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Just Jenn: The Boys of Summer · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Hi, you guys. It's just Jen and I'm here with
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: just Jesse and just Carl. I am sitting with my
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: friends Carl Radkey and Jesse Solomon. Do not be jealous.
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  Speaker 1: I know that you are. Thank you guys so much
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: for coming. I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: I love your outfit today.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: But I saw you and I was.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I have to say. The boys both gave me, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You should. You should do a TikTok fit. Check.
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  Speaker 1: This is why I have boys from Summerhouse. Okay, I know.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, let me just put this out
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  Speaker 1: there to the universe. I'm not against having a woman
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: from Summerhouse come on to my podcast. It's starting to
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  Speaker 1: look like things are a little slanted here, a little
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  Speaker 1: lopsided here. Yeah, they are a little bit. I have
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: to say, if I'm on a side, I definitely side
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  Speaker 1: with maybe the boys on Summerhouse. I probably shouldn't say that,
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  Speaker 1: but now it's out there.
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  Speaker 2: There's no sides.
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  Speaker 1: There are sides. There are always really family. Oh yes,
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  Speaker 1: one big, happy, dispunctional family.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's topical sides, you know, like a particular
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: moment where it's like, well, Kyle was maybe over over
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  Speaker 2: overstepped or.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but those are discussions, those are arguments.
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  Speaker 2: Those are not I'm wrong. There's sides.
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  Speaker 1: Well I mean listen, I'm on or was on, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe ever will be and who knows what's going to
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  Speaker 1: happen again with the Housewives of New Jersey, there were sides,
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  Speaker 1: and you better think it through before you picked the side.
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  Speaker 2: So what's unique about Summerhouse to some degree is we
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  Speaker 2: we get to like enjoy staying with each other. Imagine
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  Speaker 2: if you guys lived with each other for like three months. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: as you already.
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  Speaker 1: Issues like honey, there would be no one that would
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  Speaker 1: come out of that alive.
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  Speaker 2: I know. Well, that's what makes us what we do
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  Speaker 2: so unique is like we'll do a dinner and usually
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  Speaker 2: with your dinners or an event, you all get to
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  Speaker 2: go to your separate homes. Yes, we still have to
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  Speaker 2: go home with each other and like a lot of
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  Speaker 2: times we think we're off camera, but there's cameras obviously
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  Speaker 2: still in the home in the rooms, so you're maybe
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more loose. That's when all that's where
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  Speaker 2: they get a lot of the good stuff is on
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  Speaker 2: our show is when they it's the security.
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  Speaker 1: They never go down. They're like everywhere Carrie, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Always how do you do that?
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on. They're taking over, the
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  Speaker 1: boys are taking over. I'm not having it, okay, It's
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  Speaker 1: all about just Jen, Just Jen. So I just want
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  Speaker 1: to tell you guys, first of all, to our listeners.
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  Speaker 1: So I met Carl rad Key great story in an
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  Speaker 1: airport on my way to on our way to Bravo Khan.
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  Speaker 1: So we were we were in the lounge. We were
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  Speaker 1: like in the Delta lounge, right or whatever it was.
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  Speaker 2: In the morning yep. And on the shoulder. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: She was like, what are you doing over here? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: And I was hiding because going to Bravo Kahn last year,
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  Speaker 2: I was very nervous and just very over with good reason,
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  Speaker 2: having to face a lot of the stuff, yes, the breakup,
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  Speaker 2: but you and Derinda were very very kind your husband
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  Speaker 2: as well. Yes, I'll never forget that Delta lounge Roan,
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  Speaker 2: because I was so nervous going to Brabacon, but you
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  Speaker 2: both made me feel really good.
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  Speaker 1: Well. The thing is that I didn't really know the
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  Speaker 1: story at that point going into it, and all I
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  Speaker 1: saw was this very distraught looking young man. I was
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  Speaker 1: do you I felt sick for you, like I started,
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  Speaker 1: like when the story started coming out, and I don't
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know the woman who will remain nameless for
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  Speaker 1: our purposes today, but I don't know. I just was like,
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  Speaker 1: who is this poor man? And who what horrible woman
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  Speaker 1: has done this to him? And you just were so sad.
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  Speaker 2: And I was. It was It was a tough time.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, you know I was in love with her
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  Speaker 2: and wanted things to work out, but I think we
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  Speaker 2: all agree and it was better for us to go
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  Speaker 2: different directions. You'll see even on the new upcoming season
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  Speaker 2: how post you know, break up and after the reunion
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  Speaker 2: everything kind of unfolds. But yeah, I mean I think
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  Speaker 2: we both are separately really happy and healthy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very glad to hear that.
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  Speaker 2: So it all in a weird way, it kind of
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  Speaker 2: went the right way. I guess.
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  Speaker 1: I just think that sometimes people think that the one
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  Speaker 1: who does the breaking up is not affective. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you, if anyone's out there is wondering this poor boy,
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  Speaker 1: I think, like brob Conn, I probably text you like
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  Speaker 1: six times like are you okay?
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  Speaker 3: Very cool?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I was, you know, there was all the
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  Speaker 2: sand of all stuff and the scan of all stuff
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  Speaker 2: going on.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I remember hearing the booze for him when he went
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  Speaker 2: onto the panel, and when we got on our panel,
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: I don't recall hearing booze, but it was funny. After
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  Speaker 2: that day, I went to check social media and there
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  Speaker 2: was lots of videos, posts, and there was a fair
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  Speaker 2: amount of booing. But Carl, it is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: It's a year ago. I'm much happier and healthier now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad.
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  Speaker 2: I needed some time to kind of regroup and recover.
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  Speaker 2: And you'll see even on the new season, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Becoming laughing about over here.
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  Speaker 2: He was not okay. It'd be weird if he was okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, But don't you think that, like you didn't
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  Speaker 1: get a lot of grace from That's that's the nature
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  Speaker 1: I guess of these shows. But I mean, I again,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know the story. All I saw was this
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  Speaker 1: very sad looking young man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I got a lot of grace from people. That
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  Speaker 2: It's more grace than I thought. I mean, people came
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  Speaker 2: up to me at Bravo Con, A lot of fans
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  Speaker 2: and people I've met at other bravocns were very complimentary
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  Speaker 2: and kind. I had. Really to this day, I've never
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  Speaker 2: really had anybody come up to my face and say
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  Speaker 2: anything negative about it that situation at all.
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  Speaker 3: The online yes, but nothing right.
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  Speaker 1: So what are they called something warriors keyboard? The keyboard?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, West says the same thing. He's like, nobody's ever
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  Speaker 3: been me into my face. So if you just put
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  Speaker 3: your phone away, it's pretty much like the same life.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I have to say, like I am, it's
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  Speaker 1: not going to seem like that after this, but I
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  Speaker 1: am a girl's girl, like I really am. God, I've
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  Speaker 1: always had a ton of girlfriends, and yet I was
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  Speaker 1: I shouldn't say what the hell's who cares? But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I just I felt so bad for West. I thought,
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  Speaker 1: and I watched that last reunion and I was like, this,
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  Speaker 1: poor little puppy dog, Like.
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think I knew. I mean when I went
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: in that morning, we were getting ready in the green room,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think any I mean, I didn't expect some
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  Speaker 2: of that. It looked like, you know, West was kind
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: of on his heels a little bit too. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if he was fully prepared for what the reunion
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  Speaker 2: really is. Like, it's a big thing. There's a lot
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: of emotion, a lot of fe.
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  Speaker 3: I messaged him the day before and I was like, hey, Bud,
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  Speaker 3: you ready for Barrow, Like what are you going to say?
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  Speaker 3: And he's like, I don't know. I hadn't really thought
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  Speaker 3: about it, like maybe this, And I was like, you
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't say that, like how about this? And he said
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  Speaker 3: exactly what he had told me. Yeah, And it didn't
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: go well. I think you just sort of apologized more
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  Speaker 3: for any mishaps.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, people break up, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, but people are so invested in in when
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  Speaker 1: you're on one of these shows, they're so invested in you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking way more you all than me, but like
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  Speaker 1: they've become so invested in right there anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean with those two, I mean they were
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  Speaker 2: it was a real real thing, Like that's what's so.
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  Speaker 2: It was the summer when we were they were exploring
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: that relationship. It was fun to watch them. Yeah that,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we were all rooting for West and Sierra, right.
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: Obviously it takes two to tango and it didn't materialize,
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: you know more than that. But I think at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day, I mean, I thought the reunion
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  Speaker 2: it was good that, like Sierra got all that out
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  Speaker 2: and West was able to Like I felt like there
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  Speaker 2: was some growth from all of that.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I think that part of it is a
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  Speaker 1: me thing in that I watch sometimes reunions or I
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  Speaker 1: don't like I don't like to see people get bully
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  Speaker 1: I'm tired of that. But I don't like to see
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  Speaker 1: people get ganged up on, no matter what happened. Like,
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: for instance, I'm the only human talking who was I'm
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: not going to say I was team Raquel Raach whatever
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  Speaker 1: her name is. I think it's Rachel, Rachel, Raquel whatever
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  Speaker 1: that one. Yes, and scannedival sand of bal whatever they
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  Speaker 1: but like so I didn't watch the whole season, but
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  Speaker 1: when I saw that reunion, I was sick. I felt
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  Speaker 1: so badly for that girl and I realized she slept
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: with her best friends or she was together and she
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  Speaker 1: lied about it and she was a skanky cheat and
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  Speaker 1: whatever the hell it was. But it got to a
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: point where I was like, this is not okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, girls are going to be girls girls though,
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  Speaker 3: and I respect that, like they're best friends.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you just suck up.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's true, Like it's Paige was going to
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  Speaker 3: have Sierra's back ten times.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean that one necessarily. I'm really talking about
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  Speaker 1: more of the Rachel raquel that when that went down
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  Speaker 1: on that reunion, that was like they went full force.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was, I mean there was a lot that
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: was an intense I mean we I'm friends with fair
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: amount of them. You know. I was talking to Celia
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: earlier from my heart here and mentioning, you know, our
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: first episode of Summer Else in the history of the
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: show was with Katie, Kristen Stoss and Sheena, you know,
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  Speaker 2: so we have a close relationship with Vanner Pump crew.
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  Speaker 2: It was difficult to watch that because you know, you're
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: friends with everybody. I don't I'm upset with Sandoval obviously,
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  Speaker 2: but it was a weird situation to kind of watch
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  Speaker 2: because you know them so personally, but everybody's so angry,
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: so much vitriol. Yes, and I almost feel like the
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: audience had so much to say that the cast almost
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: like took that and gave it back.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's probably true. I think that actually is
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  Speaker 1: very true.
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  Speaker 2: That is, I like, we just honest theory I have.
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  Speaker 2: But again, yeah, when.
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  Speaker 1: You're very right, because then all of a sudden, You're
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  Speaker 1: so empowered because you take a step back, you see
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: how the world stands behind you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, even James Kenny was selling merchandise about the breakup,
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  Speaker 2: like that's that's a people were leaning in, you know,
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  Speaker 2: And I get it, like that kid is take advantage
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  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 1: I think that kids sell them much right now. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what We're not going
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: to go there. Yeah, you're okay, Jesse. So this is
• 8:59
  Speaker 1: how I met Jesse because Carl introduced me to Jesse
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: when I wrote my world renowned song Teams Divided. You
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  Speaker 1: may have missed it. It's on the Peacock version didn't
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  Speaker 1: make it to the actual version of the Real Housewives
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: of New Jersey. I know so, but unlike Jesse didn't
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: get right in the main cut. And I said to Carl,
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: is there any way can reach out to Jesse Solomon,
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  Speaker 1: because clearly the boy knows how to write songs. And
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  Speaker 1: it became this huge hit as well, And I said, Jesse,
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  Speaker 1: can I make any money from this? And he said no,
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  Speaker 1: he said, but you have yourself a good old time there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, ladies, it wasn't a money making endeavor. It was
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  Speaker 3: more just like a fun moment, and I mean, maybe
• 9:41
  Speaker 3: I'll have a music career. I've been writing music and
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: recording and eventually could perform and do live shows, hopefully
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  Speaker 3: this summer.
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  Speaker 1: That's really cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but this streaming is not going to be where
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  Speaker 3: you make your money unless you're getting like billions of stream.
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: Right, it's like you make like literally like I think
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  Speaker 1: it's point one set.
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: Everybody's got their hands in the cookie jar. Yes, but
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  Speaker 2: I think it was like that moment where Jesse, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the whole what would Jesse Solomon do became this joke
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  Speaker 2: that Kyle was kind of screwing around, and then it
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  Speaker 2: kind of stuck. And then Jesse obviously was telling us
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  Speaker 2: about his background. He studied vocal dress jazz in college.
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: Like he was, you know, when we're getting ready, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a Drake song comes on, and there was a song
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  Speaker 2: and from that summer I'll never forget. And it's like
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: all of these hoes and like Jesse would take his
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: like jazz tone and turn like an explicit rap song
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  Speaker 2: but in his jazz voice to play it.
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: Do they have it? They catch it?
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  Speaker 2: I mean just around the house and stuff, but you
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: could hear him sing and you're actually realizing Jesse's really good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and then as the summer, you know, was coming to
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  Speaker 2: an end, he put together just a fun thing to
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: sing for us and kind of like end the summer.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: It was awesome, but it was so in that moment
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: we're all like it was real. It was amazing. But
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: then yeah, he released the track. There was a couple
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: of remixes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and listen, I didn't do it perfectly. I like
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  Speaker 3: was so far behind releasing it, like I should have
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  Speaker 3: released it with the episode.
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  Speaker 2: But we got it out. We put it together now.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it wouldn't have mattered.
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: But you're sick of it now, and I'm like, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: it's just one.
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  Speaker 1: People just ask me for more every day. They just
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: want another. Not really, I'm sick of it. Actually, teams divided.
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: I know, it's so point you need another single now? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know. It was probably the most fun thing that
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: I did of everything in terms of just like it's
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  Speaker 1: so creative. It was for me. I mean, it was
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  Speaker 1: so silly. There was nothing I didn't I didn't write
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  Speaker 1: this ballad or this. You know, it wasn't but it
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  Speaker 1: was fun. It's really for me. It was really fun
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: just to put those just point music.
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  Speaker 2: Like with a lot of these shows, like you have
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: to contribute and bring you know, your life and your
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  Speaker 2: story to it. And what I think makes shows like
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  Speaker 2: yours or ours like really unique is you have really
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  Speaker 2: dynamic people bringing like I mean, he wrote a song
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  Speaker 2: like he's on Spotify, like he's a singer, and he's
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: been recorded like it was sat It's unexpected, but I
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  Speaker 2: think it makes what we do so much more unique.
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  Speaker 2: I agree that's summer forever, be concrete. It in our
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: minds and will always remember what would Jesse Solomon do?
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's a really special.
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  Speaker 1: Thing I do too. You're such a sweetheart of a
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: mass philosophical. He's philosophical, he's kind, he's generous. Seriously, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: trust me.
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: I don't have it all figured out, but I certainly try.
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  Speaker 1: And you're supportive of each other, and I love that.
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  Speaker 3: I love Jesse.
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  Speaker 2: He's been a really good addition to the group, but
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  Speaker 2: also for me as a friend.
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  Speaker 1: I've really really do you guys hang out like separately
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: and yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We talk. I mean we're both like we both have
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: a lot going on, but I mean, he's we have
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: I think some similarities and some differences. But what's funny
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: is I almost see myself and him.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: At that's stop taking it over here, that is my question.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Carl's just like happy to have somebody else besides.
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  Speaker 1: I was there remember any other guys on Summerhouse?
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: Well there was a funny season where I walked into
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: the house and one of the guys Chris. At that
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: summer I basically was like, all right, where are the guys?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: I like this?
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  Speaker 2: But Kyle and I, you know, we've we were best buddies.
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: We have a lot of fun together. But it's nice
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: when you have another layer of energy. Of course, Jesse
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  Speaker 2: brings something different than I did, you know, and that's
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  Speaker 2: something you know we've.
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  Speaker 1: What does he bring this different?
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  Speaker 3: Carl's like I was an alcoholic age and now Jesse
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  Speaker 3: is a cocaine at it.
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  Speaker 1: I know I could be wrong. Are you a big partier?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I will say Jesse's able to his behavior
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: like he can he can handle himself. He doesn't have
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: like those crazy outbursts like they would have.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: And his no, I didn't mean you Actually.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot more healthy than mine.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just got it.
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  Speaker 1: Got it. But like, do you feel like you've taken
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: the role because you always need a partier, right, you
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: can't like it's hard to do it with if everybody
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: is going to be like sober and thoughtful and you
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: know that's actually well, I mean it is to us.
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's hard to take nights off in the Summerhouse.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: But I definitely drink a lot just more over the
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: Summer West is like the top partier in the group
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I mean you you were hitting equinox,
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: you know. I think, to be fair, it's you are
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: also like when you have a big night, you're still
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: getting up and trying to work out or yeah, I
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: try to be healthy. He's he's a pretty healthy guy,
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: and I think it's inspiring to have a guy like
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: that around to like keep things.
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: I wasn't drinking martinis before.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: By confessionals, Do you feel like it helps that's the
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: thing for.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: First five seasons of Summerhouse, right, do you think.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: It helped you, especially in your first season?
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Chair Carl has incredible stories. Really, I was I parted
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: pretty hard early on whether the camera was rolling or not.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't think about it. It just I would show up
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: to interviews sometimes.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: And do you think it helped? Do you think that
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: it Like.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say it helped, but it's always.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: To help you and your life and your psyche. But
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: do you think that it did?
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: You know you might have? Yeah, I think it created.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: I almost had like a version of myself that was,
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: like my mom called it, it's like watching you on steroids,
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: like it's you, but it's not you. You're like this.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: That must have been hard for her to watch.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: She jokes that she used to throw stuff at the TV.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: It's easy in this world to end up drinking every
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: night because we go to events and stuff and you
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: just kind of have to pick and choose. So like
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: sitting down in a confessional chair at two o'clock, I
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: try not to have a drink.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I was. I would go back and forth
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: with it, like is it a good idea for me
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: to take an edible before the reunion? Is it a
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: good idea?
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: No?
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Not a good idea? Is it a good idea? Or
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: even like before you know, filming confessionals, like should I
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: or anything? I was really nervous about the finale? Should
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: I take half his his annex, well half it, like
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: will that work to make it? And I always got
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: back to not because when you fuck it up and
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: you're going to then like, if you fuck it up
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: and you're not there's nothing in your system, then it's
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: just it's fine, you did the best you could.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you, right.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: But if you fuck it up and it's because you
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: did an edible and you made it, ask of yourself
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: not so like you never forgive yourself so I didn't.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's good.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Well you're being you.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: I mean you're showing that fear and that maybe that
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: stress you're having about whatever you were going to talk about. Yeah,
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: but the more like sober you are, the more real
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: or what you're sharing will be.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: It's very true.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: You'll if you're taking his ANXT, you're like, god, it's fine, right, right,
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: it's not really who you are.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: And there's a very fine line when filming. If you
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: have one drink maybe loosens you up a little bit.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Two drinks, okay, don't have another one because like if
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: I have three or four drinks and try to film
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: a scene.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: I have you done that?
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we have parties all the time, and
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden somebody pulls you over to chat
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: and you're just like, you can't remember what you were
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: trying to say, and you're just not good at your job.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Right now, we've had the drinking discussion. Now we're going
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: to talk girls. It's good because I know that's what
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: everybody listening really wants to know about. And so Carl,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: you are still.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm single. I mean I've been, I've being on
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: some dates. You're putting myself back out there. But you'll
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: see on the new season, which, yeah, it took me
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: some time to get kind of back to my own,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: getting my confidence.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I saw the celibacy comment or whatever.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I just full transparency. I mean I
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: have broke the streak already since Dog, but no, I
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: it took me some time just.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: To imagine that girl, you know, and that you broke
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: the streak with.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I admitted that until it happened.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: And where is she now?
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: She's in New York, pissed. No, we've texted and just
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: it never really materialized much after the summer. But okay, again,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: I being a very public person and been on this
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: show for quite some time now, it presents some a
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: layer of challenge sometimes with meeting and dating of course,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: so I've I've had some things where you know, people
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: maybe have other ulterior motives or someone that I'm interested
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: in just doesn't want anything to do with this, right,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: you know, So it can be either way, but which
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: is understandable.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: If I wasn't going to be on the show, I
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: would not want to be on the show. And what
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I mean by that is like, if I was a
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: main character on the show, that's great. Your life is
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: in the public eye and whatever, you get the benefits.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: But if you're just like a partner of someone and
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: like you just have your life on display for no
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: good reason and you're working a corporate job, like it
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: can bring a lot of well drama.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I will tell you that my husband is a corporate
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: attorney and he is an introvert. He is like this
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: this shot. I mean, you would think not in business.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: He's not shy and not really when you know him,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: but he's like put, we're polar opposites, and there's no
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: one that loves being on this show and he loves
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: as Jeff Wessler. It is so stupid he is, and
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: it's it's actually like.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Now, has that created any kind of polarization with like
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: his legal career.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Or no, as a matter of fact, he has new clients. No,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know that's got new clients. But he gets
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: like he goes places, he goes to whatever holiday parties
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: now and it's like a whole thing and it's whoa
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: excuse me? Are you just do whatever? So he he
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: just he thinks it's like it's so awesome.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: It is not now was he? Was he that recept
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: like when you got the the concept.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: If he pushed my ass into it, he was like,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: you have to do this, You'll never that's he did
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: it for himself. He has a great supportive husband all
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: for him. But he's like, we know, I don't think
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: he's we've hit any speed bumps. But I've said to him, like, dude,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: you're not doing going to the boys party whatever it is,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: So you're not going to whatever. Not that I can
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: tell him what to do, but I'm like, you have
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: to try to maintain you're not an entrepreneur like these guys,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: like you have to maintain some dignity here. And if
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: it were up to him, he'd be in every scene.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well, I will say that the New Jersey
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Men it's it's entertaining to see just the dynamic of
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: some of the the energy and the boy they have
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: a funny group.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: They have a funny group, and as a.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Group of guys on our side, it's fun to like
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: see how the older gentlemen are behaving. I mean they
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: still rip their shirts off, they're doing push ups, they're
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: yelling at each other, they're grilling, they're nuts. They're doing
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: stuff that we kind of do.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: But and Jeff loves that because Jeff is like he's
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: so buttoned up a day to day, so like all
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's like thinks he's in like some frat.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: He's amazing.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I see.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I was like, I mean later stages.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: To kind of be a jackass.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: So the only time he got in trouble was recently
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: because from uh like one of the head partners because
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I went into his office too and I was doing
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: some content whatever I hate that word, but I was
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: doing filming things on a camera on an iPhone and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: my pr gu was like, whatever, we're going from a
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: room and I went into the copy room and I
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: pulled up They still called it you guys play, even
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: though what a xerox machine is okay. Well I pretended
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I was, like I put my thing on, I put
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: my boobs on or whatever, and now I'm like job
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: And I thought it was. It was all so funny
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: until the morning when like the managing partner called him,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: like the managing partner, Jeff listen, we have some partners
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: here that are not thrilled with the behavior of your wife.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Basically banned from he works at thirty Rock. I'm like,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: not allowed up there.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: On the zero.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Actually do it? It was, it was. It was a
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: bit you don't want to believe me. You're okay without
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: a copy of that? All right? So wait, so girls,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: so and I know if you guys probably get these
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: this constantly. Right, everyone wants to know what kind of
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: girl you like? What are you looking for? Right? No?
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, yeah, I think, well, how are.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: You meeting girls right now?
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I mean hinch that. I don't do apps personally. I've
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: never done it again. I'm thirty nine, So the app
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: thing was a little later. In my kind of dating world.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: The dating app, I believe is Instagram. Yeah, Ostagram, everybody's
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: on it. Do you do that?
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Rya one?
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: I'm on Riya, but I haven't been meeting up with
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: a lot of people to go on dates.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: What's the difference, Raya is just cooler, You're cooler, pretty accepted.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: I believe it. Yeah, it's like these of dating apps,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: but like if you want to get onto it, you
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: can figure it out.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I heard from one of my colleagues with that soft bar.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: She's on Riya and she said that no one responds.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: It's like this thing where it's cool to be seen
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: on it.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: You're nodding about over there. Is that true?
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe, like it's fun like when you actually are looking
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: to make a move to ask someone out the like
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: return or like the actually really percentage that it actually lands.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: She said.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I like, no one's really ever responded to any like
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: thing I've sent that. I don't know white people respond
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: to me, but I throw listen.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I like to meet people out there.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Is this guy, he's a professors, Scott Galloway. I don't know.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard of him.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Have you heard of him? So he's this professor. He
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: talks about the plight really of like young men in
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: our country and what's happening. He talks about a lot
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: of things, but you know, having these young men that
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: have had their head in their phone, swiping, swiping, swiping,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and are getting rejective, rejective, rejected, and you know, as
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: a result, I feel like shit about themselves because I
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: don't know what for the self or self esteem. And
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: now you're like not going out and you're not having
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the experience of like going to a bar. And he
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: talks about the men, but I'm sure it goes both ways.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: But like you know what the women are looking for.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Let's say it's tall. That's all I wanted when I
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: was fixed up, when I was at your age, I
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: was like, he just has to be tall. He doesn't
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: have to be gorgeous. I don't. He doesn't have to
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: be rich, he does have to be ambitious, because my
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: grandmother Nana used to say, he doesn't have to be rich,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: he has to be ambitious. But tall is the number one.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: My husband's five to five. So but I'm saying, like
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you can put it out all out there. I broke
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent, broke my rule.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: But he's the ambitious he yes, so he makes up
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: for the ambition with yes.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: He just wore me down in the end, But like
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: that's also part of it, Like no, because that is
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: a real, but because when you're just behind your phone
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: but you're both saying you love. But it must be
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: fun for you guys to go out because you're you.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: So you get to go out and like, you know,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: you walk into a bar and you're both you know,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: good looking and TV stars.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: So I spend half the year in Miami, and Miami
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: nobody knows who I am.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: For the part I can't confirm. We we visited Jesse
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Kyle West, and I went down for Kyle had a
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: DJ gig, but we were out and about with Jesse.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: It was funny, like we were just regular Miami guys
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that night, you know, we had his group of friends
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: and we met up and it was fun. But it
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: wasn't like it is in New York City or like an.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Hour we walked into a bar in New York and
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: it's like can we get a picture? Which is it's fun,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: it's fun, but it's not Miami. It wasn't like that.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: It was you know, almost everybody was just kind of
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: in their own group of friends and doing their own thing.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe they noticed us from Afar, but.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: They're like, who are those tall guys? You know, two
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: six for five guys Jabroni's.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: They're from the Jewish Basketball League's Jabroni is like a squid,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: like a wet noodle.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Grabroni is something that you're like kind of floppy, Like
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: you're so tall that you're just like weird looking.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: No, you're like a goofball, You're like a you're corny,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: you're kind of a weirdo.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Gibroni is a loser. Jayne the Rock Johnson used
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: to call people jibbroni's with his character of The Rock. Yeah,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: on his wrestling career, he'd call you like you little Jibbroni, Wow,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: and it's like, you're kind of a loser.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I'm learning things, learning new things all the time. I
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: love hanging out with the young people.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: We'll keep you on teach some things.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Tell me, so okay, I'm gonna try to stay on topic. Carl,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: tell me the kind of girl you're looking for. And
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: obviously it doesn't matter because in the end you're going
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: to say all of these things, and some they're just
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: going to show up and you're gonna die a little
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: bit inside and then that will be that. But what
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: do you think you're looking for?
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: You know, I appreciate that's not a requirement though, I
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: think just a healthy relationship with alcohol or other substances.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: But I mean, honestly, like I've I'd like to think
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: that I could date someone that has a healthy relationship
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: with alcohol. I still love being social.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: She likes benefits and her mushroom goffees.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Functional benefits in her drinks.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: That's a soft bar thing.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: He's trying to mushrooms at the softbar.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Healthy mushrooms not psychedelic.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I don't give a ship what they are as long
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: as they make.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: You, They make you happy, make you feel good. We
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: certain no, not psychic at all. It's adaptogen and new
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: tropic mushroom. People take them every morning as like a
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: morning you take vitamins in the morning.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Do you hear good things about mushrooms telling you?
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Quote me right now, every major hospitality, coffee shop, bar
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: in the next five years is going to have a
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: mushroom drink on the menu.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Heard it here first, I'm writing it down around it.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: It's changing like people have it in drinks canned beverages. Now,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: when when you walk into a bar or a coffee shop,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: you'll be able to add that into your beverage a
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: functional ingredient.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: I love that. I would love to find something I
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: could do that's not alcohol that makes me feel like
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: socially like am out. Yeah, but I'll take a small
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: gummy or smoke like a pen or something if I'm out.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: But it doesn't do the same thing alcohol though. Yeah, yes,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: maybe it's functional mushrooms.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Right, Maybe you.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Were asking what I'm looking for in a woman and
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: we got into mushrooms. It's talk about when I.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Can always be sidetracked if you're going to talk about
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: anything of a loucinogen, what I'm looking for.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Or what I'm like.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Intelligence is important to me. I like someone that can
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: hold a good conversation. I like some depth, like emotional
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: intelligence where I've been through a fair amount of things.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I don't want to trauma dump on someone the first
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: two minutes, but but I will. But yeah, well, there
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: are inherently some things that have been very public about
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: my life, you know, certain things that people know me
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: for to some degree. You know, I've been through some
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: stuff and I I'm not expecting someone to like baby
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: me or anything, but someone who can have some grace
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: and understanding around someone, Honey.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not Listen, you're young to me, but like at
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: thirty eight, there's no one that hasn't had that doesn't.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Have stuff totally.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: So that's the good news. You're not going to meet
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: a woman who has not been by thirty eight.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: But then outside of that, you know, I love it.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I'm goofy. I'm a kind of a silly guy. I
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: like to make jokes, and I want someone that can
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: bring that out of me. So someone who's witty or funny, right,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: and someone who ambition. I like someone who's active and
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: likes to work out. Uh. And then obviously physically, I
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: mean I'm six to five, there is like a height
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: cutoff for me because if I'm getting up to talk
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: to you and I got to go, how are you harro?
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I like tiny?
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: You like tiny?
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he likes doing that.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Okay wait wait wait wait okay, so but yet so
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: physically as you can't just stop there. So hopefully tall
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: ish so not doesn't have to be someone could be
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: five to five.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I dated like five eleven in college. I dated some
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Syracuse women's volleyball players. But as I've gotten older, I
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: mean five seven, five eight around that I think fits
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: really well in tiny for me is like five six.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: By the way, really that's tiny. That's not tiny. Yeah,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: that's me actually so and no one's ever called me
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: tiny so physically. Also, just elaborate for a moment.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: I'd like to I've had this thought in my head
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: that a brunette would look really good.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: With me with you, because it's about how somebody would.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Look with you, right, I mean, I think you're I've
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: always been attracted to brunettes. However, I have dated blondes.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: I'm attracted them all colors, shapes and sizes, yes, but
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: in this particular moment I'm looking for, I think brunette. Okay,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I really like light eyes.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Really notice that common theme doesn't matter, blonde or burnett.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: What color are your eyes? Like a brown hazel?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: My daughter has uh, blue eyes, but we already discussed
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: that that's not going to happen for you, my friend.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, And I'm going to add one last thing that
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for. I do appreciate someone that doesn't necessarily
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: they can put on makeup and get dulled up, but
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: for their core, like without it, they're very pretty and
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: just naturally, you know, look good. Yes, they could write
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I think you know, I've I just would like that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I guess you want to wake up in the morning
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and get like fucking scared, right right.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I think is that scared? I think just some
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: people could look like I think women are very pretty
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: without makeup on or post workout or I know it's
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: every guy says that, right, you know, like just with
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: your sweatpants all you're so hot.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: However, I think women don't realize, like when you get
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: all dulled like you know many jacket blazers dressing. Yeah,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: I have to literally get a dry clean twice because
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: all the makeup that's all over my ship.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Like women, I know you weren't I know you weren't.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: All right, jess uh my type?
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, my type. I haven't really figured it out
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: a lot of the things Carl said. I need somebody intelligent,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: somebody sweet and cute and just like a good mother
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: to my future children, somebody that wants kids and active
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: works out.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: So here's my question. Do you think about the women
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: that you have had relationships with, do they fit that
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: mold what you just described.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for the.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Most part, but there's some things missing, I would say, Okay,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: And it also wasn't the right time.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Okay I was too young, Yeah, I would say I
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: would flip it. I wasn't ready for you know, my
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: previous relationships. They certainly may have had those qualities, but
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I wasn't the version that they were looking for.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: In return.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I always think that, like, no matter what the timing is,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: no matter what your requirements are, like when something happens,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: when like the pheromones start popping and everything else goes away,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: all the all the different rules. But let me ask
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: you this, because I asked Wes about West about this,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: So are you guys attracted to Himen? Usually? So he
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: was saying he likes the chase the key would prefer
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: even though we didn't like it, maybe in the moment,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: but he does better with women that do put up
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: a bit, Yes, of a challenge, don't get they We
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: shouldn't put it like that. But yes, yes, yes, you.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Have to work to work.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: If I say that, it does it matter how quickly
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: you hook up with someone, whether that's proven true or not.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Is another Well you tell me from your own experience.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, everybody likes a little bit of a chase,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: But that's not to say that if I hooked up
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: with somebody like two dates in, I couldn't actually really
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: like them and have a relationship with them.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Well two dates in is holding out these days? I
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: feel like so in a little bit now, Okay.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say having sex on a first date
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: is rare.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Really you went to college.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Well, you don't go on like super formal dates in college, right,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I think you have to go out. Yeah, it's like
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: a one night stand. You just meet someone and the
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: pheromones are rushing. There isn't a date at all. It's
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: just back to your place, maybe a minor hangout and
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the sleeping because it.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Felt it feels like to me, like my both my
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: kids now graduated from college. But I don't know when
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I would go there, even when I would like be
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: around their friends, Like everybody was just slipping in and
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: out of beds and it was like a different time.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Well, hook up culture is prevent culture. Yeah, it's thing,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: but it shifted.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I mean not to date myself too much, but I
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: mean Facebook was started my freshman year I was at
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Syracuse University. I had a friend who went to Harvard
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: who had told me about it, but it didn't His name.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Isn't he the one the event?
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: It was Tyler Winklevoss.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Oh what right? One of those twins, the.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Twins whose idea originally was right. But they're doing really well.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: They have cryptocurrency.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: How do you know this?
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Why do you know that?
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: So much stuff?
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Gemini, Billboard and Times. I pay attention to everything. Okay,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Harvard Facebook. So sophomore year at Syracuse Facebook landed because
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: you had to have a university email to get an account,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: and Facebook only started in the northeast Ivy League schools
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: and like Cornell, Syracuse and like Battle, when Facebook came
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: on campus, it changed everything for hook up culture. You
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: could poke people, you could see what looked like poke
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: they you could see the sorority cruise right. You could
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: identify people that you wouldn't otherwise meet unless you actually
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: went up to them in real life and said, who
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: are you? Right, you now have all this information, So
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I believe it all changed at that point.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Don't you think that that's like what we were talking
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: about a little bit before. But like, that's part of
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the issue is meeting like this whole swipe culture, right,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and not being able to actually talk to someone and
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: look them in the eye.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: And you know, well, I think it goes for like
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: professional careers. Yeah, I mean I get emails sent to me,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: and the communication quality it's pretty poor. I mean obviously
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: with texting and shorter communications, but like if you can
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: speak well and write well and communicate like professionally and personally,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: you're going to have a pretty good life. These days, we're.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Talking about people being alone by themselves and not being
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: able to hook up with people, and now we're saying
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: there's hookup culture.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: There's just like different.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Types of different right. No, I'm not I'm not loyal
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: saying anything. We're just shooting the ship. But what I'm
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: thinking is that in college there I think it's a
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: huge hookup culture after college when you're young and you're single.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: But I think that there are a lot of men
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: now and that are having a hard time because they're
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: not many people hook up cultures, just the way in
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: which people meet each other.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: In the app, I was just saying, I think a
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: lot of men at least. What I am just being
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: completely honest, Like there's a lot of porn. Instagram to
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: some degree is soft porn. So you have all this
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: oh you're watching I mean, look at our the girls
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: of Summerhouse. How far our girls look amazing like it?
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Do you see Instagram pictures that aren't porn?
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: The girls, all the girls, all the girls get such
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: good rate. What I'm saying is Instagram in a weird
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: way is not unlike soft porn to some degree. Yes, no,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: but everybody wants it in real life. Agreed. But I
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: think for men that become you get so accustomed to
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: like being on this app, and like you lose the
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: ability to generate a genuine in real life connection, not
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: only because you already have all this information, but like
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: just actually asking someone a question, learning, where are you from?
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Where'd you go to school?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I guess what can ignite this?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: You already have it all here? Yes, and if you
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: like so, I think men, unfortunately, if you don't get
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: off social you're going to struggle in dating.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, you need to be on there so you're
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: not a serial killer. But if that's how you're only
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: going to like find or search for people, I think
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a challenge.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Well you Also, this guy also says that like you
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: need to when you're young, go out there, like make
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: bad decisions, screw it up. Like meet girls.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ask someone out and fall on your face and.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Fall on your face and get rejected and ask someone else,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: ask someone out again. Like, I think that's a big
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: part of it, and.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: It's it's easy to be social in New York especially.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: You can literally just go outside of your house if
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: you don't like to drink, join a kickball league. You know,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: there's plenty to do for everyone.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Kickball, kickball, leak the summer house. Yeah, West put together summerhouse.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Guys are dorks? Do you say kickball league?
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Hey?
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Girls like you Wes no dog wow. No, It's just
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: like an easy game everybody can play well, I think,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: with Jesse also adding to in New York and this
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: is again something I see happening is how people are
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: gathering as groups of friends. The days of going to
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: the nightclub till four in the morning are shifting. Yes,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: people still do that, but friends and people that are
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: trying to connect with each other are joining run clubs,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: They're joining community groups, yoga classes, berries, boot camps, kickball
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: leagues because it's something that's not just at a bar.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Well, what happens at these kickball games is what do
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: you do after the game? Go to the door, hang out.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: So it's social, it's it's how people meet each other.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: That's my issue with New York is I feel like
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: all there is to do is eat and drink, and
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: obviously there's museums and other stuff, but I think just
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: like the amount of space you have here just kind
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: of makes me feel closet.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I mean in terms of what, like you can't go
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: on a hike, yeah, because I'm min's like, what else
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: is there to do but eat and drink and like kind.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Of go like to Upstate New York and go for
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: a hike, but I'm just not going to right. I
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: think the city does like not to make it about
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: like I think when the city can have another side
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: to it. And I didn't know that until actually like
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: stopped drinking. The museums, the art, the concerts.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: You do that stuff.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Now I still do all of that, but it's actually
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: way more enjoyable because you don't realize how much is
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: in front of us. Where I was the previous ten
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: years in New York soho clubs, West Village bars, Brooklyn
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: after hours, I didn't I never been to Central Park
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: sober Wow until.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: What were you doing in the park, drug drinking in
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Sheep's meadow, having a great time like most people do.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: But I never had an experience with New York, like
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: just realizing, Oh, like I went to a Broadway show
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: two weeks ago with my parents. I'm like, oh, like,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: this is like a what did you say? Book of Mormon?
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: I heard that, but that I enjoyed it, But I
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: will say Wicked is still better in my opening, I
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: enjoy Wicked more. I love South Park, and when I
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: watched Book of Mormon, it felt to me like a
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: bizarre South Park live action episode. Interesting because the tone
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: of the jokes and the singing. It feels like bigger, longer,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: and uncut, which is one of their best South Park
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: movies early on.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: It's so funny because when I was your age is,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: but I lived in New York for like eleven years.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: And what neighborhood you live in?
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: All over the place. I was taking garbage bags of
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: clothes and moving from one shithole to the next, Like
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: was your favorite years? Yeah? My favorite was my last
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: one on forty sixth and second.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: And it was it's like Turtle Bay.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: It is right by like Spark Steakhouse, and uh, Smith
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: and Lenski's right there. So anyway, I had this little
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: hovel facing a brick wall. But it was the first one.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Really is that a Jewish word? No, a Yiddish word.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: No, it means like a little hole, a little like shitty,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: little holly small. I mean, I don't know if somebody
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: look it up.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: I was today years old when I learned to hovel. Wow,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: see that?
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: What could happen to you?
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: If you come on, just Jen, just gen you get
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: the last.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: A small, squalid, unpleasant or simply constructed dwelling. That was
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: my favorite place to live in this novel because it
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: was also mine. I didn't have any room. It's at
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: this point. It was the last place I lived in
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: New York, and it was just I loved that it
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: was small. And Jeff Wessel used to be like, I
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: would keep my underwear and drawers like under the bed,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: like because there was just no room space for everything.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: But yes, and he was so pleased with himself when
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: we got together and I moved into his place in Gottenburg,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: New Jersey. He thought he had saved me. I'm like, dude,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I love that place like I would go back there today.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: It faced a brick wall. I didn't care. But like
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: back in the day, it's a shame when you're young
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: in New York sometimes and it's wasted on the young
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: because that's what I did. I just went out and
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I went to Sheep's Meadow and got fucked up, and
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: then I would would think about what club I was
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: going to, where I was going to go that night.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I was never I was always just like I had
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: ten million different jobs, a different you guys have summer house.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: It's like a totally different thing. But I really wasn't
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: passionate about anything except boys and like friends and whatever.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: And I missed it. I missed New York, you know
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: what I mean. We were talking about moving back here
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: potentially or getting like that's going. I can't even say that.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: One had a tear.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I know what, I know what the word is.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: I have a lot of money for another home, yes.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: But I always feel like it sounds like it's going
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: to be like a love nest. And I'm not implying
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: that I'm interested in that term.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I don't know who TikTok that works. In
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: the last two years, but it came back. It's like,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: what the it's the only way people talk about their
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: second home.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Now, Yes, I feel so pretentious.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: There's a house on pas over a million dollars. Really, yes,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that might.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Not be a facted up my whole idea now, Jeff Spcer, Wow, thanks, Yeah, I.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Could maybe should go see if your hovel is still
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: standing on forty second in six or forty six and second.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: But I loved it. It had a doorman, I felt safe.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: It was really cool. I absolutely loved that place. Both
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: my kids now have places, and I called. I just
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: actually stayed overnight right down the block here at a
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: place called the Michael Angelo Hotels. Tonight did very well
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: by me, for I want to say, it was like
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: three hundred bucks, which is unheard of, unheard of especially
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: during the holiday season. Very nice hotel.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: So you stayed over night last night?
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I did because I had an event last night. I
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: had an event, an Israel event, and that I think
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I was telling you guys. Michael Rappport yes, yeah, okay, yeah,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: invited me to this thing was actually it was quite amazing.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, well, I mean you should know him first.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: He was sing it and he didn't really invite me.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I actually sent him a text and asked if he
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: could get me in. So that's different, right, but uh,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: it's called One Israel the One Israel Fund. Anyway, So
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I said to Rachel, you know what I'm coming in.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to spend the night. I'm fucking paying
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: for it. Okay. She's like, what do you mean. She's like, Mom,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I don't, like, I don't have room for that. I'm like,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I know you have room because I bought you the
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Queen size bed, so I know that there's room and
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I'm paying for half your rent. And she's like, but
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Mom, that's fine, But like I'm going
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: to be facetiming and like I don't sleep well and
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna get high before I go to bed,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: and I just want times. I'm thinking, what is happening
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: right now? I nobody helped me pay my rent. There
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: was no one who was like picking out Linnet I took,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, from each department. I could take a
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: big hefty bag and I put it in the cab
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: and I go to the next place that I could afford.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: It was none of this.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I would have paid top dollar for. See you at
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: the camera okay, getting out of your little hovel.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, your bag.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: It was exactly what it was.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. And then my son is just he
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: looks at me like I'm saying something so inappropriate, like
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: what do you mean you're going to stay here? Like
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: that is so weird. And he's in law school, so
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: we're paying a lot of his for a lot of his.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: It's all wrong, and I got nowhere to go. I
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: want to come back.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: I want to come back as a fest kid.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, thank you. That's what I tell them all
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: I could afford the three hundred dollars hotel tonight.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I know we're very rich, that's true.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Well, if I could say when I had a small
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: soho apart, when I first knew here, I had my
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: mom stay with me. My dad would stay with me,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: but I wouldn't my mentality. My parents didn't have money
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: like that, so they either were visiting me and staying
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: with me, or they weren't visiting at all. Right, right,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: so I guess it. You know, I would feel terrible
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: if I like, mom, you can't stay at mean, like,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: of course.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Your mother obviously did something right, and I have done
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of things wrong, something went very It.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Took some time for this. I had to humble myself
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: and actually like, look, you have a.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Nice thing with your parents. I like seeing them on
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: the show with you. Thank you really nice and so
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: do you from.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: What I remember Jesse's parents, it's awesome show the mom's Yeah,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: support us.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: I love that I live in somewhat of a hovel
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: right now, you do. I'm not embarrassed to say.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I think that's a there's a song in there, Jesse Solomon?
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: What is wait? What's the first song? What would Jesse saw?
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Where does Jesse Solomon live?
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: That's an apartment in Williamsburg, the roommate and it's big
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: and spacious.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: But it's like old Okay, but just by definition, you
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: don't live in a hobble. You just said big and spacious.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not ship. It's like a Brooklyn.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: It looks like a Brooklyn y kind of a factory.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Actually makes it look sketchy. Yeah. What do you guys do?
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Well? I know what you do.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Carl and I we're going to talk about I want
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: to talk about softbar. But Jesse, so you are pursuing acting,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: singing the arts, right?
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: I would love to release an album this year's cool.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: I'm going to Yes, I've been recording music.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I have this.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been so fun and I think it sounds
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: great and everybody have shown it to really likes it.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: So I hope people like it as much as I do.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: And uh, what is it?
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: What kind of music?
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like electronic pop funk, like there's I'm
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: trying it all, I'm seeing what I like.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I love that you were studying this and you didn't
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: just come up with it on summer House like this
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: was actually Yeah, you didn't think wow like a lot
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: of us do. Now I could be a pop star
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: like I did when I picked up the guitar.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So hopefully it's work out that way.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I know I understand music. I work for
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Amazon Live. I've got this consistent Amazon Live gig, which
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: has been great because it's kind of like honing in
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: my hosting chops.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: I just like doing it.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: What do you sell?
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Yesterday? I did one with my mom for like a
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: holiday gift exchange. I did a spa day.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: It was like all cosmetics face stuff felt like page
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: to soorbo. Yeah, just anything that boys or girlfriends will
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: buy for their boyfriends.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I love that. Oh I just had a question run
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: through my head that I'm not going to say, and
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: you should thank me for it.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, thanks, welcome and yeah, and then we do brand
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: deals obviously, which you're super great.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Is this for I don't know if it's still like
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: this for you cross for me it is. I just
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: did Jersey for two years and who knows if I'm
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: ever going to again. But it was such an adventure,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: like it was like what is happening? And especially when
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I was fifty three when they cast me on it,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: and I was like, how is this to this day?
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Up like that, like what is happening? People come up
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: to me and they're like, oh my god, I take
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: a picture. I'm like, fuck, yeah, you want to take
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: a picture with me? Yeah, you could absolutely do that, right,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: And like, I don't know, after all this time, I'm
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: sure for because I've had I've seen some of my
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: cast they get so bombarded, right, and I get it.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: And so I see one particular member of my cast
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: who will go nameless or me nameless, hide once in
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: an airport behind a plant because she didn't want to deal.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: With like all of the pants I understand the airport
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: and she.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Really got buried like she was she was wigging out
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: a little. But I guess what I'm asking is, are
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: you still well, Jesse? Are you still glowing from this? Like?
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Holy shit? Well, how did this happen to me?
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: I feel bad when people come up to me and
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: say like, I'm so sorry, I don't want to bother you.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no, this is awesome that people want to
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: say hi to me, and like, you know, you go
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: out to a bar. The point of going out is
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: to be social. So I would rather have people who
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: like me and want to talk to me come up
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: to me and say hi, and you meet people, right,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: So no, I still like it obviously when you're like
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: in an airport or you're destryed.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: But I mean, the whole idea of this, theat that
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: you're famous now, is that just blow your Does it
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: blow your mind?
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Still?
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: I don't consider myself famous.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I say that to I'm not you are, I'm not.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: But whatever, there's a difference.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's wild.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: The craziest thing for me is just the cancer survivors
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: and people going through health issues. And Carl has the
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: same thing with the sober community. But just the fact
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: that I can impact somebody's life just by sharing my
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: story and being open and the messages and what people
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: say to me when they meet me is like like
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: you help me get through this, and it's like such
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: a heartwarming thing.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what about you. It's not that deep for you.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: You just like the attention, right, No, it is.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Actually I know it's for some time. I mean, I
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: will say, like to your point, I mean, I'm it's
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: amazing when people come up to you. I actually joke
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: with them. I go the moment this stops happening is
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: when I'm like, fuck right. I've always appreciated when people
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: come up because what Jesse said, like, yeah, a fair
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: amount of people have approached me and expressed you've helped
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: me get through something really difficult, or you inspired me
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: to make a change, or a sibling who was struggling.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: I've had some I've had people stop me on the
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: street and give me hugs, and it still that blows
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: me away. And I still do shock that I've made
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: any impact on anyone. You know, I've shown you what
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: not to do.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but guess what, But should it be said that.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: What keeps me energized and excited about what we get
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: to do here. Yes, you open your lives up. There's
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: a lot of things that are uncomfortable sometimes with this experience.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: But if you can change one person's day or life, like,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: that's what it's all about. Wow, And I I really
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: care deeply about that now. I wish I could be
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: more helpful. Honestly.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: You guys are way better people than I am. I
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: just like being famous get early on in this.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Program, Like I've been on Summer House for nine years now. Yeah,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: I know the first it wasn't always like this. The
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: first season, people recognize that's a little I'm tall, and
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Kyle and I would were still best buddies.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: We go out all the time.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't until like the third season when it
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: kind of like brand deals were coming. We didn't brand
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: duals the first two seasons, right, we paid, We buy
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: our own alcohol in Summerhouse.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I heard that it's changing a little bit though, that
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: kind of thing, like.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: It's evolved a lot, But the first three years were
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: just it was like a backyard football team just liking
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: to play football with each other. Like we didn't know
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: we were making a show. We didn't care. We were
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: just partying, letting loose and having fun and then we
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: go back to our regular lives.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Did you want to be famous when you were younger?
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Do you have? Yeah? I always wanted to be in
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: front of a camera, me too.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Did you just I didn't really. Yeah, that's why I
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: chose to go into the music business. Rather than like
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: getting this singing degree and being like, I'm going to
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: go try to make it as a singer, I was like,
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: I want control over my fate. And then I had
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: a terrible time. I mean, I love the music business.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: I worked in finance for a while. I still do
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: a little bit right, but it's just like it's a job.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: It's a way to make money. It's not like my passion.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: But I do like entertaining people, and I feel good
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: in front of the camera.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I was meant to be here.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: I just it's not something I always wanted. You know.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: When I before I started on Jersey, I had a
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: long talks with my therapist. I guess they're not talks,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: they were actually sessions, so I was paying for them. Yes,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like her and I would go to lunch. It
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: wasn't like that. It was like I gave her money
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: and she tried to help me through my manic feelings
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: about going on to reality TV. But and we had
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: to like really look like like why am I doing this?
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Why do I want to do this? And what is
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: the draw? Because at the draw she would say to me,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: if fits money and fame doesn't really always work out
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: well when that is what's driving you as opposed to
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: what Like I so I want to I like making
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: people laugh. So I'm always I'm just a mess, and
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I've always been a hot mess. People have always laughed
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: at me, and I like it. I don't care if
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: you're laughing with me or at me, just like I
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: like to make people laugh. And so that was like
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: part of what I wanted to do. I think I
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: did a better job of it on my first season.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: But also, like people sometimes say to me, you can't
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: be this all the time, but it's like sometimes you're
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: the voice of reason. I was like, I like the
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: idea of going onto this show and like maybe saying
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: something I don't know that would like mediate like what
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: are my what is my purpose here? But like when
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: you think about that, you know, going on was it?
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Did you think to yourself. I guess you thought this
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: will just be fun, but do you have do you
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: have ideas? Or this is going to make me famous
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: that's what I really want?
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Or I mean, I'll say like this.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: When I first discovered this, I mean, Kyle and I
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: had been friends. It's a true story. I was at
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: my dentist's office and he knows Kyle and Everett and
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: who were my friends. And I had heard about this
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: house happening and I sho to be on the show.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: And I reached out to Kyle and say, yo, what
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: are you guys doing this summer. He's like, we're going
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: to do this thing. We have extra spot if you
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: want to join it, get out. So yeah, Like early on,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: I remember talking to Kyle and his thing was, Dude,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: we're already doing this anyway. We're having fun on the weekend,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: we're partying. But maybe there's something that could happen with this.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: We didn't know at all what that would be. But
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: I appreciated Kyle kind of he pushed me because I
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily like yeah, I goun ho. I was like,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: well why and he's like, it's not all about partying,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: And that stuck with me. Forever. It's a platform. It's
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: a party, but it's a platform, So what else could
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: we do with this? So I thought at that point
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: in my career I was in I worked for a
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: medical company. I was an outside sales rep. I'd been
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: sales rep at the year hit my quotas I was.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: But also it was a job I wasn't. I didn't
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: want to be a career dental salesperson, so I was
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: willing to take a chance. I didn't have a great
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: relationship with my boss at the time, and I was like,
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: I went to school for TV and film, I had
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: acted and modeled. I love a mic. I like what
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Jesse said. I enjoyed when I could make someone laugh
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: or be in front of a group, and it was
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: like a thing. So I was like, what could go wrong?
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: You know? And it to Kyle's point, he was like,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: there's more to this than just getting drunk. Yeah, So
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: my original thing was like, let's have fun and see
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: what could happen.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: You know, just think about how many guys your age
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: would they shy a waveman or would they look like
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: when I don't know, Jesse, how are you approached for it?
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: I had met Kyle.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Why are you laughing? Sorry, it's just tell me.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was choking on my lavane cookie.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: I had met Kyle like out in the city and
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: then he, I think, told the producers about me and
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: they messaged me on LinkedIn, and I knew of Summerhouse
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: because I had been to the Hamptons a lot.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: So I was like, yeah, this is a popular show.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Like I'll take the call.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: And I took the call, and I was like, listen,
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: I'm probably not going to do this because I'm about
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: to move back to Miami.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: You know, my job is great, but like, I am
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: your guy for this.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm tall. I talked to every girl
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: at the bar. So I just thought, you know, it
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: would be good for business. Of course, like we live
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: in this digital world where having followers and marketing and
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: eyeballs and all that. But yeah, I figured just at
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: least sharing my cancer story would help other people going
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: through something similar. I thought I wasn't expecting to have
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: a cancer scare on national television, but you know a
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: lot of people have like that anxiety going into those
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: appointments and kind of connected it and resonated with that story.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I just I thought it would be generally
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: good for like my finance career. I thought maybe I
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: could like launch another company. I ran a company for
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: four years called mickey Wow. That was a marketplace to
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: buy and sell commodities. So I just thought maybe I
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: could do like what.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: You just said. I knew you said something. You did something.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: We sold wood online to people and trying to punchline
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: to this. No, no sold what super boring business.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah that sounds horrible. That was also in dental sales,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: by the way.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: I know, there's just so much good I had so
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: many good one for people.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: You did.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: You can't handle the tooth?
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Oh god, wait all right, hold on. I feel very
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: out of control. It's the whole presence of these two
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: young men. They're too good looking, they're too charming, and
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I've lost my grip on just you.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: We're just talking.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I know I need to get done like you to
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: tell us about here.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah we won't.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: We don't need to take up all the time on
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: the software piece, but I'll you all tell.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: A little bit about we would like to tell my
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: millions and millions of viewers. H Yes, you know, to
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: be successful. You came to the right place, get on
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Just Jen.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm you know, I launched a new business this
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: past summer, which you'll you'll see a little bit about it,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: I hope, on the new season. But yeah, I'm still
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: working with Kyle and the lover Boy team. Very proud
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: of what we've built there. We launched a non alcoholic
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: lover Boy last year, and through launching that, I realized
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: there's still a huge opportunity in like an experience where
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: you can go and drink morning, afternoon or evening really
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: high quality non alcoholic drinks. So I've been you know,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: putting together a team and a brand and a vision
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: and I built and stood up like a proper company.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: So we have a four wall location in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: It'll be open in this spring in May. We're still
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: fingers crossed, but yeah, it's all about mindful consumption. So
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: I didn't set out to create a sober bar, even
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: though that's what every person thinks I did. That's not
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: what I'm doing because a lot.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Now, what would be bad about doing that?
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: Sober bar is very niche.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: It's just for sober people, and I want everybody to
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: come to what I'm opening up because I believe not
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: everybody's comfortable saying that they're sober or not. I want
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: every just to feel good about the quality of the
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: beverage and the space that's there. There are sober bars.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: I go to them, but they're weird. Yeah, it's not
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: a place that is someone who maybe is thinking about
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: sobriety whatever want to go to.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: It's like a meetings.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: It feels like an AA and again, I love AA.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: It saved my life, but I wanted to say something
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: that was for everyone and funny enough, I'll leave you
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: with this last data point. But like, statistically, the people
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: that still buy non alcoholic beverages ninety four percent of
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: sales are two people that still drink alcohol. Really, so
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: when you're building a company for ninety four percent or
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: six percent, six percent of the people that literally don't
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: drink at all, or the ninety six who still drink
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: but also buy all these products. Yeah, so that was
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: important to us when we're creating this kind of vision
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: that and that's soft bar and nutshell, but.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Is also you're not talking about the so.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: We've yeah, we've got amazing like slogans and taglines.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, I just think it's important because I was gifted
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: my favorite hat. Today, I gave Jen.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: One of our really cool merchandise pieces. We do have merch,
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: which I will say, if you're following a brand on
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Bravo or one of the people from our show or
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: other shows, we all launch merch because it's a huge
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: way to fund and support. Well, yes, for us, it's
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: to support our business right because merch is a way
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: for everybody across the country to access your brand if
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: you don't live in New York City or wherever your
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: business is. So we've been really lucky with the merch sales.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: What you're wearing today, it says here, comma you are.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: It's all about being present and the way the comma
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: and the period are integrated, being ten toes down, being present,
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: being mindful here that it's also I love Star Wars
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: and Yoda, and if you know Yoda, the way his
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: style of speak, he like reversus words.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: But it's super I'm thinking of I was thinking of
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: the Big Fat One.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: That's a classic, classic something Yoda would say. There is
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: no try only do wow.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: But the way I wonder too that from Nike, or
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: you think you got it from Yoda.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Yoda, just do it.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Yoda is a tremendous character on film, and his quotes
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: and how he speaks is one of the most unique things.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Really, we are learning things.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, Jess.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: The only thing I will plug is I have a
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: partnership with the American Cancer Society and we're about to
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: do a merch collab and all proceeds go to the
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: American Cancer Society.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Did you do one this past summer too?
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: That?
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: That was that didn't have like, it wasn't a true partnership.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: I just donated some of the money to them. Okay,
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: but this is like their logo, my logo WWJSD.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: So Solomon, we do do what would look coming together
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: for me? Now? So I'm going to ask this. I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: hope they don't embarrass myself. And I'm assuming right now
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: you are cancer free.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank god, thank god.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm so happy to hear that.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Knock on my one nut. Yeah, knock on wood.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: I knew a guy with one nut.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: I liked him.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: You like me back?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: I liked him just fine.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: No, I thought one was plenty.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Problem I got too, if you count the fake one.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: They give you fake nuts.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I just woke up and I was like, did
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: I get a fake get the.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Hell out of here?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: Really? Yeah?
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Why women love nuts that much? Or men love nuts?
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: I guess for the men, right.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: It's like, for like, if you looked at my schmeckel,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: you wouldn't be like, oh, that guy is one nut,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: but if you have only one, it kind of like
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: hangs in the got it.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it gives it more of a symmetrical Yes,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: there's nothing wearing one shoe and not wearing one shoe.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, I can hear that. I don't know. I'll tell
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: you I like the guy. I should write a song.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: I liked a guy with one nut and he didn't
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: like me back.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: That's powerful.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: That is powerful.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: Well, I will say I really having Jesse's share. I
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: didn't know obviously his story fully until after he shared that.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: But for someone who's also shared some very personal things
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: and you know, some challenging moments in our life, I
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: really appreciated him not only sharing that for the group
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: and getting to know him better, but also with the
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: impact he could have on the people that watch our show.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: And I see it on social and I see what
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: he's done. And we did an event you'll see on
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: the new season it's just powerful, Like we were with
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: cancer survivors and people that I mean, they're fighting really hard,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: and he's using his platform and his story to not
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: only help other people but inspire other people. Because it's
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: this happens in sobriety too, when you see someone else
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: who's gotten through something or already entered the door you're
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: about to enter, and it gives them a little bit
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: of confidence and faith that they can get through it too.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: And I know he's done that for people. Yeah, and listen,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: my story is a happy one. It has a happy ending,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: and not everybody is so lucky. So we just try
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: to do what we can to kind of inspire hope.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: And I have one of my best friends past of
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: ovarian cancer going back quite a few years ago, thank you.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: And but I have a friend who will be fine,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: thank God, is fighting cancer. Net cancer sucks and it
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: just changes everything. And I'm proud of you, proud of
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: you happy.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's literally saying, he's say doing that and
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: it's massive. So yes, love you, brother, I love you, brother,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I have a couple of questions for you, Jim.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Oh good, I love that really Yeah, Oh my goodness, what.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Do you look? Yeah? Go for it? Who is what
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: is your Who is your favorite person on Bravo besides
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Andy Khen? Do you watch other Bravo shows?
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: I watch every No, that's not true.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: I don't watch every besides Summerhouse?
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: What other like?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: What's your favorite?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Not including Summerhouse? Not including Okay, because you know we
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: were gonna yeah, knew you to say it wasn't going
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: to be you. But I love you to death, Jesse.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: But I have a special place in my heart for this.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: He was just so sad looking at the Belta Lounge.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm a diamond medallion. Now are you watching?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Which is weird because I have a house. We have
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: a house in Charleston, So I don't know why I
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: don't watch Southern.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Charm, But I do you watch like Salt Lake?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: I am obsessed.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: It's pretty fire.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: You guys both watch it? Do you watch House at all?
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Only Salt Lake? For whatever reason?
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Remind me not not to self. Don't buy Jesse.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Back on that. I've seen some Jersey check out. It's okay,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: I gotta go to peak.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't see the song, No, I got to watch. Yeah,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: I didn't know a song yeah, okay, anyway, sorry, so
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: my favorite person.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Like character, it doesn't necessarily you have to be something
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: friends with him. Just wondering who entertains you the most,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: son Bravo.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. I mean there's just like it's so,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: you know, who I really love. I don't know if
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: she's entertains me, but who I want to come back
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: as Lisa vander Pump. I would. I used to just
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: watch her and think, First of all, she looked do
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: you guys know who Jacqueline Smith is? There's this look
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: about Lisa right well, but there's this look about Lisa
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: vander Pump with her with the hair and the I
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: think she is so funny and so beautiful and so
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: she had a royal thing. Absolutely, it is very funny
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: and cool and cool and self deprecating and like just
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I just I want to say I aspire to a
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Lisa Vanderpump. So, now if you're asking me who do
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: I like love, that's like currently on. I mean, I
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: love all those Salt Lake girls. They are amazing, They're funny,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: they are so okay, all right, let's you know what
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: the truth is. And I didn't love this person until
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: my producer from Jersey told me how much he loved
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: this person and he convinced me. So, I don't know.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: It was weird. It's like, don't you get it? Don't
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: like I wasn't really getting her. Lisa Barlowe effing love her.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: I think she is so do you know who she is?
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: I met her at the fan fest shoes funny.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: She is so because she I like people that make
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: no apologies and it's like so cliche, be authentic, but
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: it's true, Like Lisa is she doesn't get like this
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: is who she is and she is a snob and
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: she is a brat and she owns it and she
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: doesn't like she's not mean, but she can't help it.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, I broke up, beautiful, what do you
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: want from me? Like that's just who I am?
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: And commercial with them, and I had met Lisa a
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: little bit, but not you know, I didn't have any
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: kind of great experience, not bad or anything. But they
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: were telling me how amazing Lisa was. Yeah, and had
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: so much fun doing the Wendy's commercial. Really, and I
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: saw it and it's a funny commercial. It's like Lisa's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: the therapist and Kyle Emander in like a counseling office
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: for a it's a Wendy's.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Ad they did.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: I mean Lisa was great. Kyle Amanda were great too,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: so they raved about her after that.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: My producer, so his name, well he's not producing my
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: show anymore because there's no show, but his name is
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Chris de Rosa, and he's just you guys know how
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: you get with the producer sometimes where you just I
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: fell so madly in love with Chris de Rosa. He
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: was like my person. And he was like, you know,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: a young guy, thirty something, and I'm calling him like
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: a little bitch, like every all day, every day, like
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: whining about stuff, and.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Well I do. I was a little bit.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: See fifty six year o women they're just like you.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: So but he's fifty.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: I think I like Jesse better than calling.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: I haven't brought up age at all. I just say
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, thank you. That's impossible.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: So okay, So but like I love him. What was
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: my part? Oh? But he was so nervous. He told
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: me the first time he met Lisa Barlow, this is
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: a guy who produced all of Old New York. This
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: is a producer that has done his like he's been
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: there he knows everybody. He said he started shaking when
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: he met Lisa Barlow. He became so overwhelmed. And think
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: about it, we're like and study. We didn't go to
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: act I went to acting school, but like we didn't.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: This is not one of the actors. People don't get that.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: You don't get so I did go. I wasn't a
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: good actress. But but I'm saying, like people get like shaken,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: you know. And so when he told me that, that's
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: when I sort of like looked at her differently, And
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: now I'm just obsessed. I love her? Who is yours?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Who is your favorites?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: I've really enjoyed a couple of different people. One I also,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: I actually really like I'm not gonna I think Madison
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: on Southern Charm has been very enjoyable.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Does she know that you feel this way?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: I mean we're friendly, Oh, we've.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: Friendly, friends, are friendly?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: She's married.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, sorry sorry Madisine.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: No, that is cool.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Like I think she's funny on Southern Charms.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Got it?
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: She she has a she can deliver some some real
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: good stuff. And then trying to think who else that's
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: I mean Kyle Cook on Summerhouse always so I had.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: He's a perfect example of somebody that I watching the
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: show and I can't. I didn't watch it consistently, but
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: I've enough to know who Kyle is and then meeting him.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I met him at Jen Guyser. There was dinner honoring
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Jen Guyser. Kyle was there and that was such a
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: different experience, like meeting him as opposed to being a viewer.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: I like that kid. He's he's so he was so sweet.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: Kyle's great and you might get some he has like
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: a lot of he's a lot of fun. I mean,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: I would argue he's the most fun person I've ever
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: partied with.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: And he brings a lot to what we do. He
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: likes to talk about business, so he has that other
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: great side conversationalist.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah really great.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you don't see you don't watch Housewives name
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: do you watch any other Brava.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: I watched last season of Southern Charm. I watched last
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: season of Southern Hospitality. Okay, I mean we're friendly with Craig, but.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: I like people any girls on any of the other
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: shows that you.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: I'm close with Shena. I love Sena and I love Brock.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: I've always been oh yeah, Tom Schwartz. Yeah, people seem
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: to hate him. I love How do you hate that?
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: Guys like the nicest, kindest people I haven't watched texted me.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: He's like, hey, but I just bought some softbar merch.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: I just want to let you know. It's like thanks,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: I would have sent you to like he bought it, Like.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: I have to tell you, like I never get when
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: people like do that, they start to hit. But that guy,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: he's like a Wes Wilson, Like you feel like you
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: just want to pet him. He's the cutest little things.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Great. I like Tom a lot. I think there must
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: be a reason he did. He must have done something bad.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes it's the company you keep around you
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: that can be a reflection of you sometimes.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but any girls on any of the shows that
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: you want to meet, there's one.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: There's a girl in the valley that's dropped dead gorgeous.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: I think, really, I think I'm married.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: She is married, but she's just gorgeous. She was she
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: was a pageant.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: Miss.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: I ask if you want to meet them? So now
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: you want me to You want to meet a woman
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: who's married? No, I thought you said who yet, Yes,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: you want to meet them.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: I'm actually trying to branch outside of the Bravos here
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: a little bit more.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: That's my boy, so you know, that's my boy and
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: I dated a.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: Little bit in the network, So it's good to Yes,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Jesse is learning what it's like dating within the show.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesse, do you go to Bravo Con last year?
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, they are going to eat you up alive.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: That's what people said about FanFest and nobody ate me.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: FanFest is not the same thing. What hold on? Okay, wait,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: let me just readjust okay, we're not going to play.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: I wasn't even there, so I heard about it looked fun.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: But oh yeah it was a lot of Miami cast.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: Like housewives actually want to like hook up with the
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: summerhouse boy.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: There's more than just housewives, first of all, No, I
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: mean do I think that maybe, yes.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, there are some I've had over my years on
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: being in this network. I've had there are housewives that
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: are no longer on the Housewives shows, but I've been
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: out late at night with or listen.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: I mean I think that there are when housewives are single.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: You didn't used to be right, these have to be married. Well,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Bethany I guess wasn't. But like, if you're going to
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Brava Khan and there are these gorgeous young men there,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: the answer is yes, they want to hook up with
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: summerhouse boys. I don't they want to marry them or
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: you know, have babies with them.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm kind of like, I don't know. It's
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: if you're in the same world a little bit. It
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: almost kind of gives like a co sign, Yeah, like
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: you're okay, it can't be that bad. Yeah, he's in
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: the Bravo world too, but be careful because they're the crossover.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: I'll give you an example back in you know, twenty sixteen,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: when first film the first season a Summerhouse. That's when
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: we met the Vanner Pump. Sheena and I were friendly,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: and then I hung out with her again in twenty seventeen.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: But like that got like publicly picked up that we
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: had hung out.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: And did you I mean, I don't know. Now it's
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: like you is hanging out having sex.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I we didn't actually have sex, but I said
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: we hook up, but everybody assumed that was sex and
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: then it was a whole thing.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: But she and I were cool.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: But what I'm getting at is that was publicized outside
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: of Van or Pump's show and Summerhouse's show. It was
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: just public that shit, of course, so you have like
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: it just created more stuff. I mean it wasn't on purpose.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: I never We had a late night at a bar
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: in New York and then went home together in it.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: From there, people are like asking, what's going on with
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: Karl and Chena? But I was back in like twenty seventeen,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, and.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: What is going on with Carl?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: And we're still friends? But she got married and all that.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: But it's just funny.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: How is there anyone any of the show.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Across across show hookups can blow up outside of that too.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Listen, I think that's part of the fun, right You
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: kind of want that.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Little I think some people do. But I have to
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: learn dating inside this world can be very polarizing and
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: challenging something. Yeah, I totally underestimated how hard it would be.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, I share.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: I have a lot of respect for the husbands and wives,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: the Kyle's, the amandas who put it all out there.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: But also it stays strong. I mean it's not easy.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: No, it's not any regrets about this past season specifically, m.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: You know, I do I do something that I apologize
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: for profusely, but.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't anything that was, in my opinion, so
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: unforgivable that.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Well was it another people's minds very unforgive.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: No, it'll be okay, Yeah, it'll be fodder for It'll
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: be fodder for a bit, but okay. The short term
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: memory of a lot of this has actually been pretty
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: surprising to me, just because I, you know, I put
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: a lot out there and people remember me for certain
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: things and then literally forget, like things that I thought
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: are very obvious about me.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: It just is what it is.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: I want to imagine. I also like going back and
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: now with you and the woman who will whose name
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Remi rhymes with Schnindsey. So that person, like, what is
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: it like to had to know and have in your
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: head that you're gonna have to go and be back
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: in that space? And I've done that for Wes and
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: he was with that beautiful woman for a very lunch
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: you know, Blitz.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Well, one thing the difference is this, I was friends
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: with Lindsay for many years before we got together, so
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: we had a foundation of friendship. Oh right, remembering from
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, I met Lindsay and very close as friends
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: and continue to be very close friends. Then obviously we
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: started dating, so I had a lot of time and
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: I still care about her and wish the best for her.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: So I a weird cares about you and whisch is
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: the best for you?
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: No, No, that's that's why. That's why I pray for
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: her though you know I want, I hope. That's how
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: I release everything for me is by offering grace and
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: praying for her because I really do want the best
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: for her, and that's how I can go live my
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: life now. Just give her a little bit of you know,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: wish you the best, and then go focus on what
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: I got to get. Didn't she say in the trail,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: She's like, I don't want well, anybody who says that.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: Is the person you pray for, you're a better man
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: than I am.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: It's I have a sponsor, I work, I worked steps.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: I talk about emotions and resentments and things that ultimately
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: confess her and build up in your body, and it's
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: important for me to address it. I'm not saying I'm
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: not perfect at all, but when it comes to like
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: a breakup.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: And normal and then in the world as we know it.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: You don't go back and live in the summerhouse with
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: the with the ex fiance. I mean, there's nothing easy
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: makes for great TV.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I was again, I had a lot of good friendships.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: My best friends are all in this house. Yes, it's
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: very it was unique, but I think after the first
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: you'll see, after the first kind of it, we kind
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: of like Captain Nevin and.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how it happened. I don't
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: know what happened with West and Sierra and now Jesse.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling that I know who is going
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: to be your love interest just from that little trailer.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: But like, are you now okay? You know what, I'm
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: not gonna even do it because you probably can't talk
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: about it and I'm not that kind of podcast host. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: so we're gonna left anyway, what's her name?
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: You'll see me date Lexi on the show, and she
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: is a great girl.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: I'll let you know about that. Because now I have
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: to be team Jesse. I got to get some girls
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: in here, you guys.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: We got a books girls, the other the other half
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: of the crew and the other girls.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: I would love that. I would love to get Kyle
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: on also love you both. Thank you again. Happy happy
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Wanda, whatever it is that you celebrate, Happy
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: New Years. Bye guys, thanks for listening.