Latest / The Lone Gunman Podcast : JFK Assassination / Ep. 224 ~ TikTok And You Don't Stop
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- 0:15Everything is going to hail down here in Texas. Yeah, Yeah, what's
- 1:03up everybody? This is your boy big bad Vibe with you here. This
- 1:10is the Lone Gumming Podcast, and this is episode numero two hundred and twenty
- 1:18four. That's right, we're getting up there. The good thing I can
- 1:23count anyway, what's up, everybody? Got a fun show for you today?
- 1:29I figured, you know, we've been deep diving into some document do
- 1:34hickory lately, and it's always good to break things up and do a little
- 1:41bit of a fun, more fun, funner episode every once in a while.
- 1:47And I think you'll dig it, because every once in a while,
- 1:49you know, you gotta you gotta clean up the fuckery that's out there,
- 1:53you know what I'm saying. And some fuckery was actually brought to u my
- 2:02attention here recently, and it has to do with more mainstream Mandela effect and
- 2:17also just downright horses assery. So I don't normally pluck emails that are sent
- 2:31to the Quick Hits uh mail bag, but I figured that this one would
- 2:40be better addressed in its own show. Um Doug doesn't have much patience for
- 2:49horse's assery, and I figured I'm bind with the other thing that I'm going
- 2:58to share with you here today, that it would make a good show because
- 3:02it does deserve more than just the pants, a passing observation and comment,
- 3:10because it's becoming a rampant in this world of immediate social media sack dropping.
- 3:21It seems like anybody that has a cell phone, which is everybody, and
- 3:25who chooses to have an opinion on something or another and it has a decent
- 3:35sized following can get the ball rolling and become something that we call viral.
- 3:43So I'm going to read to you an email that was sent to us by
- 3:51listener Lisa Marie. Now she sent us to our Quick Hits mail bag.
- 4:01Like I said, I'm gonna steal it and we're gonna do a show about
- 4:08it. So I'm assuming Lisa Marie listens to this show as well as The
- 4:15Dallas Action as well as Quick Hits, so hopefully she won't mind he's stealing
- 4:21this for the Lone Gumming podcast. So the email starts off this way.
- 4:28Hey, Robin Doug, it's Lisa. You read my email on your November
- 4:31twentieth show, but I only just heard it this week because since then,
- 4:34I've spent my spare time consuming the entire lone Gumming podcast. God bless you.
- 4:44So you do listen to the show, Lisa, that's great. Next
- 4:47up is the Dallas Action. Hey, right, except I want to know
- 4:54why the Dallas Action isn't available on the Apple podcast app. And who do
- 4:58I have to kick in the balls to that happen. Well, Lisa,
- 5:01you're gonna have to kick Doug in the balls. Been trying to get him
- 5:08to get on Apple for years. He just refuses to do it. He's
- 5:13an Android guy like me. But honestly, Lisa, I know it's ease
- 5:20of use or whatever the case may be. I would just recommend to you
- 5:26you get something an app that you can listen to your podcasts on other than
- 5:34Apple Podcasts. I use podcast Addict and it's great. You can subscribe to
- 5:42any show you want to, even if it's not on any podcast platform.
- 5:47You could even subscribe using RSS feed, so it's great. It notifies you
- 5:58when new episodes drop. It checks every morning for new episodes. So I
- 6:04would recommend that. I don't know that Doug is gonna be on Apple podcasts
- 6:10anytime soon, but you can certainly find them on a podcaster like podcast Addict,
- 6:16or download the Spreaker app which you can find all of our stuff there
- 6:20as well and listen via that way. But you know this, I believe
- 6:28the spreaker app only please podcast hosted by Spreaker. Where's something like podcast addict
- 6:36pulls in from everywhere and when I mean everywhere, or when I say everywhere,
- 6:43I mean everywhere. Back to her email anyway, it made my whole
- 6:47day when you mentioned me. All of my non JFK friends were side eyeing
- 6:51me over my excitement. I'm a math teacher, but on November twenty second,
- 6:58I skipped math and did a JFK assassination class with my eighth graders.
- 7:04They were enthralled, and now a few of them have been borrowing some of
- 7:06my books and reading up on the assassination. I hope to be inspiring the
- 7:11next generation of researchers, for sure, and hopefully they're also competent at solving
- 7:15algebraic equations two lol. At least that's awesome. And I ammend you as
- 7:26a teacher for branching out every once in a while. And you know what,
- 7:30you could even incorporate some of the facts from the JFK assassination into your
- 7:39lesson plan if you so desire, such as improbability like the number of deaths
- 7:46surrounding the assassination. Now, I know it's not one of the most uplifting
- 7:50topics, but there are numbers there that should be evaluated and and checked out.
- 8:01Also, you know, uh, really get into like the angles you
- 8:05know of the alleged assassination. You know, from the gool book depository window
- 8:11down to the street, you could triangulate using math the degree of the angle.
- 8:18Um. You know, you can measure out the the tracts of the
- 8:22bullet from there, from the grassy knoll you know, from the street.
- 8:26All kinds of things you can apply mathematically to the assassination. Um might be
- 8:33a good exercise. But anyway, don't listen to me. Uh, I
- 8:37don't have a degree in education. Let alearn mathematical education. All right,
- 8:46back to your email. I wanted to write it because I'm also on TikTok
- 8:50TikTok Okay. You're you're your credibility just dropped the notch there, Lisa.
- 8:58Now I'm joking. I'm joking, and I recently came across a video about
- 9:03a JFK Mandela effect that I thought was absolutely bizarre, and anyone who's ever
- 9:09studied the assassination would never understand how it came to be. Mandela effects are
- 9:15when people collectively remember something happening one way when it actually happened completely differently.
- 9:20For example, Fruit of the Loom logo never had a cornucopia in it,
- 9:26but most people think that it did. I digress. In this case,
- 9:31hundreds of people commented on this girl's video saying that they two had the same
- 9:35memory, that the JFK limousine didn't have a jump seat and the only passengers
- 9:39in the car were JFK Jackie and a driver. People were commenting that they've
- 9:45seen it in pictures, they learned it in history class. Except I just
- 9:48think there's no possible way that anyone could get that wrong if they even spend
- 9:54five minutes learning about the assassination. I agree, Lisa. Is this just
- 10:00people being morons? Yes, you are a one hundred percent correct, uneducated
- 10:05morons, a complete failure of the American education system. Yes, again,
- 10:13you are one hundred percent correct. Or do we really think it's possible that
- 10:16some textbooks could have this wrong? I doubt it. I even I Honestly,
- 10:24I don't even remember textbooks having anything remotely even about the assassination. If
- 10:37it was, it definitely didn't have any pictures, and it may have only
- 10:41mentioned in passing. You know, of course that you know Kennedy was killed
- 10:46by one assassin named Lee Harvey Oswald, and that was about the extent of
- 10:50it. But I could not resist making a response to this girl's video because
- 10:56it was completely mind blowing to me that anyone could learn out the assassination and
- 11:01not know about the jump seats and the fact that the Connollies were in the
- 11:03car along with them. I tried to share the videos as files, but
- 11:07they're too large. Here are the links. Some of the comments are so
- 11:11crazy people remember him sitting on the back of the car and all kinds of
- 11:15crazy shit. Okay, thanks for keeping it real and becoming a part of
- 11:20my daily nerdery nerdery Lisa. All right, Lisa, I've got your links.
- 11:31I have transformed them through the magic technology into audio files. But before
- 11:41we play them, because not everybody is up on things hip with the kids
- 11:52and pick cocking as we are, Lisa, so pardon me. Also,
- 12:00a lot of people may have never even heard of the Mandela effect before,
- 12:03and they're gonna be like, what in the hell are these people talking about.
- 12:07So before we get to what Lisas sent me, and before we get
- 12:15to her response, I want to play too short audio clips. Let's do
- 12:22a minute each one explaining a little bit about different Mandela effects. Okay,
- 12:30here we go. Here's the first one Mandela effects that will make you question
- 12:33everything. First is the thinker statue. When you think of the thinker statue,
- 12:39most people think you have close fist going like this. In reality,
- 12:43he's always had an open fist. His hand is like this, not a
- 12:46closed fist. Next is Shaggy's Adam Apple. Most people remember Shaggy having a
- 12:50very pronounced Adam's apple, but he's actually never had one. Some people attribute
- 12:56this to sometimes it looks like this when he's swallowing, but not very often.
- 13:00So we've all seen the what if I told you? Meme? Right
- 13:01well, in the Matrix, Morpus never says what if I told you?
- 13:05Actually never says it in any part of the trilogy as well, despite all
- 13:09the memes. Next is this candy Mike and Ikes. Most people remember it
- 13:15being called Mike and Ikes, not Mike and ikes. So we all ate
- 13:18these pizza rolls growing up. What are they called Tostino's Pizza roles? Wrong,
- 13:22it's Totino's Pizza Roles. Here are some Mandela effects that will make you
- 13:28question reality. Oh I. Firstly, many people remember Mona Lisa having a
- 13:33blank expression. However, in this famous painting, she's been smiling the whole
- 13:37time. Next, in the famous movie Et, he says the line et
- 13:43phone Home. However, he never said that, and he really said this
- 13:48too. So now everyone can agree that Mickey Mouse wore suspenders, right,
- 13:56I mean, it just looks more accurate. But it looks like my childhood
- 13:58was alive because throughout all the episodes, who has never seen weighing suspenders?
- 14:03And finally, we all remember the famous queen song we are the Champions,
- 14:07right, and it ends by saying we are the champions of the world.
- 14:11However, I don't know why we think of this, but it never says
- 14:15of the world. It just ends. So there's a couple examples of Mandel
- 14:26effects, you know. Some of the other ones are the spelling of looney
- 14:31tunes, the spelling of fruit loops, whether or not KitKat kit Kat bars
- 14:37had a dash in between KitKat, the target logo, the baron Stein or
- 14:43baron Stein Bears controversy. Of course, people who remember. The reason it's
- 14:50called the Mandela effects is because they believed that Mandela died way before he supposedly
- 15:00really died in this timeline. And uh, you know a couple of them
- 15:07that there's people just stated, you know, kind of resonate with me.
- 15:15You know, I definitely definitely remember Et saying ET phone, Oh not ET
- 15:22home phone. I mean, it's just weird. And I definitely remember remember
- 15:30being the bearn Steam Bears, not the barn Stain Bears. But could this
- 15:37just be us misremembering? Or is this a lot of people blame it on
- 15:41CERN. They believe that the experiments being done at CERN have caused timelines to
- 15:50shift and be misremembered in a different way because of all these timelines, you
- 16:00know, coming in and out of things that have been shifted around. And
- 16:06is it just people misremembering things? You know, like Darth Vader never said,
- 16:11Luke, I am your father. He said, no, I am
- 16:15your father. You know, where where did these things come from? In
- 16:19your brain? You know? Like mob Barker, you know, the host
- 16:23of the Price is right, could have swore that dude died years ago.
- 16:27Apparently he's alive and well in turning one hundred years old this year. Yeah,
- 16:33he's still alive. So you know, it's kind of a fascinating thing
- 16:40to look at when you're talking about, you know, the way that the
- 16:45human mind works, you know, or is certain really fucking with things?
- 16:49Who knows? Who knows? But anyway, here is the TikTok ticktock that
- 16:56Lisa sent. Okay, there we go. I know you've heard of the
- 17:03Mandela effect, and if you haven't, please look it up now. With
- 17:06Mandela effects a lot of times and stuff rolls right off my back. You
- 17:08know, it is what it is. It's it's not moving me. But
- 17:12there's one Mandela effect that really really really really really really gets to me,
- 17:18like really gets to me because it's just so ridiculous. And that Mandela effect
- 17:23is gonna have to be the jfk assassination. And I'm gonna tell you why.
- 17:27But this Mandela effect went into like play probably like four years ago.
- 17:33But I remember it only being three people in that car. That middle row
- 17:37did not exist, and like, let's be real, how many cars have
- 17:41y'all seen that got roles like that. What kind of car is this?
- 17:45It's like what a minivan sedan? It was the driver Jackie and J.
- 17:52JFK in the car, not that middle row. So this middle row is
- 17:56at the time, this was a Texas senator and his wife and I don't
- 18:02know. I just never seen a car like this. And this is not
- 18:04what this is not what it was given when I was taught this in school.
- 18:07This isnncern. What's going on? It's acern. It's a cern thing.
- 18:11This is see this will be a certain thing. Now, y'all explained
- 18:15to me why the car in the museum only has two rows like I remember
- 18:19it right, But all the photos have these magic three rows like y'all messed
- 18:27up, But this onecerned y'all didn't do y'all due diligence. Y'all didn't scrub
- 18:32it down right, because y'all left some some remnants of the past when y'all
- 18:37switched it up, y'all left y'all remnants. Y'all left some crumbs behind.
- 18:41Because what is this? Is how I remember it? Do you? I
- 18:47can't tell you how many years ago was that I addressed this man Dell effect
- 18:51on the lone Gum and podcast because it was brought up in a Facebook group
- 18:59and at that point, um, somebody was saying, oh no, the
- 19:10limo wasn't black, it was white, and it only had four seats or
- 19:14four people in it, you know, and they were claiming Mandela effect in
- 19:18this and that, And at that time a lot of the blame could be
- 19:23placed on Life Magazine in their assassination their post assassination issue, they had a
- 19:42picture of a white car with four people in it, two drivers and JFJ
- 19:52and Jackie and no Connolly or Nelly. And you know a lot of these
- 20:00things, if that's all you've seen, can be burned into your memory at
- 20:06a young aide, and I actually had a copy of that Life magazine with
- 20:11that particular fucked up photo in it. And look, there are a lot
- 20:22of photos out there of the JFK limousine and with various people in it,
- 20:30with in various configurations. As Lisa will tell you in just a second.
- 20:36She did response to this TikTok, and I thought she did a great job.
- 20:41So let's hear it now. Okay, this is actually killing me because
- 20:49I don't know how it's possible for anyone not to know this, So just
- 20:53like give me a second. Okay, So this is my JFK bookshelf.
- 20:59I also have like plenty of JFA related memorabilia and that's not even it.
- 21:08Let me just show you what I have here for a second. Okay.
- 21:11So this is a newspaper, an actual physical newspaper from the day after the
- 21:17assassination. And you could see in the picture, I mean great, but
- 21:22there's Kennedy and his wife and that's Connolly's wife in front of them in the
- 21:26jump seat. Um. This is a picture from behind. You can also
- 21:30see, um, jack he's on the back, and that's the back of
- 21:36Connolly's wife's ed Nellie I think is her name. Yeah, definitely very clear.
- 21:42Um. Again, these are new super pictures from the day after the
- 21:45assassination. I think that's the most uh close to the actual day that I
- 21:51have here. Um. This is four Days, which was published in nineteen
- 21:56sixty four. Of four of them. No. Um, So again you
- 22:02could see like backy and JFK and then the middle row and then the two
- 22:10secret service agents in the front yep again like JFK and Jackie, and then
- 22:22that looks like the back of Nellie Connolly's head, and then the Secret Service
- 22:27men are up there, and then this is a magazine from November of nineteen
- 22:33ninety five. And I'm wondering if you may have seen a picture like this
- 22:36which is part of a re enactment and not the actual picture from the assassination
- 22:41day that has um, no jump seat and isn't even a similar type of
- 22:47cards. This book was published in nineteen eighty eight, and again I mean
- 22:56you can very clearly see there are three rows in so um. This book
- 23:07was published in twenty thirteen, so it's newer, UM, but it has
- 23:12pictures from the day before the assassination in it, which again like in this
- 23:18particular arrangement, JFK and Connolly are sitting in the back and Nellie and Jackie
- 23:23are in the middle, and yeah this one they're on opposite sides, um,
- 23:33Connelly and Nellie. UM. You can also find on YouTube there are
- 23:38compilation videos of the limousine all around the country in the years preceding the assassinations.
- 23:45So yeah, thank you Lisa. That was well done. And my
- 23:52nerd comments were completely out of love. I just because no, you're you're
- 24:00human being after my own heart and God bless you for taking the time to
- 24:06clap back, if you will on Erroneous TikTok's you brought up a great number
- 24:14of examples, real life, real tangible object evidence that this Mandela effect isn't
- 24:22just not true. Now, of course, this is an auditory podcast,
- 24:30and in her TikTok, Lisa had plenty of visual examples of the many different
- 24:41configurations and pictures shown of people in this limousine, and also of the reenactments.
- 24:52And I think her observation that sometimes the reenactments get burned in people's minds
- 25:02rather than the actual event is a valid one as well. And in the
- 25:07original TikTok that she refuted, um, the girl had posted a picture of
- 25:15the so called JFK limousine inside of a museum. Okay, Now in this
- 25:27limo, it's in this museum. There are models, fake dummies of JFK
- 25:40and Jackie sitting in the back of this limousine. Okay, So I did
- 25:48a little digging. Well, what what whatever museum that this picture is from
- 25:56is not exactly accurate. So what actually happened to the JFK limousine. Let's
- 26:11find out. Well, it's safe to assume everyone has heard about the tragic
- 26:15assassination of US President John F. Kennedy. Most probably don't know the story
- 26:21about the presidential limousine happening on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three. President
- 26:26John F. Kennedy, his wife jack Land, Texas Governor John Connolly,
- 26:29and his wife Nellie wrote in the presidential limousine, a Lincoln Continental, through
- 26:33the streets of Dallas, Texas at approximately twelve thirty pm. As the motorcade
- 26:37was passing by the Texas School Book Depository, gunshots rang out. Bullet struck
- 26:41President Kennedy on his head and neck, and he was immediately transported to the
- 26:45nearby Parkland Memorial Hospital. The efforts to save the president's life failed, and
- 26:48according to the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum, JFK was pronounced
- 26:53dead at one pm. According to history, Lee Harvey Oswald was arrested and
- 26:57charged for the president's assassination. He never stood trial. He was shot dead
- 27:02two days later by nightclub owner Jack Ruby while being transferred from the Dallas Police
- 27:06headquarters to the county jail. And the years since, there have been many
- 27:08questions regarding JFK's assassination and one of them has to do with the President's Linking
- 27:12Continental. Won't exactly happened to that limousine in the nineteen sixty one link Continental.
- 27:18Lincoln had a whole new design that year, very clean, very elegant,
- 27:21very modern. The Midnight Blue Linking Continental was built by the Ford Motor
- 27:25Company in nineteen sixty one. To make it fit for use during presidential braids,
- 27:29modifications were done by Hess and Eisenbart's, a coach building company that specialized
- 27:33in armored vehicles. According to the Henry Ford Museum, the two companies collaborated
- 27:37to customize the vehicle, which the Secret Service code named X one hundred.
- 27:41The original Linking Continental was cut in half and a three and a half food
- 27:45extension was added to lengthen it. The vehicle included removable roof panels, heating
- 27:48and air conditioning systems, lashing red lights, two radio telephones, and a
- 27:52hydraulic seat to elevate the president. The original car cost about seventy three hundred
- 27:56dollars, but the added features cost almost two hundred thousand dollars approximately one point
- 28:00eight million dollars in today's money. The Ford Motor Company remained the owner of
- 28:04the presidential limousine, leasing it to the Secret Service for roughly five hundred dollars
- 28:08a year. Most of us might assume that the vehicle was retired after President
- 28:12Kennedy's assassination. That wasn't the case. According to the New York Daily News,
- 28:17the presidential limousine was transported back to the White House via cargo plane and
- 28:21kept for evidence while it was documented and analyzed by the Warring Commission, the
- 28:25FBI, and the Secret Service. The windshield, which was hit by a
- 28:27pull it was removed. The White House authorized work to repair and modify the
- 28:32linking continental in December nineteen sixty three, or the hen Report Museum. It
- 28:36was sent to Hessett Eisenhardt's in Cincinnati, Ohio, where it was rebuilt.
- 28:38It was then transported to Ford Motor Company's garage in Deerborn, Michigan, to
- 28:42receive new black paints, reinforce structural parts, additional communication technology, a non
- 28:48removable top, and armor for the passenger compartments. In total, the modifications
- 28:52reportedly cost five hundred thousand dollars to complete, about four point six million dollars
- 28:56in today's money, according to Old Cars Weekly, Kennedy's presidential limousine was used
- 29:02by a few presidents throughout the years, including Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard
- 29:04Nixon, Gerald Ford, and Jimmy Carter. As Motor Biscuit explains, President
- 29:08Johnson only used the Lincoln Continental a few times during his presidency as he was
- 29:12not completely comfortable with it. He opted to ride in other cars from the
- 29:17White House Fleet whenever possible. Other presidential vehicles were built in nineteen sixty eight
- 29:21and nineteen seventy two. Kennedy's Lincoln Continental remained a part of the White House
- 29:25Fleet until it was finally retired in nineteen seventy seven. People are always just
- 29:30stunned when I tell them that this car would use and it be used until
- 29:33nineteen seventy seven. It was then sent to the kenry Ford Museum of American
- 29:37Innovation, located in Deerborn, Michigan, and it is displayed together with other
- 29:41cars built by the Bard mart Of Company. To this day, the JFK.
- 29:44Lincoln Continental remains one of the museum's most popular displays. With its shiny
- 29:48exterior and superb condition, Those who aren't aware of the vehicle's story wouldn't think
- 29:52that it is one of the most notorious vehicles in American history. Some of
- 29:55the museum's visitors leave flowers by the Lincoln Continental, especially on November twenty seconds,
- 30:00the anniversary of Kennedy's death. Okay, so a couple of things from
- 30:10this. I don't know what Ripley's believe it or not museum that the original
- 30:14TikTok got their picture from, but it obviously was not the real JFK Lincoln
- 30:25modified limousine that is actually on display in Detroit at the Ford History Museum.
- 30:34And I highly doubt that they have mannequins of fake JFK and fake Jackie in
- 30:41the back of the car at the museum. In fact, they're pictures of
- 30:45the car at the museum and there are no dummies in the back. Now,
- 30:52the reason that some of these JFK style Lincoln cars in museums appeared only
- 31:08have two rows of seats is because they only have two rows of seats.
- 31:14You just heard the man say the modifications done to the limousine. It was
- 31:19cut in half and three and a half feet were added to the middle of
- 31:23it. Now in that area was installed jump seats which could be folded down
- 31:33not visible to the naked eye. The rear seat could be elevated by a
- 31:40hydraulic system, you know, to raise up the president on his motor kas
- 31:48so that he could be seen better. So, of course, this could
- 31:53account for some pictures of the JFK limousine to appear to only have two rows
- 31:57of seats, because when the jump seats are not in use, they are
- 32:02folded down and not visible to the public, especially if nobody's sitting in them.
- 32:08So in order to do these modifications to have an exact replica of the
- 32:15JFK limousine, it would cost millions of dollars, which these mon pa fucking
- 32:23ripley's, believe it or not, whatever museums that have Lincoln replicas quote unquote
- 32:30of the JFK limousine, they're not accurate because they can't be. It would
- 32:38cost entirely too much money. Who have a balls dead accurate replication of the
- 32:49nineteen sixty one Lincoln limousine that was modified JFK with three rows of seats and
- 32:59all the very acutre mons such as a removable roof, heating and cooling system,
- 33:05to radio telephones, and a hydraulic rear seat, along with jump seats
- 33:09installed in the middle so there you have it. I mean, it's awfully
- 33:15easy to find a sixty one Lincoln, paint its right color, you know,
- 33:21put some red lights in the front and say, hey, this is
- 33:25the JFK limousine. But no, no, no, no, nay,
- 33:31name the real one is in Detroit, folks. It does not have dummies
- 33:37in the back of it. And you know, it would just cost entirely
- 33:43too much to do those modifications to be one hundred percent historically accurate. Hence
- 33:49the reason why people believe when they see things like this in other museums that
- 33:53they're seeing the real vehicle. But that's not the case, not the case
- 34:00at all. So hence the Mandela effect conundrum. You know, I understand
- 34:10it because in my mind, some things I do remember a different way.
- 34:22I get it. But then some of the things that other people remember a
- 34:27different way are utterly ridiculous. Now, is it because as these timelines shift
- 34:44in and out for certain individuals, did not all of the residual change.
- 34:54Now there's a good one out there about Jane Goodall. And I don't know
- 35:02if if you're older and old like means, and you remember Jane Goodall,
- 35:09you kind of remember her working with these lowland gorillas in the Congo and all
- 35:17of this stuff you know from National Geographic Magazine and all that. In fact,
- 35:27Jane Goodall actually worked with chimpanzees, not gorillas. And then some people
- 35:36remember the movie Gorillas in the Midst with Sigourney Weaver and think that it was
- 35:42about Jane Goodall when it was actually about Diane Fawsey who was murdered in Rwanda.
- 35:51She worked with lowland gorillas, not Jane Goodall. But then when all
- 35:58this haram based stuff was going down a couple of years ago, you know,
- 36:02when they had to kill that gorilla after the little kid fell in his
- 36:06enclosure, the expert that they went to to talk about it was Jane Goodall,
- 36:15and harambe it was actually a lowland gorilla from the Congo. So sometimes
- 36:25things get a little squirrelly. Now, of course they couldn't interview Diane Fauset
- 36:30because she was murdered. And I guess the next primate expert, if you
- 36:35will, on the list of notorious primate experts, would be Jane Goodall,
- 36:40which makes sense, but it caused to some people to believe that that that
- 36:47is a remnant, a Mandela effect or remnant left out there from the timeline
- 36:54that they remember, and it can all get a little crazy, I understand.
- 37:04But you know, for for those of us who have been looking at
- 37:08the assassination for thirty some years, there's very little aspects of it that actually
- 37:15no aspects of it that have been Mandela affected. For me, man,
- 37:22I don't believe you know, that would be like saying, you know,
- 37:27tomorrow, if somebody put up a video saying that Lee Harvey Oswald instead of
- 37:35saying, I'm just a patsy. If if if you know, now,
- 37:40if you go look at the video on YouTube, now, if he said
- 37:45no, but I'm just a patsy but you remembered a different way, that
- 37:52would be fucked up. And so far that doesn't happened, at least for
- 38:00me, at least in the JFK assassination. Lord, So all right,
- 38:09but anyway, thank you, thank you to Lisa for bringing that to my
- 38:15attention and our attention and addressing it so succinctly as you did. Lisa,
- 38:21Bravo for you great job, and I just figured it deserved its own extended
- 38:30look, and hopefully I helped a little bit with the information about the limousine
- 38:38and where it is and all of that jazz, and so hopefully this Mandela
- 38:45effect, this person insanely wrong Mandela effect, can be put to bed once
- 38:52and for all. Now next up for you. Hell, look, it's
- 39:06one thing when if you're a serious researcher into the JFK assassination, like I
- 39:16like to think of myself as it burns my ass, when other so called
- 39:27serious JFK assassination researchers put out there theories that are not based in fact,
- 39:40but are presented as fact, and you know, much like the whole Oswald
- 39:47in the Doorway thing that's been debunked seven ways from Sunday for years and years
- 39:53and years, and then you bring it up and dread it up like you've
- 39:58undiscovered uh gold, and the town run and and and push it down everybody's
- 40:06throats, convince others so called prominent researchers that your theory has merits and it
- 40:14doesn't um and the waters of the JFK assassination research community get muddied and muddied
- 40:23and muddied, and you know, people that don't know better, new faces,
- 40:31new minds to the JFK research or the JFK assassination research community get polluted
- 40:39easily from the get go because of horseshit in the water. You know,
- 40:47at least the things that I'm saying, at least you know, the Jupi
- 40:53Verry Baker things and and the Ralphs and Kay things, and you know some
- 40:59of the various other nonsensical quote unquote research into the JFK assassination and so called
- 41:06quote evidence presented by various people throughout the years as legitimate, um at least
- 41:15in there, and there's somewhat down syndrome tainted heart they mean will I mean,
- 41:28I don't think that they consciously know that the information that they're putting out
- 41:35there is absolutely one hundred percent bullshit, bogus, unverifiable lies. I mean,
- 41:46I just I just don't think that. I think somewhere and they're in
- 41:54they're twisted souls. They believe that they're right. And what hurts more than
- 42:06that, what hurts our community more than that, are very well known,
- 42:15very mainstream, very famous conspiracy theories. Okay, who purvey a narrative that
- 42:28has been debunked forever, presenting facts that have been debunked over and over again,
- 42:39presenting opinions that are mired in stupidity, And it deeply hurts my soul
- 42:49when I hear that, because I know that information reaches thousands and thousands and
- 42:59thousands of people, and these and of these thousands and thousands and thousands of
- 43:05people, they may only have a cursory knowledge of the day of k assassination.
- 43:10It's in pieces they've heard along the way. They're not serious researchers.
- 43:15Researchers, and when they hear this information being provided by someone that they trust,
- 43:22someone that they look up to, someone that has a little bit of
- 43:27merit and weight behind their name, nothing hurts more than that. Because it's
- 43:36very easy. They make it very easy for learning nutters to point and last
- 43:45a conspiracy theorists. When it comes to the jfk assassination, they can say,
- 43:52look, see, just listen to this guy. This is the best
- 43:55you got. This is what you're telling in everybody, this is the best
- 44:00you've got? Are you kidding me? Now? The clip that I'm going
- 44:07to play you it's from a show that I listened to all the time.
- 44:15I like this show because, hey, it's funny, it doesn't take itself
- 44:21too seriously. It knows what it is. I'm a fan of the hosts
- 44:30stand up comedy. I would even pay to go see him live if he
- 44:36ever came anywhere around here where I live, which I highly doubt he will.
- 44:43But knowing this guy's reach, his associations, and the power that his
- 44:54show has, that this is the kind of shit it comes out of his
- 45:00mouth about the jaffk assassination. Now, this is not his focus. Now
- 45:07it is a conspiracy theory oriented show. You know, there's there's stuff on
- 45:14there about you know, politics, Uh, the vacs, the JAB,
- 45:21the Qannon. There's there's stuff on there about Tartaria, old World, Florida,
- 45:29um, giants, aliens, you know, you name it, the
- 45:32name of the podcast. What I'm talking about here is the Tinfoil Hat podcast
- 45:38hosted by Sam Tripoli. Now, Sam Tripoli is a stand up comedian,
- 45:47rather famous one. Um. He associates with the likes of your Rogan,
- 45:53who I'm sure you've heard of. Um. You know, he's a famous
- 45:58stand up comedian all that. You know, a lot of these stand up
- 46:00comedians have have podcasts, Um, you know, Joey Diaz, Joe Rogan,
- 46:07Bert Kreicher, um, and so on and so forth. So this
- 46:13guy is a big deal, and his show is a big deal. It's
- 46:16it's listened to by He probably gets I don't know, probably a million downloads
- 46:24a month. I'm just guessing everywhere that it is um but for this information,
- 46:31but he put out there just off the cuff is amazing to me.
- 46:38So without further ado, I'm gonna play this clip for you from his show.
- 46:46Now. His guest on this show is Eddie Bravo, who is a
- 46:54stand up comedian, a jiu jitsu teacher. He's a asociated with Joe Rogan
- 47:00and the UFC and all this other stuff. So not to be taken lately.
- 47:09So here we go until happening about global controls have to be imposed and
- 47:21then then then then a world governing body will be created to engage the day.
- 47:30Dude, what's that's the Bruner fucking film? It's less that is some
- 47:37CGI extra shit that was added. Wow, that bombs that driver he shot
- 47:45the fucking fatal blow he did well, I mean for later on said he
- 47:51thought it was a doctor video. Oh really, but I still think it
- 47:54happened. You know what, I think everybody video if it's at their video
- 48:00yet, yes, then okay they fooled us again but but regardless, regardless
- 48:06if it was the driver who who shot the fatal blow or whatever, I'm
- 48:12a million percent convinced a lot of motherfuckers weren't involved. Cia fucking everybody,
- 48:20Lyndon B. Johns, and they were all involved. They were all involved,
- 48:24and they all got together and it looks like they had multiple shooters and
- 48:29they all tried to shoot them. And then like the insurance, Like in
- 48:32my estimation, that driver was like the insurance, if we fucking missed this
- 48:37motherfucker, you gotta pull that shit out and blast his head. All right,
- 48:43I'm gonna pause it right there. Just in that short clip, most
- 48:46of the person talking is Eddie Bravo, with Sam Tripoli interjecting here and there.
- 48:54Now, this whole Limo driver shooting JFK thing has been around for thirty
- 49:06or forty years, brought forth by Bill Cooper where he had a shitty copy
- 49:13of the Zempruter film. And if you watch that shitty copy of the Symprueter
- 49:17film, it does, in fact, if you zero in on that area
- 49:23and blow it up a little bit, it does, in fact look like
- 49:25the driver turns around and shoots JFK in the head. Now, after he
- 49:37put that theory out there in the world thirty or forty years ago, and
- 49:44the Pruter film was cleaned up and slowed down and colorized and stabilized and all
- 49:52that jazz, you can clearly see that it is not the driver pulling the
- 50:00pistol up and shooting in the limousine. It is a gene off of the
- 50:07passenger's head shifting in the light of the movie. Not only that, don't
- 50:20you think, okay, if the driver had turned around and shot JFK,
- 50:30that the people in the car would have known it, that somebody on the
- 50:37street would have seen it. And they say, oh, yeah, well,
- 50:43you know, Jackie was trying to get out of the car because the
- 50:45driver was shooting, not so much not so much so as you can see,
- 50:57you know, we've already got that theory out there, the theory that
- 51:01everybody in the world wanted. JFK did Lindon Johnson's the CIA, and everybody
- 51:08collaborated on him. It was like, you know, all these assassins were
- 51:14there and daily Plaza and if none of them got him, and then it
- 51:16was up to the driver to turn around and hit the final blow and blah
- 51:21blah blah, so yeah, here we go, Here we go. Folks
- 51:25were only a minute and a half in let's go. That's that's what I
- 51:30think. I think, and I think everybody in that and I think everybody
- 51:37in it knew that they were gonna throw a Harvey Lee all walked down the
- 51:39boat like they knew, like, Oh, we're gonna he's gonna the one
- 51:43that's gonna go down, Harvey Lee Oswald, Harvey Lee Oswald, good job.
- 51:52That was the XG Xavier Guerrero, which is a fabulous research into Harvey
- 52:00Able. We're gonna all shoot him, but he's the one that to me.
- 52:05To me, the most interesting thing about what you're suggesting here with the
- 52:07driver I being the shooter, is that it implies that Jackie Kennedy was also
- 52:13in on it, because she would have seen it. I mean, she
- 52:15was in the perfect nobody turnaround. Watch what she did. She gets up
- 52:20and fucking jumps out of the car and tries to go out to the back,
- 52:23right. But I'm saying, like it implies she's in it after the
- 52:27fact, you know, like somebody got to her and said, listen,
- 52:29you can't tell anybody what you saw, which that's really interesting. I believe
- 52:31that. I believe I believe that. I believe that. Now go back
- 52:37and watches the Pruter film again and watch frame three thirteen very carefully, and
- 52:45you will see Jackie is not looking at the driver of the limo at that
- 52:50instant. He's actually cradling and bending down and looking at JFK at that very
- 53:00moment. He wouldn't have seen the driver shoot JFK if that's actually what happened.
- 53:08And of course by this time Connolly has been pulled down it off his
- 53:15jump seat by his wife, so the driver would have had a clear shot.
- 53:23But that of course is not what happened, and Jackie wouldn't have seen
- 53:29it if it actually happened. Just takes a second. Boys to go back
- 53:32and watch these Breo film Let's continue. Probably I don't all. I'm guessing,
- 53:39thank god, everybody's dead because they can't sue me or anything. But
- 53:44I'm guessing. I'm guessing they probably sat Jacqueline o'nassas and any down and say,
- 53:52listen, your husband's been fucking Jacqueline o nassas Kennedy, who the fuck
- 53:59is that? At this time she was Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy. She wouldn't be
- 54:06Jacquie Jacqueline Kennedy o'nassas until she married o'nassis a couple of years later. Um,
- 54:16and she would never have been Onnassis Kennedy. It was Jacqueline Kennedy o'nassas.
- 54:21But anyway, maybe just a forty and slip, I mean, or
- 54:24this guy can't speak right, let's continue everything. And they probably had to
- 54:30prove because apparently I don't know if it was true or not, but he
- 54:35had like on average one new mistress a month, that's what they I don't
- 54:39know. That could be all bullshit. I could be all buss, but
- 54:44I can see if if they made it up, it's either true or they
- 54:47made it up. And if it's true, they just sent her down and
- 54:51said, listen to your husband's a piece of shit. He's fucking all these
- 54:53houses. He's fucking Marilyn Monroe. But it was if it was false,
- 55:00it was false and they just made it up, it still works because if
- 55:04they just like made it up and she believed it, she could go along
- 55:07with the cover up. Yeah, now we all know JFK was a womanizer.
- 55:17Yes, he may have had an affair with Mary Monroe. And various
- 55:22other women along the way. Sure, but if you think for a second,
- 55:28folks, that Jacqueline didn't know about any of this, then I don't
- 55:37know what to tell you. Back then, it wasn't as frowned upon on
- 55:45as it is now. I mean, certain things when you're that rich and
- 55:51you're that privileged just is allowed to kind of happen. Not in public,
- 56:00of course, you know, if something were to become public, then we
- 56:06have a problem. But you know, if you want to bang this one
- 56:09banging that one, you know this don't embarrass me. And I'm sure Jacqueline
- 56:15was doing the same thing. Um you know, who knows. But they
- 56:23didn't kill JFK just because he was a piece of shit, womanizer and fucking
- 56:30everything in sight. But I digress. Let's continue. Well, you know,
- 56:37if you talk to Olie Demiguard, he says that whole plaza it's just
- 56:42all assassins. It's just like he's like John Wick and they all get the
- 56:46call and he goes in and just everyone stoop dooop and the bang bang bang.
- 56:52He couldn't get out of there alive. But the interesting thing, I'm
- 56:57no, Wow, that's funny. And I've just watched the new John Wick
- 57:04movie yesterday, so it does resonate a bit. H Only Damn a Guard
- 57:12Okay is somebody I first heard on the old Jim Fetzer radio show, and
- 57:23you know he has since been went on to I have heard him on this
- 57:29show before and makes it sound like there was fifteen to twenty assassins from around
- 57:38the world called in to take JFK out in Dearly Plazid that day. You
- 57:45know, like everybody just showed up with contracts, not knowing who fucking sent
- 57:50him, and you know, just collaborated on taking this guy out. And
- 57:58yeah, so let's continue Huckercker Carlson fan, because you know what he did
- 58:02to Gary webb Um. But he just did interesting h segment on a show
- 58:10talking about why Nixon stepped down. And the belief is that Nixon stepped down
- 58:17because he pulled out of the CIA into his office and there's an audio recording
- 58:23of this and he basically goes, I know the CIA assassinated Kennedy and the
- 58:30CIA director just sat there quietly, didn't say anything, and next thing you
- 58:36know, he's got ran out and they put because they forced Nixon to take
- 58:40Gerald Ford. He didn't want him, but they made him, so he
- 58:45took him on the bam. Gerald Ford stepped right in and was the president.
- 58:51Yeah, you know, with Richard Morrison's CIA guy. By the way.
- 58:55Okay, so this meeting between Richard Nixon and Richard Helms where Nixon told
- 59:10Helms he knows the CIA killed Kennedy. The Helms sat there and didn't say
- 59:15anything. I don't remember that actually taking place, but okay, and Nixon
- 59:28didn't step down. He was impeached, I believe, thank you to the
- 59:35Watergate scandal. And they don't know whether or not he wanted Gerald Ford as
- 59:43a running mate or not, but certainly Ford stepped right in as his successor.
- 59:54And of course gerald Ford was on the Warrant Commission. Year old Ford
- 1:00:00appointed George H. W. Bush as head of the CIA during his tenure.
- 1:00:07Um, so there's that. But the stuff that he's spitting out as
- 1:00:14facts is totally wrong. Back to it. It's a CIA guy. Well.
- 1:00:19He was also on the Warren Commission, which exonerated the CIA from any
- 1:00:23wrongdoings. So he was the perfect guy. The one thing about Nixon,
- 1:00:29though, is we've been I don't know, maybe we got trumped. Maybe
- 1:00:32maybe you know, because Nixon is notorious. He's like, like the most
- 1:00:37notorious president of all time. And maybe we got brainwashed into thinking that.
- 1:00:44It's hard to tell, but I mean he was president, So I mean,
- 1:00:47how did you become president if you weren't part of this ship? And
- 1:00:52he was responsible. He was the guy who Richard Nixon was the guy who
- 1:00:57put together Operation forty, which was the forty international assassins put together to take
- 1:01:04out Fidel Castro. Huh ah, oh oh eddie, oh eddie. So
- 1:01:20now we have Richard Nixon in charge of Operation forty. There was a group
- 1:01:28of forty international assassins that we're supposed to kill Fidel Castro. You can't make
- 1:01:37this shit up, folks, continue so all that shit's really confusing. Maybe
- 1:01:44that's a good thing. Maybe that's a bad thing. Yeah, maybe maybe
- 1:01:46Richard Nixon is the most notorious president of all time because we were brainwashed and
- 1:01:52and and they smeared him, like like with Trump, you know what I
- 1:01:54mean, like Trump, Like people think Trump is a Nazi psycho path dictator,
- 1:02:00you know what I mean, When really he's just the fucking shit talking
- 1:02:05dude who is trying to drain the swamp and but so when it comes to
- 1:02:12Nixon, it's hard at like, did we did we get brainwashing to think
- 1:02:15Nick into thinking Nixon was, um this horrible person when really he was he
- 1:02:22was actually trying to drain the swamp. I will say, I will say
- 1:02:25he did. He did arrange delivering supplies and fuel to Israel during the Yam
- 1:02:31Kapor War. So he was a bit of a Zionist. Wow. Yeah,
- 1:02:37but how do we know? You know, when when ship, when
- 1:02:39ship gets done during someone's presidency, dude, there's so much that goes involved
- 1:02:45into getting like a bill passed or like like funding. It isn't like the
- 1:02:49president. It's like, yeah, you know, like you saw who was
- 1:02:52president, dude, everybody in government was against them, the possible representator doest
- 1:02:58I do think it was like he ordered it though it was like something that
- 1:03:00was from the president. Yeah, Nixon. I don't know. I don't
- 1:03:05know is good, but I'm with you. I do think that he's been
- 1:03:09smeared after the fact so much that you're just supposed to say because I mean,
- 1:03:14think about the stuff he did. He ended Vietnam, he ended the
- 1:03:15draft, he went to China. A lot of things that you could consider
- 1:03:20good if it wasn't for that, what does that mean? Like, well,
- 1:03:24nobody, nobody had gone to China before him. You know, they're
- 1:03:28just saying now only Nixon could go to China, and it's because he opened
- 1:03:30up relations with China kind of like Trump did with Russia. Oh okay,
- 1:03:36yeah, mean Nixon was a good guy. I don't know, I don't
- 1:03:39know. And then and then you don't really know about like Ronald Reagan because
- 1:03:45I don't know Ronald Reagan. I would love to see a documentary about Ronald
- 1:03:50Reagan, like a Truther documentary about Ronald Reagan. Like, I mean,
- 1:03:53they did try to assassinate him. They try to jfk Ronald Reagan. So
- 1:03:58he must have been good right for a while. But maybe after they almost
- 1:04:02killed him, maybe he just fucking snapped out of it and saying I'm gonna
- 1:04:05go along with this. Ye well, dude, after they almost killed him,
- 1:04:08that's when his brain went. George Bush Senior was his vice president,
- 1:04:15but he had nothing to do with wrong right, like just like Gerald's board
- 1:04:19and Richard Nixon. George Bush Singer who was the head of the CIA,
- 1:04:27whose father, whose father, Press Scott Bush, formed the book in CIAX.
- 1:04:33All right, hold on the second, so I'm could have swore the
- 1:04:42attempted assassination on Ronald Reagan Atten happened making the first year that he was president,
- 1:04:50like an eighty one or something, so he was good before that and
- 1:04:56then had dementia for the next seven years. Hm. I mean, I
- 1:05:04don't know about that. And then to say that Prescott Bush formed the CIA,
- 1:05:12Come on, man, come on, mom vice president, and then
- 1:05:17they try to kill Ronald Reagan, and then that would if they would have
- 1:05:21succeeded, that would have meant George Bush Senior would have been right. By
- 1:05:29the way, the guy who tried to kill Ronald Reagan was George Bush's cousin.
- 1:05:36That's yeah. You can't make this shit up, folks. You can't
- 1:05:43make this shit up. He was not related to George Bush. John Hinkley
- 1:05:48is not related to Peorge Bush Senior. They were not cousins. Their families
- 1:05:56knew each other, which is pointed out here, but definitely not related.
- 1:06:02Come on, that makes sense, rightly sat dinner the night before. Yeah,
- 1:06:12that makes that makes sense. Maybe maybe the dude who shot Ronald Reagan
- 1:06:19Hinckley is related to Eddie. Do you know else's related to who Rock Obama.
- 1:06:30Now, just to go back a minute, two, h John Hinckley
- 1:06:38Junior being related to the Bushes. Now, there never actually was a dinner
- 1:06:51between the Bushes and the Hinkleys. It was actually Scott Hinckley, who was
- 1:06:57John's older brother and vice president of Vanderbilt Energy Corporation in Denver, Colorado,
- 1:07:04had plans to attend a dinner party. He and a date were invited to
- 1:07:11the home of Neil Bush, who worked for the Amaco Oil Company and who
- 1:07:16also happened to be the son of Vice President George Bush under Ronald Reagan.
- 1:07:21At that moment back in DC, Reagan was being shoved into the presidential limousine
- 1:07:26and whisked away to the hospital after John Hinckley Junior had fired six times.
- 1:07:30One bullet ricocheted off the limousine and hit Reagan and the left arm pick,
- 1:07:34collapsing as lung and causing profuse bleeding. God Hinckley had met Neil Bush earlier
- 1:07:42that year at a party and became friendly with the fourth child of George Bush,
- 1:07:47who is Neil. After news of the assassination attempt broke, Neil Bush
- 1:07:53canceled to dinner and then the shootings. Aftermath, the media swarmed the Bush
- 1:07:57family on their connections to the Hinckleys. The only connection between the would be
- 1:08:01assassin John Hinckley Junior and the Bush family turned out to be Scott Hinckley and
- 1:08:05Neil Bush. Neil Bush told reporters he never recalled meeting John Hinckley Junior.
- 1:08:12Hinckley, unlike his older brother Scott, who graduated from Vanderbilt before joining the
- 1:08:16family business, couldn't seem to achieve much in life. Scott Hinckley tried to
- 1:08:24have his brother institutionalized, actually three weeks before the shooting, but his father,
- 1:08:29John Hinckley Senior nixt the plan, believing it would cause his son more
- 1:08:32emotional scars. Roger Stone, the Republican operative and ally of former President Richard
- 1:08:43Nixon and Donald Trump, later seized on the Bush Hinckley connections to come up
- 1:08:46with a conspiracy theory about a second shooter involved in the assassination attempt and that
- 1:08:50George H. W. Bush was actually behind it. So there's that volks.
- 1:08:59Now when it comes to John Hinkley Junior being related to Barack Obama,
- 1:09:12this is actually true, true, and everybody out there should be familiar with
- 1:09:18the six degrees of separation or six degrees of Kevin Bacon that you know somehow
- 1:09:29everybody is related or can be associated within six degrees of separation. So idea,
- 1:09:43idea, Ideally, Okay, me and Brad Pitt are separated by six
- 1:09:51people potentially, like, out of all the people that I know or or
- 1:09:58am, or all the people I'm related, there is one person who out
- 1:10:06of all the people they know or who related to, there is another person.
- 1:10:13And out of all the people that they know are related to, there's
- 1:10:15another person, and so on and so on until you get six degrees of
- 1:10:19separation between me and Brad Pitt. So if I could find the right six
- 1:10:27degrees of separation, it would essentially take me six steps two meet or talk
- 1:10:38to Brad Pitt or Kevin Bacon or whoever. Okay, So there's actually eleven
- 1:10:53degrees of separation between Barack Obama and John Hinckley Jr. They are ninth cousins,
- 1:11:03two times removed. Okay. So if you take everything all the way
- 1:11:12back to a fellow by the name of Samuel Hinkley, Okay, all right,
- 1:11:20and you go down through nine generations, okay, of the Samuel Hinckley
- 1:11:32and Sarah seul Lineage. They had two children, one a woman by the
- 1:11:43name is Susannah Hinkley, and one by the name of John Hinckley. John
- 1:11:49Hinkley married Bertha Lawthrip. Susannah Hinkley married the Reverend John Smith. Susan Anna
- 1:12:00and John had a son named Samuel, and John Hinckley and Bertha also had
- 1:12:06a son named Samuel Hinkley. So now we have Samuel Smith and Samuel Hinkley.
- 1:12:15Damuel Smith and Elizabeth Pierce had a son named Shubel. Samuel Hinckley and
- 1:12:23Martha Loathrip had a son named Samuel Hinkley as well, who married Mary Wyatt.
- 1:12:28Their son was named Abel Hinkley. Shubal Smith married Prudence fitz Randolph and
- 1:12:34they had a daughter named Mary Smith, who married Jonathan Dunham. They had
- 1:12:43a child named Samuel Dunham. While on the other side, Abel Hinkley and
- 1:12:46Sarah had a son named Abel Hinkley Jr. Who married Hannah Wheeler, who
- 1:12:54gave birth to Alfred Hinkley. Back on the other side, Samuel dun married
- 1:13:00a Hannah Somebody and they had a son named Jacob Dunham. Jacob married Katherine
- 1:13:08Goodnight and Alfred Hinkley on the other side married Eliza Stanley. Their son was
- 1:13:14named Francis Edward Hinckley. And back on the other side, Jacob Dunham and
- 1:13:17Katherine Goodnight's son was named Jacob Mackie Dunham. He married Louisa Eliza Trot and
- 1:13:28they had had a son named Jacob William Dunham. Back on the other side,
- 1:13:32Francis Edward Hinkley married Amelia Smith and they had a son named Perceval Porter
- 1:13:39Hinkley. Perceval married Katherine Avla Warnock and they had a son named John Warnock
- 1:13:47Hinkley. Back on the other side, Jacob William Dunham and Mary Anne Kearney
- 1:13:53married and had a son named Ralph Waldo Emerson Dunham. Ralph married Ruth Lucille
- 1:14:00Armor and had a son named Stanley Armor Dunham. On the other side,
- 1:14:12John Warnock Hinckley and Joe Anne Moore had a son named John Hinckley Jr.
- 1:14:17Now this is the guy who shot President Reagan. And back on the other
- 1:14:21side, Stanley Armored Dunham married Madeleine Lee Payne. They had a daughter named
- 1:14:30Stanley Ann Dunham who married Barack Hussein Obama. Together they gave birth to Barack
- 1:14:43Obama. If you believe all of this crazy lineage, and didn't you have
- 1:14:50the problem of the old birth certificates and all that jazz with Barack Obama?
- 1:14:56So are they really related? Who the hell knows? And just to finish
- 1:15:00this off real quick, believe it. I don't know why, but I
- 1:15:03do Bushes and the Obama's their first common ancestor or their relative is a Hinkley.
- 1:15:12That's great, thy guy's real quick. I will tell you that this
- 1:15:15episode who spout you by the free five day c b DC opt out Challenge?
- 1:15:20Have you guys heard of c b dcs? All right? So there
- 1:15:26you haven't, folks. This is the kind of fuckery that hurts the most
- 1:15:38these mainstream conspiracy theory shows who just spout here responsible quote unquote for facts and
- 1:15:46just throw shit out to the wind and it's caught by unawares folks out there
- 1:15:57who may not be totally read up and researched in the Kennedy assassination and just
- 1:16:02believe whatever these guys are saying. And then it gets repeated and repeated and
- 1:16:06repeated, and then all of a sudden, you have all this horses assery
- 1:16:12and horse shit out in the world for people like us to wade through and
- 1:16:16parse and try to fix, which is the whole point of doing this show
- 1:16:21here today. And again, don't I don't hate Sam Tripoli. I love
- 1:16:28his show. I just think that they need to be a little bit more
- 1:16:31responsible about the things they put out there about the assassination and maybe should have
- 1:16:39on a real reputable researcher into the assassination to set things right with them and
- 1:16:46explain to them why what they believe or what they've been told along the way,
- 1:16:53because they're just products of their environment. Okay, they it's not their
- 1:17:00fault. They're just repeating things that they've heard that have been erroneously put out
- 1:17:03there by other people. But when you do that and you keep procreating these
- 1:17:10myths, you're doing more harm than good. So that's all. Once again,
- 1:17:19thank you to the lovely Lisa Marie for your email. I hope we
- 1:17:27helped and got to the bottom of stuff. Keep up the good work,
- 1:17:30keep up the good fight, and keep listening to the damn shows. If
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- 1:17:41Gumming Podcast, the YouTube page. Feel free to follow it and like it
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- 1:17:58Untold Stories, I'm not using your ship, bro. I put out your
- 1:18:05episode on the Loan Guming from the Vault to replay things and put them back
- 1:18:16out there so they can be heard by more people than the original audience.
- 1:18:23So don't worry, Eric, That'll be the last time anything from your show
- 1:18:30goes out on my feed. I didn't claim was my own. I left
- 1:18:33your intro in there, and your names and everything else. It's not like
- 1:18:36I claimed your work as my own. Okay, it was meant as a
- 1:18:42as a good thing, but you turned it into a bad thing. So
- 1:18:46don't worry. That show has been deleted. It won't happen again, and
- 1:18:51I'll never mention your name on this show ever again or your podcast, So
- 1:18:57keep my name out of Mark Grubert's mouth. Thanks. I have a great
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