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NFL MVP Watch: Jordan Love, Joe Burrow & Trevor Lawrence in the Race · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome back to another episode, episode number
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  Speaker 1: 183 of the so-called Sports Analysts, where for the first
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  Speaker 1: time in forever, both of our fantasy football teams and
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  Speaker 1: professional teams won a game, Brecken.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even put two and two together, brother. I
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  Speaker 2: really didn't.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy, bro. Finally, about time. First time this.
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  Speaker 2: Happened in a year. It's a great day. It's a
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  Speaker 2: great day. I can't believe it.
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  Speaker 1: It is a great day. No, it is a great day. No, but, man,
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  Speaker 1: before we start, find us on Twitch, TikTok, Instagram, and
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  Speaker 1: Make sure you share this to anybody that likes sports.
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  Speaker 1: But let's go ahead and get into it, and we're
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  Speaker 1: going to start off with the annual Dynasty check. Or
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  Speaker 1: not annual, weekly Dynasty check. The weekly. In which, like
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  Speaker 1: how I said, we both got wins this week. So Brecken...
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  Speaker 1: The floor is yours.
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  Speaker 3: Starting off with my team for all the viewers out there.
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  Speaker 3: As you can tell, I recently picked up Audrick Estime
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  Speaker 3: and dropped Luke Musgrave. Huge move by me. And he
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  Speaker 3: actually had a pretty good day.
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  Speaker 2: He did have a pretty good day. And I was
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  Speaker 2: planning on starting him over Ray Davis. I had family
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  Speaker 2: in town. The in-laws were in.
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  Speaker 3: I was busy and I just completely forgot to make
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  Speaker 3: that adjustment. Um, cause I got this waiver that came
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  Speaker 3: through Sunday morning. Cause Kendrick Miller, I think was dropped
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  Speaker 3: like Saturday afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So I was like, bet I'm going to get Audrey customer.
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  Speaker 3: And my running backs are so depleted in dynasty. We
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  Speaker 3: know this, my team is depleted. My running back is,
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  Speaker 3: I can't figure it out, but, um, yeah, I have
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  Speaker 3: my lowest scoring week of the year, like by far,
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  Speaker 3: like this is 40 points less than what I typically score.
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  Speaker 2: And I catch a dub because of the tear gap.
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  Speaker 3: And luckily I went against, you know, the guy that
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  Speaker 3: did punishment last year. And is on pace to do
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  Speaker 3: it again this year with Ryan. Not the Ryan on
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  Speaker 3: the pod, Ryan O.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But, yeah, Drake May, the schedule, comes out, throws three interceptions,
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  Speaker 3: has like negative six points.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, all right, he's doing it again. He's
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  Speaker 2: doing it again.
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  Speaker 3: But saved me. Came back, threw some touchdowns. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we watched the game.
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  Speaker 2: It was bad.
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  Speaker 3: It was really bad. I kind of blame Gonzo more.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll talk about that game later. But bad
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  Speaker 3: game overall. Drake May put up some decent fantasy football stats.
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  Speaker 3: The fact that Daniel Jones is still starting in Indy
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  Speaker 3: blows my mind. I legit think if they started AR,
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  Speaker 3: they would have beat you guys.
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  Speaker 2: It was such a close game for no reason. I know, bro.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: Ray Davis, accidental start. You know, imagine Audrick Esme was
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  Speaker 3: in there. And then Elijah Mitchell. That's my two starting
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  Speaker 3: running backs. You have to start two in this league.
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  Speaker 3: And my two starters are Elijah Mitchell and Ray Davis,
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  Speaker 3: both guys that I picked up off of waivers, like,
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  Speaker 3: within the last two weeks. These guys weren't on teams,
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  Speaker 3: and they're starting in my lineup. But this is where
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  Speaker 3: my bread and butter, the cream, rises to the top.
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  Speaker 3: Let me tell you, brother. Malik, neighbors, just doing what
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  Speaker 3: he does week in, week out. Yes, he only has
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  Speaker 3: nine points, doesn't find the end zone. His quarterback goes
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  Speaker 3: down with an injury. Maybe you want to blame it
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  Speaker 3: on that. Or you could blame it on the fact
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  Speaker 3: that Isaiah Likely kind of went off and stole a
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  Speaker 3: lot of his work. Jamar Chase picks up his slack.
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  Speaker 3: He basically had all 31 points in the first half.
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  Speaker 3: It was absolutely insane. I think he only had, like,
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  Speaker 3: one more catch in the second half. And then the
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  Speaker 3: rest was Tee Higgins. Chris Olave kind of got saved
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  Speaker 3: a little bit in overtime. I think he was sitting around, like,
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  Speaker 3: 12 points or something like that. And then in overtime,
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  Speaker 3: he had that amazing catch. Or Chuck really had an
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  Speaker 3: amazing throw. And he had a really good catch to
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  Speaker 3: push us to end up winning the game. Tucker Kraft
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  Speaker 3: had his worst day in a really long time.
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  Speaker 2: But, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: if you looked at that offense and you looked at
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  Speaker 3: the other receivers, they were pulling everything in like, like
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  Speaker 3: he didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Even have a chance.
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  Speaker 3: So Tucker craft is like your red zone guy. These
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  Speaker 3: guys were scoring from 30 plus yards out. So he
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  Speaker 3: didn't even have a shot to really go off. Um,
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  Speaker 3: Kyle pits, dude, he had like a 13 yard drop.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, are you shitting me?
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  Speaker 3: Turned around on like third and eight caught, caught a pass,
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  Speaker 3: hurt a little guy, stiff arm. Somebody got like 18
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  Speaker 3: yards and, On third down, and I'm like, bad dude.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a holding penalty. Brings it back.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, every single time Kyle Pitts does something good,
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  Speaker 3: that's what ends up happening. Casey Concepcion was keeping it close, man.
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  Speaker 3: I was watching him go off against the Saints, and
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  Speaker 3: it was nerve-wracking.
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  Speaker 2: Ladd McConkie.
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  Speaker 1: Ladd, the guy you traded for. I did.
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  Speaker 2: I gave up a second for him. And I still
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  Speaker 2: don't hate it. I still don't hate it. I really
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  Speaker 2: am banking.
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  Speaker 3: On the fact that Mike McDaniels is going to get
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  Speaker 3: fired here pretty soon. And this team, they said that
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  Speaker 3: they were going to simplify the playbook and yada, yada, yada.
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  Speaker 3: They're so out of whack and all this stuff. But
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  Speaker 3: Ladd McConkie, the fact that he got injured during warm-ups
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  Speaker 3: and it wasn't brought up. No, like they didn't report
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  Speaker 3: it until the game started. Because the game started and
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  Speaker 3: he went to questionable like three minutes into the game
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  Speaker 3: because it was never reported that he wasn't going to
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  Speaker 3: start the game. Because literally the announcers are like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this is the first time all season that the starting
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  Speaker 3: lineup has been the same two games in a row.
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  Speaker 2: That's not even true.
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  Speaker 3: Because Ladd didn't see the field. He didn't suit up.
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  Speaker 3: He got injured during warm-ups. And the fact that I
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  Speaker 3: got cut because of that. Like, I almost ended up,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know I only scored 111 points or
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  Speaker 3: 113 points, but, like, and I still got the win, but, man,
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  Speaker 3: if I was going against anybody else, I would have
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  Speaker 3: been so mad.
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  Speaker 1: You would have been pissed off, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then Jaden.
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  Speaker 3: Daniels, I was going to start Shuck over Daniels because
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  Speaker 3: of the matchup because I knew that Aaron Donald and
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  Speaker 3: Myles Garrett were playing their first game together, and it
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  Speaker 3: really scared me. But I was like, no, like, Jaden
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  Speaker 3: Daniels is pretty good. Like, let's just leave him in.
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  Speaker 3: He does decent. He doesn't really, he doesn't play bad,
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  Speaker 3: but he doesn't play great. I mean, look at his receivers. Like,
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  Speaker 3: can you really blame him?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: My kicker missed a field goal, but made all of
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  Speaker 2: his extra points.
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  Speaker 3: He's kind of, I hit waiver wires for kickers now
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  Speaker 3: because I dropped fucking Evan McPherson.
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  Speaker 2: And he's been like, he's been like kicker three. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so Tyler Shuck on my bench. Should have
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  Speaker 2: started him.
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  Speaker 3: But Audrick Estime, the guy I was talking about, man, 14.7 points.
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  Speaker 3: What's so funny is you look at my bench running backs,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like Chris Rodriguez Jr. casually got a touchdown. Like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't score 10 points, but one other time this
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  Speaker 3: season gets 11.
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  Speaker 2: And then Justice Hill runs like a 60. Did you see?
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  Speaker 2: It was like a 60-yard touchdown. Yeah. And so it's like,
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  Speaker 2: what the hell? And I didn't start either of them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'll scroll down. Look, there's somebody else you missed. Keep scrolling.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: Keep scrolling.
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  Speaker 2: Even more.
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  Speaker 1: Scroll more. Darren Waller.
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  Speaker 2: Darren Waller.
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  Speaker 3: I did forget about Darren Waller. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: my gosh, he's going off. And I've started him, like,
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  Speaker 3: almost every week out of necessity because my team's so hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, I've had so many guys. Like, look at my team.
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  Speaker 3: I have so many guys that are like, Okay, I
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  Speaker 3: probably should have started Caleb.
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  Speaker 2: Douglas, right?
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  Speaker 3: Like, he's been doing pretty decent for the year or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: But I was like, you know, whatever, whatever. Like, at
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  Speaker 3: my flex position, I was like, Kyle Pitts has been doing,
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  Speaker 3: you know, pretty good. Lad McConkie, like, he just had
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  Speaker 3: 14 points. I traded for him last week. He had
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  Speaker 3: 14 points last week. And I was like, okay, am
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  Speaker 3: I going to start one of those guys over either
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  Speaker 3: one of these two? And I was like, ah, maybe,
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  Speaker 3: maybe not. I probably should have started him over Kyle Pitts. But,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Kyle Pitts, he'll give you, you know, a
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  Speaker 3: week of 15 points, 23 points, 13 points, but then he'll.
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  Speaker 2: Give you 2.6, 5.3.
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  Speaker 3: So he's a– That's a Kyle Pitts experience.
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  Speaker 2: But he's my GOAT, man. He's won me. He won
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  Speaker 2: me the chip.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true. Yeah. Mm-hmm. What was it, back-to-back
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  Speaker 1: weeks of what, 45? Something like that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like 40 plus, something like that. It was insane.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, that's like a butterfly effect. That's a butterfly effect.
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  Speaker 1: If I don't trade you Kyle Pitts, bro, you don't
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  Speaker 1: win it. Who was it that scored like 220 against
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  Speaker 1: you and lost? Who was it?
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  Speaker 2: It was either Josh or Damien because I beat them back-to-back.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was Brendan.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if he made playoffs. I could look.
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  Speaker 1: Last year?
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  Speaker 2: Where do I leak?
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: It's like leak history, something like that. I know it's settings.
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  Speaker 2: 2025.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I beat your dad. He scored 150. Week 16.
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  Speaker 3: Josh scored 127.
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  Speaker 2: I scored 131. Was it the first round then? It was, Brendan.
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  Speaker 2: It was, Brendan.
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  Speaker 1: He scored 202.
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  Speaker 2: I scored 243.
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  Speaker 1: How much did Pitts give you?
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  Speaker 2: Let's look. Let's look.
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  Speaker 1: 44.
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  Speaker 2: It's so funny. Dude, that is so insane. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say, I probably would have beat
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  Speaker 3: him even if I didn't have Kyle Pitts, but he
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  Speaker 3: would have beat me by like two points.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, imagine scoring 200 and getting your ass kicked in
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  Speaker 1: fantasy football, bro.
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  Speaker 2: Uh-huh. Dude, he had such a.
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  Speaker 1: Good team last year, and he just blew it all up. Oh, T-Law.
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  Speaker 2: I forgot T-Law had 55.
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  Speaker 1: That is when T-Law went crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. That's insane. Love it, bro.
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  Speaker 3: Love it.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, if you look at his team, if he just
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: didn't trade players. Dude, I know. I get that he's hurt.
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  Speaker 2: He's been underperforming. He's been good, but like Puka, Ladd underperforming. But, like, Loveland,
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  Speaker 2: Michael Wilson.
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  Speaker 3: And then I think he drafted. Did he draft Jadarian Price?
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  Speaker 2: Who did he draft? I don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: No, he got him from Ryan. So, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: who he drafted. It was something. Oh, okay. Okay, now
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  Speaker 1: to the number one team in the league, which where
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: we chop wood and carry water. So, We won this week,
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: but there's a little bit of losses that happen in
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  Speaker 1: or afterwards after finding out what happened on Monday. And
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  Speaker 1: the biggest news of them all is Puka being out
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  Speaker 1: at least four weeks. He has any injury that you
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: could think of, a PCL, MCL, and turf toe. So
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  Speaker 1: these next four weeks, luckily I'm off to an 8-1 start,
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  Speaker 1: but he's been one of the best wide receivers so far.
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  Speaker 1: Just his points... 12, 27, 37, 14, 21, 25, 35.
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  Speaker 1: That's like quarterback numbers in this league. So losing him,
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  Speaker 1: that's definitely a big loss. So I might make another trade, guys. Maybe, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see. Since my team, I know it's this good. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: the biggest thing, Bracken, I'm not going to lie. I
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  Speaker 1: kind of sketched it out. I'm like, okay, if I
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  Speaker 1: get the bye week, he has to be back week 15.
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  Speaker 1: So he could be out six weeks. And I could
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  Speaker 1: get Puka back. So I already mapped it out.
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  Speaker 2: Just for the playoffs?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just for the playoffs. Like, that's when he would
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  Speaker 1: be back. And I'm like, okay, the Rams would be
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  Speaker 1: in position to try to get the playoffs so they'd
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: be force feeding it to Puka. So as long as
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  Speaker 1: he comes back, it might work out in my favor. But, like,
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  Speaker 1: that's if he gets back. I think he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be back in, like, they said at least four weeks.
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  Speaker 1: So that's where it's a little scary. That's where it's
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  Speaker 1: a little scary.
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  Speaker 3: I will say, what sucks about those teams is, I
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: feel like the Rams, 49ers, Packers, just those teams in general.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is about the whole McVeigh
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  Speaker 3: tree and all of them.
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  Speaker 1: They run receivers to the ground, bro.
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  Speaker 2: Well, not just that, but they're so....
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  Speaker 3: Like privated about injuries, which makes sense, right? Like if
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  Speaker 3: I'm a coach, that's what I'm doing too. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: letting a team get any sort of advantage. I'm saying
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  Speaker 3: that Puka Nakua is good until Saturday night at 8 p.m., right?
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  Speaker 3: And then, like, so I don't blame them there. But
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  Speaker 3: then on the other side, like for us fantasy football fans,
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  Speaker 3: it sucks.
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  Speaker 2: Whenever CMC is being reported. Yeah, he looks really good.
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  Speaker 3: And then a week later, he's in Germany getting stem
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  Speaker 3: cell shots in his spine because he can't fucking walk.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's like, yeah, it's like those, like the,
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  Speaker 3: like the coast, those coaches and that coaching tree, I
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  Speaker 3: get it as, as like a NFL coach wise.
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  Speaker 2: But man, it sucks as a fantasy player. And, and okay.
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  Speaker 1: As, as a fantasy player as well, too, you already
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  Speaker 1: won the game. You just need to run the ball. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it'd be different if a receiver is not getting involved.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, let's give him a spark. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Let's give him a jet sweep.
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  Speaker 1: Let's give him an ending round, a screen pass. Bro
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  Speaker 1: literally had 19 targets. And at the end of the game,
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  Speaker 1: you're running a jet sweep for him. Like, what is
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  Speaker 1: this for? What is this for? But as far as
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  Speaker 1: entirety of the fantasy team, Baby Goat, he had 15
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  Speaker 1: points to start off the game. The first two drives.
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  Speaker 1: He ended with 16 because he had four interceptions, which
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  Speaker 1: we're going to get to that game a little bit later. So,
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  Speaker 1: not the best. Ashton Gentry, panic level? I'm not going
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: to lie to you. Panic level is at a five.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad I traded him in redraft, brother.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you. Panic level is at a five.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: It's a little scary. DeAndre Swift, Bucs have a good
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  Speaker 1: run defense. And then, plus, Ben Johns forgot to run
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  Speaker 1: the ball the entire time. So, I mean... I'm not
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: worried about that. The Luther truther, like I said from
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, Luther Burden. Ever since Caleb
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Williams got back against Atlanta, he's been amazing. 17, 23, 18, 20.
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  Speaker 1: He's been a top 10 wide receiver the last four weeks. So,
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  Speaker 1: love to see it. Parker Washington, one big play. Not
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  Speaker 1: game script, so still gave a good 14 points. Puk,
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  Speaker 1: I already talked about him. McBreezy, tough matchup. Still at 12. Basial, again,
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  Speaker 1: Not the best. Then Malik Washington, 4, had to start
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  Speaker 1: him just because other people were on bye weeks. And Mr.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Mr. Joe Burrow, which we'll talk about, may
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: be the MVP of the league right now. And he's
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: on pace to be with the all-time records of Peyton Manning,
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady.
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  Speaker 2: Drew Brees.
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  Speaker 1: Ever since I traded for him, 32, 37, 50, 35.
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  Speaker 1: So all I could say is keep it up, Joe Burrow. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just another week, 173, highest score. And Hector, who I
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: thought was going to be an easy week, scored top
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  Speaker 1: four in fantasy this week. So I guess just everybody's
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: bringing their best shot. So going to 8-1. And then Eddie,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Eddie lost. So I have a two-game
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  Speaker 1: lead over everybody in the league.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Where am I at on the– Because I needed Josh
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: to lose. He won. I needed.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Jesse lost.
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  Speaker 2: Jesse did lose, but I'm like 4-4, aren't I?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's going to go to 5-4.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: He's going to go to 5-4.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan's going to 5-4.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: And I have more points than Jesse. So I'll pass Jesse,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: but not Ryan.
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  Speaker 1: So you'll be in the playoffs as of right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as of right now, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: A fringe guy. Dude, and Brandon, with 935 points, as
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: of right now, he's in playoff contention right now. He's 4-5. Dude, it.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Makes no sense. And then there's the bottom feeders, the
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: little guppies down here.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Dude, for real, Damien and then Ryan, bro. I know, bro.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Dude, what a bum. What a bum.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Nah, but okay.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Now back to as far as NFL football right here,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: which we'll get to. Monday Night Football, Bills versus Vikings,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: which it was a hyped-up game. Bills go to 7-1. Vikings,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: they go to 6-2. What did you take away from
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: this one?
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Man, I feel so bad for the Vikings fans. I
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: know me and Ryan are high on the Vikings because
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: their defense is good.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: They blitz at such a high rate. and it's so successful.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Their blitz rate and the way.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: That they gain success from blitzing is the same way
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: as a team that's able to throw over the middle 15,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: 20-plus yards. If you're able to hit that three-pointer in
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: the NFL, you know what I'm saying, that three-point play,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: that's what it is with these Vikings being able to blitz.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: And whenever they're blitzing... They're hitting players on the way
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: to the quarterback. So whenever the Buffalo Bills would run
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: the ball, like James Cook's getting hit on the way
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: to Josh Allen every single time. And their physical presence
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: is just overwhelming the Bills O-line and everything. And they
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: were just– the defense was playing amazing. Like I know
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: they scored 23 points, but in reality this is the
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: best offense in the NFL. They've been the best offense
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: in the NFL. And Josh Allen has been, you know,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: playing really good. And they've just... They played a really
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: good game. And then there in the fourth quarter, you
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: can only do so much, right?
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: So, and for... I can't believe that Carson Wentz played
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: as long as he did.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I thought he was going to get pulled out, like,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: before halftime, dude. And so the fact that he kept
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: on going blows my mind. Throws two interceptions. Like, just
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: doesn't look good. Can't, like, can't move... um is like
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: he basically he fumbled the ball in reality um on
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: that pass justin jefferson how are you overthrowing you know
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: a guy that can jump out of the gym yeah
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: and you're overthrowing him like crazy it's just you you
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: gotta feel bad for them because kyler murray's like not
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: really that much better in reality like yes he has
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: been yeah like he's been playing better than this but
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: like oh my gosh are you serious like they both
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: suck and then on top of that call of duty
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: came out gta is coming out like who knows right
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: that's like who knows yeah like like was gta 5
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: around whenever kyler murray was first in league like.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: When was the release date on that like like it.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Was already it was already out by then So he was,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: you know, new GTA 6.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyler's going to be.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Dude, I didn't even think about that. Call of Duty
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: just came out and Kyler just went out with the injury.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Holy crap, bro. The streak does continue with Kyler Murray.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: No, like, I was thinking, I'm like, okay, Carson Wentz
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: is going to be started. Maybe this will add, like,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: a spark or something. Oh, my gosh, this added the
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: opposite of a spark right here.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: No, like, going in, I was like, why, like, like,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: I get that Kyler Murray's injured, but, like, why go
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: with Wentz? Like, why, like, like, we need to, like,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: like I said last week, whenever the Ravens traded for Jacoby,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: I was like, what about Anthony Richardson, right? Like, I
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: get that, like, yes, he's not a great player. He
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: hasn't played that good in the NFL. But, like, in reality,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: he's a freak athlete. You see what you have.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: You're the supposedly quarterback whisperer. Yeah, exactly.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: So go out there with AR-15 and make him good, right?
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: And it's just, like, be creative. Don't go out there
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: with Carson Wentz, who hasn't been good since 2017, and
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: expect to win an NFL game against the best team.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: In the NFL.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: And the fact that they didn't, like, on trade deadline,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I understand that Herbert might be
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: out of fact.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Like, that's not going to be realistic. But, like, you've
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: got to think, like, Tua, Mac Jones. Like, there's got
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: to be somebody that you're like, hey, I'll give a third. Like,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: if you call up the 40. Yeah, I don't know
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: about Geno. But because, like, he's a starter. He's on.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: The Jets aren't playing.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Horrible but yeah yeah i buy that yeah.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: But i mean still still in reality like why not
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: call up one of these teams like call up for
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: drew lock right and be like hey we'll give you
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: like a third for him don't you'll take that in
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: a heartbeat you know like he's not gonna see like
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: in reality if you can get a third round pick
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: for mac jones the 49ers fans are gonna be like
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, hell yeah. Like we'll take a third round pick,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: you know, that could be a starting offensive lineman or
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: defensive tackle. And then for your team, like Mac Jones,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: see what, see what he could do. He's played good
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: recently in the NFL, you know? So yeah, the fact
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: that they didn't do anything at the trade deadline is
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: where they like lost this week completely. And I think this,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: this might be like a start of a skid for them.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Like there's so, they have a brutal start to their schedule.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Like, are you saying like, like it's coming up? It's
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: so bad. And then on top of that, like, It's
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: got to suck the.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Air out of the room whenever your team's playing.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Like, whenever you're playing this hard on two sides of, like,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: the special teams.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Two out of three, yeah.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, special teams is balling out. They have, like, the
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: best kicker in the NFL right now. And then their returner, Price, he's.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Been really good. I know he fumbled.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: But, like, he's been really good for the most part.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: And then your defense, I mean, it's top notch.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: It's the best defense in the NFL.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: And then for your offense to go out there and
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: be this bad, it's got to be so demoralizing. And
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: it's the fact that you know it's really just two
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: positions that need to be fixed.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: It's running back and quarterback.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: And the fact that neither of those were addressed whenever
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: you're 6-1.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: At the time. And, you know, like, everyone's going to
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: shit on the Colts, right? They look like dog shit.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: They gave up two first-round picks for Sus Gardner. But, like,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: at the time, it made sense. They were, what, like
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: 8-0 or something like that?
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they had, like, one loss. It was, like, 7-1,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: something like that.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so it's, like, why, like, in my mind,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I'm commending you.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Like, go out there. That's one of your needs.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Be aggressive, yeah.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like, maybe you overpaid a little bit, but you
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: got a guy that shut down, and you don't know
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: how often your team's going to be this good and, like,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: this far ahead of schedule in reality. Like, especially with
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: how old this team is, too. Like, we all know
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: that this is one of the oldest teams in the NFL.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: And so it's like some of these guys are going
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: to be retiring. Some of them are going to be
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: getting injured because, like, older guys just get injured more often.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: And it's like, it's just in reality, if we're not
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: making any, like, huge free agency splashes like the Jags did,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: lost them this week completely. And, like, okay, if they
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: went into this game, played like dog shit, lost like
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: how they did. but they made a free agency move.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: They got Jonathan Taylor. They went out and got a
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: quarterback with Mac Jones or something like that.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Then I would be like, yeah, they played like shit.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: They lost, but they addressed the two things that they need. Yeah, exactly.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen didn't play like... He played like he was
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: playing against the number one defense in the NFL.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: He was running for his life.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I think this is the best you could play against
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: a number one defense right here.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: He actually did look pretty decent. He looked a lot
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: better than Tyler Shuck did Against the Vikings.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: And that was Tyler Shuck's only bad game so far. Like,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I don't even think he had 100 passing yards. But
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen did look, like, pretty decent. He had that
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: one interception, which in reality, like, I thought.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: That was going to be a touchdown. It was a
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: good defensive play. I thought that was going to be
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: a touchdown. But it was a great defensive play.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: And then James Cook, I mean, you've got to give
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: respect to the– Joe Brady?
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Joe Brady, sorry. You got to give respect to him
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: to sticking to the run 31 rush attempts.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know, yeah.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Dude, but it's like that's what you asked for. Like
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I said.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: What was it, like two, three weeks ago, whenever Kendrick
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Miller ran the ball 22 times for 70 yards, I'm like,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I get that he's not doing super, like it's not efficient,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: but it's moving the ball down the field, it's wasting
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: the clock, and it won them this game. He ended
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: up scoring a touchdown, and it wears down a defense
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: over time Even a defense like this that's, you know,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: the best defense in the NFL. Like, I think at
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: first he was, like, 12 rushes for, like, 13, 18 yards.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: He had 15 for, like, 33 yards at one point. Yeah,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: it was horrible.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: It was horrible.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: But, like, as you can tell, as the game goes on,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: you just kind of wear the team down. And that's
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: what we've seen, like, Derrick Henry do in the past and, like,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: all these other great running backs. And so you just
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: got to give commitment to, like, sticking to it, even
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: though it's not working. You got to stick to a
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: game plan. And, I mean, it worked out, and the
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Bills came out on top, and they're looking like maybe
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: the best team in the NFL right now.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: And one thing I'm going to add on to your
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: last point, like, that's why, like, Ryan and I always
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: go back and forth, obviously, like, it's just bantering, but, like,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: that's why I always say, like, in the group chat,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the Vikings can't be taken seriously until they address, like
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: you're saying, one of the two, which I don't think
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: it's realistic for a quarterback to be traded. Like, Mack Jones,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: it makes sense, but coming from the Niner side... Yes,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: we'd get a third-round pick, but then we'd instantly make
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you guys a tier above where you are competing on
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: our level now.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have to be like an AFC team
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: or something like that. I get what you're saying.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: It would have to be something like that. Like Jonathan Taylor,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that would be a lot more interesting, but for some
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: reason the Colts don't want to trade away a guy
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: on an expiring contract. I don't know. That's a whole
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: different thing.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: No.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: I literally traded for him planning for him to go
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: so i was like yeah they're saying that he's gonna
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: go somewhere.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Else i mean well the trade deadline is tomorrow like
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: at two or three o'clock so there's still there's still
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: time there there's still.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Time i guess technically yes but.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah there there still is time technically but like the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: biggest thing i want to bring out of this and
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: i was wondering what the time time possession was going
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: to be the Vikings had the ball on offense for
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: a total of 17 minutes. 17 minutes compared to the
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Bills' 43. Like you're saying, you could have the greatest
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: defense in the world. If they're on the field for
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: three quarters, practically three quarters, you're not going to be
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: the best defense. And even at that, it took till
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter for them to start actually being worn down.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: If anything, this is a credit to how good the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Vikings' defense is. But If you have a running game,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: not even saying Jonathan Taylor, but like a Tony Pollard,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: like something like that. Brees Hall, check that because Braylon
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Allen or something that could bring you up just a
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: little bit. I don't know. Maybe even like a Dobbins
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: because Denver's going more Jonah Coleman, RJ Harvey's going to
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: get back. I don't know. Something like that works.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: That would be J.K.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Dobbins or like a Tony Pollard would be like.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Perfect yeah like be like super.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Like a little tear yeah like so like i don't
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: know i'm trying to see any other teams but like
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: i i can't see nothing for the vikings like in
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: all honesty their next two games are versus the packers
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: which we'll talk about the packers and how great they're
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: playing and then they have the niners And then who knows?
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: They have the Falcons next, which we don't know which Falcons.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: You're either going to get the greatest team ever or
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: you're going to get the worst team ever. So depending
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: on who they play, then after that, they have the Panthers,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: which they should win. But then you have the Patriots
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: and Lions. And then you have the Bears the last
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: week of the season. So your schedule is not getting
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: any easier at all. And if you're not going to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: make no moves, I see you losing all of those
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: tough games in all honesty. Like, I see that happening
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: very easily. Not to mention the standings. They went from
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: first place. Now after two back-to-back losses, they're in third place.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: And if they lose to the Packers next week, they're
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: going to be fourth in the division. So there's no
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: room for error in this NFC North. And... I don't know.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: It makes me mad because this is the opposite of
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys where you have such a great offense and
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: a bad defense. And you have a bad offense and
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: a great defense. And you can, at least with your offense,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: you could scheme up with Kevin O'Connell, offensive savant. You
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: have some things where you've seen success. And you can't
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: manage anything. If you could score 17 points a game,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I promise you, they would win any game. They would
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: win any game. Not even exaggerating.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like last week, Detroit, a top three offense in
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: the NFL, scored 19 points on them.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: And then this week, the Bills scored 23, the best
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: offense in the NFL. And so it's like, They're doing
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: their job in reality. And then on top of that,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: they probably don't even score that many points if they're
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: able to actually catch their breath and take a break
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: from playing the game. If they're able to catch their
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: breath on the sidelines, maybe they don't give up 10
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: points in the fourth quarter. And in reality, this is
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: a 16-6 loss.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Dude, just.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: It's frustrating. Trade Dak for the entire... Brian Flores.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: There you go. Trade Dak for Brian Flores, man.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Then we'd have a great defense and a terrible offense.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: We'd be the Vikings all over again, bro.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: No, you'd have Sam Howell. You'd have Sam Howell. Sammy Sosa, baby.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, Sam Howell, bro. Shout out him.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: No, but.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to this next game we have right here,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: which I don't know. This game seemed like a blowout
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: at first. It was Sunday night football. It was 14-0
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: to start off. And then after that, it was just
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: a meatball sub show like afterwards. The Bears, they win 27-24,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: game winning field goal. But like, I don't reckon, what
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: do you take away from this game? Like, I honestly
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: don't know what to think.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Man, Todd Bowles is keeping it simple.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Just give Bucky Irving the ball, you know, 30 times
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: a fucking game. Like, he's been, I think it's like
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: three or four weeks in a row where he's had
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: like 20-plus touches, and.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: He's just like eating.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: It's not even necessarily that he's like getting huge explosive plays.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: It's just he's literally ripping them off at like five-plus
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: yards a carry.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, five a play, yeah.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like his longest run will turn around and
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: be like 13 yards. And you're like, what the fuck, dude?
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Like every other– it's third and four and they run
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: the ball and they get it. And you're like, what
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: the hell is going on?
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: But the Bears– Caleb Williams, what is going on? Like, okay,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: you look– he puts together two drives. The Lions whole
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: team puts together two drives where you're like, yeah, this
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: is going to be embarrassing. Like this is going to
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: be bad, right? To turn around– and be like, hey,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: watch this. It was like Caleb Williams got in the
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: huddle and was like, hey, we're whooping the fuck out
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: of these guys. We know how shitty the Bucs are.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do some dumb shit and let's see
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: if we still win.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? It's like, watch, I'm going
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: to throw four interceptions. Let's see if we can still
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: beat this shit team. And that's what they did. They
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: literally went out there and did it. It was such
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: a bad game. It was so... Oh, dude. It was
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: so hard to watch. It was just.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: I wish that the Bears ran the ball more. I
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: get that Vita Vea eats up the run and stuff,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: but like I said on the previous game, just keep
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: running it. You'll get there eventually. Their linebackers aren't that great.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Their DBs aren't that good. So it's like Swift will
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: get there eventually. Should have ran the ball a little
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: bit more, probably thrown it a little bit less, especially
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: whenever Caleb's throwing it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: You know, four interceptions.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: But he's also, he's like throwing bullshit. It's not like
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: he's throwing like where it's like a mental mistake. He's throwing,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: like he's running out to his right, throwing cross body,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: 40 yards downfield.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: And it's getting picked off.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: And then it's like, yeah, it's like something like.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: And so it's the James Winston of it all.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: And so, but that's also why you love him because
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: he can make that throw. So, yeah.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: But they get out of there with a win, so
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: I'm happy. The Bucs lost, so I'm happy. But, man,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: what an odd game.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's like a good game, a bad game.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I think it was just kind of like a, oh, shit. Oh, oh, oh, shit.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Like you're going to watch.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: That's really what we were doing. Yeah, that's really what
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: we were doing. We were watching the entire game. Like,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I don't, okay, like how you were saying, I feel
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: like this gives even more props to Joe Brady as
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: you brought it up. Actually staying consistent, running the ball.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Because the first two drives, I know that big play
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: or that big second drive, it was Luther Burden just
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: being amazing. But they were actually running the ball. I'm
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: not even kidding. DeAndre Swift had eight of the carries
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: in the first two drives. And then had four the
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: last or the remaining of the game.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Caleb, yes, he played bad, but it doesn't help when
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: he's out of rhythm. And Ben Johns is like, you
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: know how you're going to get out of rhythm? we're
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: going to throw the ball more. Like, let's do that. And, like,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: none of it was, like, simple stuff. Like, Caleb played bad.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say, I'm not going to act
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: like this coming from a Caleb Williams fan. Caleb played bad.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: But I'll say this. When it came down to the
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: most important piece and the last drive you needed to score,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: he still delivered. Which, it's the Bucs. It's the Bucs.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: But you still have to win the games. And, like, Also, like,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: the Bucs game plan at first, they ran it, like,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: 12 straight times with Bucky Irving to start the game. So, like,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I don't get that. Like, I don't know. I don't
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: know what's going on with Baker. I know it's a
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: thumb issue, but he didn't look bad. He didn't look
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: bad in this game throwing the ball. So, I don't
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: know what that means, but the Bucs are alive. They're
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: third in the NFC South, but they're also tied with
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: the record, yeah. Or Panthers 3-5, Saints 3-5, Bucs 3-5.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Falcons 3-6.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Saints are in first, baby.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: The Saints, they are in first. What, they went from
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: last to first, right?
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they literally went from last place to first place
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: this week.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Dude, what a turnaround for the Saints, bro.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I know, what a great team. What a great team.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: The Kellen Moore Coach of the Year thing is not dead.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Just saying.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's fucking in the water, brother. No, bro. That
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: shit's in the water. There's no way.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: It's not dead. They could make the playoffs, bro. They
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: could make the playoffs.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: It's not dead. Okay, I guess I'm not going to
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: jinx anything.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: If Kellen Moore makes the playoffs, oh, dude, I almost
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: want to put money on that. If he's our coach
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: next year, I almost want to put money on that.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: But what's funny is we'll end up making the playoffs,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: and he'll be our coach next year, and I'm going
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: to be fucking so pissed.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Let's see. So, obviously, the Saints would be fourth right now,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: and they would be facing the Lions as of right now.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: And you know what's funny?
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I could see the Saints winning. That's our get-back game.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I could see the Saints beat the Lions. Yeah, we'll
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: beat the.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Lions, knock them out of the playoffs, everyone's so pissed,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: demanding that Dan Campbell gets fired, and then we turn
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: around and get fucking blown out by.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know. The Seahawks. I don't know. Some other team.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: We're just going to get absolutely whooped. And then next year,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: we'll just be shit again.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: That's how it goes. Kellen Moore keeps his job just
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: for one more year.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: That's how the NFC South operates, though. That's kind of
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: how all of us work. you know, play is we
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: don't do good.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: That is true with the Panthers last year. They made
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: it real competitive with the Rams.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Like they kept it really close.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: No, but I think the Panthers have the best, have
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: the best coach in the division for sure.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: In my opinion.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I love the guardian angel.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: You're not a Stefanski guy?
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not dude.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: That's been my one thing like between everybody that I've
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: ever talked to, I've just never liked Stefanski and, and a.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Lot of people do. And I just don't. He's un-inspirational.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: I think he could take a team that's really bad
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: and make them good. I don't think that he could
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: take a good team and make them amazing. Like, he'll
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: make your team disciplined. And he'll make your team, you know, good.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Like, a good team.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: He's like a culture builder.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, he's going to.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Go in and change how things are operated and make
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: you a debatable, playoff-worthy team. But in my mind, he's not,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: you know... Whenever I hire somebody, I want to hire
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: somebody like a, you know, like Donald.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: A Mike McDonald.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: A Mike McDonald, a McVay.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Van.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: McDaniels. No, I'm just kidding.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, Brian Schottenheimer. You want those type of guys.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those type of bucks. But, no, this game, the Bears,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: we got a little off topic.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Random game but it was good it was good Sunday
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: night football must watch TV it was entertaining.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: It was entertaining but let's get to a game where
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: it was kind of I thought it was going to
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: be a good game, but the Packers versus Patriots, where
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: the entire, literally Matt LaFleur's entire philosophy is, oh, you're
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: running quarters? You're not going to catch Christian Watson or
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Matt Golden. I'll tell you that. And the Packers, they
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: went 45-27 in this game, where Jordan Love, before Toyotathon,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: by the way, Toyotathon starts in A week and a half, too,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: and he's playing at Toyota Don level. So, maybe we're
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: seeing a different level with Jordan Love this year.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: That might be my MVP vote, man.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, what'd you take from this game right here?
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Dude, it started off so bad for the Patriots, and
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: it got a little bit better, but it was still
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: a really bad.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, man, it's so... So, Drake May throws three interceptions
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: to start the game. Just... Mm-hmm. Two of them are horrible.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Two of them are like, what are you doing, brother?
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: I get that, like.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I get that, like, you don't have a wide receiver, right? But, like,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: in reality, you didn't have a wide.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Receiver last year. I mean, you had Diggs.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: But you didn't really have a wide receiver last year.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: And you don't have one this year either.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: But, man, they need.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: To make a move before the trade deadline to get
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: another receiver.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Because, like, when's A.J. Brown supposed to come back? I
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: don't know what's up.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Who knows?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Dude, I haven't seen anything. I haven't seen anything
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: about him. But even whatever he was playing.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Dude, I've seen something that was like if you took
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: JSN and divided him by 10. This was last week.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: This was before he had the game that he just had.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: If you divided JSN by 10, he still scored more
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: fantasy points than A.J.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Brown through eight weeks of And it's like, holy shit, dude.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Because he's at like 196 points on the year as
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: of last week.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Now he gets what? He had what, like 10 points?
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: And A.J.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Brown had like 19.1 on the season. Dude, like what
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: is going on there? But in reality, Drake may kind
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: of turn it around. After those three interceptions, he proceeded
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: to throw for 300 yards and three touchdowns. And so
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: it's like he kind of turned it around and turned
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: it on a little bit. In my mind, the story
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: of this game is Gonzo.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Why are you being paid to be the best corner
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: in the NFL?
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, bad game, right? Maybe it was just a
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: bad game, bad day. Both of these receivers have been
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: going off on everybody all season. I wouldn't be surprised
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: if they're both, like, top five, top ten in receiving yards.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know they're third and fourth, right?
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Actually, in receiving yards? That's insane.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: It goes JSN, Seedy... Christian Watson, Matt Golden.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Damn, but then who's five?
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Olave?
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Ah, fuck. No, Olave fell off. Olave fell off. Because
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: of the bye week. Because of the bye week. Nothing else.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because of the bye week.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Because of the bye week. No, put it in reality.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Like I said earlier, Tucker Kraft didn't do much in
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: this game, obviously, because he didn't need to.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Matthew Golden was actually catching the ball.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Dude, that's the biggest potential, man, bro. If Matt Colton
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: catches the ball, bro.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Dude, he might steal. Oh, no, Justin Herbert.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: He's not going to steal Herbert, bro.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I'm getting flashbacks.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: No, but in reality, it's insane that this offense can
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: be so solely focused on just two guys. They're like, hey,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: we're not going to run the ball, and we're not
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: throwing to anybody else. We're just throwing it to these
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: two guys. And then they're just doing one or two things.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: It's just deep balls. Like, it's not like they're throwing, like,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: a five-yard slant or a drag route.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Or, like, a dig.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: No, these are, like, posts, corners, streaks. Like, these are
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: deep fucking routes that are, like, contested, too. And they're
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: catching them. They're coming down with these contested catches. And
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: it's like, holy shit. And it's just, I mean, they
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: just absolutely worked. I mean, they've been working everybody, right?
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: But they were just hauling in everything to our work yesterday.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: But they were just hauling in everything. It was absolutely insane.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Jordan Love, I mean, he played really good. In reality, like, yes,
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I know he had a perfect QBR and all that stuff.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: I feel like his receivers.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Helped him out a lot.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: He's throwing, like, jump balls where people are getting head-top
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: and they're coming down with it 40 yards down the field.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: And so that helps out a lot.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: And so, you know, you're able to throw for damn
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: near 400 yards and three touchdowns when only have six.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Incompletions on 30 pass attempts.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, dude. So it's like he's insane. He's balling out.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: And we know that Jordan Love's been good. He's been,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: you know, a top 10 guy. And just the fact
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: that these receivers are playing at the level that they're
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: playing at. Go get everybody else that has ever had
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: hamstring issues. Send them to wherever Christian Watson went. I
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: know that he went to some college for some studies, right?
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He went to like Stanford or some shit. Yeah.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Send everybody there. Because man.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Where Christian Watson went.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: He looks unworldly.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: And then last year, I was so high on Matthew Golden,
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: and he was getting such good separation rate.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, his separation rate was insane.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Dude, I was like, he just needs the opportunities, and
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: he's been getting them this year. He's been getting the opportunities,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: and look at him. Look at him, top five in
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: receiving yards. This team, this offense is.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's beautiful to watch.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Dude, it's... Insane the level that, I mean, Jordan Love,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think nobody can argue this. He's one of
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the most talented quarterbacks in the league by far as
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: far as like any arm angle, mobile enough to actually
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: be a threat, actually have the ability to throw the
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: ball 50 yards down the field like on a rope.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: But it's just a matter of he could do this
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: any single game, but can he put this together on
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: a consistent basis? And I was trying to find exactly
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: when it started, but against the Bears, that's when it
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: really started. Whenever he started, it seems like everything just
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: clicked for him. And I know the old philosophy as
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: far as saying you need to run the ball to
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: get the pass game open. Matt LaFleur said, I have
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Matthew Golden and Christian Watson who, in quarters, the Patriots,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think people realize how crazy this is. The
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Patriots are running quarters. That means there is four people back,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: two corners and two safeties. Jordan Love has the audacity.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Christian Love or Christian Watson is beating them down the field.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: So it's insane. It's insane what they're doing so it
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: inherently gets the run game going with Caleb Johnson. And
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I'll say this. Jonathan Taylor to the Packers?
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: They don't need him.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs just got hurt. I mean, Micah Parsons coming
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: back and the Packers, I feel like an underrated story
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: right here is the Packers have had a top three
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: defense since week two.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Without Micah. Without Micah. Micah's coming back. So that's one
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: thing where it's like Packers, maybe they're going underneath the
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: radar too. So Packers, if Jordan Love plays at this level,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: it gets really spicy in the NFC. I'm not going
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: to lie. It gets really, really spicy because you have
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: the Bears, you have the Niners, you have, I mean,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: you still have to throw the Vikings in there up
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: to this point right now. Who knows what happens with
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: the Rams? Cowboys, of course.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Almost forgot.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Almost forgot. Yeah. Seattle. So like the Packers, I feel
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: like it's just a big old tier of like the
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: NFC right now. I don't know which way to sway
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: with how I think this is easily the Packers have
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: been the best collective team offensively and defensively over the
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: past three weeks against like any stretch of teams. Like
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I'll say that by far like this month of October.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: So that's one thing. Packers are looking really, really good
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: right now. It's scary. It's like Super Bowl level scary.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Their division is still so rough. I think the Bears are...
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Them getting Jeffrey Simmons I think helps them out so much, man.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: It makes their team so good. I know I wasn't
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: on last.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Week to talk about it, but man, it makes that
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: defense so much scarier. It makes me It makes me
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: excited for the Bears, which is crazy to say.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: But, like, also at the same time, like, I know
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: they acquired him last year, but, like, you could say
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Micah Parsons is, like, a Jeffrey Simmons-level move coming back, too.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: No, I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: I think, like, there for a minute, they were, like,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: undefeated with Micah. Yeah.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: So that's why it's, like, he might not be great
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: the first, like, month back, but, like, just the presence
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: of Micah.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Just like the presence of Micah is like a whole
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: different thing.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: And I know a lot of Cowboys fans are like
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: hating on Micah and they're like, oh, look, like we
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: got the good end of the deal. dude it's like
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: dude but like he's he's still he's still micah like
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: like yeah watch when he comes back on the field
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: and like see see how much like presence he's because
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: like with with uh with uh dude i'm blanking the
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: raiders what kenny clark no the raiders max crosby yeah
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: max Like, yes, he gets sacks and he puts up
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: double-digit sacks and he gets in the teens. But, like,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: he's not, like, leading the NFL in sacks. But, like,
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: the amount of attention he demands is absolutely insane. And
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: so I think, like, the same thing can happen with
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Micah whenever he comes back. It's like, yeah, maybe he'll
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: end the year with, like, six to, like, ten sacks, which, like,
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: isn't really great. But, like, in reality, like, he's going
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: to demand so much attention that it's going to free
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: it up for everybody else to eat.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and even with the Cowboys, I feel like Micah
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: wasn't a guy where you judge him as far as
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: a sacks basis. I feel like pressures is more important
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: than the actual sacks numbers and double team rate. Micah
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: was getting doubled like 20% to 25%. So you have
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: these one-on-one guys eating, which if they're already eating right now,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: imagine whenever Micah gets back. But as far as this
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Patriots side right here, Drake, man. Drake, me. I feel
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: like he's in a literal position of what Jordan Love
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: was like a year or two ago where like maybe
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: like on a different trajectory made the Super Bowl, of course, younger.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: But like where it's like there's months where he could
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: look amazing. He looks like, holy crap, this dude is amazing.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: And then he turns around and have like a two
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: week stretch against Miami last week. And this week where
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: he just looks awful. I know the skill position guys
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: aren't there. Like, for sure, not having Travion Henderson and
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: not having these other guys around you. But, like, some
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: of these, it's like, it's not even like you're throwing
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: to the receiver. They're just, like, they're just bad plays.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Straight to the linebacker's chest and you're like, oof.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Like, I guess Drake May and Caleb Williams, they just
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: decided to have the same game.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: I literally seen a sketch like earlier today of them
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: like working at Subway and competing to who's the best
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Subway worker.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: And they're like throwing subs. All right.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: It's officially time. We didn't get to have this segment
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: last week, mostly because there was a bye week. And
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: then Brecken, of course, wasn't on the pod. So it's
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: time for personally my favorite segment in this entire show.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: It's time for the BS, Breckin's Saints, in which the Saints,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: they win 23-22 in overtime. Saints are first in the
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: division right now. Breckin, the floor is yours.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what can I say, Mr. Shadur Sanders?
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Bust out my AP, bitch is signing. Tyler Shuck went
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: out there and balled out, baby. Tyler Shuck's absolutely the
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: best quarterback in this division. Potentially best quarterback in this conference.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Just absolutely balling out. And he played a really good game.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: I get that, like, yes, his QBR wasn't great. He
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: didn't throw an interception. He got sacked a lot. In reality,
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: this whole game was sloppy. But Tyler Shuck, week in,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: week out, I've said that he's been playing good. He's
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: been playing good. He's been playing good. And he balled
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: out again today for us. And he made, in my opinion,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: the best throw of the week to Chris Olave to
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: end up taking us into overtime. there with like a
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: minute 20 left in the game. He made an absolute
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: dot of a throw, trusting his arm talent. I wish he,
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: I could tell, like now that our team's starting to
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: get healthier, Jordan Tyson played his first game. I can
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: tell that Tyler Shuck still has room to grow in
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: the mental aspect of being able to move off of
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: his reads a little bit quicker and get to that
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: second and third guy. And I'm seeing it a little
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: bit more, but he is so talented and gifted that
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. On that throw to Chris Olave, that
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: corner route, he stared down that route and he threw
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: it anyways on double coverage. And it didn't matter because
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: the ball placement was so good. But in reality, he
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: had other people wide open. But, I mean, we're not
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: going to dwell on it. Tyler Shuck also ran for
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: 52 yards. Absolute dog on the ground. I mean, he
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: did it when he had to. And that's what I
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: love to see. I feel like he hasn't used his
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: legs enough. And everyone says that he's.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Like, got shades of Josh Allen, yada, yada, yada. That's
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: what everyone looks for.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: But, like, you've actually seen it in this game where,
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: you know, Schlesinger was, I mean, playing his heart out. Like,
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: I'll probably talk about him here in a little bit. But, like,
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: this defense for the Browns were playing extremely good. And
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: Tyler Shuck was having to create on his own. And
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: he was taking what the defense was giving him. It
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: was third down and four, and he'd run it for
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: eight yards. Like, yes, maybe there's a check down he
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: can hit, but there's some potential for the drop. Why
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: not use your legs and go ahead and get that
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: first down? Don't risk it. We see Josh Allen do
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: that every other week. We see Lamar Jackson do it
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: whenever he's healthy. That's what these elusive athletic quarterbacks do
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: is whenever they need to pick it up on the ground, hey,
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: why risk it? I'm just going to run for it.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: I know I'm more athletic, right? And that's what Tyler
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Shuck did. Audrick Estime, thank you, daddy. Let me tell you,
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: I'm so happy. I'm so happy. I don't know why
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: last year to end the season, you were on our team,
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: and you had a couple of good games where you
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: were like, oh, yeah, you look really explosive. I don't
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: know if you remember him on the Broncos where he
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: would have like a game where he would like, he'd
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: catch a screen pass, take it for like 35, 40 yards,
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: look super explosive. And he just can't stick on an
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: NFL team. He was on the Browns practice squad, and
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: we did a little bit of finagling Cut Kendrick Miller.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Waste of a third-round pick. Sorry.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: You're gonzo, brother. You can't learn to read a hole
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: to save your life. I know I was praising for
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: you to get more touches, but, man, were we desperate
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: at running back. Now we have Audrick Estime off of
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: the Browns practice squad.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Comes in for us.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Rustles for 71 yards and a touchdown at a 4.8
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: yards per click. I mean, it really just opened up
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: the run game for us in general. Just being able to, like,
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: actually get some push. Kelvin Banks, it was his first
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: game back. Our offensive line is finally healthy, and it's.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Just like, oh, it feels so good. Jordan Tyson, I
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: understand that you fumbled on your very first catch, but man,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: were you routing some people up.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: You are good at running routes. He's got some good hands.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: We've seen Vele definitely take a step back. And in
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: my mind, it looked like he was out of rhythm
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: because he had a drop that should have been a
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: pick six. It went right through his hands. And I
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: was like, that's a pick six. That's a pick six.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: And then the DB just didn't catch it. So thank God.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: But Vele, he had two catches in this game. He
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: had a drop that should have been a pick six,
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: but it wasn't. And, you know, I get it. It's
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: because our first round pick, our top ten pick, is
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: out there running routes and stealing your targets.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: But, Bailey, I need you to be clutch, man.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: You're kind of our red zone guy. In my mind,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: he's our jump ball, throw it up, he's going to
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: go get it kind of guy. Kind of like Jawan
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Johnson is for us as well. He's just able to
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: line up out wide and go up and get it. Because,
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's 6'5.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: He's a freak athlete. He can go up and get it.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Jordan Tyson, amazing, amazing routes. Um, he looks a lot smaller.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: It's gotta be the uniform. He does. He does.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Cause he's like six two. Yeah. I was going to
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: bring that up. He does look a lot smaller. Yeah.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: He looks smaller on the field and I don't know.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know why. I don't know if it's the number.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what it is. Because
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Olave obviously looks small.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: But then, like, you look it up, and it's like, oh, yeah,
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Chris Olave's, like, 6'1. Like, he's not that small. And
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: so I think it's just got to be the jerseys. Because, like,
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: Vele's 6'5, and he looks tall. But he doesn't look like,
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: you know, Calvin Johnson. He doesn't look like 6'5.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: He's taller than Calvin, too.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: But he looks small. Yeah, it's got to be the
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: jerseys for sure, bro. I didn't even think about that.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: But Jordan Tyson played really good. Olave, I mean, he
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: had 100 yards. He's just doing what he's been doing
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: week in, week out. I love the fact Tyler Shuck
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: was taking the risks when he needed to. And I
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: loved it because it would be like second down because
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: we're able to run the ball in this game a
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: little bit. So it would be first down, we run
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: the ball, get six yards, second and four. We throw
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: a 37-yard pass to Olave. Like we have him. We
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: have that X factor. And we can take that risk now.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Instead of doing it on first down, and then now
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: it's second and 10, and then you try and run
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: the ball, and you get two yards, and now it's
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: third and eight, and we're fucked, right? Because we picked
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: up so much yards on first down that it's second
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: and four, you know, we can throw the ball 35-plus
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: yards downfield.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: And it ended up working out.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Chris Olave had two catches of over 30 yards, and
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: it was just, I mean, he had 12 targets on
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: the game. Like, he had plenty of targets, and I
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: was kind of worried about, like, where's the work? Where
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: are these passes going to go? with Jordan Tyson coming back.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: And I understand that he was on a snap count,
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: but Tyler Shook only had 35 attempts and 12 of
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: them went Olave's way.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: So I still feel really good about it.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: Even if Olave is going down to like nine, 10
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: targets a game, like I think that this offense is
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: getting healthy and getting more open. I think next week,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: we're probably going to get Etienne back. He practiced this week.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: He ended up sitting out for this game, but I
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: think he might end up playing next week. And hopefully
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: that's going to bring out some more, but if not,
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: don't worry.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: We have Audra Kestame. Hey, Etienne.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: Hey, Etienne, relax. We have Audra Kestame.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: For Tyler or for Shador Sanders, I know....
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: I know I really wanted him over Shuck, all right?
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: I am one of those Saints fans that was like,
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: why the fuck did we draft Shuck over Shador? After today,
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: I'm happy about it. I'm pretty happy about it.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Because, yes, I think Shador had moments.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: He was making some throws, yeah.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: But he was making the deep throws, right? And I've
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: always said deep accuracy is more of a receiver stat
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: than a quarterback stat.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: In my personal opinion.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: Because if you watch this game, Denzel Boston and Casey
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: Concepcion are head-topping and fucking burning Kool-Aid McKenzie.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Making great plays, yeah.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Dude, they were making.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: Kool-Aid look like he was signed off the streets and
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: not a second-round pick.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: Like... Yeah.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: They were embarrassing the fuck. And I've said that these
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: are some of my favorite wide receivers in the NFL.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: And they have some of the highest separation rate.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: In the NFL. And, like, you've seen why. Like, they
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: would catch a pass.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: Like, almost all of Shador's passing yards were, like, on
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: his insanely long plays.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know what. So, okay.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Harold Fannin had a 39-yard catch. I'm going to say
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Harold Fannin.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: Casey Concepcion, yeah, Harold Fannin just fucking bullied people. Casey Concepcion,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: 64-yard catch. Denzel Boston, 60-yard catch. And so that's, what, 120,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: 160 yards of his passing was, like, created by the
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: receiver more than the quarterback, right? And, ah, dude, I
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: don't know, because he didn't turn the ball over.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: And he did throw for 300 yards. Now, it was
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: against the Saints, and it was against Kool-Aid McKenzie. Man,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: he might end up getting benched. I don't know what
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: is going on with him. But in reality, where I
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: think that we won the game was with the Saks.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: We have Carl Granderson and Chase Young.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this. They're both top
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: five in Saks. That's crazy.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: I know Chase Young's been good. Yeah, and Carl Granderson
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: missed the first three weeks. I think he missed the
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: first two or three weeks.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: That's insane. Yeah, I think he's fourth in sacks. And
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: then Chase Young's, like, second in sacks on the year.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Holy crap.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: We're getting a lot of sacks. We're getting good pressure.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: And I think what separated us this game is we
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: were able to stop the run. We haven't been able
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: to stop the run. Our linebackers are back and healthy.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: We were able to stop the run. Like, I know
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: that Judkins hasn't been great in general. Like, he's still
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: a talented running back, but the O-line hasn't been great
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: in general. But we just completely shut down the run,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: and we were able to run the ball. And, I mean,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: that's what won us the game. This game shouldn't have
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: been as close as it was because of how many
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: explosive plays that the Browns had. But we ended up
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: coming up with a win. We lost week one for
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: doing the same thing, going for two in overtime. And
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: I don't mind it. I think it's a ballsy play,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: but I don't mind it, right? I still– going back
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: to week one against Detroit, I would have done the
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: same thing. I would have gone for two every single time.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: So I don't blame the Browns for being like, hey,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: let's just go to win the game because there's only–
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: I think there was only.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Like 50 seconds left on the clock. Yeah.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: In reality, they weren't going to get the ball back,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: and it would give us a chance to win. But, yeah,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm happy Saints won. We're in first place,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: and it's so insane.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Our schedule is like not crazy from here on out. Mm-hmm.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: Like in reality, it's, I think that we can win.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: I think we can end up like winning the division.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Um, but I don't know how to feel.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get too high because this is
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: what happened after like, you already know.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: After like week two or three, I was like super high.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: We had just beat the Ravens. And I was like, yeah,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: that's what I'm talking about. And then the Falcons game happened.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: And it's like, I like, I don't, I don't want
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: to get too high, but, It is nice winning once
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: in a while, and I really do think that we
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: could still somehow make the playoffs.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: That's all I care about.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's really viable. I just think
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: the three games, I don't know when the Chicago-Bengal-Packers stretch
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: comes up.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: It's literally, so we go Panthers next week, and then
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: it goes Bears-Bengals-Packers.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: I think if we can win one of those, right?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Like we stole one from the Ravens early in the season.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: Whenever the Ravens were fully healthy, like they had everybody.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: And we beat the Ravens. So it's like we're able
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: to punch above our weight class. Detroit Lions, we took
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: down to the very last play in overtime, right? So
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: we've shown that we've been a good team. So I
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: think that if we can upset one of those next three,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: like in reality, I think we can win against the
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: Panthers and then lose to the Bears, beat the Bengals,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: lose to the Packers, and then we'll be what? Because
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: we're three, we'll be five and seven.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, five and seven. And that's still viable for the division, yeah.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Five and seven, and I'll be like, yeah, we still
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: make playoffs.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: That's so crazy. But the Cowboys are going to be
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: in the exact same spot, bro. The exact same spot.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know, dude. The Giants are kind of running
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: away with it right now. They're like third in the NFC.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: But, like, after the Giants, they face the Commanders next week.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: It becomes brutal.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Like, it becomes brutal.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: A gauntlet.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Because one of my dad's.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: Fans is a Giants.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, I think the Giants are going to, like,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: they might win the division. Just because, like, they already
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: have such a lead.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I could buy that. Like, the Cowboys would
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: still have to make up ground. But, like, they still
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: have a tough stretch. But I, honestly, I'd rather the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Giants win the division. I'm not going to lie to you.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: I'd rather them win. I'm going to go ahead and
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: say this right now because I think it's so dumb
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: and it's Cowboys fashion. I think we're going to beat
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: the Niners. With no context, no nothing, knowing the Cowboys,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: knowing how they know how to pull you in just
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: enough back. Like you're saying, I'm never worried about the
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Cowboys when they play the upper echelon teams because they
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: always show up to play. I'm always worried when they
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: play the Colts, when they play the Cardinals. That's when
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: I'm worried as a Cowboys fan. Like, that's where it
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: gets spooky. But, like, okay, I know this is very
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: quickly before we get into the Cowboys, but I just
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: want to talk about, like, it's very random, like, in
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: a nasty game. The Lions and Dolphins, like, not much
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: about the game, but I just want to bring up
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins as far as for, They have one of
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: the highest salary cap rates as far as salary cap
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: not being used on.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: The team and being one of the worst dead cap.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And they're actually competitive in a lot of games.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: I think in the future, they have one of the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: brightest futures as far as three, four years down the
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: road with Jeff Hadley actually building. It's actually pretty impressive
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: with the Dolphins. I know... I know that's the most
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: random thing I could have broadened up, but, like, I
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: just want to say with the Dolphins, like, I think
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: that's something that's, like, kind of going under the radar.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: They have a good foundation, and then I like the
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: guys that they, like, drafted. Like, getting Caleb Douglas and
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: Chris Bell, who I know Chris Bell's played one game.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and J-Rod.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: And it's like their defense has been playing, like, pretty decent.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: Not great, but not bad.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: And then you're going to get A-chain back. And then, like,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Ollie Gordon.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: Like, we knew what he was. Like, yeah, we knew
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: what he was at OSU. And it was, like, what
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: happened his senior year. But, like, he's kind of.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Like, looked pretty solid behind, like, a not great O-line.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: And I was literally just, like, thinking about it, like,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: today or yesterday that I was, like, dude, give them, like,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: two years. Like, I think next year they'll be, like, competitive. Like,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: they'll be– Like, oh, shit, like, they might end up
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: making the playoffs. And then the year after that, they'll be, like,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: a playoff team. Like, pretty solid.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Which is insane to say.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like, it's like... Like, I was
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: watching the Dolphins against the Lions when they're on red zone.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, they played the Chiefs well. Oh, they
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: played this team well. They played this team well. It's like, oh, damn.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: They actually got, like, for them playing with a bunch of, like,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: guys on, like, minimum contracts, they're actually playing... Pretty well,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: but okay. Well, we'll go ahead and get into the
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: Cowboys and Colts in another game where I proceed to
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: sweat like crazy. Or I guess just CeeDee Lamb owns
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: the AFC South. Against the AFC South, you know what
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: he averages? 16 catches a game and 185 yards and
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: a touchdown.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: Who is this?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: CeeDee Lamb.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: As the Cowboys, they win 27-23 and go to 4-5, where, okay,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: this sounds so crazy to say, but I was more
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: impressed with the defense. than I was with the offense. Like, okay,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: it looks cool. Oh, we scored 27 points. But against
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals and the Colts, we've struggled, and these are
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: bottom defenses, which is scary. And the reason why, okay.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: I'll say this. You have to judge based on the
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: expectations of the unit. The unit where it's gaudy, like
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Dak Prescott proclaimed before the season, is struggling. Run game,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: it looked good, but also it didn't look good at
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: the same time. CeeDee Lamb-Dak combination, that was the only
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: thing that looked good, where CeeDee Lamb, even though he
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: had 10 for a buck 95, it was like one
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: of those weird games where it's like, CeeDee Lamb's playing bad.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: Holy crap, he had 200 yards. It was one of
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: those games right there. But for the Cowboys' defense, Quentin
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Williams and Caleb Downs were the only two defenders on
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: this defense who were like, it's like, that's an all-pro.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: That's an all-pro. The rest of the defense, because Damar
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: and Overshawn didn't play and JPJ didn't play. So we'll
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: have four potential... Pro Bowl-level guys going up against San
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Francisco next week. But they played pretty good. And I'll
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: say this. Out of the eight quarters we've seen from
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals and Colts game, I know it's bad offenses.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: But six out of those eight quarters, they haven't looked
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: too bad. Like, they haven't looked too bad. The six
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: out of the eight. Six out of the eight quarters.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: And then Gardner Minshew showed up.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Gardner Minshew showed up. And then we
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: got Molly. Then we got Molly walked. But I'm just
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: saying there actually is subtle improvements as far as with
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys' defense. And I'll say this. Christian Parker, obviously, like,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: the scheme has been bad. But one thing that he's
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: actually doing is putting his great players in actual great
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: positions where they could wreck a game. And he's been
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: doing that with Quinton Williams and Caleb Downs the last
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: two games. Obviously, Caleb Downs... got hurt in the third quarter.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: But in those spots, they've been dominant in their position.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: I think he had the highest PFF grade Caleb Downs
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: of like any defensive player. And Quinton Williams, he's had
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: six sacks over the past four games. So he's on
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: an absolute tear right now. So I don't know what
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: to think because now that the defense is playing better
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: than they were, now the offense, we did run the ball,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: but it's against a Colts defense that's Very banged up.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Just lost to Forrest Buckner.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: And, like, teams just deflated.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: So, like, if it wasn't for Dak Prescott. So, like,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: those with Shoddy. So, I don't know if you're watching
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: the game where he threw that deep ball to Ryan Flournoy.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: They were asking, they're like, so, did you call the player?
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: Did Dak, like, basically, like, say, like, throw caution to
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: the wind? And he was like, well, you know, I
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: trust Dak Prescott to do some things. He's like, okay, well,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: so Dak Prescott just basically said, all right, shotty, just
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: get the hell out the way.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me just win this game.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And, like, if it wasn't for Dak Prescott doing that, again, okay,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, I don't know what it is. Ever since
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay game, in first halves of games, The
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: stats look amazing. The stats look amazing. But in the
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: first half of those games, he doesn't look like the
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: same quarterback. Like, he doesn't. Like, I love Dak Prescott, but, like,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: I have to be honest about it. Like, and if
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: you want to compete against this gauntlet that's coming up,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: you have the Niners, and then you get a break
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: kind of with the Titans and Eagles. But then you
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: have the Seahawks and then the Rams, which I just saw. Puka,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: he could return back against the Cowboys.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Of course he would. Then you have the Jaguars, and
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: you have the Giants, and then a commander's team who
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: could play spoil at the end.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: That's not easy.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: Like, that's not an easy schedule at all. So it's
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: like Dak Prescott, these last stretch of games. What are this,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: week nine? So we're in week 10. We can go
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: into week 10. These last seven stretch of games. You
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: need to play like a top five quarterback like you're
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: capable of if you really want to make the playoffs.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not even saying, hey, go win a Super Bowl. Hey,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: go win a playoff game just to make the playoffs.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: Because like you said, you have to fetch the Giants.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: They have to lose at least one. I say two
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: more games. I know we play the Giants. But I
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: don't think we're going to clean sweep Jaguars, Niners, Rams, Seahawks.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: I could see us going two and two. So that's
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: why I'm saying Giants lose two. Maybe we beat the Giants,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: get the division. But yeah, Dak Prescott needs to start
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: playing at a level that he's capable of. So I
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: don't know what you think about that. Obviously, George Pickens
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: was hurt in this game. So I don't know what
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: you think.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I got two things to say.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: First, what's going to happen is somehow the Cowboys and
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: Saints will both be third and fourth. win their division,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: make the playoffs, win the first round, go against each other,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: and then tie.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: We're going to find a way to both lose a
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: playoff game, right? Against each other, yeah.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: First team ever.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: They're going to be like, hey, one of those teams
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: that lost last week, that was really good, let's move
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: them up instead.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Let them win, yeah. The team that lost in the
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: other division around, let them win. Let them win.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: No, but, man, I think, After this game, it was like, damn,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: they really don't need George Pickens.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Flo's been playing really good, and he looked good this game.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: But like you did say, it's the Colts, so it's
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: like this whole game you have to take with a
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: grain of salt because they're so fucking bad, dude. The
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: Colts are so bad. And, and of course I trade
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: for Jonathan Taylor and he loses a shoe. And then
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: the very next place backup.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: Scores, a touchdown. I was like, are you fucking kidding me, bro?
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: And then when they're in the red zone, Quinn Williams
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: just makes a massive play and make some fun. Oh yeah.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: Make some fumble. Yeah.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: And, um, I mean, yeah, that's, that's how they ended
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: up winning the game. Um, but I don't know how
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: Daniel Jones is still playing in the NFL. Like, You
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: want to talk about finessing? Everyone's like, oh, Kirk Cousins
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: has made so much money. Daniel Jones, man.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: How?
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: He's had one and a half good seasons. In reality,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: that good season on the Giants was really only half
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: a season. So he's had one full good season in.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: His, what, seven, eight-year career now?
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that, yeah.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: And he's on contract with the Colts.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: For, what, three more years?
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they have a void year or whatever, but, man,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. It's like Josh Downs
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: demanding a trade, and he needs to go. I don't know,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: but the Colts are so bad.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: The fact that this game was as close as it
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: was should be a shock to you. I thought the
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: Cowboys ran the ball pretty decent, but, like I said,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: it's the Colts. Like, this whole game feels weird because,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: like you were saying, where it's like CeeDee Lamb's having
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: a bad game, but he has 200 yards.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: And it's, like, it's because it's the Colts.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: It's, like, oh, shit, like, CeeDee Lamb, like, dropped a
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: pass or, like, Dak, like, overthrew somebody here or, like,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: missed somebody here or, like, you know, Javonta Williams, like,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: didn't bounce it out wide. And it didn't do all that. But, like,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: if this was against, like, a decent team, it's probably, like,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: an embarrassing loss. But against the Colts, like, I mean,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: you snuck one out.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Like, the defense was the best unit on, like, the
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Cowboys defense played the best out of, like, all three phases.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and then I was going to say, like,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: Brandon Aubrey, did he miss two field goals?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Like, he's just been playing bad. He missed one field goal, but.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: Brandon Aubrey, the last eight games, has not been the same.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: He's been missing a lot of field goals. Okay, let
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: me tell you this. Since last year to start the
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: season in 2025, you know who's tied for the most
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: missed field goals? Harrison Butker. Understand. Second, Brandon Aubrey.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: That's crazy that they're both. Is Butker still on the Chiefs?
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, but like, Butker, you understand, he's older, injuries. Brandon Aubrey,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: you just got signed to a $ 10 million.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say, he just got paid.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he just got paid. What was it, $ 3 for
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: $ 30 million, something along those lines?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: Highest paid kicker in NFL history.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Just for him to be turning into Harrison Butker? Like,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: now I don't even trust him like 55 yards out. Like,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: I really don't. Like, it's... It's getting to that point
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: where it's like, man, it's like.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sucks, huh? It sucks.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: Ever since we got rid of Big Nut Lutz, man,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: we haven't been the same.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: No, but what's crazy about all the Cowboys kickers is
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: it always for like a two, three-year run, they're so
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: money and so great, then it turns into trash. And
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: I go back to Dan Bailey. Dan Bailey.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: That's exactly who I thought of.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: Dan, the man, Bailey. Like, I remember everybody was calling
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: him Clutch. He had like a three-year run where he
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: was insane and started missing kicks. Oh, he got old.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Brett Maher, who set the record. at one point for
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: a 65-yard kick, I think it was against the Vikings
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: Sunday night football, for a two-year stretch was great, then
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: couldn't hit an extra point. And then Brandon Aubrey, three,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: four years has been money. I hope, I really hope
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: it's not.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: It's just the gifts, man. He's got to get. you
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: just got to get over it. Dude.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: I know, bro. I hope so. But like, let's, let's
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: move on to a team. That's that was really active
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: today in the trade deadline. We'll get to Bengals Falcons
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: in a little bit, but like the Jaguars, like, I
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: guess we would kind of talk about the game. Not
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: really much to talk about, but like the Jaguars, they're
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: now six and two. And they just traded for Jordan Davis,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: Jesse Bates. And then, um, I can't think of the
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Saints defensive tackle that they traded for.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: Godshaw.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Godshaw.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: Devon, Devon, Godshaw.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: So, after them making moves, I didn't think I'd be
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: saying this. Are the Jaguars a favorite to get out
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: of the AFC now?
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: They'll have the Bills and the Chiefs.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: But, like, already the best defense in the league, and
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: then they add in three... startable guys okay i will
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: say this they did overpay for jordan davis i'm not
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: gonna act like this is like a crazy like oh
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: no first and a second and a second but it's
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: how we like yeah yeah that is.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: True but but it is jordan like jordan davis is
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: it's a little bit of a overpay especially because he
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: hasn't been playing like as great as lately but he
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: is like he is still.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: So Dude, that's insane. Trayvon Walker, Jordan Davis, Eric Armstead.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: What about Josh Allen?
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, and then I forgot about Josh Hines Allen,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: their best defensive end. Yeah, I forgot about him.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: Dude, that defensive line is going to be disgusting, bro. Godshaw,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: Jordan Davis, Allen.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: And then they added in one of the best safeties
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: in Jesse Bates.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: Who's their other safety? Because I know they traded away Norman.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: I can't think of their.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: They don't have Cisco anymore.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: Dang, shout out Andre Cisco.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: Shout out... Yeah, I can't think of who their other
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: safety is.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: Because their corners are pretty locked down.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: Like, I think... I genuinely think that.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: It's Antonio Johnson. But, like, I mean, even their corners, too.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: You now have Travis Hunter and you have Jordan Lewis.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know they have Jerrion Jones and I
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: forgot something Brown, something Brown. Their corners are pretty solid.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: Like they have no weaknesses on their defense now.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: Sure. No, I really like them. I, I, you know,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: I do really like, oh dude, I'm getting tired. What's
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: the receiver? Parker Washington.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: I do really like Parker Washington, but like, I feel
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: like they still– maybe they.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: Just need BTJ to play better.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: But I feel like that's what they're missing still is, like,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: the receiver. But, like, they don't– like, it hasn't affected
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: them because of how.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: Good Dutton's been recently. Yeah. Like, the run game's been
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: so good recently that it doesn't matter. And, like, the Jags,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'd put them in the favorites.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: Like, T-Law's been playing– T-Law's the guy that, like, when
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: he plays good, he plays– like, when the team's doing
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: good– He plays fucking amazing. But when they play bad,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: he plays like shit. That's been my one flaw with T-Law.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: He's not going to go on the sideline and cuss
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: out a player or be like, hey, get your head up.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: He's going to be in his own just kind of, hey,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do my own thing. I'm going to
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: chill over here. And he's always been, and that's nice
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: because it's like, hey, he's super level-headed. But then it's
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: also bad because it's like whenever something goes bad and
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: it gets to his head, It's like it sticks.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: So as long as they can avoid that, man, I
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: think– and we've seen that last year where it's like
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: they did.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: They avoided it. And the sky– like the ceiling was
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: limitless with T. Long. And he was my MVP vote
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: in preseason. And I mean he's looking like– He was.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's looking like he might just end up doing it, man.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: I mean– He's up there with the MVP vote, but
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: also this other guy too, Joe Burrow and the Bengals.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Burrow is... Let me find the stat
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: that I sent you guys. Well, something insane about Joe Burrow.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: Where's it at? Joe Burrow had his fourth straight game
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: of at least four passing and rushing touchdowns, tied for
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: the second longest streak since 1970, behind only Peyton Manning's
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: five-game streak in his 2004 MVP season, which is one
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: of the greatest MVP seasons in the last 25, 25,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: 30 years. So, as of right now, I mean, there's
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: not really much to talk about like Bengals, Falcons. MVP,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: one through five, because it's a five-person ballot. Who would
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: it be? Because I'll tell you, I can tell you mine.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: I say Joe Burrow, okay? Brock Purdy, Josh Allen. I'll
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: have to say Jordan Love. Jordan Love four. Then I'd
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: have to, I'd throw in K-9. Yeah, I would say
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: K-9 five. That's who I would say as of right now.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: I have to put, I have to put JSN in
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: there for me. Mine would be one.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: I feel like it still has to be Purdy. Because
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: he's been playing so good. He just had a bye week. Like,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: that's his only thing. And, like, he's been playing so.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: But Josh Allen has scored so many rushing touchdowns.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: He's already got, like, nine. He has. He has, like,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: nine on the year or some shit like that.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: He's the best running back in the league, bro.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: Dude. It's insane. He has so many. Like, it's because
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: that's what's going to affect, like, the MVP voting.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: And it's, like, I don't want to include those rushing
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: touchdowns in, like, in, like, my, like. Because in reality,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: in my mind, it's like, okay, you can include them,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: but they're one-yard tush-push touchdowns.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: Which in reality, if you had.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: A tight end that was bigger, or if you had
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: a running back to push it in, like a big
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: running back, then those would be their touchdowns.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? So I kind of don't
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: hold as much value to rushing touchdowns for quarterbacks. As
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: much as... Especially if it's, like, those one-yard touchdowns as
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: other people do. But anyways, I think one... Dude, it's
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: either going to be Purdy or T-Law.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: See, and I didn't even mention T-Law. That's how crazy this...
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: This is a balanced MVP race.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: I think I'm putting Purdy one just because, like, he
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: has no help.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: He literally has no help. Like, nobody's healthy around him.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: And he's been balling out still.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: And then two... is a guy that has had a
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: lot of help, but, like, it's got to be Joe Burrow.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: Like, he's just absolutely insane.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: He has 26 total touchdowns.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then right behind him is Jordan Love. I
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: think they're, like, they're almost putting up the same season,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: in my opinion, with.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: Like, both really good receivers and all that. It's just
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's slightly better, and his receivers are slightly better.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Not slightly. They're quite a bit better.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: Just slightly, yeah.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: So that'd be one, two, three. And then I'd put
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: T-Lot for, oh, dude, but then I have to pick between, like, JSN,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen, and K9.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like Josh Allen, the MVP thing, I don't, like,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: I don't buy it because, like, he also has, like,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: let me see.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: That's my thing is he's had really bad games.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Like, he's had 20, he has 20 total touchdowns, but, like.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: But he has nine rushing or some shit like that.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, 20 total. Like, 20 total.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Like, Jordan Love has a total of 22. Burrow has more.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: Dak has two less. I mean, even Stafford's up there.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins has 20 touchdowns.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: That's insane.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: Kirk's been balling out. Kirk's been balling out.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: T-Law, Purdy, yeah. I mean, they're all up there. But, like,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Like, Josh Allen, whenever he won MVP– Like,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: I got it.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: It made sense.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: Even though you could argue Lamar.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: I had Lamar. I had Lamar. It made no sense.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: But the year prior, I had Dak.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: Like, I think if it's going to be predicated on
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: stats because that's what it's been forever, right?
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: Then that's what it needs to be if that's what
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: the criteria is.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: It needs to be Burrow or Jordan Love.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then if you're going to be like... Yeah,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: but now.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: The arguments change where, like, for Josh Allen, it changed
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: being like, Oh, I know that he doesn't look anywhere
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: close for as good as Lamar, but hey, his wide
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: receiver one's Khalil Shakir. Meanwhile, he's got the best O-line
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: in the NFL and the best running back in the NFL. Like,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: that's not fucking helping him. Anyways, I think Lamar Jackson
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: should have won that MVP. So I'm not putting.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen in my top five, even though I know
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: that he'll end up being in the top three at
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: the end of the year.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: But I would rather have J.S. Head over. him. What
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: is his MVP odds right now? MVP odds, it's Joe
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: Burrow and Josh Allen tied.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: Brock Purdy.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: Brock Purdy's at plus 470. So Joe Burrow and Josh Allen,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: they're at plus 220. Trevor's at plus 700. Jordan Love's
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: at plus 750.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: See what I'm saying?
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't get it, but, like, also, like, it's
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: a perfect mix of he's not too far behind in stats,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: but he has a record to, like, bolster it up. And, like,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: prime time, Monday Night Football, beat the best defense.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: What bugs me is he'll have a game against, like,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: the Colts or some shit, right? And he'll throw for
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: 385 yards, rush for 97, and have seven touchdowns.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: And it's like, holy fuck, all of a sudden he's MVP.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: But then he'll turn around and have a game where
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: he has two touchdowns and like three interceptions and a fumble.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: And it's like, Oh, well, it's the Patriots defense. It's
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: like one of the best defenses in the... And it's like,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: are you fucking kidding me?
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, it's the AFC playoff. It's one of the
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: best defenses. Like, oh my God. Like, I'm sorry.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: Joe Burrow's not getting outplayed by Bo Nix in the playoffs.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: I'm just hating on Josh Allen.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know why.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: I like Josh Allen. I don't hate Josh Allen.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: It just turns to Josh Allen hate.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: I think it's just because of the fucking MVP.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: I think Lamar deserved that. But then I don't think
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: Lamar deserved the one prior. I think Dak should have
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: had that one prior.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: He should have. Dak should have had it. So let
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: me list you the Bills' schedule. So they have Jets, Dolphins.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: What's they should win? They should win.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: He's going to put up a fucking thousand yards and
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: nine touchdowns in those two games. And then he's going
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: to run away with the MVP. Then check it.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: But listen to these next five. Starts Thanksgiving. Chiefs versus Bills, Patriots, Packers, Bears, Broncos.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: And then, of course, he finishes off with the Dolphins
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: and Jets once again. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. See? See?
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: So it'll be what's going to happen is it's going
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: to be like, holy fuck, Brock Purdy, Jordan Love, you know,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. They're all playing out of their mind. T-Law,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: they're all playing out of their mind.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: And then they're, like, being consistent, 280 to 350 yards
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: a game, you know, three to one touchdown ratio. And
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: then you get down to the end, and it's like, oh, fuck,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: they're really close, they're really close. It's like a three-way
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: race between these three guys. And then Josh Allen in
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: fourth place all of a sudden, the last two weeks
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: of the fucking season, still needs to make the playoffs.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: DJ Moore's hurt. You know, James Cook's hurt. Who do
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: they play against? The fucking Jets and the Dolphins.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: He proceeds to go for 1,300 yards in two games
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: and fucking 12 touchdowns.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: Back to the MVP.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, he gets first place. That's what's
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: going to happen.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: But what's so crazy, they're going to win these next
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: two games for sure unless, like, disaster. So they'd be 9-1.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: They could finish 2-3 in this five-game stretch. And they
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: beat the Jets and Dolphins, and they're 13-4. If they
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: go 3-2, they're going to be 14-3. Yeah. We just
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: confirmed it. Josh Allen's going to be the MVP.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: There's no way to get around it.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: Looking at the schedule, Josh Allen's just going to be
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: the MVP.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: Unless T-Law. No, there's no way. Who do they have? Oh,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: the Jags play the Titans twice.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: But let me list you this for the Bengals. Let
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: me list you Joe Burrow. Steelers, Sunday night football, primetime
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: for the AFC North, first place. Commanders, Monday night football,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: another primetime game. Two subpar defenses, and you have the Saints.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: Hey, don't count us out. No, I'm kidding. Then you
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: have the Browns. Oh, my God. I'm not looking forward
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: to that game at all.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: Then you have the Browns. And then you have your
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: one tough game against the Chiefs, right? So, like, say
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: they lose those, but they should be 10-2 up to
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: this point. Say you lose to the Chiefs, you're 10-3, right?
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: But then you finish off with Panthers, Colts, Ravens, Browns,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: and you could be 14-3.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: Panthers, Colts, and then Ravens if Lamar doesn't end up
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: coming back?
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think he comes back since you got Jacoby.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: Honestly.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: That'd be nice, dude. Joe Burrows.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: Like I said, it's going to be a three-way race.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: It's going to be Allen, Joe Burrow, and somebody else. Hey,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: I know Josh isn't on the pod.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: I was really hoping he would make an appearance just
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: for this statistical fact. You know who leads the NFL
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: in lowest ADOT?
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: Dude.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. I was talking with this.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: It's not check down Charlie Bo Nix anymore. Bo Nix
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: passed Patrick Mahomes this week. Whenever I seen that, I
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: was like, no fucking way. And so I literally Googled it.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: And like, it's true. I was like, what the fuck?
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: He has like a 5.4 yard ADOT.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: You want me to list? I had these stats already too,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: just in case Josh came on. Patrick Mahomes air yards
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: last four games. 3.6, 4.7, 4.7, 3.6. He's the only
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: quarterback on record the last 20 years with under five
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: plus yard air yards in four straight games on 30
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: plus attempts. Nobody else has done that in three straight
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: within a single season. Oh, no, it gets better. Mahomes
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: has now 14 touchdown passes with a total of 29
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: air yards, meaning his touchdown passes travel an average of 2.1
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: yards in the air.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: That's insane. That's insane. Yeah.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: Dude, I'm so glad you brought that up because it
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: made me remember to look on Twitter. His air yards,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: air yards 2.1 per touchdown.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: That's really bad. But I don't think that's a Mahomes problem.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: I think that speaks more to the receivers, to be honest. Because, like,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: Rasheed Rice is back and playing better, but he's not...
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: he's not your separator down the field.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: He's a, he's a rack guy.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: And so, and like Kenneth Walker's a running back, like,
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: and he's scored a couple of receiving touchdowns on the year.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: And so it's like, you know, makes sense. And Xavier
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: worthy fucking can't get open. So you have to throw
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: it to him.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: And now he's hurt.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And then, uh, fucking Travis is 45 years
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: old in a wheelchair, you know?
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, like you can't rely on Travis, but like,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: and then their best receivers out for the season.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: Thornton.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, but okay. I think that's all the games
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: right here. And like we did before the pod, we'll
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: just play these games, this game very quickly now that
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: we know how to play it. So, okay. This right
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: here is it's called pick the spot. It gives like
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: a graphic where you have to kind of predict the,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: what the stats were last year. So this first team
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: right here, the Philly offense in 2025, going up is
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: 20-plus yard pass rate, and then left is drive turnover rate.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: So the left is the better you are. Up is
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: the better you are.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: So as far as 20-plus yard pass rate.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: They don't turn the ball over. And I don't think
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: they pass the ball that much down the field. Well,
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: they had A.J.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: Brown.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: They had A.J.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: Brown.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't turn the ball over often, but they're not, like, they're, like, between, they're, like,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: around the Steelers, right?
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: You think, like, right here?
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, more like that area. In 20-plus air yards, I'd
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: have them a little bit higher just because of.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: Smitty and A.J. Brown being there.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: Because they've got to be better than the Chiefs, the Broncos,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: the Steelers. The Falcons is kind of where you start
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: to get, like, eh. You know, like, I feel like
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: right around that area is kind of where you start
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: to get, like, I don't know.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, I know.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: You also have the Cowboys and Niners over there, too, though.
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  Speaker 2: And they were pretty decent last year. I know.
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  Speaker 1: But, like, I know for sure they didn't turn over
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  Speaker 1: the ball. Because I don't think Hurts had that bad
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  Speaker 1: of a turnover year.
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  Speaker 2: No, they're... He's an accountant, bro. He doesn't take risks.
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  Speaker 1: So you're fine with this one right here?
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  Speaker 3: Unless it's flights over an ocean for no fucking reason.
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  Speaker 3: But that's the only risk that he'll take, his own life.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, see, they were right there right next to the Texans.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, shit. They were top three in turnover rate.
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  Speaker 1: They were top three in turnover rate.
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  Speaker 2: Holy crap.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, third in turnover rate, 20. Okay, we kind of
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  Speaker 1: expected that.
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  Speaker 2: Man, okay.
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  Speaker 1: What's this one? Place the Indy defense on the 2025 chart.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: Red zone, touchdown rate allowed. Going down is better. Third
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  Speaker 1: down rate allowed. Going left is better. See, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how to gauge this because first eight weeks.
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  Speaker 2: They started off so good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were one of the best defenses in the league.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like they just got to be a middle-of-the-pack
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  Speaker 2: kind of team then.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like.
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  Speaker 2: Because they were so good at the start, and then
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  Speaker 2: it fell off so bad.
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  Speaker 1: Right here I don't know I.
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  Speaker 2: Like that that's kind of where I was thinking.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go a little bit right I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you'd go with that right there I feel
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  Speaker 1: like they kind of started to tinkle off towards the
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: end of the year what what their third down rate
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  Speaker 1: was terrible Was it that bad down the stretch? Or, like,
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  Speaker 1: we're doing revisionist history here.
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  Speaker 2: Nine.
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  Speaker 1: Their ninth in red zone touchdown rate. Which, okay, like,
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  Speaker 1: we kind of had, like, the up and down, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But not... I didn't know they had one of the
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: worst third down rates.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy. I didn't know that either.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: Places Chicago offense 2025 chart. 10 plus yard run rate.
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  Speaker 1: They're for sure first. They got to be... For sure, first.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look at Devon A-chain, baby.
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  Speaker 1: That's insane. Look at Devon A-chain. Dang, look at those
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  Speaker 1: Steelers in Washington last year.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 1: That's insane. But 20-plus yard pass rate? I think they're
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: going to be in the upper quartile.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to be around the Ravens.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about this area right here?
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  Speaker 2: I put them a little bit higher.
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  Speaker 1: Like, right here?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe even a little bit higher. Hey, I'm gonna trust you.
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  Speaker 3: They were better than the Bucks passing. I feel like
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  Speaker 3: they were better than the Jags passing last year.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: They were so good.
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  Speaker 2: They were so good late in the year. But at
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: the beginning, they started off slow.
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  Speaker 1: They were really good running, though. I don't know. I say, like,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: I honestly think around, like, Ravens-ish. I didn't realize how
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: good the Dolphins' offense was last year as far as
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: explosive plays. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: On runs. On runs. That's it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, middle of the pack, 20-plus yard pass rate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for passing. They still had Waddle. Yeah, I'm cool
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  Speaker 2: with that. Or if you want to go down a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more, closer to the Ravens.
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  Speaker 1: Nah, I'm going to trust you. I'm going to trust
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  Speaker 1: you here.
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  Speaker 2: Oh! No way. Who the hell was running the ball better? Saquon?
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  Speaker 1: Saquon?
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  Speaker 2: Really? Dude, I swear to you.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: And Aaron Jones? That's insane. James Cook, I get that. Rams.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that.
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  Speaker 1: No way the Dolphins had the best 10-plus-yard run rate.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: That's a stat right there. That's a stat. Yeah. I
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: know A-Chain's crew. Place a New England offense on the
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: 2025 chart. Going up is red zone touchdown rate. Going
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: right is 10-plus-yard run rate. And, of course, we didn't
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: happen to see where the Patriots were at all.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: I'm for sure going to be over there by, like...
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: Kansas City? Jacksonville?
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  Speaker 2: No, I was going to say the 49ers. 49ers, Bengals.
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  Speaker 2: Because they were so... You got to think about how efficient...
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: They were, like, literally one of the most efficient offenses
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL last year.
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  Speaker 1: They were. I just wonder... They just.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't run the ball. Well, that's kind of like.
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  Speaker 1: The middle of the road. It was the end of
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: the year, too. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right.
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  Speaker 3: So that's kind of the middle of the road. I
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  Speaker 3: feel like right in that area, though, is where they
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: would be at.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to trust it. I'm going to trust it.
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  Speaker 1: I trust it. Let's see.
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  Speaker 2: Oh. What?
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  Speaker 1: Dang.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. They were closed by the Packers? I guess
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: the Titans.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, middle of the pack, 13th out of 32, 16th. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is our last one.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, I could have sworn, wasn't like Drake May like
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: super glazed because he was like the most efficient quarterback
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: in the NFL?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it also was like down the field. It was
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: a bunch of down the field passing too.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: Place a Pittsburgh offense 2025 chart. Oh, we just did this.
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  Speaker 1: I forgot. Red zone touchdown rate going up. Third down
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  Speaker 1: conversion rate was positive.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's over there by the Panthers, Seahawks. Really?
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  Speaker 1: You think it's right there? Oh yeah, I think it is.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: Or maybe, did we do this last time and they
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: were actually on the other side? I think where you
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: had it was right.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: I think so. I think so.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: Or it's vice versa.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we were shocked though. I feel like
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: we were shocked.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we had it off by like.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: Like just a separate quartile.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: That's where we had it off. I don't know. I'm
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: going to stick with this. I think that's what it was.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: We did it again.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: Dang it. Okay, well, what was the results? Okay, we
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: got a C +. Yeah, we got a C +.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: That's not bad. That's not bad. We'll do better next
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: time around. But all right, Breck, before we get out
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: of here, so-called MVP, one MVP that stood out throughout
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: this week.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: Carl Schlesinger. He had, I think it was like 14
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: tackles on the game.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: He had three sacks. He had four QB hits. He
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: was absolutely balling out at the linebacker position.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: Had three sacks. It was insane.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: So my so-called MVP, I was trying to give it
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: to one of them, but I couldn't. I think this
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: is an underrated duo right now, Matt Golden and Christian Watson.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: 335 combined yards and two touchdowns, your third and fourth
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: in receiving yards. And it might sound crazy right now,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: but as of this year, the best duo, best wide
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: receiver duo, statistically, you can't argue against that. You can't.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: So those are my dual so-called MVPs this week. Any
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: last words before we get out of here, Breck?
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: No, man. God bless. Hoot at. Go Saints. And we'll
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  Speaker 2: see you all next week.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see you all next week where, actually, I
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: know this is random. Brecken was the worst one in pick-ems,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: and he got 12 out of 14.
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  Speaker 2: This week? Yeah.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: You were 12 out of 14, and you got third
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: in pick-ems. But I got 14 out of 14. I
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: got every pick right.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: I picked some, like, crazy-ass upsets this week, too. And
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: I think that's probably the two.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you picked the Bucs and the Jets.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: Bucs almost cashed. I know. I know.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: And, actually, we got done before 1.30 in the morning,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: so that's a dub in our books. But, all right,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: we're going to get out of here. We'll see you
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: guys next week when both the Saints and Cowboys win
• 1:45:27
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• 1:45:29
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• 1:45:32
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• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: Peace.