Latest / The Breakfast Club / The breakfast Club Best Of Episode(Jerrod Carmichael Interview, Malcolm Jamal Warner Interview, And Dr. Wes Bellamy Interview)
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Breakfast blood got daddy the rightist cuts. I want to
- 0:06Speaker 1: breakfast Club, Baby. I can't say breakfast club without the
- 0:10Speaker 1: Breakless Club.
- 0:11Speaker 2: You're like this rare air.
- 0:14Speaker 1: She got platforms and partners all over the place. Because
- 0:17Speaker 1: your man is so high, people want to be invested
- 0:20Speaker 1: with the Breakfast Club. Though. I don't think white people
- 0:22Speaker 1: know how popular.
- 0:23Speaker 3: You guys are.
- 0:26Speaker 1: DJ envyess hilarious, Charlemagne the God. You guys really are
- 0:30Speaker 1: like the hip hop early morning, late night talk to y'all.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Y'all know what you'all talking about. This is your time
- 0:39Speaker 1: to get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eighty
- 0:42Speaker 1: five one five one. We want to hear from you
- 0:44Speaker 1: on the Breakfast Club.
- 0:46Speaker 4: Hello.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Who's this?
- 0:48Speaker 5: This is Jamel Newburn, North Carolina, Jamail, get her off
- 0:52Speaker 5: your chest?
- 0:53Speaker 6: Hey, I just wanted to call y'all and uh, y'all,
- 0:56Speaker 6: good morning, charlamagnea god, DJ hilarious, what's having it?
- 1:01Speaker 1: Good morning baby? Appreciate you.
- 1:03Speaker 7: Hey.
- 1:03Speaker 4: I also want to know I got two questions, d J.
- 1:07Speaker 4: I mean Charlemagne the cod Yes, I need all your books.
- 1:10Speaker 4: I got shook one.
- 1:13Speaker 7: I'm eating that right now.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Okay. I got a new book called Get On us
- 1:18Speaker 1: and die line. Watch small talk sucks. Okay, they last,
- 1:21Speaker 1: they last.
- 1:21Speaker 6: And I also want to shout out my wife and
- 1:23Speaker 6: my kids.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Damn, I thought you were a stud. He did the
- 1:32Speaker 1: whole time.
- 1:33Speaker 4: I thought, Hey, I listened to y'all every morning.
- 1:36Speaker 6: Okay, my first time, this is my first time calling,
- 1:40Speaker 6: and I got straight through.
- 1:41Speaker 4: That's crazy.
- 1:43Speaker 1: I appreciate you.
- 1:44Speaker 5: Hey, hey, hey, but hey, but Charlomad, can you send
- 1:47Speaker 5: me a book of fan I got you gonna, I got,
- 1:50Speaker 5: I got a pack in here for you.
- 1:52Speaker 6: I need, I need that black privilege on.
- 1:54Speaker 8: Don't hang up.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Okay, all right, say let's say left.
- 1:57Speaker 4: All right, I mean, all right.
- 1:59Speaker 1: Jack, all right, man, ain't sound like a stud. I'm
- 2:02Speaker 1: comparing at the end, right man, you know the same.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Time it did something she did, I mean he did something.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Well uddy, well he and she could have a wife
- 2:11Speaker 1: regardless of Yeah, I was gonna say, your wife thinking
- 2:13Speaker 1: is but.
- 2:14Speaker 2: This she ain't never denied, she had never done it,
- 2:16Speaker 2: so she yeah, so she probably is like, oh, you
- 2:18Speaker 2: got me next.
- 2:19Speaker 1: For somebodys don't know they got a sound.
- 2:21Speaker 8: Hello, Yeah, what's up, Brady, Get you off.
- 2:24Speaker 7: Your chest over her back.
- 2:26Speaker 8: Tell you a man to be quiet for.
- 2:27Speaker 9: A say, you get full top of the morning.
- 2:30Speaker 4: How y'all doing king, how you have everything good?
- 2:34Speaker 9: So listen right, I wanted to get it off my
- 2:36Speaker 9: chest that you know all my lady man, she god
- 2:39Speaker 9: through my phone when I'm sleeping, and then you know,
- 2:41Speaker 9: whenever I try to go through her phone when she sleep,
- 2:44Speaker 9: she's sleeping with her on her pillow underneath her, you know, and.
- 2:48Speaker 4: Should she would have wake up man anyway through her phone.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Why y'all don't trust each other? How about that? I
- 2:54Speaker 1: don't hear nothing else. Why y'all don't trust each other?
- 2:56Speaker 1: That's so conny, y'all with each other phone?
- 2:58Speaker 4: Listen, listen, it's not even that you know, I don't.
- 3:01Speaker 4: I don't do that.
- 3:02Speaker 1: You just said you do it. You just said she
- 3:04Speaker 1: go through your phone and you go through her phone.
- 3:06Speaker 4: Yeah, but I do that because she do it. But
- 3:08Speaker 4: I'm saying I don't just randomly say I'm gonna go
- 3:10Speaker 4: to her phone because I will.
- 3:11Speaker 8: Sir, Have you cheated before?
- 3:12Speaker 4: I got caught cheating in the past?
- 3:15Speaker 1: There you go. Has she got caught cheating?
- 3:17Speaker 4: No?
- 3:17Speaker 1: Is this your guilty conscience? What do you say yet?
- 3:20Speaker 8: Trying to get even with him.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Man, knock it off.
- 3:22Speaker 4: You try to get either with me your knock it off.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Knock it off.
- 3:26Speaker 8: You don't stop going through my phone.
- 3:29Speaker 4: I just told you she goes through my phone when
- 3:31Speaker 4: I'm sleep.
- 3:32Speaker 8: Yeah, so that means you do it too.
- 3:33Speaker 1: What's the tip of tap for? He's scared just like yo.
- 3:37Speaker 4: Listen listen. Why she can go through my when I'm
- 3:39Speaker 4: sleep but I can't go through her though.
- 3:41Speaker 1: You're just scared she's gonna get that poom poom to
- 3:43Speaker 1: somebody else because you got a guilty conscience.
- 3:45Speaker 4: That's all all.
- 3:46Speaker 1: You gave her a reason to because you got caught cheating.
- 3:51Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I appreciate you. Guys.
- 3:56Speaker 1: Hello, who's this yet with your boy? J p A?
- 4:00Speaker 1: Good morning Pa?
- 4:02Speaker 7: Hello?
- 4:02Speaker 1: What's up Jay Gas?
- 4:04Speaker 4: Yeah? I hear you.
- 4:04Speaker 1: What's going on? Get it off your chest? All right? Man?
- 4:07Speaker 6: I just want to let everybody know, especially the brothers
- 4:09Speaker 6: out there, especially as black man.
- 4:11Speaker 4: Man, go home, man, go home. That over time.
- 4:15Speaker 6: It ain't worth it. That money, it's not worth it.
- 4:19Speaker 7: You got home here.
- 4:21Speaker 1: Like you needs if you needed to keep the lights
- 4:24Speaker 1: on at home.
- 4:25Speaker 6: Listen, listen, listen, sol Man, you know, listen. Family more
- 4:29Speaker 6: important than anything bro, I'm listening. For a year straight,
- 4:32Speaker 6: I was working doubles almost every day. I almost lost
- 4:36Speaker 6: my family behind this bro. And she simply told me.
- 4:39Speaker 6: She was like, Yo, you just simply weren't there, damn.
- 4:42Speaker 6: But that's that's more important than anything right now. Like
- 4:44Speaker 6: I'm fighting right now to get my family back, kids, wife,
- 4:47Speaker 6: all that, bro. Like, and I realized, like, yo, that
- 4:50Speaker 6: money ain't important.
- 4:51Speaker 7: Like you know what the kids missed.
- 4:53Speaker 6: They missed me being there.
- 4:54Speaker 1: That's right.
- 4:55Speaker 6: You feel what I'm saying. They ain't worried about that
- 4:56Speaker 6: dollar billing. Kids don't care about how much money I'm making.
- 4:59Speaker 6: They gonna be for that time I spent with them.
- 5:01Speaker 6: The light get cut off, they ain't gonna think about, oh,
- 5:03Speaker 6: dadd ain't have the money for that. They're gonna think, yo,
- 5:05Speaker 6: dad was playing with us with the flashlights.
- 5:07Speaker 4: Well you don't want to like to go home, but
- 5:09Speaker 4: you're right.
- 5:10Speaker 5: You got to make time for your family absolutely positively
- 5:13Speaker 5: now doing.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Devil's the most important thing.
- 5:17Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I'm fighting for it right now.
- 5:19Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
- 5:20Speaker 6: And I can't blame it, like it's my fault.
- 5:22Speaker 5: I wasn't there, But you know you can't and I
- 5:25Speaker 5: don't want to. You know, you're putting a lot on yourself,
- 5:27Speaker 5: you know, as a as a father. You know, the
- 5:29Speaker 5: first thing that to be thinking is we got to
- 5:31Speaker 5: protect and provide and provide means a lot, and especially
- 5:33Speaker 5: in this crazy world where people have been losing their jobs,
- 5:35Speaker 5: things have been messed up.
- 5:36Speaker 8: So you just want to.
- 5:37Speaker 5: Make sure that you can pay for school, you can
- 5:38Speaker 5: pay for activities, you can pay for your house, your
- 5:41Speaker 5: car and all those things.
- 5:42Speaker 8: So don't beat yourself up too much.
- 5:43Speaker 1: But they're talking about activities this brother right here, you
- 5:46Speaker 1: just want to keep some food on the table. And sadly,
- 5:49Speaker 1: sometimes that's all it is. That that seems like the
- 5:53Speaker 1: bad minimum, but it's really not. It's actually a whole lot.
- 5:56Speaker 1: Especially what you're saying, well, you're saying that you want
- 5:57Speaker 1: to spend more time with your family. Man, So I
- 5:59Speaker 1: think we got to shift our mindset. A lot of
- 6:01Speaker 1: times we think just being able to provide food and
- 6:03Speaker 1: keep a roof over the head of the bad minimum.
- 6:05Speaker 1: It's not that is a lot. That's a whole lot
- 6:07Speaker 1: of it. That's right.
- 6:08Speaker 6: Time is more important than anything, Like I just switched
- 6:11Speaker 6: up jobs. I took a lower paying job. I'm working
- 6:13Speaker 6: third ship, so I could be home with them all day.
- 6:15Speaker 6: Like I don't care about no money, no more aspect.
- 6:18Speaker 7: You leave them, I leave them.
- 6:20Speaker 1: I respect it, my brother. Salute to you man, and
- 6:22Speaker 1: salutes being a stand up man for your family.
- 6:24Speaker 4: Brother.
- 6:24Speaker 8: Absolutely, have a good one.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Brother.
- 6:26Speaker 6: Hey, hey, saw macocket a book?
- 6:27Speaker 3: Bro?
- 6:28Speaker 1: Yes, send my guy a book because you don't got
- 6:30Speaker 1: no money. You have your money another one, Send him
- 6:33Speaker 1: a book right now, eddie, get it. Put them on
- 6:35Speaker 1: hold and get my guy's address and send him a
- 6:38Speaker 1: copy and get on at a die line right now.
- 6:40Speaker 1: That's the least I can do for you, brother.
- 6:42Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
- 6:43Speaker 7: Bro.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Yes, sir, have a good one.
- 6:44Speaker 7: Man.
- 6:44Speaker 5: Get it off your chest. Eight hundred and five eight
- 6:47Speaker 5: five one five one. If you need to vent, hit
- 6:48Speaker 5: us up now. It's the breakfast club. Good morning, the
- 6:51Speaker 5: breakfast Club. It's your time to get it off your chests.
- 6:58Speaker 5: Whether you're mad or.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Blessed, got out of the same industry. We want to
- 7:01Speaker 1: hear from you on the breakfast Club.
- 7:04Speaker 7: Hello that yo, Good morning dj n V. Charlotte Maine
- 7:08Speaker 7: in chests, good morning. How you are doing this is
- 7:09Speaker 7: coach Davis?
- 7:12Speaker 10: Off your chest?
- 7:12Speaker 7: What's up listen, which.
- 7:15Speaker 3: Is with school spear running down.
- 7:17Speaker 7: Man. You know, I ran across something on my timeline
- 7:20Speaker 7: on Facebook talking about the possibility of New York City
- 7:23Speaker 7: getting rid of the Regent's tests for students to graduate
- 7:27Speaker 7: high school. And I think that's a horrible idea. You know,
- 7:31Speaker 7: I understand that to to.
- 7:33Speaker 3: Gain college admissions.
- 7:34Speaker 7: You know, they slowed down on the SAT, which is
- 7:37Speaker 7: understandable because there was some cultural bias to it, you know,
- 7:41Speaker 7: understanding the idea of the analogy of social sofa to
- 7:44Speaker 7: fourier or couch just.
- 7:46Speaker 3: The hallway if you were in a project.
- 7:48Speaker 7: She had no idea what the then fourier is.
- 7:51Speaker 4: So I did it.
- 7:52Speaker 7: But you have to have some competency, competency to get
- 7:55Speaker 7: out of high school, man, and to take the region's
- 7:58Speaker 7: test out. I think it's crazy.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Well, the region's test is.
- 8:01Speaker 5: You know, New York has wanted seven states that has
- 8:03Speaker 5: their regions exams. But they were saying the reason that
- 8:05Speaker 5: they were getting rid of the Region's exam is one
- 8:08Speaker 5: that's not in every state. And two they're saying a
- 8:10Speaker 5: lot of kids just don't take tests well. And if
- 8:12Speaker 5: a kid doesn't take tests well or gainst anxiety, or
- 8:15Speaker 5: gets nervous, they can possibly fail.
- 8:17Speaker 8: And if they fail that that region's exam.
- 8:19Speaker 5: Even if they do well, they might not be able
- 8:20Speaker 5: to get their high school diploma.
- 8:22Speaker 1: That's how I ended up in the slow glass because
- 8:24Speaker 1: I'm not good at taking.
- 8:27Speaker 7: The shot. Under President Bush Junior, there was a policy
- 8:33Speaker 7: called NCLB, no child.
- 8:35Speaker 8: That's behind correct.
- 8:37Speaker 7: That was the worst policy in educational history because, like
- 8:41Speaker 7: you said, they got this test anxiety. Well listen, they're
- 8:44Speaker 7: not going to leave them behind anyway. So somebody has
- 8:48Speaker 7: to have to.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Be a standing Yeah, but if.
- 8:52Speaker 5: There are a lot of kids that don't take exams, well,
- 8:54Speaker 5: smart kids get anxiety, just don't understand necessarily the test
- 8:57Speaker 5: taking procedure.
- 8:59Speaker 8: I mean, I was a hard taken Test two, but
- 9:01Speaker 8: that is not a surprise. Shut up.
- 9:03Speaker 1: But yeah, he said that we were going to be still.
- 9:06Speaker 1: It was. It was I still got my degree.
- 9:09Speaker 8: I got my degree, and I was I.
- 9:11Speaker 7: Got my degree.
- 9:12Speaker 10: I get it.
- 9:13Speaker 7: Anything, I get it, I get it. You know, not
- 9:14Speaker 7: being able to you know, having such anxiety that is real.
- 9:17Speaker 7: But you're gonna get tested every day, dude, I'm saying,
- 9:22Speaker 7: not a math got to be able to live up
- 9:24Speaker 7: to it.
- 9:24Speaker 1: Thank you. We do use math every day. Math kicked
- 9:27Speaker 1: your ass yesterday when you was trying to do the
- 9:29Speaker 1: Tupaca quation when you said Tupaca dad for fifteen years Okay.
- 9:33Speaker 5: But that wasn't math. That was his memory. That was
- 9:35Speaker 5: like trying to do to It was like yesterday trying
- 9:38Speaker 5: to do twenty four minus nineteen ninety six. It was
- 9:42Speaker 5: so said, that wasn't.
- 9:43Speaker 1: Math, man, that that was his memory. I was trying
- 9:45Speaker 1: to remember what he passed away. That's why I threw
- 9:47Speaker 1: out that like fifteen years ago.
- 9:48Speaker 4: But now I'm trying to figure.
- 9:49Speaker 2: Out how but the note chot, the note child left behind.
- 9:53Speaker 2: That's crazy that. I don't think that should be a
- 9:55Speaker 2: program either, because they just pushing these kids along, whether
- 9:57Speaker 2: they whether they inhabits of them all the time, Like
- 10:01Speaker 2: kids will be on like third grade reeking levels and
- 10:04Speaker 2: he's pushing them all the way up the middle school.
- 10:05Speaker 1: We know, jes we know, you know. Get it off
- 10:13Speaker 1: your chest.
- 10:14Speaker 5: Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If
- 10:16Speaker 5: you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the
- 10:17Speaker 5: Breakfast Club.
- 10:18Speaker 8: Good morning, the Breakfast.
- 10:20Speaker 1: Club, Good morning.
- 10:22Speaker 5: Everybody is DJ en Vy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God
- 10:26Speaker 5: we are the Breakfast Club.
- 10:27Speaker 8: We got a special guest in the building.
- 10:29Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, we have jiraw called Michael.
- 10:32Speaker 11: I'll be doing your voice in the showers more than
- 10:34Speaker 11: everybody's d.
- 10:35Speaker 1: J thinks about you and naked. Yeah, yeah, you know what.
- 10:41Speaker 11: Let's lean into all the games. Like sometimes when I'm naked,
- 10:45Speaker 11: I think about DJA. Yes, yes, yes, yes, happy to
- 10:49Speaker 11: see you.
- 10:50Speaker 4: Happy to see you, bro.
- 10:51Speaker 1: So I'm always happy when people come right after donkey
- 10:53Speaker 1: of Today show. Oh my god, let me tell you something.
- 10:57Speaker 1: I was responding to you, like Monique in my house,
- 11:00Speaker 1: just pacing around, just being like Lena, Lena, what your
- 11:05Speaker 1: mother said about giving me No, let's talk about that.
- 11:09Speaker 1: So there's a couple of things I want to make
- 11:11Speaker 1: clear about that. So Charlamagne gave you donkey to day
- 11:15Speaker 1: you report it on you.
- 11:18Speaker 11: You played a clip of my stand up, but it
- 11:20Speaker 11: started at the punchline, and it like completely erased the
- 11:24Speaker 11: setup of it.
- 11:25Speaker 1: And I really don't like that.
- 11:27Speaker 11: It made it seem like I was talking like I'm
- 11:29Speaker 11: into some type of race sexual slavery role play with
- 11:33Speaker 11: my boyfriend, which is untrue. It's so false, and I
- 11:36Speaker 11: expect that type of thing from TMZ because they have
- 11:39Speaker 11: no humanity. They don't care about the people that get
- 11:41Speaker 11: hurt when they report these sort of things. But your friend,
- 11:44Speaker 11: so I really didn't like that, Like, like, I know
- 11:46Speaker 11: you repeated it in the Neil interview. I didn't like
- 11:48Speaker 11: that that that was very, very unfair. It was a joke.
- 11:52Speaker 1: But yeah, but I need you to watch the show
- 11:54Speaker 1: Man and anybody who watches the show. It's not what
- 11:56Speaker 1: I said.
- 11:57Speaker 11: It's so false. It's so untrue. And I don't like
- 12:00Speaker 11: that because it's like, no, well, we'll get into that later.
- 12:03Speaker 11: It has nothing to do with my boyfriend. It has
- 12:07Speaker 11: nothing like the sex that we have, has nothing to
- 12:10Speaker 11: do with sex. It's something like people have been reporting
- 12:12Speaker 11: on and I really really don't like it. It's about
- 12:14Speaker 11: my boyfriend reading so much. He makes me feel insecure
- 12:17Speaker 11: about my level of reading. And look, I get it,
- 12:20Speaker 11: like it's something that people have been running with because
- 12:23Speaker 11: one because I have a white boyfriend, so like people
- 12:25Speaker 11: like try and create some type of crazy story out
- 12:29Speaker 11: of that. And it's a small group of people really
- 12:31Speaker 11: like I read all the tweets and it's like some
- 12:34Speaker 11: gay black men and some klu Klux clan members who
- 12:37Speaker 11: don't like that I have a white boyfriend.
- 12:39Speaker 1: They agree on that, so.
- 12:40Speaker 11: Congratulations, like the Klan and doctor Lumara and some people
- 12:44Speaker 11: find some common ground on that.
- 12:46Speaker 1: But he's a human being. He deserves respect. I deserve respect.
- 12:50Speaker 11: I don't appreciate things being misreported or like said about
- 12:53Speaker 11: them in that way. It's completely false, So I don't
- 12:57Speaker 11: like that. I just want to make that clear that
- 12:59Speaker 11: that's not something. I know you were just reading the news,
- 13:02Speaker 11: but like you're a friend, and I want you to
- 13:03Speaker 11: like actually have nuance with these stories, like people can
- 13:06Speaker 11: get hurt. They're actually real lives at stake with the
- 13:09Speaker 11: things that you say, and look, come after me, that's fine,
- 13:11Speaker 11: but don't come after like my my boyfriend. Well I'm
- 13:17Speaker 11: saying when that's in the headline and that's reported like
- 13:19Speaker 11: and then misreported like oh he's into race slave play
- 13:22Speaker 11: with his white boyfriend, I don't like that headline because
- 13:25Speaker 11: it's false.
- 13:25Speaker 1: It is not true at all. Now on to Dave Chappelle. No,
- 13:29Speaker 1: I want to stay to the joke, though in context,
- 13:30Speaker 1: the joke still not a good joke. That's on you
- 13:34Speaker 1: comedy for a while. I got I got some because
- 13:35Speaker 1: you're still saying you're a slave. No, you know, slave
- 13:39Speaker 1: math is teaching the slave to read. You know, Listen,
- 13:41Speaker 1: I'm talking about my own personal insecurity. I'm an educated person.
- 13:45Speaker 1: I'm usually the smartest person in the room. He reads
- 13:47Speaker 1: so much it makes me feel like, oh do I
- 13:49Speaker 1: even know how to read? That joke works if I
- 13:51Speaker 1: had a black boyfriend. My boyfriend was black. That joke
- 13:54Speaker 1: actually works better if I had and you the slave
- 13:57Speaker 1: and the white person is the slave. Listen, if you calne, well,
- 14:00Speaker 1: you know the first anti literacy laws were created in
- 14:03Speaker 1: north of Stodca line.
- 14:03Speaker 11: You are sure, sure, but that's not my roles. Comedian
- 14:06Speaker 11: to started getting into like like literacy laws and stuff
- 14:08Speaker 11: like that. You completely lost that I evoked provocative imagery
- 14:12Speaker 11: sometimes in my jokes. Some people are very sensitive to that.
- 14:15Speaker 11: That's your right. You don't have to laugh at that.
- 14:17Speaker 11: You could like hear the word slavery and completely shut off.
- 14:20Speaker 11: That's completely fine, But don't misconstrue what I said and
- 14:23Speaker 11: don't like make it into something that is not, because
- 14:26Speaker 11: that's where I start to get offended that the statement
- 14:32Speaker 11: like you said it like multiple times on the show,
- 14:34Speaker 11: like oh, he's into slave role play.
- 14:37Speaker 1: With his white boyfriend. That's untrue that I think I
- 14:41Speaker 1: said it Charlemagne. That is not the joke.
- 14:43Speaker 11: The joke's about me reading the jokes about my insecurity,
- 14:46Speaker 11: about like not being as well read. When I be
- 14:50Speaker 11: in bed next to him and he's saying, when I'm
- 14:54Speaker 11: in bed next to him and he's like on his
- 14:55Speaker 11: third novel of the month, I'll be watching breakfast club
- 14:58Speaker 11: interviews and I feel like, oh, do I should read more?
- 15:02Speaker 1: That's what the joke is. The joke.
- 15:03Speaker 11: It has nothing to do with sex, has nothing to
- 15:05Speaker 11: do with the type of sex that we have. And
- 15:07Speaker 11: that's just absolutely false, but still not a good joke.
- 15:10Speaker 11: When you're black and hey, listen, that's on you.
- 15:13Speaker 1: It's on you. You do stand up and you figure
- 15:14Speaker 1: it out for me, the crowds laugh whatever. I'll say
- 15:18Speaker 1: this about if the crowd is the majority white, are
- 15:20Speaker 1: they laughing with you or at you? You know, it's fine.
- 15:22Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm actually shocked.
- 15:23Speaker 8: It's actually a pretty decent amount of black.
- 15:25Speaker 11: People coming out to see me. I really appreciate y'all
- 15:27Speaker 11: for coming out. I want y'all to keep coming out too.
- 15:29Speaker 11: I like the seeing it really, especially black women are
- 15:34Speaker 11: like in the crowd, they've been like talking to me.
- 15:36Speaker 11: They seem invested in my life, and it makes me
- 15:38Speaker 11: feel really really special. So I really like that and
- 15:40Speaker 11: I appreciate that. Now, I want to move on to
- 15:42Speaker 11: the Dave Chappelle portion of it, because I've heard you
- 15:44Speaker 11: comment on that too. I deeply regret ever saying anything
- 15:48Speaker 11: about Dave Chappelle to the press. I want to say
- 15:51Speaker 11: that I'm sorry for that, because one, I'm a huge
- 15:54Speaker 11: Dave Chappelle Dave Chappelle fan. I love Dave like. I
- 15:58Speaker 11: think he's brilliant. I think he's a bright lie in
- 16:00Speaker 11: a dying industry. I think he's more important now than
- 16:02Speaker 11: ever before, because like comedians are now just posting clips
- 16:05Speaker 11: that I'm doing crowd work online and calling at art,
- 16:08Speaker 11: and it's not art. Dave Chappelle is an artist. He's
- 16:10Speaker 11: one of the few artists that we have, and I
- 16:12Speaker 11: care deeply about the work that he makes. With that said,
- 16:15Speaker 11: the criticism that I had had nothing to do with
- 16:17Speaker 11: the morality of the joke, had nothing to do with
- 16:19Speaker 11: the ethics of the joke. That's something that's also been misreported.
- 16:23Speaker 11: The criticism I had was that of a fan someone
- 16:27Speaker 11: who respects him so much that I want him to
- 16:30Speaker 11: focus his genius on a wide range of topics. I
- 16:33Speaker 11: think that like it started, but it started being really
- 16:36Speaker 11: really focused on one thing.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this. Look that's like I'm saying that
- 16:41Speaker 1: about the slave YoY. I'll say this. I'm also a
- 16:45Speaker 1: big fan of jay Z. If jay Z made three
- 16:48Speaker 1: albums about trans people, I'd be like, Hey, what's going
- 16:50Speaker 1: on with jay? But Jaz made three albums more than
- 16:52Speaker 1: three albums about selling drugs, You're just gonna put him
- 16:54Speaker 1: in that. Uh, you don't pigeonhole them with debt, No
- 16:57Speaker 1: they jay Z. I mean, listen, I would love to
- 16:59Speaker 1: get to jay z argument. Jay Z was very personal,
- 17:02Speaker 1: very emotional. He always evolved. Four four four was incredible
- 17:05Speaker 1: because it showed growth and evolution and something you've never
- 17:09Speaker 1: seen before in rap.
- 17:10Speaker 11: And that's a thing with comedy too. Comedy doesn't grow,
- 17:13Speaker 11: comedy doesn't evolve. It's it's kind of stunted like rap.
- 17:16Speaker 11: And like we just started getting like real braggadocious, like
- 17:19Speaker 11: antagonistic with the crowd, and it can evolve, like and
- 17:22Speaker 11: we need smart people like Dave, like Chris Rock, like
- 17:25Speaker 11: myself to actually evolve the art form because.
- 17:28Speaker 1: It is dying. It's so so important for people to
- 17:32Speaker 1: go up and do deep personal stories or have a
- 17:36Speaker 1: deep perspective about things going on in the world because
- 17:39Speaker 1: it's not happening. You see it online. Yeah, I know.
- 17:42Speaker 11: Well listen, all I'm saying is and because I've talked
- 17:45Speaker 11: about Dave a lot, I don't want to talk about
- 17:47Speaker 11: Dave anymore. I honestly, I called him an ego manac.
- 17:51Speaker 11: I'm a ego maniac. I'm here to talk about me.
- 17:52Speaker 11: I have a show that I want to talk about.
- 17:54Speaker 1: A Yeah, yeah, I know, you know.
- 17:57Speaker 11: And I'll tell you honestly, from now on, any the
- 18:00Speaker 11: thoughts I have for Dave will be directed in a
- 18:03Speaker 11: phone call to day.
- 18:04Speaker 1: I'll never do it again.
- 18:06Speaker 8: All Right, we got more A comedian girl called Michael.
- 18:08Speaker 8: When we come back, so don't move.
- 18:09Speaker 1: It's to breakfast Club. Good morning, the breakfast club.
- 18:15Speaker 5: Holding Everybody's dj NV, Jess Hilarius, Charlomagne, the God we
- 18:19Speaker 5: are to breakfast Club.
- 18:20Speaker 1: Geral called Michael su here, Charlomagne. What would you say
- 18:23Speaker 1: to people who would say your mom is homophobic? But
- 18:26Speaker 1: when I look at it, I say no, she's very religious.
- 18:28Speaker 1: So I think she's looking at it through the religious religion.
- 18:31Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And I think that at some point you
- 18:34Speaker 1: have to think about how you got to the place
- 18:38Speaker 1: that you are. I had a really good conversation with
- 18:40Speaker 1: my mom about even her finding religion and needing religion,
- 18:45Speaker 1: about the hurt, the disappointment in her life from her
- 18:49Speaker 1: dad and from other people in her life that led
- 18:52Speaker 1: her to needing God as much as she does and
- 18:54Speaker 1: depending on God as much she does. And we were
- 18:56Speaker 1: having a really really good conversation that my dad woke
- 18:59Speaker 1: up and interrupted. Its Yeah yeah, but you know, you
- 19:04Speaker 1: have to explore your life. You got to explore the
- 19:06Speaker 1: reasons why, because you can hurt people, like I know,
- 19:09Speaker 1: like people call it faith whatever, but they're human beings,
- 19:13Speaker 1: and like your opinion, my mother's opinion of me matters
- 19:16Speaker 1: so much. What made you want to do it now?
- 19:19Speaker 11: Well, because after I came out, I realized that there
- 19:23Speaker 11: are other things I needed to come out about. I
- 19:26Speaker 11: think everybody's in a closet about something, and I was
- 19:29Speaker 11: in a closet. It was more than just being gay.
- 19:31Speaker 11: It was about of the feelings that I have. I
- 19:34Speaker 11: was in a closet about sex, addiction, or how I
- 19:37Speaker 11: am as a friend, or all these things. Like just
- 19:39Speaker 11: like I was a closeted person. I was holding everything
- 19:42Speaker 11: inside and the show was an outlet for me. I'm
- 19:45Speaker 11: an artist, and I use art as a means of
- 19:48Speaker 11: expression and as a means to heal, and so the
- 19:52Speaker 11: show just felt like a natural. I was doing all
- 19:55Speaker 11: these shows, I was doing stand up, and stand up
- 19:57Speaker 11: started being kind of a form of therapy.
- 19:59Speaker 1: It was like reassociated therapy that would just go up
- 20:02Speaker 1: and I would talk about a problem that I have,
- 20:04Speaker 1: a deep personal problem that I have. The response from
- 20:06Speaker 1: the audience started being better. That's what I mean, Like
- 20:08Speaker 1: people coming to the shows there like like the heckles
- 20:11Speaker 1: that I get as a comedian are so thoughtful, Like
- 20:13Speaker 1: no comedian gets like the thought Like people turn into
- 20:16Speaker 1: therapists in the audience. Yeah I'm not. I watched that.
- 20:19Speaker 1: I was like, those heckles aren't real the audiences. No, No,
- 20:23Speaker 1: Like people are smart. I believe that. I believe that,
- 20:26Speaker 1: Like Twitter isn't just the that's not what the world is.
- 20:29Speaker 7: Like.
- 20:30Speaker 1: I hate it. Yeah, listen, sometimes I search your name
- 20:33Speaker 1: to make me feel better about myself. Charlemagne, I hate no,
- 20:40Speaker 1: But the heckles that I get are thoughtful responses because
- 20:44Speaker 1: you open yourself up and people open themselves up like
- 20:47Speaker 1: like they they respond in kind. And so I'm glad
- 20:51Speaker 1: you're a good friends to your friends who are expressing
- 20:53Speaker 1: themselves to you. How did you deal with the sex edition?
- 20:56Speaker 1: Sex edition? Still he's dealing with it, trying to figure
- 21:00Speaker 1: it out. I'm getting my candle every but I want
- 21:05Speaker 1: to show it shows you. You just be on grind
- 21:07Speaker 1: before your boyfriend was on grind and just that was old.
- 21:10Speaker 1: That was that had to be before your boyfriend, before
- 21:13Speaker 1: my boyfriend, and you know, like, yeah, sex sex, sex
- 21:17Speaker 1: is something else. Man, you got to keep watching the show.
- 21:20Speaker 1: You had a good explanation, though, you said, because you
- 21:22Speaker 1: waited so long to come out. Yeah, so now you
- 21:25Speaker 1: feel like a seventeen year old. Yeah, yeah, having making up,
- 21:28Speaker 1: making up for lost time, like just like yeah, they're
- 21:32Speaker 1: they're like, my emotional maturity level was a bit delayed.
- 21:37Speaker 1: That's it's a little embarrassing to admit, but true. But
- 21:40Speaker 1: even that, I do think there are certain aspects of
- 21:43Speaker 1: my personality that I inherit from my father. I've been
- 21:46Speaker 1: reading about that a lot, just like being you know,
- 21:48Speaker 1: you you learn how to be a man from your dad,
- 21:51Speaker 1: and I learned he hes gonna get mad because hes
- 21:54Speaker 1: gonna watch this, like always throwing me under the bus.
- 21:56Speaker 1: But it's just true, like it's something you learn therapy,
- 21:59Speaker 1: Like I hope this is how you model yourself as
- 22:02Speaker 1: a man. And so yeah, I look to sex as
- 22:05Speaker 1: a form of validation for my manlyhood, like to make
- 22:08Speaker 1: me feel like a man. Yeah, what did this show
- 22:11Speaker 1: doing for you that therapy can't. I've been using it
- 22:13Speaker 1: as a form of therapy because therapy is exploring yourself
- 22:17Speaker 1: and exploring your past, but it's not necessarily confrontation. I
- 22:21Speaker 1: still needed a tool to be confident enough to have
- 22:25Speaker 1: a conversation with my dad that I'd be terrified having otherwise.
- 22:28Speaker 1: Like you know, if I'm home in North Carolina, I'm
- 22:30Speaker 1: just like, you know, smiling, being a good son, being
- 22:33Speaker 1: the son that they want me to be. And I'm
- 22:35Speaker 1: not saying the real things, asking the real questions when
- 22:38Speaker 1: the camera's on. I've become like a journalist for my
- 22:41Speaker 1: own life, like no, no, no, what's that you said?
- 22:43Speaker 1: Ninety eight? You know, I get real real like but
- 22:46Speaker 1: but but without the cameras, I'm afraid you do show
- 22:50Speaker 1: how much of a friend you are too?
- 22:52Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 22:52Speaker 1: No, well you did Pool, fil I know, I know.
- 22:54Speaker 1: Can I tell your show you can't be a best
- 22:56Speaker 1: man in a wedding and show up an hour late?
- 22:58Speaker 1: Yeah to the wedding, it's not your and then compare
- 23:00Speaker 1: it to jury duty? Why? You know? Look when is
- 23:06Speaker 1: it hard? Because I'm a performer, and so I look
- 23:08Speaker 1: at weddings as a show, like, all right, what is
- 23:10Speaker 1: this show that we're going to like?
- 23:12Speaker 11: But but I love Pool and you know, I actually
- 23:16Speaker 11: got to a hit and we've been talking a lot.
- 23:17Speaker 11: I hope that he liked the episode, Like he's a
- 23:20Speaker 11: very sweet, thoughtful friend and inspired me so much, And
- 23:23Speaker 11: so I know I was a bad friend.
- 23:25Speaker 1: Again, it's hard exposed like the show. I'm like the
- 23:28Speaker 1: villain of my own show. I'm Eric Kane on my
- 23:30Speaker 1: own show. Like I'm like people are like because I'm exposed.
- 23:33Speaker 1: I'm exposing myself in a real way like the Like
- 23:36Speaker 1: some of the worst parts of myself I'm putting out
- 23:38Speaker 1: there unedited, just like letting it, let in the world
- 23:41Speaker 1: see and judge and criticize. But I feel bad for that,
- 23:45Speaker 1: Like I felt bad an episode of It's something I'm
- 23:47Speaker 1: deeply apologetic for. I'm learning, I'm still growing. I'm learning
- 23:51Speaker 1: to not be as selfish. Sure that's a means of
- 23:54Speaker 1: self protection. Like I'm selfish because I'm scared, and I'm
- 23:57Speaker 1: learning not be as afraid. I want to ask, could
- 23:59Speaker 1: you just into something? You said that you had all
- 24:01Speaker 1: of this great stuff going on before you came out.
- 24:03Speaker 1: So do you feel like coming out as gay is
- 24:05Speaker 1: taking away the focus on on everything you've done in
- 24:09Speaker 1: your career? Show still exists, streaming on who I google you,
- 24:13Speaker 1: what's gonna come up to the same way you said
- 24:15Speaker 1: if you google Dave, it's all transgender stuffing I'm talking about.
- 24:19Speaker 1: Watch the show. I hope people watch the show. Like
- 24:20Speaker 1: if you if you see the show, you'll see the truth.
- 24:22Speaker 12: You know.
- 24:23Speaker 11: I'm confident in that, Like you know, I think this,
- 24:25Speaker 11: Like up top, I was just upset because something untrue
- 24:28Speaker 11: was I say enough true things to talk about, so
- 24:31Speaker 11: I don't need any lies.
- 24:32Speaker 1: I don't need any of that. But yeah, I'm I'm
- 24:36Speaker 1: making art about my life and and I'm really proud
- 24:38Speaker 1: of it. I hope people watch the show. I think
- 24:40Speaker 1: the show is funny, kind of funny. Funny like man.
- 24:45Speaker 1: Y'all so straight, So Paul's funny like Jesus Christ, you
- 24:53Speaker 1: are so straight to congratulations Jesus Michael. Ladies and brought
- 25:07Speaker 1: you a candle.
- 25:13Speaker 5: And I can check out the reality show Fridays on
- 25:15Speaker 5: HBO Match.
- 25:16Speaker 1: Thank you, brother for joining us. Thanks for having me
- 25:19Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same.
- 25:23Speaker 1: Good morning.
- 25:23Speaker 5: Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess, Larry and Charlamagne the Guy.
- 25:27Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. Jess is out.
- 25:30Speaker 5: Now we're asking this. I've seen this on Hollywood on Locked.
- 25:32Speaker 5: Eight hundred five eight five one oh five to one.
- 25:35Speaker 5: What are you starting to dislike more as you get older?
- 25:38Speaker 5: That is the question again, eight hundred five eight five
- 25:40Speaker 5: one oh five one. What are you starting to dislike
- 25:42Speaker 5: more as you get older?
- 25:43Speaker 1: Well, suo, Hollywood Unlocked, my guy, Jason Lee, let me
- 25:47Speaker 1: read some of the coms before you get in New yorrks. Okay.
- 25:49Speaker 5: Somebody said plastic surgery lips. Somebody said loud unnecessary noises.
- 25:54Speaker 5: That seems like the biggest ones, loud, loud people noise.
- 25:58Speaker 5: I might said the general public. Somebody said people. Somebody
- 26:02Speaker 5: said humans. Somebody said being out too late, now, being
- 26:05Speaker 5: out too late is one.
- 26:06Speaker 1: Now I've been off. It gets to a certain time
- 26:08Speaker 1: and I just doug get tired. I don't even know
- 26:10Speaker 1: what that being out too late. I've been off that.
- 26:12Speaker 10: Like.
- 26:12Speaker 1: I like things that start early and in early, like
- 26:15Speaker 1: if I can be there at seven thirty, you know,
- 26:17Speaker 1: Like like my guy Stephen Corbet, they had a birthday
- 26:19Speaker 1: party for him this weekend. It started at seven thirty,
- 26:21Speaker 1: ten o'clock, ten thirty, I was out, you know what
- 26:24Speaker 1: I'm saying. We home by eleven eleven fifteen. We watched
- 26:27Speaker 1: the movie Saturday Night. That was a great Saturday night.
- 26:30Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. That's my type of night.
- 26:32Speaker 1: My thing is man alcohol in humans, right, Like I
- 26:36Speaker 1: used to have a very high tolerance for alcohol. We
- 26:38Speaker 1: used to get so drunk. But over the years, you know,
- 26:41Speaker 1: that has just gone away to the point where like, well,
- 26:44Speaker 1: when I'm out now, I could do a glass of
- 26:47Speaker 1: wine and be good if I do. If I do
- 26:50Speaker 1: two regular drinks at tequila, Like I'm just talking about
- 26:53Speaker 1: neat tequila with two ice cubes and a slice of
- 26:56Speaker 1: orange juice. Two drinks, the recovery time is too much.
- 27:00Speaker 1: I can't. I can't just get up the next day
- 27:01Speaker 1: and function like it takes me twenty four to thirty
- 27:04Speaker 1: six hours to recover from that. Yeah, for me, it's
- 27:07Speaker 1: it's I say, social media, I've been off that. Yeah.
- 27:10Speaker 5: As I get older now and I don't even I
- 27:12Speaker 5: don't even tap into it to I say, going out.
- 27:16Speaker 5: I used to be the go out king every night.
- 27:19Speaker 5: Now what if I'm home, I want to stay home
- 27:21Speaker 5: if somebody calls me, I have to leave my house.
- 27:25Speaker 5: It's a bunch of questions.
- 27:25Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's a bunch of questions. And when I say humans, man,
- 27:28Speaker 1: what I mean by humans? When I say I'm tired
- 27:30Speaker 1: of humans? I am tired of proving yourself as a friend. So,
- 27:36Speaker 1: for example, you can have friends that you've been friends
- 27:39Speaker 1: with for years, but you know your friends right and
- 27:41Speaker 1: you know that you know they get upset over small
- 27:45Speaker 1: things in life. It come a certain point after why
- 27:48Speaker 1: we are too old for that. So if you don't
- 27:50Speaker 1: know who I am by now and you constantly get
- 27:53Speaker 1: upset over little small things or because you feel slighted,
- 27:57Speaker 1: or because you didn't get what you want from me,
- 27:59Speaker 1: that's the other thing that people don't realize. It's not
- 28:02Speaker 1: really your friend. If the first time they don't get
- 28:04Speaker 1: what they want from you, you know, they get upset.
- 28:08Speaker 1: I don't have time for those kind of relationships at all,
- 28:10Speaker 1: Relationships that you got to walk on the eggshells with
- 28:13Speaker 1: none whatsoever.
- 28:14Speaker 8: Somebody said bills in the comments.
- 28:16Speaker 1: Oh, we ain't never like those, But guess what, that's
- 28:17Speaker 1: part of adult and you ain't got no choice. You
- 28:19Speaker 1: ain't got no choice for that.
- 28:21Speaker 8: I'm trying to say.
- 28:21Speaker 1: Somebody somebody said, nicks. As they get older, they tired
- 28:24Speaker 1: of knicks. Well, it's the same thing as humans. It's
- 28:27Speaker 1: not the same thing. It's the same thing. And one
- 28:29Speaker 1: other person said traffic. Nothing you can do about another.
- 28:31Speaker 1: But now, but see for traffic.
- 28:32Speaker 5: Now, when when you when you start get a little older,
- 28:35Speaker 5: you start planning to avoid traffic. You'd be like, all right,
- 28:37Speaker 5: if I leave the city at this time, I ain't
- 28:38Speaker 5: got traffic. If I come into the city at this time,
- 28:40Speaker 5: man got traffic. So it's the same thing. But let's
- 28:43Speaker 5: go to the phone lines. Eight hundred five eight five,
- 28:45Speaker 5: one oh five one. We got Tanya on the line
- 28:48Speaker 5: this morning. Good morning, how are you feeling, Tanya?
- 28:50Speaker 6: I'm good?
- 28:51Speaker 1: How are you good? Now?
- 28:53Speaker 8: What are you starting to dislike more as you get older.
- 28:55Speaker 6: People don't take the shower.
- 28:57Speaker 4: Okay, you talk to work mad o, the cool man,
- 29:01Speaker 4: just take the shower.
- 29:02Speaker 1: We don't like he's out like that though.
- 29:04Speaker 6: I was talking about he put the shower at night
- 29:07Speaker 6: and he happy.
- 29:08Speaker 4: He's not happy.
- 29:09Speaker 1: Yeah, well you gotta take a boat. You gotta take
- 29:11Speaker 1: a shower in the morning. Man, watch that night off.
- 29:14Speaker 6: He's a grown man talking about he's so good.
- 29:18Speaker 1: No wash that night off.
- 29:19Speaker 7: Man.
- 29:19Speaker 1: Same way, you gotta watch that day off. You gotta
- 29:21Speaker 1: watch that night off and you wake up in the morning. Hello,
- 29:23Speaker 1: who's this this ship?
- 29:25Speaker 4: From the Being Shut State podcast?
- 29:27Speaker 1: What's up? Chap? What are you talking to?
- 29:29Speaker 5: Just like more as you get older, man, I hate
- 29:31Speaker 5: going out, bro, like just being around people and stuff
- 29:35Speaker 5: like that.
- 29:36Speaker 4: We went to the Black Sake Podcast Festival. It started early,
- 29:40Speaker 4: it ended at a good time. It wasn't a lot
- 29:42Speaker 4: of people, bro. We was out of there on the
- 29:44Speaker 4: good turb Bro. I just don't like going out to
- 29:46Speaker 4: be an outlet.
- 29:47Speaker 1: Well it was it was a couple of thousand people, sir.
- 29:49Speaker 1: So what do you mean it wasn't a lot of people.
- 29:52Speaker 4: No, it wasn't wall the wall or like yeah, it
- 29:55Speaker 4: was comfortable.
- 29:57Speaker 1: It was comfortable now yeah.
- 29:59Speaker 4: And then we got out of that. A good time, broo,
- 30:01Speaker 4: A good time to get started to eat, get it fit.
- 30:03Speaker 1: Let me tell you something they told me while we
- 30:05Speaker 1: were sitting backstated they was like, you know, the run
- 30:07Speaker 1: time until eight o'clock. I'm like, ain't no way, ain't nowhere,
- 30:11Speaker 1: ain't no way to run time gonna beat there no
- 30:13Speaker 1: eight o'clock. That's why we got about that, like six
- 30:15Speaker 1: thirty seven. But it's funny that you say that. That's
- 30:18Speaker 1: why what I do.
- 30:18Speaker 5: My car shows at twelve to five, five o'clock early
- 30:22Speaker 5: while we start unloading them cars. People got things to do. Man,
- 30:25Speaker 5: nobody want to be on that late man. Absolutely right.
- 30:28Speaker 5: Eight hundred five A five one oh five to one.
- 30:30Speaker 5: We're asking what are you starting to dislike more as
- 30:33Speaker 5: you get older. I've seen this topic on our Hollywood
- 30:35Speaker 5: or locks loot to them, and that's what we're asking.
- 30:37Speaker 5: Eight hundred five A five one oh five one. It's
- 30:39Speaker 5: the Breakfast Clug Morning, the Breakfast Club.
- 30:44Speaker 8: Owing everybody.
- 30:45Speaker 5: It's DJ n Vjesseelari Charlamage, the Gud We are the
- 30:48Speaker 5: Breakfast Club.
- 30:49Speaker 1: We got some special guests in the building from.
- 30:51Speaker 5: The Not All Hood podcast, we have Malcolm Jamore Warner.
- 30:55Speaker 5: Where you see Baraka and Candice Kelly. Welcome, thank you, hey,
- 31:00Speaker 5: get to see you.
- 31:00Speaker 1: How the brothers and sister feeling good life It's good yeah,
- 31:04Speaker 1: good morning. Yeah, that's about here, y'all just moved into
- 31:09Speaker 1: It was the first interview in our new studio. That's right. Wow, man,
- 31:12Speaker 1: I love the name not All Hood. Nah. Who came
- 31:16Speaker 1: up with that? That was what you'll see?
- 31:17Speaker 13: Yeah, I don't even remember for real, for real, Like
- 31:21Speaker 13: I was just like, uh nah, Like Malcolm, I have
- 31:23Speaker 13: been talking about just the concept of the podcast and
- 31:26Speaker 13: how the diversity and who we are and also who
- 31:30Speaker 13: we're not, right, So I.
- 31:32Speaker 1: Was like, nah, nah, Yeah, it feels like that when
- 31:36Speaker 1: somebody say all black people from the hood. Nah exactly.
- 31:40Speaker 5: It's a term hood negative though when people say hood
- 31:43Speaker 5: sometimes it comes off as negative.
- 31:44Speaker 1: I don't take it as a negative term. Is it
- 31:46Speaker 1: a negative term?
- 31:46Speaker 7: No?
- 31:47Speaker 10: And I think you know, part of the you know,
- 31:49Speaker 10: the idea of not All Hood is hood is not
- 31:52Speaker 10: a negative term. Hood is part of the community. Like
- 31:56Speaker 10: when we speak of the black community, we always tend
- 31:59Speaker 10: to refer to it as if it's a monol, that's right.
- 32:02Speaker 1: But there are all these different.
- 32:03Speaker 10: Lanes to the Black community, all these levels, all these
- 32:06Speaker 10: different lanes, and oftentimes we don't have a space where
- 32:11Speaker 10: we can actually you know, discuss, acknowledge and deal with
- 32:15Speaker 10: with all of those levels, all those lanes.
- 32:17Speaker 1: So the hood is not a bad thing. Yes, we
- 32:19Speaker 1: are hood, but we're not.
- 32:21Speaker 10: All hood and the media, and I think part of
- 32:23Speaker 10: it is the media tends to put more focus on
- 32:27Speaker 10: one aspect of the Black community. Thus we get all
- 32:30Speaker 10: the stereotypes and preconceived ideas, and.
- 32:33Speaker 1: Hood comes from like neighborhood.
- 32:36Speaker 12: I did get that question a lot though you have
- 32:38Speaker 12: being a podcast.
- 32:39Speaker 1: Isn't hood negative?
- 32:40Speaker 12: So I understand where you're coming from. But just like
- 32:42Speaker 12: they said, it's a neighborhood. I mean, I live in
- 32:45Speaker 12: a place where I'm next to a lot of Indian neighborhood,
- 32:48Speaker 12: Jewish neighborhood.
- 32:49Speaker 1: You can still call it the hood.
- 32:51Speaker 12: People also associate the word hood were just us, which yeah,
- 32:56Speaker 12: we're black.
- 32:57Speaker 1: So it's just one of those things.
- 32:58Speaker 12: It's it's kind of some damage that the media, the
- 33:01Speaker 12: pop culture, the.
- 33:02Speaker 1: News has done and really trying to define who we are. Yeah,
- 33:05Speaker 1: I never took it as as negative.
- 33:07Speaker 5: It was always on going back to the hood to me,
- 33:08Speaker 5: and I'm going back home to my neighborhood, right exactly
- 33:10Speaker 5: whoever it was, I'm going to play basketball in the hood,
- 33:12Speaker 5: which was my neighborhood, you know.
- 33:14Speaker 8: I mean, I never took it as oh my gosh,
- 33:15Speaker 8: it's a place.
- 33:16Speaker 1: No.
- 33:16Speaker 5: I never took it as that. I know a lot
- 33:18Speaker 5: of people do, But that was always just like going home,
- 33:20Speaker 5: you know. Yeah, yeah, what are some of the topics
- 33:22Speaker 5: you guys will be discussing.
- 33:24Speaker 1: Black fatherhood.
- 33:27Speaker 13: Being older fathers with younger children.
- 33:31Speaker 8: Yeah, how you guys handling that?
- 33:34Speaker 1: Yo? What older? Your youngest?
- 33:37Speaker 5: So youngest only one? We only have one because I
- 33:40Speaker 5: got a two year old, so Luke, and then I
- 33:43Speaker 5: got a twenty two year.
- 33:48Speaker 1: Nine year old.
- 33:49Speaker 5: Yeah, I got six, he got four, six and a
- 33:52Speaker 5: couple of weeks my youngest two.
- 33:54Speaker 1: I got a two year old, five year old, year
- 33:56Speaker 1: old and fifteen. Yeah. Yeah, so y'all started around when
- 33:59Speaker 1: we started. Yeah, I'm fifty three and my daughter just
- 34:02Speaker 1: turned seven. Okay, Okay, So our whole conversation.
- 34:07Speaker 13: Talking about yeah, like those those days where they be
- 34:10Speaker 13: on go go, you know what I mean, And you
- 34:12Speaker 13: gotta just wrap your energy up and make it happen.
- 34:14Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Crazy you say that. My
- 34:15Speaker 1: homeboy told me that a long time ago. You know,
- 34:17Speaker 1: all my homeboys had kids way younger than I did.
- 34:20Speaker 1: And he was like, man, you're gonna wait till you
- 34:21Speaker 1: thirty plus forty to have kids. You're gonna be running around,
- 34:24Speaker 1: your needs gonna be hurting, like, no, we won't.
- 34:26Speaker 12: Yes, they are exactly, But doesn't some good come with that?
- 34:30Speaker 12: You being older so speak Yeah, you know, being a
- 34:33Speaker 12: father and not being twenty one, I've been having growth
- 34:36Speaker 12: yourself that you have to go through.
- 34:38Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my last my two youngest get a version
- 34:41Speaker 1: of me that did not exist right ten years ago,
- 34:44Speaker 1: ten years ago, you know, yeah, yeah.
- 34:46Speaker 10: I spent more of my adult life in long term relationship,
- 34:52Speaker 10: more years of my adult life and long term relationships
- 34:55Speaker 10: than not. My wife and I have been together eight
- 34:58Speaker 10: and a half years, not more than two days to
- 35:01Speaker 10: go by. That I don't give thanks to the universe
- 35:04Speaker 10: for giving me the wisdom and forder to have waited
- 35:07Speaker 10: as long as they did.
- 35:08Speaker 1: A lot of people are like, he's never gonna get married,
- 35:10Speaker 1: And I think at some point I probably thought like
- 35:12Speaker 1: we used to have these conversations like, Yo, they're looking
- 35:14Speaker 1: at us like we you know, damnage goods, Like you
- 35:16Speaker 1: mean you thirty down and you don't got no kids,
- 35:19Speaker 1: not married? He got a problem. Yeah, I mean it's
- 35:22Speaker 1: the best thing, and for me, it's the best thing.
- 35:24Speaker 10: For I would not have I definitely would not have
- 35:26Speaker 10: been as effective a husband and father had I done
- 35:30Speaker 10: this any earlier with anybody else.
- 35:33Speaker 1: That is such a great conversation you never hear men have,
- 35:35Speaker 1: Like that's a conversation you always hear, you know, women have.
- 35:38Speaker 1: But so so you actually waited, like you were actually
- 35:41Speaker 1: waiting for the right how many bullets since thirteen on TV?
- 35:52Speaker 1: Since thirteen? You know, I neeled my way out of
- 35:58Speaker 1: the lot. But your circumstance was different, though, because you
- 36:02Speaker 1: didn't know if people wanted to be with you already
- 36:04Speaker 1: wanted to be with you know what I mean.
- 36:06Speaker 10: There was that because I've been doing it for so long,
- 36:09Speaker 10: I've been really blessed with a great sense of discernment.
- 36:13Speaker 1: So that was never my issue. To be completely transparent.
- 36:18Speaker 10: My thing about marriage was like, Yo, I'm not getting
- 36:21Speaker 10: married and then given a check half.
- 36:23Speaker 1: Of my stuff because I messed up.
- 36:26Speaker 10: So I was very clear that even though the threose
- 36:29Speaker 10: situations that you know, really you know, pressuring if you will,
- 36:34Speaker 10: you know, like that kind of marriage, I was like, nah,
- 36:38Speaker 10: because I knew me. I knew that I wasn't going
- 36:40Speaker 10: to because I wasn't I wasn't given half of my
- 36:42Speaker 10: trap because was I messed up about you.
- 36:46Speaker 13: It was about just being patient, like I know me
- 36:49Speaker 13: and I know that, like everybody's gonna be able to
- 36:51Speaker 13: deal with me as a community organizer who really understands
- 36:54Speaker 13: that the people around me that are close to me
- 36:56Speaker 13: are gonna be okay. My work in life is to
- 37:00Speaker 13: make sure that other people are gonna be okay. So
- 37:02Speaker 13: sometimes I'm a little hard on them, people that are close. Right,
- 37:04Speaker 13: I'm gonna get out and like they're gonna have to
- 37:06Speaker 13: take a back seat sometimes, Right. That was part of it,
- 37:08Speaker 13: And the big part was like raising my child, the
- 37:11Speaker 13: idea of like me getting married and having a child.
- 37:13Speaker 1: You gotta be special, man, We're you got to be special.
- 37:17Speaker 1: So I love you, Shelley. Yeah.
- 37:21Speaker 12: With one show where we have these two and Lamar
- 37:24Speaker 12: Rucker and I just sit back and I listen, it's
- 37:26Speaker 12: like there could be some people that are taking notes,
- 37:28Speaker 12: some women that are taking notes because they really I
- 37:30Speaker 12: was like, this is some good, Like you said, I
- 37:33Speaker 12: don't hear that a lot, just talking about fatherhood and
- 37:38Speaker 12: just the humility and how proud they are, and then
- 37:41Speaker 12: all the rules and lessons that they learned and a
- 37:43Speaker 12: long way while they were dating.
- 37:46Speaker 1: Yeah, it really was no taking moment. It was good.
- 37:48Speaker 1: You guys have.
- 37:49Speaker 8: Boys or girls? Girls say oh yeah yeah, girl, Well.
- 37:52Speaker 12: Said that was kind of suspect.
- 37:54Speaker 1: Girls different. It's way different. He has four girl I
- 38:00Speaker 1: got full you know, you know I love it. Yeah yeah,
- 38:03Speaker 1: I love it and I deserve.
- 38:04Speaker 4: It, you know.
- 38:05Speaker 1: They say, yeah, yeah, yeah, all of it. How does
- 38:10Speaker 1: that change you?
- 38:11Speaker 8: Having girls?
- 38:11Speaker 5: I got four girls, Charlamagne as four girls? How does
- 38:13Speaker 5: that change you as a father? I got two boys too, though,
- 38:16Speaker 5: but the girls changeing.
- 38:17Speaker 10: So I asked the universe for a girl first. Even
- 38:21Speaker 10: before conception, we were very clear we were having a girl.
- 38:24Speaker 10: And I know that I needed a girl first to
- 38:26Speaker 10: kind of ease me into it because I have a
- 38:29Speaker 10: pretty good idea of what kind of father I would be.
- 38:31Speaker 1: So I needed a girl to kind of slow me
- 38:33Speaker 1: down and warm and softs me up. If you will.
- 38:36Speaker 10: So for me raising my daughter, I came into fatherhood
- 38:40Speaker 10: already with a certain maturity, you know, certain understanding of
- 38:45Speaker 10: male female dynamics and with a girl, all of that
- 38:49Speaker 10: starts with the father. For me, the biggest gift that
- 38:53Speaker 10: I can give my daughter is a sense of self.
- 38:56Speaker 10: So when she goes out into the world, she is
- 38:59Speaker 10: not easy influenced by her surrounding. Right, So since she
- 39:03Speaker 10: was like two years old, you know, someone says to her, Oh,
- 39:06Speaker 10: you're so pretty, you're so cute, you're so beautiful, She'll
- 39:09Speaker 10: say thank you.
- 39:09Speaker 1: When I'm smart too. That's how we run it.
- 39:12Speaker 10: Like, that's the normalization I want her to have in
- 39:15Speaker 10: terms of how she sees herself in characters.
- 39:17Speaker 13: Absolutely, yeah, way, same thing. Like you know, it's a
- 39:20Speaker 13: humbling space. Giving my daughter like a different kind of
- 39:23Speaker 13: vocabulary that's empowering to her so that when she interacts,
- 39:27Speaker 13: she knows she she walks and talks from posician power.
- 39:30Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know, can you speak of that candidatey Yeah.
- 39:33Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 39:33Speaker 1: I come from a.
- 39:33Speaker 12: Family of three girls. All everything that he poured into me.
- 39:38Speaker 12: And you know, sometimes you're doing something and you're like, ooh,
- 39:40Speaker 12: that's my dad.
- 39:41Speaker 1: What I did right there. That's my mom.
- 39:43Speaker 12: Like you can you know when they've poured into it,
- 39:45Speaker 12: when you see you doing things that are just like
- 39:48Speaker 12: what they did and you don't even realize it. So
- 39:51Speaker 12: you don't even realize what the kids see and don't see.
- 39:54Speaker 12: But really, my parents really allowed me to see all
- 39:57Speaker 12: of the right things.
- 39:57Speaker 1: They really did.
- 39:58Speaker 5: We got more with Malcolm, Jamaal Warner, Candace Kelly and
- 40:01Speaker 5: why you See Baraka?
- 40:02Speaker 1: When we come back from the No Podcast. It's the
- 40:05Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.
- 40:05Speaker 5: Good Morning, Everybody's dj n V, Jesse Larie Chalamae, the
- 40:09Speaker 5: guy we are the Breakfast Club is still kicking them
- 40:11Speaker 5: with Malcolm, Jamore Warner, Candace Kelly and why you See Baraka?
- 40:14Speaker 1: From the Not Oldhood podcast. Charlamone talking about you afraid
- 40:17Speaker 1: of being too honest and too vulnerable on these podcasts
- 40:20Speaker 1: because in this era people get very loose. Yeah, we've seen. Yeah,
- 40:25Speaker 1: if people have a certain image of you, do you
- 40:27Speaker 1: even care about that? That's so it's interesting. So you know,
- 40:30Speaker 1: I've said that in interviews that this is, you know,
- 40:32Speaker 1: the most vulnerable.
- 40:33Speaker 7: Uh.
- 40:33Speaker 10: And I've always been pretty transparent in my art, in
- 40:36Speaker 10: my poetry and music, but I don't I don't worry
- 40:39Speaker 10: about it. I got a good taste of it just
- 40:42Speaker 10: this week because we had our you know, first episode
- 40:44Speaker 10: dropped on Monday, and we were having conversation about the
- 40:47Speaker 10: N word, and I had a you know, I mixed
- 40:50Speaker 10: J Cole. Is really interesting how many people were not
- 40:54Speaker 10: listening to what I was saying and to my comments
- 40:57Speaker 10: as I was, you know, I was hating on J Cole.
- 41:01Speaker 1: So it's things like that. And then the way the Instagram,
- 41:05Speaker 1: the art of dialogue and other Yeah, the way they
- 41:08Speaker 1: worded that's the where we in, right, So it was.
- 41:11Speaker 10: Like, oh, right, this is the reason why I stopped
- 41:14Speaker 10: commenting on i G first thing in the morning.
- 41:17Speaker 1: Malcolm says he stopped listening to J Cole.
- 41:20Speaker 8: Yeah, let's play the people undertake.
- 41:24Speaker 1: Like, what what are you talking about? You playing it
- 41:25Speaker 1: in context?
- 41:26Speaker 8: In context, because I'm sure you don't have to clip off.
- 41:28Speaker 1: You have a clip for me.
- 41:30Speaker 10: In hip hop, I think the word is I think
- 41:33Speaker 10: should be this should be a moratorium on both of
- 41:35Speaker 10: those words in hip hop because it's low lying. Fruit
- 41:39Speaker 10: is so easy. Everybody does it to the point that
- 41:42Speaker 10: it's corny, Like they're mcens who I love, who I
- 41:46Speaker 10: cannot listen to anymore because I can't. I love J Cole,
- 41:51Speaker 10: but I had to stop listening to J Cole because
- 41:53Speaker 10: I got tired of hearing as much as because he's
- 41:57Speaker 10: proven himself to be such an incredible lyricist that you.
- 42:02Speaker 12: Think it's if you think it's just too low hanging
- 42:05Speaker 12: fruit for him to use those words.
- 42:06Speaker 10: I feel like with with the gratuitousness that he and
- 42:12Speaker 10: the regularity that he does for me, but as an artist,
- 42:16Speaker 10: it feels lazy. And I love J Cole, dig It,
- 42:20Speaker 10: dig It, so so many people, you know, they just
- 42:24Speaker 10: ignore the fact that I said I love J Cole,
- 42:27Speaker 10: and I said that most of my favorite MC's you know,
- 42:31Speaker 10: are guilty of the same thing we're talking about, you know,
- 42:33Speaker 10: perpetuating anti.
- 42:34Speaker 1: Black messaging in our black music. So that was really
- 42:38Speaker 1: my point. Yeah, I don't understand that. That's when they
- 42:40Speaker 1: lose me. How is that anti? How is the N
- 42:42Speaker 1: word saying you don't like the N word anti black messaging?
- 42:46Speaker 1: Isn't the N word anti black? That's what I'm saying.
- 42:48Speaker 10: My perspective is so much of our black music today,
- 42:52Speaker 10: like you take the dope beats away and you just
- 42:54Speaker 10: listen to the lyrics. Lyrically, it's anti black, you know
- 42:58Speaker 10: what I'm saying. And we talked about, you know, so
- 43:01Speaker 10: much of you know, hip hop today that's trash and whatnot.
- 43:05Speaker 10: But you know, as I said before, they grew up
- 43:09Speaker 10: listening to what we were listening to. Right, So we
- 43:11Speaker 10: are complicit in, you know, the parts of hip hop
- 43:14Speaker 10: today that we don't like because they grew up listening
- 43:17Speaker 10: to us. Listening listening to the content is the same.
- 43:20Speaker 10: The skill set is just whack. That's true, right, which
- 43:23Speaker 10: is what makes it stand out.
- 43:24Speaker 13: And also they didn't listen to what we were listening to.
- 43:27Speaker 13: We listened to music when there was more than just
- 43:29Speaker 13: hip hop. Hip hop was not the juggernaut of music
- 43:32Speaker 13: that it is now. Like we like, yeah, you know,
- 43:35Speaker 13: like we was rocking to s Hall notes, right, you
- 43:39Speaker 13: know what I mean the eighties. Yeah, Like we had
- 43:41Speaker 13: these a lot of other influences that I think the
- 43:45Speaker 13: youth of today don't necessarily have.
- 43:47Speaker 1: Yeah, turns of balance. Yeah. Would you say J Cole
- 43:49Speaker 1: had the anti black message?
- 43:50Speaker 10: No, so so for me, because it has become the
- 43:54Speaker 10: staple and hip hop like it's got to be. That's
- 43:56Speaker 10: why I said in that clip. I think there should
- 43:58Speaker 10: be a moratorium on both of those works in hip
- 44:00Speaker 10: hop because at this point, it's corny, it's lazy.
- 44:04Speaker 1: Everybody is using it.
- 44:05Speaker 10: So let's like, you know, there are so many brilliant
- 44:08Speaker 10: writers and lyricists out there that it's like, come on,
- 44:11Speaker 10: let's let's let's stop our game. We don't have to
- 44:12Speaker 10: keep doing If everybody's doing it, then come on do
- 44:15Speaker 10: something different, you know. So my thing with with with
- 44:18Speaker 10: Ja Cole it just I just got to a point
- 44:20Speaker 10: where I got tired of hearing inward and being called
- 44:24Speaker 10: inWORD in every hip hop song I'm listening to. And
- 44:27Speaker 10: I mentioned J Cole because I love J Cole and
- 44:31Speaker 10: he's such and an incredible lyricist that when I hear
- 44:34Speaker 10: him just gratuitously use either those words, I'm like, ah,
- 44:37Speaker 10: I mean kind of a tune out doesn't mean doesn't
- 44:41Speaker 10: mean I like J Cole or respect his pen game
- 44:44Speaker 10: any less. I just go, all right, I'm kind of
- 44:47Speaker 10: I got to tune out because it's not bringing you,
- 44:49Speaker 10: it's not feeding me.
- 44:50Speaker 1: But I also think I have a notion too, right,
- 44:52Speaker 1: I went to Hampton. When I used to drive to Hampton.
- 44:54Speaker 1: I'm listening to Norm because it's keeping me up.
- 44:55Speaker 4: What what what?
- 44:56Speaker 8: And I'm thinking I'm the biggest what.
- 45:00Speaker 1: But then when you get a little older.
- 45:01Speaker 8: You'd be like, that's a little noise.
- 45:03Speaker 1: Right, let me talk about something like listening to it
- 45:06Speaker 1: when I'm working out from the south, like workout everything.
- 45:09Speaker 5: Yeah, but I also grew up on Goodie Mob, you know,
- 45:13Speaker 5: and I think we've got more of a balance right
- 45:15Speaker 5: as we get older than one we've got, we've been
- 45:16Speaker 5: exposed to more music.
- 45:17Speaker 13: It's it's a little different now, you know. I mean,
- 45:19Speaker 13: like they still in the in the throes of what's hot.
- 45:21Speaker 13: The how we access music is different now because they're
- 45:24Speaker 13: just like yo, you know, point click, not necessarily about
- 45:26Speaker 13: what's on the radio. It's about what they want to
- 45:28Speaker 13: listen to, which is and they've got direct access to that.
- 45:32Speaker 4: You know.
- 45:32Speaker 1: Don't want to ask from a woman's perspective, you know
- 45:34Speaker 1: what I find interesting, right? You know, we have these conversations,
- 45:37Speaker 1: but I will never forget Snoop Dogg and DMX's versus.
- 45:40Speaker 1: When they did their versus, I think it was during
- 45:41Speaker 1: COVID and I remember thinking, oh, this is going to
- 45:44Speaker 1: night that boy they finally listened to Snoop and DMX
- 45:47Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a woke cancel fest on Twitter.
- 45:50Speaker 1: But there was people in the comments, the same people
- 45:52Speaker 1: I usually see trying to cancel people loving it. But
- 45:55Speaker 1: how does that make you feel? Knowing you came up
- 45:57Speaker 1: in that era of the nineties is a conflicting No,
- 46:01Speaker 1: not at all.
- 46:01Speaker 12: And I'm right in the middle with them in terms
- 46:03Speaker 12: of number one, the N word and just this whole
- 46:05Speaker 12: idea of music and what it represents, because I love
- 46:08Speaker 12: Wutang and when I listen to them, I get like
- 46:11Speaker 12: a good energy out, not just work out, but when
- 46:13Speaker 12: something goes wrong sometimes that music allows you to let
- 46:16Speaker 12: stuff out, you know that you just couldn't get out
- 46:19Speaker 12: in the day when you're with your peers or when
- 46:21Speaker 12: you're on the streets, you just in the car loud
- 46:24Speaker 12: with it. And then I also think it's how were
- 46:27Speaker 12: we brought up and what do we bring to the table.
- 46:29Speaker 12: So the N word, for example, I don't know how
- 46:31Speaker 12: you were introduced to it, ever, but that's shaped probably
- 46:35Speaker 12: what the word means to you, and same with me
- 46:37Speaker 12: probably saying to you. And we all have different things
- 46:39Speaker 12: that we bring to the table, just culturally, and I
- 46:42Speaker 12: think that just shifts, and I'm a firm believer in
- 46:44Speaker 12: the First Amendment, like all the way, because once you
- 46:46Speaker 12: start saying no here and no here, then I'm giving
- 46:50Speaker 12: somebody else the authority to say no to me one
- 46:52Speaker 12: day too.
- 46:53Speaker 1: And I don't want that precedent.
- 46:54Speaker 12: I don't want them saying, well, you can't say this
- 46:57Speaker 12: and you can't say that just because of the content
- 47:00Speaker 12: of it or the context of it.
- 47:02Speaker 1: We don't like it at all.
- 47:03Speaker 12: It's like when they try to bring up brack lyrics
- 47:05Speaker 12: when they go to jail in court, right, I mean,
- 47:07Speaker 12: that doesn't make any sense. We all have the same
- 47:10Speaker 12: equal First Amendment rights and you should fight for them
- 47:12Speaker 12: and use them equally.
- 47:14Speaker 5: We got more with Malcolm, Jamol Warner, Candace Kelly and
- 47:16Speaker 5: while you see Baraka.
- 47:18Speaker 8: When we come back from the NOD podcast.
- 47:20Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.
- 47:20Speaker 5: Good Morning Morning, Everybody's DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Chelamage to God.
- 47:25Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club.
- 47:26Speaker 5: We're still kicking them with Malcolm, Jamaol Warner, Candace Kelly
- 47:28Speaker 5: and while you see Baraka from the Not Old Hood podcast,
- 47:31Speaker 5: let me ask you a question. Yeah, TikToker, you got
- 47:33Speaker 5: seen online. She said the n word, right, she got
- 47:36Speaker 5: fired from her regular job.
- 47:37Speaker 1: Oh, this was the girl who was cooking that young lady. Yes,
- 47:40Speaker 1: and in her comments she was also white by the way. Yes,
- 47:43Speaker 1: but that's a clinical thought. That's a critical context.
- 47:47Speaker 8: But this is where I'm gonna close with.
- 47:49Speaker 5: She said on her TikTok that she didn't apologize because
- 47:51Speaker 5: it was her first right amendment to say what she
- 47:53Speaker 5: wanted to say, and she shouldn't have got fired.
- 47:55Speaker 8: What's your thoughts on somebody like that? It is her
- 47:57Speaker 8: first right amendment?
- 47:58Speaker 1: Yeah, but then there are three to for rules.
- 48:00Speaker 12: There's First Amendment rules on TikTok, there's First Amendment rules
- 48:03Speaker 12: at her work, and then there's her own rules of
- 48:05Speaker 12: what she believes about the in word, and all of
- 48:07Speaker 12: them conflicted, and.
- 48:08Speaker 1: She got exactly what she deserves. She didn't. Then that's
- 48:10Speaker 1: what happened. That's why you do have to be careful
- 48:13Speaker 1: with it. You can't be on TikTok saying it. I mean,
- 48:15Speaker 1: this is a good examples.
- 48:17Speaker 2: No person, No, no, you can't.
- 48:19Speaker 12: So you just have to really understand how to use
- 48:21Speaker 12: the First Amendment to So for example, if you the KKK,
- 48:24Speaker 12: you can walk march anywhere in America.
- 48:26Speaker 1: You just have to get the permit. You can't walk
- 48:29Speaker 1: on your own.
- 48:30Speaker 5: You have to follow the rules.
- 48:31Speaker 1: She didn't follow the rules. She didn't follow her own
- 48:34Speaker 1: HR rules at work, and that was her problem. That's right.
- 48:42Speaker 5: Like you said, it's also where you came from, right,
- 48:45Speaker 5: because the N word was a sign of endearment.
- 48:48Speaker 1: Sure, yes, it was that.
- 48:51Speaker 8: You know, you really didn't hear the.
- 48:53Speaker 5: Extremes of it until I went to Hampton in the South,
- 48:56Speaker 5: and you'll be like, oh no, they're not saying it.
- 48:57Speaker 1: As right, right, right, right.
- 49:01Speaker 7: Right.
- 49:01Speaker 8: It's a different way.
- 49:02Speaker 13: And that's sort of been part, you know, part of
- 49:03Speaker 13: my argument for a lot of people it's a term
- 49:06Speaker 13: of endearment, like it's love. There are more interactions that
- 49:09Speaker 13: are using the word that are about love and they
- 49:11Speaker 13: are about disrespect. So you know, and yes, we know
- 49:14Speaker 13: the history of it, we also know that that's mine.
- 49:18Speaker 13: You also said, we showed our culture out hip hop
- 49:22Speaker 13: industry wise. It's sort of the bigger picture, right because
- 49:25Speaker 13: they did it the jazz like they co opted it
- 49:28Speaker 13: and used it for their own purposes.
- 49:31Speaker 10: But there wasn't messages and jazz that were going to
- 49:33Speaker 10: have an effect. I mean, black people see them right.
- 49:36Speaker 13: I mean, yeah, I mean we sort ourself out. But
- 49:38Speaker 13: I also feel like from a macro perspective, the civil
- 49:42Speaker 13: rights movement created a lot of opportunities and it shifted
- 49:45Speaker 13: the mentality that made many of us very passive.
- 49:52Speaker 1: Though. Yeah, I feel like I integrated my people into
- 49:55Speaker 1: a burning house. Into a burning house, right, we had.
- 49:57Speaker 1: It was more of a SENTI of independence, go deep,
- 50:00Speaker 1: It's okay, no argument, man.
- 50:07Speaker 13: My godfather gonna call me and be like, young man,
- 50:13Speaker 13: it's heavyest a lot, and I'm like, ah, you got
- 50:16Speaker 13: me a pinch right now.
- 50:17Speaker 10: I mean even, I mean, you know, there was a
- 50:19Speaker 10: term and hip hop artists talk about it when the
- 50:21Speaker 10: record labels say to them, this is what you have
- 50:25Speaker 10: to rap about, and this is what we're paying for
- 50:26Speaker 10: you to write.
- 50:27Speaker 1: Right.
- 50:27Speaker 10: And again, I say, in a lot of ways, we
- 50:30Speaker 10: are complicit in what we see. You know, the state
- 50:33Speaker 10: of hip hop and the younger generation. We allowed that happened.
- 50:37Speaker 10: And for the dollars, Tucker, I'm gonna get a T
- 50:41Speaker 10: shirt that says was right.
- 50:43Speaker 1: You know. I had a couple of questions. I want
- 50:45Speaker 1: people subscribe to the podcast, but when it comes to
- 50:47Speaker 1: TV and movies, do you have the same discretion with
- 50:49Speaker 1: the N word and the B word.
- 50:51Speaker 10: Yeah, you mean in terms of using it, in terms
- 50:54Speaker 10: of my use of it or the industry's use of
- 50:56Speaker 10: it both.
- 50:58Speaker 1: So I think I am I'm against the gratuitous use
- 51:03Speaker 1: of the words.
- 51:03Speaker 10: Like I understand all of the arguments and all of
- 51:07Speaker 10: the defending, but I think what's getting lost is I'm
- 51:11Speaker 10: referring to the gratuitous use of it. Sure, we can
- 51:15Speaker 10: talk all day about there are some circumstances where that
- 51:18Speaker 10: word is the only thing that really you know, So
- 51:22Speaker 10: I'm aware of all of that.
- 51:23Speaker 1: But my issue was, I said, it's the.
- 51:25Speaker 12: Gratuitous use of it, because I would imagine right that
- 51:29Speaker 12: if you get a tight script that takes place in
- 51:31Speaker 12: the nineteen sixties, well that script's don't have the N word, right,
- 51:35Speaker 12: So right, that's that's different. And that's what we talk
- 51:38Speaker 12: about a lot amongst the three of us, is that
- 51:41Speaker 12: it does have a place. We can't just erase that
- 51:44Speaker 12: of history, right, it has a place. You cannot do
- 51:47Speaker 12: certain things without the word coming up. It's just where
- 51:51Speaker 12: you place it in your own life, and that's where
- 51:53Speaker 12: you payeah.
- 51:54Speaker 1: But I can't go do an August Wilson play period
- 51:59Speaker 1: to say you know what I'm saying. So I get
- 52:02Speaker 1: all of that.
- 52:02Speaker 10: I think my issue is along with the I go
- 52:06Speaker 10: back to anti black messaging and our music, the gratuitous.
- 52:10Speaker 1: Use of the N word. It's just you know, it's
- 52:12Speaker 1: just for me. I'm just like, you know, enough already.
- 52:14Speaker 1: And again I said enough already.
- 52:16Speaker 10: But then I also go back to, you know, there's
- 52:18Speaker 10: so many incredible lyricists who have proven their pin game
- 52:23Speaker 10: is top notch, and I go, well, just like, elevate
- 52:27Speaker 10: this if all these corny and mothers are using in
- 52:30Speaker 10: all of their lyrics elevant like show them. And also
- 52:33Speaker 10: when we're in our forties and fifties still rapping the
- 52:37Speaker 10: same rapper in our twenties, It's like that's not even
- 52:40Speaker 10: you know, like like show me some growth, right, like
- 52:43Speaker 10: if you're not even giving me any integrity in your
- 52:46Speaker 10: art an evolution, evolution, Yeah, And I like I just
- 52:49Speaker 10: can't and it's not feeding my soul.
- 52:51Speaker 1: I can't do it. I guess you do.
- 52:53Speaker 4: Well.
- 52:53Speaker 5: The podcast Not All Hood is streaming everywhere and I
- 52:57Speaker 5: appreciate you guys for joining us.
- 52:59Speaker 8: Thank you, Malcolm Jamal Warner. Where you see Baraka and
- 53:03Speaker 8: Candae Kelly. Thank you guys so much.
- 53:05Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 53:05Speaker 8: It's the breakfast poke morning.
- 53:08Speaker 10: Your execution on the Donkey of the day is something
- 53:10Speaker 10: to go.
- 53:10Speaker 7: Hold for you to read.
- 53:13Speaker 2: They gave me Dunky of other day, and I deserve
- 53:14Speaker 2: that people need to know what you need to tell them.
- 53:17Speaker 1: I am you have the boy tell them it's time
- 53:21Speaker 1: for Don'tky of the day.
- 53:22Speaker 3: It's a read.
- 53:23Speaker 1: But you're so good at you're trying to charlamage what
- 53:26Speaker 1: he wants. Charlamagne, damn solomame. Who do you give the
- 53:31Speaker 1: dusky of today to name? Yes, Donkey today goes to
- 53:34Speaker 1: a woman named Michelle Young. She's forty six years old
- 53:36Speaker 1: and she's from Burlington, Iowa, Okay. She faces charges of
- 53:40Speaker 1: reckless use of fire, explosives, destructive devices, and possession of
- 53:44Speaker 1: drug for orophernilia. You know, earlier were talking about the
- 53:47Speaker 1: Collie Russell story and Calie Russell is on probation and
- 53:50Speaker 1: as part of her probation she has to go to
- 53:52Speaker 1: mental health counseling. And Jess, you said something I agree with.
- 53:55Speaker 1: Everything is in a mental health issue. Some people just
- 53:58Speaker 1: make poor choices. Yep. Very so I'm interested to hear
- 54:01Speaker 1: what you think about Michelle Young's situation. Did she make
- 54:04Speaker 1: a bad choice or is there something emotionally and mentally wrong.
- 54:07Speaker 1: Let's go to Casey RG ABC nine news for the report.
- 54:10Speaker 1: Please six.
- 54:10Speaker 14: A Burlington woman is facing charges after police say she
- 54:14Speaker 14: set fire to a porch. According to a des Moines
- 54:17Speaker 14: County arrest affidavit, it happened just after four thirty pm
- 54:20Speaker 14: yesterday on Vineyard Street. Police say when they arrived on scene,
- 54:24Speaker 14: forty six year old Michelle Young was standing on the porch.
- 54:27Speaker 14: She told them a friend lived in the home, but
- 54:29Speaker 14: the resident who saw the incident on her home security
- 54:32Speaker 14: camera said she didn't know this woman at all and
- 54:35Speaker 14: had never seen her before. Young is charged with reckless
- 54:38Speaker 14: use of fire and possession of drug paraphernalia.
- 54:42Speaker 1: What did that sound like? Mittal health, fishoes or just porchoise?
- 54:46Speaker 1: Let me give you to give you some information. Okay,
- 54:48Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some more information. Michelle Young set
- 54:50Speaker 1: her friend's porch on fire because her friend didn't answer. Now,
- 54:54Speaker 1: full disclosure. This is how I be feeling when people
- 54:57Speaker 1: I love doing answer to the phone. When I know
- 54:58Speaker 1: my wife is home and she answer the phone, I'll
- 55:00Speaker 1: be wanting to set things on fire. When I call
- 55:03Speaker 1: jes Hilarius and she don't answer, but then I see
- 55:05Speaker 1: her back to back posting videos and pictures on her story.
- 55:08Speaker 1: I'd be wanting to set things on fire, but I
- 55:10Speaker 1: don't because I'm mentally and emotionally stable. Oh and one
- 55:13Speaker 1: more fun fact. Michelle Young said this was her friend's house,
- 55:16Speaker 1: but as you heard in the news report, she didn't
- 55:19Speaker 1: know this woman and the woman didn't know her. Would
- 55:21Speaker 1: you like to know some more details? Michelle Young told
- 55:23Speaker 1: officers she believed the home belonged to a friend. She
- 55:27Speaker 1: also said that she saw a sign that said which
- 55:30Speaker 1: is welcome, and because she was a witch she identifies
- 55:34Speaker 1: as a witch, she lit some items on fire, set
- 55:37Speaker 1: the porch on fire. Now, I don't know too many
- 55:39Speaker 1: people who have a sign in their yard that says
- 55:41Speaker 1: which is welcome? Unless it's Halloween. Was just a sign
- 55:43Speaker 1: that's been up since Halloween? Was there even really a sign?
- 55:46Speaker 1: And even though the sign says which is welcome? Welcome
- 55:49Speaker 1: to do?
- 55:49Speaker 4: What?
- 55:50Speaker 1: Now? Did the sign say you're welcome to commit arson?
- 55:52Speaker 1: Was it a fire sign? Meaning she was in aries
- 55:54Speaker 1: Leo Sagittarius. All I'm simply wondering is Jess, do you
- 55:58Speaker 1: think this woman needs some type of mental health counseling
- 56:01Speaker 1: or does she need an exorcism? Before you answer, would
- 56:05Speaker 1: you like to see her picture? Would you like to
- 56:07Speaker 1: see her picture? Nick zoom in on this? Oh? Okay, okay,
- 56:13Speaker 1: oh wow?
- 56:16Speaker 2: Mentally ill and inorism, Yeah, because she's gonna need therapy
- 56:21Speaker 2: after to get the demon out of them.
- 56:23Speaker 1: Is there a difference between demonic possession and mental disorder? See,
- 56:26Speaker 1: some of y'all need a psychotherapist, but some of y'all
- 56:29Speaker 1: need an exorcist. Okay, And that's the problem. That's the
- 56:32Speaker 1: issue we don't discuss enough, and that's demonic possession. You know.
- 56:36Speaker 1: I encourage y'all to go to therapy all the time,
- 56:38Speaker 1: but some of y'all don't just need a therapist. Y'all
- 56:40Speaker 1: actually need an exorcist. Okay. We love to say that
- 56:44Speaker 1: ain't nothing but the devil, but y'all don't even know
- 56:46Speaker 1: what the devil looks like. Look at this mug shot.
- 56:48Speaker 1: Look down. This woman looks like one version of five
- 56:54Speaker 1: different characters from the Wizard of Us. How can one
- 56:57Speaker 1: person simultaneously look like the Cowardly Line, the Scarecrow, Dorothy,
- 57:02Speaker 1: the Tin man and the wicked Witch of the West. Look. See,
- 57:06Speaker 1: when you dance with the devil, the devil does not alternate.
- 57:09Speaker 1: The devil changes you. You're not gonna tell me this
- 57:12Speaker 1: woman has not been changed. Okay, this woman did not
- 57:15Speaker 1: always look like Gary Owens. If he transitioned into gayl Owens.
- 57:21Speaker 1: She to give a little Gary, a little a lot
- 57:25Speaker 1: Gary's sister. It's either Gary sister or Gary. Okay, right,
- 57:29Speaker 1: Gary gonna get that Netflix special one way of you
- 57:32Speaker 1: hear me, Please give Michelle Young, the sweet childs of
- 57:35Speaker 1: the Hamilton.
- 57:36Speaker 14: So you.
- 57:41Speaker 1: Oh, the.
- 57:49Speaker 3: Oh the day.
- 57:51Speaker 1: Ye damn. Look at this today, sir. She looks like
- 58:00Speaker 1: the joke if the joker wanted to speak to a manager. Yeah,
- 58:03Speaker 1: she's Oh look look at this. She looks like she
- 58:10Speaker 1: holds a barbecue every January sixth Insurrection. This is Gary system.
- 58:15Speaker 1: I don't care what nobody says. He's a Gary, and
- 58:17Speaker 1: Gary said, you know what, I'm going to transition into
- 58:19Speaker 1: Gael and then I'm gonna get my first Netflix special.
- 58:22Speaker 1: God the Breakfast.
- 58:25Speaker 5: Club Wing everybody in tej n V Jesse, Hilarry Charlamage,
- 58:31Speaker 5: the God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a
- 58:33Speaker 5: special guest in the building, doctor West Bellamy.
- 58:35Speaker 1: Welcome. What U bro? How you doing man? I'm good,
- 58:37Speaker 1: I'm good man. How you are we doing well? Good? Good? Man?
- 58:40Speaker 1: Appreciate you all having me up here, sir, with the man,
- 58:43Speaker 1: this man Charlamagne here that he's the man. But Lord,
- 58:46Speaker 1: if you're in politics, he is a hard friend to have.
- 58:49Speaker 1: Why is that? Why is he such a hard trying
- 58:51Speaker 1: to jump it onto I'm defending him non stop. That's
- 58:54Speaker 1: my man though, so you know I'm with him.
- 58:56Speaker 7: Man.
- 58:56Speaker 1: You know, one of the things I want to say
- 58:57Speaker 1: to you into the people as a whole, Like I
- 58:59Speaker 1: think I was just talking about this in the back.
- 59:01Speaker 1: I think people don't understand how much you read or
- 59:04Speaker 1: how politically astute you actually are, and also that you
- 59:06Speaker 1: speak to a different demographic than some quote unquote politicals
- 59:09Speaker 1: normally talk to because you are like a very strong
- 59:13Speaker 1: truth teller and speaking from a different demographic or speaking
- 59:16Speaker 1: to a different demographic, people are like, yo, what the hell?
- 59:19Speaker 1: But I want to make sure I give your flowers
- 59:21Speaker 1: Like yo, man, you I appreciate the working, what you
- 59:24Speaker 1: do for the community and speaking up and speaking for
- 59:27Speaker 1: a different perspective. But Lord, you had me at the
- 59:28Speaker 1: White House last night that Juneteenth. I felt like I
- 59:31Speaker 1: was twenty v one, like I was Drake. You know,
- 59:33Speaker 1: you should do doctor. You should tell all of them
- 59:34Speaker 1: people that love to be on the hill to come
- 59:36Speaker 1: with you in the hood. Now you actually, really, you
- 59:38Speaker 1: actually be out here touching the people and having conversations
- 59:40Speaker 1: with people, so you know what people are actually talking
- 59:43Speaker 1: about the same people that they claim to be speaking
- 59:45Speaker 1: for they don't speak too. It's real. I mean, I
- 59:48Speaker 1: don't think we can deny that in any capacity. I
- 59:50Speaker 1: mean the things in which we hear in our communities,
- 59:53Speaker 1: and again, I'm glad you all have us up here.
- 59:55Speaker 1: We're talking about one hundred black men, our sixteen city tour,
- 59:58Speaker 1: real men vote, where we're going to through all these
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: different cities, talking to black men about the importance of
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: voting and then being engaged. And literally we're hearing the
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: exact same things, not only that you all are saying
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: here on the radio, but things in which some people think,
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: oh that's just crazy, Like no, brothers and sisters for
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: that matter, are really believing these things. And we have
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: to do collectively a better job of educating our communities
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: in terms of just really what happens in voting on
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: the local, state, federal level. I saw Jasmine up here
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: the other day, and I really appreciate the way in
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: which she breaks down things, and we need more of that,
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: just real truth telling. And because we're not being as
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: honest as we should be in communicating and conveying our
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: message in a way to people who don't have doctorates
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: or they don't have law degrees, I think there's a
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: lot of misinformation that's going out and then people are
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: just more easy and acceptable or susceptible rather to the misinformation.
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: And I think right now the thing that frustrates so
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: many people is once again it feels like we're voting
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: out of fear. By the way, this is probably the
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: one time in my whole existence that we absolutely have
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: a reason to be truly scared about the end of democracy.
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: But they've been saying this for so long, it's like
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: now all they're offering once again is fear, right, right,
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: Like huh yeah, I mean, I think that's part of
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: the issue, that using fear and scared tactics as a
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: way to get people to be able to go and
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: do quote unquote what they believe to be the right thing.
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: After so long, you just become, you know, become numb
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: to it. But I do believe, honestly, and I'm being
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: very candid, that democracy, as you've often alluded to, is
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: under attack. And I think that not just democracy is
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: under attack, like our traditional or quote unquote regular way
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: of being could really be jeopardized if collectively all of
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: our communities, not just black folk, but all of our
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: communities don't go out and vote our best interests and
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: not vote misinformation, but again vote our best interests. And
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: my position is, like again, what we're doing with the
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: hundred black men and real men vote toward talking to
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: brothers about again, like why we have to be engaged
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: and more than anything else, yo, you can't afford to
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: just pretend is if things are just okay. And I
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: know that we don't always see the transitions in the
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: change from administration to administration to impact in the hood,
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: but that's also why we got to be engaged on
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: the local level and encourage brothers to run for office
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: for that matter.
- 1:02:21Speaker 5: What do you tell to somebody who does not necessarily
- 1:02:24Speaker 5: like Donald Trump, but he also does not like Joe Biden?
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 1:02:27Speaker 5: And that's what we're seeing a lot of right, they're
- 1:02:29Speaker 5: not happy with the things that Joe Biden does in
- 1:02:32Speaker 5: the last four years, and they don't like Trump.
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: So it's like, what do you tell those individuals when
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: in four Americans have an unfavorable view of both presidents
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: of both presidents. So me personally, I say, Yo, it's
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: not just about the people who are quote unquote and
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: the presidency. Like we have to talk about who's being
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: appointed to Supreme Court justice, who's being appointed to the
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: federal justices. Excuse me, I'm the appillate courts, who's being
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: able to have access to these state houses because parties
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: do play a major role. And then in addition to that,
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: when we talk about economics and resources being able to
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: be to flow through our communities, whether that be the
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: creation of black businesses and having the capital to be
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: able to start your black business, to be able to
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: maintain your black business, Like, all of those things are
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: mandated into a certain extent going to be supported based
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: off of who you elect in this presidential election. And Yo,
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: you can go and say you like whoever you don't like,
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: but again I always encourage people vote for your best interests.
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: And then in the congressional seats, which we have a
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: ton of different seats up this year. Send it side
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: on the House of Representative side. Congress is really who
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: pushes things through and if we need resources, if we
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: know we need resources, then there's no reason why again
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: we should be voting for people or persons who have
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: outwardly said they care very little about how we improve
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: as a people. When I look at the you know,
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: this is just me talking as one representative, as one individual. Now,
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: when I look at the Platinum Plan, the two page
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: Platinum Plan that that Donald Trump put forth a couple
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: of years ago, and I haven't seen thus far, because
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: I'm an independent, I haven't seen thus far Trump bring
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: forth any kind of plan or action plan for Black America,
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: whether that be on the economic side, whether that be
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: on the educational side, whether that be freedom and justice,
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: whether that be just criminal justice, reform, healthcare, women's rights,
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: so on and so forth. We haven't seen any plan.
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: So to me, it's very simple when we look at
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: who we should vote for. But I understand it whether
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: or not they will either the lead got pushed and
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: then came whether to lift every voice in the plan,
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: I'm not even yeah, I mean, yeah, but you ain't
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: got to say it like the day. You see what
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what that's the problem, right, that is
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: the plan. So it's just as it sounds just as
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: ridiculous as the Platinum plan to lift every voice and
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: sing every Lift voice. But this song is what I'm saying.
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about now, and then I'm
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: gonna get the calls after this, yoe. But here the
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: think I'm not that far off. No, like Lift, every
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: voice playing is the same difference. But I think, but
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: I think there is a fundamental difference. So the names
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: may be, you know, they the names of the bills
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: can be what they are, but the substance of the
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: two are very different. And and again for me, like
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: I'm not a quote unquote Biden apologist, but when I
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: look at them putting billions of dollars into student loan
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: debt relief, as an individual who just got his student loans, uh,
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: you got a lot rights down too. Yeah, two hundred
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: and eight thousand dollars. Wow, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: And I mean, even if you think about that there
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: in itself, I would have got three degrees, all three
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: of my degrees from HBCUs. Shout out to South Carolina State,
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: Mama Mater and Virginia State where I got my masters
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: of my doctorate and where'm the political science department chair now,
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: shout out the envy for coming to state last year,
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: to Virginia State last year. Yeah, come and talk to
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: the students. But like you know, again, for me to
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: get three degrees, it cost me two hundred and eight
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: thousan dollars. Like that's ridiculous there in itself. And the
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: fact that you have so many persons on the right
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: actively saying, Yo, there should be no student loan relief,
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: it's crazy when we know the biggest benefactors of student
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: loan relief are black volk So again, vote your interests. Now,
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: there will be people who say, like, well, nah, you
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: chose to take on that student loan debt. And that's true,
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: but education shouldn't cost that much no matter what. And again,
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: when we're talking about specifically, when I'm talking to brothers
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: around the country about yo, vote your interests, you're voting
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: for not just yourself, but for your children, your grandchildren,
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: your little cousins, your mentees, whomever. I wouldn't invite you
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: to go to Hampton, but I would, I wouldn't. No, Nah,
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: it's love, it's love. But you know again, man, we
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: have to vote our interests and that's important.
- 1:06:47Speaker 5: We got more with doctor Wes Bellamy. When we come back,
- 1:06:49Speaker 5: don't move. It's to Breakfast Club.
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: Good morning morning. Everybody is dj n V, Jesse Lyris
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: Charalamaine the God.
- 1:06:55Speaker 5: We are to Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with
- 1:06:56Speaker 5: doctor Wes Bellamy. Yes, sir, let's talk about the documentary.
- 1:06:59Speaker 5: Why is it documentary so important to make and for
- 1:07:01Speaker 5: people to see?
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: Yeah, man, yeah, time to yell more than a statue
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: really telling the story of I think Charlottesville in some
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: regards have become a hashtag. People are like, yo, that's
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: the place where those crazy white people came with tiki torches.
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: But there's a lot more to it. I mean, we
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: had some very strong people within our community, black women,
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: specifically a shout out to my little sister, Zaiana Bryant.
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: She was fourteen years old writing a petition. You know
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: what I'm saying, saying, Yo, we got to get these
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: statues removed. People like Tanisha Hudson, you know, mayor and Nikayawaker.
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: Our first black female mayor. We had white people like
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: Kristin Sekos. You know, there was a lot of people
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: within our community who rallied together for us to be
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: able to do something in my personal opinion, that was monumental.
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: And then subsequently we saw across the country people using
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: literally our resolutions, like we had an elected officials group
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: chat and people like, yo, we'll send me that resolution,
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: and them getting their statues removed. And I think like
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: the power of quote unquote hate and even what we're
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: seeing right now with the far right movements and people
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: just being blatantly racist, like them coming to Charlottesville and
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: saying like, like with signs that Wes Bellamy, We're gonna
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: hang your black mass or like people come in and
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: saying like we're gonna destroy and kill anybody who fights
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: back against us as you try to move these statues,
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: and in the community saying like, nah, we're not having that.
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: We're gonna stand up, We're gonna speak up. It's a
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: powerful story, and you know, rest in peace to the
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: young sister the Hire who actually was killed on August twelfth.
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: I met her mom before met a mom, so so
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like when people, when people
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: lose their life fighting for this, and then again you
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: see the power and the beauty of people coming together
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: to say, yo, we're gonna fight back. We firmly believe
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: that right now, more than any time, it's a story
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: to be told. And if you want to vote for
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: the dude who said it's very fine, people on both
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: sides after people try to like kill me, kill my family,
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: kill you know, people actually kill someone, and I think
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: you need to think twice. Do you feel like the
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: events of Charlottesville is spoken about enough? I think it
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: depends on who you ask. I think again, for a
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: long time, we were more so like a hashtag, and
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: we really want to show again at our community as
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: much more than that. When you talk about spoken of enough,
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: For me, it doesn't really matter how people quote unquote
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: speak of it or speak of us. I firmly believe
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: that it's just important to do the work. But I
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: do think it's important for us to tell our story,
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: and there's a multitude of stories that could be told.
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: This documentary is really just telling it from my lens.
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: But there there are several people, as I alluded to,
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: you know, Zi and Nakaya and Tunisha, and you know
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: Charles Lewis and Will Jones, who's in the dock. You know,
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: he started a run club. We started this prolific run club.
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: Like it's a multitude of people and it's all intertwined,
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: and we're telling our own story, you know, and and
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: for us, you know, excuse me for me. Rather, I
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: think that you can have black folk Hill in that
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: particular way, you can have white folk Hill in that
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: particular way. And we don't always. I have to quote
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: unquote strive for unity. Like my thing is, let's strive
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: for respect, because if I respect you, then I won't
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: do any harm towards you. And if I won't do
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: any harm towards you, then I can value you and
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: we can move forward accordingly. And I think that's kind
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: of what we get across in this documentary. You're gonna
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: see brothers in the hood playing like in my basketball league,
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: the TONSA League. You're gonna see white people and black
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: people running together. You gonna see some really contentious moments
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: and of people, you know, getting it in and arguing
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: and fighting. But more than anything, we come out on top.
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: What is some some truths that black people need to
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: know before casting their vote in November because I you know,
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: and we had a good assistant Congresswoman and Crockett up here,
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: and I was telling her about one of my mentees
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: in Georgia who was watching her speak, and you know,
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: Congresswoman Crockett said, hey, y'all should go google what this
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: administration is done. That's why y'all don't know what they've done,
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: because it's so much. And I'm like, that's not good messaging, you.
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: I gotta go google line it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: mean it's real like and let me be clear again, y'all,
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a surrogate of the administration.
- 1:11:08Speaker 7: You know.
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: Shout out to my man Trey Baker and and Antoine
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: c Right and you know, and even Congressman Clyodburn, they know,
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: like I send a message quick like yo, this is
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: some boy what y'all y'all want some. But I do
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: again believe in given credit what credit is due, like
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: the fact that the Biden administration has has meticulously and
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: strategically provided billions of dollars for not only student loan relief,
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: but provided uh, you know, over like two hundred million
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: dollars for black businesses to be skilled. I think that
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: there in itself is huge when we look at housing
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: and affordable housing, the work that you know, former Secretary
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: Marsha Fudge was doing in terms of the voucher system,
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: like I currently serve as the chair of our Housing
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: Authority Board, and like the HOOD, they've been doing some
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: good work in terms of being able to get resources
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: back in the hood and empower our people and not
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: only rib in public housing, but get out of public
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: housing home ownership.
- 1:12:04Speaker 4: Like.
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: They have tons of programs in that regard. I would say,
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: you know, the list does go on and on, but
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: it's not up to us quote unquote to tell those stories.
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: So when you ask me, like, what are some real truths, yo,
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: the administration has to do a better job, point Plank. Simple.
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: You look at the Republican side, yo, whether it may
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: not be a lot of substance, they gonna ride for
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: what they're doing and talk about the work in which
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: they believe in which they're doing or what they're fighting against.
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: It's usually not what they're doing, but it's about what
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: they're fighting against. I don't necessarily always see that on
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: the Democratic side, or I'll say that it doesn't receive
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: the same amount of attention because it's the way it's delivered,
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: sucks it's asked. But how come when you say that,
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: nobody get manage you? But when I say that World
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: War three on because one bru you Charlemagne and you
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: known for saying wow. But also I think that even
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: in again, in your political astuteness, you're holding individuals accountable
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: in a way in which they feel maybe shouldn't be
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: done right now because it's so close to the election.
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: I think that's really what the gripe is with individuals
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: with you, And it's some individuals because it's not a
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: multitude of people, because like yo, it's a lot of
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: people who feel the exact same way in what you
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: feel like you're speaking for a demographic of people who
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: at least mean when I'm in a hood every people
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: saying the same thing every day.
- 1:13:21Speaker 8: Will tell them more. How they can see the documentary.
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I'm super excited. We're having a
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: special screening in Charlottesville, Virginia on Tuesday, June twenty fifth,
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: hosted by my dear sister, Simone Sanders, former mayor, and
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: the Kyle Walker, Will Jones, a few others who are
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: going to be on a talk pack afterwards, and then
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: after that, you know, we're looking to make sure people
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: can pick it up. Hopefully we'll have a distributor by
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: then and people will be able to see it any
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: and everywhere. But I think it's a pretty good body
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: of work and I'm looking forward to again people being
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: able to see it learn more about our city. And
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: then also from one hundred black men's side, we have
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: twelve more cities to go to with being talking to
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: black men about why it's important for us to vote.
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: We got a few things coming up and I'm looking
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: forward to y'all supporting and again, you know, man Charlemagne Envyes,
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: we really appreciate y'all supporting us. And I'm gonna say
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: one more thing about you real quick, like people don't
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: really get to know you, but I appreciate you always
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: being willing to share your platform and help our people out.
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: That means a lot in Envy. I don't think you
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: get the credit that you quite deserve in terms of
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: what you give back to our HBCU, specifically like your
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: HBCU a summer tour or a tour that you do
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: know what I'm saying in the in the spring. It
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: is really dope. And to see you come to my
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: school and those kids were talking about it forever, man,
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: that that really meant a lot.
- 1:14:37Speaker 5: There you have it, doctor, It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
- 1:14:44Speaker 5: the Breakfast Club, Good morning everybody. It's DJ Envy Charlamagne
- 1:14:50Speaker 5: to God.
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. Charlam You got a positive note? Yes,
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: the positive note is simply this man. I said it
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: once during Donkey to Day. I want to repeat it.
- 1:14:58Speaker 1: When you choose an action, you choose the consequences of
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: that action. When you desire a consequence, you add dan, well,
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: better take the action that were created. Okay, we all
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: make choices, but in the end, our choices make us.
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: We are free to choose our paths, but we can't
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: choose the consequences that come with them. Breakfast Club, bitches,
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: you don't finish or y'all done.