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'College-Educated' White Women Remain One of the Democrats' Most Reliable Blocs · 3 Martini Lunch – Political Humor & Commentary

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
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  Speaker 2: Greb a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America
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  Speaker 2: and Jim Garritty of National Review. Free Martini's coming up.
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  Speaker 3: So glad you're with us for the Friday yes the
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  Speaker 3: Friday edition of the Three Martini Lunch. So glad you're
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  Speaker 3: with us and Jim. We start with good news out
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  Speaker 3: of Michigan again. We talked about Abdul Lsayd yesterday and
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  Speaker 3: him being the latest Democrat to publicly hate Thanksgiving a
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  Speaker 3: few years back on x Fox News has recently done
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of polling in the what I thought to
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  Speaker 3: be the most competitive Senate races, and most of the
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  Speaker 3: news is really bad except for Michigan. They've got ass
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  Speaker 3: Off up thirteen in Georgia, Roy Cooper up nine in
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  Speaker 3: North Carolina, Shared Brown up eight in Ohio. They've got
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  Speaker 3: the Democrat Turak up four in Iowa. They've got Tallerico
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  Speaker 3: at fifty one up three in Texas, and they've even
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  Speaker 3: got Troy Jackson up two over Susan Collins and Maine.
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  Speaker 3: I think they pushed the leaners pretty hard here. Most
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  Speaker 3: of these numbers basically total one hundred, but in Michigan,
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  Speaker 3: it's fifty one to forty seven in favor of Mike Rogers.
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  Speaker 3: The breakdown is kind of interesting, though, Among white voters,
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  Speaker 3: Rogers is up fourteen. Among non white, it's l Saed
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  Speaker 3: by forty two. Among men, it's Rogers by eleven. Among women,
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  Speaker 3: it's a dual l Sied by one. And that's where
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  Speaker 3: it gets even more interesting. White men, no college degree,
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  Speaker 3: Rogers sixty three to thirty seven, White men college degree
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  Speaker 3: Rogers fifty five, l Sayed forty three, White women no
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  Speaker 3: college Rogers sixty, l Sied thirty eight, White women college degree,
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  Speaker 3: l Sayed sixty Rogers thirty seven. So Jim Eric Ericson
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  Speaker 3: I think coined the term the offls the affluent white
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  Speaker 3: female liberal, and they are certainly living up to it
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  Speaker 3: in Michigan. This could be a really big lead for
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  Speaker 3: Mike Rogers if they weren't so wildly in favor of
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  Speaker 3: the lefty here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think people did not necessarily expect that
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  Speaker 2: to be the base for a dull. I'll say, first
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  Speaker 2: of all, like people, whenever you'd cite a Fox News poll,
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  Speaker 2: people like, ah, well it's fox News actually pop Fox
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  Speaker 2: News polling has a pretty darn good record. There's no
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  Speaker 2: sign that they put their thumb on the scale or
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  Speaker 2: you know, make Republican candidates look better than their numbers
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  Speaker 2: actually indicate. And the fact that Republicans are doing so
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  Speaker 2: badly and all these other Senate races would argue again like, ah,
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  Speaker 2: they decided to help out the Republican but only in
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  Speaker 2: this race. Everywhere else they you know, decided not to
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  Speaker 2: do that. Secondly, this is about where we'd expect it
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  Speaker 2: to be. You know, Michigan is a purple state at
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  Speaker 2: best for Republicans. It is not easy sledding, you know what.
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  Speaker 2: I love to see Mike Rodgers up, you know, by
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  Speaker 2: a huge amount.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, but I think the better he was doing, the more.
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  Speaker 2: Skeptical I would be of the polling that the generally
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  Speaker 2: I would not expect. Even if you think this ought
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  Speaker 2: to be a blowout, it's probably not going to be
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  Speaker 2: a blowout. I imagine the four percentage point difference is
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  Speaker 2: right around the margin of error. You'd rather be ahead
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  Speaker 2: than be behind, but we should not, you know, take
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  Speaker 2: it for granted. And like, ah, you know Mike Rodgers
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  Speaker 2: has gone this. That said, you know, abdulas Aed has
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  Speaker 2: a significant job to do in terms of unifying the Democrats.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like he's done that to a certain degree.
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  Speaker 2: But I suspect that there are certain Jewish Democrats or
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  Speaker 2: those who look at abdulas Aed and just said, whoa, whoa, whoa,
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  Speaker 2: this is not what I the Democratic Party traditionally stands for.
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  Speaker 2: This is not what I want to be. And also
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  Speaker 2: also something they're kind of wondering. So Aboulasi had ran
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  Speaker 2: for governor in twenty eighteen. I want to say it was, yes,
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  Speaker 2: you know, built some name recognition through that. He's been
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  Speaker 2: a state health official for a long time. Rogers was
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  Speaker 2: a congressman, but he's been out of Congress since at
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  Speaker 2: least was a twenty twenty I want to.
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  Speaker 1: Say, oh, it might even before that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a long time.
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  Speaker 1: So it's been a while.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if you know, we like most of the Republicans,
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  Speaker 2: and that other polling that Fox News did looked they're
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  Speaker 2: weak and there are a lot of them were incumbents.
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  Speaker 2: It's an anti incumbent mood. I wonder if Rogers is
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  Speaker 2: helped by being a quote unquote outsider or having not
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  Speaker 2: being associated with the current Trump administration, not being associated
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  Speaker 2: with the status quo in a way that other Republicans aren't.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. You'd rather be in this
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  Speaker 2: situation than be behind by four points. Certainly a lot
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  Speaker 2: of road to go ahead of time, but the general
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  Speaker 2: election is starting close to where Mike Rodgers would want
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  Speaker 2: to be.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty fourteen is when he left Congress, actually, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's been a while before Trump even took the office
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  Speaker 3: the first time. So what do you make of the
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  Speaker 3: college educated white women. I mean, you see, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you've seen the pro hamas protests of people at least
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  Speaker 3: on their way to a degree if they haven't gotten it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the stark difference used to be married versus unmarried,
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  Speaker 3: and maybe it still is to some extent here, but
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  Speaker 3: the vast, drastic difference, there's got to be at least
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  Speaker 3: one explanation, maybe multiple explanations here, but it really stands out.
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  Speaker 2: So in a topic we're not discussing today, there's a
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  Speaker 2: report that Luigi Mangioni is going to plead guilty to
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  Speaker 2: the state charges, which by the way, might get him
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  Speaker 2: off the hook for the federal charges. It's a long story.
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  Speaker 2: This is an Andy McCarthy special and he's actually written
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  Speaker 2: about this over at the Corner. But I think it
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  Speaker 2: was the commentator Jarvis on X who said this is
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  Speaker 2: nine to eleven for college educated young white women who
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  Speaker 2: hate their fathers. And as grim and dark as that is,
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  Speaker 2: look the college educated white women the Lulu Lenin's, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: is what John Kennedy, the senator called them. Like Clearly,
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  Speaker 2: they're not just like a big important part of the
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  Speaker 2: Democratic Party. I think they're a very big chunk of
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  Speaker 2: the activists based right. I was talking with Hugh Hewitt
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  Speaker 2: yesterday and I brought besides discussing Hassan Piker, Jennifer Welch.
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  Speaker 2: Is this lefty commentator I believe. I think she was
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  Speaker 2: on some reality show or something, but she's kind of
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  Speaker 2: become the icon of these very online, very impassioned people
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  Speaker 2: who find the view to policy heavy and detailed in
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  Speaker 2: terms of their discussions, and they just kind of emote
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  Speaker 2: towards the camera and they kind of get it, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So my sneaking is vision is that there's a you know,
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  Speaker 2: like these this is the demographic that really hates Trump,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, Abdulah say Ed could be an amoeba
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  Speaker 2: and they would be voting for him over that, and
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  Speaker 2: they'd be an enthusiastic about the AMIBA compared to Mike
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  Speaker 2: Rodgers and Mike it doesn't matter that the last time
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  Speaker 2: Mike Rodgers was in office was before Trump took office.
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  Speaker 2: Like Mike Rogers by having an R after his name
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  Speaker 2: is a tool of the devil and must be opposed
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  Speaker 2: under all circumstances. And that's that's the mentality these folks
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  Speaker 2: are bringing here now. I'm surprised to see the margin
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  Speaker 2: that high. And by the way, if you're a Republican,
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  Speaker 2: it's not a good idea to write off college educated women,
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  Speaker 2: white women. Really, it's not a good idea to write
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  Speaker 2: off any demographic And one of the ways, you know,
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  Speaker 2: as we've been telling your Republican Party for years, if
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  Speaker 2: you feel like, for example, your support on the African
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  Speaker 2: American community is lower than you'd like it to be,
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  Speaker 2: try asking for their votes, Try campaigning their communities. Try
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  Speaker 2: it's the crazy idea, you know. And no, you're not
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  Speaker 2: going to see the numbers instantly flip. But when you
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  Speaker 2: neglect them and you don't re ask for their votes,
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  Speaker 2: and you're pretty much write them off from the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: Tend to do very badly.
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  Speaker 2: So my suspicion is is that this is a demographic that, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's already the deck is stacked. I do wonder if
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  Speaker 2: you're Mike Rodgers, are could you do better if you
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  Speaker 2: try appealing to that demographic? Are there things Abdul lsied
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  Speaker 2: that might not sit well with college educated white women
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  Speaker 2: that might you know that you might want to spotlight
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  Speaker 2: in the next two months or so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like his personal adherence to sharia law. He hasn't
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  Speaker 3: said he wants to do it publicly, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's that's the conundrum, right They think that the
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  Speaker 3: Republicans are so oppressive to women. Yeah, they'll they'll, they'll
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  Speaker 3: they'll push for hamas and some of them leaven. You know,
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  Speaker 3: defend is you can.
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  Speaker 2: Run a good campaign on my opponent hates Thanksgiving, my
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  Speaker 2: opponent hates football, my opponent rout. He might as well
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  Speaker 2: be rooting against the Detroit Lions. Just all, and that's
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  Speaker 2: all going to be good. But it looks like Rogers
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  Speaker 2: is already doing pretty good amongst those demographics. You probably
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  Speaker 2: have to go for the college educated white women and
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  Speaker 2: just you're not gonna win that demographic.
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  Speaker 1: You just want to balance it out a little bit
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  Speaker 1: better in your favor to help me the improve your
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  Speaker 1: odds of victory.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, one of my Radio America colleagues a couple of
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  Speaker 3: years ago had this theory. And the more I think
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  Speaker 3: about it, the more I think there's something to it.
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  Speaker 3: Is that you know, years ago, if you're well to
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  Speaker 3: do and in the suburbs and everything, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: competition was your house, your job, your husband's job, what
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  Speaker 3: school your kids went to. But then that became white privilege.
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  Speaker 3: And so now the biggest status symbol is whether you're
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  Speaker 3: down for the struggle against the oppressed or for the
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  Speaker 3: oppressed against the oppressor. And of course the left defines
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  Speaker 3: who the oppressor and the oppressed are. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if it's that starkly clear, but I think that's part
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  Speaker 3: of the mindset here.
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  Speaker 2: Earlier this week, Rob Emmanuel looked at the who almost
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  Speaker 2: certainly could run for president in twenty twenty eight, and
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  Speaker 2: I suspect not Doue terrific, But nonetheless he's trying to
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  Speaker 2: send a message for his campaign. And he said, looking
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  Speaker 2: at the election results in Wisconsin and the demographics that
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  Speaker 2: supported for Chessca Hong and the demographics that didn't. America
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  Speaker 2: is the only country where there's a wealth threshold to
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  Speaker 2: be a socialist.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, you have to be wealthy to support socialism,
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  Speaker 1: which is you.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a part of me that looks as like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if you're and you know, I've spoken to
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  Speaker 2: African American friends who were in twenty twenty not on
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  Speaker 2: board with Bertie Sanders, and their attitude is like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they may be Democrats, and they may have voted Democrats
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  Speaker 2: their whole lives, but they were what our character as
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  Speaker 2: as small c conservatives, like they've worked really hard to
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  Speaker 2: get to where they are in life, to have that
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  Speaker 2: little nest egg to own their homes. They had something
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  Speaker 2: to lose, right, They were not interested in some guy
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  Speaker 2: coming along saying I'm going to completely overturn the system
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  Speaker 2: and everything.
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  Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I worked hard to get
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  Speaker 1: what I got here.
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  Speaker 2: I know you're from Vermont, and I know you've got
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  Speaker 2: these lovely ideas you're telling the South.
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  Speaker 1: Filurdians and they don't know how good they had it
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  Speaker 1: under Cuba.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want any of this. And that was kind
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  Speaker 2: of the attitude that so there's a part of me.
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  Speaker 2: It's like I look at this and think, is the
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  Speaker 2: idea of overturning the system the sort of thing you
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  Speaker 2: can only indulge when all of your needs are taken
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  Speaker 2: care of and when you're quite comfortable. It was the
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: more comfortable you are, the more you're willing to say, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: now let's change everything. Ironically, usually they would make you
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  Speaker 2: want to preserve the status quo, but that's you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe you're more inclined and well, I've got mine, so
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  Speaker 2: now it's to turn up. Do we have to turn
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  Speaker 2: everybody else's life upside down?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: And now they shift the other way, you know, l
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: s I it is all Medicare for all. Let's have
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  Speaker 3: the government takeover corporations. And then he does an interview
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  Speaker 3: and says, I'm really a capitalist.
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  Speaker 1: Come one.
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  Speaker 2: I keep asking democrats, you know, who tell me they
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: support Medicare for all? Would you trade your current private
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: health insurance for for medicare right now? And once in
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: a while I say, yeah, I really hate my health
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: insurance company. I've been fighting with him the whole time
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  Speaker 2: I'd be doing But most of them time like, well no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want that I don't want medicare the way
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  Speaker 2: it is. By the way, Medicare for all is not
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: as good under most proposals you look at the fine print,
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: not as good as medicare actually is right now, right,
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't cover as much. So I keep asking, what
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  Speaker 2: you're absolutely sure you want the federal government to be
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: in charge of all health care decisions, like Medicare for
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  Speaker 2: all wouldn't do that. I'm like, who do you think
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  Speaker 2: is paying for it?
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  Speaker 1: The government?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Occasionally the light bulb goes off and they realize
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  Speaker 2: that they're you know what Medicare for all actually means,
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: but what they think is means like I will get
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  Speaker 2: all the health insurance that I want that I'm getting
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  Speaker 2: right now, and I'll get even more, and then all
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  Speaker 2: my healthcare health problems will go away and the government
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  Speaker 2: will pay for everything, and therefore I won't pay for it, which.
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  Speaker 1: Is not how it works at all.
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• 12:28
  Speaker 3: to another crazy Senate candidate in the Midwest for the Democrats.
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: And that is Peggy Flanagan, who easily easily defeated Congressoman
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: Angie Craig in this week's Democratic Senate primary by about
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: twenty points. She did a number of media interviews after
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: her win, and one of those included with Willie Geist
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: over on MS NOW, and to geist credit, he actually
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: asked about the widespread corruption that occurred in Minnesota under
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: the leadership of the Walls Flannagan administration. Yes, she's the
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: current lieutenant governor there, and let's just say she never
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: met Harry Truman.
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  Speaker 2: Do you deserve any responsibility, the lieutenant governor for those
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  Speaker 2: fraud schemes have taken place in your state over the
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  Speaker 2: last several years? I would say, you know, the governor says,
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  Speaker 2: the buck stops with him. More should have been done sooner,
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  Speaker 2: and I agree.
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  Speaker 3: And now we know that one hundred people have been charged,
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  Speaker 3: sixty have been convicted. Jim, if only there had been
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  Speaker 3: someone in a position of authority in Minnesota to keep
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  Speaker 3: an eye on this and not let it get so
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  Speaker 3: far out of hand. Just a shame.
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  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, Governor Tim Walls, look out for
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  Speaker 1: that bus. Oh ah, just thrown under the bus.
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  Speaker 2: By Peggy Flanagan. What a completely unforseeabletern of events. I
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  Speaker 2: like how she says more should have been done sooner.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: The passive voice was used. More should have been done
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  Speaker 2: sooner by whom? Right, you know, mistakes were made by whom?
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  Speaker 2: Why are these just these abstract thing?
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  Speaker 1: Were downs? Verbs, adjectives? These things keep happening? No, no ya.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, yesterday at the end of the podcast,
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: we talked about Andrew Gillham and the idea like when
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  Speaker 2: you're the political flavor of the month and you become
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  Speaker 2: a huge political celebrity and then you lose a race
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  Speaker 2: and then you just disappear into obscurity and life does.
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  Speaker 1: Not go well for you.
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  Speaker 2: It was about two years ago, right around this time,
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  Speaker 2: Greg that, like Tim Walls, was the flavor of the month,
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  Speaker 2: and we were told that he was this great genius governor,
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  Speaker 2: that he knew how to talk to blue collar voters,
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  Speaker 2: that you know, he could reach out to like that
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  Speaker 2: he was you know, the alpha and the omega, and
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  Speaker 2: he was going to be fantastic. Didn't turn out that way,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, did not do great in the debate,
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  Speaker 2: and so you look at this and you just kind
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  Speaker 2: of think, like I I get annoyed when the you know,
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  Speaker 2: the mainstream media tends to build up a figure into
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: this this person's amazing, and they often they've come out
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  Speaker 2: of nowhere, and you just kind of like, why am
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  Speaker 2: I hearing about Graham Platten or wa.
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  Speaker 1: Tim Walls is a really great, vivid demonstration.
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  Speaker 2: I keep reminding you of the first thing I ever
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  Speaker 2: wrote about Tim Walls was to look at all these scandals,
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily the specific one, but like various other ones
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  Speaker 2: of like on accountabilities, failing state audience, a sense of
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  Speaker 2: the state not knowing where it's money was going.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, you got to be kidding me.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's got a terrible record. How is he going
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  Speaker 1: to defend this.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it turns out he really didn't defend it, but
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: nobody paid attention. I'm just such a knucklehead. I forgot
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: to mention all the times I went.
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  Speaker 1: To c Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was just this stunning level of like the degree
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  Speaker 2: to which people believed in Tim Walls, because they had
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: to believe in Tim Walls. And here we are August
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: and twenty twenty six and his lieutenant governor is saying, Hey,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: blame him, not me. I got nothing to do with it.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: I was just a.
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  Speaker 2: Lieutenant governor, which is not quite as exculpatory as she
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: thinks it is.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Now, I think of the bobs here. What is it
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: that you say you do here? I realized the lieutenant
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: governor doesn't necessarily focus on every policy. Sometimes the governor
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: has them focused in specific areas.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: But this is a pretty big deal.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: And we're talking billions upon billions of doubts and she
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: has no comment whatsoever about what should have been done
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: or who should have done anything different. I mean, Michelle
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Tafoya is going to take this and just found her
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: over the head over and over again. I don't know
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: if it'll be enough to get over the finish line,
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: but she's going to definitely have a lot of AMMO here.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: When your excuse is I'm not responsible, I was simply oblivious.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: That's not quite a reassuring message you think it is.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what's her main argument for why she
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: deserves this job. It's her experience as lieutenant governor, I assume,
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: but not to know.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: It's because she's the first Native American who would be
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: in the Senate, which is a huge insult to Elizabeth Warren.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, I'm glad you brought that up. She's pitching
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  Speaker 3: herself to donors as the first Native American woman who
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: would be elected to the US Senate, saying they're currently
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: quote no Native voices in the Senate, and she has
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: been endorsed by Elizabeth Warren. So you know, I can
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: imagine Elizabeth Warren opening that beer like she did that
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  Speaker 3: time with her husband, just chucking it against the.
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  Speaker 1: Wall, just going to open it. Horrible human being.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't know if maybe she is actually
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: have some Native blood, if she's she better or else
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: she's gonna get the same treatments Elizabeth Ward and find
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: out that she's the latest Focahontas or Layawatha or whatever
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: name you want attached to her. But anyway, Minnesota Democrats,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: you nominated a doozy. Hopefully the rest of the state
• 17:23
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  Speaker 3: don't get to have a lot of fun New Jersey,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: but they're having fun with the recent news, yes, exactly,
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  Speaker 3: the recent news that former Governor Phil Murphy's official portrait
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  Speaker 3: has a one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars price tag.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: That's quote unquote the most expensive in state history, some
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: of the reports explain. And to think that only eight
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: years ago people were upset about the eighty five thousand
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: dollars spent on former Governor Chris Christie's official governor's portrait. So, Jim,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know who they're hiring here. If they'd hired
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Hunter Biden, you know, prior to Joe leaving office, it
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: would have been even way more expensive than that. But
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty five thousand for a painting seems
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: like a lot.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: First, I'm enough of a traditionalist to say it is
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: perfectly okay for governors to have portraits painted. It is
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: perfectly fine to have them in the State House or
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: governor's mansion or wherever they are. But I would like
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: governors to at least be a little more frugal with
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: this highly What I don't quite get, Greg is that
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: it cost like fifty thousand dollars more than Chris Christie
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: just did. And you know, we're a high class podcast.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: We don't make fun of people's appearance. But don't you
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: think it would have required more paint to paint Chris Christie?
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: How like how a bigger, big, bigger canvas, bigger frame.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: I don't understand how Phil Murphy's could be so much
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: more expensive than Christie's. And also like are they purchasing
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: these at Christie's? Is that another way of put it is?
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Why are we going there? From how? You know I
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• 20:17
  Speaker 2: First of all, if they ever create portraits of us, Greg,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: it's probably gonna be by your daughters and a work
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: in Crayola, and it's gonna be just fine. That's all
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: we're gonna need for all this kind of stuff. And look,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: are there bigger expenses in the state budget. Yeah, but
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: this just feels like such an easy, obvious, hard to
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: justify expense because I know Biden inflation was bad, but
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: you can't say that the gubernatorial portrait market is the Oh,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: there's just a great reduction in supply of.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: People who can paint these things.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: The other thing is, like I don't know at some point,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: like if you got like just a nice glossy photo
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: and put it in a frame, what anybody would anybody care?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: You know, just take a picture, you know.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: But you know, nobody really misses Phil Murphy as far
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: as I can tell. The Republicans don't. And remember when
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: the non citizen registration came out and Mikey Cheryl, the
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: new Governor's out there saying happened in the last administration?
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Wasn't me? I said, last administration?
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: So right now that I think about it, is Phil Murphy,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: despite at one point thinking he was going to run
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: for president based on how well he did in COVID
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: with you know, one of the highest death rates in
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: the Are we certain the portrait is of Phil Murphy?
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Wellcognize how many how many people would recognize you. It
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: could be paid a totally different guy, and you're selling
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: it for fifty thousand dollars more than Christie's did.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: So we don't really have presidential portrait unveilings anymore. I
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: don't think Trump had Obama back, and I don't think
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Biden had Trump back, and I'm definitely sure Trump didn't
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: have Biden back. So I think that tradition at least
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: for now is uh is on ice if not dead,
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  Speaker 1: Jim.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: There are challenges in this life. We face them every day.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Some are minor, some are intermediate, some are significant. But
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: the ESPN reported two days ago this is so good.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: A WNBA task force of team presidents and general managers
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: met Wednesday and discussed transgender athletes, but did not arrive
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: at any eligibility rules, according to a state and sent
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: to ESPN by a league spokesman, which led to a
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: guy named Jack saying on X let this sink in.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Fifteen women gathered together in a room for hours, and
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: they couldn't decide on what a woman is, Jim. They're
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: all frustrated that this controversy is supposedly distracting from the
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: performance on the floor, But it's their own fault.
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  Speaker 2: Greg, What are the odds that that meeting began with
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: them saying all right, before we settle into this decision
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: let's decide what we want for lunch. I'm just gonna say,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: you know, in part because of you know, I believe
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: it or not, I try to eat healthy ag one.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of you know, would like we
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: to try to keep making good, healthy choices. And you know,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I can look at the menu and like usually there's
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: like three things that feel like are good enough for me,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: and I'll pick that I can. I can make a
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: decision many like sixty seconds. This is garrity many women.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I know, like at least twice we're going to do
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: a few more minutes. We have to tell the wait
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: service staff, right, you know, I have real if my
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: food income, I could have completed my meal by the time.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: You know it's now we're being sexist jerks. But let's
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: just gonna observe, like why why are we making these
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: sexist these these sexist jokes because we have an idea
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: of what a woman is and what a man is.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of you know, like the stereotypes come
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: from having categories. If you don't know what these things are,
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  Speaker 2: you can't make these kinds of jokes. So, dear Wnba,
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  Speaker 2: I think people have pointed out what is the first
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  Speaker 2: letter in your what does the first letter stand for?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: And you need a definition for that?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: And I saw somebody say, well, you know, we believe
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: in participation, but we don't like these bad faith attacks. Okay,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: how do you define what a bad faith attack is
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  Speaker 2: versus a good faith attack?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: I go, does n this caunter Freedom or whatever he's
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  Speaker 2: calling himself, is he really you know, does he really
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  Speaker 2: think of himself as a woman. I think if you
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: hook him up to as a polygraph, he probably would
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: not say you probably would flunk.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: But who are you to say?
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: And it was interesting to see, well, if he starts
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: taking hormones and stuff, well it was like, well wait
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: a second way, say wait, so you're saying you have
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: to take hormones to be a woman. We're getting like
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: it's interesting to see how quickly we can get those
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: on the left to say, all right, we need some
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: clarity in our definitions and there are certain boxes you
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: need to check in order to meet the definition of
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: this category, which is what we've been arguing for from
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: the very beginning. Now they're on board with him, but
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, we got to keep these former NBA
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: guys who are just looking for attention out of the WNBA. Look,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: you know, like there this was an inevitable development. If
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: you do not have a definition for what a woman is,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: then you you cannot have categories of women. You can't
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: have a women's bathroom, you can't have a women's locker room,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: you can't have a women's basketball association. Like you need
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: to have the term to find in the first place.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: And they've tried to avoid this as long as possible.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Guess what WNBA, The day of reckoning is here.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: The left still can't answer the question. Four years ago
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: is Katanji Brown Jackson's confirmation hearing, She couldn't answer it.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: She's not a biologist, and the question was up there
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: way before that. So the left, you'll just be clowning
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: yourself here.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: But it's biologists, so you'll have to make this decision.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: It's professional sports leagues, it's high school sports leagues, it's
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: any institution that's got a men's room and a women's room. Right,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: who gets to go in which room? Was it inappropriate
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: for somebody to go into those rooms? Right?
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Like could be over so easily, but they won't do it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Jim have good weekends, say Monday.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Actually I won't. I'll see you Wednesday. No ill off
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: for the first two days from next week, but I'll
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: see you Wednesday.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Greg sounds good, Jim Garretty a national review. I'm Greg
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