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George Carneal: Danger Of Leftist Ideologies, LGBTQ Influences · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  When young people become radicalized, what caused it?
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  How big of a problem is the LGBTQ agenda?
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  Government education, Hollywood, social media?
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  We don't need to be convinced that evil is real,
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  but how does it manifest through people today?
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  Can evil actions be traced back to a combination of radical ideologies and propaganda,
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  rejecting God in the Bible and the lack of salt and light from the American church?
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  We're going to discuss this and more with former homosexual,
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  now Christian author and speaker George Carneal next.
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  Welcome to World View Matters,
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  discussing controversial issues,
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  discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazo.
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  Thank you, friends, family and Christ.
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  We are so blessed that you're here,
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  that you've been sharing this podcast and praying for us.
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  You know, I've been in this battle for a couple decades,
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  and I know a lot of people are feeling the heat,
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  but we are not retreating or going back.
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  Some are regrouping, some have been re-energized.
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  I felt a new kind of stirring in my life and my heart,
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  and I'm praying over every episode,
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  that we would get the truth out,
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  that God would be glorified,
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  and that we would not back down.
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  So today's guest, George Carneal, author,
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  and he's got a great book out, friends.
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  I encourage, he's been on many, many times before,
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  but go to his website, GeorgeCarneal.com,
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  and the book is from queer to Christ,
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  and praise God, he's on the right side.
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  Now, brother, good to see you.
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  Thanks for your time today.
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  Good to be back, David.
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  Thank you.
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  So I opened up with some provocative questions,
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  because we want answers,
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  and believers in Christ want to know how to respond.
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  We're at a turning point.
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  I know a lot of people have said that,
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  but I think we're going to be saying that for quite some time.
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  How will this change, free speech,
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  Christians in the public square?
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  Will academia be held accountable?
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  Will the media, we were just discussing
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  before we got on the podcast?
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  Brief story, and then I'll ask you about your book,
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  and the heat that you took,
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  and I know you've shared this on a podcast here before,
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  when the book came out, when you started preaching Jesus,
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  instead of the LGBTQ lifestyles,
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  when I wrote my book, Eradicate,
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  Blotting Out God in America in 2011, I think.
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  I wrote that, and a relative cut me off,
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  and it was because one of the chapters was
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  the normalization of homosexuality.
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  That was one of the chapters.
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  It had become normalized through the decades,
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  and because of what I wrote in there,
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  biblically, and other things,
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  from a biblical standpoint, he got angry at me,
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  he called it hate speech.
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  That was, wow, I almost, what is 2011, do the math,
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  but that was 14 years ago,
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  and I'd been writing about that before then.
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  So imagine people now, after what happened to Charlie Kirk,
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  a lot of people in America, we realize,
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  believe wrongly, but they believe
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  that George, what you and I speak is hate,
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  because it's based on the biblical worldview,
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  your thoughts on where we're at,
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  and whatever you'd like to share to open up.
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  Anything that they don't like is deemed hate.
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  Even what Jesus said was deemed hateful,
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  and they didn't like it.
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  You just have to be bold, and as you know, David,
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  speaking truth and facts in this day and age
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  is already deemed your rebel.
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  And they hate it.
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  And you have to just speak the truth of God's word,
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  even my testimony, or whatever you are sharing.
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  Who cares?
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  You have to just plant the seed,
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  and the rest is God's problem,
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  and I don't worry about it.
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  I'm not going to acquiesce to the political correctness
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  and worry about hurting people's feelings.
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  You're damned if you do,
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  and you're damned if you don't, no matter what you do.
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  You just have to do it and say it,
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  and Christians need to get some guts,
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  because time is short,
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  and we need to be not only getting people to wake up,
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  but coming to no Christ.
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  We've talked about the public school system,
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  and how it is anti-Christ.
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  I don't know how I can be more clear.
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  I mean, friends, just listen to the heads of the teachers' unions.
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  It is just astounding the vile speech that they put forth
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  at the conventions and all that.
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  And so we're in a battle,
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  and we've reminded people over and over again.
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  This is spiritual battle first.
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  Our struggle is not against flesh and blood,
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  but George, here's where we all come in
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  as Bible-believing Christians.
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  That struggle, that battle is manifested in the natural.
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  We've seen it playing out over the decades in America.
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  We've seen, unfortunately,
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  Christians retreat from the public square,
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  because they're called hateful,
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  or homophobic, or whatever.
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  And so this is an opportunity.
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  I want you to share some of the reaction,
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  or some of the heat you took when you stood up,
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  wrote that book from queer to Christ.
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  I know you have a lot of stories,
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  just maybe condense that or share a few please.
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  Yeah, I wrote it just thinking,
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  well, my gay friends,
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  if nothing else will read it,
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  and maybe they will rethink their stance
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  and come to no Christ.
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  It was really done out of love,
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  and the book is not about attacking any communities,
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  just kind of throwing it out there.
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  I was really surprised at the backlash
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  and the number of people who just dropped me,
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  like your own family member.
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  But, you know, God brought me through it,
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  and I have to, at the end of the day,
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  I answered to him.
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  I don't answer to people.
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  I'm going to stand before him on Judgment Day.
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  And yeah, the call list was great,
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  but I don't sit around and wallow about it.
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  It's an honor to serve the Lord,
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  and I do want my LGBT friends,
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  and the LGBT community in general
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  to realize that they are being lied to,
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  that they can find freedom in Christ,
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  they'll never find real peace, joy, and satisfaction
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  in a world that is destructive and dangerous,
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  and that God's Word is clear that is an abomination,
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  and God certainly doesn't make mistakes
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  when assigning our gender.
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  So, I'm hoping they will wake up,
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  and then lastly, on the homeschooling front,
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  if you go to my website,
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  I think it's on page 20,
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  there's a lot of homeschooling resources
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  if parents want to reach out to those organizations,
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  I believe they will bend over backwards
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  to try to help lead and guide you
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  two ways to be able to move into homeschooling.
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  Believe me, you can't do any worse damage to your children
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  than what's already being done
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  in the communist Marxist school system.
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  These kids are coming out of the school system.
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  They're stupid, not all, but most.
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  They can't tell you, they can't read,
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  write, do arithmetic,
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  but they know every sexual position,
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  every sex toy,
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  every gender, they, them, pronoun, non-binary crap.
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  You can't do worse damage
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  than what has already been done to these children.
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  So, exactly.
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  Remember, when we were growing up,
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  it was Johnny Carson and then Jay Leno,
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  and he would go do those man on the street interviews,
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  he would go to maybe a high school graduation
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  or a college graduation,
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  ask them the most basic of questions
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  about American history or government.
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  Are there three branches?
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  You know, things like, and they could not answer,
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  but they knew all the things about Hollywood,
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  they knew what was trending on TV,
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  and then that, that has gotten worse and worse and worse.
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  So now, we're going to be talking about a headline
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  that should never get too far down
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  in your newsfeed, friends,
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  and that is that horrific attack in North Carolina,
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  Irina Zerutska.
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  Irina Zerutska, we're going to be talking about that.
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  That should not leave the news cycle, friends.
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  Don't let that leave the news cycle,
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  because that reflects on the spirit of lawlessness.
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  That reflects on Democrat policies
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  and of, you know, criminals have now become the victims.
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  It is insane, but George, let's start with,
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  we mentioned public schools.
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  We've talked a lot about that before and on this podcast.
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  But let's talk about the media.
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  I've been writing about the media for two decades
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  and the bias, and now they are activists.
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  They are not journalists.
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  Friends, don't, don't call them journalists anymore,
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  because most of them are activists for the left.
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  Let's go do a couple headlines
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  regarding the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
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  And let's dig into a couple of the facts, all right?
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  And then we'll talk about something that's concerning
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  that you brought to my attention, George.
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  So first headline, Charlie Kirk's alleged assassins,
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  transgender roommate, hates, conservatives, and Christians.
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  Now, this is not the shooter, the murderer.
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  This is the roommate saying this.
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  So he knew this, a family member also said
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  that this individual, Tyler Robinson,
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  became, quote, radicalized, and that whatever he was taking part in
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  at college, the groups, and especially online,
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  influenced his politics over the past couple of years.
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  So it didn't take long.
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  For this, he was apparently a good student
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  and for him to become radicalized.
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  So let's go to this next one.
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  Charlie Kirk's assassination suspect had furry fixation
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  and his trans boyfriend proclaimed support for Biden
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  on social media.
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  Well, George, first of all, can we clarify something?
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  Help me understand this.
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  If you're a biological male and you're in love affair,
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  romance with another biological male,
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  isn't that homosexuality?
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  Well, yes, but not according to liberals, you know,
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  you can understand the rationale of crazy.
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  So I guess if you throw on a dress, you're now a woman.
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  It's insane.
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  It would suggest to me that yes, he, that that is a homosexual relationship,
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  but they define themselves different ways.
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  And even that whole furry thing, you know,
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  believe me, it gets into a subculture of just crazy.
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  I could tell you stories.
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  We don't have time to tell you that.
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  Yeah, I believe you could, but isn't that interesting, though?
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  It's because they've made the transgender person,
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  or ideology, they are victims now.
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  That is a misunderstood, maybe under the banner of mental health,
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  or whatever, and a lot of them do have problems.
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  Gender dysphoria used to be a mental health issue, right?
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  I believe it was the American Psychiatric Association
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  that were pressured into changing that.
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  The status of mental health.
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  So now let's talk a little bit about the media, this next headline.
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  So we, anyway, you guys know a lot of the information about this shooter now that he just hated
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  Charlie Kirk. He hated the biblical worldview.
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  So the next one, Charlie Kirk's assassins motives remain elusive.
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  This was CBS News.
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  That was almost, that was a week, roughly, after the assassination.
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  So the assassins motives remain elusive.
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  And I've heard that on Communist News Network.
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  CNN, I've heard that there.
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  They're, oh, they, oh, we can't really say what,
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  and it's just your scratch in your head, but you, we know why.
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  Christian friends and family in Christ, we know why, that they are not.
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  George, your thoughts on the media, they are complicit in this.
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  And even some of the language, we reported on that last week,
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  some of the language that they were using, some of the lack of compassion for Charlie Kirk,
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  Erica Kirk now in her children and family and friends.
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  It's unbelievable. Go ahead, your thoughts.
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  You can't hate the media enough.
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  I absolutely love the mainstream media.
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  Here's the thing, David, remember back, you know, four or five years ago when COVID came out
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  and the, and Biden administration, you know, the, the left, they were canceling us left and
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  right, lie, calling us liars, you got to take the jab, you got to do this.
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  We want you canceled from society.
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  We'll shut you down.
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  You don't, you can't say what you want.
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  It's interesting now that the tide is turning and they are getting,
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  they are on the receiving end of being canceled themselves.
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  They're now, you know, crying about democracy or they're now the victims.
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  It's just interesting how fake hypocritical and two-faced they are,
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  that they are facing the repercussions of what they gave us for several years.
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  And I wanted to say with regard to, oh, you said something that was really,
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  oh, I wanted to say the issue with the trans individuals,
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  unfortunately, they're not, I don't think they have critical thinking skills.
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  If they would actually do the research and listen to the right,
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  those of us who really care about the trans community and just trying to sound the alarm
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  in saying, look, what you do is your business.
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  But at least listen to the medical professionals and the detransitioners
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  who are trying to warn that this is actually the reality of it.
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  We want them to know that you make sure you think this through.
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  But for some reason, they think everything is hate speech and you're not a victim,
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  just stop it.
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  We actually care about you and we care enough to tell you the truth.
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  They don't want to hear it.
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  So it's just easier to go shoot up people and, oh, I'm a victim.
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  Okay.
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  And by the way, that I have never been as patient and compassionate as Charlie Kirk
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  was in every interaction that I've seen.
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  I've never seen him get defensive or lose his temper or criticize or attack the other person.
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  It is unbelievable, George.
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  I could learn a lot.
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  You know, it's interesting.
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  I think a lot of young people are looking at his videos going, man,
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  how did he do it and look at that?
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  He wasn't hateful.
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  They know that because they're going
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  viral, those clips of him interacting with people, the debates, they're going viral.
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  And that organization is just going to balloon.
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  It's going to really grow like crazy.
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  They've already gotten, I mean, within five days, I think, they got over 50,000 requests
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  from high school and colleges to start chapters for Turning Point USA.
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  They're just, it's going to be insane what we're going to see.
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  But we have to recognize because this is a spiritual battle,
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  how do you think the left is going to handle that, George?
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  How do you think the media and those that are truly hateful and maybe those that celebrate
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  at his assassination and prominent Democrats?
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  How do you think they're going to react to the growth of this Christian and
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  conservative youth movement across the country?
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  Although label it white nationalist Hitler, they'll give it all the usual terms.
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  I think for me, David, my concern, and I'm not going to go off on another tangent or a different
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  path here, but my concern is who, I don't know if Ben Shapiro is taking over Charlie Kirk's place,
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  but my concern is who is going to replace Charlie and where are they going to take this?
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  Because we've got a lot of people who are trying to silence the whole message of Christ.
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  So that is a concern of mine, but I do hope the students are waking up and I am seeing clips
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  of those who are even liberal who are very disgusted by the celebrations of other liberals
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  celebrating this man's assassination and the fact that these two little babies are going to
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  grow up without a father. I know a lot of people now or even more are going to defect to the other
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  side and they're leaving the Democrat Party. So this is really going to blow up in the faces of
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  the Democrats. I think so too. I think more people are getting it and I just the fact that
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  so many surveys and polls are coming out with the young people. Generation Z are becoming
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  more interested in truth and spiritual things, more of them, especially now what we've heard
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  going to church and it's really sick in the truth. I think the Left over played their hand,
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  but let me go to, we're recording this, friends, a week after the assassination attempt or the
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  assassination of Charlie Kirk and my producer sent me this. The turning point board has unanimous
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  unanimous, unanimous elected Erica Kirk is the new CEO and chair of the board and Charlie expressed
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  to multiple executives that this is what he wanted in the event of his death. So that's strong,
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  bold Christian woman is going to be heading up turning point, you would say. I hadn't heard this.
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  That's good. We'll pray for her. Now, we've got to bring a little levity in here, George.
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  The media says, motives unclear of killer who wrote manifesto entitled, here are my motives.
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  The Babylon be there it is. Now, yeah, after the Senate, most people know the Babylon. I love them,
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  but they have a site that actually is truthful factual reporting. It's called not the B,
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  not the B, but this is satire, but it's sad how much satire is close to the truth. They have
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  the motive, they have a manifesto, they have evidence, they got DNA, everything else. We're not sure
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  who did it and what's the motive. Anyway, George, let's move now to something that you sent me.
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  And here's what we need to know. There's an organization or group of radicals called armed
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  queers, SLC, which is Salt Lake City. They are under investigation for possible foreknowledge
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  of Charlie Kirk's assassination. Now, Malone put this out. What is it, Robert Malone?
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  Yes. Yeah. So he put this out. It's called the enemy within. Tyler Robinson is Tran Tifa,
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  meaning he was supportive of transgenderism and Antifa. And he said domestic terrorism and left
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  wing violence. He put this over on Substack. So there is a graphic that says armed queers
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  Salt Lake City. Jeff, if you want to bring that up, there it is. So there's an article. There was
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  a lot of information. You can scroll down and he said, what do the inscriptions mean on the
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  bullets? It's very Antifa-like and hate. And so it's a very lengthy but important article.
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  But George, you said that you went and tried to get information on this radical group
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  that's trying to take the transgender groups militant, right? In other words, if they see hate,
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  they're going to use violence and they're arming themselves. This is a very real thing. How
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  much, how vast is it in America? We don't know. But you said they scrubbed a lot of that information.
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  Tell us what you know briefly. I hadn't even heard of the organization until this incident with
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  Charlie Kirk. But from what I understand, they're scrubbing a lot of information. So I've yet to
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  find a lot more information. But from the various social media sources that I go to, there are other
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  others like these militant trends, queer LGBT activists. They are calling for an uprising. And
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  one actually said that we conservatives have gotten a little too comfortable and we don't have
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  enough fear of them. And they want the fear ramped up. So these people are nuts. And I know a lot
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  of them are being reported to the FBI. People have got to really just be careful. Look over your back
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  just like the guy who stabbed the girl on the bus. You really have to watch your back at all times.
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  And if somebody calls you racist, let them. Sometimes you got to be a little racist, sexist,
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  bigoted homophobic. If it means you're safety and you're protection, watch your back at all times.
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  If you don't feel comfortable turning your back to someone who cares what people think. Take the
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  next bus, walk, do something else, take a skateboard, you know. And let's be clear friends. Let's
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  yeah. Yep. And let's be clear. We have not been given a spirit of fear as believers in Christ
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  who are born again. We have the Holy Spirit in us. That's a spirit of power, love, and a sound
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  mind. And we are to understand the spiritual battle. We read Ephesians six last week,
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  but taken up the full armor of God and these powers and principalities. Our struggle is
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  it's spiritual, but we're seeing it more and more now manifesting in the natural. I think
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  Satan knows his days are numbered. He may be responding to that. Who knows? We're getting
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  closer. We know we're in the last days. But George, another article here that's very similar.
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  Why is the media? This is over on sub-stack. This goes back to what happened in Minnesota. Why is
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  the media downplaying the Anunciation Shooter's motive? And I believe his name was Robin, a 23-year-old
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  who identified as a transgender woman. But he, I think he left behind a manifesto. And part
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  of that, we talked about this last week again. He said, I know I'm not a woman. And I don't know
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  what to do with that. He says, if I stop going in the direction I'm going, I'll have to admit failure.
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  So George, he was concerned that he'd have to, I don't know, admit that there is a God or the
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  biology is real and he was going against the truth and biology. So the media doesn't want to go
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  as much evidence as there is out there and whatever they leave behind because they're making this
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  group and this is part of Marxism, a victim group. Your thoughts on that? Yeah, people have to
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  understand the agenda, the narrative is going to be pushed. And people may not know that those who
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  are detransitioning will tell you that they have the trans activists actually threaten them and
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  tell them to shut their mouths. That's your story. That's not our story. They will even try to
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  silence them and these people have had their lives destroyed from the infections, the complications,
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  the botched surgeries. So I know there are a lot of facets to that particular guy's situation,
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  even with maybe his mother was kind of pushing him in that direction. It's just sad and unfortunate
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  that we can't reach them before they go down that path. Yeah. And here's, you know, part of the
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  battle, they become emboldened on the left and I don't want to label everybody on the left as
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  radicalized, but let's look at what's happening and face the facts. During the memorials for that
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  shooting in Minnesota, there were some trans flags. They were just they were trying to provoke,
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  I think, more violence. I don't know what they were doing, but they, you know, they're not backing
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  down. But our job is to continue to speak the truth regardless of the cost. And Jesus's Lord
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  truth wins in the end and he will return. And we have the victory in Christ. So we have to recognize
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  that. Before we go, we've got a couple more minutes left. We've got to go back to North Carolina
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  now and talk about that horrific attack. And that would be on the subway or bus there.
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  Irina Zaruzka. Now, this guy was arrested 14 times. So we're talking about lawlessness. We're
• 23:30
  talking about a criminal, a career criminal who just snapped. And so mental health might play into
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  this. But George, I've seen people try to make him a victim in this. And they're completely
• 23:45
  taken the attention off of this immigrant and her mother that moved, got away from the war and
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  Ukraine to come here. They moved North Carolina. And this is what happened to her riding home from
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  work one day. So the media does this is not convenient for the media. So what are your thoughts on
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  this real quick? I just want to say when I was saying watch your back. I wasn't trying to instill fear
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  as well. But I think got absolutely expects us to use some common sense. You have to use your brain
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  and just be aware of your surroundings. It's not about living in fear. But I've lived in Los Angeles
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  and I learned, well, as you know, David, you got to, you got to use some common sense. You don't
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  just drive into bad areas and just act like, oh, nothing will happen. You got to be smart. It's
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  just sad that the media, they have their own narrative. They're trying to divide us, whether it's
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  male against female, black against white or trans LGBT versus heterosexuals, Christians against the
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  Jews, whatever it is, it's all part of the communist Marxist playbook. You know, the only way I
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  know how to defeat it is is we've got to learn to unplug from the media, from the matrix. You know,
• 24:54
  cancel Netflix, stop watching Hollywood films, television shows, cartoons, even the sports when
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  they take the knee, going to concerts, stop going to movies, cancel and boycott all of it. Don't
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  support the sponsors. That's the only way that I think you can truly get their attention, David,
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  because if people want to know what they can do and they feel powerless, the bottom line is the
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  money. If you stop listening to them, stop supporting them and stop supporting the advertisers,
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  let their ratings plummet, let their subscriptions fall, cancel everything, get back to playing
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  board games or go for a walk, do something, spend time with family, have dinner or, you know,
• 25:34
  get a DVD of a movie or something and just watch it, an old one, of course. But there are ways,
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  there are ways to kind of fight back and not support this filth and this perversion and their
• 25:47
  narrative. There's one more headline we didn't get to this, we just have a couple minutes left,
• 25:53
  George, and going back to the education system and the culture and indoctrination by teachers,
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  why did so many teachers cheer the assassination of Charlie Kirk? And this is over at prophecy,
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  news watch, it's a wake up call for parents. Some of them were fired, some of them been suspended,
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  just some of what's been happening in the classroom should not be surprising because that's their
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  worldview. They start with a worldview without God that if you talk about social issues or sin,
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  it's hate speech, if you say Jesus is the only way that's, you know, radical or hateful. So
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  this is what's happening, George, just your final thoughts, you're the guest, you've got experience
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  with some of the radicals in the LGBTQ, it's not going away, but I think we're at a very
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  interesting time now. Go ahead. I just want to say real quickly, I can understand if you have gay
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  or lesbian loved ones and you want to support them, but this agenda is something where you can't
• 26:51
  cherry pick what you support or don't support. The whole agenda, this whole package has brought
• 26:57
  about this insanity upon our nation. It's okay if you love your gay and lesbian friends,
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  lead them to the truth of Christ, that they can find freedom in Christ. The rest of it is insanity
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  and it's in, we got to fight back. We've, I must absolutely stop this agenda and lastly,
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  you wouldn't believe what the teachers have been caught doing undercover on camera or what they
• 27:18
  admit privately. You have no idea. Get your kids out of the public school system.
• 27:22
  George Carneal, his book from queer to Christ, friends, fight the good fight of faith and
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  use Charlie Kirk as an example. Brother, thanks for your time. Good to see you.
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  Thanks David. God bless you and as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.