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Ben's Baby Shower Swaddled Up · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: All right, guys, Almost Famous and the og all creations
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  Speaker 2: of the Sugarman brain Trust Here tonight. This is the
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  Speaker 2: post mortem. Guys. We're coming off of a great night
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  Speaker 2: multiple interviews, Ben Higgins, Bob Guiney talking to everyone in
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  Speaker 2: the room. We talked about parenthood, we talked about having children,
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  Speaker 2: We talked about the baby shower, we talked about the baby.
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  Speaker 2: What's about your gorgeous wife? We talked about colts, we
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  Speaker 2: talked about sandwiches. We had so many conversations. I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know what the hell was going on. My head
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  Speaker 2: is spinning right now.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what, Bob, some things that stood out
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  Speaker 3: to me tonight Jonan Chalk outside of the baby stuff,
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  Speaker 3: as solid as of a couple as I've ever seen
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  Speaker 3: from The Bachelor.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, me too.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they can joke with each other, they can
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  Speaker 3: kind of like jab each other a little bit, and
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  Speaker 3: they love each other. That's a standout, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know what I loved. Also, first of all, they do
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  Speaker 2: speak for each other a little bit, like in a
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  Speaker 2: kind way, but they give each other that space to
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  Speaker 2: speak for themselves, which I think is a very respectful thing.
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  Speaker 2: And older couples do that, and couples who've been together
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  Speaker 2: for a long time with that, but couples in the beginning,
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  Speaker 2: it's like one of them is almost always trying to
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  Speaker 2: dominate the conversation. It would stand a reason that Joan
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  Speaker 2: would almost talk for Chok, right, she doesn't, she doesn't,
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  Speaker 2: she lets him go, and Chalk doesn't need to be
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  Speaker 2: let go. He's a he's a man dud. He has
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  Speaker 2: his own moment. I love them. I love that dude.
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  Speaker 3: Chalk made a comment at the very end of the
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  Speaker 3: podcast that said, it feels like been married for five years.
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  Speaker 3: I remember saying that, and I would say that makes sense,
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  Speaker 3: like it does. Another stand out to me was Jonathan
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  Speaker 3: going on Paradise, his excitement towards that, his you know,
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  Speaker 3: the one thing we didn't dive into with him, but
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  Speaker 3: I think is something to know is his intentionality about
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  Speaker 3: preparing well for that show, meaning he wasn't going to
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  Speaker 3: reach out to bachelor people, he wasn't going to date around,
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  Speaker 3: he was going to keep his slate clean. Really, if
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  Speaker 3: I would have, uh, what do you think about that? Like?
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  Speaker 2: So I have two thoughts on that, Like one of
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  Speaker 2: the thoughts is I I question someone who has such
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  Speaker 2: a plan now that I question jigginy Jay because I
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  Speaker 2: actually did enjoy him, But it is interesting to me
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  Speaker 2: that someone has such a plan, like I didn't have
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  Speaker 2: a plan.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder if a little no, I'm with you, I
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  Speaker 3: think a plan is a is an odd way to
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  Speaker 3: lay it out. I wonder though, for him getting to
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  Speaker 3: spend some time with him, if he has a plan
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  Speaker 3: because of past seasons and how many people have had
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  Speaker 3: a lack of a plan right and just kind of
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  Speaker 3: dated around and gone to these shows. He's watching the
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  Speaker 3: carnage and yeah, and he's like, I need to set
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  Speaker 3: my boundaries up. I need to make sure I think
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  Speaker 3: this through so that I don't show up to the
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  Speaker 3: beach and get absolutely destroyed.
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  Speaker 2: I do. I do say this. I like him. I
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  Speaker 2: think he's a very nice personality. I think he seemed
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  Speaker 2: like a really cool guy, and I did like these
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  Speaker 2: They're supporting Jen that whole time through out the season.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that, you know, everyone's like speculating up their
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  Speaker 2: dating and he knows they're not, but he's still there
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  Speaker 2: every week. You know, part of me.
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  Speaker 3: Is supporting her as a friend and we see this
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  Speaker 3: now with her and Sasha, where like they Jonathan and
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  Speaker 3: Jen definitely didn't have anything, and we guess we don't
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  Speaker 3: really know Sasha and Jen do because it's kind of
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  Speaker 3: the same thing that's happening with Jonathan. But the Sasha
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  Speaker 3: thing seems a little more legit because she's like staying
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  Speaker 3: at his house, which feels like, how did's too attractive people?
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  Speaker 2: To me?
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  Speaker 3: I go, how did too attractive single people sleep in
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  Speaker 3: the same bad.
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  Speaker 2: No, we're just gonna say she's gonna stay here at
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  Speaker 2: my couge. She's a closer in the dirty laundry. Come on, bro, respect. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's not a thing. I watched gen dance on that show.
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  Speaker 3: Come Courtney and Umberta were together. Uh, just I love
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  Speaker 3: that you love them and you love Umberto and you
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  Speaker 3: love coordinating I do. And you've been a fan of
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  Speaker 3: hers forever and you could I could tell just through
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  Speaker 3: that interview how like excited you were that they are together.
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  Speaker 3: I like them, but like, again, go back to my
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  Speaker 3: first point, Mberto Preciado shows up.
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  Speaker 2: Like you both the greatest name I've ever heard in
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  Speaker 2: my Like, there's no chance they don't get married, and
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  Speaker 2: I get named Bob Guinea yea, and I want to
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  Speaker 2: fight my parents. Why am I not Robert? No, it's
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  Speaker 2: Bob Ginny And you really like saur Kraut. It's like
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  Speaker 2: all these weird tonalities in the Midwest. Just abfuse me.
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  Speaker 2: Beautiful couple.
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  Speaker 3: We had Susie who's just crushing it in her podcast,
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  Speaker 3: hosting an incredible show about so many unique, creative and
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  Speaker 3: difficult topics, and she's doing it in a humorous, yet
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  Speaker 3: de She's adorable. She is, she really is adoring. Do
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  Speaker 3: you think her and Justin are back together?
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 3: I do too.
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  Speaker 2: I got a feeling I think that. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: it bothered me at our last time with Justin. It
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  Speaker 2: bothered me that I felt like there was some it wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't seem settled to me. There's something going on.
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  Speaker 2: I love that right now, even though you know we
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  Speaker 2: weren't able to pry it out of her in our
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  Speaker 2: gripping interviews and you and I just hitting with the
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  Speaker 2: hard stuff we weren't able to get out of her. That,
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  Speaker 2: I do think they are together, and maybe that's something
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  Speaker 2: for Bachelor Nation look forward to.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're back together. We have the Golden ladies.
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  Speaker 2: Can we call them the Golden Girls, Yeah, of course
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  Speaker 2: we can. I feel like the three of them are
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  Speaker 2: like the three amigos who are just fucking awesome. And
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  Speaker 2: I could listen to them read a phone book and
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  Speaker 2: I would be laughing my ass off.
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  Speaker 3: Can you imagine if we just stuck the three of
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  Speaker 3: them in the house and said, there's no rules to this,
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  Speaker 3: just live life, no, see what happens, because it would
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  Speaker 3: be no bills would get paid, but it's asolutely crazy.
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  Speaker 3: And if you have boys over, the show will pay
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  Speaker 3: for everything. So like that's encouraged, love it and just
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  Speaker 3: see what happens, and we just follow along.
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  Speaker 2: King the pool boy would be there and none of
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  Speaker 2: them have a pool.
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  Speaker 4: Can I tell you something, Yes, I would bet money
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  Speaker 4: that by early twenty twenty five a lot of those
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  Speaker 4: Golden ladies are dating a lot of the Golden dudes.
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  Speaker 4: I hope, Oh I guarantee you I see them. They're
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  Speaker 4: all So Chalk's facetiming his buddies from the show and
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  Speaker 4: getting the ladies on. They're all it's going to be
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  Speaker 4: like the young ones inter dating, you know, as they
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  Speaker 4: do with the Goldens. Nancy thousands dude and I think
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  Speaker 4: I know who it's going to be. Do you want
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  Speaker 4: me to tell you now? I think it's going to
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  Speaker 4: be Guy.
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  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I like, Guy, You're.
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  Speaker 4: Gonna meet Guy when Ben's having a baby. Guy's going
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  Speaker 4: to be with us. Oh my, So I think I
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  Speaker 4: think there might be some sparks between maybe Nancy and Guy.
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  Speaker 2: And Nancy back on that one. I think so should
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  Speaker 2: be reserved.
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  Speaker 4: That one's going to be. Okay, tune in for like
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  Speaker 4: February for like Golden hookups, because what we're trying to
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  Speaker 4: do Ben, when you have the baby is we're going
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  Speaker 4: to take.
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  Speaker 3: That seems like something I would not be down. I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to come back.
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  Speaker 4: We're just gonna get a baby all the goldens. It's
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  Speaker 4: going to be fifty and over only, and it's going
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  Speaker 4: to be all the goldens and Susie and your face.
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  Speaker 4: Why are you so let the old Let the old folks.
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  Speaker 2: I want them to have a lift so bad.
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  Speaker 3: I just have this image in my mind right now
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  Speaker 3: that I can get out. That's mostly what I'm thinking. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm just thinking about how having a baby and
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  Speaker 3: then like coming back in March and starting to record
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  Speaker 3: again and all of a sudden. Now She's like, we're not.
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  Speaker 4: Letting you have like two weeks off, like two months off,
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  Speaker 4: said Ben's getting time off.
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  Speaker 3: I thought I get like five days vacation.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: No, you don't know about that. We set up all
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  Speaker 4: the cameras and the microphones and the delivery.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we already cleared it. I'm gonna be right there,
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  Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, this is actually happening in real time.
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  Speaker 3: I just can't imagine like the stories that have come out,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna listen to a podcast and be like, yeah, well,
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  Speaker 3: it's not like Kathy and this guy they like snuck off.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be like stage Coach to the bedroom and
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  Speaker 3: we walked in there making out.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be like stage Coach with I.
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  Speaker 4: Was gonna say, who was the one that got in
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  Speaker 4: trouble at stage Coach Blake? What was the nickname?
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  Speaker 3: Uh? I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: What was the name they gave stage Coach when Blake
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  Speaker 4: had like too many hookups. What if we make a
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  Speaker 4: Golden just like a Golden.
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  Speaker 2: He is an island.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't actually like feel like this is something
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  Speaker 3: i'd morally be against, because if we brought all them
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  Speaker 3: together for an I heeard event, and like the idea
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  Speaker 3: was like let's speed date and then like let's say
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  Speaker 3: we get four really successful makeouts from it. I'd actually
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  Speaker 3: be like, that's kind of cool. I know what if
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  Speaker 3: please really good at like they know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 3: They're all like into.
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  Speaker 2: No one's even remotely young enough to make a mistake.
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  Speaker 2: We just holds bar. Yeah, nobody. It's like a candy
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  Speaker 2: bowl of Viagara and condoms.
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  Speaker 4: Like when Daddy's away.
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  Speaker 3: Goodness, this sounds.
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  Speaker 2: You put Firestone and I in a room. Bro, it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be bringing spin the bottle Truth or Dare.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna bring out all the teenage games and have
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  Speaker 4: just hook up Island for the Golden I can't wait.
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  Speaker 3: That's such good content.
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  Speaker 4: It's really good.
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  Speaker 2: It's good.
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  Speaker 3: I just can't be a part of it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll call you, We'll call you, we'll send you a video.
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  Speaker 3: Who else was here tonight? Nobody? I think that was
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  Speaker 3: all the interviews we did.
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  Speaker 2: Well. I wanted to say, like, let's talk about this.
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  Speaker 2: So you did mention Courtney Bug Robertson and Umberto and yes,
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  Speaker 2: I I actually really so I did an interview with
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  Speaker 2: Courtney earlier this year, and I always saw she was
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  Speaker 2: a villain too, and I thought it was really interesting
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  Speaker 2: to hear Alberto's experience with her being the villain. It
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  Speaker 2: hurt his feelings in the jump, and it was like
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  Speaker 2: it was hard for him to get over it at first.
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  Speaker 2: And I guess I never really thought about it because
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  Speaker 2: I was edited very nicely when I was on the show.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that it could be hard to be
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  Speaker 2: with someone who was coming off of that experience and
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  Speaker 2: they have their first berth of their child and he's
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  Speaker 2: like It kind of bothered me that all the headlines
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  Speaker 2: were about her being the villain and showing pictures of
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  Speaker 2: her and then she's not. I mean, I think she's not,
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  Speaker 2: and I think she was on that season, but she.
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  Speaker 4: Was just so sassy that was just like not not
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  Speaker 4: there to be like everyone's best friend.
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  Speaker 2: She said, like her whole thing was I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to make friends. She flashed, she did some things in
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  Speaker 2: the water, but it was like nothing that she did
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  Speaker 2: was villainous. No, but they made it, like like Sugarman said,
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  Speaker 2: they made it and she and she won, so clearly,
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  Speaker 2: you know she was the villain.
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  Speaker 3: You sit down with Courtney and you realize that she
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  Speaker 3: is one of the most caring, put together, loving moms
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  Speaker 3: and people. Yeah, and she loves Umberto man, Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: she loves and he loves.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that dude is a stud. I'm sorry, say
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  Speaker 2: there meet him. I'm like, holy shit, I love for you.
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  Speaker 3: And I just sit in a room with like guys
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  Speaker 3: like Chalk and Jonathan and Umberto in one night and
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  Speaker 3: we're just like love these guys. Yeah, and like I could,
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  Speaker 3: I could see it, like those guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I date this guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to hang out the more like Chalk,
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  Speaker 3: you want to talk a little bit after this.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, Chock, I was trying so hard to
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  Speaker 2: talk to Chalk before he left the night, and he's like,
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  Speaker 2: it was great me and you guys were out of here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, Chuck, I love you.
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  Speaker 4: I had a time with Chalk and I love Chalk.
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  Speaker 4: I love Joan.
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  Speaker 2: I do too. Oh my god, I think that you
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  Speaker 2: know what. I love you guys. Here's I'm gonna say something.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is kind of this is kind of fun.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of a far fetch thing to say. But
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  Speaker 2: first of all, lies just one thirty four to thirty one.
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  Speaker 2: You're welcome, America.
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  Speaker 4: For some of We Aren't Live Bob.
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  Speaker 2: Uh Trista Sutter goes on Trista Wren. Trista Sutter Nay
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  Speaker 2: Wren goes on this show twenty some years ago, Bombshell
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  Speaker 2: Blonde chooses kind of a quiet, unassuming guy and they
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  Speaker 2: have this lifelong relationship. Right Joan comes along, It's almost
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  Speaker 2: like the reincarnation of this whole thing I have.
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  Speaker 4: I had a weird So first of all, I will
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  Speaker 4: give a secret that I did see Susie and Justin
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  Speaker 4: together at Disneyland sidebar. I had to tell you that
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  Speaker 4: makes me have I had a weird moment with Joan
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  Speaker 4: where I flashed back to your season, not your Bachelor season,
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  Speaker 4: but your Bachelorette season, because one of the things was
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  Speaker 4: Joan wasn't you know when she went on She was
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  Speaker 4: telling me when she went on Golden Bachelor, you know,
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  Speaker 4: she hemmed in hat a little bit like should I
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  Speaker 4: do this? Am I ready? And she had this like
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  Speaker 4: knowledge that I need to go on because this is
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  Speaker 4: the first one and you can never recreate the first one.
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  Speaker 4: And I immediately thought of Trista's season like that will
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  Speaker 4: never be recreated because it was so iconic and for
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  Speaker 4: young people. You gotta go back and watch it because
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  Speaker 4: it was the first time ever we chalk said the.
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  Speaker 2: Night, which we we covered in our interview, which I
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  Speaker 2: thought was great. It was the one thing that resonated
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  Speaker 2: for me from this season. The guys all got along.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I Bob see. Ben's too young. He Bob
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  Speaker 4: and I were around at this time that.
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  Speaker 2: All were around. We were making news, but.
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  Speaker 4: We were all together because we're all old sugarman. They
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  Speaker 4: were all They all became best friends. And the reason
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  Speaker 4: the viewers, like myself loved watching it was because we
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  Speaker 4: enjoyed watching you all exactly the same reason I loved
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: Jones season. Like, if you did not watch Jones season,
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  Speaker 4: go watch it. It was I cried every episode. It
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  Speaker 4: was so good. I don't know why I'm talking so much.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's just because I haven't had any time
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  Speaker 4: with you it.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 4: But here's what I want to know from Ben, what
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  Speaker 4: are you two? So? So, just so everyone knows gets
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  Speaker 4: a little visual, all of us are. Danielle's here, Kendall's
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  Speaker 4: guitars here, the whole team, Joel's here, taking photos. We're
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  Speaker 4: all still working, but soon, in about half an hour,
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  Speaker 4: we're all leaving, and Bob and Ben are.
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  Speaker 2: Going to be in the home camera.
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  Speaker 4: You're just going to be here, the two of us,
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  Speaker 4: and we created we got.
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  Speaker 2: He always the camera, jillays.
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  Speaker 4: I want to know what you two are going to
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  Speaker 4: do when we all leave, Like I was, I just
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  Speaker 4: told the boys, like go in the hot time. But
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  Speaker 4: do you think you're going to like stay up late
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  Speaker 4: and like so, do you think you too will bond
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  Speaker 4: like fatherly bond?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we've always bonded.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've always bonded. I love Bob so much. And
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  Speaker 3: uh but Bob and I both have early fights tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: We're in a five thirties like, uh, well, Bob, only
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  Speaker 2: eight thirty right now?
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  Speaker 3: Like no, no, a time out, Amy, Uh well, you don't
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  Speaker 3: know about me. Maybe is like when you say it's
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  Speaker 3: only eight thirty, like ninety nine percent of my life
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  Speaker 3: means I'm already in bed, so like I'm already pushing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we we gotta adjust that, by the way, with
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  Speaker 2: you having children. By the way, yeah, well right now.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think he'll go to bed earlier?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, I'm I'm the late night guy,
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  Speaker 2: Like that's my kind of my thing. I'm in bed
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  Speaker 2: by eight thirty eight. Yeah, kids, so you're gonna be a.
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  Speaker 4: Danielle over there. You know our boss Danielle. She goes
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  Speaker 4: to bed at what eight fifteen?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there there isn't There isn't a night that
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  Speaker 3: Jessica and I have been home together in the last
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  Speaker 3: year that I've seen ten forty five. You know, if
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  Speaker 3: I saw ten forty five, it means I'm not like
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  Speaker 3: falling asleep and I've like need to get up and
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  Speaker 3: walk around the house for a little bit before I
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  Speaker 3: go back to bed, like I bet last night. I
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  Speaker 3: know for a fact, I set our sleep timer at
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  Speaker 3: nine o'clock for thirty minutes, and neither of us saw
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: it go off at night. Can I tell you?
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Can I tell you a secret about five sleep time
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: on your TV?
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: You can set the timer for when the TV turns
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: itself off, and I said it for thirty minutes starting
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: at nine o'clock time. Yeah, and I'm.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Really old, so I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you this.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Here's one thing I want you to used to so
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: having children, Yeah, there's there's a lot of things that
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: come with it. One of the things is that you
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: guys probably enjoy watching television shows together. Yeah, like you know,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: maybe Yellowstone or Man the New One, Kelly Larder's Leopard.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, and Cassie Randolph's sisters.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: And Michelle Ellie Larder who was originally the famous person
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: for the whipped Cream bikini and Varsity Blues twenty some
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: years ago. All still smokeshaw. You're gonna watch a lot
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: of TV by yourself, So Canyon had when we had
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: our baby. I would be like, Hey, we're in the
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: middle of Sopranos or whatever it was. I mean, this
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: is circa nineteen sixty four, and I go, I'll meet
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: you downstairs once Grayson's asleep and you've milked him and
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: or whatever we breastfed him. Sorry, sorry breastfed mister.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I heard it, and I was like, I get it.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, yeah, And I'm like, I'll see it downstairs,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: and i'd be downstairs. It'd be six forty five. I'd
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: be like, oh, she'll be down here. I'm gonna make
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: her a cocktail and maybe some popcorn. I'm gonna set
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: up nice for eleven. Still by myself, Episode forty nine,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: and this went on Monday through.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: She's to sleep upstairs.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Oh god yeah, and it's insane. And it was like
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: and it's still extensive today, like the other night. Like
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: last night, I literally said to I go, hey, listen,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: you might want to put Grayson to sleep. It's Grace's
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: sixth birthday. It was a chuck e cheese, very raucous event.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Twenty five people. Yeah, it's it's back. It's back. It's
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: not the big red mechanical thing they got like trampolines,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: and and I go, I'm gonna lay down with Grayson
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: to put him asleep, but I'm gonna sneak out because
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I got a pack. She's like, oh yeah, of course.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I gotta leave because my flight's gonna
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: leave it ye seven thirty. It didn't leave till four
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: that later. Travel And that's how much I love this show.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: But I go, uh so if you can come in,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, of course. So I go and I lay
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: down with him, and I might pretending to be asleep,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: you know, And I wake up, and I'm like, I
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: should probably sneak out as I do. She's snoring and
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: has been for four hours, and that's going to be
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: your life and that's you know, relatively seven to forty
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: seven years.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: I have an important question for all of you, But
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: before we get to my question for Bob, we should
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: give Ashley a shout out that the reason we are
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: not making Ashley travel right now is because she has
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: so many babies. So we will extend you that Ben
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: for like a month after.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: The baby from you said I get two days off, I'll.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Feel it for you for three on the zooms within
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: two days, for thirty six.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: For like a month traveling to Bob, I want to
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: ask you a question because I think might be curious
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: about this. Did having the baby help your marriage, like
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: like deep in your love, deep in your marriage, improve
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: your marriage? Or were there some tough times tough times
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: talked about?
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: However, I will say this, I think both, honestly. I
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: really do think both tough times. But I've never loved
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: my wife more like honestly, and I don't think she's
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: ever loved me more like. It's but you go through
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: these times where you're so tired, you're so physically depleted.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: You don't mean to take it out on each other,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: You just do, you know, and it's like you're gonna
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: still be working, and you're gonna still be trying to
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: provide for your family and doing the things that you do.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: And but you're also You're you, and I are like
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: this way, like I the only reason I'm going a
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: five thirty eight flight tomorrow is because I want to
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: go home and help my kids. Right, I'm not going home.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: There's yeah, I have a party to go to tomorrow
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: night with my wife, but I would make it if
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I was on the nine getting home at four or thirty.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I want to go home early to help her with
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: the kids because she had them all day today by herself.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: And that's going to be you, because that's who you are,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: and I love that about you, and that's what everyone
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: loves about you. So the exhaustion is real, the fatigue
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: is real, and the sad part is the person you
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: love the most, your wife. You're gonna take it out
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: on her occasionally. She's gonna take it on you, probably
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: a lot more. I mean, Kenyon's a little different, but
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: and I say different being special and very wonderful and
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: incredibly love love, yes, But I mean my wife is
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: my wife's tough man, and I love her for it.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: But I'll say this like, I think the thing that
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: you'll experience the most is that you what you think
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: is love now you don't have a clue. And I
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: say that because I love Kanyon more than life itself,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Like I would have never gotten married again if I
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: hadn't met a Kanyon. But then having our children, I'm
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: just like, holy shit, my head's gonna explode, Like I've
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: never felt this way. Someone says something kind of sideways
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: about my child and I'm ready to go bonkers and
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not that guy, and it's like this is so
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: deep and so different. But then when you look at
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: your wife and you realize that she did this, dude,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: mind blowing.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: What do you think?
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I I'm gonna cry again. Yeah, I mean I trust
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Bob for every word he ever says. I just I
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: get it and I get and it's cool because I
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: also have this funny image. Right when I told Bob
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: that Jessica is pregnant. Bob and I were on the
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: golf course and we're playing golf together and riding in
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: the car. We have a great time, and then Bob
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: shows me a text that Kenyon has sent him and
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: it's like so and so just pooped in the bucket.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: The other one tried to throw it at him, and.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: My kids are fairal yeah.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: And I'm sitting in a lawn chair with a cocktail
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: like it was like it was the funniest text I've
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: ever read in my life.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: And I was just like, funny, funny is that? Kapa
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Kapa Gamma?
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: And I just and then like it's what I love.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Is what I've always loved about life is as I
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: get older, I care more, but I also care less
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: on certain things. And I'm excited to enter into a
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: stage again where I'll care less about probably so many
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: things I care so much about. Right now, I don't
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: care less about yourself, and I'm gonna care so much
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: more for something outside of me, which has always been
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: a healthy step in my life. It's always been healthier
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: for me to extend externally and not so much focus
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: internally and try to build up whatever I'm doing. And
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: I'm excited. I am because I know it's gonna make
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: me a better man. And I see all these dads
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: around me who are incredible men. Now they might not
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: function as you'd picture this incredible man, but they love well,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: they care well, they support well, and they're flying on
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: five thirty fights to get home to their kids tomorrow
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: morning when you know.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: The way guys, Yeah, it's not easy for anybody, but.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: It's it's something that, like, for me, that excites me
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: that I'll be entering into something where I'm willing and
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: able and excited about. Hey, I'm gonna wake up at
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: the crack of dawn tomorrow just to get back home.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: They'll tell you this, So Canyon, I land, and Canyon goes,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: this is ridiculous, Just come home later, don't worry about it,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and she's like, get on the go back to the
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: nine ten. I go. No, I switched to the five
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: point thirty for a reason. She's like why. I'm like,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: cause I want three and a half hours of my
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: kid before I go to this stupid party that we're hosting,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: you know. And she's like, okay, well whatever, And all
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I can think of was, first of all, it was
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: really cool that And I mean, I know justics like
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: this too. Like Canyon doesn't see everything. She makes fun
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: of me, that everything I do is a party and fun,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: but she knows that, you know, a lot of it
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: isn't right. But she's always like she's like, no, just
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: enjoy yourself, Like stay there. That's the most beautiful place.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Because we've had dinner here before. In this place, Terry
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Outa is so gorgeous. She's like, enjoy it. You won't
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: even get to see it. And I'm like, oh, it's
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: gonna be great. It's gonna be great. The point is
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter when you're here without them. It's yes,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: it's a it's a reprieve and it's a moment, but
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: all you can think about is, oh, man, I wish
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: my kids could see this, you know. Or it's like
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: when you have these kids, it's like, especially where the
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: age of that Grayson's at now, which is he's six,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: he's become like my little best friend. Like I'll put
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: him in the car and we'll drive around and we
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: have real conversations, like and I'm blown away by how
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: smart he is. And that doesn't happen without Canyon putting
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: in that time. Like, you know, public schools are great,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: and I love it, but Kanyon is the one teaching
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: them how to spell and how to add and how
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: to have a conversation. And it's it's just this beauty
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: that you see that you recognize in your spouse that
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: is is is otherworldly. It really is, and it really
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: makes to me to answer Amy's question long, long, long form. Yeah,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: it's been really challenging at times, and I won't lie
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: it's been There's been times where I'm like, why does
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: everything have to be so hard? You know? And there's
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: other times like, oh my god, this is the most
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: magic thing I could ever imagine, and why do I
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: wait so long to do this. I'm forty eight when
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I had my first kid, and it's like, thank God
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I waited that long though, because it was with Kanyon.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: When it's with the right person, that's why you do
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: it right, or that's and maybe it isn't having kids,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Maybe that isn't what a couple needs for us. It
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: was like the only reason I even thought about getting
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: married again was to have a family. But it wasn't
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: a time I met Canyon that I was willing to
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: do it. And I'm so thankful that I did because
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: she was the right person for me. And Jess is
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: such the right person for you. Like you guys are
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: like two kindness bombs just exploding together all the time.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: It's like I've never met two people that are so
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: meant for each other in my life and the two
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: of you, and it's like so wonderful when you love
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: someone like I do. You to see Jess come along
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: and just make you even more lovable, It's fucking mind blowing.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it blows my mind too. I touched on this earlier, Bob,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: and I want to hear from you. So you were
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: forty eight when you had your first kid. I mentioned that,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm thirty five and I'm having my first kid,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: and there is this I'll be one month, I guess
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: when our baby is born, I'll be one month away
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: from turning thirty six, with thirty five years of my
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: life what I would call being selfish, because that's really
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: just who I've been, right, I'm living my life. I'm
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: doing the things I want to do. I'm investing into
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: the time and the people that I want to invest into,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: you know, And so there is this unique fear, I
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: guess of how in the world do I kind of
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: rip that selfishness out of me? And we talked about
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: it with the Golden Ladies and it was great. But
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: I would love for you to dive into what it
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: felt like at forty eight to have your first kid,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: living forty eight years of your life without a child,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: and still finding the space to not be resentful towards
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: this fact that this kid walked into your world and
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: ripped it all up and said, Nope, my time is yours. Now,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: how did you make that transitions?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I would say I I would
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: be more definitive of the word selfish than you. You
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: are very kind and giving person. I didn't go anywhere
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: and dig wells, and I didn't go anywhere and provide
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: water and all the things that you've done. I was
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: somebody who was at every party in Hollywood, you know,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: So my my version of selfish is probably a lot
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: different than yours. And I mean that necessarily. I think
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: we're both very kind and very giving people. And I've
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: known any forever and I love her so much. She
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: could probably speak to that, like, you're just a different
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: person than me. I mean, I didn't do the things
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: that you do, So you saying your selfish, you saying
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: your selfish is a different version of me saying I'm selfish.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: The same idea exists, though, like me doing what I
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: love to do and you do what you love to
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: do are the same thing. We both said we love
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: to do these things.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Right, And I did, and I didn't even I didn't
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: think I want kidd I didn't think I wanted kids
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: at a certain point. But I will say this, like,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: you know, hosting the Playboy Jazz and Playboy Radio and
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: all that dumb shit I did for so many years,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: and I just thought, oh, I guess that's what I'm
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: supposed to be doing, and my sister being like you
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: shallow piece of s you know. I mean, there was
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: a point where I'm like, my sister, I'll never forget it.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: She calls me, She's like, you are not bringing Jennifer
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Love Hewitt to the cottage from a Royal day weekend.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I didn't even say I was. She's like,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I know you're dating or doda dumb stuff like that.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Like that's to me, is selfish.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Can we just possible?
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: No?
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: No, no, We're not going back on there. Point is
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say, is I think that my
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know what path of self destruction I might
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: have been on without my children, but I do know
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: that I was always pretty mindful in Midwestern about the
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: way I approach things, which I think is a huge
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Badge of Honor with I love Midwestern values and I
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: love that I love in stewing that in my children.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: But I was still kind of like, you know, what's next.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just every next thing that comes,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I'm just taking it and running with it. And I'm
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: still surviving. I guess there came a point where I
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: was like, there's got to be something more than this. Yeah,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: And like for me, like I think about like my
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: relationship with with Canyon, Like I love her and she's
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: incredibly smart and insightful and intelligent. I don't know what
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: we'd be talking about ten years later if we didn't
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: have a kid, you know, And I'm so thankful that
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I got something else to focus on besides me. Like,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: you know, one of the funniest things that happens in
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: our life, and this happens literally on a daily basis,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: is my six year old Grayson. I'll be like, I'll
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: take in the McDonald's playland and I'll be like, hey, buddy, day,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: can we get French fries? No? Not today. We'll have
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: a bottle of water. And you know, I'm just like
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: be complaining the playlin like this right in her house
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: and He'll go in and literally the woman who's like
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: a twelve year old McDonald's waitress will walk over with
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: a tray with a bottle of water on it, and
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: he'll yell from the playland, Yeah, it's him, he's the bachelor.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: You can get a picture with him. I'm like, what,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: And it's become so funny, like it's no longer I don't.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I think I was trying to say it earlier tonight
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: to somebody of it. I was like, I was like,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: trust me, it goes from being like a cool thing
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: to being this like semi famous guy to actually being
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: really laughable. If you can look at this and laugh
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: at yourself, then you've actually kind of made it to
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: the point where I'm actually going to really be your friend.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Because I think I used to always say it to
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: when they would ask me for advice for the new bachelors,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: and I would always go, you're not Ben Affleck, And
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: if a monkey hands out of flower and doesn't give
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: one of those girls a flower, she's gonna cry. Think
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: about it that way and get over yourself, you know.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: And I clearly wasn't around for much of the advice sessions,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: but that was my mindset of the show was I
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: was like, get over you, like it isn't about you.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: And I got over it really fast with my kids.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: If I hadn't been over it previously. I realized really
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: quickly that the one thing I learned from my children
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: was it's no longer about me. And I love that,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Like I really love investing in them, and I love
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: watching them even when they're watching me, because it gives
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: you a different view of even how to see yourself.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: But I've also I want to say this too, like
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: love your wife more than you've ever loved her in
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: these times because Kraigan. But I think that it's important
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: because my dad loved my mom so much and my
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: dad is no longer with us, and I want my
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: kids to feel that way about love, like the way
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I feel about my dad and my mom's love. Like,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: you know, I didn't know their problems. I never saw them.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: All I saw was these two people who, no matter what,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: they get through it. And so I want my kids
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: to see that. And so you know, if and we
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: probably bicker in front of them too much and all
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, which is maybe a good thing,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: maybe bad thing. I'm sure there's a doctor's pock book
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: about all that shit. The point is like, you'll never
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: love your wife more than when you see her dealing
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: with your children. And I think you should never let
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: your children see it more how much you love your wife,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: because that's going to be what they see in relationships.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Your daughter needs to know that a man should respect her.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Your daughter needs to know that a man should put
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: her first. Right, It's just like my son need to
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: know that they should put a woman first, in a
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: woman that they love first. It's important to.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Me, Bob, as I h any other advice. I didn't
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: ask you for advice, and I would love to have
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: any advice. You just shared some great stuff about loving
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: my wife well, and that will sit with me. She
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: deserves it one and she's great, so that's easy.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna always want to though, yeah, because she's
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: not always going to be super nice, you know, I mean,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: at least you know my experience. But yeah, no, I
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: think it's I think it's pretty amazing, like when you
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: go through these moments, especially as your as your daughter
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: gets older, and I'm assuming you guys will probably have
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: another kid and stuff, you know, but you know who knows.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. You don't need any advice
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: from me. Dude, I'm a disasker.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: What are you most worried about?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you most worried about?
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Is a day? I said it, like the selfishness. Like personally,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: what I'm most worried about is this, like this idea
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: that I've just gotten. You know, when I get you
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: get married, there's there's things that you kind of not
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: rip away, but there's different rhythms, different things that you
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: implement in your life to be a good husband. My
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: passions and my desires and all those things that haven't
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: had to change since marriage. Because Jessica, it's like that's
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: not where I married you. I didn't marry you so
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: you become some like version of yourself. I married you
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: to be the best version of yourself, which is increasing
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: those things.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Which speak her confidence.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's awesome. But with a kid, you know, there's
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: a whole different like mindset where it's like, no, some
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: of those things have to be changed, Like a new
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: version of myself has to exist because my handicap can't
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: get below a five.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: Now every you're playing that, let's go fun and because
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: like you know, there's just things that have to change
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: and have to be tweaked.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: And I think that's what I'm most fearful of. Is
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: am I going to be able to do that without resentment?
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: And am I going to be able to do that
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: with excitement and joy? That's what I'm fearful of, because
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I don't do things well out of resentment. Even if
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: it's out of even if it's the right thing, there
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: has to be a better reason. And I know the
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: reason is because I want to be a dad that's present.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: As Umberto was saying the night, I want to be
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: a dad that's available. I want to be a dad
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: that's that's there, not a dad that's like, yeah, I
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: remember dad playing golf five days a week. Right. What
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: I'm also, I mean, I think I'm fearful about I
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: was saying. I was talking to Courtney about tonight, and
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: I don't think she'll mind me sharing it. We have
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: the same thing where we have worst case scenario thinking
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: at night. So when I lay my head on the
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: pillar tonight, no matter what I know it, I'll have
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: some type of negative thoughts flow into my head. It
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: will be something about I'm assuming tonight of who I
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: didn't talk to or what I said to somebody, or
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: maybe I didn't talk to somebody too, like a recap
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: a recap, and my recaps are always pretty harsh. So
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I'm working with somebody right now, harsh on yourself, on myself.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: The other side of this is my worst case scenario
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: thinking when I first got married, was Jessica's going to
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: work tomorrow morning and night. I start to have these
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: thoughts and these fears about her driving to work, or
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: even as silly as like when I got a puppy,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: is our puppy in the crate gonna be okay tonight?
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Is he thirsty?
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: You have some anxiety issues.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: I have some anxiety issues. And I'm just starting to
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: figure this out for the first time in my life,
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: mostly because I started talking to my some my mentor
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: and my growth coach whatever, gonna call him about this,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: and he's like, you have some anxiety issues, and when
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: you have a baby, this is going to only increase
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: because you're gonna have a little human that you're like literally.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Responsible for every single thing.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: So that's a fear of mine, is how does that
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: play out? What does that look like?
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: I think that's the hardest part.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah too, I mean do you know what it is.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: It's one of those things that I think I'm the
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: opposite of you in that regard. Like I I hate
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: to say it, I don't think about anything. I don't know.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I mean maybe I do and I just don't realize it.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: But I think that Kanyon thinks. Kanyon is probably more
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: like you in that regard, Like she really thinks about everything, you.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: See, Jessica doesn't like.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: So I think I think jess and I are probably
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: justin and I like you and Kanyon like in that regard.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: But I think that's what makes a good parenting team.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Like you know, if you're both obsessing over every little detail,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: what a disaster for that child, right, you got one
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: of us going back off, you know, I mean Kenyon
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: and I. I will say this, like Kanyon and I
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: have the most honest relationship I've ever had in my life.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: And I've been married a lot. No. No, but you
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: know I say that joking, but you know, the first
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: one kind of counted, no, But it's true. Like I
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: think about it, like I never fought with my access,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I never argue with him because I love them and
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I cared about them, and we got along and I'm
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: not saying I didn't care enough, but I the stakes
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: were what the stakes were, and it was like, does
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: it matter if I win this argument?
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: A f f it?
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: You know. Now we and it's been like this since
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: our at the beginning of a relationship, though before we
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: had children, i'd be like, so honest, that was painful
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: for me because I hate confrontation. So i'd be like,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: you know, uh yeah, I call you Canyon because I
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: dated a girl named Jessica. In fact, i'm still dating her.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: She used on an Oscan and my co host is
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Jessica and she introduced us, and I just can't keep
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: it straight in my head sometimes because I, you know,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I think you're all kind of cute. So I'm just
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: gonna call you Kenyan, and Kenya is like, okay, I'm like,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: what the hell? Why is she actually not fighting with me?
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: And but it was like we like she was so
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: comfortable and confident in her own skin that I couldn't
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to not just give her all the
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: chips on the table. Like so when I think about
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: like relationships and I think about things like like she's
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: the one person who I can honestly say, like you
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: could bring up anything for my past and I'd go, oh, yeah,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: she knows that one. That's a funny one. Remember this one?
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I know that one. Like it was
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: like one of these things. But what I love about
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: it is that for our future, it also kind of
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: sets the stakes in a certain way as well, like
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I can trust her with anything. And we kind of
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: touched on it tonight when I said, when we were
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: having our second child, my my biggest fear, which was
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: do I have enough love in me to give to
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: another kid? You know, like I've never loved anyone the
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: way I love Grayson are firstborn, and now here's coming
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: this second child. Holy shit, it's a boy. Do I
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: have enough love for another little boy? I don't know
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: if I can do it. And I was really doubting
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: myself and I didn't because I was, you know, I'm old,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, what the hell, I don't even know
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: if I have this capability, And trust me, you do.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: It's amazing how much I love Blake as well. But
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I think having that self out
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: and having having the ability to kind of like look
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: within and challenge yourself a little bit, you already beat
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: the system. The guys they have to worry about that
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: stuff for the guys who don't think about it. The
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: fact that you're thinking about it, God bless you, dude,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: and your your family and your wife and your children
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: are going to be so much better for it because
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: you're thinking about it. Like, at the end of the day,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the right answer is, because clearly
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know anything.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: In the world that you worry less about being an Higgins.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: No, Ben Higgins is the most sincere and thoughtful and
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: kind person.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: For a long time, and I have not one ounce
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: of concern about you being the ultimate dad.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Not even I wore my dad's sweater and I hoping you.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Say that he's also wearing loafers, and.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: So I want to say this, I so agree with you, sugar.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: So one of the nicest compliments I ever got in
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: my life was when I would say we're having a baby,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: and there, oh, you're going to be the greatest dad.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I I feel like it's almost an embarrassment that people
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: would say that to me now that you're having a kid,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: because I and I do feel like I'm a really
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: good dad and I'm super hands on and I care,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: and I'm I'm but Ben, You're just You're just You've
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: been built to be a dad dad, and you're.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: An old soul. You're also about that tonight with all
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: the golden ladies.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: But I said that to you when you wrote your book,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: and I remember calling you and I were on the phone.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: It was it was kind of during the whole Harrison
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: thing and you and I were talking, and I remember
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: saying to you, I was like, dude, you're just such
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: an old soul, like I feel like he's an og
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: even though you're ten years.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: After me, you are the oldest thirty.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're I And that's the nicest compliment that I
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: do so I can give you.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: I take it as a complement. Yeah, I mean credit
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: to my family too, Like credit to my friends and
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: my family who always, no matter what was happening, pulled
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: me back to reality, give me perspective. And I think
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: that's a gift, just always having the best of people
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: around you, two to speak into you, to hold you accountable,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: to celebrate you. And that's the best thing. And it's
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: been the best part of this show too, is you know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: coming off the show, not everybody's awesome, A lot of
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: people are. I'd say most are, but to find the
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: few that are like just good rocks to surround yourself with.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: And Ben, what about when we started this podcast, Like
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: we started this podcast on like this a very sad
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: day for you, And how many years has it been?
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: Eight nine?
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Can we started this podcast in the day that not
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: strategically that the relationship was I remember, yeah, Amy was
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: seeing dollar signs, I.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Was, but I knew your heart was so broken the
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: day we started. And thank God for Ashley who really
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: like she's been such a best dye to you, you
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, But like your heart was broken
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: when we started this podcast, and to be with you
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: over this many years to see your heart mend. It
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: healed in front of my eyes, It grew in front
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: of my eyes, it filled up, just filled it up
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: like to such a bigger than it was before. And
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: now like this is your dream.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: It's just like and I'm excited for the next eight
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: years to see you and what happens. And I hope
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: everyone comes on that ride with you because they are
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: in it with you.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Like it's wild. It's wild to think that we started
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: this as two single humans and soon we'll have three
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: kids a part of.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: This show, and I eat my words every day. When
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Ashley would call me or call me asking me to
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: do something for Jared. This is way before they were together.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: She'd be like, let's get Jared tickets of this, and
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: I'm like, Ashley, this guy's not treating you, and she's
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: she just knew. I have such respect for Ashley because
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: she loved him, and she was like, I am going
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: to be patient.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I remember feeling that way them to look at her.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, if I couldn't eat my words more, she
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: you know, sugarman.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: I remember because I didn't know either one of them,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: but I knew him from the show. I knew you,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: and I knew others. But I remember thinking, why is
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: she keep lining herself up for this? She was now
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: he is so committed and devoted.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: So obsessed in love with her, and it's just like wow,
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: she knew she was getting down her guy.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's wild. Well, it's an exciting time for the
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Almost Famis podcast. I appreciate you both. I love you both.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: Thanks for letting me jump in because I love this show.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: We had to do a producer sash Yeah.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: Sometimes and then I'll get a lot of hate mash.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: How would you ever get hat.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: She has her own podcast?
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: Now I have too.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Can I tell quick Sugarman story before we bring up please?
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: So I want to say this, and I know you
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: know this story, but here's why I love Sugarman so much,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: and I would follow her into fire, I swear to
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: God so uh many many years ago. Do you mind
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: me telling this story? Do you want to say?
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: I have to remember it. I known Bob for so long.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: It's so when I had just come off The Bachelor,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: and Amy Sugarman was the booking coordinator and all the
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: other things you did for the seacrest stuff, and I
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: was getting sued by the Bachelor franchise. Can I talk
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: about this?
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: Of course?
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Of course, this is why I love Amy Sugarman so much.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: This is one of the many reasons. But and Amy
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: was always my friend, and she would book me for
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: many years after this with band from TV and all
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: the other things we would do. But at that time,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I was being sued by the Bachelor franchise and I
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to talk about the reason why they had
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: me on the show in the first place, which was
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: my music career and The only way I could talk
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: about it is if the host brought it up. It
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: was in it was in us, like Lee Order and
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I and I just I have to talk about this
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: because you're on the show with me right now. So
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: I would go on all these shows and they all knew,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: they were all my friends, the hosts and stuff, and
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: no one would ever bring it up. So we would
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: talk about the Bachelor, you know, never talk about anything else.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I'd go on Seacrest and he would go and first
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: of all, to have Ryan Seacrest bring up your music
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: career was a big deal, right, and Seacrest would go, well,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, let's talk about your music career. So,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've been doing this for a really long time,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: and you know, and I'm like Amy Sugarman, and I
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: knew it was always Amy Sugarman, and I loved you
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: so much for it. You could have called me to
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: do anything and I would do it. But I was
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: always like man and I and I've said it to
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: anyone who will listen for many years. I'm like, you know,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: when you make friends in Hollywood, it's very rare, but
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: when you make friends in Hollywood, it will actually stick
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: up for you, when you're getting your ass kicked, it's
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: like it's it's an unbelievable feeling, because when you feel
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: like you're getting attacked, it's a really lonely place, you know,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: especially when you're from the Midwest and all of a
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: sudden you're in LA and you know, and and I
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: just appreciate you and thank you for you know, creating
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: this for all of us, and thanks for giving us
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: a space, but thanks for always having our back because
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of people didn't and you did, and so
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: I love you for that. So thank you.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Do you remember that?
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, Ben, I ever remember the same moments
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: with you in tears and you having the same thing
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: that happened to Bob, and y'all just.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Stick together, we sure do.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: You just stick it out.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: You know. I didn't even know Ben until next time.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: I've been Ben, I've been.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Bob, I've been Amy.
• 46:43
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• 46:46
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