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Cowboys vs Eagles NFL DFS Showdown | MNF Week 7 Showdown Shippers | Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear for lift off. Lift off.
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamblyn here, a.k.a.
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  Speaker 4: Toe Tagging Tambo, back for another edition of Showdown Shippers.
• 0:40
  Speaker 4: Here on the Shipping Nation YouTube station, we got Monday
• 0:42
  Speaker 4: Night Football, Cowboys versus the Eagles. Some big injuries, but
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  Speaker 4: we got title. We got hoop back here with me.
• 0:50
  Speaker 4: got to bring in title first man we didn't get
• 0:52
  Speaker 4: to catch on this one yesterday there was too many
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  Speaker 4: pollard jokes and different things going around but by the
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  Speaker 4: way congrats on the the huge call on pollard that
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  Speaker 4: was a good one a lot of people were saying.
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  Speaker 3: Hey you guys were shitting on him no ham was shitting.
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  Speaker 4: On him in the chat but title had him covered
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  Speaker 4: but you're back you got the ceiling fan above your
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  Speaker 4: head and only the real ones caught up to that
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  Speaker 4: yesterday what's going on man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah pop stoner at the end shout out to him
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  Speaker 2: uh the bit that many probably know about uh i
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: was back there dusting it off uh I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how he saw it to this day, but yeah, Tony Pollard.
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  Speaker 2: And I was, damn, don't, don't you think I'm not listening?
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  Speaker 2: I listened here with you and Nades and the afternoon
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday and you doubled down talking about how it
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: was a bad play. I mean, 4% ownership that, uh, yeah,
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: results oriented, whatever it may be, but at ownership and
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  Speaker 2: how the slate was, that's probably the best play of
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  Speaker 2: the year when it all, when it's all said and done.
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  Speaker 2: So Taji Spears in or out, people didn't adjust enough.
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  Speaker 2: Fan duel, it did catch up, but yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you just know it's sharp when 4% own in the million,
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  Speaker 2: then it's, 12% to 13% in higher stakes stuff and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that. So, I mean, I like the play.
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  Speaker 2: I bumped him a lot. I still didn't win that much, though.
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  Speaker 2: I was close in a couple spots. But you, Tambo,
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: congrats to you. I mean, it definitely is a congrats.
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  Speaker 2: You got paid handsomely and you're happy. Obviously, it always
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: could be better. But, yeah, enjoy the sweat. You did
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: enjoy the sweat you had. You got paid. You got
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  Speaker 2: a King of the Desert ticket. Hopefully, you can parlay
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  Speaker 2: that into a little cheese.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little momentum. Week seven winning stays on point.
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  Speaker 4: We got the main event coming up this week. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: it'll be good there. But, you know, a couple of notes.
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell Hoop the story. We're all dads now.
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  Speaker 3: It's a fun one.
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  Speaker 4: I told before, but Coach Sam, the intro starting still counts.
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  Speaker 3: You're earlier on time. You're on time. You're late.
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  Speaker 4: How you do one thing is how you do everything. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: we do start our shows on time over here. So
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  Speaker 4: if you guys do want to do us a favor,
• 2:38
  Speaker 4: hit the thumbs up, subscribe to the channel. But Hoop,
• 2:40
  Speaker 4: the sweat was fun. I mean, we're just on takedown breakdown.
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  Speaker 4: I'll talk about it quickly. But My little guy is
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  Speaker 4: six and everyone was there.
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  Speaker 3: My wife was there.
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  Speaker 4: My daughter, everyone's involved. We know what we need. Number 14, Amun-Ra, like,
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  Speaker 4: where is he dad? And like on the field, I'm
• 2:53
  Speaker 4: circling him on the screen. I mean, he's like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: we're following this guy around. And every time Amun-Ra catches
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  Speaker 4: it for a first, He does like the sneaky popper
• 3:02
  Speaker 4: and then points first down. And so he does the
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  Speaker 4: little sneaky hands thing first. And J-Mo does like this
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  Speaker 4: one and then a little one like that.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like he knew the difference.
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  Speaker 4: But my little guy is on there as we're sweating,
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  Speaker 4: not knowing anything about like a million bucks up top
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  Speaker 4: or worried about any of that stuff. It's so cool
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  Speaker 4: just to think about different perspectives. But we were doing that.
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  Speaker 4: He was doing the Amun-Ra first down little thing. And
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  Speaker 4: then this morning, it's always tough. Like Title said, paid good.
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  Speaker 4: I'm back here on a Monday talking about football.
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  Speaker 3: Love all you guys. Appreciate the support. It's great life.
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  Speaker 4: But him in the window, in the vehicle, getting driven
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  Speaker 4: to school, and he's in the window doing this with
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  Speaker 4: his dad as he's getting driven to school, that's the
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  Speaker 4: cool stuff.
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  Speaker 2: That's the stuff you can't really put on.
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  Speaker 3: Paper or put a value to. That's just amazing. So
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  Speaker 3: I know you'll appreciate Hoop.
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  Speaker 4: You've been a dad longer than both Title and myself
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  Speaker 4: on here, and you've got the kids doing all kinds
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  Speaker 4: of fun stuff too.
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  Speaker 3: But it's like that's really what it's all about.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. And now I'm just thinking of him
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  Speaker 1: getting all the classmates at recess doing the.
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  Speaker 5: Same thing, get the whole crew going. It could be
• 4:01
  Speaker 5: a new thing, a new trend for the kids. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: they always come up with new things. Maybe that got
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  Speaker 5: it started, you know. It would be the– yeah, the
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  Speaker 5: new 6-7.
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  Speaker 2: The new 6-7. After the fall start, did you– or
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  Speaker 2: the offsides on the defense when Amon Ra was hitting
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  Speaker 2: them with the whole offense, did your son do that
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  Speaker 2: one too?
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  Speaker 4: No. The problem was he didn't do the dance and
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  Speaker 4: copy him, but he was celebrating that.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, you didn't want it.
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  Speaker 4: That could happen to me on.
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  Speaker 1: Third.
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  Speaker 3: They actually throw the ball here and it could be
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  Speaker 3: a hundred K skill.
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  Speaker 4: At least I was blocked the first at that point.
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  Speaker 4: It was the last couple of plays of the game, obviously,
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  Speaker 4: but just noting it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's still a fun day on sweat. Got the king
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  Speaker 3: of the desert seat.
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  Speaker 4: Just posted this weekend about it's been 10 years almost
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  Speaker 4: since my first ever live final at king of the
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  Speaker 4: beach to pick up a king of the desert seat
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  Speaker 4: with a shot to fight my way into that one.
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  Speaker 3: It's another online, get your way there. But, A lot
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  Speaker 3: of fun.
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  Speaker 4: Hoop, I saw you finish. You and Hebrew, by the way,
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  Speaker 4: our man Rio, did you get your ticket? You guys
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  Speaker 4: finished in the top six.
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  Speaker 1: For the– I didn't even realize. I had no idea
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  Speaker 1: what you were talking about until the show. And then
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  Speaker 1: I looked it up, and I saw me and Rio
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  Speaker 1: at the top of the DraftKings thing. So, yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: finished fifth and sixth. Yeah, you just got a ticket
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  Speaker 1: put in my account. I literally had no idea.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't either.
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  Speaker 1: What it was about. Then I looked it up after
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  Speaker 1: the show. I was like, oh, that's pretty sweet. Because
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  Speaker 1: I think first would have been like, there's 10k or
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  Speaker 1: something that'd be nice but i'll take the 1500 ticket
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  Speaker 1: but uh yeah congrats to you for sure uh it's
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: always a fun sweat and uh you know like we're
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: talking about pre-show it's like you don't expect to win
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: it when you get up there you hope you win
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  Speaker 1: it but like the worst case scenario is getting all
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: the way up there and then coming down and down
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  Speaker 1: and down and getting outside of that top 10 where
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: you're only getting like 2500 like the key is if
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: you got that sweat stay up there a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like a nice payout and you stayed up
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  Speaker 1: there enough to get the next count. So that was,
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  Speaker 1: that was huge. And I've got nades in here, man.
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  Speaker 1: This guy, as soon as Pollard and Buckingham's gone off,
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  Speaker 1: sending me messages and just like a rookie, that was
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  Speaker 1: the rookie move I've seen. Oh, you said something bad
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  Speaker 1: about a guy and he's going off and he tags
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  Speaker 1: me like, man, that was, that was rookie, rookie trash.
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: The funny part about that whole story is, It's all
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  Speaker 1: comes full circle because they're like, all right, I got
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  Speaker 1: to look up. Cause I played. So I did have
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  Speaker 1: some power. So I looked it up and he was what,
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  Speaker 1: like four, four and a half percent or something or
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  Speaker 1: whatever it was. I was overweight Pollard. I had 6%
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: Pollard in my one 50. So after shitting on him,
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  Speaker 1: after shitting on him and building my lineups, I was
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  Speaker 1: overweight Pollard. I didn't put any men max or anything
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  Speaker 1: in there. I just got some Pollard and I was
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: over the field. Cause when he was going off, I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this fucking sucks because I know I barely have any.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I barely have any. And then I look
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  Speaker 1: it up and I had some. I didn't have a
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: good day, obviously. But, yeah, I was overweight, pollard. And
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  Speaker 1: that was a good call. I mean, definitely a good call.
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  Speaker 1: And you can't get them all right. If I got
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  Speaker 1: them all right, if I got all my calls right,
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  Speaker 1: I would not be on here doing shows because I'd
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  Speaker 1: be sitting back just printing money and not telling anyone
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  Speaker 1: who I liked or who I was going to play.
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  Speaker 1: And that's not the case. I mean, yeah, I've had
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: some good calls. I've had some bad calls. Yesterday on
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  Speaker 1: the Pollard situation, I was wrong. Take the L on that. Title,
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  Speaker 1: you were right. And then Tambo seemed like you were
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  Speaker 1: interested as well. So you guys were both right. I
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  Speaker 1: was wrong. I will take the L.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Tambo didn't even want it in hindsight. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: He was kind of coming my way a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: It was cool that, no, he said that result. I
• 7:30
  Speaker 4: was like when we land there. But what's crazy about
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  Speaker 4: is I had the highest one without Pollard.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And Pollard actually fit it as a run back. There's like, again,
• 7:38
  Speaker 4: it's an optimizer guys. There's a perfect two V two
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  Speaker 4: where you can just swap Braylon Allen and Fannin for
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  Speaker 4: the run back Pollard and craft. Who's a secondary stack
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  Speaker 4: with almond raw and then boom, you win the Millie.
• 7:51
  Speaker 4: But again, davis allen scored two touchdowns kyron could have
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  Speaker 4: got in 1-800 eddie wins um if it's uh davis
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  Speaker 4: allen it's not him and it's parkinson the guy that
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  Speaker 4: won the millie could add two more touchdowns go his
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  Speaker 4: way or something you just you never know how it's
• 8:04
  Speaker 4: going to shake out hoop made the point there that
• 8:05
  Speaker 4: was so critical and coming from someone who's actually won
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  Speaker 4: the millie maker and knows about that sweat is is
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  Speaker 4: hoop is that it's the thing when you're up there
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  Speaker 4: you don't know what's going to happen you're just hoping
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  Speaker 4: that you win but man the fall is very quick
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  Speaker 4: It's not like, you know, a fall from the top
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  Speaker 4: of a building.
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  Speaker 3: It feels like it, but guess what? It's like, you're
• 8:24
  Speaker 3: at the top and you hit.
• 8:25
  Speaker 4: The ground immediately because it only takes like three or
• 8:27
  Speaker 4: four places and you're going from 50 or a hundred
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  Speaker 4: K down to like 500 bucks.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like that, you don't get much time to fall.
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  Speaker 3: So you do not want to explain.
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: It's hard to explain to people too. Cause you know,
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: if you're watching with family or friends or, you know,
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: the wife and kids are on, Oh, we got, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we got to sweat today. We're in it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in the running for the Millie. And then the slate's
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: over like, oh, did you win? No. Oh, but you
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: must have done all right. No, I actually still ended
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: up losing money because no one understands that. They assume
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: like if you have a chance to win a million.
• 8:56
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe you don't get the million. You're still win
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  Speaker 1: two hundred thousand or a hundred thousand. They don't realize
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: it goes down very, very fast. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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• 9:09
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• 9:10
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• 9:13
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• 9:15
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• 9:18
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• 9:21
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• 9:24
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 9:24
  Speaker 4: Hoop grand scheme overview for this one. We've got the
• 9:26
  Speaker 4: Cowboys versus the Eagles. The Eagles have a lot of injuries,
• 9:31
  Speaker 4: but it does seem like we got Barkley good to
• 9:33
  Speaker 4: roll back into the mix. I think he's still tagged
• 9:35
  Speaker 4: Q tag, but all expectations are that he's going to
• 9:37
  Speaker 4: go here. So let's talk about this game as a
• 9:40
  Speaker 4: whole first, and then we'll get into the captains. We'll
• 9:43
  Speaker 4: talk about roster composition, construction, different tournaments you're playing in
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: position by position, and then we'll round it out with
• 9:49
  Speaker 4: some fan duel, but give us your thoughts here first.
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  Speaker 6: Just the initial thoughts, just like thinking through it, like Dallas,
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  Speaker 6: just what a pathetic team really just in in general
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  Speaker 6: it's like you're in a division with like all dead
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  Speaker 6: quarterbacks like and you know no not joking around about
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  Speaker 6: the Jalen Hurst thing because that is very serious but
• 10:06
  Speaker 6: they're all essentially injured uh you know Giants lose Dart
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  Speaker 6: uh the Eagles obviously lose Jalen Hurst and uh Jaden
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  Speaker 6: Daniels basically his arm fell off but now he's back.
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  Speaker 1: To playing And like, they just can't pull away with it.
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  Speaker 1: You lose at home to Tampa. Now you have the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles without their quarterback, without their wide receiver one, trading
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  Speaker 1: one of their offensive linemen retiring, trading away the other guy,
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  Speaker 1: only four and a half point favorites. Like it just
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  Speaker 1: shows you how pathetic really the Cowboys are. And Saquon
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: Barkley dinged up too. I didn't add that in there.
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  Speaker 1: Only four and a half point favorites. And the one
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: thing you know for sure, like just the initial thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's going to be Dallas heavy in the captain,
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: like very heavy in the captain. Like there's just no
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  Speaker 1: doubt about that. It's tough to make a case for
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: the Eagles captains tonight, but I do think the interesting
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: dynamic of this slate is just how bad the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: defense is bad. It's how, how bad it's been ranks
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  Speaker 1: statistically like the worst in the NFL. I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: Lions were up there. They've kind of turned around the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of games. Dallas has to be way, way
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  Speaker 1: up there. So like, if they can get anything going,
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: like they will probably have success offensively, but you know,
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: all the ownership is going to be going to the
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: Cowboys up top. All their main, their main four guys
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  Speaker 1: are the four highest zone captains on the slate, CD, Dak, Pickens,
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  Speaker 1: and Javante Williams. And I think the reason is a
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: lot of people are just having a hard time figuring out, okay,
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  Speaker 1: if I do play a Philadelphia guy up top, who
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: is it? You know, they have cheap wide receivers out there.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: They have, saquon who's injured and they have a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: who's just not very good so that's the main initial
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  Speaker 1: takeaway for me at least is uh you know it's
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: only a four and a half point spread but everyone
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  Speaker 1: just wants to load up on dallas here so uh
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: you know curious to talk through this with you guys
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  Speaker 1: and and you know see what we can find yeah.
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: I gotta ask you title here that's a you know
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: the usual from hoopster we get a great breakdown but
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: i want to talk quickly just about let me just
• 12:12
  Speaker 4: make sure on something here one second.
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  Speaker 3: We got you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I hate.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: You're good.
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: All right. Apologies guys. We'll get it all solved here
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  Speaker 4: for you here quickly. Just give me a second.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: What is the. Might not work. You're good. Yeah, I'm good.
• 12:33
  Speaker 4: Okay, so I was kicking it to you.
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  Speaker 1: My bad.
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  Speaker 4: I'll repeat it just so we're good. But the thing
• 12:37
  Speaker 4: I got to ask you, Hoop just broke it all down.
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  Speaker 4: We're not getting a better breakdown than that. But I
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: think just in general from the DFS side of things here,
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: we know it's going to be Dallas heavy, especially at
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: the captain. But the price of these Eagles... Like you're
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: talking about wide receiver one is $ 3, 800 in the flex.
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: And again, we're going to talk about captains and all
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  Speaker 4: that in a second. Just in general though, is what
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: are you seeing from that perspective? Roster construction, composition, what
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: sort of setup are you expecting to see here tonight?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's one of the more unique slates
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  Speaker 2: in the sense of you see Dallas has four and
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  Speaker 2: a half point favorites in the big names and you
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  Speaker 2: would expect it to be Dallas heavy, but I actually
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: don't at the captain of for sure will, but because
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: of all the value is really on the Eagle side
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: with so many injuries, I actually think you might see
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: 3-3 is going to be popular, but 4-2 Eagles might
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  Speaker 2: be more popular than 4-2 Dallas. And again, it's going
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: to be plenty of 2-4s and people are going to
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: play the Cowboys stuff up top. But yeah, when your
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: wide receiver wants $ 3, 800 and no one's priced above 10K,
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  Speaker 2: then you go to the Dallas side, CeeDee Lamb, Pickens, Javante, Dak,
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: they're all just so highly priced, and it's so concentrated
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: to their side where you're going to see the spend-ups,
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  Speaker 2: probably on average two of them on the Dallas side,
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: and then you're going to get more middling stuff, and
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: everyone's going to go to the Eagles for value. So
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: 2-4 is going to be as popular as ever, 3-3,
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  Speaker 2: and even 4-2 Eagles. But again, a lot of those
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: teams will have a Seedy, a Pickens, Javante, Dak at captain.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it's a pretty unique slate. If you
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: play 4-2 Cowboys, 5-1 Cowboys, that's actually going to be
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: relatively– different especially 5-1 Cowboys which again you don't see
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: as much when you're talking about favorites and four and
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: a half point favorites.
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah hoop I'll kick it over to you I agree
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: with a lot of that stuff too and so I'll
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: let you start with the captain's hoop I just want
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: to um you know preface it like obviously it's going
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: to be heavy Dallas so people can get ready for
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: it but you can take it away first and see
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: what you're seeing and then give us your thoughts yeah I.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Mean that's it's difficult to make the case for any
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: of these Eagles guys I mean and like the Dallas
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: guys are obvious CD lamb, Dak Pickens, Javante Williams. And
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: if you're playing one 50, you're probably getting exposure to
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: all those guys in some way, shape or form or weight. Yeah.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: So in some form, you're going to have some exposure
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: to all those Dallas guys, most likely. Now, who else
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: can you make a case for on the Dallas side?
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: I guess, you know, if you want, you know, maybe
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson or something, but I don't really like that
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: all that much. So I'm sticking with those four Dallas guys.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: And then after that, it's like, okay, again, back to
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: that same point. Who can we envision? Because you're probably
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: going to need the highest. I'm viewing today's slate as
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: you're probably going to need the highest scoring guy up top.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: So who on the Eagles side could be the highest
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: scoring guy? Could it be Saquon? Maybe, but he is
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: coming with ownership. He's the one guy that if someone's
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: playing in Eagles cap, then he's the one that people
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: are going to. We're showing 10%, which probably is the case.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's because people love Saquon. I think
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: it's because They're like, you know, we need something on
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: the Eagle side to kind of balance this out a
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: little bit. And it's a good matchup because Dallas' defense
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: is so bad. But, man, the Eagles really struggled to
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: move the ball last week. They got a little bit
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: going at the end. So, I don't know. Goddard, I'm
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: struggling with it, to be honest with you guys. Like,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: I'm good with those Dallas guys. But when I start
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: to look for Eagles guys I want to play, it's
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: tough to make the case. And I think roster construction
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: does end up, you know, like title kind of alluded to,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: being pretty common where you're going to see Dallas guys
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: up top, probably one more expensive Dallas guy in the flex,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: and then just a bunch of Philadelphia guys in the
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: flex to go along with that sort of lineup. So,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: you know, I'd probably rank them CD, Williams, Pickens, Dak maybe,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: but you know, I guess the one thing for sure, we're,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: we're showing Dak and CD to have way more ownership,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: almost double the ownership that Pickens and Javante Williams, uh, will,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: will have. So maybe you kind of flip that. That's
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: something you can do, but I don't know. I, I
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: kind of struggle with these Philly guys like, uh, Barkley's
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: the most obvious one, but there is some ownership coming
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: along with it. Goddard is getting some ownership, uh, as well.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: No one really wants to play the cheap guys, Lemon
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: or Cooper. So, um, I don't know. It could be
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: a slate where I just play those Dallas guys and
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: try to do something different in the flux.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So now I'm putting some stuff together here and
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: then just take it in both of your guys' stuff
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: to give some thoughts and I'll kick it over to
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: title for his, but man, it's like, I'm half tempted
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: just to put all these Dallas captains and just five, one, everything,
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: because it's like every, the way that you build, I
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: was just messing around with the stone 2.0 at ship
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: a nation just to look quickly at like some of
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: these five, one builds. It's like, it almost always has
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: to land you. for the people that want to be
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: very comfortable, it almost has to land you on a four,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: two or a three, three.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Like it's like, you, Oh, I don't know.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: No one's here for me to land on. I don't
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: want to drop all the way down to Makai lemon.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: So I'll just play two of these guys instead from
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: this side or whatever it might be. So that's going
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: to be interesting tonight, because if you are playing a
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: popular captain, you could still get overweight on them. They're
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: all going to, I mean, even if CD and Dak
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: end up at the 18%, you can play 25 of each.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: If you want it, you can do whatever you want
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: and still get different, you know, in other places, if
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: you skip on the other side. But if you do
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: mostly five ones, you are going to get a lot
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: of lineups that just leave a lot of money. And
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: that's what it's going to look like.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: So I don't know, title.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: I think that's kind of interesting before I hear your
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: thoughts on captain. I'll think about other things, but that
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: is a first starting point for me is it looks
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: like most lineups are going to be four to Dallas.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: But three threes and whatnot.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Let me hop in real quick just because I, you know.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Brought us back to old, for old time's sake, got
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: us with the dry run, just projections, just ran it
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: just to see like what came out. And it was
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: 47% 3-3. So basically half the Linus were 3-3 and
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: then 30% were 4-2 in favor of the Eagles. And
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: then another 20% were Dallas 4 in favor of Dallas
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: 4-2 and not many 5-1s on either side. So 3-3s,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: about 50%. 4-2 in favor of the Eagles, about 30%.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: And then 4-2 in favor of the Cowboys, about 20%.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: And if you look at your 4-2 Eagles, I bet
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: you 95% plus have two of the Dallas Spens pickings
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: and above, right?
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: It is basically.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Like there's no Flornay, there's no Ferguson. It's going to
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: be two of CD pickings, Dak. It's the really common build. Again,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: when your wide receiver wants 3,800 on the other side,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: That's where your value is going to go. But it
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: is worth noting, like, Turpin isn't going to play today.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: So there is some value. It's just not as secure.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: But there is some value on the Dallas side, too,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: that these guys back up tight ends, the span forward, schoonmakers.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I think defenses are interesting. But, yeah, it's really clear
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: that the spends are going to come from the Cowboys side.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: the guy, the Cowboys side. Yeah. It's hard for me
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: to make a case.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: It's urban news. It's hard for me to make a
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: case for the Eagles captains to just talk about it myself.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Like I think there's enough ways you can get different
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: in the flex. And I do think five, one Cowboys
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: is very interesting on this slate. And a lot of
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: my five, one Cowboys, I have a lot of interest
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: in Cowboys defense and, In those builds, kind of what
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: we saw yesterday too, when it fully gets there, the
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: defense is usually playing a big part. But yeah, how
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I'd rank captains, CeeDee's by far number one for me. Yes,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: he'll probably be the highest zone, but anyone that can
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: get like 20 targets. Not too long ago, we saw
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: in the Texans game, but it's clear. It feels like
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: CeeDee separated more from Pickens than I initially thought this year.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Still like Pickens, but I think he would be below
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Javante for me. Javante is the only one that's favored
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: to score a touchdown in this game at minus 165.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Saquon's second at plus 100, and if you do think
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: the Eagles win this game, and I wouldn't be surprised,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I guess, if Saquon came a little back at captain
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: because people are going to want to play Cowboys. So
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: he's the only Eagle I'm expecting to play at captain,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: and I probably will end up overweight. He is also
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: cheaper than Dax, then Javante, then Seedy, and you can
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: just play him at captain instead of one of them
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: and leave the money pretty easily that way. So I
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: don't have any hot takes at captain. I'm curious to
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: hear if you do, Tambo.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: I'm going to bring some more stuff up too. Yeah,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: this is, I mean, that's what I was doing, Andrew,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: while hoop was doing it essentially just to get an
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: idea of like some examples. I was using the stone 2.0.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: It wasn't a dry run for this. I was doing
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: something just in the meantime, but I usually do start
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: with that. Like what hoop looked at is what I
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: want to find out. What is everybody doing? And again,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: People say, well, it's different for everyone. Like, of course,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: we're just trying to get a general idea. And that's
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: why we focus more on the process, how to actually
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: play the game and outthink the field. We're all working
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: with the same pieces, just like a chessboard, whatever. But
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: the best chess player going up against me, I suck
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: and have no clue about it, is going to win
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: a hundred times because I have no clue how to win.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: So.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: It's not that good for the odds for us in
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: this game, but I will say it's like you do
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: want to be thinking like that. So I'm starting there.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: What I love, Title, is just going back to it,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: is like even when you do the 5-1, a lot
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: of them do kind of land on Goddard. And it's
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: when you look at projection, median, we've got them, 12-ish. Well,
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: no one knows, like Makai Lemon, 9.8. You got Darius Cooper.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: 8.6.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Like these are all medians. Those can all change or whatever.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: So it's a, but, but look at the gap in price.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Goddard 6,400 and a little bit of money left over,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: or you just have to drop him down to McKay
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: lemon and leave 4,000 bucks. That's only, I mean, less
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: than three of us. I like most of the Goddard
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: lineups already have money left over to spend. You're not
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: maxing 50 K and landing on Goddard. So when people
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: are like, well, feels comfortable, they're probably going to be down.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: They're just going to throw the ball to God. Maybe, probably, but,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: And it's unfortunate, you know, in the way things happen sometimes,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: but it's like, if you have a guy there like
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Kelsey last night, and you know, he's the one that
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: gets the catch at the end and causes this massive
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: split when it could have been instead of Kelsey, somebody
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: else there that's cheaper and ends up being for all
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: the money.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: That's the point, right?
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: You're, you're looking for how much, you know, how much
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: you win when you are right. Or when you do
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: make these moves, I think this is a good slate
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: for that. Just the way I'm seeing it be built out.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: You can do it on non five ones, by the way,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I'm just noting it that that's, something that I'm seeing.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to think outside the box on some of
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: these other spots. Like I guess Flournoy and Ferguson don't
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: love it. Just saying, obviously being that they're kind of
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: in that six to 70, 66, 7,500 range. They're almost
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: half the price at captain of the CD lambs and
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: the other guys up top there. So that's interesting while
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: staying on the same side. And then the other side,
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: I guess if you're doing like, Goddard or the receivers,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: you're doing it. I'm probably doing it more in like
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: a two, four. And I know everybody calls it differently
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: because it's still, but it's the underdog versus the favorite.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: I always use it in my own way. I don't
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: care if it's right or wrong. It's how I'm doing it.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: But if I had like Mackay lemon up top, instead of,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Ferguson on the other side for a little bit more money.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: I can drop down to McKay lemon. I can still
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: use McKee if I want in the flex. And then
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I could use four guys from the Dallas side and just,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: you know, you have two guys from beat from the Eagles,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: one being the captain, four guys in the flex from Philly.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: But I guess the bigger question is now that I'm
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: looking at all this is do either of you have
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: much interest in, or any interest, I should say, after
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: all we've talked about in McKee up.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Top, not really for me. I think they're going to
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: try and control it on the ground more. He just doesn't.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Game log watching is a little tough, but.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: I will say. Why do they have a 20-point team total?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Because Dallas is fucking ass. Dallas is buns. We've got
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: to go back to buns. Dallas, their defense specifically is buns,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and their team is buns. Someone said on Twitter, I
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: don't know, it was last week, I've got to stop
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: falling– eliminate all the names from Dallas and just look
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: at like their recent history. I mean, the reason everybody it's,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: you know, Dak Prescott, it's CD lamb, it's George Pickens.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Like that's great and everything that they have those names,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: but the team never lives up to the hype. Never.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: So that's why they're projected to score three touchdowns, like
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: in this spot and their defense is horrible. Like it is,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: it's an, it's a weird dynamic. I mean, yeah, you
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: look at it. I mean, there's a four, four and
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: a half point difference. in between what they're projected to score, right?
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: So if they do hit that 21, how do they
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: get there? Hypothetically thinking, somebody should be able to compete
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: with the Dallas offensive players to be the highest scoring
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: guy on the slate, right? If you look at it
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: like that, there's only a four and a half point difference,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: but where is it? Well, that's the thing.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: It's like, I do think they put up points. I'm
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: not arguing that they're not going to put up 20.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: It's not that as much as when you're building your
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: lineups to think about it. I guess the thing about
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: me for McKee is like, just looking at the stone.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Does have some leverage there. I know you don't often
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: see a quarterback from the underdog up top, but when
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: you do, that's what it's really all about. And I
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: guess that's my thing is if most of you are
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: going to an Eagles captain, it's Barkley. If most people
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: are going to a Dallas captain, it's Lamb and Prescott.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: And then after that, you do get Javante and Pickens
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: right there.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I get it. But McKee sort of splits the difference
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: on all of it.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: And who knows? Like you could stack them with the
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: guys you like the most. You could over stack them.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: You could do a bunch of different things, but it's just,
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: if the other side spreads out enough and he actually
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: does something, it's just really hard to imagine. But the
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: good news is he's only going to be like five
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: or six up top in the captain. So I guess
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: all I'm saying is if you're building out and you're
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: seeing that you get like 10% of them, I'd be
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: fine with that because I think it's like, I do
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: see like, When it happens, what that path would look like.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: And man, I will say this. I always say it
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: and people hate me for it. This is what I
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: pick up.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Usually people like me.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Most don't when I say this, but I have to
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: say it. There's no two worst fan bases ever. than
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: the Eagles and the Cowboys. And man, Discord is, we
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: always say our Discord is active and vibrant and fun,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: and it is. We're not lying. It's like the least
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: toxicity of all. But the one night the toxicity shows
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: up every year is when these guys, well, it's two,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: but whenever they're playing.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: The Eagles and the Cowboys, this is when it shows up.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: These fan bases just can't, ever take an L of
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: any kind or say that they're bad or admit it.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Like I'm all time, like the Ravens suck at this.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: Like I have no fan base or fandom to that stuff.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: These guys just go on end about their shit. Like
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: good for you being a fan of your team. I
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: love it and support it, but man, just let it be.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: If your team is buns right now, they're buns right now.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: If your team's banged up, if the freaking Eagles beat
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: the Cowboys tonight, may as well just ban yourself from
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: discord for two days.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: It will be unbearable.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: There'll be a flag or an excuse or whatever. just
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: something if this injured team beats their ass so we'll
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: see how it shakes out title what do you think
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: but it's.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: One thing to add on to a point that you
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: made before because someone did bring it up earlier it's
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: like you know we had dallas tampa bay uh just
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago and you know there's no way
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: tampa bay can can be the the winning captain like
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: uh yeah yeah exactly right there yeah it's like there's
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: no way and it's hard it was hard very it
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: was more difficult to make the case for the tampa
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: guys at that time as you know plays on the
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: slate or captains on the slate. Um, so it can happen.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: And if you get it right tonight, you're going to
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: be competing with a lot less people, uh, for the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: winning lineup because it's going to be super Dallas heavy.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it can definitely happen.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: The, um, the, the Cardinals beat the Rams yesterday. People
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: talking about Miami beat the jet. I mean, Miami, the jets,
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're both pretty bad.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Texans Texans were minus 500 yesterday.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the upsets happen all the time.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: I think that's the thing here. When you've got, you know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: a total and a spread this close still, like between
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: the two, you can definitely still see it happening.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: It's just build accordingly. That's all I'm saying. But the
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: one thing when I brought.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Up McKee was just that he does sort of split
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: the difference on everything.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: He's the mid-range. Look it, Barkley's more popular than him
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: and he's 14-4.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: The captains on the other side that would be the
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: quarterback against him in Prescott, who's popular, is 15-6. Javante, 15-9. Lamb, 16-5.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: After that, you got to go down to... $ 7, 500 Flournoy, $ 5, 700.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Lemon, $ 9, 600 Goddard. All those guys.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Well, right there in the middle is 12-9 McKee. He
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: would leverage the Barkley for if people are on that side.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: And then he's the pivot off of the other side.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: And for those, if you're not playing the college football
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: streets at Shippenation, you should be. But for anybody playing
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: those with Superflex, What do we know is that when
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: one quarter back is going off, the other side is,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: you know, that's what can force it the most, but
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: it's out. It's only during super flex formats that you
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: can get the full benefit of both quarterbacks and play
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: them both at the same time. So if you think
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Dak can go off and that the game could stay
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: closer and that this spread is more accurate and the
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: total is more accurate, then that's where I think the
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: McKee stuff gets a little bit more interesting. Who do
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: you stack them with? Whoever you want. But it's like
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: there's Barkley, Lemon, Cooper, Goddard. That's where I'm cutting it
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: off and then figure out how you're mixing it up.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: but I do think there's something to that just to
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: see how it shakes out here tonight. So, uh, title,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: do you have anything else to add on the captains
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: or the fan bases?
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, nothing to, I mean, fan bases for, for sure.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Philly's by far the worst. I mean, you can't even
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: go in there and feel safe. No, I mean, just
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: like how people react, like they, they think it's their
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: whole life mission or whatever. Like it's the Eagles. Are
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: you like the fights and flipping off? I mean, these
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: guys are crazy. And I say that, and it's like,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: probably like, 10% of the a hundred percent. I, I
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: understand most people, especially probably watching our normal and don't
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: act like that and don't approve of actions like that.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Like those Raiders fans that tried taking us out and things.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: The psychos.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Of course I remember. They don't care that a little
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: kids around or this, they're just in their own world.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Um, There is this, I think I've seen this before,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: like the wife trolling her dad, like because they're fans,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: like the super, it is what it is.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Like I said, I love the fandom. It's good for you.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: If that's you out there, I appreciate it. I support
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: you on that.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying it's tough when there's like a
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: battle in the discord because these fans are like really
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: ruthless with each other. And it's these two fan bases
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: that it's, it's always the same way. So we'll see
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: how it goes tonight. Yeah.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: The McKee stuff though. Like, no, he doesn't have any
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: rushing ability is props. I think six yards on the ground.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: And I did look at this. So his last three starts,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: like McKee did throw the ball 45 times last week.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Today his passing attempt props about 33. But even when
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: he did 45, completed 26, only 215 through the air.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Like he threw as most as he'll ever throw and
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: only scored 12 DraftKings points. For him to throw two
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: touchdowns or more is plus 150. So when I'm looking
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: at all that stuff, I'm almost then telling myself, okay, well,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: because of Lemon's price and Goddard's price, or Darius Cooper,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: like if he's throwing it to them and they even
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: have 60 yards, five for 60, like I almost think
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: they're more likely to be optimal and at their price
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: and ability to leave money than McKee at 8,600. So
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: definitely could be wrong. We're wrong all the time. It
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: is just very difficult for me at captain, but the
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: flex is a better question. I mean, we're showing 34%.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Anytime a quarterback is that, it kind of reminds me,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I guess, Case Keenum the last time. And he went
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: out and absolutely balled. I think he was captain optimal.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: on that slate. But anytime you get a starting quarterback
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: around the 30% in the flex mark, it's, I almost
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: always am at least with the field on that.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: What, what did you just remind me of?
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: I was going to say, there was something you said
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: before that though, about the, damn, I forget what it was,
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: but McKee. Oh, when you said the plus one 50.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: I know it's like only plus 100, but man, that
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: I had to, by the way, the London bet hit yesterday.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: And then I tagged the discord and said, I'm adding
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: the Pollard London parlay and.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Posted the real slip.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: So we had, I don't bet very often, but when
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: I do, but man, that just makes me like the
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Barkley plus 100.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I like Barkley too.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: I got a little betting money to in the account
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: there now tonight. So maybe I'll throw that one out
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: there because it's like, if you don't, it is harder
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: to see the McKee plus one 52 and two touch
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: or whatever, like throwing for that. But if Barkley actually
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: is going and that's good to roll, like I don't
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: care if they're an underdog or not. If he was
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: fully healthy, you'd think about it would be like minus
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: one 50, like minus like it's Barkley on the ground.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: Like you could, you could easily see that. Well, what's
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: his other props by the way, now that you've got
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: them there.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I haven't 70 on the ground. um let's see what
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: his receiving yards prop is not great only like 16
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: for his receiving yards prop and then michael's talking could
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: they limit it and all that i mean this is
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: a must-win game if the eagles are trying to compete
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: which they should both teams are two and four in
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: the division giants are four and two but you need
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: to win this game if you want to stay i
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: mean which they probably do so oh yeah gary man.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Bringing all the point today no more tush push Got
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: to get Barkley jammed.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: But look at this stat.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: This is over there looking at the news today, talking
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: about if he'd play. And obviously, it already said he's
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: trending toward playing. We knew that. But Philadelphia, just 28
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: and a half rushing yards per game without Barkley. And
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: then 109 when he has played. What did you say
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: his rushing prop was again?
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: 70.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: 70.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Man, I'm doing it. I'm saying it live.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: If we're wrong, we're dead. Who cares? I'm going at
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: the over 70 and the touchdown parlay.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Wow. Because.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: this is already a.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Good matchup to rush. Like, I don't care if they're
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: an underdog. Why would they try anything else? Just run
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: the ball. And it takes like one run to pick
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: up 40 or 50. Like I, obviously there's injury stuff. Yes,
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: but it's baked into the line. I like that. And
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: then if they're, if they're going to put up 20 points,
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: maybe they don't, nothing says they will, but if they're
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: going to put up points, I actually have from title,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: just not even meaning to say it that way. I
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: have way higher confidence that, in Barkley scoring one, then the, um,
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: you know, McKee throwing for multiples or whatever it might be.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: And then Gary comes in with the no more tush bush.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: So hoops over there, betting it already. He's looking it
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: up on his phone just to double.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Check the parlay. Appreciate the support.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: On the best.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Last time there was a bet made. It was, uh, Mr.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Hoopster with Chig. He said optimal bang. He was optimal.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: He said that. I know he said he liked the
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: receiving yards over. That was free.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: So I appreciate you buttering me up after the Pollard
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: call yesterday, bringing some sunshine back.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I just want Ham in here. It wasn't necessarily you.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Ham literally made me raise my min exposure. I was
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: already double the field, and then I was like, yeah, Ham,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: now I got to get to 20%.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Well, in his defense, though, that's his home team, though.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: So it's like you got to be a little bit–
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: you have to be harsh on your home team, and
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: it's been tough to be a Tennessee fan. So I'm
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: assuming– there's a little bias baked in there, but the
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: chick thing that was like, yeah, first drive bang, bang.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: We're good. So that was fun. We'll find one. Hopefully
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: we'll find one of those tonight.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: We're going to talk about this in a second too. Like, yeah,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: this is a conversation.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Also price is funny too, because it was priced as if, well,
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: maybe it wasn't, but it looks like it was priced
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: as if there could be no Barkley.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: He's at 7,600 on draft Kings in the flex. He's
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: at 8,800. We'll get there in a second.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: We will run through quarterback anymore on the captains from
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: you guys, either of you. Speak now or forever hold
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: your peace.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: All right, good.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: We got quarterbacks in the flex. You were already leading
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: us their title. So I'll stay with you because you
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: were talking like McKee in the flex is the bigger question.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: I already like how you broke that one down with
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: the ownership basics and everything there.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: But what else with Dak here?
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Dak is almost 60% in the flex and he's almost
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: 20% up top. I mean, he's going to be like
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: 80% tonight regardless. So any thoughts on Dak and how
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: he handles this spot? He doesn't run either, by the way,
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: for people like him.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: No, he doesn't. But man, he dropped back 54 times, 42, 45,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: and 40 in his last four games as favorites. Yeah,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: the way it, I guess, doesn't work out is if Javante,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I think you need at least two and maybe all
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: three of Javante, Seedy, Pickens, Saquon to outscore him in
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: a vacuum. So if you see that happening or can, sure.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: We play a lot of lineups, so I'm not going
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: to have 100%, but probably going to have at least 80%.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: It's just a very safe play. Like while we talked
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: about McKee, plus 150 to score two touchdowns. Let's see.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Dak was 270 is his passing prop, but his passing
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: touchdowns minus 144 to score two plus touchdowns. If he's
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: scoring two touchdowns or more, more than likely he's probably
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: in the least flex optimal. Yeah.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Tyler's giving us some more bets in the chat here. Hoop,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: if you want to get fired up for tonight, how
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: about McKee 250?
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Through the air and a Saquon TD. Plus Eagles money line.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Get it all in there. He's got the Eagles, man.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: He's high on the Eagles.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Nothing would surprise me with Dallas. I mean, man, it's
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: like they have the– I mean, look at some of
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: these divisions. Look at the titles and the Lions and Packers. Yeah,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the North. Like that is– tough someone's gonna get completely
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: screwed because they're gonna have to you know play each
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: other twice and then you go to all four.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Of them might get it they might both get the
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: wild cards.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah and then you go to the NFC East
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: and the Cowboys have literally the easiest easiest path and
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: they just can't they just suck they're two and four
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: so nothing would surprise me man like nothing would surprise
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: me if the Cowboys at all.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Man this is.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Too good to be true so um Did you get
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: any of these invites, Hoop, from our boy Dan, Dan
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: the Man?
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Man, Gary's going to the DK Cabana suite. These guys
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: are just loving the life. I was going to bring
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: this back, though, before we get into any other thoughts
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: at quarterback from Hoop, but Ace Boogie.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Says, Monday Night Football tonight, Cowboys 50-9.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: But we didn't do the game for a little while
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: of who scores the most points and what the winning
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: thing is. But following Ace Boogie's footsteps here, you got
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: the paid in full up. That is Ace Boogie, straight
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: out of the dry cleaners. You guys haven't seen that movie,
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: Oldie But Goodie. But 50 to 9, what do you
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: guys got for the score tonight? Start throwing your scores
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: in the chat. The benefit of doing these shows live,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: we like to keep it interactive, so... Let us know
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: in there who, what do you got to add at
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: the quarterback position? Anything else you got there? If not,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: you can then take us into running back after.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: No, I mean the quarterback, same conversation that we kind
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: of always have. Anytime you see a quarterback with low
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: flux ownership, I think it's definitely appealing regardless of how
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: bad they may be. I mean, they get to touch
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: the football first, basically every single play, they have the
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: opportunity to do some stuff. And even if they're playing
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: from behind, they just get free points. So definitely interested there.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Running back's very simple as well. I mean, it's just
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: for me, Javante Williams, Saquon Barkley. I just don't think
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: you can, I don't think you can even play the
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: other guys. Definitely can't play Pierce at 7,600, just unplayable,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: unless obviously Saquon's rolled out. And the problem with anyone else, Goodson, Lepke,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: their price where they're going to have to beat all
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: the value on the Eagle side. And when we get
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: to wide receiver, you're going to see how many value
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: wide receivers there are. And even on the Dallas side
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: with Flournoy and whatnot, they're going to have to straight
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: up beat all those guys. And I don't think they can.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: So Javante, Saquon, nothing else. Yeah.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: The comments are coming in already, man. We're getting some
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: close games here, sticking around the total. Gary's got it close,
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: but big boy over. Man, you better get the bet
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: on the over if you think it's sitting around that one.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Everyone loses tonight, even with the game, quote unquote, win.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: No need for a score.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: The entertainment might really just be the Discord, actually.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: I might do opposite, and I might just stay in
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: there and moderate as well as enjoy the back and
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: forth to see, but Yeah, we're throwing it back today,
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: Andrew said. We got the dry run and put your
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: score in chat day. Yeah, I like that.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: It's a good run.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Our other guy, Andrew Black, man, the used car salesman.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Andrew Black is back on the attack. Look at that tie, man.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Buddy's ready. Thoughts on Fergie just sucking? We'll get to
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: tight end in a bit, but I will say Spanford,
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: I know he was a little involved last game because
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: my best lineup in the lottery had Spanford. I just
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: need a little bit more out of him. I think
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: it was unique or it was... three-way chop or something
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: like that. So you can use the eyes like that.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Like hoop said though, title on these running backs, obviously Barkley,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: if somehow he does, he trending, if somebody doesn't go,
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: then obviously, you know, Pierce gets much more interesting at 7,600.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: If you had Barkley lineups, you could already swap them
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: to him and just say, that's the same game script,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: but it's going to be him now instead, whatever you
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: want to do. But Goodson at 2k, Much less than 10,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: six in the flex for Javante Williams. Yes. But when
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: it's like $ 3, 200 Darius Cooper, $ 3, 800 lemon, uh, the backup
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: tight ends that we've talked about are cheap and you know,
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: floor noise, only 5k is a little bit more sure,
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: but you can find the money we've explained it exists.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: So what is your thoughts on these backups here? And
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: then anything you want to add on the main guys?
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean, I wanted like Goodson. I made
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: a case for him going into the Falcons game because
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: he played 16 or 21% of snaps and it looked
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: like it was, he was going to be out there
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: a bit. And then he played three snaps and then
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: 11 snaps. And it's like, man, I just, he has
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: no role unless there's an injury. And again, I said,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: must win for the Eagles. You can even argue more
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: of a must win for the Cowboys since Jerry Jones
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: and them still actually, I mean, they have a healthy quarterback.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Kurt's probably not going to play all year. So like
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: they really need to win on a two game slump.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: If I had to play any backup, running back and
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: he's positioned at running back even though he's more of
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: a fullback it probably is just hunter lepke and going
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: all the way down to 400 he had three targets
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: last week anyone that has three targets for 400 bucks
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: he's a good blocker so he's out there more than
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: good sin again more than likely he's probably not going
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: to be optimal or what you need with so much
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: value but he's 400 so i do prefer him to
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: good sin as far as the running backs i prefer
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: giovante to saquon in the flex i think saquon's more
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: of a cap i mean i'm gonna play him in
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: flex too but I either want him to all the
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: way get there at captain, and then the game script's
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: different than it's not a Cowboys at captain because it's
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: going to be so popular. So I do think I
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: prefer Saquon at captain if choosing. But yeah, it's really
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: bad after the main guys at backup running back.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: I haven't fully looked into it, but I will say
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: on the last thing, usually that's the case for me too.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Like if it's a Barkley game, it's all the way there.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: But if I am going to go a lot of
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: these 5-1 Cowboys lineups, I think once you go Lamb, Dak.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: You can obviously still fit anything. I mean, you can
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: get Barkley.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: I just think more people will get down to like,
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: they'll want to get more of the Javante's the pickings,
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: the Ferguson's.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: And all that stuff.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: So it's like, if I go Barkley, that could set
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: me up and then I can still leave the money
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: on the other side. And like you said, if I
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: got to play a left gear, a span or something else,
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: if I need to get that different, that's fine too.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: There's lots of ways to handle it there. So I
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: agree on that. I think the rest is all solid hoop.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: I'll kick it back to you.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Is there anything else more to add there? If not
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: take us into wide receiver.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wide receiver is definitely the most important part of
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: the slate with Devonta Smith being ruled out. Now we
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: just have a plethora of potential cheap options. We know
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: the Dallas side. It's CeeDee Lamb. It's Pickens. Flournoy, they're
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: all solid plays in their own regard. Flournoy definitely, though,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: stands out because he's kind of priced in a weird spot,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: like the 5K range, where you're going to have a
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: bunch of these cheaper Philly guys I don't think he's
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: going to go overlooked, but I wouldn't be surprised if
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: he comes in, you know, lower owned than what we're thinking.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: So I really like him. I really like him in
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Dak captain's teams because, you know, for Dak captain to
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: get there, you need more guys to be involved. So
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I think he's a really good play for the Dak
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: captain teams. And then said, you know, it's definitely CD
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: lamb one in Dallas and then George Pickens too. So
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: there is a pricing difference. So it's $ 2, 000 cheaper. So,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: like both, but if you have the money and you,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: if you have the money and deciding between the two
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: would definitely be CD over Pickens for me. And then
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia situation is what just really opens up this
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: slate from a roster construction standpoint. That's why we are
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: seeing a lot of those four, two Philly teams, four
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: players from Philly, two from, from Dallas because of all
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: these cheap options and, you know, making it easy to
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: spend the studs, spend up for the studs on the slate,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: the DACs, the CDs. So, You know, we have Lemon, Cooper,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Elijah Moore is going to be involved at $ 800. Hollywood Brown.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Did you guys know Hollywood Brown was on this roster?
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I had no idea until I opened up the slate.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Most probably didn't know he was still in the NFL.
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: He's definitely still here.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: So he's $ 2, 800. So I guess the one thing when
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: playing these guys is– Be careful, I guess, how you
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: do it. I mean, I think this is the slate
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: where I'm actively looking to leave a lot of salary
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: on the table. I would adjust my maximum spend on
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: this slate because I want to leave big chunks. Like
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: these Philly guys, Lemon could outscore Pickens. Cooper could outscore Pickens.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: So if you have a team and it's just one
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: more spot and it doesn't really matter all that much
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: for correlation, drop down from Pickens to Lemon. Drop down
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: from Pickens to to Cooper, something like that, and just
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: leave big, big chunks on the table. That's what I'll
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: be looking to do today. But all these guys, Lemon, Cooper,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Elijah Moore, and I guess even some Hollywood Brown, I'm
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: open to play. But I would, like I said, if
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: you're playing the Lemons and the Coopers, they're going to
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: come with good ownership, solid amount of ownership. So make
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: sure you're doing something a little bit different in those teams.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: It's just going to be so easy for people to
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: build these, let's just punch it and see what it
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: looks like. If you play a CD DAC team, you
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: got $ 5, 700 left. And then you plug in, let's see,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: we'll plug in Lemon. And then you plug in this
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Cooper guy. Then you're back up to like 8K. You're
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: going to be able to get Barkley and then you're
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: going to be able to get Goddard or something like that.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: So I think a lot of these teams that include
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: these cheap, Philadelphia guys, specifically Lemon and Cooper could end
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: up looking very similar. So I think especially for hand building,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard with optimizers. If you're hand building, make
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: sure you're doing something a little bit different in those
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: lineups because I think they end up looking pretty similar. Yeah.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: What was this?
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: We got to ask too, Hoop. Our man, Title, he's
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: out at this place. He's got his ceiling fan up
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: there now dusted off. But not only is his ceiling
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: fan dusted off, he's dusted off. Look at this fresh guy.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I did notice that right out of the gate. Like
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: when he first signed on, I didn't say anything. But
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: it does look like he might have something going on.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: We got the collar.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Like this isn't a show where people wear collars. If
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: they wear collars, you have to kind of address why
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: you're wearing something.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised it took so long. Yeah, I was expecting
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: right away. I had family pictures this morning.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, actually.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I never dress up or wear anything like this. I
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: was surprised it took this long, but thank you, Go Collect.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: It's hard to tell if it's like a full dress-up
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: thing or if it's, you know.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, when am I going to wear a collar
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: thing that's not.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: But it was two.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: I know he's got the flow, so always can rock it.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: But still, with no hat and a collar, one of
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: those two things.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Something was going on.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Some fall pictures going on.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Not yet, buddy. Not yet. He's got years to go.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: He's got to realize all the stages and I'm still
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: not like, it's the craziest thing about having kids. I
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: know we hit on it before and we joke about
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: us all being dads now, but it's like when a
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: kid is brand new, there's this whole world you're living in.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: And then your kids get like certain ages, like five
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: and mine are six and nine now. So you're like,
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: oh man, there's lots of shit about to go on
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: and things that are starting to get into sports and
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: the kids and doing different things. But like now hoops
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: in a whole nother world, this is our little older
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: than mine. So it's like, there's always, something going on
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: but it is.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Crazy though like how it all it all changes as
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: you go on and like the different stages because now
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: my kids are a little bit older like middle school
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: and high school so for like parent teacher conferences it's
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: like when they're younger you have like 15 minutes you
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: sit down with the teacher blah blah and well now
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: that they get older it's like all right you can
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: stop in for three minute windows to discuss with your
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: kids and don't come unless i email you and tell
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: you there's something like they push you away like so
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: much as it's wild. Yeah.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's fun though.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: That's why we love being parents and doing those things.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: So shout out to all the parents out there, but title,
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: I'll kick it back over to you. Give us your
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: thoughts here at the wide receiver position. There's a lot
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: going on. You mentioned Turpin being out earlier and then there's,
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm seeing like Elijah Moore pop up
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: on the other side for 800 bucks, but.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: This is also very true. I was struggling. You did
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: well though, for being completely positive. Actually, I don't even
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: know if we're going to classify it as a hangover.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: It might've been still drunk.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: I couldn't even say a participation.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: I was, I was at that nap was so great.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: When lock it, I saw Pollard's first touchdown. I went
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: in the discord, put my phone down.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: And then I, you couldn't say participation, but the P
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: word you got right was Pollard.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: And that's all people care about.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I woke up and saw Buccaneers had
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: 28 points at defense and was hoping that DK makes
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: a switch to super flex one of these days, but.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: I saw the outrage on X today of how they
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: need to get rid of defense still.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, people talk, and I was overweight at that.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: It's just so random. But when it goes your way,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: it's nice. Before I talk receiver, though, I like Sean Sullivan.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: He's always in the Discord. But, man, how fast things change.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: To call J.J. McCarthy a baller, did not expect to
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: see that in 2026. But, hey, I'm happy for him.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: No doubt I'm happy for him. I don't know if
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: I'd use the term baller yet. It's definitely a week-to-week league,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: as we've noticed. A lot of people jump on too
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: far to both sides, good and the bad.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: I like this take, too, before you carry it on.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: Someone said, like, if you're going that route, I like
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: sticking to this conviction. Says Tanner has had a little
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: more time with the team. Talking about McKee, of course.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't underestimate his ability. He has some really good-looking receivers.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: The thing is, like, there is no faith in Tanner McKee, really.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: I think our guy BG Little.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: Neck will have some high faith in him tonight. So
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: he'll be in the Discord talking about that. But then
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: you've got Makai Lemon and Darius Cooper. And, like, no
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: one's going to give them credit for much yet or anything, normally.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: should they probably, but I get like their opportunity is
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: here and it's now. So why not tonight? That, that
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: is a way to, if you're going to go that route,
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: I think get after it. So I like that call 24,
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: 20 Philly would be considered the upset as the underdog
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: at home, but still could happen. That seems realistic.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And we mentioned Devante Smith's ownership or being out.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: And that's why we're talking about it, but Wix is
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: out as well. And he played last week. So they're
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: down with their, their top two receivers. That's also another reason.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: It's a little harder to, For McKeon, another reason I
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: like Saquon quite a bit is because, yeah, if they're
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: going to control this game and win, it's hard not
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: to see it be on the back of Saquon a
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: good bit. So, yeah, I'll start with Eagle side, Cooper, Lemon.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: One interesting note is we're showing Lemon for more ownership.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Lemon's higher, and it's pretty close, but still 600 more,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: more ownership. And the props are, like, identical. Both of
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: them are sitting at about 40. So it's only $ 600,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: but any Lemon team can definitely go Cooper. I have
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: more Cooper interest. If I had to choose again, savings,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: less ownership. Another interesting note is the Elijah Moore, Hollywood
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Brown stuff. It's a 2k difference, but DraftKings doesn't have
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: any Elijah Moore prop, but they do have Hollywood, which
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: I thought was a little interesting. Again, I don't really
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: know what to make of that, I guess, but one
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: guy is 2k cheaper. So I just naturally, I like
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Elijah Moore a little bit, but he might be two,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: three times as own. So I do have interest in
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: both of them for sure. for value. Outside of that, yeah,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: those are the four guys you're playing for the Eagles
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: receiver room. And yeah, I mentioned also Turpin. He is
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: out for Dallas today. So Jonathan Mingo, he dropped a
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: touchdown too against Green Bay last week, but he was
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: on the field a little bit. And yeah, people, when
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: they go down, they're going to want to go Cooper.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: They're going to want to go Lemon, probably even Elijah
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Moore in Hollywood. So I do think Jonathan Mingo at
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: 1K is a pretty interesting click to get difference. And yeah,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: every time Cowboys are on showdown, I feel like I
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: always say it, but Florentino is probably my favorite play
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: at ownership and price. He runs the same amount of
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: routes as all of them. I keep waiting for the
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: day that he finally hits. He did actually. I think
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: he was on the winner for the Packers. He got
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: there in garbage.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: I think he was in that last game for sure.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: He got there in garbage time. Like before it was
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: the last drive and he got that. But hey, it
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: counts as the same. So any Pickens lineup can easily
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: go Florentino stuff like that. So yeah, that's the, it's
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: a great wide receiver room. It's on both sides.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: And it's like what you.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Said, there's a lot of like flips to do here.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Like on, you can't do much when there's an 11K
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: and a 9K guy over there, but between Flournoy 5K, 3,800 lemon, $ 3, 200 Cooper,
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: Hollywood at 28, 800, like in that range, eight to 5K,
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: that's just leave money range. Who cares? Who've already just
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: talked about leaving a bunch of money. I'm always leaving
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: a bunch of money. It's like, who gives a shit?
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: And then you just talk about it again. It's like,
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: the lemon versus Cooper thing, it's a medium projection on paper,
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: but because people already have it, it almost goes in
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: people's brains as like a wide receiver, one wide receiver too,
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: because they use the price to dictate it. We, we
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: see in games, uh, you know, I use the one
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: all the time that the Eagles, it was, um, AJ Brown, uh,
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: it was the highest price and Dotson beat him the
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: first game to start the season the year after the one,
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: the Superbowl. And it's like Dotson wrecked him. It says
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: that like, it's that it's one game. Who, who is
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: the wide receiver one in that game? AJ Brown, who
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: became the wide receiver one for what we care about tonight.
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: DraftKings scoring is whoever became the result. So it's like
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: people just are giving that crown to lemon.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: It could definitely be Darius Cooper.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: And maybe Darius wants to outdo his guy, Omar Cooper Jr.,
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: who came through again yesterday. Did you see that?
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: This guy's a baller himself.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: Talk about a baller back-to-back weeks.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: That was crazy.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: Geno was up there, by the way, too. If you
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: had Geno, Cooper, and Mason Taylor. Told you guys.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Mason Taylor had like 28 fantasy points or something crazy.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I somehow had him on teams. I was like, wow,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: that's insane. But yeah, that stack, we talked about it.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: It was interesting.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if that's a showdown game, all of them outscored
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson right there. Just yesterday's game, that's on the
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: island today. You just left three grand was the optimal
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: that you left in a solo shipper. So you can
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: look at it like that. Big time.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: I love that analogy of just bringing it across, right?
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: Or example of just saying, like, just think about games yesterday.
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: We talk about it all the time. It's like, this
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: is what we're doing it for. And again, if you
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: have an optimizer, it can make your life a little
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: bit easier. But for those hand-building, you know, that's how
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: you don't land on the lineup that turns 300,000 into 3K.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: No shade.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: We have plenty of people, part of our team, people
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: win that tournament.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, to each their own. If you put
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: that into your, some people put it in as a
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: piece of their portfolio and win it. Some don't want
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: to play for that type of win, but for the people,
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: a lot of people out there, my buddy sent me
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: a text shout out to him.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Congrats.
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: He had like 45 bucks, three lineups played that one.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: He's not trying to think about, do I drop down this?
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: He'll take whatever he gets turned out to be 3,200
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: and he cashed another one. So it was like, you know, 3,300
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: bucks on 45. That's very nice return on investment. So
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: just think about what you're playing and what you're doing,
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: but there also is other ways to attack it. If
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: you want to take on more risk and just have
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: the guy that, you know, nobody else has in that
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: spot with the money left over that will pay off
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: a ton if it's correct. So title, I'll stay with
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: you on tight end, man. We talked about Goddard Ferguson.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: Someone mentioned earlier, Brevin span Ford, there's backups, et cetera,
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: et cetera. But what are you thinking here at these prices?
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: Cause some of them are right around the same range
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: as lemon and Cooper.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And they're all going to be lower own relative.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Like it's been like Ferguson. We talk about them all
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: the time, 16%. And I forget Avery or the car salesman,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: the fresh-looking dude, he mentioned that Spanford closed the gap,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: and he did. Ever since that ball hit Ferguson in
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: the helmet against the Buccaneers. Yeah, painful. They lost the
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: game because of it. Yeah, I mean, Spanford really closed
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: the gap. And he looks good. Spanford's been around the
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Cowboys for a little bit, and it seems like he's
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: gaining more and more trust. Enough so where the props
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: is like, yeah, 14 for Spanford and like 20 for Ferguson.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: So it most definitely has closed a lot in 1800.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: So any Cooper, Lemon team, Hollywood Brown, you can go
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: to Spanford. I do have quite a bit of interest
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: in him in single digits. I also just think because
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: I want to get different a little bit, plug in Goddard,
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: go to Ferguson. He's still going to be out there.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: He's still a red zone target. It wasn't too long
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: ago when Rio took second because of Ferguson as well.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I do like it. I think I like the Ferguson
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: stuff a little more, like when you are playing a
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Saquon captain or if you're playing for Gary, a 31-30 game,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: or when they do have to drop back and throw
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: a little bit more. Other than that, yeah, I don't
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: really like Schoonmaker much. Spanford has definitely taken over the role.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: On the Eagles side, Goddard definitely can make the case for.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: After that, I think it's pretty difficult. Like Johnny Muntz,
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: he's out there some, but he is just a strict blocker.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: And then I guess Zach Ertz, he didn't play last week.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: Before he had, what, seven snaps, 13 snaps. I don't
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: think you really got to get to these guys. He
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: has a real price, too, so he actually has to
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: do something. I think that's just a little too– I mean, yeah,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: if you want a solo ship, sure, but it's not
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: something I'm going to be looking to do on this slate.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: So Spanford and Ferguson at ownership. I like the Cowboys
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: tight ends.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I like the– when you had the point
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: earlier of just like, you know, the wide receiver one
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: versus two and outscoring each other in that, I thought
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: it was also a good one here. Where did it
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: go from– man. how do we get so many comments
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: in here so fast? It's like, there was one there.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: Do you see the one about Zay Flowers?
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: I'll try and find it.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: There it is.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Here, Michael.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: Thank you. So, you know, when people talk about like, oh,
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: the Eagles are going to suck tonight. They're not going
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: to put up any points. It's like, It, what if
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: it's just lemon that you need, like, or just Cooper
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: that you need? It's like, sometimes people forget like, oh,
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: this team sucks. They're not going to put up any points.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: Cleveland sucks.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: And a bunch of guys crushed it yesterday on Cleveland.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: Or Tennessee sucks. There's no way they're going to put
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: a point. Cam Ward's a piece of shit. Well, if
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: you think that, but they still put up points, couldn't
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: they come through? Pollard and his backup running back is out.
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: And there's a chance, like, you just don't know, but
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: it's like, it's not really about that. Again, we care
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: about fantasy points. So it's, you're going to get whatever
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: you get from these guys. But the point of what
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: he's making is like, even with 13 points, Zay flowers
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: had 30 ish or something yesterday. It's just, it's, it's
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: all fantasy points point per, uh, uh, reception, et cetera,
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: et cetera. Shout out to my man, Max, a soda.
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: Falling in your footsteps with the fourth place Millie maker there.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: Let's try and get three spots better. My friend for
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: this week with the, uh, the main event there, that'd
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: be nice, but all right. I don't have too much
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: else there. Who, what do you got at tight end
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: for yourself? Anything you want to add?
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Well, the same mindset as a title here. The one
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: thing I will add with Ferguson, I know it's been frustrating,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: but now he's priced where just a touchdown could be
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: good enough. I mean, all the way down there at
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: like 4,400. So the price has come down enough where
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: we're not, we don't need them to go out and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: catch five balls for 60 yards and a touchdown. Most likely,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: most likely we don't need that. So him, yeah, span
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: forward Goddard. I like nothing really more to add. And
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: then with the kickers and defenses, I'm in on the
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: kickers and mostly out on the defenses.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this pricing tonight is just crazy the way we
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: don't see a dynamic like this very often. So it
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: does make it interesting. Even at this, like you said,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: it's $ 2, 000 more for Goddard than Ferguson. It's like people
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: typically like Dallas, but because they're going to be heavy
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: on Lamb and Pickens on the Eagle side, it's the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: opposite because like, hey, I'm going to be on Goddard.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: hard to pick between they're playing enough of these guys
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: but it looks like right now if you can just
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: go look at ownership it's not a secret that lamb
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: and pickens will be higher owned than ferguson but on
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: the other side it is it's only slightly more like
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: people still have to fit these guys in where they
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: do but they are more on goddard and not on
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: the receivers so there's like there's some flips to be
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: had there as well i think all right anything on
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: kickers and defenses hoop that you got.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just, I'm in on the kickers. I'll play
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: both the kickers and minimal exposure to the defenses is
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: where I'm at tonight.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: And I'll let you look up FanDuel while I go
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: to title here. Title, kickers and Ds for you.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, opposite of hoop. I like the defenses more, mainly
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: for the ownership. You're going to get like a one
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: and a half, maybe even two X price or ownership
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: difference between them. And I would also like like Eagles
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: D 3400, Lemons 3800, Coopers 3200. They're going to get
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: squeezed very heavily. If they can, Eagles D can outscore them.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: And also, Dax made, I mean, what, he threw two
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: red zone picks or something against the Packers last week,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: and the Cowboys taking on a backup quarterback without Devonta
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: Smith and Wicks. I could see both defenses doing well.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: I like the one you had earlier with the Cowboys
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: in the five ones too. Again, way more common when
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: you go into those, I get it, but I already
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: explained multiple ways to get different with those five ones.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: So lots of ways that you can go there, but
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: it just makes more sense in those. And then obviously
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: if you have like Javante Williams at the captain, I
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: think putting the Eagles D in is a pretty good
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: idea too, just because it's, you're setting yourself up to
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: continue to put yourself in those positions.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: Our man, Sean Sully getting sharper. He's dialed in right now.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: I know that.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: So he came in here with this one, just like
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: when you talked about it, bringing that up. So, um,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: you know, Steven now is calling Cooper two plus TDs.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: I think it'd be a pretty good, what's his anytime
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: on one for Cooper.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, let's check it out. I know it's definitely, uh,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: it's definitely out there.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: So it's going to be plus two full.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Two was plus 2,200. One is plus, we know
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: that plus two 40 is, uh, for him to score one,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: the same as Ferguson.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, it only takes one, I guess, but man, these
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: odds on touchdowns are insane.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Terrible, horrible, just horrible.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: What did you find on FanDuel, Hoopster? What do we
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: got there?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Really not much of a difference. George Pickens, look, he's
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: under 10K. Everyone else, all the main guys are over 10K.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: He's 9,800. Goddard and Ferguson prices are very similar. Goddard
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: is 7,200. Ferguson is 7K, so only a $ 200 difference
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: between those two guys. Kicker's Ds, you got Lemon and Cooper,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: basically same price, $ 58, 000 and $ 56, 000. So that's pretty similar
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: to what we're seeing over on DraftKings. Where is Damian
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Pierce's $ 8, 800? So $ 8, 800, that is going to be a
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: very– you want to be contrarian, play Damian Pierce tonight
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: because I don't think anyone's playing him on either site.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: You have Elijah Moore, $ 1, 800, very cheap option. really there's
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: not too much of a difference really between the two
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: sites tonight.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I was going to say, I don't see that much,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: but I guess like it's all relative to each spot title.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: Did you see anything stood out?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Like, I think it's like pretty close across the board, man.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: Even like, yeah. Cause like Pickens is 13, five versus 16, five.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: And then you go to FanDuel it's 14, seven, 18, three,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: which standard with the pricing and the salary difference. But yeah, Yeah.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: I don't see too much else there. I guess Ferguson
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: is the main one, right? Ferguson, same price as well,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: 200 bucks less or whatever, you know, 300 at the
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: captain or MVP. Sorry. So title, anything else you want
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: to add?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: No, it feels really similar. Maybe say Kwan's a little
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: higher on FanDuel, but I think you're going to get three,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: three builds, even some four, two Eagles with the studs
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: being from the Dallas side. And then if people do punt,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: I think middling builds feel more comfortable and because Lemon
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: and Cooper's price is 5.6, 5.8 versus the 3K range. Obviously, though,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: the pricing's different. So 5.8 is not the equivalent to 5.8
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: on DraftKings due to the extra 1K, or 60K versus
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: 50K in terms of the salary. But I think Elijah Moore,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: when people do go down, he's going to be the
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: one a lot of people want to go to at 1,800.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: You have Mingo at 1,600 as a pivot, and then
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: you got Spanford at 2,600, I think both. are very
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: live on both sides of the price to outscore Elijah
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Moore at a lot less ownership.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And I think that is a good point. So
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: all I'll say to add is my two cents now,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: just looking at it a little bit closer is it's
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: way more about like your roster composition and thinking about
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: those things when you're building, especially if you're building by hand,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: as I know most people do.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: We're using optimizers, but just to note it, you just
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: said a great one.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: Like if people land on, people are way more likely
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: to play Flournoy at 5,400 than the expensive 5,600 and $ 5, 800 receivers, right?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: They'd be like, that's, it's a deal over there versus
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: it's more expensive on DraftKings. But then they would have
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: Elijah Moore potentially to fit the studs in. You could
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: flip it and play one of those Lemon or Cooper
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: plays that are more expensive, then Flournoy over there, but
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: then drop it down to a Brevin span board or
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: something like that instead. And you'll have to have a
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: little bit of money left over like for yourself to,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: to make up for that. But that's an example of
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: how you can do it. And Mingo is even cheaper.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: Like you said, he's 1600. So I think it's, um,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: Elijah Moore and, uh, And Flournoy is the same price
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: as Cooper and Mingo, but one is going to be
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: way higher owned than the other.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: And it's exact 2v2.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: So again, not saying it'll fit your build or just
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: to do it to do it, but look at your
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: build for more things like that. That's where I would say.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: And then the last thing is MVPs over there. always
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: get a little bit boosted up to the big dogs.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: So you're going to see Javante, Dak, Lamb, Pickens, similar
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: to DraftKings, but it's even more. Let's say Dak is
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: 18 on DraftKings. On FanDuel MVP, it could be like
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: 25 to 30 because it's just the way people set
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: it up.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: All right, Hoop, any final thoughts from you before we
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: get out of here?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: No, good luck to everyone, and let's finish the week strong.
• 1:06:53
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• 1:07:14
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• 1:07:18
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