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Ian Furness 10/12 H2: Hardcore Football with Hugh Millen · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: Seahawks Niners battled out at Lumen Field yesterday. Seahawks lost.
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  Speaker 2: LSU somehow stays in. They drop 12 spots to number
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  Speaker 2: 22 after a loss at Kentucky. Texas drops six spots
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  Speaker 2: after a loss on Saturday as well to Oklahoma in
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  Speaker 2: a stunner along the way. UCLA is number 12 in
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  Speaker 2: the country. That's the good news. The bad news is
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  Speaker 2: their starting quarterback, Nico Iamaleava, is out most likely.
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  Speaker 3: For the season.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big blow for that team, which has kind
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  Speaker 2: of been one of the big surprises, good surprises in
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  Speaker 2: college football this season. And just just in, Kirby Moore
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  Speaker 2: finally did it.
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  Speaker 3: Thank God.
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  Speaker 2: Owen Eshelman will start at quarterback for Wazoo against Oregon State.
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  Speaker 2: He just announced that a couple seconds ago. That means that,
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  Speaker 2: at least for now, we don't have to deal with
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  Speaker 2: watching Caden Pinnock again and his bad attitude and his
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  Speaker 2: bad play. All right, let's go. Hardcore football.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go. Your home for the 12th man in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL proudly presents Hardcore Football with Hugh Millen.
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  Speaker 1: Now here's Hugh with Ian Furness on Sports Radio 93.3
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  Speaker 2: Hardcore Football with Hugh Millen. He's with us right now.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure he was on the morning show today, I assume,
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  Speaker 2: and I think probably doing a little more at four
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  Speaker 2: with Softie today. We are putting him to work, and
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  Speaker 2: you've got to work hard because you've got to break
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  Speaker 2: down what just happened yesterday, my friend. How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm kind of salty. Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I don't blame you. Everybody's salty right now, aren't they?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes. Kind of the last weekend in a way,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, I think yesterday was particularly maddening.
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  Speaker 2: It was... I mentioned, you know, most of us, we
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  Speaker 2: can't even enjoy the Ducks losing because, you know, everyone
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  Speaker 2: else lost this weekend. I mean, Seahawks lose, Huskies lose,
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  Speaker 2: Cougs lose, Ducks lose. I guess Beaver fans might be happy.
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  Speaker 2: UCLA wins, their quarterback's out for the year, so they
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  Speaker 2: lose too. I mean, everyone's losing. But let's get to
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  Speaker 2: some Seahawks conversation. We just heard Mike McDonald's news conference, Hugh,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll get into the specifics. And coming up, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, in the next segment, I want you to,
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  Speaker 2: we got a little clip from Greg Cosell, your friend
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  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell, who I know you have great respect for.
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  Speaker 2: and he talked about Josh Jobe and Mike Evans in
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  Speaker 2: that matchup on Friday when we did the preview. Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald addressed it a minute ago because Mike Evans kind
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  Speaker 2: of went off a little bit on Josh Jobe, and
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  Speaker 2: we'll get to that in the second segment, but I
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  Speaker 2: want to get to the offense first. He mentioned, McDonald did, that, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's very similar in terms of turnovers to
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  Speaker 2: where we were last year, and he's right. Last year
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  Speaker 2: at this point through five games, they had eight turnovers, Hugh.
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  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold had three interceptions, and they had lost five fumbles.
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  Speaker 2: This year through five games. They have nine turnovers, so
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  Speaker 2: one more. But Darnold has five interceptions. There's four fumbles,
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  Speaker 2: so there's one more. But Darnold obviously has played a
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  Speaker 2: lot less football through five games than he did a
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  Speaker 2: year ago. Let's get into specifics hardcore in a minute,
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  Speaker 2: but just in general sense, what do your eyes tell
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  Speaker 2: you about the turnover issues right now?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'll start with the running game and the running
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  Speaker 3: backs in the two just immensely costly fumbles. Kenneth Walker,
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  Speaker 3: in his career to date has 1,148 carries and touches.
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  Speaker 3: That's 1,093 rush attempts and then another 155 catches. He
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  Speaker 3: has never lost a fumble. So now Seattle has 139
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  Speaker 3: rush attempts this year and they are fumbling one in
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  Speaker 3: every 35. I can't give you canines number because he
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  Speaker 3: can't divide by zero.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So all I can tell you is he's zero for 1148.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, so I would just start there. Um,
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  Speaker 3: I would, I would, uh, I would also say, let
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  Speaker 3: me just finish up or add something on the, the
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  Speaker 3: running backs, the wide zone that Seattle wants to major
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  Speaker 3: in schematically, uh, Yesterday, 10 rushes, 21 yards, and exactly
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  Speaker 3: 20 success rates. So two out of 10, and we
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  Speaker 3: know the success rate formula, 40% of the first down yards, 60%
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  Speaker 3: of the needed second down yards, and all the needed
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  Speaker 3: third and fourth down. And so that's the formula for that.
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  Speaker 3: And when they go wide on all runs, the wide
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  Speaker 3: zone may end up wide and may go back up,
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  Speaker 3: but when they've done pin and poles and whatever, To
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  Speaker 3: get outside yesterday, in totality, their widest runs, 10 carries,
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  Speaker 3: 32 yards. So you're 3.2. But in the A and
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  Speaker 3: B gap, going right up Broadway, your 9 carries for
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  Speaker 3: 30 yards. Off tackle, your 4 carries for 10 yards, 2.5.
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  Speaker 3: So really, wherever you were, you're not being productive. But
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  Speaker 3: you're particularly not making the wide zone work. and you're
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  Speaker 3: laying the ball on the ground. And I would just
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  Speaker 3: conclude without having seen all other 31 teams, I can't
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  Speaker 3: believe that an objective analysis analysis wouldn't put Seattle right
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  Speaker 3: now as the, the worst running back room in, in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: It's an interesting dynamic because, and this is why we
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  Speaker 2: do hardcore football. They're, they're, Per game average, Hugh, the
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  Speaker 2: per game average is seven yards less per game running
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  Speaker 2: the football than it was a year ago at this time.
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  Speaker 2: And just if you kind of look back, Charbonnet a
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  Speaker 2: year ago was averaging less than three yards a carry.
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  Speaker 2: K-9 was at 4.9. But this year, it looks so different.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's part of because what you just said.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing, too, is just to reference last year,
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  Speaker 2: the turnovers they had, the fumbles that they had lost
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  Speaker 2: a year ago, only one at this point of the
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  Speaker 2: five was by a running back.
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  Speaker 3: It was Helani.
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  Speaker 2: This year, all four fumbles lost are by running backs. Helani, Wilson,
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  Speaker 2: and Price.
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  Speaker 3: And Price. Right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so you've got to hold on to the football, Hugh.
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  Speaker 2: But the other part, as you mentioned, and let's just
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  Speaker 2: go back to what they want to do. If the
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  Speaker 2: raw numbers aren't that much different, the effectiveness must be, correct? Correct.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, and I think from a standpoint of the
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  Speaker 3: play action, if you have somebody who has a turbo
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  Speaker 3: button standing in the dot, and the dot is the
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  Speaker 3: term behind the quarterback for running back on those one-back sets,
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  Speaker 3: if that dude behind the dot has the turbo button,
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  Speaker 3: then now the defense has to flow harder. Jadarian Price,
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  Speaker 3: he's averaging 4.6 yards. yards per carry on the wide zone.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good sign. That tells you that help is
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  Speaker 3: in sight, and I'm not just citing the statistic. Our
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  Speaker 3: eyes have told you that he has a burst there,
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  Speaker 3: and that when he sees that he thinks there's an
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  Speaker 3: opportunity to capture the edge... and hook the end man
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  Speaker 3: on the line of scrimmage so that the running back
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  Speaker 3: can get outside of that block. When he sees that, man,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he goes. I mean, he's like an electric
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  Speaker 3: car if you've been in one of those fancy Teslas
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. It throws your head back, right? And so
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  Speaker 3: I think that that's good, but you know what? He
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  Speaker 3: had the third highest fumble rate in the draft class.
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  Speaker 3: So it was a bit of a concern coming into
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  Speaker 3: his career. And then now he's forfeited it twice. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we're not going to give up on him, obviously. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's too talented and you paid a first round draft
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  Speaker 3: pick and, and, and away you go, but you just
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  Speaker 3: hope that he can learn the art of, of securing
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  Speaker 3: the football. But yesterday that garbage that happened in the
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  Speaker 3: second quarter, I I'm sure Mike McDonald said, well, what
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  Speaker 3: are we, the New York jets, the Cleveland Browns? Yep. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Like that's, That's playing football at the worst level you
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  Speaker 3: possibly can. And there's so much bad going on there.
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  Speaker 3: You'd like to have your right guard help the center
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  Speaker 3: because at that juncture, all you want to do is
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  Speaker 3: prevent penetration. Now, I think that they should have ran
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  Speaker 3: inside zone because the blocks are more straight ahead and
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  Speaker 3: you're less likely to get penetration. I'm sure Kiefer would
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  Speaker 3: concur with that.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: And so to me, it's, Hey, run three inside zones
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  Speaker 3: and get the hell out of there. Yeah. Um, I
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  Speaker 3: understand why they didn't want to punt. Um, they probably,
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  Speaker 3: you know, if, if you run, uh, three inside zones,
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  Speaker 3: you're probably, um, you know, you probably average four seconds and,
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  Speaker 3: I understand they didn't want to punt out of the
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  Speaker 3: end zone because you know that goofy rule, the fair
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  Speaker 3: catch free field goal rule? Yes. It's the weirdest rule.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and if you catch the ball at the 40
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  Speaker 2: or 45, it's a makeable field goal in today's NFL, right?
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  Speaker 3: And for those who are scratching their head going, what
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  Speaker 3: the heck is that? If you fair catch a punt
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  Speaker 3: at any time on the field, if you want, you
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  Speaker 3: can elect the next play To be a a field
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  Speaker 3: goal attempt and you get to do it without a
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  Speaker 3: a field goal block.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So the defense sets aside and the offense, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're just looking like it's, you know, special team practice
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  Speaker 3: and training camp. They get to take as much time
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  Speaker 3: as they want. They spot the ball, and you don't
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  Speaker 3: snap the ball there.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: You spot the ball there. Yep. So you're gaining eight yards,
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  Speaker 3: and then you can kick a field goal. It's the
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  Speaker 3: damnedest rule. I'm not going to give any more details.
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  Speaker 3: If you're really curious, just Google it. I mean, how
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  Speaker 3: often do we ever think about that rule? But it
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  Speaker 3: crossed my mind because I've seen it. I knew it
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  Speaker 3: was in the rule book having been a holder in
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  Speaker 3: special teams and we talk about it, but then I've
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  Speaker 3: seen it on Monday Night Football. It's happened. And so
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  Speaker 3: I get the urgency to not want to punt out
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  Speaker 3: of your end zone in that circumstance. But, man, running
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  Speaker 3: that wide zone and then– and in all zone blocking,
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  Speaker 3: there's an idea that you double team at the defensive
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  Speaker 3: line level and then eventually based on the flow– of
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  Speaker 3: the linebackers, then eventually a double team, you know, if
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  Speaker 3: you and I are double team, I was going to say,
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  Speaker 3: there might be a drop here, but if you and
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  Speaker 3: I are double teaming Ashley, Ashley, are you right? Are you,
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  Speaker 3: are you being a good sport here?
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  Speaker 2: Always.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: As Bob Roberts would say, be a good sport, always
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  Speaker 2: be a good sport, be a good sport, always.
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  Speaker 3: All right, well, be a good sport, always, Ashley. So
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  Speaker 3: if Ian and I are double teaming you, our four
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  Speaker 3: eyes are to the next level. You know, let's say
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  Speaker 3: Jackson's the linebacker. We're looking and seeing a flow. But
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  Speaker 3: first of all, we have to make sure Ashley, that
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  Speaker 3: you don't penetrate. Oh, boy. Here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, this is really taking a turn.
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  Speaker 3: Really taking a turn. Yeah, and for a midday show,
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  Speaker 3: no less. But there's an important sequencing about the priority.
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  Speaker 3: It's like when you're down in your goal line, whatever
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  Speaker 3: you thought the sequence was and the concern about the linebacker. Now,
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  Speaker 3: if the linebacker wants to shoot a gap, obviously you've
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  Speaker 3: got to protect that. But as far as a linebacker flowing–
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  Speaker 3: that has a lower priority than initial defensive line penetration.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that when Mike McDonald steps to the
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  Speaker 3: podium there in the postgame and he says, we have
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  Speaker 3: to execute better in the run game, that's what he means.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it looked like man blocking. It looked like
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  Speaker 3: it was just Jalen Sandell, you got the nose tackle
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  Speaker 3: and Christian Haynes, you're going to go run off to
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  Speaker 3: linebacker without even helping. And so it's just very poor defense.
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  Speaker 3: poorly blocked. I think it's a bad call. I think
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  Speaker 3: in inside zone would have, uh, more than halved your, uh,
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  Speaker 3: opportunity for that to have happened. Maybe, you know, cut
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  Speaker 3: it by, uh, you know, a quarter, uh, and, and,
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  Speaker 3: and that would have been the safest play. And, um,
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  Speaker 3: and then you survive and take it to the locker room. But, but, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's angry, you know, I'll just conclude and
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  Speaker 3: If you look at where the 49ers were at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the third quarter, I mean, they had 159
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  Speaker 3: total yards. Yep. Brock Purdy had a 68 passer rating.
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  Speaker 3: Let me say that again. Through three quarters. Yes. The
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  Speaker 3: defense was stoning the 49ers again. Yes. And what really
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  Speaker 3: angers me is Kyle Shanahan and his genius offense– And
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  Speaker 3: Brock Purdy and his, you know, first quarter MVP status,
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  Speaker 3: they should have been over there like in a state
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  Speaker 3: of shock and awe about, oh, my God, this is
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  Speaker 3: happening again. There should have been a zero up there.
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  Speaker 3: And they're sitting there like the CF defense earned that right.
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  Speaker 3: And yet they could look up and go, hey, we
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  Speaker 3: got 21 points. And then they score one measly touchdown,
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  Speaker 3: and they damn near got 30 at that time. Now
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  Speaker 3: they're at 29 points. Mike McDonald has said, hey, we
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  Speaker 3: want to squeeze you like a boa constrictor. The defense
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  Speaker 3: never got to enjoy the fruits of that squeeze, the
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  Speaker 3: results of that squeeze, because the energy changed. Now, as
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  Speaker 3: it turns out, we'll never know because I think the
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  Speaker 3: 49ers had 122 yards in the fourth quarter, I believe.
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  Speaker 3: So just multiply that by four. So whatever happened in
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  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, after the interception, Purdy, or let me
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  Speaker 3: say before, before Purdy's interception, his passer rating and including that,
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  Speaker 3: It was a 57.6. From that point on, he goes
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  Speaker 3: 10 for 11. Hunter's opened up for the 49ers. In
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  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, the 49ers played great offense. Mike Evans
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  Speaker 3: was unstoppable. And your defense couldn't stop a nosebleed. But
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  Speaker 3: all of that, the table was set by the offense
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  Speaker 3: and their damn turnovers. And so when I say it's angry,
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  Speaker 3: and it is angry, I can't wait for Tuesday because
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to have to put myself in a fan
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  Speaker 3: 24-hour rule.
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  Speaker 2: To Hugh's point, at halftime, the 49ers had 126 yards
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  Speaker 2: of offense. Purdy had thrown for 81 yards.
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  Speaker 3: McCaffrey had run for 34.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. But they had 21 on the board because
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  Speaker 2: of the turnovers that Hugh just mentioned, all 21 coming
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  Speaker 2: off the turnovers. At that point, let me take an
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  Speaker 2: early break here because I want to come back. Two
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  Speaker 2: more things I want to get to. The passing game
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  Speaker 2: and Sam Darnold-Hugh. We'll get to QB1 on that and
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  Speaker 2: ask about a couple of the interceptions. I'm really curious
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  Speaker 2: about the one that he was throwing to Arroyo because
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  Speaker 2: we've talked about those types of plays before. I'm wondering
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  Speaker 2: if the route was too flat, if we've talked about that.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that in the next segment. And then
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  Speaker 2: the last segment, we'll get a little bit into the,
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  Speaker 2: you just mentioned it, Mike Evans game. and what that
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  Speaker 2: offense got going. We'll talk about all that. So we'll
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  Speaker 2: get all that in in the final 40 minutes with
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  Speaker 2: Hugh Millen next. A lot of JSN run after the
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  Speaker 2: catch and two interceptions this season. It has been a
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  Speaker 2: struggle for Sam Darnold overall. There's no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 2: Since coming back from an injury, he has thrown this year.
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  Speaker 2: seven touchdowns, and has been intercepted five times. Not all
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  Speaker 2: interceptions are created equal. Not all are on the quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes they're on the route. Sometimes that's why we have
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  Speaker 2: hardcore football. I specifically am just curious about the one
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  Speaker 2: that he threw is targeting Arroyo, who has one catch
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  Speaker 2: all year. That's a whole different set of circumstances. But
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  Speaker 2: on that particular one, what did you see?
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  Speaker 3: On Arroyo, he is running a deep over route. And
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  Speaker 3: that that's just a, you know, you have crossing routes
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  Speaker 3: and you have what's called a shallow cross. And that's
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  Speaker 3: going to generally be, let's say a Royal lines up
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  Speaker 3: on the right. We see this from wide receivers, tight ends.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if it's, it's approximately five yards or left,
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  Speaker 3: we call that a shallow cross. If we're in the
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  Speaker 3: 10 to 12 yard range, most people call that an
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  Speaker 3: over route, not to be confused with an over front.
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  Speaker 3: Those are totally different, but the over route. And then,
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  Speaker 3: and then when you get the deep over, or the
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: deep angle cross, as some of the West Coast guys
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: call it. Some people call it a race route, but
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: it's a deep crossing route. And what I didn't like
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: about it, Ian, is that the Seahawks, they did it
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: from a two-by-two formation ultimately after the motion. And there's
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: two tight ends to Darnold's right. And you have Arroyo
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: as the wing. Uh, and in essence, in that defense,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: when you have a zone coverage, that's the 49ers are
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: playing a three deep foreigner zone. Then Arroyo is number one. Well,
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: the corner on that side then is gonna, is gonna
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: run with them. And so they're, they're playing zone with the,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: the shallow guys, but one of the weaknesses of cover three,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: is is the deep crossing route because the backside hook defender.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: So if I'm Sam Darnold, I'm looking at the underneath
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: coverage like a baseball infield. I've got. Arroyo over by
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: first base, he's going to run a route over to
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: left center. Got me? Left center field into that gap. Now, obviously,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: the scale is different, but I'm just trying to create
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: an image for you. The weakness of that defense is
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: that the shortstop, who's usually a hook zone defender, a
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: linebacker type, he has to be the one that gets
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: underneath that. So what defenses have done is they said, hey–
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: if number one runs that deep angle cross corner, you
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: chase him. Everybody else is playing zone. And so if
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: they had run that same concept, let's say the wing
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: and the tight end did the exact same thing, but
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: structurally they put a wide receiver out at Z to
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: have the corner cover him. Now Arroyo would just be
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: beating a zone coverage and getting into that same window.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: It would be identical in terms of how he spreads
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: the window, and yet he wouldn't have a corner chasing him.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: And so when you're Darnold, you come back, and Arroyo,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: one thing he did is he stuck the route where
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: your angle... Okay, I think if we're going to graduate
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: to the next level of hardcore football, we should understand
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: the following terms. When we talk about a receiver's going
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: to the post. We have to know the difference between
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: a skinny angle and a flat angle because on slant
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: routes and post routes and these deep crossing routes, that's
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: the terminology.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: You know, obviously you can say, keep it thin, but,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: but skinny means it's closer to going on a go route. Like, yeah,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: you're breaking towards the middle, but you're barely breaking. It's
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: almost like a go route, right? That's a skinny angle.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: When you do a flat angle, uh, That's more like
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: an in-breaking route where you would go parallel to the
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. Okay, so the closer you get to
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: parallel to the line of scrimmage, that's a flat angle.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: The closer you get to perpendicular to the line of scrimmage,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: that's a skinny angle. Got me? So the way you
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: would teach this is, Arroyo, you take, hey, initially take
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: a skinny angle.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: And then there's a point where you stick the route
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: and you get a little bit flatter. And that helps
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: in man coverage because the defender is mirroring the initial
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: skinny angle. Then when you break it flat, he has
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: to respond as he's running full speed. Just neurologically, you
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: can't entirely mirror immediately. So there's a little moment where
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: you get separation. And so we saw that. He did
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: the best he could, but he's a cornerback. As fast
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: as Arroyo is, the corner's faster. Right, right.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I'm watching it right now, yeah. I'm watching Enzo copy, yeah.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: So he's racing to get underneath it, and there's one
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: of two ways you've got to beat the corner. So
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: this is a speed mismatch, right, in terms of San
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Francisco with the corner. So now you say, okay, well,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: what does Arroyo has? He has a size mismatch. So
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: you're going to take advantage of that one of two ways.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: You either tell Arroyo to go flatter so you cut
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: off so that the corner doesn't undercut the route. Right. Or,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: and I asked Darnold in the postgame, you know, hey,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: was there any confusion about the route angle? Like, were
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: you expecting Arroyo to go flatter so you could just
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: stick it on it, meaning do a line drive and
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: then Arroyo, by going flatter, would shield the defender. Does
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: that make sense?
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And Darnold said, Nope, we had talked this week
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: that we want to take the high angle. So they
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: were trying to get the bigger play. When you choose
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: to take that higher angle, it's a more difficult throw,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: but it's a higher, a higher chance for a really
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: big play. So that's what the, that's the trade-off. That's
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: what they had decided. And Darnold to his credit said,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: I just did, I needed to throw it with more
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: touch over the top.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: But that is a big ask.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Well, even if he throws it over the top, there's
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: a safety's coming down, too.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Safety's coming. Yeah.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: There's a safety right there. That thing had no chance
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: at all, did it?
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if it was just lofted 10 degrees more,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, the precision that you're asking, and you raise
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: an excellent point. I've watched the tape. I thought about, hey,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: is a corner or a safety going to come out
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: of the roof if he puts more loft on the ball?
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: And the answer is there's a concern there. So I'm
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: just telling you that the degree of difficulty that he's
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: attempting on that throw is extremely high.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I just froze it. Even if he does what you
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: said and touch a little touch over the corner, the
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: safety is right there. like the locks in the porch
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: like you've you i don't know maybe a tony gonzalez
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: and his prime can go up and beat two guys
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: maybe i don't.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Know look if we went through the entire history or
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: just this century history of of of the throws on
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: that particular route like like it gets completed but i'm
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: just telling you it's a very difficult.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Was he late at all in the throw hugh Um,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: maybe a tad separation. There's separation as, you know, as
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: he's throwing their separation, but like, but again, that's, again,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: we're talking about precision. That's just, yeah.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the, one of the hardest things
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: in my opinion, um, when you've got zone coverage and
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: you're running crossing routes, that means your, your, your target
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: is going just through window after window after window. And, and,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: And so you got to– it's not just, okay, is
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: my timing beating the corner who's trailing the play? It's, okay,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: does that sync out with where the windows are in
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: the underneath four guys, right? And so when you just
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: add up all the factors, as we've acknowledged, Goldilocks and
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: the Ports, you can't throw it on a line drive,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: which he did, But you can't put too much touch
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: on it because then the safety is going to come
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: down and make a play. So it's got to be
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: the exquisite right amount of trajectory. You know, you could
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: almost just say, well, that was first and 10, right? Yep.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: You know, just it's not worth it. I think it's
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: second and eight. Is it second and eight maybe?
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Second and eight. Oh, no, you're right. It was second
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: and eight. It was second and eight. I'm sorry. It
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: was second and eight. You know, there again, the burden
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: of the running game.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: You know, putting you in a situation undoubtedly– Um, and
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: by the way, how bad were the Seahawks on first down?
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Oh God.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Running the ball. How many times do we face second
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: and eight and second and nine? And so, yeah, it
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: was second eight. And so, so now he probably feels
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a need to, you know, to
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: go big game hunting a little bit down the field. And, and, uh,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: you know, I, I'm not going to absolve him. You
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: would still put a double minus on his sheet because
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: you're a professional quarterback. You can't, throw that interception. Simple
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: as that. But, um, but I would, I would also
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: say to Brian Flory, like, why, why can't we meet
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: in trips? Right wing, have a Z out there and
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: hold the court. And then now we're just, we're just, uh, we're,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: we're going to still unlikely and all likely to get
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: that cover three. And then we, we just have, we
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: just have to worry about Arroyo, you know, getting through
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: the zone. Yep. And, um, as opposed to getting through
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: the zone and, and beating a corner. I don't know.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I hope we've described it well enough to say that's
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: a really hard damn play for an, even for a
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: top flight NFL quarterback.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I just, I'm just, I mean, watch it again, guys.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: It's just, it's the, I don't know.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: It's just, yeah.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Like I think Hugh did a great job of explaining
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: just the concepts and what it would have taken to
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: make it happen. It's just, it's all right. Let me
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: do this. We'll get a quick break. Come back. I, I,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Job jail was anything but that. The jail was open.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: You could just leave freely yesterday, if you like, if
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: your name was Mike Evans. Get out of jail free card.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: We'll touch in on that when we come back.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Because Evans is their boundary X. Job's the boundary corner
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: for Seattle. And he's a very good player. But every
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: once in a while, he'll get beat. You know, that's safe.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: It's the NFL.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: Corners get beat. You know, it's the way it works.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: But that's a matchup to look at. You know, that
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: will happen in the game. Evans versus Job, one-on-one. And
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: as we know, Purdy is better than ever, believe it
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: or not. A friend of mine who works for NextGen
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: sent me a whole bunch of stats about Purdy throwing
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: the ball between the numbers. It's the best he's ever been. So,
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: you know, he is really, really good doing that. Obviously,
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks will know that. And they know that that's
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: a major foundation of the 49ers pass game. And, you know,
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: you have to defend that because Purdy's going to throw,
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: you know, Purdy in his own way, And by the way,
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: I'm so tired of the word system quarterback, but Purdy
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: in his own way has a little bit of a
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: gunslinger attitude.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: He's going to turn it loose now.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: He is not afraid to make tough throws into tight windows.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: I'm assuming you're talking about with number five yesterday. I
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: can tell you there's reasons why we were in certain
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: coverages when he did catch the ball. Sometimes you're right
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: on why you're in those coverages, and sometimes you're not.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: When you double a guy, it takes away from other areas.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: And just because he catches the ball doesn't mean that
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: you don't have two people allocated to him. So I
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: understand it's probably frustrating to see that, and it's... Frankly,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: it's a fair criticism.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: That's Mike McDonald. Before that, Greg Cosell talking about the
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Job Evans matchup yesterday, which Evans, seven catches on 10 targets,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: 113 yards, and a touchdown. As far as other receivers,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Debo Samuel, sort of a receiver, had two catches for 21.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks won for seven. That, of course, was the
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: touchdown plus a two-point conversion. Hugh, a lot of people
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: screaming and yelling. The question was asked to Mike McDonald today,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: why did Job not get help against Mike Evans? That's
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: just not what they do, right?
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. They're capable of double-teaming him. It's just the resources
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: you want to give. Double-teaming doesn't necessarily mean everybody's going
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: to play man-to-man, but Instead of having a low hole player,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: we'll have a post safety, and then the low hole
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: player will have two guys on Mike Evans. Now, there's
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: a bracketing, and teams will do that, but the Seahawks
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: going into the game were number one in the NFL
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: in use of zone, just under 91%, highest rate of zone,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: which I always respect. Teams, I'm not fond of one
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: or the other, but teams that do play that much
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: zone and play it well, it takes more cohesion. And
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: you have to be tied to the string better. If
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: you're just playing man-to-man, obviously everybody has to win or
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: not get beat in man-to-man. But the one way when
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: he's the outside receiver now of his seven catches, he
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: was in the slot for two of them. He was
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: the outside receiver. So you can you can roll the
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: coverage and roll is a term, a specific term that
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: speaks to zone coverage. That is different than press. Now,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: if you're at the game, sometimes it can be hard
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: to discern between press coverage, which is a synonym for man-to-man.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Press is a man term. Roll is a zone term.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: When you roll the coverage, that's a corner down and
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: the safety over the top. And that would be a
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: way that you double cover in zones. And they did that,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: and there's still routes that a slant, for example, still
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: can beat that. When he was in the slot, he
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: had a bender in between the two safeties for 15 yards.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: He had an in-breaking route on a dagger for 23 yards.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: So again, his in-breaking routes, he had five. His out-breaking
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: routes was one, and his vertical routes was one of
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: his seven catches. So So it mirrors with Brock Purdy's strength,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: which is between the numbers on Friday. I was saying, hey,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: if you take Matthew Stafford's 30 or 50 best plays,
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: there's going to be a big portion of them are
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: going to be in the middle, and there's going to
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: be a big portion to the sideline, deep outs and
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: corner outs, and he's just rocketing the ball to the outside.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: With Brock Purdy, his best plays are almost all between
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: the numbers, all over the middle of the field. And
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: so now they bring in a big body and, and
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: then there's, they're able to align him to the outside
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: and break him into the middle of the field. And
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: he's just got a high IQ, you know, he's, he's
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: JSN like in terms of his understanding of zone and
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: how to sit down and, and what have you. I
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: think that he's one of the best pickups in all
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: of the off season. That was an incredibly great acquisition.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, you take Mike Evans off the 49ers yesterday. I,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: I'll take it to my grave. Seattle wins that game. Oh, yeah, 100%.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Which is not a profound statement. I think we all
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: observe that. So I don't want to make like I
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: found some lock to some key. It was very evident
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: to all of us. I mean, he's sensational. But I'm
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: trying to take Purdy's. Purdy has physical shortcomings. He does
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: not throw the ball hard.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: But he moves around. There's some elements of his game
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: in terms of awareness that somewhat resemble Pat Mahomes. Pat
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Mahomes only ran a 4.8 at the combine. He's not
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: a blazer, but he's just very adept at how to use.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: He's wiggly and what have you. I'm not going to
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: say Purdy's at the level of Mahomes, but I think
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: stylistically some of Purdy's game is like Mahomes. Now, Mahomes
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: has a hand cannon. and a vastly stronger arm, but
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Purdy is, is better at anticipation. Want to know why?
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Cause he has to be because he doesn't have the velocity. And,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: and so nobody is as good or better than Brock Purdy.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Brock Purdy is number one in the NFL in anticipation.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: And he sees those windows. He throws it early despite
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: his lollipop arm. And he creates a lot of plays
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: and he, and, And you know what? Emotionally, if he
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: did a Myers-Briggs or whatever, to the extent that the
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: NFL tried to scout his personality, I mean, I guess
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: they got it wrong because he was the Mr. Irrelevant.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: But at some point, maybe it could have been discovered, hey,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: this guy has guts. Kyle Shanahan has stood at a
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: press box. You can YouTube it. And when asked about Purdy,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: he has said, look, I do not want a game manager.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: If he was a game manager, then he's not my quarterback.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: I want a guy that has the guts to throw
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: the ball down the field. Remember now, he replaced Trey Lance.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: The 49ers spent three number ones to get a guy
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: that has all the physical traits, 6'4, can run like
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: the wind, strong arm, what have you. And so now
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: you can't have a more disparate physical group than him.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, hell, even Rourke. Curtis Rourke, their third stringer
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: who dressed the, it was so funny watching them in
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: warmups because you had the left to right. You had
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: the number one quarterback in Purdy. And then you had
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Mack Jones, um, net five yards away from him and
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: then Rourke and, and, you know, just watching him like,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: like Purdy was the smallest and the weakest arm. And then,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: and then Mack Jones was noticeably taller and a stronger
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: arm than that. And then Curtis Rook was noticeably taller
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: and a stronger arm than him. And if you were,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: if you just, if I just dropped you from a
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: helicopter and he said, Hey, Hey, those are lined up
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: in order from one to three. Well, you know, if
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: you woke up from a coma and you didn't know
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Brock Purdy, you said, well, you'd say the guy on
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: the right is the number one. And the guy in
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: the middle is the number two. And the guy on
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: the left is the number three. Well, it would have
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: been asked backwards. You know, it would have, it was
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: three to one, not one, two, three. So, so, um, So, yes,
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Mike Evans' ability. Now, the one time, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: I've said it many times, I wouldn't trade Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 3: for any coach in the NFL. I love the guy.
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  Speaker 3: I love his personality. I love his vision of football.
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  Speaker 3: I love how he teaches. I love how he knows exactly,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: you know, like Einstein said, you know, be as complicated
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  Speaker 3: as you need to be and know more. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I could go on and on, and I think that
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  Speaker 3: most of our listeners share that opinion. But I did
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: not like that third down. And, oh, gosh, do you
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  Speaker 3: have it? What was the completion up the sideline against
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  Speaker 3: Job to Mike Evans?
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  Speaker 2: Well, there was like multiple.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's why we're discussing it. Don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 3: In general, what is it? 28 yards. Okay. 28 yards.
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  Speaker 3: I know it was a long yardage situation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, because they had the penalty, right? Or the sack?
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  Speaker 3: Was it the sack? Yeah. And I was just like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: please cloud this guy. Because you could just see Purdy
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  Speaker 3: was just heating up. I mean, here Purdy, did we
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  Speaker 3: say it earlier? His passer rating had been down at 58,
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  Speaker 3: under 58 at the pick. And then from that point,
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  Speaker 3: he was 138 passer rating. He was really heating up.
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  Speaker 3: And the pressure rating, and this was significant, prior to
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  Speaker 3: the interception– the Seahawks had pressure on Purdy at 52.4%
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  Speaker 3: of his dropbacks. After that, they were at 15.4%. They
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  Speaker 3: went from better than one out of two to one
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  Speaker 3: out of seven. So Seattle, they're a little bit long
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  Speaker 3: in the tooth. Some of the defensive linemen, the Jaron Reeds,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: the Leonard Williams, the Nwosus, the DeMarcus Lawrence, the Fowlers.
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  Speaker 3: you know, look, I'm, I'm searching for answers and I'm
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: wondering like, are these old guys getting tired in the
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  Speaker 3: fourth quarter? Cause this is not the first time we've
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  Speaker 3: seen this. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, would it be nice to have a
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  Speaker 3: young boy mafia coming off the edge, you know, just a,
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  Speaker 3: a pass rush specialist on third down, you know, just
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  Speaker 3: a young dude, just with his ass on fire, you know, like, like,
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  Speaker 3: like I feel like maybe they're missing that one guy
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  Speaker 3: with some juice off the edge. Uh, but this, you know, to,
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  Speaker 3: to watch that pass rush, uh, diminish the way it
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  Speaker 3: did again, not the first time. Uh, so you're, you've
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  Speaker 3: got a, a heating up Brock Purdy. You got his
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  Speaker 3: cohesion with Mike Evans. is, you know, it's like next
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  Speaker 3: level right now. And then we decide not to cloud him. And, and,
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  Speaker 3: and we, you know, it's credit the 49ers. They go
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  Speaker 3: trips left to the field. They put him on the boundary,
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  Speaker 3: Mike Evans on the boundary. And Job had defended that
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  Speaker 3: well in the first quarter. But now they're heating up.
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  Speaker 3: It's like the two-guard that clanked it off the rim
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  Speaker 3: in the first quarter, and now he's hitting nothing but net.
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  Speaker 3: And so you better decide how you can defend the
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: guy because he's hot. And that's what happened. And, man,
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  Speaker 3: that pissed me off. Yeah. To let yourself out of
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  Speaker 3: that situation.
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  Speaker 2: I'm visualizing that play again. Yeah, I think they were
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  Speaker 2: in a great situation at that point. And then, boom,
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  Speaker 2: right down that sideline. All right. More for today with Softee.
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  Speaker 2: Is that right?
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: It is, yes. More at four, I believe so, yes.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Seahawks and maybe a little Huskies mixed in. It sounds
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: like DeMond did not practice today, and we'll see what
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: happens on Friday against Purdue, which just beat the team
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: that beat you here in Minnesota the other day. So
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: lots going on in the world of college football, NFL football,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: and so much more. Hugh, thanks, as always. Great stuff.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you bet.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: That's Hugh Millen. Great stuff, as always, with Hugh Millen.
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  Speaker 2: We'll take a break. Mike Sando from The Athletic, his
• 40:43
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