Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Tamar Braxton Talks 'Heartbreak Retrograde,' Healing, Relationship With Sisters, Greif; Traci + More
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Every day, Breakfast Club.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Morning.
- 0:07Speaker 3: Everybody is d j Envy, just hilarious, Charlamage the guy.
- 0:11Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club Law and the Roses here
- 0:13Speaker 3: as well. We got a special guest in the buildings
- 0:15Speaker 3: in a new album, Heartbreak. Heartbreak Retrograde is out right now,
- 0:19Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Tamar Braxton, welcome.
- 0:22Speaker 4: Back, Hey friends, you look good.
- 0:35Speaker 1: How you doing the kids? Kids? I want great? It
- 0:40Speaker 1: is great.
- 0:40Speaker 5: Yeah, he's on break and so you know I can't
- 0:42Speaker 5: even reach him.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Not mad at you. You got a lot going on
- 0:47Speaker 1: new albums. I'm going positivity.
- 0:49Speaker 6: This is great break retro grade. Yes, what does retrograde
- 0:52Speaker 6: mean to you? Like emotionally, well, you know, like.
- 0:57Speaker 5: Mercury retro grade. And so it's like a long period
- 1:00Speaker 5: of time where like things are just like not adding up,
- 1:03Speaker 5: not making sense, where you just like feel like you're
- 1:06Speaker 5: not yourself. And I chose to take it as something
- 1:10Speaker 5: that is positive instead of a negative. This is a
- 1:13Speaker 5: time where I can evolve, I can be myself and
- 1:16Speaker 5: figure out things.
- 1:17Speaker 1: That will best suit me in the future.
- 1:20Speaker 5: And I feel like I want to say this, you know,
- 1:23Speaker 5: heartbag retrograde was born here. Really the less conversation that
- 1:27Speaker 5: we had about cheating. So Heartbreak Retrograde is about a
- 1:33Speaker 5: woman who cheats on her spouse and breaks her own
- 1:38Speaker 5: heart by breaking his heart.
- 1:40Speaker 1: But you talked about it, you heard about it.
- 1:43Speaker 6: Yeah, so are these old wounds resurfacing? Are you finally
- 1:47Speaker 6: releasing it?
- 1:47Speaker 1: I'm releasing it, you know.
- 1:49Speaker 5: And I couldn't figure out Remember, I was still feeling
- 1:52Speaker 5: bad about it.
- 1:53Speaker 7: I couldn't talk about it.
- 1:54Speaker 5: I couldn't figure out how to break it. And you know,
- 1:57Speaker 5: putting together this project along with the movie was very
- 2:00Speaker 5: therapeutic for me, and so I'm just so grateful about it.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Do you have a call that Xcent and have that conversation?
- 2:06Speaker 1: I did. How did that go? Well? Okay?
- 2:11Speaker 5: So we went out to lunch and I explained to
- 2:15Speaker 5: him that this was about that portion of the relationship
- 2:19Speaker 5: and he appreciated that. But there were some things about
- 2:23Speaker 5: the movie that he didn't like.
- 2:25Speaker 2: So you know what's so good about this? I don't know.
- 2:27Speaker 6: You know, twenty twenty five is the year of the snake,
- 2:29Speaker 6: So we got like what fourteen days left to you know,
- 2:33Speaker 6: shed old habits and embrace personal growth just like a
- 2:37Speaker 6: shape a snake shdd you skin?
- 2:39Speaker 2: Yes, But this album, you know, dine it, he'll.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Me, And I believe like it's sent a lot of
- 2:43Speaker 1: people like, oh my god.
- 2:44Speaker 5: I've listened to it, and I feel like this is
- 2:46Speaker 5: the medicine that I needed to get over my heartbreak retrograde.
- 2:50Speaker 1: It wasn't he like you said he didn't like parts
- 2:52Speaker 1: of it? What didn't he like?
- 2:54Speaker 5: I think that it was a lot of ego, you
- 2:56Speaker 5: know what I mean, because it was based on a
- 2:58Speaker 5: true story. It wasn't everything that happened been right, and
- 3:01Speaker 5: so he was just you know, I think it's hard
- 3:05Speaker 5: to see your ex or somebody that you once cared
- 3:08Speaker 5: about or care about and like those positions with someone else,
- 3:11Speaker 5: because I'm sure it brought him back to that moment feelings.
- 3:14Speaker 3: When y'all had that dinner, did y'all read did anything
- 3:17Speaker 3: like sparks pop off and say let's try this again?
- 3:19Speaker 3: Since we're being so open.
- 3:20Speaker 5: Or not, I don't think that person is healed in
- 3:24Speaker 5: that capacity for that well.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Not necessarily. It's a long story, I tell y'all off camera.
- 3:32Speaker 5: Because women have that conversation men do exactly, and I
- 3:36Speaker 5: think it's time to have that conversation. I think we
- 3:38Speaker 5: need to normalize that it's both of us. That's not
- 3:41Speaker 5: just men, you know, it's it's women too, because just
- 3:45Speaker 5: like the same reasons why you know a man will
- 3:47Speaker 5: cheat is because you know things are not all the
- 3:49Speaker 5: way together at home, or things all the way together
- 3:51Speaker 5: with themselves. It's the same thing women go through, the
- 3:54Speaker 5: same thing. Explain, black men don't cheat?
- 4:02Speaker 1: What did they do?
- 4:03Speaker 5: It's another word for it us.
- 4:04Speaker 2: No black men, comma don't cheat, like I don't want
- 4:06Speaker 2: black men to.
- 4:07Speaker 1: We don't want black men to cheat.
- 4:08Speaker 8: However, thank you, Bill, Tamar. I was wondering if the
- 4:11Speaker 8: ex you were referring to is in the movie.
- 4:14Speaker 1: You tried it?
- 4:15Speaker 5: No, okay, wondering because absolutely not. All right, y'all, y'all
- 4:21Speaker 5: don't believe that. I wasn't talking about that because you
- 4:25Speaker 5: want to bring the ship up, because I know y'all
- 4:26Speaker 5: can't wait so like, but let's just talk about common sense.
- 4:30Speaker 5: And first of all, we've been known each other a
- 4:32Speaker 5: long time. Let's can we stop that. We can we
- 4:35Speaker 5: dead that now, okay, because I'm just I'm just gonna
- 4:38Speaker 5: be honest about that. Has never been a man who
- 4:40Speaker 5: has experienced tamor who didn't want to marry me, and
- 4:43Speaker 5: so if that was the case, he would be over here.
- 4:46Speaker 5: Everybody cliar, Now let's.
- 4:48Speaker 8: Move on, get them together, Lauren, I'm like, who I
- 4:54Speaker 8: was talking about Vince because he's in the theship advice?
- 5:00Speaker 8: Yeah he is, he is, But I didn't know if
- 5:02Speaker 8: The reason why I asked that is because because he's
- 5:04Speaker 8: in the your visual giving you relationship advice, and just
- 5:08Speaker 8: people seeing him on screen again, we always just wonder,
- 5:11Speaker 8: you know, where the relationship is, like what that looks like.
- 5:13Speaker 8: So I didn't know if that was the person you
- 5:14Speaker 8: had to sit down.
- 5:15Speaker 5: That's cousin, and that's where that stops, cousin.
- 5:23Speaker 7: So when you set to that point, you're in a
- 5:25Speaker 7: good place.
- 5:27Speaker 1: He's a family member and.
- 5:28Speaker 5: That's that on that are you watch the video with Ben,
- 5:31Speaker 5: I saw him hand taking pictures, you know, Vince being.
- 5:34Speaker 6: The pictures they was killing.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Was sitting in the background like they go, Vince back
- 5:40Speaker 2: there with his mouth over.
- 5:45Speaker 1: We love it.
- 5:46Speaker 2: With this album about reliving heartbreak or reclaiming your.
- 5:49Speaker 5: Power from it, it was about taking accountability, you know,
- 5:52Speaker 5: and being responsible for someone's hurt that I caused. And
- 5:58Speaker 5: like I said, when I was here, I felt really bad.
- 5:59Speaker 5: That's feel when it like zoned in on me, like, wow,
- 6:02Speaker 5: I really did hurt a person that bad, and I'm
- 6:04Speaker 5: you know, I'm really sorry for that. And I hope
- 6:06Speaker 5: that that person doesn't take that into you know, their future.
- 6:09Speaker 5: I hope it doesn't stifle their growth and like really
- 6:11Speaker 5: truly finding love.
- 6:12Speaker 3: Was he surprised when you called to have dinner and
- 6:14Speaker 3: talk about it, because a lot of times they say
- 6:16Speaker 3: women don't apologize, So was he shocked and surprise?
- 6:19Speaker 6: Hmmm?
- 6:20Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I can't. I don't know
- 6:21Speaker 1: if I can answer that.
- 6:23Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 6:24Speaker 6: I also don't think men cheap because you said that earlier.
- 6:26Speaker 6: But I don't think men cheap because there's something.
- 6:27Speaker 2: Wrong at home.
- 6:29Speaker 1: I do. I think there's something that's missing.
- 6:32Speaker 2: I think it's something missing within you as a name.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Agree you think so? You think it's all about the man.
- 6:37Speaker 5: Has nothing to do with the women, it's nothing to
- 6:38Speaker 5: do with the connection with another person.
- 6:40Speaker 3: I think every situation is different. But I think a
- 6:41Speaker 3: lot of times man trying to feed his ego, you
- 6:44Speaker 3: know what I mean? And I think that's the main
- 6:45Speaker 3: I think men need to grow up at times, and
- 6:47Speaker 3: I don't think they've got to the place where they
- 6:49Speaker 3: understand what the word love really means, what it really is.
- 6:52Speaker 6: Because you don't really love yourself correct and it's like,
- 6:53Speaker 6: you know, it's like pouring water into a cup that
- 6:56Speaker 6: ain't got no bottom. So you just constantly think he's
- 6:58Speaker 6: feeling it's feeling, it's feeling it. That's why most of
- 7:00Speaker 6: the time you feel very empty after you you know.
- 7:04Speaker 5: But what if you can't reach that other person, what
- 7:06Speaker 5: if you can't reach your partner.
- 7:07Speaker 2: That's a different circumstances.
- 7:09Speaker 6: I'm not saying that there can't be times when you
- 7:11Speaker 6: know it's problems at home, but it's really the guy, Well, I.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Learned something today. I didn't know that. Okay, how did.
- 7:18Speaker 8: You feel like on the other side, Like did you
- 7:20Speaker 8: feel like it was something missing or did you like,
- 7:22Speaker 8: was there like some self searching you had to do
- 7:25Speaker 8: when you decided.
- 7:26Speaker 5: To some healing that I needed to address. And also
- 7:35Speaker 5: I was just really confused. And then, if I'm being honest,
- 7:40Speaker 5: I just wasn't ready. I just wasn't ready.
- 7:43Speaker 6: Was there any moments while you was recording this album
- 7:45Speaker 6: where you had to stop because it was too real?
- 7:47Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 7:48Speaker 1: A lot and and the film too.
- 7:51Speaker 5: Because it just brought back a lot, Like I'm gonna
- 7:53Speaker 5: tell you one part that was really, really real.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Did he shifted once again? You shifted my uterus? That
- 7:58Speaker 1: is what he read. Oh that was the real text.
- 8:00Speaker 1: That was real.
- 8:01Speaker 7: You got explained to for the people.
- 8:03Speaker 3: So you know what the means having flashbacks.
- 8:12Speaker 2: He shifted your u again again. I'll just say that
- 8:16Speaker 2: like that's such a hard thing down. I'm just saying
- 8:20Speaker 2: you already cheated him.
- 8:22Speaker 5: I know when a woman like really understands and falls
- 8:27Speaker 5: into her masculine energy, we become you all. And that's
- 8:31Speaker 5: what that text was. I was just basically macin.
- 8:36Speaker 2: Pussy wedding in yours the way I never told a girl.
- 8:40Speaker 2: I've never told a woman that.
- 8:43Speaker 7: Is wetter than you were.
- 8:45Speaker 6: Imagine you imagine a man cheated on you and then
- 8:47Speaker 6: told you that the woman he cheated with pussy was wedding.
- 8:50Speaker 1: Oh okay, is that equivalent. I'm just trying to hurt
- 8:56Speaker 1: you because no, no, no, he went through my phone.
- 9:00Speaker 8: And read that, and did you clear that with the
- 9:03Speaker 8: person that you actually your ex before you put that
- 9:05Speaker 8: in the visual, because that I know that still hurts.
- 9:08Speaker 7: And he had to watch it.
- 9:09Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, I only have to address it
- 9:11Speaker 5: with honesty. You can't have accountability without honesty. I had
- 9:15Speaker 5: to have honesty, that's it.
- 9:18Speaker 1: That's it. I had to address what I know that
- 9:21Speaker 1: hurt you.
- 9:23Speaker 2: That's different.
- 9:25Speaker 1: I'm damn. I had to go get pilet surgery after that.
- 9:34Speaker 2: I wish we could get a.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Ppling now though, Thank you.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
- 9:45Speaker 1: So okay.
- 9:46Speaker 8: The way that the album lines up, in a way
- 9:48Speaker 8: the visual goes, it tells the story right because in
- 9:50Speaker 8: the beginning, it's like you're happy, It's like you're y'all
- 9:53Speaker 8: are just discovering each other. When you know you know
- 9:55Speaker 8: is the first song individual.
- 9:59Speaker 7: Writing.
- 9:59Speaker 8: When you know you know about your ex? What is
- 10:02Speaker 8: it that you discovered you lost? From that point to
- 10:05Speaker 8: the point where you get to like, you know, uh,
- 10:08Speaker 8: letter to Alleo man, what you mean, like what what
- 10:12Speaker 8: changed in your relationship?
- 10:14Speaker 7: Like at that point of what change in you?
- 10:15Speaker 8: Where you were like, okay, I just was so sure
- 10:17Speaker 8: about this, and then it went from so short to
- 10:20Speaker 8: like you mess somebody else and you just completely forgot
- 10:22Speaker 8: about what you.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Were sure about.
- 10:23Speaker 5: I didn't meet nobody else. I basically revisited something that
- 10:27Speaker 5: I was completely over. And if I'm being honest, I
- 10:33Speaker 5: was honest with that person about that. When we first
- 10:35Speaker 5: started dating. You know, we were still talking, but we wasn't.
- 10:38Speaker 5: We were still platonic, but I still had feelings. And
- 10:41Speaker 5: I told that person else for the uterus shift, you're
- 10:47Speaker 5: something else.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Yeah, what devastated?
- 10:54Speaker 7: Explain? Yeah, what's that conversation like then?
- 10:58Speaker 8: Like when y'all first meet up and you're like, Okay,
- 11:00Speaker 8: I want you to know I still got so much
- 11:01Speaker 8: from my ex.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Yeah, but I.
- 11:03Speaker 5: Never thought that I would act on them. I just
- 11:05Speaker 5: thought that there were feelings that would eventually go away.
- 11:08Speaker 5: Does that make sense because we kind of I think
- 11:12Speaker 5: that when we're in the single outside moment, sometimes we
- 11:16Speaker 5: go into situations having unresolved feelings, right that you never
- 11:19Speaker 5: think that you're going to like revisit.
- 11:21Speaker 1: And I think that's honest, and I think that's normal.
- 11:24Speaker 5: You're not gonna like especially if you really, you really
- 11:27Speaker 5: truly love a person to spend time with the person,
- 11:29Speaker 5: it just doesn't go away overnight.
- 11:31Speaker 2: That's why you.
- 11:32Speaker 6: Can't be laying down with everybody because you really do
- 11:34Speaker 6: be exchanging and you really did. There is a piece
- 11:37Speaker 6: of you that you know you have shared with that
- 11:38Speaker 6: person level like you can people.
- 11:40Speaker 5: Yeah, but I was after I was very very sure
- 11:43Speaker 5: that I wanted to be with the other person the
- 11:45Speaker 5: person after that X, I was very very sure.
- 11:49Speaker 1: And does it hurt you to talk about it over
- 11:50Speaker 1: and over and over again? Does that body or not?
- 11:52Speaker 1: I'm completely healed.
- 11:54Speaker 8: Yeah, so safer on the app on the project, right,
- 11:57Speaker 8: you talk about like I feel safer besides you, you
- 12:00Speaker 8: make me want a pressure wine?
- 12:02Speaker 7: Or which person?
- 12:03Speaker 1: Are you? Both?
- 12:07Speaker 2: And boy?
- 12:07Speaker 1: Been in love with two people at the same time? Yes,
- 12:09Speaker 1: you have, Yes, you have. What do you mean, No,
- 12:14Speaker 1: of course you have.
- 12:16Speaker 7: A long time.
- 12:17Speaker 5: Get what I'm saying, Like it's a couple weeks ago,
- 12:19Speaker 5: But no, that's not true. That's I mean you outside,
- 12:26Speaker 5: So you kind of got to have a rosterapasta, no outside,
- 12:29Speaker 5: not no more.
- 12:30Speaker 7: But my last relationship before I became single.
- 12:34Speaker 5: A variety of ball of variety that.
- 12:36Speaker 8: At the time my last situation before I became single,
- 12:40Speaker 8: I was experiencing like, how the heck am I still have.
- 12:44Speaker 7: Love for you?
- 12:45Speaker 8: But in love or feeling like I might be able
- 12:49Speaker 8: to be in love with a person again, Like is
- 12:51Speaker 8: that a thing? Like I was kind of like confused,
- 12:52Speaker 8: and I know you had that conversation and your visual
- 12:54Speaker 8: as well, like what is happening right now because you
- 12:56Speaker 8: know it's just butterflies and lies, because a lot of
- 12:58Speaker 8: times it's not love, it's butterflies and lies.
- 13:00Speaker 7: Or if it's actual love with this new person.
- 13:02Speaker 5: That it was actual love with the new person, but
- 13:05Speaker 5: I had to button it up with the other one.
- 13:09Speaker 5: Does that make sense?
- 13:10Speaker 3: Yeah, because if you was really truly in love with
- 13:13Speaker 3: somebody right, your feelings would take overweight when you would
- 13:15Speaker 3: never want to hurt that person, and you would there
- 13:18Speaker 3: would be no way that you could love two people
- 13:20Speaker 3: the same way. Well, one could be an infatuation. One
- 13:23Speaker 3: could be you just love the dick and the uterus moving.
- 13:26Speaker 3: One could be just the butterfly. Could that please, don't
- 13:30Speaker 3: don't cook that, whatever you do, don't clik that.
- 13:31Speaker 5: Or it could be the memories.
- 13:34Speaker 1: Or what could have been?
- 13:36Speaker 5: And am I walking away from something that is truly
- 13:41Speaker 5: meant for me?
- 13:42Speaker 4: You know? It?
- 13:42Speaker 5: Was I mature at the time, Was I you know,
- 13:45Speaker 5: healed at the time, Was I a good enough woman?
- 13:47Speaker 5: Did I understand myself at the time? It was all
- 13:49Speaker 5: of those things that I had to figure out. You
- 13:52Speaker 5: know with those two situations, and I regret that I
- 13:57Speaker 5: hurt that person, I really do, But I don't regret
- 14:00Speaker 5: that I found myself.
- 14:02Speaker 2: I love this honest conversation. Yeah, I mean I do
- 14:04Speaker 2: you feel lighter now that this music is ab out?
- 14:07Speaker 1: Dude? It really truly held me.
- 14:08Speaker 2: It really did you feel exposed in a way, not in.
- 14:11Speaker 5: A scandalous bad way as some people want it to be.
- 14:15Speaker 3: No, if somebody date you now, can they truly believe
- 14:18Speaker 3: that you're into them and not possibly have feelings for
- 14:22Speaker 3: an X or possibly.
- 14:23Speaker 5: Well, I was honest with that person. I'm going to
- 14:26Speaker 5: be honest about it. Hey, we're grown and I hate
- 14:29Speaker 5: that I'm outside. I don't believe I'm supposed to be.
- 14:32Speaker 5: However I am, and I'm just too old and evolved
- 14:37Speaker 5: and just secured it to sit around and play a game.
- 14:41Speaker 1: I don't really have time. Well, I was dating for you, now,
- 14:43Speaker 1: how is that going? I'm not really doing a lot
- 14:44Speaker 1: of it. But outside sucks?
- 14:48Speaker 2: That sucks?
- 14:49Speaker 7: You know, that's it?
- 14:50Speaker 8: Are you intentionally dating? Are you just like having a
- 14:52Speaker 8: good time again a little fasta pasta.
- 14:55Speaker 5: I am not having a good time. I'm not having
- 14:59Speaker 5: a good time, but it is what it is. And
- 15:02Speaker 5: you know, I feel like now I put myself in
- 15:05Speaker 5: a position to really truly be with my person and
- 15:09Speaker 5: get it and get all that comes with it, and
- 15:12Speaker 5: I'm ready for it. And so that situation will never
- 15:15Speaker 5: ever ever happen to me again.
- 15:17Speaker 2: So what is being light? I feel like because you
- 15:19Speaker 2: said now that the music is that you feel lighter.
- 15:22Speaker 5: Okay, so you know when you really truly let something go,
- 15:26Speaker 5: guilt go, that's what I feel like. I completely let
- 15:29Speaker 5: it go.
- 15:30Speaker 2: You know, I'm this is the perfect time to do it.
- 15:31Speaker 2: It's comic, it's the year.
- 15:33Speaker 1: It's really.
- 15:35Speaker 6: Nine, and it's a nine year, so nine is the
- 15:38Speaker 6: highest level to change. So all of this stuff, You're
- 15:40Speaker 6: literally supposed to shed all of this like a snake shd.
- 15:42Speaker 1: So it was supposed to happen.
- 15:43Speaker 2: It was supposed to.
- 15:44Speaker 5: It was supposed to have this conversation a few what
- 15:47Speaker 5: was that eight months ago? To put this record together?
- 15:50Speaker 5: Get what tricky? Put this record together, make this film,
- 15:53Speaker 5: make my wrongs, try to make my wrongs right and
- 15:55Speaker 5: grow from it.
- 15:56Speaker 2: Wow, but you did make.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Your wrongs right.
- 15:59Speaker 3: You you you owned up what you have to do.
- 16:01Speaker 3: Now it's on Live the Hill. But you did what
- 16:03Speaker 3: you were supposed to do.
- 16:04Speaker 1: I think, thank you.
- 16:06Speaker 6: So what did heartbreak teach you that, like success, never
- 16:09Speaker 6: could personally about yourself with the heartbreak?
- 16:14Speaker 5: Well, I've been let down in both areas. I think
- 16:18Speaker 5: one of them I can control.
- 16:19Speaker 1: In one of them, I can't.
- 16:22Speaker 5: Yeah, heartbreak, I can control. That will never happen to
- 16:24Speaker 5: me again. I will never be heartbroken ever again.
- 16:27Speaker 7: How can you control that?
- 16:30Speaker 5: Because I just believe that you're not supposed to give
- 16:33Speaker 5: all of you. I have to have some of me
- 16:36Speaker 5: to be whole. If I give you all of me,
- 16:39Speaker 5: then that means I've lost control of myself.
- 16:41Speaker 1: I can't do that. No, I can't show up for you.
- 16:44Speaker 5: I can't show up for me.
- 16:45Speaker 1: I can't show up with my kid. I can't show
- 16:46Speaker 1: for your kids.
- 16:47Speaker 5: I cant show up for my businesses and other people
- 16:49Speaker 5: who need me. I can't give all of me. You
- 16:51Speaker 5: can't have all of me.
- 16:52Speaker 2: You know.
- 16:52Speaker 3: I always want to know Tamo with your career. Right,
- 16:55Speaker 3: You're amazing vocalist.
- 16:57Speaker 1: Thank you friend. You're just a dope person.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Right.
- 16:59Speaker 1: Anybody that knows you know you're a dope person. You're
- 17:00Speaker 1: not stuck up your fun.
- 17:02Speaker 3: You speak to everybody, you hug, everybody, you make amazing music.
- 17:07Speaker 3: Why don't you think you're a bigger artist than you
- 17:10Speaker 3: are because you're your everything.
- 17:13Speaker 1: I just feel like a line misses, something misses at
- 17:16Speaker 1: some point. Do you do you know what that is?
- 17:18Speaker 1: Because even with you go to your ex who.
- 17:20Speaker 3: Found Lady God God, and You've had the record, you
- 17:22Speaker 3: had the success, but it just seemed like it hasn't
- 17:24Speaker 3: hit like it's supposed to.
- 17:26Speaker 1: Really, I think so.
- 17:28Speaker 5: I think that's awfully kind and true. At the same time,
- 17:31Speaker 5: I think that if I'm honest, if that, if that
- 17:37Speaker 5: is in God's plan for me, I think that will
- 17:40Speaker 5: absolutely happen. But I am proud of the success that
- 17:44Speaker 5: I've had thus far because I've sold out all of
- 17:48Speaker 5: my tours. I'm my own promoter, you know. I have
- 17:52Speaker 5: numerous television shows right number one television shows, some that
- 17:57Speaker 5: I've executive produced.
- 17:59Speaker 1: Is something that I create, create well.
- 18:01Speaker 5: But I think that sometimes people put me in a
- 18:05Speaker 5: box of the shadow of Tony Braxton, and that's disheartening
- 18:10Speaker 5: for me because we are two totally different people and artists.
- 18:14Speaker 5: And if that is something that is always talked about
- 18:18Speaker 5: and brought up when it comes to my talent and
- 18:20Speaker 5: my tours and my success. If you are comparing that
- 18:23Speaker 5: to hers, it would look like that I'm less successful.
- 18:26Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah?
- 18:28Speaker 5: And I don't really like that because it's not fair
- 18:31Speaker 5: to her as an artist, and it's not fair to
- 18:32Speaker 5: me as an artist either, because I think that if
- 18:34Speaker 5: she wasn't my sister, it wouldn't be a Tony Braxton
- 18:36Speaker 5: that comes up in any conversation and anything that I do.
- 18:39Speaker 6: I mean, I understand whatever you're saying, and it is
- 18:41Speaker 6: an interesting conversation, but I feel like you found your
- 18:43Speaker 6: lane in other ways, I do, you know what I mean?
- 18:46Speaker 6: And your star has risen in you know, just as
- 18:50Speaker 6: big as Tony's another way.
- 18:52Speaker 1: But she makes dope music.
- 18:53Speaker 3: She's a dope artist, but I feel like she doesn't
- 18:55Speaker 3: get the looks and likeness of other artists, not even
- 18:57Speaker 3: her sister, just other artists in gentlemen. I always just
- 19:00Speaker 3: thought to myself, why, I just wonder why that was?
- 19:02Speaker 5: You know, that's really kind. Let's meditated on that. Come on,
- 19:06Speaker 5: you're a good meditator.
- 19:07Speaker 2: I can tell I do. I'm getting better.
- 19:09Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really hard to kind of when I first start,
- 19:12Speaker 5: it was really hard for me to kind of tap in.
- 19:14Speaker 2: I can do it probably like up to four to
- 19:15Speaker 2: five minutes. Now. Really that's impressive, but it takes a
- 19:18Speaker 2: while to get there.
- 19:20Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.
- 19:20Speaker 6: Once I get there, I can probably do it, but
- 19:22Speaker 6: it takes a while for me to get to that space.
- 19:24Speaker 6: It's impressive country beats.
- 19:27Speaker 5: I don't count be I'm just really started in it
- 19:30Speaker 5: and I really enjoy it, but it takes a long
- 19:32Speaker 5: time to get there. How long did it take you
- 19:34Speaker 5: to get to that point?
- 19:37Speaker 2: Probably probably a year of constantly.
- 19:39Speaker 7: Doing really okay seven days a week.
- 19:43Speaker 2: Yep.
- 19:44Speaker 1: Also you you also down with the ships too.
- 19:46Speaker 3: We've seen you at Versus and is why did you
- 19:49Speaker 3: decide to go to Versus as support Bourbon?
- 19:51Speaker 5: Because first of all, that's my friend, my real friend.
- 19:54Speaker 1: Did y'all make up yet?
- 19:56Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 19:56Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it's so funny. He was on
- 19:59Speaker 6: when BT was up here. He but I talked him
- 20:00Speaker 6: on the phone. You and me was up a couple
- 20:03Speaker 6: weeks ago. He was on the phone too.
- 20:04Speaker 2: It was a little bit.
- 20:09Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's my friend. And the truth is I
- 20:15Speaker 5: introduced him to his wife, and so we're really like
- 20:18Speaker 5: locked in and Tony couldn't make it when you met Burman.
- 20:21Speaker 1: What's what made you say this is the perfect person
- 20:24Speaker 1: for my sister. That didn't happen like that. He assumed
- 20:26Speaker 1: her through me.
- 20:28Speaker 5: At first he was like yeah, and I was like,
- 20:30Speaker 5: she's married, leave my sister alone. And then when she
- 20:33Speaker 5: got a divorce, he was very intentional about her.
- 20:36Speaker 2: Now the internet was saying that you dated I've.
- 20:38Speaker 5: Never dated Brian ever in my life. So I met
- 20:40Speaker 5: him through somebody else, one of my other homegirls that
- 20:43Speaker 5: was dating him. And then when I went out with them,
- 20:47Speaker 5: he found out that I could sing. It was actually
- 20:48Speaker 5: Slim who found out that I could sing, and they
- 20:50Speaker 5: wanted to sign me the cash money.
- 20:52Speaker 1: And that's the story.
- 20:53Speaker 6: How did you feel when folks were criticizing you about
- 20:55Speaker 6: supporting him as if it was something else other than.
- 20:59Speaker 5: I just think it's another form of tamar cyberbullying, because
- 21:03Speaker 5: why wouldn't you support your family? That's my brother in law,
- 21:06Speaker 5: that's my family. You know, we spend holidays together, you know,
- 21:09Speaker 5: we have intimate conversations about my family, you know, so like,
- 21:13Speaker 5: why wouldn't I support man? Why would I not brush
- 21:15Speaker 5: them off or wipe them down?
- 21:16Speaker 1: Because and I'll do it again, thank you.
- 21:21Speaker 8: Like after they had the video of y'all facetiming Tony
- 21:24Speaker 8: Wraxton and just you know how excited all of you
- 21:26Speaker 8: guys were in that moment. But people still turn that
- 21:28Speaker 8: into like a thing to make a meme about it.
- 21:31Speaker 1: People make things what they wanted to be.
- 21:33Speaker 5: You know, I'm not going to chase people and try
- 21:36Speaker 5: to beat them over the head and talk them into
- 21:37Speaker 5: liking me or you know, supporting me and the things
- 21:40Speaker 5: that I do.
- 21:40Speaker 1: It's not a Tamar problem.
- 21:42Speaker 6: Has it gotten worse because it has since since I
- 21:45Speaker 6: want to say since the reality show. But I don't
- 21:47Speaker 6: feel like it would like this when y'all had the
- 21:48Speaker 6: reality I feel like it's gotten it has.
- 21:51Speaker 5: I feel like it has, and I don't have a
- 21:54Speaker 5: definition as to why. I think maybe because you know,
- 21:57Speaker 5: I was really kind of diving in to this the
- 22:00Speaker 5: other day with my therapist. I think because I don't
- 22:03Speaker 5: address things do, people just keep going and going and
- 22:08Speaker 5: going because they know number one, Tamar's clickbait number one. Right,
- 22:12Speaker 5: whether I say anything back or not, it's going to
- 22:15Speaker 5: go viral and it's going to be all over the
- 22:16Speaker 5: place for a few days. And if I don't address it,
- 22:20Speaker 5: then people believe it to be the truth. And the
- 22:23Speaker 5: reason why I won't address it is because I have
- 22:25Speaker 5: to address everything and I just simply don't want to
- 22:27Speaker 5: do that. I don't don't. I don't want to stop
- 22:30Speaker 5: doing what I'm doing and address some can I cuss
- 22:33Speaker 5: some bullshit that I don't care about. You get what
- 22:36Speaker 5: I'm saying. So, yes, it has gotten worse. And I
- 22:38Speaker 5: think that because big artists like Cardi b will hop
- 22:41Speaker 5: ha ass on the internet and read you your rights.
- 22:44Speaker 5: She don't care who you are, where you come from.
- 22:46Speaker 5: And it's going down Bobby Brown, I just don't simply
- 22:48Speaker 5: don't want to.
- 22:49Speaker 1: I don't feel like it. I don't.
- 22:51Speaker 5: I don't want to do that.
- 22:52Speaker 2: Do you feel like the headlines descrip for your music?
- 22:55Speaker 1: No?
- 22:55Speaker 5: No, I don't think it distracts from any success because
- 22:58Speaker 5: I still have it, which I feel like I have more,
- 23:00Speaker 5: although it's not as loud as it used to be,
- 23:02Speaker 5: but like I have more now. But I do think
- 23:06Speaker 5: it distracts from my personality and who I really am,
- 23:09Speaker 5: and that sometimes is troublesome for me.
- 23:12Speaker 7: With talking about headlines.
- 23:14Speaker 8: When everything happened with your accident and you came out
- 23:18Speaker 8: online and told people what happened, and the reaction just
- 23:22Speaker 8: wasn't as supportive as it should have been for someone
- 23:24Speaker 8: who was going through what you know, you went through.
- 23:26Speaker 8: How did you feel on the inside, Like you you're like, hey,
- 23:29Speaker 8: I almost died.
- 23:30Speaker 7: I woke up in a pool blood and what happened.
- 23:32Speaker 1: First of all, for people that don't know.
- 23:35Speaker 2: To talk about that.
- 23:36Speaker 5: And let me tell you what it, let me tell
- 23:38Speaker 5: you what.
- 23:39Speaker 7: I've reached out to you, so you know, and I
- 23:41Speaker 7: appreciate that, thank you.
- 23:43Speaker 5: I think that it was a specific situation that made
- 23:47Speaker 5: it negative. I think that at first that people were
- 23:50Speaker 5: really genuinely concerned. Actually was supposed to be my close friends,
- 23:53Speaker 5: if I'm being honest. Yeah, it was supposed to be
- 23:57Speaker 5: in my close friends, and I was just so that
- 24:01Speaker 5: it went out on the regular. So I think that
- 24:06Speaker 5: that situation turned to be negative because it was a
- 24:10Speaker 5: negative spin on it, and it was really something that
- 24:13Speaker 5: truly that was traumatic that happened to me. And I'm
- 24:16Speaker 5: going to decline from speaking to any further because I can't.
- 24:20Speaker 5: I'm tired.
- 24:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 24:23Speaker 8: Well, back to the project I mentioned letter to man earlier. Yeah,
- 24:30Speaker 8: which man is.
- 24:31Speaker 1: I will not be telling y'all, I can't do that.
- 24:34Speaker 7: Letter to Leo Man is like, okay, So Leo Man.
- 24:37Speaker 5: Is a tough man. That's a tough one. That's a
- 24:41Speaker 5: tough cookie to crack. And so was a Sagittarius and so.
- 24:47Speaker 1: As.
- 24:47Speaker 5: I've never dated Arias ban I won't.
- 24:52Speaker 7: It's a great time.
- 24:53Speaker 5: It's a good time.
- 24:53Speaker 7: They're definitely tough to crack.
- 24:55Speaker 5: They are in a scorpio. It needs to be a
- 24:59Speaker 5: song about the all.
- 25:02Speaker 6: Actually, you ain't name no beautiful cancers because we're so sweet, you.
- 25:07Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying?
- 25:07Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your sign?
- 25:10Speaker 5: I like a Virgo, but the mother ones we got
- 25:13Speaker 5: to stay in the prayer list for and fast and terry.
- 25:17Speaker 2: You know we had.
- 25:18Speaker 6: We got a producer up here. Her name is Taylor,
- 25:20Speaker 6: and she keeps saying this joke. I don't even know
- 25:22Speaker 6: if it's a joke, but she keeps saying, if you
- 25:23Speaker 6: want something green and slow next time, go.
- 25:26Speaker 2: Buy you a turtle. That was me, I know, but
- 25:29Speaker 2: I think I know what it means. Don't be green.
- 25:32Speaker 2: I'm not green and I ain't slow. I don't know
- 25:35Speaker 2: why she can't get that joke.
- 25:36Speaker 1: She doesn't get it.
- 25:37Speaker 2: She keeps saying it over and over like nobody wants.
- 25:39Speaker 1: Something green and slug go by you.
- 25:41Speaker 2: Turtle, but she's a little green.
- 25:48Speaker 1: Do you guys get what that means? What that means
- 25:55Speaker 1: that meditation?
- 25:58Speaker 2: Do you think healed people love differently?
- 26:01Speaker 6: Are they just more honest about their limits?
- 26:06Speaker 5: I think both. I think that when you're healed, you
- 26:10Speaker 5: you're very careful about how you love right and who
- 26:15Speaker 5: you love because there is no way that I'm going
- 26:19Speaker 5: to get with a person who has a lot of
- 26:21Speaker 5: healing to do. It's just not going to work.
- 26:24Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's not going to work.
- 26:26Speaker 5: And I don't care how much chemistry we have or
- 26:29Speaker 5: what the vibe is.
- 26:30Speaker 1: It's a good vibe, a good time. It's just never
- 26:33Speaker 1: ever ever going to work.
- 26:34Speaker 5: And I think that if I hadn't started my healing journey,
- 26:37Speaker 5: and it is a journey, and I want to say this,
- 26:38Speaker 5: A lot of people say this about me online. Oh
- 26:41Speaker 5: she's been on this healing journey, here she go again.
- 26:43Speaker 5: A healing journey is forever.
- 26:46Speaker 7: Every single day.
- 26:47Speaker 5: It's forever, and you have hiccups along the way. But
- 26:50Speaker 5: my healing journey will never stop because I know what
- 26:53Speaker 5: I know and I know.
- 26:55Speaker 6: And you said something. You expressed the sentiment that so
- 26:57Speaker 6: many women I know say. They were like, I don't
- 26:59Speaker 6: even want to deal with nobody. If they're not trying
- 27:01Speaker 6: to do some work on this other, they're not doing
- 27:03Speaker 6: the work on themsel.
- 27:04Speaker 5: Because why where we going to end up? Toxic in
- 27:08Speaker 5: your forties?
- 27:09Speaker 1: Is not it?
- 27:10Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, It's not That's not it.
- 27:12Speaker 5: We were supposed to be fighting and arguing and I
- 27:14Speaker 5: ain't doing that. No, I'm laying on the beach and
- 27:16Speaker 5: making some coins.
- 27:17Speaker 1: Good night.
- 27:18Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 27:18Speaker 8: Is that why you said you're not having fun outside?
- 27:21Speaker 8: It's because you keep running into toxic in over forty.
- 27:24Speaker 5: I am not running into anything, you know.
- 27:30Speaker 1: What I'm saying?
- 27:32Speaker 2: Thank you?
- 27:34Speaker 1: And how's your relationship with your sisters? How y'all doing that?
- 27:39Speaker 1: I look at this, yaw'll be wondering what's real, what's
- 27:41Speaker 1: not real? What's made up? Behind the scenes? Did y'all speak?
- 27:45Speaker 5: This season was definitely unfortunately real, but it was necessary.
- 27:51Speaker 5: You know, we had a lot to get through and
- 27:54Speaker 5: talk about and figure out, and that we're still figuring out.
- 27:58Speaker 5: And I'm just happy that we're on a path to
- 28:03Speaker 5: not being.
- 28:03Speaker 1: Stuck in yesterday.
- 28:07Speaker 5: We can move forward from that and have different conversations
- 28:11Speaker 5: about what happened and why it happened, instead of people
- 28:15Speaker 5: holding on to different things that has been buried along
- 28:18Speaker 5: the way.
- 28:19Speaker 1: You feel like your sisters are jealousy you, I know
- 28:20Speaker 1: one time you believe that.
- 28:23Speaker 5: Listen, when you're in an argument with your family members,
- 28:25Speaker 5: you say, anything happens.
- 28:27Speaker 1: No, I don't truly believe that.
- 28:29Speaker 5: I don't believe that. I really honestly feel like you know,
- 28:33Speaker 5: in everybody's individual way, that we all really have a real.
- 28:36Speaker 1: Strong love for each other. I think that.
- 28:40Speaker 5: As individuals and as women, I think that some of
- 28:43Speaker 5: us are still trying to figure out what that looks like.
- 28:45Speaker 5: And I know I am what it looks like and
- 28:47Speaker 5: what it is and how we fit into our sisterhood
- 28:50Speaker 5: now today.
- 28:52Speaker 3: As adults, And how do y'all fight as sisters? Like
- 28:55Speaker 3: after y'all fight, do y'all say I need five more minutes?
- 28:58Speaker 3: Or like how does it stop when you get tired?
- 29:00Speaker 5: Like I think everybody go to their corners and patch
- 29:05Speaker 5: up and heel up.
- 29:06Speaker 2: That's what I think, you know, Rest in peace to Tracy.
- 29:09Speaker 6: Always did that not bring y'all together and that not
- 29:13Speaker 6: make y'all say, you know what, all the petty we
- 29:15Speaker 6: haveing a dress, let's just sit down and do it,
- 29:17Speaker 6: because you know, life is short.
- 29:21Speaker 1: In a sense.
- 29:22Speaker 5: But in a sense, it kind of made things exasperate, yeah,
- 29:27Speaker 5: because you know, we never thought that you know, we
- 29:29Speaker 5: would up. You don't think you're going to lose a sibling, right,
- 29:33Speaker 5: And but the way that you know she passed, she
- 29:36Speaker 5: got sick and it happened very rapidly. And so I
- 29:40Speaker 5: think that there's a lot of anger, but it's a
- 29:42Speaker 5: lot of healing that needs to happen that bubbles around
- 29:45Speaker 5: Tracy in that situation. And I think that the Tracy
- 29:49Speaker 5: situation made everything else so much bigger.
- 29:53Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw you. I saw you beating yourself up
- 29:56Speaker 6: about it. You know, I should would could ave it.
- 29:59Speaker 5: Yeah, we was a lot of time, But the truth
- 30:04Speaker 5: is I wasn't ready to heal back then, right, And
- 30:09Speaker 5: it doesn't matter, you know how much time we wasted
- 30:12Speaker 5: in the end, we really made up for it, and
- 30:15Speaker 5: I'm grateful for that. I just wish I had more
- 30:17Speaker 5: time with that kind of time with Tracy.
- 30:20Speaker 2: And that's all different for me, and it's different.
- 30:25Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, I went to grief counseling before
- 30:29Speaker 5: Tracy passed, and not to say I was prepared for
- 30:32Speaker 5: but I was more prepared for it and how to
- 30:34Speaker 5: deal with it.
- 30:35Speaker 1: So for me.
- 30:39Speaker 5: With cancers, very very tricky, right, because it's I feel
- 30:43Speaker 5: like it's almost like a sense of sitting around and
- 30:44Speaker 5: waiting for somebody to pass.
- 30:46Speaker 2: Right.
- 30:46Speaker 5: You know it's coming, especially at her stage, and so
- 30:52Speaker 5: I just feel like going through grief counseling prepared me
- 30:56Speaker 5: to deal with it, like I was dealing with it
- 30:59Speaker 5: while she was sick, if that makes sense. So when
- 31:01Speaker 5: it actually happened, I was more relieved than anything because
- 31:04Speaker 5: I asked her a specific question one time. I was like,
- 31:07Speaker 5: how do you feel, like, are you in pain?
- 31:09Speaker 6: Like?
- 31:09Speaker 1: Because she was.
- 31:10Speaker 5: Heavily medicated, she was like, this never a moment when
- 31:13Speaker 5: I'm not in pain. Yeah, that was really hard.
- 31:17Speaker 7: What has been your Yeah, but.
- 31:19Speaker 1: We love Tracy.
- 31:20Speaker 5: She's with me all the time, so let's bring your
- 31:22Speaker 5: back up. But she'd be mad if we was upset
- 31:23Speaker 5: about it.
- 31:25Speaker 8: So this project, when you're released from the grief of
- 31:28Speaker 8: your ex, what what do you find is your relief
- 31:30Speaker 8: from other griefs that you go through, like loss of
- 31:32Speaker 8: your sister friendships, whatever the case may be.
- 31:34Speaker 5: I stay in therapy and I'm on medication. I'm not
- 31:40Speaker 5: I got off medication two weeks ago just to film
- 31:42Speaker 5: this movie because it was very it's a very emotional film.
- 31:45Speaker 1: But I can't wait to get back.
- 31:48Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm on Lexapro. It's the best thing that ever
- 31:52Speaker 5: happened to me. Everybody needs lex Pro.
- 31:56Speaker 2: Why don't you tell the people where the feel like
- 31:59Speaker 2: you said something that calms you.
- 32:00Speaker 5: It's just just it's good for my nervous system, you
- 32:06Speaker 5: know what I mean? You know, like when people like
- 32:08Speaker 5: hear tea on the internet and it buzzes and everybody
- 32:12Speaker 5: nervous system that's all over the place. It just keeps
- 32:14Speaker 5: it calm. It's the best without being high, that's the best.
- 32:21Speaker 8: So how are you dealing with things as they come
- 32:23Speaker 8: in these couple like this time that you're shooting your
- 32:25Speaker 8: movie since you're used to having like, you know, like
- 32:28Speaker 8: help with dealing with things that might pop up and
- 32:30Speaker 8: things people saying like are you because.
- 32:33Speaker 7: You're on the internet.
- 32:34Speaker 1: I'm on the internet.
- 32:35Speaker 7: Yeah, but like how do you how are you coping?
- 32:37Speaker 7: How you getting through?
- 32:37Speaker 2: Now?
- 32:38Speaker 1: You're therapy? Therapy?
- 32:41Speaker 5: You do what you gotta do for work, right, you
- 32:43Speaker 5: do what you gotta do because you want more things
- 32:45Speaker 5: and bigger things and bigger opportunities. And I don't look
- 32:47Speaker 5: at my mental health journey as a handicap, right. It
- 32:53Speaker 5: doesn't stifle me in any way. I just now know
- 32:57Speaker 5: how to navigate it. And I'm responsible with my mental
- 32:59Speaker 5: health health. And it's okay, listen, I don't I don't
- 33:03Speaker 5: have to be on mental health medication.
- 33:06Speaker 1: It's just helpful. Does that make sense?
- 33:09Speaker 2: Absolutely?
- 33:10Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 33:10Speaker 5: And so yeah, and I know that. And because I
- 33:14Speaker 5: know that, it doesn't make me feel a way because
- 33:17Speaker 5: I'm not on it. Does that make sense? I hope
- 33:19Speaker 5: that makes sense. I got you, Okay, I got you.
- 33:21Speaker 7: When you're in therapy, are you talking to your therapist
- 33:23Speaker 7: about everything?
- 33:24Speaker 8: Okay? What's what's like? I mean everything?
- 33:28Speaker 2: Do you have a culturally competent therapist?
- 33:30Speaker 1: So they are I have two? Okay?
- 33:37Speaker 5: And so helpful?
- 33:38Speaker 1: Yeah? Do they call you when they see stuff coming on?
- 33:40Speaker 5: Like let me just call me at three?
- 33:45Speaker 1: Yeah, it's things like that.
- 33:46Speaker 8: Do things trigger you, like I know there was the
- 33:48Speaker 8: you sent the cease and desist because of the funky
- 33:50Speaker 8: Neva stuff.
- 33:51Speaker 7: Do we have to talk about that we don't have
- 33:52Speaker 7: to talk about it.
- 33:53Speaker 3: You before that different topics. I should get up here
- 33:58Speaker 3: in twelve year round like she does sis. Then you're
- 34:00Speaker 3: gonna be like, feel a waste.
- 34:02Speaker 8: She knows that this is not any INSPI or anything
- 34:05Speaker 8: like that. It's just a conversation.
- 34:06Speaker 2: Well, let's go back to heartbreak.
- 34:08Speaker 6: The heartbreak can feel isolated, right, So what do you
- 34:11Speaker 6: hope women who are listening to this album alone at
- 34:14Speaker 6: night feel?
- 34:15Speaker 1: Oh?
- 34:17Speaker 5: The number one thing for my takeaway, the only way
- 34:23Speaker 5: out is through. You just kind of got to go
- 34:26Speaker 5: through the process and you got to allow yourself to feel.
- 34:30Speaker 5: And just like my major feeling was grief and guilt.
- 34:36Speaker 1: I had to get over that.
- 34:37Speaker 5: I had to, you know, go through all the steps
- 34:40Speaker 5: to get out of it. And I think that with
- 34:43Speaker 5: heartbreak retrograde, I just wanted to, you know, be the
- 34:48Speaker 5: piece for women to know that, you know, you're you're
- 34:52Speaker 5: not a broken person because you cheat on your spouse.
- 34:55Speaker 5: You know what I mean, You're not damaged goods. You
- 34:58Speaker 5: went through something and you take account nobility and you
- 35:01Speaker 5: go through the motions to heal and and and be
- 35:03Speaker 5: better and get better.
- 35:06Speaker 2: I agree with all that, but.
- 35:07Speaker 1: It's just the way.
- 35:08Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, certain things you have to say,
- 35:12Speaker 2: you don't.
- 35:12Speaker 1: You can't know.
- 35:13Speaker 2: You don't need to tell the man that the other
- 35:14Speaker 2: man shifted you.
- 35:16Speaker 1: I didn't tell him me read it.
- 35:17Speaker 2: Well, you know what he should have been going should be.
- 35:21Speaker 1: Why would you tell that other I smacking, I mean
- 35:26Speaker 1: were racked too.
- 35:29Speaker 2: So he was lying. He didn't really do it.
- 35:30Speaker 1: You just I was sacking. I'm telling you I was sacking.
- 35:35Speaker 1: So you're just helping his ego. Thank you, Okay.
- 35:42Speaker 7: I love that you.
- 35:42Speaker 6: Are just this triggered by she got a bass because
- 35:45Speaker 6: her last X all right around.
- 35:49Speaker 8: Lie, no girl, never because I got stitches to grow
- 35:57Speaker 8: where the stitches were stupid.
- 35:59Speaker 2: He's changing the story.
- 36:00Speaker 8: Dermatologists for you your hair, Yes, God, you're still gonna
- 36:03Speaker 8: give them to me after my last question.
- 36:05Speaker 1: I'm not upset about it all. You're doing your job,
- 36:07Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna say this, she's amazing. You found her, right,
- 36:12Speaker 1: I found them the kind of.
- 36:14Speaker 5: Like that.
- 36:16Speaker 2: People that recommended her.
- 36:18Speaker 1: But I tell you that all the time.
- 36:19Speaker 8: You know, you're so supportive, and that's why, Like when
- 36:22Speaker 8: so today when I came in, I gave you some
- 36:23Speaker 8: hugs before this, I'm like it's such a dynamic of
- 36:26Speaker 8: like doing your job and like because I keep up
- 36:28Speaker 8: with everything that you do, but also in real life,
- 36:30Speaker 8: whenever thing's happen, I'm.
- 36:32Speaker 7: Like, hey, you good, like I know that.
- 36:34Speaker 8: And a lot of times I don't bring it to
- 36:35Speaker 8: air because when we talk, I know you're going through
- 36:37Speaker 8: things for real, for real and it gets really.
- 36:39Speaker 7: Tough for you.
- 36:39Speaker 6: So I was she found us while being here, she
- 36:44Speaker 6: found herself, and I think when she found herself that's
- 36:47Speaker 6: when she started to flourish.
- 36:49Speaker 1: And that's what happened.
- 36:51Speaker 5: Isn't that amazing when you find yourself, like the level
- 36:55Speaker 5: of like like you never thought that you could even
- 36:59Speaker 5: think that big, you know what I mean? But finding
- 37:01Speaker 5: yourself is the key to it all. And I'm telling
- 37:03Speaker 5: you I'm not plugging my record. I'm just telling you
- 37:06Speaker 5: a heartbreak retrograde. I think it's saved my life.
- 37:10Speaker 1: It just did.
- 37:11Speaker 7: The visual too, yeah too.
- 37:13Speaker 8: I think when people listen to the music, you should
- 37:14Speaker 8: watch the visual with the music because I think it
- 37:17Speaker 8: really shows something that all women go through, not just
- 37:20Speaker 8: about men and cheating, but just about figuring out who
- 37:22Speaker 8: you want to show up as.
- 37:23Speaker 5: Yeah me, DC's is still upset with me about this,
- 37:27Speaker 5: about this scene. But it's a very important scene that's
- 37:29Speaker 5: in the film. It's the breakup scene when he sits
- 37:32Speaker 5: me down and he's just like absolutely positively not like
- 37:37Speaker 5: what you do with them lips?
- 37:38Speaker 1: You think you're gona kiss me with those lips?
- 37:39Speaker 5: Like it's it's really important to men because I just
- 37:43Speaker 5: feel like we never see the other side. And we
- 37:47Speaker 5: always talk about when a woman's fed up, but we
- 37:49Speaker 5: never talk about when a man is done done.
- 37:53Speaker 1: And it's over with and it's nothing you could do
- 37:56Speaker 1: about that shit the cry.
- 37:59Speaker 5: It's true, and I didn't know that until that situation
- 38:03Speaker 5: what that man can really be done, that men can.
- 38:05Speaker 1: Really be done with. Get hurt too, You hurt your feelings,
- 38:10Speaker 1: but they would come back.
- 38:12Speaker 2: Yeah damn. Is there a song on the album that
- 38:15Speaker 2: represents closure for you?
- 38:20Speaker 1: Yes?
- 38:24Speaker 5: I think the record loved me. It's just talk talking
- 38:28Speaker 5: about I miss it and I love it, but it's over.
- 38:35Speaker 1: And that's it.
- 38:37Speaker 5: I just have I had to take that situation as
- 38:38Speaker 5: a lesson because I really wanted it to work out,
- 38:41Speaker 5: and when it didn't, I just had to accept that
- 38:44Speaker 5: that this was your lesson, and I know this is
- 38:47Speaker 5: my lesson. To become the best version of myself for
- 38:50Speaker 5: the best person that God has for me, which is.
- 38:52Speaker 1: My partner.
- 38:56Speaker 2: With somebody else that you have been in love with somebody.
- 39:00Speaker 6: No, this is what you mean, because I'm saying, like,
- 39:02Speaker 6: could that happen again?
- 39:04Speaker 5: No, I'm never I will never experience another heartbreak, even
- 39:08Speaker 5: if if the person passes away, I will not experience heartbreak.
- 39:11Speaker 2: I don't know how that's possible because.
- 39:13Speaker 1: It's a part of life.
- 39:14Speaker 5: I'm not arguing with God. You understand what I'm saying.
- 39:18Speaker 5: I feel it, and I know how to process it.
- 39:21Speaker 5: You understand what I'm saying, like, I'm not going into
- 39:23Speaker 5: a deep depression over it. I know how to handle
- 39:27Speaker 5: my emotions, you know. And I'm just never going to
- 39:29Speaker 5: experience heartbreak ever again.
- 39:31Speaker 2: Is that not suppressing it?
- 39:32Speaker 1: Though? No, I'm going to feel it.
- 39:34Speaker 5: I'm not going to say I'm not going to be sad,
- 39:36Speaker 5: but I'm not going to be heartbroken.
- 39:37Speaker 8: You're saying you're not gonna liw yourself to get to
- 39:39Speaker 8: that dark deep. I know what you're talking about because
- 39:41Speaker 8: I think men, y'all deal.
- 39:44Speaker 1: I can be there something. Having one of my kids,
- 39:46Speaker 1: I'm heartbroken.
- 39:47Speaker 7: That's different.
- 39:49Speaker 1: Heartbreak. I'm heartbroken.
- 39:50Speaker 3: Different my wife walks up and tells me she has
- 39:52Speaker 3: sex with somebody else that had a bigger penis.
- 39:54Speaker 1: I'm heartbroken.
- 39:54Speaker 3: I'm sorry, was a.
- 40:01Speaker 1: Shut up man.
- 40:03Speaker 8: Well, I know what you mean though, of going through
- 40:05Speaker 8: like that deep dark place because of something that you
- 40:08Speaker 8: think was done or was done, and you're like, I'm
- 40:09Speaker 8: never gonna allow myself to get back here.
- 40:11Speaker 5: It's not possible.
- 40:12Speaker 6: I don't think I mean, everybody grieved diff but I
- 40:15Speaker 6: just think grief is something we should allow ourselves to feel.
- 40:19Speaker 2: That heartbreak is something we should allow ourselves.
- 40:21Speaker 5: Differ, not to that degree that was unhealthy.
- 40:24Speaker 8: Do you feel like that blocks you from having real
- 40:26Speaker 8: love again?
- 40:27Speaker 7: Though?
- 40:28Speaker 8: That what that you are set on, I'm never going
- 40:31Speaker 8: to experience heartbreak. So it's kind of like, I mean,
- 40:33Speaker 8: I'm talking about myself personally, right, because I decided that
- 40:36Speaker 8: after going through a really bad situation in a good situation,
- 40:39Speaker 8: I found myself almost like waiting for the next shoe
- 40:42Speaker 8: to drop because I wanted to like get out before
- 40:43Speaker 8: I was gonna feel anything that would hurt me, because
- 40:45Speaker 8: I didn't want to go through heartbreak again. And then
- 40:47Speaker 8: it was messing up what was good like it was
- 40:49Speaker 8: creating things that weren't even really happening. Do you experience
- 40:53Speaker 8: like are you able to be vulnerable and really accept that,
- 40:55Speaker 8: like you might not have all good with a person
- 40:58Speaker 8: that is good for you.
- 40:59Speaker 5: Yeah, but there is a wall, but you're not getting
- 41:04Speaker 5: past because I'm not going back. And that's that on that,
- 41:08Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I'm not anticipating pain, not
- 41:12Speaker 5: doing it. I'm gonna somebody makes me feel good and
- 41:14Speaker 5: we have in a moment, and you know, the vibe
- 41:17Speaker 5: is vibe it. I'm gonna sit in it and enjoy
- 41:19Speaker 5: every second until it's not there anymore, and then I'm
- 41:24Speaker 5: going to move to the left.
- 41:25Speaker 7: It's's no struggle love. You don't want struggle love.
- 41:27Speaker 5: I'm not doing it.
- 41:28Speaker 1: Why, I'm a great one. I'm a great catch. Hello.
- 41:32Speaker 6: I understand what you're saying, because, like you said, you
- 41:35Speaker 6: caused the heart break I did. But you're not gonna
- 41:37Speaker 6: beat yourself up over I guess a mistake that you made.
- 41:41Speaker 5: I did beat myself up.
- 41:45Speaker 2: So what version of Tamo walked into the studio? What
- 41:47Speaker 2: version walked out? Well?
- 41:50Speaker 5: I came in here a little heavy, because you know,
- 41:53Speaker 5: stud when you did that, the studio Today was rough
- 41:58Speaker 5: for me because I think that sometimes like it's a lot, right,
- 42:05Speaker 5: and I have anxiety, and I know and I recognize
- 42:07Speaker 5: that I'm not on my medication right now, so it's
- 42:10Speaker 5: probably heightened.
- 42:12Speaker 2: You're gonna get asked.
- 42:14Speaker 5: I don't want to discuss, you know, and you know,
- 42:16Speaker 5: I don't want to make things worse, not only for myself,
- 42:21Speaker 5: but for my loved ones and loved ones being the
- 42:25Speaker 5: person heart that I broke, or my siblings or I
- 42:29Speaker 5: know it's tough for my mother to see her daughters
- 42:33Speaker 5: that way.
- 42:34Speaker 1: And I also don't.
- 42:34Speaker 5: Want to give opportunity for anybody to say anything else. Yeah,
- 42:41Speaker 5: but I'm okay now.
- 42:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 42:43Speaker 5: Before I came in, I just senter it myself and
- 42:46Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm in a safe place. I'm in a
- 42:48Speaker 5: safe place because I'm in control of me, you control
- 42:50Speaker 5: of what comes out of my mouth. And it doesn't
- 42:52Speaker 5: matter what the headlines say. I know that whatever I say,
- 42:54Speaker 5: I'm gonna stand by, and that's it.
- 42:57Speaker 2: Shifting the gag gonna come out because I'm not about him.
- 43:01Speaker 2: But if he start doing it, he's not as a
- 43:03Speaker 2: uter shifter. Yes, I should have hired.
- 43:15Speaker 1: I just want to tell you, we love you, support you, yes,
- 43:18Speaker 1: will we have your back?
- 43:19Speaker 7: And congrats on Bridezilla too, Thank you, thank you.
- 43:23Speaker 6: I do have one more question, because after heartbreak retrograde,
- 43:25Speaker 6: what does love look like moving forward forward?
- 43:27Speaker 2: Is it softer? Is it guarded? Is it fearless?
- 43:30Speaker 5: It's all of that. But I'm looking forward to a
- 43:32Speaker 5: soft love, I really am. I'm looking forward to to
- 43:37Speaker 5: catering to and catering to me.
- 43:40Speaker 7: It's a great place there, you go what it's a
- 43:47Speaker 7: great place to be.
- 43:48Speaker 1: Do you talk? We open about it? I feelsation. Are
- 43:57Speaker 1: you opening? Are you public?
- 43:58Speaker 5: Because I won't be public ever again. Wait, just four
- 44:01Speaker 5: or five months ago, she had to, she had to
- 44:04Speaker 5: figure out which one it was going to be single
- 44:06Speaker 5: and I was dating.
- 44:07Speaker 1: That's you should take more than one.
- 44:10Speaker 3: She's happy, she's glowing now and it's the same thing
- 44:16Speaker 3: that though I fixed that before.
- 44:18Speaker 7: A terrible he dropped me.
- 44:19Speaker 1: Spray on hair dyed like paint, spray covers it.
- 44:23Speaker 6: You wait, this is true love, legendary.
- 44:30Speaker 8: Why to answer your question, I will talk about being
- 44:34Speaker 8: in a relationship, but I do want to keep certain
- 44:35Speaker 8: things to myself.
- 44:37Speaker 5: Because I haven't seen them on your page yet. Do
- 44:40Speaker 5: not show him yet I just don't show him. I
- 44:44Speaker 5: think that's when things get a little while. I mean,
- 44:47Speaker 5: don't show already posted him.
- 44:50Speaker 8: But oh wow, But I will say I think certain
- 44:52Speaker 8: things I want to keep to the chest a little bit,
- 44:54Speaker 8: just because I just it's a people be having a
- 44:58Speaker 8: lot to say in a lot going on, and everybody
- 45:00Speaker 8: not built to deal with all of that.
- 45:01Speaker 2: And you don't know if that man got a whole
- 45:02Speaker 2: other family.
- 45:06Speaker 8: Exactly what he got and he don't got. Don't play
- 45:08Speaker 8: with me, That's what I did.
- 45:09Speaker 1: Oh that show boo boo, this is girl. How long
- 45:12Speaker 1: has it been? Boom? Can't even see that?
- 45:14Speaker 6: That bolls spot are like that sometimes?
- 45:18Speaker 2: She how long you've been with the man? She said, sometime.
- 45:21Speaker 7: I've been dating him for a while.
- 45:22Speaker 2: It's a while, Lauren.
- 45:23Speaker 1: You all in my business, and so you know about
- 45:27Speaker 1: the other people you're dating while you was dating.
- 45:28Speaker 8: Wow, when I met him, the people that I was like,
- 45:32Speaker 8: kind of have a conversation where we had that conversation. Yeah,
- 45:35Speaker 8: So how did you feel about that we weren't exclusively together,
- 45:38Speaker 8: like were he gonna you know what I mean? It
- 45:40Speaker 8: was I think more so because we were friends before this,
- 45:43Speaker 8: like he's not like a stranger.
- 45:45Speaker 7: He wasn't really focused on it.
- 45:46Speaker 8: I think he pulled up and understood, like, Okay, once
- 45:48Speaker 8: I'm here, I know all that is going to go
- 45:50Speaker 8: by the wayside. So let's just focus on each other
- 45:52Speaker 8: for real in this news space, not as friends.
- 45:54Speaker 5: And so how does men feel about that women dating
- 45:57Speaker 5: multiple dat?
- 46:02Speaker 6: I used to call her two nigga oh, because I
- 46:03Speaker 6: feel like you like, she's young, you know me and
- 46:05Speaker 6: she seeing the New York.
- 46:06Speaker 2: Now go have some fun.
- 46:08Speaker 6: But I just thought it was ridiculous when he took
- 46:09Speaker 6: her on vacation and put will you be my girlfriends?
- 46:13Speaker 1: You went out the country with damn sorry you saw it.
- 46:15Speaker 1: It was cute, but all the.
- 46:17Speaker 2: Way out of the country to get after you girl.
- 46:18Speaker 1: Absolutely, you better because this is what I think.
- 46:21Speaker 5: I think that you were supposed to date several and
- 46:23Speaker 5: mad and made the best man who steps up when but.
- 46:25Speaker 2: You done left the man sweat on you. So it's like.
- 46:30Speaker 3: Saying that happened before they were they were seeing each other,
- 46:37Speaker 3: but they were joking that. She said, you never asked me,
- 46:39Speaker 3: We just came to It just happened, and that was
- 46:41Speaker 3: his joke back, will you be my girl.
- 46:43Speaker 1: They were exclusive.
- 46:45Speaker 8: Still because I feel like even in my joke as
- 46:48Speaker 8: a person trying to figure out like how to go
- 46:50Speaker 8: into a relationship, because I was in a relationship young
- 46:52Speaker 8: and then it ended when I was like thirty thirty one.
- 46:54Speaker 8: So when I was single, I'm like, this is my
- 46:56Speaker 8: first time being an adult and being single. I don't
- 46:58Speaker 8: even know how you get back into a relationship at
- 47:01Speaker 8: this point. But we've had that conversation, and so that
- 47:04Speaker 8: was him being like, Okay, even if you don't know
- 47:07Speaker 8: and you're joking, I want to make sure you feel
- 47:09Speaker 8: as secure as you need to everything.
- 47:11Speaker 7: He's doing what you need to do. And Big Fatty
- 47:13Speaker 7: over the.
- 47:16Speaker 2: Fatty and your man built that's crazy.
- 47:26Speaker 1: Just ignore him. Big Events used to be Evince.
- 47:36Speaker 7: I met him and he was a really nice person.
- 47:38Speaker 1: But he's not even when you was with him, Teddy Repskins.
- 47:46Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not that, but he is a man. Though
- 47:50Speaker 7: I was hot.
- 47:52Speaker 1: No no, no, no no.
- 47:55Speaker 5: I was going to say, you know, I enjoyed my
- 47:57Speaker 5: Teddy Repskin era. I didn't think I wouldn't be able
- 48:00Speaker 5: to enjoy that.
- 48:00Speaker 1: But about it's okay to be.
- 48:05Speaker 2: That's what you said.
- 48:06Speaker 8: Think it's for me. It's not for me now, yeah,
- 48:09Speaker 8: I can do. He's not built like your ski. He's
- 48:11Speaker 8: just angry and.
- 48:13Speaker 5: He's happy for you.
- 48:14Speaker 1: He's just playing.
- 48:15Speaker 8: I think so too, because when I was and he's
- 48:17Speaker 8: super happy from inside and being.
- 48:23Speaker 2: Happy for her. I'm happy. When the man proposed and
- 48:25Speaker 2: they walked down, it's kind of.
- 48:31Speaker 7: Like that's all he did.
- 48:35Speaker 2: Make sure you walk down, that's all.
- 48:38Speaker 1: Yeah you need no, don't say that. It would have
- 48:42Speaker 1: been like five months, six months.
- 48:44Speaker 7: But I've known for years.
- 48:46Speaker 3: You know what the things they got to do, well
- 48:49Speaker 3: what I advise, live with each other, so you really
- 48:52Speaker 3: see the true meaning. You know, these conversations about bills
- 48:55Speaker 3: and finances and have that conversation about the future. How
- 48:58Speaker 3: many kids you want, how many kids he wants? You
- 49:00Speaker 3: need to have those conversations before you just get into it.
- 49:02Speaker 3: And I'm just saying have those.
- 49:04Speaker 8: Rushing But I am also like you know, I mean,
- 49:08Speaker 8: I'm I'm good, got him in a really great place.
- 49:11Speaker 1: But when I meet him, it's not going to be long.
- 49:15Speaker 8: I don't think it will even before you meet him.
- 49:16Speaker 8: If it was up to him, it wouldn't be long.
- 49:18Speaker 2: Yeah, heartbreak retrograde, which.
- 49:22Speaker 1: Have them love me everybody. I don't know. I don't know.
- 49:30Speaker 1: That's a couple of damn love me. I don't know both.
- 49:34Speaker 3: Okay, well, we appreciate you for joining us holidays and
- 49:38Speaker 3: thank you.
- 49:39Speaker 1: Happy holidays to the family. It's take on Braxton. It's
- 49:42Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Good morning, every day, Breakfast Club.
- 49:48Speaker 2: Finish, y'all done,