Latest / The Big Mig Show / Bazzel Baz, ‘BLACKLIST’, CIA Operative, Warrior, Rescuer, Author EP592
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- 0:00All men are created equal, that they are endowed by their
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- 0:44Of course I'm your host Lance Miliaccio with my Co host George
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- 1:25All right, George B Man, what's going on there, brother?
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- 7:09Of course we're, we're, we're joined by Basil Bass.
- 7:11Today he's known as the patron St. of impossible causes.
- 7:15Basberg's an extraordinary life of covert operations at the CIA,
- 7:19Hollywood storytelling and counterterrorism expertise to
- 7:22every conversation. A former CIA intelligence
- 7:25Special Operations Group officer and U.S.
- 7:28Marine Corps counterterrorism officer, he's a decorated
- 7:31veteran. He served at the highest levels
- 7:33of U.S. intelligence, A graduate of The Citadel and recipient of
- 7:36the Intelligence Commendation Medal.
- 7:38His missions remain classified, but his impact is unmistakable.
- 7:42He's masterfully transitioning his operational experience.
- 7:45You guys probably know him from the hit series Blacklist into an
- 7:49influential career in the entertainment industry.
- 7:51He's the founder also, and I love this part.
- 7:54You know how we are about the child trafficking on this show.
- 7:57We've done everything we can to expose it and support those that
- 7:59are fighting it. He he he's created the
- 8:02Association of the Recovery of children.
- 8:05It's an elite non profit dedicated to rescuing missing
- 8:07and exploited American children from trafficking and abduction,
- 8:12often conducting missions others won't touch.
- 8:15I could go on and on. Here, let's get him in here.
- 8:17There's no reason to waste any more time.
- 8:18No. Welcome to the big, big show,
- 8:21Basil Bass. How you doing, Sir?
- 8:25We got no audio. Good to be with you guys.
- 8:28Thank you so much. Hey, Bass, thank you so very
- 8:30much for joining us, man. You know, we always feel like on
- 8:33this show that, you know, time is the most valuable commodity
- 8:37that any of us has is that clock ticks.
- 8:40Listen, you know that there's so much to talk about with you, but
- 8:42I think we've got to start maybe at the beginning.
- 8:45I think it would agree if you could share with the audience
- 8:48how you went from the US Marine Corps and decided that the CIA
- 8:52was the right choice for you. Yeah, thank you.
- 8:55Thanks for having me. Kind of a funny story.
- 8:58I was at the national war and being a counterterrorism and
- 9:09guys walked up to me these CIA badges of all things, which is
- 9:16kind of unusual. I thought.
- 9:17I thought everybody you know from that, from that
- 9:19organization stayed invisible. And they said, Captain Boss,
- 9:24how'd you like to do God's work? And I was like, I don't really
- 9:28know what that means. So they said, well, we, we've
- 9:31been watching you and we have some interest in you and
- 9:34wondered if you would be interested in talking to us
- 9:38about a career in the CIA. And I said, well, I said, let's
- 9:43have a conversation. And they said, well, we'll be in
- 9:46touch. And they just disappeared.
- 9:49They walked down the hall and I was trying to figure out, wait a
- 9:52minute, I didn't give them any of my contact information, how
- 9:55to be in touch. So about literally about a week
- 9:58later, I get a note on my desk that said, go see Colonel Norman
- 10:04at this certain building at Quantico.
- 10:08And so I took a walk down there wasn't very far from where I
- 10:11was, where I was working. And it was this building, unlike
- 10:15all the other Marine Corps building, generally spit and
- 10:18Polish grass was growing up. Paint was coming off the off the
- 10:21wall, off the outside walls and and the door.
- 10:24And so I thought maybe, maybe I'm at the wrong place, but I
- 10:26knocked anyway and the door opened and a lady and civilian
- 10:30attire said Captain Boz when I walked inside this rundown
- 10:36building and and then and Shannon ran at Colonel Dorman's
- 10:43office and I walked in and here's this like, you know,
- 10:48shiny oak floors and bookcase and everything but Marine Corps.
- 10:53It reminded me of some great, you know, great writers room, so
- 11:00to speak. And what I was looking at was
- 11:02the back of a leather chair, top of somebody's, you know, crew
- 11:08cut haircut and a trail of cigars.
- 11:11I said, turn dormant, Captain boss reporting his words.
- 11:15And he swings around in the chair and I'm looking at this
- 11:18marine of a Marine, you know, heel, blue eyes, square jaw.
- 11:23And he takes the fire stick out of his out of his mouth and sets
- 11:26it down and says, Captain Boss, I understand he's been a
- 11:30country. And of course, I hadn't told
- 11:33anybody that that I had even had spoken with him and I didn't
- 11:38really know what to say. And he looked at me and he said,
- 11:44naval attache aunt gave me a day hotel had gunned down by
- 11:50terrorists. And I said, yes, Sir, that
- 11:54incident, he said, but did you hear the rest of the story?
- 11:58No, Sir, I'm not sure what you're talking about as well.
- 12:01That attache picked himself up off the off the dirt, opened his
- 12:05briefcase, pulled out of Zuzi and took quote.
- 12:08And when those sobs came back, he gunned them all down.
- 12:11He walked back in the Hilton Hotel and said, give me a
- 12:14doctor. They got him a doctor.
- 12:16And that son is why I stay in the Hilton Hotel.
- 12:19So he goes and he said saying that naval attache, that was me
- 12:24and I was working. Hey, and I'm here to ask you, do
- 12:26you want to join the CIA? And I didn't, I still didn't
- 12:30really know what to say. And he said, well, you just
- 12:32think about it. As I was walking out the door, I
- 12:36stopped and I turned around and said, Sir, if you were me, what
- 12:38would you do? And he swivels around and back
- 12:42in the chair. I'm looking at the same picture
- 12:44that I saw when I entered, the back of the leather chair, the
- 12:48top of his head, the trail of cigar smoke.
- 12:51I hear him say, why'd you win the CIA if I were you, boy?
- 12:55And about two weeks later, I disappeared from the United
- 12:58States Marine Corps and I ended up in, let's say, yes, social
- 13:03activity service, SOG Ground branch.
- 13:05And we're surrounded by some of the most amazing war fighter you
- 13:10can ever have in your life. That's how I got there.
- 13:15Thanks, Badge. We lost Lance for a minute.
- 13:17He'll be coming back. I don't know what happened.
- 13:18He just threw me for a loop, so I had to change our shot
- 13:20options. So he's back.
- 13:24Hold on. Let me bring him back in.
- 13:28Lance, can you hear us? Yeah, You know, I I don't know,
- 13:31maybe the CIA doesn't want him to talk and they wanted to cut
- 13:33me out of the discussion over here.
- 13:37Who knows? At the end of the day, I had a
- 13:40short blackout. It was like a one second
- 13:41blackout. But of course, everything reset.
- 13:44Never good. You know, it's funny.
- 13:46They they, they it was interesting.
- 13:47I, I went to Colorado State University and they were
- 13:51recruiting on campus and I actually was challenged because
- 13:55a lot of my friends thought I was the perfect fit for the CIA
- 13:57and they challenged me to go walk in for the interview.
- 14:01And, you know, because I'd always been into combat sports,
- 14:04I was always in good shape and I had kind of, my whole history
- 14:07might have been a good fit, you know, but I think I let the, my,
- 14:11my own personal greed at that time, probably a bad decision.
- 14:14Maybe I should have done it, But I actually interviewed really
- 14:17well. They pursued me for weeks after
- 14:19this because they, I guess I did fit them all.
- 14:21Then I'd done some additional testing they gave on campus and
- 14:25it was interesting. I didn't take that path.
- 14:27Now, in retrospect, I kind of wish I had, but I went down a
- 14:30different route. I ended up being, years later,
- 14:33I, I, I started training, I was doing training for lots of
- 14:36different organizations, close quarters battle techniques, hand
- 14:40to hand knife fighting, all that sort of thing.
- 14:42So I ended up becoming a government contractor later on.
- 14:46I'd done some work and I worked with, you know, Blackwater,
- 14:48Halliburton, United Defense, Sabre and a couple others, did a
- 14:52bunch of international work. But as I circle back and now
- 14:57that I've gotten older, I kind of feel like maybe working for
- 15:00the government might have been a good move for me.
- 15:02It was a good fit I think, cuz I was pretty comfortable around
- 15:05those guys. But it was interesting.
- 15:06You're right. They kind of have a laid back
- 15:09style to the point that I thought when I walked out, I
- 15:12thought, Oh yeah, they freaking hate me.
- 15:15There's no way they want me. And it turned out it was the
- 15:19exact opposite. So interesting stuff, George.
- 15:22Have we thrown up his picture yet?
- 15:23I don't know if I missed that with him.
- 15:24And I want to talk about which one.
- 15:26The one with him next to the CIA logo there.
- 15:29There's one. Yeah, yeah, there it is.
- 15:31There's the shot they took. They took that off your website.
- 15:34You know, what's really interesting about your
- 15:36background is that you also the recipient of the Intelligence
- 15:39Commendation Medal and a lot of other exceptional performance
- 15:42awards. I know the CIA.
- 15:44Those are pretty you. You really have to do some heavy
- 15:47lifting for them to even get considered for those.
- 15:50They don't quite give those out maybe as easily as some of the
- 15:52military forces do. Can you give me a little
- 15:55background on that? I know there's a lot of covert
- 15:56stuff you can't talk about, but maybe some of the stuff that led
- 15:59in generalized statements. What led to you receiving some
- 16:02of those awards and medals? Yeah.
- 16:05Well, I think I think the best way to set it up is to say that
- 16:09when I came in, they were choosing people that didn't want
- 16:14to reward for anything. You know, it was very clear that
- 16:18if you were the type of individual that could be a
- 16:20silent warrior, do your job, not expect anything, oftentimes not
- 16:25even a thank you and you were satisfied with that.
- 16:27You were the right person. And I still agree with that to
- 16:29this day. To be honest with you.
- 16:32All the people that I learned from who were or there from
- 16:38there, they were from or you know, former Navy Seals, all the
- 16:43old, old warriors, so to speak. That's the way they live their
- 16:47life and that's the way I was taught.
- 16:49So to receive something was actually always quite a
- 16:54surprise. And not that we weren't
- 16:57grateful, but really didn't really didn't talk a lot about
- 17:02it or go yeah, I deserve that. Maybe particularly in in light
- 17:07of all your friends that do, you know, that are are buried down.
- 17:11There's a star on the wall for them and stuff like that.
- 17:13So I think it's, it's safe for me to say before I talk a little
- 17:17bit about that, that there are much finer.
- 17:21Why learn from. And then I owe my life and my my
- 17:26expertise to those guys, in addition to my dad, eighth group
- 17:30guy way back, you know, But these these are the men and
- 17:34women that I found myself among when I got there.
- 17:37And I was just blown away. These are the people that just
- 17:39kind of disappear into the dark. You don't ever know what
- 17:42happened to them. And then one day get someplace
- 17:44like Ground Branch site. Oh, my gosh.
- 17:46Yeah. It's Ron Franklin, former
- 17:48Sergeant major, Delta Force, you know, or whatever it may be.
- 17:52That particular Intel star I got from our work in Mogadishu,
- 17:57Somalia, It was a handful of ground branch officers that had
- 18:01gone in early to do what we did, you know, you know, basically
- 18:06collecting Intel and a few other things.
- 18:08Whatever was required of us, I didn't, didn't really expect it
- 18:12to come out of that, anything to come out of that because or to
- 18:16receive that, because there had been so many things along the
- 18:18way that we had all been confronted with.
- 18:22And I think we, we obviously only were success, successful
- 18:27and the outcomes. And you just came back and you,
- 18:31you did your laundry, you packed your clothes and you just went
- 18:34back out. In those days when I came on
- 18:36board, weren't very many of us at Ground Branch?
- 18:38I think, and I'm this man number may not be correct.
- 18:41I think like 23. That was it for the entire that
- 18:44I know our office was very small.
- 18:47All of that changed after 911 as, as you know, George and and
- 18:53Lance. Grew.
- 18:55Exponentially to fit into whatever the the congressional
- 19:01agenda was that chasing terrorists ISIS, yeah, you know,
- 19:05the Taliban and this goes. So I'm I'm I'm proud of it.
- 19:10It's a nice looking thing. It sits on my wall and A and a
- 19:13kind of a, you know, a room that I don't let many people in.
- 19:19And it's just a good reminder of of doing the right thing.
- 19:23And, you know, and that's that's what you always want to do.
- 19:26A lot of the guys in ground Ranch mission focus to to the
- 19:31Dutchman of their marriages most of the time remember things they
- 19:35said don't get married if you're which won't last, and that was
- 19:41true. There are a few officers in
- 19:43there that are still married and that amazing wives, but I'd say
- 19:48a percentage of us that didn't listen and we're not in those
- 19:52marriages. You know, I think for a lot of
- 19:55people, they don't realize the sacrifice that comes with covert
- 19:58operations. You know, the interesting part,
- 20:02you know, I spent a lot of time around covert undercover
- 20:04operatives and lots of different agencies and even some bunch of
- 20:08people from different international teams, MI 6,
- 20:11Mossad and others. And I spent a lot of time in the
- 20:14Middle East and Northern Africa during that time period.
- 20:16But you know, the, the undercover operatives, they're,
- 20:18they're kind of a unique kind of a, a, a, a beast.
- 20:22At the end of the day, they're interesting individuals as far
- 20:25as how they operate, but the sacrifice they make when it
- 20:27comes to their personal connections and families, it's
- 20:31it's one of the things I think people in the in the American
- 20:33public really estimate, underestimate.
- 20:36Do you feel like your your life was considerably released on a
- 20:40personal level because of your participation in the CIA?
- 20:44It was better. Is that what you asked?
- 20:46No, I don't know if it was better necessarily.
- 20:48I mean, do you feel like your personal connections were
- 20:50considerably different than outside the agencies, outside of
- 20:54your, your work teams that that you you weren't as able to be as
- 20:58personal with people? I've heard this before that some
- 21:00people felt disconnected. Yeah, you know, I think it's how
- 21:04you live your cover, to be honest with you, Lance, I I
- 21:07think that if you make a big deal that it's going to be
- 21:10difficult for you to engage in life because now spy or you're
- 21:14in the cover. I guess some people develop that
- 21:19attitude. I just kind of always went with
- 21:23the flow. It's like, OK, by day I'm this,
- 21:25by night I'm that it's not a big deal.
- 21:27It's just what you have to do to protect your family.
- 21:29Check, you know, your mission and stuff like that.
- 21:32So I, I, I think overall my life was is far better from the
- 21:38people I met than operations within the CIA.
- 21:42It isn't better. It isn't better by all the
- 21:44people I met in the CIA. And in fact, Jeremy, now talk.
- 21:47I wouldn't even go back and see right?
- 21:50Now, yeah. It's so it when Obama went in,
- 21:53it got so corrupted. Yeah.
- 21:55Clinton, Obama and Bush and all those guys.
- 21:58And it's not place. And I only know this because
- 22:01obviously, even though once you're out as you, you can be
- 22:04out. And people believe that's not
- 22:07true. They go, well, you're never out.
- 22:08Well, yeah, yeah, you are. But you still maintain those
- 22:11friendships and connections and you still kind of keep your, you
- 22:14know, your hand on the pulse of the of the organization.
- 22:18And it's not the same place if it's going to ever be as
- 22:21effective as it was in the days of Bill Casey.
- 22:24Our spies were real spies. And we really did our job
- 22:27instead of getting weaponized by politicians.
- 22:32They're going to they're going to have to step on the gas
- 22:33pedal. It's going to have to be cleaned
- 22:35up and the right people are going to have to be put in.
- 22:38Otherwise, it will not only become the biggest dragon in the
- 22:41room for 47, it will become the biggest dragon in the room for
- 22:45all the corruption that currently exists there.
- 22:48What they manage on the level of corruption.
- 22:52And we, you won't be able to control it.
- 22:53It will run a nation. I mean, this is an organization
- 22:56that I belong to that we overthrew governments.
- 22:58We don't think they have the capability to overthrow the
- 23:00government that they are supposed to be aligned with.
- 23:04In the wrong hands, they'll do the same thing to the United
- 23:07States that they did to other governments.
- 23:09Good or bad, it doesn't really matter.
- 23:11I mean, during our time, I considered stopping communism
- 23:15and, and the pursuit of democracy a good thing, but when
- 23:21it falls in the wrong hands, you're having just the opposite
- 23:24happening in your own country. And I think we who are kind of
- 23:27on the in the trenches know that what has happened with the deep
- 23:30state state is real. It's not to promote democracy
- 23:36and support the Constitution. It is just the opposite.
- 23:40The challenge we have is as the war isn't being fought out
- 23:42there, it's being fought on our own soil.
- 23:45And so I tell people, you know, just because 47 is in battle is
- 23:49actually just beginning. Trust me, you know, people have
- 23:52no idea. We thought it was ugly when we
- 23:54got to look behind the veil. It is uglier than we could have
- 23:58ever. You know.
- 23:59On Lance. Lance, hold.
- 24:00On Yeah, George, please hold. On Basil can you raise your mic
- 24:02volume as high as you your settings allow it and Lance
- 24:05lower yours so he can balance out because.
- 24:08OK. Please.
- 24:10All right. How's that guys?
- 24:13Is is that the highest it can go?
- 24:15Yeah, that seems to be the highest it can go.
- 24:17George, is that better? No lower Lance.
- 24:20Sorry guys. I just want to get this right
- 24:21for you guys, OK? No problem, I don't work at.
- 24:24Bike here part of the process. Yeah.
- 24:26George, how's that better? Yeah, thanks.
- 24:28OK. Yep, you got it.
- 24:30Glasses back on. That's why I'm trying to raise
- 24:32it as high as I can on my end so it balances out.
- 24:35It's all good, all. Right.
- 24:38You know, a lot of people, the public narrative, right, the
- 24:42public narrative about how we're pursuing democracy and how the
- 24:45agencies, that's what their prime, you know, goal is not
- 24:51really the case. You know, I worked around a lot
- 24:52of different operations over the years, you know, doing
- 24:56diplomatic security and facility security and all kinds of other
- 24:58things. And I didn't have any military
- 25:02background. So I came in a bit a different
- 25:03way. I was training contractors and
- 25:06I, I, I'd come from a gun culture and been raised, you
- 25:08know, shooting my whole life. So I was pretty adept early on
- 25:13with those skills. And then I focused on all my,
- 25:15you know, fighting skills for years and years and years.
- 25:19But when I was around those people and I started to see kind
- 25:23of what was really going on, Like you said, when the veil
- 25:26gets pulled back, you recognize that what we're being told is
- 25:29considerably different than what's going on now.
- 25:32I was already phasing out by the time 9/11 came on.
- 25:35I wasn't doing any more private work any longer.
- 25:38And what I thought was interesting is the stories that
- 25:41I would hear from people that I was still close with and I'm
- 25:43still close with now. You know, the the stories behind
- 25:47Hammer and Hammer, you know, the Hammer supercomputer and the
- 25:50surveillance and so many other things when it had to do with
- 25:53ECHELON and Carnivore and the programs that are now
- 25:56declassified you can talk about and the way they were using them
- 26:00to spy on Americans. And of course, it seemed like
- 26:04Kennedy got it right when he said the CIA need to be
- 26:06scattered to the winds. His insight maybe back then was,
- 26:10you know, maybe maybe a little premature, maybe the agency was
- 26:13still doing good work, but he wasn't comfortable with maybe
- 26:15the direction it was going. Of course, a lot of people
- 26:18believe he was assassinated because of it.
- 26:21Even now, we're supposed to get all those files.
- 26:23But there's many things the government is even this
- 26:26administration is hasn't really gone.
- 26:28They said, oh, we're going to release all the Kennedy files.
- 26:30And Rodger Stone is probably one of the premier Kennedy experts
- 26:34has said he's truly believes they haven't released all the
- 26:36files for a number of reasons. Things he won't talk about
- 26:39because, of course, he served with, you know, and was in the
- 26:42White House with four different presidents in different roles.
- 26:46And he knew a lot. Of course, he was extremely
- 26:48close to Richard Nixon. I think Nixon had discussed some
- 26:51of those things early on that couldn't be discussed when it
- 26:54came to Kennedy, and Rodger probably knows about that.
- 26:56But you look about the MLK vials and the RFK vials, 9/11, there's
- 27:00still lots of questions, although there seems to be some
- 27:02movement in the direction that people don't think that was
- 27:05fully disclosed. Who knows what the real, real
- 27:07story is behind it. Maybe it really is all a
- 27:10terrorist operation. But there's a lot of questions
- 27:12about how the buildings were taken down.
- 27:14I, you know, having known a lot of, you know, a lot about
- 27:16demolition and lots of EOD stuff like, you know, I question it.
- 27:20There's lots of things about that event that don't seem in
- 27:23particular was there like is there a moment you can talk
- 27:26about maybe where you started to question maybe now you see it.
- 27:30But back then was there a couple of times because I was things
- 27:32that I saw transactions, currency exchanges, weapons
- 27:37exchanges, things like that, that I kind of just walked away
- 27:41shaking my head and said, man, this can't.
- 27:43And of course as a contractor, you know, you're a disposable
- 27:45asset. That's why they use contractors
- 27:48for deniable accountability. Of course, that's that's why
- 27:50they use us. I, I would walk away thinking
- 27:53there's no freaking way we just participated was legal on any
- 27:57continent. There's no way that that should
- 28:00have even happened. Of course, I kept it to myself.
- 28:02I didn't vocalize it. I just kind of sat there
- 28:04thinking, man. And later on some of my
- 28:07experiences, it's why I stopped doing it because I, I had a bad
- 28:10interaction. I got shot and I got left behind
- 28:13and I had to walk out just about 10 clicks using dirty socks and
- 28:17duct tape so I didn't bleed out. And you know, I, I thought, man,
- 28:23this, I don't know how long my, my life, my lifeline is going to
- 28:27go here. Was there one moment that you
- 28:29said, ah, man, I don't know this, this, this might be time
- 28:32for me to find a different career.
- 28:34Yeah, yeah. There was 1 moment.
- 28:36It wasn't about finding a different career, but it was an
- 28:38eye opener for me. We were supporting an initiative
- 28:44with the and we were on our way to takedown a facility and 24
- 28:53hour the operation launched, we got an abort from Washington
- 28:59only for me to find out that the facility was a Chevron oil
- 29:03facility which was supporting and supplying the Russians and
- 29:07the Cubans the fuel they needed to fight against the very people
- 29:10we were supporting. And I remember looking at Popeye
- 29:14and he said, welcome to the club.
- 29:17This is this is a reality check for you.
- 29:20Oh, I got schooled to to understand that every operation
- 29:24I went on, I was more so protecting my buddies and my
- 29:26friends than than the war. And I just had this conversation
- 29:31with a young war fighter yesterday.
- 29:34And he was he was asking the same questions, Lance, that you
- 29:37were asking. And I said, look, every
- 29:39operation you've gone on, whether as a contractor or part
- 29:43of the military, when you get down range, do you are you
- 29:47thinking about what the political, political issues are
- 29:50behind all of this? It goes no.
- 29:52Absolutely not. You're saving your buddy, you're
- 29:54saving a villager, you're and at the end of the day, when you
- 29:57come home, you need to feel good back.
- 29:59I did. I did the right thing by doing
- 30:02that. But as we get more mature and we
- 30:05look at that from the 14,000 foot level of why we sent
- 30:08someone there to begin with, I can with absolute confidence
- 30:14tell you that we have that. We have military industrial
- 30:19complex and politicians. We have spilled more innocent
- 30:23blood from more fighters for their profit than I can shake a
- 30:28stick at. And then we know that.
- 30:30So it's not I, I and he said, what, what would you feel good
- 30:35about being a part of it needed to go back, you know, outside of
- 30:39just having making money as a contractor.
- 30:42I said I would feel good about my shores if my shores were
- 30:45being attacked here at my country.
- 30:48I said, but I'm very skeptical. Anytime I see us go over another
- 30:52country, I always ask the questions who's profiting from
- 30:54that? Who's making money from that?
- 30:56And how many of my buddies are going to die because of that.
- 30:59So I really like the sevens approach about how we should be
- 31:03fighting those battles, so to speak, be doing the long term
- 31:08stuff. I have to but that moment that I
- 31:11just explained to you made me think.
- 31:13And then I I realized there is justification for being
- 31:16compartmented in the agency. But what has happened is that
- 31:22that that system has been greatly to the point that I go
- 31:29all the way back to Iran Contra and here we are location with
- 31:33certain individuals training Contras, having no idea that not
- 31:38very far away there's another base that's running drugs for
- 31:42Bill Clinton to be in Arkansas. And when I got back later years
- 31:47with people, guys, you know, you guys were running drugs.
- 31:48It's like, no, we weren't the middle of the middle helping
- 31:51people fight a war. Had no idea.
- 31:54And that was another eye opener for me as well.
- 31:57There's no way that those deals could not have been made unless
- 32:00they were made behind our backs. But they needed distractions and
- 32:03we were the distraction and the people that died were the
- 32:06distraction. And it really pisses me off to
- 32:09be honest with you. And when, when I people go what,
- 32:12what would what would accountability look like for
- 32:14you? Accountability would look like
- 32:17finding out who was part of that and who made the money and
- 32:20hanging them with a short rope from a big tree.
- 32:23To be honest with you, you know, most patriots and most of us now
- 32:27and, and at 69, I don't really give a rat's ass people thinking
- 32:31about what are you going to do and send me back to Iraq, send
- 32:33me to Afghanistan, you know, put me in a, you put me in another
- 32:36jail cell or something, doesn't matter.
- 32:38But the truth has to be told. And people are, people are
- 32:42seeking accountability now. And I don't mean in a broken
- 32:45judicial system, people and Americans have a right to say,
- 32:49why is it that I go to jail but Hillary Clinton doesn't go to
- 32:52jail? Man, that you are speaking.
- 32:56You talk about that all the time.
- 32:58George, I'm gonna let you run with this because, you know,
- 33:01I've spoken about accountability and consequences and the rule of
- 33:04law, equal application of law, right?
- 33:07You know, equal protection of the law.
- 33:09You are talking about one of our main veins on this show and I
- 33:13and I and and then George, I'm going to say one more thing and
- 33:15I want you to I want you to because you, you and I have done
- 33:17this non-stop. You know, a lot of people don't
- 33:20recognize, you know it when it comes down to at least in the
- 33:23area that I was in, you know, the rules of engagement.
- 33:26You would think that common sense would be part of that, but
- 33:29it never was. It was always about the agenda
- 33:31of whatever mission it was or whatever, whatever operation it
- 33:35was, but it wasn't in alignment with what was being publicized.
- 33:39And you know, I think what happens, you know, you start out
- 33:42in any of this stuff bright eyed and bushy tailed.
- 33:44You're excited about it for one reason or another.
- 33:46And then they kind of take your virginity and you recognize that
- 33:52there's more shame in the game than maybe understood.
- 33:54George, go from there. Because man accountability
- 33:56consequences. That is a key element of this
- 33:59show, and common sense is a key element of our.
- 34:01Show you might have just hit you might hit a nerve there Baz
- 34:04because just look forget about Hillary Clinton.
- 34:08She should be hanging from the gallows in my opinion.
- 34:10But if you look at just right now the the couple Congress
- 34:13people the judge, how dare you arrest a put arrest or put in
- 34:18handcuffs sitting congresswoman or senator.
- 34:22They just act like they're above the law.
- 34:24You know and it's and this is the problem because like you
- 34:27said there's no consequences Baz and like you've if you could
- 34:31steal a candy bar from a store and you don't get caught the
- 34:33person's going to do it again if there's no consequence to do it
- 34:36again just like all the looting and burning.
- 34:38I have a question for you. Yes Sir and Lance is going to
- 34:41laugh but you think I say no the golden Fort Knox.
- 34:45I don't think there's really much there.
- 34:49Yeah, that's what happened. To the audit, where's the audit?
- 34:52He smiled, so he knows something.
- 34:56You know what? I I don't usually speak to
- 34:58something unless I've seen it with my own eyes, so I can't
- 35:01tell you if it is. There isn't.
- 35:02But you can see it because it's not there.
- 35:05Yeah, it's, you know, The funny thing is, they were all hot to
- 35:07trot about the audit. Elon Musk was disposing a lot.
- 35:10You, you know, there was a fallout in DC over it.
- 35:12All right, listen, we got a lot to cover here.
- 35:14We got to take a small break. We come back.
- 35:16We'll be here with Basil Baz. Of course, we're pulling back
- 35:18the veil. You may not want to hear it.
- 35:20This this isn't mainstream media.
- 35:22So you're hearing the truth right here from a couple of old
- 35:25warriors, and we're going to be continuing to do what we do,
- 35:29which is expose the truth. It's edge of the knife on this
- 35:31show always. We'll be right back with George
- 35:33Ballantine, myself, Lance Finale, Acho and Basil Bass, EIA
- 35:37Operative Blacklist, actor and author.
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- 39:14All right, welcome back to the big big show here where your
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- 39:37I started Bing watching. I love it.
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- 40:54CIA. Always CIA people.
- 40:56You know how that goes? Well, if you smile.
- 41:00I got him a smile. There you go.
- 41:03You know, you just said something while we were
- 41:07backstage. We talked about open border
- 41:09policy. We've had many on this show, you
- 41:12know, Ben Burkwell, Oscar L Blue, you know, Ann Vanderschel,
- 41:15do some more done there. Michael Yan.
- 41:17These are all friends of ours. They've been on the border
- 41:19exposing what happened, the criminal exposure of the
- 41:23southern border. Not too many people talk about
- 41:26the northern border. It's nearly just as bad.
- 41:28There's AVIP service we talked about on the show.
- 41:31I have a source that's dealt with the cartels and and
- 41:34different cartels for years. He's given me information over
- 41:38the years about different things going on and he's talked about
- 41:41the VIP service that the cartels offered for $100,000.
- 41:44They give you guaranteed entrance into the United States.
- 41:47A lot of that VIP service goes to the northern border.
- 41:50But you have done something. You've taken your skill set,
- 41:53you, you've done it. I, I think for all the right
- 41:55reasons. You created the Association for
- 41:57the Recovery of Children and now you were just talking about you
- 42:02trying to move something forward in Congress.
- 42:04I want, I want you to go into this.
- 42:05Well, this is such a great transition for you.
- 42:09And, and I can't imagine a guy better, better skilled for this
- 42:12operation, but we know that the human trafficking and child
- 42:15trafficking is much worse than any administration has ever
- 42:19discussed, even Donald Trump. It's horrendous.
- 42:23We had a lot of people that that were whistleblowers that came on
- 42:26the show. They've testified in front of
- 42:29Congress about missing children, not not only the US children,
- 42:32but of course, you know, children coming across the
- 42:35border, being brought in through cartels and then sold off into
- 42:38indentured service or into sex trade.
- 42:41Let's go into this a little bit and kind of tell me, how did you
- 42:44decide this is what you wanted to do, how you drawn into and
- 42:47kind of maybe talk about that border bill you just introduced?
- 42:51Yeah, thank you, Mogadishu. In 1993, most people know that
- 42:55from the Black Hawk Down incident that happened.
- 43:00I was, we were there, I was there with the center spike
- 43:02team, a few Marines and we rescued a couple we're not from
- 43:07that area. And then got them to say like
- 43:12there's a long story with it. But I'll just do the short
- 43:14version. Most of the kids that we saw are
- 43:18most of the bodies you see during any type of civil war is
- 43:22just kind of given this collateral damage.
- 43:25It's just, you know, it's not that you like because you're
- 43:28moving forward on your mission. And in this case, we wrestled
- 43:32with the idea of saving these little girls, but we things
- 43:38opened up and we did. We went and rescued them and got
- 43:40them back. And when I got back to the
- 43:41States, it's the first time in my life, Lance, I ever even
- 43:47asked what happens to children. I don't know.
- 43:50I don't know what I don't know what transitioned in my heart at
- 43:55that time. I, I remember sitting, I
- 43:56remember, you know, I remember having a conversation with God
- 44:00in Africa and looking up at, you know, sky blanket with billions
- 44:04of stars. And I just said, God, why?
- 44:07And it's clear that I created you.
- 44:11And I think what he was saying was not that he just created me,
- 44:14but he created people to, to get in the fight, so to speak.
- 44:18So I got back to the States and I realized that kids didn't grow
- 44:22up like me. They didn't all go to elementary
- 44:24school, high school and have a nice family and going to college
- 44:28and get a job. And that time there were 2000
- 44:31American children missing. And when I talked to my law
- 44:33enforcement partners, they said they're just missing.
- 44:36We, we don't know where they are.
- 44:37And the word trafficking wasn't a big term being used back then.
- 44:41And, and I, I kept and saying, well, yeah, but where, where are
- 44:46they missing? How are they missing?
- 44:47They're like, look, we don't know.
- 44:49We just Scrabble off as missing kids.
- 44:51Like we have terrorism, we have bank robberies, we have fraud,
- 44:55we have homicides. These are all the priorities.
- 44:56And kids were kind of at the bottom of the list.
- 44:59So I'm 93 to 96 on my holidays, I would go out quietly.
- 45:07I didn't, yeah. I didn't mention it to anybody
- 45:10in the agency. I-96 I I figured, well, I could
- 45:16do this and it needs to be done and it it became something
- 45:20bigger than overthrowing small governments for me.
- 45:22And I found based on some of the stuff Lance, you and I were
- 45:25talking, you know, about all the corruption seen and how the
- 45:29politics are playing in and other things.
- 45:32And I thought, wow, this is far greater because these children
- 45:35are the future of our country and they're unblemished to some
- 45:38degree outside of their perpetrators, what their
- 45:41perpetrators mean. They're, you know, they, they
- 45:44haven't been corrupted by other things like aside and stuff.
- 45:49So that's how we got started. 96 I jumped ship and started this
- 45:53full time. And so far, I think we're now
- 45:56one of the oldest running rescue organizations in America by
- 46:01going after and sex trafficking. You know, you got 100% success
- 46:06rate, which is pretty incredible.
- 46:10I mean, almost unbelievable really.
- 46:12And you know, and even that I'm sure you, you do, you feel like
- 46:15you're, you've only been able to, you just impact such a small
- 46:18segment of it because there's so much of it.
- 46:21Do you struggle with that at all?
- 46:22Because the, the, the tough part for me, I, when I hear about
- 46:26human trafficking or pedophilia or people like, you know,
- 46:30Epstein, man, I have to be honest.
- 46:33And George knows I struggle with this a lot.
- 46:35I, there's a lot of dark thoughts to come to mind.
- 46:37Some of them include an industrial wood chipper.
- 46:40And you know, the, the, the mindset I have is that you can't
- 46:44fix those people. They're unfixable because I
- 46:48believe that, that, that decision, because for, for the
- 46:50people that don't, you know, this whole thing about maps
- 46:53that, that trying to neutralize and, and, and, and make it
- 46:57mainstream, coming up with minor attracted persons.
- 47:01You know, I'm, I'm really disgusted by all of it.
- 47:03You know, it's, it's one of those things that I, I think
- 47:05it's a simple solution, you know, life sentences, death
- 47:08sentences, because I think these are the kind of people, when you
- 47:10look at the mental health crisis in the United States and I look
- 47:13at the, the brainwashing that's allowed to happen.
- 47:16I am not a fan of TikTok, you know, I know there's some decent
- 47:20content that shows up on there, but I truly believe it's a
- 47:22Chinese operation and its intent to undermine the youth in the
- 47:25country. You know, the idea that licking
- 47:29a toilet bowl for a challenge is a top priority to get views and
- 47:33clicks. Or some of these these people
- 47:36that are, you know, gender influencing our children.
- 47:40They're trying to groom them at such an early age and they get
- 47:42on their men dressed as women and tell them, oh, you can talk
- 47:45to me, but you don't need to talk to your father or what's
- 47:47happening in the school systems. We covered a story that George
- 47:51and I sometimes bring up. It was a the, what was it
- 47:54called? The Rainbow Butt Monkey?
- 47:56George, was that right? Don't bring that shit up.
- 47:59The Rainbow Butt Monkey was somebody that was hired to, to
- 48:03do storytelling at the, at the, the local library.
- 48:09And I thought about this, this, that the idea that this this
- 48:12butt monkey that had a naked butt and actually had a large
- 48:16dildo hanging from him, that this was supposed to be somebody
- 48:18that was going to be reading books to our children.
- 48:21And I thought about who came up with this garbage.
- 48:24What's really the plan? It's got to be a much more
- 48:26nefarious operation. And this is where I'm leading
- 48:29with this question for you, as you've done this recovery, how
- 48:33organized do you feel like this is?
- 48:36And how high does it go up in our government?
- 48:38Because that is one thing that the mainstream media never wants
- 48:41to discuss. It's always swept under the rug,
- 48:44not, you know, the Epstein situation that they, they're
- 48:48doing everything they can to hide it.
- 48:49I heard from a very, very, you know, a guy that I trust, he was
- 48:54in every one of the raids. They came out of there with
- 48:57Israeli technology was what they were using for surveillance.
- 49:01We know that Elaine Maxwell had access through her father to the
- 49:05Mossad. I always believed that Epstein's
- 49:07entire operation was blackmail, influence peddling and of
- 49:10course, extortion and bribery. It was all about that.
- 49:14I don't think the guy ever made a legitimate dollar, but I think
- 49:16he, he got people, he compromised them and then he
- 49:19took videos and surveillance and audio.
- 49:21But they're acting like now all of a sudden Cash Patel and
- 49:24others have come out and said, oh, I don't think there really
- 49:25is any of that, which I, I know that not to be true for fact.
- 49:31How much, how much have you seen that you think the operations,
- 49:34it isn't just one child missing, that these are operations that
- 49:36lead all the way back up into the the higher echelons of our
- 49:39federal government? Well, I'm going to address that,
- 49:47but if let me address this first.
- 49:52The purpose of losing children's identity is to not only
- 49:56breakdown the family union, America, but to destroy the
- 49:59fabric of America, children of the future.
- 50:03So the process in doing that revolves all around all those
- 50:10things that you're talking about minor attractive persons.
- 50:13We we if we normalize, we normalize things in our society,
- 50:19people get so used to it and you're able to proceed with it.
- 50:24And so these are they're important aspects of children
- 50:36have become such a commodity for multiple reasons, money
- 50:41laundering, evil lust, human lust and the list goes on and on
- 50:49and on. So what has happened in America
- 50:53outside of just deviant laws, you know, deviant lifestyles, is
- 51:01that at the highest level of not only governments, but outside of
- 51:06governments with people that have retired from governments,
- 51:11they make a lot of money. They launder a lot of money
- 51:15through whatever commodity is the biggest seller.
- 51:20And children are the biggest commodity for sale around the
- 51:23world, whether it's for sex, whether it's for organ
- 51:25harvesting, whether it's for adrenochrome or whatever it may
- 51:28be. And so I can tell you about
- 51:33about divulging some some very sensitive information, but there
- 51:37are people that are are at the top of the food chain that
- 51:43necessarily do not represent a government, but represent an
- 51:47industry that makes all of this move Child sick trafficking.
- 51:53If you look at what came across the border that, you know,
- 51:56common sense that just didn't happen overnight.
- 51:59It was orchestrated. That means people took meetings.
- 52:01This means people had conversations.
- 52:03That means people supply transportation.
- 52:05It means money. They exchanged hands between
- 52:08cartel and US personnel to make it all work.
- 52:13It means you had to put stops in place.
- 52:16You had to put people inside. You had to have a coordinated
- 52:19effort and a communication system that would be undisturbed
- 52:24so that you could continue to have your way.
- 52:27Most people don't know this, but you know, when we brought a lot
- 52:29of those children in, you know, they were given to MVM, Catholic
- 52:33Charities. Why is the CIA a part of MVM?
- 52:37And MVM was what? You transported the kids across
- 52:39America and into Europe. Why did we take kids over to
- 52:43Europe? None of it makes sense.
- 52:45So what about that money? How many billions of dollars
- 52:48were laundered so that that could happen?
- 52:51And what was the purpose of that?
- 52:52Was it so that we would have one day kids here that we don't vote
- 52:56Democrats? Was it because there was money
- 52:59being made and they didn't really care about the kids?
- 53:01Or where are the 500 UAC 500,000 UA CS, and where the 438,000, if
- 53:07that's the exact number American children were missing before
- 53:11that, we don't see a million children just walking the
- 53:13streets. So the question is, what's
- 53:15happening to them? What happened to the commodity?
- 53:18Where is the commodity? If you look at HHS, they had a
- 53:21lot of data on that. Most people don't know this.
- 53:24So when the Biden administration left office, they corrupted that
- 53:27data. Question is, why did they do
- 53:30that? Now we're having to go back into
- 53:32HHS, certain people and, you know, fix all of that so that we
- 53:37can find out where they did go. We know that a lot of kids, we
- 53:41know this for a fact. A lot of kids were brought in.
- 53:43They were dropped off to MS13. They were dropped off the
- 53:46pedophiles. They were dropped off to
- 53:47sponsors who were not their family members.
- 53:50So when I look back and we were the first team on the ground for
- 53:53the night flights that came in in Chattanooga, TN, they were
- 53:56bringing children in. And I coordinated some of the
- 54:00operation with TBI, Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.
- 54:04And they said, no, it's on the up and up.
- 54:05The governor knows, only to have the governor a week later say, I
- 54:08didn't know anything about this. So, and sent a report up to ICE
- 54:12and ICE responded and said the Biden administration is in
- 54:15charge of this and it's held his hands off.
- 54:18So the truth of it is, is the Biden administration, including
- 54:24the president, the vice president and whoever else
- 54:26authorized it in HHS are listen in.
- 54:33The crime of child sex trafficking or child trafficking
- 54:36wasn't something that was approved.
- 54:38Congress didn't vote on it. The American people didn't vote
- 54:40on it. And now the mystery is why.
- 54:43Why? You know, we're still digging in
- 54:45to find out why. Hey, Baz, if you had any
- 54:47interaction, she's been on her show.
- 54:49We're we're friends with her. We we've done everything we can
- 54:51to support and move Tara Rodas. Tara's a very good friend of
- 54:54mine, she and I. She was actually up in DC with
- 54:57me in this last meeting with and Congresswoman Nancy Mason's
- 55:02office. Yeah, we've had all her people
- 55:04and her group on the show. We've jumped in and done as much
- 55:07as we can to expose it. You know, it's it's a struggle
- 55:10though, right? We, you know, you and I could
- 55:13look at that and say this is definitely an operation.
- 55:16People at the highest levels of our government are involved.
- 55:18Doesn't mean the government's involved.
- 55:19It means that those individuals are involved and they're using
- 55:21their power and influence to grease the skids.
- 55:24You know, there was a story that I heard from somebody in the
- 55:28know during the El Chapo hearing.
- 55:32He started to vocalize all the individuals he had given money
- 55:37to it within the US government. And then they cleared the
- 55:41courtroom and they stopped him dead in his tracks.
- 55:43We also covered a lot of the stories.
- 55:45And what's interesting that a lot of people don't recognize is
- 55:48that the open border made the cartels so much money.
- 55:54They have lifted their game. We got some stuff that we
- 55:57covered from that one source. I was telling you, these guys
- 56:00look like the best special forces operators.
- 56:02Now they are equipped beyond equipped.
- 56:04They've got AP VS from South Africa.
- 56:07They bought, you know, lots of weapons from Afghanistan right
- 56:10off the dark web. You know, Barretts that have all
- 56:12been traced back that we've seen this, the, the serial numbers go
- 56:16right back to the US government. You know, they've got the quad
- 56:18mono goggles, they've got cell phone jammers, you know,
- 56:22sophisticated multi antennae jammers that you know, I'm, I'm
- 56:25talking about the big units that cost, you know, 40-50, a 100,000
- 56:29each in the back of SUV. They're running in teams.
- 56:31They're getting trained by some of the best contractors from
- 56:34around the world. People don't really recognize
- 56:37that that money has also escalated this to a whole
- 56:41different level. You know, George, he mentioned
- 56:44something. I know this is a hot to try
- 56:46topic. For you I've been waiting for
- 56:48this one yeah so bad I mean they'll call us conspiracy
- 56:52theorists and I'm OK with that label because 99.9% we're we've
- 56:56been right I want to ask you about adrenochrome because I've
- 57:01you you can there's places that even sell it but I've seen cars
- 57:04in other countries with bumper stickers you know for Unicron
- 57:07coal here what's your take on it and then are people like you
- 57:13know Hillary Clinton and other notable scumbag politicians and
- 57:17this is on both sides are they are they taking it like what do
- 57:21you got I. Don't know if they're taking it,
- 57:23but I do know the first, first introduction to it, we had a a
- 57:27girl we rescued and she was giving her her story to us.
- 57:31We were right putting in a, an Intel package.
- 57:34And she talked about how she'd been taken to a building, how it
- 57:37looked like a hospital, how they had hooked her up with
- 57:42electrodes, how they had blood coming out of one arm into the
- 57:44other arm, and how they would shock her.
- 57:48And she didn't know what it was all about.
- 57:49And when she was telling us the story, we didn't know what that
- 57:51was all about either. We thought, wow, it's like
- 57:53torture. Why would somebody do that only
- 57:56to find out about a year later about adrenochrome and going,
- 58:01wow, that's what they were doing.
- 58:03So the product is real. You can buy it on the black
- 58:06market. People know how to get it.
- 58:09Suppose you know, blood drinking has been around for thousands of
- 58:12years when it comes to giving you strength and beauty and anti
- 58:16aging. I can't tell you what Hillary
- 58:18Clinton does or doesn't do with that, but I will tell you this.
- 58:23It's not working for her if she's doing it but.
- 58:25Well, that was my next. This is my next.
- 58:28She's actually inside. Out this is my.
- 58:31This is my next question. It might not be working because
- 58:34ever since Epstein's island was and Epstein was taken down, I
- 58:37think their supply kind of dried out for them.
- 58:42So yeah, what what what's your, what's your, you got any
- 58:45experience on Epstein Island knowing like who was there, what
- 58:48was going on? We were we were punching the
- 58:51Epstein case 15 years before it got blown up and no one would
- 58:56listen to us. And that's the way it generally
- 58:58is with a lot of good NGOs in the field that have access to
- 59:01intelligence. They're trying to get it going
- 59:03and no one wants to listen and no one wants to listen.
- 59:05And eventually something like this happens and we go, yeah,
- 59:09see, we told you it's a, here's a, here's a good one for you.
- 59:14I have a file that someone that's no longer in the federal
- 59:18government gave me of Nancy Pelosi standing next to the
- 59:20cartel. Question is, why won't anybody
- 59:22do anything about that? How is it that it went and Obama
- 59:26saw it and he switched it? So, you know, there's another
- 59:30one that we have to we have to look into as well.
- 59:33You know, so there is. Yeah.
- 59:35How? About that birth certificate,
- 59:36you know, how about the fact that he never should have been
- 59:39president of the United States? His own brothers called out.
- 59:42Lots of information, You know, You know.
- 59:45How about the fact that the aircraft that brought the
- 59:47children in was was bankrupt five years earlier and now all
- 59:51of a sudden they're flying kids in?
- 59:53And guess who's the shareholders are?
- 59:54BlackRock and Vanguard. Would you like a list of all the
- 59:57senators in Congress that have investments in BlackRock and
- 1:00:00Vanguard? We got that too, so.
- 1:00:02Yeah, I think BlackRock and Vanguard is a much more
- 1:00:05dangerous institution. I had some interactions with
- 1:00:08them years and years and years ago.
- 1:00:10And I think that people are underestimating what they're
- 1:00:13really up to. And to me, I, I wouldn't allow
- 1:00:17it to go on, but I'd probably be called a dictator.
- 1:00:20I'm one of those guys that would, you know, I wouldn't ask
- 1:00:22for permission. I, you know, I would, you know,
- 1:00:26hope that maybe the American people would understand after I
- 1:00:28expose it. I want to make sure we give you
- 1:00:31some time. You're a public speaker and all
- 1:00:33this. Website's up.
- 1:00:34Yeah, I wanna listen cuz, man, we could go on and on and on.
- 1:00:37We're gonna. We definitely need to have you
- 1:00:38back on the show, maybe bring it on our radio show also, because
- 1:00:42I got, I got to tell you, there's so much that you and I
- 1:00:43think I probably, we could probably talk about and compare
- 1:00:45notes. So let's talk about so you, you,
- 1:00:49you clearly you got this incredible operation art going
- 1:00:53on. You're you're doing motivational
- 1:00:55speaking, but let's talk about the acting.
- 1:00:56I'm sure everybody wants to know about Blacklist.
- 1:00:58How did that come about that you kind of we, because I'm, I'm
- 1:01:01assuming that maybe you were an advisor on some sets 1st and
- 1:01:04then they started to recognize that you were much more than an
- 1:01:07advisor, that you had a lot of potential.
- 1:01:09Yeah, thanks. Yeah, I had a career.
- 1:01:11That's how I pay the bills. As many people know, ARC doesn't
- 1:01:14get a paycheck for what we do, and we don't pay salaries.
- 1:01:17So I require everybody to go do something else to make a living.
- 1:01:21Mine just happened to be in the film industry that got started
- 1:01:24in the early 90s and and so on this case for the blacklist, I
- 1:01:30was actually spending more more of our time buy out in the field
- 1:01:33operations. And the executive producer
- 1:01:35Michael Watkins, great guy. He's the guy that actually saved
- 1:01:38the show because most people don't know this the show, the
- 1:01:42first six months of the show, it was going in the toilet pass.
- 1:01:45So they called in Michael. And by the way, the guy that
- 1:01:47Michael relieved got arrested as a pedophile for being a
- 1:01:51pedophile. Are you talking about the
- 1:01:52Blacklist show? Yeah, yeah.
- 1:01:54Really. It didn't kick off for that
- 1:01:56while in the beginning? Wow.
- 1:01:57No, no it didn't. Not at 1st.
- 1:01:58And so Mike came in. And so Mike called me up one day
- 1:02:02and he said, hey, we've got this warehouse scene.
- 1:02:05They're going to take down a warehouse.
- 1:02:06I'm wondering if you could come in and teach our stuntmen how to
- 1:02:09how to do this. And I said, well, look, I got 1
- 1:02:13better than that. What if I just call my own guys
- 1:02:14then and, and we just do it for you.
- 1:02:17And he's like, wow, Because what would that cost us?
- 1:02:20I said, I don't know, just feed them, put them in a hotel,
- 1:02:23that's it. So I called a guy from
- 1:02:24Afghanistan I know the guy from. And so I rallied up with a few
- 1:02:28of my guys that were all out in the field contracting Lance like
- 1:02:31you'd been doing. And they came in and we shot the
- 1:02:35scene pretty much all in one or two takes and had a great time
- 1:02:41doing it. Mike was just amazing.
- 1:02:44He just said go map it out for me at lunchtime and tell me what
- 1:02:47I need to shoot. And I had known Mike for many,
- 1:02:49many years. And so we came back, we shot it
- 1:02:54about a week later, maybe 2 weeks later, I think 2 weeks
- 1:02:56later, Mike, call me up he goes, you know what, NBC saw you in
- 1:03:02the editing Bay and they want to know, would you like to come
- 1:03:05back and be Co star on the show as the head of Red Remington's
- 1:03:08mercenary? I was like, OK, sure.
- 1:03:11Do I have to say anything? He goes, well I can't, I don't
- 1:03:13know what you'll have to say. So anyway, I got on the show
- 1:03:16that way and I had 4 great seasons with some amazing
- 1:03:19people. The show was great.
- 1:03:21I, I can't say enough good about James Spader and and everybody
- 1:03:24else. So that's how I ended up on the
- 1:03:26show. Yes, Spader has done a really
- 1:03:28interesting job. You know, years ago, I used to
- 1:03:30do a lot of on ground logistics and I, I ended up with this, one
- 1:03:33of my, one of my call signs was the hand of God because I used
- 1:03:36to be able to go into operations and when things went missing,
- 1:03:39like comms or other gear and equipment, I, I created a pretty
- 1:03:44decent network of people around the globe and I dealt with lots
- 1:03:46of individuals, drug Lords and you name it.
- 1:03:50And I was able to always find what we needed.
- 1:03:52And it was always kind of one of those last second, like, uh oh,
- 1:03:54where is this? We need this.
- 1:03:57And, but it was interesting watching Spader because I've
- 1:03:59always thought that the ability to do what he did and the way it
- 1:04:03was presented, and I'm sure some of that came from you because we
- 1:04:06all know about those individuals you met over the years, myself
- 1:04:09included, where there's people that you know, that could get
- 1:04:12something when you needed it might not have been through, you
- 1:04:14know, legal, a legal network, but you really recognize that,
- 1:04:17hey, I know who to call. You probably know somebody here,
- 1:04:19give me 15 minutes and I'll, I'll, I'll be back with you guys
- 1:04:22in a minute and tell you if I was able to pull this off.
- 1:04:25But I thought that was such a great premise.
- 1:04:27How much of that came from your background?
- 1:04:28Because you know, when you're on the ground as an operative or
- 1:04:31you're working as a contractor, there are lots of things that go
- 1:04:35on that you have to fix on the fly.
- 1:04:38You have to be a problem solver, not a problem causer.
- 1:04:41And how much of that came from you?
- 1:04:43Because it seemed like when I watched that, there was a friend
- 1:04:46of mine that loved that show. He actually told me, hey, this
- 1:04:48guy from Blacklist is you got to watch this.
- 1:04:50I think it's a lot like you this because he knew my background.
- 1:04:54He said you got to see this. I think they might have, they
- 1:04:56might have used you as part of the casting.
- 1:04:58He was joking around, of course. How much of that came from you?
- 1:05:00Because it seemed like a lot. Yeah.
- 1:05:03You know what's interesting? Well, actually less than you
- 1:05:07would imagine booking camp. And those guys did a great job.
- 1:05:10Now, I would in Mike's office, I would offer some things up, but
- 1:05:15they pretty much let me run how I would run an operation, you
- 1:05:20know, on on camera, just do my thing, so to speak.
- 1:05:23And and, and, and they knew it was solid, but I have to give
- 1:05:29credit really to the writers. I, I'd love to be the one to say
- 1:05:33they called me in as an advisor on this and that show was
- 1:05:36everything I gave, but that wasn't it.
- 1:05:38I don't know where they were getting their content from, but
- 1:05:40I will say this, and it's fascinating.
- 1:05:42You know, they talked about Deep State.
- 1:05:44I mean, I, these guys had it down.
- 1:05:46They really had it down. They.
- 1:05:47Really did. Because and they knew and a
- 1:05:50couple times I had people come to me and go would say, so is
- 1:05:53that how it's really done? And it's like, yeah, I don't
- 1:05:56know how you guys know that, but yeah, that's how it's done.
- 1:05:58You know, there was an individual, there was an
- 1:06:01individual that a lot of governments dealt with years
- 1:06:04ago, guy named, and you might know this name, Monzar Alcazar,
- 1:06:07the Peacock out of Belgium. Yeah.
- 1:06:10And it's, it's interesting that I always thought about that
- 1:06:14because through him I was able to make a lot of contacts that I
- 1:06:17used usually. And I always thought that when I
- 1:06:19watched that show, I thought, you know, it's interesting,
- 1:06:21Whoever's advising them has really gotten so much of this
- 1:06:24correct, that that's how those networks at the higher levels
- 1:06:28really worked. And I, I thought that a lot of
- 1:06:30the people in the public probably were like, no, come on,
- 1:06:32this is how could that be? But in fact, it was accurate
- 1:06:35because it, I, I would imagine that if you left, if you and I
- 1:06:38sat down, we had Sarah Adams on the show.
- 1:06:41You know, she was Acia, you know, Overwatch or you kind of
- 1:06:45know her background. I I imagine if we sat down with
- 1:06:47a piece of paper and you made a list of different individuals,
- 1:06:50you're like, Oh yeah, here's a guy somebody should look into or
- 1:06:52here's another guy. That network is like that.
- 1:06:54And I think a lot of people didn't recognize it.
- 1:06:56You and you did an amazing job on the show.
- 1:06:59And I think the authenticity you brought was really spot on.
- 1:07:03And I always respect that. There's something I hate worse
- 1:07:06than a gunfight with an unlimited, you know, magazine,
- 1:07:09you know, or, or watching guys, you know, do a room entry and
- 1:07:13you know, you could see that they would have been shooting
- 1:07:15each other by the way they did it, you know, So the the
- 1:07:18accuracy that you provided, at least I I always appreciate
- 1:07:21that, I guess, and maybe old, old operative or old pipe
- 1:07:24hitters, you know, and I'll speak for myself.
- 1:07:26There's nothing I can't stand worse than watching it.
- 1:07:29A fight interaction that isn't that is not correct.
- 1:07:33You, you're like, no, no, you. You'd be dead.
- 1:07:37Yeah, it was good. They gave me good liberty to for
- 1:07:40accuracy. I think that was important to
- 1:07:42everybody. But yeah, just like, just like
- 1:07:45you're saying, I think they did an amazing job.
- 1:07:47I was, I was actually amazed when I finally had a chance to
- 1:07:50go back and look at some of the episodes and the storylines.
- 1:07:54It's like, wow. And what's so interesting about
- 1:07:57that is it was almost, it was almost prophetic because after
- 1:08:01we came out of the first couple of seasons of the Blacklist, we
- 1:08:04started taking a look at the country differently and then
- 1:08:07where Deep state started coming out and the ball started being
- 1:08:10used. And so ironically, it is where
- 1:08:13we are right today. You know, we need another James
- 1:08:17Spader to be honest with you, another another red Redington.
- 1:08:20Honestly, you know, when we're talking about accountability,
- 1:08:22because what they want to do is what they always do.
- 1:08:25If they can hold off on accountability by two
- 1:08:29generations, the new generations coming up won't care.
- 1:08:32For example, if I were to tell you, hey, we know who
- 1:08:34assassinated Abraham Lincoln. It was these five individuals
- 1:08:39and they were part of the Democratic Party.
- 1:08:41Who would care if I, well, that wasn't in my time.
- 1:08:44And, and, and we've gotten better since then.
- 1:08:47And we didn't have any control over that.
- 1:08:48And they do that every single time.
- 1:08:50That's what that's what Hillary does.
- 1:08:51That's what she's doing. She's getting, she's trying to
- 1:08:54string out everything and and other people as well to the
- 1:08:58point that they'll be a generation that doesn't even
- 1:09:00know who she is. So when they end up in a
- 1:09:03position like on a trial or as a judge, whatever, it doesn't mean
- 1:09:07anything to them because people aren't about taking evidence and
- 1:09:12holding people accountable for their crimes any longer.
- 1:09:15You know, if George or myself, George, I'm going to throw to
- 1:09:19you if, if, if you and I used bleach bit and a hammer to get
- 1:09:23rid of evidence. But you know, we know what that
- 1:09:25would be, right? You know, fucking just lock us
- 1:09:27up and throw away the key. Are you kidding me?
- 1:09:30Yeah, you know, and that's the thing about it when, when they
- 1:09:32come after. You we'll be labeled domestic
- 1:09:35terrorist too, because we had classified information on a
- 1:09:39personal server. Yeah, you know, and that's the
- 1:09:42thing, you know, and, and that's what I think that I, I struggle
- 1:09:46with, even with with the Trump administration, we've been a big
- 1:09:48supporter. I was hopeful that we would see,
- 1:09:51you know, through Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi, Cash Patel and
- 1:09:54others. I thought we'd see more
- 1:09:55accountability and I thought we'd see it more swiftly because
- 1:09:58there's a lot of things that I don't think take an incredible
- 1:10:01amount of work. They've got the evidence.
- 1:10:03You know, it's kind of like what they're finding now.
- 1:10:04They covered up everything about the Chinese and the elections.
- 1:10:07Well, George and I covered that maybe a year and a half two
- 1:10:10years ago. We, we, we, we had photos, we
- 1:10:12got a hold of, we worked pretty closely with the NFSC, which is
- 1:10:15the anti Communist Party, you know, the new federal state of
- 1:10:18China. And we got copies of photos and
- 1:10:21all sorts of stuff about these places that were printing
- 1:10:23ballots and the places that were providing IDs.
- 1:10:26And we talked about it, the counterfeit ID operations, the
- 1:10:28counterfeit ballot operations. And, you know, and, and, and,
- 1:10:31and other than our audience, it was crickets.
- 1:10:34You know, it doesn't. There's an operation I know
- 1:10:36about. I've got a source.
- 1:10:38They, they keep talking about their, their big plan here is to
- 1:10:40seal up the southern border and they've got a plan, of course.
- 1:10:43And, and you know, the, the tariffs are going to stop the
- 1:10:45Chinese from bringing in the precursors or fentanyl,
- 1:10:48carfentanyl, methamphetamine. Well, the Chinese don't care.
- 1:10:51They've got a second operation already set up in Asia that
- 1:10:54they've got legitimate pharmaceutical companies that
- 1:10:57with billions in offshore accounts.
- 1:10:59I've got all the information. I've got a source that I can
- 1:11:01bring to them. I sent some information in.
- 1:11:04Crickets, you know, and that's, that's the tricky part, you
- 1:11:07know, you wonder what's going to make a difference.
- 1:11:09Listen, Baz, we're out of time for today.
- 1:11:11But first of all, man, we got to have you back on the show.
- 1:11:14I think there's so much to talk about with you and I don't think
- 1:11:16we did it. Fair.
- 1:11:17Take one second, George. I'm going to do one thing, Baz.
- 1:11:19Tell them where to find you on social media, where they can buy
- 1:11:22your books and where they can get involved.
- 1:11:23Maybe with ARK really quickly. Well, thank you.
- 1:11:25Ark is recovery of children.org is our website,
- 1:11:29recoveryofchildren.com. We'll give you to where our
- 1:11:32training classes are. We have some of those the six
- 1:11:35day fight child trafficking equipping course, bossbooks.com,
- 1:11:39you can buy the books and Basel Dash boss.com.
- 1:11:42We'll take you to my personal website.
- 1:11:45So thank you guys for having me. I appreciate.
- 1:11:46It man, love the interview. Stick around for a minute.
- 1:11:48We're going to go from there. OK, listen to you guys.
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- 1:12:20And you know George is going to be running and gunning solo.
- 1:12:23I've got surgery tomorrow. So simple surgery not a big deal
- 1:12:26that going to have the shoulder scoped old warrior injury.
- 1:12:29That's what happens at the end of the day.
- 1:12:31Thank you guys so much for joining us.
- 1:12:32Basil badge find him on social media.
- 1:12:35Follow him. I think this guy is going to be
- 1:12:37doing more great work. He's this is the kind of person
- 1:12:39we actually need in government. We need involved and we need him
- 1:12:42in the fight. George last words, my brother.
- 1:12:45Basil Badge, thank you so much for coming on.
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