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The Study of the Book of Colossians Part 6 - Simply Christ Podcast · Simply Christ Podcast

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Welcome back to the Simply Christ podcast hosted by Leon
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Martin, along with Aaron Keaton, Melvin Martin, Andrew Schrock
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and Dan Blatz. Let's get right to it.
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Before we get started, I'll open up with a word of prayer.
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God, thank you for this day. Thank you for your word.
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Thank you for the Holy Spirit and God.
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Thank you for your gift of life through your Son Jesus and God.
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We look to you tonight that you would open our ears, our hearts,
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our minds to the truth, that we could teach it accurately and
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that our hearers could be edified and that they could
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learn of you, God, because like we were discussing before we
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started, our victory lies in you, not our will power.
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And that we thank you God, because left to ourselves, we
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would be in dire straits. God, we thank you.
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We praise you for your goodness in Jesus name, Amen.
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Amen. I had to think about, you know,
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dealing with sin or whatever Jesus said when he was accused
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of being A and this kind of goes back out.
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Jesus said it when he was accused of being a devil or
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devil possessed or whatever. He said that you know what the
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devil can cast out a devil, you know, and that's how our how our
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flesh is. It's hard for us to deal with
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the flesh can't deal with the deeds of the flesh doesn't work.
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The Spirit does. So anyway, Colossians, and we're
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actually going to be talking about some of this stuff here
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through the text, but verse 28 is where we're going to start.
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Chapter one, verse 28, we're going to start off there.
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At. That says whom we preach,
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warning every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we
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may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.
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Whereunto I also labor, striving according to his working, which
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worketh in me mightily. I'm going to put those two
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together. You can take whatever part of it
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you want to comment on, but this comes on the heels of him.
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Last week we discussed quite a bit about the dispensation.
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He calls it multiple places a a mystery.
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So this this dispensation, this this the presence of God living
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inside of us, God living inside of us in in us.
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The Holy Spirit living in US is a new concept in the
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dispensation of grace. And he was talking about how
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that he made this known, made it manifest to the believers.
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This is what he's talking about here.
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That's the context that we're in.
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So in verse 27, he says to whom God would make known what is the
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riches of the glory of this mystery to the Gentile among the
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Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
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And now he's saying whom we preach, warning every man and
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teaching every man in all wisdom that we may present every man
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perfect in Christ Jesus. And I just had to think, and
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I'll turn it over to you, Dan, but that we may present every
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man perfect and cry. That is a bold statement.
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He's saying that we might present.
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I don't know. How do you how do you parse
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that? I just I was, I just saw that
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and I, I was like, man, that's something.
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Go ahead. First of all I'd like to ask, is
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there a ticking sound at all? I have electric shocker outside
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the other day I heard it on my recording.
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You guys don't hear a ticking? OK, I do not.
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Perfect. Yes, I the first word of this
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verse is of utmost importance to me.
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Or sorry, the yeah, the first word whom we preach.
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And I really like that because many people preach a gospel,
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they preach a message, they preach principles, they preach
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death and resurrection, They preach all kinds of things.
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But sometimes they can fail to preach the whom and recognizing
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that it, it is a message that we preach, but we're delivering a
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person, we're delivering the the Lord Christ Jesus in our
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messaging. It is him that we preach.
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And in the book, throughout the book of Acts, you can see that
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they went everywhere preaching Jesus or preaching the
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resurrection. And so be careful when you
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preach, when you share the gospel with somebody, when you
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even are just witnessing to your coworkers that you're not
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preaching a formula, that you're not preaching 7 steps to
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salvation, that you're not preaching.
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And he'll come to church and God will do the rest or do your best
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and God will fix it the rest. You know that kind of thing.
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Preach a man, preach what he has done.
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And it's, it's when people understand and know whom God has
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given to us. And when you hear the message of
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that man, the Lord Jesus Christ, that the Spirit of God comes
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into you and he makes himself known to you and he dwells
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within you. And that's that hope of glory
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that we have, right? But along with preaching the
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man, preaching him also we have these warnings that we
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participate in. We warn every man and we teach
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every man in all wisdom. Now in the book of First
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Corinthians chapter 1 and 2, Paul makes a really big argument
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about the wisdom of God being actually, he says that the
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foolishness of God is wiser than the wisdom of man.
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And so God in his foolishness, which is actually wisdom used a
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method and a person that the world kind of scoffs at that the
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Jews stumble at and this man is on is made unto us wisdom and
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righteousness and sanctification.
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And so here it says we warn every man and teach every man in
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all wisdom. So even when you're presenting
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warnings to Christians, even when you're presenting wisdom to
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Christians, even those things are found in Christ.
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The wisdom that we have in Christ is in Christ.
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It is only in him that we find this.
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And so the, the part about presenting every man perfect is
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like a, a deep burden that the apostle Paul seems to have on
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him. And I, I don't know if like I
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think I can understand your almost your dilemma or a bit of
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a conflict almost in our teaching, because on one hand,
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the moment they believe the gospel, we've already seen in
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verse 18, I believe it was or somewhere in that range. 20 that
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we are presented by the Lord Jesus to the Father as holy and
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unblameable and unreprovable in his sight.
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So through the death, burial and resurrection of Christ, we are
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made holy, unblameable and unreprovable.
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So why is Paul now laboring and working and trying hard to make
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sure that he presents every man perfect in Christ Jesus?
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There is a walk to the faith that we have.
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I don't think I have the full deep answer here perhaps that
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maybe some people will be looking for.
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But Paul says it again in 2nd Corinthians 5 that he was
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constrained by the love of God. Knowing the terror of the Lord,
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he says we persuade men. And then he says it is the love
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of God that constraineth us, because we thus judge that if
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one died for all, then we're all dead.
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And so now he wants us all to continue.
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And I guess this flies in the face of this concept of the,
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the, the Baptist doctrine of one saved always say, like, say a
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prayer when you're 6 years old, walk down the aisle and then
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you're good to go like this. This passage seems to indicate
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that Paul went everywhere preaching the gospel.
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And then those that he had preached the gospel to, he would
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warn them and he would teach them and try to present every
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one of them as a stable, mature, helpful Christian that's
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actually contributing to the body like every joint is
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supplying. And that was his goal and his
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desire for the church, that it wouldn't be just a, a quick
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conversion on a, you know, a revival meeting or at a special
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meeting and then you go on about your life.
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But rather there's this continual walk and faithfulness,
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not leaving the simplicity of the gospel and moving on to
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workspace or principle based Christianity, but a continuing
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on in that and walking according walk worthy of the calling
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wherewith we are called. So there's a lot of verses that
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come to mind as you start thinking this way.
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It isn't a relaxed casual Christianity.
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There is some real devotion required, but it's not like you
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better be holy or else God tosses you out.
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Like there's this really beautiful balance, right?
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So I'm sure Aaron or Andrew's got some some ways to correct me
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there or to add to that. Yeah, I have some thoughts on it
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a little bit too. But go ahead, Andrew, with what
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you're thinking and, and or, or the whole verse or whatever, go
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from there. Yeah, it it, it can throw you.
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It's like a little bit of a curveball if you don't follow
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the story. So first of all, he started out
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in chapter 1 talking about the wisdom of God and that he prays
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nonstop that we would grow in in spiritual wisdom and
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understanding. And then he tells us the
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completion of the work of Christ so thoroughly, like Dan was
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saying, where we're unblameable and unreprovable in his sight.
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And the people that he preaches to and warns is to keep them
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established in that faith. So if you believe the gospel
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according to what Paul is teaching here, the finished work
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refuses Christ where you're blame unblameable and
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unreprovable on his side. If you believe that gospel,
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that's perfection. Like that means you believe
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everything that Christ did and you're going with it, which is
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perfect, right? Like that's great.
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The reason I believe it's more that way is because of how he
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starts warning us. He in the next very next
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chapter, he's going to tell us, OK, I say all these things to
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tell you this. Don't start keeping some of
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these laws. Don't get enticed with
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traditions of men, philosophy vain, deceived after tradition,
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after the traditions of men and not after Christ.
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Now it's no longer perfect. It anything that all of a sudden
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is after the law is no longer pure.
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It's no longer presenting every man perfect in Christ Jesus.
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There's a problem you're saying you're it's not perfected in
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Christ. You're not perfected forever
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them that are sanctified. Jesus is not everything that he
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just got done saying yes. So he's saying, I think he's
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saying it's a, it's a, a big job to keep warning and telling
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people to stay in the faith and not start with their own works
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again or put confidence in the flesh.
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And another thing that that makes me think that is about he
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just slipped in that this dispensation of grace.
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So Jesus before he died, he participated in the Sabbath
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days. He participated in a lot of the
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Passover stuff, all that stuff he participated in.
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So it's a, makes a big argument for everybody to say, well,
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Jesus still did all that. So of course he still wants us
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to do all that. But it was Jesus Christ after he
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was risen from the dead that revealed the Gospel and the
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dispensation of grace to Paul after he was risen from the
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dead. And that's when everything
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changed. That's when the new dispensation
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I believe started was when he rose from the dead.
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And that's when he changed his tune.
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It was no longer, He was no longer coming and telling or
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talking about what you have to do in order to get him to the
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Kingdom of heaven. He was now talking about
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redemption because the redemption has been made.
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Blood in the real temple has been sprinkled, the offering
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that was required has been accomplished, and now he's
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presenting Saints perfect in himself.
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And I think he's warning us and every man to not walk away from
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that because that power, that that gospel that we believe
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works in him mightily. It works.
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So don't move away from it. Yeah, that's good.
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And but this, this is kind of the way I understood it too, you
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know, is he says whereunto I also labor there in verse 29.
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So he's saying that he is laboring that he may present
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every man perfect in Christ Jesus.
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So what was he laboring for? To get people into Christ Jesus,
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right, whereby they get their perfection.
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So, yeah, I mean, I agree with you, Dan.
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There's there's definitely, I mean, yeah, if you don't see
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some kind of a change in somebody, you know, I, I guess
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you'd probably have reason to question whether they're
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believers believing or not or whatever.
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I mean, you can use that fruit thing or whatever, but right
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here his his labor, I believe is to present people perfect in
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Christ Jesus. Yeah.
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You know, if you if you look at the text, like if you get, if
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you get real critical with the text that it he is, he is
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laboring that he may present every man perfect in Christ
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Jesus, not laboring to keep them walking in perfection.
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Yeah. I mean, I don't know, maybe
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that's an end. Maybe that's.
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That's where I was trying to go with it because.
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Is the every man there? Sorry, is the every man there
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not Christians then? I would say it's believers and
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non believers all together. It's just it's a very broad
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statement. The the only way you're going to
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be presented perfect is if you believe the gospel.
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You just got done sharing. Yeah.
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So it's a challenge and he's constantly wanting and working
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and striving to keep people to just believe the gospel, to
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believe Christ, whether it's a safe person or unsafe.
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You, you want them to believe the gospel, not you're not
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trying to get them to get their life together as much as you're
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trying to get them to believe the gospel that works in him
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mightily. Like if you, Dan, you know as
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well as anybody that when you believe the gospel, it changes
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you, you will be different. And maybe it means some of that
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too. It could very well.
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But just the fact of what he said before and then what he
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says after makes me think more along what Leon was saying.
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Yeah, because he goes on then warning them.
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Yeah, I was going to say let's let's continue in the text.
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I think that might even become apparent kind of as we go there.
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OK, Chapter 2, verse one for I would that ye knew what great
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conflict I have for you and for them at Laodicea and for as many
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as have not seen my face in the flesh.
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And I don't know if there's a whole lot to come in on that
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verse, Dan, if you if there's anything you want.
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I know it's kind of hooked together with verse 2, but
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Laodicea was a city or town, right by Colossi, I guess.
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And if you look in I was, I was trying to figure out why This is
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why Laodicea because I thought this was written to Colossi,
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right? The Saints, the believers at
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Colossi. But in chapter 4, verse 16, he
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entreats the people there to read this also in the Church of
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the Laodiceans. Right.
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So and then I was Googling a little bit and that was they
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were two towns that were kind of close together or almost
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together or something like that. So yeah, any other commenting on
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that? Yeah, I like back to the
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previous passage there, and that does definitely extend into this
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portion here as well, that the labor that he was worth, that
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was working in him mightily was the the labor of the gospel that
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God was working in him. And I, I've definitely had times
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when I'm trying to keep up with the work that God is doing in my
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life, trying to minister the gospel in a way that is being
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revealed to me or that is true to me, right?
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And there's other times when I, I lack that same drive that the
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apostle had, right? Where he's like, I'm just trying
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to keep up with the work that God is doing in my heart.
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And he's, he's working in me mightily.
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And I'm laboring to present every man because of that.
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But yeah, here he continues and expands on that.
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What does that mean, this labor that you have?
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He said. I had great conflict for you and
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for them at Laodicea, and for as many as I've not seen my face in
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the flesh, He had this great desire.
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Did you read just verse one? I did, I did because verse 2 I
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will test spent a little time on.
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Yeah, yeah. So many of the churches were
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established as a direct result of the Apostle Paul's work, but
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this church, as well as the Laodiceans, all the sounds of
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it, were not. They were churches that had been
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started perhaps through apophoditis or some other person
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that that had done work through the apostle Paul or under the
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apostle Paul or some other apostle all together.
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But Paul said at the end of chapter one that he was striving
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to keep up with the working of God on a working in him because
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he had this great conflict for them.
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And then he's going to expand on what that conflict looks like.
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Yeah, it wasn't in in Revelation, is it?
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I was good. I was checking it on my Bible
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app real quick, but it wasn't lace.
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Laodicea was at the church. That was lukewarm, I think.
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Yeah. So, you know, they were already
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needing instruction here, obviously.
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But anyway, Andrew. Yeah, I would say he's
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explaining the verses we just went through more like he's just
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telling us what he means about warning every man and teaching
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every man in all wisdom. And he's going to explain it
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more in the very next verse. And I think Dan did a good job,
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but I'm not going to say much to that.
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I just think it's yeah, he's progressing and he wishes he
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would therapy there in the flesh in a certain extent just like
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tell him straight up. I did think of Galatians one
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where he says that he's surprised how soon they removed
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from the gospel to another gospel.
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So there you can vary black and white.
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See the striving, the heavyweight, the compassion that
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Paul has for people that he preached this gospel that
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presents you blame was that that works that works mightily and
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you get off of it as quick as the idea of circumcision and you
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get so upset in Galatians that if you know what if you're
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circumcised, Christ provides you zero.
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I mean that tells the kind of the words going with this I
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would say. Would you guys say with this
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present every man perfect in Christ Jesus thought throughout
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the book of Hebrews. We talked about this repeatedly
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that there's warning after warning after warning.
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Stay in the faith, continue believing, stay firm unto the
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end. Do you know if you depart from
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Christ there's no hope for you that kind of warning that kind
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of teaching the the idea is that you are perfect in Christ Jesus
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and I want to present you that way on the day of Christ Jesus
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like you want to continue holding fast, continue standing
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firm. Is that kind of the type of
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striving and laboring to present every man that you're talking
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about? That's what I'm talking about.
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Yeah. It's talking about keeping
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people in the faith, in the pure faith, in the pure gospel.
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It's not getting sidetracked by messianic Jewish doctrines, what
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he calls them, doctrines of devils, and other passages where
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they try to bring in touch, not taste, not handle, not food like
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rudiments of the world. And they say, well, that what
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he's saying is what that does, it takes away from the
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confidence of the hope that we have in Christ Jesus.
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And it does. Obviously experience will tell
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you that that it does. And he will tell us later.
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I think in this book also that if you're worried about the sin
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issue, if believe in the gospel doesn't change your life as far
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as a Sinner, which is what a lot of people like to focus on, then
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we can go to verses that deal with sin.
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I don't think he's talking about sin here in the in the which it
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is sin to go after another gospel.
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I'm not saying it's not, but I think he's not talking about
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lust or in a way like, Oh, you looked at pornography today.
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So you you need to strive. And that's not Paul wasn't
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trying to battle pornography here.
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He's he's battling people believing in other things to
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perfect the word of Christ or they're, they can't just trust
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and walk in Christ. I think like, yeah, like
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Hebrews, I would say. Yeah, that would, that's really
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good. Then I, I appreciate that
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question. I think that question actually
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clarifies kind of what we're talking about here now because
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what good is faith if you discontinue it?
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You know you're you're you're going to want that faith when
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you stand in front of the judgement seat, don't you?
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That you know, what good is it going to have done you if if at
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the end you still fail. So yeah, that's definitely where
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we want to be. OK I'm going to mute brat
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Andrew. I got some your noise coming
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through there. Verse 2.
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For their hearts might be comforted, being knit together
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in love, and unto all riches, of the full assurance of
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understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery
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of God, and of the Father, and of Christ, in whom are hid all
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the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
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And this, this I like. This is really good.
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I think this is so good because he is striving.
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His labor is that their hearts might be comforted, and that
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they might be knit together in love and unto all riches of the
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full assurance of understanding. Doesn't this go back right to
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chapter 1? We were right when He started
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into it. One of His things was in verse
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9. He said that he does not cease
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to pray for you and to desire that ye might be filled with the
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knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual
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understanding. So I mean that I loved it.
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This is really good. And he, so he's consistent with
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the theme right here. It looks like to me, he, he
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really wants people to understand this, this
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dispensation of grace that he is explaining here.
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That's what he's after, isn't he?
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Yeah, I'm, I'm reminded right away for some reason of the
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Church of God. We've got a Church of God here
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in the in the area and their pride themselves on their
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uniformity and how they all look the same, they all dress the
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same, they do their business the same.
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And the apostle Paul wasn't striving mightily to make sure
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that the church would all look and act the same way.
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You know, he had a much, much higher aim and goal.
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And that comes out here very clearly that their hearts might
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be comforted. Your heart is not comforted by
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your external performances. Your heart is comforted by a
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truth that Christ is in you, and that is the hope of glory, and
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that because of that, Andrew and I have that same hope of glory.
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Leon and I have that same hope of glory.
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So then our hearts can be knit together in love because you too
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have that seed of eternal life within you.
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And then that full assurance of understanding, whereas external
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religious duty and pressure to perform to meet the certain this
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the certain, what's the word denominational standards of each
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church or each sect of church like that doesn't give assurance
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of understanding. It usually robs it because I'm
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not quite measuring up. I'm not as good as preacher.
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So and so, you know, I, I haven't quite been as zealous as
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I ought to have been, But he wants our hearts comforted and
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he wants complete, absolute, utter assurance in our heart of
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the mystery of God, acknowledging that great mystery
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that God was manifest in the flesh, took our sins upon
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himself and made us perfect, and that we would stand firm in that
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perfection in that gospel. So the conflict he had for us is
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I'm striving, I'm fighting, I'm working hard.
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Why? I want your heart to be
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comforted. You want me to be comforted?
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Yeah, 'cause I want you to have an assurance of your salvation
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and that it would continue in Christ only and nothing else.
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So that gives me confidence in the work of God.
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Paul worked hard to make sure that people would trust in God's
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work, you know, And that's, that's a beautiful thing, I
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think. Well, couldn't be said any
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better right there. That's rich, I'm telling.
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Made me think while you were talking there, Dan Ephesians, 43
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says, endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit.
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That's what he's after, you know, makes the, the unity of
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dress look so shallow and insignificant in the in the
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whole picture, Andrew. Am I on mood?
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Yes, I will be legit. Yep.
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So yeah, this is absolutely glorious.
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If if you can read this and not get fired up, look at what he
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says. Being knit together in love, not
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law, Love unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding.
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You know the fastest way to doubt is to look to yourself and
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your record of how you've done in the past.
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What should I do today? How did how did I do this last
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week? Did I keep the Sabbath day the
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way I should have? Man, I ate a hot dog, but I feel
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like there was some pork in it. I I'm a little guilty about it.
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I know that it does quite see this is where he's going with
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this. The people who were doing touch
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not taste not handle not and he said if you do this, you're
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spoiling the gospel. He says the word a man spoil you
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through philosophy. So that's no longer presenting
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every man perfect. It's a spoiled gospel, which is
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not a gospel. And I'm telling you, the gospel
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of Jesus Christ will knit your hearts together in love.
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And if you're unsure, unsettled, unstable, you're tossed to and
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fro by every wind of doctrine, it might be you need to look
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into the doctrine of Jesus Christ and just get to Him.
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Amen. That's good stuff.
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And and it goes exactly in verse 3.
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You know, I read that too. And I don't know if you want to
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comment on anything there, but in whom?
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What is it talking about? Wait a minute, who's in whom end
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of Christ? In whom are he at all the
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treasures of knowledge? So he's talking about that.
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His labor of his labor is to get us perfect in Christ Jesus,
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right? That's what we were talking
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about and part of the reason that he wants us in Christ Jesus
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is that is where all these things reside.
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Love the riches of his full assurance, the acknowledgement,
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the mystery that's all in there in whom are hid all the
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treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
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That's where it's at boys, boys and girls at that is where it's
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at that's. Yeah, you can't.
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You can't have a law without having guilt.
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You can't believe in a principle and have a conviction about some
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principle without having guilt to a certain extent, a little
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bit of condemnation. I've had people say, well, I'm
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really convicted about this doctrine.
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And it was about a law. It was like a Sabbath day.
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I I'm just genuinely convicted and I'm trying to shake it, but
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I'm just really convicted, you know, and I just like for us to
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picture ourselves for the day of judgement.
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And God was going to say, look, you believed on me, but not
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completely why? So I was just so convicted.
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My conscience just wouldn't allow me not to keep the Sabbath
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day. I was just so convicted about
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it. Then what if God then says, but
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didn't you read where I said people that do that and teach
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those things, their conscience is defiled.
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Did you read that part like maybe you're being guilty or
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convicted about something that is doesn't need to be because
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you've been defiled because you're believing a lie.
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So I think that's where Paul is going with this.
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True freedom, full assurance and confidence has to be separate
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from us. Now, what is good and powerful
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is the fruit of believing the gospel.
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There is joy, there is peace and there's freedom from sin, but
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he's working from the heart from within, not trying to paint an
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evil heart good with a bunch of works.
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It's the out working of the Holy Ghost within us that changes
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what comes out of our mouth, not what goes into our mouth, not
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our youth food exit. So that is where God is going.
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He wants to go to your heart, change you from within, make you
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a new creature in him and have you believe that you're free
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from sin, you're free from your own righteousness.
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You're completely resolved in his righteousness and that's
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where you stand. And if anything good comes from
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you, comes out of my mouth, it's because I believe in Jesus
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Christ and that he made me a new creature.
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And that's it. Free right there.
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That's good, good stuff. Yeah, the, the idea that Christ
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is in you, the hope of glory, is a great mystery that was kept
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secret from the time the world began and is now being revealed
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to us. That word mystery, I found a
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really good definition of it that I thought was very
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applicable to this passage. It's it said this.
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It is a profound secret, something wholly unknown, or
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something cautiously concealed, kept cautiously concealed, and
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therefore exciting curiosity and wonder.
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And so now what is this great mystery that we speak of?
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It is the fact that God disposed himself of all of his riches and
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poured them into one man and not allowed us complete and full
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access to Him by faith. Now all the riches of wisdom and
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knowledge in God are hid in Christ Jesus, but he has been
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revealed to us and he's actually inside of us.
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Christ in you, the hope of glory.
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You know that it's not. We're not trying to become the
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perfect man. We are in Christ Jesus complete
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and perfect and in that finding that and understanding that and
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and and developing your knowledge of that is great
31:49
comfort. It is great riches and wealth to
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your mind and to your heart and to your life without
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controversy. Great is the mystery of
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godliness. God was manifest in the flesh,
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seen of angels, justified in the Spirit, so on and so forth,
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believed on the world, received up in the glory.
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But now even greater than that is Christ is now in US, right,
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And all the wisdom of knowledge is hidden Him in that passage I
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quoted earlier, 1st Corinthians 130 But of him are ye in Christ
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Jesus, who of God has made unto us wisdom and righteousness and
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sanctification and redemption. It's a pretty complete gospel,
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folks. And for the people that want to
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say, oh, you want license to sin, are you trying to get out
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of the picture or you you don't want to be accountable for your
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actions. Do you want to be accountable
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for your actions? Do you really like if I have to
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pay for my sins, then I'm going to hell.
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If I have to like you, you, you just want enough grace.
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See, you see, I, the wisdom of God says that we're too far
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gone, too far gone to come off of God a little bit of
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circumcision or to come and offer God a little bit of
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Sabbath keeping or to come and offer God a little bit of hey,
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I'm not eating dirty meat. To us, spiritual wisdom and
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understanding says that it's blasphemous, almost like it's
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how insulting, you know, like Dan was saying, I just like we
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already gave up on ourselves. I gave up on my righteousness
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completely all the way gave up. I am relying on his
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righteousness, on his goodness. And if good things come out of
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me and I do good things, then that's fruit of that.
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It's not me trying to be that. Yes, right, it does.
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It does, but it's 100% right. All right, going to read the
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next verse, which is a verse that we've been kind of bouncing
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off of already for the last two or three maybe sessions a little
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bit. And this I say so he just So
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what he just got done talking about here in two and three.
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And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing
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words. What enticing words?
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Well, this is this is what Andrew has been harping on here,
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and he's going to get into that more and more.
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But if you want to know about enticing words in the devil's
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tactics, we're not ignorant of his devices.
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In Genesis chapter 3, Eve came or so the serpent came to Eve
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and beguiled her. In Genesis chapter 3 to the
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guile. To beguile is to delude or to
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deceive. And here he says, be careful
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lest any man beguile you with enticing words.
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The there's false teachers, false prophets, religious
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people, Judaizers in this case that are trying to beguile you
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with enticing words. And it will seem enticing.
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It will appear more godly in some cases.
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Thinking again to the Church of God, I went in there once and I
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was super impressed with their order, with their singing, with
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their excitement, with their seeming joy.
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They were really, really excited that they had found the place to
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worship. And it was enticing to some
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degree. But don't you think that somehow
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deceivers will always sound convincing?
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That's what deceiving is. The reason why it's deceptive is
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because it seems like it's pretty good.
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It's beguiling. Their words seem enticing.
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It would seem almost like truth. And and they write whole books
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of their enticing words and how, how could they then be wrong?
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They've written books on it. There's there's a couple
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generations go back with this teaching.
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It's it's there. Like it's not just some guy
35:49
making it up. So then it starts sounding
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scriptural. I mean, they'll even school,
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they'll quote the Bible on almost every pass, every page of
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their book. So clearly they're not making
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this stuff up, right. It seems enticing that they are
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enticing with words. They don't find all the wisdom
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and knowledge in Christ. They do it rather with these
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enticing words, right? So many are so naive to think
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that people wouldn't ever try to trick them.
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But The thing is that the people who are often enticing people or
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deceiving people are themselves also deceived.
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So they can say it with all sincerity.
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They can. They can present it like it's
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really, really real for them because they have had some kind
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of experience with the from the day that they started keeping
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the Sabbath. They just feel so much better.
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They feel so much clearer in their spirit and their heart,
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and they have all kinds of scriptural proof as to why they
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should keep the Sabbath, but they miss Christ.
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In Second Corinthians 11/2 Paul says this, I am jealous over you
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with a godly jealousy, for I have espoused you to one
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husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin, but I fear
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lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his
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subtlety, that your mind should be corrupted from the simplicity
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that is in Christ. That's exactly the warning Paul
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was giving every church. He went to Galatians,
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Colossians, Corinthians, he just, he was warning this all
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the time. Do not go away from the
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simplicity of the gospel. You turn to the weak and
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beggarly elements of this world, and you will be found yourself
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again to be a Sinner. You will not escape the judgment
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of God. There is only one escape, and it
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is in Christ. That's right.
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That is good. I had to think of a verse when
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you were talking, Dan says. For when they speak great
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swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lust of the
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flesh. And that's what I'm thinking as
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you're talking. Those things that, that that are
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enticing and that would soon beguile us are always, they are,
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they are appealing to the senses every time, you know, Hey, that
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would make me look good to my brothers.
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Hey, that order is neat. Hey, this, but it's not Christ.
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It's good, but it's not Christ. Sometimes when you hear to the
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flesh that you think that they're that they're giving
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themselves then over to sexual immorality.
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No, they're giving themselves to external things that make
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themselves feel good about themselves.
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Yeah, it's not always bad things that draw us away from the right
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thing. It wouldn't be enticing if that
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was the case. Absolutely not.
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The devil doesn't come with a big red pitchfork and a set of
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horns. He comes with these small
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untruths and that is the battle that we and Paul are against.
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No, it's not. So.
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This is the truth. This is the truth, Andrew.
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I mean, he's been doing that since we started in Colossians
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and before that's his ministry is calling out these Judaizers.
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That's what he specializes on, I think.
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And I really you talk about it a lot and it's and it's for good
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reason, I think. So anyway, Andrew, go ahead with
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anything else that you have on. That I'm so adamant about this,
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but all Paul's a pistol. Deal with it, every one of them.
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All his letters in somewhere or another, he deals with
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circumcision or food or all, all of them and money.
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And like you guys were saying, Satan didn't lie much when he
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deceived Eve, when he beguiled her, everything was pretty much
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true. Her eyes were open, she knew
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good from evil. She didn't surely die.
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She died, but it wasn't like physically instantly, but what
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did it do? She got a Satan got her to focus
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on herself, to look at her benefit.
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What will this? How will this benefit me?
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He got into her head psychologically and that's where
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deception and Tyson Tyson stuff height works.
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I guarantee if you start applying some glorious strict
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religion, religiously kept the Sabbath, you're going to feel
40:28
better. You will.
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I think Christians should rest a lot.
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It's great you will feel better, but what will make you feel 10
40:37
times better since you think you're pleasing God by doing it.
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If you think that God is smiling as he sees you resting.
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If you think that somehow you you're doing the work of God by
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resting, or you add it somehow into the ministry, you preach
40:55
it, you start teaching it, that's where God has a real
40:59
problem with it. You elevate yourself above
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others. Yeah, and it's the same
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enticement of the prosperity gospel, which is a bunch of
41:08
works. You do this and God will do
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this. You give this much money, God
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will give you this much money. Why do people believe the
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prosperity gospel? Because it promises them
41:19
something in the physical. We are enticed by religion and
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things that somehow will promise us physical, realistic,
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something we feel, taste and smile.
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Something that speaks to that. If I can give you a method to
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how to stop sinning outside of Jesus Christ, you will go for
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it. If you're dealing with
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pornography and I could give you a pill to take that destroys
41:46
your pornography addiction, I guarantee you would swallow it
41:51
because it promises you a solution.
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Doesn't matter if it's not Jesus Christ.
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If I can come up with a program an A, a meeting or a drug or
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anything that delivers you and I come and tell you, hey, I tried
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this and it works. You would try it.
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Most people would. That's how enticing them works
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like and this is what Paul's telling us.
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Look, don't be enticed. That's why he can't stop talking
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about the finished work of Christ.
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And here he says, does that say let any man spoil you with
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enticing words? And then you would think he'd
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tell us what the enticing words are.
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No, it's like he'd stops and go, oh, wait a minute, I'm not
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telling you done telling you yet about the finished work of
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Christ. Let me go back to that and then
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later I'll tell you he. Does.
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Yeah, I thought about that. This, this is so fitting.
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I I read a little bit for when they speak, this is in second
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Peter, chapter 2, verse 18. For when they speak, great
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swelling birds of vanity. And just listen to what he's
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saying there. They allure you through the lust
42:50
of the flesh, the through much wantonness.
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Those that were clean escape from them who live in error.
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While they promised them liberty, They themselves are the
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servants of corruption. See, this is where the whole
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problem lies. And it says four of whom a man
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is overcome of the same, is he brought into bondage.
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Or if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world
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through the knowledge of Lord back to knowledge of the Lord
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and our Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein
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and overcome. And the latter end is worse with
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them than from the beginning. Yeah, I just, that's exactly
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what we're dealing with this. This is talking in second Peter
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2 about false prophets, you know, and it's, I just think
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that's relevant to what we're talking about, isn't?
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It thanks Leon. That's I mean you just read
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scripture. That was exactly what I was
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trying to say. It's awesome.
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It's so good, man. I'm telling you.
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Yep. Same as that that passage in 2nd
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Corinthians 11, right? That this subtlety that the
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serpent beguiled Eve all the same words even right,
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corrupting the mind from the simplicity that is in Christ.
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And is it in Romans 11 where it talks about how that many false
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prophets are going on, where it almost looks like Paul is
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competing with the false prophets?
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And it says, like, I'm also educated.
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I'm a Jew. I'm this, I'm that I also
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suffer. They talk about how they
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suffered. Well, I've, I've suffered too.
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And then he says how that they are profiting off of them
44:24
somewhere. He talks about how that these
44:26
false prophets are, they're, they're robbing you.
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They're making money off of you and it's like, man, I'm just
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trying to preach to you the gospel.
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Good stuff. All right, next verse for though
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I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying
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and beholding your order and the steadfastness of your faith in
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Christ. And, you know, I don't know that
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there's a lot of suggestion here, but the one thing that
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that gets my attention is that's something that I probably don't
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do as much as I, as I should is recognizing or appreciating, I
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guess is the word this, the steadfastness of the people's
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faith, you know, and enjoying over it and, and letting it, you
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know, also encourage me or whatever, but damn.
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Yeah, I was looking up the word order.
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It's used in a couple ways. The there's like the order of
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priesthood, the order of Melchizedek of Hebrews 5-10.
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But then in in First Corinthians 14, he talks about doing all
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things in decently and in order. And I was trying to think if
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there was some connection between either of those.
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But the fact that the church, the Colossians church was full
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of love and joy in the spirit and there was some kind of order
45:55
in their church, this whole idea of being knit together in love.
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And Colossians, he talks about the the every joint supplying
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and being knit together connected to the head, which is
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Christ, and thereby the body is functioning well.
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And so only way a body can function well is if they're each
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individually connected to the head, and then we can be knit
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together in love towards one another.
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And so Paul was very impressed with and satisfied with the joy
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with the order that was in the Colossian church and the
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steadfastness of your faith in Christ.
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These are the things that churches ought to be encouraged
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and motivated to be like and to do.
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And there ought to be great celebration over a group of
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people that is gathering together in this kind of joy and
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this kind of faith in Christ. Amen.
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It's commendable, in other words.
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Yeah, for sure, Dander. Yeah, I think he's talking about
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being unified in the faith, not being some reaching out,
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speaking different things. We're all speaking the same
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thing. It's an order like us 3 here.
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I would say it's an order like there's not chaos, not one
47:05
saying Oh no, that's this, you know, another thing.
47:08
No, no, no, no, no, no. Like there's no, it's an order.
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Like we are united in the faith and we're steadfast.
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Like we're, we're not going to be shaken.
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We're not going to be moved. And it's an order.
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And it it, I don't know if he's talking to the Liotta scenes or
47:25
who he is upset with, but it's or he's butter them up a little
47:28
bit so he can they'll hear him better when he just gets about
47:31
ready to tell him. Look just what I'm warning you
47:34
about. I think I think all three of us
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have benefited from the warnings tonight as well.
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Oh yeah. So even if we have that order
47:48
that you refer to and even if all of us are joying in Christ
47:52
and are are steadfast in our faith toward him, it does me
47:56
well. It serves me well to to
47:59
recognize that there's warnings not to depart from that
48:02
simplicity, to not not go back from it, right?
48:06
Very much so I need to hear it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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And it's because we, yeah, we tend to get busy and forget some
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of this stuff. All right, Verse 6 as he have
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therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walkie in him,
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rooted and build up in him and established in the faith as he
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have been taught, abounding therein with Thanksgiving.
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You could take just six if you want, but that's once said
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there, I think that's pretty clear.
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Not not maybe a whole lot of discussion there.
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Yeah. Well, this has been one of those
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life verses for me. Maybe it doesn't seem like the
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one the linchpin, but this was one that really opened my mind
48:51
to this idea that I'm not as a, you know, unsaved person.
48:56
I have to stop working and just believe.
48:59
But as a Christian, you got to work hard to be in standing with
49:02
God and to stay in good standing with God.
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You got to keep short accounts. You got to pray hard.
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You got to read the Bible regularly.
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You've got to, got to, got to, but he doesn't say that.
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He, he says to established Christians, to faithful,
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steadfast in Christ Christians. He says, as you receive Christ
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Jesus the Lord, how did you receive him?
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Well, I had nothing to offer God.
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I had no hope apart from him. I turned to him in faith and I,
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I clung to him with all that I had because that's all that I
49:32
had. So he said as you received him,
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that's how I want you to walk in him.
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I had a discussion just this week on Facebook a little bit
49:40
with a, a pretty well known preacher.
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I actually recently interviewed him and he, he was saying that
49:46
sanctification was by works. And I knew what he meant was
49:50
because Paul, Paul says he wants our whole spirit, soul and body
49:54
to be sanctified and that we would walk in sanctification.
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This is the will of God, even your sanctification that you
49:59
would abstain from fleshly lusts, all those kinds of
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things. So he was saying we need to stop
50:04
doing those things. That's clear.
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But these other passages just make it so plain that we are
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sanctified in Christ Jesus. And in exactly the same way that
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I had nothing to offer God for my salvation to begin with, so I
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have nothing to offer God to learn to walk in righteousness,
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or to be steadfast in Christ, or to be faithful to Him, or to
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walk free from sin. I need to as I received him in
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the beginning. That's how I walk in him and so
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many people, they look to the cross and they are saved,
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genuinely saved, but then the cross almost becomes irrelevant.
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It's something they can fall back onto in case they mess up.
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But from there they kind of move on.
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Now can now I need to walk faithful.
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Walking faithful is continuing to walk in the same way that we
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received him in the beginning. I heard preachers when I first
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became a Christian say these are like the exact quotes.
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If you don't spend at least an hour a day reading, you're a
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joke. You're not a serious Christian.
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Another preacher said that you should always read 3 to 6
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chapters of the old and three to six chapters of the new, never
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less, often more. And so obviously it's good to
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pray a lot. Obviously it's good to read the
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Bible a lot. But these people were promoting
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this concept that the way that you walk in Christ Jesus is by
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dedicating yourself to prayer and reading.
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Should. We dedicate ourselves to prayer
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and reading. Yes, of course, but you don't
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get close to God or stay close to God through your prayer and
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reading. Those are the fruit also.
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Those are things that we do because we're close to Him.
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Those are things we do because we have received Him.
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We're walking in in the same way, by grace through faith.
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I am saved eternally by grace through faith, and I am saved in
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the here and now by grace through faith in the cross of
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the Lord Jesus, just as I am without the one plea.
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But that thy blood was shed for me is the same plea today as it
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was on the day of revival when I first got saved, right?
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Man, I never get tired of that gospel.
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That is such a good story. Wowie, Andrew.
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Yeah, pretty much. Then pretty much covered it
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really well, like Amen. I didn't think of the guy that
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had his eyes opened up and everybody is like, hey, who was
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this like, I don't know. All I know is I was blind.
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Now I see and I think that's how we kind of need to look at it.
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Like that's that is the gospel is I, I know one thing that at
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one point I was responsible for my actions.
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I was responsible for my sin. I was guilty, I was condemned
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and I had no peace. And now I have peace and I know
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that someone else took my spot, took my place, and I don't
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deserve it. All I can do is say thank you
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and worship the name of Jesus Christ.
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He's my God, he's my savior, he's my Redeemer, and he's
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always going to be there. I in order for me to stay there,
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like Dan was saying, it's I stay there.
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That's it. I stay where I was when I got
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saved. And that is I found out that
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Jesus actually took my place. Now I'm no longer trying to beat
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the place because he took my place.
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So naturally you just stop working and believe because you
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know it's not by works. And now the fruit of a believer
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is usually far greater than those that are believing works.
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It's just this God is good like that.
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Yeah, he's so good, So good. So walk in and that that was
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that was really good. I can't, I can't believe what
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some of you guys pull out of a ten word verse that's good.
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Rooted and build up in him and established in the faith as he
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have been taught, abounding therein with Thanksgiving.
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It seems to me like Thanksgiving is a major part of remembering
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and it is. It is for it is for me.
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I know that when I when I think of the how thankful I am for
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what he did, it always causes me to rejoice and glorify and
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praise him. It does.
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It really does anymore because. These promises, these promises
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are much better than the promise that a lot of preachers are
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saying. Like if you give 100 bucks, God
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will give you 1000, but then you give the 100 bucks, then you're
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out 100 bucks. Yeah, like, and you're still out
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100 bucks and 1000 never showed up.
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That is a good way to kind of explain or an analogy of the
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difference between someone that is under the law, under grace,
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we have a promise of someone else doing the work, taking my
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place and making me right with God.
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If it depended on God giving me a $1000, if I believe, if I give
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him 100 and then I don't get the $1000, then I would be, my faith
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would waver. I wouldn't be established, I
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wouldn't be steadfast. It would give me reason.
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It would give me 'cause to doubt.
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It would give me justification to think this is this is not
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working. But Jesus Christ took my place
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and he did it and I can believe it.
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I don't need to have any promise fulfilled in my life to prove
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for me to not be fully assured and rest in the fact that Jesus
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Christ took my place. That's.
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Right. And as far as sinning that
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people seem to be so concerned about, like in Paul where it's
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like, so we continue and sin that grace may abound.
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God forbid, you know, you don't want to sin.
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Jesus also brought that victory. The only reason we sin is
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because we don't believe that Jesus Christ in him, which are
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all the riches and the power and the glory and him are hit all
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the treasures of wisdom and knowledge, walk in him therein
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therein which is in Christ in that, walk in that.
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And it's a faith. If you believe that you're free
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from sin, you'll walk like it. Amen.
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Damn. Yeah, this, this is all still
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part of that warning not to allow anyone to beguile you with
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enticing words, rather be rooted in him.
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So I, I like to, to encourage people to the King James Bible
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in particular. And I maybe it's because I read
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the King James and that's why I like it so much.
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But it gives you words that develop pictures in your mind
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and it helps people who are pretty simplistic and they're
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not super sophisticated, but you can picture a word.
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He says we should continue in him.
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We were planted in him when we began.
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Now he says rooted. So imagine being rooted deeply
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like the roots of your life going deep down how, how deep or
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what do they go into? Rooted in him and he says built
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up in him and established in the faith as you have been taught,
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abounding during with Thanksgiving.
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Like those are all very word pictures that you get in your
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mind. And it should you, you get to
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dig into the idea of being saved apart from your works.
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That's what he wants you to do. Yeah.
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I don't know. I understand salvation by grace
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through faith. No, no, no, don't.
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Don't understand it. Then move on.
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Be rooted in that concept. Like can consider it, dwell on
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it, revel in it, rejoice in it. Be joying in, in, in that truth,
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be rooted in that and then be built up in that same truth you
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know, from the roots of being loved and accepted by God by
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grace. Be built up in that and then be
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established in it, you know, be firmed up in it.
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Never stop being established in the, the beautiful truths that
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God has saved you apart from your own works.
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You know, picture a tree rooted in the grace of God being built
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up from the foundation and then being secured in the steadied
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more and more through time, never to be moved from that
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truth that that is the whole of the Christian life.
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Of course, it gets deeper. It gets it touches all the
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different areas of your life. And we'll talk about that, about
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how it relates to your relationships and everything and
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in your ability to walk free from different things.
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But where our minds should go, where we should set our
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affection, he's going to say, is on things above where Christ is
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seated at the right hand of God. Yeah, Amen.
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Yeah, that's good. That's good.
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I just had to think of my wife posted on Facebook today and
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right we we had been talking about this, she said God has
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been so kind to us. He has drawn us, He has kept us.
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He continues to guide us with his Holy Spirit and words can't
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describe the comfort that that gives us.
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And that is that's right. I agree with that that comment
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100%. We have never had reason to
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doubt God. We had never had reason to think
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that he would not accept us as a beloved, you know, and it's it's
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been so good. So yeah, to be, to be rooted,
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get them roots way down there in the grace of God and let from it
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spring truth and and boldness and the ability to walk above
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them. You know, all the good stuff
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comes right out of the soil. The soil that the tree is
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planted in determines how it's going to grow.
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And so, yeah, we got the good stuff right, keeping that grace
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and whatever. And what a lot of people will
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say is, well, well, since I started doing this, these are
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the benefits. 123 or my relationship with God is so much
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clearer or so much closer, or I just my hope is better or
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whatever. All those things can be false.
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You know, there's very much a false hope.
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I remember when I was guilty and convicted like crazy for using
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the chainsaw. It literally I was guilty.
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I was completely convicted. And I confessed it to the the
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priests, the Amish priests, and they confessed in front of the
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whole church and I mourn. And after that I felt better.
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I felt a lot better. But the whole thing was a sham.
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I was deceived. I was beguiled.
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Yeah, All right, I'm going to quit.
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There were a couple of minutes past.
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Remember to what he said as you received Christ, walk in him,
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Jerry. That's right.
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Be rooted in, grow and live in it.
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Yeah. And if our roots, if our roots
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are in there, we are going to grow by it.
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That that's a natural result of a seed being put into fertile
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ground is that it grows, goes. So that's great.
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All right. Thank you for your time,
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brothers. Appreciate it.
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Thanks, guys for listening in. Always appreciate you and we'll
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be back here same time, same place.
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Thank you guys, God bless. Have a good week.
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We'll see you next Monday night.