speaker 1: servant can can bring it on the ground for them
29:04
Speaker 1: to balance it out of Clemson had great round and
29:09
Speaker 1: ground game, right I mean, but where State? I mean
29:13
Speaker 1: they put a put a check on that and that
29:15
Speaker 1: was it. Man, that was done. You know, so good,
29:18
Speaker 1: good entertaining game, And congratulations to Ohio State. And and
29:22
Speaker 1: Clemson will have to reload and and it's gonna be
29:25
Speaker 1: difficult to reload without a quarterback that is of the
29:28
Speaker 1: stature of Trevor wa You like the guy they have
29:31
Speaker 1: that's coming on deck. But we'll we'll see what happens
29:34
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29:37
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29:42
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29:45
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Speaker 1: finalist Tony Bisselli. Congratulations. I think it's the first time
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Speaker 1: of the finalist again, so congrats, Tony, what's up? Thank you?
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Speaker 1: J P. All good here in Pontovidra. You know, just
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Speaker 1: Sam Old Samuel. It's a little start to get at
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Speaker 1: all is good. All right, I've got a same old,
34:01
Speaker 1: same old. You're hanging out with Snoop Dogg. What in
34:04
Speaker 1: the world. Come on, let's take a look on Jaguars
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Speaker 1: dot com. This is from Mega Parak, the Chief Legal
34:10
Speaker 1: Officers Instagram. Last night a E W Dynamite at Daily's place,
34:15
Speaker 1: all Elite Wrestling, Snoop Dogg in attendance and Tony Boselli
34:19
Speaker 1: in attendance as well. I'm sure you guys go all
34:21
Speaker 1: the way back to like ninety three in in l
34:23
Speaker 1: a Right. Well, you know he is uh from Long
34:27
Speaker 1: Beach Pauli uh and his one of his buddies from
34:31
Speaker 1: Long Beach Paully was William E. Guinness who's we're in
34:35
Speaker 1: the same recruiting class and played a sc together. So
34:38
Speaker 1: we go back. Uh It's not like I know Snoop
34:41
Speaker 1: well or anything like that. Um and so, but he, uh,
34:46
Speaker 1: he found out I was there, and he said he
34:48
Speaker 1: grabbed Megan and said, hey, tell Tony come back to
34:50
Speaker 1: the trailer. So I went back and took my daughter
34:54
Speaker 1: and Mike Perkins kids and got some pictures. And uh,
34:59
Speaker 1: he's a funny dude now, but he's a good dude.
35:01
Speaker 1: He was great, you know what. I appreciate it. But
35:03
Speaker 1: he's a big star. Everyone knows that. But he was
35:05
Speaker 1: great with the kids taking pictures, you know, really engaging
35:09
Speaker 1: and he was It was great. It was fun. He's tall.
35:11
Speaker 1: We're looking at the photo. I mean, you're at six eight,
35:13
Speaker 1: six nine and he's right there with you. Yeah, I'm
35:16
Speaker 1: six seven, six seven and a half. I mean he's
35:18
Speaker 1: a good six four I mean, but he might not
35:21
Speaker 1: weigh more than a bucks you're talking about about pretty wiry.
35:27
Speaker 1: He's pretty wiry. So Tony. I remember uh years ago
35:32
Speaker 1: and uh when I was playing with the Jets and
35:35
Speaker 1: we were on our way for a West coast trip,
35:38
Speaker 1: and so we flew out there on a Friday, and
35:41
Speaker 1: so on Saturday, we were on our way to USC's campus.
35:46
Speaker 1: And I don't remember the year, but we're on and
35:48
Speaker 1: you were probably there up on campus at the time.
35:50
Speaker 1: But we're on our way to USC campus to have
35:52
Speaker 1: a practice, and all of a sudden we turn on Compton,
35:57
Speaker 1: I guess is the name of the road, And all
36:00
Speaker 1: of a sudden, a bunch of guys on our team
36:02
Speaker 1: started breaking out, going Snoop, Snoop, Snoop. I'm going, what
36:07
Speaker 1: in the world's going on? And I didn't even know
36:09
Speaker 1: who snoop what at the top and a couple of
36:12
Speaker 1: guys and I look, and all I see is a Bentley,
36:16
Speaker 1: And I mean, you know it's a I mean it's
36:18
Speaker 1: a nice Bentley. I mean it's got the shine to it,
36:21
Speaker 1: and the windows rolled down, the music is playing, and
36:24
Speaker 1: and I see a guy that everybody's telling me. All
36:27
Speaker 1: my teammates are telling me that's Snoop Dogg. I'm like,
36:30
Speaker 1: all right, that's cool. I guess I don't know who
36:32
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg is, but I think it's cool. Yeah, And
36:35
Speaker 1: that was probably early nineties, Jeff. I actually think I remember,
36:39
Speaker 1: you know, when you guys came out because it was
36:41
Speaker 1: a big deal. You know, your college kid playing football
36:43
Speaker 1: and the Jets are coming out to practice, you feel,
36:46
Speaker 1: and you probably turned down to Figaroa if you're getting
36:48
Speaker 1: off getting off the highway and heading to the campus there.
36:52
Speaker 1: So um yeah, uh yeah, it was fun. You know,
36:56
Speaker 1: it was my first time going to a w live.
36:59
Speaker 1: I've seen it on TV, you know obviously, and uh
37:02
Speaker 1: and what a great I'll tell you what, Tony con
37:05
Speaker 1: has done. An amazing job. It is a show. Um.
37:09
Speaker 1: You know, I was a huge wrestling fan as a kid,
37:12
Speaker 1: but I haven't watched it, you know, in years outside
37:14
Speaker 1: of you know, until Tony started a w So you know, obviously,
37:18
Speaker 1: as an owner of the Jaguars, you pay attention and
37:20
Speaker 1: you watch here and there and and what how what
37:23
Speaker 1: the funny thing is, I was watching it one night
37:26
Speaker 1: a while ago and my my eleven year old daughter
37:28
Speaker 1: comes in and she sat there for an hour with me,
37:31
Speaker 1: and it was just mesmerized, and she was like, Dad,
37:34
Speaker 1: this is awesome. And she's like, I'm like, would you
37:37
Speaker 1: like to go to one of these? Sometimes she goes,
37:39
Speaker 1: I would love to go do it to one. So
37:41
Speaker 1: the surprise was I took you know, I took her there.
37:44
Speaker 1: My other kids were so mad, not because they wanted
37:47
Speaker 1: to go to wrestling, they were so mad because they're
37:49
Speaker 1: older than college and everything, like she gotta meet Snoop
37:51
Speaker 1: Dogg and uh, but it was great the production. I mean,
37:55
Speaker 1: it is entertainment, and uh, it was fun. It was
37:59
Speaker 1: a fun night. Always good to do stuff with your kids.
38:01
Speaker 1: And um, I mean, Jpno, you don't have kids, but Jeff,
38:04
Speaker 1: you know that just doing those special moment with your kids.
38:06
Speaker 1: That was my favorite part to seeing her smile and
38:09
Speaker 1: she thought it was so cool that she got to
38:10
Speaker 1: meet Snoop Dogg. Um all right, So it was not
38:13
Speaker 1: a question because I'm just real quick, what was Snoop
38:17
Speaker 1: Dogg doing with a w I know that Snoop Dogg
38:20
Speaker 1: is on a TV show with the head wrestling guy Rhodes.
38:26
Speaker 1: They yeah, Cody, Cody Rhodes, And so is that part
38:29
Speaker 1: of what was going on while he's in town? Yeah?
38:31
Speaker 1: I think so that just probably promotion of both a
38:35
Speaker 1: w and Snoop show on show more than anything. Um
38:38
Speaker 1: he came out and did a little wrestling bit with
38:42
Speaker 1: uh Cody Rhodes and jumped off the top. I'll tell
38:44
Speaker 1: you what. I was impressed. He got to the top
38:46
Speaker 1: of the rope and jumped off and did one of
38:48
Speaker 1: his you know things, uh body slam or whatever it
38:51
Speaker 1: was called. And it was I was afterwards, I was
38:53
Speaker 1: making I was giving a hard time and said, Snoopy
38:55
Speaker 1: looked a little shaky there on the top of the ropes.
38:56
Speaker 1: And he said, oh man, that was fine. And he
39:00
Speaker 1: went on to share that he wanted to do that
39:02
Speaker 1: because his favorite wrestler growing up was Jimmy Fly Jimmy
39:06
Speaker 1: Uh yep, and uh so he went, it was great,
39:13
Speaker 1: it was fun. It was a fun night we got
39:15
Speaker 1: it got a little chilly out there. That's why I
39:17
Speaker 1: my code on. But it was fun. That's pretty awesome.
39:19
Speaker 1: That's that's a heck of a photograph. I'll say that
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Speaker 1: for sure. And h I hope you don't mind us
39:24
Speaker 1: sharing that on the protract because it's it's out there
39:26
Speaker 1: publicly anyway. It's already it's on Instagram. It's out there
39:31
Speaker 1: all right. So so wait minute before we go on here.
39:34
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna have some fun here because you know,
39:36
Speaker 1: last show or last the show that's wrapped up the
39:39
Speaker 1: season here. I grew up a big wrestling fan, and uh,
39:44
Speaker 1: you know, back in the day we had in Washington,
39:46
Speaker 1: d C. We had DC twenty, which used to show
39:49
Speaker 1: some of the old school wrestlers and Bob back Lyn
39:53
Speaker 1: and obviously on during the giant guys like that. Growing
39:57
Speaker 1: up as a kid, who is your favorite wrestler, you know,
40:01
Speaker 1: I mean, I I mean it was probably Holk Hogan
40:05
Speaker 1: because I remember going to m nicol mcnichol's Arena, the
40:08
Speaker 1: Old Arena and Denver and they had a big event
40:10
Speaker 1: and I'll never forget he was fighting I think the
40:12
Speaker 1: Junkyard Dog, and uh you know it's also it's so
40:17
Speaker 1: beautifully done, and he did the thing where he looks
40:19
Speaker 1: like he's almost beaten and there they raised them they
40:22
Speaker 1: raised his hand in the first two times he would
40:24
Speaker 1: drop and then the third time he hold up and
40:26
Speaker 1: start shaking. Yeah, I mean that that never he was
40:30
Speaker 1: like just like just in my mind, it's just like
40:33
Speaker 1: written in my brain that I'll never have that image.
40:35
Speaker 1: And and so I loved him I and I also
40:37
Speaker 1: loved Macho Man and Randy Savage was I thought was great.
40:42
Speaker 1: And you know, and I remember that when I disliked
40:46
Speaker 1: the most is um what was it, Roddy Roddy Piper
40:49
Speaker 1: or Rodney Rodney Piper whatever his name was. Oh yeah,
40:55
Speaker 1: and so I don't know, Roddy Piper, fantastic sting the best.
41:02
Speaker 1: It was fun. It was a fun night. And I give,
41:04
Speaker 1: you know, I give him credit. I give I mean,
41:07
Speaker 1: they're competing with, you know, an entity and w W
41:10
Speaker 1: has been around forever and they're doing great. It's a
41:12
Speaker 1: it's a Tony conn has done a good job at
41:15
Speaker 1: that thing, you know. So if you ever get a
41:17
Speaker 1: chance to go down to Danny's place when they're here,
41:19
Speaker 1: I don't know how much longer they're here, or what
41:20
Speaker 1: the schedules or anything like that, but it's a it's
41:23
Speaker 1: a it's a good it's a fun, entertaining night, all right,
41:26
Speaker 1: j P. Who's yours? It's gotta be right in that
41:29
Speaker 1: same ballpark, Hulk Hogan. But I always enjoyed the interviews,
41:33
Speaker 1: mean gene Oakerland in the interview fantastic. Come on now,
41:39
Speaker 1: the facial expressions he had with some of the comments.
41:44
Speaker 1: And I will say, Jim Ross, who does the commentary now,
41:47
Speaker 1: is a long time w W E, w w F announcers.
41:51
Speaker 1: He does a w now does a great job. And
41:52
Speaker 1: how about this this this summer um, Doug Barrone and
41:57
Speaker 1: I went out to see Jim Ross. That is a part.
42:00
Speaker 1: But at Jack's Beach and grill out steak for two hours.
42:02
Speaker 1: I didn't get a word in edgewise with those two.
42:06
Speaker 1: That was an afternoon to remember. I'll say, Doug Baron Ross,
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45:52
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Speaker 1: balance between you know, delegate and an abdication, I think
46:02
Speaker 1: is an important point. Uh And certainly I found that
46:07
Speaker 1: in the last whatever fifteen months, having that, you know,
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Speaker 1: necessitates the conversation. You're part of the conversation with the
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Speaker 1: GM and the head coach. So being part of that here,
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Speaker 1: process and the hiring process, GM and head coach opening
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46:36
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour continues Tony, what's your gut saying Is
46:41
Speaker 1: it gonna be a bit Are they coming in hot?
46:45
Speaker 1: Are there there's obviously interviewing. We've seen the list of
46:48
Speaker 1: candidates on the GM and the head coaching side at
46:51
Speaker 1: least that are getting interviews or have been interviewed. What's
46:54
Speaker 1: your gut saying about maybe a timetable. Oh, I would
46:59
Speaker 1: think in the next couple of weeks, you know at
47:02
Speaker 1: the soonest to be next week. Um, but I think
47:06
Speaker 1: they're gonna go through the process. I mean they're interviewing
47:07
Speaker 1: people right now. Uh, you know obviously of the urban
47:10
Speaker 1: news out there. Um, that I think is real. I
47:13
Speaker 1: don't think it's his job or anything like that, but
47:16
Speaker 1: I think it's real and they're gonna go through that process.
47:18
Speaker 1: And then they're also interviewing GM so uh yeah, I
47:22
Speaker 1: mean two weeks, maybe three weeks max. Because I think
47:27
Speaker 1: once the first team hires a coach, the dominoes start
47:30
Speaker 1: following because you you you know, if you have multiple
47:33
Speaker 1: teams wanted the same guy, or they've stack ranked them
47:36
Speaker 1: the same you know, that's where you start seeing a
47:37
Speaker 1: little bit of a competitive nature come out. So uh,
47:41
Speaker 1: that's you know, just a guess. You know, I think
47:44
Speaker 1: Shod was clear that he would like to in a
47:46
Speaker 1: perfect world do these both at the same time. Um,
47:49
Speaker 1: They're both gonna report to him. They're gonna be on
47:51
Speaker 1: equal footing, UM with him being a part of the
47:53
Speaker 1: decision making process, especially on the big deals around player
47:57
Speaker 1: acquisition and contracting. And if they asked, you know, they
48:01
Speaker 1: end up cutting a player or something. My guess is
48:03
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean if he's you know, they're cutting the
48:05
Speaker 1: you know, the fifty three guy on the roster, that
48:08
Speaker 1: Sean needs to know every single little bit about that.
48:12
Speaker 1: Maybe he does, I don't know, but you know, the
48:13
Speaker 1: big decisions, I think he's saying, listen, you know, I'm
48:16
Speaker 1: right in the checks and this is my team, and
48:18
Speaker 1: I want to understand what we're doing. And I'm gonna
48:20
Speaker 1: trust the you know, the GM and the head coach
48:22
Speaker 1: to make the decisions. But I would like to be
48:23
Speaker 1: looped in when those big decisions are being made. Right.
48:28
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens in the next days weeks
48:31
Speaker 1: ahead on both fronts. And you know, we we touched
48:35
Speaker 1: earlier Tony on the quarterback position. What Mr Khan said
48:40
Speaker 1: about that spot, guys, and is that you, Tony? Are
48:43
Speaker 1: you ringing? Is that Jeff? Who is? That? Was mine?
48:47
Speaker 1: I off? Sorry, the world is going on over there,
48:50
Speaker 1: Indra today my fault. Wow, so I didn't I didn't
48:57
Speaker 1: sign my uh in silence my own. That's like an
49:02
Speaker 1: old school ring right there. Do you have a flip phone?
49:05
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool? What is that? No, it's a normal
49:08
Speaker 1: it's an iPhone, not a flip phone. All right, that's good.
49:11
Speaker 1: So quarterback position obviously priority number one for whoever has
49:16
Speaker 1: hired Lugs. We've touched on that earlier. I mean, you've
49:18
Speaker 1: got to start there because you don't have this opportunity
49:21
Speaker 1: to have a blank slate like this is an organization
49:24
Speaker 1: for ownershot con. I mean this is probably the only time,
49:28
Speaker 1: hopefully the only time this will ever happen. Will you
49:30
Speaker 1: have the number one pick and a new head coach
49:32
Speaker 1: and GM at the same time? Yeah, I mean you hope.
49:37
Speaker 1: I mean that, Uh, that means you have you're not
49:40
Speaker 1: doing very well when you have all those three things
49:42
Speaker 1: kind of co inside. But I think it's pretty important
49:45
Speaker 1: too that that the Jaguars find it, in my opinion, uh,
49:49
Speaker 1: an offensive coach. And the reason I say that is
49:54
Speaker 1: if if you hire a defensive coach, and luck trust me,
49:57
Speaker 1: I'm a defensive guy, and I think there's some really
50:00
Speaker 1: really good defensive guys out there. But if you end
50:04
Speaker 1: up hiring a defensive guy and then you hire an
50:07
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and all of a sudden you start having
50:10
Speaker 1: great success, your likelihood of losing that offensive coordinator to
50:16
Speaker 1: a head coaching job is pretty high. I mean, look
50:18
Speaker 1: at all the ires that have happened recently and that
50:21
Speaker 1: it's a lot of offensive guys to where if you
50:24
Speaker 1: can find a way to get a great leader as
50:27
Speaker 1: a head coach, which is the most important thing, but
50:30
Speaker 1: also that his side of expertise and football is on
50:34
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, it's better. I'm not
50:37
Speaker 1: saying it's the only way, but I think it's better
50:39
Speaker 1: then that way that you can have continuity with a
50:43
Speaker 1: young quarterback throughout his growth cycle. Because of all sudden,
50:46
Speaker 1: you have a defensive coach and have a coordinator and
50:50
Speaker 1: then you start getting hot and Trevor Lawrence is playing well,
50:52
Speaker 1: then you know what. Unfortunately, the hottest candidate in the
50:55
Speaker 1: league would be the guy that tutoring Trevor Lawrence, because
50:58
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna want that person would be tutoring their first
51:02
Speaker 1: round or first overall pick quarterback, And so the team
51:05
Speaker 1: is gonna have an opening that's gonna be drafting a
51:07
Speaker 1: quarterback very high in the top of the first round,
51:09
Speaker 1: is going to look for their next break head coach
51:11
Speaker 1: that's got an offensive mind. So I think it's just
51:13
Speaker 1: something to consider. And I don't think, like I said,
51:16
Speaker 1: I want to repeat this, it's not the only way
51:18
Speaker 1: to go about it, but I think it's certainly something
51:20
Speaker 1: that I would lean towards. Yeah, I think, Jeff, you
51:24
Speaker 1: said the most important part, you know, of what you
51:28
Speaker 1: just said is leadership, you know, And I would agree,
51:32
Speaker 1: like if lean if you want to lead towards the
51:34
Speaker 1: offensive mindset of the guy who's head coach, I'm fine
51:37
Speaker 1: with that as well. To me, it's about leadership. Get
51:40
Speaker 1: the right leader, and it's not you gotta have the
51:42
Speaker 1: right leader to head coach. It's such a critical position.
51:44
Speaker 1: They set the tone for the organization, they set the culture. Um,
51:48
Speaker 1: you need the right leader at the GM as well,
51:50
Speaker 1: because those two have to be lockstep, they have to
51:52
Speaker 1: be in it together. They have to have a similar philosophy, beliefs,
51:54
Speaker 1: convictions and everything else. So to me. The number of
51:57
Speaker 1: people have asked me, like, what what do you want
51:58
Speaker 1: to head coach? One thing, I want a leader. I
52:01
Speaker 1: want a guy who can lead the organization. Who can
52:04
Speaker 1: you know, can because at the end of the day,
52:06
Speaker 1: that guy's job. He has to lead fifty three guys
52:08
Speaker 1: on the roster active roster, and he has to lead
52:11
Speaker 1: a coaching staff, and he has to be consistent and
52:14
Speaker 1: and you know, forward thinking and you know and dynamic
52:18
Speaker 1: and all those different things. But it's all about leadership.
52:22
Speaker 1: And to just point, if you get a guy who's
52:24
Speaker 1: a great leader and leads to the offensive side of
52:26
Speaker 1: the ball, that's a plus. Alright, guys, So it is
52:30
Speaker 1: that that'll do it for our Jaguars discussion today because
52:34
Speaker 1: it is Super wild Card weekend in the National Football
52:38
Speaker 1: League and our last chance, Tony to catch up with
52:41
Speaker 1: you before you're headed to Pittsburgh right to do the
52:44
Speaker 1: Brown Steelers game on Sunday night, the nightcap on the
52:49
Speaker 1: second day of wild card weekend. Um, that should be
52:53
Speaker 1: a fun game. We'll get to that one coming up.
52:54
Speaker 1: But we've got some division rivals involved this weekend. The
52:58
Speaker 1: Colts are at the Hills on Saturday one o'clock what's
53:03
Speaker 1: your gut on this one, Tony Well, the Bills are
53:07
Speaker 1: the hottest team in football in my opinion, I mean outside,
53:10
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you argue Green Bay, but Josh
53:11
Speaker 1: Allen's playing such a high level. Uh you know, They've
53:15
Speaker 1: got a dynamic passing game. They've got a good offensive line. Defensively, Um,
53:19
Speaker 1: there one weakness if you look at just statistically and
53:22
Speaker 1: kind of games, is that run defense. So that'll be interesting.
53:25
Speaker 1: I think it's a matchup where for the Colts to win,
53:28
Speaker 1: they gotta run the ball, Jonathan Taylor control the line
53:30
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, and then they have to win with their
53:33
Speaker 1: front four of getting after Josh Allen with the Forrest
53:36
Speaker 1: Buckner and Justin Houston leads away. So the Colts but
53:40
Speaker 1: they have a great chance. I'm not counting them out,
53:43
Speaker 1: but it's gonna have to be the front four taking
53:45
Speaker 1: over that game. Because if Josh Allen has times back
53:47
Speaker 1: time back there and he can operate at the level
53:49
Speaker 1: he's operating right now, that he will skewer the Colts secondary.
53:55
Speaker 1: I'll put it this way, JP there's no chance that
53:59
Speaker 1: the Colts beat the offlow Bills. The Colts were fortunate
54:02
Speaker 1: to beat the Jaguars in the last week of the season.
54:06
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers does not look great and he has to
54:09
Speaker 1: have an incredible running game to support him. And uh,
54:13
Speaker 1: and that's the fact. And the Buffalo Bills are gonna
54:16
Speaker 1: run all over him and wear them out. Wow, okay, um,
54:19
Speaker 1: I like that. There's really no You didn't stutter at
54:21
Speaker 1: all in that in that prediction. The Rams at the Seahawks,
54:25
Speaker 1: and we need the Seahawks to win, and we also need,
54:28
Speaker 1: by the way, the uh what is it the Bears
54:31
Speaker 1: and Washington to win. That would give uh, the Jaguars
54:35
Speaker 1: the best possible draft pick with the Rams pick. If
54:38
Speaker 1: the Rams lose in Washington, Chicago wins and they have
54:41
Speaker 1: the the worst record of the teams that have lost, well,
54:46
Speaker 1: and and explain to people why, but I mean that's
54:49
Speaker 1: the Jail and Ramsey trade. You still have a first
54:51
Speaker 1: round pick this spring, in the fourth round pick this
54:53
Speaker 1: spring that is due to be paid to the Jaguars.
54:57
Speaker 1: So the more that the Seahawks lose, the know the
55:00
Speaker 1: draft position for the Jaguar the ms um exactly, yep, yeah,
55:07
Speaker 1: exactly right. Um. I think this is an interesting game.
55:10
Speaker 1: I think you know it's in Seattle, but there's no crowd.
55:14
Speaker 1: It's not like you have the loud twelfth man there. Um.
55:17
Speaker 1: These two teams have played two games, have been both
55:19
Speaker 1: very close. Um. I can't imagine Jared Goff being ready
55:24
Speaker 1: some thumb thumb surgery. So you're probably John Warford, the
55:28
Speaker 1: Jacksonville kid from Bishop Kennedy. Um. He actually played pretty
55:32
Speaker 1: well in that week's sevent team matchup that they had
55:35
Speaker 1: against Arizona. So I think it's Seattle. I mean, their
55:39
Speaker 1: defense is playing a really high level as of late
55:42
Speaker 1: second half of the year. So Russell Wilson, you know,
55:45
Speaker 1: two close teams. You know, both good teams go with
55:48
Speaker 1: the better quarterback in Russell Wilson's as much as we'll
55:50
Speaker 1: be rooting for John Warford for as a Jacksonville guy,
55:53
Speaker 1: but uh, I think Russell Wilson is a little bit better. Yeah,
55:57
Speaker 1: definitely rooting for him. But Seattle's d defense has made
56:01
Speaker 1: vast improvement since the beginning of the year. And I
56:04
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be tough even though it is a
56:07
Speaker 1: no crowd game. I think it's gonna be tough for
56:09
Speaker 1: for the ram Let's get through the rest of these
56:11
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. Here, Tampa Bay in Washington, the NFC East champs.
56:17
Speaker 1: I think this is closer to any one thinks because
56:19
Speaker 1: you know what's the one thing Tom Brady hates. That's
56:21
Speaker 1: pressure and for the football team can rush the pastor
56:25
Speaker 1: they got a defensive front that can get after you.
56:27
Speaker 1: The problem is, I don't think they can score points
56:29
Speaker 1: because that Tampa defense is pretty good too. So, um,
56:32
Speaker 1: I think it's a close game, but I think Tampa wins. Yeah.
56:36
Speaker 1: I'm almost Tony right there. I thought that was perfectly described.
56:40
Speaker 1: Six to three final. Uh maybe no, not quite Okay, Uh,
56:46
Speaker 1: Sunday three good football games here. The Ravens and the
56:49
Speaker 1: Titans get us started at one o'clock in Nashville. Tony,
56:54
Speaker 1: I think that's a good one. That's a good yeah.
56:58
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you, but I mean
57:00
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens win because I don't think the
57:02
Speaker 1: Titans stop anybody. That defense is so bad. I mean,
57:06
Speaker 1: they are so bad. And the Ravens are playing at
57:08
Speaker 1: a high level right now, and uh, I think they
57:11
Speaker 1: have a chip on their shoulder. I think they're going
57:12
Speaker 1: in better than they were last year, even though they were,
57:14
Speaker 1: you know, had the best record in the NFL. Um,
57:17
Speaker 1: they went to adversity, they've overcome it. March Jackson is
57:21
Speaker 1: playing really well. Their defense is good. I mean Tennessee,
57:25
Speaker 1: it's always everything the game. But if you can't get
57:29
Speaker 1: people off the field, how do you win? And the
57:30
Speaker 1: Titans are just atrocious. I'm I'm you know. What I'm
57:34
Speaker 1: searching right now on my phone is what's the playoff
57:38
Speaker 1: record for combined yards rushing? Oh? Okay, because I think
57:42
Speaker 1: that this game is gonna break it. It's gonna bean.
57:45
Speaker 1: It might be broken. Let's see what it says. They
57:48
Speaker 1: put individuals, they don't play a single game. Yeah, they
57:51
Speaker 1: put single individuals. But I think that's whatever the record is. Man,
57:54
Speaker 1: look out, it might be broken. Good game, Bears Saints
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Speaker 1: coming up at four forty and then the Brown Steelers
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Speaker 1: the night cap, Tony, what do you think about those
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Speaker 1: two games? You know, I can't imagine the Saints Louis
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Speaker 1: in that game. I mean, Chicago is not a very
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Speaker 1: good football team. Um, and so I think it's Saint No,
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Speaker 1: you never know. I means one word, you never know.
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Speaker 1: That's why they play the games. Kirk Cousins went in
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Speaker 1: and one last year. Who knows. Um, I think listen
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Speaker 1: I'm disappointed about the Cleveland Pittsburgh game from this standpoint.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Cleveland just not getting a fair shake here.
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Speaker 1: You know, no practices all week. They haven't thrown the past.
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Speaker 1: You know, they haven't done anything on the field. Their
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Speaker 1: head coach is gonna be out because of COVID. Their
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Speaker 1: offensive line coach, Bill Callahan probably out because of COVID.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna be out with their Pro Bowl left guard.
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Speaker 1: But Tonio, Um, I mean it's such a tough thing.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you hate it. You don't want to see
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Speaker 1: this in the playoffs. This is the COVID world we
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Speaker 1: live in. I think the Steelers win this game pretty easily. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm with Tony on both of them. And all right, JP,
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Speaker 1: Monday Night football is the college national championship game and
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Speaker 1: there's a team is playing that. You've got a little
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Speaker 1: bit of a maybe a little bit of afin for well,
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Speaker 1: I have a degree from there. But yes, um, and
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Speaker 1: who's gonna win? J M. I think Alabama will win.
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Speaker 1: But I don't think it's gonna be a blowout. I
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Speaker 1: think I think Ohio State can can score with them.
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Speaker 1: If Fields is healthy, is gonna boat race them? Well,
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Speaker 1: by Alabama two touchdowns. I think it's closer than the
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Speaker 1: experts think. On Monday Night in Miami, Tony, have a
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Speaker 1: great weekend and enjoy the game in Pittsburgh and we'll
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Speaker 1: talk to you all right, guys, Tony Boselli out of here.
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Speaker 1: We're back in a moment on the network with another
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