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Disney's Facial Recognition | Lifetime Smoking Ban · The Bill Handel Show

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Speaker 1: Your listen sings Can't Fly AM six forty the Bill
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Speaker 1: Handles show on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
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Speaker 2: Okay, a story about Disneyland.
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Speaker 1: Yes, this is for Neil and this is for Amy,
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Speaker 1: and it's for me because I went on Monday and
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Speaker 1: actually had a great time.
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Speaker 2: All Right.
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Speaker 1: So Disneyland visitors who don't want to provide a face
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Speaker 1: print to access Main Street a little bit nervous about
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Speaker 1: entrusting Disney to keep their biometric data safe from cyber criminals,
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Speaker 1: well they can opt out of these security measures used
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Speaker 1: by Disneyland. They rolled out facial recognition software combined with
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Speaker 1: biometric technology this week at the front entrances of both.
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Speaker 2: Parks, following limited tests in recent months.
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Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you about unintended consequences here
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Speaker 1: because that always happens, and that is, you can say
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Speaker 1: no to biometric recognition, got it, biometric technology? And so
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Speaker 1: you go into the park and they have a separate
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Speaker 1: lane for people who are opting out, and Amy, I'm
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Speaker 1: assuming there'll be plenty of people who are not thrilled
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Speaker 1: with their biometric information being used. Photos are taken to
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Speaker 1: compare with, for example, annual passes et cetera.
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Speaker 3: They've bets forever. When you walk into the park, they
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Speaker 3: take your picture, so it's connected to your ticket.
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Speaker 1: Now, this is biometric information, and they save.
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Speaker 3: It because at TSA they say we don't save it.
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Speaker 1: Though yeah, well Disney also says they're not saving it.
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Speaker 1: But here's the unintended consequence, and that is you have
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Speaker 1: lines going into the park and they can be very long,
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Speaker 1: and here's the lane for opting out. If the lane
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Speaker 1: for opting out, If the line for opting out is
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Speaker 1: way shorter, people who normally have no problem with biometric information,
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Speaker 1: I don't they're going to go into the line to
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Speaker 1: opt out. Why because it's shorter. It's the lightning lane
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Speaker 1: of biometric information. And Disney is saying, you don't like it,
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Speaker 1: will bail out. So it does give people choices. The
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Speaker 1: other possibility, and this is something that is not being
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Speaker 1: particularly advertised, is I don't know if you know that
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Speaker 1: your skin has variations in it where biometrically it's like
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Speaker 1: retinal it's like retinal or fingerprints where it's unique to everybody.
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Speaker 1: So there is a way of biometrically accessing and looking
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Speaker 1: at and comparing your skin patterns, which means is one
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Speaker 1: section where you can simply moon the camera and that works.
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Speaker 1: Amy you're looking at it like somehow you don't believe it.
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Speaker 3: Oh no, I believe everything that you say, Bill.
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Speaker 1: Okay, excellent, But it's something where people are genuinely frightened
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Speaker 1: of keeping biometric information.
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Speaker 3: I think they get our biometric information everywhere. They're just
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Speaker 3: they're introducing it in Europe now at the airports every Yeah.
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Speaker 1: No, it is, and which means that technology is going
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Speaker 1: to know more and more about you. And the fear
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Speaker 1: is not the corporations who go ahead and use biometric
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Speaker 1: or take photos or collect biometric information. It's the hackers.
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Speaker 1: It's the bad guys who can get involved. I mean, Disney,
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Speaker 1: of course would be super careful. After thirty days it's gone,
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Speaker 1: I believe that certainly, But what if hackers get involved
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Speaker 1: in the first thirty days in that information. The more
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Speaker 1: the bad guys have about your information, the easier it
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Speaker 1: is to hack into your life to where there is
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Speaker 1: no privacy whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: I believe we're already there.
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Speaker 1: People who talk about privacy, You guys are dreaming if
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Speaker 1: there's privacy in this world that doesn't exist. I like
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Speaker 1: the moon idea, the mooning idea, because on the one hand, it's,
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Speaker 1: you know, a little bit personal to people. On the
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Speaker 1: other hand, maybe it's a little embarrassing to pull down
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Speaker 1: your pants and moon the camera.
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Speaker 2: Boy. I should be involved in security, shouldn't I? You
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Speaker 2: bet you? Okay.
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Speaker 1: I want to switch gears a little bit today, and
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Speaker 1: instead of talking what I was going to talk about,
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Speaker 1: I want to deal with homeowners and facing something called
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Speaker 1: zone zero changes due to fires, because I think that's
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Speaker 1: a little closer to home than what's happening in England
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Speaker 1: or New Zealand. So we're a year after the wildfires
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Speaker 1: in southern California, and what California is looking to do
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Speaker 1: is implement rules that would require residents statewide to make
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Speaker 1: some modifications outside their home. Now, if you listen to
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Speaker 1: Dean Sharp, he gives some good advice about dealing with
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Speaker 1: homes and dealing with fires, regarding vents and embers, etc.
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Speaker 1: And they're already laws on the books dealing with the
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Speaker 1: kind of combustible materials you can have.
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Speaker 2: Well, this one goes a little further.
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Speaker 1: This zone zero new proposed rules refers to the first
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Speaker 1: five feet around your home or structure and in specific
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Speaker 1: areas across the state. Homeowners would be required to remove
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Speaker 1: combust materials outside the home bark, mulch, wood, chips follows
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Speaker 1: some maintenance requirements over plants and trees in this immediate area.
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Speaker 2: Now, previous drafts called.
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Speaker 1: For stricter requirements what would be permitted outside your home,
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Speaker 1: but not to this extent. A version earlier this year
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Speaker 1: didn't allow grass and ornamental or native plants within this
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Speaker 1: zone zero and were considered landscaping materials likely to be
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Speaker 1: ignited by embers. And that is the problem. There's nothing
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Speaker 1: you can do. If a roaring fire comes into your area.
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Speaker 1: The house is going to burn, come hell or high water.
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Speaker 1: But a lot of homes, a lot of structures burned
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Speaker 1: down because of embers. Embers can fly half a mile
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Speaker 1: or a mile away from a fire, and if your
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Speaker 1: home gets in the way of that, especially in the attic.
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Speaker 1: This is where Dean talks about embers coming in because
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Speaker 1: the attic is all wood, there's no stucco up there,
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Speaker 1: it ignites very easily. And so this science based approach
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Speaker 1: is being developed simply to meaningful reduce the risk. Okay,
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Speaker 1: now there's already zone one and two and that's for
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Speaker 1: larger stretches of the area surrounding the home, and these
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Speaker 1: zones one and two are considered defensible spaces. Fuels are
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Speaker 1: removed reduced to provide a buffer between your structure, your home,
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Speaker 1: and the surrounding area, and that's considered vital for protecting
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Speaker 1: homes and communities from the wildfire. And according to the
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Speaker 1: experts and the law, adequate defensible SpaceX as a barrier
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Speaker 1: to slower halt the.
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Speaker 2: Progress of a fire.
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Speaker 1: Now, again, if you have a major fire coming through,
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Speaker 1: you're done. There's nothing you can do about it except
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Speaker 1: get the hell out. But as I said, the number
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Speaker 1: of fires caused by embers is high enough to where
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Speaker 1: if you do something about it, you know it's going
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Speaker 1: to help. And when I bought my house, one of
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Speaker 1: the first things I did is put lovers in my
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Speaker 1: attic space in the roof, especially to fight embers from
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Speaker 1: going in, or just keep embers from going in. So
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Speaker 1: now instead of zone one and two, we go into
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Speaker 1: zone zero, which goes to a further extent because of
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Speaker 1: the embers blowing around. It's just accepting the fact that
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Speaker 1: fires under the ember theory are easily defended against. So
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Speaker 1: under zone zero, we would have to make changes for
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Speaker 1: things like fences and sheds. If you have a wooden
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Speaker 1: gate attached to your home, which heretofore you could have
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Speaker 1: because that's not it are brush or trees, you may
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Speaker 1: have to replace it with a non combustible metal gate
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Speaker 1: or with a reson gate fiberglass gate, which are actually
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Speaker 1: pretty good. Those fences, they look great and their fire,
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Speaker 1: if not proof, certainly fire retardant. I guess they don't
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Speaker 1: burn no matter what, and they don't get old and
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Speaker 1: de cruptbit and crappy at all. So when does zone
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Speaker 1: zero go into effect. Well, new construction is going to
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Speaker 1: be required to comply with this regulation upon its adoption,
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Speaker 1: but existing homes and structures, all of that will be
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Speaker 1: phased in over several years, giving people a chance to
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Speaker 1: deal with it. And that's happened a few times where
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Speaker 1: there was plenty of time to deal with it. For example,
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Speaker 1: when businesses in the city of la had to switch
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Speaker 1: over with elevator panels. I don't know if you remember that,
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Speaker 1: but elevator panels in many cases were too high for
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Speaker 1: people in wheelchairs, and therefore the law said you have
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Speaker 1: to bring down the panel. So people in wheelchair have
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Speaker 1: access to it hideously expensive, took years, and the businesses
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Speaker 1: were given years to do this. I always thought there
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Speaker 1: was an easy answer, which is much cheaper, and that
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Speaker 1: is putting in a stick with a chain attached to
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Speaker 1: the wall, so someone in a wheelchair can just pick
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Speaker 1: up the stick and press the button. But no one
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Speaker 1: listens to me. The same thing happened with roofs. Shake roofs.
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Speaker 1: Wooden roofs are illegal and there you don't find them. Well,
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Speaker 1: it took thirty years because a roof has a thirty
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Speaker 1: year lifetime, and so once that law came into effect,
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Speaker 1: people who had wooden roofs could weigh until they replaced it.
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Speaker 2: Well, that took thirty years.
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Speaker 1: And now if you look at roofs in southern California,
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Speaker 1: it's either tile or concrete or asphalt. You're not going
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Speaker 1: to see wooden shake roofs. They don't exist. And the
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Speaker 1: same thing is going to happen with this. Now there
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Speaker 1: is something new and that new homes that are being
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Speaker 1: built have to have a solar system in place. If
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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken on that, and I think that's the case,
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Speaker 1: if I'm not wrong, Where you have a development or
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Speaker 1: you're building a new house, there has to be a
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Speaker 1: solar system in place, because California, of course is at
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Speaker 1: the forefront of solar and alternative energy, and we theoretically
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Speaker 1: were going to be neutral energy alternative neutral in terms
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Speaker 1: of fossil fuels by twenty thirty five, although that's been
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Speaker 1: blown out of the water because restrictions, any federal restriction
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Speaker 1: has been removed, as you know, because we have an
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Speaker 1: administration that does not like alternative energy and.
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Speaker 2: Likes fossil fuels a bunch.
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, we have a president who
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Speaker 1: says outright and has never brought it back, that climate
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Speaker 1: change is a fraud, that it doesn't exist. It's the
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Speaker 1: biggest fraud that has ever been perpetrated in the history
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Speaker 1: of the world. There is no such thing as climate change.
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Speaker 1: I don't know where you go with that, but in
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Speaker 1: any case, we're going to have zone zero. So if
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Speaker 1: you happen to have a wooden fence, which most people do,
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Speaker 1: and it's close to the house, not going to happen.
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Speaker 2: It's going to have to be replaced.
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Speaker 1: And if you happen to have any kind of a
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Speaker 1: structure too near the house, for example, at my place.
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Speaker 2: I had a wooden structure.
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Speaker 1: Which is now a casita quota casita, and it was
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Speaker 1: as a structure where my outdoor dining area is, if
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Speaker 1: you call it a dining area, and I replaced it.
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Speaker 1: I replaced it with a stucco structure. Why well, because
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Speaker 1: of that exact reason. It was too close to the house.
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Speaker 1: All right, story we're looking at. A new report has
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Speaker 1: just come out and says one in five Americans may
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Speaker 1: be exposed to dangerous nitrate levels in their tap water.
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Speaker 2: So here's the bottom line.
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Speaker 1: You eat hot dogs and drink tap water at the
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Speaker 1: same time, you're going to die there you are, so
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Speaker 1: knock your socks off.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Now, there is a bill that is going through England,
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Speaker 1: actually is passed and King Charles has to sign it,
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Speaker 1: which you will. And it aims to raise a smoke
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Speaker 1: free generation, permanently banning the sale or supply of tobacco
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Speaker 1: and bake products to anyone born in two thousand and
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Speaker 1: nine or after. It applies to people currently seventeen years
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Speaker 1: older younger, and the whole point is to try to
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Speaker 1: keep them from ever picking up the habit in their lifetime.
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Speaker 1: So the lawmakers say that in practice the measure means
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Speaker 1: the age of sale for tobacco products will rise over
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Speaker 1: time as this demographic.
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Speaker 2: Group grows older.
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Speaker 1: And we're looking to a smoke free society, and so
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Speaker 1: the people covered by this law will be part of
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Speaker 1: this is a quote, part of the first smoke free generation,
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Speaker 1: protected from a lifetime of addiction and harm. And this
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Speaker 1: was a quote from west streeting the Health the Secretary.
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Speaker 1: Prevention is better than cure, what he said. So it
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Speaker 1: includes new licensing, new registration requirements for retailers, retailers, product
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Speaker 1: information and mandates, and advertising and promotion controls way fer
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Speaker 1: than they are now, more restrictions on smoking and vaping
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Speaker 1: in public pace places. And what it does is at
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Speaker 1: hopes to block the use of tobacco products because tobacco
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Speaker 1: products are the main underlying drivers.
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Speaker 2: Of ill health. We know that. What's the first thing
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Speaker 2: that's asked?
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Speaker 1: And I just had my physical a few maybe a
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Speaker 1: week ago, and I was asked, do you smoke? And
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Speaker 1: I said only after sex and that's because of friction. No,
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Speaker 1: that's not true at all. But smoking is the main cause.
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Speaker 1: You look at lung cancer, you look at heart disease,
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Speaker 1: you look at cholesterol and stroke, big, big risks with
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Speaker 1: additional smoking. And the bill was first proposed in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four and it's a general rational smoking ban and
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Speaker 1: it's gained traction around the world. Last year, the same
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Speaker 1: law was passed in the Mall Dives or the Maldives.
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Speaker 1: And New Zealand enacted the world's first generational smoking ban
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, lauded by health public officials, criticized
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Speaker 1: by retailers and the tobacco industry, and a new government
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Speaker 1: came in and.
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Speaker 2: The law was abolished.
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Speaker 1: Why because the tobacco industry has enormous power all over
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Speaker 1: the world, I might add, And so the New Zealand
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Speaker 1: legislation was killed as a result of the influence of
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Speaker 1: the tobacco industry, even in New Zealand, I mean all
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Speaker 1: over the world.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy.
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Speaker 1: We probably have less smoking in the United States than
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Speaker 1: many parts of the world, and this may signal some
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Speaker 1: real struggles ahead for this effort. So in twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 1: Britain's Office for Nash Statistics reported that five point three
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Speaker 1: million people over eighteen, age eighteen or over were smokers,
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Speaker 1: and that's ten percent of all adults in the UK
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Speaker 1: and According to the Department of Health and Social Care,
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Speaker 1: which is their HHS, smoking is responsible for sixty four
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Speaker 1: thousand deaths every year. It's the leading preventable cause of
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Speaker 1: death and disability and ill health. So the bottom line
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Speaker 1: is if you stop people from smoking, if you make
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Speaker 1: it extraordinarily difficult for anybody seventeen or younger to smoke,
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Speaker 1: with legislation, with retailers that are stopped from selling advertising smoking,
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Speaker 1: it's not like smoking here in this country where everybody smoked.
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Speaker 2: Everybody. If you remember when everybody.
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Speaker 1: Smoked, what was the line, do you mind if I smoke?
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Speaker 1: And who said no to that? Who ever said no, well,
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Speaker 1: of course you can smoke. And then it morphed into
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Speaker 1: do you mind if I smoke? Well, do you mind
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Speaker 1: if I fart? And that turned out to be.
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Speaker 2: Helpful. But here you have the.
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Speaker 1: Tobacco industry which is insanely powerful. You have chambers of
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Speaker 1: commerce which very powerful, you have retailers which are very powerful.
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Speaker 2: And it's a fight. And it's a fight.
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Speaker 1: Now, was there a successful fight in terms of labeling
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Speaker 1: cigarette packages?
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Speaker 2: You bet? And if you remember what the it was crazy.
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Speaker 1: What the tobacco industry was able to do is convince
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Speaker 1: Americans that tobacco smoke, that smoking is healthy for you,
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Speaker 1: not just it does no harm. But the pitch was
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Speaker 1: it is healthy for you, and the ads had actors
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Speaker 1: put in lab coats and stethoscopes around their neck, their
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Speaker 1: necks saying smoking what it does is relieve stress.
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Speaker 2: It makes you feel better, you're not as not.
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Speaker 1: As itchy, itchy, No, I don't think it was itchy,
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Speaker 1: but certainly not in a position where you got sick quicker.
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Speaker 1: It actually stopped you from getting sick, and so we
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Speaker 1: think that went out the window. Oh, by the way,
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Speaker 1: that's when the tobacco industry knew that smoking causes cancer.
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Speaker 1: And so at this point, I think what the industry
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Speaker 1: is doing. No one is arguing that it is healthy
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Speaker 1: for you, We're unhealthy. I think the argument now with
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Speaker 1: the tobacco industry is it's simply big business, and you
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Speaker 1: have to have a government that's pro business because this
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Speaker 1: is a capitalistic system. And you also are argue, but
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Speaker 1: the tobacco industry is arguing that all of those studies
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Speaker 1: are somehow either fraudulent or if not fraudulent, they're overstated,
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Speaker 1: that the stats just don't make a lot of sense okay,
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Speaker 1: And I want to end with an article in the
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Speaker 1: Atlantic and it is described the headline as a barbaric
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Speaker 1: problem in American hospitals is only getting bigger. And what
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Speaker 1: is the writer talking about, Well, she's talking about what
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Speaker 1: Jim Kinney says.
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Speaker 2: And if you.
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Speaker 1: Talk to Jim and ask him a medical problem, and
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Speaker 1: I do that all the time. I got a problem here,
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Speaker 1: or someone or a friend of his says I've got
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Speaker 1: an issue, and you know, I should go to the doctor.
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Speaker 1: The number one piece of device that Jim says is
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Speaker 1: do not go to the er. Stay out of the
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Speaker 1: because it is getting worse and worse. Jim had a
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Speaker 1: birthday party over the weekend and obviously a lot of
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Speaker 1: doctors were there and we were talking about the waiting rooms,
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Speaker 1: and I told the story of what happened with Lindsay
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Speaker 1: when we were the past few months and we were
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Speaker 1: on vacation in Palermo, Italy, and the doctor was telling me,
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Speaker 1: and it's an er doctor, about how you can wait
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Speaker 1: six eight hours in the emergency room and then trying
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Speaker 1: to get a bed in the hospital. You're going to
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Speaker 1: wait a hold that's just to see a doctor, and
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Speaker 1: then to try to get a bed if you need it.
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Speaker 2: That can literally take days. And there.
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Speaker 1: There is a term called boarding is what they do,
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Speaker 1: and boarding is keeping patients in the er on their
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Speaker 1: gurney waiting for a hospital bed to open up if
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Speaker 1: they need a hospital. And a lot of people go
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Speaker 1: in and need a bed.
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Speaker 2: They're in.
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Speaker 1: Not only in the those little cubicles, but they're also
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Speaker 1: in the hallways. And I'm asking Jim, how is that
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Speaker 1: possible you keep someone in the hallways and that's considered
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Speaker 1: an er. He says, that's considered part of the er
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Speaker 1: when people are parked in.
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Speaker 2: The hallway.
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Speaker 1: And this problem is getting worse and worse and worse.
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Speaker 1: And why is that Because the fewer people that have insurance,
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Speaker 1: the more people go to the er, because the er
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Speaker 1: has become their general practitioner. The er has become their
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Speaker 1: internest and all of a sudden, real emergencies are very rare,
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Speaker 1: and then general medicine is what they spend ninety nine
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Speaker 1: percent of their time on. And it's getting worse. That's
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Speaker 1: the problem. As bad as it is, it is getting worse.
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Speaker 1: Going to the er is at least a six to
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Speaker 1: seven hour wait for the doctor unless you've been unless
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Speaker 1: you're suffering from a gunshot wound, or you are, let's say,
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Speaker 1: are having a heart attack or a stroke.
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Speaker 2: I've tried that and.
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Speaker 1: They knew that I was lying when they did my vitals,
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Speaker 1: and that screwed me up a lot because then it
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Speaker 1: kept me in the waiting room for even longer. Just
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Speaker 1: too does it? Just as a yuts to me. So
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Speaker 1: what is the answer to all of this. Well, it's
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Speaker 1: something that will never happen, and that is some kind
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Speaker 1: of a national health system the way everybody in the
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Speaker 1: world has, or every country in the world has, every
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Speaker 1: industrialized country has, except the United States.
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Speaker 2: It's communistic.
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Speaker 1: If we do that, it's socialist, and therefore we don't
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Speaker 1: want that. We do not want a national health system,
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Speaker 1: single payer, where the government pays for medical care like
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Speaker 1: other every other country. So to give you an idea,
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Speaker 1: what happened, and I shared this story before if you
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Speaker 1: haven't heard it. Lindsey has asthma, and she was having
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Speaker 1: an asthma talk in attack in Palermo, Italy, and we
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Speaker 1: had to go to the er because she needed a nebulizer.
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Speaker 1: She had to have medicine with oxygen. And we go
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Speaker 1: to the er and within thirty seconds, she has an
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Speaker 1: an IV in her arm. They put the nebulizer on.
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Speaker 1: It looks like an oxygen mass and there's medicine that
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Speaker 1: comes out of a little plastic container. And so she
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Speaker 1: sees the doctor who said, and we're talking within a minute,
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Speaker 1: you need an ent. You have to have an n T.
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Speaker 1: Take a look at what's going on with your lungs. Okay,
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Speaker 1: give us an appointment. Where do we go? You go upstairs,
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Speaker 1: You go upstairs. We walked up the stairs and there
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Speaker 1: is the department where the ear nose and throat doctor was.
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Speaker 1: World class equipment. Now you know, the building itself was
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Speaker 1: kind of crappy. World class equipment. She was okay. He
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Speaker 1: gave us a prescription for medication. We were in and
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Speaker 1: out in one hour and fifteen minutes. Waiting room, first doctor,
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Speaker 1: second doctor, and treatment boy, just like America, Just like
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Speaker 1: we do here. All right, guys, we are done. That's
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Speaker 1: ithow baby. Neil and I come aboard at six, wake
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Speaker 1: up call at five with Will and Amy, and then
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Speaker 1: you have Cono and Ann who are basically there together,
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Speaker 1: I mean me, they're there together making the show work.
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Speaker 1: Cono never goes home, by the way, just to let
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Speaker 1: you know. He has a couple of children and he
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Speaker 1: doesn't know how they were conceived because he.
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Speaker 2: Was right, that's not let's let's not let's not go there.
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, okay, okay. The truth hurts, doesn't it.
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Speaker 2: It really does hurt. This is kf I A M
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Speaker 2: six point forty