Latest / The SmallBizChat with Melinda Emerson / Helping Your Employees Be Safe and Stay Motivated During COVID-19 with Lori M. Ruffin
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- 0:003, 10, 1, 0, ignition, liftoff,
- 0:08Ending small business failure.
- 0:11Welcome to the Small Biz Chat podcast with a number 1 small business expert Melinda Emerson.
- 0:17Bolinda's goal is to end small business failure, and she'll give you the information
- 0:21you need to succeed and live the life you've dream of.
- 0:25No.
- 0:25Here's the small biz lady herself.
- 0:29Melinda Emerson.
- 0:31Hi.
- 0:31Good evening, everybody.
- 0:32This is Melinda Emerson.
- 0:33The small biz America's number one small business expert, and I'm happy to welcome you
- 0:38to small biz chat.
- 0:41Now small biz chat live is a peer to peer interview show that gives small business owners
- 0:47a way to get and share invaluable business advice.
- 0:51The mission of small business chat is to end small business failure.
- 0:55If you have been suffering or your business has been adversely affected by the pandemic,
- 1:01Chances are your employees are suffering too, and you must consider how to get ready to get
- 1:06them back to business.
- 1:08My next guest, Lori Ruffin, is an UPI strategist, thinker, speaker, and founder of
- 1:12the COO team, an operations agency that specializes in helping visionary leaders get
- 1:19the strategy and systems they need to scale.
- 1:21She's drawing from her.
- 1:23Experiences of fortune with fortune 500 companies serving national and international
- 1:27nonprofits, and she specializes in working with entrepreneurs who lead small and midsize
- 1:33businesses to expand their capacity.
- 1:36Laurie, thank you so much for being with us.
- 1:38You know, you guys over at the COO team has been working hard these days, helping everybody
- 1:44figure out what to do to keep their employees safe and and and and compliant, frankly.
- 1:49So welcome to small business chat.
- 1:51Thank I'm really glad to be with you, Melinda.
- 1:53When everything happened back in March with COVID-nineteen when we were sheltering in place
- 1:58and understand home orders, a lot of leaders found themselves just disillusioned and
- 2:05wondering what in the world are we gonna do for our organization?
- 2:08What are we gonna say to our people?
- 2:10And that was a very disorienting time.
- 2:13And then you fast forward to the end of May and you've got the recent deaths of George Floyd
- 2:18and Breonna Taylor and the the civil unrest that ensued after that.
- 2:23And so it's another hit.
- 2:24And so by now, you see that people are impacted by children being at home by dealing with the
- 2:31financial distress and uncertainty of either being laid off or not knowing if you would be
- 2:36laid off, all of these things have caused a lot of tension and a lot of disruption for our
- 2:42people.
- 2:43And so at the CO team, what we've been doing is continuing to walk alongside of visionary
- 2:49leaders, executive directors, CEOs, helping them to really think what do we need to do now
- 2:55to support our people.
- 2:57As we know, people are the backbone of an organization.
- 3:00They're the ones who are delivering the service.
- 3:04Selling the product and our ability to support our teams really makes a difference in whether
- 3:10or not we are gonna actually be able to survive times like this.
- 3:14And still show up for our clients and for our customers.
- 3:17So how can we teams motivated with all of that?
- 3:21I mean, all of that back story.
- 3:22It's like, oh, okay.
- 3:23Well, how am I gonna get Johnny to come to work on Monday?
- 3:26You know, like, what what do I gotta do and and to have him be invest it and present when he
- 3:32gets to work.
- 3:33What do I need to do?
- 3:34Yes.
- 3:35Well, one of the things that we really early on encouraged leaders to do was to revisit your
- 3:40value.
- 3:41So I really love that Mary Fran suggested that and recommended that It's so important because
- 3:46it's the consistency on how we deliver on our values in times of distress that builds trust
- 3:54or creates an dissonance of hypocrisy or apathy.
- 3:58This is not the time to kinda sit back and say, hey, we'll just kinda ride this out.
- 4:03No.
- 4:03It's time to double down on our values and revisit them if we don't know them, kind of go
- 4:07back into those strategic documents and say, what have we said we are about?
- 4:12And now let's actually show up in ways that are consistent with that and I think that that
- 4:17really helps organizations, 1, deliver on their brand promise internally, but then also it
- 4:23gives the team something to to to remind themselves of why did I join this organization
- 4:30originally and yes, I can continue to count on what we said we are about.
- 4:35Well, how can you help sort of
- 4:37the businesses that you work within and all of us too?
- 4:40Think about a company reset versus just a restart.
- 4:45Right?
- 4:45You can't just assume people are gonna come back and step back into the roles they were in
- 4:50and be good.
- 4:51Right?
- 4:52I mean, that's not really realistic.
- 4:53Well, things have changed so much.
- 4:55I mean, think about it A lot of organizations have had to pivot.
- 4:58We were able to walk with a lot of organizations that had face to face programs
- 5:03and events and they had to bring those things online.
- 5:06So, part of it is discovering together as a team.
- 5:11What do we need to do now?
- 5:12And so once you we always refer to a few things as grounding elements.
- 5:17So, one, we talk about values, but we would also say that vision and mission are really
- 5:22important?
- 5:22Like, what is the main problem that you're seeking to solve in the world and what and what
- 5:26are you doing it for whom?
- 5:28Once you kinda coalesce the team around those factors, then you can explore, okay, now the
- 5:34landscape is different.
- 5:35What does it look like for us to serve our clients given our current limitations, and
- 5:41sometimes we don't know the answers to that question.
- 5:44So instead of restarting, as if we're continuing to do what we used to do, we are
- 5:48resetting.
- 5:49We're resetting expectations.
- 5:51We're inviting our teams into conversation around defining how do we move forward and
- 5:58continue to provide value and service to our client.
- 6:00And we do that together.
- 6:02So now that we're some businesses in some parts of the country are reopening, how should
- 6:08business owners create saving and welcoming environments for those employees that are
- 6:13coming back.
- 6:14And what if your people are like?
- 6:16Look, man, I don't feel comfortable coming back.
- 6:18I mean, what, you know, how do you handle what should your reaction be to all of that?
- 6:24Yes.
- 6:24I think flexibility is key, Melinda.
- 6:27This is not the time to be heavy handed.
- 6:30It's really important to think about what is essential and what is flexible and so one,
- 6:36every state is in a different phase of reopening phase 1, phase 2, phase 3, really
- 6:41tracking and finding out what are the governing recommendations around preparing your actual
- 6:48space for, having people in, what the social distancing look look like, making sure that you
- 6:53have the right cleaning phone calls.
- 6:55And so doing those things and letting your team know that you are committed to honoring those
- 7:00recommendations and then allowing people to have provisions.
- 7:05Some people are in high risk categories and they may need to continue to work from home.
- 7:10Be supportive of that.
- 7:11Utilize technology.
- 7:13We've been doing this for, you know, the last 4 months And so if we need to extend that, I
- 7:19think part of that goodwill is is really having that conversation with your team members and
- 7:24finding out what does each need, what can they do, and how can we work together to make sure
- 7:29that the essential elements of our operations can be taken care of but that we're able to
- 7:34meet people where they are.
- 7:36So how can you foster an environment with your team that encourages new ideas and innovation
- 7:42right now?
- 7:43Mean, absolutely.
- 7:44How do we do that?
- 7:45We've gotta make time for it.
- 7:47So if we do not schedule it on our calendar, we will not actually get it done.
- 7:52Right?
- 7:53So one of the things that organizations can do is schedule time, whether that's biweekly or
- 7:58weekly to create space for new ideas and innovation.
- 8:03You know, a lot of times, well, before pre COVID 19, we talked about stand up meetings
- 8:08where you rally the team together and maybe throw out an idea and allow people to just kind
- 8:13of brainstorm and ideate That can keep people energized and feeling like they can contribute
- 8:19to problem solving and or just expressing new ideas for how to do old things.
- 8:25Sure.
- 8:26Now one of the things that I that I wanted to make sure I asked you about was this concept of
- 8:32staying connected with furloughed employees and then kinda managing the the expectations of
- 8:39your current employees that are still employed.
- 8:42I mean, some of them may have, I guess, what we call, like, survivor's guilt, you know, because
- 8:47they'd be like, wow, you know, these four people got laid off, but I still got my job.
- 8:51You know, like, so how do you keep people's head in the game and and and sort of, like,
- 8:56honor your furloughed employees, but understand that, you know, obviously decisions had to be
- 9:02made to keep the business going.
- 9:04How do you manage that?
- 9:05Yes.
- 9:06So one of the things that we like to talk about is that every organization needs to have a
- 9:11people plan to begin with.
- 9:13An effective people plan includes a talent acquisition plan, and that plan is really
- 9:18keeping a short list of the types of roles and positions that an organization needs, what are
- 9:23the soft skills, hard skills, and when are you gonna need people on the team?
- 9:27And so when you have furloughed employees, that means you have people that you've already made
- 9:31a decision about in the past that still have their same skills, still have their same
- 9:36capabilities, There is no reason why those relationships cannot be maintained.
- 9:41I think wisdom for leaders is to contact them, let the relationships stay fresh.
- 9:48It's unfortunate that many have had to be furloughed, but what prevents them from coming
- 9:53back should the opportunity make sense for the organization?
- 9:57And then for those that are on the team that still have their job, you know, survivor's
- 10:02guilt is a real thing, but I would say to cultivate a a culture of gratitude and and and
- 10:08and and just reflectiveness as well to say, you know, we are We are really in hard times here
- 10:13to be able to limit with employees that maybe are concerned about the loss of you know,
- 10:19employment for their friends and colleagues, but then also to say, you know, we're we're
- 10:23grateful that we can still do this.
- 10:25And you know, we all have networks and so one of the other things that we can do is is to
- 10:31keep people top of mind again.
- 10:33So whether that's helping them to stay on the radar for an opportunity within and or
- 10:38opportunities without.
- 10:40I think that just because someone transitions off doesn't mean that we have to lose the value
- 10:45of of team and mutual support.
- 10:47How important is it?
- 10:48And this is my last question for the business owner to help everyone sort of, like, focus on
- 10:54future opportunities for the company.
- 10:57You know?
- 10:57And I think we've gotta be thinking now about what are our customers gonna need 2 years from
- 11:02now, not just what they need right now.
- 11:04Right?
- 11:04Yes.
- 11:05So for all of the organizations that were winging it pre COVID nineteen, This is
- 11:10definitely the time to stop and get back to strategic planning.
- 11:14So, of course, we don't know what the landscape gonna look like, you know, 12 months from now.
- 11:19We don't know what it's gonna look like 6 months from now, but effective strategic
- 11:23planning will at least ask questions around what are our strengths, what are our
- 11:26weaknesses, what are our opportunities, what are our threats, and what is it that we need to
- 11:31be working on so that we are aligned and able to take advantage of opportunities where we are
- 11:38able to then also strengthen our weaknesses and leverage our strengths for for all of that.
- 11:43So I think it's important to stop and ask those questions to have the those discussions with
- 11:49our teams and with our leadership so that the team is ready and can be nimble and be able to
- 11:54be responsive to the opportunities at hand.
- 11:58Oh, I'm sorry.
- 11:59Go ahead.
- 12:00Oh, I was just gonna say without having those conversations, people are are kind of lost.
- 12:05Like, it's already externally disorienting.
- 12:08And then it would be internally confusing about where we're going without having those
- 12:12conversations.
- 12:13Well, thank you so much, Lori, for that sage wisdom.
- 12:16I think you've given all
- 12:17of us some kernels of things to think about as we think about our current organization,
- 12:22retooling our organization, and being ready for the future of work.
- 12:26That's for sure.
- 12:27Tell us what is your favorite podcast?
- 12:30That's what I wanna know.
- 12:32Alright, Laurie.
- 12:32What's your favorite podcast?
- 12:34I love lead stories with Joe Saxon and Stephanie Bryan.
- 12:38I really love those stories that they share and principles they share about leadership.
- 12:43And so while it's not directly correlated to the type of work that we do with the COO team,
- 12:49I love that they are women leaders and they are so inspiring and always just giving great
- 12:55nuggets for how to stay focused as a leader and effective as a leader.
- 12:58I love it.
- 12:59I love it.
- 13:00Laurie, what's your favorite business app?
- 13:01I think my favorite business app is Canva.
- 13:04I love recommending it to my clients and it has really been a game changer, you know, pre
- 13:10Canva, anytime you had to make a flyer in a in a jiffy you were doing things with Microsoft
- 13:16Word and those were horrible.
- 13:17You know that those lines are horrible.
- 13:19But now with Canva, everybody love.
- 13:21Fantastic.
- 13:22Your brand can be consistent, which is very important for communications.
- 13:26So that gets my vote.
- 13:27Good stuff.
- 13:28Good stuff.
- 13:29How do you stay motivated?
- 13:30What motivates you in your business?
- 13:32What is your secret thing that you do to just like, alright.
- 13:36Let's let's go.
- 13:38Like, how do you get there.
- 13:40Yes.
- 13:40So I I really am inwardly motivated.
- 13:43I remember my calling, and I know that my purpose is to help individuals and
- 13:48organizations fulfill their purpose.
- 13:49That is my call in the life.
- 13:51I'm known as this middle school.
- 13:52And so when I think about the fact that the leaders that I serve and the organizations that
- 13:57they are leading are doing great work, it motivates me to equip them to build capacity.
- 14:02Strategic capacity, operational alignment, and people capacity.
- 14:07And when I do that, when I think about that, I'm like, yes, let's go.
- 14:11Let's have that meeting Let's pull out the spreadsheet.
- 14:13Let's do the plan because we know that there's impact when people's lives will be changed
- 14:18because of the work that I do.
- 14:20And you know that you are a process engineer talking about take the spreadsheet out.
- 14:24Alright.
- 14:24Laurie, what's your favorite business book?
- 14:26Alright.
- 14:27This is tough because I've got to that tie, I'm just gonna jump out there with one of them.
- 14:31What it's called necessary endings by Henry Cloud.
- 14:34And so The thing that I love about it is not exactly a business book, but it talks about how
- 14:40in life things have to come to an end in order to have a new beginning.
- 14:44And so since we work with visionary leaders that are so excited and they're so eager, they
- 14:49jump in headfirst and don't often think about the operational pieces.
- 14:54They can often take on a lot of things, and what we like to let them know is less is more.
- 15:00In cutting back and bringing certain things to it in, it gives an opportunity for resources
- 15:05and energy to go to what can be more fruitful and what can last and what can be more
- 15:09sustainable.
- 15:10So I like that the framework of the book just really challenges our presuppositions as well
- 15:16as our tendency to hold on much longer than we should.
- 15:19And so I think that there's freedom in releasing and things so that other more
- 15:23productive and efficient and effective things can emerge, forward.
- 15:28Well, that was a great explanation of that, but you make me wanna go read it and Certainly, I
- 15:33wanna share with you my favorite business book is the e myth revisited by Michael Gerber.
- 15:37I read it a lot of years ago, and it changed my life.
- 15:40And so That is my favorite business book.
- 15:43And with that, I want to thank my awesome guest.
- 15:46Thank you all so much for joining me tonight.
- 15:48Please head over to succeed as your own boss dotcom, and you get more information about my 3
- 15:53guests.
- 15:54And I wanna leave you with this.
- 15:57Thank you so much for watching small business chat live.
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- 16:05You never lose in business, either you win or you learn.
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