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Strictly Bias with Will Retherford: The Final One ... For Now (2.184.2) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: You are listening to the strictly biased podcast with Will Rutherford, and I think we probably explained this during the podcast, but I want to let you know what's going on with Will and his podcast.
• 0:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the final strictly biased podcast at least until the fall, as Will and I prepare to do a new debate slash prediction podcasts called Greg versus Will versus the world, and that
• 0:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Earlier, this week Will and I kind of experimented with it and this is that experiment.
• 0:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hope you like it and please tune in to Greg versus Will versus the world in a couple of weeks.
• 0:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome central Indiana sports fans to the last recording of strictly vios with yours truly will rather fern until potentially next NFL season.
• 1:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Greg and I have been cooking up something new for our listeners and we are planning to go to more of a debate format.
• 1:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have all the information, but I know a guy who does, he happens to be on this call with me right now.
• 1:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Greg, why don't you tell the fans what they want to hear?
• 1:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be called Greg versus will versus the world.
• 1:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And every week, you and I are going to debate for topics.
• 1:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to, whatever the biggest topic is, whether we both agree or not, we're going to talk about it.
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: For topics, at least the debate three of them, where you take one side, I take the other.
• 1:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, eventually, whether it's tomorrow or 25 years from now.
• 1:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: war being right.
• 1:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if there's any dispute, the world gets to get to the stop gets to decide in a poll.
• 2:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: For example, if I say who's going to have a better career Caleb Wilson or Cameron Booser, they both end up being Hall of Famers.
• 2:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: 25.
• 2:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: The world gets to say 25 years from now, the world will get to vote who, which one of his wins?
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a little absurd, but we're going to keep score as we go and we're going to be able to do a lot of them or what's going to happen this weekend.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll get points.
• 2:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And each topic we're hoping to have the world participate in a poll and whoever they side against, if the person is right against the other and the world, they get a bonus point.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 2:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we are definitely going to have a Twitter page.
• 2:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: started up very soon to get fan engagement high, hopefully any listener of this show can follow and join in to help make this the most listen to podcast and all of central Indiana and Finland.
• 2:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Number one, I don't think there's any question about what the biggest topic is and that is USA gold in hockey.
• 2:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we both agree that this is not the greatest moment in USA hockey history.
• 3:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's clearly number two or three.
• 3:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's
• 3:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: pretty clear.
• 3:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is number two.
• 3:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: We also agree that this is going to peak some interest in hockey, but probably not sustainable, but we'll let's just talk about winning gold and what that means to you.
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it is one of the greatest sports moments that we have had in the last 15 years.
• 3:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it just
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: what the team did in the fashion that did.
• 3:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: So against the phenomenal Canadian team for the most part, I don't really think people had a whole lot of hope that the United States could win this game.
• 3:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, they just played in the four nations.
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: You saw best on best, country wise, just a year ago, and candid on one.
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the United States won when it didn't matter in the round robin' form.
• 3:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: But then when the championship time came around, the stars of team candid are showed out.
• 3:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I personally expected that to happen again.
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that they were a team with Connor McDay with Nathan McKinnan with Maclin celebrating.
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: All the stars on this team, Kail McCart.
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: We can just go down the list of the NHL all stars that are on team Canada.
• 4:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think for the United States to go and win gold in that setting, in a time where there is a lot of division
• 4:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: profiling going on with sports, and how political it has been used as a, um, aroused against one side or another.
• 4:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just think for a moment, the country was united behind something and that means something to people.
• 4:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: It means something to me.
• 4:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was an excellent moment.
• 4:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do agree that it is not.
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: better than the miracle on ice, this was not a miracle United States team.
• 4:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: This was a 50-50 coin slip to is going to win this game.
• 4:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: The fact that they didn't get it, they weren't talking about it.
• 4:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: They were about it.
• 4:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what matters the most to me.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: One thing we wanted to discuss was how much of a bump this will have for hockey, a sport that is close to your heart.
• 5:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do you want to see happen with the future of hockey fandom?
• 5:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is fair to say that this will be a popularity boost for the sport in the country.
• 5:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to get more kids involved in the game after the United States, have previously won an international tournament.
• 5:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you've seen numbers boost.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I expect that USA hockey in the youth organization will see a significant growth.
• 5:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the biggest
• 5:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: outreach that they can do is continue to develop and more of their son belt markets that includes Phoenix, which now does not have an NHL team that includes Dallas, that includes Florida, specifically Tampa and South Florida with the Panthers.
• 5:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's where they want to see the growth.
• 6:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Second question.
• 6:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Indie car season starts this weekend.
• 6:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Alex below's one, three consecutive championships and four of five is odds.
• 6:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: The odds came out to win the Indie car championship and will he's one to two when the championship was just absurd in Indie car.
• 6:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the question I posed to you is not quite that absurd.
• 6:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Alex below or the field when the championship.
• 6:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I chose Alex below.
• 6:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's no secret I was with him the entire year last year.
• 6:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there is a single race car driver that can hold his job on the entire series.
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he is without question the most dominant racer of any series in the world.
• 6:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he is the best race car driver in the world, Greg.
• 6:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's out of reach to say that.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think what he's been able to do, what he's been able to accomplish speaks for itself.
• 6:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: He obviously won.
• 6:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: How many races was it last year, Greg?
• 6:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Was it?
• 6:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: seven eight races seven right races he won the NAF was five hundred he swept may in India he won the Grand Prix as well.
• 7:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Grink I just don't see it a driver on the circuit right now as talented as it is that can play with him with Chip Gnassy racing.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, Indie cars such a team sport and outflow just happens to be with what I believe is the best team and I think he's got the best strategist.
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he has the best engineer.
• 7:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he got the best car.
• 7:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think the best driver is sitting in that seat as well.
• 7:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I can clearly agree with you that Alex blows the best and he's got the best team, but.
• 7:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Potto award is great.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Joseph New Garden is great.
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Pinsky's great and Dreddy's great.
• 7:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot of really good competitors in this field.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And even last year when he won eight races, by the way, most of those races were competitive right to the end.
• 7:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Things go a little worse for below, maybe he doesn't win the championship.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you throw on top of that, there are things completely out of your control in Indycar.
• 8:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: The four weeks in a row, we can have a mechanical or an accident and be completely out of contention.
• 8:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's why I'm gonna stake one point will on the field, Scott Dixon, come on.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: One of these guys is going to be right there with Polo, I think.
• 8:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it just might be Pado Awards here.
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think either one of us are wrong for the stance that we have.
• 8:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just, I don't know if I believe in Joseph New Garden at this point.
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that last year just seemed to be so strange to me that I just, I don't know if it was a fluke.
• 8:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what it was.
• 8:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do agree that Scott Dixon does seem to have some mojo coming.
• 8:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought he ran phenomenal last year.
• 8:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I personally just kind of look at this series as a one man pony trick right now.
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see.
• 9:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think Pedro Award is probably the best competitor outside of Palau, so I guess can see that.
• 9:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it need anything else.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, the format is the person who answers the question first goes two minutes, two minutes to the next person, then 30 seconds each for a bottle.
• 9:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: We won't always need that.
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, I am putting a point on this is just the patient's year in the NBA draft lottery.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: It has to be, I had a dream like 20 years ago, the one day in the future, we would have a superstar who would take over the league and we would win championship after championship.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, well, I think it's Cameron Booser.
• 9:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to say,
• 9:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Question number three.
• 10:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll have him preach your protecting the top four.
• 10:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Pay off with a top four pick.
• 10:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say yes, will and your thoughts.
• 10:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna say no with that being said.
• 10:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think they still went in a long run because I think they went the NBA Finals in 2027.
• 10:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the writing's been on the wall.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: The league doesn't want the Pacers to be a lottery team.
• 10:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're doing everything.
• 10:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're creating things like a toilet.
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think of all the leagues, I believe the NBA controls their draft lottery the most.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it is the most rigged, rigged league.
• 10:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it is the easiest league to rig.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that there are always characters.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's always in the media and the talking head when they're smoke, they're fire.
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just think there's too much.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: verbage out there that they could control something for me to not believe some truth to it.
• 10:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think Adam Silver has it out for the Pacers.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why are the Pacers getting punished for their best player?
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Greg, who I believe is a superstar.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I believe has taken over the league.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think he gets the credit that he deserves from his peers.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: He surely gets it for me.
• 11:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel that this team doesn't get rewarded with that top pick, and it does not matter because next year they're still the best team to league by a lot may not be in the regular season, played this team seven games and try to win, run up and down with them, be as physical as you can with them.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: It does not matter.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: This team bullies the NBA when they're on expected to happen.
• 11:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: a fresh enough those tires, he's going to be ready.
• 11:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: When I think the patients are going to be really, really good.
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think as is, they are not a championship franchise.
• 11:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: They need that one more guy.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: They need that one more guy.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Whether it's Booser, Debonta, either one of those guys, I would be absolutely thrilled.
• 11:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I hope it's one of those two.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Caleb Wilson would, the potential upside, but you're talking about a championship next year.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: He probably wouldn't be much of a contributor to that.
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's quite ready yet at 19.
• 12:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: to play on a championship level team, but Booser and DeBonza might be.
• 12:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Peterson is a whole different discussion we'll have another time, but this is the year man.
• 12:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I hope they get it.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's May 10th.
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it might be the biggest day in Pacers history if that can hit.
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I sent a couple weeks ago, I think it is the biggest day in franchise history and Greg, this is a point I would love to be wrong about.
• 12:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because if they do get a top four protected pick, they are the best team to lead.
• 12:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter any of the four that they draft today immediately become the best team.
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do agree with you on the Peter's and thing.
• 12:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he is the piece of the puzzle that fits the least, given how this Pacer team is constructed right now.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do believe Cameron Buzer is a grown ass man.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: If I were
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: NBA General Manager, he would be unequivocally the only player I would take with the number one pick anything else You just fooling yourself when a castle is paying a picture Don't assume that it's your grandma who got drunk one night and decided to draw all over the floor.
• 13:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, assume it's Picasso and move on from that and Embrace the artistry that you Have witness with your advice
• 13:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just hope he doesn't go to a team I hate.
• 13:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And finally, Will, question number four, and I think this is the one closest to your and my heart of all of these, and it's who's going to win the National League Central.
• 13:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, Will, I think you could make a case for all five teams, the Cardinals
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Your two minutes is going to win the National Accentual.
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, why are we having this conversation like we don't know the answer of this?
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, we know exactly what's gonna happen.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: The Brewers are gonna win close to 100 games.
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to dominate the NL Central.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're gonna be gritty.
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to play just ethical baseball.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're gonna lay down to butt when they need it.
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to always bring the runner in.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to hit behind the runner.
• 14:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be incredible defensively.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Probably have a few gold Glovers on that team.
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Greg, everything about this brewer's team is built to win in an NFL central.
• 14:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think Jack's interior, he's been incredible for as young as a player as he is, and I still don't think he's had the breakout that we all expect.
• 14:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's going to happen.
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's not mention their pipeline is littered with top-end draft talent.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Greg, this Brewer's team is just on paper, not the team you would pick out of the reds and the cubs and the Brewer's, and that's exactly why you should pick them because this is just what the Milwaukee Brewer's do.
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, when it comes to the NLDS or CS, they're going to piss down their pants and they're going to embarrass the NL Central every single year.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: That is just a guarantee I would put my home on it.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: But they're going to win the NL Central.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: As good as the reds are, I think the reds make playoffs.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the Cubs are my team that faulters in the NL Central had the playoffs.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Kyle Tucker's a really big deal for the Cubs.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I said it last year and I was wrong.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was a year early on the reds.
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: It might be with my heart.
• 15:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got to be honest, it very well could be with my heart.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the two players I want to keep an eye on if they have breakout years, the reds might be able to and get, again, might be able to be on the same level with the fillies and the Dodgers, Mike.
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: if they can get breakout seasons for Matt McLean and from Chase Burns.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it happened.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think the reds are winning the division.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe after last year I swore.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would never pick against the brewers in the NL Central again because of what they do every freaking year.
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to win 98 games.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: The reds are going to win 100.
• 16:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's possible.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really do with this rotation.
• 16:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's one of six seven guys.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the bullpin might not be great, but it's deep in a lot of options.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you can get it up grade, it catcher along the way.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you can get 40 home runs from Swar as and a South Stuart can replace some guys who on the team who I just think are worthless at this point.
• 16:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: This could be a team that
• 16:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Challenges the winner hundred games.
• 16:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe not wins it, but I'm going to put a point on the reds will Well, Greg, if I was betting with my own money I would debt the pires.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think their odds I think I think that they're pitching staff is incredible and you know what Greg?
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was almost Illusional enough to try to take them here as winning the NL Central.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: They are my darling for the year.
• 17:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I said that with Uncle Paul on the MLB report a few weeks ago
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I still am going to stand firm with the brewers.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I hate the brewers.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: But and I just want to mention just when the cardinals are at their worst, it's when the best comes out.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: So don't sleep on the cardinals just yet.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Every freaking time will every time in my life, I think that I've counted the cardinals out.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've had one of their best seasons ever.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's you.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uncamming.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uncamming.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: hate the car.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not as much as the cubs, but I hate the car.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that was great.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we're a couple of weeks away from a really good show here.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe hopefully next week after section a week is probably what we're aiming for.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe two weeks from now.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we do this kind of experimental thing again.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then we go full the following week with fan participation.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
• 18:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Before we go your NL central order of finish, and you'll get a chance to amend this later, of course, because we'll make our official predictions on the MLB report and probably on this podcast as well.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: But as of right now, as of February 25th, 26th,
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cubs, Pirates, but you could see any order, couldn't you?
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't see in order where the Brewers aren't top two, every other team I think can move.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you're absolutely right, that is spot on except I'll take the rents, and I'll take the Cubs over the card.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Greg, I think I went great.
• 19:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so excited for the new format.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think with fan engagement, if we can get people of the people buying into what we're selling, I think this has a chance to make a big time.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I hope that we can become more than the 20 second largest podcast in Finland and hopefully the number one in Mauritania.
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Craig, this isn't a geography podcast, but if we want to make it one we could, with that being said, we want to be number one in Central Indiana, and we want to be number one in the US.
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do it, will those days are worth it?
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do it, will those days are worth it, right?
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Those days are ahead of us.
• 19:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be number one in the US.
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do it, will those days are worth it, will those days are worth it, will those days are worth it, will those days are worth it, will those days are worth it, will those days are worth it, will those days are worth it, will those days are worth it, will those days are worth it, will those days are worth it, will those days are worth it, will those days are worth it, will those days are worth it, will those days are worth it, will those days are worth it