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Devin Jackson on NFL Draft week, 1st Round Thursday night, Where will Utes be picked (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 1: You tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show for the Murdoch
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show.
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Speaker 3: Time to talk to a little NFL draft, which, of
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Speaker 3: home of the NFL Draft, on your home of the utes.
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Speaker 3: Devin Jackson kind enough to join us NFL Draft insider
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Speaker 3: over at the Philadelphia Inquirer.
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Speaker 2: Devin, Welcome to the show again. How are you, sir?
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Speaker 1: Doing great? Thanks for having me on again, Sean, And yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is a draft week and one of the most
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Speaker 1: exciting weeks of the year, so I'm looking forward to.
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Speaker 2: The Dexter Lawrence trade.
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Speaker 3: How much does that alter the the top of this
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Speaker 3: draft now that you know Cincinnati and the Giants came
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Speaker 3: to that agreement.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it changes the way that the Giants
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Speaker 1: approach it a little bit, and not more so with
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Speaker 1: like necessarily the first pick, but I think with the
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Speaker 1: second pick because now it opens them up. You know,
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Speaker 1: it felt like you know, they were going to you know,
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Speaker 1: probably go you know, best available at number five, whether
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Speaker 1: it's going to be Killed Downs or jere My Love
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Speaker 1: or Sunning Styles and then maybe on on the day
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Speaker 1: two of the draft go after a receiver. But now
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Speaker 1: they have a chance with two top ten picks to
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Speaker 1: you know, pair a defensive player up with a weapon
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Speaker 1: for Jackson Dart. So I think for the Giants, you're
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Speaker 1: looking at probably Caleb Downs and Sunny Styles at number
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Speaker 1: five overall scenes where a lot of the smoke is
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Speaker 1: starting to lean toward. And at number ten, if there's
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Speaker 1: a receiver there, like a Jordan Tyson, I think that
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Speaker 1: would make a lot of sense for the Giants. But
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Speaker 1: you know, they also could use them interior line help
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Speaker 1: and you know Vega Yuanna from Penn State, I think
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Speaker 1: will make a lot of sense. And I think it
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Speaker 1: gives them some flexibility in that first round and changes
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Speaker 1: a little bit the way that maybe that you know,
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Speaker 1: those picks eleven through fifteen, eleven through sixteen shapeout and
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Speaker 1: maybe there's a tackle that slides down the board a
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Speaker 1: little bit because obviously the Giants are off the tackle
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Speaker 1: right now.
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Speaker 2: Was this a win for Cincinnati?
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Speaker 3: We've talked about how they just don't have the defense
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Speaker 3: to match what they've got offensively. But also, you know,
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Speaker 3: if you're Joe Burrow and you're looking at like, cool,
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Speaker 3: we've got a defensive lineman.
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Speaker 2: Can I get an offensive lineman?
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Speaker 1: Maybe?
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Speaker 2: Is this the right move for Cincinnati in your opinion?
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Speaker 1: You know, I think for them it, you know, I
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Speaker 1: think right now, yeah, probably so, because you know, I
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Speaker 1: think they just haven't been really hitting on their first
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Speaker 1: round picks. So the late you know, I think they
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Speaker 1: you know, our a team that you know, goes for
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Speaker 1: the high upside trades for the developmental player, typically round one,
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Speaker 1: and they just haven't been hitting on those guys lately.
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Speaker 1: And obviously the Jerry's still out on Shamar Stewart. But
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Speaker 1: you know, I think for the Cincinnati Bengals, you know,
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Speaker 1: you need, you know, a guy that's going to be product,
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Speaker 1: that can give you stuff right away and right now.
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Speaker 1: And so I think it's a good first start. You know,
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Speaker 1: I think Dexa Lawrence certainly helps that defense, but they're
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Speaker 1: still going to need some more secondary help and obviously,
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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, offensive line help, and they still have
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Speaker 1: to nail of draft. So I think right now is
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Speaker 1: a good first step for Cincinnati, but they still have
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Speaker 1: some work to do, for sure.
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Speaker 3: I was listening to Rich Eyesen this morning and he
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Speaker 3: had Fernanda Mendoza on, and obviously Fernando still projected to
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Speaker 3: be the number one pick through the Raiders when you
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Speaker 3: watch his film and you listen to his interviews, and
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Speaker 3: you know, fit is an important thing. And we've had
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Speaker 3: former players on and we've had people talking about how, look,
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Speaker 3: Fernana Mendoza was undeniably a great college football player. I
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Speaker 3: know that we've kind of touched on this before the
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Speaker 3: aw shocks boy scout thing. Is it going to work
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Speaker 3: in Las Vegas of all places?
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Speaker 1: You know, I think it's going to work if they're
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Speaker 1: having success. You know, I think it does don't really matter,
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Speaker 1: you know, the way that you know people are, you know,
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Speaker 1: maybe perceived, or the leadership that they bring, or the
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Speaker 1: type of stuff that they bring. You know, I think
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Speaker 1: every player is a little bit different, you know, uh,
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Speaker 1: the way that they approach the game, all those things.
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Speaker 1: But I think success, you know, trump's everything, you know,
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Speaker 1: whether you know it's the way you know, whether you
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Speaker 1: have like quiet leadership like a Justin Herbert, or you
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Speaker 1: you have kind of more you know, those Rara speeches
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Speaker 1: that you've seen in the past. I think it all
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Speaker 1: comes down to how successful he is early in his
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Speaker 1: career in Las Vegas, and if he can really elevate
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Speaker 1: the offense and make it, you know, it doesn't have
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Speaker 1: to be like a top ten offense, but but something
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Speaker 1: that's enjoyable to watch. That's something that you know they're
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Speaker 1: moving the ball consistently and being you know, somewhat of
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Speaker 1: an explosive offense. So I don't really look at it
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Speaker 1: as a fact like is it going to fit in
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Speaker 1: the locker room. I think more so, you know, whatever
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Speaker 1: he brings to the table, you know, can he win?
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Speaker 1: And I think that's what teammates, uh and players mostly
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Speaker 1: care about more than anything, you know, and and obviously
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Speaker 1: the coaches and the owners. Can you win and can
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Speaker 1: you you know, go up against some of the best
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Speaker 1: within your division because you're going to be playing against
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Speaker 1: Herbert and Patrick Mahones, and can you really elevate the offense?
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Speaker 1: So I think that's what's going to matter most about
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Speaker 1: Mendoza's fit is not necessarily his personality or the way
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Speaker 1: that he approaches his leadership, but I think if he
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Speaker 1: can elevate the offense and truly win some games for them,
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Speaker 1: because that's what they desperately need right now.
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Speaker 3: And obviously he's the first name we expect to hear
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Speaker 3: called with Utah ties and you know, what's the latest
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Speaker 3: on Spencer Fano everything you're hearing?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he goes in you know, the kind
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Speaker 1: of that I think you're looking at a range of
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Speaker 1: probably like eleven to nineteen is where I feel like
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Speaker 1: he comfortably fits in. You know, I think he's going
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Speaker 1: to be a guy that you know, probably doesn't go
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Speaker 1: you know, inside the top ten. You know, it's certainly possible,
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Speaker 1: but you know, I think there's not a ton of
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Speaker 1: like tackle needy teams in that range, So I think
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Speaker 1: that was what's going to make his landing spot interesting.
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Speaker 1: But you know, in the teams in the late late teens,
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Speaker 1: I think that makes a lot of sense for his range.
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Speaker 1: And I don't think he's a guy that that's going
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Speaker 1: to get too down too far down the board, and
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Speaker 1: then if he does start to slip, I think you're
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Speaker 1: going to see teams get a little bit aggressive and
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Speaker 1: going up and grab them. But yeah, I expect him
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Speaker 1: to go within that eleven and nineteen range and you know, comfortably,
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Speaker 1: you know, and kind of that first half of the
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Speaker 1: first round, and if not, he won't last that much longer.
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Speaker 3: Is Ohio State going to be the most decorated, the
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Speaker 3: most talked about college program after this draft? I mean,
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Speaker 3: we hear a bunch of big names up top. You've
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Speaker 3: already mentioned a couple of them, and that's one thing
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Speaker 3: that helps in recruiting. It helps in the reputation of
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Speaker 3: a college program moving forward. Obviously, Utah's expecting to get
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Speaker 3: a little bump, especially on the offensive line recruiting when
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Speaker 3: they can say, yeah, we had two tackles, maybe both
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Speaker 3: of them in the first round or a first round guy,
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Speaker 3: a second round guy. Which team is going to come
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Speaker 3: out looking the best after this draft? From a college standpoint, Yeah, I.
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Speaker 1: Think you have to go Ohio State. You know, there's
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Speaker 1: a potential that you know, three picks inside the top
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Speaker 1: ten are from Ohio State and from the defensive side
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Speaker 1: of the ball, you know. I think that speaks volumes
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Speaker 1: to you know, what they're they've been able to do
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Speaker 1: recruiting wise, what they've been able to do development wise.
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Speaker 1: Obviously playing under Matt Patricia last year certainly helped a
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Speaker 1: lot of those prospects to getting NFL coaching and guy
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Speaker 1: with NFL head coaching experience and defensive coordinator experience at
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Speaker 1: the next level. So I think for Ohio State you
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Speaker 1: have to save them, But I also say Indiana is
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Speaker 1: probably not too far behind. I think obviously in those
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Speaker 1: of being the first overall pick, then you're going to
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Speaker 1: have guys that go on Day two like D'Angelo Ponds
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Speaker 1: and Elijah Surratt, and obviously Omark Cooper Junior could also
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Speaker 1: be a first round guy too. So I think Ohiose
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Speaker 1: and Indiana are the two teams that come out looking
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Speaker 1: you know, some of the best, you know, because I
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Speaker 1: think it goes to show, especially on Indiana's perspective and
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Speaker 1: not really having that top upper echelon type prospects in
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Speaker 1: the draft class usually they're a little bit of later
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Speaker 1: round or UDF eight guys. They're going to have, you know,
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Speaker 1: maybe five to six even seven guys drafted, but Ohio
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Speaker 1: State is kind of the standard and they have been
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Speaker 1: for a little bit, and they're they're once again, you know,
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Speaker 1: having top guys come out and be top picks in
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Speaker 1: the NFL draft.
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Speaker 3: Trent Williams in the forty nine ers have reached an
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Speaker 3: agreement and he's extended. Now he's with the team through
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Speaker 3: the end of twenty twenty seven. And Caleb Lomu has
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Speaker 3: been talked about as you know, potential fit with the
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Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine ers. I think a short term
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Speaker 3: deal like that probably doesn't change anything for him if
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Speaker 3: the Niners are interested in him. But I wanted to
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Speaker 3: get your thoughts on it. Does Trent Williams being extended
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Speaker 3: change what the Niners do with their pick at the
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Speaker 3: end of the first round.
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. You know, I think for for
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Speaker 1: San Francisco, they're kind of in a weird spot, right,
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Speaker 1: you know, They're they're twenty seven overall, They're they're trying
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Speaker 1: to can continue to extend a Super Bowl window, So
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Speaker 1: I think maybe it makes off the tackle a little
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Speaker 1: less likely. But you know, if Cale Lomu is the
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Speaker 1: best player available on their board, I can certainly see
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Speaker 1: them taking them because Lomo's not Lomo is not going
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Speaker 1: to be a guy that you know is going to
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Speaker 1: be an immediate starter at the NFL level. Think he's
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Speaker 1: going to take some time to develop and you know,
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Speaker 1: get acclimated to the game and get a little bit stronger.
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Speaker 1: But I think for San Francisco, you're you're looking at
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Speaker 1: really a situation where, you know, even if Trent Williams
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Speaker 1: plays really well this year, you know, he's missed games
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Speaker 1: and he's been banged up over the last couple of years,
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Speaker 1: and he just hasn't been on the field, maybe as
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Speaker 1: much as San Francisco likes. So you also got to
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Speaker 1: think about the long term aspect of it. Yes, he's
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Speaker 1: still playing well well into his thirties, but you've got
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Speaker 1: to have that contingency plan ready in case he does
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Speaker 1: walk away from the game, in case, you know, they
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Speaker 1: do decide to trade him or something like that next offseason.
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Speaker 1: So I think with Lomu, you know, being a potential
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Speaker 1: fit there, I think it still makes sense. You know,
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, for San Francisco it's it's Lowmu.
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Speaker 1: Maybe they could go safety and take it like a guy,
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Speaker 1: like a man, and McNeil Warren from Toledo. Maybe they
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Speaker 1: could go receiver and add more to the receiver room,
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Speaker 1: you know, after losing a couple of guys this offseason.
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Speaker 1: So I think for the forty nine ers it opens
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Speaker 1: up a little bit for what they could do at
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Speaker 1: twenty seven. But obviously it just depends on what the
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Speaker 1: board dictates and who's there at twenty seven.
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Speaker 3: What is Jeremiah Love going to be in the NFL?
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Speaker 3: You hear some pundits talk and say this, he's the
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Speaker 3: best player overall, but he's a running back and some
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Speaker 3: teams devalue that position, and recently, I think because of
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Speaker 3: guys like Christian McCaffrey, teams have once again embraced how
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Speaker 3: valuable a great running back can be. What does Jeremiah
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Speaker 3: Love in this draft and in the first five ten
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Speaker 3: years of his career.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's one of the best players in
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Speaker 1: this draft class. And I think is now even just
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Speaker 1: the running ability and the elusiveness in the open field
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Speaker 1: as the value brings as a pass catcher. You know,
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Speaker 1: Nordame really split him out a little bit more this
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Speaker 1: year and allowed him to run routes and win you know,
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Speaker 1: vertically and win one on one against safeties and linebackers.
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Speaker 1: That specific skill set is so valuable for NFL teams
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Speaker 1: because he's not a guy that you're just going to
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Speaker 1: hand the ball off to thirty times in the backfield.
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Speaker 1: He's a guy you can throw it to in the flat,
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Speaker 1: you can throw it to one on one situations with linebackers.
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Speaker 1: So you know, I think skill set wise, he's coming
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Speaker 1: in and you know, you can make an argument maybe
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Speaker 1: top seven, top eight on skill alone, you know, because
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Speaker 1: there's not many guys that can bring that two way
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Speaker 1: and that two way dynamy, dynamic ability, and I think
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Speaker 1: that's I would love. You're you're getting a guy that
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Speaker 1: has a chance to quickly ascend into that top ten,
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Speaker 1: top twelve range of running backs just because of a
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Speaker 1: skill set alone. And the production I think is going
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Speaker 1: to be key to what he does. But yeah, I
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Speaker 1: think you're you're getting out prospect that's more in the
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Speaker 1: elk of like a Christian McCaffrey, where he was so
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Speaker 1: good with the ball in his hands no matter where
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Speaker 1: he was. You can can put him out as a
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Speaker 1: slot receiver and he can can make things happen. So
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Speaker 1: I think that that gives him, you know, some strong ability.
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Speaker 1: I think Jon Robinson too is probably in that elk
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Speaker 1: as well. With the last you know, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: I guess eight ers are nine drafts. You know, Sae
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Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley up there. You know, if you bring value
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Speaker 1: as a receiver out of the backfield, you know, and
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Speaker 1: in addition to being a home run hitter as a runner,
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Speaker 1: you're going to find you know, early success in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: And I think Love is on that trajectory.
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Speaker 2: You're out there in Philadelphia. How is the A. J.
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Speaker 2: Brown saga going to end?
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Speaker 1: Well, all reports seem like it's going to end in
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Speaker 1: the trade. You know. It seems like it's trending that way.
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Speaker 1: And you know, post room first, when when the money
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Speaker 1: will be spread out over two years instead of taking
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Speaker 1: a big deck dead cap hit this year. It seems
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Speaker 1: like it is probably coming to end this summer. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think it's certainly not you know, a great time
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Speaker 1: right now, obviously with the draft coming up, and you know,
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Speaker 1: hearing that Brown is probably going to be traded. It's
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Speaker 1: been trending that way for a while. You know. I
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Speaker 1: think there's still a little bit of a denial for
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Speaker 1: Eagles fans because It's hard to see a guy that
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Speaker 1: was so you know, vital and critical for the Eagles
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Speaker 1: super Bowl success, you know, the super Bowl runs that
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Speaker 1: they've had over the last couple of years to want
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Speaker 1: to still be out and and you know, go go
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Speaker 1: about his business and go somewhere else. But I think
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Speaker 1: he's at a point of his career where, you know, productive,
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Speaker 1: he wants more production, you know, he wants to be
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Speaker 1: more involved in the offense, and the Eagles just aren't
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Speaker 1: at that juncture right now with still Leaving, leaning a
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Speaker 1: lot of heavy run, heavy offense and uh, kind of
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Speaker 1: relying on Brown to kind of bail out the passing offense,
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Speaker 1: you know, on vertical shots. So I think, you know,
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Speaker 1: a J. Brown, you know, it seems like he's gonna
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Speaker 1: probably end up as a New England Patriot, and uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, I think for for the Eagles, it seems
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Speaker 1: like the bestla is inevitable at this point.
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Speaker 2: What are the Eagles going to do in the first round.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think They're going to go offensive tackle. I
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Speaker 1: think they're they're going to want to try and get
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Speaker 1: you know, better at that spot and want to have
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Speaker 1: a contingency plan for Lane Johnson. You know he's entering
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Speaker 1: that's wildlife of his career. You know, he's still playing
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Speaker 1: at a high level, but he's been banged up over
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. You know, he missed games
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Speaker 1: last year. You know, he missed games the year before.
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Speaker 1: So I think for the Eagles, they want to try
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Speaker 1: and get you know, kind of a successor to him,
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Speaker 1: uh and and guys that can can fit in, you know,
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Speaker 1: maybe a guard, maybe a tackle. Looking at Caden Proctor
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Speaker 1: from Alabama, I think he's been a name connected to
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Speaker 1: the egos throughout this process. Massive offensive lineman, power, athleticism,
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Speaker 1: everything you look for, and kind of that bigger offensive
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Speaker 1: lineman type. Monroe Freeling from Georgia. You know, he could
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Speaker 1: go as highs in the top ten. You know, it
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Speaker 1: could be a guy that lasts a little bit into
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Speaker 1: the teams in early twenties. So I think those two
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Speaker 1: guys are at the top of the list, and you
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Speaker 1: know they can go Maxie Honis for from Arizona State.
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Speaker 1: You know, they could go low move from Utah as
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Speaker 1: options as well. So I think tackle is at the
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Speaker 1: top of the list. And then you know next you know,
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Speaker 1: is Kenyan Cidy gonna make it down to twenty three.
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Speaker 1: Probably not so I probably crossed him off the board,
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Speaker 1: but maybe he's available via trade up. And then after that,
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Speaker 1: I think receiver he has to come in mind. You know,
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Speaker 1: Jordan Tyson seemed like a guy that was potentially falling
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Speaker 1: down a board, but it seems like he's probably going
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Speaker 1: to go you know, top ten, top fifteen, so probably
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Speaker 1: out of the Eagles range. But Casey Concepcioned from Texas,
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Speaker 1: A and M is certainly an option for the Eagles.
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Speaker 1: Dinzel Boston from Washington, Omar Cooper Junior from Indiana. So
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Speaker 1: I think all those things combined, I would go, you know,
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Speaker 1: probably tackle the maybe receiver and then maybe edge rusher
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Speaker 1: as a third position that they could target. But I
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Speaker 1: think off of the tackle is the group they've done
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Speaker 1: the most work on during this pre draft process and
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Speaker 1: the most likely pick I think at twenty three for
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Speaker 1: the Eagles.
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Speaker 3: I know it's not going to be a first round pick,
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Speaker 3: but you did have a chance to catch up with
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Speaker 3: Utah zone Dallon Bentley at the Shrine Bowl, and you
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Speaker 3: know that's a name that's been floating around in the
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Speaker 3: Eagles circles as far as I know, so is there
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Speaker 3: a possibility that Dallon Bentley ends up wearing Eagles grain.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly. I mean the Eagles were down at the
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Speaker 1: Shrine Bowl. They had like a heavy scouting staff, you know, present.
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Speaker 1: So I think with getting a guy like Bentley in,
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Speaker 1: you know, get him on Day three. Guy that can
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Speaker 1: come in has some blocking ability. The receiving ability, I
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Speaker 1: think is what's really going to interest teams and interest
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Speaker 1: the Eagles specifically. And the guy that still has a
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Speaker 1: runway to develop. You know, he's still relatively new to
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Speaker 1: the position. You know, he played in high school, you know,
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Speaker 1: and only had one snap before his season ended. You know,
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Speaker 1: he went on a mission of Latter Day Saints and
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Speaker 1: then he came back, went to Jugo Route, played a
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Speaker 1: couple of years tight end there and then a couple
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Speaker 1: of years at Utah. So he's been on quite the journey,
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Speaker 1: you know, from you know, playing one snap in high
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Speaker 1: school to potentially be an NFL draft pick. And I
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Speaker 1: think he will fit a long term need for the
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Speaker 1: Eagles because the Eagles only have you know, I think
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Speaker 1: like five or six tight ends on the roster, but
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Speaker 1: about three of them or three or four of them
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Speaker 1: only have one year deals left, so they need more
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Speaker 1: tight ends in that room and need some young, younger
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Speaker 1: presents in there, and I think Dallan Bentley checks a
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Speaker 1: lot of those boxes and they've been interested in him
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Speaker 1: throughout the process.
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Speaker 3: Enjoy the draft. Always appreciate your insight and your time, Devin.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having me on Sean. Look forward to
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Speaker 1: maybe talking again somedown the line. Sometime down the line
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Speaker 3: We absolutely will be checking in again, probably recapping where
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Speaker 3: the Utes get drafted.