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Cyril's AGT Act & Oz Pearlman blowing Rogan's Mind #220 · The Magic Guys

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look guys yeah this is the magic guy show the
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podcast where we interview wonderful guests we talk about our lives as professional
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magicians talk about topical events which we'll bring up in a second and this
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is episode 220 now we do this live so that we can get your immediate feedback
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throughout the episode and it helps with our actual content and our stream of thoughts.
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And Nick, who we got in the chat today? I can see some- Thank you for joining us in the chat, guys.
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We have Thomas Conger, Dragoteer, Tim Askin, and questions.
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We have Gutbuster, Mike Gerhan. Guys, thank you all for being here.
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There is a very, it's been a very lit conversation before the show even started
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about, let's just jump straight into it. Let's just talk about it. We need to talk.
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Hell yeah. Cyril was on America's Got Talent. Nick, Doug, did you guys watch the clip?
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How did you see it first? Did you see it on Instagram first or the full clip on YouTube?
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I was watching just the show, and I heard he was on there and got buzzered by Mel.
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I just heard someone mention it. And so when the wife said, hey,
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do you want to watch AGT tonight? I said, for sure, I want to see this segment.
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So we watched the whole show. What a train wreck of a show. My first question
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is, the clip that we see on YouTube, is that the same as what they aired on TV?
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I didn't do my homework and review the YouTube clip having done due diligence
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and watched the damn show, man. And I don't know what they showed on YouTube.
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Okay. Okay. Well, fair enough. Well, look, there might be somebody in the chat
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that could help answer that question, but I think that let's just sort of go through what we know.
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And if it needs to be corrected guys in the chat who have seen either the live
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broadcast or the YouTube clip, please correct us.
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Now, from what I saw, there was the four judges and the amazing magician,
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Cyril, who's like the only person with an eyebrow ring that I like.
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And so he gets up on just everyone with an eyebrow ring, such a douche but he's
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the coolest i actually met him in vegas and he was so nice so polite and like.
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It's so weird it's kind of like when he's like oh hi i'm cyril
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like i know the i know who you are it's like having it's
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like having like bruce springsteen shake your hand like it's like the weirdest thing
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so anyway we're we're watching
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this act in which he brings up one of the judges how he
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gets up on stage and then he has this really
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just little cool moments in which he
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has some chopsticks that he like removes from
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a packet and then they split in half without they removed
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themselves let's get it right yes that's right it's a pique touch well i did
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say without even touching it oh i didn't hear that i was sometimes i don't pay
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attention to your words let me finish and so and so he does that there's a really
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cool effect in which a card is signed.
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And basically does like a card grab where the
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cards are dribbled to the floor which from a card which is signed by how he's
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selected and rather than and we've
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seen this before in fact josh and i have an amazing effect where we had
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a card chosen at random he just reached in and plucked out the selected playing
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card however cyril's version was insane
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insane deeply insane because he did
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it with chopsticks an assigned card an
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assigned card while being blindfolded thank
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you while being blindfolded so really really
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impressive stuff it blew people's minds
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at that point in the act the entire theater was like on its feet giving him
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a wonderful ovation at which point he leans forward into howie and he says you
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want to see one more and that didn't really translate to the rest of the audience
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so he kept performing and in this process,
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the judges were having this notion that it was kind of being dragged out and
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were like, man, and like, you lost me. You lost me after a little bit.
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This is where we should, what we need to talk about.
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Okay. We need to talk about this. So just to be clear. So like they got bored
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of, they got bored about it. And just to wrap it up real quick so we can discuss this.
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He then takes the playing card, gets having to hold up like a,
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effectively it looks like a chopping board, a circular chopping board.
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He then like throws the cards, throws the chopstick and it pierced,
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the card and landed into the into the
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board like one of those really cool i think
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it was in like the long kiss good night where gina davis like threw
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a tomato in the air and then she throws a knife and then it
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hit the knife and goes into the wall and she's like a yeah normally it's like
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a super impressive archery trick shot which let's be clear it is a super impressive
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archery trick shot one of the badass card tricks i've ever seen this this hard
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trick was on freaking believable It's a fine card pierced to the thing with a chopstick.
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And it resulted in a second ovation standing ovation. Yeah.
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But they were stood their ground and were like, this got boring and you lost me.
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Freaking three minutes. I can't hang. Look at three minutes of magic on stage.
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And I'm sorry, but after catching cards with chopsticks, I lost interest. What?
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Yeah so this is so the reason we
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and the reason we bring it up on the pod is because there's such
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a so i've i've been seeing comments around on
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all sort like saying he's amazing and then
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some magicians that don't quite see the angle agt is going for saying like ah
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that's a great lesson in timing you know some people like questioning cyril's
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you know showmanship and then other people like that was amazing and so it's
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all like it's so such an array of feedback from, from the performance,
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which to be honest, I think at the end of the day is what they were going for.
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Like, I think they weren't able.
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Okay. So hang on, let me start from the beginning.
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Cause this is everyone's, you know, it's great seeing people in the comments
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as well about different things.
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Firstly, you know, AGT, like we've always had our views about AGT from the beginning, right?
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It's a great place to elevate your perception and
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maybe like the corporate market and things like that but it's
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not necessarily the place where like you can
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showcase a work of art and it be properly
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appreciated like it would be at like a fringe show or something right
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well just to be clear that is not the forum for that as well
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so let's just 100 percent yeah that is
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something we can all kind of agree upon moving forward yeah 100
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so when i first saw the clip i only saw the instagram
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version which just shows the first sequence right
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of the card drop and the card
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stab sorry the card catch so they only showed
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that so they only show the amazing first ovation and then it ends as if that's
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the end then on youtube i saw oh there's like a five minute version of it amazing
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and i saw the pk touch you know uh moving with the shadow using the shadow of his hand to.
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Them amazing. Let's not gloss over the self-separating chopsticks.
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That was a highlight of this. The chopsticks just break on their...
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I'm so fooled. Yeah. They snap, which like, looks like a lot of tension was
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needed, which then, you know, cancels out any methods of, of,
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you know, thread or things that like we might use for other moving stuff.
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I don't agree. I agree with all that. And I think that ultimately when you,
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you've got to play devil's advocate and you've got to try appreciate the judge's
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perspective at this point, because it's the type of thing where,
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when I'm trying to understand the arguments and see everyone's point of view,
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which is what I think you should do in a situation like this,
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not to talk on it as an authority, but just for the sake of discussion.
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So my notion is that, you know, like the magic realm, like the where from,
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and we can all agree, like we love Cyril and anyone who's watched his specials
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in the past, you know, phenomenal.
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Like the ones that he performs in his native tongue, where you don't even like
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understand what he's saying, but you're watching what's happening where he's
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pulling necklaces out of fish tanks and things like that. Like that is just...
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You know what everyone knows like he used to pull hamburgers out
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of walls and stuff like that was that stuff
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was like 15 years ago right like when i when i first started like getting into
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magic and i've loved that level of creativity ever since but because of that
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mindset the magicians have where it's like do you even know that guy is that
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guy's like one of the greatest he's like a blah blah he's like he's like i don't
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know like you would probably give him status like Like, you know,
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like there's how like each continent has its own kind of copper field.
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You know what I mean? Like Louis de Martos takes care of like that part of the world.
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I think Cyril takes care, takes part of that part of the world,
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right? Like, like all of Japan and all that sort of area.
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You know what I mean? Like he's, he's that guy. He's like one of the elders
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in a sense. You know what I mean? Like one of the greats.
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Yeah. Legacy. Yeah.
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Perfectly said. But moving forward with this, I just want to say that like, that can't be.
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The thing that we all just have to like drop out drop out
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but the people producing this
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show must know that this guy is a freaking megastar
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you get serial on agt they have to know
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and i would tell the judges so this
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is like i don't think the judges knew i don't
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think the judges knew this and you're gonna i'm just
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gonna leave your the hand of your show and the the
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the outcome of your show in the hands of those nincompoops sitting
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out behind those buzzers i'm thinking that
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they didn't and i'm thinking that a lot of the audience the
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american audience even given the age range
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a lot of them would never even know or hear who cyril
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is yeah but the judges would is what i'm saying you know
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i'm saying the producers know and they they probably tell
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the judges and whether the audience does knows or not is kind of irrelevant
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to like buzzing cyril in the middle of his act you're not giving him the full
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three minutes or four minutes whatever so if i may this is this is my whole
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like questioning so the agt world you know they're very.
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Specific in how they put out their edits to perceive different characters to
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create the show right so what what you're both saying is correct i don't i don't
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think all the judges knew,
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about cyril when he was coming on i know simon definitely
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did but the other ones may not have
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but they always give them notes about like feel free to like heckle this guy
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he's very good with combating that or like feel free to react really crazily
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or feel free to you know want to inspect the thing like they do give them subtle
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notes especially like i mean they did in australia's got talent.
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Like they literally said to me, oh, when you go up to Manu, would you like him
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to be more playful and like physical with you? I'm like, yes.
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So they literally gave him that note.
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So what it makes me think is...
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Because what's not matching up here is you don't give someone a standing ovation
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and 20 seconds of applause and then not want to see one more.
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Even if you didn't know he said, I want to see one more, that's what doesn't match.
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Like I can understand if you just were really politely applauding and then he
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tried to do more, then you might be like, okay, I've had enough.
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But if you're standing up and the crowd's going crazy, like you don't buzz him
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for wanting to keep going.
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Maybe it wasn't articulated that there was one more to
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follow you know what i mean because i feel that like that wasn't really like
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i think that he probably should have stopped at that moment and said to the audience
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blah blah blah presentation presentation then
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done one more i think that like you like if
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i have to lean into what the judges might have felt we've
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just got to take a quick moment and a and and just like
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discuss whether or not the pacing was correct whether or not
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for sure here's a here's the thought along those
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lines because i questioned myself after the buzzing and
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i'm wondering if i could have made the choice to stop my
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performance at that moment you know after the chopstick
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catch and you get the standing no and everyone's going crazy despite
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what i'd planned could i have the the foresight to
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say okay this is good enough let me rest on my laurels with
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this set and not do the other piece save it
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up yeah the producers knew the act he
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was going to do right even if the judges didn't so
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they like they brought cyril because they
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wanted cyril right they've gone through all the acts where they've tried to
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make someone a star or whatever they wanted someone now you know 20 seasons
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later that already is amazing that hasn't been in the mainstream in the u.s
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so they knew the act he was going to do but here's what i think the whole.
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I think this is all a bit of bullshit. I think they purposefully edited it in
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a way that makes it seem like he's like the underdog.
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Because at the end of the day, he did get three yeses. Like Mel B still gave him a yes.
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Simon Cowell said, you know, we've had amazing magic this season and it just
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might not have been as good.
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But he's still got three yeses, which means they can still put him through.
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Can't believe he said that.
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He said that. He said, I've seen some card tricks this season,
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but maybe better than this one what and
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i i subtly think that is so his fans
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get behind him when he does the next round like
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i think they're playing us if i could be
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totally wrong and he might not be on again but i think they're playing
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us by saying that specifically because once simon buzz then that's only when
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the other two fell suit and we're like oh yeah it is taking a while you know
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and as if cyril's not going to have something freaking amazing for the second
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round So as if they're not, the producers aren't going to want him on again.
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So I think it was strategic because I still let him through.
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And I reached out to Cyril and because I made a video reacting to his performance
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and he sent me a DM and, and, and was very grateful that he's been getting so
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much love just in general from everyone.
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And I, I did ask him like, Hey, are there any behind the scenes you can give me?
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And I understand if you can't about what happened. And he basically said that
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because the auditions are still running, he can't share anything that might
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conflict with how the AGT wants their audience to see things right now.
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So that literally tells me, I think, that, you know, they're wanting us to see
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it like that right now because...
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Maybe they want him to be the underdog and that makes the next thing he does,
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you know, the peak and valley of reactions.
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Yeah, maybe the draw card. Like, I mean, some people are brought in as a draw
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card to try and draw an audience in.
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I don't know. Like, I know that Cyril is great.
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I don't know how many people follow him. Like, what I mean by that is that people
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talk about Blaine all the time, nonstop, as far as a TV personality goes.
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People talk about dynamo all the time as far as a personality goes.
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Cyril's stuff i think crushes theirs like when you watch cyril's stuff that
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he actually does like in his specials i think it crush i i like his like it
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i think you could almost argue that it's,
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better to some degree or it's different but it's equally as awesome like it's
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right up there at like the tv magic one could possibly watch completely okay
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but does anyone ever say you know, Cyril?
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Oh, what's that guy's name? You know, the one with the eyebrow ring?
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Like, no, no, when he was putting out the material, I do recall my family members
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sending me his clips on the internet, you know, before social media was cool.
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I was getting Cyril clips in my inbox from family members and people that don't do magic.
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Right. So he was mainstream at the time. I think maybe just not the last decade.
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Yeah. I think that checks out. I remember getting sent the card through fish
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tank in the restaurant a lot back in the day before maybe before when YouTube
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was yeah in its infant stage man that was a good one the hamburger production
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from the menus and the baguettes I got those in the emails and stuff,
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I mean, and even his, his card magic, like the Hershey's kiss became a thing
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that everyone did, even though it wasn't a marketed effect, you know,
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the girl blowing a kiss to the deck and then the Hershey's kiss pictures on the back of the card,
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flips it over, pops out a real Hershey's kiss.
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I did that when I started doing corporate gigs. I was like, this is awesome.
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Healed and sealed. I think for a long time was, was that, that was his effect for a long time, right?
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Before he before people started putting it
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out or at least a consultant made it for his special in the beginning yeah
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that's interesting a lot of people have sort of like i was responsible for it
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but then i think that the person reclaimed it was like wayne houchen right and
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released it through 311 so and then even even the the the bloody cup the water
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vanishing over the head like he put that that out in his special and only just
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for the first time and because he mentioned it in his lecture.
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His penguin lecture that they filmed at Magic Live, the first time he explains
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what the actual liquid is in the can that's not Coke because Coke won't absorb
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into the stuff that's in the cup.
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So it's the first time we're actually hearing him explain the method.
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And then at the end of it, when he finishes the tutorial for how he does his vanishing liquid,
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he's like, all right so now you can you can finally you
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know have the rights to do it all
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instead of me getting messages about can i perform this you
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know and that was from his special so like we even do stuff that we don't even
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realize is from cyril so so good so yeah he's kind of having like a rebirth
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in the in the english speaking market because it's not on tv like his shows
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aren't played on tv and stuff yeah like if there was a tour if there was a tour that had like him.
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Blaine dynamo and like oh my god darren brown
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like that would be that would be
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thousand dollar tickets you know what i mean now that's the illusionist
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that we want to see like the illusionist yeah like that
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would be off the chain that would be a whole different you'd have
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to go to a different planet to watch the show so so i think
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that like given the discussions what i'm hearing is that like who he is how
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he creates you know and i don't even know what his team would be like i don't
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know if he has that kind of you know like garcia and everyone else's sort of
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team whatever i i wonder if he has a team or not he must right but like erroneous of that like,
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We can all agree that his magic and his creativity, second to none.
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Okay. Like comparatively.
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Yeah. From what I know, like all the greats, like Garcia, all of those guys did consult for him.
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Even Dan Harlan, when he interviewed him in his lecture, was talking about reminiscing
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of different projects of his TV shows that he consulted for.
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And now from memory, when he did his most recent lecture, he had a few guys
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in the background of the lecture that he would refer to as his consultants like he's on tour guys,
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and a little tip he mentioned was like he doesn't
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hold his team responsible for any gimmicks malfunctioning
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because he makes it a point to make his own
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gimmicks that he's about to use on stage so that if it
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fails or something it's on him it's
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not on them so like he's healed and sealed and all that kind of stuff he
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will make himself so no one is responsible for
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you know getting the blame interesting i
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like it yeah so if we circle back to the routine in
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question as we've been talking about this for 20 minutes right.
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Which is great because it does it does need to be spoken about i
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do think that like the
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whatever the audience slash judges
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experienced and their reactions to it there is
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a cause and effect and i think it's understandable and i
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think it's almost fair that they understood that
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it was being drawn out as
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far as their perception of it because what was communicated
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with the do you want to see one more wasn't probably communicated in
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the biggest and clearest way sure hindsight is
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that bitch we can all agree
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with that but if it was going to
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be something that that was going to continue to
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that i was gonna say fourth phase but it's actually quite
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longer i say why not why not
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like it could have been averted with another bit
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like another sort of a phase where you just could have said like deadly whatever
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like i don't know like i'm jazzing it right now but i feel if you gave it a
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franz harare you're like you want to see one more because he was kind of like
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yeah yeah yeah it's kind of cash yeah Yeah.
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Yeah and i think that's where like we've we kind of need to know i mean like
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we love cyril we're going to support him regardless i'm going to support him
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100 right i've always adored what he does but like was the pay like can we give
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him the benefit of a doubt and say,
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pacing wasn't perfect you know
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we can talk about and compare briefly did you see the clown act
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the the scary clown illusion act
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that was on agt no cyril's taking
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all my brain space oh let me tell you this is a highlight i
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thought it was a great act it was uh they come out they're scary
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clowns bloody eyes and they're horrible you
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know horrible clowns they start with hook the fish
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hook in the mouth trick but it's attached to helium balloon
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so they're picking balloons and that's a great bit
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and then this is the segue thing they go into a
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stage illusions from hook three in
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a row bang bang other scary clowns come out
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it's just a great set that i think gives a
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good contrast of how you could have multiple effects in
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one segment that need a good segue
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from like he did hook at the judges table and
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then more clowns appeared and they moved it to the stage for.
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The second part and if you haven't seen that set wow
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go look at it it's you know it's hard to bring boxes on
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stage in a modern time and make them seem period
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appropriate but these clowns are able
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to do that i think you know they really worked in the
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props in a natural way yeah yeah
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yeah so that it's and that's the thing right and what's kind
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of interesting is that when you look at magicians in the past i remember there
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was a guy in the uk who would like forget his name entirely but he was just
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performing like marketed effects you know he was like i'll get an invisible
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deck and this i'll do a routine where they both go together and i'll win and
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it's like he's the guy simon thought did better card tricks than Cyril. It was that guy.
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Yeah. And I think that like, I don't disagree with like it entirely, but I do take issue with,
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But when I kind of create, it's with respect to the magic community,
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and I do things that are original and that are mine.
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And that's because I like having a voice. I like writing my own songs,
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as I used to play in a band.
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So I kind of think it's important to, like, I represent myself in that way.
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Now, if you are going to be, if you're going to be someone who just does marketed
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effects, there's nothing wrong with that.
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There's nothing wrong with being a cover band. Be very clear about that,
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but you're not going to be someone who's going to get paid to go across the
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pond to lecture and go, tell us about all the marketed effects that you do.
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Okay. But Cyril will lecture with his beautiful creativity and his gnarliness.
24:44
I will lecture with my gnarliness. You know what I mean?
24:48
I think that's, that's what's good about magic and elevating it forward.
24:51
And I think celebrating those guys on the TV show is great, but if they're not
24:55
going to be on the show, folks who buy marketed effects are going to do great.
25:00
Yeah that's how it'll be true you know yeah i
25:03
mean look is this a good time to switch to
25:06
bloody oz perlman taking over the world right now
25:09
as well let's switch gears yeah let's switch gears okay so yeah last note with
25:15
cyril if we just say one little sentence to sum it up mine would be i think
25:21
they purposely influenced the way we have just wanted to talk about this clip
25:26
because i think there's more coming,
25:28
but I don't know and we'll see. And I'm excited.
25:30
And that's kind of my thoughts. I think it's good for him either way. What do you think, Nick?
25:35
I think that, yeah, even though there might have been merit for their reaction.
25:41
I feel like this is only going to solidify people getting around Cyril.
25:46
And I think that our listeners, if you are a fan and you do love what he does,
25:50
and I think that we all do, do get around him, do support him. I certainly would.
25:55
And it's only going to be like, I'm so excited to see what else he's going to
26:00
bring to the table. So he has my full support. Yeah.
26:04
Agreed. Yeah. I agree with that, man. You know, I can't wait to see what Cyril
26:07
brings to the table. And then also the judges are idiots.
26:11
That's all I understand about that. Excellent.
26:14
The whole show's a train wreck, truthfully. I've put it in the last three years.
26:17
I can barely stand to put it on, but they keep putting on pretty decent magicians.
26:22
Yeah, they do. Man, the trash we're opening the shows with this season,
26:25
oh my God. It's like they're picking fart humor over actual talent most of the time.
26:30
I guess that stuff charts well on the ratings or something, and that's what
26:35
dumb America wants to see. people doing, you know, ass jokes or something instead
26:40
of actually having a talent.
26:42
Yeah. All right.
26:44
I'm the old grumpy, get off my yard with your non-talented non-talent.
26:52
Yeah. So to start off with Oz Perlman, our buddy Christopher Wayne. What's up, Chris?
26:58
Currently, he's in the chat, currently being a rock star in New York with his
27:03
hit show, the naked magicians that just got extended to keep going in the US.
27:08
It's amazing. And we're never going to see him back here in Australia because they just want him.
27:14
Great point. So Chris says, Hey guys, you're the best podcast in the world. Oh, thank you.
27:18
The thing that blows my mind about Oz is he is quite generic.
27:22
He is a traditional looking white guy that wears, you know, black or black and white suit.
27:29
He isn't like a heartthrob or traditionally hilarious guy. His magic is just
27:34
so strong at speaking for itself, and we have seen the same with Dan White as well.
27:40
Good insights, Chris. He is a bit of a phenomenon, right?
27:43
And there's so much to unpack, but the reason we're bringing him up is he was
27:48
just on Joe Rogan's podcast, one of the biggest podcasts in the world.
27:52
And then he was on Flagrant, which is another podcast I listen to,
27:57
comedy podcast, but also ranked super high, millions of views.
28:02
All the clips have now been individually clipped up. He essentially went on
28:05
and did like a two hour magic show,
28:08
mentalism show have you guys watched it first any of them or any of the clips
28:12
or oh i i did listen to the the rogan podcast one like really thoroughly because i was like,
28:19
renovating my home at the time doing the last of it and so yeah
28:23
it it's it's interesting doug yourself are
28:26
you around any of this it's on my radar i listened
28:29
to the rogan podcast i knew those was on i didn't know
28:31
we'd be talking about them tonight but yeah i will listen to it
28:34
i look forward to hearing about you know the event
28:37
here though yeah i think i actually shared it in our
28:40
group chat between the three of us yeah that's right that's how i found out
28:46
about it because because nick mentioned it and i was like holy crap one of our
28:49
i was out drinking last night y'all were doing show development i'm like i'll
28:55
read that tomorrow and i never did yeah so.
29:00
To synopsisize on the Rogan. So I, he went on Rogan first and the,
29:05
what was interesting was he was an actual, he actually had interesting stuff to stay,
29:09
say before any magic happened that related to Joe in that he literally ran a marathon that day.
29:15
I didn't know. I mean, I learned a lot about Oz. I didn't know he was a super
29:19
marathon runner and in one has won multiple, he won back to back two separate
29:24
marathons over a weekend.
29:26
And, um, actually. Yeah. And so to
29:30
jump they jump straight into all that stuff first and he's
29:33
like Oz's friends with David Goggins and
29:36
all these like people that Joe's familiar with so like they build
29:39
common ground really quick and then it switched
29:42
to a weird gear which is then
29:45
Oz went into mentalism which you're like all right
29:48
here we go but Joe Rogan was really hesitant to
29:52
go with what he's saying like he wouldn't he would he would
29:55
combat what he's saying like no I didn't I wasn't thinking that
29:58
you know i don't know what i don't want to say it
30:01
you know why would i he was trying to guess his pin code and
30:03
he's like why would i and he's like so what is for the first time what is
30:06
your pin code he's like well why would i say it on air i'm not going to say
30:09
it he's like all right let me write it down for
30:12
you like i won't show anyone is this correct and
30:15
joe's like yeah it is that is true that
30:18
is my pin code but no i don't know if i believe
30:21
it because that pin code got sent to me in the
30:23
mail from the bank yeah and
30:27
i was just like well if you think i have the the the
30:30
status to be able to infiltrate your mail from the
30:33
bank then you know we have more things to discuss
30:36
here and i was like it was really great to
30:38
see like someone be the most heckly they could
30:41
in the nicest way and then just get
30:44
destroyed and by the end of the podcast like so many things
30:47
kept happening and just and by the end joe's like
30:50
you're a fucking alien man yeah yeah.
30:53
If you haven't listened to it i really suggest you
30:56
do because it's quite a long one i think it's over two hours.
30:59
And what was really impressive about it is it was effectively.
31:02
Like which i've experienced on a regular basis it was one of those situations
31:06
where people are constantly like do this try that no let's do it this way can
31:10
you and like it was it was that kind of experience where he was constantly being.
31:15
Challenged in certain ways and oz was taking it and flipping it and and producing,
31:22
really good effects out of it you know and he had multiple ways this could go,
31:27
you know rogan didn't sort of like try to control the narrative and
31:30
try to push him into a point of failure but he was sort of
31:33
just testing the grounds and and i was just going like
31:36
yeah okay let's let's try this if you want to do it that way well let's try
31:39
this way if you want to do it that way okay let's do it this way but this like
31:43
he was in such control of the situation and it was quite interesting and nice
31:48
to watch and it's rare to see that at that level so the only thing that i found um,
31:56
outside of that and i want to put this towards you guys well especially
31:59
you josh who actually did listen to it you know
32:02
when some people talk about the skill
32:05
set they have and how they do it i like where you're
32:08
going with this yeah it was a type of thing where
32:11
you know some people have that notion like where
32:14
they believe their own bullshit a little bit right like oz
32:18
was on the borderline of that in
32:21
the way he explains what he does i didn't like
32:25
he took it to a point that i didn't he didn't go over the
32:28
line and be like god you're a douche it was a bit
32:30
much i was like please don't let this rest of this.
32:33
Podcast be you bullshitting joe like yeah you
32:36
know like in a sense yeah i mean we're talking
32:39
about that level of yuri gala you know and bending
32:43
and being like oh because you know like yuri gala got paid like
32:46
thousands of dollars to like fly over australia had to help
32:49
find oil and stuff like that you know or find gold like it
32:51
was like a dumb dumb thing and for him to even accept
32:54
that like morally is so wrong right i don't
32:57
think i was took it to that level but it
33:01
was interesting when people explain what they do in that sense you
33:04
know is he portraying himself as an actual mentalist and not
33:07
just an entertainer like i just have a big brain
33:10
and this is what i do with it yeah yeah and
33:13
i see everything like this i see you
33:16
know he had that kind of like energy about or it's like yeah you see
33:19
this but i actually see that blah blah blah and let me give you an example yeah
33:22
he says um he basically he comes on saying like
33:25
first of all i'm not psychic i don't read
33:28
minds i read people and that's his narrative but then he really he sort of hammed
33:34
it up a little bit like you know the way you look around the room and you know
33:38
i'm i'm you know i'm so well versed in how the body language and you know he
33:43
went into that kind of thing but like just Just a little too much,
33:46
I guess, because Joe was like really pressing him for answers.
33:50
So like, he can't be like, I peaked it or I, whatever, like,
33:54
you know, he has to say something, but it was a lot of, it was like a lot of it.
34:00
I guess it's, it's tricky to be a mentalist. Like how much do you give up?
34:04
You know, how much do you say is not the real deal?
34:09
Yeah that's right but it was
34:11
amazing like it's the bit like i can't imagine
34:14
how many like how full his
34:18
calendar is now that he's just gone and no doubt
34:20
you're set well let
34:25
me say this are one yeah i.
34:28
I think i think that the most impressive
34:31
thing i've ever seen him do is that one where he's
34:34
like it looks like it's almost like a lecture theater at a university and
34:38
he's got all these football players in there and he gives one
34:40
a ball and he basically just says like you throw it to anyone
34:43
you want and i will predict who you're going to throw
34:46
it to and then he does that and then he does
34:49
it again and i think he does it a third time where the guy
34:52
fake throws to one person but then actually
34:54
throws to another and he predicted the fake throw and
34:57
it's just so deeply impressive that that even
35:01
even if you know how it's done okay which i
35:04
don't but even if you did know like thinking of
35:08
that as an effect is so genius and i
35:11
gotta give him full credit for that full credit like that
35:14
it's that's i think is that's one of
35:17
his actual superpowers is he thinks like okay mentalism
35:20
is really just think of something and
35:23
let me tell you what it is but he's found such unique ways
35:26
to to you know make it
35:29
relevant to the audience like with rogan's podcast
35:33
and that clip you're talking about like he said
35:36
he that's what he does he spends ages thinking about.
35:39
What this the sentences they want people to be telling everyone about the act
35:45
like what is the end result and then how do i make the method to make that moment
35:51
i want people to talk about it's pretty interesting question to you guys because
35:56
i've known o's from like the.
35:59
Do you find it hard to make the disconnect from the guy who wears braces,
36:04
teaching card tricks on old school penguin tutorials versus the superstar he is now?
36:12
Yes. He was on AGT a few years ago.
36:16
I remember that was the first time I'd seen non-penguin uh-ohs, you know?
36:20
I remember born to perform circa 2003.
36:24
But that's how long he's been in the game, right? 20 years of professional experience.
36:28
So you get pretty pretty good in that time but yeah and then
36:31
he shows up on agt 20 years later killing it
36:34
like yeah and here's
36:38
the thing like it really it was the
36:40
right time for him to go on rogan like had he done
36:43
agt and then on straight on rogan he may not have
36:46
been able to handle rogan as well like the fact
36:49
that he's had a 20-year career of combating every single
36:53
mofo about stuff about how he does it heckling
36:56
him combating him he's like seen it
36:59
all and it's like the perfect time instead of a newbie just
37:03
doing well on a show or a vile clip and then trying to like if you watch banachek's
37:08
interview on rogan it's a very different experience for anyone who's seen it
37:13
like banachek great magic love his work he's very used to magicians receiving him when they perform.
37:21
But Rogan was exactly like he was to Oz, but Banachek was a little less ready for it, I think. So...
37:29
Yeah, Oz did great. And then, so then, because Oz did so great,
37:33
the clips did so well, the flagrant podcast, which is run by Andrew Schultz,
37:38
amazing comedy, you know, world touring guy, Netflix special,
37:41
all that stuff. I'd love his work forever.
37:43
He invited him onto their podcast and he just does just crazy stuff, crazy, crazy stuff.
37:50
And there's an end effect he does, which you guys should look up and watch,
37:54
where it's like four freaking effects in one.
37:57
Like it's like one effect but like so many
38:00
different things happen and i'm not
38:03
i've never seen that accumulation of like effects to get to the ending he gets
38:08
to anywhere i know that doesn't really explain a lot i mean i guess i could
38:14
just say what the routine is if you guys haven't seen it and this is not helping
38:17
i haven't seen the one on the schultz i did see it on my on my phone but
38:22
I don't recall it like very well. So please.
38:25
Yeah, gotcha. So there's like heaps of crazy stuff throughout it.
38:30
I mean, one of the things that's really great is he's like, I asked your team
38:33
to get me some books. Do you have them?
38:35
And then when people question, where did the books come from?
38:39
He's like, wait, wait, wait, let's not, I don't even want to do the routine
38:42
yet if you don't think these are your books.
38:44
Like tell, you know, to his, the podcast producer, like tell them where you got the books from.
38:49
These are not mine, right? He's like, yeah, we just got them.
38:51
One of them's even not even available yet because it's a pre-release book we
38:56
were given from one of our guests so he's like he like really makes sure that the listener knows.
39:02
Like everything is like the heart the most difficult for him to now.
39:06
You know, continue with. But anyway, the last effect he does,
39:09
he, he gets one of them on the podcast to imagine they're walking through a
39:14
grocery store and they're just going to grab an item like a,
39:18
like a convenience store,
39:19
just grab an item.
39:21
And then he asked the, the other three hosts to imagine they have a letter from
39:26
a Scrabble board in their pocket.
39:29
Take out the Scrabble letter. It's not going to be a vowel, but imagine you just see a letter.
39:35
Okay. Then he has a bag. It's like, and I've got this bag.
39:39
So he goes to the person, what item did you grab from the convenience store?
39:47
And she goes, I grabbed, he's like, you grabbed a beverage, didn't you? She's like, yeah, I did.
39:51
It's like, what drink did you grab? And she's like, I grabbed a Fanta.
39:54
He's like wow and then he's like to the other three guys so did you pick F N and T and they're like no.
40:03
And he goes to Andrew if you look at the three letters that you guys picked,
40:08
if you added vowels to it could you make a word he's like yeah he's like what
40:13
word is it and he's like I could make the word lager as in beer.
40:16
Anyway he pulls out Fanta out of this bag that he's had in full view.
40:20
Then he does a magic trick and he opens up the can of Fanta pulls out
40:24
lager right gets Andrew to taste it and
40:28
then dissects the words like
40:32
all the letters that have just been said and if you take Fanta and
40:35
you take L-R-G it spells flagrant and
40:38
he writes it on the board like takes the separate words and
40:41
everything like that and and the guys are
40:44
backtracking themselves they're like why the
40:47
hell did you choose to see the word L and and like
40:50
they're really trying to and they have and they fooled themselves
40:53
by thinking about it more and more but it's
40:56
like those effects separately are good
40:59
like imagine you have a scrabble piece and you look at
41:01
it what is it like that itself is an effect you know
41:04
guessing that she picked a random item out of hundreds
41:08
of items is a great effect changing it into
41:11
a different drink is a great effect but then like
41:14
and but then also revealing the name
41:17
without doing a you know like we would all normally do a
41:19
toxic force or something to reveal a word or whatever cryptic text
41:23
but like to use that to create like it
41:26
was just it was too much for them and they were like how the
41:29
hell like there was so many like what the f's so now i i imagine now i already
41:35
now i'm just speculating but i believe because oz has had such a long career
41:42
i'm pretty sure his fee to book him for a show is six figures.
41:46
It's a six-figured fee. Wow.
41:48
Before he went on Rogan. So imagine what it is now.
41:53
Imagine what it is now and the demand that it is now.
41:57
You're suggesting he commands 100,000 plus to appear at your event? 100%.
42:06
I yeah he flies around i understand your statement yeah no 100 he flies around the world.
42:13
Constantly for massive corporate events
42:16
and a dance group of mine that did
42:19
really well on australian tv over here they
42:23
did a gig with oz once like this is probably eight years
42:27
ago now they did a gig with oz on this island this
42:30
dance team that done really well on australia's got talent are
42:34
gigging with him and they were chatting with Oz
42:36
after the event and they just all felt like they all
42:39
felt like shit they're like oh my god we're out
42:42
here dividing this particular fee between eight
42:45
of us and Oz is doing his own thing and he's
42:48
commanding such a large fee and we're like fuck we need
42:51
to we need to like up our game we need to
42:53
add magic into our act we need to like really up it
42:56
here and they were so like dumbfounded how
42:59
one person could walk up and command such a
43:02
fee and then fucking leave back to america they
43:05
flew him from america to come do like he's doing
43:08
mentalism too so he's like working out of his pockets yeah
43:11
yeah exactly exactly and so that's still like a huge fee like i'm i'm trying
43:18
to think of who is paying that fee not too many people well i mean even yeah
43:24
i mean the other guys are just up there as well like for corporate gigs Like I remember.
43:28
I only say this because it was told to me from someone who booked David Blaine,
43:33
but a guy booked David Blaine for their big insurance company Christmas party.
43:38
It was like 250 US dollars for 250,000 US dollars for him to do a show like a corporate stage show.
43:47
Now I can see Blaine commanding that kind of cash, but.
43:51
Yeah i think we could also appreciate that for that price point they're not
43:56
rocking up with three half dollars and the invisible deck yeah that's true like
44:02
they have the blames fasting for a week and he's got his his team and his giant you know water,
44:10
submersion and yeah you know i you know but all of us have experienced the level
44:15
of like customization we've had to bring to to an event you know and that's
44:19
a privilege they've had to pay for, you know, like people go,
44:21
oh, we want this or, you know, I've done gigs where it's like, oh, I want the.
44:25
Girls 21st because i want to do a costume change i'm like all right cool i
44:28
need to know her size or this or that i need two weeks to make it
44:31
i'm gonna need at least this much to start paying my tailor to make it now
44:33
we don't want to do the costume change anymore it's like
44:36
yeah they just think the magic is like you know it can be fabricated
44:39
but that's the thing when you've yeah if you're gonna be forking out
44:42
thousands tens of thousands hundreds of thousands bring
44:46
bring the like bring the noise yeah yeah
44:49
and the thing that the thing that allows us
44:52
i mean we when we had james diamond on the podcast a
44:55
few months back he said when oz came through and
44:58
lectured in perth australia 20 years ago he
45:02
sat him aside and said james if you want people to
45:05
like book you a lot and pay you a lot they gotta
45:08
want oz permon not a magician
45:11
you know yeah yeah the other thing in
45:14
the comments here as well dream upright is saying oz
45:17
does a lot of news anchor stuff and with.
45:20
Celebrities thomas congo saying he's huge on
45:23
espn so if you look on line and
45:26
you search os perlman you will just see endless sports show
45:30
appearances celebrity clips so
45:32
his perceived value of performing to
45:36
the type of people that he wants to be booked by he's done
45:39
super well at that and the the
45:42
ultimate thing is like his stuff is super fooling like
45:45
he's not he's using methods that are
45:48
fooling us in that we couldn't backtrack of okay
45:51
how would i make that happen you
45:54
know and and just for reference
45:57
that these are from what he said on the podcast or
46:00
joe rogan podcast is these are like original ideas and
46:04
relatively original effects which i totally commend
46:07
him for and i know that he is writing a book which is why he was on the pod
46:12
so i think i'll probably get around that i'm part of a magic book club we've
46:16
just ordered rc wins book it's due to be delivered pretty soon you know he's
46:20
self-working yeah i'm waiting for mine as well yeah yeah yeah you can join up what.
46:26
Arcy wind is releasing a a new book which i
46:28
believe is filled with self-working stuff oh
46:32
is it i believe i'm not sure like no one really
46:35
knows and so but we just yeah true arcy wind and we
46:37
have to have it like the book is titled it's titled
46:41
something like making old effects new again or something
46:43
like that so he's taken like effects that are classics and
46:46
he's put like the arcy twist on it or flavor on
46:49
it or whatever yeah i can't wait of course yeah
46:52
one good one good thing about rc win i will say is that
46:55
everything he like publishes as far as books go they're
46:58
just so pretty they're just really pretty books
47:01
you know when you get like a really pretty magic book like for me
47:04
i think my prettiest one is the one of max malini like that is one of the most
47:07
gorgeous books just to have on your shelf like it's just so alluring it's gorgeous
47:13
yeah yeah no yeah i love yeah i've got mine up there and yeah he paints his
47:19
own portraits for the different effect titles and It's wonderful. Yeah.
47:24
But look, I think as we slowly come to a close, we do have a speak pipe we want to address.
47:29
But before we get to that, we just, like upon reflection, Oz Perlman,
47:33
they're doing good things for magic and they're setting the bar.
47:37
And to me, that's inspiring.
47:38
I had a jam session yesterday for two hours on an effect that I've been working on for 10 years.
47:46
This one phase, I was sort of like, it wasn't great, but I was like, what do you think?
47:50
And I was with my cohort and they were just like, we
47:53
we created a whole different last phase of this coin routine and i just said
47:57
to them i go don't worry about how to do it just tell me what needs to happen
48:00
and i gotta what i'm creating now is i got an effect where i have coins in the
48:05
glass and you hear them and i'm swirling and then they just then you then you
48:10
stop hearing them and then you show the glass empty.
48:13
Damn and so i've got three ways i
48:16
can do that now and so i'm trying to prototype that that's going to be my
48:18
day i'm going to the hardware store when we're done damn
48:22
that's awesome i love hearing about working on new
48:25
magic it's it's really cool we have we
48:28
have a speak pipe but then we also just had alex lamb who's watching
48:30
the pod he just sent another one through and knowing alex
48:34
knowing he's a school teacher i know he wouldn't say
48:38
anything too profane that i'm sure
48:41
we can play even though i haven't proof listened to
48:43
it but i'll play the first one before that.
48:47
So the first one is comes from nicholas he's
48:50
only written his first name but let's see what nicholas
48:53
is up to nick i'm going to watch you for the audio okay let's
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have a listen hey guys so quick little story last saturday
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went out with some friends took a deck of cards we went out to eat and
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i was doing a four ace routine where at the
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end the spectator splits the deck up into four piles and
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on top the four piles are the aces easy stuff
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as we were going through first three
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files went perfectly the last pile the
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spectator dropped the cards so
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i quickly just gathered them all up you know i thought
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they kind of fell you know in the same order
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so i just sweared it back up and just continued on
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with the trick and we went to the big reveal first
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day's good second is good third is good the fourth
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ace was actually a two so without
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panicking i picked up the peck i looked
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at the cards the ace was two from
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the top so i just put the
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cards back down you know went through
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the reveal everyone freaked out and one
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of my friends one of my other friends even was like when.
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I did that trick you know it was just the four races
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that was so much cooler how did you do that it was
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a good time and it will probably never ever happen again
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thanks guys nice nice
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way to have something happen out of your hands and
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then just let it like milk the
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moment it can happen again if you
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learn di vernon's cutting the aces from stars of
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magic you managed to recreate his finale
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to that effect it's a theatrical banger well played yeah and you know it's that's
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the thing like it should this should inspire the means of being able to do this
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repeatedly is what i think and second to that what makes me happy about this
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podcast is that sometimes these moments happen and,
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Like they would have gone and to the, to the ages and never been talked about.
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But now that you've shared those stories on the pod, it's like,
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yes, it lives forever. Like, I really liked that.
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I love hearing those moments. Some, you know, the public loves a magician in
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moment, a magician in trouble moment.
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And they also love a moment where they think that could never, ever happen again.
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Like that's literally my career is trying to make these fricking moments happen
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that feel like they'd never happen again.
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And it that's awesome so well
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done bro well done keep them keep those yeah
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fun gig stories coming in guys now alex has
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warned me he still hasn't told me what the speak pipe is about but i feel like
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we just listen to it and we'll see what happens we'll hold him responsible so
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this is from alex lamb see what his question is or story hey guys just a quick
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question for you the other Today I asked Josh,
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how do you get people to leave you reviews without feeling like you're bugging them?
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And he gave me some really good advice on that. My follow-up is,
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if you're doing walk-around stuff and people are taking videos,
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how do you get them to send you the videos again without feeling like you're bugging them?
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Do you bribe them and say, hey, I'll show you something special if you don't
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mind filming and sending it to me?
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Do you like make time after doing a gig and walking around and collecting videos.
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Yeah I think it's just a personal thing for me like I feel weird bugging people
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for that kind of stuff so I'm just trying to figure out a good way to get those
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good videos thanks for listening I enjoyed the pod love you all love you too bud,
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yo thank you Alex okay it wasn't too it wasn't terrible so we could wait ever
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to play it hell yeah Can I chime in on this one? Go for it.
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So if I see someone filming, I might do something to the effect of like,
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oh, you filming? Okay, let me give you something really good.
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Like this is good for camera. And then I'll do like my multiple card select
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because I do lots of like cuts and cardistry and then launch cards in the air
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catching me in my mouth. And it just looks good on camera.
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So I'll let them keep filming and then I'll do an effect where I'll ask them
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like, oh, can you send me those vids later?
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I go, yeah, we'll set up a friendship before this goes. And I do that. do the whole routine.
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And then sometimes I'll go like, oh, you can send me those vids on the back
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of my card box as a QR code, just give it a scan and then send it to me via Instagram.
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Oh, while you're at it, read what I wrote in the bio.
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And then I have a revelation written in the bio where it's like,
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you were going to think of whatever else.
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So it's just a nice way to one, draw followers to your Instagram and two,
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have that moment where people will send you stuff.
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They might not send it, right? But at least you've given them the avenue to do that.
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So more times than not, they will.
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Yeah but don't realize asking is yeah so asking don't
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feel like i mean i think don't have
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the thing in your head of that you're bothering them you just they filmed
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you you know and half the time they'll be like oh can i film you
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and to which you can just say yeah but make
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sure you tag me in it alex lamb or whatever but it
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i would just say if you if you are going to get footage from
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someone who's just filmed you like try and get
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it straight away like don't be like I'm going
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to remember who they were and go to them at the end because sometimes
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they'll forget or just you know
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get drunk or they'll leave so I if I
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have done what you're saying like the moment that routine's done that that's
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the most they're going to love you because they've just reacted to what you've
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done I'll just be honest I'll say hey it's so hard as a performer to get footage
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of my work like do you have airdrop would you mind airdropping that to me and
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they'll just always go, actually, yeah, that'd be, yeah, for sure.
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However, if you just want to take it into your own hands, get a pair of these
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babies, the Meta Ray-Bans, and just film them while you're gigging.
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Like I, the last two corporate gigs I did, I just literally had these on.
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Now these are the sunglass versions, but I also have the earlier versions for
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when I'm at a corporate gig.
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And I literally just wear these and I'll say, Hey guys, just so you know,
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I'm also, you'll notice these have a little GoPro camera in them and they'll be excited.
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They're like, oh, wow, I've heard about these. And it's kind of a fun thing
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for people to see this tech and to be like, look, I'm making a little montage
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reel for the client of you guys reacting to the magic. Are you okay if I film this?
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I've never, ever had someone say no.
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In fact, I feel like some people ham up their reaction a little bit knowing
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that the wedding or the birthday boy is going to see it.
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So it kind of helps in a certain way.
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And then you're fine. And then you can just film as much as you want.
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And that's how I word it. Like, hey guys, you'll notice these have a little
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camera on them. It's the Meta Ray-Bans.
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I'm making a little montage video for the client. Are you okay if I film some of this?
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But what I'll do is I'll do an opening effect first, and then I'll say that.
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And then I might record the last trick once they're the most hyped.
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And I genuinely do make a montage video and send it to the client.
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And that's its own kind of worms of why that's such a.
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Added benefit to give to the client but anyway take
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it that's a great idea send them the client the video
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of how much fun their their clients
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had dude i can't tell
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you like now getting rebooked is
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so easy because when i hit them up i send them
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the video again a bit of a tech question what's
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the storage like on those glasses is it on board and
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how much is it it's a lot it's like gigs yeah
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it has gigs of memory in them 500 gigs
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no no like i mean what
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is i don't know it's it's at least look it's
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filming in hd yeah right so it
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can film a lot and i want to say
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it's like around three gigs of of memory
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just on on the actual phone on the
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actual sorry on the actual glasses which in hd is
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like hours of video but it can
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only record currently you can only record up
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to three minutes at a time then you have to hit record again so
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i wait until i'm doing the effect that i
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want to record to hit record and yeah you can just record like multiple performances
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at a gig and then on your app on your phone it just it just sends it all to
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your phone and you've got it ready to go And the clips from it have been doing
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really well for me on social media.
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It's rechargeable four hours and there's a 32 gig flash storage.
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Oh, sheesh. Okay, it's even bigger.
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32 gigs. 32 gig, which is approximately 500 plus photos or 100 plus 30 second videos.
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Yeah, it's massive. I'd never been close to running out.
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Yeah, the case itself is the charger. So when you put it back in, it's recharging now.
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See there's a little green light transfer from the glasses to the storage unit
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so the no so to transfer the footage it's only through the app currently but the app is quick like it.
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It will send it to your phone. No worries. It's all wireless. All wireless. Yeah.
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And yeah, I wish they would sponsor me because I can't talk about this higher.
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I'm going to start filming demos at the shop. And I have a great solution for that.
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That's a great idea. We're going to start prospecting for sponsorships,
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I think, and see if we can get them to sponsor the entire pod and just be like,
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imagine three of us producing stuff.
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No doubt. Dude, 100%. And it's a great way to, yeah, have content for your Instagram stories.
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Like I used to just film, you know, the bloody venue I was at,
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like just a little, oh, I'm doing a gig, but now I can show in real time,
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like snippets of the gig, me doing the gig and stuff.
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And it's made it much easier to storytell.
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And like at last week's gig, if I dive into a mini gig story,
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I did card to ceiling, but the ceiling was three stories high.
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It was this beautiful giant shed and they had a perfectly squared,
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like wooden, like a timber glossy roof, like just a square of it.
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And everything else was metal.
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And I'm like, that's a target board if I've ever seen one.
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So I had the Ray-Benz on and I was able to show like, all right, I'm going to try this.
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And then you see me absolutely launch the fuck out of this deck of cards and
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you see it stick to the roof because I'm, you know, it's filming whatever I'm looking at.
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And that card at the
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river shed in howard smith wharves will forever
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have that card stuck to the roof because ain't no one taking that down and so
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i was able to film it because i had these and yeah so anyway alex that's just
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a long way to say if you don't want to like rely if you feel like you're bothering
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people asking for content just film it yourself and get yourself.
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A pair of these because they've been really fun and uh and they look cool so.
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Anyway how's your guys day well that's
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been an hour guys we thank you so much for listening today it's
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been an absolute blast we will have more content next week it's probably
1:00:04
been a while since we've done a history lesson i might jazz out
1:00:07
one of those perhaps in the future we have been
1:00:10
prospecting to the guests you have been asking about so we'll
1:00:13
let you know how that goes friends i know it's been a lot since we've had a guest
1:00:16
and also in the discord which i've been
1:00:18
trying to engage with more people have been asking like can we hang out
1:00:21
there more i'm gonna jump on there in about 10 15 and and
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i'll be on there for an hour if anyone wants to come and join me come say hi
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come look at some cool coin magic i've been creating yep and
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uh links for the discord and everything will be here right josh whose face is
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frozen yeah absolutely can you guys still hear me because the screen's definitely
1:00:38
frozen yeah it looks like you're it looks like you're looking down at doug's
1:00:43
junk and like really impressed you're like oh i am really impressed no my whole camera is frozen,
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let's wrap up this shindig hey guys thanks for tuning the magic guys this is
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your final word sayonara josh josh has no control.