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Sydney Sweeney, Below Deck’s Drunk and Bravo Parasites with Farai Bennett · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: Woo, woo.
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  Speaker 4: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 5: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 4: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 3: We are going to get into a very funny, juicy
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  Speaker 3: episode because I have a first time guest who I adore,
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  Speaker 3: Farai Bennett. He is a content creator. He is a
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  Speaker 3: good looking guy. So I say you come on over
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  Speaker 3: to the YouTube and check it out.
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  Speaker 4: He's showing some muscles. But he's really funny. That's really
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  Speaker 4: why I had him, not just because he's got good skin.
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  Speaker 4: How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. How are you?
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  Speaker 6: Thank you for having me. I feel like we've been
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  Speaker 6: flirting with this idea for like a year.
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  Speaker 3: Um, yeah, you came across my like for you page
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  Speaker 3: or something on TikTok.
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  Speaker 4: I started to.
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  Speaker 3: Follow you and I was like, I just love your
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  Speaker 3: funny takes and your enthusiasm on things and they're fresh takes.
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  Speaker 4: And so, and then you came to my party.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So fun.
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  Speaker 3: It was really, really great. I'm glad that you're here. Um,
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  Speaker 3: speaking of a party, I'm just going to say it
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  Speaker 3: one more time. You guys, um, my ticket sales are
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  Speaker 3: doing very, very well on November 14th. So I want
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  Speaker 3: you to get your tickets. It's Friday night. November 14th
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  Speaker 3: at the MGM Grand. And that is on BravoCon weekend.
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  Speaker 3: So this could be your fun Friday night thing. And
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  Speaker 3: it is going to be, I am not getting paid
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  Speaker 3: by Bravo.
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  Speaker 4: I have no state. So I will be, it'll.
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  Speaker 3: Be a very funny, snarky, hilarious show that I'm so
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  Speaker 3: excited for you guys to see.
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  Speaker 4: And maybe you'll even be able to pop by.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I would love it.
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  Speaker 3: And of course, Brandy and Julie will be on stage
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  Speaker 3: with me. So now that's all at heathermcdolland.net. All right,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to talk lots of housewives and pop culture,
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  Speaker 3: but there's the funny stories that just don't stop giving.
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  Speaker 3: Whether they're tragic, we still find the humor in them.
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  Speaker 3: And that is Brandi Glanville and the infamous, the real
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  Speaker 3: housewives of Ultimate Girls Trip, Morocco.
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  Speaker 4: That we will never see.
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  Speaker 1: Which is sad. We'll never see it. Honestly. Like, I
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  Speaker 1: just feel like they should upload it all at once.
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  Speaker 6: Let the audience decide if it was nasty or not.
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  Speaker 3: To remind you guys, this is where Brandy Glanville allegedly
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  Speaker 3: fingered or fondled or whatever. The very sexy grandmother, Caroline Manzo.
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  Speaker 3: She said it was all in good fun. Brandy, Caroline
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  Speaker 3: Manzo said she felt very violated and, Lawsuits are still
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  Speaker 3: in the works. And Brandy was suing, but Brandy's attorneys
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  Speaker 3: have dropped her as a client. So she right now
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  Speaker 3: is not in an active suit. She's not being sued
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  Speaker 3: by Caroline. Caroline's only suing Bravo and production companies. But
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  Speaker 3: Brandy said that since she's been to Morocco, she now
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  Speaker 3: believes that her issues with her skin are because of
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  Speaker 3: a parasite.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: A parasite has entered her skin.
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  Speaker 3: And Vicky is co-signing on it, saying that she's talked
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  Speaker 3: to Brandy and that the parasite goes, you know, through
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  Speaker 3: her cheeks and into her mouth. And that Vicky, too,
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  Speaker 3: believes that she contracted a parasite in Morocco because there
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  Speaker 3: are flies all over the food. And she hasn't been
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  Speaker 3: able to take any kind of shit.
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  Speaker 4: She has to take three colonics a week. If she
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  Speaker 4: does shit, it's what she describes as a pellet.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: And she believes she's got a parasite too from Morocco.
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  Speaker 6: So I feel like she's just spending a lot of
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  Speaker 6: time with Shannon. There's like no way that you're just
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  Speaker 6: discovering that you have like this parasite. I feel like
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  Speaker 6: everyone just cries the parasite card and it's kind of
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  Speaker 6: like nasty a little bit. Like I went to Cabo,
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  Speaker 6: like I went to Mexico like three times this year
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  Speaker 6: and I've been saying, I'm like, oh my God, I
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  Speaker 6: have a parasite. Like, I just feel like I'm like,
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  Speaker 6: my body's just not the same. And my friend and
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  Speaker 6: I are like, oh my God, we have parasites. And
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  Speaker 6: it's like, we really don't. We just eat like shit
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  Speaker 6: all the time. And I feel like that's what's happening. Vicky,
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  Speaker 6: you don't have a parasite in your face.
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  Speaker 1: Brandy, maybe. Well, she does.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Brandy, Terry Dubrow said, I'm going to help you.
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  Speaker 3: And then I don't know. I don't know what happened
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  Speaker 3: because I do think plastic surgery is a kind of thing.
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  Speaker 4: It's almost like a contractor.
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  Speaker 3: Like when you're redoing your kitchen and then your contractor disappears,
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  Speaker 3: it's like impossible to find another contractor to take it
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  Speaker 3: over because they're like, I don't know what this other
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  Speaker 3: person did. I don't know if they did the plumbing right, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: So when you have a plastic surgery issue, And it
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  Speaker 3: might be that with her. I don't know if he
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  Speaker 3: abandoned her, Terry Dubrow, because he was like, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what this is. But I can't believe that with
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  Speaker 3: the PR and everything, how she hasn't been able to
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  Speaker 3: figure out what this is.
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  Speaker 1: There's not one doctor out there that's like, hey, this
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  Speaker 1: is what's happening.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not accusing her. I'm not Elisa Renick. Munchhausen's
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  Speaker 3: by proxy. I'm not doing that.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think there's something wrong.
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  Speaker 4: There is something wrong. I don't think it's just filler
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  Speaker 4: gone bad.
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  Speaker 6: But maybe Terry Dubrow like sends her the bill and
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  Speaker 6: she's like, mm. Nevermind.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's maybe under the radar. Like I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to pay for that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm just, I just really hope that Caroline Manzo
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  Speaker 3: now doesn't also say she has a parasite from when
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  Speaker 3: Brandy allegedly like fingered her and it came through her vagina.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I hope not.
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  Speaker 6: It could be Caroline Manzo's Etsy witch that did all
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  Speaker 6: of this. Like I will say like that could, have
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  Speaker 6: we not looked into that at all?
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  Speaker 1: Like that's a high probability.
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  Speaker 6: Caroline Manzo's always doing like backdoor shit between like the
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  Speaker 6: robbers breaking into Dina's home and then like.
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  Speaker 1: Shit like this.
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  Speaker 4: Wait, who was doing that?
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  Speaker 6: I guess, remember when Dina's house got broken into by
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  Speaker 6: her ex-husband?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, Dina, yeah, that whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Then she wrote a letter.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, that is why I think Caroline Manzo, they're
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  Speaker 3: the theory. I'm going to say these are all theories,
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  Speaker 3: alleged conspiracy, that some people believe that is why she
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  Speaker 3: brought out the lawsuit is because she was maybe talking
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  Speaker 3: about the fact that her brother-in-law, who was married to, Albies,
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  Speaker 3: that guy is already going to prison for orchestrating an
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  Speaker 3: attack on Dina, who was also married to him. So
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  Speaker 3: two brothers married two sisters. It's always confusing when you
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  Speaker 3: say brother. And in that, they don't talk anymore, Dina
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  Speaker 3: and Caroline. Remember, they were very close and it was
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  Speaker 3: lovely in the beginning of The Real Housewives of New Jersey.
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  Speaker 4: They don't talk. That's a big part of it.
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  Speaker 3: So I wonder if she was buzzed and shared too
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  Speaker 3: much and doesn't want, wants.
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  Speaker 4: This to go away.
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  Speaker 3: But I would also, I've mentioned this a few times,
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  Speaker 3: want to start a class action lawsuit for Bravo fans
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  Speaker 3: that have caught the emotional distress of never watching The
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  Speaker 3: Real Housewives of Morocco. And I think we're entitled to it.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm looking for an attorney to take on the case.
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  Speaker 3: And everyone will get between 17 and 18 cents.
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  Speaker 1: No, more than that.
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  Speaker 4: You think we will?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: These class action lawsuits don't always bring in so much.
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  Speaker 1: I just can't believe it's.
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  Speaker 6: Just floating out there in the ethosphere and no one's
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  Speaker 6: just seen it. But someone will hack into that database
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  Speaker 6: one day and find it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think with Caroline's lawsuit, eventually, if
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  Speaker 3: it gets to that place, I think she's hoping for
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  Speaker 3: a settlement, then you would subpoena all the tapes.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: To see if there was something and then.
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  Speaker 6: Do you think if Bravo is found like not guilty,
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  Speaker 6: then they would air it?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I think too.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good question. Okay. Moving on.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about, this is a big thing that's going on.
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  Speaker 3: Sydney Sweeney, the actress, did an American Eagle commercial. And
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  Speaker 3: it was a weird commercial, kind of. But, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's trying to be provocative. You're too young to know this,
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  Speaker 3: but Brooke Shields did a commercial.
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  Speaker 1: No, I remember.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, well, you've seen it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen it, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And she was young, and she was like, nothing comes
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  Speaker 3: between me and my Calvins. And everyone's like, oh, my God,
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  Speaker 3: does that mean she doesn't wear underwear? It's kind of
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  Speaker 3: done like that. Nothing is an original idea.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: As my mother would say, everything comes back in style.
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  Speaker 3: That's why if you've got a big enough closet, don't
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  Speaker 3: give away everything because it will always come back in style.
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  Speaker 3: And so she's got the big jeans on, which to me,
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  Speaker 3: I hate big jeans. I'm a skinny girl jean.
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  Speaker 1: I like a baggy jean.
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  Speaker 4: I think you ought to have like a really good
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  Speaker 4: body to make a baggy jean work.
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  Speaker 1: But I understand. You can make it work, you have
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  Speaker 1: long legs.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I've never even tried on a pair of,
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  Speaker 3: maybe I'll try.
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  Speaker 1: You need to try it.
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  Speaker 4: All right, I'll do it and I'll do a video.
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  Speaker 4: I see women who are.
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  Speaker 1: Like 5'4 doing it, you can 1000% do it.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like you're gonna have a really snatched waist.
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  Speaker 1: You do have a snatched waist.
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  Speaker 4: Well, anyway, who cares.
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  Speaker 3: So she's doing it and she's like, these are my
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  Speaker 3: jeans and jeans are passed down from generation to generation.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's a personality. Sometimes it's a trait, like hair
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  Speaker 3: eye color.
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  Speaker 4: My jeans are blue.
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  Speaker 3: So people interpreted that as Nazi propaganda and that American
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  Speaker 3: Eagle Company is putting out that blonde, blue-eyed girls or whatever,
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  Speaker 3: anyone who's blonde, blue-eyed is superior to other people. And therefore,
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's people doing videos saying that, Not only
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  Speaker 3: should you never get American Eagle, but she should be canceled.
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  Speaker 4: She should never work again. I think this is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is what I really think.
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  Speaker 4: This is what I'm going to say. And then I
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  Speaker 4: want to hear your opinion.
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  Speaker 3: It's just people don't realize that some people are just
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  Speaker 3: in their job and they come up with an idea
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  Speaker 3: and enough people around it. Don't think outside of their
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  Speaker 3: own personal box. That's what I think happened here. I
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  Speaker 3: think someone did the play on words, jeans and jeans and,
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  Speaker 3: And I think it's the opposite. I think their intention
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  Speaker 3: was everybody's jeans are blue. Right. So blue jeans are
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  Speaker 3: blue jeans. I mean, you can dye them black, but
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying like most people, jeans are blue. So she's like,
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  Speaker 3: my jeans are blue, meaning I don't think it had
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  Speaker 3: anything to do with her eye color. I think that's
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  Speaker 3: really what they're trying to get to is just to
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  Speaker 3: play on words. And then once it starts to go
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  Speaker 3: viral and everything, now they're like, well, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: their intention was to to rage bait, and I don't
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  Speaker 3: think they're, but now they're like, let's make the lemonade
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  Speaker 3: out of it, and now there are people that are like,
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  Speaker 3: now I really wanna buy American Eagle, which is also
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  Speaker 3: weird too.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think?
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  Speaker 6: This is where DEI is important, because I feel like
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  Speaker 6: if someone was there, they would've been like, this is
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  Speaker 6: not what we should do. But I also feel like,
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  Speaker 6: core of all of this is like desperation on both parts.
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  Speaker 6: Sydney Sweeney has never met a check that she did
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  Speaker 6: not want to cash. So I'm just like, okay, she
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  Speaker 6: clearly prioritizes visibility over anything, which is why I feel
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  Speaker 6: like she participated in this.
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  Speaker 1: And American Eagle at its core just wants to be
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  Speaker 1: talked about.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So I do feel like it's rage bait-y.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like if Sydney Sweeney like left the jeans
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  Speaker 6: thing out of it and just said, I'm hot, I
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  Speaker 6: have big tits and you should buy from me.
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  Speaker 1: It's all implied.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying you should buy them, but they do
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  Speaker 3: make my ass look good.
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  Speaker 4: No, they don't, actually. They don't make your butt look
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  Speaker 4: really good.
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  Speaker 3: They're, like, too big.
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  Speaker 1: They're, like, too big, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But I think, you know, I think this has happened
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  Speaker 3: a number of times. When Kendall Jenner did the Pepsi commercial.
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  Speaker 1: She's having a great day.
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  Speaker 3: And gave the Pepsi to the guy.
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  Speaker 1: The cop.
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  Speaker 4: The cop for the riots that did it. again, nobody
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  Speaker 4: was thinking it through. No one on her team thought
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  Speaker 4: it through.
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  Speaker 3: The, the, the biggest memory I remember, it was when
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  Speaker 3: I got a call, like, I remember where I was sitting,
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  Speaker 3: TMZ or something wanted my opinion on, can you believe
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: what's going on with Julianna Rancic?
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, what's happening?
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  Speaker 3: And they said, oh, she made this joke about Zendaya,
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  Speaker 3: Zendaya's dreads.
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  Speaker 1: Petulia oil.
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  Speaker 4: Petulia.
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  Speaker 3: And I go, who, at the time, honestly, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: know who she was. She was 18 and on the
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  Speaker 3: Disney show. And when they said, oh, she's, this young
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  Speaker 3: girl on a Disney show, my first thought as someone
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  Speaker 3: that is white and doesn't smoke weed, I thought, is
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  Speaker 3: she a super Christian who's like clean about drugs?
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  Speaker 4: And she felt they were like, had something to do
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  Speaker 4: with drugs. That's what I thought. It's like, like, like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like, you know, like weed or that type
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  Speaker 4: of thing.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no. It's because she is black. And I
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  Speaker 4: was like, oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: But I was also during that time, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: wait a minute. Someone wrote the joke for her. Someone
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  Speaker 3: approved the joke for her. Someone did the edit and
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  Speaker 3: approved it. Then someone saw the final edit and put.
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  Speaker 4: It out there.
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  Speaker 2: And.
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  Speaker 1: She took the fall, essentially.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And then Kelly Osbourne was like, I'm done. I can't
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  Speaker 3: be part of this. And she, like, you know, so
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  Speaker 3: then Julianna's done. And then Kelly Osbourne goes on The
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  Speaker 3: View and says, who's going to clean your toilets, darling Trump?
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  Speaker 1: In the sense that... In the sense of nothing.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like, even people, you know, people make... When
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  Speaker 4: you are living in.
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  Speaker 3: A privileged bubble, which is Kelly Osbourne to Sidney Sweeney
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  Speaker 3: to Kendall Jenner, and maybe the people that you hire
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  Speaker 3: are too, nobody— people are not thinking, how could this be
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  Speaker 3: interpreted wrong?
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  Speaker 6: I feel like— I feel bad for Sydney Sweeney in
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  Speaker 6: the grand scheme of things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Because, like, at the end of the day, she just
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  Speaker 6: wanted to be a part of this ad. And everyone's like, well,
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  Speaker 6: why does she have to participate in American Eagle? Like,
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  Speaker 6: she's so big. Like, she could do Dior.
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  Speaker 1: She could do this.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, guys, I feel like if she was getting
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  Speaker 6: offered that, she would be doing all of that. And
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  Speaker 6: then on top of it, I feel bad because, like,
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  Speaker 6: I feel like American Eagle put Sydney Sweeney, like, in
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  Speaker 6: harm's way of doing this campaign.
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  Speaker 1: Or any celebrity because I feel like... if it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: Sydney Sweeney, say if.
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  Speaker 6: It was Bella Hadid, they'd be like, oh my God,
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  Speaker 6: American Eagle hates the Jews. Or like, if it was
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  Speaker 6: Kim K, it'd be like, oh my God, her jeans
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  Speaker 6: are fake. Like, why would they even put her in this?
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  Speaker 3: And also, why are model and actresses put on a
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  Speaker 3: standard of like having to speak on something so.
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  Speaker 4: Like, no, it's a job.
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  Speaker 1: Like, it's a job.
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  Speaker 3: She had a team that said it was a great deal.
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  Speaker 3: She had a lawyer who negotiated the money. She showed
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  Speaker 3: up at the thing. She did the voiceover. She didn't
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  Speaker 3: think of it as a negative thing either. But I
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: also think, yeah, you know, if you're a content creator
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: and you want to make a big deal out of
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: this and see it as something that, you know, isn't right,
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: then you have that right to.
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: You have that right to do.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: But it's like, it just is a, you know, it's
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: just a discussion, you know. Like I saw this one
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: person stitch it and it was this woman was very
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: angry about it. She was white and, you know, someone said,
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: someone's like, this is this woman's Instagram, you know. Not
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: doxing her. We didn't tell her where she lived. She
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: had posted it herself, so no one did a mystery.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: But I did click on it just to see. Like, oh,
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: I wonder what the— because the woman was very angry, and
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: she was like, this girl should never be hired again,
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: and just stuff like that.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, no.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: Anyway, I go to the Instagram.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: And this woman is doing— pushing.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: A product that is the at-home microneedling.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: And is showing her angry red face and trying to
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: be an influencer herself. And she's a nurse by day
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: but would rather be an influencer.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: And I'm like... Just stop.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Like, everybody's just too hypocritical and too critical. Like, we're
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: all just trying to get by and make a dollar,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: and people make mistakes. Right.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Sydney Sweeney's trying to eat, too. Like, she did this
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: because acting is not enough.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: Like, clearly.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Euphoria's on what? Pause or whatever?
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: I guess it's back, but it was on pause for
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: the longest time. She's, like, looking at her calendar and
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: being like, what am I going to do?
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Like, American Eagle?
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Sure. And also, like, she is sexy. She has real boobs.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, I don't know if that's about the jeans. Also,
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: she has a kind of a... an imperfect face. So
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: she's one of those kind of models from like yesteryear
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: where you weren't perfect. Like she isn't, she's got like
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: unique eyes. She has like an imperfect look, which is
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: very attractive. But at the same time, I don't know,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: I just think that- She's also one of.
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: The few Hollywood stars, young Hollywood stars, that people care
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: about outside of acting. In this day and age of
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: streaming and everything where there's a million people being actors
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: and having jobs, no one's really famous. I can admire
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: the fact that Sydney Sweeney is investing in her fame
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: and being out there, whereas I'm not saying that other
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: people aren't doing that, but she's one of the only
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: few that's young and putting themselves out there in that way.
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: She's leaning into the mess, which I can appreciate.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: I just think this, in this particular case of anger,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: there aren't enough dots that connected.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: And there's enough to be explained that like, I mean,
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: so what do we think about Balenciaga? Do we now
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: think that that whole thing, which I covered too, was
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: on purpose?
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Was that to get us talking?
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Was that just one weird person that put that paper
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: in the photo shoot about pornography.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Child pornography? Or was it.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Because now everybody's wearing clothes again. Everyone's going to the
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: fashion show. Well, do people talk about Balenciaga in the
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: same way? I feel like before that everyone was like Balenciaga, Balenciaga, Balenciaga.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: And now it's like Balenciaga. Like I feel like, I
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: But I also feel like Balenciaga was like an unattainable
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: brand in the first place. So it was easy for
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: it to like.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Because it was so expensive.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, I never bought anything of it.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: And I just think now that we know like how
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: much fake shit is made.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: That's true. You can just go get it.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: 90% of what we see housewives wearing is like they
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: got from, you know, the lady down the street that's
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: funneling it through her garage. So it's just kind of
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: like all of it is just not what it was.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Like now that we know it, it's like there's no
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: secret to it. There's no like, ooh, you have Dior sandals.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: We're like, who cares?
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: Do you find it weird when there's like a Balenciaga
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: store in the most random place ever? Like I'm from
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: Scottsdale and me and my mom walked into the Balenciaga
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: store like kind of right after the scandal. and there's
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: some fake French guy working at the front, and he's like,
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: and I was like.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is Scottsdale, Arizona.
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: There's no way that you are here peddling us in
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: this mall.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I was just like, there's something about it that's so performative.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Every time I see a Balenciaga store, no one's in it.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: No one was there but us, yeah. And also, there's
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: like 12 items.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it's all ugly.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: There's one purse on a huge shelf. The hangers are
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: feet apart from each other. So I'm like, is anybody really.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Like- Shopping there like that? Like, I don't know.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: But then I guess it's part of a bigger conglomerate,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: so I don't know.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Who cares?
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: So there we go. Oh, this is what she said.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Jeans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: traits like hair color, personality, even eye color.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: My jeans are blue.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: Have you seen the TikToks of people just saying random scenarios?
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Yes, but my favorite is, and I saw a couple
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: people do this, so I don't know who did it first,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: but I thought it was so cute.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: They just put jeans on their dog, and they just.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Show the paws, the little dog paws, and then they
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: scroll up, and it's like, I don't know.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: That was the only one I thought was kind of funny.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: filed against me.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: When your free will is about to be taken from you,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: what would you do if it was given back?
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: He said, I have a work dad.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: I need a home dad.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: What happens next?
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: When I came in, he started crying.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Everybody in life encounters hardships.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: What defines them is not those hard moments that they
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: go through.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: It's about what happens next.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: every day was.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: You're worth the work. Listen, Dara, I'm not going to
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: pull punches.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Really quick on the Below Deck.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Everyone's talking about this latest episode of Below Deck because
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: there's this new captain.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: He's cute.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Wait, can we talk about the old captain? I had
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: no idea they, like, kicked him to the curb like that.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: What was his name again? I can't remember his name.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Captain... See?
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: I can't remember it. Captain Curb.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Not Sandy. Sandy's the woman. This guy's Captain Carrie. He
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: was Captain.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: First of all, I hadn't watched Below Deck in a while,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: and someone's like, you've got to watch this really drunk
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: guest on the show. I go to Peacock and there's
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: three boxes of three different shows. One is the hot Australian.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: One is this new bald guy.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: The sailing captain has disappeared. The short sailing one where
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: they did like fancy sailing.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: I don't watch like below deck like this.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: It's too many things. It's become like.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: The hot one, the Australian one is Captain Jason though, right?
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: The one that everybody like is always like fucking at
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: BravoCon or allegedly.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Right. Yeah.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: And then, like, it became, like, why I tapped out
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: of 90 Day Fiancé. Like, there's too many things.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's too many ways.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: And I'm just like, what is this? So, this was... So,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I finally... I had to ask ChatGPT, what.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: season and episode is this really drunk girl on.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: And then they're like, it's this one.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: So I go down to episode nine or 12 or
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: whatever it is. And I'm skipping through all of the
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: people fucking and kissing. And there's a lesbian triangle and
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: all this stuff, getting to all the people working on
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: the ship to the part where these people come, they're
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: returned guests. And this is a friend of the primary
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: and she's So obnoxious and so drunk and literally insane
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: that the captain is like, I'm calling the police to
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: have you taken off.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: And I'm just dying to know.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Want to know what happened?
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Please tell me the scoop. You've got inside scoop. Go.
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: She did get kicked off, but the whole family stayed.
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: She's the only one that had to leave the charter.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: How is she friends with these people? How did she
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: get invited?
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: So I don't really, so basically, so my friend Ari,
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: her dad was dating that woman, the drunk woman.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: So she was like, so I was looking at her
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: story the other day and she was taught and they
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: were having this below deck party and, And I was like,
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: I remember her telling me this. We were just in
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: the Hamptons together. And it was my kind of first
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: time really hanging out with her. Her boyfriend's one of
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: my really good friends. But I remember her telling me
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: this when we were drunk that her dad was going
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: to be on Below Deck. And I was like, wait,
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: so what's the story? And she goes, oh, yeah, no,
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: my dad was dating that girl. They weren't really together
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: anymore by the time they went on the charter, but
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: I think they had planned it before or something. But yeah,
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: she just got really drunk and it's really funny because
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: they pan to my dad and they wonder what he's
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: gonna do and he's like, I don't know, that's not.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: The shit I wanna do. Like, whatever.
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: So yeah, but it was so funny because as uninvolved
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: as he was in all of that, they have this
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: huge party somewhere in Jersey and.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: They're like, woo, below deck, let's watch.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: I guess they're still friends and it's whatever, but yeah,
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: that's the connection.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I hope that if she didn't, if that wasn't
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: her rock bottom, maybe it will be.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Or that she can like laugh about it. Because what
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: are you going to do now?
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: Apparently she like doesn't care. She's like laughing about it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: It's like not a.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Big deal to her. Like you know how people from
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: New Jersey are. Yeah.
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: Like they're just like a, like the christening, it didn't
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: shame anybody in the Judas, the Gorga household. Like why
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: should it shame like these people?
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: So funny.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: There is a new show allegedly coming out. This is
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: a thing that came all, um, Ain't that something entertainment?
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: This could all be bullshit. Now casting, Boise, Idaho Elite.
• 24:25
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• 24:38
  Speaker 1: The what social scene? The Boise social scene? Boise, Idaho.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: There's a social scene in Boise, Idaho. I wonder what
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: that social scene is like. Is it like, what's exclusive
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: to Boise, Idaho?
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: This is what it is.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: There's these places now that in, I'm assuming, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: that have the good tax breaks. So very, very wealthy
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: people go and live there and you have to live
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: there for six months. So in the last 10 years.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: There are cities that literally like every house is $ 30 billion.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: And because they, you know, and so it's, it's on
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: those States. So I believe that this is happening in
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: this portion of Idaho. So then I found this other
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: girl that said, who's like the podcaster at Idaho. I'm
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: sorry that I'm not giving you credit. I'm just like
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: trying to remember everything. And she's like, I don't know.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Do we want this? Do we want this show?
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: These are the questions they're supposedly asking these people, which
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: is like, are you swingers? Who's in financial distress? Who's
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: a cheater?
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: What divorce? Of course.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: All good questions to know in a small community. Right.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: So of course it's not, you know. And then, of course,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: they're going to say, no, this is about Idaho entrepreneur
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: females that are like starting their own Etsy shop.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: It never is. It never is. They'll tell you whatever
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: it is.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Manhattan Moms was supposed to be about charity and it
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: was Real Housewives of New York. They get you on
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: there and their goal is to make the show entertaining
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: for us. It is not to protect your family. It
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: is not to promote your charity. It is not to
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: make you look good. But you can benefit from it.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: You can have fun. And you can go to BravoCon
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: and feel like you're the Rolling Stones.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: So it's just whatever you want.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: Or on the cruises and be treated and sit next
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: to Captain Carrie.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: You can show the world that your husband's an awful
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: dick and divorce him and have a way to make
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: money at the Mohegan Sun with Teresa Giudice. There is
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: a pattern of life that you can take. But you
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: should also know that if you're remotely happy with your
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: husband and your life, you probably shouldn't go on this show. Right.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Only if you are miserable and wanting to get out and,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: and that, and then I'd say, go do it. But
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: if you're rich and living in Idaho, no, you're.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Not doing it.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Don't do it.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Especially if you love your life.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Latest on Denise Richards is she's saying that he has
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: stolen her laptop and her phone. And that has a
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: lot of like intimate photos and stuff. And she's asking
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: the judge that therefore, because he took that, he broke the,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: the restraining order and, This is just getting really, really ugly.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: So it's like jail time. I mean, they're married.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: He's also white, so maybe not.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: Aaron Pfeiffer is not seeing a jail for any of this,
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: by the way.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: You know, this is going to be a real he said,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: she said, you know, horrible divorce.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: He's trying to save his reputation. Don't try.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Has he denied the black eye? Oh, yeah.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: He said that she fell in. Going up the steps.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: So she said the black— this is— okay, and I'm going to
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: try to remember this the best I can, okay? She— what
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I understand is she said she went up to his
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: building where he was still doing his weird practice. And
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: he was out of a freakout, moving these potted plants around,
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: thinking that there were bugs in them, that people are
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: listening to him, which we saw him— Say that type
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: of stuff on the show, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Because he's extremely famous.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: So I do believe that, I believe her story, okay?
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: I want to say I believe her story.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: Same.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: In that he, you know, a physical thing, they were
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: yelling whatever happened. Somebody did call the cops and the
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: cops came and there was nothing and then they left
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: and it was after that that then a.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Physical thing happened causing the black guy.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: He's saying that she came drunk to his office and
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: fell going up the steps, hit her eye, had the
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: argument with him there. And the other story is Jen
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Shah did it.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I was just going to say.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: I just thought of that.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, God, Heather, you're so clever.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: I was literally thinking that entire scenario the whole time.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: No, there's nothing funny about this situation. No, there's nothing
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: funny about it.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: But this is a comedy show, so relax.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: But, I mean, the point is we saw the video
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: of him saying, I'm going to crush your hand.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: We saw him be weird. We know she has a
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: horrible picker.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: We know that she makes the money. And now he's
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: asking for support. He's trying to save his reputation because,
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: of course, he doesn't want to be seen as a
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: you know an abuser however dude forget about your reputation
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: end this follow the rules stop trying to make her
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: look bad and hope that you can like settle and
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: get I mean, he is entitled to something.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Something, yeah.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, he is. They were married for six years,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: and we saw him on the show.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: But if he made her move into the condos and, like,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: all that shit.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: But we also saw... I mean, if we're gonna be.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: If I'm gonna be, like, an attorney for him, and
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: we take out abuse, I'd say he was on these shows.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: He was the one that she said produced her OnlyFans.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Her brand is about being a family with him.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: you know, if it was the other way around, she
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: would be entitled to, she's going to have to pay something.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Right. But how much do you think he should get? Um,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: minus abuse.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's all about getting, so they're
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: married six years. He has to get, he's entitled to
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: three years of spousal support. And, um, But, you know,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: now it's getting so nasty. He's accusing her of not
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: being good to the daughter. She's accusing him of not
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: being good to her.
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: What's her net worth, by the way? I think about
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: this a lot. Like, just the way she spends and
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: the way their lives are. Like, the condos and then
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: the house in Malibu.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Like, is she, like, a multimillionaire?
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Because in the beginning of The OnlyFans, there was reports
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: that she was making $ 2 million a month. I think
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: maybe the first month, maybe she did. All those people
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: signed up. I think the guys that sign up for....
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: For OnlyFans talent.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: For old geezers who have always loved Denise Richards.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Right, but I also don't think they're monogamous to their
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: OnlyFans person.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: So I think after a couple months, whatever, they move
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: on to somebody else.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: That's so true. They're like, ooh, have you seen Bonnie
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Blue's new billboard? I'm going to check her out.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, someone wrote to me. I don't know if this
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: is true.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Said about the Bonnie blue, which is, and the other
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: girl that, you know, goes to does 2000 guys in
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: a day. And another one does 500 a day. And
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: we're like, why is us weekly picking up these stories?
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Every comment under those stories are like, please stop.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: I throw up. I don't want to think about this.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Is this real?
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: According to this person who wrote me, they know the
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: publicist and it isn't true.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: No way.
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: So they're lying about like all the guys are fucking.
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: I always think about that. I'm like, there's no way
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: someone would choose to be that ran through. It has
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: to be like, too.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Much i i thought i've been saying it too i
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: said it earlier on i'm like.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I'd be exhausted and disgusted.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: And where are their videos of use like can you
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: pay for the videos of seeing it or is she
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: just making so much off of the um her only
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: fans because people think i'm watching the girl that does
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: 10 guys a day i need someone to really tell
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: me Like, is there actual video of her doing this stuff?
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Is this all a PR thing and Us Weekly just
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: has a slow day and knows that it gets clicks?
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: Because her excuse can't be like, well, they just didn't
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: make the cut. Like, they didn't make me cum, so
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: they didn't make the cut.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, what?
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: And then how much time do you have in doing
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: the math of it? And how do you find the people?
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: It has to be like a doctor's office. Where do
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: they park? It's out of practice. They all get their
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: parking validated. Can you imagine?
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, if 563 people are coming to a location,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: where are they parking?
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: If it's not a theater, it's got to be like
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: a small studio.
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: It's definitely a small studio that is in a plaza.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: By the way, did you see that?
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Bicycles, e-bikes.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, e-bikes. Have you seen that interview?
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Our scooter's gone forever.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I think they are because everyone was getting hit by
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: a car.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: I don't like it anymore. Yeah, I don't see scooters anywhere.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Well, I think the line visit then got into the
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: electric bikes, which that I'm for.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's pretty good.
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: And I feel like some, yeah, no, you're right. The
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: bike thing is definitely happening because no one's scootering anymore.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: Remember the hoverboards?
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, yes.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: And I was always scared to do it, but it
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: looked so fun. It was kind of a luxury to
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: have one. I bought both my boys those.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: How was that in your household?
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, like anything, it was fun for like,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: you know, a month or two.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Did you ride on it?
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: No, I never got on it. Because the balance I
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: feel is like where it's off. I feel like if
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: you're five years old, you're so good with the hoverboard.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like fun for Christmas and then that
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: was it. Okay, we really got off the subject. Anyway,
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I wish her well. I mean, obviously, he's never going
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: to get his reputation back. That's what he's trying to
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: do with sharing this stuff. He's trying to prove that
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: she cheated on him. We don't care if she cheated
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: on you. We don't like you.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Forget it.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: You're never going to win the Housewives audience. We are
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: going to be team Denise.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Did Nicolette Sheridan cheat on him too?
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: The story is he was with this girl, Tracy Bregman,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: I believe, who was on Young and Restless, Very Pretty,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: also in Malibu.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Then he got with Nicole Sheridan, Nicolette Sheridan.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Nicolette Sheridan, yeah.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Then he was with Nicolette Sheridan. There might have been
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: a crossover when he got with Denise.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: They all live in Malibu. He just went from house
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: to house to house.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: And now he'll find somebody else.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Spousal support to spousal support to spousal support.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: He'll get a girlfriend too, just like Jax Taylor. They
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: will find a girlfriend.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Who do you think he'll date next? It's obviously going
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: to be a celebrity.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: I don't think it will be.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: You don't?
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: No.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, well, not with this abuse.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you who it's going to be.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Who?
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: It's going to be an older, rich woman. Not that
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: much older. He's probably like barely 50.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: 50?
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: So she'll be like 61, and she will have money,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: and he's going to grift into that, and she won't
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: care because she will love just having a man. And
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: she's not going to marry him, and she's not going
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: to will him anything, but he can stock the fridge
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: with LaCroix and fuck her, and she'll be happy to
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: take him to Nobu.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: That's what's going to happen.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I was thinking like Susan Lucci, but that's a better idea.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: No, Susan Luke, she's been married to her husband forever,
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, she has been?
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, let's talk about The Valley.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Did you watch it last night?
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Of course. So there was a first... It was a reunion.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: It was basically all Jax and Brittany. And I want
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: to just get your thoughts on how did you feel
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: watching it?
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, I was riveted.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: I know this is dark stuff, but it is so real.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: And the fact that Brittany said.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: he is waiting to file.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Because he's afraid he's gonna get kicked off the show
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: and he wants to make sure he can get child
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: support from me.
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: Kind of a nasty move that she said that.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I can't believe they kept that in there, by the way.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: I loved that they kept it in there.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I was like, ooh, that's, she just saw the writing
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: on the wall, which is crazy. What did she say?
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: She came in like guns a blazing.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: The voice chat has degraded me. It's so degrading, that
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: voice chat. Her voice, oh my God.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: You know what people have also noticed?
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: And I'm a Britney fan, is that she didn't sound
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: like that in previous episodes.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: No, she didn't.
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: And Zach is from where she's from, and he has
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: like a gay accent. But sometimes the gay accent is overpowering,
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: so I'm not going to like knock him for that.
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: But it's like, why doesn't he have like a little
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: bit of that?
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Tell me what you think.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Or someone show videos, was she, or was she suppressing
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: her accent when she was first here because she was
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: a little self-conscious of it. Maybe. And now it's just
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: like she's just very comfortable.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: That's what I think it is.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I think she's comfortable.
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: I think she strikes me as someone who talks to
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: her mom on the phone every day.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: And that then comes back. But when she goes, she goes,
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: this man caused me to lose my sparkle. And he's like, oh, sparkle.
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: She goes, you literally made me lose my sparkle.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: The sparkle that she's always talking about.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I loved it though, because I know what she, what
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: she was saying, you know? And I also thought it
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: was very juicy that he goes, when I got kicked
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: off the show and it was during COVID and she
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: was making the money and instead of being grateful, I
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: became a dick about it.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: I think that is so.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Honest it was real it was so honest and there's
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: so many women that can attest to that that that
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: happens to them and you think that like why aren't
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: you happy you know and it's and they don't even
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: know I don't even think he knew at the time
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: that he was consciously cutting her down which is why
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: I thought I actually thought he came off well and
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: you know in the reunion I really did because I'm
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: like he is trying to say like In.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Hindsight, yeah.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think going along.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: With going off the show, now he's no longer part
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: of Jack's. The way I understand that restaurant to be,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: because when he came on my show, he said it,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: these restauranteurs came to him.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: He did not have to put any money up. But
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: in doing that, I don't know how much stake.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: I think probably the contract says, as long as your
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: name is on it, we'll give you this portion of
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: this amount a month or whatever it is. So the
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: contract probably came and they're like, you know, you're not
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: popular anymore. Just like what happened with Tom Schwartz. And
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: we're going to go in a different direction. And from
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: what I heard, the place wasn't popping.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Unless there was a night of like a watch
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: party or something.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: No.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Like people weren't just going there on a Tuesday. to
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: like have chicken wings and watch a game.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: I went there on, this was when women's college basketball
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: was like really, really good. Like when everyone was paying attention,
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: like Offset was going to the games. Like it was
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: like a thing. Like people were going, celebrities cared. So
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: like this was on the night that I think it
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: was Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. And I was, I
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: just went there by happenstance. My friend was like, let's
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: go to Jax's. We just want to check it out.
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: And I was like, I'm a little hungry, I guess.
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: First of all, that was the dirtiest place I'd ever
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: been to. My cups were dirty. It just felt weird.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: The Beverly Hills Hotel knockoff wallpaper was just not sitting
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: right with me. Nothing in my spirit was right when
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: I walked in. I was like, this isn't working for
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: I'm very particular about like where I eat.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: In LA, every restaurant is about ambiance, right? It's not
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: really about the food, but if I'm in a good ambiance,
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: like of course, like I'm going to enjoy myself.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: They couldn't even serve me ambiance. Like, okay, fine.
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: And then, like, also, it's empty as hell, and it's
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: a sports bar, and this is the biggest night in, like,
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: sports right now that everybody is talking about, and no
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: one is there. Like, yeah, we're in Studio City, but, like,
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: there's other, like, Rocco's was, like, packed, but no one
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: was in Jackson's.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Like, there's no overflow.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: It just wasn't meant to be.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: I think when it opened, you know, like, they were together,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: and I was, like, rooting for them as a couple.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Were you? Yeah, because they had a child, and I'm.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Just like— Oh, like after that. I had never read
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: a film— No, before.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: We heard that, you know, they're cutting for divorce. Oh, okay,
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: got it.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: When the restaurant opened, you know, they had the fun
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: sayings and the photo— everything like that.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: And I was saying years ago.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Like, you know, a while back, I think I said,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: if Jax and— when he was no longer on the show—
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: I'm like, if they moved to like Florida or somebody, someplace.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: They'd be fine.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: And they opened a restaurant and they made it like
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Planet Hollywood where they made it like all this, like
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: a reality. Like if they made it like all reality,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: not just, just not Vanderpump, but like reality moments.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: And like maybe you.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Would show the hottest reality show there every night. And
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: it's just one of those things that you go and
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: you see the people and like people are fans of reality. shows,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: we'll go there and take a photo and you make
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: a good food. And it's like a Planet Hollywood, but
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: for reality stars. I always thought like that could be good.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: So then when this happened, I was like, okay, this
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: is good. You're laying into the Vanderpump thing. And I
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: remember he said, we're going to do live podcasts here.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: We're going to have all these events. And I think then,
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: you know, with everything that was going on with him,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: I think it lost that momentum. I think when the
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: scant of all thing died down and now all those
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: people aren't on Vanderpump anymore. It just looked like it
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: was just kind of a weird thing.
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: And in LA, everyone's a little bit too cool for
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: school in that sense. Like once it's not happening, you're
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: not going to go. Whereas like people in Florida don't really,
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: they don't.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Give a fuck.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: Like there's just too much.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: They don't have the same access. So it's like, yeah.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: So I felt for them, I felt like, there is
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: still like a love and attachment. I mean, I think,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: I think there's like a love and hate there on
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: both parts. Like, and it is, it is hard to see. And, um,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean, it's just, I mean, God, we'll,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: we'll see what happens.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: With Jax I.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: Do feel bad that she kind of has to spend
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: the rest of her life with him like I think
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: about because here's the thing he did come off well
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: in the reunion I agree but the thing with him
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: is like I just we.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Still have two more parts though so we'll see.
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah that's true but he's just like such a
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: narcissist that it's like is anything you say really genuine
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: like do you really mean it like it's like yeah
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: like Maybe some of that's real, but I can't believe him.
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: I don't trust him. I don't trust what he's saying
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: is real. Britney is right in the sense of he
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: gets nasty really easily and then he's like, oh yeah, sorry,
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: I take it back.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't have done that.
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: He does a lot of I shouldn't have, I shouldn't have,
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: I shouldn't have, and it's like, but you did, and
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: that's why I get mad when people compare Jesse and Jax,
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: because I feel like Jesse's not, in my eyes, Jesse's
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: not really a narcissist. I think Jesse is just a douchebag,
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: and he owns that, and he says, yeah, I was
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: nasty about that, and I meant it, and I kind
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: of appreciate that, versus the faking of, oh yeah, I shouldn't,
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: he doesn't care if he comes, Jesse doesn't care if
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: he comes off great or not, where Jax is like,
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: he's so concerned, even though it's so obvious that you're,
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: at this point, it's obvious that you're not that so great,
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: so it's like, How can I believe all this?
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Now he doesn't have an income from the restaurant. He
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: doesn't have an income from the show. He's not going
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: to be getting, you know, great brand deals right now.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: They might come if he truly walks the walk of
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: like being a sober guy. There might be some good
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: things that come his way. He's going to, he is
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: going to, she is going to have to pay.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. And he's not paying his bills.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: She just did a great, a huge commercial that I
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: saw for Tom's gummies.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Which is, And it was a great commercial. She's like,
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: my stomach's upset. It was perfect. It was a perfect
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: match for her.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: So it's like, unfortunately, she and Denise are going to
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: have to pay these guys.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Maybe they'll get a reality show together. on douches on
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: the bed. I don't know. I don't know.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: But like, they're, unfortunately, so we'll hopefully, I think there,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: it will be a pause. I do think he'll come
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: back and make appearances and get a day rate. Like
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: when it's a birthday party, when it's something that it's like, okay,
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: come along or he has been helpful. I mean, she does,
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: she is going to want him to show up. She
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: is going to want him to show up and be
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: with Cruz. Every mom wants their child to have a dad,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: you know?
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: Like the final straw with her and I feel like
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: with Bravo is obviously like, The abuse, like, the moment
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: he threw the table, it was kind of game over.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: That is, like, because I feel like he could do
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: anything else wrong. Like, attitude is whatever on Bravo, but, like,
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: that is, like, where things get sticky.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: Ooh, and you know what it also is? Janet told
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: me this.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: She goes, you'll understand why he's no longer on the show,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: and I'm just remembering it, that there is ring camera
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: footage of him pushing her into the rose bushes, and
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: she showed it to the other cast members.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: So that is.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: is what the producer saw. I think that is why
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: he's not on the show. Because I think there's footage
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: of him being somewhat physical.
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: And she could leak it at any time if he
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: just pisses her off on camera, but I doubt she'll
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: do that now.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: And then also we had, so supposedly Michelle has stopped
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: following Honey Eyes.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. It's so funny that she's like.
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: Oh my god, I love Aaron at this reunion. She's like,
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: I love him, and we're going this direction, and I'm like, oh, okay.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't fuck with her. I just think she's like.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: You're a disaster.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I hate her. There's something about her.
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: I hate that I'm... I don't want to say I'm
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: team Jessie, but I hate that I lean towards him.
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: Because she tries to make him seem like he's so bad.
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: And he is that bad. But she's just as bad.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: I disagree. I loved what she said when she's like,
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: I woke up one day... And I was like, am
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: I just going to be like this?
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: I honestly thought that was a great moment for men
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: and women to both see whatever relationship you're in to
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: just be like, are there more bad days than good?
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: Like really ask yourself, especially when.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: You're that young and you know, you can get out
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: and you can make your own life. And the whole
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: thing with his mom and her mom. I did like that.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: I like that she was honest about that.
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: I think just kind of where she lost the game
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: is that she tries to put all this bullshit on
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: him about who she introduces him to and all this stuff.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: But I do think she cheated.
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: And I just feel like she gives him this bad
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: guy card, but I feel like she does it because...
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: I don't think she feels guilty, but she knows that
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: he will always hold that over her head. And it
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: almost sucks that.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: She was the one to cheat first.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Here's the thing. The audience, I think, is mostly women.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: Straight women. And when we see someone be awful to you,
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: we're like, so what?
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: We don't care that Brittany got with the guy.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: No, I don't care about that.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: And we don't care that Michelle was talking to this
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: other person maybe before. And we don't care if Denise
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: was talking to somebody before.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Because you're all, we're awful.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: And we have proof. We've seen it.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: We've seen the way you've talked and spoke and, So, like,
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: we don't care. Like, so if you're trying to win
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: the public opinion, you're not going to win it.
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: That's why I get really mad at Jax also because
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: I feel like whatever Brittany did, that was his opportunity
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: to really let it slide, like, after everything she's been through. Like,
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: you couldn't let this one thing go. Like, because I
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: feel like if he let it go, I honestly think
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: if he never gave her grief about Julian, they would
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: still be together.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I really do think that.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: And also, like, he didn't want to be with her.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: She said they had, like, sex, like, twice in three years.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: So it's like, And he's like, yeah, you're right.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: Like, it did push you away. And he was probably,
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: Seven or eight on a good time.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: No stamina. No nothing.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he's like, yeah, well, when you're in
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: a toxic relationship, you don't have a hard-on for your wife, basically,
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: what he was saying.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: Which I kind of disagree.
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: I feel like that, in most relationships, that's what keeps
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: you there. But he's not attracted to her.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: There's both.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: There's the people that you're like, I can't believe that
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: you were still sharing a bed with your husband up
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: until the day that you filed. to people that like
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: have makeup sex when they like hate each other.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: And it's like an exchange.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: There's some people that just sex is a bigger part
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: of their thing. It still means they might hate each other.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: They have like the hate sex.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: And then there's people that really can, if they're not
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: in a good.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Emotional place, just can, it's like the last thing they
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: want to do is go through the motions of sex.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Even if they're like corny. And I think that's what
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: they were.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: Um, what do you think of what is Jasmine going
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: to stay on the show?
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I just, she doesn't do it for me.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: You know, she was a reality show queen.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: She was on. What else was she on?
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: She was on Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, she was on there.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Then she was also on Bachelor with Nick Val.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, I did know that.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: And then, yeah. So, I mean, I think she does well.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Has she done his podcast? That would be interesting.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: I think he had like a beef with her. I'm
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: not sure. But, you know, I think she's pretty. It
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: could be interesting.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Again, if she doesn't really have anything, it's not her
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: fault that like, She's kind of, I don't know.
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: I saw her at Coachella. She didn't see me.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I saw her. I feel bad because she's been in
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: my comments. She's super nice.
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: But I saw her at Coachella and she was in
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: the artist section and I could tell she was just
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: dying to be seen.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I don't know. I just don't see
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: it for her, I guess.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: I also want to say.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: I've had someone write that about me.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: That's fair.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: I saw Heather at a... a Sephora.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Heather Dubrow?
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: No, me.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, oh, oh. Like they said, I saw Heather McDonald
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: at a Sephora and she was just dying for someone
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: to notice her.
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: Well, first of all, the Sephora employees are always hiding.
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: You have to be seen. How am I going to
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: get my right shade? So that's just nasty.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: But also, I'm like, I'm just saying like, you could
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: think that, but I'm also.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Like, I know.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: You're there.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: You're right. Can she not have a good time at
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: a concert? Can I not shop at Sephora?
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: That's true. And I would look for the same.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: So say you're sorry to Jasmine. Just kidding.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Jasmine, I'm sorry that you wanted to be seen.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: She's the artist. She could be seen.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: But I wanted to be seen too.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: But also like, or do I, who am I going
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: to know in here? I might know some people from stuff.
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true. And maybe she's like, there's no service.
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: Maybe she's looking for her friend, but it was just
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: the way I could tell. Cause I've done this before.
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: I guess I'm not knocking you, Jasmine. I've done this.
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: I'm like, who knows me here?
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, so I could just tell.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: Do you like Zach?
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: I love him. And I know him. I knew him
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: before the show.
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: I love, I think what Bravo has needed for years
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: is a bitchy gay guy. A bitchy, fun gay who
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: does not give a fuck about the straight men that
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: he's around. And I love everything about him. I think
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: he's fun.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: I think he's a fun.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: He leans into the gag.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: He's scary.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: He reminds me of an ex-gay friend I'm friends with.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: In that once they turn on you, they.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: Turn on you.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And there's no coming back.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: But I think it's fun to watch.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: But I feel like Jada played him.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: Yes. Okay, so wait. But then this is from Bravo Investigator.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: This was so weird. So I'm reading this. I'm like,
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: what is this? And so he has some merch that
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: has a crocodile, a shit emoji, and a boot.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: And then this person wrote, spent 10 years parasiting off
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: your best friend to get on TV.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: Someone's talking about Zach.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: And somehow after two seasons, all you have to show
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: for it is some merch about me.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Pathetic.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: I'll tag you, Zach, if you didn't have me blocked
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: on everything, lol. But launching and promoting your merch store
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: with a reference to me after all this time is
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: such weirdo behavior. So anyway, I'm like, I thought, okay,
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: because it's crocodile shit boots, okay, is what the three
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: emojis would say. I thought this was Brock, Sheena's husband,
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: because he wore those crocodile boots that people have highlighted.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: They were like high heel crocodile boots like on a reunion.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: And I was like, what? No, it's some other guy.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: It's just this other guy.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, some other gay who wants to be in the mix.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: Who I guess was wearing, yeah, who's just like.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Who is this guy?
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Why did he make this?
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: But I'm like, who's going to buy this shirt? If
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: it's really about some other gay guy, we don't know.
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: It's just so weird.
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: No, I can't with the gay clout chasers on Bravo.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, the Peter thing.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: Peter from Vanderpump.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: Sheena kind of ate down when she responded, being like,
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: that's weird. You asked me to be on your podcast
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: forever ago, but now it's like, fuck me, because I
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: talked about LVP. But I do have to say, I
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: do kind of hate that Sheena is talking shit about
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: Lisa Vanderpump like that.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Because I just feel like, okay, you knew she was
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: using you.
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: Of course she used you for her show, but you
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: didn't care because you were benefiting off of it. But now,
• 52:34
  Speaker 6: you need something to put in your book, I get it.
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: And maybe you do look back with everything in hindsight, but.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: Her book is... A memoir.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: And if you're really going to write about your life,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: she really did. And she's sharing like what she thought,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: what happened. And now in hindsight, what she thinks was
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: was really going on. And you as a reader then
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: can read that part and you can either think, well,
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: Lisa Vanderpump didn't think that she was. didn't think just
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: the same way that like Bravo will say, you know,
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: who's the next couple you think are going to get
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: divorced on your cast? And then someone says it and
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: no one's thinking, wow, like this couple, go, I'd be struggling.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: They have children together. This is who they, they stood
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: in front of a church and said they're going to be.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: And now people are just.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: Like, you're going to get divorced soon. Like, so it's
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: the same kind of thing.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Like, I think that with Lisa Vanderpump in asking and
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: doing things throughout the way, we all watched it and
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: she all thought it and she thought, you know, Sheena
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: being happy and participating and having this wonderful life by
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: being on the shows.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: I don't think Lisa was like, Yeah, I.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Don't think it was like this whole plot and plan.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: But also, we want Sheena to be honest.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: So in the book, she says, now I see kind
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: of like what other, whether Brandi Glanveller and other people
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: would say, or even Elisa.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Like she used me.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Even I believe Lisa Renna kind of hinted that it
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: was Lisa Vaderpump that was like, bring up the Munchausen
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: thing with Yolanda.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, well, everybody knows she did that.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: So it's like she kind of would do those things,
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: drop those crumbs, and see who picked them up. And
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: then some of them were a little more direct in
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: that she just was like, I don't want to fire James.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: So I need you to take James side about this
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: thing where he like fat shamed Katie. And she felt
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: she had to do that with then put her at
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: odds with Katie and which is why.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: But they are doing.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: A job and there's some housewives like a Tamara or
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: like like Sheena that I know. are just their personalities
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: are more like, I'm going to be the star pupil.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do what I'm told. I'm going to
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: bring the good TV. I like when the producers, like,
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: pat me on the head. But then they have to
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: watch these fights back six months later, and then they
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: have to hear from the audience that they were a
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: piece of shit and a bad friend.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: And they're like, I would never have done this if
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: I didn't have a camera in my face.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's also true.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: So that's it.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: But, you know, of course, he... But, like.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Let's say.
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: Lisa, out of the kindness of her heart, didn't expose her.
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: You have this amazing life. Because of this, you have
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: a book. I don't know, I just feel like it
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: was a little bit, I feel bad about the Lisa
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: Vanderpump shaming from the Vanderpump people because When it comes
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: from Lisa Rinna and, like, all those people, it's like, okay, fine, whatever.
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: We'll put, like, yeah, that's Lisa Vanderpump's fault. Like, she
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: was being nasty, especially the Munchausen thing. Like, that was nasty.
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: To me, that was direct because she didn't like Yolanda.
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: But when it comes to the Vanderpump people, like, what
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: would you have had if Lisa Vanderpump didn't intervene?
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's reality stars are bravo.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: are so disposable.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: And then they feel so disposable. And imagine you're just like,
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: you're fine. You're not on Vanderpump. You're doing your own thing.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: You're trying to get somebody. You're studying for your real
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: estate license, whatever the next step is.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Keller Williams.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: And you're watching, you know, and all of a sudden it's, oh,
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: there's a new shift in town.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: Out with the old and in with the new. And
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: it's like.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: The help wanted sign.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, am I old? Like, I'm 40. Like,
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: am I really just done? Like, is this it?
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: And it is really like hard to think about that.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: And it's like a different version of Hollywood.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: It's been happening.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: It's like Reese Witherspoon even talked about, I can't get
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: movies anymore. So I have to start, you know, start
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: a production company. And of course she's killing it, but
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: there are not a lot of reality stars can go
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: to the next thing.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: Schwartz and Sandy's is done.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: How many times are people going to go see them
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: like perform karaoke?
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: No.
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: Like, you know what I mean?
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: So they have to get up. Not everyone's getting to
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: be the host of Love Island. No, exactly.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: So it's like, And yes, they have this, but they
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: can be better. I mean, she didn't reveal anything that bad.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I guess that's true.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: It is hard, I will say.
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: Also, I noticed this with a lot of the housewives
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: that are on cities that aren't based in LA. I
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: think Sheena is lucky in the sense that she lives here.
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: She has more connections to doing something later. Whereas, like,
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: if I'm, like, Robin Dixon and I came from Potomac
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: and now I'm, like, thrust into being this, like, or
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: almost having to be, like.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: This entertainer. Right.
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: And then, like, you're off Housewives and you have this
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: podcast and you're like, wait, why am I doing this? Like,
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: so I do, like, I make fun of Gina, but, like,
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: it's great that she's a real estate agent. Like, she
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: has a real job to go back to, like, once
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: this is all over and, like, whatever. But, like, I,
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: so I do think about that, though, with other housewives
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: that live other places.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Like, what? Like, Heather Gay is going to be great
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: after this. Like, say she's not on Salt Lake City.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Because she already had the beauty labs. It's a great concept.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: She already has a couple of them.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: So, yeah.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: It's great.
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: But what is Whitney Rose going to do?
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: Well, it's funny that you ask that. We are doing
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: Julie with Intention.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: And they're small gold with different kind of astrological signs.
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: And I'm going to relaunch a... Beauty Rose, whatever it is,
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: Rose Beauty.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Exclusive on Alibaba.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like, no, it'll just be, like, another thing, yeah.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: And she, or, you know, or you go to do a,
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: or you were part of a drag show with Teresa
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: and you go to Australia and you get your check.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: And you know what I think about also?
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: But I also say, make your money while you can
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: make it, especially in this time, because, like, take every
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: check you can. Because then when it does really dry up,
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: you would be like, I can't believe I didn't do
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: that $ 10, 000 gig two weeks ago.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, Joan Rivers would take every single thing.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: And she was smart for that.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: And she had money.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: But she was like, this may be the last time
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: they ask me. And that was her thing. Other people
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: are like, I'm going to be a little more selective
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: because I can. And then other people are thinking it's
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: never going to end.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: And it does.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: And then they look back and regret, well, I should have,
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: you know, I should have done a couple more brand
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: deals or a couple more appearances or whatever.
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's true.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: I love analyzing this shit. I'm just analyzing forever. That's
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: why I love it. And that's why I have like,
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: I have, I can relate to these women. I have
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: empathies for these women. I see, I see what they're doing.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: But do you ever feel like there's some housewives who
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: are just there to be there?
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Like, I feel like that.
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: About Emily Simpson. I'm like, you're a lawyer, but like,
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: what are you doing? Like, allegedly, you know, her in-laws
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: are funding her lifestyle, allegedly. So it's like, are you
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: just here for the gag and for the fun? Because
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: what are, what are you contributing?
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you something.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: My sister's an attorney and it's a lot more easy
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: and a lot more fun to be a real housewife.
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: It's fucking hard work to be a lawyer. It's not
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: all you going up and being in court. And I mean,
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: it's hours and hours of work. It's dealing with difficult people.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: It's like, it's a hard ass job and it's not
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: as lucrative.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: People think, you know, it's depending on what lawyer you are.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: Like why?
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: Of course you're like, or do glam and have people
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: write you and say, you're so funny and we love you.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: And cameras are there. Like, It's very rare that someone
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: would not want to do it.
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: If you're auditioning for it, you want to do it
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: and you want to stay on it forever.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I get it.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: And Vicky still does insurance.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: Right, and now she's using her social media to be like,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: we just have new insurance policies right now.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Because she's like, this is it.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to bring back Vicky.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: Because now she's said too many things. One, that she
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: had got a parasite from Morocco.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: But also, like, she's, you know, now has this new
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: way of like, I don't like all this fighting.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: Well, then forget it.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Vicky's problem is that she took it all way too personally.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: I feel like.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 6: What Vicky... Which she has every right to find it,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: to take it personally. I think what Vicky should have
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 6: done was never, ever, ever take that friend contract. And
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: I feel like that is where she... When she initially
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: was demoted, I feel like she should have never done that.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 6: I feel like she should have done what Tamara did
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 6: and just stayed quiet, left. Not stayed quiet, but just
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: not say anything. She was on for so long. Vicky,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: did you really like being a real housewife that bad?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: You were in disarray at all times. I feel like
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: if she... Like, just kind of let it go, took
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: the high road. She would have been back, I really think.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: But I think too much has happened. Too much nonsense
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: has happened. And then, like, it's also who she aligns
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: herself with from time to time.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Like, it's just a mess.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: So I feel like she was just too vocal about
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: being upset and made it everyone's problem. It made her more, like,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: insufferable than she was when she was on.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, I really feel like the housewives situation is
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: an addiction.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: And they, you know, they just can't give it up.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: Or even if they leave and then they come back,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: like Gretchen, they're like, You know how people now are
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: like sober for 10 years and they're like, you know what?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: I think I can drink again.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: And it's like, and they do. Then they do.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: And then they're like out of control.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: And now it's like, oh my God, what did I
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: get myself into? Like I was having a good life
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: just doing brand deals and putting bows in my daughter's
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: hair and hanging out with Slade. And now I'm like
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: back being scrutinized because she did that dumb video.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, which she, I cannot. Did you see that video?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: Yes, I saw the video.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: That was taken down so fast.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: Why don't you describe the video?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 6: The video is basically like, it was her and Jen,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: and they were like, we're taking down housewives.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: And like, Gretchen is doing, is squinting her eye.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: They're working out. They're working out.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: And they're at a gym, clearly.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: And like, Gretchen is squinting her eyes and doing this
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: weird karate chop thing. Jen's doing it too, but just
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 6: not being as racist, which like, what does it matter
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: in the grand scheme of things?
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: But, like, it was, like, kind of a dig at Katie,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: I feel. That was just really nasty. It's like, what would...
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: But Gretchen.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: Has no DEI. See, I'm gonna say... Gretchen has no DEI.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say when they did that dumb.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: Asian soundtrack of like karate or Kung Fu or whatever.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: They weren't even thinking of Katie. They were not putting
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: the two to two together. They just thought this was funny.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: But again, just like the American Eagle, they're dumb.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: They were dumb. They're dumb. They're not funny. And they
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: actually didn't think it through.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: But, And then I can imagine they did it, and
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: then someone texted her and was like, dude, take that
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: down now.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: I bet you it went through all of the girls
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: that don't like her, and they were like, oh, this
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: is really nasty.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: People saved it right away, but she probably got a
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: text from a friend or somebody that was like, Take
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: that down.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: And she's like, what?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: We're just doing a workout thing. No, don't you get it?
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: It's like an Asian sound. You know, like that's probably
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: what's going to happen.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: Well, Tamara did post like on her threads of Jen
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: being like, be careful of the company that you keep,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: like she said that in the show, and then it
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: was an edit of the whole video. And I was like, wait, okay,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: she kind of ate with that. I'm like, I don't know.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 6: By the way, I forgot to mention this. Do you
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: remember in the latest episode when Heather is meeting up
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: with Jen, and she's clearly in Huntington Beach, and then
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: she asks the waitress, she goes, what are espresso martinis
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 6: like in these parts? she's wearing also she's wearing this
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: like all black like sequined blazer like I can't believe
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: we had me.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: Filming it was like a lunch yeah she.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: Goes why am I here at Huntington Beach and why
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: am I with Jen and what is this dive bar
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: like yeah she's like which is that the waitress looked
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: at her.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Like in these parts like.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: And they're like well we don't put any cream in
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: it and then they show them like it's creamy yeah
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: it's weird so weird I don't know why we always
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: have to spend so much time on like ordering the
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: food um All right, I'm just pulling one line.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: Well, apparently Andy Cohen likes that. He likes when they talk.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 6: He likes seeing them order. He thinks it makes them real.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: Okay. That makes more sense. Real Housewives of Miami, we're
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: going to talk a little bit about it.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: So, Gertie basically pulled a Kenya Moore, and she is
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: in a fight with this woman named Julia, and she
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: had a big event, celebration of life, because she's post-cancer,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: but she decided to come back on stage and and go,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: by the way, I'm going to share my truth. Here's
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: all of our text messages on a screen while people.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: Are like, what is going on?
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, what if someone was at the Kenya
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: Moore event and then was at this one where Kenya.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Moore was showing video of like, yeah.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: I was like, what is going on? So anyway, she
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: has since explained it, Gertie. And basically what it is
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: is the fight was Julia– They all got invited to
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: go on like a two-day trip on a big fancy
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: celebrity cruise for free just so they would post about it.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: And all these housewives and a lot of influencers got invited.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: So they were getting paid, but they got invited to go.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: So they have fun together and they go. And it's
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: just like out of Miami, twirl around near the Bahamas
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: and come home. Two nights.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: Gertie had just come home from... from doing it.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: And, uh, and, and Julia and her close and Julia's like,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: I'm going tomorrow, but now Martina has a medical condition
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: and she can't, can you come with me?
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: And she was like, all right, I'll go again. Like
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: I just did it. I'll go again. So they go.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: And according to Gertie, then they have a really fun
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: day one day. And then the.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: Next night, She's like, oh, they already like gave the
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: spot away to someone else or the spot was only
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: for Martina. And she's like, why can't I go to
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: this dinner with like Captain Santa and everybody else? And
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: Julia was just like, sorry, you're going to go to
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: this other dinner. And then she got there and then
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: there was a mix up and they didn't have her reservation.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: So then she started to feel like.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Why am I here?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: I already came here. Why did I leave my kids?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: I have a busy week.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: So she got resentful. So they were writing some text
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: message back. Neither one was too mean to each other.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: It was not out of control, but then till everything
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: was fine. That all happened before the latest reunion. Oh,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: that's the juicy part. So the reunion happens and she
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: never brings it up. Julia never brings it up.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: They're fine. The miscommunication, whatever happened. Then they start filming.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: And it's my belief that Julia had shared it with
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: producers and stuff.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: And they were like, bring that shit up. We got
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: to have conflict.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: So then she starts to bring it up saying that
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: like Julia, that, uh, Gertie took over and it was
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: all about her and she was, you know, annoying and
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: she was making all these connections and it was her invite. And,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: And of course, Gertie's like, I already went two days ago.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: Like, we were with, like, Jen Fessler's of the world.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Like, we were with.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: Everybody was like, this wasn't, like, a big thing. I don't...
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: This is what I think happened. I think Julia did
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: invite her, did beg.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: For her to come, and then.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: just got annoyed by her and wanted to have a
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: dinner by herself.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: You know what? That's true.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 6: And she was like, she didn't do her due diligence
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: and like getting, making sure she was at the table,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 6: making sure she was everywhere.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: Other people go have dinner with someone else. I kind
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: of want to just like, you took out, maybe Gertie
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: didn't realize that, but the last dinner she was taking over,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: I had a friend that like that, that would like,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: someone would ask me a question, and because she knew
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: me so well, she would, like, answer it for me.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's annoying.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't want to ever have
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: a dinner like that again. Now, I'm not saying that
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: we don't know, but I think then when the opportunity
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: came up where it was like, oh, well, the seat
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: was for you and Martina, she's probably like, that's fine.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: She probably didn't say, oh, put Gertie in that seat,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: because of course they would have said no problem.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: But I think, and so then, but then they asked
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: her to make a bigger deal out of it, and
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: then when And then Gertie was like, what the fuck
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: is going on? Then the splashing of the water was
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: so performative.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: That was just a lot.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 6: And I just didn't like how nobody defended her in
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: that moment. But then they were like coming down on
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: Gertie for the text.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, but I don't know. Julie was just being,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Julie just wants.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: To be a part of the cool girls club with
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 6: Marisol and Alexia.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: And that's what I don't really like.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: And I feel like this whole problem with Gertie, you're
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: mad because she shines harder than you.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: And, like, she had this.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: Really big cancer storyline, and she is more popular than
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: Julia in the grand scheme of things.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, to your point, like, I get, like, probably.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: She's... I mean, I really didn't—I think the fight really
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: just stemmed from, like, a miscommunication that then, if they
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: weren't on a reality show, would have never been brought up.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Again, yeah.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: It was just, like, some— there' s been times when I'm not
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: invited to things in my life. And at first I
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: would take it to heart, like, why? And then I
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: was like, probably because I might be too much. It
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean that that friend doesn't love me. It just
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: means that maybe that friend just didn't want me there.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: Like they just... didn't you know and you have a
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: right and.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: I think that's what it was but she should have
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: invited her she should have found a spot for her
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: she asked her to come and if she wasn't going
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: to be a delight the whole time she shouldn't have
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: asked her to come if.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: You wanted to have another friend that was going to
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: sit and be quiet in the background then you yeah
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: then invite that person and impress them.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: Don't invite invite a non-housewife yeah exactly like and i
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: feel like it like she should.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: Have had that figured out like from the moment martina
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 6: couldn't go she could have been like Hey, Gertie's coming.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Replace, replace, replace. Put her there. The fact that she
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: didn't even do any of that and just thought, oh,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: she's just going to come again.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 6: Or maybe she even thought on her mind, well, she
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 6: was just here. I can't imagine they wouldn't.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: Come to her. Yeah, and then Gertie's like, you make
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: it all about you. And Gertie's right.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: She's like, look, all these housewives have A-type personalities.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: Outgoing. They're not introverts.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: They probably are on the narcissistic spectrum, but not everyone
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: is a full narcissist. But like, yeah, you know, of
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: course I want to get the most airtime. Of course
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: I want to be getting everything you're getting. Like we're
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: on the same show. I'm going to be, even if
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: you get something, a cover of a magazine, I'm going
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: to be like, that's great.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: When am I getting a cover? When am I getting
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: a cover? When am I getting a cover? Like, you're not, like, you're...
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: Which is crazy because I thought these things.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: And you're telling yourself, you're like, it's not that I
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: don't want Gertie to get a cover, but I'd like
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: a cover, too.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: Like, that is what it is.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: As someone who knows these women, I've been following this
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: for years, so many of the fights are that.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: It's about the show.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: The success has come.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: and they feel that someone is either not including them
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: when they did include them, and we're not sharing the
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: spotlight together, and one person's like, well, I want to
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: be my bigger star.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: We all came on this show to be a star.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: We did not come to be.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: In a girl's band. It's Bethany and Jill all over again.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, Bethany and Jill.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 6: Because I'm re-watching from the beginning of New York, because
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: I kind of watched New York when it started, and
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 6: then obviously I've seen the reruns of the best seasons.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 6: Now I'm like watching the beginning and I'm seeing the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: Bethany and Jill breakdown. I'm like, this is all silly.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 6: I can't believe Bethany doesn't talk to Jill over this.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: Like, whatever.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: It's amazing. And then Alexia's back with Todd.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk about Real Housewives of OC, what do
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: we think that's going on here?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: Okay, so it's a good season so far. Like, it's
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: gutter-stipe as ever. Like, I love Orange County. There's something
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: so white and silly about it that, like, I just
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 6: can appreciate.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: Like, it reminds me of all the moms I grew
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: up with. Like, derogatory.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: But, like, I love these dolls. Like, they know how
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: to put on a good show. Some of them I
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 6: really can't stand. Like, Gina and Emily just give TJ Maxx. But, like,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 6: other than that.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Everyone else is good.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: I just feel like I was so pissed though in
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: the first episode, because I'm like, why are Gina and
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 6: Emily running shit? Why are they telling me that I
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: can't like Katie? I'm like, tell me why I should
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: like you. You guys are so annoying. I just, and
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: then like, I just, I can't with them. I just
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 6: find them so unfabulous. Like, they're just so unfab. And
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 6: so when they're telling me, like, what to do and
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: what to like and, like, why everybody else shouldn't be
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 6: liking it, I'm like, why am I rooting for the unfab? Like,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 6: everyone is just so camp on this cast. Like, Heather's
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 6: obviously camp for certain reasons. Jen is camp. Jen can't
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 6: pay her bills, but she's camp. Tamara's psychotic, but she's camp. Like,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 6: everyone has their thing, and they just have none of it.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, ah!
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: But we're entertained and we're talking about it.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: So I'm just like, even if people say I hate
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: the show and it's so bad, I'm like, as long
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: as it's not boring. But I do feel badly because
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: I'm like, this has become the Real Housewives of blackmailing.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, with the bloggers.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, and first of all, I want to
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: say like Tamara has been talking to people that do
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: what I do when I was the only one doing it.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: And I was the person she was talking to.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: She was always trying. She was doing this for for
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: 17 years. She's been putting out information, in my opinion,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: to get stuff out about people that she is at
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: odds with. She has fake pretended to be friends with
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: Gretchen when she knew that one year like she had
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: to make up with her and gave her the pink bracelet.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: She, you know, then she found Jesus. And then she goes, oh,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: no one has.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: Her finding Jesus storyline is my fave, by the way.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, and no one has a storyline, whatever. You
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: know what she said in her speech? She goes, at
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: her baptism, I quote this line day in and day out.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: She goes, what was once my mess is now my message.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 6: And I literally, I have the craziest crash out and
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 6: I'll be like, what was once my mess like 48
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: hours ago?
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: It's now my message.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: And also I was like, remember that baptism? I was
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: just like, could you have just gone to someone's house pool?
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: But that's camp.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: I know, but like, I don't want to see the
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: baptism with the like handicapped, like, you know, railing and how.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: The person can go in through like.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: The wheelchair access and then like, it says like four.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: Feet, you know, like, but would you rather see that
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: versus seeing Emily pick up a hard boiled egg and
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: put it in her purse and be like, Oh, I'm
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: so quirky.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: Look at me. I like to eat all the time. Like, okay.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: Like also, I, yes, I think I totally agree. Tamara.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: I never want to see Tamara or Shannon go.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: Or Heather to bro. Or Heather. Or Heather to bro.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: All three of them.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: They run that show. They run it so bad.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: They are fun to watch. They are intriguing. And then
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: we know them.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: So I'm never for like getting anyone off.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying like it is weird that, you know, like.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: Emily's espresso martini, which is like whatever I'd imitate her.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: I always said espresso martini, like I'll just have a
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: special market.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: Everything about her is food.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: And then she brings up the fact that her son
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: has this eating disorder, which is a real thing.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: I don't like that. She's doing that right now.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: That the, the cover of New York magazine is dread
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: at the dinner table, which is about this, this childhood
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: eating disorder. So I understand like, why she made the
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: decision to talk about it. But I understand why people
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: don't like as far as because he's 10.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 6: He's not asking him like, hey, can I talk about
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 6: your eating disorder?
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't really like all of that.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: I don't like it either. And like, it's just it
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: is just weird. Wait, let's just talk about their taglines.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: I think that they are like parodies of themselves. These
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: taglines are the worst. So I have them written out here.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: Heather Dubrow.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: I love my life in the hills and I always
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: take the high road.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: But it's like, shouldn't you be taking the road to
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: Orange County?
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: I think it was, I'm redoing this house in the hills.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: I'm going to feature my son who's got his real
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: estate license.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: And we're moving everything.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: We kind of, you know, our goal is to just, like,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: have our own show about, like, real estate and redoing
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: houses in L.A.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the goal is, but that's our thing.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: So, whatever.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: You know, we know they give them, like, five, and
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: they're like, fine, I'll pick this one.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: And Shannon Storms Bedore, for what? The only dogs in
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: my life are golden retrievers.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: I don't understand that. It makes no sense.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: Like, It means that dogs are bad guys and she
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: had Jim Jansen.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was like, that was the only bad guy. Well,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: I guess you've had several.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: Why are we even analyzing this? Like, as if this
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: is an English class. Emily Simpson. I may not be
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: your cup of tea, but I'll bring you an espresso martini.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 6: They're always food and beverage related. Remember the taco tagline
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: she had? It's low-key kind of fat phobic.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: It really is.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: Can you stop giving Emily these fat phobic taglines, please?
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: She thinks she's so iconic because she brought the turkey
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: sandwich into the sauna, which we know.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: Is like- And it's like, no. First of all, that's disgusting.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: And then second, I'm like, that wasn't even that cool.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: It wasn't even that funny. No.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: Gina- I may work in real estate, but that doesn't
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: mean I'm buying what you're selling.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: I actually think that's okay.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: I actually think that's okay because when the show is over,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: she's still going to have to be a realtor.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: So I think just keep with, at least get something
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: out of it.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 6: Do you think Gina and Heather get mad that they're
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 6: both essentially having the same real estate storyline? But I
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 6: guess Gina's real estate is more like Keller Williams-esque. Like,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: that's like what I think of it. Where like Heather
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: is like, no, I'm like doing shit with like the
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 6: Altman brothers, like different like brackets.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: Katie's is, I swear to tell the truth, the whole
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: truth and nothing but my truth.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: That's fine.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: I kind of think that's fine, being that she's being
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: called a liar all the time and there's a lie
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: detector test.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: And is she a liar? Is she psycho?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: Or is she just doing what everybody else did? But
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: now there's just more people reporting on it that she
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: can talk to than there were 10 years ago when
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: other people did it. Tamara Judge, I'm taking a hard
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: look in the mirror and my reflection is still hot.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: I don't, actually I don't hate it. I don't hate it.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 6: And actually I would argue it's the best one because
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 6: it's dividends off of like whatever she did years ago.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: The first time was I'm the hottest housewife.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 6: And then she did one for her tenure that was like,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 6: I forget what it was, but it's like 13 or
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 6: 10 years in the game and I'm still hot or
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 6: something like that.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: But yeah.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: And then Jennifer's is life can be hard, but so
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: are my abs.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: So cheesy, but also.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: But that's kind of her vibe.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: That is.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: That's what makes her what?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: Fab!
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: Her body, she did go through a major improvement, whether it's... No,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: she looks amazing.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, clearly, not clearly.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: In my opinion, I do think she had work done
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: on her body plastic surgery-wise. But she's obviously keeping it up.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: And I think it's funny that, like, she and Tamara are, like,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: in competition kind of with each other because Tamara's like,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: I did the workout that, you know, she did.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: The whole thing with the tanning.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: A lot of competing storylines here.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: With a workout, whatever. So now... this girl is a
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: bigger workout person.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: And, you know, probably if you're going to really pick
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: it apart, might even have like a more, whatever, appealing
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: figure if that's what you're looking for to be in
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: a bikini.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: Doesn't matter. They all have good bodies.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 6: But I've decided why they all hate each other. Everyone's
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 6: competing for different storylines. It's like, we've got.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: The Oppenheim brothers.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 6: And then.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we have the real estate thing with Heather and Cheetah.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: We have the real estate divas.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: We have the workout divas.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: The workout divas.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: And then I feel like these two are having like
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: a liar off all the time.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: About Shanna Badour? where she's like, you are the worst
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: person ever.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, no, there's a lot of.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: I feel like everyone on this cast is jealous of
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: what everybody has, when they all essentially have their own
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: different thing, but they don't realize it. They think they're
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 6: in competition. It's like, no, you guys... But I love
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 6: that they think that, because that's what makes the show great.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: I think it's always going to be... I don't care
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: when people get mad, like, they're not rich, or they're
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: not whatever.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: That's not the point, though.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: I don't care. As long as Even if it's dumb
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: and lame, it's something.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: Now, the question is, is Katie a complete psychopath liar?
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: Or is she just being faced? Is she too much
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: of a newbie to know that she can't lie? Because,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: you know, like when Shannon goes, okay, so for people
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: that are like, I'm not watching the show, I'm explaining
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: it to you. Katie filmed Shannon having a freakout when
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: they were doing their photo shoot, which is this, what
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: they call the gallery, like when they're all together. She
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: probably came in, you know, In a dramatic moment with
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: her head cut off.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: Who knows what would happen? We don't know if a
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: pipe burst.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: Well, she was pissed because Alexis was there.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 6: And I guess she was told that they weren't going
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 6: to be there at the same time. But also, Shannon,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 6: you know Alexis is on the show and you know
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: you're going to have to see her anyway.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: So wait a minute.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: So this whole thing.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: She was having a meltdown about Alexis being there.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: So wait, did they do this silver photo shoot and
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: you're just using it for two seasons?
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: I think they are.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: Oh my God, how lazy.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: That's how, I know, it's kind of cheap. Honestly, Broadway
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: needs to fix some things.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 6: The taglines are pissing me off because I'm like, okay,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 6: they used to be such an institutional part of the
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 6: franchise and I feel like we are not trying hard enough.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 6: When Ramona said, I'm an acquired taste, if you don't
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 6: like me, acquire some taste.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: Literally, that was my Instagram bio for at least 18 months.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: Wait, let me do it as Ramona. I'm going to
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: acquire taste. If I'm not your taste, then acquire some taste.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: Loved it.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: And then like when Candy was like, I may be small. Oh,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 6: like people died when she said that.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: Wait, when who said that? Candy.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I may be small.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: But she didn't, didn't she do it as a singing?
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was like singing and everyone's like, and people died.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: Like, but like now it's like, it's not even so
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 6: much the taglines. It's more of like the delivery of them.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: It's like.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: So I saw this girl go, I just asked chat
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: GPT to do my tagline. housewife tagline based on my
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: social media. And it came out pretty good. Like she
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: was into cooking or something. And it was like, I
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: may be sipping and tasting, but I'm done.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know what. So I'm like, I definitely think
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: producers and everybody use might've used it.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: And. Oh yeah.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: You know what's so funny?
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 6: Someone in my comments said that they're like, it does
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 6: give chat GBT this year. And I'm like, then I
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 6: don't like that. I, I feel like some of the
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 6: production's getting a little lazy.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: Everyone's getting lazy.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: Just like the person who came up with the American
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: Eagle ad.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: That was lazy, too. Lazy. That's what I kept thinking
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: to myself with that. Sorry to go back to that.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: But that's what it gave. It was like, lazy, we
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 6: need something for Q3.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: Like, this will work. Is Sidney Sweeney available? Like that's all.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: That's what it gave.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: I feel like everyone's doing this deep dive. Even myself.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: I'm doing a deep dive. Like what could have went wrong?
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: It's like laziness. That's it. No one wants to work anymore. No,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: nobody wants to work these days.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: So wait, so then, so what happened was she's having
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: a freak out and Katie filmed it, shared it with
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: Alexis just to be like, look, who's freaking out over here.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: Like I got you girl.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: And then, um, Alexis then told Tamara that she saw
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: the video of her freakout. Tamara then told Heather, who
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: then told her, and now she's like, that is illegal.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: It's not, I don't know if it's illegal or not.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: I think anyone can be filmed if you're in a
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: public place.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: She's so irate.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: So technically you weren't in a public place. It doesn't matter.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: But then when Heather, when Katie's faced with her at
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: this party, at Heather's party, and Shanna says to her,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: You know, why would you, you showed it to all
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: these people and she lies and she goes, well, only
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: my husband saw it, which we know.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: That's a lie.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: But I'm like, if this wasn't a reality show and you,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: your friend goes, I know now everybody knows that I
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: slept with Joe and I only told you and you
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: told a whole group of people and I'm facing you
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: and you're like, no, I only told Jenny. Like, you
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: might lie and go, I only told Jenny. Because there
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: aren't cameras and all this stuff. So I still think
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: she might be a liar like that. Like, she just
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: doesn't think.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: She doesn't tell the whole truth.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: She doesn't really think it through.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: But it's like, what she should have said was, Shannon,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: I'm really sorry I filmed you.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: But you know what? You're freaking out. And that's what,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: you know, and so when Alexis.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: And I were bonding, yeah, when Alexis and I were bonding,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: I go, well, look, like she was freaking out. Like,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't have done it because you thought I had your,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: we were friends. And I was doing it just to
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: try to bond with Alexis. But you're right, it was fucked.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: But I also will say, Shannon, If you weren't freaking out,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have had anything to film.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: Right, why are you acting like that in a public place?
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: That is jarring to people.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: And also, freaking out is your brand.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: It's made you a star for 15 years. They all
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: say the truth.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: It would be different if it was somebody that, if
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: it was, You know, Heather Dubrow freaking out or Lisa Vanderpump,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: someone that we've never really seen like lose their shit
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: on camera.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: Then that would be juicy.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: Then it would be like, oh, my God, like this
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: could actually hurt the image I put out. We know
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: Shannon's messy. We know she's dramatic. We know she makes
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: things about herself. We know she wants to be. seen
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: as a victim. She wants people to feel sorry for her.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: She confides in way too many people. Like, we know that.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: So what was this?
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 6: I wish she gaslit her like a little more, being like,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 6: I was just scared.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: You scared me.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, that would have been a good one, too.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: I would have been like, That would have been a
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: good one.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 6: I'm kind of friends with her. I'm like, I wish
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: she called me before she even did any.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: Of all of this. Well, she had 17 other people
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: to call.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, girl.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's got everybody on her DM list. And I
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: like her.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 6: She's so nice and she's so great. Like, she's always
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 6: been nice to me. But I'm like, Katie, I would
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 6: have told you easily never to give Tamara that information. Like,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 6: the red nose is on you for that. Like, I
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 6: can't even.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: Like, you should have never told. Of course she was
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: going to go and tell people that.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: So, like.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: You know what's also really weird is, you know, they go,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: kids are off limits. But the show is called Real Housewives.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: And it started because this was a... They chose women
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: who had a husband and kids.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: And there was a way to do it where, you know,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: we only saw, like, you know... Countess Luann's little boy, like,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: rap or, like, breakdance once.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: Like, we really never knew.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Being raised by the nanny.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we never knew what those kids were doing.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: We did know that Jill Zarin's daughter went to, like,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: a fat camp that she, like, now laughs about. And
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: I remember seeing that and kind of going, wow, you know. But, like,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: obviously she's fine. They're doing great today. But there's that
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: element of it. Don't bring the kids into it. But
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: you put the kids on camera. So unless you're in
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: a situation where, like, And the only time kids are
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: not a part of it is when a housewife's ex-husband
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: legally says they can't be on the show. Other than that,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: people want their kids on. They want to show their kids.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: That is a storyline. Or a storyline, it's about your life.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: So if your life is struggling with a kid who is,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: you know, having issues, then get off the show if
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: you don't want to share it. So I do see that, like,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: sometimes the housewife doesn't have a choice. The producers know
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: what's going on, they've asked, and then they encourage them
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: to do it. And this is now the livelihood or
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: whether they need the money or not because the in-laws
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: across the street pay for everything, like in Emily's case
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: or whatever, so allegedly.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: But if that's the case.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: I love your allegedly.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: Allegedly, allegedly. These are the streets.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: The streets are saying, Mama Joyce's streets.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the streets are talking.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, it's just, that's, The thing, it's like,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: but I also think the no behavior critical about it.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: Like if you're going to talk about how somebody lost
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: custody or decided that their ex-husband should raise the kid
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: or they didn't have a choice. I think that's like
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: gross and that we don't know the truth about Katie's story.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: We may never know the truth.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: But I also feel like, Emily, you started the whole
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 6: thing that bothers me about that whole thing, though, is like.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: Emily was mad about this.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 6: Nanny nonsense, which, by the way, her getting an attorney
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 6: for that, I just find abysmal. Like, I'm just like,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 6: why did you have to hire a nanny for, like,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: reaching out to Katie?
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: Also, you and your husband are attorneys. You can't do
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: one fucking thing yourself.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 6: Well, I get that, though, because I know attorneys don't
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 6: want to represent themselves. But I also feel like, at
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 6: the end of the day, like, all this woman did, like,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 6: all Katie, like, all the drama is that, like, you
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 6: were just mad that you got caught talking shit about
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 6: Heather Dubrow and your kid told... Katie's daughter like and
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 6: you just honestly got mad at her because you want
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 6: to save face in front of Heather Dubrow and that's
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 6: the root of everything it wasn't Heather Dubrow it was
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 6: Heather McDonald she's a fucking bitch give me an espresso
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 6: martini exactly so many women are called Heather is that
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 6: worth like going to the reunion and being like well
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 6: I heard like you and your kids you left them
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 6: and they have custody I'm like all because of you
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 6: upset Heather Dubrow talking shit like that.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: Just isn't equal right and like what kind of digging
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: are you doing so they're all doing the digging it's
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: all blackmailing each other they all.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 6: Have contacts with bloggers it's fine people do I just
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 6: feel like in this day and age it's a little
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 6: bit more it's deemed as a little bit more nasty
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 6: post Monica because everyone's kind of like a content creator
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 6: and everyone's like a journalist versus like back in the
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 6: day it's like she told page six and it seems
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 6: like more exclusive because it's.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: So hard I know that housewives that are you know
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: sworn to secrecy of what happens in the final episode
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: go and tell people that have accounts and podcasts and
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: stuff They have their phone number and they tell them.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: And they tell them in the hopes that it gets
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: out to fuck whoever behaved badly.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: On the final season. So they're doing it.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: These women are doing it. So it's like, and it's
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: fine because. I'm talking about it on my show, so
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: keep it coming. I don't really care, but just don't
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: try to act like you've got the moral high horse.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: It's now a game, and everyone's playing it, and it
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: is what it is. It's never going to be what
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: it was 10 years ago before social media.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: It just isn't.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 6: And the stakes in this franchise are so not even high.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now that there's no one stealing someone's man, who cares?
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: Okay, let's talk about.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, look at this photo of how Tamara
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: posted this.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: This is cute.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: The original cast of.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think of the Gretchen and Joe
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: of it all?
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 6: I like the move because I feel like Tamara was
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 6: smart enough to know that Gretchen isn't mature enough to
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 6: handle seeing her boyfriend's ex of like a decade ago.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 6: More than a decade ago. More than a decade ago. Like,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 6: what was Joe really going to do? Go confront them?
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: Like, no. Like, Gretchen... step your pussy up.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 6: Like, I just feel like you should not have, that
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 6: was your time to be like, okay, hi, Joe, how
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 6: are you? Like, kind of gagged Tamara about like, of course,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 6: she's like, my thing with Gretchen is that like, Tamara's
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 6: right in the sense that she brings up stuff from
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 6: like the Stone Age.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: And it's like, how are you really mad about all
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: of this still? Like, I feel like.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: I think she's mad at it because she feels that,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: you know, when you get asked to not come back,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: whether you think it's better for you or not, you
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: always are going to be like blaming the person, the
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: people that you had issues with. And she had issues
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: with Tamara at the end. And then when, you know,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: and then Tamara got a hold of, of Slade's ex-wife
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: and made that a whole thing.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Did she do that though?
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 6: Cause I just heard that she like put out the
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 6: GoFundMe on the podcast. Cause it was like in people
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 6: magazine or something. And then she just had to talk
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 6: about it on the podcast.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: I will say like, so this is kind of an
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: interesting story for the, again, for people, not everybody's up
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: on it.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: So let me just explain.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: So Slade had two sons when he was dating Joe,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: when we first saw it. One is older and, you know,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: was almost 18 when she was around. The other one,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: which was another woman, had severe medical issues and has
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: since passed. And when that boy passed, throughout the show,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: Tamara was always trying to say that Slade didn't pay
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: his child support, so there was money that was owed
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: and this and that. Then the boy passed, and... she
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: put it out on, on her podcast and everything that
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: I've talked to the mother of this child and she
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: needs money for GoFundMe for the funeral, whatever. And so
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: Gretchen really felt like that was awful. And Gretchen put
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: out her own thing where she talked about this boy
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: and that her daughter was with, like, they've all met,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: they've all done things together.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: None of us.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: Really know the situation, but, We're talking about a child
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: that passed like it just was.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 6: But isn't it like but at least she's putting out
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 6: the GoFundMe kind of like, you know, wanting people to donate.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: That's how I see it, because I feel.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: Like I think, you know what, if that was if
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: you really didn't want to hurt Gretchen and you really
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: didn't want to hurt a father who did lose his son,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: which is Slade, then.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: Go give it to one of those bloggers.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: That's also true.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: You could absolutely be a Lisa, Lisa Vanderpump who would
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: give stuff to other people to run with.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 6: But technically with Tamara and her podcast, I don't want
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 6: to say she's a blogger, but like if that like
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 6: shows up on her housewives desk, then.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Like, you know.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: Of course you can do that too. And I'm like
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: getting it, get into it too. But I sometimes I've been,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: you know, like, well, we'll get in. Let me tell
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: you what like happened with, um, let's just jump over to, Wait,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: by the way, this is so funny.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, is that you?
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 4: Probably after this.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: Are you the skunk in the barnyard?
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so just watch.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: Now that I'm talking about this, this will be removed
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: by Thursday afternoon, okay?
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: But this has been up there for weeks. People have
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: sent this to me.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: When you go to Peacock and you want to watch
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: old episodes of Orange County, there's photos of, you know,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: from the episode. So there's Shannon Bedore crying for her
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: vow renewal or whatever. And then there's this episode, season nine,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: episode 10. So go to season nine, episode 10 on
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: your Peacock. If I am no longer the cover art,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: it's because, thank you, Bravo, you listened to the show.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: They used me from when I went to Heather Dubrow's thing,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: and they call it skunk in the barnyard. Now, according
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  Speaker 3: to my friend who sent it to me, they watched
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  Speaker 3: the episode. I'm not even in it. I thought, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this must be From when Shannon, when Heather had her
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  Speaker 3: breaking of the ground party and we all went to
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  Speaker 3: the rodeo and I brought my son and everything.
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  Speaker 4: According to.
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  Speaker 3: This, no, they just wanted to write a meme thing
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  Speaker 3: on my face. And I don't hate the photo.
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  Speaker 1: I don't hate it, too. You actually look like you're
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  Speaker 1: living there, and I find it so funny.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm flattered by it, so I don't want
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  Speaker 4: them to take it down.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you look good.
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  Speaker 4: Don't take it down. It's funny. Who cares? Thank you
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  Speaker 4: so much. This was so fun. We could go on
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  Speaker 4: for another two hours, so you'll have to come back.
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  Speaker 3: Tell everybody how they can follow you because you give
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  Speaker 3: out such good, funny takes on things.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 7: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
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  Speaker 7: know about the drawer.
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  Speaker 1: The drawer. Just the one square before bed.
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  Speaker 4: Or two, you know. Nobody's watching. You deserve a treat.
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