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Fringey Mini: Skinwalker sale · Journey to the Fringe

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  let's go head over to the doc we got feel good
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  we got feel bad now with the same amount of bad
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  news we got pretty sure this is bad feeling uncertain
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  feeling like science which one feels the most
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  built up at this time i don't know what's this
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  one to be filed okay Let's do a 2B files. Yeah,
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  let's do that. That's a real wild card. Yeah,
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  it is. Let's just go for it. This one is postapocalypticmedia
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  .com. So this one is written by Stephanie. The
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  dark disturbing reason why Bigelow sold Skinwalker
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  Ranch. September 2nd, 2023. I think it's still
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  relevant. It's only two years, two and a half
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  years old. Yeah. I think we're good. We've done
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  further back. Yeah, exactly. Skinwalker Ranch
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  is not only the source of mysterious phenomenon
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  UFOs, but it's also been at the center of a heavily
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  funded federal government investigation that's
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  still classified to this day. I've never heard
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  that before. Maybe I didn't read the second book,
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  so I wouldn't know that. Brandon Fugel purchased
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  the ranch in April 2016 and revealed in a recent
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  interview that Robert Bigelow had a dark, disturbing
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  reason for selling the ranch and stepping away
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  from skinwalker research. Bigelow himself confirmed
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  the rumors in a recent interview last month.
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  Wait, was the rumor that it was for a dark reason
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  and he just said yes? Probably. Let's see what
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  Stephanie has to say. Fugel shared stories about
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  the ranch during an August 2023 Malty Hour interview
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  with The Sean Ryan Show on YouTube during the
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  interview. Why does The Sean Ryan Show keep coming
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  up? I have never heard of it. Where'd it come
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  up before? Previously. It's somebody I'm building
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  a script for keeps coming up on that show. That's
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  a weird coincidence. Yeah. I always love it when
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  things start showing up that you never heard
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  of before. Like that guy with the unfiltered
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  podcast, what was it, Gleisinger or something
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  like that? Lindmeyer or something? I don't know.
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  Well, maybe you'll find out once you do your
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  research. Find out about Sean Ryan. It'll be
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  a weird part of the episode, I'm sure. During
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  the interview, he revealed how he acquired the
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  ranch and why Robert Bigelow, the former owner,
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  had decided to sell it. Around 1 .21 in the interview,
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  Beagle shared that before acquiring Skinwalker
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  Ranch, he had worked with a young tech mogul
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  in 2009 to 2010 who had UFO encounters and thought
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  he had discovered technology that could enable
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  anti -gravity. Fugal devoted resources to ultimately
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  debunking the claim. Through the experience,
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  I developed relationships with a team of science
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  advisors that unbeknownst to me were simultaneously
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  advising an elusive billionaire out of Las Vegas
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  named Robert Bigelow, he shared. After he ended
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  the anti -gravity project in 2013, two of Fugal's
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  science advisors approached and asked if he would
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  like to meet with Bigelow about Skinwalker Ranch.
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  Fiegel said he made sure the science advisors
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  knew that he was a skeptic who just concluded
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  a project where they had debunked core claims
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  using scientific rigor. They were okay with that.
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  So we flew to Las Vegas to meet with Bigelow.
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  Bigelow's facility is the closest thing to a
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  James Bond villain lair I've ever seen. I like
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  that they say villain. Well, I think you have
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  to. Like James Bond's lair's not like that. That's
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  true. Yeah, but like you could - Does he even
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  have a lair? Not in the James Bond universe,
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  but you could say something else, not like a
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  villain's lair. Like a Batcave, per se? Implying
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  that he's - yeah, exactly. Implying that he's
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  like, not a good billionaire. Well, Chelsea,
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  those two words don't go together. Yeah. Like,
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  I think that's the position of the podcast. Yeah,
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  I do understand that, but Batman. Batman doesn't
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  exist and - Yes he does. There's a very good
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  argument out there that he's the whole reason
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  that supervillains exist in that society. I'm
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  curious as to why, but we only have so many times.
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  He creates socioeconomic problems through the
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  hoarding of his wealth that create the larceny
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  and general villainy in the society of Gotham.
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  Wow. I never thought about this about Batman
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  before. And instead of, you know, funding social
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  programs, he beats them up at night wearing a
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  mask. Huh. I'm seeing Batman in a whole new light.
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  Not that I ever really watch Batman. I do know
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  of him, though. Fugal said that he no villain
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  layer. He joked he joked. It's an incredible
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  facility I mean huge buildings that house full
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  -size space stations and space habitats They're
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  doing the material science and the life safety
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  testing and engineering the transaction for the
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  ranch was completely private What the hell those
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  two didn't seem to like lead to one another he
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  was not why wouldn't it be private what like
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  The only other option from that is the government
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  buy. I didn't see them buying. Yeah, this is
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  a weird. Is this an interview? Yeah, it's an
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  interview. He was not putting the property up
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  on the market for sale, Fugal clarified. This
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  was a very private transaction, private dialogue.
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  And I told him I would acquire the property as
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  long as my identity would be kept confidential.
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  But here we are doing this interview. I think
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  what they're basically saying is there was no
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  open house. Yeah, like it wasn't up for sale.
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  No, the realtor wasn't sitting on it coming up
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  with a game plan for like a month. Nobody's really
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  kicking the tires. Robbie, can we have like,
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  just do an open house every other weekend for
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  a while? Yeah, we really have to work this one.
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  I worked with legal counsel to structure the
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  entities that would shield my identity. I mean,
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  it's just getting weirder. They closed on the
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  property April 2016. Okay, so seven years before
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  this interview. Okay, so you had secrecy for
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  a while at least. For a while at least. And now
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  it's full disclosure. Fugel said he was surprised
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  at the shape the ranch was in when he bought
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  it. The septic system wasn't working, there were
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  no fiber optic connectivity, and reports were
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  simply transmitted by fax. For the first few
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  months he worked with Thomas Winterton and Jim
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  Morris to just build out the infrastructure.
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  Fugel said that when he acquired the ranch he
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  thought he would be finding prosaic explanations
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  for all the mysterious phenomena. He was quickly
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  proven wrong and later decided to no longer hide
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  his identity as the ranch owner. Bigelow was
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  interested in selling Skinwalker Ranch because
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  he was moving on to other interests, including
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  working with SpaceX Fugal shared. But he later
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  learned that there is more to the billionaire's
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  desire to leave the property behind. At around
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  2 .17 into the video, Fugal elaborated on what
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  he learned. Mr. Bigelow was actively engaged
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  with growing his aerospace company and and He
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  says and twice and and jumping into the private
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  space race Fugal said and the ranch he did we
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  don't know for sure Yeah to a degree it had faded
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  at the time I was led to believe that it was
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  simply because mr Bigelow was just buried very
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  busy with getting his p modules and his space
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  habitats up in orbit and ultimately on the moon
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  of Mars which I believe is true, but there was
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  more but also I've learned he ascribed negative
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  events afflicting his family to really his ownership
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  of the ranch, Pugel said. Mr. Bigelow blamed
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  the ranch for dark disturbing events that happened
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  in their lives, and it's not my story to tell.
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  It's been told by others in the media and advisors,
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  but owning the ranch was not a positive experience
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  for him. When Fugal asked to get access to some
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  of the data Bigelow had acquired while studying
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  the property with the government, Bigelow said
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  no. I just find it very odd that the paranormal
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  or whatever you want to call high strangeness
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  respects property rights that we created. Yeah.
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  Because he's not saying that this happened while
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  he was at the ranch. He's saying like his family
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  was just generally afflicted with a curse of
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  some kind due to owning it. Yep. You didn't know
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  that? In fee simple ownership. Didn't you study
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  that in law school? Yeah, how curses pass with
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  land. Yep. It's supposed to naturally flow with
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  the land. It's considered an attachment. Yeah.
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  He said, while I'm selling the property on an
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  as -is basis, I'm not willing to turn over any
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  data, and apparently all the curses that go with
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  it, Fugal recalled. Not that I just added that
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  in, I can't tell you that quote. That was me.
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  Not only because the ranch was part of a Pentagon
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  -funded black budget program. But what if the
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  curse was attached to the research? I feel like
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  Bigelow didn't think this through. That's true.
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  That's a really good point. But Bigelow might
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  be a little bit of an idiot. So not only because
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  the ranch was part of a Pentagon funded black
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  budget program between 2007 and 2013, but he
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  went on to say that he felt that he wanted to
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  keep that private. And I agreed. I didn't push.
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  I asked respectfully and I respected his response.
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  That's fucking far enough on this. And I do believe
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  the second Skinwalker book is called Skinwalker
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  Ranch at the Pentagon or something. So I'm led
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  to believe that it's mostly about that Pentagon
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  funded black budget program However, I did not
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  read it. So it's all hearsay. I haven't read
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  it either. Is it even the same authors? I have
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  no idea. I could not even guess at that. It might
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  be - And I know there's a Skinwalker Ranch TV
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  show, and it's a far swing from the actual, like,
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  first book. It's almost like it's created its
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  own franchise in the Heist Ranchers lore. Oh
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  yeah, those paranormal shows are absolutely shit.
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  Skinwalker Ranch, however, great book. Love that
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  book. Never got into the TV show and never read
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  the second book. So here we are at the end of
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  the mini. I kind of feel like even if he - telling
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  the story on the what Sean Ryan show it doesn't
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  sound very real no it kind of sounds like I don't
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  know Bigelow being a weird eccentric billionaire
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  made some sort of weird illusion or comment that
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  he like drew weird meaning from probably but
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  hey you guys got 48 hours I'm not gonna go listen
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  to it you guys go do it tell me what tell us
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  go do it thanks and we do enough work bye yeah
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  bye