Latest / Wired To Hunt Podcast / Ep. 745: Foundations - Deer Hunting, IMHO. . .
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
- 0:05Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,
- 0:09Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.
- 0:14Speaker 1: First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host
- 0:19Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast,
- 0:23Speaker 2: which is brought to you by first Light. I'm your host,
- 0:24Speaker 2: Tony Peterson, and today's episode it's going to be a
- 0:27Speaker 2: fun one, well at least for me, because I'm going
- 0:30Speaker 2: to talk about some of the things i feel like
- 0:31Speaker 2: I've really learned in over three decades being obsessed with
- 0:34Speaker 2: deer hunting. It's not very often I watch regular old TV.
- 0:44Speaker 2: With the amount of streaming services out there and the
- 0:46Speaker 2: sheer availability of on demand content, it's not all that
- 0:49Speaker 2: common for a lot of people to just flip through
- 0:51Speaker 2: the channels. If you do, you'll notice that a lot
- 0:54Speaker 2: of stations run the same show on repeat for hours
- 0:57Speaker 2: at a time, and in between a major redicut Uelesusness Binge.
- 1:01Speaker 2: You might also notice a bunch of commercials for products
- 1:03Speaker 2: and services that are thinly veiled frauds. Think class action lawsuits,
- 1:09Speaker 2: limited time only amazing products that will change your life,
- 1:12Speaker 2: and well a hell of a lot of pharmaceuticals that
- 1:15Speaker 2: you might make you skinny, but will probably also give
- 1:18Speaker 2: you explosive diarrhea, make you far sighted at night and
- 1:21Speaker 2: nearsighted in the day, and cause swelling rashes and open
- 1:24Speaker 2: festering wounds on your undercarriage. Anyway, I recently watched some
- 1:29Speaker 2: old school TV, subjected myself to those commercials, and voila.
- 1:34Speaker 2: This podcast was born kind of mostly out of a
- 1:37Speaker 2: little nostalgia. To be honest, it doesn't really matter, enjoy.
- 1:47Speaker 2: One thing that has really taken hold recently amongst us
- 1:50Speaker 2: silly Americans is this whole generational divide thing. Millennials in
- 1:55Speaker 2: particular seem to have a serious thing against the baby
- 1:58Speaker 2: boomer generation and to some extent Gen xers gen Z
- 2:02Speaker 2: is out there getting into the workforce and they're starting
- 2:04Speaker 2: to figure some stuff out, and other generations they're starting
- 2:07Speaker 2: to figure some stuff out about them. What's interesting is
- 2:10Speaker 2: that the complaints from younger generations about the older generations
- 2:14Speaker 2: have been largely the same since Socrates was robed up
- 2:17Speaker 2: in the town square talking philosophy on a Sunday afternoon
- 2:20Speaker 2: in Athens, right now, it seems like the easy target
- 2:25Speaker 2: is the boomer generation, you know, because they're retiring, and
- 2:28Speaker 2: I guess to a lot of young folks appear to
- 2:30Speaker 2: have had it easy. This is most commonly framed in
- 2:34Speaker 2: some way about money, and you'll see memes and all
- 2:37Speaker 2: those silly TikTokers out there talking about how it only
- 2:40Speaker 2: took a boomer thirteen hours on a minimum wage salary
- 2:43Speaker 2: to buy a brand new house, raise a family, put
- 2:45Speaker 2: six kids through college, and retire at forty eight, while
- 2:49Speaker 2: nowadays they need to work two hundred and ninety six
- 2:51Speaker 2: thousand hours at middle wage to rent a spare closet
- 2:54Speaker 2: from a slimy landlord who is definitely going to raise
- 2:56Speaker 2: their rent every month, and who is the epitome of
- 2:59Speaker 2: corporate greed. They'll gloss over that it mostly wasn't the
- 3:04Speaker 2: people born into the system that made the rules, or
- 3:07Speaker 2: the fact that for as hard as they think they
- 3:10Speaker 2: have it, it's very unlikely they'll get drafted into a
- 3:13Speaker 2: deeply unpopular war to go spend some time in the
- 3:16Speaker 2: jungle fighting people who not only had a serious home
- 3:19Speaker 2: field tactical advantage, but also the emotional advantage of fighting
- 3:23Speaker 2: for their home Land. My dad spent a year and
- 3:26Speaker 2: a half over there, and it didn't sound like it
- 3:27Speaker 2: was a whole lot of fun or that things were
- 3:29Speaker 2: super easy for him. You could gloss over the reality
- 3:33Speaker 2: of post World War two America and a long fight
- 3:36Speaker 2: for civil rights. You know, those poor kids shot up
- 3:38Speaker 2: at Kent State by their own government, and a whole
- 3:40Speaker 2: lot of things that wouldn't be all that fun to
- 3:43Speaker 2: live through today. And you know, the other end of
- 3:46Speaker 2: the spectrum isn't without merit and their complaints. The young
- 3:49Speaker 2: kids today do face a system that is set up
- 3:52Speaker 2: to extract their blood, sweat and tears and whatever money
- 3:55Speaker 2: they can earn and transfer it to somebody else. They
- 3:58Speaker 2: were born into a nerved world to some extent, and
- 4:01Speaker 2: that was a lie. Everyone gets a trophy, but also
- 4:05Speaker 2: everyone gets an adult world that doesn't give a shit
- 4:07Speaker 2: about their feelings. Life is hard for all generations, and
- 4:11Speaker 2: it's hard for almost all people. You younger folks listening
- 4:15Speaker 2: to that might not believe it, but you'll get there eventually.
- 4:18Speaker 2: That's one of the things that I've learned as an
- 4:20Speaker 2: almost millennial but technically a gen xer by about four months.
- 4:24Speaker 2: As I get older and I stare down the barrel
- 4:26Speaker 2: on my forty fourth birthday. I think about this stuff
- 4:28Speaker 2: a lot. It's fun to identify with a specific generation.
- 4:32Speaker 2: You know, be a part of the tribe if you will.
- 4:35Speaker 2: We are as humans pretty driven to be around like
- 4:38Speaker 2: minded people, and this extends into our world as deer hunters.
- 4:42Speaker 2: But one thing you learn about being in the broad
- 4:44Speaker 2: tribe of deer hunting and then a smaller tribe of
- 4:46Speaker 2: bow hunting, and then the smaller tribe of public land
- 4:49Speaker 2: bow hunting is that we are all playing a weird game.
- 4:52Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter because our journey is just ours,
- 4:56Speaker 2: whether you collectively suffer with a bunch of folks or
- 4:58Speaker 2: you go the whole quiet desperation way that Threau mentioned.
- 5:03Speaker 2: The journey is yours. The accountability is yours. Your reactions,
- 5:08Speaker 2: it's your effort and I'm a discipline or the lack
- 5:11Speaker 2: of it, the enjoyment level, it's on you in life
- 5:15Speaker 2: and in deer hunting. This is what I want to
- 5:17Speaker 2: start this podcast with because I feel it in my bones.
- 5:21Speaker 2: When it comes to deer hunting, we want to be special.
- 5:24Speaker 2: We want to fit into the cool kids club, and
- 5:27Speaker 2: you know who is really in that club? Mostly just
- 5:30Speaker 2: people who kill big bucks quite often. That's kind of it.
- 5:35Speaker 2: Now you can get bonus points for doing it all
- 5:37Speaker 2: on public land, or doing it only from the ground
- 5:39Speaker 2: with a long bow or whatever. But the truth is
- 5:42Speaker 2: that all of us just want to be in the
- 5:43Speaker 2: club that kills big Bucks. I can tell you one
- 5:46Speaker 2: thing about this after a lifetime of deer hunting and
- 5:48Speaker 2: quite a few years in the hunting industry. That's dumb
- 5:52Speaker 2: the focus on big Bucks just because they are big.
- 5:55Speaker 2: It's kind of weird that club is full of people
- 5:59Speaker 2: who have all different levels of opportunity and finances and
- 6:03Speaker 2: believe this or not. Skill keeping praise on anyone for
- 6:07Speaker 2: killing big Bucks without acknowledging how they do it is
- 6:10Speaker 2: just wild to me. And it kind of confirms how
- 6:12Speaker 2: little a lot of people know about big Bucks, because
- 6:15Speaker 2: here's the thing. A lot of big deer are killed
- 6:18Speaker 2: in ways that aren't challenging at all. If there is
- 6:20Speaker 2: one thing that I believe about deer hunting, it's that
- 6:23Speaker 2: this is so damaging to so many people because for
- 6:27Speaker 2: most folks it's a nearly insurmountable challenge. It can be
- 6:32Speaker 2: that variable, and I'm here to tell you it is
- 6:35Speaker 2: that variable. You probably can't actually get admitted into the
- 6:39Speaker 2: true big buck club because you'll never be able to
- 6:42Speaker 2: afford it, kind of like a yacht club or I
- 6:45Speaker 2: don't know, golfing at some of the best courses. Maybe
- 6:48Speaker 2: you guys know how little I know about golf. I
- 6:51Speaker 2: think it's better to hunt your own hunt, so to speak,
- 6:54Speaker 2: find your own reasons to be out there that go
- 6:56Speaker 2: way beyond just inches of antler. I know that most
- 7:00Speaker 2: folks aren't pure trophy hunters, but I also know there's
- 7:04Speaker 2: a lot of bullshit mixed into the messaging of trophy hunting.
- 7:07Speaker 2: And you know how you can tell just look for
- 7:10Speaker 2: the weasel words. They exist in all facets of life,
- 7:13Speaker 2: and especially with hot button political issues, where the terminology
- 7:17Speaker 2: is always changing but the issues never get fixed. It's
- 7:21Speaker 2: also obvious in hunting we don't kill deer. We harvest them. Well,
- 7:25Speaker 2: harvest actually is a technically correct word for it, if
- 7:28Speaker 2: you want to use it. We all know why we
- 7:30Speaker 2: say it. We don't trophy hunt anymore. We target much surbucks.
- 7:35Speaker 2: We wait until the deer are prime age, and then
- 7:37Speaker 2: we selectively try to remove them because they've done their
- 7:40Speaker 2: breeding and they've lived their good life and that sounds great.
- 7:44Speaker 2: You know, until that target buck, the mature one you've
- 7:47Speaker 2: waited for, I don't know, five or six years on,
- 7:50Speaker 2: walks in and he's busted both of his main beams off.
- 7:53Speaker 2: How many folks are shooting that deer? Then he's still mature.
- 7:58Speaker 2: He still has all of that challenge old into his existence.
- 8:01Speaker 2: So the antler shouldn't matter, right right? Sure, yeah, totally,
- 8:06Speaker 2: never mind. It's a hell of a lot harder to
- 8:08Speaker 2: age year on the hoof than people think, or that
- 8:10Speaker 2: a real mature deer, say, I don't know, an eight
- 8:12Speaker 2: and a half year old instead of a five and
- 8:14Speaker 2: a half year old would be a hell of a
- 8:16Speaker 2: lot more of a challenge. But no one is letting
- 8:19Speaker 2: their bucks start to get on the old downswing of
- 8:21Speaker 2: their antlers and killing them is gnarly one hundred inches
- 8:23Speaker 2: with huge bellies and gray faces. Nope, it just so
- 8:27Speaker 2: happens that our definition of mature coincides nicely with the
- 8:30Speaker 2: biggest racks bucks are ever going to grow and listen.
- 8:34Speaker 2: If that's your jam and you love it, go for it.
- 8:37Speaker 2: I mean that. But if you're looking to get into
- 8:40Speaker 2: that club and feel like the guy working the door
- 8:42Speaker 2: just isn't going to open the velvet rope for you.
- 8:44Speaker 2: It might be time to look for something different out
- 8:46Speaker 2: of your hunting. That's just one of the things I
- 8:50Speaker 2: truly believe after a long life of obsessing over deer.
- 8:54Speaker 2: Another is that if you want to truly enjoy hunting,
- 8:57Speaker 2: figure everything you can out about venison. Now. This will
- 9:02Speaker 2: sound weird coming from a meat eater guy, but I
- 9:04Speaker 2: don't mean find the most obscure, show offish recipes for
- 9:08Speaker 2: your venicon that no one in their right mind would
- 9:10Speaker 2: actually make besides someone who is looking for Instagram likes
- 9:13Speaker 2: on their stand in stur videos. I mean the process,
- 9:17Speaker 2: the appreciation of venison. This is anecdotal, I know this,
- 9:32Speaker 2: but one of the things that has happened to me
- 9:33Speaker 2: is I have killed lots of deer and mixed in
- 9:35Speaker 2: some big ones, is that I'm more interested in the
- 9:37Speaker 2: meat now than I ever was before. Feeding my family
- 9:41Speaker 2: means more to me than another big rack on the
- 9:44Speaker 2: wall that has taught me something. Focusing on procuring venison
- 9:49Speaker 2: has extended my season, has changed how I feel about hunting.
- 9:53Speaker 2: It's made it more enjoyable, partially just because it makes
- 9:57Speaker 2: me go more Now if that seems weird or like bs.
- 10:01Speaker 2: Let me explain. I like hunting deer, and I like
- 10:05Speaker 2: shooting deer. I like the process of settling my pin
- 10:08Speaker 2: on their side or the crosshairs. I like handing my
- 10:12Speaker 2: daughter's headlamps and heading into the woods at night to
- 10:15Speaker 2: figure out blood trails, whether they created them or I did.
- 10:19Speaker 2: I like the feeling of knowing the freezer is full,
- 10:22Speaker 2: or the feeling of a four hour burger grinding session
- 10:25Speaker 2: knowing that it'll be tacos and spaghetti sauce all year long.
- 10:30Speaker 2: Just that aspect, owning it and trying to appreciate it
- 10:34Speaker 2: has changed how I look at my deer hunting. It
- 10:37Speaker 2: makes me happy to get dough tags or hunt somewhere
- 10:39Speaker 2: for a few days knowing that I'm going to be
- 10:41Speaker 2: hunting hungry, and any deer that walks by and gives
- 10:44Speaker 2: me the right shot will at least draw some consideration
- 10:46Speaker 2: from me. And on that note, another thing that I've
- 10:50Speaker 2: learned kind of relates to me giving different generations at
- 10:54Speaker 2: the beginning of this podcast is a lot of people
- 10:57Speaker 2: want you to believe that deer hunting is easy for them.
- 11:00Speaker 2: This goes for hunting industry folks, and non hunting industry
- 11:04Speaker 2: folks alike. But the truth is, most people don't tell
- 11:08Speaker 2: you how hard it is for them to actually get
- 11:10Speaker 2: it done. They don't tell you their struggles, which far
- 11:14Speaker 2: outweigh the wins. The truth is that hunting is hard
- 11:18Speaker 2: for most folks, and if it's not, they aren't looking
- 11:21Speaker 2: for much of a challenge. Because, believe me on this,
- 11:24Speaker 2: if you think you're really good, you just haven't put
- 11:26Speaker 2: yourself in enough situations to learn that you're not. I
- 11:30Speaker 2: think this is one of the things that our current life,
- 11:32Speaker 2: with our current technology, has really skewed how we see
- 11:36Speaker 2: the world. Take Cam Haignes and David Goggins, for example.
- 11:40Speaker 2: They might be two of the most inspirational people out there,
- 11:43Speaker 2: and you can see how much amazing shit they've done
- 11:46Speaker 2: and continue to do with their lives because they plaster
- 11:49Speaker 2: it all over it's everywhere. They will also tell anyone
- 11:52Speaker 2: who listens about their struggles. But I promise you that
- 11:56Speaker 2: doesn't translate as well as some of their successes at
- 12:00Speaker 2: good money that they both experience serious motivational issues probably
- 12:05Speaker 2: every day of their lives. They just found the discipline
- 12:07Speaker 2: to tamp that shit down and power through. But you know.
- 12:10Speaker 2: The struggle is there because it is part of the
- 12:12Speaker 2: human experience, and we always want to project an image
- 12:16Speaker 2: of kicking ass and taking name tags. But most of
- 12:19Speaker 2: us are just kicking our own asses and well not
- 12:22Speaker 2: taking names. I guess this is true for life and
- 12:25Speaker 2: true for hunting, but we don't need to pollute hunting
- 12:28Speaker 2: with too much stuff that really pisses us off. I
- 12:31Speaker 2: see this with a lot of Western hunters who focus
- 12:33Speaker 2: on the non residents ruining their hunting. I see it
- 12:36Speaker 2: with a lot of white tail hunters who think the
- 12:38Speaker 2: wolves ate all their deer, or that the neighbor who
- 12:40Speaker 2: has five hundred acres and doesn't let anyone hunt and
- 12:42Speaker 2: always kills giant bucks, you know, and he's the worst
- 12:46Speaker 2: guy in the world. And they just happen to be
- 12:48Speaker 2: this poor, lowly hunter on twenty acres that borders their
- 12:50Speaker 2: property and can barely kill a spike. What I know
- 12:54Speaker 2: about life and deer hunting is you can change and better.
- 12:59Speaker 2: Yet should hunters are notorious for resisting change, and I
- 13:04Speaker 2: suspect that's probably an evolutionary thing. We put up a
- 13:07Speaker 2: lot of guardrails to keep things consistent, because when they aren't,
- 13:12Speaker 2: it's just as likely things will get worse as opposed
- 13:14Speaker 2: to better. But deer hunting doesn't need to mirror general life.
- 13:19Speaker 2: If you're unhappy with your hunting spot, you can find
- 13:22Speaker 2: another one. Don't tell me you can't, because you can. Now.
- 13:25Speaker 2: It might not be super awesome, it might not be free,
- 13:29Speaker 2: it might not be five minutes down the road from
- 13:30Speaker 2: your house, but the options are out there somewhere. Or
- 13:34Speaker 2: if you hate non residents and think they ruin your hunting,
- 13:37Speaker 2: look at it a different way. Imagine having the advantage
- 13:40Speaker 2: of being right there to scout, to hunt, to camp
- 13:43Speaker 2: to whatever. Now imagine someone who lives a thousand miles
- 13:47Speaker 2: away and has less time than you to do all
- 13:49Speaker 2: those things. Don't you think you can out hunt that
- 13:52Speaker 2: person nine out of ten times? And if you can't,
- 13:56Speaker 2: why not. There's no way that person can and scout
- 14:00Speaker 2: and find every little seat or hidden water hole, every
- 14:03Speaker 2: bench that the bulls or the bucks might bet on.
- 14:06Speaker 2: There's no way that person can compete with you. Why
- 14:09Speaker 2: not get ahead of him and all of his buddies
- 14:10Speaker 2: and use your advantage. Now, I'm gonna rapid fire a
- 14:14Speaker 2: few more things that I've come to truly believe about
- 14:17Speaker 2: hunting before I wrap this whole thing up and warn
- 14:18Speaker 2: my boss about the hate mail that is probably going
- 14:20Speaker 2: to roll in over it. I firmly believe that most
- 14:23Speaker 2: hunters aren't patient enough when it comes to blood trailing,
- 14:27Speaker 2: not only how long they give an uncertain hit, but
- 14:30Speaker 2: how long they try to figure it out and grid
- 14:32Speaker 2: search and give it their best effort. Blood trailing is
- 14:35Speaker 2: a skill that you can work on, and it's something
- 14:38Speaker 2: that requires real discipline and patience. It's also something that
- 14:42Speaker 2: you're gonna have to do whether you like it or not.
- 14:46Speaker 2: It's a part of deer hunting that can be really
- 14:48Speaker 2: fun or downright horrible. Try to make everyone lean toward
- 14:54Speaker 2: the fun category if you can, and you'll enjoy hunting
- 14:56Speaker 2: far more and feel better about yourself along the way.
- 15:01Speaker 2: I also think that we should help each other get better.
- 15:04Speaker 2: I know this sounds woo woo, but I believe it.
- 15:07Speaker 2: If you're decent at this stuff, help someone who is new.
- 15:11Speaker 2: If you're new, try to find someone who seems to
- 15:13Speaker 2: know what they are doing and work with them. I
- 15:17Speaker 2: know this isn't that easy, and a lot of stuff
- 15:19Speaker 2: comes into play here, but I can tell you this
- 15:21Speaker 2: every time I've tried to help someone get better at hunting.
- 15:23Speaker 2: Not only has it made me feel better, it's made
- 15:27Speaker 2: me a better hunter. Sure comes with real challenges, and
- 15:30Speaker 2: there are plenty of people out there who will take
- 15:32Speaker 2: advantage of you, but sometimes you just get to pass
- 15:35Speaker 2: along a gift that is worth a hell of a lot. Now,
- 15:38Speaker 2: if you're worried about taking someone under your wing who
- 15:40Speaker 2: might shoot a buck that you might want to shoot,
- 15:42Speaker 2: ask yourself why that matters at all? Does it? Really?
- 15:46Speaker 2: The answer is up to you, but at least consider
- 15:49Speaker 2: it before making that decision. Now, another thing that I
- 15:52Speaker 2: truly believe is this, If you want to get more
- 15:55Speaker 2: out of hunting, try to learn to love the animals.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Not just value them for what they can become, but
- 16:02Speaker 2: love them for what they are. The sheer existence of
- 16:06Speaker 2: white tails or elk, or bears or antelope or whatever
- 16:09Speaker 2: just makes our lives better. Kind of like dogs for
- 16:13Speaker 2: most of us. And while we love our dogs, we
- 16:15Speaker 2: often look at animals we hunt sort of in an
- 16:18Speaker 2: abstract way. They are this goal, this thing we want
- 16:23Speaker 2: to possess. But they are also animals with a connection
- 16:27Speaker 2: to their world and a will to survive. They're freaking
- 16:30Speaker 2: cool and if you learn to love them, you'll want
- 16:33Speaker 2: to be around them more, not just while you're on
- 16:36Speaker 2: stand with a weapon in your hand, but also all
- 16:39Speaker 2: that extra time in the off season. Maybe take the
- 16:43Speaker 2: kids for a drive in the summer just to look
- 16:44Speaker 2: at them. When you start to think about deer in
- 16:47Speaker 2: that way, you start to seek out reasons to try
- 16:50Speaker 2: to be around them. I think that's something that we
- 16:53Speaker 2: miss in a lot of our hunting advice because it's
- 16:55Speaker 2: all about scouting and strategizing to kill. The one way
- 17:00Speaker 2: to get better at this stuff and just like it
- 17:02Speaker 2: more is to try to appreciate dear for the many
- 17:05Speaker 2: things they represent to us besides a grip and grin photo. Now, lastly,
- 17:11Speaker 2: as old gen X or latch key kid who got
- 17:14Speaker 2: to see the world before the Internet in the world after.
- 17:16Speaker 2: I'll say this, there are very very few reasons to
- 17:21Speaker 2: be a prick to someone. This goes for standing in
- 17:24Speaker 2: line at the grocery store or online, and your favorite
- 17:28Speaker 2: hunting forum may be parked at the parking area of
- 17:31Speaker 2: the WMA. If you're going to be nasty to someone,
- 17:35Speaker 2: please make sure you have a hell of a good reason.
- 17:38Speaker 2: I don't think disagreeing over hunting strategies is one of them.
- 17:41Speaker 2: I think that's dumb. Getting jealous over a buck someone
- 17:44Speaker 2: else killed. It's dumb shitting on someone for shooting a dink. Dumb.
- 17:49Speaker 2: It's okay to be passionate about this stuff. You should be,
- 17:52Speaker 2: But it's also good to remember that everyone is on
- 17:54Speaker 2: their own journey and hunting, and in life, they have
- 17:57Speaker 2: their own struggles and their own anxiety us, the secret
- 18:01Speaker 2: self loathing, the addictions, the you name. Its. Making them
- 18:04Speaker 2: feel worse over hunting is dumb, just as dumb as
- 18:08Speaker 2: trying to make yourself feel wildly superior over this stuff
- 18:11Speaker 2: is dumb. Well, I could probably do this for a
- 18:15Speaker 2: lot longer than I'm going to, but I'm not gonna
- 18:18Speaker 2: subject you to that. Instead, I'm gonna wrap this sucker
- 18:22Speaker 2: up and move on to next week, when I'm gonna
- 18:24Speaker 2: talk about individual deer and how we don't really factor
- 18:28Speaker 2: this into our hunting decisions, but we definitely should. That's
- 18:34Speaker 2: it for this week, my friends. I'm Tony Peterson. This
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