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295: Sister Wives Recap - Extending An Olive Branch (S20 E10) · Reality TV Cringe

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Speaker 2: Thank you in.
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Speaker 1: Thank you that, Beatrice. After watching this episode of Sister Wives,
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Speaker 1: did you have any takeaways, any primary thoughts you'd like
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Speaker 1: to share with the class.
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Speaker 2: Look, I'm gonna try and not be negative in this recap.
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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see how that comes on.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna try really hard because I know we watched
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Speaker 2: the show. We enjoy it. This is our job. We're professional,
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Speaker 2: so we're here, okay, But why do we have to
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Speaker 2: have the apology tour? And why is TLC posting an
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Speaker 2: infographic of the apology tour on their Instagram, like playing
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Speaker 2: into it. It just it's so fake.
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Speaker 1: None of it is genuine and so insincere.
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Speaker 2: I hate it so much.
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Speaker 1: And you really get a sense of that when you
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Speaker 1: watch Robin and him out to dinner and he's kind
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Speaker 1: of explaining why he wants to do it. I'm just like, oh,
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Speaker 1: so you're just eking out the season so you can
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Speaker 1: get more money. That was That was my takeaway. Yep,
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Speaker 1: And that's it. That's that's all I got.
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Speaker 2: That's all it is.
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Speaker 1: All right, So, without further ado, let's get into Sister
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Speaker 1: Wife season twenty, episode ten, Episode.
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Speaker 2: Ten entitle extending in Olive Branch a rotten all of branch.
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Speaker 2: But we start off with Janelle, who is still in
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Speaker 2: New Orleans on her girls trip, and she goes to
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Speaker 2: dinner with all of her friends and they have some
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Speaker 2: more like fake producer driven conversations about dating, which Janella
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Speaker 2: is not ready to date. We've already talked about this
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Speaker 2: ad nauseum. I'm just stop pressuring our girl. She's fine
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Speaker 2: living her best life on her farm. She don't need
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Speaker 2: no man. I know we would all love to see
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Speaker 2: her with a man, but she don't want it right now,
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Speaker 2: but we're going to keep pressuring her. And then we
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Speaker 2: get into a conversation about polygamy, and they ask Janelle
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Speaker 2: something about like how it was when she told her
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Speaker 2: mom that she was going to be a polygamist, and
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Speaker 2: then we go back into the archives and about her
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Speaker 2: mom again and then talk about like how Janelle's family
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Speaker 2: didn't approve of polygamy, which is interesting a little because
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Speaker 2: Janelle's mom entered into polygamy. So I'm just like, oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: The way Janelle has always told it is that her mom, Cheryl, right, yeah,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl came and needed to check Cody out because she
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Speaker 1: was very worried about Janelle and she was disapproving of
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Speaker 1: this polygamous lifestyle. And when she got there, she saw
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Speaker 1: that Honka Honka burn in love Win and fell in
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Speaker 1: love with him and in fact ended up marrying when
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Speaker 1: three months before Janelle and Cody got married, which is wild.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like we've already heard this.
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Speaker 1: And I think we read it in a couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks a couple of those books.
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Speaker 2: Yes, But then it goes into conversations about her marriage,
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Speaker 2: and I think one of the other friends I don't
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Speaker 2: remember all of their names, really, so I apologize. But
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Speaker 2: one of the other friends asks Janelle or says to Janelle, well,
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Speaker 2: your marriage to Cody was good in the beginning, And
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Speaker 2: then she asks if there was women before Robin, and
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Speaker 2: Janelle says there was one, but they didn't approve of her,
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Speaker 2: so it didn't work out. And then Janelle talks a
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Speaker 2: little bit of shit about Cody and says again like
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Speaker 2: when he turned fifty, he just stopped wanting to do
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Speaker 2: polygamy and stop wanting to be like the patriarch of
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Speaker 2: the family and have all of the responsibility on his shoulders.
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Speaker 2: But she says, she's putting words in his mouth, so
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Speaker 2: she is speculating.
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Speaker 1: This is her interpretation of events as they happened, and
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Speaker 1: of course they happened around the time of COVID, making
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Speaker 1: it very convenient for Cody to lock himself away in
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Speaker 1: that McMansion with Robin and the Haunted dolls and the
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Speaker 1: Etsy dolls.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the dolls and the statue right yes. And
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Speaker 2: then another friend asks Janelle jokingly like would you ever
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Speaker 2: go to counseling with codium Robin? And Janelle's like, fuck no, yeah,
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Speaker 2: why why would I ever do that? I basically hate them.
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Speaker 2: She talks about the spiritual release again, she is going
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Speaker 2: to move forward with it, which is great, let's get
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Speaker 2: to it. I'd love to see it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're talking a lot about it, and I
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Speaker 1: would prefer to actually see the process of it versus
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Speaker 1: you going to New Orleans and throwing beads at guys
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Speaker 1: who are showing their dad bots on Bourbon Street. But like,
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Speaker 1: what Ever's I mean?
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Speaker 2: That's great. I'm glad that you're living like a fun
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Speaker 2: life now because you grew up conservative and stuff. That's awesome.
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Speaker 1: But well, it feels to me like she's in a
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Speaker 1: hostage situation. I don't think Janelle, under any circumstances would
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Speaker 1: actually want to go to Bourbon Street and like dance
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Speaker 1: in the street.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like she hates that.
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Speaker 1: But she's only doing it because, again, as we discussed
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Speaker 1: last week, like this is her livelihood. She realizes, well, shit,
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Speaker 1: if I want to build my house, yeah, if I
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Speaker 1: want to have a life, I need to develop some
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Speaker 1: streams of income and this is one. This is my
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Speaker 1: biggest one. TLC.
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Speaker 2: Definitely, I was talking to Ethel about this earlier today
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Speaker 2: and she thinks there's going to be like at least
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Speaker 2: five more seasons of Sister Wives, because they're gonna milk it,
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Speaker 2: my god, until the milk runs dry, and we're gonna
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Speaker 2: have a lot of content like this, I'm sure if
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Speaker 2: she's right. Can't you see it though? Can't you see
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Speaker 2: them going five more seasons until the ratings just absolutely
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Speaker 2: fucking plummet because nobody wants to watch this anymore?
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Speaker 1: How many seasons did the Duggers get again?
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Speaker 2: I don't know. They canceled because of all the eldest
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Speaker 2: son being a girate.
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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, but not as many as like twenty seasons
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Speaker 1: like we've got with the broad Like this, Is this
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Speaker 1: the longest running show that TLC has ever done?
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Maybe I think it's or ninety days to say, I
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Speaker 1: don't really, I don't really know. I think it predates
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Speaker 1: ninety Day Fiance.
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Speaker 2: I think so too.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, I can see it
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Speaker 1: going for another five years. I just don't know what
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Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about unless we start incorporating
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Speaker 1: some of the older kids and their families and their
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Speaker 1: actual feelings about things. I just don't know. Are we
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Speaker 1: just supposed to go to restaurants? With Cordy and Robin
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Speaker 1: constantly like oh no.
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Speaker 2: I mean we did get a little bit with Maddie
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Speaker 2: later in the episode, which I did appreciate it, and
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Speaker 2: I'm like, give me more of this from the older kids.
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Speaker 2: That would be very entertaining. But I don't want to
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Speaker 2: see Cody and Robin or in this next sub segment,
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Speaker 2: Mary and Amber planning their Vegas trip and talking about
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Speaker 2: all of the dating stuff they're going to be doing
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Speaker 2: and egg plants and they want to go to strip
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Speaker 2: clubs and they're going to party.
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Speaker 1: I'm bored. I'm bored too. I'm also cringing, yeah a
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Speaker 1: little bit. I just feel like this is awkward for
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Speaker 1: me to watch. But I mean, I know you want
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Speaker 1: your hot girl summer, which is great and I love
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Speaker 1: that for you in Amber, you too, But I just
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Speaker 1: is this all you got?
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Speaker 2: I know?
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Speaker 1: Is this the only thing that you can provide in
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Speaker 1: terms of content?
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Speaker 2: Like can we stop giggling like little schoolgirls about eggplants
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Speaker 2: and stuff? Like you're grown women. Yeah you've seen peepies
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Speaker 2: and stuff.
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Speaker 1: Whoa one one?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well for Mary, yeah, so it's like we.
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Speaker 1: Know the thing that just took me out though, I
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Speaker 1: mean guess guess what took me out when I was
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Speaker 1: watching Mary and Amber.
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Speaker 2: If you guess her straightening her hair. Yeah, yeah, her straightening.
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Speaker 2: Did you notice how it stuck up? It stuff up
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Speaker 2: like this after she's straightened it.
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Speaker 1: I'm just like, Marry girl, Oh, you gotta stop doing
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Speaker 1: that to your hair. I just wanted her to shake
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Speaker 1: it out a little bit, or like just a little
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Speaker 1: bit of softness around your face, but it stick straight
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Speaker 1: and damage. God, I really need her to stop doing that.
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Speaker 1: She thinks she does look good in her little black
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Speaker 1: denim jackets. I think she's looking great. Yeah, but the hair, bitch,
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Speaker 1: the hair is too much for Mammadelia.
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Speaker 2: It's giving realtor chic.
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Speaker 1: I'm just like, it's giving twilight. Yeah, it's literally just
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Speaker 1: giving twilight.
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Speaker 2: But you know, somebody commented on our YouTube channel, I
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Speaker 2: think it was last week or the week before when
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Speaker 2: we were talking about Cody's hair, and they were like,
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Speaker 2: your guys's hair is terrible too, And I'm like, these
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Speaker 2: are wigs?
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Speaker 1: Are you serious?
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Speaker 2: They're like you're one to comment. I'm like, Cody's literally bald.
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Speaker 1: And who out here on God's green planet is defending
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Speaker 1: Cody comments? What kind of life are you living if
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Speaker 1: you're defending Cody in the comments, I know, give me
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Speaker 1: a break.
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Speaker 2: But I'm sure people will comment the same thing with
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Speaker 2: us talking about Mary's hair, but I'm like, they literally
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Speaker 2: showed her straightening it so bad. It's so damage that
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Speaker 2: it's sticking up like it was ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: And also, I'm literally trying to help. Sure, I'm just
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Speaker 1: trying to do her if you could just let it
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Speaker 1: grow out a little bit, because we get these flashbacks
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Speaker 1: incessantly with the same photos of the wedding and her youth,
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Speaker 1: but like her hair used to be long and there
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Speaker 1: was waves in her hair. I'm just like, maybe could
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Speaker 1: we compromise just a little bit of length and some
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Speaker 1: softness around your face. I think it would do wondrous
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Speaker 1: for her.
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Speaker 2: It would be great.
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Speaker 1: That's just my raccoon opinion.
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Speaker 2: I agree. But nevertheless, Mary's feeling herself. She says she's
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Speaker 2: never been this confident in her life, which I love,
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Speaker 2: which is great, And she does say something to the
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Speaker 2: effect of like she's been dealing with imposter syndrome ever
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Speaker 2: since the divorce with Cody, and you know, totally fair
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Speaker 2: and valid because she even talks about her relationship with
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Speaker 2: Cody and how the most frustrating thing for her was
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Speaker 2: that he never communicated to her his separation and she
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Speaker 2: felt like their whole marriage was a lie, that it
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Speaker 2: was founded on lies. And now she's hashtag worthying up
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Speaker 2: and she's trying to live her hot girl summer, which
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Speaker 2: is great. Yeah, it's just a wee bit cringey.
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Speaker 1: Yeah it's cringey to watch. But also I do want
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Speaker 1: the best for her, and I want her to be
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Speaker 1: feeling herself. And I do think that she's just been
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Speaker 1: through a colossal mind fuck that lasted thirty three years
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Speaker 1: of her whole life married to this guy dedicated to
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Speaker 1: her faith. In the entire time, he didn't love her,
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Speaker 1: he didn't want her. Like how that must make her feel.
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Speaker 1: And the kind of excavation she's got to do psychologically
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Speaker 1: to like pull that up and look at it and
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Speaker 1: then work it out and then come to a place
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Speaker 1: where she's accepting herself that's pretty impressive, actually, definitely, And
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Speaker 1: so she deserves to find somebody who can meet her
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Speaker 1: at her level and like she said, who will consider
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Speaker 1: it to be a privilege in her presence. I do
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Speaker 1: want that for her.
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Speaker 2: I do I do too.
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Speaker 1: What's wrong?
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Speaker 2: Then, I said, I wasn't going to be negative.
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Speaker 1: Well, we've already been negative. You can say what you
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Speaker 1: have to say, Okay, don't.
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Speaker 2: Then it's all right. We'll just leave it at that.
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Speaker 2: She does deserve a man who will bow down to
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Speaker 2: her and be like, oh my god, what.
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Speaker 1: A privilege it is to be in your honor and
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Speaker 1: bear it down, and that you can nail yourself.
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Speaker 2: I mean, but it's a little crazy.
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Speaker 1: I'm just like, well, calm out, but I mean when
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Speaker 1: you compare and contrast with what she's just come out of,
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Speaker 1: when she was so underappreciated and literally invisible. Absolutely, she's
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Speaker 1: looking for somebody who values her and honors her and
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Speaker 1: wants her to be and wants to be with her.
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Speaker 2: And that is totally fair.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I was talking to Ethel about this too, and she
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Speaker 2: says Mary needs to just come out as a lesbian
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Speaker 2: and date Amber or something, and I agree.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad at it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I would love that for her. Then we
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Speaker 2: shift gears and we have Christine Isabelle truly and David
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Speaker 2: going bowling and a Mesonnor. I literally said out loud
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Speaker 2: while watching it to my TV. I'm like, are we
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Speaker 2: really going bowling? Right now?
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Speaker 1: We are?
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Speaker 2: All right, We're going bowling. There's not much that came
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Speaker 2: out of this section really besides the fact that David's
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Speaker 2: a jokester. And we hear from Isabelle a little bit,
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Speaker 2: and she talks about how she was nervous about David
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Speaker 2: coming into the family. She was worried he was going
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Speaker 2: to replace her dad, because there really is just one
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Speaker 2: and only dad. But David's really great. He's really great
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Speaker 2: with all of the kids, not just her, and he's
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Speaker 2: very respectful and doesn't overstep his place, says Christine's husband.
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Speaker 2: And Isabelle says, you know, even though I don't have
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Speaker 2: much of a relationship with my dad, like, it's still
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Speaker 2: my dad and I don't want anybody trying to replace him.
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Speaker 2: That's all fair and valid. And she also says that
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Speaker 2: she doesn't hear from Cody at all and they're not close,
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Speaker 2: but she still loves him.
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Speaker 1: We didn't even mention that we were going to have
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Speaker 1: an after party after this, No, it did have, and
14:49
Speaker 1: so let me just mention that now. And the reason
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Speaker 1: we're going to primarily have and after party is because
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Speaker 1: Cody's been doing the rounds in various interviews talking about
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Speaker 1: how he's reconnecting with his children and he's making up
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Speaker 1: all this shit and we all know it's a lie.
15:05
Speaker 1: And of course Leon came out on Instagram and made
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Speaker 1: a bold statement, and so we're going to talk about
15:11
Speaker 1: that statement in the after show and we're gonna give
15:14
Speaker 1: our opinions about that because it was it was it
15:17
Speaker 1: was a great statement. It was great love that statement.
15:20
Speaker 1: It was very And also you've probably heard, if you're
15:23
Speaker 1: following Seeking Sister Wives in our coverage there that Garrick
15:26
Speaker 1: Merryfield was arrested for domestic violence a bitch, So we're
15:29
Speaker 1: going to talk about that in the after show as well.
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Speaker 1: So if you are a part of our Patreon, you
15:34
Speaker 1: will just continue after the recap, we'll go right into
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Speaker 1: the after show. If you're not on Patreon, then come
15:40
Speaker 1: on over because you have access to all of that
15:41
Speaker 1: and we continue the fun and we really get into
15:44
Speaker 1: the grittiness of it all. Yes, but this made me
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Speaker 1: hurt my heartball watching Isabelle because she's such a tender spirit.
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Speaker 1: Do we know her sign. She's giving cancer, she's giving piping,
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Speaker 1: she's giving water, She's just a lovely baby, and she
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Speaker 1: wants her daddy, and he refused to sing to her
16:04
Speaker 1: when she came out of surgery, he refused to be there.
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Speaker 1: He has been the most despicable dad, But like, it
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter when you're a child and you just want
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Speaker 1: your father exactly. It breaks my heart, but at least
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Speaker 1: she has David. And I do want to make a
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Speaker 1: comment there when they go into the bowling alley, you know,
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Speaker 1: he gets one of those disgusting bowling shoes and he
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Speaker 1: puts it right in her face to smell the shoe.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't and I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't like that at all. It's like when my
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Speaker 1: brother came over for Thanksgiving, this this like three days
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Speaker 1: ago or whatever. He came over. The first thing he
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Speaker 1: did as I'm in the kitchen preparing food, is he farted,
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Speaker 1: like this huge fart, terrible and he just laughed at it.
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Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, so, yeah, this is how we're starting.
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Speaker 1: How you're gonna fart while I'm kind of David gives
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Speaker 1: some of that same energy and after a while that
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Speaker 1: would probably be very exhausting.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like, why can't you just not all
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Speaker 2: always joke or not always play pranks or whatever, Like,
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Speaker 2: why can't it just be neutral and normal, just chill
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Speaker 2: like we're just vibing, you know, like we're just girls. Right,
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Speaker 2: go into the bowling alley. You don't need a stuff
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Speaker 2: a bowling shoe in my face.
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Speaker 1: I mean, and if somebody put a disgusting bowling shoe
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Speaker 1: which has seen the likes of a bazillion grody, fungal feet,
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Speaker 1: into my face, yeah, it is proximate and potentially touching
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Speaker 1: my skin. Honey, we are throwing he yeah.
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Speaker 2: For sure.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting that they were referencing the
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Speaker 2: fact that he's a jokester. But I'm like, I'm wondering
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Speaker 2: if y'all are getting annoyed with that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit, it would be exhausting. Yeah, I
17:40
Speaker 1: just calm down a little bit.
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Speaker 2: If it's all the time, Yeah, you know, like maybe just.
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Speaker 1: Chill out a little well. And he even talks about
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Speaker 1: like when truly is in a personicity mood, he just
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Speaker 1: gives her some sarcastic remark and snaps her out of it.
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Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I'm just getting a tone, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: just a little vibracion that I'm picking up from David
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Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily aligned with it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, me neither. And I'll just leave it at that. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be negative, Okay. And then we get
18:07
Speaker 2: into Cody and Robin going to dinner some booty ass
18:11
Speaker 2: place and flag Staff, and this is where Cody announces
18:17
Speaker 2: that he's going to be going on his apology tour.
18:21
Speaker 2: But first we have to have a discussion about it,
18:23
Speaker 2: like this is the first idea that he's had, and
18:27
Speaker 2: he wants to get Robin's genuine opinions about it. And
18:31
Speaker 2: we have to pretend like this is a real conversation
18:33
Speaker 2: and that they didn't just talk about this with their
18:35
Speaker 2: producers or their management before the season aired. They're talking
18:39
Speaker 2: about it organically right now in front of the cameras. Yeah,
18:42
Speaker 2: so what did you think about this whole?
18:45
Speaker 1: I don't know, honey. Every time I see the word
18:48
Speaker 1: flagstaff on the television, I just like clench. Yeah. I
18:52
Speaker 1: just can't stand them. And it's a marvel to me.
18:57
Speaker 1: The shape of Robin's mouth, just this these two lines,
19:01
Speaker 1: I know, I don't even think they're marionettelines. It's just
19:04
Speaker 1: her mouth and the way it's constantly frowning so deeply
19:09
Speaker 1: she's just an unhappy person. And now we have to
19:12
Speaker 1: have another scene where they're performing for the cameras, and
19:16
Speaker 1: Cody can't even get out his plan without equivocating. He
19:21
Speaker 1: has to say, well, I know there's some things that
19:24
Speaker 1: I did wrong, and like I shouldn't have said them,
19:27
Speaker 1: but I was. I was led to do that because
19:29
Speaker 1: of the betrayal in my family, and of course I'm
19:32
Speaker 1: just reacting to their terrible behavior. Well, like for the
19:36
Speaker 1: part that I did, I should say I am sorry,
19:40
Speaker 1: Like I'm just like, that's not how this works. Your
19:44
Speaker 1: apology should be unconditional. Your acceptance of responsibility should be unequivocal.
19:51
Speaker 1: It should not. It shouldn't hinge upon whether they take
19:54
Speaker 1: responsibility for the shit that they did wrong. It shouldn't
19:57
Speaker 1: hinge upon their acknowledgment that you didn't do everything. Like
20:01
Speaker 1: it should just be a blanket. I was wrong, and
20:05
Speaker 1: I am sorry, and I conducted myself in an inappropriate
20:08
Speaker 1: and even an abusive manner, and I want to make
20:10
Speaker 1: up for that, and you don't owe me an opportunity
20:13
Speaker 1: to do that, but I just want to share with
20:15
Speaker 1: you my intention, Like that's what it is supposed to give.
20:19
Speaker 1: Yep and he's so dumb, unintelligent emotionally and in his
20:25
Speaker 1: brain ball like he doesn't he thinks he's doing something
20:29
Speaker 1: in front of the cameras. He thinks he's being benevolent.
20:31
Speaker 1: He uses the word benevolent. I seek to be benevolent
20:34
Speaker 1: to my underlings. But he's just coming across as even
20:38
Speaker 1: more of a malignant narcissist, which gives me rage. And
20:42
Speaker 1: then he, like you know, sends that ball over to Robin,
20:45
Speaker 1: and she's like, well, like, you know, despite these kids
20:49
Speaker 1: being influenced and misunderstanding some of what happened, like I
20:54
Speaker 1: think the impulse is a good one.
20:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, And she also throws him a bone and is like, well,
20:59
Speaker 2: it's okay to be hurt, though, and you shouldn't have
21:02
Speaker 2: to apologize for your hurt feelings. And it's like, oh
21:05
Speaker 2: my god, you two are two piece and a pod.
21:08
Speaker 2: You're perfect for each other. But Cody introduces this whole
21:11
Speaker 2: thing by saying it was a traumatic experience. He was
21:15
Speaker 2: manipulated and unsafe with the OG three and that's why,
21:20
Speaker 2: like you had said, that's why he's saying I was
21:23
Speaker 2: so mean and I'm not an asshole, but I have
21:26
Speaker 2: the potential to be one sometimes or something like that.
21:30
Speaker 1: Doesn't he reference being surprised that other people actually find
21:35
Speaker 1: him to be an asshole? Yes, I believe him, and
21:38
Speaker 1: I think this is further compounded by what happened after
21:41
Speaker 1: Special Forces. Ye, when he learns how everybody else actually
21:45
Speaker 1: thinks he's an absolute ahole and how that must have
21:48
Speaker 1: been so shocking to him. I'm wondering when this is filmed, Like,
21:51
Speaker 1: is this filmed after we've after he's seen what they
21:55
Speaker 1: said on Special Forces or is it before. I'm like
21:58
Speaker 1: wondering about the timeline.
22:00
Speaker 2: He kind of looks more toned in this scene, so
22:03
Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's after Special Forces, because I mean, Special
22:05
Speaker 2: Forces is only like a week. It's not like he's
22:08
Speaker 2: gone for that long.
22:09
Speaker 1: And it's like in June. Yeah, And I'm not sure
22:11
Speaker 1: when he would have received the copies of the episodes
22:14
Speaker 1: to watch.
22:15
Speaker 2: I'm not sure either, but maybe he heard about it before.
22:18
Speaker 1: So it's not just your wives who think your assholes,
22:21
Speaker 1: it's not just your kids who think you're an asshole,
22:24
Speaker 1: but like the people on Special Forces. So he's coming
22:26
Speaker 1: to the realization that he's not well liked, and so
22:29
Speaker 1: I think that's probably why he wants to do this
22:32
Speaker 1: apology tour and attempt to rehab his image and convince
22:36
Speaker 1: us that it's genuine. But it's not because you can't
22:39
Speaker 1: even say it without laying blame on other people.
22:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, he literally says, I will not apologize for what
22:45
Speaker 2: I'm being accused of. I'll only apologize for what I
22:48
Speaker 2: know I did wrong, And then he says the thing
22:50
Speaker 2: that he did wrong was saying I didn't love them,
22:53
Speaker 2: and that's it. I'm like, okay, not calling your kids'
22:55
Speaker 2: assholes and talking shit about their moms on national TV
22:58
Speaker 2: for multiple seasons, screaming at their mom, screaming at them,
23:01
Speaker 2: saying that you were unattracted to Christine and that Janelle's
23:04
Speaker 2: a bitch and Mary's a bit. Like it's just so
23:07
Speaker 2: frustrating and I can't believe we're even giving them airtime.
23:11
Speaker 2: And I know we're talking about them because this is
23:13
Speaker 2: our job and we have a professional prodcast, so we
23:16
Speaker 2: have to talk about them, but like so professional, professional,
23:20
Speaker 2: but it's just it's so frustrating that TLC is even
23:23
Speaker 2: giving them this and putting them on an apology tour
23:27
Speaker 2: when we all know, like all the viewers and even
23:30
Speaker 2: the OG wives are skeptical of Cody's intensions with this
23:33
Speaker 2: whole apology tour, So I don't know why we're doing it.
23:36
Speaker 2: Everyone seems to know that it's for content and that
23:39
Speaker 2: it's all a bunch of bs, but we're gonna pretend
23:42
Speaker 2: like it's not.
23:43
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess we're along for the ride.
23:46
Speaker 2: Oh and one thing I did want to highlight in
23:48
Speaker 2: this whole conversation with him and Robin was that he
23:50
Speaker 2: kept calling it a pilgrimage. Yeah, and he has used
23:53
Speaker 2: that verbiage multiple times throughout this series on various things,
23:58
Speaker 2: like it was a pilgrimage to go to AA, Is
24:00
Speaker 2: it was a pilgrimage to go to Navu?
24:02
Speaker 1: Was it a pilgrimage to go to Garrison's funeral?
24:04
Speaker 2: Yes, it was because he had to bring his ashes
24:07
Speaker 2: and everything. And so now it's I'm going on a
24:09
Speaker 2: pilgrimage and it's a I've got a sense of purpose now,
24:12
Speaker 2: And it's like, no, you don't, though, It's it's just
24:15
Speaker 2: for you to feel better about your shitty behavior and
24:18
Speaker 2: be like, well but I apologize though, so I'm a
24:21
Speaker 2: good person.
24:22
Speaker 1: And also to frame what it is that you're doing
24:24
Speaker 1: is something sacred yes, which it is not.
24:27
Speaker 2: And then we have to hear from Robin saying that
24:29
Speaker 2: it was a really big deal for her to hear
24:31
Speaker 2: that Cody was not in love with the exes. She
24:33
Speaker 2: calls them the exes and because that's what made me
24:37
Speaker 2: fall in love with Cody. And so I'm just he's
24:40
Speaker 2: got to own it, and I've just got to keep
24:42
Speaker 2: my opinions out of it so I don't influence him further.
24:45
Speaker 1: Sure, lady, I just can't. But then I thought it
24:48
Speaker 1: was very rich how she made it about herself. She
24:50
Speaker 1: did what he needs to do in order to reconcile.
24:53
Speaker 1: These relationships must always blow back and come back to her,
24:57
Speaker 1: her experience, how she grew up in polygamy, and what
25:00
Speaker 1: she thinks about it exactly. It's just frustrating.
25:04
Speaker 2: Then we go back to North Carolina. Janelle's back home
25:07
Speaker 2: from New Orleans and she has a little conversation with
25:09
Speaker 2: Maddie Yes, which was a little interesting. She does tell
25:13
Speaker 2: Maddie that after she got back from New Orleans, she
25:15
Speaker 2: got a text from Cody wanting to come out to
25:19
Speaker 2: North Carolina and have dinner with her and extend an
25:22
Speaker 2: olive branch and of course Janelle is already dubious, and
25:26
Speaker 2: so is Maddie. Maddie's like, do you think it's actually
25:29
Speaker 2: because he wants to extend olive branch? Or is there
25:33
Speaker 2: something else going on? And Janelle is kind of I
25:37
Speaker 2: don't even know what the word is. She's not really
25:40
Speaker 2: giving into what Maddie's saying. Mattie says something like maybe
25:45
Speaker 2: it's just because he's no longer in your life, and
25:48
Speaker 2: so he senses that and he now he wants to
25:50
Speaker 2: emotionally insert himself into your life again to exert some control.
25:54
Speaker 2: And Janelle kind of blows that off and is like, no,
25:57
Speaker 2: I don't know.
25:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, she seemed a little ambivalent, and she seemed, I guess,
26:02
Speaker 1: somewhat open to it. But the entire time I'm watching
26:05
Speaker 1: this scene, I'm thinking to myself, well, did he ask
26:09
Speaker 1: about Maddie and her kids? Did he ask about Micheltie
26:12
Speaker 1: and their kids? Did he ask about Savannah?
26:15
Speaker 2: Like?
26:16
Speaker 1: Is he going to see any of his children? Here's
26:19
Speaker 1: a lot of his children and grandchildren are there in
26:22
Speaker 1: North Carolina? Has he mentioned any of them? And are
26:25
Speaker 1: we going to get a scene where he actually gets
26:27
Speaker 1: to see any of them? Because my sense of it
26:30
Speaker 1: is that he's not going to see any of his
26:32
Speaker 1: children or his grandchildren. My sense is that he does
26:34
Speaker 1: not even care about it, And that's probably why Maddie
26:39
Speaker 1: is looking the way she is in the scene, because, yeah,
26:41
Speaker 1: we're talking. I'm talking to my mom about what's happening
26:44
Speaker 1: in the relationship that she has with my dad, But
26:46
Speaker 1: what about me exactly? What about me exactly?
26:49
Speaker 2: And Janelle tries to speak to it a little bit
26:51
Speaker 2: and says that it would take a lot of work
26:54
Speaker 2: for Cody to actually repair his relationships with his kids,
26:58
Speaker 2: And she asks Maddie some stupid question like, well, would
27:01
Speaker 2: you accept it if your dad extended in all of
27:04
Speaker 2: Branch And Matty's like, well, I would accept like forgiveness,
27:08
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't accept him just extending in all of
27:11
Speaker 2: Branch because I would have to see a pattern of
27:14
Speaker 2: consistency for me to know that it's real and he's changed.
27:19
Speaker 2: And seems like that sentiment is echoed across a lot
27:23
Speaker 2: of the older kids and even some of the ones
27:25
Speaker 2: that aren't talking about it publicly yet, But it seems
27:29
Speaker 2: like that's the general vibe.
27:32
Speaker 1: Because I think Mattie is suspicious that he's doing this
27:35
Speaker 1: for the television show. I wonder if maybe Cody's a
27:40
Speaker 1: little worried that some of these women might not want
27:44
Speaker 1: to continue with the show, Like if the relationships are
27:47
Speaker 1: so acrimonious between the og wives and Cody and Robin, like,
27:51
Speaker 1: and if they're setting themselves up for financial success on
27:54
Speaker 1: their own, like, well, maybe why would they need to
27:56
Speaker 1: continue to do the show. And if they start dropping
27:59
Speaker 1: out of the show, like Janelle or Mary or Christine,
28:02
Speaker 1: where does that leave Cody and Robin? Where does that
28:05
Speaker 1: leave the show? Maybe he's doing this to cover his
28:08
Speaker 1: own ass and make sure the show can continue on
28:10
Speaker 1: because again, they don't got jobs. No, this is their
28:13
Speaker 1: whole entire livelihood. Yeah, and so it behooves him to
28:18
Speaker 1: try and make amends to some degree with these people
28:20
Speaker 1: so that they can continue to film content.
28:23
Speaker 2: I just hate it so much.
28:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, like manipulative.
28:25
Speaker 2: Yes, it's so manipulative. And I wish TLC would be like, yeah,
28:28
Speaker 2: we're firing you, Like that would be so great. It
28:30
Speaker 2: would just be so it would be wonderful.
28:32
Speaker 1: And the thing I think about sometimes is just to
28:35
Speaker 1: compare and contrast between TLC and Bravo, And I know
28:38
Speaker 1: I talk about it from time to time. But like
28:40
Speaker 1: on Bravo, you've got this cast of characters on something
28:44
Speaker 1: like a Real Housewives franchise. You've got some of these ladies,
28:48
Speaker 1: they're cool, they're great. Some of these ladies they're stirring
28:51
Speaker 1: the pot. And some of these ladies are straight up villains.
28:55
Speaker 1: And the producers know this, and so we have a
28:57
Speaker 1: certain season, but then season two, the producers are setting
29:02
Speaker 1: up the exposing of the villain. Or there's like always
29:06
Speaker 1: a takedown. Yeah, every season, somebody's getting taken down, and
29:09
Speaker 1: usually for good reason, but you just don't see that
29:12
Speaker 1: on TLC, Like Cody and Robin deserve a big takedown. Yeah,
29:18
Speaker 1: but we don't see production making that happen. There's so
29:22
Speaker 1: many clips, like we've said a million times, that they
29:25
Speaker 1: could play right after we've got a scene of them
29:28
Speaker 1: lying about something, but production doesn't seem to be interested
29:32
Speaker 1: in doing anything like that. The show would be infinitely
29:35
Speaker 1: better if they did. Infinitely you would get so many
29:38
Speaker 1: more people watching if we knew that there would be
29:41
Speaker 1: some kind of a reckoning for these people.
29:43
Speaker 2: Yes, because I'm sure that's why most of us are
29:45
Speaker 2: even watching, is just to maybe see one day Yep,
29:49
Speaker 2: Cody and Robin completely get decimated. It would be really great,
29:53
Speaker 2: or like just.
29:54
Speaker 1: To hear the facts about the lawsuit from Christine for childsport.
29:59
Speaker 1: She hasn't mentioned word one about that. And we're all
30:02
Speaker 1: interested the most thing, the most we're interested about. The
30:05
Speaker 1: thing we're most interested about isy the coins, yep, the money,
30:09
Speaker 1: and you just dance around it and you allude to
30:12
Speaker 1: things and it's completely frustrating.
30:14
Speaker 2: Well, and it's like we're gonna get instead of that,
30:16
Speaker 2: we're going to get a scene of Cody and David
30:19
Speaker 2: going go car racing, acting like Christine isn't suing his ass.
30:23
Speaker 1: You don't have to be medicated for that. Like, I
30:25
Speaker 1: don't think I can. I don't think I can make it.
30:27
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna have to go astroll. I have
30:29
Speaker 1: to watch from a higher place, disattached, disconnected.
30:33
Speaker 2: Higher place, I mean, honestly, because it's just going to
30:35
Speaker 2: be so frustrating. But anyway, the only other thing that
30:38
Speaker 2: came out of this scene with Janelle Maddie was that
30:41
Speaker 2: apparently Cody did check on Janelle on the anniversary year
30:44
Speaker 2: since death and on his birthday, which I was surprised
30:48
Speaker 2: to hear about honestly that he thought to call her
30:51
Speaker 2: about that. It's weird because it shows like there might
30:57
Speaker 2: be like a tiny little atom of kindness in Cody,
31:01
Speaker 2: or like a little bit of his heart left after
31:03
Speaker 2: the rest of it is just decayed with fame and greed.
31:06
Speaker 2: But it's just I don't know, Maybe it's another manipulation
31:10
Speaker 2: tactic with him and her.
31:12
Speaker 1: It's so hard to tell.
31:13
Speaker 2: And then the last scene of the episode is Cody
31:16
Speaker 2: traveling to North Carolina to go and apologize to Janelle,
31:20
Speaker 2: And of course this is where we leave off. It's
31:22
Speaker 2: the cliffhanger of the episode because we're going to get
31:24
Speaker 2: to the actual apology next week, but which.
31:27
Speaker 1: Is gonna be a nothing burger because Janelle is not
31:29
Speaker 1: going to hold his feet to the fire and we're
31:32
Speaker 1: not going to get what we want. But I did
31:34
Speaker 1: have to ask you, did we know, like collectively that
31:38
Speaker 1: Cody was that bow legged, Like when he's walking into
31:41
Speaker 1: the restaurant. I don't know, he's completely bow legged. He's
31:44
Speaker 1: got such a funny little Elvin.
31:46
Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe he tries to walk like that because his
31:49
Speaker 2: panties are too tight.
31:50
Speaker 1: Probably that's probably why it is. His thong is all
31:52
Speaker 1: the way up in the back.
31:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, the butt plug that Robin put in and
31:58
Speaker 2: it's a little too tight in there. But Cody goes
32:01
Speaker 2: on some bs about how he wanted to apologize to
32:04
Speaker 2: Janelle first because there's so much less toxicity with her.
32:07
Speaker 1: And he's not ready. He's not ready to seek Christine exactly,
32:11
Speaker 1: and Mary. He's not ready.
32:13
Speaker 2: He says his heart isn't soft enough to talk to
32:16
Speaker 2: Christine or Mary because there's so much animosity. It's like, okay,
32:20
Speaker 2: well then then why are you doing this. I thought
32:22
Speaker 2: this was a pilgrimage. I thought this was a sense
32:24
Speaker 2: of purpose and you wanted to right your wrongs. But
32:27
Speaker 2: now it's not soft enough and I'm still pissed at
32:30
Speaker 2: I'm unsafe, i still fucking hate them. And it also
32:34
Speaker 2: points to like how Cody has been able to get
32:38
Speaker 2: into Janelle's head a lot more than the other wives.
32:41
Speaker 2: Like he says something to the effect of, like, you know,
32:45
Speaker 2: with Janelle, I know how to talk to her and
32:47
Speaker 2: I know how to get through to her and we
32:49
Speaker 2: can have a good conversation and it's much less toxic.
32:52
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, because you know how to manipulate
32:55
Speaker 2: her better than the other ones, or maybe she's a
32:57
Speaker 2: little bit more docile than the other two.
33:00
Speaker 1: I think that they were working together on Coyote Pass,
33:04
Speaker 1: so they developed a bit of a rapport. And also
33:08
Speaker 1: Cody knows that Janelle knows all the financial stuff for
33:13
Speaker 1: the past however many years, and so maybe he's just
33:16
Speaker 1: a little bit more careful generally in how he addresses Janelle.
33:20
Speaker 1: And also I think there's a lot of Janelle not
33:22
Speaker 1: giving a fuck. Yeah, like she doesn't want to fight,
33:24
Speaker 1: She does not want to extend the energy to be
33:26
Speaker 1: in some drama with little Cody Brown. So she's less
33:29
Speaker 1: likely to be a Mary who we saw in the
33:32
Speaker 1: mid season trailer who's sitting down at a picnic table
33:35
Speaker 1: with him and she's like, well, are you going to
33:36
Speaker 1: admit that you're toxic? Oh bitch, Like I can't wait
33:39
Speaker 1: for that.
33:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm living for that.
33:41
Speaker 1: Janelle's not going to give any of that.
33:42
Speaker 2: No, Janelle's gonna be very whatever about it. She'd be like,
33:46
Speaker 2: I'm done, I'm gonna get the spiritual releef. Fine, okay, whatever,
33:49
Speaker 2: I accept your apology by thanks for the free food, though,
33:52
Speaker 2: Like that'll be Janelle. And then we have the previews,
33:55
Speaker 2: so we have Mary and Amber going to that Vegas
33:59
Speaker 2: dating event and was it a speed dating thing?
34:02
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't care.
34:05
Speaker 2: And then we have Robin saying right after this scene
34:09
Speaker 2: that she feels bad for people having to date in
34:12
Speaker 2: this climate because things have changed so much.
34:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got to be so hard for those poor
34:17
Speaker 1: ladies out there. This poor single bitch is single, dumb.
34:20
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't relate. And then we have
34:23
Speaker 2: Christine saying she doesn't trust Cody at all, doesn't want
34:26
Speaker 2: to have to talk to him whatsoever, because I think
34:28
Speaker 2: she got the invitation to his apology dinner with her
34:32
Speaker 2: and she's just like, why don't trust you? Don't want
34:36
Speaker 2: to talk to you. Cody says he's still in his
34:38
Speaker 2: pilgrimage to apologize to all three of them, and then
34:42
Speaker 2: Janelle at her apologies like why now is this for real?
34:46
Speaker 1: Right?
34:47
Speaker 2: And that's it?
34:49
Speaker 1: That was it. Not a whole lot going on. Not
34:54
Speaker 1: very much entered into the record. That was interesting in
34:58
Speaker 1: the least.
35:00
Speaker 2: And it's just if this really continues after this season,
35:04
Speaker 2: I mean, what is there? And Mary should have a
35:08
Speaker 2: boyfriend at that point, Yes, Janelle should either have a
35:11
Speaker 2: boyfriend or be doing something interesting with the farm.
35:16
Speaker 1: I'd love to see the documentation of her building her house,
35:19
Speaker 1: like how she picked the plans and the appointments, and
35:23
Speaker 1: like how she's going to decorate it. Like I'm totally
35:25
Speaker 1: into that. I would you know, I'm mildly interested in
35:29
Speaker 1: the development of Tita Farms and if that's going to happen,
35:32
Speaker 1: And you know, I would really love to know more
35:34
Speaker 1: about Maddie's life and Caleb. I know he's got some
35:37
Speaker 1: health issues and there's just probably so much that she's
35:40
Speaker 1: dealing with emotionally, Like I'd love to get into some
35:43
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Like there's a lot there that they
35:46
Speaker 1: could mine for really great content. You just have a
35:49
Speaker 1: vote of no confidence with this particular production team because
35:53
Speaker 1: why should they change. It's been working for them. The
35:56
Speaker 1: people aren't going away. We're still watching, yeah, every but
35:59
Speaker 1: they don't understand like you could have twice as many
36:00
Speaker 1: people watching if there was a reckoning. As I said previously,
36:06
Speaker 1: I agree, Well, is there anything else that we should
36:10
Speaker 1: say to these beautiful raccoons before we get up on
36:13
Speaker 1: out of here into the after party? Bitches?
36:16
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Speaker 1: We will be back later this week to talk the finale.
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Speaker 1: See some finale of Seeking Sister Wives, so make sure
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Speaker 1: to come back for that. And also we do want
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Speaker 1: to acknowledge that some of you have called in on
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Speaker 1: our speak Pipe and left some messages about Cody Brown
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Speaker 1: at all, and we haven't played them, but we're going
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Speaker 1: to start playing them next week, So get your calls in,
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Speaker 1: get your messages in. What are your hot takes? What
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Speaker 1: do you guys think of this apology tour? What do
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Speaker 1: you think about Jane. I actually really want to hear
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Speaker 1: from you guys, Yes, what you think about and now
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Speaker 1: colluding potentially with Cody Brown to maybe steal coyote pass
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Speaker 1: out from under Mary? Do you think that was a thing?
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Speaker 1: What do we think about Mary? What do you think
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Speaker 1: about Christine? We want to hear it. All you have
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Speaker 1: to do is go to Speakpipe dot com slash Reality
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Speaker 1: off and we're going to start playing some of those
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Speaker 1: and just having little raccoon conversations about sister wives, we'd
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Speaker 1: love to hear from you. Okay, so until we're back
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Speaker 1: later this week, please do not forget that we have
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Speaker 1: nothing but love for.
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Speaker 2: You and peace. O night