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Diamonds in the Rough: From Frenemies to Besties · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to another episode of Diamonds in the
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: Rough with myself Teddy Mellencamp.
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Erica Jane.
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: Erica Jane. How's it going?
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: Well? No, I want to ask you something because I
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: before it was on tmz Okay, our good friend Kyle
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: sent me this video of you Jen and Kyle like
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: with kind of confronting this or this woman that was
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: mistreating her dogs. That looked that way on the video.
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: But I just want to say, Kyle's like videoing and
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  Speaker 2: jumping in the back and you are calm. I just
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  Speaker 2: so cool, standing there like unfazed. What was the wildest thing?
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  Speaker 2: And then I'm scrolling on the TikTok at nighttime and
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: I see that it's on tmz.
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  Speaker 1: Well this is the part that kills me. So I
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: get a toe from So this is now? So this
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: what day? Did I see you last week? Wednesday?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Because we did the pod and then I saw
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  Speaker 2: you that night.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I see you Wednesday night. This whole situation
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: happens on Thursday. And then Friday morning, I get a
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  Speaker 1: text message from my publicist. Did you and Kyle happened
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  Speaker 1: to get in a brawl on Ventura boulevard.
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  Speaker 2: It looked like it was about to be a ball.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this morning. And I said, no, no, we didn't.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, you didn't.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean no, I didn't technically know. And then
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  Speaker 1: she goes weird because maybe you could check out this
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  Speaker 1: TMZ right here, and I said, well, that was yesterday, Sue.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to know the details, you need to
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  Speaker 1: ask the right questions. This was yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: And so what I got another brawl today?
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for one today. But so what happened was
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: we were walking to my doctor's appointment.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like you guys were on a regular.
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  Speaker 1: Like we had done like a walk walk. Then we
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  Speaker 1: had gone to eat, and then my doctor, the one
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: that's nearby here, was like, oh, I can see her
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  Speaker 1: for a blood work whatever. So we're walking on this
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  Speaker 1: side of the street and we see this woman and
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  Speaker 1: she is, I mean, it's clear she's like mistreating her dog.
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  Speaker 1: She's like dragging them on the ground and like badly,
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  Speaker 1: and they're like, you know, like all they can, and Kyle,
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  Speaker 1: in a polite way, says, can you please treat your
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: dogs a little nice? And then the woman went frickin' rogue.
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: But then I thought, Okay, this is where it's gonna end.
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: But then the woman. The woman crossed the street, and
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  Speaker 1: then Kyle crossed the street, and I'm like, hold up,
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  Speaker 1: why are we crossing the street. It's already on like
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  Speaker 1: the beware to go to the next side of the street.
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  Speaker 1: So Jin looks at me and she's like, we need
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  Speaker 1: to get over there, and I'm like, I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: I'm the best one in the fight right now.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like, this is all you need
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  Speaker 2: is some brawl on and Dura Boulevard.
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  Speaker 1: So then we get over there and.
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  Speaker 2: Already had the hat on.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I want to warn a better outfit
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  Speaker 1: if I knew we were getting in a paparazzi brawl,
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  Speaker 1: like I.
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  Speaker 3: Was in all beige.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even put a wig on underneath my hat,
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  Speaker 1: can I tell you? And so then there's they're fighting.
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  Speaker 1: Then the other woman's like screaming, like acting like she's
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: gonna fight Kyle. Kyle's got the phone out, and I
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: just walked in front of her just it was genius.
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  Speaker 2: I'm watching everybody's body language and you're just calmly walking
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  Speaker 2: in front of every.
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  Speaker 1: Probably but I don't even know better.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I just think that you're at that place where
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: it's like yeah, and I mean, you're just very.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like what, I'm like, what are you gonna do
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  Speaker 1: to hurt me? It would be impossible? What and you
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  Speaker 1: know how I am? I focus on two little things
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  Speaker 1: and all I could focus on was that she had
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: poop in her pants. I know, not not poop, but
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  Speaker 1: I saw the poop. But then it turns into a
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. Everybody else from Nture Boulevard comes down.
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  Speaker 2: How did it resolve? Were the dogs taken away from her?
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  Speaker 1: No? We kept calling animals. Yeah, we called nine one.
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  Speaker 1: The woman just pulled the dogs away and that was
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  Speaker 1: the end. But like nothing, but yeah, that was the
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  Speaker 1: no I saw it. But I was really just a
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  Speaker 1: confused human being wandering around.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Kyle's like, this is how my morning went, and
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  Speaker 2: sent me the video and I go, you gotta be
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  Speaker 2: fucking kidding me.
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  Speaker 1: But the video, this is what I'm confused about. The
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  Speaker 1: video that was posted.
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  Speaker 2: Is someone else from across the street.
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  Speaker 1: It is someone else's video, and there's no noise, so
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  Speaker 1: you can't even hear what's happening.
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  Speaker 2: You know. The video I got was really like okay,
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  Speaker 2: this and the trenches yeah yeah, and you just like
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  Speaker 2: standing there like what's going on. I'm like literally was
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  Speaker 2: like I only my friend.
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  Speaker 1: Group, only us, Like you know, no, no, we're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna let up once there's a crew of people that
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  Speaker 1: are just watching. And then one lady knew me. She's like,
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  Speaker 1: I follow you. Can you go stand over there? And
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  Speaker 1: I was like yes, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh she was concerned for you. Thank you one lady,
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  Speaker 2: because I was concerned for you in the video. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I don't know the should be doing this
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  Speaker 2: right now, and you're the most sane one out of everybody.
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  Speaker 3: But then all I.
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  Speaker 1: Kept thinking was my appointments in seven minutes. We got
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  Speaker 1: to get this and they have to walk me to
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  Speaker 1: the place I can't be on my own, chased by
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  Speaker 1: and now that we've caused a scene. But either way,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the woman was completely inappropriate to her dogs.
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  Speaker 1: It was scary. I knew it was gonna set Kyle
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  Speaker 1: off because Kyle has a heart. I haven't seen mine
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  Speaker 1: in a while, but I think.
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  Speaker 2: It's there, still there.
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  Speaker 1: It's I felt a.
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: Pump limited engagement only only.
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: When I'm really annoyed, like when cruise came in at
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: midnight last night for the third time, and all of
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: a sudden, I feel this and I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: What do you do?
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  Speaker 1: He was checking my sister's here, and he goes he
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: was checking to see if you were a breathing mom,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my gosh. But then I'm like, gross,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for checking on me, but you need to
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  Speaker 1: go back to bed.
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: He looks so handsome in his baseball Oh.
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: My gosh, that's what's his first game? And he's like,
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  Speaker 1: really good.
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  Speaker 2: It's great.
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  Speaker 1: But baseball is like that sport. It's a long sport
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  Speaker 1: to watch.
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  Speaker 2: It's a long sport, but it's the one that pays
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  Speaker 2: the most money.
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  Speaker 1: There's no boys look the hottest.
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  Speaker 2: They're great. I mean, if you, like, you know, play
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  Speaker 2: pro baseball. I'm not saying that he is, but he
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: could if he was talented enough. And it's kind of
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: a great way. It's much better than the other pro
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: sports except me be golf. Golf you make a lot
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  Speaker 2: of money and you don't get hurt. Do you get
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: hurt playing basketball?
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  Speaker 1: Tiger's gotten hurt multiple times. I mean, maybe he hasn't
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: been taking the best care of himself.
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  Speaker 2: But that's an exception to the rule. Most of them
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: are in pretty good shape. You're not getting hit?
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  Speaker 1: Are you just saying this because you're a better golfer
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  Speaker 1: than me? And that's probably the only sport you can
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  Speaker 1: say that about.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the only sport I can see.
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  Speaker 1: Oh one other sports singing, dancing, Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I can sing, I can dance. I can I can
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  Speaker 2: swing a baseball that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh see, I can't swing a baseball that. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not good with clubs.
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  Speaker 2: Club Yeah, good with clubs.
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  Speaker 1: Clubs are not my strong suit. Yeah, but I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: good at racing. Why was now at this point, I'm
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  Speaker 1: pretty good at sitting and watching.
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  Speaker 2: I may okay, I may beat you out there, because
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  Speaker 2: I'm really I'm really good at sitting and watching things.
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  Speaker 2: These days, all I do is I go home. I
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  Speaker 2: told you. All I do is put on all these
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: positive meditations because you know why, if I don't, it's
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: going to end up on a crime show.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's where I end up.
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: Oh are you watching the true crime?
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: Now? Yeah? I'm watching tons of true crime. And I
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: also watched Adolescents, which is so do you like that?
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  Speaker 2: How was that?
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: It's so?
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  Speaker 2: It was masterful? But it is a depressing set.
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  Speaker 1: It's really depressing. And this I don't want to ruin
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  Speaker 1: this for anybody, but like I like a clean cut ending.
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  Speaker 2: Oh and there wasn't one. Kind of like life, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of like our lives. Yeah, I don't know. Well,
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: which is the strange thing is we asked all of
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: our listeners what they would want to hear us talk about.
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  Speaker 2: No more sex.
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  Speaker 1: I'm shocked they didn't want to hear every.
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: Jet, the jets. When you're a jet, you're a jet
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  Speaker 2: all the way.
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: When you're a jet, you're a jet. So they said,
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: we want you guys to discuss the female friendships, especially
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  Speaker 1: later in life.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: We can talk about it. So the first question is,
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  Speaker 1: can you talk about how you didn't hit it off
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  Speaker 1: at first and now have a beautiful friendship. What made
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  Speaker 1: you go from I don't know about her? All right?
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  Speaker 1: This girl is for me.
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  Speaker 2: Now? Can I speak first?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and then I'll come back.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that when a new person enters the shows,
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: because we obviously met on the show, that sometimes you
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: don't get the best feel for one another. And so
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: we didn't hit it off right away, but I gained
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of respect for you. And this is where
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: my whole I couldn't figure it out. Where my whole
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: thing changed for you was when you stood up and
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: did the right thing regarding the dog and Dewy and
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: all that. I was like, this woman has balls and
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  Speaker 2: this woman is someone and I like that because you
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: were like, I'm not doing this and all of you
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: think you know the whole story. You don't, but I do.
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: And that right there made me think there's really substance
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: to this woman. And when I saw that, I was like,
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: that's bold and I liked that, and I.
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: Felt that I felt the shift then too with you
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: guys and pretty much everybody, because I mean it was
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: we sat at that hot table in the Bahamas for
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: a very long time, very long time for me to get.
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: Those balls, but it doesn't matter. You got the balls
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: and you did it. And then I was like, oh shit, yeah,
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: that's someone who's telling the truth and I like that.
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: And from then on I was like, cool, we're good.
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: Well for me, it was a little different. I feel
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: like one of the things that we get along so
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: well about right now is I think we're both quite
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: good at reading people. Yeah, And I think and I'm
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: sorry to say this, but this goes for both of us.
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  Speaker 1: I think both of us weren't being our full person. No,
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  Speaker 1: we both were having a lot of struggles.
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  Speaker 2: And especially now when you look back at it in context,
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  Speaker 2: we were both struggling and could not see eyda eye.
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: We couldn't see eye to eye, and I think both
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: of us felt something was disingenuine about the other one.
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: But were I was putting it on myself. She doesn't
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: like me, she doesn't this me, or and she probably
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: thought she's fake or.
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: She No, I didn't think you were fake. I thought
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: I remember trying to befriend you on the flight to Vegas,
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: and I said, oh, I heard and you. I asked
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: you a question we were seated on the back. Oh yeah,
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: was salient, and the way you answered me was like yeah,
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: And I just thought, oh, she's already made up her
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: mind about me, like she doesn't like me. And it
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: was just that one moment I was like, Okay, leave
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: her alone kind of thing, like she's not.
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  Speaker 1: She's not my person. And I think we both got that,
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: and I think the more that we kind of hung
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: around each other, it was like okay. It was even
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: when you said that I wasn't a fawn in the woods.
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, she at least sees who I am.
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  Speaker 2: And the audience, it told, cussed me out. But I
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: was right, just like I'm gonna tell y'all, I'm always right,
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: whether it's today, tomorrow, or five years you know what.
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  Speaker 1: She may have been right on that one, but I
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: was right too when it would she waited us wait
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: too long to put on the red. Oh that was
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: I had raged that day.
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  Speaker 2: I know you had raged, and you know what I do.
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  Speaker 2: You know why I was late because I was sick
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: and I was trying to find something at the pharmacy
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: and I couldn't get back in time. And the pharmacy
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: because it like was lunchtime. After we went to the zoo,
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: which was really cool.
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: We did love that we got along the.
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: Pandas, like the pandas were cool and I couldn't get
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: I was trying to get something in my throat. Anyway, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I understand why you were late. I was upset too,
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: and that I shouldn't have kept everybody waiting. But it
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  Speaker 2: was red.
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: But it was great when you were walking and then
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: your little heel got caught in the little hat.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, and the bicycle almost ran me down, like it
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: was sometimes it was necessary. Sometimes God works in weird ways.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: But I do think that when everything happened for you
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: at this show, I wasn't and I had made I
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: liked you and I respected you, and I wasn't going
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: to let the fact that you weren't on our show
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: like stop our our but our burgeoning friendship. I just
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: wasn't going to do that. I don't believe in that, like, oh,
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: that person is no longer on the show, so therefore
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: we don't talk to them.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: And I think it also it you realize that somebody
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: is transferred into an actual friend when you want to
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: tell them something that has nothing to do with the show,
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: Like you're a person that I would reach out to.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: And I've said this in probably every single press interview
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: I ever asked. When people are like, well, tell us
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: about the girls on the show, I'm like, if I
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: were ever in jail needed to get out, wanted to
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: call somebody that would never tell anybody, it would be.
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  Speaker 2: Architectic, Like that's right. And you know what this reminds me.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: When I was going through all of this shit with Tom,
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: you sent me like drinks, and you go, I know
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: you could use a drink right now, and I thought,
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: and we hadn't spoken a little while, I had talked
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: to anybody, and I thought, thank you, Teddy. It was
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: just so nice of you to recognize that shit was bad.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: And sometimes you don't want to talk about it.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I was just in a weird, like
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: scared place, and you were like, I think you could
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: use a drink right now. I'll never forget that.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: And I was, you know what, we made it use
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: a drink soon.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: When you can, when you can't.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: The weird thing is I am allowed to drink right now,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm so freaking tired of the time.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, you'll just have to go to sleep.
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that it's in night nighttime.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to time.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: That, Okay. So that's how we started kind of getting
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: into it. And I do think it helped that both
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: of us had a good relationship with Renna.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: She was really she was very She was a great
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: broker for our friendship.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because Renna would always try with me, like she
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: she likes you.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: She always liked to still likes you, still loves you.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: But she would try. You know, you'd get little notes
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: from production about people's past and Renna. You know, what
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: made her such a great housewife is that she'd poke
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: at you like she'd be like, so I heard you
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: at your placenta.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which was wild and I was I.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Was like, yes, I did, but it was in pill form.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: Do you have a problem with it? It supposedly supposed
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: to make you feel better? Would you do it? Or
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: should I look into your.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Pill postpart depression? She was like shit, you know, like.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: She had the ability to like go in hard, but
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: then also if you said something that made sense, she'd
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: be like.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, she gets a bad rap sometimes because people
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: don't understand Lisa Rena is a very good friend.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah she's not one. Oh my god, Lisa Renna came
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: in to see me in the hospital.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: She told me she called me and that was one
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: of my bad days. She tell me. She was like, Erica,
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: I just left Teddy. I don't know what to say.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: It's okay.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: It was like if it was your arena's worst day
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: on Housewives, Oh, I'm sure me on steroids.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't do well on that, like pregnant
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: zone and sh'd I get wild? Oh my god, you, Hi,
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: fiant I can't deal.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: But the promise. I didn't know I was being there.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: You also just had your head opened.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I did have a little sprout
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: coming out of the top that I covered up today.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I couldn't even do a wig today. That's the kind
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: of dumb mother.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: You look beautiful like this. I have a nice shaped head.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: I kept telling you that.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Thanks. Well, I'll probably wear a wig for tomorrow because
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: I'll be with my sister and.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: One. Well, no like an you. She's sitting right.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Here in the couch, right here, laughing because.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: And I've never met Justice. We just met all these years.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Because we are motto is I am the cute one.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: She's just my sister. She looks like we took that
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: from Mary Kate and Ashley Olson.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: I like them. That's a good thing to take because
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: they got a billion dollars.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: You know what you try?
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, So the next thing is, what's something about each
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: other that surprised you in a good way? After you
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: got close?
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Teddy, it's probably I have to say this. You are
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: one of the most mentally strong people I've ever seen
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: in my entire fucking life. This woman, if it's a commitment.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget. We were in Santa Barbara and I
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: don't know if you remember me being a bitch. You
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: this woman will wake up at the crack of dawn
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: and go run like one hundred miles before we ever
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: started like getting up to and I just remember, keep going,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: keep going. She's out there running in the heat, and
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: just You're one of the most disciplined, mentally strong people
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I've ever seen. The commitment is is and.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: She would give me shit about it, but I worry
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I would give her shit back in my head, I
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: just didn't have enough balls to say.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: You had a lot of balls, you just weren't doing it,
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: But I I would say for me, it started when
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: when shit started hitting the fan for me on the
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: show and I realized how warm you could be.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, so I've just made up a
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: completely wrong person.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think that I've come across real cuddly,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: but you know what I am did I don't, but
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: you know what I am good at. When people are down,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, hold on a second, we're going to get
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: through this. That is one thing that I do now
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: because I just don't like for people to feel.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Alone, and you'll stop somebody on their tracks when they're
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: going down the rabbit hole the wrong the wrong way.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: What's something you think? So this is for both of us.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: What's thing we think we do well as friends that
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: maybe we don't give ourselves credit for. For me, it's
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: you give very helpful, honest advice that maybe people think think,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: but they don't actually want to hear it. I don't
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: get my feelings hurt in that way.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Like there was something we were talking about the other
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: day and you were like, Teddy, absolutely do not do that,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: and like the tone came out like where I was like,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm actually not going to do it.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: And I'm also not going to be offended by that tone,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: because that's an I love you tone.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I just think that maybe in that particular situation, listen,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: that was a flat out no. And I could see
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: you kind of wanting to make because Teddy, you know,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: you're somebody that's always working and always making things happen.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I was like, we're not. That is not I'm sorry,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: that is not happening. What is something that I do
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: well as a friend? Maybe I don't give myself credit
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: for I'd like to think that I'm not judgmental. I'd
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: like to Oh, I hope that when people come to
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: me they know that first off, I'm not gonna you
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: can tell me there isn't anything that I'm going to
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: be like ew let me get I'm always like, okay,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: we can work this out, Like that's all right. Other
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: people have gone through things like this, like don't feel bad,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: there's always something to do. I hope that I do that.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I guess that's how I'm answering this.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I think that you do that. And I think you
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: also have a good way of when when friendships are
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: not going as planned, you have a great way of
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: being able to talk to the person that's, you know,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: that's hurt and kind of help the situation, but also
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: talk to the person that may potentially be doing the
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: hurting and say like this is where you need to
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: jump in. And I think it's hard to navigate both sides,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and you can do that, which I'm more of a
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: one sided goal.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I do are your loyalty and I I do.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: And I think that you know, like yours and Kyle's
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: friendship is really otherworldly, like it's it's really great to
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: see and I know how much she loves you and
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: you love her. And I also admire the fact that
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: you will own your ship. Yeah, you'll be like I
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: did this or I cannot. I cannot lie to you
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: like this is what it is. I'm not going to
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: do that if it involves me. Yeah, if it involves you.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: But I'm never gonna If you told.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: You don't, I'm no, you're not.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: You're not, And I think you're the same way.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying it. And I won't do if
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: somebody comes and asks me to say something or do
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: something that I don't agree with, I will not do it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Like no, like to hurt someone else, or to expose
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: someone else, or to make someone feel. Now I may
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: do it myself say fuck you, like you know whatever, But.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I mean I have done it to people before in
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: the past. But I feel like I've learned my lesson
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: in that way. I would have. I wish the way
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: that like my gut on my like my little beating heart,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: my little the grand true stool Christmas heart would have
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: handled things was like just always gone directly to the person. Yeah,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: but sometimes I would maybe have a stop on the way.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: And stop always got you in trouble.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: The stop wasn't the stop was.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Not the best, not the best idea.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Do you believe in having one best friend or do
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you think different friends serve different roles.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I believe different friends serve different roles. Now I'll tell
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: you why. Because there are certain people I connect with,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: let's just say being a mom. Certain people I connect
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: with with. You know they and and I'm talking about
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: me going to other people. For like, when I share things,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I share certain things that I feel very comfortable. Somebody
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: would know, you know, what do I do with this situation?
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: So I feel like I have a lot of My
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: friend group is small, but I definitely don't believe in
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: one single friend. I like different strengths than people.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: And I think it's I mean, I think if we
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: saw all of my friends and you know, my sister
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: and everybody combined in one room, which I did in
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: the hospital, it was like, I do like a certain type.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I like a strong will you like people to tell
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: it how to? Yeah?
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I like strong people who are funny, yeah, And so
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: for me that's key. But when it comes to like
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: a best friend, like I forgot who my it was?
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe even Justice said who do you think your best
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: friend is? And I said, I can't answer who my
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: best friend is. No, I can answer who. Like my
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: core ten people have been.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Not a lot of people to hunt. But I still
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: have high school See that's impressive. I used to have
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: high school friends. But you know, I think sometimes my
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: circle is very small, you know, and I have no
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: problem like.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: But also question, did Tom make your circle smaller?
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I was always small, but yes, I was very wrapped
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: up and lived behind gates and was very much involved
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: in his life. So I had maybe two or three friends.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: But you know who's good. I would go to Lisa
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Renna to say, to ask her a question, and Lisa
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Arena has this very very skilled way of saying, you
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: know who you should go talk to about that? Go
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: talk to this one about that, because I know that
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: they have experience in that area. Lisa is very good
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: like that. She'll say, I don't really know much about it,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: but I know that that person does. Go talk to
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: that person, and she's been right on many times, and
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: That that's key. But I also think we have different
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: friends for different seasons in our life. It's not that
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not friends with certain people, but like sometimes I'm
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: really close with someone going through something together. Yeah, and
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: it feels the same. And then or there are people
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: that I was close with and then I had a
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: bunch of kids, and then I was like, what am
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I gonna do every Saturday? I'd be like, you want
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: to come hang at the pool with me and my
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: forty two kids? No, no, they don't.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not that girl. No, but I'd rather sit here
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: and do this with you.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, we'll figure it out. And I have
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: to say the other night when we were at Kyle's
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: there was a friend that you hadn't metaphrs before, and
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: after you left, she was like, I am obsessed with Erica.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she was like, she just may lays it
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: all out. So it's so effortless to understand. There's no
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: like sifting through the mind. And that's the thing. When
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: you live in Los Angeles, a lot of people feed.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: You a lot of bullshit, a lot of bullshit, and
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: this is not the place with a time like, you know,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: especially at Kyle's house with you and Jen celebrating Jen,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: like that was just not I don't want to do
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: that at this age, you know, maybe fifty four in
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: a few months and I was thinking about that. It's
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: just I want to be going to four our birthdays.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Should we go do something big for shit? Because you're
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: going to be fifty four and I'm going to be
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: forty five. Oh, it's got to mean something.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: It's got to be so let's do something. Should we
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: get our other cancer girlfriends together to Yes, let's do it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: That would be fun actually because we all our birthdays
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: are in a row.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: And we've never all been able to do it before
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: because the last time you were in another country for
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: my fortieth, so you couldn't come to that shit show
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: of my birthday.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: But it was this time. We really need to have
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: a good time.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: We're going to do it.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Let's do it.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Do you believe the quality of friends over quantity is
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: more important?
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, for sure, quality over quantity every.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Time, every time.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: And I think also too when you're going I know
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: us being on this show for a long time, and.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I mean I don't know that I was on it
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: for a long time.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about like in this like but your
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: other shows as well, like in your public life, the
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: quality of your friends, because there are only certain people
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: that you trust in this circle because not everybody has
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the best intentions here.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: No, And somebody said that to me, even with my
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: cancer stuff.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was going to say the same thing, like there,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there are lots of people that are trying
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: to get close to you for all the wrong reasons.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Well, someone said to me, and this is somebody I
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: ride horses with. She was like, be careful for the
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: friends that you all a sudden have that be your
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: friends before that you had cancer. And I was like,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: why would anyone? And then I realized it's like everything
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: that they post or everything that they do hits gets
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the more social media followers. That it's really wild, wild
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: to think about because I I actually, for me, it's
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: if I don't like you, I don't like you, I
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: don't want to spend.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Time with You've never and you've always been I don't
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: like that. No, I don't like that.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, yeah, And if I don't like it,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you're not doing it.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: No, you don't fake it.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: And I think that's also the power of no, which
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: goes into like the same thing as like having quantity
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: over quality friends, Like if I don't want to do something,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: you're not doing it like I don't care what event
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: it is. Like there's been times where all the girls
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: are like you guys, went to a dinner one night
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: and the Fox fours five did and they messaged me
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and they're like them and they're like it starts at eight.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm not going love you guys.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: We actually had to arrange our lunches and our dinners
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: around your schedule.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because I don't like to do shit late.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Well this was even before, like this has been years,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: you know, not just recently.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was right, it's better to do things early.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: No, I look, I'm with you. We like the other night,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I know, we were over at kyle'son home by nine.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Oh guys, you didn't even get to see my tattoo. Okay,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: So always I've wanted this tattoo and I never got it. Also,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: before everybody has a full mental break.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: She was allowed ID to get the tattoo, So don't
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: get crazy.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: So my entire family and I have talked at all
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: these holidays about wanting to get this little knife. I
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: don't know if you can see it, but and also
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: don't mind that my nails that I've bitten off as
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I show you this, but because I want to whenever
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I'm annoyed, just be able to go. And then anyone
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: that knows me knows we're done with this conversation.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: We're not going any further.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Plus, Justice reminded me we had a song that went
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: with it, and we'd go, I think, God, this little knife.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Oh well there you go.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Do you remember I think I like this little life.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: That was the most obnoxious song ever. Will you know
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: what we've now taken it for the little knife?
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I like it. I wish I could have gotten a knife,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: but I look kind of you know, that's all I
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: need for my rebuild.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: You know, Eric has gotten a night back.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: We always know she was terrible. Relax, it's not that deep. Um,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: let me live.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Okay. What do you think the secret is to keeping
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: a strong friendship going communication?
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: And it doesn't always have to be if you were
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: friends with somebody, I can pick up with you. Like
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: let's say I have friends, I don't speak to them
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: for months, a couple months, but when I do, it's
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: like we never be left. And that to me is
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: the signal of a real friendship.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Me too, It's a lot, a lot that are needy
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: and all pain in the ass, and like I texted you,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: but I didn't hear right back from you. Yeah, I
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: just had fucking brain cancer.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I've been busy.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I can't see my text message. And the last thing
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: that I'm gonna do is my eyes. Yeah, and listen,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: if you want me to call you right back, tell
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: me you got some gossip.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: You better be worth it at this point.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: If you're just checking in on me, this is what
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I also learned. If you're just checking in on somebody,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: say hey, I'm just checking in on me. You don't
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: need to write me back, no, but just sending.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Love, just sending hugs.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. Then I don't have to worry about it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I don't worry about it.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: And then is there's such a thing as too much
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: honesty and a friendship?
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I think that for me, if something does
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: not help or something or is Look, I think a
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: lot of people have put this. I'm unfiltered. I say
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: it the way it is. That's great. Yeah, but if
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: it hurts, hold on, Like if it's not something critical,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: if I knew something that was drastically going to change
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: something for you, I'd listen I've got to tell you
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: this is not going to be easy. But I got
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: to tell you this, which is like my fucking opinion.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Who cares?
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: You know, It's like, but I also think, I mean,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I was in a situation the other day where I mean,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: this was with somebody of the male gender, So it
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: was different because I think sometimes they miss social cues
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: a lot. And it's nobody that I had a relationship
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: with or anything. But they were like, hey, you know,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the next time that you're irritated about, it's somebody I
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: work with, the next time, will you pull me aside
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: and tell me and tell me and not in front
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: of a group. And I was like, well, I don't
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: consider two people a group and we all work together.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Oh like.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: But then I found myself getting crazy, Like then I
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: was like trying to prove myself.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Well, you're competitive.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Well then I was like, well, did you make a
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: mistake or did you not?
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Well? See competitive, this is who she is.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: But then I found myself going, why couldn't you have
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: just gone.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Oh way, you're right, okay.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Next time, I'll solely bring it up to you. But like,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: is that.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I think you probably could have left it it okay? Yeah,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: when you start driving home the point a little too hard.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: It's not great.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: It's not great.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I made a shake on it at the end.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: That's okay.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it's not great.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Look it's it's not terrible. It's not earth shattering. Yeah,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: but it's just something for next time, like that cool.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Like I should have put. Then this hot part of
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: my body fills up and I'm like I need to
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: show I know, well, is there a friendship as an
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: adult that you've cut off? And why?
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Let me think about that. I didn't have a whole
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: lot to cut out. No, nothing comes to mind right now?
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: What about you?
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Only one? And it wasn't necessarily a cut off. It
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: was like the year. I mean, weirdly, I had a
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: year that was almost as bad as this one. It
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: was right when it was right when I got fired
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: and Slade amputato her fingers right.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: And both of our lives burned down that time. So yeah,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry to anybody, but like both of Slate's finger
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: got chopped off, the guy got killed at your house,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: you got fired, her head right, all of it.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: It was a rough year and somebody that I had
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: worked with, Oh, then I was getting attacked on the
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: internet by a stranger. Yes, so somebody that I had
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: worked with was very upset that me getting attacked online,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: was upset was hurting her business that she started because
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: of mine. Okay, that's I was like, you know what,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Mad at you, but I don't need this.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not going to talk about this with you,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: like your your business came to fruition becaucause of me
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: because of a television show I was on, And you
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: don't think I'm also bummed on how it's affected my business.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Right Like, I don't feel good either, So let's not.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's not. This is so for me. It's like,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna come to me and be mad over
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: something I can do, Like what was I going to do?
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Be like, hey, Alex Baskin, producer of Housewives, can you
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: please ignore everything that's going on and bring me back.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: One of my friends is a little irritated, right.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Like, why is this all of a sudden about her
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: and not about you? You know, I don't have I
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: keep so few people close that I think there are
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: different levels different Well, there are acquaintances, you know. So
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the people that are close to me are close to me,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: and yeah, I haven't. I don't think anybody in my
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: adult relationships.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Do you think your friends are similar to you or different?
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Like Liyah, for example, I think is like she feels
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: like a pulled back.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: But she's quiet strength, quiet strength. She's very scrappy, but
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: she's very quiet strengths.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: She keeps it undercover, very but she gets sh done
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: within seconds.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: She does. And she's also tough. She's very tough, but
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't. She's not projecting it outward. Yeah, I'm trying
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: to think like friendships. No, but I've cut some people
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: out romantically like that. I've seen post divorce that I
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: think we're just not the best. Ye.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: How long did it take you to figure that out?
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Too long? You know what I mean? Too long and
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: not that in the sense that, oh my god, I
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: wasted time because look whatever that means, but it was
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: just like it wasn't necessary and looking back on it now,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I'm glad that that's sober.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, we got to get back to the word
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: we don't like to use.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: What's that one?
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: We're going We're on to the second page.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: We are what do we have love languages or their friendship? Okay,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: sweepy as being in the public life changed the way
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: you trust or form new friendships. Absolutely, but you've always
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: been in the public eye like you guys have always
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: even though you grow I know you always say this.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: We grew up on Hilton Head. My dad's from Indiana,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Like I get it. But your father was like a
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: really big star. So don't tell me both of you
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: that that didn't come into play like people knew so
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: did you ever see?
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: But we were chosen too at that point. We were
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: like he had two like tall ass sons that played
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: like rugby or whatever.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I have to stop you. I knew your dad was
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: a big rock star, like and I'm older than you,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: so to me, you've always been the children, Like I
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: knew that there were other kids, but.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: But we got more attention. We got more attention from
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: like I just did an interview with Shep. We got
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: more attention from my mom because my mom like we
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: had like a big party house and like, yeah, like
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: everybody would talk about Vicky, you know, like so it's
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: yeah and the monkey, the monkey, the monkey mean to you, Yeah,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I think we always did have our dad.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: But because we put even though other people may have
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: put him on a pedestal.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Oh no, he's just your dad.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: We didn't.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: And by the way, I had to defend John Mellencamp
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: the other day Teddy in an interview. Did you know that?
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I did.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: I thought I was going over there to talk to
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: masked singer and this dude says, so John Mellencamp says
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: he's preparing for the muscle. I said, whoa, this is
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: like humorous, like let's not go down.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Like I made a total freaking joke about it. And
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: he was like, let's pick our top six And I'm like,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: what are we going back to? What was it before Facebook?
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Or that my Space? The top six? But I just
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: want you to know, like in that interview, I was like, what,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: like what the fuck? Like, don't don't make this dark,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: like this was something that they you know that you
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: and your father were talking about this. There's humor in
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: the here.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: And in that same token like here he knows me
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: well enough. Like I even told my sister when she came,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no crying around. I don't want to.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I don't want to hear it.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: But my dad knows that I need like some comedy
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: to this because his next quote or his next thing
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: was like, all right, now we actually really do have
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: to get talking serious, like we need to talk about
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: your will and like your living trust and like do
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the things we need to do, you know. But like
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: sometimes I don't want just someone to come pummel me,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: like let's.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Joke, let's have a good time, because he thinks are
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: so heavy.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was like, no, I don't. I don't
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: think John Minnett like that, Like, yeah, don't don't do
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: this to me right now. I'm a fuck you up.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I was really pissed.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: And then is coming from I know it was, and
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: it was everywhere, like that day that was everywhere, and
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: so was me getting in an altercation. I've been for
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: the dogs.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like telling you, we're the most calm
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: person in the entire.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I was like, can I not get a fucking break.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not even trying to fight with anyone.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Even what you did in your past life to deserve
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: all this chaos, I.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Must have done some fucked up shit.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: So do you think that you you're okay? So we're
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: talking about you being in the public eye. I think
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: you've been in the public eye since you were young.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: So you know, what, do you have any new friends? No?
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: No, I keep the same friend I mean I have
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: my most recent set of friends, our friends that I
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: met and Mommy and Me with Slate. Okay, so because
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: that's when you're you know, that's over ten years ago.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: It's because you have a big life change, and there were.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: People bond with women that are doing like Matt.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Was one of my fucking friends. What am I going
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: to do with him? With my kids?
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: What you were.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Ten years ago? Not in Mommy and Me.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was like, you're and Mommy and me?
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: You have not Literally my brain I'm saying my current
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: friend group was askew.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm with it now.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Jeepers, I didn't know I was going to spell it
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: out on the pod. Now.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Are there any friendships that got stronger because of
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: what you went through on the show, Yes, you're looking
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: at it. Yeah, and I think that you know, people,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of people watch the show and they think
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: they know what the show is about or how you feel,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: but that's not true. The only people who really know
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: what the show does to them are the women that
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: have been on the show. And you do form real
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: friendships when you were not. I mean, there's some people
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: that we've worked with it that not one not one iota.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: But there's plenty of time where you form the friendships.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I would say we had some of our best laughs
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: on planes, of course. I mean, granted, our first time
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: we were filmed on a plane and that's when we
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: decided we didn't like each other.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: But after that start, but after.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: That, like our plane, right, because remember we would fly
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: thirty six hours to go somewhere for three days. Yes,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: so we were by the time our flight home, we
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: were just like can I sit next to Erica?
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Can I just sit next to you? Like, do
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: you have any snack? Do you want this? People don't
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: realize that, and you kind of bond in those situations.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I remember when Durit this is before you joined the cast,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: and I were not getting along in Hong Kong and
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: we had all just gotten rained on and we're all
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: sitting in the back of this mini van and she
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: had the poncho and she went just like, you know,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: like I was like thank you, you know, like we
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: were not gonna here.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I was like you like, no, you would do that
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: too with Tom's because I'd always get carsick. Eric would
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: be like, you didn't bring him again, and I was
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: like no, and you'd be.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Like, yes, here are your fucking tongues and fucking pregnant woman.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: And I was always fascinating. I have to roll down
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: the window. I'm so hot, like you were sick. I
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: was impressed. I want to tell everybody doing that.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I want to tell everybody about friendships. Sprinter van I said,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: we made friendships and planes, not sprinter vans. Sprinter Vans
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: is where you find the world. If they used all
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: the footage from the sprinter vans, all.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: The cussing out that we did of everybody.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Everyone, I mean, it didn't matter if it was one
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: of us, if it was one.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Of production, if it was anybody. Just the level of
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: anger in a sprinter van. No.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: We would get in and would be like, how long
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: to the horse riding that we're doing, and they'd be
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: like seventy two minutes and I'd be like, don't act
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: like that's not more than an hour, because you said
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: seventy two you know.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Like it was very tough. We sprinter vans do not
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: do something wrong with them.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Why they need to get better recording in there, because
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: that is they don't. Yes, you know what it will
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: they get down?
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: No, do not get better recording in the sprinter van.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I appreciate Erica is not her friendliest and a sprinter
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: She might need more tumps and other things.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I need lots of other things. The sprinter vans make
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: me wild. I don't know what it is. I just
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: I think because the seats are so uncomfortable.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: And if you have to sit backwards, or if you're
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: late and you have to sit said someone you don't like,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: and then you're like, they're not going to use this anyway,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: and now this person doesn't want to talk.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: But I you know, it's funny because we were talking
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: at the reunion about how d was smoking a sig
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: in the car and Kyle said, oh, you never thought
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: that they'd use that, and I go, oh, they use.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: I assume everything they'll use, like.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: And this isn't to dog out to read. I love
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: to read, and I've smoked a sig myself, or a
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: vape or whatever.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: You know, the first time I saw you smoking was
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: with the crew and Provence when you were drunk. I
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: didn't know Teddy drunk smoke. I didn't know Teddy smoked
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: until I caught her out back in France smoking. I
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, misfitness. She watched Miss Lifestyle.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: And I was great. I'm like, I was curious because
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: the only person that actually carried six what were dread
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: And I went to smoking parliaments and no, hers are
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: parliament lights snow with whatever menthols.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: And so I'm like, wow, she smokes American spirits, but
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I know she smoked pfunks.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: So I had to move on from her, and I
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: went to the crew andmy, does anyone have a cigarette
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: that doesn't have menthol in it?
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I saw you back there smoking in a skirt and drunk,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: and I was like, what the fuck part of the
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: show is this? I had no idea.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I mean even Chris walked out to yell at me,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: like get back in there.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: I know that's what I saw.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: But that's why I never thought that they would use
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: to eat smoking on camera.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Because I was smoking with the camera. Man.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: That's my point. Thank you Pablo for never sharing, Fuck
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: off Erica for sharing well whatever, but it's not why
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I got the cancers. Guys, it's a different kind My metastaised.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: You had this, do you know I saw your skin
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: cancer with that night in Vegas that we're talking about.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I saw it on your shoulder. I can tell you
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: what you're wearing, wearing a black romper. We were standing
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: on the balcony. It was at nighttime, it was the summertime,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: were standing in the Venetian and I saw this and
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I thought, oh my gosh, I wonder if those are
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: scars or something. I saw it. I was like the
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: first time I'd ever met. I was like, what is
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: that on her sid?
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Because what year was the first year that I came
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: on What I'm trying to remember.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Like, so I did season six, You came on season seven,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: and I think he went season eight.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: That was probably two thousand and seven.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Huh, seventeen, two thousand seventeen. Still not good with dates,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: still not good. Nineteen ninety, nineteen ninety nine.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Thought it was nineteen ninety nine for a long time
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: here recently.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety the whole time I was in the hospital,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I was like nine nine.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Good year.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: The year I graduated high school.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: That's what it is.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Eighty nine graduated high school.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: You didn't graduate high school barely? Oh you did, I'm saying,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: did you get kicked down.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: No, I just wanted to go to the horse shows
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: at the end. No, I would you know what, didn't
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: make it to college.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: But you guys do it just fining.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Keep tuning in to Diamonds in the Rough because, and
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: though it may be more rough than diamonds, half the
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: time when you listen to us, we're doing our best.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: We're having a great time. I'm just happy to spend
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: the time with you and have you smiling and laughing.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I know, and I'm glad we're friends. It's brilliant.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: But let's fight next week. No, what can we fight
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: with about?
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Fighting about anything with you?
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what I could do to really
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: piss you off. No, I can pull your eyelash off.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: That would piss you off.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Here, do it right now. I'm not mad, Oh, Mike.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I'm mad because I didn't put any on today. Well, thanks, guys,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: tune in.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: So there's my in the woods. I love you.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: All we need is some kind of velvet outfit and
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: we're good to go.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Love you, love you, Bye bye, guys.