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Urban Meyer Show: Tuesday, December 7 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Own this thing. It's ours. Come on, let's go the
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  Speaker 1: Walt County and Nino four. Let's own this stadium. Make
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  Speaker 1: it ours. Welcome to the Urban Meyers Shower Show show.
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  Speaker 1: Former Jaguar Jeff Lockman and J. P. Shadrick discussed the
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  Speaker 1: latest Jaguars news with the head coach. The Urban Meyers
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  Speaker 1: Show starts right now and welcome in to the Urban
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  Speaker 1: Meyers Show on this Tuesday afternoon on the Jaguars Radio Network.
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  Speaker 1: JP Shadrick, Jeff Lockman, and Jaguars head coach Urban Meyer
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  Speaker 1: as we recap the Jags loss in Week thirteen the
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams and early hold, but fought back with
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  Speaker 1: a third team play drive to get in the end
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  Speaker 1: zone to make it a three point game. The offense though,
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  Speaker 1: couldn't get much done the rest of the day, and
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  Speaker 1: the defense, though they played well early, just kind of
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  Speaker 1: ran out of gas, it felt like late in the
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  Speaker 1: second quarter and into the third. Coach, Yeah, I'm really
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  Speaker 1: looking forward having these radio shows with you guys, and
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  Speaker 1: we get this thing rolling so that that's going to happen. Um. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, you know, you hand the ball ten points
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  Speaker 1: basically against our defense against like I called him an
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  Speaker 1: All Star team. I mean, there's a lot of very
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  Speaker 1: good players that we're going against. And uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: kickoff return, we played great defense out him to field goal,
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  Speaker 1: and then you come right back and laid on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: You can't do that or you lose games. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: but they fought and our offense fought right back and
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  Speaker 1: and drove the ball down the length of the field.
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  Speaker 1: Trevor had something really good, really good. Scramble made some
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  Speaker 1: good plays. Um, we were protecting them and uh made
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  Speaker 1: a ten seven ten seven. Life's pretty good. Then we
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  Speaker 1: really won the battle field position. From that point forward,
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  Speaker 1: their average start was the minus one, minus seven, minus nine,
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  Speaker 1: I believe fourteen. Um, you know in those kind of
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  Speaker 1: scenarios that we actually got the ball one time at
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  Speaker 1: the forty, one time at the fifty, and then we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get the ball back to start the second half.
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  Speaker 1: So you're talking about on the road against a good
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  Speaker 1: team that you can't have a better scenario than that,
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  Speaker 1: And we just didn't capitalize. And and you talked about
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  Speaker 1: laying it on the ground. Turnover differential, we talked about
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  Speaker 1: this from the very onset of the season continues to
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  Speaker 1: be a problem. Minus fifteen turnover differential, and for a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people that really don't understand how that impacts
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  Speaker 1: a game. I mean, here's a couple other numbers. Your
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  Speaker 1: defense has allowed sixty one points off of the twenty
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  Speaker 1: one offensive giveaways, and your offense has only been able
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  Speaker 1: to score three points off of the six takeaways. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: so not only is it a minus fifteen turnover differential,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a minus fifty five point differential. Those things matter.
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  Speaker 1: It's a differential. It's been that way along before us,
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  Speaker 1: and it can be that way long after us. We
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  Speaker 1: did a thirty year study and and uh, you you
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  Speaker 1: are minus wanted to turnover ratio. It's uh sixty seven
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  Speaker 1: pretendial for cent a time, you're gonna lose. You lose
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  Speaker 1: two turnovers, you're it's eight in the hi eighties, So
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  Speaker 1: you basically lost the game. And Uh, this is I've
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  Speaker 1: never had to dealt with it the oldest before. This
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  Speaker 1: is something that we emphasize. Obviously we're not getting it
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  Speaker 1: done and coaching it well enough. But uh, if you
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  Speaker 1: turn them all over, you loose. And that's like I said,
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  Speaker 1: that's in the that's time tested for many many years.
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  Speaker 1: So what's the solution, take care of the football, keep
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  Speaker 1: working it, and uh get it better, head coach Remord
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  Speaker 1: Maria with us James Robinson had that early fumble, and
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  Speaker 1: it's a position group a lot of folks are focused
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  Speaker 1: on this week. After that game in Los Angeles, Carlos
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  Speaker 1: Hide came in the game. After that, Robinson touched it
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  Speaker 1: again in the third quarter and again in the final minutes.
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  Speaker 1: What is the ideal situation for your running back and
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  Speaker 1: how do you get everybody back on the same page there,
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  Speaker 1: staff and players included. Well, we're obviously we're dealing with James.
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  Speaker 1: It's not full speed. He's not practicing Wednesday and Thursday. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: he practiced someone Friday. It's a I mean, no one's there.
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  Speaker 1: He's as toughest cadacor that. I've said that every week,
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  Speaker 1: but you know he's also in the last two games
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  Speaker 1: we've had twice the balls on the ground and then
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  Speaker 1: Carlos goes in the balls on the ground. Darry had
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  Speaker 1: an ankle issue in the second half of the game,
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  Speaker 1: so he was unable to go in the game. So
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  Speaker 1: you only have three running acts up um and then
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  Speaker 1: I once again don't Microman's a rotation of the running backs. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, one thing you do, you come out of
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  Speaker 1: the game if there's a fumble, and when you go
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  Speaker 1: back in, that's that's up to you know, the coaches
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  Speaker 1: and and go back in the game. Um. So as
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  Speaker 1: far as being on the same page, you know, taking
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  Speaker 1: care of the football as a premium. Uh, and that's
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  Speaker 1: always going to be a premium here and I mean everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine someone say it's not that important. And
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  Speaker 1: James is historically outstanding take care of the ball. So
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  Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself why, Well, it's fundamentals and
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  Speaker 1: you've got to make sure that we're getting some work
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  Speaker 1: in practice. He is still a relatively young player, great player. UM.
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  Speaker 1: And I showed tape actually we met earlier today and
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  Speaker 1: I showed about a fifteen play tape of against him
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  Speaker 1: all in the same game the Titans and um, when
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  Speaker 1: we played him before, and he was, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think one of the top running backs in the NFL
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  Speaker 1: at the time and very well. Uh, as far as
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  Speaker 1: you know, we call it chin chin chin, and it's
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  Speaker 1: uh clot lock it clampet is the sound bites that
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  Speaker 1: are running back uses, and he is outstanding at it.
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  Speaker 1: For some reason he hasn't been and we have to
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  Speaker 1: get back to those fundamentals. Urban James certainly one of
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  Speaker 1: the highly respected guys in your locker room, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: he does things that seems like always the right way
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  Speaker 1: there would be on the field off the field. How
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  Speaker 1: important was it to talk with him today? Oh, James
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  Speaker 1: and I got a great relationship. He's a guy that
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  Speaker 1: you know you're talking about from January through just a grinder,
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  Speaker 1: you know. He the one thing when you watch him,
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  Speaker 1: he looked works so hard on his leg drive. Uh
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  Speaker 1: where he became an excellent second level runner. Last year
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  Speaker 1: he was not. He was a very good runner, but
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  Speaker 1: he really you know, we identified it. We worked together
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  Speaker 1: on it, and you know by the same thing we
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  Speaker 1: did with Zeke Elliott coming. You know, as early in
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  Speaker 1: his college career, he just wasn't breaking those second level
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  Speaker 1: tackles and James, we saw it. So we made a
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  Speaker 1: highlight video, watched it and said, look, one of the
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  Speaker 1: top five running backs in the league, and he sees it.
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  Speaker 1: He was excited when he left, and we gotta get
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  Speaker 1: him back to that level. Head coach Revor Meyer with
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  Speaker 1: us Trevor Lawrence. Now we see his poise at the podium.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, after tough games like Sunday and on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: when he speaks with the media, I'm guessing he's the
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  Speaker 1: same way in the meeting rooms and the the offensive
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  Speaker 1: meeting rooms and the quarterback coaches and the offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 1: and all that. But I mean, this is wearing on
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  Speaker 1: everybody obviously. How is Trevor handling the situation with the
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  Speaker 1: offense right now? Trevor is a winner, you know, Trevor.
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  Speaker 1: You look at his record, We all are what we're
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  Speaker 1: at record is, and right now we're not winning, and
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  Speaker 1: you can see it's bothering him. You can see that, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: the efficiency of offense when I you know, once again,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to belabor the point about going back
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  Speaker 1: to our Titans game, but Titans game at one point
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  Speaker 1: where if we score on that one yard line, we're
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  Speaker 1: within five points, and you just watch the execution of
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  Speaker 1: offense in that game, which I've watched already twice um
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  Speaker 1: with our coaches. It's you know, it was to tell
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  Speaker 1: me that we'd still be out of these struggles this
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  Speaker 1: time of year, I'd say, you're out of your mind.
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  Speaker 1: That won't happen. And because we were performed. You think
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  Speaker 1: about the Phoenix Cardinals, you think about the UH Titans
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  Speaker 1: and these the elevation of the offense that was heading
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  Speaker 1: in the right direction, the trajectory of the offense was
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  Speaker 1: heading the right direction. So we just got to get back.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we've got five games left and our best
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  Speaker 1: version ourself is pretty good. I when you talked about
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  Speaker 1: Trevor being a winner, and obviously when winning is not happening,
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  Speaker 1: it can take a toll on a person's psyche. In
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  Speaker 1: your sports performance model, you have a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: that are kind of geared towards the body. Do you
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  Speaker 1: also have things that are available to the player's mind.
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  Speaker 1: When I played, we had people that we could talk
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  Speaker 1: to to kind of maybe even to teach us visualization.
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  Speaker 1: Are those things available to players as well? Well? We
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  Speaker 1: have a sports psychologists, uh two of them, and then
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  Speaker 1: but I think that's a lot of the unit we
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  Speaker 1: call power of the unit. You know, I've psychology major,
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  Speaker 1: and you know I've that's part of our job. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I have a video staff that's uh got uh endless
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  Speaker 1: limitless resources. You know, I think that's my job, but
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  Speaker 1: it's also the job of the position coach. So absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: this is a world of visualization. You know, James Robinson,
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  Speaker 1: uh has been down. He came in today and he left.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm exaggerated. I don't think his feet were
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  Speaker 1: touching the ground when he left, because you visualized it
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  Speaker 1: was what he saw, he was and he can get back.
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  Speaker 1: He looked at me and said, I can't wait till
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow to get back at it. Um. So we got
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  Speaker 1: to get you know, cleanse ourselves of the nonsense of
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  Speaker 1: a poor play and and be positive about these next
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  Speaker 1: five games and get some momentum back in this organization.
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  Speaker 1: At one point, we won two out of three and
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  Speaker 1: life was pretty good around here. Guys are bouncing around
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  Speaker 1: and our defense is playing number one in the defense
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, Uh in the league. An
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  Speaker 1: offense at one point was one of the highest trajectory
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  Speaker 1: offenses in the NFL. We started slow and then alson
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  Speaker 1: you saw Trevor's completion rate go up, QBR go up,
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  Speaker 1: and Uh yeah, absolutely answer your question. Absolutely, we have
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  Speaker 1: that available, but we all have most of it's available
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  Speaker 1: through the position. Coach. With these five games left, the
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  Speaker 1: challenge is always kind of getting to the end because
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  Speaker 1: bodies are store. I've been there, and you've got a
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  Speaker 1: couple of guys that got nicked up in this past game.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of guys that have been nicked up and
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  Speaker 1: the guys that got Nick, Brandon Lender and Ben Bart.
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  Speaker 1: How are they doing and what do you expect for
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  Speaker 1: this week? I know it's early, but still yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: still early. Uh. You know, Brandon told me he should
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  Speaker 1: be ready to go. Bart for sure, we'll be ready
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  Speaker 1: to go. Uh. Tyson Campbell was out for a few series.
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  Speaker 1: I understand you don't want no more this week. We've
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  Speaker 1: obviously been practice today, but you know, I see most
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  Speaker 1: of the guys that James has felt better this week,
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  Speaker 1: So uh, I'm anticipating, you know, for this time of year.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'll tell you what though. Man, we've had
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  Speaker 1: some awful injuries on offense that have set us back
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, but uh, we should be fairly healthy.
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  Speaker 1: Urban will come back in just a moment and flip
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  Speaker 1: it around to the Jaguars defense this past week against
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  Speaker 1: the Rams, and this is the Urban Meyer Show on
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars Radio Network. Come Back, j P. Shadrick, Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Loghman and Jaguars head coach Urban Meyer, the Jags and
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  Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans coming up in Week fourteen. Our final
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  Speaker 1: look at Week thirteen the Jaguars and the l A. Rams,
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  Speaker 1: and as we mentioned earlier briefly, coach defense on the
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  Speaker 1: field a lot, you know, a lot of double digit
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  Speaker 1: played drive for the Rams. That felt like early in
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  Speaker 1: the game especially, and then they started throwing around the
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  Speaker 1: yard in the third quarter. There that was a big challenge.
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  Speaker 1: It's a it's a Rams offense that can you know,
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  Speaker 1: we've seen it before this season. They can line up
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  Speaker 1: a scoreboard. What was the biggest challenge with that group
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  Speaker 1: going in? The biggest challenge is not playing good offense.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the best defense is sustaining the ball. Take
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  Speaker 1: care of the ball. You know, that's one of the
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  Speaker 1: you talk about the culture and the plan to win
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  Speaker 1: here at the Jaguars has played great defense. When we
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  Speaker 1: do we win. We played against the Buffalo Bills and
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  Speaker 1: we didn't score a lot of points. But the one
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  Speaker 1: thing we didn't do is put our defense in the
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  Speaker 1: harms way. You put your defense in his harm way.
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  Speaker 1: It's very simple. You lose, and we've done that. We
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  Speaker 1: can't do that. And of the best defenses want to
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  Speaker 1: get offense, take care of the darn ball, get first down,
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  Speaker 1: sustained the drives. And that's how you play great defense,
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  Speaker 1: especially Odell Beckham, Cup and Jefferson and h Stafford and
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  Speaker 1: I can go on and on and on. Get him
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  Speaker 1: off the darn field. And when they're off the field,
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  Speaker 1: you can regroup on defense to throw our defense back
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  Speaker 1: out there. That's that's not you know that, that's not.
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  Speaker 1: You can blame the defense all you want. And defense
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  Speaker 1: certainly didn't play well enough, especially in the second half,
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  Speaker 1: but you're looking at at halftime that score should have been, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: take away the ten freebees. You know, you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: a seven seven game, ten seven game on the defense.
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  Speaker 1: Over the last four games heaven and early in the season,
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  Speaker 1: they're really good against the run. The last four games
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  Speaker 1: maybe not as well. Uh the numbers four games, five
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  Speaker 1: and seventy five yard dressing allowing about four point six
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  Speaker 1: yards to carry. That was really a stat of power
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  Speaker 1: with this defense early on Urban was the yards per
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  Speaker 1: rush allowed. And that's kind of falling off a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: How do you get back to being dominant in that category?
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  Speaker 1: To give your defense even though it's you know, We're
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  Speaker 1: talking about both sides of the ball here, but to
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  Speaker 1: give the defense it's best chance. Yeah, that's if it's
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  Speaker 1: a simple you know, I know that's a question that's
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  Speaker 1: going to be addressed because our defense is built to
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  Speaker 1: stop the run. And Davon Hamilton's was out this game
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  Speaker 1: and J two Felly got inter actually played decent, but
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  Speaker 1: being stout against the round, we kind of key for
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  Speaker 1: be careful. Not in Malcolm Brown getting war down. Just
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  Speaker 1: once again, you're just looking at how many quality reps
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  Speaker 1: are you on the field, And when the offense is
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  Speaker 1: not performing and defense gets war out, it's all a
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  Speaker 1: team effort. We're all in this together, and so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the defense has to play much better and we gotta
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  Speaker 1: be better against the run. But for some reason, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm being sarcastic, when the offense has a four team
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  Speaker 1: play drive, usually the defense firms up because they're arrested
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  Speaker 1: and ready to go out in the field and go play.
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  Speaker 1: When they come off the field next snap they're on
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  Speaker 1: the field, that's not good one of the guys that
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to say that everything is bad,
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  Speaker 1: because not everything is Number ninety one to want smooth,
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  Speaker 1: I think continues to play exceptionally well Urban. I love
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  Speaker 1: his energy, his tenacity, and his never say die attitude.
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  Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter whether it's the first snap of
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  Speaker 1: the game or the last snap of the game. I
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  Speaker 1: love the way he plays. Yeah, that's uh. You want
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  Speaker 1: a locker room of elite warrior competitors. Every great player,
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  Speaker 1: every great player, and I've been blessed to be around
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  Speaker 1: some of the greatest have ever played the game. Um
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  Speaker 1: when the college level and as they continue in their
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  Speaker 1: NFL journey. The single common characteristic of all of as
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  Speaker 1: the lead competitor, and they just don't you know, you
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  Speaker 1: don't just turn off your phone. It's one of those things.
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  Speaker 1: You compete at everything you do. And I love Spoot
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  Speaker 1: for that. Rudy Ford another one of those guys that
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  Speaker 1: early in the season. He came here in free agency
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  Speaker 1: mainly as a special team's contributor. He's jumped in there
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  Speaker 1: on defense and his stat line was nice on Sunday
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  Speaker 1: as well. Tackle for loss, hit the quarterback at that
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  Speaker 1: half a sack was smooth, and he's continued to see
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  Speaker 1: him flash on defense. Yeah, you're two of my favorite players.
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  Speaker 1: As they just show up. I can what is today, Tuesday, Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: I know what Smooth is gonna like. I can see
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  Speaker 1: his face already. He's gonna come out through the great demeanor.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna get his extra lifting during the week. He's
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  Speaker 1: over two hundred seventy some pounds and stronger than he's
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  Speaker 1: ever been. Think about that for a minute. We're talking
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  Speaker 1: about we're in December right now. He's stronger than he's
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  Speaker 1: ever been. And I know what he's gonna do tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be the same Wednesday that I You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's consistency that you need out of a player
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  Speaker 1: and a team. Rudy Ford will come in and and
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  Speaker 1: the same thing. They'll take care of his body tonight,
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  Speaker 1: but usually gets an ice bath and all that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff later in the day after he's already worked out,
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  Speaker 1: and he'll come in tomorrow and be one of the
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  Speaker 1: fastest players on the field with the great attitude. Work
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  Speaker 1: in his tail off and Rudy had a tough play
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  Speaker 1: on that long play to Cooper Cup. And this was
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  Speaker 1: the first opportunity to be able to see Cooper Cup
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  Speaker 1: up close and personal. What a great receiver he is. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's uh, you know, for the you know. Uh, and
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  Speaker 1: Rudy took his eyes off for a minute, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: great effort to catch him down the field, but the
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  Speaker 1: damage has already done. But Cooper Cup and uh, he's
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  Speaker 1: there's a reason why he's one of the best in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, you know. And I don't I've never coached him,
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  Speaker 1: but I've heard about him. He's just a guy that
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  Speaker 1: never shuts it off. He's just a junkie, understands the game,
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  Speaker 1: understands space, understands leverage, and that really does a great job.
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  Speaker 1: Chat Griffin status moving ahead, it's positive for this week.
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  Speaker 1: It should be a go good news. Let's come back
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  Speaker 1: in a moment and we will talk about this week.
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  Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans coming up in week fourteen. This is
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: the Urban Meyers Show on Jaguars Radio. Wow, Welcome Back.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: The Urban Meyers Show continues along the Jaguars Radio Network.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaguars Game Day Broadcaster presented by Vice Star
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Credit Union j P Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman and head coach
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Urban Meyer on The Urban Meyers Show and the Jaguars
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: headed up to Nashville, Tennessee Music City, USA. It's been
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: a house of horrors over the history, at least the
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Jaguars trying to buck that trend this week Urban against
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: the team you've already seen once, Tennessee Titans. But it's
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: a much different feeling Tennessee team now Henry's out. Top
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: three receivers are gone, but they're still figuring out a
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: way to to get some football games. One up there
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  Speaker 1: under Mike Rebel. Yeah, they got a great culture, you know,
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  Speaker 1: one that I studied a little bit in the offseason
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: and uh a year ago, not this past year obviously,
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  Speaker 1: but um uh Julio Jones might come back this week.
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  Speaker 1: Uh you know his his I R I believe he
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: comes off and he's uh but the horse isn't there.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, you watch him un the ball.
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  Speaker 1: They're still running the ball really, really effectively. They got
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: one of the best lines in the NFL and uh
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Tannehill is very efficient and uh uh but to make
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: a mistake, I mean with two Julio and the other
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: receivers aren't there that that's tough on them and they
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: struggle a little bit, but they're still a very good team. Yeah,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: the Julio Jones and A J. Brown, I mean are
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: legitimate top end receiver of threats and Tanny Hill is
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: a guy that is not afraid to throw those balls,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: and so not having that, do you do you play
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: a team like this differently when they have those guys
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: versus when they don't. Yeah, I when we got ready
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  Speaker 1: for him. That was the first time I actually coached
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: against Derrick Henry in college. And when you have a
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: player like that, it's it's you have to you know that.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: That's what we all strive to have to be is
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: that legitimate threats all over the field. Because okay, let's
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: take can you take away uh Derrick Henry? Of course
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: you can. You know you surely you put two people
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: in the box you can't block and I mean, he's
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: still gonna get his yards because he's a great player,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: but certainly you can stop him. In the second half.
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  Speaker 1: Last last time we Playtom we held up a two
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  Speaker 1: point of yards per carry um. But can you stop
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: him and those other three weapons that they have? You know,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: that's that's how you win Super Bowls. No, it's hard,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: really hard, you know, to do that. So this we're
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: still in the game planning stages, but the rest assured,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: now this is a very good team. This is a
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: team that all starts up on as far as their offense,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: it starts up front, and they are very good. Yeah,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: it's almost a game of bullyball. I mean that's where
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: it's been, I think since the rivalry has existed. It's
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: the team that's more physical, the team that's willing to
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: be smash mouth and can execute smash mouth football, or
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: the team that wins. It's interesting, Jeff. That's kind of
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the way it's been as long as I've been alive
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: in this game of football. And uh uh, this rivalry,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I'm new to it, but the rivalries I've been a
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: part of. The team that runs the ball, the best,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: stops the runs, the most physical upfront, you're walking away
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: with a win. By the way, speaking of smash mouth,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: did you did you do you ever get a chance
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: to watch Monday night football? And did you see that
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: the Patriots ended up winning last night and they only
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: threw the ball three times? Have you ever had a
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: game offensively in college or wherever you've been where you've
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: only thrown the ball three times? I did. We actually
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: played that when I was at Utah. Alex smissed my quarterback.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: We played Provo in provo when there was this I
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: mean it was a two ft of stone and they
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: had the shovels, you know, between timeouts and everything out
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: on the field, and I ran Alex Smith nine times
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  Speaker 1: in that game and we wanted three to zero. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was you know, I watched some of it last night.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously I got other issues to worry about, but uh,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: that was a tough game to watch. What you did,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: you get your guys wear snowshoes for that game? How
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: bad was it? Was it? Like? Was it like accumulation
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: during the game? Yeah, they had the shovels, you know,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the yard markers yard line, so they were going. And
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: all I know is that at the end of the
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: we kicked the field on a second quarter before we
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: got too bad, and then you couldn't. I mean it
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: was a matter of who punted last Holy Award to remember,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: that's for sure. Utah and b y U head coach
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Urban Meyer with us. So all right, moving ahead here
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: five games ago. You know, this is that time of
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: year where you can kind of see the light at
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the end of the season for a lot of guys.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: But how do you keep the coach staff, the players
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: focused on the task at hand. Week, the week, five
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: games to go before the offseason. Well, I had a
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: good meeting with our players about this is all about value.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: You know, your professionals, This is the way you earn
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: a living. And everything on tape counts. And and uh,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: you know I always use the term no regrets. Man.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Let's you've got five games left. Increase your value. And
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: how do you increase your value? Play great? And by
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: the way, if we all play great, we have a
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: good chance of winning games. Same with coaching staffs. Increase
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: your value, make your guys well, make your guys great.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: And uh, I don't look at it the light of
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: the day on a tonne. I look at this opportunity
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: to go in some darn games and gets some momentum.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: You know, life is really good. When we won two
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: out of three, remember, you know, just bounce around the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: hallways driving home, co wait to get up in the morning.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: It sucks the other way. So let's let's let's get
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: back to that. The food tastes better, the air smells better,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: everything's better when you win games. Urban, thanks for the time.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: As always, we'll talk to you soon. Head coachrebord Meyer
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: with us back with Moreri's The Urban Meyer Show on
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars Radio Network. Welcome back, It's the Urban Meyers
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. J P. Shadrick, Jeff
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Vlagerman and head Joe German Meyer joins us in the
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: first half hour each and every Tuesday afternoon. Well, um,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: a lot to unpack there. Of course, as we head
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: into week fourteen, the talk of the town is the
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: running back stuff this week? Would you make of Urbans thoughts? Well,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I would like, there's there's so much to it,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: you know, and and um, the most important thing is
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: that they've got to get this thing kind of ironed out.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is that James is
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: a very respected player and if if he is being
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: perceived as not being treated properly, then I think that
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: that I think that I can permeate it in the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: locker room elsewhere, and that would be a big problem
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: for for any organization. And James is a good football player,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: and they need to find a way to get him
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: back healthy and getting him productive for this offense because
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: they need him, I mean right now, they need him
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: more than anything. I mean, that's the part that uh
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: that has been consistent all year long is that when
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: James Robinson is healthy, he's a great back. I'm not
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: talking a good back now, he's a great back. He's
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: right there at the top of the league and rushing
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: earlier in the season, and and they're hanging with Henry
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: and those guys. Look here, here's the only thing. Think
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: back the last year when when this organization had so
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: much respect for James Robinson that they let Leonard Fournette
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: go without seeing James Robinson perform in a preseason game,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: without seeing James Robinson perform at all in any type
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: of competitive situation, and then all he did was have
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: a phenomenal year. You just I just hope that this
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: staff respects James Robinson as much as he is deserving
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: because he is a very good football player. It was
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: good to hear them at least talk about it today.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, they met with each other there and went
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: through some things, and you know, that's that's a good
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I just got to talk about community. I still want
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: my head coach to be aware of whether or not
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: he's in the game. Yeah, you know, I want Urban
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Meyer to to be aware of that, because I mean,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: you're the head coach and he's got to have an
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: awareness for that end of the game. Great opportunity, take
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: him out, don't put him back in to have him
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was a great opportunity. Okay, well, look
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: if he's not gonna play the bulk of the game,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: because you know, he gets punished for Carrie and I
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: still don't quite understand that concept. We're not talking about
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: a guy who's had a fumbling problem in his career.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: That why why would he be punished? Well, don't stick
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: him in at the end of the game and then
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: have him, you know, and then say, well, you know,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: we're we gotta get him healthy. It just it doesn't
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: quite work. But nonetheless, you know, hopefully everything is moving
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: forward because that's where you need to be better. Because
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans our first place in the division and they've
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: lost a couple of games back to back, but it's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: still a team that can run the ball even without
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. They did it last week and a losing effort.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Two different guys went over a hundred yards last week
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: on the ground, and that's the challenge ahead. Jacks have
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: it one up there since, so you gotta figure out
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: a way to hang with this team this week. I'm
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: still the belief that the Tennessee Titans are beatable. I mean,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: this is not the Tennessee Titans that was just steamrolling
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: opponents on their way to be in the best team
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: in the NFC, because that's what they were a few
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: weeks ago. And then all of a sudden, you you
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: don't have Derrick Henry for a couple of games, and
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: it starts to show. And then you don't have your
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: your big time receivers available in the game and it shows.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: So I don't think the Tennessee Titans are what they
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: were anywhere close to being are what they were earlier
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: in the year. So do you have a chance, maybe,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: but you gotta get your offense fixed. I mean right now,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: this Jaguars offense, I mean they I mean that the
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the NFL average, I think going in the last week's
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: game was about twenty three points scored a game per team,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: and the Jaguars in the last six games obviously significantly
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: off of that. They're averaging in less than eleven yards
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: a game or eleven points a game. So I mean,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: you're you're talking about twelve points a game off what
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the league average had been. Yeah, and a defense that's
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: not helping them out by giving them more opportunities with
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: takeaways because the defense, you know, and and Urban had
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: talked a little bit about putting some of the blame
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: on the offense for the defensive what was, well, yeah,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: but the defense also needs to take care of their
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: own responsibility, which is stopping the run, which they're not
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: doing a very good job of lately, and also taking
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the ball away, which they haven't done a very good
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: job of that all season. There's six takeaways, ye last
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: by by a long ways, by a long way. So
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: and then that when I refer to the the point
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: turnover differential, I mean that's real. First of all, the
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: defense has done a pretty good job of limiting the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: opponents scoring on the one giveaways that the offense has
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: had not a bad job. But the Jaguars off of
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the six defensive takeaways have only scored three points. And
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: so when you're looking at a minus fifty five turnover
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: point differential, you're not gonna win. I mean, that's that's
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: if you had to have or if you had to
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: fulfill one category in any statistical category in a football
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: game to give you the best chance to win that's it.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: That's that's the category you need to have success in
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and and this team is not winning it. We'll come
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: back in just a moment and dig deeper into the
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: offensive performance logs is what we'll do. We're gonna do
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: a deep dive. We are when we return. This is
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the Urban Meyers Show on Jaguars Radio. Wow, Welcome back.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: The Urban Meyer Show continues along the Jaguars Radio Network.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: JP Shatrick with Jeff Lockerman. Head coach. Urban Meyer joins
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: us in the first half hour every Tuesday at five o'clock.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: We thank Urban for his time today has always and
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: welcome back to the Agars Show. The Jaguars faced the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans coming up in week fourteen. We'll get to
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: that a little deeper. Coming up. This offense though when
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: we touched on it the last six weeks, less than
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: eleven points per game. They were held under two hundred
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: yards this past week against the Los Angeles Rams, the
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: offensive line had a couple of guys banged up that
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: had to leave the game. Lender and BArch hearing Urban say,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: it sounds pretty positive for their return this week, which
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: is good news, but it starts there. How's the offensive
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: line playing for you. There's a whole logs well not
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: good enough. Seriously, I mean you if you're if you're
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: putting out eleven points a game, not even eleven points
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: a game, your your offensive line's not playing well enough,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: and they're not doing a good enough job in the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: run game, they're not doing a good enough job in protection.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: They've got to be better as a whole. But it's
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: not one guy or anything. It's kind of one of
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: those things where it's, you know, we talk about defensive responsibility,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: stopping the run, it's you know, it's it's it's like, okay,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: well you got you know, tackle gives up a pressure
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and then a guard gives up a pressure. You've got
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: to be more consistent. An offensive line is probably one
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: of the most thankless jobs that there is on the planet, seriously,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: because you can have and Tony and I've laughed about
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: this over the years, that an offensive lineman can have
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Essentially you're average in about sixty five plays a game,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and you can have sixty two plays that are just
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I mean fantastic, shutting people down, I mean pancake and
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: you know, doing a whole nine yards, but you give
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: up three bad plays and it could cost you a game.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: That's how that's how important offensive line play, in the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: consistency of offensive line play is. And I thought it
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: was interesting in the game that they try and they
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: have been doing a little bit of this half roll
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff with Trevor and it's not like a
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: true bootleg. They are running bootlegs, but it's like a
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: half roll. Is it Is that a new wrinkle or no,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: they've been doing it. They've been doing it. It's where
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: it's almost where instead of Trevor dropping straight back behind center,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: he almost kind of half rolls and so he's setting
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: up almost behind the tackle on one side and then
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the line kind of moves with him. It's very challenging
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: for the offensive line sometimes to do that. If you
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: have great play action kind of with it, then it's
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: no problem. But what do you out to have before
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: you have play action or on the football exactly? So,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: if you're running a play like that on second and eight,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: the defense is not buying it. They're not buying it.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: You can sell it all you want, but on second
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: and eight and you're down by fourteen, you're not getting that.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're just they're they're gonna be pinning their
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: ears back and focusing on the quarterback. And I think
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that's been part of the problem. A couple of things.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: One is that you're not running the ball effectively, and
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: then then also you're calling it on second and eight.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a that's really a play call more
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: for like second and three, second and four in my opinion,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of twofold there, and that you're not
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: gonna and then special also the score if you're down
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: by twenty, right, they're not buying the play action. They're
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: gonna be rushing the passer. So it's one of those
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: things where the offensive line is, uh, we we thought
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: and and I think everybody was hopeful that they would
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: take another step up this year, and I think that
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: more moments they've had good moments, but overall they have
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: not taken a step up this year. Trevor Lawrence's play
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: obviously needs to help around him. My biggest contain, Yeah,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: and that's that's the number one priority down the stretch
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: here is seeing if he can kind of get on
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: track here and and improves the final five weeks move along.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: But um, it has not trended that way. Lately unfortunately.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: That's that's probably my biggest concern is where where's Trevor
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: at in his development? Because I mean, you knew that
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: this year was about Trevor's development. I mean the wins
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: and losses we took when we said this, it's it's
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: not so much the wins and losses that you want
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: to start to see improvement in steady improvement with your
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: young quarterback. And right now we're not. We're not seeing that.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: And it's and look, it's hard to see it when
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the reality is you continue to lose. Sometimes you can
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: see it when you're losing. But I'm looking hard, and
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I think everybody else is looking hard and trying to
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: find some positives in the in the course of losing
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: that the development is starting to occur. And and I
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: think there's no question that the experience is gonna pay
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: huge dividends for him in the future. But you want
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: to start to see the things that you can touch,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: the things that you can see plainly with your untrained eye,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: performance wise, accuracy wise, the numbers at the end of
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: a game, the efficiency, the accuracy, all those things. Trevor
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: was at passer at Clemson. He's a fifty eight percent
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: passer now. And I understand that the college game is different,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: totally understand that, but you don't expect that kind of
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: a drop off. I mean, you know that it's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen. It's a difficult first year, but wown off.
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  Speaker 1: And and that's without leven points off. And that's without
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  Speaker 1: much deep down the field either. It's not like they're
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  Speaker 1: pushing the bold. And I that's also a thing that
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious about, is that, Okay, well you lost DJ.
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  Speaker 1: Well you had other guys that could run, right, I
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: mean Ken Tavon Austin. Is he fast? Yeah, he supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be. You had the guy that you got from
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  Speaker 1: who was with the Chargers last year, Johnson, that you
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  Speaker 1: he was fast in a straight line. We were we
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  Speaker 1: were all told he was fast. But when he was active,
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  Speaker 1: did you see him run fast vertically? No? No, I
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  Speaker 1: mean I didn't see it. So I think the question
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  Speaker 1: is is that sometimes even though you don't have the
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  Speaker 1: guys that maybe you intended to roll out. When I
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: say rollout, get him out there on the field and
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  Speaker 1: have him run deep, you gotta find a way to
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  Speaker 1: continue to have that aspect to your game because if
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: you don't have that aspect of your game, then you're
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  Speaker 1: essentially condensing the field for the quarter back and for
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the defense, and it makes it harder for the quarterback.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: The quarterback needs to have as much space as he
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  Speaker 1: possibly can. If you have a vertical element to your offense,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you create more space and you create more ground that
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  Speaker 1: a defense has to cover. If you're not running guys
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  Speaker 1: deep occasionally or often, then you're not making the field.
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  Speaker 1: Al Davis said it beautifully. He said, you've got to
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  Speaker 1: You've got to run and have white wide receivers that
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  Speaker 1: run fast, that run deep. I mean that was when
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: he used to have his new coaches come in, he
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: would essentially sit them down and tell them. Because Als
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  Speaker 1: in experienced coach, not just an owner. He knew the
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  Speaker 1: importance of having a vertical element to a game. Even
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners under Bill Walsh had a
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: had a speed element to their game. Was it all
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: the time? No, because it was a controlled passing attack.
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  Speaker 1: But think about John Taylor and how many deep balls
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: he caught from John John Montane. So they had a
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  Speaker 1: vertical element as well. And right now, I'm not I
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  Speaker 1: don't see a big vertical element to this Jaguars offense.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: We'll return and touch on the Jags defense and special
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: teams good and bad this past week. Claud's in moments. Well, yeah,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: well we'll give you a couple of moments to ponder
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  Speaker 1: on that. This is I didn't see a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of good. Was the game as a whole a little bit?
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  Speaker 1: So I want you to point the good out to
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: me when we come back. It's just a moment. It's
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: the Urban Meyers Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. Welcome back.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: The Urban Meyers Show continues, j P. Shadrick, Jeff Lockerman,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: head go, Jevi Meyer in the first half hour each
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and every Tuesday at five o'clock youo on the Jaguars
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Radio Network. Glad you're along with us. Today. The Jaguars
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: fell to the Rams, of course, this past Sunday, thirty
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: seven to seven. They're onto the Titans. Next week, the
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: first place team in the ANFC South will face off
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: in Nashville, Tennessee. And week number four team Quick to Go.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Do you think the Rams are a super Bowl team?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: It's a good one. The the last three weeks before
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: they did not play so well. Um no, I don't.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of interesting. I don't think so. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see them. I don't see them
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  Speaker 1: beating Tampa Bay. No, I don't either. And I just said.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: The one reason I say that is that when they
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: people talk about the star power of the Rams, you
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: could try to compare them to so many other top
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: teams in the NFC, and and do they have players
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: across the board I'm comparing to Tampa. I mean, Tampa's
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: got thet They got players at many different positions that
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: are really good. And Rams have a couple on offense,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: couple on defense that get all the attention. Arizona Arizona
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: tennant too are Arizona Green Bay nine and three. Aaron
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Rodgers angry at the world. That's not a good thing
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: for the world is up with him and I don't know,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: but there you go. He was angry at the world.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Dallas he's motivated, as another way to say that takes
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of himself. And he's pretty good though at
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Dallas is eight and four. I mean, they could be
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: in the hunt if they can sustain some things. You
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: never know, they get hot. I mean that's if if
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Dallas gets their running game going was Zeke Elliott. Then
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: you're and Dak Prescott is rolling. They play and they
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: got they just got uh DeMarcus Lawrence back on defense,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: they if they could get rolling, they could be scary.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Now they could and the last year they were a
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: complete the bockle. I mean, just waiting to see what
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: word you were going to choose for that. Yeah, I
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't going to use any bad words that we can
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: see the look it was bad. I mean people were thinking, man,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: this new head coach that we got, what what are
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: we doing? Number one thing the Jaguars defense can do
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: better right now? Defensively, they got to stop the run.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, that's you know, we said this
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: before at the beginning of the year that do they
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: have the horses to play great past defense? They don't.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: They've got to get enticing. Campbell's helping, you know that
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: he's gotten better, but they have to get more top
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: end players that can impact the passing game. We you know,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: not to sound cliche is, but we we know this
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: is a passing league and it's a league that's gotta
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: you gotta have guys that can affect it affect the
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: passing game. And right now they don't have enough that
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: can do that so much so that they had to
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: kind of change their scheme at the almost say midpoint
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: of the season. But early in the season they started
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: to discover that, look, we can't play man coverage very effectively.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: We have to convert more to his own. So now
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: they're playing more zone. So to be where you want
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: to be, which is, okay, let's be a multiple tight
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: D defense. We play multiple fronts, we play multiple coverages.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Then you need to get the talent that's going to
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: allow you to do some of that, and you gotta
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: get you gotta get another pass rusher. You gotta get
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: another guy that can cover. You, gotta find some type
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: of guy, some people that can take the ball away.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: You know. Do you have some of those guys on
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: the roster and they're just not making an impact because
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: they're young, maybe, but right now you're not seeing a
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: lot of that, you know. And and you look at
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: at this the draft class that the Jaguars have had,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: and you you added, you had a lot of draft picks,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: and are you seeing the impact from the draft class
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: on this on this football team this year? You're not so?
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: And I'm a little patient with that. And the reason
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I say that is how many draft classes have we
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: had in the past where we've gotten overly excited about
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: in the first year and then all of a sudden
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: in years three and four, they're not even anywhere close
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: to being where we thought it would be. For example,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: the first draft class the Dave called Wall had with
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Luke jokel and Jonathan Cyprian Sanders A Sanders, I mean,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: we're thinking, yeah, the corner from yukon um yess and
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: they all played a significant role in and we were thinking,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: this is a really good draft class. Denard Robinson was
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: in that draft, which he's still a part of the organization.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: But my point is is that we probably should have
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: given ourselves a speeding ticket there because we were quick
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: to say excellent draft, excellent draft, because but then a
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: few years later it really wasn't an excellent draft. To
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: really find out. Joke was out of the league, Jonathan
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Cyprian was a journeyman safety at best, Dwayne Grotts couldn't
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: even hold a starting job. A Sanders was out of
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: the league, and it knows what it is. So that's
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: why I when I say that they haven't gotten a
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: contribution from this draft class. I'm also quick to point
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: out that because I'm also saying, hey, look, you typically
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: have to wait a couple of years to find out
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: the impact of the draft class. Hopefully this draft class
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: can start to contribute, because right now they're not. When
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: we return that special Teams thought, and then some final
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: thoughts looking ahead to Tennessee. It's the Urban Meyers Show
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: on Jaguars Radio. Welcome back. Final moments of the Urban
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Meyers Show that Jack's head coach joins us in the
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: first half hour every week. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Blagaman,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: the Special teams thought. They give up a sixty five
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: yard kickoff return. That's bad, not good on the opening
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: kickoff of the game. Yeah, not what you want to do.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: And and I will tell you watching some of the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: other uh kickoff situation or the other kickoff situation that
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: they had, and they had, they could have had a
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: couple of other issues there that you know, when when
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: you imagine kickoff coverage is like a garden rake Okay, okay, seriously,
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  Speaker 1: and if what happens, if you have one time that's
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: missing out of that garden, those leaves stay there exactly
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and so that's where the kick return if he finds it,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it can be he's out the gate.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: And with the Jaguars kickoff coverage on that particular play,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: you always have leverage. So think of the returner. He
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: always has to be in the middle of all those times. Okay,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: so you have the kicker, you don't count him, so
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: you've got five times and then five times on the
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: other side of the returner. The Jaguars actually got overlapped
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and so they essentially lost their leverage on that play.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: And then out the gate he goes. Unfortunately, you had
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: a safety that was there in a situation where you
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: could make sure that he didn't go the distance. But
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a very disciplined kickoff coverage unit. They were
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: out of their lanes. Logan Cook five punts average forty
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: nine point four. Player of the game was the net
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: as well, all five inside the twenty and he is
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: among the league leaders in UH net punting average, third
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: in the league. Now, he's he's great when he when
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: he knows that it's punt team and he gets on
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: the field. That's step one. Yes, yes, it is just
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: giving him a hard time, But look it's it's it's
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: never good when you're punter. Is the player of the game, Okay,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I know that you and Fred and Mike do a
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: player of the game past game? Who was It was him?
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: It was literally him. I didn't know that because I
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: didn't have a chance. That's not good. So it happens
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: when you lose by thirty and only score seven. Well,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: and I can tell you, Jackie, you know, I always
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: have my little book and I always okay, And this
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: color coded. What colors do you see? The predominant color
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: A lot of yellow, of yellow. Blue would be the Jaguas.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: And they're was essentially besides besides just their possession being blue,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: there was one positive field position and two positive plays
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: on the one coin drop. Other than that nothing alright, Well,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: they've got a week to figure it out. They're going
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: to Tennessee this week to face the Titans. Thanks for
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: our entire crew for Jeff Logerman and head coach Urban Meyer,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: and I'm J. P. Shadrick. This is the Urban Meyers
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.