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The Swans, Taylor Swift, Jay Z’s Secret with Brandy and Julie · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
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  Speaker 1: for it?
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  Speaker 2: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
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  Speaker 2: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
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  Speaker 1: It's Dunaidial. Where? Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 2: There's an accent on the E.
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  Speaker 1: Do you mean... Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 3: Lift?
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  Speaker 1: Please. Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 4: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 4: When you're on the road, when you're on the.
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  Speaker 1: Go, Juicy Scoop is.
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  Speaker 4: The show to know.
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  Speaker 2: She talks Hollywood tales for real life, Mr.
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  Speaker 1: You'll be addicted and addicted.
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  Speaker 4: Fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in,
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  Speaker 4: listen up.
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  Speaker 1: Woo, woo. Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 4: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have your two
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  Speaker 1: favorite gals, Brandi Howard, Julie Goldman. Welcome back to the
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  Speaker 1: Juicy Scoop headquarters. And how are you?
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  Speaker 4: The ever-changing Juicy Scoop headquarters.
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  Speaker 1: It just gets more chic, more exciting.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I really, I love this particular studio. I am here
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  Speaker 1: because I'm trying to step it up a notch, have
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  Speaker 1: the most efficient show possible. But of course, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people still say I mispronounce words and why don't
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  Speaker 1: I get a speech therapist? And I just want to
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  Speaker 1: say I did go to speech therapy when I was
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  Speaker 1: like four or five or even younger. I couldn't say spoon.
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  Speaker 1: So it did work because I can say spoon now.
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  Speaker 4: What was our issue? Do we have a lisp?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. My mom just was like, Well, part
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  Speaker 1: of it was that I was the youngest of five.
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  Speaker 1: And so I didn't have to talk because they did
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  Speaker 1: everything for me. So I would just point and grunt.
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  Speaker 1: And so my mom, I think she thought I couldn't talk.
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  Speaker 1: And but I actually could. I just, you know, was like, why?
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  Speaker 1: And then I started to talk and nobody really realized
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  Speaker 1: that I said words and things incorrectly and tell this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: And some women my age, they really like to point
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  Speaker 1: it out. And listen, I'm going to tell you right now,
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  Speaker 1: it's not going to get any better. I am not
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  Speaker 1: looking to improve that part of my life.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what they want. I don't know what
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  Speaker 5: they want.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what they want.
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  Speaker 1: What do they want? I think it's they love the
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  Speaker 1: podcast so much, but this one thing bothers them and
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  Speaker 1: triggers them. And they're like, why don't you fix it?
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  Speaker 1: And I go, because I don't have to. No. I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing great.
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  Speaker 4: You have to learn to fall in love with it.
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  Speaker 4: I fidget all the time. People I know, and I'll
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  Speaker 4: have to apologize, like, sorry, I'm fidgeting. And it's like,
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  Speaker 4: learn to love it.
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  Speaker 1: This is who you are.
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  Speaker 4: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: This is who you are.
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  Speaker 5: This is who you are.
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 5: If you don't like it, then just go somewhere else.
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  Speaker 1: But this is who you are. Lucky for you, there
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  Speaker 1: is one or two other podcasts in the world that
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  Speaker 1: you can enjoy. Just a couple.
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  Speaker 4: Just a couple. Not too many.
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  Speaker 1: No, no. Speaking of which, a juicy scooper. I will
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  Speaker 1: post this on my Instagram and tag her because I
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  Speaker 1: don't have it in front of me. She is making
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  Speaker 1: these great sweatshirts for the Super Bowl. And it is
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  Speaker 1: Go Taylor's Boyfriend. I love it.
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  Speaker 5: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 5: I have, you know, for me personally, I don't even
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  Speaker 5: follow football. I don't follow sports. I know that's shocking.
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  Speaker 1: However.
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  Speaker 5: I am so invested in Taylor's boyfriend. Now, I am
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  Speaker 5: into it. I am into their love. I am into
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  Speaker 5: the entire thing. People need to get into it. She
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  Speaker 5: is the queen.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. And I just did an interview with Harvey Levin
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  Speaker 1: about Taylor and Travis and what I think their future is.
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  Speaker 1: He has a new show called TMZ Investigates. And this
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  Speaker 1: is coming out, I don't know, in the next couple days.
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  Speaker 1: I just did it for free, by the way. You
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  Speaker 1: don't get paid.
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  Speaker 4: Did you do the Kanye or you did the Taylor Swift?
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  Speaker 1: I did Taylor Swift.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, because they do.
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  Speaker 1: I know. I could have done Kanye too.
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  Speaker 4: And they do Britney.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully they'll bring me on all the time. I'm happy
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  Speaker 1: to do it for free.
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  Speaker 4: For free because that's the way this works.
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  Speaker 1: It's an interview and it's publicity. For free. Guess what?
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  Speaker 1: It all works out. But I guess I was talking
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  Speaker 1: about on my Patreon, heathermcdoll.net, Patreon. And I was talking
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  Speaker 1: about how Brittany Mahomes always gets a lot of crap.
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  Speaker 1: People think she's a rude bitch or whatever. And I
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  Speaker 1: referred to her. I go, she's I go, I guess
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  Speaker 1: she's married to Taylor's boyfriend's friend. Good one.
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  Speaker 4: Just Patrick Mahomes.
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  Speaker 1: It's fine.
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  Speaker 4: He's like three times Super Bowl champs.
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  Speaker 1: He and Kelsey are. Travis Kelsey. They're like buddies. They
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  Speaker 1: like hang out and talk in the locker room or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because Patrick Mahomes is the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: So he's like the leader of the team. Yeah, that's nice.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, so let's get into a couple Grammy news.
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  Speaker 4: I do want to say for everyone from California, including yourself,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to root for the Niners because I'm born
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  Speaker 4: and raised in California.
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  Speaker 1: And I have been born and raised in California. And
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  Speaker 1: I am not going to root for them. You're going
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  Speaker 1: to go for the Taylor Swift boyfriend. Because I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to go for the Taylor Swift because, not because of Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm going to go, I'm going to be rooting
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  Speaker 1: for the boy mom, which is Mrs. Kelsey. She is
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  Speaker 1: a boy mom of two.
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  Speaker 4: Or perhaps the hottest guy.
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  Speaker 1: And I have, but I'm not saying it's not necessarily about,
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  Speaker 1: it's about, I want her to enjoy another Super Bowl win.
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  Speaker 5: But what about the moms of the Niners guys?
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  Speaker 4: All the other boys, because they're all men.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you're right.
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  Speaker 5: The moms are of all men.
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  Speaker 4: You're right. I think you mean the hottest boy mom.
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  Speaker 4: I think he has the best looking guy.
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  Speaker 1: You're feeling drama because of Taylor and drama. Yes, I'm
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  Speaker 1: feeling it. Honestly, the truth is I don't care who wins.
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  Speaker 1: I think it'll be a really fun game. I've enjoyed
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  Speaker 1: this time. I've enjoyed that little girls are watching the
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  Speaker 1: game with their dads. I enjoy that people are into it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand anybody that's weird and not happy and
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  Speaker 1: angry about it. Very strange. It's all good. It's not
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  Speaker 1: affecting anything. I think she's the most down-to-earth football girlfriend.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I remember... Do you remember when... Um, wait,
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  Speaker 1: Kim was dating. What's this? Reggie. No.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Reggie Miller?
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  Speaker 1: No. Oh, Reggie.
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  Speaker 4: Kim Kardashian. Yeah, Reggie... Bush?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, she was dating Reggie Bush.
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  Speaker 4: What about Jessica Simpson?
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  Speaker 1: That was the worst. And when they won, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I remember Chris and Kim ran out on the field first,
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  Speaker 1: you know? So, look.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, those were the days.
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  Speaker 1: And when he just won this last week, she, you know,
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  Speaker 1: hugged and kissed him and then was like, go be
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  Speaker 1: with your brother, go be with your teammates. She stood back.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The brother, by the way, of Travis Kelsey is not
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  Speaker 4: on the team. But Heather's not concerned about the boy
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  Speaker 4: mom of him.
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  Speaker 5: But he's on another team, right?
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  Speaker 4: Who didn't get into the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. Also, and he has daughters. I made a mistake recently.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, I predict that Travis will have boys. No,
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  Speaker 1: Travis will have daughters. That's what I said. Travis will
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  Speaker 1: have daughters. And then the mom will be like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what to do with girls, like the grandma.
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  Speaker 1: But then they said, no, she already has granddaughters. So
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  Speaker 1: now I go back. And I think they'll have one
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  Speaker 1: of each. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: That's nice. I do think they'll have a daughter, though.
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  Speaker 1: Who doesn't want to watch?
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  Speaker 5: Aren't we excited to watch these guys treating these girls nicely?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Aren't we?
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  Speaker 5: Isn't that what we want to see? These big football
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  Speaker 5: players being nice to the girlfriends. That guy goes to
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  Speaker 5: her concerts. He does nothing but... I mean, we don't
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  Speaker 5: know what happens behind the scenes. But it seems like
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  Speaker 5: he's super nice. He treats her well.
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  Speaker 4: She.
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  Speaker 5: I just, this is what we want.
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  Speaker 1: We don't want to see the elevator footage. No, we
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  Speaker 1: don't want no more elevator footage of people treating their
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  Speaker 1: wives and girlfriends horribly.
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  Speaker 5: Exactly. He's not murdering dogs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I do want to say, I mean.
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  Speaker 4: This happened with Jessica Simpson and Tony Romo.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And it was like, she's ruining, she's put a curse
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  Speaker 4: on the Cowboys and Jessica Simpson's gorgeous and in the
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  Speaker 4: stands and from Texas and it's the Cowboys. And it's like,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, she was dragged to hell and back.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it weird? You think she's bitter now? Just kind
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  Speaker 1: of how like Lala on Vanderpump is like, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: get the love. When my fiance cheated on me, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't get the adoration and the love like Ariana. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think at one point Jessica Simpson remembers that she
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  Speaker 1: dated Tony and didn't get the love?
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  Speaker 5: That is the name of her one-woman show, how Jessica
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  Speaker 5: Simpson remembers. I don't know if you know that. But
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure she does remember.
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  Speaker 1: Who wouldn't remember?
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure she's like, you know what? This is what happened,
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  Speaker 4: exactly what happened to her, though.
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  Speaker 1: Or is she happy that it's not happening to Taylor? Like, good,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad I paved the way.
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  Speaker 5: But it is happening to Taylor.
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  Speaker 3: What is it?
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  Speaker 1: I walked so you could run?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You stand on my shoulders at the football game, by
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  Speaker 5: the way.
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  Speaker 1: But it is happening to Taylor.
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  Speaker 5: She's getting so much hate.
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  Speaker 1: They're blaming her. She got a little hate for this.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Grammys. So she wins the album
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  Speaker 1: of the year and she's so thrilled and she comes
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  Speaker 1: up and Celine came out with her son, which was
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  Speaker 1: very nice. I mean, he has a nice short haircut
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  Speaker 1: because I always remember when he was a boy that
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  Speaker 1: looked like, you know. Like he was Tarzan or something.
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  Speaker 1: He had long hair and people were freaked out that
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  Speaker 1: he had long hair. Anyway.
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  Speaker 4: I thought she had two sons. Did she have two sons?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. She had twins after him. Oh, okay. I get it.
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  Speaker 1: But this is the oldest boy.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, he came out and escorted her. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: of course she's suffering from stiff person syndrome and I
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  Speaker 1: guess there's no cure or it's not getting better. So
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  Speaker 1: we don't know when she'll perform again, though she looked
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  Speaker 1: and sounded good. And, but, so then Taylor wins. She's so,
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  Speaker 1: so excited. She's hugging everybody. And she just took the
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  Speaker 1: award from Celine and she didn't acknowledge Celine. Prior to that,
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  Speaker 1: Miley did a great acknowledgement to her presenter, which was
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  Speaker 1: Mariah Carey. And so she got a lot of shit
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  Speaker 1: for it. She since, I'm sure, has come up to
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  Speaker 1: an apologizer. We see them hugging here backstage. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: people want to find something. wrong with her because there's
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  Speaker 1: so little that you can find wrong with Taylor. But
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  Speaker 1: I would say I'm sure Celine didn't care. And it's, God,
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  Speaker 1: just give someone a moment. You can't always be thinking
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  Speaker 1: about everybody at every moment, at every second. Like, let
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  Speaker 1: me just have a moment. And I just knew I'd
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: already wasted so much time getting up there that I
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  Speaker 1: took the thing and wanted to get right to my speech.
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  Speaker 5: I did see that moment. And from my perception, anyway,
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  Speaker 5: there was.
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  Speaker 1: So much happening.
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  Speaker 5: And she was distracted, like something was going on. And
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  Speaker 5: then she took it and then it sort of seemed
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  Speaker 5: like she had to just keep going. It didn't seem
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  Speaker 5: like a snub like, oh, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: There's a new queen in town. Yeah, no, I totally agree.
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  Speaker 4: And Trevor Noah did tell them in his monologue, you
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  Speaker 4: need to take two minutes. We're not doing 10 minute speech.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that was like a thing in his full
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  Speaker 4: comedy monologue to make it quick. I didn't think it seemed,
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  Speaker 4: and maybe this moment could have happened even prior. Bitch
• 10:58
  Speaker 4: knew she was winning. And she knew Celine Dion was giving.
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  Speaker 1: It to her. Yeah, what do you think about the
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: whole Jay-Z and Blue Ivy and what he said about
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  Speaker 1: Beyoncé being that she's won the most awards but still
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  Speaker 1: hasn't won for the album? Very reminiscent of Kanye being like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to let you have your award. I think
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  Speaker 1: kind of a diss on Taylor since she won. And
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  Speaker 1: she's won four times. Why do you have to say that?
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  Speaker 4: First of all, I do want to say, Was that
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  Speaker 4: Blue Ivy next to Jay-Z? She looked so cute. I
• 11:31
  Speaker 4: didn't even know that that was her because he never
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: really addressed her, even though that's her mother that he
• 11:35
  Speaker 4: was talking about. I thought it was weird. I was like,
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: maybe that's not Blue Ivy, but I loved, I thought
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: she looked so cute. Whoever that girl was, I was like, well,
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: that little girl is just adorable. And I only know
• 11:44
  Speaker 4: this from TMZ and I want to thank Harvey Levin
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: personally because that is my favorite show on TV, Heather.
• 11:50
  Speaker 4: It's the only reason I keep cable. It's literally so funny.
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: It's really, it is a solid show. It comes on
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  Speaker 4: every day. I'm like, here's my sitcom. I'm going to
• 11:58
  Speaker 4: watch this now. It's toxic masculinity. It's so funny. I
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: love that show. So they played this moment. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I thought that it was, Jay-Z is living his best
• 12:10
  Speaker 4: Ozempic life and looks better than ever. Yes. Which I
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  Speaker 4: was thrilled about.
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  Speaker 1: He and 50 getting the shots together.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, getting the shots together. I thought it was, I
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  Speaker 4: honestly didn't mind. I think that, Beyonce has lost to
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  Speaker 4: great to Adele, to Taylor Swift. But then she did
• 12:31
  Speaker 4: lose to Beck, which I do think might not be
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  Speaker 4: the move. And the Grammys, like the Academy Awards, like
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: the Emmys. I mean, they do. It does start getting
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  Speaker 4: very political. And I do feel like Beyonce has lost.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think she's won the right things, quite frankly.
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  Speaker 4: So I wasn't even mad at her. I was like,
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  Speaker 4: you want to give him a Lifetime Achievement Award? And
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: he wants to go up there and talk about his
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: wife in a respectful way. I was like, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Also, you know what I just realized? I think that
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  Speaker 1: was a deliberate move because there's been some rumblings in
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: all the stuff that's come out about P. Diddy and
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: men and boys and what goes down with the Cat
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: Williams thing. a conversation. And I saw some rumors about
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  Speaker 1: Jay-Z and what may have really been the fight about
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: that in the elevator with her sister.
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  Speaker 4: Well, wasn't Becky with the good hair?
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't Becky with the good hair. Maybe it
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: was Brad with the good hair.
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  Speaker 4: Well, then slow clap. And now you really need album
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  Speaker 4: of the year, honey. You really need album of the
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  Speaker 4: year if it's Brad with the good hair.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. What? All rumored, all rumored, but I'm just wondering
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  Speaker 1: if he took this moment... There is a real love
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  Speaker 1: and there's a real family there, but kind of took
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: the moment to be like, again, what a great husband.
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  Speaker 1: Just like when she showed her belly with, and Kanye
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  Speaker 1: was normal at the time and he jumped on Jay-Z
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  Speaker 1: is like, that's your sperm, man. You had a fast swimmer.
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  Speaker 1: You made that baby happen. You know, like that kind of.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 5: I love their love.
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  Speaker 1: Good dad-husband moment.
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  Speaker 4: They've been through a lot. And I do really, really
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  Speaker 4: do love Beyonce. I thought it was nice. I was
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  Speaker 4: fine with it. I'm like, you know, I.
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  Speaker 1: Really did like it. I really did. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The other drama was that, I guess in Trevor Noah's monologue,
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: he mentioned how Universal Music Group, who represents Taylor Swift
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: and Drake. Now, Heather, we don't do TikTok, but we
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: know you're a TikTok sensation.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. I don't use a lot of music, though. Which
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: is probably why some of mine didn't get a lot
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  Speaker 1: of hits, but now I'm happy because I don't have to,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: those aren't. You don't have to care. Yeah. I don't
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: have some million dollar thing, million view thing that's now
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: been taken down. Right. So does that mean every video
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: that you use that music now has to be taken down? Yeah.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Like YouTube. Oh my God. Well, I'm so glad I
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: didn't use the music. So all those dance videos and
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: everything where it's like.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, now I don't know if the past ones have
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: to be removed, but no more videos utilizing, but maybe
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: they do.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: And it's I don't know the answer. Because what?
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: TikTok wouldn't make a deal with Universal. And that's a
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: lot of huge artists. Yeah. And then but Trevor Noah
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: did say, come on, TikTok, you're not supposed to be
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: ripping off the artist. That's for Spotify. Yeah. And that's
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: a pretty good joke. I thought that was strong. But yeah,
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's going to be a blow to TikTok,
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: I think, because I mean, I think that's.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Why I enjoy TikTok sometimes more than going on reels.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: is because there is so much music and I get
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: sucked in when I see, you know, I love A
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Soldier Coming Home. I'm coming home, coming home. Is that
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: a universal art of this? All the world I'm coming home.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Or the one that's like the red, white, and blue one,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: That's Toby Keith probably just died.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Wait, how did he die? Toby Keith just died?
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: Yes, he died Tuesday.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: But what did he die of?
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: He died of cancer.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Wow. And he died Tuesday.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: And he sings that, Heather.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I hope they don't have to take that one down.
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: Where they're blind and then they see with the glasses.
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: Or they're colorblind. And then they see color for the
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: first time.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Baby with hearing! Baby with hearing! Wait, little kid, little boy,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: little tough boy who gets his first puppy and cries?
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: How about waking up your mom? How about mom slash
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: grandma getting a puppy because the other one died? Try
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: not to cry at that one.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Better when it's a six-year-old dad. Saw that.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: Saw it when they brought it in the box and
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: he's sitting on the couch.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: I literally thought you guys were going to talk about
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: like sexy teenagers dancing to Drake.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: But no. I'm coming home.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: It's like soldiers. How about soldiers coming home and then
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: the dog sees them.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Also female soldiers. I'm big on a big female. I
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: get a lot of female soldiers now coming home.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: And the kids see their mom for the first time.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: The dog reunited.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: At a pep rally.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: The dog reunited.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Forget it.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Heather, it did remind me.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Mom hidden.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: When you're singing.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Soldier mom hidden as a mascot. at a pep rally.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: Ooh, surprising kids. How about mom or dad surprising kid
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: in the elementary school for bringing your parents to school day?
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I feel really sorry for the soldier that comes home
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: And their family didn't plan on filming it and didn't surprise.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Like maybe it's a surprise, but maybe it wasn't. One
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: of them was just like, okay, great. So you're coming
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: at this time.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Great.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited to see you. And then like a
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: 12 year old was like, mom, why didn't you tell
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: me that? You know, my brother, John, who's 20 was
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: coming home. Like I could have had a million views.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Like we should have surprised mom. You're so stupid, dad.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Or they come home and they're like, I'm home.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: And nothing.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, I thought you were coming home
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: next Saturday. Well, I would have liked to have known.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Look at this house. It's a mess. Bill, did you
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: know that Timmy was coming home a week early? God
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: damn it. I made your room a sewing room.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: We put our treadmill in there. Give us time to
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: get it out.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: We have an exchange student.
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: They don't have another place to go.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: Sorry.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: You're going to sleep on the couch. You slept on
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: a cot in Kuwait.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: Where were you?
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Ugh.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: Who sings Coming Home, you guys?
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: All the world, I'm coming home. Oh, yeah.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: It reminds me that you didn't do it.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: And I hear her overweights.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Yes. Who sings that?
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I hope they don't take it from me, but we're
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: singing that little bit on YouTube.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Wait, Heather, why did you not do any Celine Dion
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: for the people? I know you've got a Celine Dion.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: It's been so long, but I used to do a
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Celine bit.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Didn't you do it with Fortune?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: We did. No, no, not with Fortune. We did it, Guy,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: and I did it. Like a vintage Chelsea Lately.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: No.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, maybe Chelsea Lately. But vintage, like he was Renee,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: rest in peace, and I was Celine. and i was
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: like oh hello you know you know what would i
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: say let me think what i used to do you
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: know she like adele like to do like stand up
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: in between songs you know so she thought she was
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: real funny you know and she's like oh my renee
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: he's made everything and when i met him when i
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: was 12 i did not know he'd be the love
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: of my life and i was like.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: What exactly but anyway love her um.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, a lot of people were not into this look
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: by Doja Cat, and she had all these tattoos, but
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: they said they are not all real. Also, her nips
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: were showing, if they are her nips. And also, she
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: went with a see-through. uh skirt with a um bush underneath.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: You know i did see i don't know where i
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: saw it but there's dresses that make the bush.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Oh it's hard to believe she's got a bush but
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: if she does i'm here for.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: It but i have to say all my predictions have
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: come true i said the new fashion would either be First,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I said it would be vagina cleavage, which is where
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: the vagina meets your thigh, that little line.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Like from like the Frankie B days?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: No, no, the thigh, not the top. There's top vagina cleavage,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: which is the bone. Then there's the side. which they're
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: making pants like that now with full cutouts where you
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: get the side of your vag, meaning the thigh. I've
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: predicted that. Butt cleavage, that's been around for years. And
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: now it is full bush through a see-through. I mean,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: this year was all about see-through dresses. It was all
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: about wearing a bikini cover-up on the red carpet. And now,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: don't even wear the bikini. Just wear the sheer thing on.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: To get the attention, and she got it. But I
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: guess the tattoo on her forehead is fake.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Do you think this is a fake bush?
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: She doesn't strike me as somebody who would have a bush.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do, because it's a way to be controversial,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: like your vagina's out, but it's not really, because she
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: wore a little G-string for, what do you call it?
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: There's a Jewish word for it. A birkam? A birkam?
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Not a birkam.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: Oh, like her, you mean like a shadel?
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: There is a, isn't there a Jewish pubic wig?
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: What's that fake wig?
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: A merkin?
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Yes. Ah, yes.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that that was a, I didn't realize
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: that that was a Jewish thing.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Now she's a young girl and the young girls like
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: to have hair. That's coming back?
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: I'm fully bald and it's lasered and it's just a
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: done deal.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, good for you.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: I'm fine with it.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Of course you should be.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: But I don't mind seeing her bush.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: You know what? I wonder if as women get more
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: and more plastic surgery and appear to be younger. I
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: remember working on the Kenan and Wayne show and he
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: had a joke where he said no matter how good
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: a girl looks, he knew how old they were because
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: they had the shot on their arm that was a
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: vaccination that left a little scar. And it meant that
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: today you would definitely be over 50. 60-something, because I
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: don't have it. My mom has it.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: Oh, the tuberculosis. I think that's where it's from.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I think that's for tuberculosis. It was like a badge
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: of like, don't try to lie, because we know you
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: got that shot. So now I wonder if women of
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: a certain age that went through the laser period and
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: are bald forever, trying to pass themselves off as younger women,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: guys will be like, I know you're not that young
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: because you're lasered down there and the new look is
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: full bush.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Just like when they had the pencil eyebrow.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: She did too. She did the pencil brow here too.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Oh, she's giving Playboy. Although the Playboy one was more
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: like that circle.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: It's just the thinness. Yeah. The thinness.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard to get that back. I hope
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: that's not real.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I'll never do that.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, when you tweeze those out, you can't get
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: them back. But- That's also a giveaway of like a
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: 90s person.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: What did you think of Miley cosplaying Jane Fonda's hair
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: from nine to five?
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: I feel like she I personally kind of like like her.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I love her. Yeah, I love her. Her body is banging.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I love that she added the extra words to the song,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: you know, where she did the when she sang flowers.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: She was like, you know, I you know, she's like
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: going through the song again. And she's like, you know,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: before she says I can buy myself, she says like,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: we broke up. I did that. And then she's like,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: and I just won a Grammy. I can buy myself
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: a new home. And then everyone went crazy, including Taylor,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: who supports everybody. Oh, I wanted to say this about Taylor.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: She brought Lana Del Rey on the red carpet. I guess,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: do they have a song where they collaborated or are
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: they just friends?
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: I don't, I think Taylor Swift has... They have the
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: same producer, the guy from Fun, and I feel like
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Taylor Swift has really gotten heavily influenced by Lana Del Rey,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: and I think it's been very obvious, certainly since 2020 on,
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: ever fucking more and green and all those albums. I
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: think it was just a tribute because of that. I
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: didn't know they ever collaborated. If they did, it was
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I don't think a big hit.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: So they came on the red carpet together. She fixed
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: her hair. There's videos of Taylor being like a really
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: good friend. Like, I have lipstick. They're touching each other
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: like anybody else going to a party. And Lana Del
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Rey also has a huge campaign, Valentine's campaign with Skims,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: which is Kim Kardashian's company, which Kim was a real
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: bitch to Taylor and really upset Taylor. because she spread
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: lies about Taylor with Kanye, and it was very devastating
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: to Taylor to wake up and have people be like,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: you're a liar, you're a piece of shit, you know,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: and she went away for a year and it really
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: affected her. It's years later, but, you know, Taylor is
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: classy enough not to remind the world that often of
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: what a piece of shit Kim was to her in
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: manipulating that. Um, and her friend, Lana had a big
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: opportunity and she was like, go for it. I'm not
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: going to lose a friend over you taking an opportunity
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: to get this. Let Kim pay you millions, you know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: and also Lana Del Rey saying her song, um, at
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the engagement of Kanye and Kim, they played the song,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: you know, we used to, well, you still love me
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: when I'm no longer young and beautiful. And then she
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: sang it at the wedding. So there is a history
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: there with Kim as well. And so I do respect
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: that as a Hollywood friendship that is going to have
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: to transcend her being friends with other people that have
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: done Taylor wrong.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Something we can all learn from.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: I think we can.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: And it did predate, or did it? I guess it
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: did not predate that wedding. I mean, I thought that
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: really truly did feel, regardless if they have ever one
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: song together, That Taylor needed and it was necessary for
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: her to acknowledge the influence that Lana Del Rey has
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: had on her music because it is enormous and it
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: is obvious to big Taylor fans. And so I thought
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: that was a cool move. I'm not like that into
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Lana Del Rey, but whatever. I mean, I like her music, but.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: This is a photo TMZ back grid. Kanye. Kanye. It's
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: raining in L.A. It's been traumatic. It's been going on
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: for almost two days.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: So traumatic, you guys.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: And it is very traumatic for certain people. There are
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: mudslides and there are leaks and stuff.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: It's traumatic for me walking in here. I was just like, oh,
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: my God. What's going on?
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: I had water blow through the window.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: You did. That is scary. It is scary. Just drops
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: of water.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: It was bubbling, blowing water.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Through the window.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Terrifying. Put a beach towel on. Anyway. Kanye is wearing
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: a weird tarp and he's wearing his black nylon mask
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: all over his head and his boots. But Bianca is
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: just wearing a poncho rain thing with nothing underneath. She
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: can't have underwear. She can't have sweats. She can't full
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: vag out, full nip in plastic. to avoid being rained on.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Is he that much? I don't, I just don't even understand.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: Is he that much of a Svengali? Is he that,
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: is he that Trumpy over her? I don't understand it.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: They're doing, they're doing BDSM. I mean, they're doing like
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: dominant submissive sexual behavior and kink. I have wanted to
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: make Julie put a latex mask and make me cream
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: of wheat. I have asked her. I'm currently not making
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: her call me sir or master, but when the cream-
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: There's certain.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: Things that I'll do, and there's certain things that I won't.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: When the cream of wheat is made- What is a
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: cream of wheat mean?
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I don't get it.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Now, he made her put on a latex, black latex,
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: skin-tight latex.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: That's like putting a black condom over your face.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: It's so tight.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: She's in pasties and a thong, and she's making cream
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: of wheat.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's when she was making the cream of wheat.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Making the cream of wheat.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Photo.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: And it's like- It's hot.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: Over the stove.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: The mask is on. I can't take it.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: I just can't take it.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I don't stand by my thing. We won't know for years.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Until she decides to go on a podcast or save
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: it for her own iHeart podcast. Where she will reveal
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: that she was in fact paid. I 100% think she's
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: getting paid. I think she's getting paid weekly under the table.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: It's getting sent to Australia to her family. And that's
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the only reason why they are not freaking out. Because
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: they're like, she's like, I could be doing OnlyFans or
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I could be doing this, making this change. And I'm
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: going to have a great story after. I'm not being hurt.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I'm okay. I have time off alone. We don't even
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: have sex. He is a weirdo, but I'm doing it
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: for the money. That is what I think. I do
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: not think this is a couple in love.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: But you don't think they have sex?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think they have sex, and I don't think
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: they're a couple in love. I think it's a total transaction.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: She's getting paid.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Well, according to Fifty Shades of Grey, when you sign
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: the BDSM agreement, you do get paid, even if you
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: are forced to make love, as one would call it
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: in a BDSM.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: To the person. Oh.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: So even if they are.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Even though you're like their slave. Right. This slave gets paid.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: You get paid.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: In the contract, you get like a monetary compensation. But yeah,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: you are a sex slave.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: You're a sex slave.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: So this does give me sex slave vibes. Yes.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: That's what they're trying to portray. But I think on
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: top of it. Yes. That she is not in a
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: bad place. that she is aware that this is what
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: is going on.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: It's performance art.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: This is his era of there was the Jesus era
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: and the church era. And now there was the fashion era.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: And now there's this era.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: But no, is he having sex at all? Do you
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: think with sex? Anyone.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe with Brad and the good hair. Maybe with Brad
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: and the good hair.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Cat Williams would know. Ask him.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: I'm going to choose to think that.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: She seems to know everything.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: I'm going to choose to think what you're saying, that
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: she's just getting paid.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, I go to sleep better at night. I
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: do hope they're doing it, though. I go to sleep
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: better at night thinking that, but I truly believe it, too.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I hope that they are doing it, though, because— You
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: hope they're having sex.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope she's slightly— a lot of times in BDSM
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: relationships— I think he needs to go on the L.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest. Because he's- Packed on a
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: few LBs.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Well, and he did do lipo, and that's what got
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: him addicted to the opioids.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute. He did lipo after his own mother
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: died of doing lipo? How did you know this is
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: a legend?
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: Because he said it on a podcast, you know, that
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: morning- Sway?
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, Breakfast Club?
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: So he said it on there, because I just went
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: into a weird, for no reason, called not doing work
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: that we should be doing- For our collaboration.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: I decided to go into a Kanye deep dive of
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: everything that I already knew.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: But basically Megan Thee Stallion did a tweet where she's like,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: all these guys out here talking about how they don't
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: like BBLs, but they have their same scars on their stomachs.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: So then all these people on Twitter were putting a
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: ton of pictures of Drake and saying Drake had lipo
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: on his stomach. And they're like, yeah, but why he's
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: skinny but ain't got no pecs? And like, why he
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: have abs but no chest? And like all this.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: And it was. Right, which you absolutely can make male
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: abs in the operating room.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: And then no arm definition. And I'm spending hours enjoying myself.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: And then someone comes in with a bogey and goes,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: it's not Drake. It's Kanye. He admitted he got lipo.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: He said he criticized BBLs against Kim and her family
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: when he went on that rampage against the Kardashians and Jenners.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: And then he went on The Breakfast Club and said
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: he got lipo because he didn't want to be heavy
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: like Rob was at their wedding. And this is all there.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, I would listen to the whole interview because
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: I need help myself and I need to be on
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: the meds he's on. And it was like Rob had
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: to leave the wedding because it was heavy. And I'm
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: trying to make y'all happy. And I got lipo. And
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: then that's how he got addicted to opioids because he
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: did have an addiction to opioids, which is sort of
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: what set this all off.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Because I didn't. See the Breakfast Club video? I'm just
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: going to say all this is a legend.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: About his lipo, but I believe you.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, one of us just formed themselves.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I just don't need it.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Well, you said he needs to go on Ozempic.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: You're right. I'm a bitch. Okay. Taylor Swift threatens to
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: sue this college junior who runs a social media account
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: that tracks her private jet and accusing him of stalking
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: and harassing behavior. So this guy, she's not the only
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: jet that he does. He figured out a little niche
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: and- And he does do that. So they sent him
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: a cease and desist, which I totally think is appropriate.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: This is for her safety and everything. And he's putting
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: it out there. But I also feel like he found
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: a little niche. He's 21 years old. Everybody tells everything
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: on social media. So I don't blame him, but I
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: do think he needs to stop doing it.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: I think he's a little dick.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He's a little asshole.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: I'll say that. Because then it knows, here's me saying it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I wonder if his social media handle is Taylor Swift obsessed.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Like what? You got nothing better to do?
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: You have nothing better to do than follow where she's
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: going all the time? We know where she's going, but
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: you need to follow. There's a whole thing with the
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: private jet now too and her and whatever with climate
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: change and people shouldn't talk about climate change and take
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: a private jet and whatever.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: And it's like, you know what?
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: She's when you go on tour or what? I want
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: to go to private jet. I believe climate change.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I would love to go on a private jet. I
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: would love to go on a private jet.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: We go on cruises all the time.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: I would love to jet around. The worst for climate change. Yeah, exactly.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: I believe in climate change. There's lots that we should
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: be doing. But yeah, if somebody pays me to go
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: work on a cruise, I'm going to go. And if
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: I had an ability to do a private jet, I
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: would take a private jet. And if I was Taylor Swift,
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: who has a billion dollars and changes full state's economy,
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: I would get a private jet.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: To go where I'm going. Yes, and I think the
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: state would pay for that private jet. I'm sure that
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: is covered in her cost.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: Is she going to go on Delta?
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: And even then, it's still so many people on the jet,
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: like whoever. It's still a ton of people. It's still
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: just basically a plane, I think.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: We almost had to deplane because this dad of a
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: toddler was unhappy with him not being able to take
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: his carry-on. The toddlers were perfectly behaved. The dad... and
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: his husband they got the boot so but at one
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: point we thought we all had to deplane and I
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: was like wow this hasn't happened to me yet but
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I guess this is what happens when someone is a
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: dick so yeah imagine if that happened to Taylor and
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: there's a stadium waiting of thousands and thousands of people
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: no there you're right there's certain people and then there's
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: certain people that Hey, they can afford it and you
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: can hate them for it. It's fine. If you want
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: to spend your life hating them for it. But don't
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: reveal this to then jeopardize everybody that works at this airport.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: And their safety.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: It's not just her. It's like the guy going like
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: this now is going to, you know, someone's going to
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: follow it and be waiting there. Or some young girl
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: could be run over by the plane because she's such
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: an incensed fan. You know, like. Yeah, like have a brain.
• 35:15
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• 35:16
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  Speaker 3: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: filed against me.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: what would you do if it was given back?
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: home dad. What happens next?
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: When I came in, he started crying.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: happens next.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: every day was. You're worth the work.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the show. It is on FX, Hulu,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: every Thursday. And it is called The Swans. A feud.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Capote versus The Swans. Ryan Murphy is the producer.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: It's about.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: William. It's Truman. No, Truman Capote is a writer. He
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: wrote Breakfast at Tiffany's. He wrote In Cold Blood. This
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: takes place between like 1958 and 1984 about this writer's life.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: He was gay. And at the time, I guess he
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: couldn't be out, but basically he was out as a
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: gay man. And he makes friends with the, he seeks
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: out the wealthiest socialites that women just admire, great fashion, great,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: and befriends them and then horribly betrays them by making
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: up lies about couple of them, but then also sharing
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: their secrets in, um, an article that he puts out
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: without warning or anything. He changed their names a little,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: but it was very obvious because there's only so many
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: women married to a studio head or whatever. And, um,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: and so there's only tonight will be the second episode.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: And so we get to watch it once a week,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: which I did.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: I'll be the third.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: Then I missed two episodes.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so excited because I only watched the first one. And, um, Anyway,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: what do you guys think of it? I love it.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: It's so good.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I love anything from that era. And I just saw
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: a commercial for another show around the same era.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Is it called Soldiers Come Home?
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: No, it's called something like about Palm Beach. And Kristen
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Wiig is the star. And it's like Kristen Wiig goes
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: there from when I saw the trailer. It's a series.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: And she goes there during that same era, which I love,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: like late 60s, whatever, to try to make it as
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: a society woman in that part of the country.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: She probably looks so great as a 60s person.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I might be getting it wrong, but I just saw
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: it and I literally wrote in the comments, more shows
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: in this era. I freaking love it. That's exciting.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: The women in this really look the part.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: They look their age, everything about it. The smoking, everything.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Some of them even look older than they were at
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: the time, which is, I love the casting.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Naomi Watts. Demi Moore, who is 60 years old. I
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: know there was a time where she showed up at
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: a fashion show and people were scared of her plastic surgery. However,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: it either settled down or she fixed it. Because she
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: looks absolutely stunning and she looked so gorgeous on the
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: red carpet at this premiere. She had a black long
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: dress with a swan, a black and white swan coming
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: up around the bodice. She's absolutely stunning. She looks great.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: She's probably playing a woman who's like mid to late 40s,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: which she totally looks. Diane Lane. That's the character I
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: relate to most. I see myself as the Diane Lane.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: She's fantastic.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Who do you see yourself as?
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Huh. I mean, that's a good question. Probably to me more.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: But it.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: So the tea, though, is Calista Flockhart, which you haven't
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: seen because you haven't seen the second episode. So Calista
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Flockhart plays Lee Radziwill.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes. Carol's mother-in-law. And Jackie's sister, Jackie Kennedy Onassis' sister.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: So Julie and I are, like, deep diving and living
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: our best life. Like, the level that Calista Flockhart looks
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: like this woman, it is... She's the one I thought
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: was maybe Cass.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: She looks beautiful too.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And she looks so much like her.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Kalista should just bring back this. Like, I almost feel
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: like with Miley doing that 80s hairdo, I was like,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: is that 80s big look coming back with the mob aesthetic? Like,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: did she... And I don't know how the mob aesthetic
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: started on TikTok, but I guess... Somehow they're playing so
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: much Sopranos that just like how kids discovered Friends like five,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: 10 years ago, they're discovering Sopranos. And so they're like, ooh,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I like that. I like that with the fur coat
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: and all the jewels and that bigger hair. And so
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: they're wearing that. And so I wonder if she saw
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: that and chose to wear that hairdo.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Probably.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: And I'm, but I'm all for the, I always, since
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I was a little girl, said this is my favorite
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: aesthetic is this late, the mid-60s look.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: There's one scene where they all come, I think it
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: was during Thanksgiving. The, is that the second episode or
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: the first episode?
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: It's the second and they all come walking down and
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: it's iconic.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: There's a, wait till you get to the second episode
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: because there's a, casino split screen almost the they do
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: a thing about thanksgiving in california and in new york
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: yes and it's.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: And it's all mexican in california like tamales and there's
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: like there's like mexican tapestries on the wall but even
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: though like like phyllis diller's there and it is very
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: glamorous but it's very california yeah and truman capote's there
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: and he's like wants to kill himself but then they're
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: in new york and it's not just them and the
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: it's the styling of them and then this this dinner
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: table because the food like you said the level of
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: the production value the amount of money that they put
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: into this even just to pay for these actors to
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: pay for Gus Van Sant who's the director I was
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: just like this is how it's supposed to be this
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: is how television now is meant to be I'm so
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: happy Ryan Murphy was able to use his star power
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: to get it done get it done on this level
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: it could be done on no other level it serves
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: in every way whether it's the restaurants in New York
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: the locations in New York every church, every single like detail.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Yes. What I love about that is like the prop master. Beautiful.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Because I just, when I would watch Mad Men, I
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: remember there was like a scene where they got drunk
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: on a Sunday and they had their kids making them
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Bloody Marys and Jon Hammond, his wife, and we had
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: those exact glasses. They're these tall glasses with gold leaves.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: And I was at the Parker Hotel in Palm Springs
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: recently and I was with my sister and I go,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: you know what? I just realized why I love this
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: aesthetic so much. This aesthetic that's like before 1975 is
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, because it was like the happiest time of
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: my childhood because it was before my mom started to work.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: And it's, It was our house looked like that. They
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: they had all they had the orange and brown couch
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: and all of this. And then it was after that
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: that they went 80s and then they were like this
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: real estate couple. And my life was fine. But that
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: part of it, it's like why I think I'm so
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: attracted to deviled eggs and little wieners. and martinis and
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: colorful stuff and that look and that Palm Springs look
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: and all of that. And so I do just love
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: that simpler. I just think it's the greatest air. I
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: love the cars, the convertibles, the smoking. It's not good
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: for us, but I just like watching it and being like, yeah.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: Your hands give detail. Your hands remind me of their
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: hands in the movie, in the show.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, the snail look is what it is?
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: You're giving like a.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Socialite hands. Socialite hands. Yes. Which I do.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: I am upset that we didn't overgo to the Parker
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: with you and Shan, though.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: We can do that another day.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, because we love the Parker.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: It is just the most charming, you guys. It is
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: the best. But I will say that what has not changed,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: which is timeless, is women... befriending a horrible gay man
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: who pretends to be their friend and confidant and believing
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: that you actually are loved and cherished by this man
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: when in fact he's just a horrible man but you're
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: you're disguised by the fact that he's gay and you
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: think that's safe when in fact a horrible person is
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: a horrible person and he really betrays them.
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: And, um, in the first episode, Naomi Watts, who plays,
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: I can't remember her name.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Babe. Babe. Paley.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: Paley.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: So the richest, he thinks is the most, to him
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: is the most beautiful, the best one of all the swans.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: And she, husband cheats on.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Her or whatever.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: Perfectly cast.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: Perfectly cast.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: And she's laying with him, uh, after he, she bears
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: her soul to him. And she says, you know what, Truman, um,
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: cause he said.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: To her, you're, He didn't hurt you. He just hurt
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: your ego.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: And she's like, you know what?
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: My husband couldn't hurt me. The only person in this
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: entire world that could hurt me is you. And that
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: is the basis for the entire show.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: And it is brilliant. It is so brilliant.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: It is brilliant. And he goes to hurt all of them,
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: but then he's portrayed as a victim too, as they
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: love to do.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: And then I read this article in Time where they
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: kind of go through who the real women were and
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: what's portrayed in the show and what's not. And again,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: what's playing out in our real lives too, similar to this,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: is that Some women, like the Diane Lane character, is like,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: we're going to fucking take him down. And other women
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: continue to be friends with him. Yes. And because they
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: weren't personally targeted in the article. So they are able
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: to overlook the crimes themselves. And still want that fun,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: fabulous friend.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: I did watch a documentary because I needed to know
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: the women more mainly because they're socialites. Of course, we
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: know celebrities and actresses from like the 60s and 70s.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: We don't really know socialites. That's a New York scene.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: The invention of Vanity Fair and Vogue and like the
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: literati and the glitterati. So I watched the documentary and
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: Chloe Sevigny is the main character in this iteration who
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: stays friends with him. Um, and in the show, she's like,
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: or I don't know if it's documentary or the show.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: She's like, of course I didn't tell him anything about
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: my life. Why would I? And it's like, okay, so
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: now you're blaming people who thought that he was a
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: real friend, regardless if they knew he was going to
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: write this tell all book. They never thought. It was
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: going to be about them.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: And he brings this guy with him and the guy
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: gets up from the table. And again, the girls care
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: about him and his relationship. They're very accepting of his sexuality,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: even though society wasn't at the time. They're supportive of
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: his friendship. They're supportive of his love life. And this
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: is how he repaid them.
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: The layers and levels that they're going in, the writing
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: is so good. It's the best thing Ryan Murphy's ever done,
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: in my opinion. I think the layers of showing the
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: imperfections of the women is right on and that it's
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: not just Truman Capote. It's them too.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: We're all human.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: We all make mistakes. We all fuck up, whatever, whatever, whatever.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: So just even the infighting of the women, I wouldn't
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: tell them that. Oh, you did? And just the one
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: stank friends and Even Demi Moore coming over to the table, like,
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: how can you sit here with him when he ruined
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: my life and you're supposed to be my friend? And
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: it's like, we've all felt that, too.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I guess the women, if they— I don't believe any are
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: alive today, but if any of them were, they'd be, like,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: 90 or something.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: So I just— Well, Julie said that— I implore— One
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: of them is— Lee Radziwill just died in 2019.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But I implore anybody that has— a grandma or
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: a mother or a relative that might have lived a
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: similar life and has, you know, is able to have their,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: still have their wits about them, which I, you know,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: fortunately some are not, but please watch this with them.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Please get the scoop, ask them questions because, you know,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: in watching this, I remember my dad, you know, he
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: was in advertising just like Mad Men. He was, worked
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: for Joel Dane Bernbach. He came out here to work
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: for that company, which is where John Hamm's character ends.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: He comes to LA. And gets the account for Pepsi.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: So anyway, or Coca-Cola, I think it was. Anyway, towards
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: the end of my dad's life is when he started
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: to give the juicy scoop. And I'm watching this show
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: and I go, dad, I mean, did people really cheat
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: like this? Because, you know, my parents have been married
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: forever and they're Catholic. And my dad goes, oh, yeah,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: mostly the junior executives screwing the boss's wife. They all
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: were screwing the boss's wives. And I'm like, what? And
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: he goes, yeah. And I go, what was your attitude?
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: And he goes, well, I wasn't the boss. So I
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: was like, go for it. That guy's a dick. And
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what dad?
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: And then my mom's like, well, and then there was
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: that time. And I go, what? And she goes on
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: to tell the story that, you know, my dad would
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: call her like last minute. Oh, can you whip up,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: you know, a roast or whatever? I'm bringing the bosses
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: and the clients and whatever. So he shows up and
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: my mom slaps on her lashes and throws us in
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: a room, or maybe I wasn't even born yet, and
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: makes some fabulous meal and da-da-da.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: With like pineapple circles on it and shit.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, like a pineapple circle ham and like,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I don't even know, ambrosia salad with a can, a
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: lot of cans.
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: And this guy was there and the next day the
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: guy shows up at the door. And my dad like
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: worked in the city, so like, which he's like, oh,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Bob's at the office. What are you doing here? And
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: he's like, I just thought it would be nice if
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: we got to know each other better now. And so
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: she was like, oh, my God, like this guy wants
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: to like have an affair with me. And, you know,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: and somehow my mom, like she goes, I gave him
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: a lemonade. You know, I was going to be rude.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: And then she like said no. And she never told
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: my dad until that moment. And I go, why didn't
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: you tell dad?
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: She goes.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, please. You know your father's temper. He's a Marine.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: He would have gone in there. Oh, you can't beat
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: him up and ruined his career in advertising. So she
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: never told.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: But, you know, that night your mom was like, still
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: got it. Still got it. She said, girl, you look
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: good still.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, my mom, like, my mom, well, the other thing
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: is my mom's mom owned a wig shop in Wisconsin.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: So she was like that girl that could wear wigs.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: So look, she had five kids, but she could always
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: slap on a wig.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: And then that's glamour.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: And some lashes. And she had like a perfect nose
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: and a perfect face. And so some bell-bottom jeans. And
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: she was chic as shit. And I don't even think
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: people knew they were wigs.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: No.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Back then, I remember I was like, Dolly Parton, you know,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: that's a wig. And I'm like, what? Like I didn't,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think people like really thought about it. No. Yeah.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: They didn't know.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: No.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. Speaking of which, not speaking, which has nothing
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: to do with this transition. Felicity Huffman is now opening
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: up about the Varsity Blues scandal. This is where she
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: paid money to the guy's singer to get her kid.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: In her particular case, it was that when they took the,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: when the daughter took the SAT or whatever, she had
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: a guy, I think correcting the answers or something afterwards.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: She took a private test. And then they corrected the answers.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I know a lot about it. I
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: don't know what. But anyway, she spent 11 days in jail,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: paid a fine, had to admit to it. And, you know,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: says she really regrets it. And I don't know, it
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: was 11 days. I'm still fascinated by this whole thing because,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: you know, my son, Brandon, he got into the University
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: of Oregon. We went and looked at the school. We
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: looked at Oregon State and University of Oregon. Both are
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: really beautiful and nice. We were blessed with incredible weather,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: so they were tricking us because apparently it's not like this.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: People said it's a trick, but whatever.
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: He really liked it.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I like the weather word now. And he goes, Mom,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: so you wouldn't have been able to get into USC today?
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: And I said, absolutely not. And I go, what I
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: think happened is I think that scandal was going on
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: for the last 20 years. And those people were taking
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: the spots. And therefore, they had to keep going up
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: and up for the GPA of the freshmen to come in.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: And it's not evening out yet because they still want
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: to keep that score of like, oh, our average freshman
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: is a 4.5 or whatever of these schools. And then
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: San Diego State, when we were going, was like you
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: needed like a 2.5. Such an easy school to get into.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: And it was the number one party school that Playboy
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: that year had. So people that went to party school
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: want to go there. But if you didn't want to party,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: you wanted to, you know, not go to, you didn't
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: want to tell everybody, oh, I'm going to San Diego State.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: And people, oh, your kid's a dum-dum. He's going to
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: the party school. Well, then somewhere along the line, people
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: across the country were like, wait a minute. why don't
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I go to the nicest, most beautiful city on earth?
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: There's a school there called San Diego State.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: That's where I was born.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Mom, maybe I'll just apply there. And then everyone started
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: to apply there. And then now it's like one of
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: the hardest schools to get into. And because of Felicity
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Huffman and that, very few California kids can go to
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: a California school anymore.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: But even Drake School, which is known as a huge
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: party school, but like, so very hard to get into,
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: very competitive, but because it's known as a party school,
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: California or whatever, people will be like, again, same exact thing,
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: but that's a hard competitive, both AU and ASU are,
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: or U of A and ASU are so competitive like
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: popular hard schools, D1 schools.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: No, they're great. All the schools are great. It all
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: works out. I'm not boohooing anything in my life. My
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: kid is going to be fine.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: No, but I'm saying the example of party schools is
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: because I remember in this college scandal, one of them,
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: not them, it was, what's her name? Aunt Becky.
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: Lori Loughlin.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was them. It was her husband that was like,
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: I don't want my daughter. Going to this party school.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: No, U of A. Oh, because of U of A?
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: She wanted to go to U of A. The thing is,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: is what I truly think, is it was not about
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: the kid. It was about the parents wanting to tell
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: everybody that their kid got into USC. Also, them wanting
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: to go to the USC games, not wanting to go
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: to Arizona to see a game, you know, in September.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Too bad for them.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: Because that shit's so fun.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: It is. It is also fun. But I think it
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: was like... And they... You know, just like someone said, hey,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I've got a good pool contractor. People were like, hey,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: if you want your kid to go.
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: Felicity Huffman said in an interview.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: They all did it. She said in an.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: Interview recently, well, she's exploiting this woman who does this
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: charity sitting with her. Women like got out of prison.
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: And Felicity Huffman's like, I just didn't think my daughter
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: would have any future. I didn't think she would have
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: any future. I didn't think my daughter, who I'm parents, me,
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: Felicity Huffman, and William H. Macy, to one of the most.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Well-known... And one of the few couples who have stayed married.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: So you have that.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: You already have the benefit of having not a divorced home.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: So you already are privileged.
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: You're going to get in anywhere you want because of
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: both of your parents. So fine. So she doesn't have
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: a future. And then they do that. She does her thing, whatever.
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: This year, I believe, if it's not this year, it
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: was last year, that daughter... on her own, got into
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: Carnegie Mellon Acting School. Carnegie Mellon is one of the
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: hardest schools, even when I was applying to colleges, one
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: of the hardest schools to get into for acting. But
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: she got in without anybody's help. I think we know why.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: With Brandon, and I said this with Dre too, I
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: was like, look, if you're not happy at the school
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: you choose, you've got to stay the year, but you
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: have all the advantages in the world, TAs, money for
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: a tutor if you need it, get the best possible
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: grades you can and transfer. But I hope you don't.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: I hope you choose a school that you love for
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: four years. And I'm not worried about what school they
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: go to because they are privileged. They have Heather fucking
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: McDonald as a mother. They're going to be just fine.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: And that's really what I think. I'm like, I just
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: want you to go and like grow and make friends
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: and don't. And I said, and in choosing your major, Brandon,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I go, anything in 2024 can be made profitable. If
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: you love He doesn't, but if you loved art, back
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: in our day, oh, what are you doing being an
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: art major? The only job you possibly could have is
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: working at a gallery or being an art teacher. That's
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: not true. If you love art, you could make that
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: a business. You could put it on clothing.
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: You could do TikToks.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Where you explain where a piece of art comes and
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: get a million views because nobody really knows the story
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: behind Mona Lisa. Whatever. I'm like, so whatever class you...
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Take that class... or take that major and think, how
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: can I make this my own business? Because I believe
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: everything you can do that. And so that is my
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: advice to all the kids in choosing where you're going
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: to go to school or not. If you choose not
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: to go to school, that's a whole nother thing too.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: But like, yeah, this, I think this was so great
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: that this whole thing cracked open this world and made
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: people realize this was going on. Because when I acted
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: so shocked, because I was shocked, Mackenzie wasn't shocked. People
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: were like, no, mom, I think this has been going on.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, why, why would you think like, cause I,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: that wasn't what it was like when I went to school.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I just thought, you know, it just got harder and harder.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: What I do want to say is what I love.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: One great thing that came out of COVID.
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Besides doing morning radio, when you go to do standup
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: in cities, we don't have to do that anymore is the, no,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: you don't not. If depending on what schools you're applying
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: to and where you are in the scheme of things
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: like your GPA, they don't require the SATs or the ACTs.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: And I really love that. Now, if you're trying out
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: for Harvard or whatever you do, okay, because you want
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: every ability to show I'm really smart. But what I
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: love about that is even when I took the SAT,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: I said, this is socioeconomically unfair. I'm like, I know
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: this vocabulary word because my mother uses it daily in
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: the home. But there's people that are immigrants or maybe
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: their parent doesn't have that vocabulary. They're not going to
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: know this word. Also, my mom and dad are putting
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: me in Princeton Review, which was $ 1, 300. And I went
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: to Harvard-Westlake or whatever and studied with those kids. And
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: there was, like, a trickery to it.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Like, if you don't know this, da-da-da-da.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like the LSAT or whatever.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was like, that's so dumb. It should
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: be based on the merit of, like, what did you
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: do for four years? Were you consistent?
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Did you follow through with the project? Did you get
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: your homework done? Did you, you know, so I think
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: all of this is good. Yeah. For society, the whole.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: Entire like secondary education, like university system is the completely
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: fucked and unfair at this point, just like everything, you know,
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: it is all nepotism and it is, you know, it's
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: like my valedictorian like peed his pants. Like it was like, okay, well.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: While he was up there?
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: No, but just in general. And it was like, you know,
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: and I just think, a lot of times too, even
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: the scholarship system is really, really unfair. It's like scholarships
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: should be actually given. I remember thinking, you know, scholarships
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: go to average students whose parents are in major debt.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: That's who those should go to because not the best
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: smartest students who of course they should get scholarships too,
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: but there are, I mean, people just middle-class and lower
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: income who don't get scholarships just because they're just average.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I wanted, I may start a scholarship. That's just for,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: a girl that's a B student.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: But that is kind of funny.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: And her parents are on credit card debt.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: And you know what?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: You would have done me.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: But they have a roof over their heads. Yeah. But
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: they only have one home, but they're not starving. They're fine.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: Not four homes. I came out of college with a $ 50, 000
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: like student loan debt.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: And it was like, you know, I mean, and I
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: got a 4.0 in college, but I was a, definitely
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: like an average high school. Yeah, I like barely graduated
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: high school.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes it clicks for people. Like, you know, and
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: then like they barely got into college and then they're
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: the ones going to medical school because all of a
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: sudden it just clicks. Like it just, or they all
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: of a sudden just start to care.
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  Speaker 4: Because no one's bossing you in college.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: You're bossing yourself.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: My mom kept saying to me, You're going to be
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: so happy. No one tells you what to do. You
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: pick your schedule. If you don't want to go to class,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: don't go. If you and then the second I had
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: the freedom to decide for myself, it was just it
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: was what it was just everything. I hated the way
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: school I felt like I was literally it was like
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: a penitentiary system.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, granted, granted, admitted something to me this weekend.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: And I go, so you never took the did you
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: ever take the SAT or ACT? Do we even know
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: how you scored? And he goes, well, mom, I have
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: to admit something to you. I go, what? So I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: signed him up for like a practice test or whatever
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: at the all-girls school. And I was on the road.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: And he goes, you didn't tell me before. You like
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: called me from like some gig. And you were like,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: wake up! You have the ACT class. So he had
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: to ride his bike all the way over to Louisville,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: which is not close. It's over like two hills. And
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: you get there and he goes, and then I made
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: the mistake of going to Blinky's Donuts. And there was
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: a deal for two, which is now I realize I
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have all that sugar before study. So he had
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: two donuts. He went.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: He was cracked out.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: And the lady was like, so you guys, it's just
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: practice tests. So just do this test for the next
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: three hours. And then he goes, so then I raised
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: my hand and I said, oh, I've been left alone
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: at my home and I left the door open. So
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I need to ride home and close it. Can I
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: just do this at home? And she said, okay. So
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: he just admitted that lie. So I go, oh, so
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: that's why they never called me and said what your
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: score was. Well, who cares? You got into school. It
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You're going to go somewhere.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: I love that you just checked in like, hey, whatever
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: happened with your SATs? Like the opposite of Felicity Huffman. No,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: I didn't actually hire someone to do it. I didn't
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: even remember if he did it or not. I didn't
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: even recall.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, just checking in.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: What grade are you in again? Are you in 11th
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: or 12th?
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, OK.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: He's OK. We're going to. Oh, you already got into college.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: OK, cool. See you after my gig. I mean, hilarious. OK,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: so Jussie Smollett, also a liar. I don't even know
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: what this is about. It just popped up. He's still
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: saying I had some. I don't know. let's just never
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: forget how much this guy lied. Just why? And I'll
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: never forget. I was on Wendy Williams that day. And
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Melissa Rithers was guest hosting the panel. Like she was
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: the guest host of the day or whatever.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: Wasn't it around the holidays? Do you remember that?
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: Cause it was winter.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Cause I remember what we were doing.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: It was definitely winter. Cause that was the whole thing.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember hearing about this.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: And, Did you guys discuss it?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The story broke and we said how horrible it was.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: And they're reading it and they said, they were reading
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: or they're giving us the details, the producers. And they said,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: and then two masked white men with ski masks on
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: came and attacked him. And I remember saying, wait a minute,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: if they're wearing ski masks, how do we know they're white?
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: And they looked at me and they're like, do not
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: say that on the air. And I go, okay. And
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: so then we go out there and I just said,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: you know, if this is in fact true, I said,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: this is domestic terrorism. This is absolutely horrible, which it was.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: If it was true, of course, we know now it
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: wasn't that he hired the guys and all this other
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: stuff for attention and to try to get more money
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: on his show, get more money on a show, be known,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: be a victim. And it, you know, Yeah. His name
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: on- Fake kidnappings might be one of my favorite topics ever.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: No, he didn't get fake kidnapped, right?
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: No. It was fake kidnapping. Well, not fake kidnapping, but
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: fake attack. Fake attack. Yeah, fake attack. And then when
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: the police came, he still had the noose on his neck.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: He didn't take it off.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: Just a classic thick rope noose. It's so- Where one
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: has to really Google where to find that.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: I know gay men go out at 2 a.m. to
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: get a Subway sandwich. Isn't that a- A natural snack.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: Crossed railroad tracks in a blizzard.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: In a point below zero weather, whatever it was. Yeah.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: So let's never forget that he's a liar and let's
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: never hire him again.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: What did he do?
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: I never want to see him hired again. Sorry.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: He tells the Illinois Supreme Court he had a no
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: prosecution deal. So we're still trying this.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: He's still just, yeah, he's not going to, I don't think.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: He's not going to prison.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: I thought it was completely done.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: It is done.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: I just had to see this before you came. So
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk about, I always like to
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: bring up people that are, um, liars and it's been
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: proven to be a lie. And I don't want people
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: to ever forget the people that lie publicly about things.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: It's too bad.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 5: He's good looking.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: He could sing.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: He was on Empire. He was like a beloved character.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: He's a black, openly gay man. We needed him. And
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: this is what he did.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: It's so disappointing. It was just the ultimate thirst for
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: attention and a shortcut.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: To We did want Empire to give him her raise.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: I'll give him that.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: But also at the stake of already the world, the
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: society was so divided and you chose a crime that
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: would only divide us more and it was not true.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: So you're a dick.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: It's so bummer.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: This OnlyFans mom, she has a big car detail thing
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: on her car, which I've seen people do.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: Like, what do you mean?
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm on OnlyFans? Like, here's my OnlyFans. I don't
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: know if it's a little, where you click on it.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: What do you call it?
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: Like a QR code?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the QR code or just go to Sandy Jones
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: or whatever. And her kids go to Christian school and
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: they said, we don't want you being in the drop-off
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: line advertising your OnlyFans. And of course she said, what
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: do you mean? That's probably where I get my most people,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: you know? So I'm dad, you know, like, I mean,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: how fun to be like whacking off to somebody that
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: you can see. Like, you know, working the Halloween carnival.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: She's not stupid. And her husband has it on. And
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: so then she said, well, you better do something to
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: protect my kids because now they have to walk across
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  Speaker 1: a busy street because I can't be in the carpool
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: line with my OnlyFans.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: So I can't, as Piper Fawn, I cannot go to
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: my Christian kids' school.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Yes. How dare.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: It's so Florida, right, that she has her kids in
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: Christian school, but her and her husband are advertising her
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: porny OnlyFans. Yes.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: It's just great.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: But what about freedom? I mean, not for, well, yeah.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: I would think that people who are for freedom of
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: speech and all that stuff would be fine with it.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: Those things work.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: And literally in 2000, like a 12. Julie was driving
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: on the 405. She meets me. She's like, listen, I
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: just saw this insane bitch on the 405. And it
• 1:07:31
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• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: was like.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: And the car.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: And she's like, it was all over the car. It
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: was all over the car.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: It was like rainbows.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: And then this like cracked out five-year-old with bows.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: A sticker.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: You know, the whole car was wrapped.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 6: Okay, wrapped.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: And then it was like, look at me. And she's like,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: I think it was like, I think I saw a
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: YouTube logo. one goog and was like this, JoJo Siwa.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: And from that point on, and Julie saw this back
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: when like JoJo Siwa was a little, she was on
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  Speaker 4: Dance Moms.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: When she was straight.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: They wrapped when she was straight at five. They wrapped
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: that car. Actually, she's probably in the closet at five.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: They wrapped that car and they drove up wherever back
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: to their house in the valley. And yeah, how many people.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Did the Google?
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: And then we felt we fell into the into the
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: rabbit hole of Jojo Siwa because of that car when
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: she was little. So that point on.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Saying I'm not going to go to Piper Fawn because
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: I might. OK, I yeah, I I I see your point. Yeah,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, it does. It does absolutely help. My parents
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: had a personalized license plate, Bob N, the letter N, Pam.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: Bob and Pam.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: And then I realized it was not a good move
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: because they would park in front of some house for
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: two hours to give a listing presentation and other realtors
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: would see it. And then they know that that person
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: is thinking about selling and they sometimes try to swoop in.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: So then we had to bring an unmarked car to
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: the listing presentations.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: They'd be like, there's Bob and Pam doing the threesome
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: with the guy who came over with the ham with
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: the pineapples on it. Why are Bob and Pam in the,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: in this house.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: For two hours?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: And while they're like doing mortgage docs.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, um, The Wendy Williams doc is coming out.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: It's on Lifetime. And she is executive producing a thing
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: that's just to tell all of how horribly she's doing.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: It's kind of I don't really understand. But she says,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I have no money. And then her son is seen saying, like,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: she has all these handlers around her. And I think
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: that she's doing great. drugs she's not right i don't
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: understand that's what i don't get i don't i guess
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: she is desperate for money so she's like well if
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: the only show that's going to work is you guys
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: following me around as i suffer from these different things
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: she has is it a docu-series or a documentary it's
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: a documentary i mean i think it's just a couple
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: hours okay on lifetime and um You know, it's.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: Just, it's just heartbreaking. I want to know, we can't
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: diagnose her mental health, but you worked with her personally
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: many times. Yes. And you've seen the footage of her now.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: We know that she did go into like a facility
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: for like addiction, but is your, do you think that
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: now are we just dealing with, are we still dealing
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: with a.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Okay. So she has the Graves disease, which make her
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: eyes really big.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: So then, and then I don't know if that affects
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: why she has to have the, the circulation machine on
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: her legs. She was like, situation with that. And then,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: which is why she would always wear like tennis shoes
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: and dresses. And, but she was always really nice and
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: always sharp and with it when I was on. And
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: then I think it was a combination of a lot
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: of things. I think it was being humiliated by the
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: husband and she would have stuck with that husband forever
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: had he not had a baby. She was like, once
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: that came out, like I couldn't, pretend anymore with the
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: neighbor with the with the girl that lived down the
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: street or whatever well he put he put the girl
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: down the street okay and um and him being like
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: the executive producer of her show and all that stuff
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: and then I do think that she has struggled with
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: addiction on and off so I think it's all of
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: those things and it's just really sad I mean I
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know and now it's like the way the
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: thing is that now she's a liability so it's like
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: you know, you're not going to put your money, are
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: you going to put your money into, you know, Kelly
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Clarkson or Sherri Shepherd, who has like an exemplatory record
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: of showing up and, you know, or are you going
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: to try to risk it again with Wendy? So if
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: she ever is in a place where she can come back,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: it's going to have to be completely self done, whether
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: it's like YouTube finance, something like we do. I don't know,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: but nobody's going to give her a big TV show
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: ever again, obviously.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: In the preview, what I saw was really sad. It
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: was like going, basically her saying, I went from having
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: millions and millions of dollars to having nothing. And that
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: was like.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: I just don't know where all that went, so I
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: guess we'll have to watch the doc.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited for it.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: There was a weird thing where she was like, I
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: don't have access to my money, but it was like
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Bank of America or something or Wells Fargo. And I'm like, well,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: is someone trying to... just protect your money because you
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: have some weird person who's like, hey, give me 30.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: And then she tries to write a check for 30,000
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: and they're like, no. And then was she then going,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: oh my God, I don't have access to my money,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: but they were protecting her. You know what I mean?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: So I don't really know if someone was doing her
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: a favor or is really all her money gone. I'm confused.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because she also has her son, his big Kev
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: and little Kev. So she supports the son. Those facilities
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: she was in were expensive. And according to what we've
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: watched is we do watch like gossip vids on YouTube
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: about it. Cause we love Wendy Williams. We went and
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: sat in the audience at Wendy Williams while you're working
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: with her. We're just like lurks in the audience, like cool.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: And it was fun.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. She's great. She's great.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: It was a great time.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: You know, I said, you know, like I, I love
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: when I started this show, I was kind of like, Oh,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: I love that she can do hot topics by herself.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: And that's why sometimes I created the show that I
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: could do that by myself as a topper or alone
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: or whatever. I wanted to make sure I found a
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: way to do it. And, you know, I love that
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: she didn't care. I love that she didn't try to
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: be friends with people. And when she did with, like, NeNe,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: it didn't work out. You know, Nini felt like she
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: got jealous of her and she felt Nini wasn't a
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: good friend to her. And like, literally that was like
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: the only friend she made in the business, you know?
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: And she was so like, oh, I go home to
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: my husband and my son. And then when the husband
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: betrayed her and the son went off to college, I
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: think it was just like too much, you know? I
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: do think her money might be in some type of conservator.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: We can only hope it's in some type of account.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: Because she did have a lot of those like grifter
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: types that were glomming on.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: The last documentary, she talked about how much she loves
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: caviar on a Dorito. She calls it a ghetto supply
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: surprise in your mouth or something. That sounds delicious. And
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: so she loves caviar. And so, hey, girl, Meredith Marks,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: go send over your caviar.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: Well, maybe she should get the $ 400 caviar we sent
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: to Jeff that he never said thank you for when
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: we apologized. And then he said we never apologized.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: Maybe that.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's it.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: Maybe Jeff still has some left.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: Maybe. Maybe so. Anyway, she loves caviar, and we wish
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: her the well, and I will be watching it. This
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: scoop from Potomac, this has been dropped, and it cannot
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: be brought up again. This is Candace from Real Housewives
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: of Potomac.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: Oh, I can't believe this got dropped.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: Said to Ashley. It should be dropped. She said to Ashley,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: who was married to Michael Darby, who's 63 years old.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: They have two kids together. I don't know if they're
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: officially divorced or not. I think they are. I don't know.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: But she said something to the effect of your man
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: is is cheating on you with another man, something like
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: that on the show. So then he went and sued
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: her for defamation, saying it's not true and it's hurt
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: my life. Now, I don't from what I read, I
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: did not get the details of why the judge did.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: dismissed it with prejudice, meaning it cannot be brought up again.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: But either she must have shown some proof that it
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: was somewhat true or he couldn't prove that it actually
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: hurt his business, in my opinion. Probably.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's probably that because I can't imagine. It's
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 5: got to be really hard to prove that you did
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: or didn't sleep with it. I mean, it's just sort
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 5: of like.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: When people say, so sue for defamation, this person, you know,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: said you were... a thief and a felon, and why
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: don't you sue for defamation, Heather?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: You were slandered for weeks on end.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, why don't you sue for... And I said, first
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: of all, I don't like suing because it's hard, but also,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: you got to prove that you missed out on some
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: huge opportunity because someone believed that you were a felon.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: And.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: I didn't like my career is only getting better. So I, you.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: Know, that's the reason exactly. We were slandered for weeks.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: We didn't want to have to go through like, well,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: you know, we didn't get to do, you know, the
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: audition for the modern family reboot when really like we
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: leveled up more than we ever could have thought possible,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: which was only going to come out. Like it was
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: only helpful to us.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: But that's, It's crazy that someone can spill hot coffee
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: on themselves for McDonald's and be like, couldn't work two years,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: got a burn on my thigh and get, they're like
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: 11 million. But it's like, you know, I mean, I
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: liked this lawsuit because I think Candace really goes hard
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: and that's what was super, super entertaining with her. And
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: she really came for Michael Darby, who is, you know,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: a great like villain and terrible husband. And it was
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: fun and enjoyable. But, you know, Candace Dillard's husband is,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: you know, he's not our favorite.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: I can't stand him. I can't stand her husband.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: We've had this conversation. You don't like him that he's
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: a chef.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: But it's not because he's a chef. But anybody came
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: for him, though.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: She was literally acting as if, like, the network execs
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: at Bravo.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: You're accusing him of full rape. Like, he raped your
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: mother in the back of a Jerry Queen.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: I think when she said that to Ashley, and I
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: might be mistaken, she was saying it in a way of, like, girl,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: like almost like I'm on your side, he's a piece
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: of shit. I mean, she did end up divorcing him.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: She wasn't necessarily saying it in like, you're such a
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: loser because you're with him. I think she was saying
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: it like, open your eyes.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: I didn't think anybody told her that she.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: Was a loser. But maybe I'm wrong because they have
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: hated each other. So I don't know.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: Nobody said to her that she was a loser for
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: being with Chris. They just said, listen, he's done some
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: like questionable shit. He didn't read the room. It could
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: have been a mistake.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: And the level she acted like, you know, like I'm saying,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: like all of Bravo and NBCU came down to cause
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: this storyline. But yet she will drag Michael Darby. They
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: were still married at the time. Yeah. They were not
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: anywhere near divorce. And Michael Darby is shady. He was
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: grabbing production guys' asses.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: Like he had a lot of things that were happening,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: but they weren't happening to Candace. And she was happy
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: to make that her storyline many, many, many, many, many times.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: And then when her husband became a storyline, she didn't
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: like that. And nobody likes it. And so I just
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: was like, well, you're getting sued now.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think this is a thing to
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: be like, look, you're on a reality show. People talk shit.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: It's probably not worth it to sue each other. You know,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: be rational, too.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: Like nobody. She she escalated a situation that didn't need
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: to go anywhere.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: Somebody came to you and said, listen, I just feel weird.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 5: Like your husband here in the room. I just like
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: don't want to be alone with someone else's husband in
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: a hotel room. It looks bad.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: Go to your husband and tell him to don't do
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: it again. And I'm sure he'd be like, OK, sorry.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: And he'd go, sorry, listen, I didn't mean to make
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: you feel weird. I was just I just didn't realize.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: And that would be the end of it.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: That would be the end of it. But no, no, no.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: Candace needed to, you're coming after my husband, my husband.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 5: Over and over and then coming for people.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: I have to say, I haven't been watching it this season.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: Well, the bottom line is that- Are you watching?
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not really watching. Yeah, we're watching. You are watching.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: Is it good?
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: Is it good?
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: We love it. But right now, it's kind of- Candace
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: and Giselle will not speak to each other. And this
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: is why it's a disappointing because we do like Candace
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: and we do think she's really funny and a great
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: addition to the show. And it is a disappointment that
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: when the storyline shifted to her and her husband, she
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: couldn't sort of lean in and run with that. She
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: stopped it and it became so dark and so insulting
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: that now she's probably going to have to go. And
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: it's a bummer because we don't want her to leave
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: the show. I mean, we like her a lot on
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: the show, but they don't even speak.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you guys know about Candy not coming back
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: to Atlanta? Yes. So she announced it in an interview
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: at the Grammys. And... I went on TikTok and I
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: was like, wow, I love what she said. She just goes, yeah, actually,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not coming back. It was taking a minute to
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: get the contract. And I was like, just assuming I would.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: And then her friend goes, why are you doing it?
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: And she goes, I don't know why I'm doing it.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: I've just done it every year for 14 years. And
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: I have all these different projects coming and I'm just
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: not going to do it. Now there's been other talks saying, Heather,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: you're wrong. She wasn't asked to come back. I am
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: just going by what Candy said. I don't, it felt,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: it felt truthful and it felt like, girl out of
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: all the people that have been on this show for
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: all the years. You came a star. And you're leaving
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: as a bigger star. You're worldwide, bitch. Yeah. And, you know,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: your husband produced that movie and about that they had
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Drew in and they can do those type of movies.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: They can do so many different things together. And I
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: do kind of feel like why, why include your kids anymore? Like,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: why do it? She can always come back if she wants.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: But I agree. Like, this is the, this is what
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: you hope for every housewife. that they can decide not
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: to leave. But who knows? You know, like, I guess
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: we'll never really know the truth. But I believe Candy.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: I believe her, too. And I believe that regardless of
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: maybe they were not going to ask her back, perhaps.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 5: And I can also see, at least from our experience
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 5: with People's Couch, we didn't know for almost two years
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: that the show wasn't coming back because they never told
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: us it was canceled. They wanted to lead us on.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: We kept going and going. We would ask them. And
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: then finally, even when we found out, it was, but
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: don't tell anyone and don't talk about.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: It or whatever.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: So I could see that Bravo does have a way
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: of making, of.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: Stringing people along. Yeah, stringing them along, exactly.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: Because you're waiting and is this going to happen?
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: And I don't know.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: Well, we don't know.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: We're working on it. We're working on it. But they
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: knew all along that was never coming back. So perhaps
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: that could be. But Candy is exactly worldwide and don't
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: need to wait.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: Or they were going to offer her less money. And
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: now if she leaves for a year or two and
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: comes back to less money, it's just a lot different.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think she was over $ 2 million
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: a year. Very highly. You know, just like a big
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: CEO that they want to get rid of because they're
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: making so much money. The same thing goes on with Housewives.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: But she can come back later for a much, the
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: way Kenya did, for a much lower rate. And it
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: won't be as.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: Sort of a slap in the face to her. I
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: felt like they might've said, listen, like we're going to,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: we're going to revamp and low ball everybody.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: So take a year.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: Off, come back, you know, Portia's probably not going too
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: low because they really need her.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: You know, God, we miss Portia so much.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: So she took however many, two years, I'm not sure,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: maybe more, And so I think if Candy's like, okay,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to take less money. I'll leave for
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: two years. You'll see that you miss me and I'll
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: come back. Maybe it'll be less money, but it won't
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: be as way less.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: I'm going to light a candle. Jill Zarin. What do
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: you mean? Jill Zarin comes back to Atlanta?
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: No, the Jill Zarin manifestation candle.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'll take a manifestation from Jill and I will
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: pray for Kim Zolciak. NeNe, the Carlos King says, never NeNe.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: But Kim Zolciak and Nene, and then take a year off,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: they stay on it, and then Candy comes back next year.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like NeNe's... Then that would be
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: the show to watch.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: NeNe is just a given, like, if they could ever
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: get her back or could just deal with the way
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: of getting her back. But Kim is really the dark
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: horse there.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: Like, just get Kim back and, quite frankly, get Sharae...
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: Let's get the original cast going. Yes, yes. Or season two,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: because that was candy. Yeah. And let's just, you know,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: try and force Kim to go on the vacations again
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: now that she doesn't have Croy.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: Like, because she never wanted to ever travel. Yep. Regardless
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: of Croy, she never wanted to travel. She's so... And
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: then just, you know, it could be... Kim is really
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: the dark horse factor.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Like, that's such.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: It'd be.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: Amazing going through the divorce and the wigs. Really quick, this...
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: Do you remember when Tinsley Mortimer had that mugshot that
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: everyone talked about and her Botox was out of control?
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Do you know who Tinsley Mortimer is? Yeah. She came
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: on New York Housewives after she had a scandal. In
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: which she had a mugshot because she was dating this
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: guy and he said that she trespassed, okay, on his property.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: And that was all we remember is that she was
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: a psycho ex-girlfriend that trespassed on this guy who is
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: the sugar heir. He's super rich.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Well, he just got arrested for beating up his girlfriend
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: who called the police because he was so mad, according
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: to her, that they were seated next to a homosexual
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: couple at a fancy restaurant in like Palm Beach.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: Why doesn't this ever happen to me? Why can't this
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: ever happen to me? I want to be there. I
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: want to be there when that's happening.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: We're the homosexual couple.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: We're the homosexual couple.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: You're saying why aren't people more prejudiced towards you in
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: public so that you can beat.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 5: The living shit out of him? Why can't it happen?
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: Why are people so nice and accepting?
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: Why are people so nice, Heather? Why are people so
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: accepting of your gayness? Yeah. Why? Why is it? I
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: don't understand.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: I don't understand like this.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: So I'm reading the article and I'm I did not
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: realize that she had a history, Tinsley, of domestic violence
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: with him. The cops were called and all this stuff.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: There were all these other incidences leading up to her
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: being arrested for, quote unquote, being on his property.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: I did think that was a thing on the show.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, we watched this thinking that she... whatever,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: had a psychosis. No, she was in a complete domestic violence,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: horrible relationship with this asshole who is now proven to
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: be an asshole, a domestic violence abuser.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Thank God. And you know, you know, Tinsley Mortimer left
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: the show to marry the coupon king. He was a
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: cheating weirdo or allegedly wasn't a great boyfriend. They broke up.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: She is now happily married to a beautiful man who
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: is a widower, which is sad, but he found a
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: second love of his life, Tinsley, and now she is
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: a mother to those three kids.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: But do they have money?
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: Yes. Oh, good.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: A lot of money.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: That's what's important.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: And he's, and he's, the kids are young. They're like
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: the same age as a couple. Oh, that's nice. And, um,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: You know, remember how mean Dorinda was? Why don't you
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: get a turkey baster?
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to get pregnant. Talking about having the last laugh.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: We didn't watch the Tinsley.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: Tinsley Mortimer.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: Should we watch those Tinsley seasons?
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: No, there wasn't. I mean, listen, there were some fun
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: moments where she and her mom were crying over photos
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: of her eggs. Well, she doesn't need those eggs anymore.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: She has three live, great children that were like lovely
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: and The photos that were from the wedding, the kids'
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: faces were blocked out, which I like. I think his was.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: We don't know. She's living a private life.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: That's nice.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: So she's like, Heather, thanks for reminding everyone that I
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: was in an abusive relationship. But I just had to
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: say that she made it and this guy was awful.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: And thank God she got away from him. And Sugar Air,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: what is his name? Do they say his name here?
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: Mainly, I'm like, what's the restaurant?
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Flagler.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: Flagler. Time to hit up Flagler Steakhouse.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: It's a good thing there was an L in there.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: It wasn't Fagler. It's Flagler Steakhouse.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: Maybe he thought he was going.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: Maybe he was like, you took me to a steakhouse
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: called Fagler? You knew that would piss me off.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: And she's like, no, it's called Flagler.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: No wonder it was filled with gay people.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: He looks like Greg Brady. Really quickly, we've gone long,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: but I do want to say this guy, Shane Gillis,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: is hosting SNL. I guess he is blown up on
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: Netflix and YouTube and everything. He was hired to be
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: an SNL writer five years ago. And before he could start,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: someone pulled up a YouTube of his podcast in which
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: he did a Chinese accent. So he licked his wounds.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: He got fired. He went off.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: With a podcast that had very little views, notoriety. He
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: was like living with roommates.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: SNL got so much shit. There was no way they
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: could keep him on. So he was like, well, what
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: am I going to do? I could crawl into... the ground.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: I could go back to my old hometown. They never
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: do Hallmark movies about that, where it's like, what are
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: you doing working at the Christmas tree lot? Well, I
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: was going to be in New York City, the big city,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: as an SNL writer. But they saw me do a
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: bit where I did a Chinese accent. So it's back
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: working on my parents' farm. What brings you here? And
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: she's like, oh, I was an influencer who was making
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: millions of dollars. That was just a town where they
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: all go back, all of them.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 5: Did you see Mary Claire?
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: She's working over at the gas station.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: She's like, I was going to go to USC, but
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: my parents lied and said I was a rower.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: I was an influencer in California, and I– I sold mascara,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: but I actually had false eyelashes on and they all
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: came for me and they took down my TikTok and
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: I never could work again. So now I'm working at
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: the flower shop. What are you doing, Eric?
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: My grandfather was a Nazi. Oh, I don't think you're
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 5: in the right town.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: You got to.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: Wait, you really should be canceled.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: That actually counts.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 5: You actually need to go to Florida.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: We're just in the temporary cancellation of a few years.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: We were mistakenly canceled and we're going to get real
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: successful like next year.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: He continued to use his talents and continue to be
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: funny and do his thing and not give up. And
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: he did some funny videos and people were like, wow,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: this guy is funny. And then someone in the comments
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: would say, don't you know that he did a Chinese accent?
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: And then the person was like, I don't really care.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: I think this guy's funny. I'm going to send him
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: to my friend. And so on and so on and
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: so on. And he has done so well that now
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: he's actually hosting SNL.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: Going to host SNL.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: Which I always love to say. You know, Melissa McCarthy
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: and Steve Carell at one time were the highest paid
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: actors in the business, not just comedy actors, but the
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: highest paid. And both Melissa McCarthy and Steve Carell auditioned
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: for SNL multiple times and were turned down. But SNL
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: loved to have them back to come host. And I
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: was like, but they weren't good enough to be on
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: your show, right, Lauren Michaels? Right.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, they decide, you know, it's those factors involved,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: you know. And I was supposed to audition for SNL.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: And I did a pilot for MTV called Lyricist Lounge.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: And I took all those characters and we sent them
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: and I had an audition. And Peter was going to
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: go with me and I had my suitcase packed. And
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: the night or the day before I was supposed to go,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: my agent called and he's like, I have good news
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: and bad news. The good news is the MTV pilot
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: got picked up. And the bad news is you can't
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: audition for SNL because you're in first position and they're
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: not going to let you. And he begged, too. He
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: was like, please, it's SNL. And the MTV people are like.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: Screw you.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: Like, she's like the star of our show. And so, yeah.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: And then after that, I was like married and Mackenzie
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: was little and I never sent another tape or tried
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: to audition again. So people always wonder why were you
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: never on SNL? Well, that's why.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: People ask me, too, why weren't you ever on SNL?
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: And I say because I never had an opportunity ever
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 5: one time. Even though I was on a sketch show.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: Did you ever send in a tape or try to
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: get an audition?
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: I did not try. I was on Big Gay Sketch Show.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 5: I thought that was, I was happy with that. And then,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 5: of course, everyone on that show, the only, your reason
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 5: for living was to get on SNL.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: And multiple people from the cast went to audition for SNL.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 5: And I certainly had thought about it and I tried,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 5: but I don't know.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: I just, I just, yeah.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 5: My heart wasn't into it after a while. It just like,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 5: I lost.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: Well, Kate McKinnon was on that show with Julie Biggie,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: Biggie Sketch Show.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: I was always scared of New York, like to live
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: in New York. I always, when I would watch, Shannon
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: and I, one summer, my dad let us have a
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: TV in our bedroom. And every night we'd watch SNL,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: like reruns of it at like 11 o'clock at night
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: during the summer. And you know when they have that
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: opening where they're like at bars and they're smoking and
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: they're on the subway at night? that scared the shit
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: out of me. I was like, I would, I'm like,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I'll know how to do that.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll know how to go on
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: the subway.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: And so, but she's from Boston.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: But the main thing is I would have been fine,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: you know, at 30 doing that, you know, but, Yeah,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, what's the point of auditioning? How
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: would I have my family? Because we had shared custody
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: of Mackenzie. So I was like, there's no way that
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: we can. How would we ever continue the relationship with her?
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: There's no way. And so I just didn't even think
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: about it. Well, I think things always work out the
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: way they're supposed to work.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: I like was going to audition for SNL, too. And
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 4: the thing was, was that I just like wasn't funny
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: or talented. So I didn't ever do it. Right. You
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: know what I mean?
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: That's a hardship. It is.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 5: It's hard.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 4: Sometimes when you're not good enough for SNL, that hurts too,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: you guys.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Jennifer Coolidge has tried out. I mean,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of people tried out and it just wasn't
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: the year. Or, you know, it depends on who you
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: were going up that year.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: I have to say this too.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: If there was like three other girls that were white
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: and looked like you and did similar stuff, they're going
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: to pick maybe someone that then they were like, oh,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: she can also do this person. Like they're looking to
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: fill the spots, you know?
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 5: I definitely got discouraged too because once Kate McKinnon got
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: on and it was a big deal that she was
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 5: a lesbian, I knew– I knew I was going to
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: be too, or I already, I sabotaged my own self too.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 5: Like I'm going to be too gay. I look too gay.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 5: They're never going to have me. And I'm my, and
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 5: doing big gay sketch show, I learned what it was
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 5: like to be on a sketch show. And it was
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 5: very disconcerting. And I knew I also just didn't want,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 5: I didn't think that I would be able to fit
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 5: into it too. So I just like lost, I just
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 5: didn't try. I think I could have tried. I had
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 5: an audition, but, I lost my heart. Just, it just
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 5: like between my own sabotaging and then big gay sketch show,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 5: I just was like, I'm not going to go in
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 5: there and be told I'm too big of a dyke.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 5: I just can't take it. I can't do that again.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: I think if I had never met Peter, I would
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: have been honest. Yeah.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I would have been on SNL and
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: I probably would have, um, maybe never got married or
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: had kids. I think I would have lived this New
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: York life.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: You'd just be a lot more successful without Peter, is
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: the bottom line.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you just would have gone further. I would have
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: lived a completely different life.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 5: That's your movie. Or that's the thing. Let's remember. Let's remember.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: We're going to write it down. The dream sequence of,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 5: what would have happened if I didn't marry Peter?
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: And then it's like.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 5: Heather's a Truma Capote-like. Anyway, it's funny.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 4: Oh, can you believe it? Peter comes by. He's like,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: does anybody want me?
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 5: He's doing catering.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, pigs in a blanket.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 5: Hi, hello, Ms.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: McDonald.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 5: Could I offer you?
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 5: Bring the caviar on the Dorito, please.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: Please. Girls, tell the world how they can get more
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: Brandy and Julie in their lives because people ask all
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: Go to julieandbrandy.com, Brandy with a Y. We have a
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: Regular podcast, dumb gay podcast every Tuesday. And then we
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: have a Patreon podcast. You can find it. Just Google
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 4: Julian Brandy Patreon. We don't do any politics on our Patreon. No.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 5: We're going to start Cameo soon because of you.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you guys.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: We are.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: You're missing out.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: We're revitalizing a lot. There's a lot of exciting things coming.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: In the Brandy Julie world.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 4: Heather, your birthday.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: One of them is exciting is June 14th, but that's
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: so minutes away. But you guys are joining me at
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: my show, which is almost sold out. Oh. At Thousand
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: Oaks Civic Arts Center, March 16th. It's at heathermcdonald.net. I'm
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: also adding a couple more spring dates, which will be
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: at heathermcdonald.net. That's where you join the Patreon, get the
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: merch that I'm wearing, and coming to see us. So exciting.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: Well, we're going to give you a free cameo.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for my birthday. Okay, okay. I'm going
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: to have Peter do that, where it's like, oh, tell
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: my wife.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 5: Exactly. I love her, love her, love her.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: Love her, love her.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 4: Hey, Heather. We heard from Peter. He's so happy you
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: didn't take SNL.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 5: He wanted to tell you that he's glad that you
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 5: decided to marry him and not be even more famous
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 5: and rich.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: I do do a lot of cameos, and I love it,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: for the nicest husbands in the world. that know that
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: their wives are juicy scoopers.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 4: That's nice.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: But there's just a couple guys that will send it
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: and they'll say, hey, this will be the fourth cameo
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: you've done for my wife. I've done it every year.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 4: She's done.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: Think of another gift.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 4: Not only are you going to ruin your relationship, but
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: you're going to ruin her liking me at this point.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 4: Or do it, but this doesn't count.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: You still need to go to a nice department store
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: or a jewelry store or get her something else. Because
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: there are those guys that are like, oh, my wife
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: likes Prada. And as nice as Prada is, every year
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: they just get her a nice new bag, which she.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: Loves, but also.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: Think about something else. Think about something else.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: Everything is there. Heather MacDonald then. Get your cameos. Follow
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: the girls. Goodbye.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 6: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 6: is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 6: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 6: I'm an early bird, buying one present a week from
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 6: now till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 6: buy in-store or online from Macaulay.ie for home delivery or
• 1:38:49
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• 1:38:50
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• 1:38:51
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