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Joba and the Mouth 2-23-26 · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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If it is the worldwide sports radio network for the.
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First time in 46 years the United States men's hockey team
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are gold medal winners in what was one of the best hockey games
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many have seen in a very long time.
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Canada and the US were knotted at 1 heading into overtime when
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Devils forward Jack Hughes scored the golden goal in three
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on three action, sending hero goalie Connor Hellebach, head
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coach Mike Sullivan and the Americans home with the top
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prize for the first time since Herb Brooks led the fabled
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Miracle on Ice 1980 hockey team to defeat the invincible USSR
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and then Sweden. In something that happened so
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long ago, the Cold War was the biggest worry of the day and
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kids were introduced to a brand new toy, the Rubik's Cube.
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We will break down all the action, excitement and reactions
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to America being on top of the hockey world once again.
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And on Saturday, the top 4 seeds in the country faced off in a
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possible preview of future March Madness matchups as Duke and
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Arizona knocked off the, at the time, higher seeded Michigan and
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Houston in action. That did not disappoint.
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Duke and freshman sensation Cameron Boozer regained the
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number one rank in all of basketball, followed by the now
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#2 Arizona Wildcats and fellow freshman phenom Braden Buries.
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As the regular season winds down.
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And before we have a six pack with Speedy and recap the rest
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of the 2026 Winter Olympics and check in on the start of this
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year's NFL Combine, we will take a look at the big debate that is
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heating up at the top of the NBA Draft between polarizing
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prospect Darren Peterson and BYU's freshman sensation AJ
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Debansa. On another in your face, Edge of
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the Sea Blizzard beating Live Monday Night edition of Jabba.
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And the man give him a significant.
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You're going to have a ton of money to spend.
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Why not? Putting in one of the top.
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Three offensive players in the league.
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We're going to be. Looking at Aaron George and
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saying that he can't. Win the big game, Michael
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Jordan. Said I played 82 games.
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You don't see the fun doing that A.
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Game where you got to go? Before.
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I told you giant things and save more Barkley.
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At this one of those Christmas days as
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we sing, I don't know what we sing.
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It's not Christmas time, it's February going into March.
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It's February 23rd and who would have thought we would have a
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Blizzard going into tonight's show on Jabba and the Mouth.
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My name is Errol Marx and my Co host tonight is Speedy PD
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executive producer. You heard him as Mr. Aaron Fish
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Fishman. No Tommy poops tonight as the
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snow has caved them in over there in Bayshore, Long Island.
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So no Tommy poops on the back end, Mr. NR hour, Mr. Nathan,
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Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it was a snowy day, snowy night,
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snowy Sunday into Monday. It stopped.
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Everybody said it was going to stop about 6:00 PM, but it
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stopped. Really at here, especially here
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in Long Island, about 1:00 PM 1/30, we had to clean up.
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I would say we got about 15 inches.
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It was brutal. And and we've had a compiled of
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snow over the last couple of weeks.
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We had a snowstorm, what was it, 2 1/2 three weeks ago and now we
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had this one and we might have more snow coming on the way
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sometime later this week into next week.
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So it's been a crazy, crazy February.
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I would have never thought that we would get this much.
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So we haven't had this much snow in about 5 years.
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And we've had probably the coldest winter month in January.
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It was so cold. It was at one point in the, you
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know, in their teens and, and at one point it was in the, it was
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like 5-6 degrees. So, and it was out of -3 one of
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the days as well in the month of January.
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So I would have never thought we would have this kind of cold and
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this kind of snow in, you know, in, in February, in the new
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year. So 2026 is on to a great one,
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ladies and gentlemen, a cold one.
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I like the cold. But when it gets to this point,
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I, I don't know if I like this weather.
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It's a little overboard when you, when you're practically
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walking in the snow and it's up to your waist.
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That's how bad it is over here. And I'm not small.
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I know Jabba likes to say that I'm such a small guy, but I'm
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5/10 and 1/4. I have to add that quarter
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because it gives me a little bit more size.
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But the emphasis here is we've had a lot of snow over the last
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couple of weeks. Hopefully going into March it it
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probably gets a little bit warmer, spring time's around the
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corner and we might see no more of it.
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But I think March could be more of a hazard when it comes to
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snow because over the last couple of years, especially here
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in New York, it's the coldest in March.
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Unless we got the cold front in January and now we're moving to
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the snowy part in February and then in the warmer part in,
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well, springtime March. So we'll see.
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I, I, I don't know. I don't know what to expect with
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the weather. I know a lot of people on the
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East Coast were slammed, especially in the city.
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And what's crazy about the snow when it hits the city?
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I'm talking about Queens, Brooklyn and Manhattan.
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You can't put the snow anywhere. There's nowhere to put the snow.
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It's not like it's the suburbs. And you can push it on
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somebody's lawn. There is no lawn in Queens.
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There is no lawn in Manhattan. So where are you putting it?
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And, and everybody parks their cars on the street.
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There's nowhere to park on the streets now.
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Now you're definitely going to have to pay for parking.
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So a lot of New Yorkers are not enjoying this weather of snow,
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especially in the city part of New York.
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So it's not good. But hey, we're here.
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We're here to entertain you. If you're locked in your houses
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or you're, I don't know, you're caved in with snow throughout
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the New York market or on the East Coast.
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You can enjoy a lot of takes, hot takes when it comes to
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sports and give you some laughing objectives.
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I don't know, it's something we're going to.
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We'll give you something tonight and maybe throw you guys off in
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a little occupied craziness. I don't know, I I'm occupied
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with this, but there's a lot of craziness that's going to be
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handed to you in this show. Speedy, how are you?
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I, I know it took you forever to get here.
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I did. Because what happened was my
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uncle called me and said that we're having oil delivered
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tomorrow. So I had to go clear a path for
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them in order to get to the back of the house.
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And that delayed me a little bit.
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And then I had to finish them off setting up for the show.
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So I got here. I was basically in a bind, like
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when Tyler used to come and get me and he would always get there
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like 20 minutes before the show. I, like I said, I tried to
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occupy myself before this show because I was wondering where
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Speedy was and Speedy was a little bit late.
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He tells me to put on the computers, put on the monitors,
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put on this, put on that. And I'm like, hold, hold on one
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second. You're asking me to do something
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I never do. And I'm getting ready for the
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show. So I'm trying to put content
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together. I'm trying to figure out how I'm
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going to attack these stories. And, and usually I don't really
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write anything. It's just I embedded in my brain
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And so I'm ready to attack each and every subject, each and
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every content story, content story that we have posted up and
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ready to go as it's posted before the show.
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So I'm telling you, ladies and gentlemen, it's going to be
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crazy one. And like I said, I had to plow
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or help my landlord plow us out and it was ridiculous.
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I actually plowed Sunday night cleaning off the stairs because
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I live downstairs and there's like 12 stairs.
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So I, there was a lot of snow last night and I was like, I'm
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going to clean so we won't have it compacted tomorrow.
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And then I woke up and I went outside and it was still
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compacted. So just think if I didn't plow
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the snow or, you know, shovel the snow late last night, it
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would have been even worse to try to get us out, especially
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out from this, you know, this basement apartment.
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So it's horrible. I hate New York, ladies and
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gentlemen, just because of these kind of snowstorms, but we don't
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usually have these anymore. So he can't complain about it.
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He can't cry about it. You just deal with it as New
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York weather is up and it's down.
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I can't stand the summertime around here.
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There's no doubt about it. The humidity, the the heat waves
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that we have, the bugs, the mosquitoes.
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I hate it. Ladies and gentlemen, it's
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absolutely horrible living here in New York in the warm weather.
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I know a lot of people like the beaches, but I don't go to the
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beaches anymore. It's shark infested waters.
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So I, you're not going to see me in the water.
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I used to surf. Now I would never go in the
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water with a surfboard and I the last time I went to a beach was
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polar bearing. What do they call that?
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The polar plunge. The polar plunge, which by the
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way, I never went into the water.
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My, my ankles were in the water. People were jumping in the water
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in the winter time. And every year I, I go to the
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event, I take pictures and I'm there to help host the event
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here in Long Island, New York. And people are nuts.
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They go into the water when it's like minus, minus degree water
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as far as, as far as going in the water and it's snowing.
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Sometimes there's snow on the beaches and people are running
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and, and, and swimming in the water.
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I, I think they're nuts, but that's just not me.
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So I stay away from the polar plunge.
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I'm not plunging into any water, but ankles were probably the
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furthest I've ever been at the beach in the last 10 years of
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the summer, the winter, whatever.
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So I'm not a beach guy, ladies and gentlemen.
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I stay away from the beaches. And when I go to Florida and
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everybody says, oh, you don't go to the beaches in Florida, but I
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don't go to the beaches here in Long Island.
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So why would I be going in Florida?
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So I'm not a Florida guy. I'm not a Florida guy.
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I'm not a Floridian. As they, they say, I stay the
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hell away from the beaches in Florida.
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I like the pools, but I'm even afraid, I'm even afraid in the
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summertime, especially in Florida to go in a pool because
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hey, there could be a crocodile and alligator in there.
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So I, I get worried that if I jump in the water, and that's
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the crazy thing. When I was a kid, especially
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here in Long Island, I used to think that there were crocodiles
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and alligators here. So I would always, before I went
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into the pool, I would look in the water and make sure there's
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nothing in there. And now if I go to a pool in
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Florida, I'm always looking in the water before I jump in
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because I'm afraid there's an alligator on the bottom of
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bottom of the, you know, the 10 foot pool or there's an
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alligator. So alligator, crocodile,
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whatever that is. But so I stay the hell away from
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that as well. So I'm, I'm not a swimmer
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either, even though I could swim.
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I don't go into pools unless it's at the LA Fitness or
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something of that magnitude because I don't want to deal
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with the the the reptiles, as we all say.
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At 8:30, we'll be talking to former Seahawks and Cowboy
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safety Ken the Hammer. Hamlin will be joining us for
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the first time. Shout out to Nathan for hooking
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that up. So that'll be fun.
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But we got a lot to get into. And one of the big stories is if
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you're AUSA hockey fan or if you're just a United States fan,
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what happened on Sunday was something that you'll never
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forget. Never forget.
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On Sunday morning, Team USA Hockey won their first gold
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medal since the historic Miracle on Ice 1980s team with a 21
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overtime victory over Canada. US goalie Connor Hellebach saved
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an incredible 41 out of 42 shots, the most total saves ever
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in a gold medal game. Canada outshot the United States
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42 to 28 and dominated total puck possession by almost 4
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minutes in the second and third period.
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Minnesota Wild winger Matt Baldy open the scoring 6 minutes into
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the contest, putting the US up one to nothing assisted assisted
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by team captain Austin Matthews and Baldy's new Wild teammate
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Quinn Hewes. Quinn Ewes had eight points,
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including a point in every game of the Olympics, tied for the
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most ever by a defenseman. Quinn's brother Jack, however,
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was the story with the golden goal assisted by Blue Jackets
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defenseman Zach Warinsky in the Wild in a Wild three on three
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overtime period after losing teeth and getting blasted by a
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high stick late in the game, Game used did not appear to miss
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a shift After winning the gold medal.
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Team USA did an amazing tribute to Johnny and Matthew Goudreau,
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honoring him by having Johnny's jersey in front of the gold
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medal ceremony photo and celebrating it with the Goudreau
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kids on the ice with the team for what goes down as the
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greatest US accomplishment in hockey in 1/2 a century.
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When you think about Jonny Goudreau, first of all, and his
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brother, it's it's horrible to think about what happened to
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them the night before they were supposed to be at their sister's
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wedding. They they were riding their
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bikes and a drunk driver hit them and killed them instantly.
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Jonny Goudreau is one of the best American scorers we have
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seen in the last 15 years. This guy was the face of New
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Jersey and Philadelphia hockey. He stood for a lot.
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He really did. And you can see it after the
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United States won the gold medal, as you see the Kashuk
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brothers, Matthew Brady and a bunch of the players holding his
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jersey and pretty much celebrating his life.
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The Cujo family, his father and his mother were there in the
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audience. His kids were there.
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His wife was there as they were invited to come and celebrate.
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Now, nobody knew that Team USA was going to win the gold.
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I don't think Team USA knew they were going to win the gold.
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And Canada was the heavy favorites going into the game.
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There was no question with the talent that they have over there
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with Connor McDavid, who's arguably the greatest hockey
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player of this time, he has been as dominant as a player we've
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seen. You have McKinnon, who's one of
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the best hockey players, not only for Colorado in the NHL,
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Mccarr, who you can say is the best defenseman in all of
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hockey. The talent over there in Canada,
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you would say out of all the players playing on that Canadian
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team, probably the majority of them are going to be Hall of
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Farmers. That's how good they are.
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And to me, Team USA had the advantage going into the game
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was goaltending and you could say whatever you want.
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Connor Hollabock has not been very good in the big game over
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the years going into the playoffs with the Winnipeg Jets.
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He has not looked good. He has not looked good.
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Winnipeg was one of the best teams in the NHL 2-3 years ago
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and they choked early in the playoffs.
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A lot of people thought, including yours truly, thought
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they were going to make a run, maybe go to Stanley Cup finals
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and they fell very short and that was because Conor Hollabock
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did not show up in those games. This is a guy last year that won
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goaltender of the year when's won the Venzina Trophy.
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On the Hart Trophy too. And the Hart Trophy.
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He was the best player in the NHL last year and he was a
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goalie and going in this tournament they needed Connor to
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show up because he didn't show up in the fall. 4 Nations.
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They play Team Canada in the finals and Hollabuck gave up a
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really bad goal against Connor McDavid at the end of the game,
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which sealed the deal for Team Canada in the Four Nations and I
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believe the Team USA after losing against Canada really.
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And I'll I'll give a shout out to Bill Garin, who were him and
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Beezer. John Van Beezburg has been
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developing these young superstars like Jack Hughes and
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Boldy, all these guys that have been coming up in in United
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States hockey and junior hockey, All these guys have slowly
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developed on it. You have to help.
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You have to give a shout out to John Van Beezbrook because he's
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been a part of that, and Bill Garin, who if you don't know
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Bill Garrett, played for Team USA Hockey, played for the New
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Jersey Devils. This is a guy that was a great
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United States hockey player. Was he an elite player?
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No, but he was a guy that knew how to put the puck in the net.
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So when the USA gave him the opportunity to run this team and
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build this team for this year's 2026 Olympic hockey team, you
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knew that he had to put speed on this team.
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You knew how that he had to put guys that have heart.
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And when you look at the two brothers in the Kuchuk brothers
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and Brady and Matthew and Jack and Quinn, these guys slowly but
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surely have developed. I've been to three out of the
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four guys draft classes. I interviewed all three.
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I've interviewed Brady Kuchuk, Jack Hughes and Quinn Hughes.
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I met them both and I got a chance to see these guys in.
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It was in different drafts where these guys really started to
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develop their names and remember, they all come and now
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the use brothers. Their father never played in the
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NHL, but he's coached in the AHL.
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He's coached for many, many years.
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They're from Orlando. They're from Florida.
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You would think that how does hockey players get developed in
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Orlando? How do they get developed in
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Florida? Well, we can ask our friend
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Goody that that question because hockey's grown all over the
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country, especially here in Long Island.
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McEvoy, Charlie McEvoy, who's a Long Island native, Fox, who's a
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Long Island native who was not a part of this team but was a part
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of the Four Nations team. The development of United States
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hockey has changed as far as competition is concerned.
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When you think about the Russian, the Soviet Union in the
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past, but the Russian team who did not compete in this
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tournament this year because of what's going on overseas with
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Ukraine. And the Canadians who have been
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as dominant of a team and as as dominant as a program that any
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program in professional sports, especially hockey.
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When you think of the fact of Team Canada going into this
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game, everybody and you look at the betting lines, you go look
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at Vegas, everybody had Canada winning this game.
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Nobody, I don't even think Team USA believed until after the
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third period going into overtime they can win this game.
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And you look at guys like Jack Hughes, who had his teeth
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knocked out, cracked teeth in the third period.
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The Knicks, I mean the Knicks, the United States team had an
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opportunity have a 4 minute power play, couldn't capitalize
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on it. I think it was Peterson that
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knocked his teeth out. And everybody thought, hey,
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this, this might not, this might not happen.
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The United States might not get a chance to close out the way
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They had a chance to close out in the third period like they
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did with the Jack Hughes penalty.
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And then Jack Hughes had his own penalty in the third period,
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which could have cost Team USA because it ended a 4 minute
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power play, but Canada didn't. They didn't capitalize on that
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either and it was back and forth.
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Team USA won the first period, absolutely dominated, and then
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after that it was really team candidate and second and third
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period. Cooper is one of the best
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coaches in the NHL and Sullivan right there with them.
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Two respectable coaches, two guys that respect each other,
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two guys that have been a part of their team and their nation's
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colors for the last couple of years.
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Sullivan's been running Team USA Hockey as the coach and Cooper's
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been right behind the bench for a significant amount of time.
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But you saw it at Brady Kuchuk during the game and he had a, he
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had a mic on him saying keep fighting guys, keep fighting,
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keep working, keep working. Things will happen, things will
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happen. We're winning this, we're
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winning this. And you saw it you, it's the
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confidence in some of these players.
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And I like I'm, I'm not a big fan of the Kuchuk brothers as
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anybody that listens to the show.
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I'm not a fan of Keith. I met Keith Kuchuk.
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I was there when the Saint Louis Blues won the Stanley Cup.
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He wasn't really respectable, especially didn't give me any
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respect when we were on the ice. When I wanted to interview him
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after the Blues, he works with the Blues.
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Al McGuinness gave me the opportunity to ask him a couple
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of questions, Brett Hall, Chris Pronger.
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But Keith Kuchuk just seemed like he is a real big, you know
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what, I'm not going to say it on live radio.
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I don't want to scare any kids away, but you know what I mean.
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When Brady and Matthew, I've, I've heard stories.
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I, I was there when Brady got drafted.
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So Matthew was there, Keith was there, they were taking pictures
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and they just, Brady was a little bit more nicer than
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Matthew, But you can tell. You can tell they have a little
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bit of sting to them. You can tell that their father
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built them up to be tough and they were the tough team.
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They were a tough team because of these two guys.
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They would go out there if somebody was getting hit behind
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the behind the net of the opposing team or if the goalie
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got hit, Connor Hollabook got hit or Swayman got hit, what
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would happen? You see the Kachuck brothers
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start the fights and end the fights.
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It didn't matter if it was against Slovakia or any of the
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other teams that they played against.
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This team played as a team. They didn't lose 1 game in this
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tournament. They didn't lose 1.
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They absolutely dominated. And I'll, I'll say this,
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everybody says, what do you mean they dominated?
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There were games they could have lost the game before, they could
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have lost against Sweden, They could have lost against some of
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these games. How many games went to overtime?
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But you see, that's competitive hockey.
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And when you have a heart to win, you're going to find a way
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to get the game, you know, in your favor, you get the get the
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goal and end that game. And that's what they did.
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Austin Matthews, I don't know if he's so much of A captain, but
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he's had an offseason. Austin Matthews has not been the
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same Austin Matthews he's been with the Maple Leafs.
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This guy was is been the elite goal scorer for Team USA Hockey
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for a very long time. But going into this tournament,
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he really has had a bad season. He really has but Team USA and
24:58
and maybe this will give him a little bit of boost, winning a
25:01
gold medal and really showing that it meant something in 1980.
25:09
The Miracle on Ice, I wasn't alive for that.
25:12
I was born in 82. I never got a chance to
25:14
experience it, but we all know what Mike Arizione was.
25:20
We all know what Craig, who Craig was and and we all know
25:23
what some of these players, Johnson was, Herb Brooks, what
25:27
he stood for, for Team USA Hockey.
25:30
If you ever seen the documentaries, there's a
25:33
documentary right now on Netflix, Miracle.
25:37
You seen the movies with Kurt Russell playing Herb Brooks.
25:43
It was an amazing story. And I don't know if 2026 could
25:47
ever be matched to the 1980 Olympic team.
25:51
I don't know if it could ever be that way.
25:53
But think about this. It took 46 years for Team USA to
26:00
win another gold. 46 years. Think about that.
26:06
The last time they experienced hoisting that flag in the
26:11
national anthem was 1980. For American men's hockey and
26:19
everything that you look at what they stand for and all the
26:22
players. Let's go.
26:23
And we we spoke about Quinton Hughes, what he did and how
26:28
what, what this team did as far as completed players.
26:32
Brady Kashuk had five points throughout the tournament in six
26:36
games, three goals and two assists.
26:39
Zach Warinsky, six games, six points.
26:44
Jack Aiko, I think is one of the most important players on this
26:48
roster. In six games had six points, two
26:51
goals and four assists. One of the best in all of
26:54
hockey. JT Miller, Ranger fans, even
26:58
though he played six games and had no point, he played a big
27:01
part of their checking and a really playing the aggressive
27:06
type of game that Team USA wanted to play.
27:08
Matt Boldy scoring the first goal of of the championship
27:13
game. He had four points.
27:16
This young kid is going to be a part of Team USA Hockey for
27:19
many, many years. Brock Faber, Six games, two
27:23
points, +7 all these players. Vincent Trochek, who's probably
27:29
going to be traded sometime before the trade deadline for
27:32
the New York Rangers, played a big part as far as far as the
27:36
four checking is concerned for Team USA, which AT Miller.
27:41
Dylan Larkin big time when it comes to face offs and he had a
27:46
big part of the speed of this team and the defensive side of
27:50
the puck. Brock Nelson by the way, was
27:52
sensational throughout the tournament too.
27:54
I, I know Islander fans don't want to hear it, but Brock
27:57
Nelson was a big part of Team USA success, especially as far
28:01
as the four checking is concerned.
28:02
When Bill Garin put this team together, he didn't put the most
28:07
athletic guys on the team. He put the guys that fit this
28:12
roster. The aggression, the aggressive
28:16
way that Team USA wanted to play in this tournament.
28:19
They didn't compare to some of the Canadian players as far as
28:23
talent is concerned on the ice. But there was one position that
28:28
everybody knew they were going to be better than Canada was,
28:33
and that was the goaltending. And I believe that Team USA had
28:38
the best goaltending in this tournament.
28:41
They had Jeremy Swayman, Boston, Jake Ottinger, Dallas and Connor
28:51
Hellebuck, Winnipeg. These three guys are not only
28:55
some of the best American born goaltenders we've ever had,
29:01
these guys are some of the best in the NHL.
29:05
Top five, top 6. All three of these guys have
29:08
been there and you're you, you're seeing the video right
29:13
now of what Hellerbuck did to another ex New York Islanders,
29:19
Islander Devin Thames stopping him with the shaft of his stick
29:26
in the third period. Actually he was the second
29:29
period, right, I think. That was the third period.
29:31
Third period, one of the best saves in the tournament, if not
29:37
the best save in the tournament if it wasn't for Hellebuck doing
29:43
what he did, stood on his head. Team USA doesn't win this game
29:46
and what Jack Hughes did after getting his teeth knocked, teeth
29:49
knocked out, and played every single shift after that, he
29:52
could have sat out, He could have bitched and moaned and
29:54
cried about it. He got back in the game, he
29:58
skated and he did what he was supposed to do as one of the
30:02
best offensive players that Team USA had on this roster.
30:07
And in overtime, Team USA did something and they caught Canada
30:14
really almost having a 2 on O. They caught him shifting and
30:18
changing, changing lines, and they caught him and the United
30:23
States had a three on one and then it was a two on one.
30:27
Orinsky got it to Jack Hughes and he buried it right behind
30:31
Bennington. Game over match to Team USA and
30:39
what the crowd and there were a lot of Canadian fans there.
30:41
A lot of them. It was half Canada, half
30:44
American. And when Canada and and by the
30:47
way, Makar is one of the best defensive, one of the best
30:51
offensive players in the NHL. When he took that shot and he
30:55
tied the game, he buried it. He buried it.
30:59
It wasn't like Hollabuck couldn't see the puck.
31:02
He just couldn't stop it. Canada is loaded and I think
31:11
they were shocked when Team USA ended in an overtime as fast as
31:14
they did. If it went any further, I think
31:17
Team Canada wins the game and and Team USA had no offensive
31:20
chances really throughout the late 2nd all through the third
31:24
period. Even on that 4 minute power play
31:27
that they had before Jack Hughes who draw the penalty got a
31:32
penalty, they couldn't find any offensive chances, chances
31:39
really throughout the third period.
31:41
Bennington, whenever he did need to make a save, he made a good
31:44
save once or twice in that third period.
31:49
It was really Connor Hollabock standing on his head throughout
31:53
the second and third period. That was the the amazing thought
31:57
and if anybody wants to pin something on why Team USA won
32:01
the gold medal on Sunday morning, it was Connor
32:04
Hollabock. Yeah, you mentioned the
32:05
sustained pressure that Canada had in the second and third
32:08
period. The puck possession stats were
32:10
really big in Canada's favor. The first period was kind of
32:12
even. I think Canada may be slightly
32:14
outplayed in puck possession 1. I think they had two more shots
32:16
on goal, but they dominated that whole stretch in the second and
32:19
third period. And Hellebock made some
32:20
unbelievable saving. Besides the Devon Davis 1, the
32:22
Kachuk breakaway, I think it was Brady in the at the start of the
32:25
third period. He had a tough save on McDavid
32:28
in the second and then McKinnon, I think he had one like just off
32:31
the side of the net or something that he got a piece of.
32:33
So there's a lot of these wide open chances or breakaway
32:35
chances that he was just ready for.
32:37
And how about Charlie McAvoy chomping in front of the net and
32:41
stopping a puck from going? In that one, yeah, Charlie
32:43
McAvoy has always been one of the more alert defense.
32:45
When you saw the US get very physical in front of the net
32:47
one, they had to be too, which is something that, well, if you
32:49
look at Bill Guerin, like with his Minnesota Wild team, this is
32:52
something that would have been questioned with Hugh's another
32:54
one like the trade for and he's kind of undersized, but he
32:56
played tough. When he they had Speedy, they
32:58
had many opportunities to bury the puck behind Hellerbuck.
33:01
They had an open net. McKinnon had an open net and
33:03
missed it. Missed wide.
33:04
Yeah, missed it. It was wide.
33:06
Open for him to put it in and he couldn't find the net and this
33:10
guy is one of the best goal scorers in the NHL.
33:12
Colorado who arguably is the best team right now in all of
33:15
the National Hockey League. He couldn't and he's the best
33:17
player, him and Makar, you can argue with the two best players
33:21
on that roster and it's a loaded roster and he's probably the
33:26
best offensive option they have and couldn't bury the.
33:28
Puck, he was the best offensive like he should probably Hella
33:31
Buck didn't have the year he had.
33:32
He was going to win the heart trophy in the head last year.
33:34
He was the best offensive player in the league last year during
33:37
the regular season. And yeah, they just had a lot of
33:39
chances they couldn't and they had so many good passes.
33:41
They made the right plays a lot of the time.
33:43
It just was hard for them to do that.
33:44
And eventually the US was going to break even because the US had
33:47
enough transition opportunities. I think in the first period they
33:50
even some. They dominated the first.
33:52
Period. Yeah, I would say like even in
33:53
the like middle of the third period, the US had enough
33:55
transition opportunities where they could have done at Bington
33:58
and a nice save on Brock Nelson that you mentioned that in the
34:01
third period. And I think they because of that
34:04
they had enough confidence in their transition game, their
34:06
passing ability that they had. And I agree with you, if it went
34:09
longer in overtime, that would definitely benefited Canada
34:12
because of the way Canada was possessing the puck for most of.
34:14
That and the way Connor McDavid was skating really in the third
34:17
period, he was unstoppable and you can see he could skate
34:21
circles around half those players on the ice, including
34:24
his own players. He is that good of a player.
34:26
Every time he touched the puck, my, I started like hoping that
34:30
somebody was going to take the puck away from him because I, I
34:32
started my everything. I was sweating every time he
34:35
touched the puck every and he was out there almost every
34:38
single shift, every other shift. Conor McDavid was out there.
34:41
It was amazing how much stamp there this guy has and the
34:44
skating ability he has when it comes to that stamina and, and,
34:48
and really going up and down an Olympic ice.
34:51
Remember, the Olympic ice is bigger than the NHL ice.
34:53
Right. And that's where I think you
34:54
mentioned too with the development systems when you
34:56
talk about the any or the the Olympics changing the rules
34:59
backward, the NHL players could participate because in the last
35:01
three years they were not able to that automatically jump
35:04
starts the development system for the US like you say with Van
35:07
Beesbrook and Garen there, did you have to change that
35:09
philosophy to make it work? And Canada to the same kind of
35:12
thing. Now, Canada didn't have the
35:13
obviously the same level of the goaltending, but they had the
35:16
same level of really everything else, fast skating, great play
35:19
making type guys where I think a lot of those other European
35:21
nations were kind of ahead because a lot of those NHL
35:24
players played with some of the amateur players where you saw
35:27
Russia when well Russell, IOC, they weren't allowed to use
35:31
their flag. When the last one in 2022, you
35:33
saw Sweden win some other ones as well because I think they had
35:36
that national chemistry where I don't know if the US had those
35:39
types of things with those younger players.
35:40
The same kind of thing with Canada.
35:41
Here's another thing, when I got a chance to interview John Van
35:45
Beesbrook years ago in Dallas and I was working the media and
35:48
he I was one of very few people he would talk to and speak to.
35:52
One of the reasons why is he's one of my favorite players, one
35:55
of my favorite athletes growing up.
35:56
So I got a chance to to interview him right by the
36:00
rafters, right behind the rafters.
36:02
And it was crazy because I asked him, what could you tell me a
36:05
little bit about Team USA hockey?
36:07
Who do we look forward to seeing up and coming stars in the NHL
36:11
in the future? And this was years ago.
36:13
And he said the Chuck the Chuck brothers are definitely there.
36:16
But he said the you brothers. And that was that was when Quinn
36:19
you was was drafted. And I remember that draft.
36:22
It wasn't when obviously Jack used and he said his brother
36:25
Jack is going to be one of the best young offensive players the
36:28
United States has ever had. Watch out for this kid.
36:31
This kid is going to be that type of player.
36:33
And I didn't know who he was until he was drafted.
36:36
And everybody said, look at his size.
36:38
Is his size going to work in the NHL?
36:40
That's what they said. Is it going to work?
36:42
Is it going to be this or is it going to be that?
36:44
Well, ladies and gentlemen, his size does not matter.
36:47
It's his speed is his leg strength.
36:49
And when I get a chance to see him, when he was drafted at #1
36:52
in Capoco at the, and the Ranger fans wanted Jack Hughes.
36:56
I remember that before that everybody thought that the
37:00
Rangers were going to, you know, somehow trade up and, and at #2
37:05
to get to #1 there was no way the New Jersey I won the Devils
37:07
were doing were going to trade with the Rangers.
37:10
When Jack Hughes was signed and, and, and obviously brought in
37:13
and drafted by the New Jersey Devils, I looked at him and I'm
37:16
like, man, this guy's legs are like tree trunks.
37:19
When I saw him, he he's not the tallest guy guy, he's like 5-10
37:23
at best. I was a little bit taller than
37:25
him, so I would say he was a little bit under 510, but on
37:29
skates he's about 6 foot or 511. But what I like about this kid
37:34
is he's nice, he's kind. He was very good to the media,
37:38
very uplifting, very kind and collective, gave you all the
37:42
answers you wanted from a young superstar United States player.
37:46
When Brady was drafted, Brady didn't say much to the media.
37:50
As a matter of fact, his father spoke for him and so did
37:52
Matthew. So it wasn't like Brady went out
37:55
there and opened his mouth. Now, I'm not saying Brady Kuchak
37:58
is anything like his father in Matthew.
38:00
I think Matthew is a little bit more abrupt, a little bit less
38:04
kind to the media than Brady is. I think Brady I think speaks a
38:08
little bit more formal and understands what the media is
38:12
going to do for him if he ever wants to leave Ottawa, which
38:15
could be very soon. But I, I think that what the
38:20
Chuck brothers bring to the game, the United States hockey
38:23
is aggressive play. That's what you want.
38:26
You want guys that are going to go up, they're going to slam you
38:28
on the boards, they're going to four check you, they're going to
38:31
dominate you behind the net and they're going to make sure you
38:33
feel them every time they hit you.
38:35
And that's what Brady does. And Brady, I think he's a little
38:38
bit different than Matthew because offensively the guy has
38:42
a gift. When he gets a puck in on his
38:44
Dick, he could put it right behind the net, he could put it
38:46
right right behind the goal very quickly.
38:49
He's got unbelievable hands. Matthew, he's got good hands.
38:52
He's talented. He's got the ability to do what
38:55
Brady can do, but he doesn't do it with ease like Brady can do
38:58
it. Brady makes it look much easier
39:01
than Matthew does. And you can see the difference
39:04
in the style of game that both these guys play.
39:06
And I, I, I say the same thing about Quinn Hughes.
39:09
Quinn Hughes was the best defenseman throughout this
39:12
tournament, even better then Makar he was that good.
39:17
When you talk about USA defenseman, Brian Leach comes to
39:22
mind, Brian Leach, Phil Housley comes to mind.
39:26
These guys are some of the greatest American born
39:29
defenseman of all time for Team USA Hockey.
39:32
And remember NHL players in the past times in the the late or
39:37
early 90s did not play in the Olympics.
39:40
It took really the mid 90s or late 90s for that to transition.
39:44
After the World Cup. It was different and I remember
39:48
the World Cup because I think it was 9596 when Team USA beat Team
39:52
Canada in the world. Cup, I would imagine there's a
39:54
lot of the like, but the just the changes in Russia and like
39:56
everything. Mike Richter was the goaltender.
39:58
The starting goaltender was John Van Beesbruck and Tom Barrasso,
40:01
a part of a part of those Team USA teams.
40:04
Some of the greatest goal tenders of the 90s.
40:06
Yeah, I was. Going to imagine a lot of those
40:08
of Russian players and even the even the Swedish and Fenders,
40:10
some of them like defected a lot of the time right after the Cold
40:13
War. So I would imagine there was a
40:14
lot of like roster turnover were both those teams big window US
40:17
and Canada at that time. I think the difference right now
40:20
when you see United States hockey is we're more grittier
40:25
and there's more opportunity to build young superstars in the
40:30
United States junior hockey divisions.
40:33
If you look at some of the junior hockey teams around the
40:37
country and some of the places that they are building, some of
40:40
the best young United States hockey players, including here
40:42
in Long Island, New York, which there's been like 7 or 8 NHL
40:48
players that have been drafted here in the last 10 years.
40:50
And I would say about six of them have become stars in the
40:53
NHL. It says a lot about the
40:56
development here in New York. Thank Mark Messier, thank some
40:59
of the Adam Graves and some of the hockey players, Darius
41:02
Kasparidis and Vladimir Molikoff guys, Benoit Hogue and and some
41:07
of those guys that have helped developed young stars and young
41:11
players here at the NHL level. So it's been it's been crazy.
41:16
And also look at the guys, like look at Hagen, who was just
41:21
drafted out of the draft from the Boston Bruins, Young
41:24
superstar from Comac, kids going to be a star, going to be a
41:28
stud, probably play for Team USA in the very near future.
41:32
It's bright. Not just here in New York,
41:34
throughout the East and West Coast.
41:35
There are a lot of great hockey players coming from the West
41:38
Side. Yes, LA, Sacramento, San
41:41
Francisco, there are there. There's just so much development
41:45
here and hockey's become such a big sport.
41:47
And you, everybody boos Gary Bettman.
41:49
Everybody boos the guy. But here's the thing.
41:51
Gary Bettman has been the best commissioner in all of the big
41:56
sports here in America. I'm talking about better than
41:59
Adam Silver and Rob Manfred and Roger Goodell.
42:01
Yes, all these guys have brought in money for their respectable
42:05
leagues. But guess what?
42:06
Gary Bettman's been there the longest.
42:08
And Gary Bettman has not changed his way.
42:11
He didn't. He didn't do anything.
42:13
As a matter of fact, he did. The one thing that a lot of
42:15
these commissioners will not do, including the NFL, is when they
42:19
have these lottery drafts now they're doing it.
42:21
They're picking the Bulls in front of the media, in front of
42:25
the fans, showing them that nobody is cheating as the New
42:29
York Islanders for the first time ever, right in front of the
42:33
fans, right in front of everybody.
42:34
They picked the ball and it fell their way.
42:37
And they got Matthew Schaefer, which could change their
42:40
organization for many, many years to come.
42:42
So Gary Bettman has done something that a lot of these
42:45
commissioners don't have the balls to do.
42:47
Adam Silver and your goofy brain take notes.
42:49
Well, you could. I agree.
42:51
As far as Bettman goes, he's been there forever.
42:53
Bettman's. Have you ever met him?
42:55
He's like a really tiny guy. I did meet Gary.
42:58
But hey, you know what, he does a great job for the for the
43:00
league. He has for a very long time.
43:02
You mentioned the West Coast. It's real easy to be a fan if
43:06
you're on the West Coast in San Jose these days because Macklin
43:09
Celebrini outside of Conor McDavid just jumped off the
43:12
screen the entire time he was on the ice.
43:14
I, I was, I don't know if I was more scared of him or I mean,
43:17
obviously McDavid. I mean, McDavid is just crazy.
43:20
He's so fast and so powerful how he skates like even if he like
43:23
doesn't get a good like dump into the zone, he's always able
43:27
to back check and catch back up like he's always is because he's
43:31
so fast and has such a like immediate turn back.
43:34
Like he's a two way player and then he's unfairly good on the
43:37
offensive side. Celebrating his maybe not as
43:39
good two way just yet, but he looks like he is just lightning
43:43
out there. It is sick what he's doing
43:45
McKinnon, my God, he had a wide open net arrow.
43:49
He's sitting there with the puck on his this just sitting there
43:52
like doorstep. They they had the game and US,
43:56
you know, look, makes me happy as a Ranger fan to know that the
43:59
old Ranger theory of hey, just get a goalie to stand on their
44:01
head and, you know, have some good offensive plays and maybe
44:05
we'll tic tac toe it into the net and we'll be great, you
44:08
know, and. Fisher saying the Rangers should
44:10
petition for single elimination NHL playoffs because that's all
44:12
they want to lobby for. Look it, it works.
44:14
It worked in this one for them. Mike Sullivan was there.
44:17
He coached him on the way to do it.
44:19
JT Miller now has gold medal experience as a captain of the
44:22
Rangers. I thought him and Trocheck
44:25
played well. Trocheck was their face off guy.
44:28
They brought him in in overtime and then immediately told his
44:30
ass to get off the ice to send in Jack Hughes.
44:32
I think. I think he was the one who got
44:34
off for Hughes. How about how about every time
44:37
Bo Horvat was out there for Team Canada, he won every single face
44:40
off, Every single face off. He was out for the most
44:43
important face offs, including Macar's goal.
44:46
He won that face off, which practically gave Macar that
44:49
open, open shot. So I'm going to tell you this Bo
44:53
Horvat, I mean, was an absolute steal by Lou Lamorello.
44:55
And everybody was questioning what Lou Lamorello did and then
44:58
giving Bo Horvat that contract. He was as important to Team
45:02
Canada as any player. Connor McDavid, Macar McKinnon,
45:06
any one of those guys, even Celebrini.
45:08
I mean, and Celebrina was to me throughout the tournament as
45:12
good as Connor McDavid, and that's why they were playing on
45:14
the same line. Could you imagine Connor McDavid
45:17
and Celebrini playing on the same team on the same line?
45:20
And how about dry sidle, Celebrini, Dry sidle and Connor
45:24
McDavid on one line? How scary would that be?
45:28
How scary would that? End.
45:30
You got to give America some love, though.
45:32
They were able to stop that onslaught.
45:34
It shouldn't have been possible. Like you were saying it earlier,
45:36
Errol, I asked AI, they said 15 to 20 future Hall of farmers in
45:40
this game. And I think more than half of
45:43
them were on Canada's side. I mean, you can just go through
45:46
some of the names here, you know, just obvious names right
45:49
off the bat. I mean, Sidney Crosby didn't
45:51
play. Now I don't know if that would
45:53
have made the difference or not I think.
45:55
So I think it would have Sidney Crosby has killed Team USA.
45:59
Even think about how many times did Sidney Crosby put the puck
46:03
in the net against Team USA. Even in the games that you
46:06
would, you would point out where he wasn't playing as well as
46:09
some of the other players on the roster.
46:11
He's scary in the big game. Sid the kid always finds a way
46:14
to bury the puck and stick it right to Team USA.
46:17
So thank God he didn't play in the game.
46:19
And I you can see it in his face.
46:20
He wanted. I tend to agree with you, but
46:22
some of the stuff you were hearing from the guys on the the
46:25
broadcast said this was like the fastest game they've ever seen
46:28
in their lives. Like just the skating on this
46:31
level with like the types of, you know, young athletes that
46:33
are skating might have been pretty hard for an older guy to
46:36
to keep up with them, even if it was Sid the kid.
46:38
But it was just an unbelievable game.
46:41
McDavid, McKinnon, surefire Hall of farmers, Marshan.
46:45
We can't even talk about Marshan.
46:47
Drew Dowdy is on that team. They're all are Famers, every
46:52
one of them. I mean in a car.
46:54
Except Bennington, three on three overtime.
46:56
Three and three on. Bennington three on three
46:58
overtime. Bennington, it's not a Hall of
46:59
Fame. No, he's not a Hall of Famer,
47:01
but he played really good. He was, he was really, I mean,
47:04
Team USA didn't put the puck on it as much as they should have
47:07
after the after the first period.
47:09
I mean, he had a couple of big saves in the second and third
47:12
period, but he really didn't do as much as Hollabuck was doing.
47:16
Well, Hollabuck. Didn't he didn't have to do as
47:17
much as Hellabuck, for sure. You know, like it.
47:20
That was that was definitely, you know, other guys on the.
47:22
Did you hear what Did you hear what Eddie Olczyk was saying
47:25
throughout the game after the if, if Team USA wins this game,
47:29
everybody on Team USA should give Hollabuck their gold medal
47:33
because he's the reason why they won or they're going to win the
47:36
gold medal. After all the saves that he made
47:38
in the third period, even at the end of the second period, some
47:41
of the unbelievable glove saves that he was making and they
47:44
were, they were doing everything against him standing in front
47:47
of. Him Is he a Hall of Famer now
47:49
with this performance and the three?
47:51
He's going, he's going to be a Hall of Famer.
47:53
There's no. Does this make it official
47:56
though right now? I thought he was this moment.
47:58
I, I thought he was a Hall of Famer before this.
48:00
I mean, think about this, Connor Hollebuck and, and they said
48:03
they, they told a story during the game and his, his brother
48:07
plays obviously AHL hockey or OHL hockey.
48:11
His father couldn't afford both of them playing travel hockey.
48:14
So Connor really didn't play for one of those big colleges.
48:18
I think he played for UMass or something like that.
48:20
He didn't play for a top D1 school because he couldn't play
48:24
for those travel teams where he could be seen.
48:26
So whoever gave him a full scholarship, that's where he was
48:29
going. Connor Hollabook is really and
48:32
remember he was a fifth round draft pick too.
48:35
A lot of teams passed on him and look at what he's turned out to
48:38
be. Winnipeg didn't pass on him and
48:40
look at the talented quarter goaltender he is and he's still
48:43
only 32 years old. He's going to play in another
48:46
Olympic game. He is he is definitely going to
48:49
play in another Olympic championship game if Team USA
48:53
makes it that far in the future. I mean, I, it's I thought he was
48:58
a Hall of Famer before this, But what he did in this game and
49:01
what he stood for after the game and what he said to the media
49:06
after the game. And saying that if it wasn't for
49:08
the players in front of me and and doing the things that they
49:10
did behind me, in front of me, I wouldn't had had the game and I
49:14
wouldn't have seen the puck as well as I did in the game to
49:17
stop some of the best players in the world.
49:19
And also Fish, I think the factor in as well the goalie
49:21
longevity today, now you don't see as many that really stretch
49:24
out. So I think the same way we
49:25
talked about a few weeks ago with the NFL likes a lot of
49:28
players retiring early. Like I think the same thing will
49:30
be rewarded with peak performances with goalies too,
49:32
because there's not many in today's era that last as long as
49:35
you're seeing with a lot of these goalie platoons now.
49:37
So him having a great six year peak with those 3 Vasanas
49:40
combined with this now which is an unbelievable GAIL.
49:42
Goldman, you also want a heart too, yes?
49:45
And winning a heart, which hasn't been done for a goalie in
49:47
this era. That's what I'm saying.
49:48
Like, you know, it takes a lot. There's not a lot of I mean,
49:52
it's very hard to draft high on a goalie and be good on it.
49:56
I mean, your your old nemesis from the island.
50:00
There is Di Pietro comes to mind as a top goalie draft pick.
50:04
But you know, you don't, you don't really see it like
50:07
Lungfest with the Rangers was a later draft pick.
50:10
Igor wasn't a high high draft pick either.
50:13
You know, it's just like it. Wasn't either.
50:14
Sarokin was. Off it's it's kind of more of a
50:16
crapshoot I feel like at. That position in the draft, you
50:19
really need the goalie coaching for it.
50:20
Yes, that's why you're not. And it also, it also depends
50:23
where you're coming from. If if obviously Lungquist came
50:25
from the Swedish or organization.
50:27
So Sweden always has good goaltending.
50:30
And then Sarokin and Igor Shastarkin, where do they come
50:33
from? They come from the Russians.
50:35
And some of the best Russian gold, really the best
50:37
goaltenders in all of the world are Russian players.
50:40
Think about it. I mean, so Vasilevsky is another
50:45
goaltender who won at multiple Stanley Cups with the Tampa Bay
50:48
Lightning, so. He's goalie in the decade.
50:50
Yeah. So I mean, if you look at an
50:52
American goaltending has really developed over the years.
50:56
As a matter of fact, I think American goaltending has been
50:59
the best in the last 20 years. I know they don't have those
51:03
guys that really stand out like the Henrik Lundquist of the
51:06
world. But go if you look back at some
51:08
of the great goaltenders that we've seen develop in United
51:11
States in the United States program and that's something I
51:13
spoke about. Van Beesburg spoke to Van
51:15
Beesburg with when it came to interview him in Dallas.
51:19
I said will we ever see a goaltender like you, 5859
51:22
playing in the NHL says it's not a chance in hell, Not a chance
51:25
in hell. The smallest goaltender in the
51:27
NHL is Jonathan Quick, who it was 6 foot 6 foot 1.
51:31
He says, I don't think you'll ever see a goalie that small in
51:33
the NHL. They're going to be 6 two or
51:35
bigger if they want to play professional hockey.
51:38
And that's, that's the difference right now in hockey,
51:40
bigger Nets and obviously more to, you know, more to take up
51:44
and, and look at. If you look at Connor Hollabuck,
51:46
he's one of the biggest goalies in the NHL.
51:48
He's 6 foot four and he's 230 lbs and you can see or 220
51:54
something pounds where you can see his abilities, reflexes and
51:58
the way he could take up the net.
52:00
I mean, he was unbelievable some of the saves that he made.
52:04
And remember, Connor Hollabuck is not a butterfly goalie.
52:08
He is a stand up goalie. That's what he is.
52:10
So it's it's a lot more harder now in these days cutting down
52:15
angles with his size and being a stand up goalie than being a
52:18
butterfly goalie and taking up the lower part of the net.
52:21
So and what makes him so unique is he takes up the lower part of
52:25
the net as good as anybody in the NHL And that's what's
52:28
amazing about him. So I don't think people
52:30
understand the goal tending end of hockey and how big he is and
52:34
how much he takes up the smaller part of the net where you're
52:37
going to have to go high on him. And he's got one of the fastest
52:39
gloves in the NHL, too. Yeah, I think a lot of them are
52:42
prioritizing a lot more. I think more of the Peck Arena
52:45
prototypes, those bigger goalies that are athletic, made those
52:48
unbelievable saves than you're seeing with the Jonathan Quick
52:50
and Henrik Lundqvist types anymore.
52:52
I think even if this generation of goalies, probably the only
52:54
one that I think of that 6 foot is probably John Gibson offhand,
52:57
and he's not even a great goalie.
52:58
So like you're judging, at least if you have the athleticism, you
53:02
still have the frame to make it work.
53:04
Got it. Before we move on, just want to
53:05
give a shout out one of our Western New York teams, Tage
53:08
Thompson, having to go against that onslaught of forwards from
53:11
Canada. He's a big part of the reason
53:14
why there was a lot of bending and not breaking.
53:16
I thought the way forward. Shout out to Bill Guerin for
53:19
making that move because he didn't pick him to be a part of
53:22
the the Four Nations. And a lot of people were
53:25
questioning how is Page Thompson not make the Four Nation team.
53:29
And this guy was sent down to the AHL a couple of times before
53:32
he he started to play as an elite player for Buffalo.
53:35
And he wasn't even drafted by the Buffalo Sabres.
53:37
He was traded by the Buffalo, He was traded for by the Buffalo
53:41
Sabres. So.
53:42
From the Blues for. O'Reilly Ryan O'Reilly so and
53:44
and you seen Ryan O'Reilly help them win a Stanley Cup and Tage
53:47
Thompson has been one of the best young offensive options the
53:51
Buffalo Sabres and the NHL has seen in a very, very long time.
53:54
How many forty goal seasons has he had or thirty goal seasons
53:57
has he had? He's been a big important growth
54:00
of the Buffalo Sabres and where they are today.
54:02
So Saturday was a big day in college basketball as the top 4
54:06
ranked teams squared off AT and it started with the number 4
54:12
Arizona beating the number 2 Houston in Houston 7366, the
54:19
first time Houston has lost at home this season and the first
54:23
time Houston has lost back-to-back games since January
54:27
2024. Arizona was missing second
54:30
leading scorer. How do you pronounce?
54:32
This coopete. Coopete and had many other
54:36
starters in foul trouble, yet was still able to beat another
54:41
top five team, their fourth win this season after beating
54:46
Florida, Alabama and UConn when they were ranked in the top
54:50
five. Houston's offense continues to
54:53
be question a question mark despite having projected top ten
54:59
pick Kingston Flemings and veteran guard Emmanuel Sharp
55:04
scoring 16 points per game. No other player averages more
55:08
than 11 a game. Coverage then went to the other
55:15
marquee match up of the day at then I'm sorry as then #3 Duke
55:21
beat #1 Michigan at home 6863, giving Michigan only their
55:27
second loss of the season. Duke gets their ninth win
55:30
against a top 25 team and in the today's these polls with Houston
55:37
also losing. The Blue Devils are back at #1
55:41
this week after Michigan cut the deficit to three points with
55:46
just under 2 minutes to go. The National player of the year
55:50
favorite Cameron Boozer was a clutch hitting a clutch, hitting
55:56
a mid range jumper and a two and hitting two free throws down the
56:01
stretch and finishing with a double double.
56:05
With 18 points, 10 rebounds and seven assists, Michigan has the
56:08
third tallest starting lineup as far as average size, but their
56:13
starting lineup combined to only hit 2-3 point.
56:17
I'm sorry, 23 pointers and were outscored by Duke in the paint
56:22
3424. All right, Arizona to me is one
56:29
of the best offensive teams in the nation.
56:31
They always are. They always are, but they to me,
56:34
what makes Arizona so good and so dangerous is the way they can
56:38
shoot the three and the way they can rebound with the size that
56:41
they have. Yes, when you look at Michigan
56:43
and how big they are, they're going to be a problem in this
56:46
tournament, especially if they go to the final four of the
56:49
elite aid. I expect Michigan to be a real
56:52
solid team throughout this tournament.
56:53
But solid doesn't win your championships.
56:57
But Houston, to me, their big problem going into the
57:01
tournament, we all know they're going to be either be a number
57:03
one or #2 seed, probably now possibly a number two seed.
57:06
We'll see how how it falls in in their favor as a one or two
57:11
seed. Houston's problem is scoring.
57:14
They've had a problem last year. Maybe that's why they didn't win
57:17
the national championship. I think that Houston didn't win
57:23
the National. Champion.
57:23
No. Yeah, they lost to Florida.
57:24
Final, that's what I'm saying. I'm trying to remember
57:27
everything that happened last year because I remember Auburn
57:30
and I just, I think honestly, when you look at Houston and the
57:36
ability that they have, they have one of the best coaches in
57:38
the nation. Yes, he's very good, very good
57:40
defensive minded coach. You saw what they did throughout
57:44
the tournament. They shut down Duke, especially
57:46
the final 2 1/2 minutes of the game.
57:48
And I think Shire has no answer and has had no answer for what
57:53
happened in that game and still to this day have no answer to
57:56
that game. How about North Carolina?
57:58
Surprising Duke that a couple of weeks ago and Shire still has no
58:02
answers of falling short after having such a big lead against
58:06
North Carolina. Houston is still a dangerous
58:10
team because of their defensive prowess, but if they can't score
58:14
more than 7580 points in a game in this tournament against some
58:18
of the elite teams, they're not beating the Blue, the Blue
58:22
Devils, they're not beating North Carolina.
58:25
If they're going to go into these games and not be able to
58:28
put a 78 or 80 points on the board, they're defensively,
58:32
defensively sound. We've seen them last year they
58:35
shut down teams. They kept teams to under 70
58:37
points in some of the games. They can do that.
58:40
Houston's that good of a defensive team that they can
58:42
shut you down. Arizona.
58:45
Arizona is good all around, but Arizona has shown me in the
58:49
tournament that they don't know how to show up in those big
58:52
games. They don't.
58:54
And until Arizona proves to me that they can show up in the big
58:57
game, I don't care where they're ranked.
58:58
They could be a number one seed, they could be a number two seed,
59:01
they could be a number three seed.
59:02
It doesn't matter. They got to show up in those big
59:05
games and make their shots year in and year out with the talent
59:09
that they've had and NBA talented players that they've
59:12
had, they fall in short. And that that to me says a lot
59:16
about the program and what the program is.
59:21
Michigan and and the Blue Devils, that was the game
59:24
everybody couldn't wait for because you got a chance to see
59:26
Camboozer. I believe Camboozer is as good
59:31
as anybody going into this year's draft.
59:35
Everybody looks at, you know, obviously Peterson and and and
59:40
the talented players that they are coming out to Benza from BYU
59:47
and we're going to get into that in just a few moments.
59:51
We all know who the three best guys coming out of this year's
59:55
draft class and there's a lot of good.
59:57
Flemings is going to be a good player too in the NBA.
59:59
Wilson's going to be a good player from North Carolina.
1:00:02
There's a lot of good players in this year's class.
1:00:05
How many times have we had specialist draft, you know,
1:00:09
draft guys, NBA draft guys on the show and telling us this is
1:00:12
the draft class you want to be in because you could find
1:00:15
somebody in the second round. You could find somebody in the
1:00:18
late first round and land yourself a nice player.
1:00:22
Now obviously these three guys are game changing players, but
1:00:27
what we saw, what Cam Boozer did at the tail end of the game to
1:00:31
seal the deal for the Blue Devils is he took over as the
1:00:35
star of this team. Everybody knows who his father
1:00:39
is. We all know the Boozer brothers,
1:00:43
we all know the back story behind who they are and what
1:00:47
they could be. I don't know what the, you know,
1:00:51
the young point guards going to be.
1:00:52
And we'll see how how everything works out for him.
1:00:55
Does he go back to college and play one more year with Duke?
1:00:58
Or does he go into the NBA draft and see where everything falls,
1:01:02
where there's his cards full? I don't know.
1:01:04
But we know that Cam is going into this year's draft class and
1:01:10
Cam is proving time and time again that he is absolutely
1:01:14
worth that number one pick. His ability to put the ball in
1:01:19
the net, his ability to score on the perimeter.
1:01:22
He's better than any one of these two guys in front of him
1:01:26
that a lot of people put him. Now we're going to go into that
1:01:29
and we're going to look at that and we can argue that.
1:01:33
But this game tells me one thing about Cam Boozer.
1:01:37
He's ready for the big day. He's ready for that big game.
1:01:39
He's ready to take this team to a championship, something that,
1:01:43
let's be honest, Cooper Flagg couldn't do, and I love Cooper.
1:01:50
Cooper Flagg's a star in this league, Might be the face of
1:01:52
United States basketball. Or is he?
1:01:57
This class could be the future of United States basketball.
1:02:01
Think about it. Flemings, Wilson, the Banza,
1:02:09
Peterson, Boozer. This could be the starting 5 for
1:02:15
Team US, Team USA basketball in about five to seven years.
1:02:21
And when we watch Michigan, Michigan's got some NBA players
1:02:25
on this roster. They do.
1:02:27
I don't know if they're top ten players, but they're players.
1:02:32
And Michigan's dangerous because of their size.
1:02:35
But we've seen big teams, Perdue for years have some of the
1:02:39
biggest teams in the nation and fall short.
1:02:44
Doesn't matter how big your team is.
1:02:46
It matters if you can score in the big parts of those games, in
1:02:51
the big, you know, final 5 minutes of those games.
1:02:55
That was the problem with Duke with two minutes left.
1:02:58
That gets used in in the tournament.
1:03:00
And they couldn't inbound to save their.
1:03:01
Life. They couldn't inbound and in
1:03:03
last five minutes they couldn't score.
1:03:05
I don't think they scored a field goal in 6 minutes, 7
1:03:08
minutes of that game. And that's what cost them
1:03:14
possibly playing in the championship game and maybe
1:03:17
winning a national championship because we see they're two young
1:03:21
studs are in the NBA right now up for rookie of the year.
1:03:24
So we know how talented that Duke Blue Devil team was.
1:03:29
And you could see Shire, his face turn red.
1:03:31
He has no answers, especially speaking to the media.
1:03:34
The man doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
1:03:38
But Duke gave him an extension, A5 year extension after the
1:03:42
fact. The fact here is Duke is going
1:03:48
to be the team to beat in this tournament.
1:03:50
They are. They're built to win a
1:03:53
championship. They're they're really good off
1:03:57
the bench. As good as they are with their
1:03:59
starting five, they've got size. They got offense coming off the
1:04:04
bench. They're two guys coming off the
1:04:05
bench, could put the ball in the net.
1:04:07
They got two really good defenders off the.
1:04:09
Bench, they have great defenders off the bench and that's and I
1:04:12
that's why I think Coach K is behind obviously recruiting
1:04:15
these players. It's not Shire, he's behind this
1:04:18
because if you know anything about Coach K's teams, they're
1:04:22
all good defensive teams. Always.
1:04:24
Coach K is a defensive minded coach, but watching these two
1:04:29
games, it only tells me one thing.
1:04:31
But all four of these teams are going to be in the Elite 8
1:04:34
unless one of these teams choke. They're that good.
1:04:38
All four of these teams, I don't care where Houston lands as a
1:04:41
number two seed or a number one seed, they're going to make the
1:04:44
Elite 8 unless they match up against any of these teams.
1:04:48
I know a lot of people like the Panzer and BYUBYU will make the
1:04:51
tournament just because of who he is.
1:04:53
I don't think they're any good. I like the team that they just
1:04:55
beat and actually a lot more. And Kansas?
1:05:00
They're up and down. They got a great coach and they
1:05:05
got some great players and and obviously one of the best
1:05:08
players in the nation right now at Peterson.
1:05:11
We know where the elite teams coming.
1:05:14
If you're watching March Madness, you're not betting for
1:05:16
the elite guys. If you're a betting man, you're
1:05:18
betting for the guy that is an 8 seed or a ten seed because those
1:05:22
are the guys. Those are the teams going into
1:05:24
those games not expected to win and they're going to play harder
1:05:27
defensively and they're going to try to win off the boards.
1:05:29
Especially this was last year. Usually when you have a year
1:05:31
with all #1 seeds, it's going to be something weirder this year.
1:05:34
I think it's wide open, wide open and, and watching these two
1:05:38
games and this is great for the NCAA because there's nothing to
1:05:41
watch on television, nothing. So watching it after the fact
1:05:46
and let's be honest, after the fact of Team USA winning a
1:05:49
champion, winning the gold medal, there was nothing but
1:05:52
this watching and, and what you're going to watch on
1:05:55
national television. Seriously, there's no NBA.
1:06:00
There's nothing good right now in the NBA.
1:06:03
There's nothing with the NHL. And now we're obviously with the
1:06:06
East Coast being like flooded with snow.
1:06:09
The NHL starts in probably a couple of a couple of days or
1:06:13
something of that magnitude, I think at the end of the week,
1:06:15
Thursday or Friday. Yeah, I think Thursday.
1:06:17
And baseball? We don't.
1:06:19
Pitchers and catches don't start for another week, and nobody's
1:06:21
going to care until spring training starts.
1:06:24
So as much as you can't wait as a Yankee fan or a Mets fan or
1:06:28
anywhere in the country, nobody gives a crap until the season
1:06:32
starts. And even then, the baseball
1:06:34
season doesn't really begin until after the All Star.
1:06:37
Break The baseball season doesn't really begin until we
1:06:39
could trust the Mets to hold the lead over 20 games over 500.
1:06:42
So this is a boring time for sports.
1:06:44
So what are you going to be speaking about?
1:06:46
And that's why Fish says it's very light when it comes to
1:06:48
sports. And we find the biggest stories.
1:06:51
You're going to talk about the gold medal championship game,
1:06:54
when you got a chance to watch United the USA win their first
1:06:58
gold medal in 46 years. And you're going to talk about
1:07:01
this story because these are the four best teams, teams right now
1:07:03
in the country. And they played off, they
1:07:05
matched up against one another in a time where there's nothing
1:07:09
to talk about with sports. So obviously, Cam Boozer is the
1:07:12
big name out of all these four teams.
1:07:14
And that is why we're going to get into the next subject in
1:07:18
just a few moments. Yeah, I was going to mention
1:07:19
because Duke is definitely the best team when it comes to
1:07:22
talent. They're actually in defensive
1:07:24
and offensive efficiency. They're #2 defense, number one
1:07:26
off or number one offense #2 defense.
1:07:28
And they have on paper 6, I think 4 defenders in the top 15
1:07:33
that are the most, 6/4 of the most defensive players in the
1:07:36
country. And that should be a
1:07:39
championship Calor team automatically.
1:07:40
Now you question the experience. That's one thing that's not
1:07:43
winning as much in college basketball nowadays.
1:07:45
I think after their Dukes win in 2015, it's kind of shifted to a
1:07:49
lot of veteran teams. Like you're more seeing more of
1:07:51
those types of transfer type teams Now obviously Florida
1:07:53
winning it last year, which I was still surprised that I'll
1:07:55
admit all I was wrong on them. I picked them out on the Sweet
1:07:57
16. But a lot of the teams,
1:07:59
Villanova, veteran team that won, Baylor was a veteran team
1:08:02
that they won. So like, that's the only thing
1:08:04
that worries me with Duke. And obviously, like you said,
1:08:06
Shire, like could he actually coach competently and not have
1:08:09
droughts and not know when to call timeouts like he did
1:08:12
against Houston, too? Michigan, it'll depend on if
1:08:15
they can get enough scoring from their perimeter, if they can get
1:08:17
enough scoring early in games. Now they've played a tough
1:08:20
schedule. The Big 10 up the top is very
1:08:22
tough with Purdue, A-Team, you mentioned they're very good.
1:08:25
Michigan State's good. Illinois is good.
1:08:27
They have a tough gauntlet and they play a really tough out of
1:08:29
conference. Michigan, Michigan doesn't have
1:08:31
a big bench. I mean, they have a big bench
1:08:33
when it comes to size, but they don't have a bench that's going
1:08:35
to give you a lot of offense. They need that offense from
1:08:38
Johnson and Mara and Burnett. They, they need these guys.
1:08:41
And Burnett did not have a good game in in this particular game.
1:08:44
But Leonidborg, he actually played as good as anybody.
1:08:48
Yeah. He's the best player, I think
1:08:49
that's where. Is he a is he a first round
1:08:51
talent? He might be I again, tough to
1:08:54
tell if he'll he'll declare. It's one of those things where
1:08:57
because he wasn't like a higher end prospect, I think he was
1:08:59
another one that was a transfer or a red shirt freshman.
1:09:02
I forget offhand. He might still have a little
1:09:04
more raw traits to go on, but he definitely is a prolific scorer
1:09:07
that if Michigan can get that level of like shooting prowess
1:09:11
like you saw with Florida, with having a couple players like
1:09:13
that last year, they can definitely still win it because
1:09:16
of their size and their defense. And they have a coach in Dusty
1:09:18
May that went to a final forward, Duke.
1:09:20
The thing about Duke, what makes Duke so dangerous, is they
1:09:23
spread out their offense. Foster gave you 12.
1:09:25
Boozer gave you 18. Evans gave you 14, Sarah, Sarah
1:09:29
gave you 5 points. So they spread out their offense
1:09:32
so very well. Duke and I don't know if they're
1:09:35
very well coached because it's just they're very well boiled
1:09:38
together. Their their defensive prowess is
1:09:41
as good as anybody right now in the nation.
1:09:43
And they they can score in many different ways.
1:09:46
And like I said, Boozer is probably one of the best
1:09:49
perimeter players, if not the best perimeter player in college
1:09:52
basketball. And that's why, ladies and
1:09:54
gentlemen, my argument will stand in the next subject, the
1:09:58
gentleman. Said I wanted to get to the
1:09:59
other side first before you go fish.
1:10:01
I wanted to mention the Arizona and Houston side and what you
1:10:04
brought up. Being skeptical with Arizona.
1:10:05
I've been skeptical of them all the last three tournaments.
1:10:07
Believe me. They have one of these flashy
1:10:09
teams on paper that always play the same way and it doesn't
1:10:12
work. And they've played down to teams
1:10:14
a lot of times, even when they've won and Houston do.
1:10:16
They got a good bench. They they have a good bench and
1:10:18
I think now you're seeing in games this year where there's a
1:10:20
lot of injuries that they've had.
1:10:21
They've had a little more of a sense of adversity.
1:10:23
Will it continue? I don't know.
1:10:24
Again, the top of the Big 12 is tough, like the top of the Big
1:10:26
10 is very tough. Will it be able to work going
1:10:29
forward? I I still don't know if I trust
1:10:30
Arizona at the same level. The team I like the most with
1:10:32
the Big 12, oddly enough, is Iowa State, who we'll talk about
1:10:35
later. They lost to BYU recently and
1:10:37
then Houston, like you said, I think last year was their best
1:10:39
chance and they blew it. I don't know if they have enough
1:10:41
offense this year to do it and they.
1:10:43
Didn't have enough offense last year to do it.
1:10:44
Yeah, but. See, last year was like at least
1:10:46
they had a hyper efficient offense.
1:10:48
They didn't turn the ball over a lot and they still could score
1:10:50
with the threes, which if they play good enough defense and
1:10:53
just didn't have those super cold spells like you saw when
1:10:55
Duke beat Houston the year before when Houston scored 49
1:10:58
points or something. Like they don't do that like
1:11:00
they should win last year, but they didn't, obviously.
1:11:03
And then the problem I have with Arizona and Houston is they're
1:11:06
out of conference schedule. They're not playing a lot of
1:11:08
tough games compared to Michigan and Duke and even some of the
1:11:10
SEC teams like that. That's the only thing that
1:11:12
scares me about those two. That's a Big 12 thing, Speedy.
1:11:15
They don't. They don't go as competitive
1:11:17
outside because they have enough to deal with here.
1:11:19
Look Arizona, Houston at the top of the Big 12.
1:11:22
Just want to show you guys some of the standings behind them.
1:11:25
It's Iowa State and then Kansas. We'll talk about Kansas in a
1:11:28
minute, Texas Tech and then BYU kind of distant after that with
1:11:31
an 8 in six Big 12 record. But as far as I'm concerned,
1:11:35
that Big 12 tournament is the tournament to watch in the
1:11:39
conference tournament season, which starts in just nine days.
1:11:41
Guys, it's going to be it's next week and then a couple of days
1:11:44
into next week we get to those conference tournaments.
1:11:46
Obviously the small schools will start speedy probably this
1:11:49
weekend. Oh yeah.
1:11:50
I'm sure, I'm sure we'll be getting some great bets from
1:11:52
Reno Johnny. He loves those small conference
1:11:54
turn. Yeah, on our Let's parlay
1:11:56
segment on Thursday. Let's definitely see if we get
1:11:58
Johnny on for that. I'm sure he'd love to cut to bet
1:12:00
on some of those, but that's that's what I'm seeing in
1:12:03
Arizona. They got like 6 guys that can
1:12:05
put up 20 on you if they if they really wanted.
1:12:07
Bury's is I mean, I don't know where they're putting him as far
1:12:11
as draft stock Speedy, but he's got to be a lottery pick the way
1:12:15
he's played this year. And and then they have the
1:12:18
veteran the the senior point guard.
1:12:19
I was talking to you about it earlier.
1:12:21
I love that formula for March Madness when you have the senior
1:12:24
point guard and you have the athletic freshman wings and the
1:12:27
point guard can put them in a good spot offensively and then
1:12:30
you have enough. And because of that, they have
1:12:32
this great defense because they're so athletic and I I
1:12:35
really think there's a lot to that.
1:12:37
But that Big 12 tournament, you got the bands, you got berries
1:12:40
in Arizona with all their depth. Coopete, another really good
1:12:43
player, just they're really good and Houston's all about defense.
1:12:46
If they can figure out the offense.
1:12:48
We all, we know who Houston is. We saw them last year go almost
1:12:51
all the way. They don't have as much offense
1:12:53
as they had last year. They still haven't really
1:12:55
figured out where they're going to get it in some of these games
1:12:57
against the lead competition. That's Houston.
1:12:59
I think it's I think it's going to be real great going to the
1:13:03
ACC Duke is the king of the ACC. Virginia, really good squad this
1:13:07
year, 12:00 and 2:00 in the ACC there in second.
1:13:10
Then you have two teams tied at 10 and four Miami in the NC
1:13:14
State, Clemson, North Carolina and Louisville.
1:13:18
Louisville is probably overall the third team after Duke in
1:13:21
Virginia, though. And be careful because North
1:13:22
Carolina has surprised a lot of people in some of their wins
1:13:25
this year. They knocked off Duke coming
1:13:27
back the way they did. So there's no sure thing when
1:13:31
you're playing. If North Carolina makes this
1:13:32
tournament, which they probably will because of who they are,
1:13:36
don't. I mean, I'm not a Herb Davis fan
1:13:38
as far as what he's done as far as I mean, I remember him as a
1:13:45
Nick. He was a great number.
1:13:46
He was a 6th or 7th man off the bench for for years for the New
1:13:50
York Knicks and he was as a three-point, quote UN quote
1:13:53
specialist if he was that. But as far as as a coach, I
1:13:57
don't know if I would bet on him as the as a coach that's going
1:14:00
to take this team all the way to a national championship.
1:14:02
But he did take him to a final four.
1:14:04
So it's not like he can't find a way to get this team to play
1:14:07
well. He's got a great player in
1:14:09
Wilson who's going to be a lottery pick, There's no
1:14:11
question a top five pick. So he's got a superstar.
1:14:14
He's got a stud that he can really put all, you know, put
1:14:17
all the pressure on to try to take over games.
1:14:20
Yeah. That's one of those teams to, I
1:14:22
think you look at the depth of the ACC as well.
1:14:25
North Carolina gives the Duke the other level of battle test
1:14:28
and I was worried about that last year with Duke like they
1:14:29
weren't battle tested enough and now you're seeing them schedule
1:14:32
these tougher out of conference schedule.
1:14:34
I think the the advanced metrics was saying they were top 17th in
1:14:38
out of conference schedule Duke, which they've done more in the
1:14:42
beginning of the season as well in the past, but never to this
1:14:44
level overall. And finally, the Big 10.
1:14:47
Michigan, despite the law, still 3 game lead for first place in
1:14:51
the Big 10. They're going to be the Big 10
1:14:53
regular Caesar champions and then favorites in the Big 10
1:14:56
tournament. Yet Illinois, who just lost is
1:15:00
the next team tied after that is a three-way tie between Michigan
1:15:04
State. Jabba's Nebraska teams falling
1:15:07
on a little bit of hard times recently.
1:15:09
They're 12:00 and 4:00 because he's.
1:15:10
Paying attention to them and watching them.
1:15:15
Put the kibosh on them and Purdue's had a really good year,
1:15:18
as as usual, 22 and five overall.
1:15:22
Very well coached, they always are.
1:15:24
So you have 5, you have 5, really, really elite.
1:15:26
Then you got Wisconsin and UCLA, who I love that.
1:15:29
I still don't really understand the LA being in the Big 10 part
1:15:33
of it. But that's all another thing
1:15:35
that has nothing to do with it. And you got Iowa with the upset
1:15:37
the other day. So still a lot going on in that
1:15:40
Big 10. Any game, any teams that you
1:15:42
think we should look out for in that Big 10?
1:15:44
You said Purdue, speedy. I think Purdue, definitely, I
1:15:47
think they're the second best team.
1:15:48
I worry Illinois a little bit with their defense that they've
1:15:51
always been more of an offensive juggernaut.
1:15:53
Those teams, except for the one year two years ago where they
1:15:55
got blown up by UConn later in the tournament, they're usually
1:15:57
an early exit. Nebraska I'm still not sure with
1:16:00
their offense yet. UCLA is interesting though as
1:16:02
like maybe a 5 or 6 seed. They can definitely make noise
1:16:05
because Cronin went to the Final Four with them as an 11 seed
1:16:08
four years ago and they lost on that insane buzzer metered by
1:16:12
Gonzaga. And so I would say they're a
1:16:14
sleeper. But I think Michigan is
1:16:15
definitely the best, followed by Purdue.
1:16:16
And I mentioned when I call your shot a few weeks ago, I think
1:16:19
Michigan states overrated a little still so.
1:16:21
Speaking of overrated, BYU forward AJ Debanza after their
1:16:27
upset win over then over then number six Iowa State told
1:16:32
reporters he is willing to play a heavy workload to help BYU win
1:16:37
a national championship. AJ mentioned how he would play
1:16:41
40 minutes every night and has a motor that that's high or higher
1:16:48
than any star player in the country.
1:16:51
This was perceived by some in the media to be a jab at Kansas
1:16:57
guard Darren Peterson, who has had multiple injury issues this
1:17:03
season. The Ringer's Bill Simmons said
1:17:06
that he couldn't imagine Peterson, who many had a as a
1:17:11
lock, as the number one pick early in this season, being the
1:17:15
top pick anymore. While Peterson has excellent has
1:17:20
been excellent for Kansas, he has missed a lot of games and
1:17:25
has had his minutes limited all season, lending Simmons and
1:17:30
others like ESPN Jay Williams to question the drive and work
1:17:35
ethic of Peterson. Will he be able to play at the
1:17:40
NBA level? AJ has played 33.7 minutes per
1:17:45
game, averaging 24.9 points per game, 6.7 rebounds and four
1:17:51
assists, and played 40 plus minutes in three of his last
1:17:56
four games for BYU. Peterson has played only 27.6
1:18:00
minutes per game and has missed 11 of Kansas 27 games.
1:18:05
ESP NS Dick Fatale Vitale Vitale I'm sorry, believes that Kansas
1:18:10
needs a divorce from Peterson person calling it a soap opera
1:18:15
and a nightmare that needs to end if Kansas wants to win a
1:18:21
title. Kansas coach Bill Self has
1:18:24
called all the injury narratives with Peterson BS saying it's
1:18:30
just a bunch of people on social media that want to be fake
1:18:35
doctors. Don't you love Bill?
1:18:38
'S self. There's a lot of fake doctors
1:18:40
with football. Let's not get him in college.
1:18:41
You love Bill's self. I, I actually really, really
1:18:44
enjoy what Bill's self has to say.
1:18:46
And I'm, I'm, I'm not going to take shots at Bill's self
1:18:49
because the guy knows championship basketball, OK?
1:18:52
He, he knows he's won a championship with Kansas.
1:18:55
This guy's a winner. But he's had his own problems
1:18:58
when it comes to health, heart problems.
1:19:01
He's been sick. He last year, he, I, I think
1:19:04
Kansas got knocked out when he wasn't even on the bench.
1:19:06
Yeah, he's had to step away during the Big 12 tournament all
1:19:08
together. So we all know that Bill S has
1:19:11
not really not been there, but he knows how to recruit players
1:19:14
and I, he's sticking up first player as far as Peterson's
1:19:17
concerned now, Dick Fatale, Vitali who who's supposed to be
1:19:20
on a show and we'll get him on the show.
1:19:22
I'd love to hear his thoughts on these three top dogs.
1:19:26
Obviously Debenza and Peterson and Boozer, where would he break
1:19:31
these guys and where would he put them?
1:19:33
Interesting thing with both these guys is the devil
1:19:37
development of all these guys. Now we all know what the bands
1:19:40
it gives he he's raw, athletically gifted, physical
1:19:44
upside, high ceiling to to develop, likely to be refining
1:19:48
technically. So we know what he is.
1:19:51
He's a development prospect. He is that kind of player.
1:19:54
He's athletically gifted. Remember, he's 6 foot 9.
1:19:57
The problem with the bands out that I would say going into the
1:20:00
NBA is not his athletic ability. I think his his outside
1:20:04
shooting, his perimeter game, which needs to be cleaned up.
1:20:08
But everything else about the bands as far as defense is
1:20:11
concerned and controlling, you know, dominating in the, you
1:20:14
know, to the basket is ability to dunk and all that other
1:20:17
stuff. This guy is as gifted as any
1:20:19
player we've seen come out of the draft in the last 15 to 20
1:20:22
years. We all know what he is.
1:20:24
We all know what he rates. We all know how much he scores.
1:20:27
He's a really a dominant player and coming out of going into
1:20:31
this year's class as far as talent, a lot of people out to
1:20:35
bands has the most talented one and they said that BYU has the
1:20:38
number one guy in the whole class.
1:20:41
But Peterson, his his technical abilities, his ability to get
1:20:47
into the paint and dominating the pain, he's great
1:20:49
defensively. Obviously he's the problem with
1:20:53
him is staying healthy and being there and his upside is still
1:20:58
there to really develop into with his skills.
1:21:01
He's got the ability to be a superstar in the NBA.
1:21:04
He really does. But a lot of these Kansas
1:21:07
players, as we seen in the past, one of them that's playing for
1:21:11
the 76ers, you know what I'm talking about.
1:21:13
Yeah, the The Dirty 1. Joel Embiid, remember him?
1:21:17
He was a Kansas player. He's had knee injuries ever
1:21:20
since he's come out of Kansas. And the same thing can go for a
1:21:24
guy like, you know, Peterson. Peterson can't stay healthy.
1:21:28
And the same thing with Joel Embiid when he was playing
1:21:30
College in it, you know, the year that they were going to
1:21:33
make a run for a national championship.
1:21:35
What did they say about Joel Embiid?
1:21:36
Can he stay healthy? Can he stay healthy?
1:21:39
And that's why he fell the way he did.
1:21:41
He wasn't a he wasn't the number one pick in the draft.
1:21:44
No, his teammate was Andrew Wiggins.
1:21:45
Andrew Wiggins was and the reason why is, is his health
1:21:48
problems and the health concerns and that's why the 76ers took a
1:21:52
chance with him. Now, I wouldn't say take a
1:21:53
chance because he won an MVP or did he because he cried a bit.
1:21:57
But the fact here is, is when you look at both of these
1:22:01
players, they're very comparable.
1:22:03
Now, a lot of people would say AG Dabanza has more skill and
1:22:07
and probably has more upside to Peterson.
1:22:10
And Dabanza can stay healthy. He can play 40 plus minutes,
1:22:13
something that Peterson hasn't done all season long for Kansas.
1:22:17
So if that's what you want to sell and that's what you're
1:22:19
selling to NBA teams, then Dabanza would be ahead of him.
1:22:23
But it is so very small on how you can compare both these guys
1:22:29
and who would you pick in front of one or the other?
1:22:32
And that's my opinion. But there is one guy that I
1:22:36
would pick in front of both of these guys and that's Cambuser.
1:22:41
And I know everybody's going to say, well, you're a Duke fan,
1:22:43
that's why you're saying it. Here's the thing I said this
1:22:48
about Cooper Flag and I'll say it about Cambuser.
1:22:51
Cambuser is a better all around player than Cooper Flagg is.
1:22:55
He is a better all around player than Cooper Flagg.
1:23:01
That says a lot. And we all know his pedigree.
1:23:03
We know who his father was. His father played for Team USA
1:23:06
Basketball. His father was a star in the
1:23:09
NBA, wasn't a superstar, but he was a star player.
1:23:12
He was a good player. He's way better than his father
1:23:14
was, longer than his father was, athletically gifted than his
1:23:20
father was, better shooter than his father was.
1:23:25
That's the type of player Cam Boozer is.
1:23:27
And when you look at father and son combinations, it doesn't
1:23:30
usually work out. This, ladies and gentlemen, will
1:23:33
work out. This might be the the best
1:23:36
father and son comparison as far as players and star players that
1:23:40
go from, you know, NBA players to from from college to the NBA.
1:23:45
And remember, where did Carlos Boozer play speedy in college?
1:23:50
Duke. Where is his son play Duke
1:23:54
exactly? Carlos Boozer was a high draft
1:23:58
pick. By who was it the Cavs?
1:24:01
I think it was, I don't remember.
1:24:02
I think it was the Cavs if I'm not mistaken.
1:24:07
I'm going to tell you guys this right now.
1:24:11
Cam Boozer might be not only better than his dad, not only
1:24:18
probably the best player in this class, he is going to be one of
1:24:22
the top five NBA players in the next 5 to 6 years.
1:24:26
That's how good of a player he is.
1:24:28
This guy could score 30 points. This guy could as far as
1:24:32
dominant force on the perimeter. Now, I'm not saying to Banza
1:24:34
can't do that. I'm not saying Peterson can't do
1:24:36
that. All of these guys are going to
1:24:38
be the future of United States basketball.
1:24:40
All three of these guys are going to be a big part of USA
1:24:43
Basketball and they're going to need it because USA Basketball
1:24:47
is going to lose a a huge amount of talent.
1:24:50
LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Steph Curry all gone in the next
1:24:54
5 years. They're going to need guys like
1:24:56
the Banza and Peterson and Boozer to be the faces with
1:25:02
Cooper flag. And I'm going to tell you this
1:25:05
right now. What I've watched we call a guy
1:25:08
like Camp Boozer and what I've seen watching him play high
1:25:10
school ball all the way to college and what everybody has
1:25:13
said about him. Not only has he's developed into
1:25:16
a a man, but he has so much more ability and and and transition
1:25:21
of a player to become the superstar, the face of United
1:25:24
States basketball over the Banza over Peterson.
1:25:29
His skills are not limited. And I'll say that about Peterson
1:25:33
and the Banza. Both guys are not great
1:25:35
perimeter shooters. They're not.
1:25:38
You could say whatever you want. Most of their scoring goes in
1:25:41
the paint. If you look at Peterson and what
1:25:45
he does, they're athletically gifted.
1:25:46
Both of these guys are much more athletic than boozers.
1:25:50
If that's what sells you athletic ability.
1:25:52
How about this? Is Luka Doncic that much that
1:25:56
athletic as a player? How about Nicola Jokic?
1:26:00
Is he that athletic of a player? No.
1:26:04
The two best players you can argue in the NBA and Nicola
1:26:08
Jokic and Luka Dodgic, their strength is not athletic
1:26:12
ability. So what does that tell you about
1:26:16
the NBA? Athletically gifted players like
1:26:20
Anthony Edwards don't win championships.
1:26:23
They don't. Now, I'm not saying again, I'm
1:26:27
not taking shots at AJ Dubanza. I'm not taking shots, Darren
1:26:33
Peterson. I I'm not taking shots at any of
1:26:35
these guys. I think they're all ultra
1:26:38
talented. These guys are going to be great
1:26:41
players in the NBA if they could stay healthy.
1:26:44
That's what I worry about. Darren Peterson, I don't know if
1:26:46
he's going to stay healthy. And that's why teams might
1:26:50
question on drafting this kid in the top three.
1:26:54
Yes, I said it. I don't know.
1:26:56
If I draft Darren Peterson in my top three, I take Wilson over
1:27:01
him. I would I would take Wilson over
1:27:04
him from North Carolina. Why?
1:27:07
Because one thing I could say about Wilson is not only the
1:27:11
size, his ability to shoot, he could shoot around the
1:27:15
perimeter. He's a better shooter than the
1:27:17
Banza and Peterson. I've watched North Carolina play
1:27:20
this year. I saw what they did to Duke.
1:27:24
I saw what happened at the end of the game, at the end of the
1:27:26
game against Duke, even though one of the fans punched out one
1:27:30
of the coaches at Duke, which is pretty funny actually, I had to
1:27:33
laugh at that. But I remember that very well.
1:27:35
You said if that was me, I would have saved for John.
1:27:37
Shire. Damn right.
1:27:39
If I'm running on the court, I'm punching out John Shire.
1:27:41
I'm not. I'm not going after anybody but
1:27:43
John Shire. I, I, I take my licks out of
1:27:47
him. I mean, seriously.
1:27:49
But here's the facts. All three of these guys are
1:27:52
going to be great players. I think this class is as good as
1:27:55
any class we've seen in a very long time.
1:27:57
And I know a lot of people in the past would say, hey, we've
1:28:00
said that before. We've said it before.
1:28:04
Remember the Lonzo Ball draft? Remember that?
1:28:06
That was a horrible draft. Yeah, I I wasn't dazed down on
1:28:10
Lonzo as some other people were at the network at the time.
1:28:12
I still liked him, but I didn't love it as much as the.
1:28:14
National. I hate it.
1:28:15
I liked the Aaron Fox and Lori marketed in that draft mainly.
1:28:19
And both guys are pretty good players.
1:28:21
Lori Marketing is a good player and D Aaron Fox, but Lori
1:28:24
Marketing can't stay healthy and D Aaron Fox is up and down.
1:28:27
We don't know that. We haven't seen the best of D
1:28:30
Aaron Fox yet, even with the Spurs.
1:28:32
But this class is way better than that class.
1:28:36
You're talking about probably 7 or 8 players that can be super
1:28:41
superstars in the NBA. And we're not even talking about
1:28:44
the foreign players. And they're saying that some of
1:28:46
these these foreign players are falling to the teens, the late
1:28:50
teens that I'm watching and I'm seeing right now on some
1:28:55
people's draft boards, which is crazy.
1:28:57
There are three foreign players right now that some people say
1:29:00
have Luka Doncic talent and they're falling into the 20s
1:29:05
and. Luka fell.
1:29:05
Luka fell. Even though he got trusted at 5,
1:29:07
he fell. A lot of people thought he would
1:29:08
go 3. Well, the Hawks probably regret
1:29:10
what they did. Sure.
1:29:12
They they definitely regret what they.
1:29:13
Did well. The Mavericks will regret it
1:29:14
more. And it was the one move that we
1:29:16
can say that somebody who wants his team back made the right
1:29:20
choice. Oh yeah.
1:29:21
Good luck. We all know Mark Cuban who wants
1:29:24
to buy back the Dallas Mavericks and he made the right choice as
1:29:28
far as the Trey Young and Luka Doncic.
1:29:30
He he did what he did to obviously move up to get Luca
1:29:34
and he made a great trade with the New York Knicks to get, you
1:29:37
know, Porzingis, even though it didn't work out over there.
1:29:41
I mean he didn't give up much what, 2 second round?
1:29:43
Traffic for Howard Porzingis, he made all those great moves that
1:29:47
they hired Nico Harrison. And Nico Harrison came in and
1:29:49
then a new ownership group, and they're obviously not getting
1:29:53
their casino, so they don't want the team anymore.
1:29:55
So now you see Mark Cuban smelling blood, as we all know.
1:29:59
Remember Dave Portnoy, he sold Barstool.
1:30:02
Does anybody know that story? He sold Barstool for a
1:30:06
significant amount of money. A significant, I don't know how
1:30:08
much it was, but over 100, a hundred, some odd billion.
1:30:11
You know, it was, it was a lot of money.
1:30:13
He made a lot of money off of it, off of it.
1:30:16
He sold it and then the, the company was going down the
1:30:19
drain. So you know what he did?
1:30:20
He bought the company back for 50 million.
1:30:23
So he made like $500 million on the, on selling the company just
1:30:27
to buy it back for 50 million. Then I heard that he didn't even
1:30:29
have to pay them the 50 million. He just had to do something or,
1:30:33
you know, give them something back that obviously benefited
1:30:36
the organization that bought them.
1:30:37
And he got the, practically got the name back.
1:30:40
So who, who do you think won on that deal?
1:30:42
And, and Mark Cuban's going to do the same thing with the
1:30:45
Dollar's Maverick. He's going to spin the wheel.
1:30:47
Maybe he'll he'll, he'll buy them with dog coin.
1:30:50
What? What's that?
1:30:51
You know those Bitcoin? Companies I remember off, that's
1:30:53
Wes on that. One no, I mean dodge dodge coin
1:30:56
or whatever the hell it was that he was sold on.
1:30:58
Maybe he just buys a team with with one of those Bitcoin
1:31:01
companies as a Bitcoin has gone down from 120,000 to like 63,000
1:31:07
in like less than three or four months.
1:31:09
Oh. Yeah, just have to go back up.
1:31:11
They dip. So I, I don't know if you know
1:31:13
these, these, what they call them crypto, those crypto
1:31:17
currencies are working out anymore as far as I'm concerned.
1:31:20
We had to invent the name for one for Wes.
1:31:22
We forgot to do that for a while.
1:31:24
What would name him? What would we?
1:31:25
I don't remember what we were thinking about at the time, but
1:31:28
we had to because Wes is in all. That Wesleys joint that's could
1:31:33
you imagine Wes getting high or something like that?
1:31:36
I, I couldn't imagine. I've seen Wes get drunk but I I
1:31:39
couldn't imagine Wes get high, could you?
1:31:42
You're right, I never really think of that because he talks
1:31:44
about all his college football trips that he makes.
1:31:46
I wonder which one would be the most likely word of.
1:31:48
Game I would love to see him get high on marijuana, some trees
1:31:52
and watch this guy just completely just go crazy on a on
1:31:55
a, you know, on the sidelines because he gets really, really
1:31:58
close to the sidelines and he's a big Buckeyes fan and he's like
1:32:02
now he's a roll tie. He's an Alabama fan.
1:32:04
And he inherited inherited Mississippi State with the
1:32:07
cowboy. That's true that he had to have
1:32:09
his son with playing that one time.
1:32:11
Then he came on the cell. That's right.
1:32:13
This is going to be a wider whoever passes up on Cam Boozer,
1:32:16
and if he falls to three and let's say the Nets are sitting
1:32:19
there or Dallas is sitting there, whoever's sitting there
1:32:22
with the Wizards are sitting there at 3:00, Let's believe
1:32:26
they're getting the best player in this class.
1:32:28
I'll tell you this right now. Remember I said this?
1:32:30
Book it, book it that Cam Boozer is the best player in this
1:32:36
class. Not by a little, by a lot.
1:32:38
Yeah, I had Cam Boozer ahead of Darren Peterson as it was now
1:32:41
the obviously with these reports of all these injuries now too, I
1:32:44
was worried about that when he had the first injury, Darren
1:32:46
Peterson and it took him a month for him to come back.
1:32:48
This is the beginning of the season too, and we've I've
1:32:51
criticized Kansas the last couple years.
1:32:52
I've had trouble keeping their players healthy the last two
1:32:54
years going into the conference tournament.
1:32:56
And that's a big reason they haven't made it out of the the
1:32:58
first round since or the first weekend since they won the
1:33:01
national championship in 2022. And a lot of that had to do with
1:33:05
the the way they're managing their team.
1:33:06
But that early in the season, I don't know if you could justify
1:33:08
that same kind of case. And then he has a cramping and
1:33:11
literally a week later another ankle injury and then cramping
1:33:14
again. So is he being rushed back?
1:33:15
Is he being mismanaged that way? Or is it what Jay Williams is
1:33:18
saying? Is he deliberately saying I'm
1:33:20
going to protect myself because you guys are winning without me?
1:33:23
And how much is that a good work ethic for the BA standards?
1:33:26
Now, I'm not saying A-Team that's so far down like the Nets
1:33:29
wouldn't take him. If let's say the Nets even get
1:33:31
unlucky in the draft and he falls to five or something, I
1:33:33
would still probably take him. But still you do question that
1:33:36
kind of you would. Absolutely question where if he
1:33:38
should fall out of the top three to five.
1:33:40
You would, you would think, and that's where I'm going to put
1:33:42
you. Like you said, the 2017 draft.
1:33:44
Remember the number one pick in that draft?
1:33:46
Markel Fultz, a guy that barely played in college as well.
1:33:48
Couldn't hit a shoot, he couldn't shoot a foul shot.
1:33:50
Yeah, I know. And there were already
1:33:52
deficiencies in his game as it was.
1:33:53
He was very raw and I was questioned when he was.
1:33:56
Going roll was being nice, I know.
1:33:58
Remember Maddie Capps? Oh, I know the best guy.
1:34:01
That was my first year at the net.
1:34:02
I. Remember it very well fucking
1:34:04
he's the best player in this class and I was like, get the
1:34:07
hell. Yeah, I had the best player.
1:34:09
Did I ever think he would be as bad as he was?
1:34:10
No, but I did. Think I did.
1:34:12
I did. I did think that he was not
1:34:14
number one pick worthy. I thought he was a middle of the
1:34:16
first round type pick and. So highly overrated.
1:34:18
And same that same draft, the number four pick, another Kansas
1:34:21
guy, Josh Jackson, a guy that got a lot of hype and Phoenix
1:34:24
took him. He never went anywhere.
1:34:25
I think he played like three years in the NBA and.
1:34:28
That's why. How about the Cavs after the
1:34:29
fact? When LeBron James left, who did
1:34:31
they try? Anthony Bett?
1:34:32
Anthony Bettitt? How bad was?
1:34:34
He that was, I think everyone knew that was a disaster because
1:34:37
he was supposed to be like, no worse than like drafting at
1:34:39
7:00. How about Kwame Brown?
1:34:40
Remember that. That was a little before my
1:34:42
time, but I know how bad it. Was it was bad?
1:34:44
And I remember Michael. Jordan, they say Jordan, like,
1:34:46
bullied him, his confidence out of like just he couldn't stand
1:34:51
how he was on the court. And that's the kind of feeling I
1:34:54
get from this Peterson guy. Guys, I, I can't, I just don't
1:34:58
see it. There was a clip of him.
1:35:00
I was looking up as I was showing some videos of his
1:35:03
playing. Obviously he's a really good
1:35:05
player. No one's saying he's not.
1:35:07
But there's clips of him like signaling to the bench, Hey,
1:35:09
Take Me Out. I, I, I'm sorry, this is D1
1:35:15
basketball. You're trying to get, you know,
1:35:17
position your team for seating in the Big 12 tournament.
1:35:21
You're trying to like gel with your team, which The thing is,
1:35:25
you know, as you say, Dick Vital says that he's not gelling with
1:35:29
the team. It's just ugly over there.
1:35:31
And Candace, why do you want to die like that?
1:35:33
And Candace tends to do better with a more organic core, not
1:35:35
with the flashy freshmen as much when it comes to winning
1:35:38
championships, which Bill self-made that work for some
1:35:41
Final Four teams. But they've also had their
1:35:43
blunders of the first weekend. So where they have these flashy
1:35:46
freshmen like the Wiggins MBT was out in the second round.
1:35:50
So why did he go to Kansas? Like did they really offer him
1:35:53
something like he just couldn't refuse?
1:35:55
It just doesn't make any sense why he's on that squad.
1:35:57
It doesn't. He just doesn't fit and they
1:36:00
play better without him sometimes, you know, like, but
1:36:02
if there's someone like the bands that he has to go against,
1:36:05
you probably want a guy of his caliber out there.
1:36:08
And they've they've matched up. They were very even in their
1:36:10
matchup earlier this year. But I don't know, Errol, I'm
1:36:13
with you. Like for me, I look at Boozer
1:36:16
and I'm like, if Kevin Love was athletic, he'd be this guy.
1:36:21
And that's, I think the ceiling. Like, what would an athletic
1:36:24
Kevin Love look like? Because he can pass like Kevin
1:36:26
Love. He could shoot like Kevin Love,
1:36:27
he could rebound like Kevin Love.
1:36:29
But we can do more with his body than Kevin Love was ever able to
1:36:34
do. And it's exciting as a player.
1:36:37
I I would love to have that player on my team.
1:36:39
It's like, like better than what Julius Randle would give you at
1:36:42
the power forward. It's some it's someone you could
1:36:44
build around. It's like almost like a Weber
1:36:46
type of a deal. Like you can get out of him.
1:36:49
And I would love to have that. Please fall.
1:36:52
But if I feel like he's going to go top 2 now for sure with the
1:36:56
way Peterson's handling this season.
1:36:57
Yeah, and the other thing too, Fish, is the work ethic.
1:37:01
Him taking out of games reminds me of a lot of 1/3 great
1:37:04
Philadelphia. The 76ers draft pick that did
1:37:06
the same thing at LSU, Ben Simmons and he barely played at
1:37:09
the end of that season as well. Granted, LSU was not going to
1:37:11
the tournament like this Kansas team will, but you wonder if
1:37:13
those kinds of work ethic things could carry I.
1:37:15
Mean, I mean, how many, you know, strikeouts of the
1:37:19
Philadelphia 76ers have? I mean, Nerlens Noel, remember
1:37:22
him? I mean, he was an absolute bomb.
1:37:24
And everybody was like, oh, this guy's a must, must player in the
1:37:28
NBA. Yeah, he was a must player, all
1:37:29
right. He was all right with the
1:37:31
Knicks. Remember, the Knicks were before
1:37:33
they hired Leon Rose Ward to hire Elton Brand.
1:37:35
Thank God they died. He was all right.
1:37:36
I'm not going to say Nerlens Noel was a bad player, but he
1:37:39
wasn't a star in the NBA. He he was a top three pick.
1:37:42
I remember, I think he was #2 and some people thought he was
1:37:46
the best player in that class. And I was like, no, way too
1:37:50
skinny and too goofy. I want to, I want to say this, I
1:37:53
took shots at Webiyama over the last couple of years and I'll go
1:37:57
back and I'll protect that. I think Webiyama is a special
1:38:01
player. Michael Jordan, No.
1:38:04
What a special player. Can he stay healthy for the next
1:38:08
10 years to become a guy like Nicola Yokich or of that
1:38:13
magnitude, that kind of star? Now he's shown that he can be
1:38:17
that type of player. He could take over games,
1:38:19
rebound, block, do everything because he's so long and he has
1:38:23
an ability to ball, handle and shoot.
1:38:25
I'll say this about Cam Boozer, whoever drafts him, and I don't
1:38:30
know where he goes. Who are the top three teams
1:38:33
right now if the season were to end?
1:38:36
So it be the Kings, I the Hornets.
1:38:38
I forget who the third one is offhand.
1:38:39
You hope he doesn't go to Sacramento because everybody
1:38:42
dies in Sacramento. Nobody, nobody wants to go to
1:38:44
Sacramento. Halliburton was very lucky to
1:38:47
get out of Sacramento. Obviously Fox is very lucky to
1:38:52
get out of there. It didn't work out over there
1:38:54
with him, the two point guards, and so Bonus definitely wants to
1:38:57
get out of there. There's no doubt, no doubt in my
1:38:59
mind. Kings, Pacers, Nets, Pelicans,
1:39:02
Wizards. Could you imagine right now?
1:39:05
Could you imagine Cam Boozer to the Pacers?
1:39:07
Could you imagine that? Oh my God, could you imagine if
1:39:10
you're a Knick fan to have to contend with Hal Burton and
1:39:13
Cambuser for the next couple of years?
1:39:16
That would be absolutely sickness sickening if you're a,
1:39:20
you're a Knick fan. So and that could happen.
1:39:23
And, and UC Indiana, that's what they're doing.
1:39:24
They're doing everything they can to lose because they know
1:39:27
they have Hal Burton coming back next year and you get, you get
1:39:30
one of these top three guys, you're sitting pretty next year
1:39:34
going into a season. I'm not saying Indiana's going
1:39:36
to win a lottery pick. I'm sorry, a top three pick,
1:39:39
Because the chances of that happening the way the NBA works
1:39:43
is very slim to none. But knowing the NBA and how the
1:39:47
NBA works, they'll probably give Indiana one of these top three
1:39:50
picks and Cambusa will fall to them.
1:39:51
And I will hurl because I do not want to see Cambuser playing my
1:39:55
Knicks for the next 15 years and watching them completely
1:39:59
demolish him, especially when he develops, because he will.
1:40:02
Could you imagine him and Albertan?
1:40:05
Oh my God, it would make me sick to my stomach.
1:40:07
It's enough that I watched Indiana this year every time.
1:40:10
Indiana is a bad team, but when they play the next to a great
1:40:13
team, they always seem to play better against the Knicks out of
1:40:16
everybody. And Speaking of the Knicks, I'm
1:40:18
going to be working on something.
1:40:19
I'll be working on a Knicks show moving forward in the next
1:40:22
couple of months, so shout out to Maxine and Quran.
1:40:25
I'm going to be working with them and I'm excited because
1:40:28
it's going to help us. It's going to help them and me.
1:40:31
I think Quran is one of the most knowledgeable Nick guys in the
1:40:34
business. I watch this show religiously
1:40:37
now and he's so talented. He really is so excited to to to
1:40:42
move forward with them and and help, you know, both products.
1:40:45
So I'm very excited. So very.
1:40:47
I don't know what we're going to call it, ladies and gentlemen,
1:40:48
but it's going to be a Knicks show.
1:40:50
We're going to talk a little boxing too, because he knows his
1:40:52
boxing. I know my boxing.
1:40:54
So if you're a boxing fan, TuneIn, I'm sure it's going to
1:40:57
be a crazy one because we actually disagree on a lot of
1:40:59
things. So it'll be fun show anyways.
1:41:03
Speaking of fun, ladies and gentlemen, my golf clap of the
1:41:06
week. This deserves a golf clap.
1:41:10
No doubt. Golf.
1:41:11
Clap Golf. Clap.
1:41:14
All right, My golf clap of the week goes to United States gold.
1:41:20
Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time ever, the United
1:41:24
States have won more gold medals in an Olympic Games, and that
1:41:29
would be 12. They came in second place right
1:41:33
by right behind Norway, who won 18 gold medals, 12 silvers, 11
1:41:38
bronze for 41 medals for Norway, the United States 12 gold, 12
1:41:44
silvers, 9 bronzes for 33 total medals.
1:41:48
Right behind them, Italy with 30 total medals, 10 golds for them.
1:41:54
To me, the Olympics is is so great to watch and especially
1:41:57
getting a chance to see Team USA Hockey winning the gold medal
1:42:01
and knocking off Canada. It makes you feel good to be an
1:42:03
American, even makes you feel even more good when you watch
1:42:06
the figure skating. You watch the all the different
1:42:10
things, the curling, all the crazy things that we've watched
1:42:13
over the the last couple of weeks, snowboarding, skiing.
1:42:16
It's fun and you want to know something.
1:42:18
It's a great thing to see the United States dominate the way
1:42:22
they did in the Winter Olympics this year.
1:42:24
So my golf clap goes to United States and gold championship
1:42:32
wins. So my golf clap, ladies and
1:42:34
gentlemen, golf clap to United States gold.
1:42:37
Speaking of gold, when we come back, ladies and gentlemen, he
1:42:41
knows a little bit about gold. I, I know a lot about gold,
1:42:44
silver and bronze. I don't know.
1:42:46
I mean, I might not, I might be out of the middle counts with
1:42:49
this guy. We will be talking to former
1:42:51
Seahawks and Cowboys safety Ken the Hammer Hamlin.
1:42:55
But first, our sports minute with the fish.
1:43:00
Is the Jabba and the mouth sportsman ass?
1:43:04
All right, guys, Iron Fisherman here with your sportsman.
1:43:07
It got a couple of stories before we get into the scores
1:43:09
tonight. The NB as biggest agitator this
1:43:12
side of Draymond Green will be missing some time from the court
1:43:16
for the Phoenix Suns. ESP NS Sean Shirani reports on
1:43:18
Monday that forward Dylan Brooks will miss the next four to six
1:43:22
weeks with a. Broken left hand.
1:43:24
Brooks hurt the hand in Saturday's win over the Orlando
1:43:26
Magic. The Sun's got this bad news
1:43:28
after finding out star guard Devon Booker will miss at least
1:43:31
a week, also with a hip strain. Brooks, who is having his best
1:43:35
year in the NBA this season, has played a major role for the
1:43:38
surprising Suns, who are gunning for a playoff spot at eight
1:43:42
games over 500. Brooks is averaging about 21
1:43:45
points and four rebounds a game this year, upping his scoring
1:43:47
average almost 7 full points from last season.
1:43:51
Brooks, a frequent LeBron antagonist in his career already
1:43:54
has missed one game due to suspension this season after
1:43:57
receiving his 16th technical foul just the other day.
1:44:00
He will miss a bunch more for the Suns team that will struggle
1:44:04
to stay afloat without their breakthrough player and star
1:44:06
guard. ESP NS Adam Schefter reported on
1:44:10
Saturday that the Dallas Cowboys and free agent running back
1:44:13
Javante Williams agreed to a three-year deal for Javante to
1:44:17
stay in Jerry's world. Williams will get 16,000,000 of
1:44:21
his deal guaranteed and 5 million of it in a signing
1:44:25
bonus. Williams returns 26 before next
1:44:27
season excelled in his first season in Big D under coach
1:44:30
Brian Schottenheimer. Williams finished with 12101
1:44:34
yards from scrimmage on the ground with 11 rushing
1:44:37
touchdowns for the boys. After struggling with the
1:44:40
Broncos fighting off some bad knee injuries before cashing in
1:44:44
this season, the Cowboys are betting those injuries are
1:44:47
behind Williams as running backs with multiple knee surgeries
1:44:50
always hold up after they sign big contracts.
1:44:52
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1:44:54
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Speaking of the Hammer, well, he doesn't need an ovation.
1:47:07
And if he does, ladies and gentlemen, I could give it to
1:47:10
him. He's a first time caller, first
1:47:13
time guest on the show. Ladies and gentlemen, we are now
1:47:17
talking to former Seattle Seahawks and Dallas Cowboy
1:47:21
safety Ken the Hammer. Hamlin.
1:47:24
Ken, what's up, buddy? I'm.
1:47:25
Good, I'm good. How you doing like?
1:47:28
Shit happens, you know, I mean. Yes, indeed.
1:47:30
Like in Forrest Gump, you know, I don't know if that I trust
1:47:33
that story to be true, but hey, if it's true, you know, he's
1:47:36
made himself a lot of money. But Speaking of making yourself
1:47:39
a lot of money, somebody on the Cowboys did not make himself a
1:47:43
lot of money. As a matter of fact, he's no
1:47:44
longer with that the Cowboys. Why do you think the Cowboys
1:47:49
have not really found any cornerback help?
1:47:52
I mean, they had digs. He was there for a what, a
1:47:56
significant amount of time? He got a lot, a lot of money
1:47:58
from the Cowboys. Had one good season.
1:48:00
I think he had how many interceptions 7.
1:48:03
Interceptions 11/11 in that one year.
1:48:06
That one year, 11 interceptions, he was the one of the best
1:48:09
corners and and ball Hawks in the in the NFL and then after
1:48:13
that he was horrible. Well, he gambled on himself.
1:48:16
He took a lot of chances. If you look at that year, he he
1:48:21
gambled in in, in route like just guessing routes and he
1:48:25
guessed right a lot. But at the same time he gave up
1:48:27
a lot of yards as well. So it's going to look good when
1:48:30
you, when you make the Pro Bowl, you're all pro and everything
1:48:33
because you get the interceptions.
1:48:34
But you know, when you're playing that position, it was a
1:48:38
lot more of the, the downside than it was upside for him.
1:48:41
You know, especially moving forward past that year.
1:48:44
He got the payday which he gambled.
1:48:45
Well, he got the payday got got got 90 + 1,000,000, which you
1:48:51
know, of course you want to do at that position, you want to
1:48:54
get that payday because you never know if it's going to come
1:48:56
back around and in his case it might not come back around again
1:49:00
because because of the gamble. So he he gambled and won, but it
1:49:04
definitely didn't look good on on him being, you know, having
1:49:08
longevity on that squad. Well.
1:49:10
Speaking of longevity, and he gambled as his brother Stefan
1:49:14
Diggs with him and Cardi B. I'm just kidding.
1:49:16
I'll throw myself. I'll throw myself off that one.
1:49:19
I don't want to get myself into trouble, but.
1:49:21
Yeah, speaking. Speaking of corners right now in
1:49:24
the NFL, who do you think is the best corner in the NFL and why
1:49:27
do you think he's the best corner in the NFL?
1:49:29
That's that's kind of you. You got, you got the corner in
1:49:33
Denver, in Denver. Who is probably the most elite?
1:49:40
Patrick Tan. Right.
1:49:43
Sir Tan. Sir Tan.
1:49:45
Young Sir Tan, who's probably the the most elite young talent
1:49:50
you got another one in in New England, Gonzalez, who is he has
1:49:54
proven that he can be in that conversation a little bit
1:49:59
Stingley guys like Stingley. Stingley's in that conversation
1:50:04
too. I think.
1:50:05
I mean, of course, I put I think Stingley, he has a little lapse
1:50:09
here and there, but his game is is is up there with Gonzales and
1:50:14
with certain I certain. I think that they you got a good
1:50:18
four or five that are in that elite status.
1:50:23
And then you got some younger ones that are, you know, that
1:50:25
are that are making their name their their their name is
1:50:28
starting to ring a little bit more than you have to sort of
1:50:31
see is a is a is a sauce coming back to.
1:50:34
I was just going to say that what what's going on with Sauce
1:50:36
Garner? I mean, The Jets traded them for
1:50:39
two first round draft picks. I think they robbed the
1:50:41
Indianapolis Colts because as soon as he got traded, The Jets
1:50:44
got two first round draft picks and he was out after three games
1:50:47
and really did nothing for Indianapolis as they really they
1:50:52
they bet on themselves. They were felt.
1:50:54
Yeah, they were in that situation where they were like,
1:50:56
all right, we're we're looking at possibly making a run for the
1:50:58
playoffs. And everything went downhill
1:51:02
after that because Sauce got hurt, Dana Jones got hurt.
1:51:06
They had a lot of bad things happening for their squad.
1:51:09
Plus the offense didn't really produce outside of, you know,
1:51:13
you got a running back that you can get it to and JT, but
1:51:16
everything else wasn't as elite, especially later on in the
1:51:19
season. So they had a lot of things go
1:51:21
against them, you know, right after that trade.
1:51:23
So I think a healthy sauce in that in that defense, they got a
1:51:26
pretty good defense over there. So I think a healthy sauce next
1:51:29
year in that defense, you'll be able to see if they really got
1:51:32
something for what they gave up now for two first round picks.
1:51:37
That's tough, but you helped out a a a jet squad that needed a
1:51:42
lot of pics. They need a lot of help, so you
1:51:45
helped them. So it's almost like you gave you
1:51:48
gave your guy a little a little tip whatever to be able to get
1:51:51
some assistance because they needed it.
1:51:52
So you're bad. You're.
1:51:53
Hammering me in right now as as you know or you don't know, I'm
1:51:57
a jet fan. So keep hammering me in.
1:51:59
As we know we call you Ken the Hammer hammer.
1:52:02
If it's true, you might as well use me as a nail and just hammer
1:52:05
me in. You got.
1:52:07
Me. Hey, I mean, they, they made
1:52:09
something about it. I mean, outside of outside of
1:52:11
who knows who, who's going to be the quarterback, you know, I
1:52:15
mean, they, they, they, they got some, got a great stock.
1:52:19
Now I don't know what they're going to do with it, but with
1:52:22
the draft picks they, they've received, they, they have an
1:52:24
opportunity to really swing it a different way, But you have to
1:52:28
make a big decision. Aaron, Aaron Glenn is my guy
1:52:31
too. So I mean, I, I want him to make
1:52:33
a, a great move on this next one because your quarterback,
1:52:38
whoever you're bringing in to sort of hold on until you bring
1:52:41
that draft pick. It has to be the right one
1:52:43
because this past year it just didn't fit with who you brought
1:52:47
in with, who was actually organizing everything, the
1:52:50
coordinators, everything didn't fit well with the Justin Fields
1:52:53
situation. And that was it was bad to
1:52:56
watch. Say, at least it was.
1:52:58
It was definitely bad to watch, Yeah.
1:53:00
I want to go to your your time with the Cowboys.
1:53:02
You play with a easily Hall of Famer DeMarcus Ware.
1:53:04
You play with another good safety and Roy Williams over
1:53:06
there with the Cowboys and Wade Phillips.
1:53:08
Over there. As a as a head coach, maybe
1:53:10
wasn't the most amazing head coach, but amazing defensive
1:53:12
coordinator. Obviously his father was great
1:53:14
head coach too. What was that that experience
1:53:17
with the Cowboys like in those NFC East rivalries, when the NFC
1:53:19
East was probably at its peak? It was, it was, it was
1:53:22
definitely tough. I mean, you think about at that
1:53:24
time Washington wasn't a slack. You had the Giants who always
1:53:29
bringing it and then the Eagles. I mean, so if you had, you had
1:53:32
constant competition. And then Wade was a guy that was
1:53:37
quiet. But when it came to defense, he
1:53:39
knew. He knew how and what to put, you
1:53:41
know, put guys in position to win and guys in in positions to
1:53:45
make plays. Of course D Ware, I want to say
1:53:47
during that time, me and D Ware probably played the most steps
1:53:51
on defense. We didn't come out in my 3 years
1:53:54
there on the defensive side, Roy Williams.
1:53:57
I, I mean, when I signed, when I, when I got the opportunity to
1:54:01
actually join the Cowboys, that was the one big plus.
1:54:04
Like I get to play with, you know, alongside Roy Williams.
1:54:08
And I've, I've seen him from college at Oklahoma to, you
1:54:11
know, his early days in Dallas and then be able to join him.
1:54:16
It was amazing. Then you have you add in a
1:54:18
Terence Newman on one side, you you add in we had young guys who
1:54:22
had just drafted a year after with Mike Jenkins, Orlando
1:54:24
Scandrick, Anthony Henry was a veteran cornered a big corner
1:54:29
that we had as well. Greg Ellis, another guy that was
1:54:33
older guy, veteran, knew how to play the position and make
1:54:37
plays. Then the younger guys on the
1:54:38
inside, Marcus Spears. So you know, we had we had a
1:54:44
very talented team. It was a young team though,
1:54:47
regardless of experience wise, regardless of you know how much
1:54:51
talent they said, well, we made it to the playoffs.
1:54:53
I want to say that first year, you know, I want to say that I
1:54:56
might have been one of the few that actually had long playoff
1:55:00
experience. And yeah, I was in my fifth
1:55:02
year. So so it was it was tough to see
1:55:06
a team like that not exceed, you know, a lot of the, you know,
1:55:10
where we ended up, you know, when we get to the playoffs and
1:55:14
in the season, because we could have been a team that made a
1:55:17
long run for it. But but we've seen it during the
1:55:21
game, certain certain time, we didn't have that lasting peace
1:55:25
to really put people away and and make the next move to the
1:55:30
next level. So it was, it was it was a
1:55:33
great, great time and great experience with some great guys.
1:55:35
But we definitely left left some games on the on the field that
1:55:39
we should have been, we should have been in.
1:55:41
We are talking to former Seahawks and Cowboy safety Ken
1:55:44
the Hammer. Hamlin.
1:55:46
Kenny, you were drafted by the Seattle Seahawks in the second
1:55:49
round, 42nd overall in 2003. Tell us a little bit about the
1:55:53
Seahawks organization. What was it like playing over
1:55:56
there for the three years? What type of fans are there out
1:56:00
there with the Seattle Seattle Seahawks fans?
1:56:02
Listen, you you have to they're going to be if you can find me
1:56:06
another another fan base that is that is on that level, then then
1:56:10
we can we can have that conversation.
1:56:12
But I think that the Seahawks from from back when I played
1:56:16
even to today, they still hold true to being one of the one of
1:56:21
the stadiums that is a real fan favorite type of stadium.
1:56:25
They they come with it. This is not one of them where
1:56:28
you got a whole bunch of corporate people sitting in the
1:56:30
stands and they're just sitting back enjoying some drinks and
1:56:33
watching the game. They're they're there to, to,
1:56:35
to, to make a difference. They're there to to cause havoc
1:56:39
and to cause confusion for for the other team.
1:56:41
So it, it, it is an exciting stadium to play in.
1:56:47
The fans are are definitely committed to the team and to the
1:56:50
players. And you know, it was, I mean, it
1:56:53
was amazing. My first, my first year going
1:56:55
there and sort of seeing the guy from Arkansas who's who's been
1:57:00
who's from Memphis and then coming to the Northwest and then
1:57:03
seeing just the just the the crowd appreciation of what they
1:57:08
they felt I could bring to the table for, for the Seahawks was
1:57:11
amazing. 2007 was a big year for you.
1:57:14
You, you went to your first and only pro ball.
1:57:16
What type of season was that with the Dallas Cowboys and why
1:57:20
did you play at a top level from all the other years that you you
1:57:24
you did play at a level that was sensational, but not at that
1:57:27
kind of level at a pro ball style game.
1:57:29
Well, I think it was I think it was a prove it season.
1:57:33
You know, I I came off of some craziness that happened to me in
1:57:37
Seattle and and almost where my career was over with very short.
1:57:44
So this this was my my year to prove it to myself, prove it to
1:57:49
the coaches, the owners, Jerry and everybody that I that I
1:57:53
could play this game and play it, you know, play it longer
1:57:56
than then. Then you know what people that
1:57:59
some had expected because just a year prior to that, I mean, I
1:58:02
was almost I was told that I wouldn't play again.
1:58:04
So it was a lot leading into that, that that first year in
1:58:09
Dallas to where I'm not OK, I have an opportunity to prove
1:58:13
that, you know what, I belong here.
1:58:14
I belong in the game. I belong a starter.
1:58:17
I there's a lot of different things.
1:58:18
And so that year was just a grinded out.
1:58:22
It was a fun year because of course you got all these, it's
1:58:25
almost like, you know, you get a new car, you got all the new
1:58:28
toys. So you had all these other guys
1:58:29
you could play with and, and to play alongside.
1:58:33
Like I said, a guy like Will Williams, where I can, I can see
1:58:36
where he can add value to my game.
1:58:38
I can add value to his game. And we could play it a certain
1:58:41
way with the corners that we had and the communication that we
1:58:44
had on the back end. And then, of course, the, the,
1:58:48
the biggest, I guess bonus was having Todd Bowles in my, in my,
1:58:52
in my office, in our room, in our meeting room, him being our
1:58:55
DB coach, you know, the tidbits that he would give us, the
1:58:59
different tips and different things that he would give us
1:59:02
from a guy that's coming from a player player, you know,
1:59:05
background. He knew certain things that we
1:59:08
would be looking for. He knew certain things that
1:59:10
would give us keys in the game to really take it away from now.
1:59:14
Now we're not thinking anymore. Now we're not out here waiting
1:59:17
for this to happen that once we see our keys, we're gone.
1:59:20
And that made that year. I mean, it made it fun because
1:59:24
now you can play a little bit more free.
1:59:26
Now it's just not, you're just not just a free safety.
1:59:29
You're, you're back there able to make plays and, and go in and
1:59:32
sort of cause 'cause chaos in certain areas.
1:59:35
So that that year was very exciting and it was just a, a
1:59:40
loose year of and let's show it like let's go like it's, it's
1:59:44
everything's on the line. Let's go get it and and it
1:59:47
proved in the stats defensively as a team, we were we were
1:59:51
better. You know, I got I made plays we
1:59:54
had in that year we had I want to say it ended up being like 11
2:00:00
guys in the Pro Bowl on that team.
2:00:02
I'm. Looking at him right now.
2:00:04
Yeah, Yeah. So so to think like, you know,
2:00:09
all the guys from all these different, you know, areas, I
2:00:12
mean on the offensive side in every level, on the defensive
2:00:15
side, in every level, you know, guy stepped it up and we made we
2:00:18
made plays. Both of our safeties, me and Roy
2:00:20
were in the Pro Bowl. You had D wearing Greg Ellis,
2:00:23
both of our ends, they're in the Pro Bowl.
2:00:24
You I mean, so it was it was exciting to sort of see Terrence
2:00:30
Newman in the Pro Bowl. I mean we had we had a lot of
2:00:33
guys on the defensive side alone that, you know, they were
2:00:36
making, they were making some great plays and and and helping
2:00:39
me on front end. Greg and DeMarcus where helping
2:00:42
me make plays on the back end. The same thing vice versa.
2:00:45
So it was an exciting year, so. I'm going to go to the Super
2:00:48
Bowl run you had in Seattle in O5O6.
2:00:50
Actually my first full year watching football that year.
2:00:53
Your secondary probably not getting the same level of hype
2:00:55
that the last two have, but you still have some good players.
2:00:58
Well. Dion Grant was your partner on
2:01:00
the other side who later came to the Giants and played very well
2:01:02
over there at an older age. And then a guy that was supposed
2:01:04
to come on our show last year and gave me his e-mail and then
2:01:07
ditched us was Marcus Trufant as one of the corners.
2:01:10
So. So what was that season like as
2:01:12
a whole for you at that defensive core?
2:01:14
If we're talking about the O 6 O7 Super Bowl against
2:01:18
Pittsburgh, are we talking about an elderly one where I was?
2:01:23
Because so I was a part of the, the Pittsburgh Seattle year of
2:01:29
Super Bowl and that was the year I had my injury and it ended up
2:01:34
missing the remainder of the season.
2:01:36
So that was, that was a very tough one because you, you saw
2:01:42
how they, how they, I'm on the sideline watching how they're
2:01:46
attacking us and in the position that I would have been, you
2:01:50
know, and you know, we had a younger guy we had at that time,
2:01:55
we were down to Super Bowl week. We were down to our practice
2:01:59
squad safety and one of the safety positions.
2:02:02
He never played all year. He was a practice squad all
2:02:04
year. And he was, he prepared the week
2:02:07
of he's preparing for the biggest game of anybody's career
2:02:12
and to never have played all, all year.
2:02:13
So that was a tough one to watch and sort of see how they, they
2:02:17
took advantage of that opportunity a little bit.
2:02:18
But but again, that that just shows, you know, you got to have
2:02:23
you got to have everybody ready to go.
2:02:25
You got to have everybody regardless of first string,
2:02:27
second string, third string, everybody has to be ready to go
2:02:29
because the opportunity might be there and you have an
2:02:32
opportunity to really make a name for yourself in that type
2:02:34
of moment. So, but yeah, we came up short.
2:02:37
It it, it, it sort of stuck in me a little bit because of me
2:02:42
not being there. So he put another chip on my
2:02:46
shoulder. We are talking to former
2:02:47
Seahawks and Cowboy safety Ken the Hammer Hamlin Kenny Seattle
2:02:53
goes all the way to the Super Bowl this year and made an
2:02:55
unbelievable run. Sam Darnold, who was seeing
2:02:58
ghost in New York, he's jump shipped on quite a few other
2:03:02
organizations before he landed in this spot, signed a
2:03:04
three-year, $100 million contract and boy, oh boy.
2:03:08
McDonald, who I thought was coach of the year of the team,
2:03:10
defense, offense. I mean, this team was completely
2:03:14
the most dominant team in the NFC and I think throughout the
2:03:17
league went really just drove right to the the Super Bowl and
2:03:21
ran over the the New England Patriots.
2:03:25
When you look at this team and you try to compare them to the
2:03:28
Legion of Boom, that team, the Russell Wilson team when they
2:03:32
just went into New York and knocked off the Broncos and and
2:03:35
probably the best offensive team at that point the NFL has ever
2:03:38
seen. How do you compare these teams
2:03:41
and who do you think would win if they played against one?
2:03:43
Another he tried to. Cause some chaos.
2:03:48
You know what defense, so let me say defensively, that's tough
2:03:56
because you think about, you know, I think that the one thing
2:03:59
about that that LL that that legion of legion of both that
2:04:03
that team had a full secondary. Now this team, this this current
2:04:08
Seahawks team has a hell of a hell of a secondary as well.
2:04:11
But I mean, you think about having you, you got, you got 2
2:04:17
all pro safeties, you know, one if not 2 all pro corners on that
2:04:23
squad. And then you, you look at this
2:04:25
current team, they, they are, they are close.
2:04:28
I wouldn't say they're close. They're very, very simple
2:04:31
defensively, very similar. I think that this current squad
2:04:34
has a more dominant front 4, But but that squad, it is where they
2:04:40
had a dump like the defensively. I can't even say that one or the
2:04:43
other. I, I, I think that they, they
2:04:45
showed up this, this current Seahawks defense, I mean, they
2:04:48
literally I, I got to see it first hand on they are, they are
2:04:52
very dominant. They, they can play it a lot of
2:04:55
different ways. They can stop the run.
2:04:58
They definitely on the back end. You don't want to take too many
2:05:00
chances in the past game because they have speed and skill.
2:05:04
So defensively I I it's almost I'd have to say a wash, but I
2:05:07
would give the older the the veterans a a little edge
2:05:12
offensively got rust. And then you have Sam Donald who
2:05:15
who's coming in on the he had to prove it because because of last
2:05:20
year and how he didn't really put seed all the way through
2:05:23
through the playoffs, but he came in.
2:05:25
You have you use your weapons, you got JSN, you have a tight
2:05:30
ends, the tight ends that you can use the big body receivers
2:05:33
that you have a running game. And that was the one thing that
2:05:36
I said about especially going into these playoffs with, with
2:05:40
the a quarterback that you know has played great, but you still,
2:05:44
you still got to wonder what's going to happen in the playoffs.
2:05:47
You lean on your running game. I mean, listen, nobody takes it
2:05:51
away from you that that you didn't have 304 hundred yards
2:05:55
passing. If you win the Super Bowl, you
2:05:57
still win the Super Bowl. But if you go out there and try
2:05:59
to prove people wrong and making bad decisions as any other and
2:06:03
throw a couple picks and lose the Super Bowl, then that's a
2:06:05
whole other thing. They led and they they went
2:06:08
behind a great running, running attack.
2:06:11
You got the offensive line making, making holes for this
2:06:13
guy. I mean, Kenneth Walker was
2:06:15
running like he had to run. You didn't have your back up.
2:06:20
He didn't have Charbonnet with it to to really do that 1-2
2:06:23
tandem. He took it on his back and he
2:06:25
went, we went with it and that's why he got the MVP.
2:06:28
But I think that this these teams are similar in a lot of
2:06:30
ways, but I'd hate to compare them and try to match one or the
2:06:34
other. Come on, it would come on.
2:06:38
It would be a hell of a game. OK, you know what I'd have to
2:06:41
say? The elder.
2:06:42
The elder team would beat the younger.
2:06:43
Team all right, That's fair. I had to say that all.
2:06:47
Right. I disagree with you.
2:06:49
I, I think that this younger team and I, I think McDonald is
2:06:53
a younger Pete Carroll version. I mean, they're very similar.
2:06:56
Marshawn Lynch and Walker, I mean, he, he made his best
2:06:59
impression in the Super Bowl running all over that defensive
2:07:03
line, probably the second best defensive line in football.
2:07:06
Walker ran all over them and and he did his best version of
2:07:09
Marshawn Lynch, who has done it. But is he Marshawn?
2:07:13
Not yet, is he? Not OK so so so if we're talking
2:07:17
about their playing this week, then they.
2:07:19
Would they? They never had a guy.
2:07:22
They never had a guy like JSN. So no, they've never had a
2:07:26
dominant force like that. And Cooper?
2:07:29
Cups. Cooper cups pretty damn good
2:07:31
too. Exactly.
2:07:32
I and I wanted to see that game, so I went to the I was able to
2:07:36
go to the game against the Rams and I wanted to see JSN up
2:07:41
close. I wanted to see and of course I
2:07:44
wanted to see Puka up close too, because I wanted to see what the
2:07:46
challenge will be for that, that defense against Puka, But I
2:07:49
wanted to see what it looked like up close.
2:07:51
So I'm like this guy makes it look easy.
2:07:54
I mean, JSN makes it look easy. It's not like he's like
2:07:59
overstretching and you know, pushing it and everything is in
2:08:03
rhythm. It's a it's a smooth it is, I
2:08:07
mean it, it's almost poetic the way that he sit there and runs
2:08:10
his routes and and knows when to put his hands up and knows how
2:08:13
to how to move his body this way that it, it, it's, it's great to
2:08:16
see and it's great that he is a young talent that they're going
2:08:20
to have on that squad for quite some time.
2:08:22
Because of course they're going to shore him up early.
2:08:25
They're going to get him out of the way early, which they need
2:08:29
to a couple of guys. They got to get done early to
2:08:31
get him out of the way. But that's going to be, that's
2:08:34
going to be an amazing team that's going to be able to make
2:08:36
another run for it in the very near future.
2:08:40
Speaking of future Jerry Jones, this is a guy that I think has
2:08:46
saved football. I don't care what anybody says
2:08:48
about Jerry. I know he he's run the
2:08:51
organization down to the ground, some people say, but this is a
2:08:54
guy that saved football. He's the one who brought
2:08:57
football new sponsorships and and pretty much try to sell the
2:09:01
NFL. This is what I'm going to do.
2:09:03
I'm going to bring a sneaker deal into the NFL and you can't
2:09:06
stop me. If you try to stop me, I'm going
2:09:08
to sue you back. And that's what he did.
2:09:10
And if you never checked out the Netflix documentary, it is a
2:09:14
great documentary. Can I, I know you checked it out
2:09:17
because you were you were a cowboy at that time and and you
2:09:21
actually know who Jerry Jones is.
2:09:22
What type of owner is Jerry Jones?
2:09:24
Tell the fans what type of personality is he off the field.
2:09:30
I've been knowing Jerry ever since I was at University of
2:09:32
Arkansas, so it's been quite some time, but he is it it.
2:09:39
Most people don't understand it because they've been accustomed
2:09:42
to seeing owners who never played the game actually played
2:09:46
the game at a high level. Like, I mean, he was, he's a
2:09:49
national champion in college football.
2:09:51
Like he played the game, was a starter for multiple years.
2:09:56
Like, so this guy has a different type of motive behind
2:09:59
it. He has a different type of
2:10:00
motive behind it. He, he actually wants to and
2:10:04
feels like wanting to be out on the field.
2:10:05
I think so many people are like, Oh, well, he, you know, he, he,
2:10:09
he's too involved and he's just any other.
2:10:11
Well, I would say sometimes whatever, that's a good thing.
2:10:15
Because I mean, and, and again, there's some decisions that
2:10:18
could be made here and there that that, you know, taking a
2:10:22
back seat on. You can see it at a different
2:10:24
view. And he could possibly do that at
2:10:26
times to where it could make it a better thing.
2:10:29
But I think that Jerry has done a lot for the game leading up to
2:10:35
these last whatever 5 or 10 years to where his legacy is, is
2:10:39
definitely it's definitely written now what he does with
2:10:44
the remainder and how he's trying to live it out and and
2:10:46
push to get another title if possible.
2:10:49
Who knows what strings he's going to pull now.
2:10:52
But I think that what he's done for the actual game of football
2:10:55
and for the for the you think about the ownership, I mean, and
2:10:59
what they what they have, they have, you know, maybe not even
2:11:03
taking credit for it, But what they get behind what he's done,
2:11:08
they definitely, even if it might be quietly, they
2:11:10
definitely they definitely do throw one of them a little fist
2:11:13
up or fist pumps up for Jerry because of what he's done for
2:11:16
the game and how he's moved it along.
2:11:17
So I. Want to go to the safety
2:11:19
position, which I think when you played it wasn't and I are
2:11:22
seeing a little more of those hybrid types now in today's
2:11:25
game. For one, you play you,
2:11:26
obviously. Oh yeah.
2:11:27
Yeah, you were. You were playing an arrow with a
2:11:29
lot of the zone coverage. I think your scheme especially
2:11:31
was like that, that Tampa 2 type style safety.
2:11:33
Now you're seeing a lot more of those more versatile types of
2:11:36
safeties. What are you?
2:11:37
What are your thoughts, the way the safety position has
2:11:40
developed really in this newer era of football?
2:11:43
Well, I mean you can call it the left developed.
2:11:47
The biggest thing is that, you know, offenses are going
2:11:50
heavier, you know, 3434 wide. So you have to have, you know,
2:11:58
now you're putting a lot of your corners who would be true
2:12:00
corners at the time, whatever. Now you're working them in at
2:12:03
safety. You're playing them at that
2:12:04
position because you know, the game is not what it was.
2:12:07
I mean, you, you don't have to, you know, these, all these big
2:12:12
hits that were once happening aren't happening like that
2:12:15
anymore. It all the all the different
2:12:17
physicalities of the game is a little bit different now.
2:12:20
It's more about having the range and the speed and the, and, and
2:12:23
the quickness to be able to do. Let me put you out here on on
2:12:27
this third receiver. Let me put you out on this
2:12:29
fourth receiver. Let me let you play this zone
2:12:31
area. But it's what quicker receivers
2:12:34
now. So there's different schemes in
2:12:35
it. I think that we, we, you know,
2:12:39
we look at the game now and and just see it at a different
2:12:42
there. There isn't that one back that's
2:12:43
running for, you know, 262730 carries and he's your bell cow
2:12:49
and just going to get it. There's a 2-3 back system.
2:12:52
You got 3 to 4 wides non-stop. And then and then it's a quicker
2:12:56
game as well. Guys are are moving, are moving
2:12:59
the ball a little bit faster. So there's different things that
2:13:02
has changed the game to make it more appeasable for the offense
2:13:05
for sure. And and it it it sort of
2:13:09
handicaps the defense, especially on the back end a lot
2:13:12
more because you can't, you can't jam multiple times.
2:13:16
You can't hit past the five. You can't, I mean, even the
2:13:20
little the little tugs award, the defense is going to lose.
2:13:23
So there's certain things that that has changed.
2:13:25
But I would say the skill, the skill of the corner has to be
2:13:30
better, the skill of of the guy that's covering it, it has to be
2:13:33
way better because of the limitations that you have.
2:13:36
You have to be dialed in 100%. Your footwork has to be great
2:13:40
and your hand placement has to be great because you you have to
2:13:44
be precise with everything or these guys are making a catch.
2:13:47
You can't hit them as soon as they as soon as they catch the
2:13:49
ball because of the defensive defenseless rule.
2:13:54
So which I still don't get how the hell somebody's on the field
2:13:58
and you get the balls on the and you defenseless.
2:14:00
But I mean, hey, it is what it is.
2:14:03
The game has moved on past me and past that time, so you got
2:14:06
to adjust with what's going on right now.
2:14:08
Ken, Speaking of the game, I mean, a lot of people were
2:14:11
shocked and and tell me if you can give me a hammer so I can
2:14:15
nail this in to why the committee knows or doesn't know
2:14:19
what they're doing. How does Bill Belichick not be
2:14:23
inducted into the Hall of Fame as a first ballot Hall of Famer?
2:14:26
The greatest I would argue I can't stand Bill Belichick.
2:14:28
He he coached the Patriots. I'm a Jet fan.
2:14:31
I couldn't stand him. He chose 24 hours to leave The
2:14:34
Jets to go and sign with the Patriots.
2:14:37
And then we see this 2223 year, just absolute dominance of the
2:14:42
New England Patriots. It is all because of this guy.
2:14:45
He's the one who drafted, yeah, Tom Brady.
2:14:46
He's the one who built these teams and built these rosters.
2:14:49
And this guy should be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
2:14:51
How does the committee decide? Well, he's not good enough for
2:14:54
us. Let's wait until next year.
2:14:56
Does does this make? Any sense to you?
2:14:58
It makes zero sense. You have guys who never put a
2:15:01
jersey on, who never, who never coach played umm.
2:15:04
You have guys who are making this decision that that
2:15:07
shouldn't be making a decision, not for it, not for this.
2:15:11
I look at the Hall of Fame and I, I might look at it
2:15:14
differently than some of the other guys too.
2:15:16
I, I feel like if you, if you are the elite of the elite in,
2:15:20
in your group for a certain span of time, then yes, you get to
2:15:25
nod and you get to nod quickly. Because right now, when you make
2:15:27
a move like that and don't put Belichick in, then you're
2:15:29
basically telling me that Tom Brady's not a first ballot Hall
2:15:32
of Famer because of whatever the reasoning behind that squad and,
2:15:37
and, and Belichick not getting it then then then he can't get
2:15:42
in. Then the owner can't.
2:15:43
So nobody should be getting in from, from, from this team,
2:15:46
especially not first ballot owner shouldn't get first ballot
2:15:50
coach, not first ballot player, not first ballot because of
2:15:53
whatever the reasoning behind it.
2:15:55
But there there's question marks on so many people in the league
2:15:59
on different legal and, and, and, and field type and, and off
2:16:03
the field. There could be.
2:16:05
You can sit there and look at a lot of people and say, you know
2:16:07
what, they shouldn't be in. But if we're talking about what
2:16:09
they did for the game, how they impacted the game, how they were
2:16:14
the elite of the elite at a certain span of time in the
2:16:17
game, then you have to say that Belichick was that craft.
2:16:20
Is that Tom Brady? Is that so Gronk is not first
2:16:23
batter you'll be like this. Then you have to basically
2:16:26
tilter it all the way down to all of them.
2:16:28
Now everybody gets affected from that because you saying that
2:16:31
this guy isn't, but this guy was in the same regime as, as, as
2:16:36
the one you say is the greatest of all time.
2:16:39
So you got to be careful with that and and these personal
2:16:42
vendettas of, of why you don't want to bring him in.
2:16:46
I had the same situation. Not for me, but when, when I
2:16:50
look at Terrell Owens and Terrell Owens and you know, him
2:16:54
not getting first ballot, but you have a guy, you have a guy
2:16:58
like Calvin Johnson that gets first ballot.
2:16:59
I mean, are we not looking at, you know, just the body of work,
2:17:02
the, the, the and then just what he it just it just it just
2:17:07
didn't make any sense or whatever.
2:17:08
And this is what you'll get when you have people who you when you
2:17:12
don't even have a say as a player or as an organization
2:17:15
that so they should have it to where maybe you have the media
2:17:18
to do it, but you've got the the current Hall of Fame guys should
2:17:21
be able to have a say as well. You played against a lot of
2:17:24
great wide receivers and I'm sure a lot of them spoke and and
2:17:28
spoke like really like to talk on the football field.
2:17:32
Tell me the guy that spoke the most as far as wide receivers
2:17:35
that. Pissed you off?
2:17:36
One and #2 Who's the best wide receiver one-on-one you ever
2:17:40
played against? Well, I think the one, the one
2:17:43
person that most would say that I had the most problems with
2:17:48
when it comes to just on the field after the play, it would
2:17:53
be, it'd be Isaac Bruce. We had our beefs, we had our, we
2:17:59
had our during the play, after the play, all ongoing year after
2:18:04
year to the point where every week and of course in Seattle,
2:18:07
we play them twice a year, but every week they're they're,
2:18:11
they're, they're on our schedule.
2:18:14
Our equipment guys will put his pictures up in my locker, all
2:18:17
this different stuff. So I show up to work with all
2:18:19
this stuff because they knew what was about to happen in the
2:18:22
game. And so I would say that's one
2:18:25
that became a problem and then the toughest to face.
2:18:31
One-on-one, who was the. Guy, I would say early in my
2:18:35
career, oh man, that's tough to say.
2:18:38
That's a tough one. I could go young Larry
2:18:43
Fitzgerald, I could go middle of his career, Steve Smith, Stan
2:18:51
Santana, Moss, little guy, of course, the the Holt and the
2:18:56
Tori, the Tori Holt and and Isaac Bruce combination with the
2:18:59
Rams. And then you add Marshall Faulk
2:19:02
into that situation. You're about to give me PTSD,
2:19:07
but I'm about to get PSTD, whatever the crazy is, whatever.
2:19:11
Because I'm starting to think about all these different PTSD,
2:19:14
think about all these different guys that I had to face.
2:19:16
I'm surprised nobody's asked you that question.
2:19:19
That's crazy. I think about it that that is AI
2:19:22
mean. We we've had quite AI mean
2:19:25
sheet. I have run insurance with AI
2:19:28
mean and then just the combinations, you know, the the
2:19:31
Reggie Wayne Marvin and Marvin Harrison in in in Indianapolis.
2:19:39
Of course, the Rams situation is already documented.
2:19:42
But then you think of, then you think of big boys, Gonzalez,
2:19:47
Tony Gonzalez, you know, at Kansas City and in Atlanta, my
2:19:52
man at good Lord, I just lost his name that played for the
2:19:55
Chargers, Antonio Gates, tight end Antonio Gates.
2:20:00
Yeah, Antonio Gates, it's another guy, the younger, you
2:20:05
know, you think of like Jeremy shocking those guys.
2:20:07
Whatever. You had a favor we had.
2:20:08
I mean, I had combination of players where it's like, you
2:20:11
know, all right, this is gonna be a problem.
2:20:13
Tori Holt, not in the Hall of Fame, Reggie Wayne, not in the
2:20:16
Hall of Fame, All these guys that you mentioned, not in the
2:20:19
Hall of Fame. How does this make sense?
2:20:23
I mean, it just Larry, Larry just got in on his first on his
2:20:27
first ballot. Well deserved, no question, no
2:20:31
question. But it's going to be it's going
2:20:37
to be hard. And, and because now they're
2:20:41
they're doing this where they, they've cut the numbers or how
2:20:44
many are going to go in. So I don't know what makes them
2:20:48
decide that that's the number of people per year, but it's a lot,
2:20:52
it's a lot of deserving and it's a.
2:20:54
How about I go to the Hall of Fame?
2:20:55
I mean, who, who, who cares? I I mean, they don't know who I
2:20:59
am. I'll just go as a, you know, a
2:21:01
broadcaster that nobody knows or hasn't heard of yet.
2:21:05
Hey, I should go into the Hall of Fame, right?
2:21:07
Now you're on your way, but you're on your way.
2:21:10
I want to tell you something so you know, Ken, we were ranked 56
2:21:14
in the country, in all of the country when it comes to shows
2:21:18
on Apple and Spotify today. Just so you know, Hey, I'll give
2:21:22
you a pound. I'll give.
2:21:23
You a pound? Hey, give.
2:21:24
You a pound? Yeah, Yeah.
2:21:26
That's pretty fun. It's pretty.
2:21:27
Crazy, So you are on your way. We're on our way.
2:21:29
Yes, we're on our way. There we go, there we.
2:21:32
Go I don't want to sing anything song.
2:21:34
We're all for the rainbow. I don't want to scare anybody
2:21:38
with that, but you know if I'm over the rainbow yet, Yes, there
2:21:43
is a light at the end of the tunnel, but we are right.
2:21:45
There's a light. Yeah, there is a light.
2:21:47
And Speaking of the light, I need a hammer and we've got you.
2:21:51
So if you need anybody to knock somebody out because I'm, you
2:21:55
know, I could do it myself, but I need a bodyguard.
2:21:57
I'll go to Kenny the Hammer. Hammer.
2:22:00
We need the hammer knock Rick D Pietro on the head.
2:22:02
I mean, I think I think that's true.
2:22:05
That's true too. But as, as far as my I'm
2:22:07
concerned, when when Woollen was doing the stupid stuff on on the
2:22:11
field when it when it came to the Rams, I'm sure you wanted to
2:22:14
give him the hammer because he almost cost the Seattle Seahawks
2:22:17
an opportunity to play in the Super Bowl.
2:22:18
So let me tell. You something?
2:22:20
Yeah. Woollen needs to keep himself,
2:22:22
you know, and he's going to make himself a lot of money this
2:22:24
offseason, if it's not from Seattle, from somebody else.
2:22:27
But Seattle's going. To no for sure.
2:22:28
Yeah, he's going to make himself a lot of.
2:22:30
Money they they got to pay Witherspoon, so it's going to be
2:22:33
tough to pay both of them. But Witherspoon, he's going to
2:22:36
get probably the bigger, bigger deal.
2:22:38
I mean, that's first three years in the league, 3 Pro Bowls
2:22:42
back-to-back to back. Yeah, you're going to you're
2:22:44
going to get it. You're going to get some
2:22:46
attention with that one. So we're going to see how they
2:22:48
can work it all the way out with all the guys they have to sign.
2:22:50
Isaac Bruce did get it in 2020, but.
2:22:53
Isaac got in Tori Tori. Tori Holt didn't get it.
2:22:55
Honestly, if you were to ask me who was better, Isaac Bruce or
2:22:59
Tori Holt, I'm telling you, Tori Holt.
2:23:00
No offense to Isaac Bruce, Tori Holt was the better wide
2:23:04
receiver and with those championship teams, he was
2:23:07
impossible to defend. So he was that guy that you just
2:23:11
told Tori go out there and get the ball and he would go out
2:23:14
there and get. The ball, it was a problem, yes.
2:23:15
So. It was a problem.
2:23:16
I couldn't stand watching the Rams in those times and they got
2:23:20
robbed. Obviously, Spygate, this team
2:23:22
should have won multiple championships with Kurt Warner
2:23:26
and the type of talent that they had over there, so it was
2:23:29
horrible. It was horrible to see.
2:23:31
Yeah, I mean, come on, man. I I think that Rams team could
2:23:34
have competed against anybody of this time and even pastime type
2:23:40
of teams and and that offensive line, I mean, ridiculous.
2:23:43
That's good. Orlando Pace, remember him?
2:23:45
I mean that guy. Was yes, he was a wall.
2:23:49
He was a wall. Incredible.
2:23:50
So, but Kenny, we enjoyed your interview.
2:23:54
Let's get you on again. Let's let's interact with you
2:23:58
and I love your takes with the Bill Belichick in and obviously
2:24:02
pastime. I'm Jerry Jones.
2:24:03
I I stick up for Jerry Jones on the show all the time because I
2:24:06
don't think people understand as much as you want to hate the
2:24:09
Cowboys, you of course you're going to point the organization
2:24:12
at Jerry Jones, but this is a guy that saved football.
2:24:15
He changed football with endorsements and and money.
2:24:19
All the football endorsements that the NFL and sponsorships
2:24:22
the NFL is getting. It's all because of Jerry.
2:24:25
It's all because of Jerry. Nobody else just like baseball
2:24:28
was saved by George, George Steinbrenner.
2:24:30
George Steinbrenner should be in the Hall of Fame, but he's not.
2:24:32
But but Celic is after him throwing people under the bus or
2:24:36
not sticking up for the steroid era.
2:24:38
So I, I don't understand it. I don't get it.
2:24:41
But guess what? That's why I talk.
2:24:43
That's why I speak about sports, and that's why I'm a broadcaster
2:24:46
and that's why I handle it in many different ways.
2:24:49
And I give them a nice hammer. And if I had a hammer a big
2:24:53
enough. Hammer, There we go.
2:24:55
I'd be beating them all up. Beating them all up because they
2:24:58
deserve a nice little nail in their coffin.
2:25:01
You know what I mean? It was funny.
2:25:03
It was funny. Last year we actually had a guy
2:25:04
who also played for the Seahawks and Cowboys, After Your Time and
2:25:07
Robert Turbid. And this was before Errol saw
2:25:09
the documentary. He was trying to defend Jerry
2:25:11
Jones and Errol actually attack you at that.
2:25:13
Time a couple. Months later, he saw the
2:25:14
documentary. I didn't realize how important
2:25:18
Jerry Jones was to the NFLII. Really didn't know I was young.
2:25:23
So I was a football fan and I I was a Jet fan and, and I watched
2:25:27
football. I also rooted for the Eagles
2:25:28
because I was a Donovan McNabb fan.
2:25:30
So I didn't really see what Jerry did behind the scenes.
2:25:33
And then when I got a chance to watch the documentary and see
2:25:36
how he and yes, he ran Johnson out and maybe if Johnson was
2:25:40
still there, they win more championships, that quite
2:25:43
possibly could have happened. But nevertheless, he is the one
2:25:47
that redefined what the league has become these days.
2:25:52
Take it take take whatever shot you want of him.
2:25:55
He is the reason why football is where it is today.
2:25:57
So Kenny, we really appreciate the time as always and we're
2:26:01
looking forward to getting you on once again.
2:26:04
Kenny the Hammer, Hamlin, ladies and ladies and gentlemen, give
2:26:08
him a golf clap. Ladies and gentlemen, he was
2:26:11
fantastic as always. We always get great guests.
2:26:14
Speaking of fantasticness, we got Speedy 6 Pack of the week.
2:26:20
Let's have a sixer. Hey, who wants to play Drink the
2:26:23
Beer? It's time for the Speedy 6 pack
2:26:26
of the week. That was great.
2:26:30
Kenny Hamlin is great. He really is.
2:26:33
Yes, indeed, and. Thank you Nif, he was fantastic.
2:26:38
Wish you got a chance to bring up your your graphic for one
2:26:40
more time. I know how much you.
2:26:42
Busy all day today. You did like this graphic, so
2:26:45
yeah, if we talk about the men's hockey, obviously the biggest
2:26:47
gold medal. Earlier, I am a legend.
2:26:49
US, like Errol saying in the Golf Club, they had a lot of
2:26:52
other ones, One that we saw on Thursday.
2:26:53
We'll start with in Alicia Liu with first women's individual
2:26:57
gold medal since Sarah Hughes back in 2002, someone that were
2:27:00
just retired in 2022 after their the Beijing.
2:27:03
What a story by the. Way an amazing storyline fending
2:27:06
off a couple really tough high scores in that individual
2:27:10
program for the women's, but Alicia Liu really making Olympic
2:27:13
history and seems to be one of the most likable Olympians on on
2:27:16
that team as well. Special Think about it.
2:27:18
She had to be perfect in a short program and her long program to
2:27:22
win because there were so many good you young skaters and and
2:27:27
she was up there and she wasn't even out of all three American
2:27:30
skaters, she wasn't really the best one.
2:27:33
I think Morgan was. I think she was supposed to win
2:27:36
the gold if it was any American, but Lou really stood out.
2:27:40
She she just really put on a show and she was perfect.
2:27:44
Every one of her jumps, it was fantastic.
2:27:47
And her artistry on On the Ice was sensational.
2:27:50
She was sensational to watch. Yeah, the Blade Angels was.
2:27:53
That was a trio that was trying to get all the hype, but the
2:27:55
other two did not meddle. Amber Glenn was fifth and I
2:27:58
think the other one, the other Young 1 was.
2:28:00
It was Amber Glenn. That's who they thought Glenn
2:28:02
was supposed to be. The gold.
2:28:04
Medal and that was the hype with the blade angels.
2:28:06
But Alyssa Luke coming through congratulations to her.
2:28:08
It wasn't amazing story too, like she didn't even want to.
2:28:11
It's funny, she didn't even want to skate at certain points when
2:28:14
she was at UCLA as well. She was.
2:28:16
She just got back, got back into it even before that 2022 year as
2:28:20
well. It was just fun to watch.
2:28:21
I love when it comes to the Olympics, you love figure
2:28:24
skating. Brittany was telling me the
2:28:26
other day. She's like when she was a kid,
2:28:28
that's all she used to watch with her grandmother.
2:28:29
When the Olympics, Winter Olympics came around and even
2:28:33
the Summer Olympics, you watch gymnastics.
2:28:35
And then when the Winter Olympics you watch skating,
2:28:37
figure skating because that's like the gymnastics of the
2:28:40
Winter Olympics. And it was just fun to watch.
2:28:43
Unfortunately, the men's gold medal, you know, gold medal,
2:28:47
gold medal. What's his name again?
2:28:49
Malin. Malin falls and he finishes in
2:28:51
eighth. He was expecting to absolutely
2:28:54
win the gold medal by at least 40 points and he fell.
2:28:57
He he fell on 2 quad jumps in the long program, which cost him
2:29:02
a chance to win a gold medal. He'll be back in four years.
2:29:05
We'll see if Luke comes back. She retired to come back.
2:29:09
She won the World Championships and then wins the Olympics. 20
2:29:12
years old. She's still, she's actually
2:29:14
younger than Malinin and she's she's a year younger than him.
2:29:17
Does she come back to try to defend the gold medal?
2:29:20
We'll see. But it's a great story And, and,
2:29:23
and I, I believe the ice dancers, they got absolutely,
2:29:26
absolutely ripped off. Oh my God.
2:29:29
Their final Olympics as a tandem married couple and and to fall
2:29:34
short and only when the silver when they were by far the best
2:29:36
skating team as far as the ice dancers are concerned.
2:29:40
It was horrible to watch. And it just shows you that even
2:29:43
being perfect, it doesn't seal the deal.
2:29:45
And, and that's why the Olympic Committee needs to look at these
2:29:48
these men and women that are voting and make sure that
2:29:51
they're not going to be taking sides if they're.
2:29:55
Respectable countries, yeah, I saw another graph on that too,
2:29:58
which was funny. Obviously they showed this big
2:30:01
skew and then the French judge that was part of the
2:30:03
investigation, there was just one other judge, I think it was
2:30:05
the 4th judge that didn't vote anybody good too.
2:30:08
So even if he just did a little something, they should have
2:30:09
watched. It was horrible to watch, it
2:30:11
really was. But again, this is the Olympics
2:30:14
and you want to compete and that's what you want to see.
2:30:17
And unfortunately, you didn't get a chance to see the two of
2:30:21
the best skaters we've ever seen as far as ice dancers are
2:30:24
concerned. And go check the documentary of
2:30:26
ice dancing on Netflix. It's a sensational documentary.
2:30:30
So check that out. It's just sad that the two best
2:30:33
in the world fall short and and their Olympic careers and
2:30:38
they'll make themselves a lot of money through sponsorships and
2:30:41
dancing for Disney and, you know, skating around the country
2:30:43
in the world as professionals. But sad to go, sad to go.
2:30:47
All right, Speaking of wealthy, let's move on to the the
2:30:49
actually the highest earning Olympian who's not an American
2:30:52
but was born in America and affected to China.
2:30:55
That's Eileen Goo. She wins in the woman's halfpipe
2:30:58
for China. Alex Ferreira though on the
2:31:00
men's side, gets his first ever gold medal for the United States
2:31:03
and X game winner. He's had a couple Olympic medals
2:31:06
but never got the gold, finally getting it, just edging out
2:31:08
Canada's, which actually the Canadian candidate, his name is.
2:31:11
Macklin, looked pretty good in that one too.
2:31:12
But Ferreira does win it with a 93.36.
2:31:16
Surprise. I mean, nobody thought that
2:31:19
Ferreira was going to win. It was the Canadian kid, the
2:31:22
Macklin kid who has been favored to win the half pipe and he it
2:31:28
was Ferreira just pulled off an unbelievable jump, which one of
2:31:32
the gold medal. So congratulations to Ferreira
2:31:35
and all the gold medals, all the civil and silver and and bronze
2:31:38
medalist that have competed for Team USA and all of the
2:31:42
competitors from each and every country.
2:31:44
It was fun to. Watch, it really was, yeah.
2:31:46
I'll comment on Ferreira too, because again, a lot of his hype
2:31:48
came from the X Games, a lot like Shaun White in the
2:31:50
beginning of his career, and I think now you're seeing it more
2:31:53
him later in his career get that kind of recognition as well.
2:31:55
And on the other side too, with Eileen Goosh, she actually was
2:31:57
batter first two runs, but the way that run works, you get a
2:32:00
third chance to just take the best score and rally back as
2:32:03
well to win that one. Chloe Kim didn't compete in that
2:32:06
one, but she got silver in one of the other ones too.
2:32:08
So give her give her a shout out as well.
2:32:10
All right, let's go to Michaela Schifrin.
2:32:12
We talked about it last week. She didn't meddle her 1st 2:00,
2:32:14
but she dominated her last run in individual slalom, winning by
2:32:18
almost 1/2 of a second. And now it's four medals, the
2:32:21
most ever for an Olympic women's skier and only two behind Bodie
2:32:25
Miller for the most all time. But she's the most gold.
2:32:26
Is this her last Olympics too? I don't.
2:32:29
I don't think it has to be because she's 30.
2:32:31
I think she could still do one more.
2:32:32
A lot of times with the endurance sports you can still
2:32:34
do. That, well, there are people
2:32:35
that said that, that she might be thinking of retirement now,
2:32:38
Lynn, Yvonne, she, she obviously wanted to, to jump on this
2:32:42
again. And, and at 41 years old and,
2:32:45
and compete and hopefully she doesn't lose her leg.
2:32:47
And she's been, as I've heard, she's got to go through like
2:32:50
four or five surgeries and hopefully she, she's OK, but
2:32:55
horrible to see somebody go down like that.
2:32:57
But yeah, like you said, Speedia, it's it's great to see.
2:33:01
And and and what, she's 22 gold medals or two medals away from
2:33:05
time. Bodie Miller.
2:33:06
Yeah. 2 total medals. One of the one of the greatest
2:33:08
skiers of all time. And she said I think already
2:33:10
better longevity too. She's the only one with 100
2:33:13
total wins, most World Championships already since she
2:33:16
debuted, I believe in 2012 in the World Championships of
2:33:20
skiing, too. I think she definitely has one
2:33:21
more Olympics in her. All right, This one will
2:33:23
definitely be the last Olympics, but one that finally she gets a
2:33:26
gold in. It's the bobsledder, a lot of
2:33:27
Myers Taylor, 41 years old, the oldest ever Olympian, Winter
2:33:32
Olympian for the United States, her fifth Olympics.
2:33:34
She debuted in Vancouver back in 2010.
2:33:36
She finally gets her gold medal at 41.
2:33:39
By the way, it was such a shock to her that after she won, she,
2:33:44
she got up and she, she was shocked.
2:33:48
It's, it's fun to watch when you see their faces when their time
2:33:50
pops up on the board and they know they're winning the gold.
2:33:53
It was, it was sensational. And again, this is the most
2:33:57
goals that Team USA has ever won in the Winter Olympics.
2:34:00
Yeah, I think it was the highest percentage ever that was from
2:34:03
the women's sports as well. I believe eight of the 12 that
2:34:05
they had were from women's sports.
2:34:06
And again, this is somebody that's I think has two kids
2:34:09
already now at 41 years old. I mean, like I said, there's
2:34:11
only certain sports you could do at that age.
2:34:13
But she toughed it out. I didn't know if she had.
2:34:15
It looks like she was kind of reeling down the stretch against
2:34:18
I believe there's a Switzerland one to beat it out.
2:34:21
But congratulations to her. All right, two more left.
2:34:24
We got speed skating on both sides.
2:34:26
Jordan Stolls for the men's got 2 golds and a silver.
2:34:29
Kind of stumbled in his last race but they said he was a very
2:34:32
worn out. Comparing the quads to Saquon
2:34:35
Barkley with Jordan Stoll. Jordan Stoll is the fastest
2:34:39
skater in the world, the fastest skater in the world, and to
2:34:42
watch him dominate it this year and remember 4 years ago he was,
2:34:47
he was a dominant force for Team USA as well, but didn't do as
2:34:50
well last year, 4 years ago as he's done this year.
2:34:54
So it was fun to watch. Finally, he's getting his
2:34:56
recognition. Yeah, he got one of his goals
2:34:59
was a huge distance event and he actually won it by a pretty good
2:35:01
margin as well. Again, just kind of maybe didn't
2:35:04
stretch enough down the stretch of that last one, but can't,
2:35:06
can't discredit what he did for the rest of those races too and
2:35:09
did very well with the team relay rallying them there.
2:35:11
So that's on the men's side. And then on the women's side,
2:35:13
kind of like I was saying with Ferreira before, Brittany Ball,
2:35:17
figure speed skater that was fourth place each of the last
2:35:20
three times that she competed in the Olympics, finally gets a
2:35:22
silver medal. Fun to watch.
2:35:24
Like I said, it's always good to see somebody keep fighting,
2:35:28
fighting, fighting and go into Olympic, you know, every four
2:35:31
years try to compete and get that that big medal and get a
2:35:34
chance to win a medal. And now she finally gets it at
2:35:37
silver. I got a chance to watch her, you
2:35:39
know, in the preliminaries. I didn't watch her win the
2:35:42
silver medal, but fun to watch. Great.
2:35:44
She's a great skater. And hopefully she'll be back in
2:35:47
another four years. Yeah.
2:35:48
She's 1. I don't think it's gotten as
2:35:49
much hype because of Aaron Jackson and Aaron Jackson I she
2:35:52
got a tough draw because she had she had to face the the Dutch
2:35:55
one that got the world Olympic record, which that was a tough
2:35:57
draw for her. But I think Bo just really
2:36:00
rising up to that had that good sense of adversity.
2:36:02
I think she dodged a lot of those tough crashes.
2:36:04
That speed skating course was tough towards the end too.
2:36:07
And tough it out and I'll ride it out with this one with the
2:36:10
with the women's hockey because Brittany Bowe's fiance is
2:36:12
actually Hillary Knights. They are a couple and she was
2:36:15
the miracle maker for the US women's hockey under 10 seconds
2:36:18
to goals tie it against ties it against Canada.
2:36:20
And then it's a defenseman and Megan Keller who wins on a very
2:36:24
impressive breakaway goal at the dangle in front of the night.
2:36:27
You don't usually see from a. Defenseman and by the way, by
2:36:29
the way, the United United States has never beaten Team
2:36:32
Canada women's never beat Tim Canada in the Olympics.
2:36:35
Never. I don't think they ever did.
2:36:37
So this is the first time. And and to do it the way they
2:36:39
did it, remember they scored with 10 seconds left and then
2:36:42
went to overtime and beat Canada and it was 1 nothing throughout
2:36:46
the game all the way 10 seconds into the 10 seconds left into
2:36:49
the third period. It was fantastic.
2:36:52
And congratulations to Team USA Women's Hockey for winning the
2:36:56
gold medal and knocking off their nemesis Team Canada, which
2:36:58
they've had problems with year in, year out in the
2:37:02
championships and all that other stuff.
2:37:04
So it was fun to watch. They always say in a rivalry
2:37:06
like all these stats get thrown out the window and we're talking
2:37:08
about it like the US were dominating the 31 to one.
2:37:11
They were being outscored. They'd a shut off streak going
2:37:13
for a while with the with the goaltender.
2:37:15
And then all of a sudden Canada gets the better of them in the
2:37:18
first period. They kind of flat even in the
2:37:20
second period. But Hilary Knight,
2:37:22
congratulations to her being the the closing ceremony flag bearer
2:37:25
as well. Very well deserved honor for the
2:37:26
she's 33 years old clutch. She's done.
2:37:29
I think she's done with the Olympics.
2:37:31
There's so many great young A women hockey players coming up
2:37:35
in the future and we're seeing them the speed of Team USA and
2:37:40
again Team Canada too. Their their captain could this
2:37:43
could be their her last year as well.
2:37:45
So who I think is 3233? Yeah, she, I guess she got hurt
2:37:48
at the beginning of the term and played in this one.
2:37:50
I believe she's also 33. So yeah, and have an error for
2:37:52
both of those two in women's hockey in what was a very
2:37:55
impressive showcase, like you said, for the women.
2:37:57
'S and congratulations to women Canada hockey as well.
2:38:01
Yes, they are sensational. They're always impossible to
2:38:04
play against for Team USA Hockey and they just got the better of
2:38:08
them this year and got lucky. But that's it's all about the
2:38:11
luck of the luck of the bounce and congratulations to all our
2:38:15
gold, silver and bronze winners throughout the Olympic Games
2:38:19
all. Right.
2:38:21
All right, ladies and gentlemen, No King of the Hill tonight.
2:38:24
We call this Tic Tac. No Tic.
2:38:26
Tic. Morris.
2:38:29
Right in the butt. We get the prizes.
2:38:33
Cheap because they stole. It no.
2:38:37
No, no, no, no, no, no. Let's go, let's go, let's flow.
2:38:47
Lick it and stick it Patty cake. Patty cake Patty cake pickers
2:38:52
man. Speedy dances like a trash can.
2:38:56
I don't know how trash cans dance well.
2:38:58
If you spin it around a little bit, it'll bounce.
2:39:00
It'll do all the different things.
2:39:01
Look, I'm in the background right there, yeah.
2:39:05
Speedy, I hope you have something better than last time
2:39:09
because if you didn't, watch last episode.
2:39:11
You wanted to jerk me off. I had a perfect game in Tic Tac
2:39:16
now answered all three straight questions for the.
2:39:19
Dub. Speedy, what do you got for us
2:39:22
this time? All right, so we're, you got 2
2:39:25
out of 3 Olympic hockey questions out of the way.
2:39:27
So I was figuring the football would be too easy, but I guess
2:39:29
we're not. We're going to start there.
2:39:30
To start, I actually had one question prepared for our guest
2:39:33
last week. I'm on green, so I'm going to
2:39:35
let's go to that one first. Who was the only guy in 2003,
2:39:38
the season Arrow mentioned that was his best season that
2:39:40
finished ahead of him that season in rushing yards?
2:39:45
Better, I'm sorry, one more time.
2:39:47
So in 2003, I'm on green. Our friend of the Show last week
2:39:51
was second in the NFL in rushing yards.
2:39:53
Who was the only guy that finished ahead of them?
2:40:01
Come. On Edger and James, Nope.
2:40:04
Another guy that almost came on our.
2:40:06
Show I got one. What do you got, Sean Alexander?
2:40:08
Nope. I was thinking to him too.
2:40:14
All right, so now Dom and Zoot, you guys get a guess each.
2:40:23
Unmute yourselves. I'm.
2:40:25
Trying to think what could. It be.
2:40:30
Running. Back, I'll say Ladane Tomlinson.
2:40:33
Nope. It's a good guess that.
2:40:35
Was going to be my guess, Jerome.
2:40:36
Bettis. Nope.
2:40:38
All right, Tommy, up to you. 2003.
2:40:44
Yes. My senior year of I have a.
2:40:48
Football, I think I maybe I can guess here, I think, I think.
2:40:52
Curtis Martin. Nope.
2:40:53
You know what? Hold on.
2:40:54
Let me see. I know.
2:40:55
I'm. No, I'll Curtis Martin, not
2:40:56
Curtis. Martin.
2:40:57
Sweetie, the folk. One.
2:40:58
No, it was Jamal Lewis. Is that the 2002 thousand yards
2:41:04
was. Baltimore, right?
2:41:06
Nope, that was his 2000 yard season.
2:41:07
Yep. Was it Baltimore?
2:41:08
Yep, right with the Ravens. Ever.
2:41:11
That was his. 2000, yeah. All right, Speedy, I'm assuming
2:41:15
you want the middle? Of course.
2:41:18
All right, Fish. All right.
2:41:20
We talked about University of Arizona earlier.
2:41:22
So the last time they won a national championship, they had
2:41:24
two point guards that both had long NBA careers, one playing 14
2:41:28
years and the other playing 19. Named these two.
2:41:30
Players I know this. Jason Terry and Mike Bibby.
2:41:34
Good. Job fish.
2:41:35
They're on a roll. Hey, look at that.
2:41:38
You still are on a roll from last week.
2:41:41
Four or five pretty good. All right, I'm just going to
2:41:44
leave it up. I didn't even take the graphic
2:41:46
down speedy. I got that one so fast.
2:41:49
We're going to go this way. Love that team.
2:41:53
That was a great team, all right.
2:41:56
Speedy. All right, let's go to the NBA
2:41:59
now. We'll go to some All Star Game
2:42:01
trivia that I had saved from last week. 1997 was the last
2:42:04
year in NBA All Star Game MVP was not won by a future Hall of
2:42:08
Fame by a guy that's currently not in the Hall of Fame name.
2:42:12
Name this Eastern Conference forward. 97 you said.
2:42:17
In 1997, he's not a he's not a current or I guess maybe not a
2:42:24
future Hall of Famer because he's not in right now.
2:42:27
Well, if he's not from 97, I guess he ain't getting in now.
2:42:34
OK, I think I know this one. Is it Sean Kemp?
2:42:39
Nope. Is it Grant Hill?
2:42:43
Nope. You know, I had a friend I used
2:42:48
to play pick up basketball with Errol that every time he hit a
2:42:51
shot, he said Grant Hill, drink Sprite in your face every single
2:42:55
time. Andre Kirilenko Commercial.
2:42:58
Nope. Kirilenko.
2:43:00
I don't even know. I don't.
2:43:03
Obscure forwards from the late 90s.
2:43:05
Boys, non Hall of Farmers, Yeah, we're good enough to be in an
2:43:11
All Star game. Tim Hardaway.
2:43:13
I got nothing. And not Tim Hardaway, that's a
2:43:16
guard you. Could have another guess, I
2:43:22
don't know. Pippin.
2:43:23
He's going to Hall of Fame. Yeah, I don't know.
2:43:26
Not a non Hall of Famer. Zoot last.
2:43:28
Chance. I can't think of a non Hall of
2:43:30
Famer. Go ahead, Speedy, I got another
2:43:33
guess. Oh, I'm sorry, you already
2:43:34
guessed so, Tommy. Yeah.
2:43:36
No, I got nothing. I got nothing.
2:43:38
I don't even know. All right, Speedy, who is it?
2:43:40
It was. Glen Rice.
2:43:42
He's not going to. The man that was not.
2:43:45
Going to get. That no, he's not going to be in
2:43:46
the hall. He also played for the.
2:43:48
Great 3 point shooter. He also played for the Knicks.
2:43:49
Yeah, he he wasn't any good by the time he got to the Knicks.
2:43:53
Speedy, where are we going? Let's go top, top, right.
2:43:58
Top right for Speedy. All right, we got to stop him
2:44:02
here, guys. All right, let's go to our guest
2:44:05
for tonight, Ken Hamlin, who had his first two interception game
2:44:09
was against the Bills back in 2005.
2:44:11
Which quarterback did he pick off?
2:44:13
2005, you say? When I was in College in
2:44:16
Buffalo. 00 JP Lossman Nope, it's the other one.
2:44:33
I have no. Idea it was whoever was before
2:44:36
JP Lawsman. Can I give Fish my guest?
2:44:40
Do you know who it is then? Fish.
2:44:41
I don't know. I have no clue.
2:44:43
No, I don't think of. It I don't I can't think of it.
2:44:46
I'm. 2005 in the Bills. I'm drawing a blank.
2:44:53
I have a guess but. Use Tommy's Go ahead have.
2:45:00
A guess. Yeah, you can use my guess
2:45:01
whenever I got like nothing I. Yeah, I got a quarterback.
2:45:07
Use mine too you. Guys, just not.
2:45:10
We got to stop them all, right? I had a name and now I forgot
2:45:14
the name because I'm so flustered.
2:45:16
Speedy read the question to me one more time.
2:45:17
So Ken Hamlin got his first multiple interception game in
2:45:21
2005 when they played against the Buffalo Bills.
2:45:25
Who is the quarterback they picked off?
2:45:28
2005 so that would have been my sophomore year of college.
2:45:35
Who did they have at quarterback before EJ?
2:45:40
Manual No. That was wait.
2:45:43
Later, that was like what I was after.
2:45:44
That was after all, right. I was at high.
2:45:46
School. That's the high school.
2:45:47
But then, so then the other way, the other way in years.
2:45:58
I'm really everybody. Everyone was just giving like
2:46:01
random was. Wait, Fitzpatrick.
2:46:04
No, it's actually not as random as you think.
2:46:07
It's a pretty not maybe not a whole fame quarterback, but it's
2:46:10
a well known quarterback. A well known Bills quarterback
2:46:16
from back then. That's bad, Errol.
2:46:20
You got nothing. I I could guess what.
2:46:23
Do you got? Kelly Holcomb.
2:46:33
Nope. That is not a well known Phil's
2:46:37
quarterback, but you're right, he definitely was there.
2:46:43
Shit. All right, you want a hint I.
2:46:46
Guess I get one more guess I'll take a hint.
2:46:48
OK. He actually has a connection
2:46:51
with this quarterback later in his career.
2:46:55
His quarterback? What do you mean his?
2:46:56
Quarterback this quarterback. He's saying Ken Hamlin had a
2:46:59
connection with his quarterback later in his career, right?
2:47:02
I. Don't.
2:47:09
Know who backed up the Cowboys? Oh no.
2:47:15
Is it going to be when like he was on those like Speedy?
2:47:18
That's a mean hint. If it was like his last year in
2:47:21
the league when he was on two different teams, I'm going to
2:47:26
guess Cowboys back and quarterback.
2:47:28
Was it like Kyle Warden? No, it was a much more, much
2:47:32
bigger name than that. It was a guy who started before
2:47:35
that with the Cowboys, and then Tony Romo took over for him.
2:47:38
It was Drew Bledsock. Bled.
2:47:39
So that was the other guy I was going to say.
2:47:42
In his sights, I believe it was only his only year with the
2:47:44
Bills. I was not perfect this time,
2:47:47
Speedy. I was.
2:47:49
I was like, I don't know if he was still around by then.
2:47:52
Should have just went with it. All right, Speedy, you got us
2:47:56
Tic Tac. No, you get your revenge.
2:48:00
Congratulations. Drill bones smack my ass.
2:48:04
I get more girls than scoops. In Niffin's words, he can.
2:48:12
Thumb up my ass. Shove a thumb up his ass.
2:48:15
Anyways, that is tic tac. No ladies and gentlemen.
2:48:18
Oh, we have sweetie. You have the new drop for this.
2:48:22
I believe we got a, we got a sports minute first.
2:48:24
Oh. Yes I do.
2:48:25
I do have the. Job.
2:48:25
All right, so we have a sports minute and then when we come
2:48:29
back, we have a new segment, ladies and gentlemen.
2:48:32
But first, our sports minute. This is the Jabba and the Mouth
2:48:38
sportsman at. All right, guys, Aaron Fishman
2:48:41
here with your sportsman. I got a couple of more stories
2:48:43
before we get into the sports tonight.
2:48:46
In scary news at a Yankee land, retired legendary Yankees radio
2:48:50
broadcaster John Sterling suffered a heart attack last
2:48:53
month but is recovering well, according to Sterling himself,
2:48:56
who called into The Fan. I host Ricky Ricardo on Sunday.
2:49:00
Everything is, I say, good for people who don't know.
2:49:03
There isn't any reason to hide it.
2:49:04
The beginning of January, I had a heart attack.
2:49:06
That's fine. The heart is fine.
2:49:08
Sometimes it affects your legs and it's affected my legs.
2:49:11
So I'm kind of waiting for the force to leave my legs and I can
2:49:14
get back out there. But I'm very fortunate and all
2:49:17
things are good. I have four children.
2:49:19
I couldn't have done anything without them.
2:49:21
They have been sensational and taking care of me.
2:49:24
They've taken over all phases of my life.
2:49:27
Sterling, who's still going strong at 87 years young, is a
2:49:31
huge part of many Yankees fans childhoods, including self.
2:49:36
Good health and best wishes. What best wishes to the nickname
2:49:40
Master Mr. John Sterling. New Atlanta Falcons team
2:49:45
President of Football Operations Matt Ryan has indicated to ESP
2:49:50
NS Jeremy Fowler on Monday that the Falcons will be using the
2:49:53
franchise tag on tight end Kyle Pitts.
2:49:57
Pitts will make approximately $16.3 million on the tag.
2:50:01
The Falcons have until July 15th to work out a long term deal
2:50:05
with Pitts or Pitts will have to play the 2026 season on that
2:50:09
tender. Pitts was a second team All Pro
2:50:11
and finished second in both receptions with 88 and receiving
2:50:14
yards with 928, both behind Cardinals first team All Pro
2:50:18
tight end Trey McBride. Pitts, who struggled for a lot
2:50:21
of his tenure with the Falcons before this season, will not be
2:50:24
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2:50:28
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2:51:01
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2:51:57
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2:52:02
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2:52:05
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2:52:07
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2:52:09
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2:52:12
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2:52:14
And thank you for landing us, Mr. Hamlin.
2:52:17
Speaking of landing, we have a new segment and a new drop.
2:52:22
We call this draft first, Google later.
2:52:25
I. Lost the number one draft pick
2:52:28
the night before the. Draft and now.
2:52:31
Yeah, it's pretty simple. I win.
2:52:32
Google me. Google me.
2:52:33
Draft first, Google later, later.
2:52:35
You're the king of watchful thinking.
2:52:38
I had to laugh at that. It was pretty funny, all right?
2:52:41
All right, here we go. Errol.
2:52:43
This is what we drafted the a week ago.
2:52:46
We made fantasy teams for the league for the rest of the year.
2:52:52
So we're going to be able to pay close attention.
2:52:53
But this isn't any fantasy league.
2:52:56
We're going to do this in a kind of a horse fine format with
2:53:00
FAFOF around and find out. We are going to challenge each
2:53:05
other within the league, a game within the game some will call
2:53:10
it and basically it goes like this.
2:53:13
We are going to have an end of the year standings and whichever
2:53:16
team has the most points is going to be the winner and we're
2:53:19
going to talk about the rewards as we get into the season in the
2:53:22
next couple of weeks. However, tonight we have some
2:53:25
business. The first thing of order we have
2:53:27
to do is handle the guys that we drafted that are on the IR or
2:53:32
injured for enough weeks that it's not going to make sense to
2:53:34
keep them. So we're going to get add some
2:53:35
players to the team to start, but then we're going to do what
2:53:38
we do every week in FAFO Fantasy hoops Draft first, Google later,
2:53:43
Guess what? We're going to challenge
2:53:45
somebody. So I'm going to start off the
2:53:47
challenges. For an example, I challenge you
2:53:50
Errol this week to make a lineup with your roster that you have
2:53:56
access to on Yahoo after I adjusted with your new players
2:53:59
that you're going to get to have the most rebounds.
2:54:03
Can you out rebound my team, try to make your team set up just
2:54:08
for rebounds. Obviously there are other
2:54:10
standings don't count. It's just going to be for the
2:54:12
end of the year. It counts separately.
2:54:14
Well, I will say this, if I have to pick players, I might have to
2:54:17
move players to different positions, so I might.
2:54:19
Have you can do however you want for that.
2:54:21
It's a completely different thing.
2:54:23
This is within the game within the game.
2:54:25
Now here's the catch, if I spell FAFOI lose 4 times, I lose 500
2:54:31
points from my end of season score.
2:54:34
Of all of my players, that could be enough to cost me first place
2:54:38
and the cherished championship prize.
2:54:42
So it's time to draft first, Google later, F around and find
2:54:48
out. So here's what we found out.
2:54:50
I'm going to show you where we are with our rosters and we have
2:54:54
a couple issues. Guys to bring this down and
2:54:58
bring the rosters up. Just put it in a spreadsheet.
2:55:01
I'll zoom in the best I can, but basically I have a few guys on
2:55:03
IR. Errol, you have two guys on IR,
2:55:06
Kyrie Irving. As soon as you drafted them,
2:55:08
they said Kyrie take the rest of the year off and it's a bonus.
2:55:12
Suffered a season ending injury as well.
2:55:15
So you will have to pick a point guard and then we're going to
2:55:17
come back to you at the end to take a utility guy at the end of
2:55:21
the draft of this like kind of fab draft that we have here.
2:55:25
Speedy Franz. Wagner's going to be out for
2:55:28
about a month. That's enough.
2:55:30
That's about half of the weeks left.
2:55:32
We're giving you a bonus pick for Franz.
2:55:36
Darius Garland hasn't played. I am going to get rid of him.
2:55:40
He hasn't played all year basically since his injury.
2:55:43
They said he was going to be back.
2:55:44
It might take a little bit longer.
2:55:46
I'm going to dump him and Tommy. Jalen Williams has another, has
2:55:50
another hamstring issue. You have the option to dump
2:55:53
Jalen Williams for a power forward and a power forward
2:55:57
only. I have to and we have to get
2:55:59
everybody at the position power forward for you to speak for
2:56:02
Wagner. All right, so let's go through
2:56:05
it. Let me show you who's available
2:56:08
real quick. So here it is.
2:56:10
At what position? I told you, Errol, you need a
2:56:12
point guard. Here are the point guards that
2:56:15
are available starting here. And this is their expected
2:56:18
points for the rest of the seasons.
2:56:21
And again, it has Garland, who I just dropped and Trey Young has
2:56:23
also heard. But this is really the list
2:56:25
here. Josh Giddy, Peyton Pritchard,
2:56:28
Rollins, Tyler Hero, Emmanuel Quickly, Drew Holiday and Stefan
2:56:33
Castle. All right, so I'm going to move
2:56:37
Cooper Cup to my porn card. All right, so you want so you
2:56:47
want a 2 guard is what you're. Saying yes now Darius Garland,
2:56:50
how long is he out? Is he out?
2:56:52
Of he's he's not coming back, that's why he was dropped.
2:56:55
So he's not going to be back in time for it to matter.
2:56:59
So here we go. These are your two guard options
2:57:01
right here. Giddy Ron's hero quickly Holiday
2:57:04
Castle Ace Bailey looks like after that con Canupel and
2:57:10
Nebhard. Let me move up.
2:57:16
I'm trying to see what I need for rebounds.
2:57:21
Again, that's just this week. Oh I know.
2:57:23
I want to see what these who's who's the better rebounder, the.
2:57:27
Two rebounders here that are the best look like Giddy and Ace
2:57:30
Bailey, but again, you keep them for the rest of the season.
2:57:37
I know I'm trying to. I don't know, I guess give me,
2:57:48
give me Josh Giddy. All right, Errol gets giddy with
2:57:52
giddy. All right, we're going to come
2:57:56
back to you at the end. Darrell next is speedy for a
2:57:59
power forward to replace Wagner. Let's give you the power
2:58:03
forwards that are available. Philipowski, followed by Jabari
2:58:06
Smith, Junior Ocongo, Miles Bridges, PJ Washington, OG
2:58:11
Annanobi and Bailey is still there with Derek Queen and
2:58:14
Lowry. Mark, I'll.
2:58:16
Take Smith 3 possessions. Yeah, Jabari.
2:58:20
Well, again, we're not really moving positions, right?
2:58:23
It's just a full year thing that's just for these call outs,
2:58:26
which might be beneficial in the call out.
2:58:28
So, all right, so you want Jabari Smith, Junior?
2:58:31
Because I also think I have don't I have Tara Eason too.
2:58:35
I can it's a rocket stand them there works so.
2:58:38
Yeah, Smith Junior. All right, now that goes to me.
2:58:44
I need a replacement for point guard for Garland and I am going
2:58:53
to go back to that list. I'm pretty sure I was going to
2:58:56
take Hayden Pritchard. All right, so I'm going to take
2:59:00
Pritchard and that gives us the Tommy for a power forward.
2:59:12
Go back, Yeah, go back to the power forwards again.
2:59:16
And you can also move Brandon Ingram the power forward, I
2:59:20
think, and you can get a three you want to see.
2:59:28
The threes also, yeah, let me see the threes.
2:59:30
So the threes it adds OG in there, Canoople in there.
2:59:38
That's really the only other editions.
2:59:41
Jalen Green. You know what?
2:59:48
Go down. Let me get Matheran Green,
2:59:54
though Wiggins is available. You know what?
2:59:57
Let me do Wiggins. Move.
2:59:59
Yeah, let me move. Who's my son?
3:00:02
Offered. Again, it it doesn't really
3:00:03
matter because they all yeah, Wiggins goes there now Errol
3:00:08
back to you for utility. So I'm going to bring it to
3:00:12
util. So any position, Errol and again
3:00:15
Gideon Pritchard are gone. So here it is.
3:00:17
Rollins is the next guy. I would go a hero I'm.
3:00:20
I'm going to go hero. All right, and Arrow, we'll add
3:00:23
Tyler Hero. OK, so Arrow, I called you out.
3:00:27
That leaves Speedy. You can call either Tommy out or
3:00:33
Jabba's team out. All.
3:00:35
Right, let me see the rosters. No, you're just going to.
3:00:38
You're just going to randomly do it.
3:00:40
OK, randomly do it. All right, so I guess I lost
3:00:47
power forward. All right, I'll call out Java's
3:00:52
roster and I'll say assists. All right, so speedy.
3:00:57
So I'm challenging Errol in rebounds and it's speedy versus
3:01:05
Java in assists. And Tommy, that means you have
3:01:10
to challenge somebody also, which makes this super hard.
3:01:13
So you can get screwed having to make your team for two different
3:01:16
types of categories. Tommy, here's the wild card.
3:01:20
Who do you want to challenge? And then what?
3:01:22
Again, the only challenges so far are me and Errol in rebounds
3:01:25
and steamy and job and assists. You know what?
3:01:28
Let me challenge Errol's team in three pointers.
3:01:33
All right, and three pointers. So total 3 pointers made.
3:01:38
All right, so that's this how it's going to go here on draft
3:01:44
first, Google later. Why don't I get a challenge?
3:01:48
Why don't I get a challenge? Anybody.
3:01:50
You guys get all three of you. Get You've already been, You've
3:01:52
already been challenged. Oh.
3:01:54
So so I get challenged 2 times and I don't get a challenge.
3:02:00
How do how do you get to challenge first?
3:02:02
What did you spin the wheel? Make the deal.
3:02:05
How does that? We've never done it before.
3:02:08
How does that? Work.
3:02:09
How does that work? How you get to challenge me
3:02:11
before I get? To that's not fair somebody too.
3:02:16
That's not fair, somebody. Too.
3:02:17
That's not fair. Is not even here and we're
3:02:19
challenging. But that's not fair.
3:02:20
Why can't I challenge somebody? That's not fair.
3:02:24
You will get you will next week. Already.
3:02:27
Oh so I get challenged twice and I got to wait until next week to
3:02:30
challenge and I can. Only, yeah, whoever, whoever get
3:02:33
gets phoned on having to do it twice that.
3:02:36
Week don't think this should. Be the one in.
3:02:38
Charge. I don't think that's fair.
3:02:39
Challenge is next. Week, I think everybody should
3:02:41
get a challenge every single week.
3:02:42
That's that, that's, that's the way.
3:02:44
So you know, who gives you the right?
3:02:48
No. Who gives you the right?
3:02:49
Who gives you? The right Who gives you the
3:02:52
right to get to challenge me? And I can't challenge anybody
3:02:56
who gives you the right. Oh my God.
3:02:59
Am I wrong? Am I wrong?
3:03:01
They're out of out of all four of all four of you've been.
3:03:05
Challenged twice. You want to challenge somebody?
3:03:07
Absolutely, absolutely risk and risk getting another letter.
3:03:12
The whole point is not to be challenged because you don't
3:03:15
have any risk, so you don't really want to be challenged.
3:03:17
Yeah, well, I want to challenge and I'm going to challenge you.
3:03:21
Big mouth all. Right, we're already challenging
3:03:24
each. Other I'm going to challenge you
3:03:25
with most points. I thought this game was really.
3:03:28
Most points, most points I'm going to challenge your ass, big
3:03:33
mouth and I'm going to knock you off on that because you have not
3:03:36
a. Challenge.
3:03:37
All right, fine. And total points.
3:03:40
So guys, I'm going to fix those rosters tonight, set them
3:03:45
however you want for tomorrow and I will make them stick and
3:03:48
that will be draft first. Google.
3:03:51
Later now wait a SEC. So we do it for the week.
3:03:55
So how do where do we start? And we have to, obviously.
3:03:58
Move. So it's a, it's a Monday to
3:04:00
Sunday. It's going to be Monday to
3:04:01
Sunday. So today I'll just, we'll set
3:04:03
the rosters, but I can manually as the commissioner, go in and
3:04:06
set it however we want. So it would be today into
3:04:09
Sunday, correct? That's fine.
3:04:11
Well, there's nothing really you could do.
3:04:12
You can only play the guys that are starting.
3:04:14
So there's. Well no you on that.
3:04:18
You can play whoever you want but for the year long thing it's
3:04:20
just who has the best roster. Right.
3:04:24
But you're, you're challenging me.
3:04:25
So I want to play as many players as I can.
3:04:28
We can, you know, every single day because I want to win by
3:04:32
rebounds. So that's how you have to go.
3:04:34
I know, but now I also need points.
3:04:36
So now we basically need to hope that we have a lot of power
3:04:39
forwards that get double double s.
3:04:41
So I guess I'm throwing in beat out there this week.
3:04:43
It doesn't matter. You're going to lose.
3:04:45
So that's it. All right, so we have one more
3:04:47
segment before dial IT up. The NFL Combine started today in
3:04:51
Indianapolis, with measurements and team interviews taking place
3:04:56
as soon as the players stepped into Lucas Oil Stadium.
3:05:01
NFL Networks Tom Pelissaro reports that Alabama quarterback
3:05:05
Ty Simpson, a projected first round pick, will throw at the
3:05:09
NFL Combine, but Heisman Trophy winner Fernando Mendoza, the
3:05:14
projected number one overall pick, will not throw as
3:05:17
expected. The athletic Dane Bruggler
3:05:20
believes that Penn State Drew Aller, LSU's Garrett Nussman,
3:05:24
Meyer, North Dakota State's Cole Payton and Arkansas Taylon Green
3:05:30
are the four quarterbacks that could make leaps into the second
3:05:33
round based on the senior ball performances.
3:05:36
The key measurement scouts look at for the quarterbacks that
3:05:40
will be uncovered at the combine in hand size, closer to 10
3:05:45
inches is preferable, but under 9 is looked at as a red flag.
3:05:52
Hand size is also important for receivers and of the many
3:05:56
possible first round receivers this year, Carnell Tate, Jordan
3:06:00
Tyson projected to have a larger hand size, while Denzel Boston
3:06:06
and KC Concepcion and Kai Lemon are expected to have to be
3:06:12
smaller For the online high, Expected first round picks from
3:06:18
Utah tackle Spencer Fano and Caleb Lomu as well as Miami's
3:06:24
Francis Magoa all projected to be over the key red flag arm
3:06:30
lengths of 33 inches. Who the hell cares?
3:06:32
Closer to 35 is desired for for most tackles.
3:06:37
Other projected first round picks projected to have smaller
3:06:40
arm lengths as Alabama Kaden Proctor and Auburn's Connor Lou.
3:06:45
Let's go to the quarterbacks. The only quarterback that's
3:06:48
really desirable in this quarterback class, Fernando
3:06:51
Mendoza, he's going one. The thought here is a Garrett
3:06:55
Nussmeyer who could have been a first round talent two years ago
3:06:59
before this year. This debacle of year with LSU
3:07:02
and Brian Kelly being fired, he's fallen.
3:07:05
Some people think he could fall to the third or fourth round
3:07:08
even if he plays well in the senior ball.
3:07:10
There's a lot of questions with his ability to move outside of
3:07:14
the pocket, is he going to have the ability in the athletic
3:07:17
ability to make the throws on the run in the NFL, which he had
3:07:20
problems this year? So I think out of all these
3:07:23
quarterbacks that we've mentioned is including the Penn
3:07:25
State quarterback and Drew Aller and Cole Payton and and Taylon
3:07:30
Green, I think that the second best quarterback in this class
3:07:34
is Garrett Nussmeyer. I think he is the second best.
3:07:37
Now Ty Simpson, I, I understand it's going to be a first round
3:07:40
talent and, and a lot of people think that if the Steelers, if
3:07:43
he falls to the Steelers, the Steelers will draft him because
3:07:46
of Mike McCarthy and Mike McCarthy will let him sit either
3:07:49
if they bring in a veteran quarterback.
3:07:50
I don't know if Aaron Rodgers will be back, but if they decide
3:07:53
to bring in a veteran quarterback besides Aaron
3:07:56
Rodgers, they expect Ty Simpson to sit and ride the bench for at
3:08:00
least a year, maybe even 2. So we'll we'll see.
3:08:03
Maybe Kirk Cousins could become available and maybe he goes to
3:08:06
Pittsburgh. There'll be a lot of teams
3:08:08
looking to add Kirk Cousins to the roster.
3:08:10
But none of these quarterbacks to me really stand out.
3:08:15
Or you're, you're really taking a risk going in the second round
3:08:19
of drafting one of these guys. Ty Simpson is a borderline first
3:08:23
round draft pick. I think he should fall out.
3:08:26
He's an early second round draft pick.
3:08:27
But Garrett Nussmeyer is the guy that I would go if I'm any other
3:08:31
team looking for a quarterback to ride the bench for at least
3:08:35
six or seven weeks and see what you have with Garrett Nussmeyer.
3:08:38
I I think that's, that's the way I go.
3:08:40
As far as the wide receivers, obviously Carnell Tate is the
3:08:45
big name and Jordan Tyson is the other guy.
3:08:48
Jordan Tyson plays for Arizona. He's the guy that everybody
3:08:51
keeps talking about. The athletically gifted kid that
3:08:54
can go up for the ball very long, has big hands.
3:08:57
That's great. But I think Carnell Tate has the
3:09:00
most, I think, upside out of all these wide receivers being where
3:09:04
he is coming from, where he is played.
3:09:07
And if he can stay healthy and he stay on the field, he can
3:09:10
make he makes the most sense. If there's a team in the top ten
3:09:13
looking for a wide receiver, AKA the New York Giants, who's
3:09:16
looking for a guy that can help out neighbors, especially
3:09:19
neighbors who might not start the season until week seven,
3:09:22
week 8, he's not going to be 100% healthy even when he comes
3:09:25
back. So I would go with Carnell Tate
3:09:27
if I was the New York Giants, but he's the best guy.
3:09:30
You know, I've I've heard about these guys, KC Kerception and
3:09:33
and, and Mackay Lemon, all these guys.
3:09:36
That's great. These guys are all going to fall
3:09:38
to the second and third round. They're not first round talents
3:09:40
and anybody to think that they are, you're really reaching.
3:09:44
I think this is a class for pass rushers.
3:09:47
I expect all the top pass rushers, which is 7 or 8 of them
3:09:50
to be drafted in the top 25. I expect that to happen and
3:09:54
whoever falls out of the top 25, they're going to be The Jets who
3:10:00
are drafting first in the second round because they have the
3:10:02
Cowboys draft pick. They're going to be sitting
3:10:04
pretty because they can add a really, really good player in
3:10:08
the first in the starting of the first second round.
3:10:10
So the beginning of the second round, they could be sitting on
3:10:13
a really pretty spot if if one of these guys fall to them.
3:10:16
So I think that obviously you look at the situation in the
3:10:21
hand side, I don't really think that matters with wide
3:10:23
receivers. They said a lot, a lot about
3:10:25
that with Najigba with his size and his hand size and Kenneth
3:10:29
work in the NFL and we've seen what Najigba has done over the
3:10:33
last past year and a half. This guy is as explosive as any
3:10:36
wad receiver in the league. He can run routes.
3:10:38
To me, what I'm looking at is route runners who can make the
3:10:42
most plays running their routes, who could stop and, and, and
3:10:46
square off and, and, you know, be put in the slot and put on
3:10:49
the outside and do things that otherwise receivers can't do.
3:10:52
So if you would ask me, Jordan Tyson is probably the best route
3:10:56
runner out of this class, but Carnell Tate has the most upside
3:11:00
out of all the wide receivers in this class as far as the O line
3:11:05
is concerned. And I want to see that.
3:11:07
I want to see what they do on the football field, how they run
3:11:09
their combine. Carnell Tate, there's a lot of
3:11:12
questions with his injuries and he's been injury prone for the
3:11:14
last two seasons. Let's see how he does it this at
3:11:17
his combine, how he runs the cones, how he you know how he
3:11:20
lifts. But if Carnell has a good, good
3:11:26
combine, I don't see Jordan Tyson being drafted in front of
3:11:29
him. I I don't I think Tate is going
3:11:31
to be the first one off the board as far as the O lines are
3:11:34
concerned. I am not an O line guy, but I've
3:11:37
I've heard of like that. The Francis Magoa, he's the guy
3:11:41
that everybody keeps talking about from Miami.
3:11:43
He's a guy that I could be the best tackle in his class and I
3:11:48
expect him to be a very high draft pick.
3:11:51
Maybe what maybe a top ten pick. We'll see how everything falls
3:11:54
into place and how he does at the combine.
3:11:55
Spencer Fano is another guy that I've heard a little bit about.
3:11:59
So those are the two guys that really stand out to me.
3:12:02
The other guys in Proctor. Proctor comes from Alabama.
3:12:04
He's going to be, if he's not a first round talent, he'll be a
3:12:07
late first round or early second round talent.
3:12:10
I I expect him maybe to fall because of the fact that some of
3:12:14
these Alabama offensive offensive lineman have not been
3:12:17
successful. One of your guys, Evan Neil, has
3:12:20
not been successful. Williams was not as good as they
3:12:23
expected him to be when he was drafted by the Bengals.
3:12:25
Cedric Wills with the Browns so recently.
3:12:27
Yeah, so I I think that because of these stipulations with the
3:12:32
smaller arms and and the arm length, I think Katie Proctor
3:12:36
could fall. Auburns Connor Lou, I don't know
3:12:41
much about him. I've heard you know different
3:12:43
things. Upside He's got a tremendous
3:12:46
upside. We've we've had some guys on the
3:12:48
show that said that he's a first round talent last year.
3:12:51
So expect him to be a first round, late first round draft
3:12:54
pick. But the guys to watch is Miami
3:12:56
kid Fano, Spencer Fano, those are the guys.
3:12:59
Caleb Lomu, those are the guys that you're going to see
3:13:03
probably drafted in the top 15, top 20 at best.
3:13:06
Yeah, I could definitely see my goal even being a top ten pick
3:13:08
as well because I think his his physicality at the line of
3:13:11
scrimmage, I think. He's the best tackle in.
3:13:13
I think so too. So if the giants off the tray
3:13:15
back from 5:00 and. They're not doing that.
3:13:17
Maybe they don't, but if they. Haven't heard anything with
3:13:20
that. If they do that, that could be
3:13:21
an option for them to consider. There's a Fano I think is a good
3:13:23
second option, but I think he's probably a little less of likely
3:13:26
to be a top ten pick. But I do I think he is good, I
3:13:28
think technique wise. I'm going to tell you this,
3:13:30
speedy if Carnell Tate has a good combine, he's going #5 to
3:13:33
the New York Giants. Definitely possible.
3:13:36
I I know Howard Cross was mentioning that was.
3:13:38
And a lot of people, a lot of of the experts, the giant guys that
3:13:41
I've heard, they're all predicting Carnell Tate to be a.
3:13:44
Giant Yep. And again, that's what Howard
3:13:45
Cross was mentioning too. I know he prefers them to go
3:13:47
online and I again, I I would tend to agree, just tend to take
3:13:50
on the right value, but be careful with the value.
3:13:52
I like Tate a lot. Jordan Tyson I think is a little
3:13:54
a little more of a route true right now.
3:13:56
That doesn't mean Tate can't improve.
3:13:57
Maybe Tate obviously playing next to Jeremiah Smith, he's not
3:13:59
as running as much of the. I think Tyson falls.
3:14:02
I think he falls out of the top ten, maybe falls out of the top
3:14:06
15, and maybe goes late teens, early 20s.
3:14:11
Interesting that would that would be an interesting thing if
3:14:14
that would require probably too many.
3:14:15
Pass rushers to pass. Not only that, it would probably
3:14:17
require a guy like the best defensive tackle in Peter Woods,
3:14:20
the kid from Clemson. He might.
3:14:22
There's a lot of speculation if he'll go top 10 or even he could
3:14:25
fall all the way to 25 or something like that.
3:14:27
And then Jeremiah Love, another big wild card.
3:14:29
A lot of people are mocking him to the Chiefs at #9 does he go
3:14:33
as early as that with his athletic grades?
3:14:36
So that would be the only reason I think Tyson would fall out of
3:14:38
the top 10 because there is a lot of teams that really need
3:14:39
wide receivers. Is interesting though.
3:14:41
The other receivers, though, because there's a lot of playoff
3:14:43
teams this year that definitely lacked a wide receiver where I
3:14:46
could still see Lemon going in the.
3:14:47
By the way, I'm reading what Christopher says.
3:14:49
He says Tyson drew all double teams.
3:14:51
Tate had more one on ones teams felt that.
3:14:56
Tyson did play with Jeremiah Smith.
3:14:58
I'm going to tell you this right now, if Tate has a good combine,
3:15:02
best believe he's going to be drafted in front of Tyson
3:15:05
because. I think I think it's crazy to
3:15:07
take him in the top ten though. Like the that's a great point by
3:15:11
Chris. If he's not someone who demands,
3:15:14
you know, that kind of like double coverage, he's not a top
3:15:17
10 receiver. Receiver shouldn't go that high
3:15:20
ever Fish. They really shouldn't.
3:15:21
Fish, here's the counter that I have to that because I was
3:15:24
actually skeptical of this with Crystal Lavey for the same
3:15:26
reason. Garrett Wilson and Najigba were
3:15:29
the more talented guy who got more attention and I was really
3:15:32
down and so was Jeff on a Lavey at the time because of that, and
3:15:34
he's still been a productive receiver.
3:15:36
Still not top ten though at 12. It's OK because you're OK with
3:15:40
that. And there's another guy who I
3:15:42
keep hearing it tied to the Giants, it sounds he's obviously
3:15:46
had a killer safety at that. You know, we're the Browns
3:15:50
drafting 6. I think they trade up at one of
3:15:54
these spots, maybe with The Jets, and they get downs because
3:15:58
I've been hearing that the Browns will do anything.
3:16:00
And they got a lot of draft stock because guess what they
3:16:03
got? They traded, guess who?
3:16:05
The Gremlin last year. So they have a ton of draft
3:16:07
stock. And if The Jets trade for them
3:16:09
and, and The Jets could see that at #2 they fall to number six,
3:16:13
they still get the guy that they want at number six and they get
3:16:17
a ton back jumping. Letting the.
3:16:20
The Browns jump from 6 to 2 and I best believe the Browns are
3:16:23
going to be calling The Jets and and and expect cuz this is the
3:16:25
same thing, the same thing the Jacksonville Jaguars did at 5
3:16:29
jumping at 2 and gave up an enormous a toll of players and
3:16:34
picks and downs is the guy That's what I've been hearing.
3:16:36
Downs is the guy the Browns want.
3:16:38
So. And it makes sense for The Jets
3:16:39
too because there's enough pass rushers in the first round where
3:16:41
even if they don't get Reese is probably the contest.
3:16:43
Bane will be there. I think Bane will still be
3:16:45
there. Bane should be there because I
3:16:47
would imagine Tennessee goes offense.
3:16:48
In some capacity, they could they offensive line, they might
3:16:51
be the team that draft might go in the top five.
3:16:53
If anyone does Arizona I've seen #3 but.
3:16:57
Their offensive lines pretty good.
3:16:58
I don't know if it's their biggest need.
3:16:59
I think they go. They could go defense.
3:17:01
Too so speedy like I there's a big thing that it's really clear
3:17:05
what the Giants are going to be doing in this draft if Jermaine
3:17:08
Illuminor is with or without or not with this team.
3:17:11
If they let Illuminor go in free agency because they didn't want
3:17:15
to pay whatever, probably around 13 to $15 million a year for him
3:17:19
because he had he was a dominant right tackle.
3:17:21
He was a top ten right tackle last year, you know, in most
3:17:24
metrics. So they don't want to pay for
3:17:26
that because maybe they don't want to pay for it.
3:17:28
So now maybe you go get the Miami tackle who just murdered
3:17:33
everybody the entire he's going in the he's going in the top
3:17:36
four. I think men go is, but I I well
3:17:38
him or Fano and Fano is a good prospect too.
3:17:41
It just depends where they go. I think you're going to look at
3:17:44
the top five. You're.
3:17:44
Going to see Reese, you're going to see Bain, you're going.
3:17:47
To see Malgoa, here's the problem, Mendoza, here's the
3:17:50
problem. Here's the Giants.
3:17:52
They're losing Robertson in free agency.
3:17:54
He's gone and they don't know when neighbors going to be back
3:17:58
next year, so they don't. And they don't have enough free
3:18:00
agency market money, so they're going to.
3:18:02
I'm telling you right now, if Carnell Tate has a very good
3:18:06
combine, he is going to the Giants.
3:18:09
You best believe it. But that's why I think it's a
3:18:11
tackle, because you can get away with not having a slot receiver.
3:18:14
You have to have a right to happen.
3:18:15
There is no way John Harbaugh is going to go into his first
3:18:18
season with the New York Giants. With no playmakers, it's not
3:18:21
going to happen. Well, I don't think well,
3:18:22
neighbors had look, neighbors had the meniscus.
3:18:25
Done at the same time as the ACL, so that means the recovery
3:18:28
takes a little bit longer. They're saying he might not be
3:18:30
back for the start of the season, but no one's saying that
3:18:31
he's going. To miss it, they're saying,
3:18:33
they're saying that he might miss five to six weeks and
3:18:36
there's a very good chance of the preseason.
3:18:38
No, of the regular season preseason.
3:18:41
Dude a 20 ACL. I would be shocked if he would
3:18:44
because it was like the 5th week of the season or something like
3:18:47
that. I'm telling you right now.
3:18:50
I do not believe. Neighbors will start the.
3:18:52
Season on that roster, I do not and if the Giants rush him back
3:18:56
because that's. What they're trying to do.
3:18:58
Let me ask you a question if the team is going to suck, why get a
3:19:01
receiver that you know might not be worth that pick when you can
3:19:05
get, you know, the tackle that you need for the future to.
3:19:08
Protect your young quarterback. I just think tackle's way more
3:19:10
valuable than a receiver because especially if it's a deep
3:19:12
receiver draft, you know, go get somebody in the second and third
3:19:15
round take maybe get someone better than that.
3:19:17
I don't know if this is a very deep receiving.
3:19:19
They they say it's one of the deepest receiver drafts, like
3:19:22
second, third deep, second, like third day guys in the middle,
3:19:25
like it's supposed to be really good.
3:19:26
I don't it's not the. 2020 draft.
3:19:28
I'm not. I'm not betting on that.
3:19:29
I'm not a top end guy, but it's for a slot receiver.
3:19:32
Very rarely are slot receivers first round picks.
3:19:35
It's only been. You know in recent years where
3:19:37
you see. Guys like Zay Flowers who play
3:19:39
inside and. Outside kind of go in the first
3:19:41
round but true slot receivers like Wandell Robinson their
3:19:44
second round picks. Where do we go from the giants
3:19:46
of course fish goes right to the giants in in all the
3:19:49
conversations. NFL draft is a Giants fans best
3:19:53
day of the year every year. I don't know about that it's.
3:19:55
Not when now with Joe, Shane drafting your guy Fish fish on
3:19:59
Toby Draft, Eli, Apple and Evan. Neal Well, it's not like I'm
3:20:02
looking forward to the playoffs. Errol, what am I?
3:20:05
What else am I supposed to look forward to?
3:20:08
Well. You guys love the John Harbaugh
3:20:10
move. We'll see how that works, but.
3:20:11
I do. I John Harbaugh loves Caleb
3:20:14
Downs. I love Caleb Downs.
3:20:16
I'd be OK with that pick. Well, I think Caleb Downs,
3:20:19
somebody's going to trade up for him and I think The Jets.
3:20:22
Sitting there at 2, I don't think The Jets care.
3:20:24
What's the highest the safety's ever gone?
3:20:26
Speedy feels like a trivia. Question we should have, I will
3:20:30
say this, it doesn't it, it doesn't really matter it it
3:20:33
matters if. If the guy's a playmaker and he
3:20:35
can change the change your roster and and with the Browns.
3:20:39
And what they're destined to do, they're brought in an offensive
3:20:41
coordinator, an offensive mind. They want their defense to be
3:20:45
shut down, type of defense. And Downs is one of the best
3:20:48
leaders as far as the secondary is concerned, as everybody says
3:20:51
he is. And I, I've heard that the
3:20:53
Browns are very connected. 2 Downs and Caleb Downs could go
3:20:59
to I, I could see him. First of all, a lot of people
3:21:01
think they go, he's going in the top five, but I think that he
3:21:05
can absolutely somebody like the Browns would move up and, and
3:21:08
snag him up. And, and by the way, they did
3:21:10
enough in, at the, in the draft last year to, to make that move.
3:21:15
If they really like Downs, they like Downs more than the
3:21:17
Gremlin. The last two safeties that got
3:21:20
taken in the top five, number five overall were Eric Berry,
3:21:24
who was phenomenal. He was really good and and Sean
3:21:27
Taylor. Brilliant.
3:21:29
That's how good, that's how good you have to be to go 5 And I
3:21:33
think and I think safety and I think Caleb Downs.
3:21:35
Is that guy? And I, and I do believe that I
3:21:38
think that the Browns are going to look at The Jets and a lot of
3:21:42
teams are going to look at the. Jets and say, well, what would
3:21:44
you want for us to move up to two?
3:21:47
You're still going to get your guy.
3:21:48
The Browns are going to say you listen, you're drafting right
3:21:51
behind the Giants. You're still going to get a big
3:21:53
time pass rusher and we'll give you an extra first round draft
3:21:56
pick next year and a second round draft pick or a third
3:21:59
round draft pick this year and a fourth this year.
3:22:02
If if that happens, you don't think The Jets are going to do
3:22:05
that 100% The Jets are going to be incentivized as well because
3:22:09
it wouldn't surprise me based on their draft history too.
3:22:11
They did Honey Badger, they did Isaiah Simmons and Arizona takes
3:22:13
him a three either. That's an interesting wild card
3:22:16
to think about. I I do believe Downs is going to
3:22:18
be a guy that he's the wild card and if he has a good combine,
3:22:21
which a lot of people think he will, he could jump.
3:22:24
From maybe 7:00 or 8:00 where they're predicting him to beat
3:22:29
all the way to 3 or maybe even 2.
3:22:32
So, and I think I think it's the Browns.
3:22:34
If there's anybody that's going to jump up from 6 to 2 and not
3:22:37
have to give up a ridiculous ton, The Jets might ask for two
3:22:40
first round draft picks for that.
3:22:42
Are are the Browns willing to do that?
3:22:44
Maybe. I mean, getting getting this
3:22:47
year is in next year's draft pick or they got two first round
3:22:50
draft picks this year, right? I think they do.
3:22:51
Yeah. They have the Jags at the back
3:22:53
like 20. They'll take the The Jets would
3:22:55
say, listen, we'll take the Jags 23 pick.
3:22:57
We'll take we'll take your sixth round pick this year and we'll
3:23:00
take another one of your. First round draft picks next
3:23:03
year. And then The Jets have four
3:23:05
first round draft picks next year.
3:23:07
They're still getting Bain or one of their top pass rushers
3:23:10
that are going to fit that roster right now.
3:23:11
They're still going to get their corner and maybe, hey, Tyson
3:23:14
could fall to them at 23 and they can get their wide receiver
3:23:17
over there as well. The Jets could set themselves up
3:23:20
very, very by the way, they have the Cowboys 1st pick in the
3:23:24
second round, which is the number one pick of the second
3:23:26
round so that The Jets could honestly get 4 or you know, four
3:23:31
first round draft picks in the first picks this year.
3:23:34
They could build their own. They could build their team in
3:23:36
the next two years. I would also, if he's there at
3:23:39
16, I mentioned Peter Woods from Clemson defensive tackle.
3:23:42
I would consider that at 16 as well.
3:23:43
If The Jets get all those picks. I mean, the The Jets are going
3:23:45
to be set up really, really well if they do.
3:23:47
That and I could see the Browns making that move if they really
3:23:51
want. And I'm hearing go read it up on
3:23:53
any of the Brown. Stories that Caleb Caleb Downs
3:23:57
is the guy they want. If that happens though, that
3:23:59
means an elite talent falls to the Giants.
3:24:02
It there's one of these guys like Reese, you know, some guys
3:24:07
don't want to take. Someone off ball that high,
3:24:09
right? But are the Giants going to
3:24:11
need? Arizona would take Reese.
3:24:13
Yeah, Arizona will take Reese. But I think, I think so.
3:24:16
And that's what we're hearing. But Arizona's a dumb franchise.
3:24:20
Arizona's. Done.
3:24:21
Really dumb stuff. In the last couple of years.
3:24:24
I mean, they have a new coach, maybe they have a new direction
3:24:26
now, but teams that screw up screw up a lot.
3:24:30
It's interesting. It's interesting.
3:24:32
And that's why we're we're speaking about it.
3:24:33
And that's what's fun about, you know, getting ready for the
3:24:35
draft and and seeing where teams are going to be looking.
3:24:38
And I'm telling you right now out of.
3:24:40
All the teams drafting in the top five or top 6, The Jets are
3:24:45
more likely out of all the teams being that they're not getting
3:24:48
the quarterback they want to trade out of #2 full back four
3:24:51
or five spots, still get a ton back for it.
3:24:55
And they'll be sitting pretty this year and next year.
3:24:58
Think about it this way. If The Jets trade down from 2:00
3:25:01
to 4:00 and they get 2 first round draft picks this year and
3:25:05
next year they will be getting their 6th and their 23.
3:25:08
They'll have, they'll have four first round draft picks because
3:25:11
they're drafting in the in the top of the second round.
3:25:13
Somebody's going to fall to them at at 3233.
3:25:16
Somebody's definitely going to fall them.
3:25:18
And by the way, they have another second round draft pick
3:25:20
early in the second round. I just don't know if you're
3:25:22
going to get them anyone's going to really want to trade for the
3:25:25
number two pick because there's no quarterback it it with with
3:25:28
the Browns and the Browns what they're saying about what they.
3:25:31
Like about Caleb, I'm just saying like no one's like taking
3:25:34
a safety. That high is one thing trading.
3:25:37
Draft capital to move up to take a safety that high trade it's
3:25:41
ever been done they. Trade, but it's never been done.
3:25:43
I know, but that's, that's the crazy thing at #2 and that's why
3:25:46
if if you're to me, and I'll say this as a Jet fan, not as as a
3:25:50
person that's hoping this to happen if, if the jet.
3:25:53
Fan If the Jet organization is a very smart one, which I don't,
3:25:56
that remains to be seen. But if they're a smart
3:26:00
organization and I think they have the right GM in place and
3:26:02
you've seen what he's done in the middle of a season and
3:26:05
surprised and shocked a lot of people what he did.
3:26:08
Don't be surprised if he has something in his back pocket.
3:26:11
Sitting there at six or seven to let A-Team jump up just a couple
3:26:15
more spots to get the guy they want.
3:26:17
For them to get still the same guy they want and get a bunch
3:26:21
more capital for next year. Because that's the year that The
3:26:24
Jets are going to be sitting and looking for their future
3:26:27
quarterback. If you're sitting with four
3:26:29
first round draft picks next year, two of them in the top
3:26:32
ten, possibly you're going to get the guy you really, really
3:26:35
want. If you, if you want I, it
3:26:39
depends on how everybody, what kind of season they have.
3:26:41
If you want Manning, you want more, you want seller, you want
3:26:45
one of these guys, you're going to get your pick because
3:26:49
nobody's going to say, hey, we, you know, I'll give you 3 first
3:26:53
round draft picks to move up to one or two to get the guy that I
3:26:56
want. I think The Jets will be sitting
3:26:58
really, really pretty to get the guy that they really want.
3:27:00
So I think that's what I think. And and you know what, Jet fans,
3:27:05
you can only hope that's going to happen anyways.
3:27:07
We call this Dial it up. We interrupt this regularly
3:27:10
scheduled hot mix to bring an important news book.
3:27:12
We got a big broadcast to do here.
3:27:15
We're about to dial it up, Chris says.
3:27:19
As a Jet fan, hard. To pass up on Reese.
3:27:22
And you're right, it is hard to. Pass up on Reese.
3:27:25
But here's the thing, Chris, if you're.
3:27:27
Sitting right now. And you jump from 2:00 to 6:00
3:27:30
and you still get Bane, you're still getting a projected top
3:27:34
end pass rushing talent at #6 So I wouldn't cry about that now.
3:27:38
All right, let's dial it up. Everyone's favorite Lightning
3:27:42
Round sports segment where we're going to get some stories Errol
3:27:46
has not seen and then he's going to react and one of us will.
3:27:48
React to his. Comments.
3:27:50
Here we go. Let's start it.
3:27:51
Off Errol, we got some good ones.
3:27:53
Apparently I'm freezing up a little bit, so I'm going to
3:27:55
bring it down and put it back up.
3:27:57
Here we go. First one, we haven't talked
3:28:01
about the MVP debate. Well, Lebron's talking about it.
3:28:04
Errol LeBron endorses the Celtics, Jaylen Brown, who just
3:28:10
gave him the business the other night in a game where the Lakers
3:28:14
got torched by the Celtics for MVP.
3:28:18
Well, I wanted you to to take a look at this because currently
3:28:20
Jaylen Brown is sitting in 6th right now in MVP odds behind
3:28:26
Shay Gil. Just Alexander who they're
3:28:27
saying is having an even better year this year than he did last
3:28:30
year. Second is Nicola Yokich and then
3:28:34
Cade Cunningham is sitting in 3rd in MVP odds, followed by
3:28:37
Wemby and Luka. Then at plus around 4000 to
3:28:41
5000, Jaylen Brown is in 6th. Errol, what do you think about
3:28:45
Lebron's comments here? Dial it off.
3:28:48
He's on. He's out of his mind.
3:28:50
He's lost his mind because Nicola Yokich is the best player
3:28:53
in the NBA. He should win his fourth MVP,
3:28:55
Should have won the MVP. Last year he has the most triple
3:28:58
double S right now in the league.
3:28:59
I think it's 21 to 22. He's absolutely dominating.
3:29:02
The Nuggets are not even a really good roster and he's
3:29:05
still putting up ridiculous numbers.
3:29:06
His shooting percentage is 1 of the highest it's been in the
3:29:09
last three years. He's doing everything right for
3:29:12
his team. He's making his team just, you
3:29:14
know, staying afloat and the Nuggets are still a top four,
3:29:17
top five team in the Western Conference.
3:29:19
You can't argue Nicola Yokich is the best player in all the
3:29:23
basketball. He should have won last year and
3:29:26
he will. He will win this year.
3:29:27
There's no way Gilchus Alexander is going to win the MVP this
3:29:32
year. You could book that.
3:29:33
There's no way the NBA is going to steal this away from Nicola
3:29:36
Yokich this year. I absolutely the MVP.
3:29:39
Lebron's on drugs. He's lost his mind, and maybe he
3:29:41
just needs to retire. Step away.
3:29:43
Run away. So long, LeBron.
3:29:46
Take your pie eating ass or whatever you want to do whatever
3:29:50
you're doing in your offseason. And LeBron is one of the he has
3:29:53
one of the craziest workouts, but he needs to eat something
3:29:56
and put on some weight and and retire already.
3:29:58
I don't want to see or hear any more of LeBron James's takes.
3:30:01
Yeah, well, Jaylen Brown was the same guy that made him cry about
3:30:04
his son because he took shots. I was just going to say, I think
3:30:08
he'd always try to make up for it because he knows that.
3:30:11
Obviously they're not going to face in the playoffs if they
3:30:13
play in the Finals, but if they play in next year, if LeBron
3:30:15
does go to, back to. Cleveland or go to Miami or
3:30:17
whatever. And has to face Jaylen Brown in
3:30:19
the playoffs now he said he needs to be a kissed ass like
3:30:20
he's trying to be with everyone else all of his generation of
3:30:23
basketball players. So I yeah I definitely think
3:30:26
that's what it's going on in an angle.
3:30:27
Jaylen Brown was not thought of as a top five in anything that
3:30:30
I've seen as far as an MVP conversation.
3:30:32
You're looking at. Yeah, Leoka, you're looking at.
3:30:34
You'll get SGA. You're looking at Wendy.
3:30:36
Like there's going to be other options before Jaylen Brown.
3:30:39
All right, let's keep it rolling.
3:30:41
Next one, we're going to change sports.
3:30:43
We're going to head to the Bronx.
3:30:44
Arrow Jazz. Chisholm wants 30. 5 Not, not
3:30:51
thirty $35 million. A year.
3:30:56
On an 8 to 10 year contract for his next deal is expiring right
3:31:02
now his last season, it looks like his last season with the
3:31:07
Yankees. Errol, that's pretty wild
3:31:10
statement right there from Mr. Jazz.
3:31:12
One of your favorite players. Dial it up.
3:31:15
Mr. Jism needs to go and do whatever he does in the
3:31:19
bathroom, in his private life and his private time, because
3:31:22
there is no way in hell. Anybody is giving him an 8 to 10
3:31:26
year deal worth about $35 million.
3:31:28
I don't care if he puts up 50 and 50.
3:31:30
I know Nathan reached out to me over the weekend.
3:31:32
Did you hear what Jazz is saying?
3:31:33
That he's going to be one of the first, He's going to be the
3:31:35
first player to do 50 and 50 or the second player?
3:31:38
Because we know, you know, Tony did it.
3:31:40
He, he, he, he's got something to prove this year.
3:31:42
I don't care if he has 50505050 home runs, the fifty stolen
3:31:46
basis, it's not going to make a difference.
3:31:48
There is no way anybody including the New York Yankees
3:31:51
are going to give them that, not even the Dodgers with deferred
3:31:54
money. That will happen.
3:31:55
He's going into a strike year, which is bad for him and you're
3:31:58
going to probably miss the season that you're going to get
3:32:00
paid. So even when the strike is over,
3:32:03
if it ends sometime next year, there is no way that the new cap
3:32:08
or the salary cap or whatever they're going to be doing with
3:32:10
the negotiations. Anybody is giving Jazz Jism an 8
3:32:15
to 10 year deal worth of $35 million.
3:32:17
There's no way in health, there's no way they're going to
3:32:19
give a second baseman that kind of money no matter how good he
3:32:21
is in the Bronx, especially in a short porch and playing for the
3:32:24
Yankees. Yeah, I don't know what what
3:32:27
Jazz thinking here. I know he he talks and he had a
3:32:31
good season last year. He's been really good with us,
3:32:33
you know, the last year and a half or.
3:32:35
So, but you know, he's kind of got that that moxie tune, that
3:32:40
swagger. So I wouldn't expect anything
3:32:42
less from a guy like Jazz Chisholm.
3:32:44
Now look, I don't mind it, but clearly no team, the Yankees,
3:32:50
nobody's going to give them that.
3:32:52
You don't mind? Hold on one second, Dom.
3:32:54
You don't mind that the Yankees gave him an 8 to 10 year deal
3:32:57
worth of 35? No, no, no, I don't mind.
3:33:00
Like his moxie and swagger. I hate.
3:33:02
It I take that chain of his and choke him with it.
3:33:05
I can't stand that guy. I think his moxie his.
3:33:08
Personality doesn't fit in the Bronx.
3:33:10
I don't care how. Many people, how many players in
3:33:13
that locker room loves him? I don't care what people are
3:33:16
saying in the dugout, how much they love his dancing and
3:33:19
prancing around and, and, and doing what he does on and off
3:33:21
the field. I don't like it.
3:33:23
I didn't like Nick Swisher when he did it and I definitely don't
3:33:26
like jazz jism. OK, at least Nick Swisher was
3:33:29
quietly doing it in the locker room.
3:33:32
This guy is out there and about wearing his big ass chains and,
3:33:35
and doing things on and off the field and he's on social media
3:33:38
yapping his big mouth and and pretty much making himself look
3:33:42
like a complete moron. I don't like it.
3:33:44
I don't like the moxie. I don't like his personality.
3:33:47
It doesn't fit here in New York as far as I'm concerned.
3:33:49
I don't know. Where does it fit, Errol?
3:33:51
Like, where do you fit Jazz Chisholm?
3:33:54
The New York Mets? What's a good place for the New
3:33:55
York Mets? He's big.
3:33:56
He played with the Mets 7th infielder.
3:33:58
Oh yeah, the Mets. It fits.
3:33:59
Perfectly. The Mets will take him on.
3:34:01
They'll pay him and he can yap and dance around and prance
3:34:05
around as much as he. Wants.
3:34:07
I mean. Maybe they move him to 3rd.
3:34:08
Base and they move Beau out to the outfield in the long run
3:34:12
that could happen. I mean, that's typical what the
3:34:14
Mets are going to do and and they think they're smacking the
3:34:17
Yankees in the face. They're making themselves like
3:34:19
look like complete idiots so Steve Cohen could say whatever
3:34:22
he wants. It's complete ridiculousness for
3:34:24
the New York Mets to do what they're doing right now.
3:34:27
That's all I'm going to say it. It just feels like Cashman is
3:34:29
like, Oh no, don't take Luke Weaver.
3:34:32
Don't you know, it just seems like they didn't try really hard
3:34:36
to dude Cashman. Is laughing to the bank on what
3:34:39
the Mets are doing. He's yeah, I think so too.
3:34:41
Pretty ugly. Well, let's get into some Laker
3:34:44
history. The Lakers.
3:34:46
Unveiled Pat Riley statue. Of him raising his hand, which
3:34:52
was symbol to call the play to get the ball to Kareem so he
3:34:56
could do the skyhook. That was literally what he would
3:34:59
do and it was the best play call that you could have.
3:35:01
It's just like a real simple thing that everybody knows
3:35:04
about. Pat Riley in his famous Armani
3:35:06
suit. If you ever got that to see the
3:35:08
movie Wall Street. The character Gordon Gekko is
3:35:13
based off of Pat Riley in his hair.
3:35:16
Actor Michael Douglas. I was watching something said
3:35:18
that I was in the car with Pat Riley.
3:35:20
I was in a convertible and his hair didn't move.
3:35:23
I said that's what the characters got to be.
3:35:25
And that's that's how Gordy Gekko ended up looking like.
3:35:27
He did pretty crazy. Errol, I know that you're a big
3:35:32
fan. He was a Knicks coach in the
3:35:34
90s. Before that, the Showtime Lakers
3:35:38
dial it up. The Knicks did them dirty
3:35:40
because there should be a statue over there at Madison Square
3:35:43
Square Garden of Pat Riley. He should have gotten the GM
3:35:45
job. He should have gotten the
3:35:46
executive job. And.
3:35:48
Maybe, I don't know. Some of those guys would have
3:35:50
decided, including LeBron James. Dwyane Wade might have been
3:35:53
drafted by the Knicks because the Knicks would have sucked or
3:35:55
he would have had some kind of game plan when it came to
3:35:58
looking at him from Marquette. Maybe you bring Chris Bosh and
3:36:01
maybe they have that trio for a couple of years and win multiple
3:36:05
championships. Here's the thing.
3:36:07
Pat Riley should have had a statue over there with the
3:36:09
Lakers a long time ago. He's the greatest coach that the
3:36:14
Lakers ever have. Yes, even better than Phil
3:36:16
Jackson, because I'm going to tell you why.
3:36:18
When you're talking about reevaluating this team and
3:36:21
really developing Magic Johnson, he was the guy.
3:36:26
He was the guy that developed Magic Johnson.
3:36:28
He was the one that really put that team together.
3:36:31
Kareem Abdul Jabbar to play his game the way Pat Riley wanted to
3:36:34
run his offense and his defense defenses as good as Phil Jackson
3:36:38
was in the time that he had Kobe Bryant, yes, and Shaquille
3:36:41
O'Neal, Kareem Abdul Jabbar and we the 1:00 we call Magic
3:36:46
Johnson, we're a better duo than Kobe and Shaq.
3:36:49
I'm sorry. They were and and to me, the guy
3:36:52
that really revamped that team and changed that team.
3:36:55
And remember, he was an assistant coach that got offered
3:36:57
the job because they fired the they fired a coach after winning
3:37:01
a championship because they didn't think he fit the culture
3:37:04
of the new the the Lakers. Well, Pat Riley took over and
3:37:08
did nothing but win. Pat Riley should have had a
3:37:10
trophy. He stands for something greater
3:37:13
than just the Lakers. He stands for brilliance.
3:37:16
And he was a championship. Yeah, a championship college
3:37:19
basketball player too. So this guy won everywhere he
3:37:22
went. Won everywhere he went.
3:37:25
So should have had he should have a trophy a long time ago.
3:37:28
You know, I got to watch those that HBO show they did.
3:37:32
They only had like a season of it where Adrien Brody played.
3:37:35
Go look at Lakers dynasty. Go look at the Lakers.
3:37:38
I. Watched, I watched the real
3:37:39
stuff too, but I just thought it was like the whole point of that
3:37:43
show was just like, because Pat Riley.
3:37:45
Was so charismatic you can make a whole show about.
3:37:48
It Pat Riley was the man behind everything he like.
3:37:52
He brought the Knicks to relevancy in the 90s playing a
3:37:55
brand. He's like this is this is what
3:37:56
we're going to have to win. So this is what we're going to
3:37:58
do. And that's what he and it was
3:38:00
completely different than what he did in the 80s with the
3:38:02
Lakers. He went to that Piston style of,
3:38:05
you know, basically try to beat up Jordan, try to beat up
3:38:08
everybody, slug it out low scoring games.
3:38:11
He he did whatever it took to win.
3:38:13
And obviously he was a champion, not with New York.
3:38:15
Unfortunately, as many of us New York fans still have
3:38:19
championship. He went to a championship.
3:38:21
Championship and not. Yeah, he did.
3:38:24
And we know what happened. Yeah, Charles starts that day.
3:38:27
And Charles Smith, who? Can't hit up a layup?
3:38:30
Charles Smith was the year before.
3:38:32
But he couldn't hit a layup. He couldn't hit a layup in five
3:38:36
tries. At the end of the game, it was.
3:38:37
One of the worst things in Knicks history, but.
3:38:40
Pat Riley was there for he was. It was just like an epitome of.
3:38:43
Class. Out.
3:38:44
There. I thought and you know, I'm a
3:38:46
huge fan. I think everyone that's a
3:38:48
basketball fan is a huge fan of Pat Riley.
3:38:50
Most deserving statue anyone's ever gotten.
3:38:53
It is kind of curious that they waited this long though.
3:38:56
Errol. I don't know if it was an issue
3:38:58
with the Bus brothers didn't like him.
3:39:01
I would imagine since they're gone he seemed to get a statue
3:39:03
pretty quickly as soon as they left.
3:39:05
So that's my theory. Jeannie Buss is probably the
3:39:08
best basketball mind besides her father Doctor Buss that actually
3:39:11
knows what she's doing the the bus family really after his
3:39:16
their. Father died, ruined that
3:39:18
organization and Jeannie was trying to keep it afloat so and
3:39:21
now she's still the president of the organization and and LeBron
3:39:24
James taking shots at her recently was just absolutely
3:39:26
pathetic. It just shows you how stupid he
3:39:28
really is. So LeBron is pretty dumb.
3:39:32
Here's a dumb one as well. Lindsey Vonn.
3:39:35
We taught this is following up on a dial it up from 2 weeks ago
3:39:38
when Lindsey Vonn crashed. When she went down the downhill,
3:39:42
one of the the most dangerous ones in the world, they say,
3:39:47
with a torn ACL, as expected, she wiped out.
3:39:51
She apparently wiped out so badly Errol that she had to have
3:39:55
numerous surgeries to save her leg from being amputated after
3:40:02
the crash. It is one of the most disgusting
3:40:05
things I've ever seen. Again, she took somebody's place
3:40:08
on the Olympic team in order for her to just to put her life in
3:40:11
danger. It says she had.
3:40:13
The injuries went far beyond the complex tibia fracture in her
3:40:18
leg. It led to compartment syndrome
3:40:21
in her leg. High pressure builds up from the
3:40:23
muscle, the bleeding and it gets worse, blah blah blah.
3:40:28
They had the filet or open. It's just disgusting this entire
3:40:31
article Errol I, I I just don't understand why someone would try
3:40:37
to do this in the Olympics no less.
3:40:40
Dial it up. Well, Alex Smith came back from
3:40:43
that horrendous injury. We saw how bad that looked and
3:40:46
and nobody thought he was going to come back after having
3:40:49
multiple surgeries and some. People thought he was going to
3:40:51
lose his. Leg I I Has anybody seen Alex
3:40:53
Smith's leg? How do you like how ugly it
3:40:56
looks? It looks like somebody beat it
3:40:58
with a pipe and then beat it with an axe and it looks
3:41:02
horrible. But Lindsey Vonn, she's a, she's
3:41:05
a born winner. She wants to compete and she
3:41:08
wanted to win another medal. And she thought that she compete
3:41:10
with can compete with a torn ACL because of her skills and her
3:41:15
ability to to do what she has done at a top level for such a
3:41:18
long time. She went out there and she tried
3:41:20
to prove it with a 20 ACL. Could you imagine if she won a
3:41:23
bronze or a silver with a torn ACL?
3:41:25
How how much she can go out there and say that on the Lenos,
3:41:28
but there's no Leno anymore, but the felon show or the Kimmel
3:41:31
show. Well, I did this on a torn ACL.
3:41:34
I mean, and I won. I won against the best in the
3:41:37
world. So she only wanted to go out
3:41:39
there and prove that she can do it at a high level.
3:41:41
And, and obviously she couldn't. It's horrible to see and to to
3:41:44
hear all the different surgeries she had something done with her
3:41:47
hip and all the different stuff that needed to be, you know,
3:41:50
fixed for her to keep her leg. It's a hard and she's they're
3:41:54
saying she needs multiple more surgeries to make sure that
3:41:57
she's going to be healthy enough to walk again.
3:41:59
So it's horrible. And her father came out and
3:42:01
said, how could the Olympic team absolutely let her skate, ski,
3:42:05
ski with, with all these different problems she's had
3:42:09
going into this Olympic training and an Olympic championship, you
3:42:14
know, run. So her father was upset about it
3:42:17
and says she's definitely not going to ski ever again.
3:42:19
Yeah, yeah. You can't take the competitive
3:42:21
spirit out of somebody, especially with somebody pushing
3:42:23
as hard as it was. It was unfortunate with the
3:42:25
timing of the first injury just happening two months before that
3:42:28
and I guess because. She's fought so hard to get to
3:42:31
this point, to even get to there.
3:42:33
You, you didn't want to take it out of her, but obviously you
3:42:35
knew the risk that was run. The Alex Smith analogy is
3:42:36
perfect because you're dealing with somebody that was later in
3:42:39
their career too. And again, I think with Vons,
3:42:42
her sports a little more dangerous.
3:42:44
Obviously, like you said, the mountain was very dangerous too,
3:42:45
Alex. And you're going to see Lindsey
3:42:47
Vonn, she's going to be a broadcaster for the Olympics
3:42:49
six, you know, in four years she's going to be the voice of
3:42:53
the ski team and United States skiing because she's.
3:42:56
Loved by everybody and she, she's a beautiful woman.
3:42:59
I mean, she's really something to look at still at the age of
3:43:02
41. So she's going to get another
3:43:04
opportunity to at least go out there and, and be something in
3:43:08
the future as long as she can walk.
3:43:10
But horrible to see somebody that almost was one of the
3:43:14
greatest skiers of all time to almost lose her leg because of
3:43:18
her coach saying that. Well, her practice run, she made
3:43:21
it down the hill so she could do it in competition.
3:43:24
That's ridiculous. You have to go faster and on on
3:43:26
one of the worst and one of the hardest hills to ski in the
3:43:28
whole world. She did it on a torn ACL.
3:43:31
It's tough with the snow sports because of how much different
3:43:34
types of I guess like different platforms that you have or
3:43:37
you'll have the the moguls with the snowboarding is different
3:43:40
than the slopestyle from. That and both of them have
3:43:42
skiing variations too, but the downhill one with the with the
3:43:45
turns is particularly hard and it's not a surface that is
3:43:49
really sustainable either. And if it's done that badly, as
3:43:51
we've seen it do, it's always a big risk.
3:43:53
But again, you just he just goes spat of the spirit out of her.
3:43:56
So she's she was going to try and it just sad.
3:43:58
Glad that she didn't have her leg amputated.
3:44:00
But hopefully these other surgeries are just as successful
3:44:02
because it's it's really, really scary.
3:44:05
Hey, just like they said in Friday Night Lights, you want to
3:44:08
win, put boobie in. I can't believe she they let her
3:44:11
do this. You know, it was it was like
3:44:14
somebody who just. Needed to be told no.
3:44:16
You're in your 40s and you're really banged up.
3:44:20
No, what are you doing? You're going to kill yourself.
3:44:23
She's a beautiful woman, but she might be the most beautiful one
3:44:26
legged woman you know if this doesn't go for her way.
3:44:28
It's just really sad that people in decision making not only let
3:44:33
her do this, but it's also the Olympics.
3:44:35
They could have been some 18 year old kid that could have
3:44:38
gotten a shot instead of putting this woman up to risk.
3:44:40
So we got one story left. Let's cheer it up because this
3:44:44
one made me laugh so many times. I had to put it in to dial it
3:44:46
up. Errol, I don't know if you saw
3:44:47
this, but it was inside the NBA after the in the Knicks during
3:44:53
the Knicks game. And Oh my God, I'm going to play
3:44:56
it for you. Well, Barkley made quite a faux
3:44:59
pas in this game. Shaq and Kenny Smith couldn't
3:45:04
stop laughing. Neither could I.
3:45:06
Well, he basically says instead of the Knicks, he says Dicks and
3:45:11
he says it over and again and they can't stop laughing.
3:45:14
It would have been cooler if I could play it, but the Internet
3:45:17
doesn't love me right now. Errol, I need you to tell me
3:45:22
what is the funniest thing that you've ever seen in a broadcast
3:45:29
or you've been a part of in a broadcast.
3:45:31
That was a accidental saying that didn't get anyone fired,
3:45:35
right? Has to be funny because we know
3:45:37
about a whole ones that have gotten people fired over the
3:45:40
years. Well, well, Mikey, see, I mean
3:45:44
we going back and forth one show and we were sitting there and
3:45:49
they were people on our. IPads.
3:45:51
Because we were on we were on a couple of platforms and he
3:45:56
started talking about dating girls and and what he does
3:45:59
dating girls. And I said, well, what is the
3:46:00
craziest thing you ever did? And he told me, he says, well, a
3:46:04
couple of dates, he stuck a couple Oreo cookies up his ass.
3:46:07
And if the girl, if the girl can grab it with his her mouth and
3:46:11
grab more than five out of his ass, that she's a must, she's a
3:46:16
must. She's like a must win girl that
3:46:19
he could take home and sleep with.
3:46:20
So he, he, he judged the girl by sticking Oreo cookies up his ass
3:46:25
and having them grab it with his mouth without using their hands.
3:46:29
They're her mouth without using her hands.
3:46:31
That was the craziest thing I've ever heard.
3:46:33
And he was serious about it too. And I'm, and he's to this day,
3:46:37
he's always serious about it. If you hear, if you ask him,
3:46:40
he'll tell you. He used that many, many times on
3:46:43
the show. And, and he said that, listen,
3:46:46
you don't know what kind of girl you have until they can do
3:46:48
something crazy. So I, I couldn't believe it.
3:46:54
And I sat there and I was like, so you stick Oreo cookies up
3:46:57
your ass? And he said yeah.
3:47:00
And. He said and they.
3:47:01
Actually eat them, he says. I don't know if they eat them,
3:47:03
but they grab them, so I guess they eat them.
3:47:06
It's disgusting, but that's the craziest thing.
3:47:09
As far as Charles Barkley is concerned, he doesn't like the
3:47:13
Knicks. We all know we don't like the
3:47:14
Knicks. So he's got a lot of weird
3:47:16
things and weird takes about the Knicks.
3:47:18
So instead of calling the Knicks, he calls him the Dicks.
3:47:20
So I I guess that's his take to it.
3:47:24
Even when the Knicks were great, playing great basketball last
3:47:27
year in the playoffs, but he picked the Knicks to lose
3:47:30
against the Celtics in four games.
3:47:32
And then when the Knicks won like 3 games in a row, he was
3:47:35
like well he's like I guess the Knicks are going to win this
3:47:37
series. He's like the the Celtics, they
3:47:40
they're just too many injuries and things aren't going their
3:47:42
way. He will never give the Knicks
3:47:44
any credit for the what they've built and how much talent they
3:47:47
have because he doesn't want to see the Knicks ever win a
3:47:50
championship. Because for some reason, I think
3:47:53
I know he's friends with Charles Oakley and for some reason he
3:47:56
just doesn't like the organization and or he always
3:47:59
wanted to be a Knick and the Knicks never wanted him.
3:48:01
So I think that's that could be the reason why I don't know.
3:48:05
Charles Barkley has his own, you know, agenda, hidden agenda.
3:48:09
So that's it. Isn't it like a nightmare,
3:48:11
though, Speedy? Like you say something like that
3:48:13
by accident. You don't even realize it.
3:48:15
I mean, we all make mistakes when we're talking.
3:48:17
That's pretty bad. He said Dicks, you said.
3:48:20
Numerous amount of times so he knew what he was saying.
3:48:22
No, no, like he didn't realize he said it and then I I think he
3:48:27
might have slipped back in the Knicks.
3:48:28
He just. Had no idea he said it and Shaq
3:48:30
did like one of those things where he's still talking and
3:48:32
being. Serious.
3:48:34
He also said another thing where he he does, he does a lot of
3:48:37
these like talking about banging in the post.
3:48:40
He he he gets a little too into talking about that.
3:48:44
I don't know what's up with Chuck sometimes.
3:48:46
Yeah, I was gonna bring up the Brett Musburger one.
3:48:48
Probably the weirdest 1 though. But go after I've heard Mikey C
3:48:53
is probably as far as the craziest thing on.
3:48:56
Air, I think he said some of the craziest stuff.
3:48:59
The weirdest? Stuff I've ever heard in my
3:49:01
entire life. And Tyler Harrison with some of
3:49:03
his weird case, some of the weird takes he's ever had, has
3:49:08
been one that some that I can never forget.
3:49:11
So but Mikey C is is to me. One of the most.
3:49:15
Unique individuals when it comes to women and his take on his way
3:49:21
of picking a good one and and not picking the right 1 so it's
3:49:27
some of the weirdest takes I've ever heard on on a radio show
3:49:31
anyways that was dial it up ladies and gentlemen thank you
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3:49:38
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Who do we have on on Thursday? Nobody yet.
3:50:39
Nothing yet. And if it's working on
3:50:41
something, I should. And I'm going to reach out to
3:50:42
Neil Smith as well. Try to get him on.
3:50:44
Yeah, I definitely like to hear Neil Smith's take on Team USA
3:50:47
Hockey. And Neil Smith is a Canadian, so
3:50:50
I'm sure he didn't like the. Fact that you're not USA won.
3:50:54
The Olympic gold medal. But by the way, what Team USA
3:50:58
did with Goudreau and Johnny Goudreau and his family for him
3:51:02
and his brother was sensational. It shows the heart and soul of
3:51:06
this United States hockey team and how how much and how
3:51:09
important the Goudreau family meant to every single player
3:51:13
from, you know, from top to bottom.
3:51:15
The youth and and and the future of Team USA Hockey stands for
3:51:19
something. When you see Johnny Goudreau's
3:51:22
United States 15 jersey being held up while they're skating
3:51:26
around the ice and celebrating. So it was sensational, it really
3:51:30
was. And seeing his kids get a chance
3:51:32
to be on there it is speedy. I mean, not speedy Fish is
3:51:37
posting up on a social media. All the kids are on the ice, but
3:51:39
the players taking pictures with the team.
3:51:41
So it was nice to see and shout out to Bill Guerin, John Van
3:51:45
Beesbrook and Team USA Hockey for doing and, and really doing
3:51:52
something special like that and inviting the Goudreau family to
3:51:54
celebrate this unbelievable feat, which took 46 years to do.
3:51:59
So a long, long time. And hopefully it doesn't take
3:52:02
that long again, because we do remember 1994 for the New York
3:52:06
Rangers, and it's been a long 1A, long one for you Ranger
3:52:10
fans. Neil Smith knows all about it.
3:52:11
Yes, he does, because he's the one that built that team.
3:52:15
And the Rangers pretty much threw the Wolves.
3:52:17
Yeah, threw them to the Wolves and he was the one that traded
3:52:20
John Van Beesburg and we had our.
3:52:22
Conversation. So I love Neil.
3:52:23
Now he he kind of made me feel good about why he traded John
3:52:27
Van Beesburg. And he gave me.
3:52:28
His his take on it. So thank you to Neil, thank you
3:52:30
to all the fans. We will be back on Thursday.
3:52:33
Until then, this is Arrow and the the clan of jabbing the
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