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- 1:12Speaker 5: What's going on? Everyone?
- 1:13Speaker 3: Welcome back to Beyond the Blood, where we are going
- 1:16Speaker 3: to be diving in for our after hours episode covering
- 1:20Speaker 3: our June and July pickups. This is Stephen here, and
- 1:24Speaker 3: I am joined by my co host Chris.
- 1:27Speaker 5: What's up?
- 1:28Speaker 4: Chris Hey doing.
- 1:30Speaker 5: Man.
- 1:30Speaker 3: I can't believe how fast the summer is flying.
- 1:34Speaker 4: Dude, It's like already over.
- 1:36Speaker 5: I swear we kept.
- 1:38Speaker 3: Talking about trying to knock this out, and I feel
- 1:41Speaker 3: like the last couple of months have escaped us. So
- 1:46Speaker 3: you know, we've got some movies definitely to cover.
- 1:48Speaker 4: I would say I only have of the four titles
- 1:51Speaker 4: I'm talking about, only one is a pickup. I be
- 1:55Speaker 4: honest with you, bro, I haven't been buying a whole lot,
- 1:57Speaker 4: and a lot of stuff is like pre orders that
- 2:00Speaker 4: haven't come in yet, so I'm kind of waiting for
- 2:03Speaker 4: so much stuff. But I've been watching a lot of
- 2:06Speaker 4: cool stuff, which is perfectly fine with me.
- 2:09Speaker 5: I love your posts.
- 2:10Speaker 3: It keeps me up to date with what you're actively watching,
- 2:13Speaker 3: even if it's like new pickups or you're going back
- 2:16Speaker 3: and you're revisiting, you know, old favorites. I know, one
- 2:20Speaker 3: of which we're we're gonna be talking about a little
- 2:22Speaker 3: bit later, which I know we have mutual love for.
- 2:24Speaker 4: So I try. Man, I it's really hard because I
- 2:28Speaker 4: watch movies really late at night. Yeah, that's kind of
- 2:31Speaker 4: been my thing, especially like I'm on vacation right now. Vacation,
- 2:36Speaker 4: staycation from work. Yeah, yeah, but you know, I have
- 2:40Speaker 4: I think two movies lined up for tonight, like where
- 2:43Speaker 4: I can be up till one o'clock in the morning
- 2:45Speaker 4: and just watching movies. When's your Like, I know that
- 2:49Speaker 4: you're usually watching movies late because I see your posts,
- 2:51Speaker 4: but like, when when do you cut off?
- 2:54Speaker 3: It's usually nine ten o'clock at night. I mean that's
- 2:58Speaker 3: when finally things start to die down. I'm able to
- 3:03Speaker 3: dial in, you know, sit back and relax, you know,
- 3:06Speaker 3: try to do you know, at least I try to
- 3:09Speaker 3: shoot for maybe like a movie a night, especially with
- 3:12Speaker 3: I feel like the amount of movies that I have
- 3:14Speaker 3: in my backlog that I'm trying to get caught up on.
- 3:17Speaker 3: And then obviously, you know, the movies that we cover
- 3:20Speaker 3: take first priorities, so I try.
- 3:21Speaker 5: To knock those out as soon as possible. It's just
- 3:23Speaker 5: in that way, you know, I'm good to go for
- 3:25Speaker 5: the next episode we're recording.
- 3:27Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well, let's let's plug a previous episode real quick.
- 3:31Speaker 4: We just posted a couple of days ago our interview
- 3:34Speaker 4: with Philip Escott from Second Sight Films. In my opinion,
- 3:40Speaker 4: I know you and I kind of talked offline about this,
- 3:42Speaker 4: but a pretty perfect episode in my opinion, at least
- 3:48Speaker 4: for like the behind the blood area of our show
- 3:51Speaker 4: where we do interviews and stuff. Yeah, a pretty perfect
- 3:54Speaker 4: episode and one that I think if you're listening to
- 3:57Speaker 4: this and you're a physical media guy like we are,
- 4:00Speaker 4: that's kind of like a really sweet treat for you,
- 4:02Speaker 4: because that's kind of what we talk about for the
- 4:04Speaker 4: most part right there on an interview for sure.
- 4:07Speaker 3: And what I loved about it was he definitely drops
- 4:11Speaker 3: some behind the scenes knowledge as far as maybe the
- 4:14Speaker 3: reason why we haven't gotten certain said releases through Second Site.
- 4:20Speaker 3: So I thought that that was really insightful and to
- 4:22Speaker 3: you know, kind of get a peek behind the curtain
- 4:25Speaker 3: of all the magic that Second Site is doing. I
- 4:29Speaker 3: swear it couldn't gone any better. And he was just
- 4:31Speaker 3: such a great guest to have on the show.
- 4:34Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, he was incredible.
- 4:36Speaker 5: Man.
- 4:36Speaker 4: That's I'm always super nervous when we do interviews because
- 4:39Speaker 4: it's like, you hope you're gonna jive with somebody. You
- 4:42Speaker 4: never know. People are different. Sorry, if you hear my dog,
- 4:46Speaker 4: he's just next to me. People doesn't mean they're not
- 4:50Speaker 4: nice or whatever. But there's just different. You know, some
- 4:52Speaker 4: people are more talkative, some people more interactive. But I
- 4:54Speaker 4: think so far between you know, working with Jordan from
- 4:58Speaker 4: the movie Den on the Autumn Marcus interview and the
- 5:01Speaker 4: Phil Scott interview, I think we've done a good job
- 5:05Speaker 4: at kind of creating the kind of sharing the love
- 5:11Speaker 4: for what we're discussing with the guests solely.
- 5:15Speaker 3: And I think at its core, just being able to
- 5:18Speaker 3: talk with some of these guests that you know that
- 5:21Speaker 3: through and through that their physical media lovers and that
- 5:24Speaker 3: they truly have a deeper appreciation for movies. I think
- 5:28Speaker 3: to me just means so much, and it's it's fun
- 5:31Speaker 3: to be able to have that type of like candid
- 5:34Speaker 3: conversation with somebody else that's you know, into a lot
- 5:36Speaker 3: of the same movies as we are.
- 5:39Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, And for people wondering, yes, we are still
- 5:43Speaker 4: doing commentary stuff. So this episode's going live well technically
- 5:47Speaker 4: tomorrow the day out the day we're recording this the
- 5:51Speaker 4: night before you hear this if you listen to this
- 5:52Speaker 4: episode tomorrow when it goes live, but we are doing
- 5:57Speaker 4: commentary for August. We're doing the Texas Chains on my
- 6:00Speaker 4: that's being recorded at the end of this week, So
- 6:03Speaker 4: don't worry. I know there was some delays. Both of
- 6:05Speaker 4: us have kind of suffered some personal loss in our family,
- 6:10Speaker 4: so it's just been delay after delay after delay. But
- 6:13Speaker 4: it's coming. I promise. We're hard at work. Please don't
- 6:17Speaker 4: be mad at us.
- 6:17Speaker 5: Behind the scenes.
- 6:18Speaker 3: I feel like we're trying to make up for lost time.
- 6:21Speaker 3: Like the amount of exchanges that we have going back
- 6:23Speaker 3: and forth trying to iron out like the next couple
- 6:25Speaker 3: of months is I just get a little bit of
- 6:28Speaker 3: a laugh to myself when we're going back and forth
- 6:31Speaker 3: on that.
- 6:32Speaker 4: And it's it's like blown up so fast, Like I
- 6:34Speaker 4: cannot stress kind of what we have coming, you know,
- 6:37Speaker 4: as far as for the most part, for the behind
- 6:39Speaker 4: the Blood segments, we're doing an interview because or the
- 6:41Speaker 4: interviews because we really want to lean into that because
- 6:43Speaker 4: we feel like we have a good thing going. Yeah,
- 6:45Speaker 4: and we really love that, and you know, it's good
- 6:48Speaker 4: variety to give the audience, to give these insights. I
- 6:53Speaker 4: mean we're currently talking to six plus people industry people
- 6:57Speaker 4: while coming on the show, you know, between your contacts,
- 7:00Speaker 4: between my contexts, trying to schedule and place all this around,
- 7:06Speaker 4: you know, family and full time work and all this,
- 7:08Speaker 4: it gets a little hectic, especially when.
- 7:10Speaker 3: We're trying zones, like I'm learning to adjust different time zones.
- 7:15Speaker 4: Phil the film interview was ten am our time, three
- 7:17Speaker 4: o'clock his time in the UK. So yeah, it gets
- 7:21Speaker 4: a little complicated, but we're getting there, you know.
- 7:23Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, lots of exciting stuff. You know.
- 7:26Speaker 3: I'm definitely looking forward to the Texas Chainsaw Massacre episode
- 7:30Speaker 3: just because I feel like we've been building it up
- 7:33Speaker 3: for so long and to just cover such a seminal release,
- 7:38Speaker 3: not only with the movie but also the second site release.
- 7:43Speaker 3: You know, I couldn't think of a better time to
- 7:45Speaker 3: release it. You know, we're you know, knee deep in summer,
- 7:48Speaker 3: and you know, I absolutely always associate that movie with
- 7:52Speaker 3: peak summer.
- 7:54Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 7:55Speaker 4: Yeah, so tons of of going. I mean. Good news
- 7:58Speaker 4: on the physical media front, uh Ravito Giallo has finally
- 8:01Speaker 4: shipped from Cauldron. I got my notification today that that
- 8:05Speaker 4: is on the way. It's been only since November or
- 8:08Speaker 4: January was the announcement.
- 8:09Speaker 5: When it's been a journey.
- 8:12Speaker 3: Listen, I think listen, I got nothing but love for Cauldron,
- 8:17Speaker 3: but I know better with the Houses of Doom box set,
- 8:20Speaker 3: and I was talking with Jordan earlier about this that
- 8:24Speaker 3: that was arguably a top three release from me last year,
- 8:28Speaker 3: and I knew as soon as we got this announcement
- 8:32Speaker 3: for the Bava box set, I was like, buckle up.
- 8:34Speaker 3: I just had this feeling that it might take a
- 8:36Speaker 3: little bit longer than we're all hoping, but it's gonna
- 8:39Speaker 3: be worth it, right.
- 8:40Speaker 4: They improved it. The delay was good improvements, yep. So,
- 8:44Speaker 4: and I think those improvements took way longer than they
- 8:47Speaker 4: were even expecting. But at the end of the day,
- 8:50Speaker 4: the release that we are getting is better than what
- 8:52Speaker 4: we were originally getting, So it's okay, yeah, you know,
- 8:57Speaker 4: so very excited about that. Really, that's the only thing
- 8:59Speaker 4: that I have coming. I mean, I have Texas chains.
- 9:02Speaker 4: I asker four K from Arrow, I have the beat
- 9:04Speaker 4: texta chains at the beginning from Arrow. When when Evil
- 9:07Speaker 4: Lurks from Second Sight was that was all part of
- 9:09Speaker 4: one order.
- 9:10Speaker 5: So I have to oh, that's why.
- 9:11Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, so a little bit of delay on when
- 9:13Speaker 4: Evil Lurks.
- 9:15Speaker 5: Did you pick up Thief Michael Mann's four K?
- 9:19Speaker 4: I did not. I did not. I have the criterion
- 9:22Speaker 4: Oh okay, yep. The only thing Mike, Uh kind of
- 9:27Speaker 4: did Jordan. Jordan and I have favor. He got us
- 9:30Speaker 4: the Nothing Is Secret set from Radiance. Oh so I'm
- 9:33Speaker 4: just waiting for that to ship out. Kind of Jordan
- 9:35Speaker 4: kind of talked me into that.
- 9:37Speaker 5: Very cool.
- 9:38Speaker 4: But yeah, that's really all that that I'm waiting for
- 9:41Speaker 4: physical media wise, I mean, anything else that I didn't
- 9:43Speaker 4: mention that you're kind of waiting checking the shipping.
- 9:45Speaker 5: For sleep Away Camp two and three. Come on, man, you're.
- 9:49Speaker 4: Gonna get the Sleepway Camp novel from in Psychopocalypse pub.
- 9:53Speaker 3: That could happen. That could happen, depends how I'm feeling
- 9:57Speaker 3: after I pick up these two. You know, I'm definitely
- 10:02Speaker 3: excited to revisit both these movies. That's been some time,
- 10:05Speaker 3: and you know, hopefully this will be uh, you know,
- 10:09Speaker 3: it'll live up to expectations. I feel like Screen Factory,
- 10:12Speaker 3: you know, above all ELTs, they're able to knock it
- 10:15Speaker 3: out of the park with their four K transfers.
- 10:18Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 10:18Speaker 4: Yeah, And I do want to say shout out to
- 10:20Speaker 4: in Psycho Bacalypts Publications for keeping horror novelizations alive between
- 10:25Speaker 4: this and like their work with Severn. You know, there's
- 10:28Speaker 4: a six hundred plus page book out there adaptation of Rats.
- 10:32Speaker 4: So you know, keeping keeping the good work coming, you
- 10:35Speaker 4: know what I mean.
- 10:36Speaker 5: Doing that's a certain level of commitment.
- 10:38Speaker 4: Man, Oh my god, Well, do you want to kick
- 10:43Speaker 4: us off kind of talk about your your first title
- 10:45Speaker 4: that you got for us?
- 10:46Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
- 10:49Speaker 3: Well the first one that I wanted to have a
- 10:52Speaker 3: chance to dive into is from one oh one Films.
- 10:57Speaker 3: So I picked up the nineteen ninety five of released
- 11:00Speaker 3: Castle Freak.
- 11:02Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I love that movie.
- 11:03Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yep. So this one I was really really
- 11:08Speaker 3: excited for. I'm excited to see that some of like
- 11:11Speaker 3: the Full Moon features, Uh, those movies are starting to
- 11:15Speaker 3: get a little bit more love. It feels like within
- 11:17Speaker 3: the last year between Umbrella one on one films, like
- 11:23Speaker 3: they're definitely kicking it into overdrive as far as doing
- 11:28Speaker 3: like boutique treatments for those films.
- 11:31Speaker 5: So very very exciting. Obviously.
- 11:34Speaker 3: This is directed by the late Stuart Gordon and definitely
- 11:39Speaker 3: inspired by a lot of the HP Lovecraft Dan influence.
- 11:45Speaker 4: Right yeah, yeah, I think it's not as cosmic as
- 11:50Speaker 4: other Craft stuff, but it's still in the in the vein,
- 11:53Speaker 4: I think.
- 11:54Speaker 3: Yeah, And so this one stars. We've got Jeffrey Combs,
- 11:59Speaker 3: Barbara Hampton and a lot of familiar faces for Stuart
- 12:04Speaker 3: Gordon films. And this actually revolves around a couple their
- 12:09Speaker 3: daughter that come face to face with terror when they
- 12:11Speaker 3: travel to Italy to move into a castle they have inherited,
- 12:15Speaker 3: so unbenown.
- 12:15Speaker 4: To the band's castle by the way, actual castle that
- 12:19Speaker 4: he owned.
- 12:20Speaker 3: That's incredible. Unbeknownst to them, their new home harbors at
- 12:26Speaker 3: grotesquely disfigured and tortured man who has been imprisoned for decades.
- 12:32Speaker 3: So this I was very, very impressed with this release.
- 12:39Speaker 3: Some of the key features that I feel like really
- 12:43Speaker 3: stood out and they are new for this release. So
- 12:47Speaker 3: we have a brand new interview with composer Richard Band.
- 12:51Speaker 3: There's Don't Look in the Basement, which is an interview
- 12:54Speaker 3: with actress Barbara Crampton, and then Freakin a Leash which
- 12:58Speaker 3: is an interview with filmmaker Chris Alexander. You also get
- 13:02Speaker 3: some archival extras in with it, so Castle Speak with
- 13:06Speaker 3: Stuart Gordon and William Shatner, interview with Stuart Gordon, Barbara
- 13:11Speaker 3: Crampton and Jeffrey Colmes. They definitely went all out for
- 13:16Speaker 3: this release. I feel like One on one Films is
- 13:19Speaker 3: like the unsung hero when it comes to their boutique
- 13:23Speaker 3: treatment for whether it's Blue Rays or four K's and overall,
- 13:27Speaker 3: I was just really impressed with this. You know, it's
- 13:30Speaker 3: one of the nineties horror films I just don't think
- 13:34Speaker 3: gets talked about enough, often overlooked, and I'm glad that
- 13:40Speaker 3: One on one Films is giving this release the love
- 13:43Speaker 3: that it deserves.
- 13:45Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, this's got a lot of attention when
- 13:47Speaker 4: it was on the late night drive in with Joe
- 13:50Speaker 4: Bob mm hm. This was I think first season. I
- 13:53Speaker 4: think this was like the second or third episode when
- 13:55Speaker 4: the show repremiered on Shutter. That's that's when I solid
- 14:00Speaker 4: because I had never seen it before it. I think
- 14:03Speaker 4: what I love most about it is that it's still
- 14:05Speaker 4: is down to its core a Stuart Gordon film, Like
- 14:09Speaker 4: it's it's exploitive, it's violent, it's really grimy, Like Jeffrey
- 14:15Speaker 4: Combe's character is kind of a piece of shit, you
- 14:18Speaker 4: know what I mean. In this movie. Barbara Crampton's fantastic
- 14:23Speaker 4: the daughter, she's wonderful. The creature design is super gross.
- 14:29Speaker 4: You know, it's very, very haunting. But it still has
- 14:33Speaker 4: like it's God's finger still on the pulse of Fu
- 14:38Speaker 4: Moon of Fu Moon at full Moon typicality, you know
- 14:42Speaker 4: what I mean, Like it's it's to its core a
- 14:44Speaker 4: Full Moon film, and I I think that's why I
- 14:46Speaker 4: love it. I did get that release. I haven't watched
- 14:50Speaker 4: it yet, but very happy to have a little bit
- 14:54Speaker 4: more of a boutique treatment for it. I think it's
- 14:56Speaker 4: the same transfer as the Full Moon excuse me, Blu ray,
- 15:01Speaker 4: So I don't think they've really enhanced it. But I don't.
- 15:05Speaker 4: I don't. It's not when I'm like I need on
- 15:07Speaker 4: four K. I think the Blu ray looks.
- 15:09Speaker 5: Good for sure.
- 15:10Speaker 3: It's it's definitely like I mean everything from the you know,
- 15:16Speaker 3: the artwork on the slip cover down the.
- 15:19Speaker 5: Cover, I know that one.
- 15:23Speaker 3: I mean that just caught my eye when they first
- 15:25Speaker 3: announced it. I was like, that's like I must have
- 15:27Speaker 3: for me. Yeah, but yeah, there, I you know, I
- 15:31Speaker 3: think what's so impressive about this is, you know, it
- 15:35Speaker 3: was it was filmed on such a tight budget and
- 15:38Speaker 3: to be able to get such like a notable uh
- 15:41Speaker 3: Lovecraftian esque film. I mean it's it's notably darker, uh
- 15:47Speaker 3: you know, I would say as as far as horror
- 15:50Speaker 3: movies go, but there's a lot of focus I feel
- 15:52Speaker 3: like on like the family, trauma, grief, emotional abuse, and
- 15:55Speaker 3: tragedy all throughout. And yeah, it's definitely a movie that
- 16:01Speaker 3: I feel like I always find myself coming back to
- 16:03Speaker 3: on occasion. I have it, you know, in a nice
- 16:06Speaker 3: boutique release, and then I have that all the way
- 16:09Speaker 3: down to the VHS tape.
- 16:11Speaker 5: So it's pretty cool, man. I'm not gonna lie.
- 16:14Speaker 4: That's a fun one, dude. I feel like I could
- 16:15Speaker 4: throw that one on any time and oh, yeah, you know,
- 16:18Speaker 4: have some fun with that one.
- 16:19Speaker 5: You know, what was.
- 16:21Speaker 3: What was your initial experience, Like how did you first
- 16:24Speaker 3: hear about this movie? You know, was it early on,
- 16:27Speaker 3: like when you were getting into horror movies like that,
- 16:30Speaker 3: or did it take some time to eventually discover it.
- 16:34Speaker 4: I wasn't really like a full Moon I mean really
- 16:37Speaker 4: still am not to an extent, Like I'm not the
- 16:41Speaker 4: biggest full Moon guy. I was never a puppet Master fan,
- 16:46Speaker 4: like you know, there was there's only few full Moon properties.
- 16:49Speaker 4: I really got into Castle Freak. To me, I feel
- 16:52Speaker 4: like when I was younger, I remember kind of seeing
- 16:54Speaker 4: the poster artwork and stuff, and it screamed like low
- 16:58Speaker 4: budget nothing, you know, until I grew up and I, uh,
- 17:02Speaker 4: you know, got a little smarter with my uh my thinking. Yeah,
- 17:08Speaker 4: and yeah, it was actually on Joe Bob that I
- 17:10Speaker 4: saw the movie, and Joe Bob just talks so incredibly well,
- 17:13Speaker 4: and I think on that episode he actually had Barbara
- 17:15Speaker 4: Crampton okay on And you know, at that point, I
- 17:18Speaker 4: was a massive reanimator fan. I was a massive Stewart
- 17:21Speaker 4: Gordon fan, and that was kind of one of the
- 17:23Speaker 4: two titles at the time that I'd never seen before
- 17:26Speaker 4: from him. And when it was over, I was like,
- 17:29Speaker 4: how the fuck have I never seen that?
- 17:31Speaker 5: Like?
- 17:31Speaker 4: How did I just plain ignorance?
- 17:34Speaker 2: You know.
- 17:34Speaker 3: I feel like when I when I think of like
- 17:38Speaker 3: Full Moon's movies, I would definitely put it in the
- 17:41Speaker 3: top tier.
- 17:42Speaker 5: You know. I know you said you're not the biggest
- 17:44Speaker 5: pop 'master fan, but.
- 17:47Speaker 3: As far as notable works, I definitely think it's up
- 17:50Speaker 3: there for them.
- 17:52Speaker 4: Yeah, that tourist trap is always I think my favorite. Okay,
- 17:57Speaker 4: uh yeah, which one on one films also really tourist
- 18:02Speaker 4: trap that I even love way back in the day.
- 18:05Speaker 4: Man one of the earlier Full Moon titles was actually
- 18:08Speaker 4: like a like a soft core comedy called fairy Tale. Okay,
- 18:13Speaker 4: it's like way back in like I don't even I
- 18:16Speaker 4: think it was like one of the ones that that
- 18:18Speaker 4: Charlie had picked up kind of after Empire fell apart
- 18:22Speaker 4: and he was starting Full Moon. It was like one
- 18:23Speaker 4: of those titles that he distributed through that. Yeah, but
- 18:27Speaker 4: I have a lot of fun with that movie. It's
- 18:28Speaker 4: pretty much like a it's kind of like a really light,
- 18:31Speaker 4: softcore movie about fairy tale. It's like this guy who
- 18:34Speaker 4: he's in love with this princess and he needs to
- 18:36Speaker 4: kind of track her down, and along the way he
- 18:38Speaker 4: just kind of comes across like these adult versions of
- 18:40Speaker 4: fairy tales and the humor is like out of control.
- 18:43Speaker 4: And then it's actually the premiere or the debut of LINEA. Quigley.
- 18:48Speaker 5: Oh process that he.
- 18:50Speaker 4: Yeah, she's the princess that he's trying to find, So
- 18:52Speaker 4: she's in like the last five minutes of the movie.
- 18:55Speaker 5: That's all.
- 18:56Speaker 4: That's one that like when I talk to people without
- 18:57Speaker 4: Full Moon, I'm like, oh, have you ever seen fairy Tale?
- 18:59Speaker 4: They're like no, I'm like, yeah, I found it.
- 19:01Speaker 5: On the form. I need to change that.
- 19:04Speaker 4: It's weird.
- 19:04Speaker 5: Man.
- 19:05Speaker 4: I found it on the full Moon like streaming service
- 19:08Speaker 4: that's kind of connected the Prime that you can get
- 19:11Speaker 4: for a couple of bucks a month.
- 19:12Speaker 5: Okay, so I found out on there.
- 19:15Speaker 4: Yeah, full Moon. I mean, look, dude, my my wife
- 19:18Speaker 4: loves Demonic Master versus Demonic Toys. So I'm rooting for
- 19:23Speaker 4: a release of that sometime soon.
- 19:24Speaker 5: I'm sure we'll get it.
- 19:25Speaker 3: I mean, with with the way that a lot of
- 19:28Speaker 3: these labels are knocking out, you know, whether it's the
- 19:32Speaker 3: the full Moon box that's the Umbrella has. I know
- 19:35Speaker 3: that they have a volume two out and then One
- 19:37Speaker 3: on one Films is just doing a phenomenal job with
- 19:40Speaker 3: with doing these releases. I mean, I'm sure it's just
- 19:43Speaker 3: it's just gonna be a matter of time.
- 19:46Speaker 4: Where since that's a new release, where did you pick
- 19:48Speaker 4: that up from?
- 19:50Speaker 3: I would say for a good portion of these Actually,
- 19:54Speaker 3: you know, half the stack was through the movie Reroom.
- 19:58Speaker 4: Perfect dude, what a what a We did not plan that.
- 20:02Speaker 4: By the way, that was not a segue that I
- 20:06Speaker 4: wanted to say.
- 20:06Speaker 3: It was the hole stack, But then I started looking
- 20:08Speaker 3: through the other titles were discussing and I gotta be honest,
- 20:12Speaker 3: only half of them are from there.
- 20:14Speaker 4: But it's okay, man. I was I was hoping. I
- 20:16Speaker 4: thought I had remembered you saying you got it from
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- 22:24Speaker 4: So just go over and make sure you check out
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- 22:44Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited for for what's to come, and they're
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- 22:50Speaker 3: very fortunate that we have this partnership with them, and
- 22:53Speaker 3: I feel like they always take great care of us.
- 22:56Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I told them straight up. I remember
- 22:59Speaker 4: the like the meeting we had with them, and I
- 23:00Speaker 4: was like, we were talking about building up getting a
- 23:02Speaker 4: podcast code together to work with them, and I was like,
- 23:06Speaker 4: we don't even need one. I'll just tell people about it.
- 23:08Speaker 4: And they're like, no, no, no, no, all right. I was
- 23:11Speaker 4: just trying to just trying to send people to you.
- 23:13Speaker 4: But okay, well they're awesome.
- 23:16Speaker 3: It feels like friends supporting friends. I know they're a
- 23:18Speaker 3: small business and you know, definitely you know, trying to
- 23:22Speaker 3: leave their mark, but yeah, I just feel like, you know,
- 23:26Speaker 3: when you you wholeheartedly believe in something, you know, I
- 23:29Speaker 3: want to be able to, you know, pound the table
- 23:32Speaker 3: and tell everyone I know how much I really appreciate,
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- 23:38Speaker 4: Absolutely well. My first title is actually from them. I
- 23:41Speaker 4: got got from the movie Room, Look at You, Chris Juste.
- 23:48Speaker 4: I picked up because I had to. I had no choice.
- 23:51Speaker 4: It was almost like fate grabbed my fingers and made
- 23:54Speaker 4: me purchase this. I got Mac in Me from Vinegar
- 23:58Speaker 4: Syndrome on four K.
- 23:59Speaker 5: Oh Hell yeah, bro.
- 24:01Speaker 4: Nowhere near my BINGO card for twenty twenty five was
- 24:05Speaker 4: Mac and Me getting not just the four K release,
- 24:08Speaker 4: but like a deluxe VSU treatment release. Because this guy
- 24:12Speaker 4: has like the magnet box, the booklet, inside our outside our,
- 24:16Speaker 4: a slipcover. It's brand new, commissioned all over this thing.
- 24:20Speaker 4: This is pretty incredible. And I haven't seen this movie
- 24:23Speaker 4: in decades. That's how long it had been since i'd.
- 24:28Speaker 3: Seen You inspired me to get it after I saw once.
- 24:31Speaker 3: Once you got it in, I was like, damn, man,
- 24:34Speaker 3: I don't know if I could pass this up.
- 24:36Speaker 5: Dude, I grew up on this movie.
- 24:40Speaker 4: I loved it. I was so excited. I showed my wife.
- 24:42Speaker 5: She enjoyed it.
- 24:44Speaker 4: You know, say what you will about the McDonald's dancing scene.
- 24:49Speaker 4: Say what you will about all the coke products littered
- 24:52Speaker 4: all over the movie. Whatever. Genuinely a very very very
- 24:57Speaker 4: sweet movie, one that has great effects with the with
- 25:02Speaker 4: not only the design of Mac but his family in general,
- 25:05Speaker 4: really cool practical suits, puppetry, a combination of effects going
- 25:09Speaker 4: on there. It's just one of those odd like this
- 25:13Speaker 4: came out in nineteen eighty eight. This, this type of
- 25:17Speaker 4: movie is never going to be made today. Man, It'll
- 25:19Speaker 4: just never happen. There's something told. It's like, yes, we
- 25:23Speaker 4: can still do puppets. You know. The visual effects are
- 25:26Speaker 4: better than ever before. We have so much more that
- 25:31Speaker 4: we can do to film nowadays, and they will still
- 25:34Speaker 4: never be able to replicate what a movie like this
- 25:37Speaker 4: did at this time, you know what I mean? Absolutely
- 25:41Speaker 4: so to get it in a four K release scanned
- 25:44Speaker 4: from the original camera negative, a bunch of new extras.
- 25:48Speaker 4: There's a commentary track on here. I don't know if
- 25:50Speaker 4: we need to beyond the blood episode on Mac and Me,
- 25:53Speaker 4: but there is a commentary tracks.
- 25:54Speaker 5: Listen if the demand sayer, you never know.
- 25:59Speaker 4: There's a brand new interview with the writer, director, brand
- 26:03Speaker 4: new featurette with cinematographer and camera operator. There's a brand
- 26:06Speaker 4: new interview with the Alien designer slash Puppeteer, Brand new
- 26:10Speaker 4: interview actors Charlie or Christine Eversol An archival interview with
- 26:15Speaker 4: songwriter Ali Willis alternate climactic shooting sequence. The alternate one
- 26:20Speaker 4: is the one where he actually gets shot. I didn't
- 26:23Speaker 4: know that that was alternate, but yeah.
- 26:26Speaker 1: This is.
- 26:28Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you, wrote this doesn't even feel real.
- 26:32Speaker 4: Like when I got this in I was like this
- 26:34Speaker 4: twenty twenty five? Did I got mac in me on
- 26:36Speaker 4: four K from Vinegar Syndrome? Like, what the hell is this?
- 26:40Speaker 3: So as far as there VSU releases, do you consider
- 26:44Speaker 3: the packaging and care that's put into each one of those?
- 26:47Speaker 3: Probably like top tier out of any label. Uh, it's
- 26:54Speaker 3: up there.
- 26:55Speaker 4: I don't know, Like, yeah, I don't own a lot
- 26:57Speaker 4: of these. I only owned two. I only own this
- 26:59Speaker 4: one own.
- 27:00Speaker 5: Roadhouse same, Yeah, I have that release, but amongst a
- 27:06Speaker 5: few others.
- 27:07Speaker 4: Yeah, they're very very cool. I do wish I kind
- 27:12Speaker 4: of had some insight as to what qualifies a title
- 27:16Speaker 4: as being a VSU, because there are titles that Vinegar
- 27:19Speaker 4: Syndrome puts out that I think deserve a VSU style
- 27:22Speaker 4: release more than sometimes the ones that do get VSU treatment.
- 27:28Speaker 4: But I guess it's you know, up to discretion or
- 27:31Speaker 4: rights or whatever the whatever goes into that. I mean,
- 27:36Speaker 4: it's definitely expensive. I did not pay full price for this,
- 27:41Speaker 4: so I can't say, like, oh, you know, my opinion
- 27:45Speaker 4: on the money spent. But is this the best release
- 27:48Speaker 4: of Macami? We're ever going to get? One million? Is
- 27:52Speaker 4: it weird that it came from Vinegar.
- 27:53Speaker 5: Syndrome the definitive and me the defense?
- 27:59Speaker 4: This is the mac bro, this is the return of
- 28:01Speaker 4: the mac right here. It's pretty incredible, man. I mean
- 28:05Speaker 4: it's a movie that I think we've all been. It's funny,
- 28:08Speaker 4: all the jokes, like all of the comments I've seen
- 28:11Speaker 4: over the over the the past year of Vinegar Syndrome,
- 28:14Speaker 4: like people saying every announcement post people are like Mac
- 28:17Speaker 4: and me, and I'm like, wait a second, is this
- 28:19Speaker 4: no way it's a real thing. So when it came
- 28:21Speaker 4: to life, it was pretty incredible. But movies like this
- 28:25Speaker 4: that like have such a relevance to my childhood, for sure.
- 28:36Speaker 4: It's it's funny how full circle it's come that I
- 28:38Speaker 4: went from a child who played this VHS to death
- 28:42Speaker 4: to now being a collector in in the the the
- 28:48Speaker 4: age of four K, in the age of premium releases,
- 28:52Speaker 4: and to get this in the mail, it kind of
- 28:54Speaker 4: feels full circle and it's something that hasn't really sunk
- 28:56Speaker 4: in yet.
- 28:57Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot of nostalgia. That's tight, dude.
- 29:01Speaker 4: I'm watching this with my wife. I had a smile
- 29:03Speaker 4: on my face the whole entire time, and I was
- 29:05Speaker 4: just hoping, hoping that she was enjoying it, which which
- 29:07Speaker 4: she did so.
- 29:09Speaker 5: So, Chris, I have to ask, do you think this
- 29:12Speaker 5: is better than ET? Fuck?
- 29:14Speaker 4: No, dude, et Et is goat, the ET is goaded.
- 29:20Speaker 5: Dude, I don't know.
- 29:21Speaker 3: I mean, I just I heard word on the street
- 29:23Speaker 3: that you preferred Mac and Me over ET. I just
- 29:25Speaker 3: had to clear it up.
- 29:26Speaker 4: Honestly, dude, I'll let that word go. I mean, think
- 29:29Speaker 4: of it, think of me what you will. No, I
- 29:31Speaker 4: love ET. It's it's really hard for me to even say, like,
- 29:35Speaker 4: I think Mac and Me is a well made movie.
- 29:39Speaker 4: It's very silly. It's it's very like it knows what
- 29:43Speaker 4: it is. Yeah, it does. But it's very sweet, dude.
- 29:47Speaker 4: It has a score by Alan Silvestri that sounds exactly
- 29:50Speaker 4: like the Back of the Future score. Anybody listening to
- 29:53Speaker 4: this is gonna be like, wait a second, does sound
- 29:54Speaker 4: like back to the future When you get yours? There's
- 29:58Speaker 4: at least four instances where it sounds exactly like back
- 30:02Speaker 4: to the future, maybe just like a key down. It's
- 30:06Speaker 4: very odd.
- 30:06Speaker 5: Trust me, you'll be the first one I'm hitting up once.
- 30:09Speaker 4: I want like a FaceTime mid midwatch, you know what
- 30:12Speaker 4: I mean. Like, So, yeah, Mac and Me, beautiful release,
- 30:16Speaker 4: great job, vinegar syndrome. Still wrapping my head around the
- 30:19Speaker 4: fact that this exists, but I definitely am gonna be
- 30:22Speaker 4: diving into it some more. I do want to check
- 30:24Speaker 4: out the commentary track, just for laughs and giggles. Yeah,
- 30:27Speaker 4: and you know, it's not the longest batch of interviews.
- 30:30Speaker 4: They're all pretty much like under twenty minutes, so I'll
- 30:33Speaker 4: go through those as well over the over the coming weeks.
- 30:35Speaker 4: But yeah, that's that's my first pick for tonight.
- 30:38Speaker 3: Very nice, very nice. Well to segue from.
- 30:43Speaker 4: That, how do you segue from Mac and Me?
- 30:46Speaker 5: Bro Dude, it's tough.
- 30:47Speaker 3: I don't know how I can top that, to be honest,
- 30:49Speaker 3: but I've got some Brian to palm a heat coming
- 30:54Speaker 3: at you. I got Dressed to Kill Hell, Yeah, yeah,
- 30:58Speaker 3: So this is one that was a Keino Lorber had
- 31:05Speaker 3: already released, but I couldn't pass this one up. Honestly
- 31:10Speaker 3: from Aero, So the nineteen eighty classic from Brian to
- 31:14Speaker 3: Palma acclaim for its stylish set pieces and lush Pino
- 31:20Speaker 3: Donaggio's score. It's definitely a film that feels very much
- 31:27Speaker 3: influenced by Italian Giallo, and I think that that's why
- 31:32Speaker 3: I just adore this movie so much, so just to
- 31:35Speaker 3: give a little bit of like a rundown on it. So,
- 31:40Speaker 3: after a sexually frustrated housewife Kate Miller played by Angie Dickinson,
- 31:44Speaker 3: has a session with her psychiatrist, doctor Elliott played by
- 31:48Speaker 3: Michael Caine, she silently seduces a man in an art
- 31:52Speaker 3: gallery and it ends in murder and the only witness,
- 31:58Speaker 3: high class prostitute Liz Blake played by Nancy Allen, is
- 32:02Speaker 3: being stoked by the killer in turn, So, for you, Chris,
- 32:09Speaker 3: where does this fall as far as Brian to Palma films?
- 32:13Speaker 5: For you?
- 32:16Speaker 4: Probably my favorite? Okay, being honest with you, I love
- 32:24Speaker 4: Dressed to Kill Like in my opinion, this movie fires
- 32:29Speaker 4: on every single cylinder Michael Kaine's performance is great. I
- 32:34Speaker 4: love Nancy Allen. Yes, in this film, the art gallery
- 32:39Speaker 4: slash museum scene is one of the most like nauseating
- 32:44Speaker 4: sequences I think ever put on films simply for just
- 32:49Speaker 4: it's incredibly clever use of space. You know, the cinematography
- 32:55Speaker 4: is beautiful. There's like you know, you you mentioned shallow influence.
- 33:03Speaker 4: It's all over this. I mean you can just go
- 33:04Speaker 4: on YouTube and look up the elevator sequence and look,
- 33:07Speaker 4: you could. You could pretty much take it from any
- 33:10Speaker 4: any Argento film. You know, it's it's right there.
- 33:12Speaker 3: But it's I thought of the case, the bloody iris. Yeah,
- 33:16Speaker 3: the elevator scene.
- 33:17Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent agreement. I also, are we doing
- 33:22Speaker 4: are we doing spoilers or no?
- 33:26Speaker 3: I mean it's been out long enough. Okay, So this
- 33:29Speaker 3: is basically a spoiler warning. If you haven't had chance
- 33:31Speaker 3: to see Dressed to Kill by this point, just a
- 33:35Speaker 3: heads up.
- 33:35Speaker 5: We're going to dive into spoilers here.
- 33:37Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, you know, less than halfway through the movie,
- 33:40Speaker 4: we we we switch up our main character, the main
- 33:43Speaker 4: character gets killed, and then we completely switch main characters.
- 33:47Speaker 4: We start following Nancy Allen and uh Keith Gordon ye
- 33:52Speaker 4: is his name, right, Yeah, Yeah, when we start following them,
- 33:56Speaker 4: and it's such a clever. Not many filmmakers, I think
- 34:01Speaker 4: I have the confidence to do that, and not many
- 34:04Speaker 4: films I think have the writing or the character development
- 34:07Speaker 4: to be able to do that effectively or as effectively
- 34:09Speaker 4: as Dressed to Kill does, you know, Brian de Palma,
- 34:14Speaker 4: to me, is a very a lot of a lot
- 34:18Speaker 4: of style.
- 34:19Speaker 5: You know.
- 34:19Speaker 4: I like Body Double, it just doesn't have the replay
- 34:22Speaker 4: value for me.
- 34:24Speaker 5: And it's so it's so interesting.
- 34:26Speaker 3: You say that because I think that might be my
- 34:28Speaker 3: favorite film from DiPalma.
- 34:30Speaker 4: Which I mean, I understand why. I think Dress to
- 34:33Speaker 4: Kill just always like it's dude, that movie is so sleezy.
- 34:38Speaker 4: It is.
- 34:39Speaker 3: That's the best part about it.
- 34:41Speaker 4: It's so sleezy. It's almost like I kind of put
- 34:44Speaker 4: that in the same categories like basic instinct. Yeah, it's
- 34:47Speaker 4: like it's like, uh, you know, it's like dirt you
- 34:49Speaker 4: don't mind rubbing in every now and again, you know
- 34:50Speaker 4: what I mean. It just feels it's so it's so
- 34:53Speaker 4: grimy and sleazy, and you know, I just can't really
- 34:58Speaker 4: get enough of it. I keep going back to it.
- 35:00Speaker 3: Well, I know, you and I have talked about it before.
- 35:02Speaker 3: But you know, the erotic thrillers that you get of
- 35:05Speaker 3: the eighties and nineties, I mean, it's just they're so
- 35:08Speaker 3: hard to come by nowadays. And I just feel like,
- 35:11Speaker 3: you know, you get a combination of like the sleeves,
- 35:14Speaker 3: that erotic thriller element to the movie. You get like
- 35:19Speaker 3: Giallo influence, you get like in a lot of ways,
- 35:22Speaker 3: it feels like a love letter to Alfred Hitchcock with
- 35:25Speaker 3: a lot of the set pieces and sequences that play
- 35:29Speaker 3: out in the movie.
- 35:31Speaker 4: Well, I think people would I think people would would
- 35:34Speaker 4: interpret what I'm saying is like you know, uh, oh,
- 35:37Speaker 4: you just want to see Nancy Allen and Lingerie and
- 35:39Speaker 4: you just want to see you know what I mean
- 35:40Speaker 4: like and it's not even that man, But like movies
- 35:43Speaker 4: like this and Basic Instinct have like this magnetic energy
- 35:48Speaker 4: to it.
- 35:48Speaker 5: Yes, that's just.
- 35:49Speaker 4: So like as many times I've seen Dressic Killing, as
- 35:52Speaker 4: many times as I know who the killer is, every
- 35:54Speaker 4: time I watch it, I find something new. I mean,
- 35:56Speaker 4: I just watched this not too long ago with my wife,
- 35:59Speaker 4: and I've never even noticed the panning camera shot outside
- 36:03Speaker 4: of the art museum when she's waving down the taxi
- 36:05Speaker 4: we passed the killer when she drops her glove.
- 36:09Speaker 5: It's very subtle.
- 36:10Speaker 4: It's so and I never noticed that before. So every
- 36:13Speaker 4: time I come back to this movie, I discover one
- 36:16Speaker 4: more thing that I didn't before, because I feel like
- 36:19Speaker 4: it's showing you so much, you know, so Yeah, I'm
- 36:23Speaker 4: I'm right there with you, man.
- 36:25Speaker 5: I love this movie.
- 36:27Speaker 3: I feel like Brian de Palma, if you I mean,
- 36:29Speaker 3: if you go back and look at his filmography during
- 36:32Speaker 3: you know, his run from I would say, to a
- 36:35Speaker 3: certain extent, you know, Sisters in seventy two, but from
- 36:39Speaker 3: seventy six you have Carrie. You know, nineteen eighty you
- 36:43Speaker 3: have Dressed to Kill, and then the following year you
- 36:46Speaker 3: have Blowout. You know, three years removed from Dress to Kill,
- 36:49Speaker 3: you have Scarface. The following year in eighty four you
- 36:51Speaker 3: have body Double. It's pretty impressive. Like he really did
- 36:57Speaker 3: have a stranglehold on.
- 36:59Speaker 5: The eighties with with you know his I mean, he
- 37:03Speaker 5: definitely left his mark, is what I would say.
- 37:05Speaker 4: In the film industry, yeah, people like to kind of
- 37:09Speaker 4: say that Brian Obama is more style over substance. But
- 37:12Speaker 4: I don't when people say that, I don't find anything
- 37:14Speaker 4: wrong in that. You know, movies don't always have to
- 37:17Speaker 4: be super in depth or like have these exclamatory marks
- 37:24Speaker 4: to say about a certain topic or subject. Movies can
- 37:26Speaker 4: just be entertaining. And Dress to Kill, to me, is
- 37:30Speaker 4: just incredibly entertaining. And of course, like you can look
- 37:32Speaker 4: at the movie and kind of say that it's it's
- 37:35Speaker 4: addressing very early conversations about you know, transgender and stuff
- 37:40Speaker 4: like that. Like, you know, you can definitely find those observations.
- 37:43Speaker 4: I do think the movie sometimes is overread in that regard.
- 37:49Speaker 4: I think people think way too much into it because
- 37:53Speaker 4: when you watch or listen to Brian Obama talk back
- 37:56Speaker 4: on the movie, that's not brought up a whole lot.
- 37:58Speaker 4: It's not like he was like, oh, this is what
- 38:00Speaker 4: I want to really address, you know, it's just kind
- 38:02Speaker 4: of like, here's a cool way to have a character.
- 38:05Speaker 4: He dresses up as a woman and then he goes
- 38:07Speaker 4: and he kills you know what I mean.
- 38:08Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I definitely feel like on rewatch, you know,
- 38:12Speaker 3: after getting this. I mean there's a lot of themes
- 38:16Speaker 3: of voyeurism, press sexuality, mental instability, and obviously, you know,
- 38:21Speaker 3: you take Brian to Palma and you put his lens
- 38:25Speaker 3: on it, you know, or seen through his eyes essentially,
- 38:30Speaker 3: you know, I mean, this is what you get it.
- 38:32Speaker 3: He is so masterful at amplifying like eroticism and violence.
- 38:37Speaker 3: And I don't know if a movie like this could
- 38:40Speaker 3: be made today. It's definitely very much of the time
- 38:44Speaker 3: that it came out. But I mean, you know, you
- 38:48Speaker 3: get like you get split screens, slow tracking shots, mirror imagery,
- 38:53Speaker 3: and minimal dialogue and key scenes, and there's just something
- 38:57Speaker 3: about the way that he master fully puts this entire
- 39:01Speaker 3: movie together that just heads you on the edge of
- 39:03Speaker 3: the edge of your seat the entire time.
- 39:05Speaker 5: I swear.
- 39:06Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean one of the best scenes of this
- 39:08Speaker 4: movie is after and forgive me, I forget her name,
- 39:11Speaker 4: the character that we're following in the beginning, who is
- 39:14Speaker 4: his client.
- 39:16Speaker 5: Oh, Kate Miller. Yeah, yeah, by Andreie Dickinson.
- 39:21Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, one of the best scenes is after she
- 39:23Speaker 4: sleeps with the guy from the art museum and she
- 39:26Speaker 4: you know, climbs out of bed, kind of gets half
- 39:28Speaker 4: dressed and then goes to the table to write the note. Yeah,
- 39:31Speaker 4: and it's just kind of quiet and it's just kind
- 39:33Speaker 4: of you know, meandering along and yeah, and then she
- 39:37Speaker 4: goes out into the hallway and then it leads to
- 39:40Speaker 4: this fantastic, very suspenseful chase sequence kind of or chase
- 39:45Speaker 4: sort of sequence. You know. It's moments like that that
- 39:49Speaker 4: I remember the most. I mean, even the museum scene.
- 39:50Speaker 4: The museum scene is one of the tensest of the
- 39:53Speaker 4: whole entire movie. And there's no climax. I mean there is,
- 39:57Speaker 4: you know, when she hooks up with guy a taxi,
- 40:00Speaker 4: but you know, it's so nauseating to think of, like
- 40:03Speaker 4: how well the utilization of spaces, you know, and really
- 40:08Speaker 4: tricking the viewer from perspective into kind of making this
- 40:12Speaker 4: very dizzying scene of just her simply following somebody, you know.
- 40:18Speaker 3: Well subverts expectations where you think the movie is going
- 40:21Speaker 3: to go, because I remember the first time I watched it,
- 40:23Speaker 3: I had no idea it was going to go in
- 40:24Speaker 3: this direction. And even on rewatch there's little key details
- 40:30Speaker 3: I pick up when watching it. I mean, the thing
- 40:33Speaker 3: that I find fascinating after having a chance to dive
- 40:36Speaker 3: into it is there's like the film itself place heavily
- 40:39Speaker 3: with like motifs of doubles. So you have your you know,
- 40:43Speaker 3: two shower scenes two gloves, dual identities, you know, culminating
- 40:47Speaker 3: in the revelation for doctor Elliott.
- 40:50Speaker 5: And I think that.
- 40:53Speaker 3: You know, you even see that in his earlier works,
- 40:55Speaker 3: you know, with Sisters to a More take, an earlier
- 41:01Speaker 3: attempt at it and uh.
- 41:02Speaker 4: Yeah, Body Double. I mean, like there's so much of that,
- 41:05Speaker 4: and film is always like film is always voyeuristic. But
- 41:12Speaker 4: Brian DePalma just had something something different that really I
- 41:17Speaker 4: think made that stand out as it's a recurring theme.
- 41:21Speaker 5: Absolutely for him, you know.
- 41:23Speaker 4: And it's the use of like it's the use of camera.
- 41:25Speaker 4: There's there's always a character that's that's that's like recording something,
- 41:30Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Or there's always blowout is
- 41:33Speaker 4: voeidism through sound, you know what I mean. In this
- 41:37Speaker 4: film you obviously have Keith Gordon, you know, I mean
- 41:40Speaker 4: his character. So it's an interesting, interesting theme that I think. Uh,
- 41:45Speaker 4: I wonder if that's explored in the book. I know
- 41:48Speaker 4: there's a there's a book out about Brian de Palma
- 41:50Speaker 4: that I haven't checked out yet, but one day soon
- 41:53Speaker 4: once I finished his filmography, I would like to I
- 41:55Speaker 4: wonder if that's you know, I'd like to kind of
- 41:57Speaker 4: read in a little.
- 41:58Speaker 3: Bit more for sure, And for this release, I mean
- 42:01Speaker 3: it's stacked with extras. There's actually a brand new audio
- 42:04Speaker 3: commentary by critics Driusella Adeline and Joshua Concole, audio commentary
- 42:10Speaker 3: by critic Mattland McDonald Madona, brand new visual essay by
- 42:18Speaker 3: critics BJ and Harmony Colangelo called Beyond Good and Evil.
- 42:24Speaker 4: Yeah, Bjangelo is incredible, yep.
- 42:27Speaker 3: And then you get another brand new visual essay by
- 42:32Speaker 3: critic Jessica Kretz called the Empathy of Dressed to Kill.
- 42:37Speaker 3: And on top of that, they added in a handful
- 42:40Speaker 3: of interviews, so you have it looks like a lot
- 42:44Speaker 3: of these were from twenty twenty two, so you have
- 42:47Speaker 3: one with Nancy Allen, one with associate producer and production
- 42:53Speaker 3: manager Fred Caruso, and then one with Keith Gordon, and
- 42:59Speaker 3: then new we have some archival interviews as well with
- 43:01Speaker 3: Angie Dickinson, Nancy Ellen, Keith Gordon, and producer George Litto.
- 43:09Speaker 3: And there's a number of other bonus features on here.
- 43:13Speaker 3: But all in all, I mean, for what you're getting
- 43:16Speaker 3: with this release, it's pretty sacked and obviously you get
- 43:21Speaker 3: you know, I would argue probably one of the better
- 43:25Speaker 3: eighties thrillers to add into your collection.
- 43:28Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I have the Criterion release, but if
- 43:31Speaker 4: I get an opportunity, I definitely want to upgrade that
- 43:33Speaker 4: one to four K and I would probably go Arrow
- 43:35Speaker 4: over Kino. But that's just it's just me fair respect.
- 43:41Speaker 4: So I don't want to talk about my next pick
- 43:43Speaker 4: for too long. But I did sit down and revisit
- 43:47Speaker 4: twenty nineteen's Child's Play. This is the Lars Klevberg remake,
- 43:53Speaker 4: which is incredibly interesting because Oriyan, when I had of
- 43:57Speaker 4: made this movie just kind of completely against Don Mancini's wishes,
- 44:01Speaker 4: and we're like, hey, we're just gonna make this, you know.
- 44:04Speaker 4: I mean this was four years before Cult of Chucky
- 44:07Speaker 4: came around. I think Don Mancini was pretty much in
- 44:09Speaker 4: like active pre production development of whatever he was going
- 44:12Speaker 4: to do next with the character. And Oriyan was like, Hey,
- 44:15Speaker 4: we own the rights and we're just gonna go ahead
- 44:17Speaker 4: and do our own thing, and we're going to make
- 44:18Speaker 4: a remake. And that was this, And we saw this
- 44:22Speaker 4: in theaters and I don't hate this movie. You know,
- 44:26Speaker 4: what's your thoughts on twenty nineteen Child's Play?
- 44:29Speaker 3: That one I actually haven't seen, so I know we
- 44:32Speaker 3: were going through and we were talking about some of
- 44:34Speaker 3: the movies that we're going to talk about tonight. That
- 44:38Speaker 3: one I have not seen. I've seen all the other
- 44:40Speaker 3: Child's play or well Chucky films outside of that one,
- 44:44Speaker 3: but worth checking out. What do you think I.
- 44:49Speaker 4: Mean, don't go out of your way. Here's the thing, man,
- 44:53Speaker 4: it's like a really good three star, you know, like
- 44:58Speaker 4: it's so hard because how do you everything? Everything that
- 45:02Speaker 4: you try to do is you know, they're they're trying
- 45:04Speaker 4: to one up the original, which you're never gonna do,
- 45:07Speaker 4: you know, in the biggest fault this movie hasn't. By
- 45:10Speaker 4: the way, I do want to say that I watched
- 45:12Speaker 4: this with the commentary. There's a commentary track on here
- 45:15Speaker 4: by Lars Klubergh. I'll get to that in a second.
- 45:18Speaker 4: But I think where this movie misses the strongest is
- 45:22Speaker 4: in its side characters. You know, Andy is older in
- 45:26Speaker 4: this one than he was in the original. The the
- 45:30Speaker 4: Chucky character is much more technologic, technologically advanced. It's capable
- 45:34Speaker 4: of much more. It's almost like an AI thing to
- 45:36Speaker 4: it where it learns and it kind of adapts. There's
- 45:39Speaker 4: a there's a moment in a movie where he actually uh,
- 45:42Speaker 4: watches like a slasher movie. He's watching these clips and
- 45:45Speaker 4: that's kind of where he learns that he could do that.
- 45:49Speaker 4: I think where the movie miss is the original you
- 45:52Speaker 4: have such an attachment to Karen, you know, Catherine Hick's
- 45:55Speaker 4: portrayal of Andy's brother is so good. Aubrey Plaza has
- 46:00Speaker 4: that role here in the remake, and she just doesn't
- 46:04Speaker 4: as much as I love all Replaza, she just doesn't
- 46:06Speaker 4: have that that that emotional attachment. She cannot create that,
- 46:10Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
- 46:12Speaker 3: It's I feel like it's hard to hit the same
- 46:15Speaker 3: heights that the nineteen eighty eight film hit, you know.
- 46:22Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean, does this film this take on
- 46:27Speaker 3: the film, does it at least kind of try to
- 46:31Speaker 3: leave its own.
- 46:32Speaker 5: Mark or No?
- 46:34Speaker 3: Obviously, I know it sounds like it was more technology based,
- 46:37Speaker 3: but hopefully it's not beat for beat like the original.
- 46:41Speaker 4: No, no, no, it definitely And well, it's kind of
- 46:44Speaker 4: funny because when you want to see a remake, you know,
- 46:47Speaker 4: you want it to be different, but you want it
- 46:49Speaker 4: to you want you want filmmakers to find a way to,
- 46:54Speaker 4: you know, maybe try to do it a little bit
- 46:56Speaker 4: better or improve upon what it did in the original,
- 46:58Speaker 4: in some way, all of the in this movie is
- 47:00Speaker 4: gone because we see right from the beginning what's wrong
- 47:04Speaker 4: with Chucky, like what happened to him? You know what
- 47:06Speaker 4: I mean? It was a pissed off guy who worked
- 47:08Speaker 4: at the factory that just kind of shut off all
- 47:10Speaker 4: the safety things. So already you already know everything, you know,
- 47:15Speaker 4: as opposed to Child's Play, which had the opening sequence
- 47:18Speaker 4: with Charles Lee Ray and the voodoo, so you know
- 47:20Speaker 4: something's up, but you know you have forty minutes until
- 47:25Speaker 4: you have the you know, the the big reveal, you
- 47:29Speaker 4: know what I mean that like, Okay, this is actually
- 47:31Speaker 4: what's happening here. Yeah, this movie has none of that.
- 47:34Speaker 4: It's much more violent than the original, like it's more complex,
- 47:38Speaker 4: that deaths are much more extravagant. But I will say,
- 47:42Speaker 4: and this is this is the biggest thing I took
- 47:44Speaker 4: away from the commentary. I don't like modern day audio
- 47:47Speaker 4: commentaries coming from studio releases because it almost feels like
- 47:51Speaker 4: the studio executive is standing behind the director, you know
- 47:54Speaker 4: what I mean the whole time, kind of like a puppet,
- 47:56Speaker 4: like controlling what he can say. So it's all very
- 48:00Speaker 4: like corporate speak, you know what I mean, but the
- 48:04Speaker 4: one thing that he brought up that I really enjoyed
- 48:07Speaker 4: is how much he kind of took from the ambling
- 48:11Speaker 4: style of filmmaking or seven Spielberg, and he replicates a
- 48:13Speaker 4: lot of lighting in here from Close Encounters or from
- 48:16Speaker 4: various other Spielberg slash Ambulin productions. And this movie looks fantastic. Clearly,
- 48:23Speaker 4: it's shot on digital, so it already has like a
- 48:27Speaker 4: good look to it already, which is not better than film.
- 48:30Speaker 4: I'm not saying it looks better than film, but it
- 48:32Speaker 4: looks looks clean. But there's a lot of fun lighting
- 48:36Speaker 4: in here that I never picked up on the previous
- 48:38Speaker 4: couple times I had seen it, So I did kind
- 48:41Speaker 4: of enjoy the visual experience of seeing the movie again.
- 48:45Speaker 4: But yeah, it's still like a solid three stars for me,
- 48:50Speaker 4: you know. And then the commentary worth the watch where
- 48:55Speaker 4: they listen, Eh, if you're like me and you're really
- 49:00Speaker 4: erotic about this stuff, then yeah, then yeah. But for
- 49:03Speaker 4: the most part, you know, you're not going to get
- 49:04Speaker 4: at a whole lot of dirt on anything, you know
- 49:07Speaker 4: what I mean.
- 49:07Speaker 5: Was it Scream Factory that did that release or was
- 49:10Speaker 5: that studio?
- 49:11Speaker 4: I have the studio release, but I do know Scream Factory.
- 49:13Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, that's interesting. I'll definitely have to check that
- 49:17Speaker 3: out because that one, it just kind of went under
- 49:20Speaker 3: the radar for me. Didn't really hear a whole lot
- 49:23Speaker 3: on it. But I mean, listen, I'm always down to
- 49:26Speaker 3: check out, you know, any movie at least once.
- 49:28Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I have it, like, I'm perfectly fine
- 49:31Speaker 4: owning it as part of the you know, Child's Play franchise,
- 49:34Speaker 4: even though there is a little bit of like like
- 49:39Speaker 4: dirt against it because of what O'Rion did demand scene
- 49:42Speaker 4: by kind of separating him from the franchise he created
- 49:44Speaker 4: and you know, doing this on their own, so that
- 49:47Speaker 4: leaves a little bit of a bad taste. But at
- 49:50Speaker 4: the end of the day, I mean, I'll be honest
- 49:51Speaker 4: with you, broad this movie blows Megan out of the water.
- 49:54Speaker 4: So I'll watch this over Megan all day.
- 49:59Speaker 5: You know. It's that's definitely a statement.
- 50:05Speaker 4: Now it's public.
- 50:06Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris's planting his flag over Child's Play?
- 50:10Speaker 4: What what do you got next for us?
- 50:12Speaker 1: Man?
- 50:13Speaker 5: All right?
- 50:13Speaker 3: So I have and I'm really excited to talk about
- 50:17Speaker 3: this one. So I have building suspense here. Two thousand
- 50:24Speaker 3: and one's Frailty.
- 50:27Speaker 5: Nice.
- 50:27Speaker 3: So this is from Lionsgate Limited. I was pleasantly surprised
- 50:35Speaker 3: with this release because for the most part, a lot
- 50:39Speaker 3: of the Lionsgate Limited four k's so far have just
- 50:43Speaker 3: been steel book, much to Chris's dismay. But yeah, this
- 50:51Speaker 3: one actually came in a nice box set. Lionskate, if
- 50:58Speaker 3: you're listening, please do more these. I was very, very
- 51:02Speaker 3: impressed with everything that this release had to offer, and
- 51:06Speaker 3: it was just it's gorgeous, Like you've got a gorgeous
- 51:12Speaker 3: hard box, the arts incredible, and I hadn't watched this
- 51:19Speaker 3: movie in years, so to go back and revisit this movie,
- 51:23Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I don't think i've seen this since
- 51:25Speaker 3: it came out, and I just remember at the time
- 51:29Speaker 3: this was when I was maybe like first getting into
- 51:31Speaker 3: horror like that, like you know, trying to explore like
- 51:34Speaker 3: other movies that were coming out at the time. But
- 51:36Speaker 3: this is one that I remember liking it, and after
- 51:40Speaker 3: not seeing it all these years now to revisit it,
- 51:43Speaker 3: I was like, really really impressed with this movie, Like
- 51:46Speaker 3: it's definitely not a movie that gets talked about enough.
- 51:48Speaker 3: From the two thousands, I.
- 51:52Speaker 4: Like reality, I don't love it. It's it's weird. It's
- 51:58Speaker 4: part of that, like nine, how do I want to
- 52:03Speaker 4: say before I say this, I want to say that
- 52:04Speaker 4: Bill Paxson's direction is fantastic, But it's part of that
- 52:10Speaker 4: like nineties weird movement of like let's call horror movies
- 52:14Speaker 4: thrillers and try to make them a little bit more prestigious,
- 52:19Speaker 4: you know, kind of trying to get like the Sounds
- 52:22Speaker 4: of the Lambs effect.
- 52:24Speaker 5: Yep, you know.
- 52:25Speaker 4: So FRAILTI is really slow.
- 52:27Speaker 5: It definitely a slow burn.
- 52:29Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very slow. I don't think the payoff is
- 52:33Speaker 4: all that, you know. So it's a movie that I
- 52:37Speaker 4: that I that I respect more than I enjoy.
- 52:42Speaker 2: That's fair.
- 52:43Speaker 5: That's fair.
- 52:44Speaker 4: That's a nice release though. I mean, lions Gate, that
- 52:47Speaker 4: is the best thing they've done under lions Gate Limited.
- 52:50Speaker 3: Yot if listen if they have anything else in the works.
- 52:56Speaker 3: Like I'm telling you, getting it in this hard box
- 52:59Speaker 3: set that justifies how much it is to get this,
- 53:03Speaker 3: because I know I got this and goalies go to
- 53:05Speaker 3: college because they were released around the same time, and
- 53:09Speaker 3: I do not regret it one bit. So keep doing
- 53:11Speaker 3: what you're doing, Lionsgate. I was really impressed with it.
- 53:16Speaker 3: So obviously, you know we were talking about this. So
- 53:18Speaker 3: this is Bill Paxton's directorial debut, so we have it
- 53:22Speaker 3: in four K obviously, and this film centers on the
- 53:26Speaker 3: God's Hand killer who's terrorizing a small Texas community with
- 53:31Speaker 3: his axe willing butchery. So it stars in this film.
- 53:36Speaker 3: So we obviously have Bill Paxton that's in it. We
- 53:39Speaker 3: have Matthew McConaughey. And it's really interesting because I think
- 53:46Speaker 3: this movie toys with some interesting themes, a movie that
- 53:54Speaker 3: taps into religious obsession, moral ambiguity, you have family traumas,
- 54:01Speaker 3: like the psychological impact of that. And then I would
- 54:04Speaker 3: say in a lot of ways, this film I feel
- 54:08Speaker 3: like focuses more on the atmosphere than you know, gore
- 54:14Speaker 3: or just like graphic set pieces like that, and I
- 54:16Speaker 3: think it only services this movie for the best as
- 54:20Speaker 3: a result of that. But overall, it's it's a very
- 54:26Speaker 3: very uh it's a very very thought provoking horror film
- 54:33Speaker 3: or thriller, I guess you could say. And I feel
- 54:35Speaker 3: like over the years it's developed I would say more
- 54:38Speaker 3: of like a cult following to this one.
- 54:41Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's such an interesting plot line to to
- 54:44Speaker 4: you know, follow these kids whose father shows up and says, hey,
- 54:49Speaker 4: you know, I've got this message from God. He's given
- 54:52Speaker 4: us a list of people that we need to kill
- 54:54Speaker 4: because of their demons. And it really dives into that
- 54:59Speaker 4: much more theoretically than it does physically. You know, like
- 55:03Speaker 4: it would be very easy to make this like a
- 55:05Speaker 4: slasher for sure does not do that. In my opinion,
- 55:10Speaker 4: that's the most interesting, uh, you know, approach to it.
- 55:16Speaker 4: Under different leadership, this movie could have been so much
- 55:21Speaker 4: different than how it actually did turn out.
- 55:24Speaker 5: For sure.
- 55:24Speaker 3: And I think what I can appreciate is that, you know,
- 55:27Speaker 3: it's it's a psychological thriller slash you could consider a
- 55:30Speaker 3: horror film, but it's deeply rooted in themes of faith, family,
- 55:35Speaker 3: and what would you consider like fanatics fanaticism.
- 55:41Speaker 4: Yeah, fanaticism. Well well, not that I want to get
- 55:47Speaker 4: into this too heavy, but do you think this is
- 55:49Speaker 4: a Is this a movie that you think is written
- 55:53Speaker 4: from a place of spirituality or is it written from
- 55:55Speaker 4: a place of skepticism on spirituality?
- 56:00Speaker 5: That's a really really good because.
- 56:01Speaker 4: It's almost like it's almost like a blind faith, you
- 56:04Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like this is I think something
- 56:06Speaker 4: that could be on the headlines tomorrow, you know what
- 56:09Speaker 4: I mean?
- 56:09Speaker 5: For sure, I do think it's it comes from a
- 56:12Speaker 5: place of skepticism.
- 56:14Speaker 4: Okay, you know I got the same vibe from it.
- 56:16Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and obviously, like you know, for anyone
- 56:19Speaker 3: who hasn't seen this film, it is like we were saying,
- 56:23Speaker 3: it's slow burned. So you're just you're really trying to
- 56:25Speaker 3: figure out like exactly you know, Bill Paxson being one
- 56:28Speaker 3: of like the main characters in it, you know this
- 56:34Speaker 3: these visions that he's getting, you know, is this legitimate,
- 56:39Speaker 3: like these are actually visions from God? Or is he
- 56:43Speaker 3: just like completely unhinged? And I think it toys with
- 56:47Speaker 3: that very very effectively, you know, in having the audience question.
- 56:55Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, man. Yeah, so it's a good one. I'm
- 56:58Speaker 4: really I'm really happy that lines Gate did a release
- 57:00Speaker 4: that way. I did not buy it. I don't. I
- 57:02Speaker 4: don't have fifty dollars of love for that movie, but
- 57:08Speaker 4: definitely like support, you know, support lines get limited on
- 57:12Speaker 4: this release. I mean, we need, we need them to
- 57:13Speaker 4: know that. We don't need steal books of everything.
- 57:18Speaker 5: Fair. I respect that.
- 57:20Speaker 4: Don't mind the dog anyway, here's a dog. It's just
- 57:23Speaker 4: just Steve's children playing in the background. I'll uh, I'll
- 57:27Speaker 4: go ahead. I'm just actually gonna cover just for times sake,
- 57:31Speaker 4: I'll cover both the final two titles I have because
- 57:33Speaker 4: I really want to talk about your final pick. If
- 57:35Speaker 4: that's okay with you, Yeah, go for it, man, Okay,
- 57:39Speaker 4: all right?
- 57:39Speaker 5: Cool.
- 57:40Speaker 4: So recently got the Screen Factory Mario Baba collection, which
- 57:49Speaker 4: is incredible, good work screen Factory, and I decided to
- 57:54Speaker 4: not start in order, so I picked up and watch
- 57:58Speaker 4: this nineteen sixty six is Kill Baby Kill. This was
- 58:02Speaker 4: kind of Mario Baba's return to gothic horror. Are you
- 58:06Speaker 4: a fan of Kill Baby Kill? Okay?
- 58:10Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, that's that is definitely one
- 58:13Speaker 3: of the highlights from that box set. I haven't had
- 58:17Speaker 3: a chance to watch. Even before this box set was released,
- 58:21Speaker 3: I didn't have a chance to watch all of them, but.
- 58:24Speaker 5: I just remember that being a standout for me.
- 58:27Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, So let me uh, let's talk about this
- 58:30Speaker 4: movie real quick. So, Kill Baby Kill follows a doctor
- 58:36Speaker 4: who shows up to this small Carpathian village to perform
- 58:41Speaker 4: an autopsy as part of an investigation to a recent
- 58:46Speaker 4: kind of series of deaths that have occurred in the
- 58:48Speaker 4: town and when he shows up, he meets up with
- 58:51Speaker 4: Inspector Krueger, who's investigating the case, and kind of gets
- 58:56Speaker 4: caught up in this kind of whirlwind of suspicion around
- 59:01Speaker 4: a ghostly apparition who is in the form of a
- 59:06Speaker 4: child that anytime she kind of wants to, she can
- 59:12Speaker 4: kind of make somebody kill themselves. It's very very interesting,
- 59:16Speaker 4: it's very strange, very creepy, very creepy.
- 59:20Speaker 5: This movie is.
- 59:22Speaker 4: If you want to watch a movie that has incredible
- 59:25Speaker 4: influence over the genre we know today, this is it.
- 59:28Speaker 4: This is kind of the first time we got the
- 59:30Speaker 4: ghost child in this physical form, which is a little
- 59:34Speaker 4: girl blonde hair holding a white ball. It became almost
- 59:41Speaker 4: a subgenre in itself. I mean right away, I go
- 59:43Speaker 4: to fear dot com from the early two thousands, it
- 59:45Speaker 4: was as the Sami's Act apparition, you know what I mean. Yeah,
- 59:50Speaker 4: but this I've now watched this movie twice, so I
- 59:53Speaker 4: watched it just on its own, and then I watched
- 59:56Speaker 4: it with the brand new audio commentary from Megan Navarro,
- 59:58Speaker 4: which is incredible. My favorite thing about this movie is
- 1:00:02Speaker 4: it blows my mind that halfway through production they ran
- 1:00:06Speaker 4: out of money because you would never know. You will
- 1:00:09Speaker 4: never know, dude, Baba A this crew stuck around and
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: worked for free because they respected Baba's vision. And they
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: respected Baba so much that they finished this movie with
- 1:00:20Speaker 4: no pay, which is out of control.
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: It it's pretty remarkable that he was able to complete
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: the film, and you know, I would argue that that's
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: one of his better films. So you know, the end
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: result was you know, definitely worth it.
- 1:00:36Speaker 4: Yeah. Another thing too, is like this movie is pretty
- 1:00:40Speaker 4: much a perfect battle between modern science. Who are our
- 1:00:45Speaker 4: main character, the doctor, Doctor Paul Sway. He is the
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: representation of modern science. And then when we're introduced to
- 1:00:53Speaker 4: characters like Ruth, who is kind of like the local
- 1:00:57Speaker 4: I don't know if she would be like a not
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: like a witch doctor, but like the spiritualists. You know,
- 1:01:05Speaker 4: when we're introduced to her, we kind of have this
- 1:01:07Speaker 4: constant back and forth battle between the two. And one
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: of the faults of doctor Paul s Way is because
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: he comes from a place of quote air quote reality.
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: He feels like he can always find an explanation for things,
- 1:01:20Speaker 4: so he's constantly exploring these things that sounds so crazy,
- 1:01:25Speaker 4: and then he's slowly learning that, you know, that modern
- 1:01:28Speaker 4: science does not solve everything. In fact, modern science in
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: this movie actually results in the death of a child,
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: which is crazy. But yeah, it's just it's it's such
- 1:01:39Speaker 4: a such a great pizza, dude. The atmosphere is absolutely
- 1:01:41Speaker 4: out of control. Another really historic influence of this movie
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: when when people kind of fall under the trap of
- 1:01:52Speaker 4: the apparition, they they get stuck in kind of like
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: this time loop where we see this represented twice in
- 1:01:59Speaker 4: the movie, where there's a scene where doctor Paul Sway
- 1:02:02Speaker 4: kind of runs in and out of a room over
- 1:02:04Speaker 4: and over and over again. Even though he's exiting, he
- 1:02:06Speaker 4: enters right back into the room to the point where
- 1:02:08Speaker 4: he actually catches up to himself before we eventually see
- 1:02:13Speaker 4: what happens to him and then see him again. Kind
- 1:02:16Speaker 4: of towards the latter half of the movie, when Monica's
- 1:02:21Speaker 4: character is going down the stairs and being chased by
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: a little girl and she just kind of loops down
- 1:02:26Speaker 4: the spiral staircase over and over and over again, something
- 1:02:29Speaker 4: we've seen a million times, you know, in genre films.
- 1:02:33Speaker 4: But yeah, I love this one, man. I think this
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: has kind of become one of my favorite Baba films.
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: I was gonna say, we're outside of this film. So
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: you're saying that this is top tier Bava in your opinion,
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: Do you have other ones that you would put shoulder
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: to shoulder with Kill, Baby Kill?
- 1:02:50Speaker 4: I haven't seen a ton. Black Sunday I think is
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: kind of ultimately his masterpiece, Black Sabbath, I would put
- 1:03:00Speaker 4: probably one below. I do love Bay of Blood. I
- 1:03:02Speaker 4: think Bay of Blood is more influential than it is. Like,
- 1:03:10Speaker 4: I respect that movie for what it did for the
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: genre later on when it was being ripped off by
- 1:03:16Speaker 4: Sean Cunningham and Friday the Thirteenth, But I think Bay
- 1:03:20Speaker 4: I think Kilby mc kill overtakes Bay of Blood for me.
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: So as of right now, my current Baba, it would
- 1:03:24Speaker 4: be second for me.
- 1:03:26Speaker 5: Very nice.
- 1:03:27Speaker 3: It's a solid movie. I definitely feel like even for
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: back when this was released, they you know, Mario Baba
- 1:03:34Speaker 3: did a phenomenal job with building the atmosphere and that
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: like looming dread, you know, all throughout the movie, and
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: I mean there's some effects and sequences in there that
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: I feel like would still hold up even today.
- 1:03:49Speaker 4: You know, dude, there's this incredible moment where we see
- 1:03:53Speaker 4: kind of this pov of a child on a swing
- 1:03:56Speaker 4: and the camera does this weird swinging zoom motion. Then
- 1:04:00Speaker 4: there's a you know, the staircase that I mentioned earlier,
- 1:04:04Speaker 4: the spiral staircase that kind of plays into multiple scenes
- 1:04:08Speaker 4: of the movie. And it's beautiful, Like every frame of
- 1:04:12Speaker 4: this movie is gorgeous to look at. And one of
- 1:04:14Speaker 4: my favorite parts about it is, I don't want to
- 1:04:18Speaker 4: spoil this part for anybody especially, but who you think
- 1:04:21Speaker 4: are going to be your heroes when this movie starts
- 1:04:24Speaker 4: are not your heroes. The movie does such a good job.
- 1:04:27Speaker 4: It's subverting where all of the characters end up, and
- 1:04:29Speaker 4: it does it over and over and over again. The
- 1:04:34Speaker 4: movie is so well written and so well put together
- 1:04:38Speaker 4: that every character what we think we're going to get
- 1:04:41Speaker 4: from them in beginning completely changes by the end. It's fantastic.
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: It's it's definitely the storytelling that you get with this film,
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: the atmosphere, you know, the effect of scares that you
- 1:04:57Speaker 3: get in this film. I mean, it's it's definitely. It
- 1:05:00Speaker 3: definitely takes its time with building up you know, the
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: film as a whole, but I like the you definitely
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: are getting the small town horror atmosphere or like aesthetic
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: with this movie, and I can appreciate that it feels
- 1:05:15Speaker 3: more intimate.
- 1:05:17Speaker 4: Oh, the movie's beautiful, Like this village that they shot
- 1:05:19Speaker 4: in is incredible, and Baba does such a great job
- 1:05:22Speaker 4: at establishing the locale. But to kind of, you know,
- 1:05:27Speaker 4: back you up in what you were saying about it
- 1:05:29Speaker 4: takes a little bit of time to get going. This
- 1:05:30Speaker 4: movie's only eighty three minutes long, and it packs in
- 1:05:34Speaker 4: so much into at runtime. It's never overwhelming. The storytelling
- 1:05:38Speaker 4: is just so no, dude, it's so brisk, like there's
- 1:05:41Speaker 4: not a second wasted. There's not a second of this
- 1:05:44Speaker 4: movie that's not contributing to the character or the plot,
- 1:05:48Speaker 4: not to the point where it's overwhelming. If that makes sense.
- 1:05:51Speaker 3: Yeah, would I would say, I mean, I haven't seen
- 1:05:54Speaker 3: all of Mario Baba's films, but I definitely feel like
- 1:05:57Speaker 3: that this is like in the upper echelon of movies
- 1:06:02Speaker 3: I've seen by him. Yeah, and that's a great choice,
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: And that box set is everything that I was hoping
- 1:06:09Speaker 3: it would be.
- 1:06:11Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:06:11Speaker 4: I still have one more commentary I need to watch
- 1:06:13Speaker 4: on here. It's an audio commentary with journalist Scott Neumeyer. Okay,
- 1:06:19Speaker 4: you know I chatted with him a little bit on Instagram,
- 1:06:21Speaker 4: So I'm very excited to check that out within the
- 1:06:22Speaker 4: next couple of days before I move on to one
- 1:06:24Speaker 4: of the other titles in the box set. And I'm
- 1:06:27Speaker 4: just gonna go ahead and swing into the next one,
- 1:06:29Speaker 4: because yeah, you know, my final one to talk about.
- 1:06:33Speaker 4: Last night, I decided to watch Friday the Thirteenth Part
- 1:06:37Speaker 4: two from nineteen eighty one. I have to ask you,
- 1:06:42Speaker 4: say no more, listen, bro, I have to ask you.
- 1:06:47Speaker 4: Let me bring this up first, is it? How do
- 1:06:52Speaker 4: I I think Friday the Thirteenth Part two is the
- 1:06:56Speaker 4: superior over Friday the Thirteenth, Right, Like I enjoy Part
- 1:06:59Speaker 4: two over the first movie. But is it unfair for
- 1:07:04Speaker 4: me to say that because it simply takes what made
- 1:07:08Speaker 4: the first one good and does it better, Like if
- 1:07:11Speaker 4: this movie wouldn't be this good, if the kind of
- 1:07:14Speaker 4: rules weren't already set in motion by the first movie.
- 1:07:17Speaker 4: And is that making sense kind of what I'm asking?
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: No, it's it definitely refined all the elements of the
- 1:07:27Speaker 3: first one that worked and elevates it for that for
- 1:07:32Speaker 3: you know, part two. You know, I've never been shy
- 1:07:36Speaker 3: about saying that I would consider Part two my favorite
- 1:07:39Speaker 3: Friday the Thirteenth film, and it's listen, I get the
- 1:07:44Speaker 3: argument that you're obviously not getting Jason voor H's with
- 1:07:48Speaker 3: his traditional hockey mask. You know, there's definitely things that
- 1:07:52Speaker 3: come after Part three that really define what makes this
- 1:07:58Speaker 3: franchise so great. But Fy the Thirteenth Part two, there's
- 1:08:04Speaker 3: just it's so deep in that camp setting and building
- 1:08:10Speaker 3: the lore behind Jason Orhees that I don't know if
- 1:08:16Speaker 3: I mean, you could there was definitely an argument that
- 1:08:18Speaker 3: could be made about the Final Chapter, but I don't know,
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: I don't know. It's it's so it's so tough, like
- 1:08:28Speaker 3: I would have to say that that Part two has
- 1:08:30Speaker 3: the edge for sure.
- 1:08:32Speaker 4: Yeah, Final Chapter and Jason Lives are my favorites. But
- 1:08:37Speaker 4: Part two is just so barbaric compared to first. And
- 1:08:40Speaker 4: you know, like.
- 1:08:41Speaker 5: Absolutely the movie starts.
- 1:08:43Speaker 4: With the you know, the replaying of the ending of
- 1:08:46Speaker 4: the first movie, you know, which is whatever, and then
- 1:08:49Speaker 4: like people bring up questions of like, oh, how did
- 1:08:51Speaker 4: Jason grow up? And because you know, I get all
- 1:08:53Speaker 4: of that, right, I'm not arguing that any of that is.
- 1:08:55Speaker 3: They are valid, they're very valid points, but you can't
- 1:08:59Speaker 3: think about it, but.
- 1:09:02Speaker 4: I have to say, man, Amy Steeles, Ginny is still
- 1:09:05Speaker 4: one of my favorite characters in the history of this franchise. Right,
- 1:09:09Speaker 4: She's She's fantasy.
- 1:09:11Speaker 5: She's my favorite final girl. Dude.
- 1:09:13Speaker 4: She's great. And I even talk about this in my
- 1:09:15Speaker 4: review that I kind of put up on letterbox. I
- 1:09:17Speaker 4: put up a little just kind of a little thing
- 1:09:19Speaker 4: on there. Tom Tomic Bride as Mark, you know, our
- 1:09:24Speaker 4: our wheelchair bound who reaches a very unfortunate end. You know,
- 1:09:30Speaker 4: his character is great, dude. Vicky is probably I've seen
- 1:09:36Speaker 4: this movie one hundred times, right, and Vicky's death always
- 1:09:39Speaker 4: makes me so sad because like, she she goes and
- 1:09:43Speaker 4: she gets changed, and she's like all excited, you know,
- 1:09:46Speaker 4: she's gonna hook up with Mark, and she's like super flirty,
- 1:09:49Speaker 4: and you're you're kind of like into it because you're
- 1:09:50Speaker 4: rooting for Mark.
- 1:09:51Speaker 5: You're like, hell, yeah, man, get it.
- 1:09:54Speaker 4: Yeah, And then she shows she shows back up, and
- 1:09:57Speaker 4: then her death is so sad, you know, because she's
- 1:10:00Speaker 4: not like, she doesn't fit into any of the the tropes,
- 1:10:05Speaker 4: any of the tropes. Man, She's just kind of she's
- 1:10:08Speaker 4: just there. She just seems like a good person that
- 1:10:10Speaker 4: just kind of got stuck there, you know what I mean,
- 1:10:11Speaker 4: like in that unfortunate you know moment. But yeah, Friday
- 1:10:15Speaker 4: the Thirteenth Part two, Man, it rules. It's really good.
- 1:10:18Speaker 4: There's some really clever stuff in this movie too, such
- 1:10:21Speaker 4: as Vicky's scream into the guitar solo transition. It's like
- 1:10:25Speaker 4: one of my favorite little kind of choreographer not choreography,
- 1:10:28Speaker 4: cinematography bits like editing bits in this movie.
- 1:10:31Speaker 5: There's a lot of charm with this movie too, That's it.
- 1:10:39Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean look at the end of it. Man,
- 1:10:42Speaker 4: I admire what Friday the Thirteenth has done for the franchise,
- 1:10:45Speaker 4: or has done not for the franchise, for the genre,
- 1:10:48Speaker 4: even though it's not my favorite of the franchise. I
- 1:10:50Speaker 4: just think kind of same thing with Final Destination or
- 1:10:54Speaker 4: not funnal Destination too, Saw to where like Saw two
- 1:10:58Speaker 4: doesn't work without clearly Saw establishing the rules. Saw two
- 1:11:04Speaker 4: just ups it enough that it makes it better. Friday
- 1:11:07Speaker 4: Thirteenth Part two just amps it all up. I mean, dude,
- 1:11:10Speaker 4: Mark's death getting the shaddy to the face and then
- 1:11:14Speaker 4: rolling down the stairs in his wheelchair.
- 1:11:17Speaker 5: Would you say that he gets it the worst?
- 1:11:24Speaker 4: Probably we didn't even mention Wait, hold on, I just
- 1:11:27Speaker 4: thought we didn't even mention that that they ripped off
- 1:11:29Speaker 4: Bay of Blood. And with the with the death scene
- 1:11:34Speaker 4: in the bed, yeah, the double impalement. Yep. You know,
- 1:11:41Speaker 4: in every way this movie ramps up, you have more nudity.
- 1:11:44Speaker 4: I mean, the scene with Terry and the lake is
- 1:11:46Speaker 4: clearly just let's shoot as much coverage as we can
- 1:11:50Speaker 4: to get as much nudity as we can, you know
- 1:11:52Speaker 4: what I mean. So, but you know they kill off
- 1:11:58Speaker 4: crazy Ralph. You know, Jason's death when he's hanging from
- 1:12:04Speaker 4: not Jason Voorhes, the character Jason when he's hanging upside
- 1:12:08Speaker 4: down after he gets stuck in the trap is brutal.
- 1:12:10Speaker 4: You know, it's more violent than the first Mark's death
- 1:12:14Speaker 4: is definitely the worst. But I will say Steve Miner's
- 1:12:19Speaker 4: direction is great, right, he does great work with this
- 1:12:21Speaker 4: and Friday thirteenth, part three, this is my favorite climax
- 1:12:26Speaker 4: of the movie. Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Now, I'll say,
- 1:12:32Speaker 4: just when Ginny shows up to Jason's shack that he
- 1:12:38Speaker 4: has assembled in the woods, and she puts on the
- 1:12:41Speaker 4: mother's sweater and kind of stands in front of the
- 1:12:43Speaker 4: shrine and kind of gets Jason kind of fools Jason.
- 1:12:47Speaker 4: I think that that did a lot for the future
- 1:12:49Speaker 4: of the franchise as far as kind of introducing what
- 1:12:51Speaker 4: his kryptonite would be, which is his mother.
- 1:12:53Speaker 5: Clearly, the mythology that's built in this one can't be understated.
- 1:12:59Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah. This also does a great job at copying
- 1:13:02Speaker 4: the the jump scare, but doing it just differently enough,
- 1:13:06Speaker 4: because I remember, well, never suspecting the jump in the
- 1:13:11Speaker 4: first Friday the thirteenth, but not expecting him to come
- 1:13:13Speaker 4: through the window.
- 1:13:15Speaker 5: They got you twice, Chris, he did, But.
- 1:13:17Speaker 4: Also, dude, you know what I was thinking. One thing
- 1:13:20Speaker 4: that doesn't get talked about is Steve Dash's portrayal of
- 1:13:24Speaker 4: Jason Vorhees is so unique because Friday the Thirteenth, Part three,
- 1:13:29Speaker 4: he's like a lumbering idiot Jason Vorhees, Right, He's like bigger,
- 1:13:35Speaker 4: he's really resourceful in Friday through three part two, and
- 1:13:37Speaker 4: he's a little bit funny, Like you know, in the beginning,
- 1:13:40Speaker 4: he kind of leads Alice on this fun little trip
- 1:13:43Speaker 4: of like he calls the house even though he's in
- 1:13:46Speaker 4: the house. I don't know how he did that. He
- 1:13:47Speaker 4: calls makes her answer to the phone after she's done
- 1:13:50Speaker 4: talking to her mother, and then he hides in the kitchen,
- 1:13:53Speaker 4: puts the mother's head in the in the in the fridge.
- 1:13:56Speaker 4: And then in this one he's he's in the bed
- 1:14:00Speaker 4: where he just killed where he just did the double
- 1:14:03Speaker 4: impalement on on Jeff and Sandra.
- 1:14:07Speaker 3: So the one that you were talking about, like the
- 1:14:10Speaker 3: opening sequence, the part that always makes me laugh is
- 1:14:13Speaker 3: this the opening when he takes the the kettle is
- 1:14:19Speaker 3: on the stove and then he politely takes it off.
- 1:14:22Speaker 5: I'm like, look at it. Hell me.
- 1:14:24Speaker 3: I mean, at least you know, missus Voor. He's a
- 1:14:27Speaker 3: tot of manners, you know.
- 1:14:30Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's super resourceful, and he's he's like you
- 1:14:35Speaker 4: you never get this sort of like and I say
- 1:14:38Speaker 4: witty loosefully, this sort of like witty behavior from him.
- 1:14:42Speaker 4: Later on, later on he just becomes this lumbering you know,
- 1:14:46Speaker 4: he shows up and does the kill and then he
- 1:14:48Speaker 4: gets out of there. This one, he's like hiding under
- 1:14:50Speaker 4: the bed sheets. You know, he's playing some games. So
- 1:14:54Speaker 4: it just feels like a different portrayal than what what
- 1:14:57Speaker 4: we got, you know, from this point on, and it
- 1:15:00Speaker 4: it makes it fun you know, it's kind of like, yeah,
- 1:15:02Speaker 4: if you watch any of the sequels after this and
- 1:15:05Speaker 4: then go back to two, you're kind of like, wait,
- 1:15:07Speaker 4: is this the same Jason Voorhees, because he's you know,
- 1:15:11Speaker 4: it's good man. I wish there was a commentary track
- 1:15:14Speaker 4: with Steve Minor for this because I would love to
- 1:15:16Speaker 4: kind of hear some of the insight beyond what we
- 1:15:18Speaker 4: learned in Crystal Lake Memories.
- 1:15:20Speaker 3: He's a really nice in person a meta meta convention
- 1:15:23Speaker 3: a couple of years back, and I just thought it
- 1:15:26Speaker 3: was very interesting.
- 1:15:27Speaker 5: I mean, he.
- 1:15:29Speaker 3: To follow up the first one, I can't imagine, you know,
- 1:15:33Speaker 3: the level of responsibility that you're putting on your shoulders,
- 1:15:38Speaker 3: you know, going into the second one, but then to
- 1:15:41Speaker 3: do something.
- 1:15:42Speaker 5: For part three that's just so.
- 1:15:45Speaker 3: It's not drastically different, but it definitely has like, you know,
- 1:15:50Speaker 3: a very very definitely took some swings, is how I
- 1:15:55Speaker 3: would put it. With the three d angle with it.
- 1:15:59Speaker 4: Well, I think I think there's an interesting conversation to
- 1:16:01Speaker 4: be had there that maybe we'll do as a bonus episode.
- 1:16:04Speaker 4: You know, we'll talk about it off air, but you know,
- 1:16:07Speaker 4: kind of deep diving into Steve Miners two films that
- 1:16:11Speaker 4: he did in this franchise are interesting because frid thirteenth,
- 1:16:15Speaker 4: Part two feels like, you know, there's like an enthusiasm
- 1:16:22Speaker 4: behind it. There's Part three to me, feels much more
- 1:16:24Speaker 4: like a job, which you know, we all know. Part three,
- 1:16:28Speaker 4: working with the three D effects was so stressful in
- 1:16:30Speaker 4: the crew and on Steve Minor and everybody that I'm
- 1:16:33Speaker 4: sure very little of the passion for doing a third
- 1:16:38Speaker 4: film kind of went out the window with the stress
- 1:16:40Speaker 4: of trying to make it, you know, three D. But
- 1:16:43Speaker 4: there's a unique feeling with two over three, which is
- 1:16:47Speaker 4: funny considering it's the same filmmaker, you know what I mean.
- 1:16:51Speaker 3: And the one thing that I think this film just
- 1:16:53Speaker 3: absolutely nailed is, like you know, and we've talked about
- 1:16:57Speaker 3: this before, we talked about on the Burning episode, something
- 1:17:01Speaker 3: that is so important to me when it comes to
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: camp Slashers is the counselors all gathering around the campfire
- 1:17:13Speaker 3: and the way that they build him up. And even
- 1:17:16Speaker 3: with Ginny, you know, played by Amy Steele, she masterfully
- 1:17:22Speaker 3: is kind of like looking at it almost from a
- 1:17:25Speaker 3: psychological angle. When they're out later and they're getting drinks
- 1:17:29Speaker 3: and it's just I don't really feel like we ever
- 1:17:34Speaker 3: got that that type of way of taking on Jason.
- 1:17:38Speaker 3: So for that, I think that this movie is really effective.
- 1:17:41Speaker 3: It has the campfire scene that I think is just
- 1:17:44Speaker 3: so crucial for these type of movies, and the same
- 1:17:48Speaker 3: thing with the burning. I don't know, man, it's it
- 1:17:53Speaker 3: could have gone in a much different direction. I feel
- 1:17:56Speaker 3: like unless you had someone like Steve Minor who obviously
- 1:17:59Speaker 3: knew what he was taking on and did I feel
- 1:18:02Speaker 3: like a phenomenal job, you know, elevating this franchise.
- 1:18:07Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually think, I mean hot take before we
- 1:18:10Speaker 4: move on to our next movie. But I think Friday
- 1:18:11Speaker 4: the Thirteenth, Part two is a better sequel than Halloween
- 1:18:14Speaker 4: two is.
- 1:18:17Speaker 5: Yeah, that's.
- 1:18:20Speaker 3: It's interesting because both of them follow up such an
- 1:18:25Speaker 3: iconic movie, obviously, but the events that take place are
- 1:18:30Speaker 3: not that far off from when the first film took place.
- 1:18:33Speaker 3: I would say, isn't Halloween two is a little bit
- 1:18:36Speaker 3: closer with the timeline.
- 1:18:38Speaker 4: There's obviously been some It's literally Halloween two is yeah, yeah,
- 1:18:41Speaker 4: the minute after, but Friday the Thirteenth is what five years? Yeah?
- 1:18:46Speaker 5: Yah?
- 1:18:46Speaker 3: So okay, I guess, yeah, But it feels like if
- 1:18:50Speaker 3: you're to watch these back to back, they feel like
- 1:18:54Speaker 3: a very very good double feature for both of them.
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:18:57Speaker 4: Yeah, Well it's funny because Halloween two was fired by
- 1:19:00Speaker 4: Friday the thirteenth, you know, and then Halloween two does
- 1:19:04Speaker 4: the thing that I hate, which is the kind of
- 1:19:08Speaker 4: they kind of weaken Jamie the Curtis in that film
- 1:19:12Speaker 4: by like get getting her all drugged up, you know,
- 1:19:14Speaker 4: which kind of feels like a little bit of an
- 1:19:15Speaker 4: excuse to kind of slow her down. They nerved her,
- 1:19:18Speaker 4: Yeah they did, Yeah, they nerved her. So I'm not
- 1:19:21Speaker 4: as hot on Halloween two as I am Friday Thirteenth
- 1:19:23Speaker 4: Part I think frid Thirteenth Part two is a better
- 1:19:25Speaker 4: sequel than Halloween two is. I just think it gets
- 1:19:27Speaker 4: overlooked like people, you know, I was talking about this
- 1:19:31Speaker 4: with my brother in law the other day. Any day
- 1:19:33Speaker 4: of the week, any Friday the thirteenth movie can become
- 1:19:36Speaker 4: my favorite. It's one of those franchises that every time
- 1:19:40Speaker 4: I rewatch one of them, that one kind of becomes
- 1:19:42Speaker 4: my favorite. And it's you know, that's kind of the
- 1:19:44Speaker 4: beauty in this franchise.
- 1:19:45Speaker 2: You know.
- 1:19:47Speaker 3: So I agree with you with the rewatchability. So would
- 1:19:52Speaker 3: you say that you said four and six. Are those
- 1:19:55Speaker 3: the ones that you come back to most often?
- 1:19:57Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Friday Thirteenth Part four I think has the
- 1:19:59Speaker 4: best characters, yes, of the whole entire franchise. And Friday
- 1:20:04Speaker 4: Thirteenth Part six. Tom McLaughlin just made a rock and
- 1:20:07Speaker 4: roll Friday the Thirteenth movie. So it's just fun. You know,
- 1:20:11Speaker 4: you have a Frankenstein as Frankenstein's Monster resurrection of Jason Voorhees.
- 1:20:16Speaker 4: It's pretty incredible.
- 1:20:17Speaker 5: You know, it's pretty badass.
- 1:20:20Speaker 4: It is it is. So let's uh, let's chat real
- 1:20:23Speaker 4: quick about about your final your final pick that you got. Man.
- 1:20:28Speaker 4: I only bring this up because I have a tattoo
- 1:20:30Speaker 4: of this movie.
- 1:20:31Speaker 3: I knew you'd appreciate it. That's why I wanted to
- 1:20:33Speaker 3: save it towards the end. And I don't think you
- 1:20:37Speaker 3: can ever buy this movie. Too many times I tried
- 1:20:41Speaker 3: to talk myself out a getting this, but listen, with
- 1:20:46Speaker 3: fourth of July right around the corner when this was
- 1:20:48Speaker 3: coming out, I couldn't pass up on this one. But
- 1:20:52Speaker 3: we got to talk about nineteen seventy five's Jaws the
- 1:20:56Speaker 3: fiftieth anniversary four case steal book. I mean, what more
- 1:21:05Speaker 3: can you say about this movie, the design on this
- 1:21:09Speaker 3: steal book, I mean, it just is like the cherry
- 1:21:13Speaker 3: on top to a perfect movie in my eyes. But
- 1:21:18Speaker 3: this is a movie amongst the sequels as well, I
- 1:21:22Speaker 3: always find myself revisiting, especially around the fourth of July.
- 1:21:26Speaker 3: It just feels like it's tradition, and especially with the
- 1:21:30Speaker 3: first one, I can't believe, you know, we're celebrating the
- 1:21:35Speaker 3: fiftieth anniversary, but here we are, and this movie is timeless.
- 1:21:45Speaker 3: I go back and forth on this being what I
- 1:21:48Speaker 3: would consider like one of my favorite movies just because
- 1:21:53Speaker 3: of how effective it is. It's Steven Spielberg firing on
- 1:21:57Speaker 3: all cylinders in a life. Lot of ways I always
- 1:22:01Speaker 3: attribute to this movie in Jurassic Park. I don't consider
- 1:22:07Speaker 3: them like one hundred percent horror movies, but I feel
- 1:22:11Speaker 3: like that that was my gateway into getting into horror
- 1:22:15Speaker 3: and wanting to, you know, find movies that made me
- 1:22:18Speaker 3: feel that way the way that I did when.
- 1:22:19Speaker 5: I was younger.
- 1:22:22Speaker 3: You know, when I first saw this movie years and
- 1:22:24Speaker 3: years ago, I mean, we had a pool and I
- 1:22:28Speaker 3: was scared to go in the fucking pool, so you know,
- 1:22:31Speaker 3: they yeah, it's like but it was effective, you know,
- 1:22:37Speaker 3: and and obviously, you know the sequels, the quality varies
- 1:22:41Speaker 3: a little bit, and I don't think they'll, you know,
- 1:22:44Speaker 3: any of these will ever live up to the original.
- 1:22:46Speaker 3: But I don't know, man, there's just something so special.
- 1:22:51Speaker 3: And I know you know this, but this movie this
- 1:22:54Speaker 3: time of year, like it's a perfect summer movie. It's
- 1:22:57Speaker 3: the perfect fourth of July movie to watch. I just
- 1:23:00Speaker 3: have so much love for this movie through and through.
- 1:23:03Speaker 3: But we're getting the fiftieth anniversary four Case Steele book,
- 1:23:09Speaker 3: and the most important, key special feature on this release
- 1:23:15Speaker 3: is the Jaws at fifty the definitive inside story. So
- 1:23:24Speaker 3: this was a just such a fun watch, and we're
- 1:23:31Speaker 3: getting Steven Spielberg sharing an authorized look inside the story
- 1:23:35Speaker 3: of Jaws and this documentary. So this was obviously adapted
- 1:23:39Speaker 3: from the novel, but Jaws obviously continues to influence pop
- 1:23:43Speaker 3: culture and cinema and shot I can't talk shark conservation
- 1:23:48Speaker 3: all these years later, So you get interviews from Hollywood's
- 1:23:53Speaker 3: most influential directors and shark scientists. The legend of Jaws
- 1:23:58Speaker 3: is obviously endless. You also get a bunch of other
- 1:24:01Speaker 3: special features on this release, so you get deleted scenes
- 1:24:05Speaker 3: and outtakes, the making of Jaws, Jaws the Restoration, which
- 1:24:09Speaker 3: is an in depth look at the intricate process of
- 1:24:12Speaker 3: restoring the movie. And then you also get a fan
- 1:24:15Speaker 3: made documentary on this, so it's called The Shark is
- 1:24:19Speaker 3: Still Working and it focuses on the many ways Jaws
- 1:24:23Speaker 3: has helped shape elements of pop culture and influenced a
- 1:24:26Speaker 3: generation of filmmakers. And there's other bonus features on here
- 1:24:30Speaker 3: as well. But the four K transfer is I mean,
- 1:24:36Speaker 3: that's probably in my top ten four k's that I own,
- 1:24:40Speaker 3: even outside of owning the Steel Book, I had the
- 1:24:43Speaker 3: limited edition set before this, and it just I don't
- 1:24:48Speaker 3: think I'll ever look sound any better than this. I
- 1:24:51Speaker 3: think that this is like the definitive release for this movie.
- 1:24:54Speaker 4: I want to talk for a second about Lorent Basro,
- 1:24:58Speaker 4: who directed that Jaw's fiftieth anniversary documentary. For anybody thinking
- 1:25:04Speaker 4: that you're going to get in line, not physical, but
- 1:25:07Speaker 4: not physically, but like you're in for like typical studio documentary.
- 1:25:13Speaker 4: The director of that Lorent Buzzrow. I'm probably butchering that name.
- 1:25:18Speaker 4: I'm trying my best. He wrote a book that's on
- 1:25:21Speaker 4: my coffee table right now called Spielberg The first ten years,
- 1:25:26Speaker 4: which documents extensively the first ten years of Spielberg's career
- 1:25:30Speaker 4: as a director. Right, but dude, are you ready? This
- 1:25:35Speaker 4: guy has three hundred and forty four credits to his IMDb,
- 1:25:42Speaker 4: starting with multiple interviews for Jaws two, the making of
- 1:25:47Speaker 4: Jurassic Park three, behind the scenes material for Carrie Dressed
- 1:25:53Speaker 4: to Kill, Oh My God, AI, Artificial Intelligence eat, He
- 1:26:01Speaker 4: Alfred Hitchcock documentary, Minority Report. Everything that Spielberg has done
- 1:26:06Speaker 4: has something from this guy, almost right. Behind the scenes
- 1:26:08Speaker 4: for War the Worlds he did. He directed behind the
- 1:26:12Speaker 4: scenes for Indiana Jones. This guy has done so much
- 1:26:17Speaker 4: right but ready for this? Let me keep going up here.
- 1:26:20Speaker 4: He did a documentary, he did forty years of ET.
- 1:26:23Speaker 4: He did behind the scenes material for The Post. He
- 1:26:27Speaker 4: did what else do we have here? Holy shit stuff
- 1:26:31Speaker 4: for The West Side Story.
- 1:26:32Speaker 5: Bro.
- 1:26:33Speaker 4: This guy directed my favorite documentary of the year. Well,
- 1:26:36Speaker 4: first of all, he directed The Becoming hitch The Becoming
- 1:26:40Speaker 4: Hitchcock documentary that made a big crash last year. He
- 1:26:44Speaker 4: directed that. He also directed my favorite documentary of the year,
- 1:26:48Speaker 4: music by John Williams.
- 1:26:51Speaker 5: Oh incredible, dude.
- 1:26:53Speaker 4: This guy is masterclass in in in Steven Spielberg.
- 1:27:01Speaker 5: So it's a body of work.
- 1:27:03Speaker 2: Bro.
- 1:27:04Speaker 4: This document I touched one one hundredth of it there. Bro,
- 1:27:08Speaker 4: this documentary is made with all the love in the world.
- 1:27:10Speaker 4: And the most shocking part for me was hearing about
- 1:27:14Speaker 4: Spielberg's mental health after Jawls was finished. Oh yeah, how
- 1:27:19Speaker 4: he would actually go and hide out in the Orca
- 1:27:22Speaker 4: that was on the Jaws ride on Universal's a lot
- 1:27:25Speaker 4: and just kind of sit for hours because he had
- 1:27:28Speaker 4: such bad PTSD from the experience.
- 1:27:31Speaker 3: On Joel crippling anxiety post. What is like a would
- 1:27:36Speaker 3: you consider his magnum opus? I mean, I put it
- 1:27:39Speaker 3: up there, but it's like you're coming You should be
- 1:27:43Speaker 3: coming into this with like, I don't know, you should
- 1:27:48Speaker 3: feel accomplished. This is a huge achievement and yet it's
- 1:27:52Speaker 3: like the opposite for him.
- 1:27:54Speaker 4: Well, three million over budget, one hundred days over production schedule.
- 1:27:59Speaker 4: You know, it's I can't imagine the stress that he
- 1:28:02Speaker 4: went through. And you know he was very open and
- 1:28:05Speaker 4: honest in this documentary. And major props to learn Bosra
- 1:28:10Speaker 4: for capturing it the way he did. Man, this documentary
- 1:28:12Speaker 4: is worth I have the Jaws the is it? The
- 1:28:15Speaker 4: forty fifth anniversary four k the one with the lenticular
- 1:28:18Speaker 4: or is that just a is it a forty fifth
- 1:28:20Speaker 4: or was it just a random four K. I want
- 1:28:24Speaker 4: to say it's for the forty fifth, Okay, it might.
- 1:28:26Speaker 3: Be it would it would make sense time wise, because
- 1:28:31Speaker 3: I just remember that release was a little bit earlier
- 1:28:33Speaker 3: on into when I was collecting.
- 1:28:35Speaker 4: Because I got that and I got the et one
- 1:28:37Speaker 4: with the lenticular as well. Okay, but definitely worth the
- 1:28:42Speaker 4: double dip just to have that documentary alone.
- 1:28:47Speaker 3: I was questioning, not just for the steel book art work,
- 1:28:52Speaker 3: but I was initially questioning on whether or not this
- 1:28:55Speaker 3: was gonna be worth double dipping, And I'm so glad
- 1:28:57Speaker 3: I picked it up. So yeah, I implore anyone who's
- 1:29:02Speaker 3: whether you're, like, you know, a casual Jaws fan or
- 1:29:08Speaker 3: you have a deep appreciation of love for that film
- 1:29:11Speaker 3: like we do, definitely worth like going out of your
- 1:29:16Speaker 3: way for I feel like that's probably it's probably my
- 1:29:21Speaker 3: favorite release of the last couple of months, for.
- 1:29:24Speaker 4: Sure, dude, great great picks for this episode. Man.
- 1:29:29Speaker 5: We brought some heat to the conversation.
- 1:29:32Speaker 4: For sure, man. Definitely some great conversations, like just great
- 1:29:39Speaker 4: movies to talk about, you know what, I mean like
- 1:29:40Speaker 4: a lot of times, you know, and we don't really
- 1:29:43Speaker 4: like you told me what you picked beforehand, and I
- 1:29:46Speaker 4: didn't tell you because at the time I didn't know
- 1:29:48Speaker 4: what I was going to talk about. Yeah, it just
- 1:29:49Speaker 4: happened to pick stuff that both of us could you know,
- 1:29:53Speaker 4: talk about. So it's been a good it's been a
- 1:29:56Speaker 4: good month, you know what I mean as far as
- 1:29:57Speaker 4: watches and releases go. So yeah, I mean, listen, if
- 1:30:03Speaker 4: you if you got this far, if you got an
- 1:30:04Speaker 4: hour and a half, and we intended this for this
- 1:30:06Speaker 4: to be an hour, but we intend everything to be
- 1:30:08Speaker 4: shorter than it ends up, you know what I mean.
- 1:30:10Speaker 4: Uh so whatever, if you made it this far, I
- 1:30:15Speaker 4: I can't recommend enough to go back and check out
- 1:30:19Speaker 4: the Philip Scott interview if not to hear what I
- 1:30:22Speaker 4: think is a landmark episode for us in our show.
- 1:30:26Speaker 4: You know, just learn, get some insight on the behind
- 1:30:30Speaker 4: the scenes. Philip Escott has over three hundred behind the
- 1:30:35Speaker 4: scenes documentaries and features and interviews under his belt. He
- 1:30:38Speaker 4: is the bonus features producer for Second Sight Films. That's
- 1:30:42Speaker 4: his whole entire job. And it was such a pleasure
- 1:30:46Speaker 4: to hear from him and you know, thank him for
- 1:30:47Speaker 4: his time and his effort, and you know, I think
- 1:30:52Speaker 4: it's very awesome of him in his part to be
- 1:30:54Speaker 4: as open as he was about the processes.
- 1:30:58Speaker 3: Absolutely well, I think it's just so cool that we
- 1:31:02Speaker 3: have a lot more movies than I realized we would
- 1:31:07Speaker 3: have in common, especially the love for Italian horror, and
- 1:31:11Speaker 3: you know, he's obviously very familiar with like you know,
- 1:31:13Speaker 3: Faulchy and Jo Diamatto, and you know, we were able
- 1:31:18Speaker 3: to be very candid with him about you know, those
- 1:31:22Speaker 3: those genres of film that we absolutely love.
- 1:31:25Speaker 4: There's moments where you can tell we're kind of phishing
- 1:31:27Speaker 4: for information because you know, when you get a chance
- 1:31:29Speaker 4: to talk to somebody like that, you're hoping you're going
- 1:31:31Speaker 4: to get you know, you're you're talking to somebody who
- 1:31:35Speaker 4: you know, we admire so much, who works for a
- 1:31:37Speaker 4: company we admire so much, and you're hoping to kind
- 1:31:39Speaker 4: of get that inside scoop, not to share, like, not
- 1:31:42Speaker 4: for the sake of wanting to share, but just because
- 1:31:44Speaker 4: you're excited for what they're going to do. But it's
- 1:31:48Speaker 4: been great Man to have this, you know, to have
- 1:31:53Speaker 4: that be the second interview that we've done. You know,
- 1:31:56Speaker 4: the first that we did on our own, you know,
- 1:31:57Speaker 4: obviously the first thanks to your in a movie Den
- 1:32:00Speaker 4: for allowing us to post that episode with Adam Marcus.
- 1:32:05Speaker 4: You know, very it was. It was a very exciting time.
- 1:32:07Speaker 4: And I think anybody who collects physical media, even if
- 1:32:10Speaker 4: you you know, if you know of Second Sight and
- 1:32:14Speaker 4: you own some second site, you know, check it out,
- 1:32:17Speaker 4: get some of that the insider information, because there was
- 1:32:20Speaker 4: some there was some really cool stuff in that oh.
- 1:32:23Speaker 3: Yeah, even even with the Adam Marcus interview, like you're
- 1:32:27Speaker 3: getting a behind the scenes look at you know, everything
- 1:32:30Speaker 3: involved in that film, and you know the legacy that
- 1:32:34Speaker 3: that movie has had, not only for horror films that
- 1:32:37Speaker 3: were released around that time, but also for Friday the thirteenth.
- 1:32:40Speaker 3: And I definitely took away a lot from both these
- 1:32:44Speaker 3: last two interviews that we've done, you know, each of
- 1:32:47Speaker 3: which you know, they're tackling very different content. But it's
- 1:32:51Speaker 3: cool to see, you know, at the end of the day,
- 1:32:54Speaker 3: we you know, we share that love of movies together.
- 1:32:57Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that kind of wraps up
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