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Remembering Mike Gallo: A Magical Legacy #190 · The Magic Guys

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They're guys. They do magic. They are the Magic Guys.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 190 of the Magic Guys.
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To my left, I got this cool cat, Nick K.
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Oh no, we can't hear him. Nick, you gotta fix whatever you just pulled out.
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Down below, we got Doug Kahn. Oh, he's back.
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What's up? Hey, y'all. Nick, how you doing? You back, Nick?
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I'm back. I don't know what's being so problematic. We invest in the best equipment
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to give you guys the best show possible.
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And there has been some updates to the stream software we use.
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I chose not to name it then so we don't slander anyone.
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So it is good to be here. It is now working. Are we good?
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We are good to go. And it's great to see all our friends in the chat.
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Yeah, we've had such a roller coaster. So this, the first half an hour before
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the podcast goes live is pretty wild, but you know, and we see some of our friends
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in the live chat before even live, which is cool as well.
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Cause if you're listening to this post stream, you could have been here live
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and you could have inputted your questions and feedback and comments, especially today.
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I'm hoping we're going to get a lot of comments of people having learned from
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this person and, and seeing this guy work, but you know, Nick,
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who we got in the chat today?
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What friends? Well, we have a starter from a tippity top.
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We have a good friend, Thomas Conger, Scott Link, Tim Askin,
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them questions. Our good friend, Scotty P.
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Good to see you all here, friends. And it's always good to see you too there.
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We have Chris Layden and good friend, Gutbuster Mike.
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Guys, if you're in the chat, say what's up and ask what questions you have in
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the story. I did do my diligence.
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I didn't include every single thing we found. The report got kind of long.
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So I peeled it back on the person that we spoke about today.
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Now, I did want to mention this last week, but basically that when I went to
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bed that night and we were interviewing last week's guest, which was Samuel
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Osborne and a great street performer from the UK.
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The news that one of the greatest coin guys in existence had passed.
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And that, of course, that brilliant person is Mike Gallo.
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I didn't choose to bring it up on last week's episode out of fear of pulling
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down the excitement of us having Samuel on there, but a week has passed since then.
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And I felt pertinent for us to take a
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moment to celebrate the wonderful life
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of Mike gallo and the beautiful magic he sort
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of inspired now doug before we jump into the report the
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gallo name has been in magic for a while yeah man
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i'm flashing you say that and i'm like thinking about like micah mars encore
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two i think lou gallo had the gallo pitch in there of course mike's father lou
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gallo known as the underground man kind of kind of the way mike was too right
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he's like maybe not the most mainstream name,
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but if you know who Mike Gallo is and what he does, you know,
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he does it all, does the stuff. Anyway.
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Yeah. He's been in the Gallows had been in my universe from the beginning. That's 40 years for me.
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And, uh, my, her 30 of that.
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Wow. Yeah. And I'll also touch on as well. We're going to go through what,
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what Nick has, has so lovely gone and reported, but I did also see the YouTube
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channel conjurer community put out a wonderful session talking about Mike Gallo's
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work as well, which is worth checking out.
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And I might even link it after this in the description.
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So you can really speak on that. Cause I was at that full session for the conjure
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community and you'll find some excerpts from the event on YouTube,
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which is what you're going to link to.
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It's actually a multi-day lecture that Mike did for this group.
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So this is a membership site conjure community. And if you're a member there,
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You have access to this two-day lecture each lectures seven two to three hours
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long It's all the great mike gallows stuff and this was like about a year and
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a half ago Maybe two years.
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So what a joy it was for just to see him do all that stuff, but a great resource
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to see Mike's later thoughts, his most recent approaches.
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How amazing is it to have video form now where you can capture people's thoughts
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and you can see their little nuances on routinings and performing to last on forever?
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Amazing. I was lucky to see him a couple of years ago too. This is his 2022 lecture.
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He was at the Golden, the Gator Gate Gathering. And yeah, these are some of
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his notes. These are not card magic. So this gives you an idea.
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Like this is all like ball and vase, dice magic, teacup routine.
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Does that say, does that one that you're holding in your right hand say pizza?
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Coin magic for pizza and smokes, you know, and soda.
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Damn. I got to know what pizza magic looks like.
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That's what happens at 3 a.m at the sessions you know
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at the gator gate gathering it's also what
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happens in the middle of a podcast when 10 pizzas get delivered to your home
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yeah i hope that's happening today here not the
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last episode whatever that one was yeah all right nick take it away my friend
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i'm keen i'm excited let's begin mike gallow born october 1st 1955 was an American
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magician best known for his mastery of close-up magic,
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particularly in coin manipulation.
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Born and raised in the Bronx, New York, he was introduced to magic by his father,
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Lou Gallo, an accomplished magician.
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Growing up in a magical household, deeply influenced magicians,
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Sorry, growing up in a magical household deeply influenced Mike's trajectory
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in the world of magic, and he quickly became a renowned figure revered by peers and students alike.
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Now, Mike's father, Lou Gallo, was not only a magician, but a pioneer in sleight
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of hand, especially known for his Gallo pitch technique.
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Lou's passion for magic inspired Mike to start learning magic tricks at a young age.
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And under his father's guidance, Mike honed his craft. And by the time he was
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a teenager, he was already performing in magic circles and developing his own
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style, which focused heavily on close-up magic.
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While much of his early knife remains private, Mike's dedication to magic and
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the craft was evident from his young years, leading him to become one of the
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most influential coin magicians of his generation.
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Now, what I wanted to touch upon there is that he used to kick around with people
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like David Roth, Jeff Lada, and Mike Rubenstein. So that's the sort of realm he kicked around in.
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And if anyone knows CoinMagic and knows David Roth, those guys were like, those guys were homie.
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Does it make sense? I'm peeking over at Conjuring Archive for some credits here.
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And Mike Gallo is listed in the Encore 2 books I mentioned earlier.
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So indeed, his influence does go back to those early years.
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What was this? Encore 2 1981, it was published. I might've been reading it in 1984.
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So yeah. Wow. And yeah, in these same issues, you will find,
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you know, these, these encores have all the contemporaries you're talking about.
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And as a segue too, cause Nick, sorry, you go Nick.
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No, I was just going to say like, I was born in 1984 and Josh,
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you would have been what? Sperm?
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I was still, yeah, I was still sperm. I was just a little spermy boy.
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Couldn't, couldn't, couldn't do anything. Couldn't palm, couldn't JW grip, nothing.
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Just a little swimming boy. But we segued, you talked about the Gallo pitch
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and that's the thing that I know about Mike Gallo is that the Gallo pitch that
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Doug was saying his father Lou invented is the thing that, that goes around in my,
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my head when I hit Gallo. And we were just talking about it earlier.
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Doug hasn't done it for a while, but he's definitely studied the work.
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How do you feel about demoing? I feel horrible about it, but put me on.
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I'll tell you what I know about it. It's kind of a handling of the Hang Ping
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Chen, which the Hang Ping Chen is a popular coin move that involved this kind
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of action of showing coins and throwing them to the table.
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It works, but it's a little bit unnatural and this is not kind of the way that
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you handle coins. So Lou Gallo devised this pitch technique where you'd show
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a couple of coins here and then like a couple of coins here.
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Bloody hell. I'll try it again. So it's working from palm up like finger palm styles.
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And we're going to throw this way and this way a little bit.
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So you would show these here.
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And then as you imply to throw these here.
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And that is the nature of the Gallo pitch. unrehearsed
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and it's probably been about 15 years since i've
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even tried that but can i can i just say like we
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talked about this earlier and doug's like oh no i can't do it give me
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a second i'll practice it and you just like for my eyes
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that looked perfect on video it's a great technique right it's not like it's
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hard to do it's more of a timing thing right so it's not like physically challenging
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i think the term is simple but not easy yeah right and if you're listening to
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this it's worth going to watch just this portion of the pod to see what Doug just did.
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And where, like, do you know where someone can go and study that, Doug?
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I'm thinking those encore books must have been where I learned the Gallo pitch.
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I'm not sure that's the first place they were printed, but there's also Lou
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Gallo's book, The Underground Man, which Richard Kaufman published.
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And honestly, I don't recall having read this book. I don't know why,
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but it's one of the rare Kaufman titles.
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I haven't read, but I bet it's in there. It's Luke Gallo's book.
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Okay, love it. One of the things as well is that Lou was really into doing things
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on video, and we'll cover that body of work that he released in DVD format and so forth.
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So we'll touch upon that a little later on in the story.
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But talking about these sort of influences, let me tell you guys a little bit
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about what I know about Lou Gallo, Mike's father.
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So Lou Gallo, Mike Gallo's father, was a highly respected magician known primarily
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for his contributions in close-up magic, particularly in coin magic.
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He played a significant role in shaping Mike's career, both as a mentor and
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a source of inspiration.
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Now, Lou Gallo, like many magicians, began his career at a very early age,
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and he was deeply involved in the magic community and quickly built a reputation
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for his innovative slider hand techniques.
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While much of Lou's personal life remains private, and that's some of the difficulties
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I had in my research, there was nothing about his wife.
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I mean, the only reason why I know he has a wife, Linda, is due to a post,
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which I'll mention later on, but his main life in focus was the magic.
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His dedication to magic is well documented by those who knew him and by the
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legacy of tricks and routines he passed on for the next generation of magic.
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Now, one of Lou Gallo's most significant contributions, as we just spoke about, was the Gallo pitch.
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This technique became widely known in the magic community and was considered
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as a cornerstone for coin manipulation.
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The Gallo pitch involves a visual illusion where a coin appears to be tossed
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from one hand to another.
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While it is secretly retained in the first hand it is a brilliant example of
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misdirection and sliding hand allowing magicians to control an audience attention
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and create a convincing illusion this technique remains a staple in the repertoire
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for many coin magicians today.
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And i think that for what doug you
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displayed i think it'll look gorgeous as well like there i saw
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a couple other videos of magicians performing it over the
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past week since his passing and so forth and i think
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yours is the best i've seen so far so thank you for sharing that
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with our audience now thank you i'm poking around the interwebs trying to find
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the first place it was it was in apocalypse volume one number four that's where
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lou gallo first put that in print so if you have the harry lorraine apocalypse
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books or you know the bound volumes go digging in there for lou gallo or the book yeah.
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Now, moves aside, Lou Gallo was not only an influential performer,
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but a mentor to many, including, of course, his son, Mike.
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He taught Mike many nuances of close-up magic, emphasizing the importance of
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smooth, natural movements and seamless sleight of hand.
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Lou's influence on Mike is clear in the younger Gallo's fluid, effortless style.
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And anyone who's seen videos of Mike Gallo will contest to this,
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because this echoes in his performances today.
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Lou also influenced a broader circle of magicians, particularly in the areas
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of coin magic and close-up effects.
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He was known for his willingness to share and to share his knowledge with others,
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a trait that Mike inherited and continued by teaching and releasing instructional
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materials for magicians worldwide.
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Although Lou might not have been as widely recognized by some of his contemporaries,
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his contributions to the field of close-up magic were profound.
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His techniques particularly the gallo pitch
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are still studied and used by magicians around the
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world the remembering of the remembering
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the magic of lou gallo dvd set that was released by
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mike gallo himself and it preserves and showcases lou's routines allowing the
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future generations of magicians to still learn from his body of work so lou's
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legacy lived on through his son and the Kelton's magicians who continue to use
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and build upon the technique which he pioneered.
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His impact on the magic community is lasting and his influence can be seen in
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the seamless coin magic that continues to captivate audiences today.
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And I think we can all agree with that.
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I can agree with that. As I was looking through the credits of Lou Gallo's work,
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I just ran across one of his versions of the hotel mystery, which is off.
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It's an odd number transposition, like three Queens change places with two Kings.
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And I used a Lou Gallo method for a short within the last couple of years for this wonderful plot.
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You don't see a lot of people do the hotel mystery.
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Yeah. I look up Lou Gallo's version. It's a good one. Okay.
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But yeah and i think what i love the most is like this whole notion of like smooth.
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Clean movements a lot of things you see out there even things
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that are published and i've read a lot of books and it's like do this move and
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it's like it's so jarring oh man like mike gallo's magic is complete naturalness
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yeah never you never suspected like you know anything dumb was happening you
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know it's all like it's just happening the magic's just there yeah exactly Exactly.
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And there's a couple of things that I want to touch upon that I think I might want your input in.
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So with regards to Mike Gallo, his career in magic spanned several decades.
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And his expertise in sleight of hand, especially with coins,
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made him a predominant figure in the close-up community.
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Throughout his career, Gallo performed at various magic conventions,
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magic clubs, and private events. And he became well-known for his smooth, natural style.
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Apart from performing, Mike Gallo contributed immensely to the education through
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his lectures, workshops, and instructional DVDs.
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His performances at venues like Eddie Factor's legendary Folks Hotel in Buffalo,
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New York, were pivotal, as it was a hub for magicians who specialized in close-up magic.
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Now, to my knowledge, the Folks Hotel in Buffalo was the precursor to the Magic Castle.
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Hmm so that's that's where they
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operated from that was basically this
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is a weird like that's on the opposite coast of the
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country but i could see how that might
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happen the larson boys seeing what's going down at the forks and
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then thinking we could throw it down better in la yeah yeah yeah and that was
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basically like the like they existed prior but it was just one of those hubs
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you know what i mean like i guess that the magic castle would be a hub as far
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as the us is concerned it's like if you perform there at the hub there we're
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all connected there in some way.
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Right that's for the east coast it's been
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that for you know what how how many vectors have
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there been 50 or 60 close up finger flinging
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frolics yeah yeah all started by guys like gallo and you know vector at the
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forks yeah a whole bunch of them in fact the guys that kind of started that
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ended up doing a convention which i'm going to mention in this body of work
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of his so i wanted to sort of touch up his works because a lot of people might
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have an opportunity to see what he does.
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So I wanted to touch upon this little body of work because Gallow's instructional
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DVDs were really significant and to me, a really big part of his legacy.
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So each of these DVDs provide magicians with detailed tutorials and signature
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of his signature routines, including like these really expert slides of his
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and the way to actually perform them.
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So the first one that I was not able to actually see where you can actually
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purchase this was called The Dynasty Continues.
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This DVD was one of Gallo's most well-known works.
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It focused primarily on coin magic and focused on the variety of routines that
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was demonstrated by Gallo's fluid, natural slider hand.
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The Dynasty Continues was more than just a tincture tool. It was a dive into
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the intricacies of coin magic.
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Gallo broke down each technique and routine in great detail.
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Providing aspiring magicians subtleties needed to perform the tricks really convincingly.
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And I think, I wish I was able to get a copy of that.
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Like I actually searched it, I was hoping that I might be able to purchase it
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and speak my experiences of it.
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Unfortunately not now the next body of work was a really interesting one and
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i kind of fell down a rabbit hole with this one and it was to do with the new york coin magic seminar.
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Now this began in 2002 and was created by a group of leading coin magicians including,
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david roth mike gallo michael rubinstein and then later jeff lada with the goal
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of preserving and passing on the art of coin magic to future generations.
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The seminar quickly became a central resource for magicians interested in learning
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the intricacies of coin magic.
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So if you're not familiar with these names, David Roth is widely regarded as
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one of the greatest coin magicians of all time.
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David Roth, his contributions were invaluable.
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His techniques for routines such as the tuning fork, his famous hanging coins
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routine using the downwards palm were taught in this series of DVDs.
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Roth's focus was on smoothness and precision, and his teaching style helped
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countless magicians refine their technique.
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I have several of his books already, as well as his DVDs.
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Now, another magician there was Michael Rubenstein, a prolific magician and
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co-founder of the seminar.
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Michael Rubenstein contributed a vast array of original coin routines and techniques.
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He also played a key role in organizing the seminar, and guided their direction.
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Rubenstein's teaching focused heavily on the practical aspects of coin magic,
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helping magicians understand how to incorporate these routines in their professional repertoires.
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As well as that, there was Jeff Larder.
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His most recent body of work after his passing was called The Last Goodbye.
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It's a wonderful book, which I have mainly coin work at the table,
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but really clever stuff.
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Though he joined late in this sort of realm, Jeff Lada's contributions to the
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seminar were significant.
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Lada was deeply influenced... Sorry, I'm getting a knockback. Is that okay?
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Oh. That was me. That was my cat. That's Doug.
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I'm doing cat stuff. I'm sorry, because I'm reading this, I can't see what's
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happening, so I apologize. Just being disruptive. and the disruptive one.
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Let's roll back. Now, Jeff Lada, though he joined later, Jeff Lada's contributions
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to the seminar were significant.
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Lada was a deeply influential coin magician known for his techniques,
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prowess, and creative approaches to slights.
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His work in the seminars expanded the range of advanced material materials.
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Available to all the students. And his emphasis on the theory behind the magic
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was a valuable addition to the seminar.
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Now, the idea behind the seminar was to create a structured,
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intensive learning environment where magicians could dive deeply into coin magic techniques.
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At the time, there were very few dedicated resources for coin magic,
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especially ones that went into in-depth.
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While card magic had numerous books and numerous videos, coin magic was more
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often sort of underrepresented in the broader magic community.
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So the founders of the seminar wanted to change that by creating a series that
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focused exclusively on coins, allowing students to access the specialized knowledge
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and masters in the field.
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The seminar started as live in-person events.
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There were magicians who could attend and learn directly from the creators.
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The events would focus on lectures demonstrations interactive
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workshops where the attendees could get hands-on instructions
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from these experts the goal was not only to teach tricks
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but also to impart a deep understanding on the theory the
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psychology and the practicing of the
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coin magic recognizing the broader demand for
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this material the organizers decided to
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document these seminars and release the content in a
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dvd series the first dvds were
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released shortly after the live seminars began and they
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were they quickly became a very popular within the
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magic community the series grew over time expanding into
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multiple volumes each which focused on
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different aspects of coin magic the seminar
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series of dvds stopped holding live seminars in around 2008 while dvd production
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continued a short time after that the final set of dvds were released in the
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early 2010s so the The live seminars ran from 2002 to 2008, sorry, 2008.
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By the end of the seminars, it had become a comprehensive resource for coin
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magicians, leaving a lasting impact, even though the seminars themselves had
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normally continued, which I thought was really, really cool.
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Now, Doug, do you know anything about this particular coin seminar?
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Nothing like that exists today.
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Yeah, I've seen a couple of those DVDs, but I don't know a whole lot about what was going on there.
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It's like the graduate course in coin magic i've seen the contents list for
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these things it seemed like someone was offering the compendium recently like
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you could get it all wow a lot man's like.
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But that you reminded me lot is on there i want to go back
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and at least watch a lot of i don't know yeah but
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i think what you said is important that there wasn't events that were coin centric
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and wow look how much coin magic has grown since those
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days so maybe without those cats waving the
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coin flag we don't have guys like jeffrey wang
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now you know so yeah does anything
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like that still exist like a coin coin sposium
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or you know what i think the guy waving that
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flag is just folding up this week and copeland coins he.
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Has run a coin centric business successfully it's
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and he's closing but not like he's failing it's just
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is he really i saw that
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post and i hung out with them in
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vegas and bought products and yeah
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yeah like well when you're on the pitch you're.
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Not talking about what's coming up but yeah so yeah
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but that's this is an example and also example of
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how challenging it can be to run a retail business in a
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modern era because if anyone had formula for success jeff
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copeland and like like i said it's not like you failed just
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like you know to operate the highest end businesses
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and and really you deserve
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the best for yourself when you're doing that if you don't get to that point maybe you
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need to move on to something else so i think that's what's happening for jeff
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guessing but yeah you won't find a more positive person
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or really a great producer of products and a
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positive influence in the magic community have we yeah we
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had jeff on here didn't we or was it just me regardless whatever
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he's going to do next i was posting earlier i said well
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whatever door is opening for jeff copeland is going
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to be huge and great you know we had we had rick
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holcomb on but we haven't had oakland on yeah okay i had i had jeff come on
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to my youtube channel and talk a bit about what he was doing this would have
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been about nine months ago at a different time in his business yeah gotcha you
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know chris just made a comment saying that coin magic is small and i don't know why.
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I know why it's hard it's hard
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it's hard man that's why people don't want to practice i'll tell
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you and the it wasn't until like
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my confidence in coin magic severely grew
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once i knew how to do a hand wash yeah
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it's such a weird thing but uh any coin video
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you see me do i'm doing a coin wash because
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you know the moment you do a retention vanish
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their brain goes okay where is
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it like it must be in the other hand because like where
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else can it be but the moment i learned to do
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this as i'm talking and i
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see their heads just go i just see them go oh what
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the hell now i'm like all right great now it actually has vanished in their
25:57
mind so the moment i learned that my world for coin magic opened up but until
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you learn like how to handle a coin naturally and to pitch it or ditch it or
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whatever it's so nerve-wracking right because you just think people know exactly
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where it is. It's a physical item.
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It's not like you can hide it under another card and shuffle it.
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They do for the most part. That's another negative to coin magic.
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And not only is that game at foot immediately, you know, once you make that
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first coin vanish, the audience is now.
26:26
Playing ping pong right unless you're just afraid of i
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mean you should be in the in the theater of magic
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i whether i'm doing close-up or a stage
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show i always open with a one coin routine and
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i end that routine if i'm i always end that routine
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with coin under watch and maybe a just
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a single bloody coin can get so much reactions
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and i preach all the time it's the most important
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it's the most important thing for a magician in the one coin
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routine 100 and ending with
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a coin invading someone's personal space under
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their watch and that moment is just you know i don't you know i'll burn all
27:08
the double crosses in this planet to to still just be able to do coin under
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watch like it's amazing i mean nick yeah you know you have one of the one of
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the great one coin routines i've seen you're you're able to actually ditch a
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coin in your eye which i can't do.
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My eye socket doesn't allow me to
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i gotta work on my eye muscles or something yeah going
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from kennedy's to morgan's and going to the eye socket was an adjustment for
27:34
sure but like i i love coins beyond every discipline in magic it's my favorite
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thing because what you what's true for coins is true for almost any product
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you pick up any item you pick up a you know an eraser a pen a a rock You know what I mean?
27:50
So for me, being able to do sleight of hand with small object,
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coin or not, it just opens your world up.
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So I love that. And the only thing I can think of with regards to a kind of
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dedicated realm where people can hyper-focus on coins, or if they were obsessive like myself,
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I would have to shout out Danny Goldsmith, who is a brilliant coin guy and comes
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up with some of the craziest stuff.
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I am subscribed to his good advice to his mastery magic mastery.
28:22
I think it's called his course. They do cards and stuff and everything else
28:25
just to keep it broad, but it is primarily coins and it's wonderful.
28:28
And his thought process is insane. Like the, the creative level that he does
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on a weekly basis is just like phenomenal. So shout out to him.
28:37
Maybe we should reach out to him and ask him if you would come and help shed
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some light and celebrate coin magic a little bit more.
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Come on, let's go. It's going to happen. Right. Yeah. here
28:46
from danny gold all right i'm gonna write that down let's let's
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let's all let's all hit him up and if you guys hit him up as well saying please
28:52
go on the magic guys podcast maybe he can't hit up to join us
28:55
let me let me cast a vote for some old school here i
28:58
was talking to a student last week about real magic magazine
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cosmos thing curtis cam has the
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bobo video dissertation where he
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goes through the whole bobo's coin magic and breaks that
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down one chapter at a time so curtis cam one
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of the best coin magic guys ever one of the greatest mad
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magicians living and we could talk to curtis maybe
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to write him down i maybe curtis would come say hi i
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love yeah that bobo's modern coin magic resource at real magic magazine what's
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up guys well worth your seven bucks a month damn i mean the the first real work
29:34
i put into learning a one coin routine is and i go back to this all the time
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was was david stone from real secrets of magic.
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I went back to my illusionist.com membership.
29:49
Like, you know, everyone has a login that they've never used for a million years.
29:52
And I went back into it and I can still access all the real secret downloads
29:56
from it that I purchased.
29:58
That I purchased like 12 years ago. Because although I'm pretty sure they don't
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sell it on their site anymore, I can still watch it having purchased it. That's awesome.
30:07
That was a really fun treat to find. And he, yeah, he has a very...
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It's a pretty technical one coin routine, but it's easy enough to follow along
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and it just looks like just.
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That might be one of the best instructional videos ever.
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Like probably a top three, if not like number one.
30:28
Do we just appreciate how good David Stone's classic palm is?
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Like it seems like he can palm a coin and his hand is wide open, like flat.
30:38
He uses tape. He doesn't like that people don't know this, but he uses tape.
30:43
Please tell me he actually does do that. I just did.
30:46
But like, is that real? Do we need to fact check that or that's a joke?
30:50
I'm just casting shade on David Stone for no good reason.
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Cause it really does look like it. Like if you look it up anywhere,
30:57
it really like mine's like this.
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And if I angle it, maybe I can go far, but he's really like this.
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The only tell is like his thumb, his thumb is like a tiny bit. It's so crazy.
31:09
David Stone, please come on this show. I know you've liked our stuff before
31:13
when we shared one of our reels mentioning you, but we got to get him on too.
31:18
Yeah. Okay. Well, speaking of other awesome bits of material,
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let's jump back into Mike's buddy of work because he actually released a DVD
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called Magic of Mike Gallo.
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And in Magic of Mike Gallo, Mike demonstrates various close-up routines beyond just coin magic.
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And the DVD focuses on his original coin tricks and card magic and other close-up effects.
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Making it a really well-rounded collection of his work.
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Gallo's approach in this DVD was focused on teaching the nuances of the routines,
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emphasizing both in the technicalities and the psychological aspects of performing magic.
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As well as that, he released a DVD called Remembering the Magic of Lou Gallo, his father.
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So in this DVD, Mike pays tribute to his father.
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By showcasing some of Lou's signature magic routines and techniques,
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This set not only preserves Lou Gallo's legacy, but also allows magicians to
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learn from one of the most innovative magicians of all time.
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So Mike offers personal insights to his father's techniques,
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giving viewers a rare glimpse into the workings of one of his magical unsung
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heroes. Come on, that is cool.
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How great is that? Yeah, a lot of material which might have died gets a chance
32:33
to stay alive through a project like this. Yeah, yeah.
32:38
You know do you ever think about your body of work fellas and who who might carry it on or,
32:45
he's really talking to you doug because you're the one with the
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body of work well i kept having children hoping for a male
32:51
child because that was my best hope and then i taught
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my my youngest daughter some the some magic
32:57
you know she does a good sphingali pitch in the cups but that's
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about as far as we got yeah so i
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guess i guess with i guess with magic it's more the
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students that you have or people you mentor
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over time that are the ones that carry on i'd like
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to feel i'm doing a pretty good job of that my life right now and maybe i got
33:16
half a chance of someone talking good about me 50 years from now that'd be cool
33:21
that's what i'm that's what i'm thinking right like people will be mentioning
33:25
your book and obviously learn sleight of hand and interesting Interesting fact here,
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my book, written by Paul Cummins,
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Fast Du Press.
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One title was released under Fast Du Press.
33:39
Paul was writing the second when he passed away.
33:43
Lord knows how far he'd been working on this book, maybe a decade, the Mike Gallo book.
33:51
Knowing the detail that he put into this, I can only imagine that.
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What this book is. I don't know who has the files.
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I hope someone has it. And I hope someone's going to put this Paul Cummins project out.
34:05
You know, he left us too early and he left that book unfinished on a computer.
34:09
I have a feeling that these lecture notes I have, have like some of that material
34:14
in there from this book. For sure it does.
34:17
You know, it's Mike's work, but man, that's what's missing.
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You want to talk about the videos that Mike has put out and so on.
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And my vote goes to the collected
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almanac you want a good gallo you get
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that collected almanac from Kaufman it's all
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that early 80s work it's got loose stuff in there mike stuff in there things
34:37
like the ball and vase routine is in there is that on your is that on your yeah
34:42
can we can we talk about that real quick let's talk about the ball and vase
34:45
so he released this dvd set along with a gimmick called the ball and vase okay
34:50
it's a unique dvd of gallo's.
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Presentation on the ball and vase, okay?
34:56
It's focusing on a specific routine using the classic prop, the ball and vase.
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I'm sure we're all aware of it. If you haven't, please look up ball and vase.
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And if you want to see a brilliant version, look up Mike Gallo's one.
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Because this routine highlights Gallo's mastery of misdirection and sleight of hand.
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And the DVD breaks down each move step-by-step and instructional sections provide
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magicians with the tools needed to perform the routine with precision.
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While also teaching the broader lessons of performance and timing.
35:27
But the presentation of this is the most unique that I have ever seen.
35:34
And I will say, wink, wink, it's nuts when you see how it works.
35:40
There's a little punchline for you. So are you familiar with this, Doug?
35:47
So, yes, I have put ball and vase routine on short form media,
35:51
influenced by Mike Gallo's routine.
35:54
Not what he's doing because I didn't feel like I could do his routine because it's so him.
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Now maybe that he's left, I can consider playing with some of the notions,
36:03
He does a great transposition in the middle of it, and certainly the large loads that he uses.
36:09
I was looking through my email because last week I ordered a couple of those
36:13
little plastic ball and vases.
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To do his routine, it kind of needs that little old-school plasticky vibe.
36:20
So inspired by Mike's memory and watching some of the things last week,
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going over material of his, I reordered some junk ball and vases to start playing
36:31
with Mike's routine again. It's so good.
36:34
And no gaff he doesn't use the gaff it's just
36:37
it's all sleight of hand no uh he doesn't use
36:40
the shell it's an interesting side bit there oh
36:43
i didn't know that pure sleight of
36:46
hand great techniques yeah because the way
36:48
he dumped it out i was thought like oh i must be retaining it some
36:51
oh wow it's in the collected almanac it's
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it's amazing yeah so i mean
36:58
look buddy of work that we've just absorbed i mean there's so much more we could
37:02
talk about but like the all in all mike ellis influence on the magic community
37:07
extended far beyond his performances and his dvds as a lecturer and a teacher
37:12
he shaped the careers of many magicians who continue to practice and evolve
37:16
the art of coin magic today.
37:18
I tried to research, you know, the students he might have had.
37:26
And I wasn't able to find anything, but I do know that I've had conversations
37:30
with people who influenced my magic, one of which is Eric Jones.
37:35
And I know that Eric Jones spent some time either with him or studying alongside him.
37:41
And he would share a lot of techniques being like, this is a Gallo idea and so forth.
37:44
So, I mean, we all stand on the shoulders of giants, right?
37:48
And I would love to know who else had the joy of being able to be taught directly
37:58
by him and have those thoughts.
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I mean, you could just say that like, yeah, you probably experienced the same things in the books.
38:04
But I think we all know that when you're having one-to-ones with people,
38:07
it's totally different. So I digress.
38:11
His approach his approachable teaching style and willingness to share the knowledge
38:15
made him a beloved figure among both aspiring and professional magicians now as you know,
38:24
mike passed away and what i read was this post that was cut and pasted and sent
38:29
to me and this was a post by michael rubinstein and it said this i just heard
38:36
mike's wife I just heard from Mike's wife, Linda,
38:40
that Mike passed away this afternoon at home.
38:42
Mike was suffering from lung cancer and heart disease and had been on oxygen.
38:47
Last we spoke, he sounded good.
38:50
And he said the treatment was going well. Another coin legend gone. Damn.
38:56
That's upsetting. Now, despite his death, Mike Geller's legacy will continue
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through his works and contributions with countless magicians who have been inspired by his magic.
39:07
Mike Gallo's life and career exemplified dedication to the art of magic.
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From his early days learning from his father to his extensive career as a performer
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and teacher, Gallo remained committed to advancing the art of sleight of hand.
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His instructional DVDs serve as a lasting testament to his skill and generosity
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to sharing his knowledge with the world.
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And I hope magicians everywhere continue to benefit from the techniques,
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routines that both Mike and Lou Gallo perfected through their lifetimes.
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And through us we can ensure the magic lives on
39:38
inspiring and enchanting generations to
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come and that's the story of mike gallo friends i think we give him a round
39:46
of applause i think so yeah i'll be doing my part i'm i'm actively relearning
39:54
some gallo stuff his work on the wild coin routine is in my practice repertoire
39:59
right now i as i said the ball.
40:01
Based stuff also i don't know if you saw bill centino's clip
40:04
with gadabout coins and bill was one of
40:07
those guys was in the coin magic seminar over and man
40:10
mike's work on the gadabout coins is really practical
40:13
and really good and really fooling yes so
40:17
those are routines that i don't currently use much
40:20
but mike's version of the wild coin is the
40:23
most practical and he uses a coffee cup
40:26
which i'm prone to use occasionally in my coin work so yeah
40:30
that's awesome i i
40:33
was just watching just this morning a routine
40:36
i'd never seen done where he was getting the
40:39
spectators to say stop and each time was an ace
40:42
and just his way of handling like naturally
40:46
to display like the ace and be like
40:48
you know if you'd stopped here or here or one less
40:51
or one more he would and missed and then but he does it for all four aces and
40:55
just i'd never seen that for example and that was not even his coin work that
41:01
was yeah his card work is stellar yeah the killer oil and water i was looking
41:05
at not too long ago as well i have a set of card notes that goes with those
41:09
three i can't find right in a second.
41:12
Yeah, you know, it's like that, right?
41:16
Like we're at a point in our career where magic is at the forefront.
41:20
We get to see a lot happening. Like it's so weird that like you go to Magic
41:23
Live, Johnny Thompson's there.
41:24
He's got a moon boot on, he's on crutches.
41:27
He's selling his book. He's high-fiving people. He's taking photographs.
41:31
And then six months later, it's like Johnny Thompson.
41:34
Hey, Nick, your mic has changed again. Just while we're still here,
41:40
get that good mic coming back.
41:42
Yeah, Gallo had invited me up to the 52 convention last time I saw him.
41:47
And I get the vibe a lot of those vectors guys don't care for what I do on the
41:52
internet. So I'm not privy to be at those gatherings so much.
41:55
But Mike was sure to offer a kind hand to come hang out. And sadly,
41:59
that won't be happening now.
42:01
I'd love to go up there and see some of these New York guys.
42:03
I don't get to see because of preconceived notions, but whatever.
42:08
Yeah, wow. A personal sadness for me. well we just yeah i mean we got to keep
42:14
the magic going we're going to keep it alive and i and i'm inspired now to go
42:18
and learn this gallo pitch you know so it's something i think is gonna keep,
42:23
anyone that's using the hang ping chin in your in your life should definitely
42:28
consider the gallo pitch also if you're not gonna do that you should read that my my.
42:39
I lost words that this book will tell you how to do the hang ping chin properly
42:44
if you want to stick with that but the gallop pitch is more natural yeah,
42:54
nick you're on the opposite of fixing things nick you're completely underwater
42:59
right now It's like you're literally in a bathtub talking to us.
43:03
I don't know what's happened. It's just his computer is so overwhelmed.
43:06
Oh, we might have you back. I don't understand.
43:09
You're back. Don't move the muscle. That's the problem. Don't move.
43:15
Oh, Gutbuster Mike brings up an interesting point. Now, how to do the pitch without a table.
43:21
Have you played around with doing it in the hands of spectators at all, Doug?
43:25
One of the coins across I used to actively use was the, as a handling of Paul Harris's HP PDQ.
43:33
And I would do it into the spectator's hands using hang pink ching,
43:37
but not the, not the gallo pitch.
43:40
That would be interesting. Cause I'll give you a brief demo here.
43:43
If you want, it'd be all these dollars.
43:45
I have a, you know, a spectator has their hands outstretched.
43:49
You say here, hold out your hands.
43:50
And what I'm going to do is make the coins fly from hand to hand.
43:54
And you have to catch them as they fly across. Got it.
43:57
All right, here we go. Here's, here's the first, Oh, a little slow,
44:00
a little slow. You missed that one. I'm going to do it again.
44:02
See if you can catch the second one. Remember it's going to fly across.
44:05
Oh, that's number two. Oh my God. You're doing the Hank Pinchin into their hand.
44:10
You say, that's the third one.
44:12
And here comes the fourth one. And so that's how you could use the Hang Ping Chin.
44:17
Because the Gallo pitch has this crossing action, I don't think it'd flow so
44:21
well as the Hang Ping Chin.
44:24
Look, I'm going to stop while I'm ahead after I did it earlier.
44:27
Well, I'm not going to do it. You did it really well. Yeah, really well the first time.
44:31
That's awesome. Okay, so that is when the different applications can work in different places.
44:36
And then Scotty P is mentioning there's an effect with a peanut using the Gallo
44:41
pitch from Jay Sankey. is that do you know stuff about that doug oh i don't oh we've got him.
44:52
If it's in a sankey book before the
44:55
year 2000 i got it but anything that's been
44:58
published after that sankey has like 8 000 things i
45:01
gave up right right i threw in the towel after
45:04
a hundred percent he's saying he went it's two two
45:07
empty shells turns into one full peanut okay yeah
45:10
so i could see that so you have like a peanut
45:13
coins yeah you snap it in half you
45:16
do oh you know what you would only need half a peanut so
45:19
you have a whole peanut and a half a peanut so there's my
45:22
peanut you break it in half show this half
45:25
here gallo pitch that half and
45:29
then bang put it back together so that's probably damn
45:32
and if it's not that's going to be in my next book yeah because
45:36
now you're using that coin method to
45:39
do like what seems like impromptu like real life yeah yeah just make sure you
45:44
do that routine with an epi pen because you're going to be like here we go in
45:49
the next certain steps i can breathe again of course i travel with an epi pen at the ready always,
45:58
You need to, man. Honestly, everyone's like.
46:03
You can't be throwing peanuts at people in the middle of whatever.
46:06
Like if you're not allowed, if the peanuts aren't allowed in primary schools,
46:08
for example, you shouldn't be throwing peanuts at people because they'll die.
46:12
That's true. So yes, Scotty P just said, that's it. So you just nailed the routine,
46:17
Doug. So that's, there you go.
46:18
Dang. I was hoping I had a new item for my book.
46:21
Oh, well, well, you could just change the item and then I'm going to do that.
46:26
I'm going to make it the edamame restoration.
46:34
I'm going to use a pistachio. I'll show you. I'll show all of you.
46:38
I'm going to 3D print it and sell it through Murphy's.
46:41
When Michael Amar was here lecturing in Brisbane and he performed the night
46:45
before, he did essentially a larger version of that, which was a cut lemon to do bill to lemon.
46:52
But then he restores the lemon and repeats the bill to lemon a second time by restoring the lemon,
46:59
talk about bloody magicalness but the
47:03
but you need a bit more there's a bit more going on to do that than just a gallow
47:07
pitch but i like mike's idea here you could do a sweet tarts or candy and like
47:12
you could like break it in half pull a candy out and then restore the candy
47:16
back together that's fun now we're talking what you know they're coming up to
47:20
christmas soon can it be done with a Well,
47:22
Halloween, more importantly, because like if you look at Michael Kodinsky's
47:26
routine where he takes like a Skittles packet, right?
47:30
And then he peels off, tears a corner off, dumps candy into your hand,
47:34
puts that corner piece back onto the thing and restores it.
47:37
And I do it myself.
47:40
That's one of the best uses for a thumbtip ever. Like it is just. Yeah.
47:45
Yeah if you haven't seen it well look up mike gadinsky's penguin lecture and
47:50
and you'll see that performance on there it is so good okay yeah i like where
47:56
we're going with this this yeah.
47:58
Hmm you guys got halloween gigs
48:01
you do anything fancy for halloween normally i gotta
48:04
dress up or go get painted up like a zombie you know
48:07
what i mean and that always takes a long time because i'm bald so
48:10
i've got a bigger canvas than the average bear so they
48:13
gotta paint the whole situation you know what i mean so and some people love
48:17
it like oh i love it we got all this canvas because my head's enormous and yeah
48:24
it's just the worst thing about it is when people want to paint you up for gigs
48:28
that it's like you can't do two gigs in one night it's like you finish the gig,
48:33
and then it's like oh you're done by seven o'clock it's like oh great i'll just
48:36
go to it i can't because i'm it's going to take me two hours to get all this paint off my face.
48:41
I i find it funny that you know the the agencies think it's such a great idea to theme us by
48:47
putting us in a different costume or painting us but
48:51
like at the end of the day no one react
48:54
any differently to the magic we would have done in our normal
48:57
i disagree they act worse because you're not
49:00
doing your normal skit you don't know how to portray the
49:03
character and people don't know
49:06
how to receive it even even more so because it's gonna be weird yeah i guess
49:11
what i'm saying is it's not really necessary but it's it's funny that we that
49:15
that you know we will do it obviously so often the agents sell the sizzle and
49:20
not really the magic it's not like they're trying to sell good magic.
49:24
They're trying to sell the image of the magician, you know.
49:29
Yeah, but my dogs are ready for Halloween.
49:34
I, that's probably super loud. I am, I am doing a show on the 26th at the Theater of Magic.
49:39
It's, you know, we'll do some spooky stuff, but that's the closest to like the
49:44
Halloween date that I'll be doing the show. Yeah.
49:47
Personally, Doug, I expect to see a couple of Halloween themed reels coming
49:52
out from you. Is that in the works? I don't know.
49:55
You know, what's exciting this week is as of tomorrow, YouTube short.
49:59
Is bumping their time limit up to three minutes so let's
50:02
ride that wave i heard that yes that is
50:05
exciting there's you know the hardest thing is making a
50:07
video for instagram and it's 90 seconds and then going how do
50:10
i trim this down to 60 for youtube and it
50:13
still be good right so i've probably
50:16
got a bank of a couple of 10 or so
50:19
videos that that i just didn't put on youtube no doubt
50:22
i've got a bunch of them i've been doing you know long ones
50:25
for a while now another thing i heard is
50:28
someone in my atmosphere was
50:31
talking to was talking to facebook
50:34
so youtube and facebook and they were
50:37
saying that if you post if you repost an old video that's from more than six
50:42
months ago meta will treat it as a new video in the algorithm it won't suppress
50:49
it because it registers it's been posted before it'll it'll still pump it out
50:53
as normal so that's why on my Instagram,
50:55
people may have seen a couple of videos that I put out a year ago,
50:59
because now I have almost double the amount of new followers.
51:02
So they, no one's seen it.
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Um, and it's, they've been doing well because yeah, if it's over six months, it can.
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Do it all again in the atmosphere replay that
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shit replay that shit josh yeah that's right
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you know because imagine you know over the years i mean doug
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how many reels would you have now from since you
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started putting out this high quality content you know
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probably hundreds yep according to
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youtube there's 900 videos up there whoa that's
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a lot right that's a few that's a few i think i'm at 700
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but that's because a lot of them are old before
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when i was doing my 100 vlogs challenge but same here i got 2006
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content you know so i wasn't a busy
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boy back in the day but i've got some stuff up there it's been around a
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while yeah it's
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exciting everyone's competing still with the platform
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to watch shorts and stuff aren't they i think
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that you know magic wins with this time expansion because
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60 seconds just is not enough to do a good magic presentation
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i'm not saying it's the best for the shorts platform but it's the best for good
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magic on the shorts platform and maybe give some actual performers more of a
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chance of doing the real performing versus trying to cram something into 60
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seconds it's insanely hard to do well and i i have found.
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People's attention spans starting to to grow
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now yeah youtube wouldn't be doing it if they weren't
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you know exactly that's exactly
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right i've i used to trim the
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video so fine that it was just full of
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like straight to the yeah bloody point and
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now you can let it breathe a bit and add the
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humor bit especially for live clips of course
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the premise has to be clear straight away but you can really like
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play it out and like on
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on instagram my video that's going the
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most viral right now is the magician verse heckler clip and
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it's not even a magic trick it's just me like
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putting a heckler in their place when they want to check the deck it's not
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even a trick and so
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but like two years ago that wouldn't have worked it has to be it has to be like
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in the studio like watch this you know watch this and boom and it changes and
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see i think that's not working as well now as you know the more genuine approach
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like you go try on the tricky tricky dicky stuff and now people one more act
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to be like, ah, tricky dicky.
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Yeah. From, from Mike's, from what I'm observing, it seems to be the videos,
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a lot of the videos that look like they're filmed from someone else having captured.
53:39
Yeah. And it's not posted by the artist themselves.
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Yeah. Like, uh, yeah, a fellow magician in Australia, Jackson aces,
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right. Post, posted the bowl of Rama.
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Yeah performance but it's filmed from someone in
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the audience like just on an iphone on an angle and the
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bolorama video got i don't
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know what he's up to now i want to guess five million views
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on instagram for bolorama that guy does pretty well
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for himself actually he's got a good eye for what
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plays on social media definitely and he's
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got an eye for it and he and he has a show playing at the
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sydney opera house oh no that's great yeah yeah
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he is doing big things but the fact that like even he
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was surprised because he just it's a it's like a 15
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second video it's just like yeah he's just finished
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drawing the thing it falls out it doesn't even fall
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out well like it falls out and he kicks it in the audience because he
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doesn't even stop it but like it just went enormous
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because it was filmed from like what looks like a sort
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of hidden camera ish you know
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like this audience filming it yeah and then you've got xavier mortimer
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which just defies all odds and just kills
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it but yeah zach king level good even maybe
54:54
surpassing that it feels like real magic when you watch a xavier
54:57
video yeah and what a weird format because he explained to us it's like highly
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produced and obviously even the spectators are sort of booked to be to come
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into the set to be spectators but they they don't know what the trick is that's
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going to happen so even though,
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so it's like it's weird it's almost like it's a TV show and they know they're
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coming on to watch magic but.
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They don't know what the magic is so it's still like a genuine ish reaction.
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It's an odd one it's a good way to do it,
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Yeah. Yes, I agree. I'm going to start doing that. I'm going to start hiring plants.
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Come hang out here in the studio and be my yes man. Yes.
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And pretty soon we're going to have, you know, I don't think Nick's microphone
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is working at the moment, but it's pretty soon we're going to have Nick's video
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challenges coming back soon, I'm sure.
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Where you can challenge Nick to create an effect. Because I really like that
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series. And so I know it's time consuming because you've got to come up with
56:04
the method and then you've got to film it and you've got to do it,
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making sure it's good for camera.
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But start hounding Nick with challenge ideas of videos for him to film. For sure. What great.
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Thanks for the extra work. We can basically right now, yeah,
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we can talk Nick into doing anything right now because he can't rebuttal it. No rebuttals.
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You guys can come up with anything.
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And we'll reward him with pizza deliveries. So I think that's only fair.
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Pizza magic challenge. That's what I like. Gutbuster Mike saying,
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we want to see a pizza magic video.
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So Nick, I think that's going to be the one they see next is a pizza magic challenge.
56:47
I want to see it personally. So maybe it's multiplying pepperonis.
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I don't know. But something's going to come out.
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I think we're wrapping up this episode slowly. Yeah, I feel like we're done here.
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That's right. look look out on the channels uh for all our content throughout
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the week i've certainly learned an immense more about mike gallo which i'm so
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appreciative of even though it's our own podcast it was it was really a pleasure
57:13
to learn more about him and i'm going to continue that.
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Doug and and nick already had a pretty good
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amount of knowledge and nick went to the efforts of actually researching and
57:23
writing this essay which is which is amazing and just
57:26
quickly doug what's on for you this week you're
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in the uh the learn sleight of hand uh world this
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yeah yeah today i filmed an epic session where
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i delved into the top 10
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small packet handling so i'll be editing that
57:43
tomorrow and talking about maybe that on
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my youtube live wednesday i'm gonna do a harry anderson tribute
57:48
show with some giveaways this wednesday afternoon so it
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was his birthday week we remembered his birthday yesterday so harry's on my
57:55
mind i got some giveaways that's happening Wednesday at four o'clock YouTube
57:59
Doug Kahn joined me man Doug you're like the busiest you've ever been I would
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say right in your life magic wise like bloody happening Nick what are you up to,
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talk and oh yeah kicks real work real work yeah same i i gotta fly out to a
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country town this week which they've told me might not have any reception but
58:23
they're gonna put up their own.
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Starlink tower to get some wi-fi happening
58:29
so no doubt i'm gonna have some stories about
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that i have to go on a plane that has 10 seats and they literally because of
58:36
the weight have to limit how much fuel they can put and therefore we can only
58:41
have 10 kilos of luggage and i gotta do two separate shows when i'm over there
58:46
so this is literally the epitome of pack small play big for
58:51
an event because i'm literally not allowed to take much big stuff super cool
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so i'll report back on that break a leg thanks yeah so that's gonna be fun i'll
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leave that as the final word Paxmore play big is literally going to be my mantra for this weekend.
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You guys have been great. We'll see you next week for another episode of The Magic Guys.
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Thanks for listening. It's time for us to disappear now. Disappear now.
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But we'll see you again on the next episode of The Magic Guys.