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- 0:00lot of people get this misconceived notion that only people with money can afford to see a financial planner.
- 0:07I'm barely making it.
- 0:08Why do I need to see a financial planner?
- 0:10The investments are important and it's to retire and you're getting into that phase of retirement, you really want to have a roadmap that looks at everything life quakes.
- 0:22I heard that term a number of years ago by a woman named Deb DeLisi.
- 0:27She started the Abundant Love Project.
- 0:29Her daughter was very sick and committed suicide.
- 0:35Well, hello there and welcome to Create The Best Me.
- 0:48I am Carmen Hecox, your host and personal development coach.
- 0:52Today's guest is Danette Lowe, a certified financial planner, president of True North Wealth Management, and the host of Ready to Retire podcast on YouTube.
- 1:05Danette's mission is to help women become more comfortable with their finances.
- 1:11and investments so they can become ambassadors to their retirement portfolio.
- 1:17Today she's here to talk about financial planning for women in midlife.
- 1:23Let's join the conversation now.
- 1:25Danette Lowe Welcome to Create The Best Me.
- 1:29I am beyond thrilled to have you on.
- 1:32Thank you so much.
- 1:34I'm so happy to be able to get together.
- 1:36Danette, the reason why I invited you on to the show is because you're a specialist in financial planning.
- 1:44So can you briefly explain what a certified financial planner does and how that differs from other financial professionals.
- 1:54What we mainly focus on is building a financial plan for our clients, and we also manage investments.
- 2:04So a lot of financial advisors will manage investments, but our main focus is on building the financial plan first.
- 2:12It's so much more important to have a roadmap for success, then it is just to do the investments.
- 2:20The investments are important and it's great but, when you're getting ready to retire and you're getting into that phase of retirement, you really want to have a roadmap that looks at everything.
- 2:30It looks at your IRAs and it looks at your, 401ks and it builds everything together.
- 2:38And we really focus on making plans that are really flexible because it's really hard to answer the question, what do I want to do in 30 years from now?
- 2:47So we want to build a plan that's really flexible.
- 2:50So that's how it's Other than a financial planner or certified financial planner, what else do you do?
- 2:57In addition to being a financial planner, I own my own business.
- 3:01I also have, a granddaughter and I spent a lot of time with my granddaughter.
- 3:07I'm also getting ready to have a second grandchild, coming up in March.
- 3:12So I think when this episode airs is.
- 3:14The due date.
- 3:16Congratulations! So we're excited about that.
- 3:20And, I also have a passion business that I started, helping people get over stress and anxiety and panic attacks and increasing their productivity.
- 3:31So I'm very busy and doing a lot and, enjoying You also have a podcast and YouTube channel for financial advice as well.
- 3:41Is that correct?
- 3:42That's right.
- 3:43I am the host of the Ready to Retire Podcast.
- 3:47And we have been, I've been doing episodes for a little over a year now.
- 3:54I think I'm on episode 30 right now.
- 3:57And I've taken, the real life client experiences and the real life questions and experiences that clients have brought and broken that down to say, here's the general advice.
- 4:10Because people tend to have the similar questions or same situations.
- 4:15And so it's really, hopefully fun to listen to, but easy to understand.
- 4:19And help you get started on the path for, financial success.
- 4:25I have listened to your show or watched your show on YouTube and I must say it's a fun show I really enjoy the fact that you break it down in a language that's easy for people like me who are not experts in the financial industry to understand.
- 4:39Yeah, I think one of the biggest challenges in our industry is that we have so much lingo.
- 4:44We have so many anacronyms for things.
- 4:48You have ETFs, you have EFTs, you have IRAs, you have RIAs, which is completely different.
- 4:57RMDs, our industry just loves to put nicknames on everything, And we have a tendency, a lot of financial advisors like myself have a tendency to use that jargon when we're communicating with our clients.
- 5:12And they, just don't understand there's just too much of it.
- 5:16So I really try to remember that when I'm doing the podcast is a big part of doing the podcast, is to help break down explain what the different terms mean and the anachronism means so that you have a starting point.
- 5:30Thank you so much for doing that because it does, it makes it a lot easier to understand and make it less intimidating.
- 5:37Yeah.
- 5:37Yeah.
- 5:37I'm also writing a book for financial planning.
- 5:41That is going to be out in the spring.
- 5:44We're getting close to being done now.
- 5:47And what I'm going to talk about is creating a portfolio of activities to do in your retirement.
- 5:56If you think about having a diversified portfolio of investments, you have investments in a lot of different asset classes.
- 6:04And that's what we're going to talk about is building a portfolio of activities to do in your retirement.
- 6:11And talking about charitable, giving, maybe starting a second business, travel, spending time with family.
- 6:19And so we're going to break down seven, eight things to talk about.
- 6:24That sounds like an exciting book to read.
- 6:28What inspired you to specialize in financial planning and why did you choose to focus on assisting women in midlife?
- 6:36What inspired me to start is, two things.
- 6:40When I was in school, I was in eighth grade, we did a career study day.
- 6:46And in that career study day, they, gave us a lot of articles to read.
- 6:50And I read an article about a woman who was a certified financial planner.
- 6:55And she said she liked her job because she liked to help people.
- 6:59And she was good at math.
- 7:01And I was 12 years old, and I said, I like to help people and I'm good at math.
- 7:06So that started me on the trajectory to become a CFP.
- 7:10What, really inspired me is like my mom and dad.
- 7:15So my mom and dad had a stockbroker at Dean Witter back in the day.
- 7:22And my mom and dad also had a business.
- 7:26And the stockbroker never gave my dad planning advice.
- 7:32He would just call and recommend a stock or recommend another stock or, and sometimes my dad would buy it and sometimes he wouldn't.
- 7:40And at the end, of my dad's career, it was just such a big missed opportunity.
- 7:46My mom and dad really needed financial planning.
- 7:50And even though they were working with someone, they didn't get that.
- 7:53And you would probably not be surprised to see how many of my clients remind me of my own parents.
- 8:01And, that's how I got started in working with, particularly women in midlife.
- 8:07Because, women, statistically are going to live longer than men by seven years.
- 8:14And they're not always the primary, decision maker on the finances.
- 8:20And so the clients that I work with, I insist that the wife is either 50 percent involved or a hundred percent.
- 8:29So that means that the wife has to attend the meetings.
- 8:33And sometimes as women, we abdicate our financial, decision making to our spouses.
- 8:41And especially if we were homemakers.
- 8:44And that's to our detriment.
- 8:45And so that's why I've focused on this.
- 8:49I've literally sat and taught a woman how to balance her checkbook.
- 8:53When her husband was diagnosed with Alzheimer's, he went downhill very quickly, very, in a very short period of time.
- 9:01And I sat with her, she came in once a week with her checkbook and I sat, taught her how to balance her checkbook.
- 9:07So That's a sad story, to hear that the woman is in her mature years and is learning something that you would think she would have learned early on.
- 9:17Just sometimes, when we're married and we divide up the duties in the household, sometimes we defer to the husbands on the finances And there's nothing wrong with that as long as we stay involved, as long as we stay understanding how.
- 9:36I mean, sometimes it's the opposite.
- 9:37Sometimes the wife takes care of the finances, but regardless of which spouse, if you're married, is the primary, you need to know like where the bank accounts are, how to access them.
- 9:51I had a client once where the, husband passed away and I knew he had online accounts and there was no way to access them because nobody knew the password.
- 10:03Nobody knew the email and the wife didn't speak English very well.
- 10:08And it was a disaster.
- 10:10We ended up getting it done but it was a challenge.
- 10:13So I'm a big proponent of educating women on finances.
- 10:18Yes.
- 10:19Many women in midlife are at a pivotal point in their financial journey.
- 10:24What are the unique financial challenges and opportunities they face compared to other age groups?
- 10:31In particular, women need to save more than not only men, but depending on how much they've saved up till this point in their life.
- 10:43As you hit the mid, point years, you really need to make sure that you're saving as much as you can.
- 10:51Once you turn 50, you're eligible to make something called a catch up contribution in either an IRA or a 401k, depending on what you have.
- 11:03So really take advantage of that.
- 11:05But, in particular, If you're afraid that you haven't saved enough, now is the time that you really need to save as much as you can, because every little bit magnifies the benefit over time.
- 11:20So you said that magic number is 50.
- 11:23Does that vary state to state on how much, women or men can put into this catch up into a vehicle, like an IRA or a 401k?
- 11:34That is federal, that's universal in the U.S.
- 11:37And what is that amount?
- 11:39It changes every year.
- 11:41What about in a situation where, the woman has been a stay at home mom?
- 11:46And now she's in her fifties.
- 11:48And so she may not have a 401k because she's been at home.
- 11:53What kind of tools can she use to play that catch up game?
- 11:57Yeah, absolutely regardless of your age, and this works for the husband or the wife, for the stay at home parent, there is something called a spousal IRA.
- 12:09So if you are a stay at home parent, and your spouse is working, then as long as their income is over the amount that you contribute, they can contribute to a spousal IRA on your behalf.
- 12:23So that's a super important tool to use that's easy to use.
- 12:28And if you're again, it's a matter of communication.
- 12:32If you are married and a stay at home spouse, it's communication to where you know where the money is and how to access it.
- 12:40And you have a say in what's being put aside.
- 12:43Retirement is a significant concern for women in their forties and fifties.
- 12:48How do you approach retirement planning for demographics considering factors like longevity, health care costs and potential career breaks?
- 12:58Career breaks are a big challenge, especially for women.
- 13:02I did it myself when my kids were born.
- 13:05I took seven years.
- 13:07And worked for my dad's business, during that time.
- 13:11And when I went back to work, it was hard to go back into the workforce after having that career break.
- 13:16So it's definitely a big challenge.
- 13:20So when you're approaching, retirement planning, we have a process where we sit down and start with a discovery questionnaire.
- 13:30And we take a look at how much you're currently paying for health insurance, and we know what the national averages are for when you turn 65.
- 13:43And we look at long term care.
- 13:46We look at life insurance, and we ask all the questions about your family and your giving.
- 13:52And so our process is the first step is to do a discovery questionnaire to see where you are.
- 13:59Because there is so much.
- 14:01We could talk for hours and hours just on figuring out all the things that apply to a person.
- 14:07And once we do the discovery questionnaire, then we start building the financial plan that says, based on all the things that you told me, here's what it looks like for you.
- 14:20And the key factor that helps, by going to a financial professional is being able to build inflation into our assumptions.
- 14:30So if we think about how much did a stamp cost 30 years ago, or 40 years ago?
- 14:37Some of us remember if we're my age, our age.
- 14:41Some of us remember when a stamp was 10 cents.
- 14:44And what are they now, 65 cents?
- 14:46I think, a piece, I don't know, since they started doing forever stamps, I don't really pay attention, but, how much is something going to cost in 30 years?
- 14:56And because women are living longer than men, that's a big challenge, that's a big thing that we have to account for is longevity.
- 15:03Yeah.
- 15:04And then, I think something that I remember when I was in corporate, a lot of people would say, when I get ready to retire, I'm not going to retire in California.
- 15:11Because I live in California.
- 15:13And so they'll say, I'm not going to retire in California I'm going to go to X state and the cost of living is less.
- 15:19But what I've noticed is that used to be the situation.
- 15:23Now some of these, retirement destination points that people have chosen have now almost caught, not quite caught up to California, but are pretty close.
- 15:31They're not as less expensive as people used to think they were.
- 15:35Right, it's a huge trend.
- 15:37My practice is based in the state of Nevada.
- 15:40Which is a state with no state income tax.
- 15:44Thanks to Las Vegas and gambling that pays our state income tax.
- 15:49So a lot of people do move from California to Nevada.
- 15:53It definitely has increased the price of living in Nevada and states that don't have state income tax.
- 15:59I think there's about 10 of them.
- 16:01The population shift does happen.
- 16:04And it is a smart idea because even though it's rising, it's still a lot less.
- 16:10So if you think about someone who has a home in California, they can sell for, 1.
- 16:175 million and buy something in Nevada, similarly, that is maybe 750, 000.
- 16:25That might be twice as big than they currently had.
- 16:28And you take the other difference and invest that and generate an income from it.
- 16:33So a lot of people do still do that.
- 16:35The other big trend is, from COVID.
- 16:38So a lot of employers are allowing people to work from home and work hybrid situations.
- 16:44And a lot of people have made the move that they were thinking about doing in retirement now because their employers are allowing them to do the hybrid work situation.
- 16:55Some women in midlife might experience major life transitions such as divorce, loss of spouse.
- 17:01Sending kids to college.
- 17:03How do these events impact their financial planning and how do you guide them through it?
- 17:08Yeah, I call them life quakes.
- 17:12I heard that term a number of years ago by a woman named Deb DeLisi.
- 17:17She started the Abundant Love Project.
- 17:20Her daughter was very sick and committed suicide.
- 17:24And that is something that no one should have to go through.
- 17:29And it's hard and it's unbelievable.
- 17:32And she called it a life quake.
- 17:34And I do that in my practice.
- 17:36Every client is in four stages.
- 17:39The first stage of your life is Savvy Saver.
- 17:42The second stage is Ready to Retire, which is the name of the podcast.
- 17:47The third stage is Loving Legacy.
- 17:49Okay, so we can divide our life into those stages.
- 17:53But Lifequake, the thing that you're talking about can happen to us at any time out of nowhere.
- 17:59My cousin, died at a very young age, leaving his wife behind.
- 18:04Lifequakes can happen and when they do, the first thing you want to do is try not to make a major life decision.
- 18:14So if it can be avoided, try not to make a big change in your life when you're going through a lifequake.
- 18:22When you're going through a major life event.
- 18:26Again, sometimes there are some financial decisions that have to be made, but try to postpone as long as you can.
- 18:34Because you're in grief over the process, especially if you're going through divorce.
- 18:39I think that in our country, we don't appreciate that a person going through divorce Is still grieving and, it's such a difficult time.
- 18:50And having a financial plan in place ahead of time can help smooth through this.
- 18:58When a client, if somebody passes away, then we have a whole checklist of things that need to be done or should be done.
- 19:08And we help educate our clients they don't really have to worry about anything when they're working with us.
- 19:15Because we help them and not just me, but financial planners across the country will help the clients as they're working, and that's a huge benefit from having a plan in place.
- 19:25But the main thing is to practice self-care, take care of yourself and, recognize that you are going through something.
- 19:33It could be the loss of a job.
- 19:35It could be a loss of, a relationship, a marriage, a parent, a child.
- 19:41I had a woman recently who lost her job, her mom sold her home all in six week period of time.
- 19:50It was unbelievable! And we just, instead of meeting twice a year, we're meeting every six months.
- 19:58We're meeting every couple of weeks while she was going through all that.
- 20:02She make the decision to sell her home?
- 20:04Did she make that decision on her own or was that something that she met with you, you looked at the numbers and felt that in order to help limit some of the, lifequake that's going on.
- 20:17It was the way to kind of, keep it from sinking.
- 20:20Yeah, the decision was made prior to the other things happening.
- 20:26The plan was that when she retired, she would sell her home.
- 20:31And then she was forced into retirement and so had to then sell the home because she was forced into retirement.
- 20:40It was something that she wanted to do, but not quite yet, but we made it work.
- 20:45It wasn't the first time that I've had clients that were forced into retire that they didn't choose to retire, that they were, let go by their company and had to retire.
- 20:56So because we had the financial plan in place, we were able to guide them through that and show the impact of, okay, this is what we thought we were going to have.
- 21:04This is what we actually have.
- 21:06And this is where we're at.
- 21:07And it gives you so much, peace of mind to see the numbers in a financial plan.
- 21:13Cause we've run all these, they call it Monte Carlo analysis where you do a thousand different iterations and say, if this happened, if this happened, if this happened, And it's so nice to see your probability of success And I think a lot of people get this misconceived notion that only people with money can afford to see a financial planner.
- 21:34I'm barely making it.
- 21:35Why do I need to see a financial planner if, I'm going to be living the same kind of life that I'm living now when, I am forced to retire.
- 21:41Yeah, yeah, that's very true and even people who have accumulated some net worth, have accumulated some savings, have that mindset that maybe they have 300, 000 in a 401k and 300, 000 in equity in the house and 300, 000 in mutual funds, very quickly you're at a million dollars.
- 22:05And you don't realize, and you don't think that you need financial planning.
- 22:10So if you're struggling, of course, the first thing you want to do is stabilize.
- 22:16If you're struggling, the first thing you want to do is get rid of any debt that you have.
- 22:21Pay off your credit cards first.
- 22:24Don't continue to charge on them.
- 22:26You can rent a smaller house if that's necessary.
- 22:30If you're really struggling and can't save anything, step number one is just to make sure you're not taking on debt because that just makes matters worse.
- 22:38But once you're, past that, I just read a study 40 percent of women, social security is going to be half of their income in retirement.
- 22:47So it means that we have to come up with the other money from our savings and the more that we can save, the more that we can set aside, wherever you are in your financial journey, you can be benefited by talking to a financial advisor.
- 23:04And I know you talked about this on your show, cause I saw an episode of yours.
- 23:08I think a lot of people get this misunderstanding of what social security really is.
- 23:15What it was designed for.
- 23:18I think a lot of people depend that when I retire, I'm going to get social security.
- 23:21And that's just, from what I understand, it's supposed to be just a quarter of what you're expected to live off of.
- 23:28Because you should have the other portions set up in other vehicles.
- 23:32Yeah, that's a great question.
- 23:34So social security was, designed to start at age 65 at the time when our life expectancy was 67 years old.
- 23:44So social security was not meant to fund 30 years of retirement.
- 23:49It was only meant to be a couple of years.
- 23:52So as we are living longer, social security is just playing a smaller role.
- 24:00I mean, if that's what you have, that's what you have, but it's not enough really to live on.
- 24:06So you want to have it supplemented by your, company sponsored plans, 401ks and things like that.
- 24:14And the new legislation that's being passed, like Secure Act 1.
- 24:190 and now Secure Act 2.
- 24:200, is geared towards helping us save more into our IRAs and our 401ks and things like that.
- 24:29So Social Security, is going to be supplementing our income, but we don't want to count on it to be the entirety.
- 24:37And also, a lot of people are afraid that social security isn't going to exist.
- 24:42And the chances of that are really, really, really low.
- 24:47So I can't say never, but really, really low.
- 24:52What it seems that's going to happen is that the taxes on the income are going to increase and maybe benefits will get reduced in the future.
- 25:02But if you are a woman in midlife right now, you are probably going to be okay.
- 25:08What your social security statement estimate says is probably pretty accurate.
- 25:14And what I'm talking about is you can go online to mysocialsecurity.
- 25:19gov and download your personal earning statement and get an estimate of what your social security is going to be.
- 25:26So if you haven't done that's free.
- 25:28It's a free resource.
- 25:30I would highly recommend going online and I'll give Carmen the link.
- 25:34Investment strategies can be overwhelming.
- 25:37What tailored advice do you have for women in midlife when it comes to investing and growing their wealth?
- 25:44The main strategy for investing, is to work with an advisor that can help you.
- 25:51But the strategy that we like to use is asset allocation.
- 25:55I do something called dynamic asset allocation.
- 25:59So we're looking at all the different sectors of the market.
- 26:02We're looking at size of companies we're investing.
- 26:06And we do all of the choices for a client.
- 26:11So if you are not working with an advisor, there are a lot of online apps and services that you can use that can help you do it.
- 26:20But you want to think about diversification and asset allocation.
- 26:25And the real key is regularly adding to your account.
- 26:31If you have 100 a month going into a savings program, then every six months, increase that to $200, increase it to $300.
- 26:42Every time you have a birthday, increase it by 1%.
- 26:46If you're at 8%, go to 9%.
- 26:49Always pay yourself first, always put your savings first and everything will work So it's almost as if it was a bill.
- 26:58Consider it a bill.
- 26:59And so you're always paying into this bill, but in essence, you're actually paying into the Carmen retirement bill.
- 27:06Yeah, yeah.
- 27:07For women, we recommend between 12 and 14 percent of their net pay.
- 27:13And it fits so easy to look at if your net paycheck is five hundred dollars, then 10 percent is fifty dollars.
- 27:22So if you have an automatic savings account set up, a lot of times you can have your employer withdraw 12 percent and put it in a savings.
- 27:34And if you're putting money into your 401k, that's great.
- 27:38Well, you know, some people might say, a savings account is only giving me, I don't know I haven't looked at the bank numbers, but it's very minimal.
- 27:46And so they might turn around and say, if I'm putting, let's say the 50 amount that you initially had brought up, if they're putting in 50 and they're like, what the bank's only paying me, let's say 1% that is not much.
- 27:59So it might be a little bit discouraging for some people because they look at the short term as opposed to the long term.
- 28:06How do you get people to think differently?
- 28:08Yeah, that's a great point.
- 28:10So depending on where you are, the first bucket of savings that you want to create for yourself is an emergency savings account.
- 28:19In my podcast, I call it an adventure fund.
- 28:23We, hope that you get to use that money to travel or to do something fun with.
- 28:29So put money aside into an account that if something unexpected happens, like your car breaks down, or, you had an, increase in a bill that you just weren't expecting.
- 28:41If you have a couple of thousand dollars set aside to pay that bill to where you don't have to borrow, you don't have to charge it, then that just sets you up for success in the long term.
- 28:54And that money should be invested in a savings account.
- 28:58And it doesn't matter how much it's earning because you're not really trying to invest that money.
- 29:04You need to have access to it.
- 29:07The money that you put in for retirement or for long term savings, that money is going to get invested.
- 29:14So for your longer term savings, if you go to a financial advisor, they're going to build a diverse portfolio of like mutual funds for you.
- 29:24So if you're saving up money for a down payment for a house, for example, or you're going to purchase a car, that money should go in the savings account.
- 29:33And it's okay that the interest rate is lower.
- 29:37Because you're also not taking any risk.
- 29:40But depending on the timing, you want to make sure that you're investing money that you're not planning on touching for a long time, at least three So basically what you're saying is that, start to build your little fun account and then once you are ready to move it to the next step, visit a financial planner so that they can design a plan that will help meet your needs for the future.
- 30:05For that future in retirement.
- 30:07Did I hear that correctly?
- 30:08Yes.
- 30:09Yes.
- 30:10With the gender gap in pay and other economic disparities, women face unique financial challenges.
- 30:17How do you address these in your financial planning approach?
- 30:21It goes back to what we talked about a little bit ago, women do have to save more.
- 30:26And it's not only that we live longer, but it's also because of the gender pay gap that exists.
- 30:35It not only exists, across the board, but for minorities and women, diverse women, it's even worse.
- 30:43So you really have to pay attention to how much your savings is relative to your income, to help address that.
- 30:51But it's a huge issue.
- 30:53Can you tell us about any specialized programs or resources you offer specifically for women in midlife?
- 31:01What we've started recently is a membership program.
- 31:06And in our membership program, what we're allowing people to do is to aggregate all of their accounts online so that you can see all of your holdings in one place.
- 31:21So if you have a 401k at your work and if you have an IRA somewhere.
- 31:27And if you have a checking account and a savings account and a credit card all of those numbers can be aggregated in one place.
- 31:35We're also giving an online document storage vault so you can safely load up all of your important documents like your trust or your driver's license or copies of your credit cards.
- 31:49And then if you travel and something happens, all you need is internet access to be able to access them securely.
- 31:56The other thing we're giving with our membership is access to me.
- 32:01You can ask a CFP a question and a CFP will respond.
- 32:07It will either be me or someone on my staff, but your response will be by a CFP.
- 32:13And the other thing we're giving is access to Right Capital Financial Planning software.
- 32:19So you can actually go in and start to build your own financial plan.
- 32:24And the cost is $49 a month.
- 32:28And you can start and stop at any time.
- 32:31Is so cool because you get a bird's eye view of everything.
- 32:35And if you are a married couple, you don't have to worry about, I don't have the password.
- 32:41I think my husband had an account with Merrill or Edward Jones, but I don't have the password and I don't have the account number.
- 32:48You know, should anything happen and he's no longer here., That hurdle is done.
- 32:52It's over with.
- 32:54Yeah.
- 32:54you have to know how all your accounts are titled.
- 32:56That's an important thing.
- 32:58I told, another financial advisor, friend of mine, what I was doing, what I was offering here, and he said, you should really be charging like six thousand dollars a year for that.
- 33:09He goes, I don't think you're charging enough.
- 33:11And I said, I want people who are getting their things in order, getting their, stuff in order as a starting point.
- 33:17That's what we're offering.
- 33:18I think this is a good thing because, the couple or the single woman in midlife, she can predict when she can retire and what her retirement life is going to look like financially.
- 33:30And if there's some uncertainty, they can always contact you, CFP, Certified Financial Planner, and get the correct answer.
- 33:38Not have to guess or ask a friend who's not a Certified Financial Planner.
- 33:43Yeah.
- 33:43I just read an article this morning and it talks about people getting financial advice, from other people like coworkers and family members and things.
- 33:53And I remember one time a client passed away, her son inherited an IRA.
- 34:00And he called in to cash it in, okay.
- 34:03Very typical conversation.
- 34:05But he started talking about his boss and this investment strategy that his boss was having him put together.
- 34:13And I said, oh, I didn't realize your boss was a Financial Planner, And he goes, no, he's not.
- 34:17I'm an iron worker.
- 34:19And I was like, Oh my gosh.
- 34:21So he withdrew all the money from the IRA, which when you take money out of an IRA, then it gets added to your ordinary income.
- 34:29So he created this huge tax liability for himself, to do this strategy that his iron worker boss recommended.
- 34:36So nothing against iron workers.
- 34:38It's a great profession, but But they don't give the best financial advice.
- 34:41Yeah, yeah.
- 34:42is first class.
- 34:44Yeah, and it's funny that you say that because, I'm in a Facebook group with other people that work for the same company that I used to work for.
- 34:51And, every now and then you hear people say, " Hey, I hit that magic number.
- 34:55I'm getting ready to retire.
- 34:57What are the benefits we get?" And what I think is interesting is that the company I work for, depending on when you started with them, there's different packages that you get.
- 35:06And, of course I didn't end up getting that magic package.
- 35:10I ended up in the middle package, but not the same package as some of the other people to get that's not very good.
- 35:15But I think it's funny that they're asking other retirees, what am I going to get?
- 35:20How do I get, what should I wait?
- 35:22And some people say, if you're 55 or if you're 65, don't cash it in.
- 35:26Wait till you're the best time to cash it in and they'll throw a number out there and I'm like looking at this saying, Oh my goodness, these are all just regular employees like me, or some of them were corporate employees, up higher up, in the VP area.
- 35:39But I'm like, they're giving advice and this person is asking for advice from other coworkers.
- 35:44Yeah.
- 35:45yeah.
- 35:45Right, it's one of the most common thing that happens in our country, is that we ask advice from our friends.
- 35:51Because we don't know.
- 35:53We're not taught this in school.
- 35:55This is, maybe more so now, my kids are a little bit older, they were not taught good financial planning principles in school.
- 36:04And I think that's the big driver for me doing the Ready to Retire podcast is to teach this material.
- 36:11Because your friend is answering the question based on their own experience, which is one off.
- 36:18And you often won't get the right answer and how it pertains to you.
- 36:24And I have an example I work with a lot of state employees, in the state of Nevada, where our office is in the state capital of Nevada.
- 36:33And so I have a lot of employees that are in the PERS program, and that affects your social security in different ways.
- 36:41It's called the Windfall Elimination Program.
- 36:44So I had one client who was getting ready to retire and she was able to retire early.
- 36:51And her coworkers gave her so much grief because she was leaving about a hundred dollars on the table by not working for six more months.
- 37:02And they just gave her so much grief.
- 37:03And It was like peer pressure, right?
- 37:06And I was like, if your financial plan is within six months, we don't build it within a hundred dollar variance, right?
- 37:13You're going to be fine based on all the other things she had going on in her life.
- 37:17Her own personal savings was really substantial.
- 37:20She had inherited a little bit of money.
- 37:22She's going to inherit a little bit more money down the road.
- 37:24And she had family situations.
- 37:27So she had a wedding that was coming up and all those things.
- 37:30And just remember how much pressure her coworkers gave on the financial advice.
- 37:36Like shaming her that she was retiring early.
- 37:40Crazy.
- 37:41For those feeling uncertain or overwhelmed about their financial future, what words of encouragement or actionable advice can you offer?
- 37:51If you're feeling uncertain and if you're feeling overwhelmed, I would highly encourage you to talk to a financial planner first.
- 38:01I can't tell you how many times people have come into my office completely unsure, not even knowing what their net worth is.
- 38:09And at the end of our discovery meeting, starting to get that confidence back.
- 38:15So I think that the lack of confidence comes from a lack of knowledge.
- 38:20So you don't know where you're at.
- 38:22So figuring out.
- 38:24Making a balance sheet would be the first thing.
- 38:27So take a list and list all of your assets, list all of your income sources.
- 38:34And we have a free resource.
- 38:36I will give Carmen the link to, we have a free resource called three steps to planning an Epic retirement.
- 38:43And it's a checklist of putting these documents together.
- 38:47But you want to look at your income, your expenses, your assets, your liabilities, and your life insurance.
- 38:55And start there as a starting point.
- 38:57And make sure you know what you have going on in all those different categories.
- 39:02And then if you take that document that you can download for free from us, take that document to a financial planner or a financial advisor and that's a great starting point for them to help you make sure you're on track.
- 39:17Cause everybody's on track to some extent.
- 39:20It's never as bad as what we think.
- 39:23It's the unknown that scares us.
- 39:25So lift the sheets, turn the lights on, look under the covers and see where you're at.
- 39:31Lastly, for viewers that are interested in seeking your expertise, how can they connect with you or learn more about your services?
- 39:39If anyone wants to get together, we do a free complimentary initial call that will last anywhere from 30 to 60 minutes, depending on how much we enjoy talking to each other.
- 39:51Cause frankly, we become friends.
- 39:53If you want to work with, our firm, then we're going to become friends that's just how it is.
- 39:58So we have a free initial call.
- 40:01So you can find out more on our website at, trunorthwealth.Com.
- 40:07It's T R U, the word north, the word wealth.
- 40:11com.
- 40:12And Carmen, I'll give you my linktree and stuff to put in the show notes.
- 40:16And what about your membership?
- 40:18On your website is there information about your membership program there too?
- 40:21There will be, there isn't today.
- 40:24So if you're interested in the membership, just call or email.
- 40:27Alright and I will include your email address, your contact information, all of that in the show notes.
- 40:33Great.
- 40:34Thank you so much for sharing your insights, your expertise.
- 40:39And I thank you so much for your dedication to helping women in midlife figure out what their next act is going to look like.
- 40:48Yeah.
- 40:49Yeah.
- 40:49there's so much possibility.
- 40:51There's so much fun.
- 40:52And it's a matter of just diving in and taking a look at it and just getting started, just make that first phone call You don't know what you don't know, and I'm a firm believer in that.
- 41:03I don't know what I don't know.
- 41:05And a financial advisor can help in so many ways.
- 41:09Thank you so much for coming on.
- 41:10Thank you so much for having me.
- 41:12It's been so much fun.
- 41:13And that wraps up our insightful conversation.
- 41:16Today, Danette shared her expert perspective on why it's crucial for women to be more proactive in saving for retirement, especially considering the longevity of women compared to men.
- 41:32Highlighting the importance of involvement in financial matters, Danette emphasizes the need for women to be present and engaged in at least half of the financial planning meetings.
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- 43:00Join me next week as we will explore the topic of navigating life after the kids have flown the nest.
- 43:06You won't want to miss the practical advice we have in store.
- 43:10Until then, keep dreaming big, take care of yourself, and remember, you are beautiful, strong, and capable of creating the best version of yourself.
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