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Ian Furness 10/23 H1: A positive sign for College Football, Greg Cosell and ICYMI: Jarran Reed. · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: Well, because you worked with Chuck for all those years.
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  Speaker 2: Rays and Brewers in Milwaukee. It's game one. And some
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  Speaker 2: breaking news out of college football just moments ago. Jesse Legree,
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  Speaker 2: Oregon State freshman wide receiver, leads the country in touchdowns
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  Speaker 2: and yards. Announcing today he's staying at Oregon State. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: That is surprising.
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  Speaker 3: So he chose two mil.
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  Speaker 2: I think he did.
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  Speaker 3: Good for him.
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  Speaker 2: brought that news up, Jesse Legree. We talked about it
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  Speaker 2: briefly earlier this week. I know it's a Seahawks weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is a seismic shift in college football
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  Speaker 2: in a lot of ways. And why that is, I'll explain. But, yeah, Seahawks,
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  Speaker 2: But what the tape says, he can tell you that.
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  Speaker 3: And for that, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: The tape will speak to him. That's coming up 1220 today.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go. Just real quick on Jesse Legree. We'll get
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  Speaker 2: into this probably more next week, maybe even at 1 o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about his Danny, too. This is an interesting deal.
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  Speaker 2: When his dad put out the thing earlier this week, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we have a big announcement on Friday. He's
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  Speaker 2: got a bye week this week, I guess. Everyone's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to leave school middle of the season. That
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  Speaker 2: would have been real crappy. Enter the transfer portal and
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  Speaker 2: leave because that was the assumption.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just one more step in what is
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  Speaker 2: a broken system in college football where basically what you
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  Speaker 2: do is you sit out bowl games and And then
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  Speaker 2: you transfer and all those other things. I think there's
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  Speaker 2: even guys that have sat out, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 2: some playoff games in the CFP. And everyone figured, well,
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  Speaker 2: he's at Oregon State, G6 school, he's going to leave.
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  Speaker 2: Go take some money elsewhere. He can't go to the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: He's only a true freshman. He's got two years left.
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  Speaker 2: But he says, I'm staying. I'm staying at Oregon State.
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  Speaker 3: Good for him.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to get paid. There's all these, like, Ocho
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  Speaker 2: Cinco was out there, Chad Johnson. It was an Oregon
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  Speaker 2: State alum. Well, he's sort of an alum. He played
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  Speaker 2: for one year, went to one class. But he was there.
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  Speaker 2: He said, I'll pay him $ 2 million. I guarantee you
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  Speaker 2: this money is coming from the potato salad and tortilla family,
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  Speaker 2: the Reesers.
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  Speaker 5: The Reesers potato salad.
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  Speaker 3: They do make great tortillas.
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  Speaker 2: Great tortillas.
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  Speaker 3: And salsa, right?
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  Speaker 2: And really good salsa.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Really good potato salad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They're your tailgate friends, the old Reesers. I'm guessing that
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  Speaker 2: it's not just Ocho Cinco. I think it's kind of cool, though.
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  Speaker 2: I mean. He could have gone anywhere. Greg and I
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  Speaker 2: were talking about this. Here's the thing. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: those guys, there's different levels of football, of college football
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  Speaker 2: player and what they're seeking. I'm probably going to get
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  Speaker 2: into a little more next week because our old coach,
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  Speaker 2: Jimmy Rogers, has some stuff to say, which I thought
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  Speaker 2: was quite interesting considering it comes from a guy that's
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  Speaker 2: been to three schools in three years. But he had
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  Speaker 2: a good point. We're paying guys coming out of high
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  Speaker 2: school a lot of money that have proven nothing, proven
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  Speaker 2: absolutely nothing. And we're just handing these guys money. And
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  Speaker 2: there's no, you know, what have you. Legree's proved he
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  Speaker 2: can be the best wide receiver not named Jeremiah Smith
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  Speaker 2: in the country at Oregon State and under a first-year
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  Speaker 2: head coach for a team that was awful last year.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the interesting thing. There's guys that are going
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  Speaker 2: to get paid, and that's the only time they're going
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  Speaker 2: to get paid. I'm looking at you, DeMond Williams. You're
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  Speaker 2: not going to the NFL. You're 4'10. But then there's
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  Speaker 2: guys that are going to get paid in college and
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  Speaker 2: the NFL. Legree's one of those guys. It doesn't matter
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  Speaker 2: where you play. The NFL will find you.
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  Speaker 3: Well, especially if you're on a team that's doing well.
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  Speaker 2: But even not. Well, it's true.
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  Speaker 5: But Oregon State doing well and surprising people is definitely
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  Speaker 5: helping them.
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  Speaker 2: But, I mean, you look at the Seahawks roster. They've
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  Speaker 2: got all the Power 5 guys or Power 4 guys.
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  Speaker 2: Then they've got guys from North Dakota State, two of
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  Speaker 2: them starting on their offensive line.
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  Speaker 4: Right? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They'll find you. They've got a guy that plays for
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  Speaker 2: them that went to Montana in Montana State. And it, it,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. Uh, I believe Idaho has had a
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  Speaker 2: hall of famer. Like you'll, they'll find you and you'll
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  Speaker 2: get paid. That's right. If you're not going to go
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  Speaker 2: to the NFL, I can see going and get the
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  Speaker 2: most money and playing a big program. If you're not
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  Speaker 2: going to, if you know, you're not an NFL player,
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  Speaker 2: which is also laughable that guys that aren't NFL caliber
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  Speaker 2: players are getting paid seven figures. I mean, that's just
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  Speaker 2: a joke, but good for them. Make your money, do
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  Speaker 2: your thing. I'm just glad. Listen, as a Cougar fan,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to see this guy ever again. If
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  Speaker 2: he went and played at Oregon or at Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: and kicked the crap out of the Huskies and everybody
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  Speaker 2: else in Oregon, whoever it is, I'd be happy. But actually,
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  Speaker 2: I'm happier he's staying at Oregon State, and we've got
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  Speaker 2: to deal with him. Good for him. Good for him.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever you're getting paid.
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  Speaker 5: Good for the Beavers.
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  Speaker 2: Just good for a group of six. Good for college football.
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  Speaker 2: They took a chance on him.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it sets a precedent, too, that like, hey, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you guys can be real good and still be down here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like, hey, Cougs, you don't have to leave and go
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  Speaker 3: somewhere else.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the grass isn't always greener.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: John Mateer, how's that going at Oklahoma? They want to
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  Speaker 2: run you out of the state, fella. Like, yes, Cam Ward, good.
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  Speaker 2: John Mateer, not good. And there's examples like that all
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  Speaker 2: across the country. I'll give you one. I'll give you
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  Speaker 2: a really good one. Austin Mack was the backup here
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  Speaker 2: to Pennix. He was probably going to be the starter here.
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  Speaker 2: or at least compete with DeMond and City Falls, Kalen
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  Speaker 2: DeBoer to go to Alabama. He's got to wait a
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  Speaker 2: year with Ty Simpson. Well, how's that going now? Not well.
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  Speaker 2: You're the backup to a freshman. Is he a freshman
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  Speaker 2: or is he a sophomore? Anyway, yeah, Keon Russell. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you're a backup. Grass isn't always greener. So good for Legree.
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  Speaker 2: I like that. Okay. Oh, boy. We are so close
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  Speaker 2: to getting past the Kenny Walker Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, come on, counting down. On Monday, I want to
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  Speaker 3: only talk about how we stopped him.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I care about, too. I think every Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: fan is thinking the same thing. The perverse part of
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  Speaker 2: the nature of this business is that's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: There's going to be some other storylines. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: be getting into it, but we are so close right now.
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  Speaker 2: The reality of Sunday night football is this, though. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you will see and hear a zillion times. You will
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  Speaker 2: be throwing up whatever you're drinking, eating, imbibing in, whatever. Responsibly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: As the day goes on, every time you hear Chris,
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  Speaker 2: here's a guy in Ken Walker. Here's a guy. Here's
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  Speaker 2: a guy in Steve Spagnuolo. Here's a guy. You're going
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  Speaker 2: to go nuts. He's going to drive you insane. Yeah, probably.
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  Speaker 2: And the bigger storyline, honestly, because football is a team game.
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  Speaker 2: Seattle is 3-3, guys.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: That's the storyline that matters most. Yes, the one that's
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  Speaker 2: the most salacious, that people are going to be focusing
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  Speaker 2: in on, that everything about Sunday Night Football is going
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  Speaker 2: to be about. All of that is about what? It
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  Speaker 2: is about simply the following. Seattle is 3-3. I heard,
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  Speaker 2: who was it yesterday? Or was it, it might have
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  Speaker 2: been Florio. I think it was Florio the other day,
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  Speaker 2: and he had the great point. And we've been talking
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  Speaker 2: about this on this show. I've been talking about this
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  Speaker 2: forever since I got back to Seattle. The NFL is
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  Speaker 2: a very simple equation. You can't get past a certain
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  Speaker 2: number of losses in that right-hand column. And if you do,
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  Speaker 2: you are not going to playoffs, even as a wildcard team.
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  Speaker 2: I thought about this today. How fine a line is that? Well,
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  Speaker 2: the LA Rams are literally... three losses away the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the season from probably not being a playoff team.
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  Speaker 2: 10-7 is not getting you in in the NFC this
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  Speaker 2: year as a wildcard team. That means Seattle's four losses away.
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  Speaker 2: It seems weird to talk about college football all the time.
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  Speaker 2: You're one or two losses away from not playing for
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  Speaker 2: the CFP. But that's the difference in the two.
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  Speaker 5: Although, once they go to 24, you can have seven losses.
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State can go 6-6, they'll be in. Notre Dame's
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  Speaker 2: going to be 8-4 and be in. Perfect. But you
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  Speaker 2: get the point. This is a massive game against a
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  Speaker 2: really good football team. And oh, by the way, the
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  Speaker 2: team that they play next Monday night, just taking a
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  Speaker 2: quick peek, yeah, they looked good last night. They overcame
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  Speaker 2: a Drake May game. They looked good last night. So...
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm going to focus in on. We'll get
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  Speaker 2: to that. We've got Cosell coming up next. Stick around.
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  Speaker 2: Lots to talk about on this. Washington State Beef Commission
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  Speaker 2: football Friday next. All right, here we go. Greg Cosell
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  Speaker 2: joining us on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline as he does
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  Speaker 2: most every Friday. I say most every Friday because we
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  Speaker 2: had a week without Cosell last week. And I'll frankly
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  Speaker 2: say this, I didn't like it. I didn't like it
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  Speaker 2: at all. I did not like it at all. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't either, Ian.
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  Speaker 4: You know what?
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  Speaker 2: I missed you guys. We needed you last Friday to
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  Speaker 2: break down what the hell happened in... In Denver. That's
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  Speaker 2: what we needed. We needed a little Greg Cosell.
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  Speaker 4: I can briefly talk about that. I've definitely got some
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  Speaker 4: thoughts on that, as you might imagine.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's fire away before we get to this week.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think they're a little out of whack offensively.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that was a close game. And Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 4: dropped back more than 50 times. And that, I would assume,
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  Speaker 4: is not the way they want to play. And only
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  Speaker 4: six of those plus 50 dropbacks were play action. And
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  Speaker 4: that is something that is not seahawk football you look
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  Speaker 4: go back to last year when their play action pass
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  Speaker 4: game was among the best in the league and it
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  Speaker 4: was it was voluminous as well i mean that was
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  Speaker 4: foundationally uh how the pass game sort of started with
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  Speaker 4: sam donald under center and the play action pass game
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  Speaker 4: and by the way just so people understand uh it's
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  Speaker 4: been proven over and over and over that you do
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  Speaker 4: not need a great run game to have a play
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  Speaker 4: action pass game there is no there's no correlation between
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  Speaker 4: those two things It's been proven over and over and over.
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  Speaker 4: And people just keep saying that as if it's true.
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  Speaker 4: So I want people to understand that. But the point
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  Speaker 4: is they're clearly out of whack offensively. And, you know, look,
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  Speaker 4: they've had extra time now to try to self-scout. And
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  Speaker 4: you know that that's what Mike McDonald and staff are doing. But,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they need to get back to, I guess,
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  Speaker 4: what we would consider Seahawk football.
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  Speaker 2: The play action, we've talked about that with you as well.
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  Speaker 2: Is there part of it that's, It's not necessarily related
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  Speaker 2: to the actual run game, but the fact that they're
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  Speaker 2: out of shotgun so much and not under center a lot,
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  Speaker 2: does that kind of come into play?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, without question. Because to me, and I know there
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  Speaker 4: are many coaches that I've talked to that believe this
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  Speaker 4: for sure, and I'm a firm believer in it just
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  Speaker 4: from tape study for many years, that the play-action pass
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  Speaker 4: game is much more effective with the quarterback under center.
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  Speaker 4: Because don't forget, play-action is meant to cause conflict for
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  Speaker 4: certain players. usually second-level defenders. And when the quarterback's under center,
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  Speaker 4: it takes longer for the play to show what it is.
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  Speaker 4: So second-level defenders are in conflict longer. When it's shotgun
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  Speaker 4: play action, it happens immediately, and you don't get the
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  Speaker 4: impact that you want. So the teams that are really
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  Speaker 4: good with under center play action, and by the way,
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  Speaker 4: the Seahawks were one of the best a year ago,
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  Speaker 4: But you get teams like the Lions, the Bears. They're really,
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  Speaker 4: really good with under center play action because that's how
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  Speaker 4: you get the impact that you're looking for.
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  Speaker 2: The Sam Darnold conversation, Greg, as you can imagine, has
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  Speaker 2: been going on a lot this week. It went from
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  Speaker 2: last Thursday night, Friday morning of what the heck are
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  Speaker 2: we going to do? Let's get Drew Locke in there.
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald telling us on Friday we're not putting Drew
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  Speaker 2: Locke in. It's Sam Darnold. it's calmed down a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: but the numbers don't lie. He's struggling. He's throwing a
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  Speaker 2: lot of interceptions. Now, he did that last year. We
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  Speaker 2: understand that. That did happen. But are you seeing anything
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  Speaker 2: on tape, whether it's he's not seeing something? What are
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  Speaker 2: you seeing from Sam Darnold on tape?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, obviously his final interception last Thursday night
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  Speaker 4: was a bad one. That's indisputable. But he's being asked
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  Speaker 4: to throw too much, Ian. No quarterback can do that.
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  Speaker 4: It's too hard. I mean, he dropped back more than
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  Speaker 4: 50 times. There's no way that was their game plan. And, again,
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  Speaker 4: games play out and, you know, offensive coordinators call the plays.
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  Speaker 4: But no quarterback can function on any kind of consistent
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  Speaker 4: basis in this league the way it is now, okay?
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  Speaker 4: There's more and better pressure schemes. There's much more coverage
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  Speaker 4: change from pre-snap to post-snap. it's way too hard to
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  Speaker 4: ask your quarterback to drop back that many times. And
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  Speaker 4: to put it all on Sam Darnold, it's, look, I
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  Speaker 4: don't think anybody would say Sam Darnold's playing the best
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  Speaker 4: football of his career. I'm not here to defend Sam Darnold,
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  Speaker 4: but it's just too hard to ask a quarterback, any quarterback,
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  Speaker 4: to do that. And until they get a little more,
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  Speaker 4: and I hate to use the cliched word balance, but
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  Speaker 4: until there's more balance in their offensive approach and their
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  Speaker 4: offensive execution, it's going to be hard to play that way.
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  Speaker 4: You know, so it's, it's, it's not all Darnold. And
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  Speaker 4: I think the focus on him while I understand it,
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  Speaker 4: and I always understand it because people focus on quarterbacks,
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: but it's, it's just, it won't change if he's going
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: to be asked to throw that many times in a game.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: The, the, Greg Cosell joining us, his weekly visit. So Greg, let's,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: let's talk about the running game. They're going to get
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Zach Charbonnet back this week. And so that, that's a,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: that should be a little bit of a boost to
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: the running game. So it'll be sharp. Some combination of Charbonnet,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Emmanuel Wilson, George Helani, who knows what else I'll put
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: in there, but that's, that's what it looks like. Right.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: We've talked about this too, with Hugh and others and, and, and, and,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: you know, Ross Tucker and, and who I know, you know, well,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: and others and, You know, it's what they want to
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: do in the run game, right, with getting that wide
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: zone and stuff. I don't even know if Charbonnet helps
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: that much, but you've watched him play over the years.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, what can Zach Charbonnet do for this run game,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: which has just been anemic?
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Charbonnet to me is much more of
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: an inside grinder. But the point is, you do not
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: need a run game to be dominant. They don't have
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: to run for 170 yards a game. They need some
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: sustainability with the run game.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: That's the key.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Because the thing about offensive coordinators– is that they get
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: a little antsy if you run the ball and you
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: gain one yard and you keep doing that because then
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: they feel like we're not moving the ball so we
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: have to throw it. You know, that's the problem. So
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: they don't need a run game. You know, Charbonneau's not
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: going to break off 40-yard touchdown runs, nor is Emmanuel Wilson,
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: nor is Helani for that matter. But they just need
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: it to be somewhat sustaining so that– and, again, to
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: use another cliche but a true one, so they can
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: stay a little bit ahead of the sticks.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: You know, because ultimately your whole playbook is open when
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: it's second and five. When it's second and nine, you
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: start to feel like you're behind the sticks a little bit.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: So that's what they need. You know, they certainly don't
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: have an explosive back like they had with Kenneth Walker.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: And they knew that when they let him walk. I mean, obviously, Price,
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: they expected to be somewhat that guy. And he's on IR. And,
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: you know, it hasn't worked out so far. I would
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: expect it probably will over time. but he's a rookie
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: and he's on IR. So we'll see, but they have
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: to look, given their defense, they have to run the
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: ball because the likelihood is, and again, they're playing a
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: really good team this week and we'll get to that
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: in a minute, but the likelihood is in most games
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: and almost all games, Ian, the score is not going
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: to run away from them. The defense is really good.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: They're not going to be down 24 to nothing in
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: the second quarter. So there's no reason that they can't
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: stay with some sort of offensive balance.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I was laughing when you said how offensive coordinators get
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: antsy with a one-yard gain. I know it was college,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: but you know the first guy I thought of? When
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Mike Leach was coaching in college in the Air Raid,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: And we used to talk about this all the time
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: as Wazoo people, you know, like he'd like, okay, I'm
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: going to run the ball on first down. I'm going
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: to get two yards. And that was like, that was it.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: That's like the last run for the next 35 plays.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Like Mike, throw his arms up in the air. That's it.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: We're just going to, we're going to aerate at this point.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: And, and, and, and believe me, that's, that's a difficult thing.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: I'm not a coordinator and I'm pretending to know how
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: they feel, but you know, that's what happens a lot
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: is you just feel like, gee, we're banging our head
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: against the wall. But, see, that's the run game. Even
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: with good backs, you know, the run game could be
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: you gain two, you gain three, you gain minus one,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: you gain nine. You gain minus one, you gain three,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: you gain eight. You know, you don't gain eight every
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: time you run the ball, no matter who your backs are.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Craig Cosell with us. All right, so this week– actually,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: one more thing on Seattle, what you're watching, because this
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: is another topic. Is the offensive line– struggling? Is Abe
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Lucas struggling? Are they asking them to do some things
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: that are difficult and challenging? We saw Zabel get beat
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: a couple times. He's trying to do some reach blocks,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: and it seems like it's just... being put in a
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: tough position.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Well, they are if you're asking them to pass block
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: that much, because keep this in mind. Pass blocking is reactive.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Run blocking is proactive. When you're being asked to pass block,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: you're basically stepping back.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: You're reacting.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: When you're run blocking, you're firing off the ball. Offensive
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: linemen much prefer to fire off the ball. I mean,
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: that's just human nature. You know, I think I'm not
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: charting every offensive lineman, Ian, so I'm not going to
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: sit here and say something I don't know because I
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: don't do that, as you well know. You know, I
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: would say just watching the tape, and this is purely anecdotal, okay,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: so I hope people understand that. You know, I think
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: there's been some– I think Zabel's had probably more bad
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: snaps than I remember seeing last year. Now, again, I'm
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: not sitting here saying he's having a bad year. I
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: would never say that because I'm not charting every play.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: But I have seen a few more bad snaps than
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: I would have expected. They're still rotating at the right
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: guard position with Haynes and Stevens. Now, I don't know
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: how they're charting each player and evaluating each player. I
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: think most coaches would tell you they prefer not to
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: rotate at the offensive guard position. But they're doing so,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: and they feel that's the best way to do it
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Great. Go sell with us. All right. The Kansas City defense,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: before we get to their offense, and we're almost burying
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: the lead because I know they've got a running back
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: for Kansas City that people are talking about in Seattle
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: this week, but we'll get to him in a second.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: The Kansas City defense, if nothing else, we know this,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: they lost their two top corners in the offseason. They're
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: both playing for the Rams right now in McDuffie and Watson.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: What do you see on tape from that Kansas City defense?
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they drafted the rookie corner out of LSU,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Mansoor Delane. I think he's playing well. They've got a
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: second year corner, Noel Williams, who plays the majority of
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: the snaps on the other side, although they also play
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Kristen Fulton at outside corner, who's been in the league
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: quite a while. I think they're solid on the back end.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: They play a number of different people. They play Gilman.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: They play Connor. They play Hicks. You know, there's a
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: number of players they play on the back end. They're good.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: And the linebackers, Bolton and Tranquil, basically never come off
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: the field. And they're both really, really good players. So,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: you know, they'll play nickel. They'll play dime. They didn't
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: play a ton of dime last week. They're playing less
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: dime this year than we're used to seeing from Steve Spagnuolo.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: They're getting, you know, really good play. They, in a sense,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: play two nickels. They play big nickel and they play,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: you know, conventional nickel. So, so they're, they're, you know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Steve Spagnuolo has always been a tough guy to play against. So,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: you know, it's, it'll be an interesting game for an
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: offense that, you know, has been struggling and has had
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: time to sort of sell scout. We'll see. I mean,
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: you know, and their D line's been solid. They have this, uh,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I think second or third year player, Ashton Gillette, uh, Gilotti,
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: who's played.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Really, really well.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Um, he's kind of like Karloftis. They're very similar players. Um,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: So they're good. This is not an easy defense to
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: play against, both in terms of personnel and tactics.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: We're going to play the drinking game in Seattle. You're
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: busy working. We're going to play the drinking game in Seattle.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: How many times do we hear Chris Collins say, here's
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: a guy, Steve Spagnuolo, and then we'll see about 1,000
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Steve Spagnuolo cutaways on the sideline because he's like his
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: favorite guy in the world. So we'll be playing that one.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: The other one will be, here's a guy, Ken Walker.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: You might have heard of him. You might have heard
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: of Ken Walker. And, Greg, you'll find this stunning to believe.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: There's been a little bit of chatter in Seattle this
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: week with the running game we just discussed not being
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: good for Seattle, Price being hurt, Charbonnet out, all that stuff.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Why is Ken Walker not here? He's in Kansas City
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: last I checked, and he's having a pretty good season.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the thing is, who would have thought, knowing
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Andy Reid's history, and obviously I've been here in Philadelphia
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: for a long time, and there was always a knock
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: on Andy Reid that he wouldn't run the ball. Well,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: this year they're running the ball, and they're running it
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: quite a bit on first down. And they've been phenomenal
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: on first down. Now, they're primarily a zone team on
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: first down. They run to the strong side, meaning the
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: tight end side more so than the weak side. And
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: they tend to run to the left side of the offense.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: And one of the reasons they do that is because
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: the right guard, and I'll try to paint a picture
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: so people can see it, because the right guard is
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Trey Smith. He's probably one of the two or three
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: best right guards in football. And when you run zone
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: to the left side, What your right guard has to
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: be able to do is what we call backside cutoff blocks.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: They're very, very hard to do, okay? Trey Smith is really,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: really good at that. So that really helps your run
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: game because in his own run game, your back does
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: have options to cut back when he sees a gap.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: And if you can't cut off the backside, then you
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: can't have his own run game. And Trey Smith is really,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: really good at that.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: And that seems to fit what Walker likes to do, right?
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. I mean, he's an explosive back. You know,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: he's got some he's got major juice to him. You know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: he's had a great year. I mean, he's a good runner.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: You guys saw that in Seattle. You know, so obviously
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: they made a decision. And, you know, then you got
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: to live with it. I mean, that's that's the way
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: it works in the league. You can't sign everybody. You know,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: it's it's and first of all, a lot of people
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: would say that it was the right decision because backs
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: tend not to have a long shelf life. And he's
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: obviously having a phenomenal season. And no one can argue that.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: And because of Seattle's struggles running the ball, it just
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: amplifies it and makes it worse.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. We're five games in. And, you know,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price has been hurt. So that's one thing. They're
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: trying to get Rashid Shahid more involved in the offense,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: which people want to make the comparison of, you know,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Walker and Shahid and picking one over the other. I
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: don't think it was that simplistic, but. And you said it.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's see what Walker does the rest of
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the season and into next season. Let's see what Jared
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Arian Price does. Jared Arian Price does over the next
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: two seasons as well. I do know this. Walker in
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: that offense, in that run scheme, as you just said,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: it fits like a glove with what Andy Reid and
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: what they want to do. Eric Biannimi coming back, right?
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: It seems like he's made a difference to that team
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: too in that run game. And then there's a guy
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: that's pretty good at quarterback too coming off an ACL.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes, what are you seeing from him on tape?
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's playing as well as he has
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: in the last two, three years. He's playing so much
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: more decisively within structure. Now, we know Mahomes is phenomenal
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: extending plays. He has unbelievable spatial awareness. He can always
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: make plays outside of structure. He just has that vision
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: that is just uncanny. You know, you can't teach that
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: kind of thing. But, you know, they've not– over the
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: last three years, not counting this year– Their offense was
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: not great. They only averaged about 22 points a game,
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: which in today's NFL is not a big number. And
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: it seemed like every good play that he made, and
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: I know I'm exaggerating, but I'm trying to make a point, that,
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: you know, many of his good plays came outside of structure.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: And while he's great at it, that's not a world
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: you can live in every single week. And you know that.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, you can't play like that every single week.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: This year, I think he's played exceptionally well within structure.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: His timing is better. He's decisive getting rid of the football.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: their offense just seems so much more timing based and rhythmic.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: It looks very good to me. And I think Patrick
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Mahomes is playing really, really good football right now.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: There's gotta be a correlation between Mahomes that you're just
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: describing and the fact that they can run the ball
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: and they've got an effective run game as opposed to
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: whatever it was, Kareem Hunt, Isaiah Pacheco, whatever the last
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: few years.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, again, I'm not, I'm one person, so I
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: can't make these kinds of studies, but I think that
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: would probably be anecdotally. That would seem like it would
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: be true. I mean, Kenneth Walker's averaging 6.1 yards a
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: rush on first down. So think about that. So that
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: means on average, you're at second and four. That changes
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: everything for an offensive coordinator. Everything. You can do whatever
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: you want, you know, and so the playbook is wide open.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: So there has to be a correlation, again, without, you know, teams,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm one person, teams have, you know, 20
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: guys doing this kind of stuff, you know, so. But yeah,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: it makes sense that everything is just more comfortable for
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: a quarterback in those situations.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Second and four, as opposed to second and nine, as
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: we discussed earlier, then you're not getting antsy as a
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: play caller. No, you're not at all. You're not at all.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Because you know what? On second and four, five yards
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: is a nice game. You just got a first down.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: The.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: One of the most amazing things, if we'd want to
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: take the pop star wife out of it and the
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: cutaways of her in the suite and all that stuff,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: all due respect to the Swifties out there. Travis Kelsey's
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: on the verge of making history. He's climbing up the
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: charts in terms of all times receiving yards for tight
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: ends and numbers. Every game I watch, I'm mystified. I'm
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: absolutely blown away. by the fact that this dude at
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: his age, he's not the fastest guy by any means.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: He's not the biggest, strongest by any means. He's always open, Greg,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: he's always open. And they've got another really good tight
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: end and gray too. Like they, and that's, that's been
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: kind of a, that's been an Achilles a little bit
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: for the Seahawks, whether it was Peter, even to Mike
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: McDonald is that tight end down the seam. That's a concern.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: You know, it's funny because I've watched tape of, you know,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: many teams, obviously. And, the, the, the offenses that there
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: are offenses that do such a good job with their
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: route concepts, particularly against zone man is different as you know,
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: because then it's, you got that guy, but, but, you know, again, zone,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: it has to do with your route concepts, your spacing,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: how you can put defenders in conflict. You know, and
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: when I watch, you know, a Ben Johnson offense, when
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: I watch the lions are still really, really good at that,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: you know, Andy Reed's been good at that for years
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: and years and years, you know, that's what happens a lot.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: It's just it's the route concepts. I mean, I just
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: did a piece in the matchup show that for this week, actually,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: I forgot because I did the piece earlier in the
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: week and it's Friday and I realized, wait, the show
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: hasn't aired yet. But, you know, on the Lions pass
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: game and, you know, I'm sure you'll take a look
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: at it and you'll see exactly what I mean about
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: how route concepts just break down coverage. You know, zone
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: coverage is what I'm talking about. And, you know, it's
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: always easy for people to say, well, double this guy,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: you know, on every play. You know, and without going
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: into the reasons why you can't, you can't. You know,
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: there are times you can, but you can't do it
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: on every play. And the other thing that Kelsey is
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: phenomenal at, and this you cannot teach, is he just
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: has an unbelievable feel for working with Mahomes when Mahomes moves.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: And that's something that, you know, it's like a point
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: guard in basketball. You can't teach guys to see the floor.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Some guys can, some guys can't, you know, and, and
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Kelsey just has that unbelievable feel to work with my homes.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable spatial awareness.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of talk here like, Oh,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: you know, even worry and he's going to have to,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: you know, man up on Kelsey or whatever. I, that's
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: not how they play necessarily.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't think they do that.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: No, they, they, they don't look, you never know. They've
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: had extra time. They're doing a ton of self-scouting. Could
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: you see something different from Seattle? Um, yes, you certainly could. And,
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: and maybe for this opponent, because the reality is they're
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  Speaker 4: three and three, so they need a win. Um, uh,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: so could they play more man coverage this week? They
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: sure could. And it would be a minority. Um, But
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: normally they're a zone team that plays at a very
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  Speaker 4: high percentage of too high shell structure, too high safety structure.
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  Speaker 4: That's the way they normally play. And they've got a
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  Speaker 4: safety in love who is as savvy and smart as
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  Speaker 4: any in the league. Okada is a really good player.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: He's similar, not as good, but similar. You know, so
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  Speaker 4: they do blitz on third down, though. I mean, that's
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: something that they do do. So we'll see if they
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: change up, you know. I'm always curious when teams either
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: come off a bye or a Thursday night game in
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: which they didn't play well and wonder if, hey, are
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: they going to change some things up? Because the coaches
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: have that extra time to self-scout.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell just dropping the older 3-3 on us. And
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: you know what we say here in Seattle with the 3-3?
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: It's better than two and four, which the Rams are
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: right now. That's all we say.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's true. I mean, I believe that math would
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  Speaker 4: be correct.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm known for my math, Greg. I'm known for that.
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  Speaker 2: As you know over the last 15 or 16 years.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Great stuff. We missed you last week. Great
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  Speaker 2: to have you back on, my friend. Hopefully we're talking
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: about a... what would it be a four and three
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  Speaker 2: Seattle team next week for us here in Seattle, but
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: we'll go.
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  Speaker 4: And then, and then, you know, this is going to
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: be fun for us to keep talking because then they
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: got Chicago coming in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Good times. We're going to talk about another great offense
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: rolling in here. They looked okay last night. So they came.
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  Speaker 4: Their quarterback is playing really well, by the way, really well.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Caleb, Caleb had it going. We'll check in with
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: you next week, Greg. Thank you. All right, thanks, Ian.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: That's a great, great co-sell. Coming up, Danny O'Neill, the
• 32:39
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• 32:56
  Speaker 2: great stuff there from our man, Greg Cosell. Only the tape.
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  Speaker 2: He can only tell us what the tape tells us.
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  Speaker 2: And the tape tells us it's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: tough one on Sunday, Ashley. It's going to be a
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: tough one on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: The tape didn't need to tell me that. I had
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: an idea.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Did you have that already nailed down?
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  Speaker 4: I had that idea.
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  Speaker 5: But I guess it was from tape, though.
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  Speaker 3: Previous tapes.
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  Speaker 2: It was from previous tapes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Greg's on to something. It's like that guy knows
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: what he's talking about or something.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: He is on for something. We'll get the injury report
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: here probably in the next 10 or 15 minutes and
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: get some news in terms of, I don't think there's
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: going to be anything earth-shattering. We'll see. But we'll get
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: that coming up in a second. Ken Walker, this season,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: 665 rushing yards. He's number two in yards after contact
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: this season. It's kind of remarkable. What he's doing, the
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: workload he's handling. We'll see if that continues. By the way,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: that's 362 yards more than Seattle's leading rusher, who's Emmanuel
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Wilson this season.
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  Speaker 3: So that's not ideal.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: That's really not ideal in any way, shape, or form.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes having another. I thought what was telling there, honestly,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: is when Greg was telling us that Pat Mahomes is
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: having one of his better seasons.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Ugh. Which is interesting because it's so under the radar.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: It's very under the radar right now.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like nobody's sitting there talking about how great Pat
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: Mahomes has looked this year.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: It's all about what Walker's doing.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: You know, and to a certain extent, their defense as well.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: You know, their total defense is eighth in the league.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: We talk about Seattle's total defense is number one. Their
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: total defense is eighth, if that matters to you. I mean,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: their rush defense is number six. They're only averaging, allowing
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: 88 yards a game. Yuck. I don't like that. They're passing.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: They're averaging 217 allowed per game. Points allowed. They're only averaging,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: allowing 16 points per game. That's second in the league. Seattle,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: by the way, is seventh. Now, the numbers that are
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: included in that include like pick sixes. That's why Seattle
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: would be probably higher if not for those pick sixes
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: along the way. Mahomes has been sacked six times this season.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Seattle quarterbacks have been sacked twice. 16 times this season.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I was going to say like 60. It's got to
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: be a lot.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: It feels like a lot. It may feel like 60,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: but it's only 16. I guess the good news is
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: they're at least even in the sack category because the
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Seahawks have 16 sacks, but they have allowed 16 this
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: season as well along the way. Too many penalties. It's
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: just been a.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, the penalties have been a big one.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 47. Just among the worst in the league.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: They.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Everything about this game is interesting because on paper, you're
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: thinking this is probably the sternest test they've had this season.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: That includes the 49er game. And there's a desperation element
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: to it that comes into play for Seattle as well. I.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: I.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Um, but yeah, it's a tough one. It's a tough one. This, uh, this, this, this, uh,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: this coming up tonight, uh, or Sunday, I should say.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: The day before the day before it is the day
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: before the day before.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Uh, Daniel Neal is going to join us at one
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: 20 today. Uh, we'll check in with him from the
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: dang apostrophe. I haven't talked to Danny for a while.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: So looking forward to that conversation at one 20 this afternoon,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Rob rang is at two o'clock booze news at two 45. Uh,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: your talk backs and texts are welcome. Four, nine, four, five,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: one talk backs. Of course, go to the red. I
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: heart radio app or podcast. I always say the red app.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: It's the red microphone on the iHeartRadio app, but the
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app is red.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: It's red. Yeah, the icon's red.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: It is red. So you can go there as well
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: and find all that stuff there for you as well.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Much more to come. We'll get ready for the weekend next.