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Hitting the trails at the new Karst Canyon Preserve · Austin Signal

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Williamson County is making changes
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to avoid the chaotic scene that
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unfolded last month on primary
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election day.
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The new change is going back to the
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way things were before this most
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recent election, why it happened,
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and how they're trying to avoid a
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repeat.
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And the Karst Canyon Preserve is
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offering new public access to trails
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and open space in Hayes County.
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The property near Jacobs Well was
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previously slated for residential
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development.
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We've got an audio tour for you
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that's coming up on today's show.
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The Austin Signal is a production
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of KUT News, hosted by
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Jerry Quijano.
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Plus, we really needed those rain
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showers over the weekend, both to
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help with drought and to clear my
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car of its springtime green tint,
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courtesy of all the oak pollen.
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Why does that stuff get everywhere?
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Well, we've got the answer.
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Coming up for you next, that is
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right here on Austin Signal.
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Howdy out there, this is Austin
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Signal, thank you for spending part
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of your Monday here with us.
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It is the sixth day of April,
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we are glad to have you along.
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Thanks for starting the week here
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with us!
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We are a month removed from primary
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election day, and up in Williamson
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County there are changes happening
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to avoid the long lines and
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frustration that some voters endured
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there back in March.
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KUT's Williamson County reporter
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Kaylee Hunt was on the ground until
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late in the night, back on election
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day, and she's been following the
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fallout since then.
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Thanks for being back on The Signal
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with us, Kaylee.
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Yeah, thanks for having me, Jerry.
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So tell us first off about
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this latest change in Williamson
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County ahead of the upcoming May
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runoffs.
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Yeah, so the, you know, the big
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thing we obviously heard a lot of
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those horror stories coming out
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of the March 3rd primary election
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night, all those long wait times
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and confusion about polling
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locations.
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As a result of that, both
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the Williamson County Republican
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and Democratic Party chairs,
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as well as county elections
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officials have decided to revert
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back to countywide
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voting for the runoffs.
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So that means we'll go back to
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the way things have essentially
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operated over the past 10 years or
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so.
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Okay, so a lot of people have had
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opinions on the
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way things played out on Election
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Day. You mentioned a few people
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there. Let's start with the
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Williamson County Election
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Administrator, Bridgette Escobedo.
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She was one of a group of folks who
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spoke recently about what happened
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back in March.
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What did Escobed—Escobedo
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have to say?
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Yeah. So there was actually
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a special commissioner's court
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meeting a couple weeks ago now,
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and Escobedo, she
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sat down along with the elections
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attorney and
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did quite a
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lengthy statement just
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about the election, everything she
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experienced.
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She called it less secure than
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any other election she'd ever seen
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in her career.
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Really emphasize to the
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commissioner's court and the party
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chairs who were also in attendance
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that it just cannot happen again.
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And yeah, so there were several
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issues that she brought up with
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that, one being death
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threats that she and her election
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staff themselves received
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just due to
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misinformation that was going around
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online that was making their jobs
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harder during that Also,
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party officials not
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following proper instructions.
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On Election Day.
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Yeah, yeah, can you mention your
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story talks a little bit about like
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how ballots were delivered to that
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was part of the failure
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Yeah, yeah.
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So the difficulty came
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when the
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Republican Party decided to
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use a different method of voting.
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It's the same voting system, but
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different methods.
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The Republican Party in Williamson
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County used pre-printed
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paper ballots, which were
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then filled out and bubbled in by
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hand on primary
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election day and then put into these
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boxes.
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Not the typical boxes
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that that contains
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scanners that the Williams County
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Elections Department, you know,
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usually you go in and you put your
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ballot in through a scanner and
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after it scans, it drops right into
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a box. Okay, so the Republican Party
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did not have that.
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And so, there's, you know, these
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two different methods going on
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that election workers had to contend
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with.
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And yeah, there was just missing
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paperwork, she said, on several of
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the boxes that the Republicans
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turned in, that actually led to 69
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votes initially.
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Going missing,
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they were later found and counted.
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So, you know, don't worry about
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that. They were counted before
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the official canvas.
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But yeah, just a lot of
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widespread chaos.
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Yeah, and it sounds like you're
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really describing that feeling of
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being a less secure election.
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You mentioned poll workers.
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Both parties admitted that there
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weren't enough poll workers nor
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polling locations.
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Why was that the case this time
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around?
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Yeah, well, I mean, it's important
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to acknowledge that when
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you adopt a precinct based voting
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model, essentially
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that means you need a polling
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location for each precinct within
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the county, right?
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So Williams County has 177
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precincts.
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So ideally you'd have at least
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177 polling
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locations strategically placed
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in each of those precinct throughout
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the county.
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Logistically, like that's just
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really hard to make happen, right.
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And then you also have to account
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for all the extra poll workers.
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So yeah, logistically, because of
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the precinct-based bullying.
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That was hard, but also,
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as Cabello mentioned, just like
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within this current political
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climate that we're in, a lot
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of the back and forth, the talk
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online and in person,
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a lot folks just aren't up for
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either, you know,
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working the polls or offering
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up their locations that they have,
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their businesses,
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or even schools not feeling
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comfortable, you now.
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Hosting, hosting a location.
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What else did you hear at that
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special meeting of
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the county commissioners?
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Yeah, so before
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the meeting even began, Jerry,
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we had about an hour of
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public testimony.
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Room was packed.
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And there were people from both the
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Republican Party,
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the Williamson County Republican
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Party and the Williamston County
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Democratic Party.
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And so, you know, there were,
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there was a little bit of name
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calling, right, between members of
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both the parties, kind of shifting
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blame for some of the issues.
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But Um, overall though...
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We were hearing much of the same
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things, and much of
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that was just the confusion
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and the frustration
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of what voters had
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to endure.
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A lot of folks said that this
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was something that could have been
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prevented. It wasn't well thought
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out.
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And yeah, they were very
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understandably frustrated.
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Well let me ask you, what else are
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you watching between now and then?
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The runoff is set for May 26th.
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Is it now the case that this
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county-wide voting is in
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effect? Does anything else need to
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happen before that's made official?
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No, that is official
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all now.
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So, yeah, I mean, for every
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election, the parties will have
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contracts. So, of course, this issue
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could theoretically come up again in
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the future. But for now, we're set
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for the May 26th
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runoff election. We're going to have
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countywide voting.
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But also just want to plug into, we
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have the May 2nd election,
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which is run by the county, not the
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political parties.
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So countywide vote.
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You can expect countywide Odin.
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Okay, so no confusion
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or less at least a little bit less
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confusion there.
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There's no you don't have to go to
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a specific precinct You can just go
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and vote wherever you can For
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the May 2nd not for
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or that will be the case for the May
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26 as well But was not previously
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back in March.
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Alrighty. Well, we have been
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chatting with Kaylee Hunt She is
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KUT's Williamson County reporter.
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We're gonna have a link to her
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latest reporting in today's show
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notes. Thank you, Kaylee
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Thanks, Jerry.
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Every year around this time, clouds
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of green pollen descend on
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Austin. You can find it on
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sidewalks, on cars, maybe even
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in your hair.
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Basically everywhere.
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KUT's Moe's Bouchaud wanted to find
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out more about it, and now he's
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never going to think about trees the
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same way again.
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A warning, this story does include
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some discussion of reproduction
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of human and tree
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varieties.
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It can be frustrating.
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Yes, you know, I just got my car
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washed.
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Just ask Deandrea Bowens, I caught
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up with her on her way to the
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office.
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Literally got up the next morning my
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car was covered with this green you
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know stuff and even when you put
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water on it it just it makes an
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awful mess
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It can be startling.
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I was sitting on the balcony and I
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looked at this tree just as a gust
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of wind caused this explosion of
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pollen from it.
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Just ask my coworker, Trey Schar.
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Never seen anything like it.
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Like it, and I went, whoa!
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It can even be sneeze-inducing.
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Just ask me.
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Excuse me.
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So we know this stuff is pollen this
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time of year, oak pollen, but why
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does it get everywhere?
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I'm standing in front of the
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biological laboratory at UT Austin.
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Even the front steps of the building
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are dusted with green.
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I came here for answers.
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Do you want the answer for the
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freshman or for the after
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dinner party or the scientific
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answer? You're gonna cut that out.
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Professor Norma Fowler studies and
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teaches plant biology at UT.
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Give me the after-dinner party
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answer to start with.
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Plants have sex.
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They really do.
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So you're saying we're surrounded by
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tree sex.
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Acorns come from somewhere, they
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come from sex.
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That was a new way of looking at
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things.
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Here's how it works.
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When humans want to reproduce,
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they choose a partner.
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Trees are a little less
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discriminated.
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Oak trees have both male flowers
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and female flowers.
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The male flowers, you see piles of
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them on the ground this time of
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year, they're these little strands
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called catkins.
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What they do is they just throw
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the pollen, which is what the male
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flowers produce, throw it out into
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the wind.
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Then, basically, just hope for
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the best.
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And then the female flowers are very
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small, they look like little
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brushes, and they just
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strain that pollen out of the wind.
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That's plant sac.
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It's also why the pollen gets
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everywhere.
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Trees need to produce tons of
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it if any is going to reach the
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female flowers.
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But an awful lot of the pollen
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doesn't get to the females.
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It lands on the sidewalks, it lands
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on cars, it gets in our noses.
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It works well for the trees but not
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always for the people that live near
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them
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I'm, uh, I have allergy.
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Wiping your nose.
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Yes, sorry, it's a
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bad day today.
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That's the price we pay for our
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iconic oak trees.
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I'm properly drugged up with proper
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over-the-counter drugs like
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everybody else in Austin today.
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Full disclosure, I am too.
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Yes. So there you have it.
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Sex, drugs, and plant biology.
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I'm Mose Buchel, KUT News.
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Whoa. Ha ha ha ha
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A new nature preserve is now
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open in Wimberley.
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The 175-acre property
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lets visitors explore a network of
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trails connected to the Jacobs
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Well Natural Area.
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KUT's Hayes County reporter Lee
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Walden went out for a hike.
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A sea of birding binoculars
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and hiking boots compete for real
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estate near a trail map.
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We're at the trailhead for the Karst
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Canyon Preserve.
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Around 100 people are here to
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celebrate the Preserve's grand
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opening.
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Among them is Catherine Sturdivant.
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I, like a lot of people here
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today, probably have
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something in common in that I just
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spent a lot time outdoors as a kid.
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Steered of it as the Parks Education
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Coordinator for Hayes County Parks
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and Natural Resources Department.
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She walks me through the two miles
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of trails.
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Thankfully, she seems to anticipate
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my first question.
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What the heck is karst, anyways?
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Come find out at Karst Canyon
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Preserve, where you can walk on it,
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look at it, and
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be surrounded by it.
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To me, it kind of just looks like
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the woods, but under the surface,
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there's a whole different world.
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Karst canyon preserve is named
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for the topography it protects,
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which is this karst landscape,
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a soft limestone formed
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by dissolution of water that carves
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and cuts through this limestone,
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creating all these beautiful karst
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features, like these caves.
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And cracks and fissures and
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sinkholes.
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And what's really awesome about this
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preserve is that over a hundred
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karst features have been ID'd on
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this 175 acres.
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And you get to see a gigantic one
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here in the middle of the trail, the
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Wimberley Bat Cave, where water is
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pouring down into our aquifers
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every time it rains.
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You also get a sneak peek at the
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Golden Cheeked Warbler, which is
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just such an iconic bird.
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If you're into birding, if you're
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just starting birding that's the
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one to see. It's that rare one that
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everybody's looking for.
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That we get to have every single
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year because it just lives here with
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us.
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I don't know if you can tell, but
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the golden cheek borbler is kind of
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a local legend.
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The small black bird with bright
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yellow spots on its sides only
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nests in the Texas hill country.
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It relies on the bark of ash juniper
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trees that grow here.
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Using the bark, spider webs,
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and what I imagine is a great deal
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of patience, the songbirds knit
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their nests.
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There it is.
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Mm-hmm.
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The whole trail hums with
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birds on.
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The opening of the preserve connects
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to nearby Jacob's Well.
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The landscape's beautiful and the
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trails are great.
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We've only got about three miles
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of trail at Jacobsville Natural
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Area, but if you're looking for kind
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of a meatier hike, a beefier
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walk with a little more of a
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challenge, you can now get more like
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five, six miles in if you
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hike through all of the trails that
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we've got. And these give you a
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little challenge than those flat
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granite trails.
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So you're a little bit more connected
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to nature out here than it feels
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like you're in a park.
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More trails are going to be opened
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over time within the preserve, but
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it is a preserve, so a majority of
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it will stay off limits to the
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public. That also means more trails
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will be opened in the future.
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There are extra rules.
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One being that dogs are not allowed.
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They're a predator species, they're
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sent and their behavior can be
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disruptive to small
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prey animals especially during
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breeding season.
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We don't want things like dogs that
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can be disruptive too their breeding
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behavior.
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It seems like Sturdivant knows the
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name and story for every species we
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pass, interrupting herself only with
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the most pressing of new
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discoveries.
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Oh, we found some poop.
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Yes.
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Oh, look at that.
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Yeah, it's like I could be Fox
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for sure.
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A lot of fruit, little seeds in
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there. Oh, you love to see poop
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on the trail.
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So if you're looking for a slice of
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nature, a peek at the Golden Sheep
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Warbler, or to experience the rush
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of fresh trail scat, the Karst
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Canyon Preserve is now open.
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From Hayes County, I'm Leigh Walden.
15:33
Thank you for spending part of your
15:34
Monday here with Austin Signal.
15:36
We're gonna have a link to the
15:37
stories featured in today's episode
15:38
in the podcast show notes and
15:40
at kut.org
15:42
slash Signal.
15:44
Coming up, the Artemis II mission
15:45
has captured the attention and
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imaginations of many Texans and
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Americans. We're going to hear from
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one of the astronauts on that
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journey. That is next on
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If someone shows you an album
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cover of a record called Texas,
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well what would you the music on
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that record to sound like.
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While Jason Mellard from the Center
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for Texas Music History at Texas
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State University goes over
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drummer, composer, and Fort Worth
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native Ronald Shannon Jackson
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Decoding Society have taken stages
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Brown asked mission specialist
19:30
Christina Cook what it felt like to
19:32
be selected for the Artemus
19:34
mission.
19:35
It means so many different things.
19:37
I think the first thing I focus on
19:39
is the mission itself.
19:40
I often say I don't think I could be
19:41
any happier about it no matter who
19:43
was assigned. It's just awesome that
19:45
we are doing this mission.
19:46
We're going back to the moon, we're
19:47
going to stay, we're gonna take what
19:49
we learn, apply it to going to Mars,
19:51
and the fact that we're doing that
19:53
right now is just so exciting.
19:55
It means a great deal to me
19:57
to be involved in any way that I
19:59
can in this
20:01
truly answering humanity's call
20:03
to explore.
20:04
You know, NASA hasn't sent
20:05
astronauts to the Moon in the last
20:06
50 years, I was saying, but a lot's
20:09
happened in the field of space
20:10
exploration in between that period.
20:12
Why is returning to the moon so
20:14
important?
20:16
It's a great leaping off
20:18
point for all of our future
20:19
exploration.
20:20
The things that we've learned since
20:22
the Apollo era are many,
20:24
many. We've learned that we can
20:26
go into space and stay for a long
20:28
period of time and do deep space
20:30
exploration missions.
20:31
We recognize now we have the
20:33
technology to do a Mars mission once
20:35
it's developed and we learn how to
20:37
live in a sustained way on the moon.
20:39
But I think most of all, what we've
20:41
learnt is that it's very important.
20:44
To go for all and by all
20:46
as we answer humanity's call to
20:48
explore. We represent all of
20:49
humanity and we're really taking
20:51
that with us on this journey.
20:53
You know, something that strikes me,
20:56
a lot seems to be on your
20:57
shoulders in particular.
20:59
I mean, you were talking there about
21:00
how much of this is about
21:02
testing out the new equipment and,
21:04
you know, for the eventual landing.
21:07
And you are an electrical engineer,
21:09
your title onboard mission
21:11
specialist.
21:12
What are you responsible for in this
21:13
mission?
21:14
As a mission specialist,
21:16
I think our big role is
21:18
twofold.
21:20
One, we are executing
21:22
all the skills that we learned as
21:23
astronauts in followership, which
21:25
means we're supporting our commander
21:26
and pilot who are going to be at the
21:28
displays, at the controls, and we're
21:30
going to make sure that holistically
21:32
as a crew, we respond to every
21:34
emergency, to every challenge,
21:36
to every operation with
21:38
complete and total high
21:40
performance and efficiency.
21:42
And we're basically charged
21:44
with making sure that all of the
21:45
systems operate to their peak
21:47
performance. And that really takes a
21:48
crew of four to ensure that that's
21:50
true.
21:51
So anytime we're tasked with, you
21:53
know, something like making sure
21:55
the radiation shielding inside the
21:57
spacecraft can be configured
21:58
properly.
21:59
Making sure that the life support
22:01
systems and even the exercise
22:03
equipment can truly support a
22:05
crew four on a mission like this.
22:07
Every single person is needed for
22:09
that. I do hope as an
22:11
engineer that I get to put some of
22:12
that experience to bear, and I think
22:14
a big part of that is going to
22:15
actually be before we ever even
22:17
launch. It's going to be working
22:18
with the designers of this vehicle
22:20
to make sure that our plans for
22:22
operating it are optimized as we go
22:24
forward, and that is a true
22:25
exciting thing about the
22:27
developmental mission.
22:28
Well, I know that there are going to
22:29
be a lot of Texans and folks around
22:31
the world watching you and your crew
22:32
blast off next year.
22:33
What should we be looking for?
22:35
What would you like to see those of
22:36
us on Earth, especially young
22:38
people learning from Artemis
22:40
II?
22:41
Oh thank you for that support and I
22:43
think the big thing is to
22:45
see what this mission is
22:47
as an example of what you can do
22:49
when you strive for something
22:50
greater than yourself and you're not
22:52
afraid to work together to take
22:53
on huge challenges.
22:56
Personal motivation, leaning into
22:58
the things that scare you, the
22:59
things you're passionate about, and
23:01
supporting the others around you
23:03
that are doing the same, that's all
23:04
part of what's gonna get us to the
23:06
moon. And to return us safely
23:08
back to Earth. And I hope that as
23:10
an analog, as a
23:12
metaphor for that journey that
23:13
everyone's on, we can inspire.
23:20
That was the voice of astronaut
23:21
Christina Cook speaking with Texas
23:23
Standard host David Brown a few
23:25
years back about the Artemis 2 moon
23:27
mission.
23:28
She is currently in space right now
23:29
on her way to orbit the moon.
23:31
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23:32
of this conversation in our podcast
23:34
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